The Paths Ahead – The Boot

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I consider this a very unlikely scenario, but not impossible. What is the way back from, say, Venezuela?  Do they even remember how to be free?
A subtitle of this would be “Teach your children well.” If we we go down for the long count, we can only hope that our grand kids or great grand kids will fight where we didn’t and bring back America.

Something like this was the deep background of the DST world, before the scientific glam. Now, take heart, since I first wrote that under Clinton.  And we’re not — knocks on head — there yet.

Keep going.  This is a very scary possibility but about as unlikely as the Pie in the Sky one. Take no counsel of your fears.

Someone said the future is a boot stepping on a human face forever.  They omitted saying that the past is that too. Heinlein pointed out that misery and poverty is the natural state of the human race and the “good luck” respites come when the individual is given freedom. But they usually don’t last.

It started with Winnie the Flu, and looking around and wondering why everyone else had gone mad.  Shockingly even a lot of people who were smart and whom you’d have considered rational and freedom lovers went all in on the side of the lockdown, and swore it was all justified, even though the rules made no sense and most of them had nothing to do with disease.

Not only were the numbers visible to anyone and you didn’t need a mathematical genius to see the virus was nowhere as deadly as advertised — not in a first world country — there was the obvious insanity that the New York City subway continued running through this, New Yorker’s ability to travel was unimpaired, despite being a hot spot, but New Yorkers screamed at everyone wanting to re-open the economy and save us from famine. Or the fact that most large cities had policemen enforcing draconian locked-at-home measures, while the homeless roamed more freely than ever, congregating in empty sidewalks and parking lots and — how strange — still alive and unharmed.

BUT the few people who screamed about this were dismissed as “denialists.”  Apparently denialists of the end of the world.

And the government band played on.

And the two weeks turned into a month and a half to three months lockdown, destroying businesses, livelihoods, lives, and disrupting many supply chains including those for food. The fact people were confined in the house, watching TV 24/7 and that TV was non stop doom porn didn’t help.  It never occurred to anyone that if TV could dramatize everyone under 80 who died, it was because there were so few of them.  Instead people panicked.

Bizarre abilities were attributed to the virus, including of flying 17 feet and hanging suspended in the air for hours.  Like the original research that prompted the order on six feet distance, this should have the additional “in laboratory circumstances. And if humans breathed aerosol.”  While there’s water vapor in your breath, you don’t BREATH water particles large enough to have the virus in them. And short of a sneeze or something similar you don’t breath 17 feet out. But people believed this. And didn’t realize “virus” is a viral load so small it couldn’t infect anyone.

There were protests, but a lot of states clamped down on them, and as things reopened the protests died down.

And the virus returned in the fall, and the hype and panic started again. In a transparent bid to recrash the fragile rebuilding to win the elections and get power, the media servants of the left party started the “We’re all going to die” drum.  And people obeyed.

There was a “temporary” lockdown in November and in the all vote by mail the left party won a stunning victory that might or might not have more votes than logical or plausible.

But people were too scared, some of the virus, some of the already precarious conditions. Too busy trying to find food.

The unlocking in December was trusted-people first.  And in the aftermath — because the virus was so bad, you see — strict tracking of every citizen was instituted. Strict social credit too.

Want to keep a blog, or talk on your phone more than peer-to-peer one person at a time? Your social credit has to be perfect.

No one knows how many people died the winter of 20/21 or how many by famine and how many by bullet.  Many a hunter in the woods, accidentally uncovers a mass grave, but if he knows what’s good for him, he doesn’t talk, and when the police who track the phone he must carry later ask what he saw, if he knows what’s good for him, he saw nothing.  With a few years of staying silent, he might be trusted again.

And he has to be trusted. Everyone does. Otherwise buying necessities is impossible. They’re so scarce anyway.  And having a job is a privilege. Receiving your dole if you don’t work is a privilege too.

There are occasional rebellions, attacks on important people. Or at least that’s the rumor. But it’s never reported.

If you manage to kill someone important on camera, you just sealed a death warrant for everyone you know. And the viewers, if they’re smart, will forget.

Periodically, if the rulers sense something particularly unsettled, they might lock down an entire region. It’s always a “virus.”

After 2028 they stopped bothering with the elections.  We don’t know why power changes sometimes, only that the new face shows up on TV and nothing changes.

But we’re living. More or less.  Most people live.  We’re told people abroad aren’t that lucky.  of course, no one not cleared has gone abroad in a long time.

Maybe some day someone will rebel in the name of freedom again, but food is so scarce, and even talking of how things used to be will get your ration card pulled.

So, all we can do is dream.

 

199 thoughts on “The Paths Ahead – The Boot

  1. And the two weeks turned into a month and a half to three months lockdown, destroying businesses, livelihoods, lives, and disrupting many supply chains including those for food.

    As has been sung, “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose.”

    As has been said, “Beware the man with nothing to lose.”

    1. Anyone else remember Up With People?

      Freedom isn’t free! Freedom isn’t free!
      You’ve got to pay a price,
      You’ve got to sacrifice
      For your liberty.

      Freedom is a word often heard today,
      But if you want to keep it there’s a price to pay.
      Each generation’s got to win it anew,
      ‘Cause it’s not something handed down to you.

      1. Nothing against the sentiment but I hated Up with People. I still sing that bloody song when I’m driving and get cut-off. My wife would give me the stink eye for swearing in front of the children so one day I started singing up with people.

        I’m sure that others have better memories but that and that miserable I’d like to teach the world to sing were a blight on my childhood. I still remember every word.

    2. If this went on with carefully selected medication shortages, there would be a hell of a lot of people with nothing to lose and the desire to settle the score.

      One other point: the boots would likely belong to the National Guard, and as far as I can tell, they have no particular love for the Blue state Powers That Be. Lose a few governors to “friendly fire” and the rest might decide to take an overseas trip.

      1. There are thousands… maybe tens of thousands – of potential Walt Kowalskis out there, never released from their oaths, with no future left to lose. Start shorting the pharmaceutical supply chain, and pick a multiplier for their number.

        Some of them are combat vets. Ones, like Cohen the Barbarian, good enough to grow old.

        And they’ll be *angry*.

  2. Actually I’d think a convergence with Col. Schlichter’s books and this would result, with the left and right edges going recurring-“virus”-lockdown-we’re-in-this-“together”-inform-on-your-neighbors-at-this-web-site, and much of the middle responding with “Oh, Hell No.”

    I just can’t see Texas, as one example, going along with the boot.

    1. Yeah, if freakin’ NYC’ers were responding (literally, I’ve been led to believe) to the inform-on-your-neighbors hotline with single-digit salutes and dick pics, ain’t no way Texas is gonna go along with it.

      1. Not to mention California kids digging out the skate park the government buried.

        Those two stories, not because of the actions but because of where they occurred, buoyed my belief in the American commitment to liberty in ways no political party or movement ever have.

      2. Indeed – I laughed inordinately at how New Yorkers responded – I can only imagine what Texans would do with the same “nark on your neighbors” hotline. Probably melt down the receiving server…

        1. Redirecting a phone sex line might be doable, depending on how it was set up. Or better yet, let it run for a few weeks… then cull all the identifying info and publish it anonumously. Not that the locals wouldn’t know which ones are Karens in their neighborhoods. But other people might not. And if the Karens are too weak willed to confront their neighbors in person, well…

          1. I ran across one from Saint Louis. They set up a snitch email site, with lots of responses from Karens and others. However a radio guy did the state equivalent of a FOIA and TPTB released a copy to the guy.

            Who promptly posted the entire set of emails. With full ID of the complaining people.

            No surprise, some vindictive, some mothers outing their sons, some [soon to be ex-]fiancees outing their betrothed. Apparently, many of the businesses cited were previously designated as “essential”.

            Apparently, the fine print said the complaint form was a public record, so the complainers don’t have any recourse… [VBEG]

    2. Pretty much.

      I suspect some parts of the left will look at the right in this case and say, “We can shoot each other later; those assholes first.”

      1. Not for nothin, but why do you think New Yorkers are compliant? It must be TV. Those people don’t come from here, by and large they come from there. I’m so sick of being blamed for what suburban mean girls do. Take them back and we’ll call it quits. Whadya say? 😜

          1. Giuliani was NYC’s mayor. its more that the local republicans are incompetent than any preference for democrats. oh and gerrymandering. Have a look some day at a map of Nadler’s district. He puts the Gerry In gerrymander.

            I’d still like the rest of the country to take back your fruits and nuts. We end up with an awful lot of them.

            1. Don’t put too much blame the rest of these United States. 37% of NYC residents were born in another country, the highest number in over a hundred years.

    3. Austin is a liberal stronghold, and the weevils work incessantly to undermine the rest of the state.

      1. I have stopped from responding to the ann Frank memes a few times.

        The posters uniformly would have done their patriotic duty and turned in that evil source of social contagion that was a Jew (per the lawful government of the region).

  3. Given how quiet some of my MeWe friends have become about certain subjects of late, I’m thinking this scenario is much less likely than the Cry Havoc one.

    1. We were talking with the neighbors (slightly further away than normal for us rurals; personal space can be pretty large around here) and discovered that they were not as liberal as we feared they might be. OTOH, quite conservative and fed up as hell with the open-ended lockdown.

      One of the big Asante hospitals in Medford is now talking about how badly the lockdown is hurting. It’s a mixed area; kind of a purple county, so TPTB at the capitol might be a bit more interested than in us flyover red counties.

  4. Less chance of this than of my (54, average health) dying of SARS 2.0.

    Quarter of a billion guns, trillion plus rounds (minimum!), Hell No would think the totalitarians much faster than the herd.

    IMHO.

    1. Quarter of a billion guns, trillion plus rounds (minimum!), Hell No would think the totalitarians much faster than the herd.

      It is more impressive if you give the numbers for the entire country instead of per-neighborhood.

      1. Does anyone know what reinforcement a crawl space foundation floor needs to hold several hundred 50-cal ammo boxes worth of ammunition?

        Asking for a friend.

        1. 50 cal ammo boxes are around 35lb. Residential floor code is usually around 40lb/sq ft with 16″ center 2x12s (usually some fudge factor their if the engineer that designed it knows his business). Depending on how tight you pack ’em, you might want some support. Underneath, remember to lay a brick down so the wood isn’t standing on dirt. Cut a 4×4 to fit, remember to adjust for the height of your brick, space ’em out every 4′ or so and you can load *lots* of ammo without breaking your floor.

          Or so I’ve been told.

          Best case, just pour a slab and install one of those container sheds on it. Load capacity is pretty much good until you’re trying to load multiple pallet stacks. You’re not trying to move the space shuttle, but still, it’s a lot of weight at that point.

          Again, I hear such things. Y’know.

        2. Going fishing? I thought all that got lost in the boating accident? Or do you live over a lake? 🙂 🙂

        3. It’s really going to depend on just how full those 50 Cal cans are. Some time ago, I handloaded several cans worth of .45 ACP, and a rough guess said they weighed 75 pounds each. (At least, they got a “Jesus, this is heavy!” when I had to move them.) I’d have to see if any survived the boat swamping before I could confirm numbers.

          I was just reviewing rafter and joist tables, and residential construction assumes 40 pounds/sq foot for a load. I’d use something with a slab, or a construct that can go directly to a footing.

          1. I stored several large boxes of books in my attic (books are HEAVY) and made sure to place them over the walls.

          2. Well, is that live load or dead load? Also, at least where I am in the PNW, a typical crawl’s floor is dirt with a 6mil or so vapour barrier. if you have a decent crawl access, and without having a huge mess of HVAC ducting in the way, you should be fine to dump steel boxes full of useful things straight on the ground. If you don’t have a vapour barrier, either load said boxes of necessary supplies into the black contractor garbage bags, or get some 5mil + plastic sheeting from the BORG and lay that down, then just fold over for a little extra sumpin’ sumpin’.

        4. One of the guys on theakforum.com took “buy it cheap and stack it deep” back when Combloc 54r was cheap. He filled a closet with spam cans. Later, he had a bunch of pictures from down in the crawlspace where he had to jack up collapsed floor joists.

          I had to replace the floor in the Project House all the way down to the dirt. I kept his example in mind when rebuilding…

  5. Over on Samizdata, Tim Worstall is quoted as saying that the future is a Birkenstock stamping on a human face, forever.

  6. I honestly think this is the least likely of the four by a wide margin.

    The two successful large nations able to pull this off, the USSR and PRC, both tapped into long cultural traditions and, in the case of the USSR, feeding steroids to an existing secret police tradition. The Tsarist Okhrana had funded the Bolsheviks as the lesser danger among revolutionary groups and while the Okhrana was named enemies of the people and hunted, I have no doubt that the Cheka contained Okhrana cadres at least in administration and probably on the streets even if not in leadership. In the PRC a long tradition of Imperial power and authority were at hand.

    Also, neither nation was urban or industrial or communication connected as the US is. Arguably neither was at the level of the 13 colonies in 1776.

    The United States has no such tradition which means both the institutional cowering such a group relies on and the needed infrastructure to oppress a continental nation.

    In fact, the US has much more a tradition of middle fingers which can translate into waiting in hallways to make the thugs[1] question their choice to enforce edicts. At best a handful of blue areas will knuckle under, although given the prominent “FUCK YOU” sent both in California over the skate park and NYC over snitching indicate otherwise.

    While most of the US isn’t NYC, “snitches get stitches” is a tradition everyone in the US at least knows even if they don’t personally embrace it. Everyone probably has neighbors who do and will get more such neighbors if the government tries this.

    The reality is something like this relies on bullies to provide both the official and unofficial networks of enforcement. Bullies last only as long as they aren’t punched back. I don’t think enough will avoid a punch back long enough to institute the system. If Moldylocks is any example, when people punch back, they will lose interest.

    [1] Don’t call them jack booted thugs. As Orwell pointed out, that is a specific image spread by communists to attach the actions of the Cheka et al with the Nazis and thus excuse the communists.

    1. Birkenstocked thugs?

      Oh, they THINK they’re tough Nazi-punchers. I think that no matter where this goes, they are in for an ugly surprise. Even if we go full Venezuela, I think a great many of the Atifidiots are destined to be stomped into paste.

      1. True believers are typically the first up against the wall after the revolution succeeds. The same would apply to Antifa. If “their” side won, then the idealogues would be dealt with, while the thugs would be given work elsewhere in the system.

    2. China and Russia, not to speak of Germany, were broken long before the dictators took over. Lenin took a streetcar for God’s sake.

      There’s a lot of ruin in a nation and it will take more than this. If what we have is so fragile that this would break it completely, then we never really had it in the first place.

      I mean, they’re so mediocre and they’ve never been challenged. Can you imagine any republican being so stupid as Nancy was? I mean the republicans are stupid but that was utter folly. She’s so used to the prestige press that she has no antibodies, that’s why Trump does so well. It’s not that he’s so good, it’s that they’re so bad.

      It’s hard given all the noise, but Twitter isn’t the world.

      Good news though, Andy Cuomo more or less shot any chance he had when he told “non essential” people to either shut up or get an essential job. I’m sure it played well with the Acela crowd but I can’t see it playing well in any of the Midwest states he’d have to take.

      Mayor Che DeBlassio issued blanket non voluntary DNR’s today. The law suits will be interesting given the demographics of who uses EMS ambulances for, say, heart attacks.

      What a bunch of idiots.

      1. NYC’s SecHealth (or whatever they call that position) walked that one back REEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL fast. Apparently it was first “clarified” to “No DNR if it’s confirmed or suspected COVID-19 and then scrapped altogether.

        FDNY apparently ignored the order and continued to use their standard resuscitation protocols.

        1. I’m glad.

          I know them not being allowed to take folks to the hospital if they couldn’t resuscitate on site was taking a massive toll on them, emotionally.

        2. She’s an idiot. She’s the one who told people to go down to Chinese New Year and hug people because Resist.

          NYPD routinely turns their back on DiBlasio and I can’t see FDNY or EMS listening to him or that idiot.either.

          1. I think she’s a broken clock in this case: apparently the original order came down from Benito De Blasiolini himself, and her reaction was along the lines of “OMG are you completely insane?!”

            1. My wife is genuinely afraid of DeBlasio. There’s something important missing in him.

              He reminds me of Che Guevara a dreamer who failed at everything who found himself with absolute power over a group of people that he proceeded to murder.

              The maddening thing is that had Anthony Weiner managed to keep his trousers on, we wouldn’t have DiBlasio, A world where The Weiner is a better choice than we actually got is frightening but there you go. Once he dropped out we were left with a choice between DiBlasio and Christine Quinn. DiBlasio was the lesser of those evils. I can’t even remember if the republicans bothered to run at all.

              1. Guevara was evil and smart, definitely a sociopath, and probably a serial killer: there appears to be a string of disappearances and unsolved murders along his famous motorcycle trip, the timing of all of which correspond neatly with Guevara’s presence in the area in which the disappearance/murder occurred. And the murderer in each case appeared to use the same MO….

                DeBlasio is definitely a dreamer who found himself with near-unlimited power, but…. I’d call him stupid and evil, but I’m fairly calling him stupid would be a horrible insult to stupid people. Seriously, the fact that he’s constantly pissing off and alienating the people and organizations that he needs to carry out his will is not exactly the mark of an intelligent tyrant.

                1. DeBlasio’s also extremely corrupt, as has quickly become apparent to anyone paying even the least bit of attention to what’s happening in New York.

              2. And FWIW, I think I was mistaken, it looks like this was a state-level order from Cuomo, not DiBlasio.

                Now HE scares me. Because unlike Mayor Dumbass, he actually has multiple functioning brain cells to rub together and the ability to use them wisely.

                1. Che was stupid and ineffectual. He only succeeded because he was the only person around that Fidel, who was a PhD, could talk BS theory to. he was murderous though as so many of these people are when given the chance.

                  DiBlasio is a completely inconsequential man.

                  Cuomo would surprise me since this is likely an illegal order and he’s not stupid. Looks like FDNY treated it that way. He’s corrupt but hasn’t struck me as a psychopath. Why now? Something’s missing here. The optics would be terrible, especially since it’s largely tanned people who use EMS, the other tribes have their own or use private. Unless he wanted to keep the count down. It makes no sense.

                  FWIW, my mother died in a NYC EMS ambulance. The guys did all they could for her, but they told me she was really gone before they got there. They do a good job and have to deal with a lot of crap.

                2. What worries me is not that he may have said the quiet part out loud earlier accidentally, but that it was calculated and highly doubt will see any flashback

              3. DeBlasio has publicly stated, after he was elected as Mayor, that he thought the biggest problem in his view was that people have private property rights; and that to fully achieve an “equitable society” private property rights need to be eliminated. Seriously. He is an and out full fledged commie.

                1. he’s a red diaper baby who never moved on. Much like Barry the unready without the ability to read a teleprompter convincingly

        3. That hits hard with me. My mom had bad dementia, was refusing to eat (take at least half an hour getting her to eat half a sandwich) and had an infection that big doses of antibiotics could barely keep in check…and Dad didn’t want a voluntary DNR. Telling me people were being denied the choice takes me to a bad place.

            1. Ok. it’s political and it’s a f’Up. The state health commissioner is Howard Zucker, MD JD he’s a lifelong health bureaucrat who spent a great deal of time at WHO. he’s on TV every damn day looking solemn. Part-of NYS emergency plan was death panels since they wouldn’t spend the money to do anything else. The death panels in NY acted with the efficiency that NYS is so well known for. Word is that this decision has been floating around for some time but no-one ever sent it out until the need for it is gone. Since ICU admissions in NY are dropping and never hit upstate at all. It made no sense but their being really bad at killing makes sense since they’re so bad at everything else.

              Zucker also told nursing homes to take back WuFlu positive patients. I suspect his term in office has little time left to run. he’s a smarmy piece of work so good riddance to bad rubbish.

              FDNY told them to pound sand. I think I’ve written here before that the professional heads of the emergency services in NYC have often been corrupt but seldom incompetent. That is the case here.

              Good to see the wheels coming off the Cuomo bus. He’s playing chicken with Trump but this was subordinates over complying but being bad at it or at least that’s what the word in FDNY is Telling anyone not in an essential job to shut up and starve and BTW if you get sick we’ll let you die won’t play well in Peoria.

              1. Someone needs to remind him that there are still a lot of signposts and lammposts in NYC, and that Central Park is chock full o’ trees. And that there are plenty of things that could be used as impromptu rope.

                1. there are plenty of things that could be used as impromptu rope.

                  I thought the claim that politicians and bureaucrats lack any guts was metaphorical?

              2. Zucker also told nursing homes to take back WuFlu positive patients.

                Oh, holy crud.

                That, right there, should get him charged with malicious malpractice, if not criminally charged for the deaths that resulted.

                1. Should. He’ll get a ticket tape parade and bonus when they send the states bailout money.

                  This is honestly what is making my blood boil. The closest thing to “competence” in this I’ve seen worldwide was Taiwan. Most everyone else underreacted then overreacted. Mismanagement was common and completely bipartisan among both state and feds. Fanciful models became the tool of choice for charlatans. The government agencies that were tasked with critical jobs failed. Trump’s trying to thread between the scylla and chybardis of pandemic blame and economic ruin. And these jackals have no interest in actually identifying failures like this but only in crucifying him.

                2. It’s a mess. He’s also the guy who told NYers not to self quarantine if they left NYC. He did this on March 25th, which was the peak of the virus in NYC.

                  The nursing home thing makes my blood boil, first for the death and second that the state wouldn’t provide PPE, third that they made them take sick patients back, and last that they’re waving the bloody shirt about it.

                  I hate these people.

        4. Until dept of health confirms protocols are protocols. And the excuses in them large enough to drive the bus thru.

      2. My husband said Mr. Trump is going to allow the migrant farm workers Visa class in. So that they can walk off the farm / processing plant / etc. and disappear into sanctuary cities.

        So, yeah. Maybe #LearnToMilk #LearnATrade #LearnPickAsparagus

        It’ll probably kill me at this point, but most of my family put in time in the fields, doing janitorial work, etc. We can do it again.

        IFF the [censored] unholy alliance of Left and Right in the service of cheap labour and cheaper goods don’t conspire to kill it.

      3. In The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Shirer blamed Martin Luther for the failure of a bottom-up democracy. I’d ask somebody who actually knows European history before setting aside the salt box, though.

        1. Na ja, the problem is that Luther does not explain Spain, France, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and a lot of other places. I’d put the problem more as the Roman law ideas overwhelming the Germanic ones, and having a far greater number of groups and cultural sub-groups that could be played off of each other. The British Isles, for all the internal differences, were more coherent in terms of law and faith, and the Germanic ideas about weregeld and the rights of the freeborn property owner became part of the body of law. The northern Imperial Free Cities (the Hansa cities) had something similar, but they lost political and economic clout after the 1340s.

          NOTE: This is just based on my broad research, personal observations, and theories, not from research into the primary source material first hand. I’ve got two books on this in my TBR stack, one of them in German, but they are a ways down.

          1. It’s been a long time since I’ve read R&F, but if memory serves, Shirer claimed that in the course of a peasant(?) revolt in Germany, Luther sided with the nobility, thus destroying populism. I figured his assertion needed a pound of salt and further research. I have the salt, but not the time nor inclination to do the latter.

            1. The 1526-27 Peasant’s Rebellion. That was an unholy mess, and there were nobles on both (all) sides. It sort of was Protestant v. Catholic, peasants wanting to keep their traditional rights to land and resource use vs. nobles who wanted to “modernize” and restrict use of the commons, and a smattering of pro and anti-Holy Roman Emperor stuff just to make it messier. I can see where Shirer is coming from, since Luther definitely prefered law-and-order and people obeying authority, especially the authority of himself and the other “anointed.” (To steal from Thomas Sowell.)

              1. Luther liked people to do what he said. He was frothing at the mouth about the need to KILL THEM ALL. Then, he blamed God.

                I, Martin Luther, have during the rebellion slain all the peasants, for it was I who ordered them to be struck dead. All their blood is upon my head. But I put it all on our Lord God: for he commanded me to speak thus.

    3. New York is where the expression never rat on your friends originated.

      Boondock Saints is set in Boston but this, if nothing else, translates when Wilhem Defoe says, “no one saw anything, this is an Irish neighborhood, you’re lucky they called you.”

      We used to get criticized by all the “civic minded” people about it, now it’s our greatest virtue.

      A lot of people here talk of Irish Democracy, you might ask yourself where those Irish people ended up and what effect they had on the people they lived among.

      1. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse.

        And those who think they can rise up and become our “betters”, well, yeah, we can kick them back to all those “decent” countries where they will fit right in.

        1. Major Asley-Pitt: “In our experience, Americans are uncouth misfits who should be run out of their own barbaric country!”

          Matthew Quigley: “Well, Major, we already run the misfits outta our country. We sent ’em back to England.”

          Freakin’ love Quigley Down Under

        2. Those that have been shown to never pay a price for their failures. Folks like Clinton for 911 (pick one), Obama’s handling of ISIS, Bush’s failure to rein in fanny/freddy, all the folks involved in the election spying, irs witch, and dozens of lower department heads that got off Scot free while the people see lives destroyed. Outside of a few rightish sites, the general response to this has all been “thank you sir, may I have another”

      2. And that attitude is stated in Goodfellas ” You remembered the two most important things. You kept your mouth shut and you didn’t rat on your friends”.
        There are many in NY and NJ who do not share this attitude however and love playing informant for the politicos

        1. I hate speaking favorably of them since they’re murderous psychopaths not romantic rogues. Scorsese knew them too and I think he got it in the movie.

          we all learned the lesson though. The bosses are the bosses and you don’t tell the Bosses. It started with the nuns and went on from there.

        2. Just wait til it gets you into the supply store in the early group where there might be paper goods available

    4. Yes, but keep in mind how many people have voluntarily given up the personal information needed for such tracking, whether knowingly or unknowingly, simply by having Google, Facebook or Amazon accounts. Those companies track EVERYTHING and anyone who doesn’t think that info isn’t going to deep-staters and to Democratic Party operatives hasn’t been paying attention.

      The problem with the idea that so many people have guns it will prevent this scenario is that it presumes enough of a push back at the same time to overwhelm the police/military forces that the government will use to suppress dissent. While some military, especially enlisted ranks, may push back against this, the impact of the 8 year Obama officer purge and replacement with SJWs as officers and NCOs as compared to simply warriors cannot be understated. While this might lead to more scenario 3 (yesterday’s) rather than this one, there will be large swaths of Oceania and those swaths will push to dominate the remainder.

      A lot of this is simply that the left is generally far more organized and willing to cross lines that non-leftists are not willing to cross. It may simply be too late by the time that the non-leftists take broad enough action to stop the boot on the neck from happening.

      1. 8 year Obama officer purge and replacement with SJWs as officers and NCOs as compared to simply warriors cannot be understated

        It started with Clinton, slowed – slightly – with Bush and went into overdrive under Obama. I cannot speak to the other services, but the Navy is a dumpster fire. All most of the command ranks know how to do is drive a desk. And that’s without the SJW convergence.

        I suspect most of what conservatives think they know about the US Military and their willingness to run cattle-cars and shoot protesters is literally fiction.

        1. Let not your heart be troubled.

          At least not to the cattle car level.

          I could see my brother, and guys like him, being so freaking stupid that they’d actually do the “prison for super heroes” type thing from Marvel: Civil War for as many as 20 people.

          Get into a hundred or so, and NFW.

          And that’s as someone whose suspension of disbelief was strongly tested by none of the enlisted guys taking a pipe wrench from a door and taking out the a-hole in charge of that prison.

          1. You don’t need a wrench – you just need a bunch of specialists to really screw with things…

            1. It’s not actually a wrench, it’s a section of pipe that’s about a foot long. Chosen because they go missing pretty much constantly, and you need at least one at each door, and you are NOT going to get prints off of those things, and the guys who keep the things functioning tend to have them stashed in the oddest of places, exactly so they CAN yank them out and cave in a skull if needed.

              (Steam and darkness, and going off of my geeks a lot started out a bit odd in the first place. There’s a reason that the “have a SEAL team take over the ship” setups are usually restricted to official security responding.)

      2. This. The above is what worries me, particularly the fact that our “tech sector” is happy to do the bidding of the ChiComs, who after all control access to the largest consumer demographic of our “borderless” “globe.” Just saying.

      3. Yes, but keep in mind how many people have voluntarily given up the personal information needed for such tracking

        My employer is rolling out a new multi-factor login system, and the preferred method is to load an app onto your cell phone. I’m quite pleased to see so many colleagues shooting that option down (I’m not thrilled with using my landline either, but working remote limits my options).

        1. My employer is rolling out a new multi-factor login system, and the preferred method is to load an app onto your cell phone.


          Correct answer is “Not my cell phone. If you want to issue me one for this, registered to the company, fine. Not one I pay for.”

          Even working from home. Any device I used would be used only for company, unless it was a VPN, so that you really are only using keyboard and screen, not anything on personal hard drive.

          I get the double authentication requirement. Use the bank’s processes for this, I do not use their app. They send a code via message. At worst they have my cell phone #. But no permissions for anything else.

          I loved it when IT upped security at work. It always worked soooo well, every single time. NOT!!!!

          FWIW I know people who don’t have cell phones, or don’t have ones that Apps can be loaded onto.

          1. If any part of their “security” depends on a cellular phone, which is rooted all the way from the bottom to the top of the service stack, they’re just playing security theater.

            What chaps me is those incompetents get *paid* for it…

            1. What chaps me is those incompetents get *paid* for it…

              I know.

              Internally the worst IT I had to ran into was the one who took down the network for servicing. They’d warned production & shipping, and the other usual users who they had full control over … HR, Accounting, management, etc. But neglected to let R&D engineering know … Granted all our code was on individual laptops, but it was locked up with the common database code sharing system that we officially checked out, daily.

              Then there was the time when they locked up everyone’s system so that no one could install libraries or programs without IT personnel there to unlock your system, verify what was being installed. Do you know it is impossible to compile code and link into a .lib, .com, or .exe, when your system is locked up to prevent installing libraries & programs? Do you know (per IT) that developers should be compiling only “once in awhile”? FWIW the IT department learned differently very quickly; we kind of ran them ragged. We made our point.

              Then there was dealing with client IT. OMG. This was often the conversation:

              Client: I need this changed/fixed, ASAP. Here is the approval.
              programmer: Okay.
              programmer: Sends email. “Please install this …” where this is a ticket number accessed through an install process that came with the system … Note, part of the process is to update the installation system that the ticket has been installed.
              Client: Nothing changed. What’s up?
              programmer: Just a minute. Checks Ticket System. Uh, the change hasn’t been installed, yet.
              Client: Why isn’t it installed? I needed this ASAP!!!!
              programmer: Uh … (Hey we as the provider can’t) … don’t know. Your IT has to install it …

              The really fun ones were the clients who paid outside companies for IT … responsive? Not so much.

              The clients who had it easy? The ones where their IT granted the company I worked for VPN access so OUR IT could install patch updates … which (shhhhh) all the programmers had access to. Then the conversation was.

              Client: Need change/fix. ASAP. Approved.
              programmer: okay.
              programmer: Send email/calls client. Done. Installed. Let me know how it goes, either way.
              client: It’s great.

                1. I came in one morning and my Unix workstation came up with an MSDOS error and hung. They’d come in during the night and tried to install “antivirus” software on it, then tried to run some kind of disk repair tool when it didn’t take, and after hosing the partition table they’d tried something else… they also stole 3/4 of the RAM out of it, as “not authorized.” So it wouldn’t have booted anyway…

                  They’d also blown away the somewhat involved autoexec.bat and config.sys files on my DOS workstation, the ones that set up all the environment variables used by the compilers, drivers for the network, etc. But it had Norton antivirus on it, which was way more important!

                  The idiot they’d assigned as my supervisor couldn’t see what the problem was, and told me to “get over it.”

                  The copy of SCO for that machine came in multiple boxes of floppy disks and took most of a day to install and configure… only then could the tape drive be accessed to restore the data. The tape wasn’t exactly a speed demon either; it was one of those where every tape change involved 20 minutes of gumming the tape to decide if it was acceptable. But first the machine had to be bootable, and the fast RAM they’d stolen out of it couldn’t be located, so they had to order some by mail. Funny, their asset tracking was good enough to decide that machine – which had never been in their system – had “too much RAM”, but then their asset-tracked spoils just disappeared…

                  I’d loved that job when I started, but every re-org was another giant step into Dilbertland. They re-organized so often they bought a high-end graphics workstation, a $3K copy of AutoCAD, a similarly expensive printer, and sent one of the managers to CAD classes just so he could do new office plans and cubicle charts. That system became some kind of status symbol, appropriated from the “team leader” who managed to get the PO through and relocated a few times until it wound up in the office of the Director of Information Technology, who would dump demo files from AutoCAD to the plotter to impress visitors.

                  It was about then I realized that, as much as I liked computers, I wasn’t cut out to be a corporate sarariman…

                  1. It was about then I realized that, as much as I liked computers, I wasn’t cut out to be a corporate sarariman

                    I understand.

                    My last job was with a very, very, small firm. Good news/bad news. When IT screwed up, it shutdown programming & customer support hard. Six salaried programmers absent from the office and home doing nothing, for a week or more, is not a pretty site. Note, it happened twice in 12 years. Well more times if you count when Comcast or power went out … but that wasn’t our IT’s fault. Other than that we only had to deal with client’s IT. That was so much not fun. But by then my skin was so thick … whatever …

                    Big corporate company #1. Well I was IT, also the programmer. Yes, hardware went down, about every 18 to 24 months, stupid hard drives. Also seemed to happen while I was on vacation – dial-a-tree-if-you-want-help-I’m-out-of-cell-tower-range … Needless to say. I left explicit detailed instructions. First time it was a PIA because, well, it was the first time. Subsequent times (in their words) it was a cake walk. Until the last time, that became I-told-you-we-were-headed-for-this to division. Hardware failure, that couldn’t be replaced or upgraded, & we had to get ALL new hardware & software, which opened a whole set of compatibility can of worms. OTOH it fast tracked the system changes that needed to be made. Can we say “good-bye” COBOL, finally? Kind of … Then corporate sold the division assets & shutdown the division. Someone ended up with the mess I was balancing, as we got the system re-writen, but not me. Same corporate office that told me that “Foresters don’t need computers.” Never mind that the Foresters were using handheld computers in the field, and uploading data using shared desktop to the system. That Foresters were why I even had my job … Oh, good news with the shutdown? I was OUT of IT (home stuff doesn’t count).

                    Corporate Job #2: The can’t install lib/com/exe “fun”. Happened twice. First time IT was just down the hall. R&D different developers took turns “having to recompile”. We’d each wait until IT were back in their office, then call. It took 1/2 the day, after our manager had talked to them, then the CEO, before he came back and said “Do what you need to do”. Round two. It actually took a full day. Our smaller company had been bought by a larger one. But they didn’t keep our IT. Their IT was clear across town. Never mind that when the “order” was issued, our IT, not quite gone yet, warned “No. Don’t do this. Exempt R&D. No. Just don’t.” Their IT did it anyway. R&D did the same as before … only this time we’d give the individual sent almost enough time to get back to their offices … Their offices were almost an hour round trip from ours … Needless to say IT left R&D alone after that; well until the company went bankrupt, but that is a different issue.

        1. ^^This^^

          And that’s beyond things like how my main google account is used by… either nine or ten people, I’m not sure.
          It’s got Princess’ fake facebook profile (for games), all of the kids use it to synchronize the school web links, it’s recovery for my parents’ email, and it’s on…. oh, gads, at least a dozen different “mobile devices”.

          Most of my texting is on third party platforms so that I can use an actual keyboard, but it also distributes that vector of information collection. Voice chat, too.

          I have at least a half-dozen active email accounts, not counting the ones associated with different organizations, and I think I’ve complained about how inaccurate Facebook is for figuring out anything about me, much less my husband.

          Then there’s how various gaming platforms aren’t sure if I’m my husband or not.

          Amazon has the best chance of accurate information… other than the stuff I get local, or at walmart, or at Menard’s, or that isn’t for me at all, or….

          The neighborhood gossip would have a much better chance of getting accurate information, and drawing accurate conclusions. Says the gal who has been shocked and amused by such gossip as she’s ever heard about herself. 😀

          1. Add to that that places like FB are STUPID. most data is “robot collected.” Until I got a crazy person — apparently at the fast end of Alzheimers, was ALWAYS very liberal, now liberal and gets things mixed up and goes on crazy vendetas — who took offense at my revealing Eric Ciaramella’s name, like the entire country didn’t know it, and started denouncing me, I have never been to FB jail. After I blocked the idiot, I stopped going to FB jail.
            ALSO when I looked up my political leanings — and Fox, you KNOW what I post — I’m listed as left leaning moderate by FB. Why? Because I have a ton of friends in the sf community, all to the left of Lenin. So, of course….

          2. We keep getting calls wanting to speak to my dead son who is supposed to be in need of a reverse mortgage. Or wanting to know if he wants to sell this house that they think he owns. Supposedly he was in the military. All false data, none of which was intentionally done.

            I suspect there is a lot of garbage info. Just like the way the Steal report thought someone had been somewhere, but it was someone else with the same name. That is how we know where they got the fake info, since the only way you would have made that mistake is if you were illegally data harvesting from the NSA. So we need to feed them false data. If we survive another 60 years, it will mess with the release of the 2020 census info, because so many will have messed with the government.

            I never post under my real name, just as Presbypoet. It would be easy for someone who wanted to find me to do it, but there isn’t an easy breadcrumb trail for an AI. It would take a real human looking at my trail, not AI, which means ain’t intellegent.

            1. Even humans screw it up a lot– I get emails for a guy who has my maiden name, and the first letter of our first names is the same. That’s it.

              Half of them, HE had to enter!

              He was also a technician in the Navy, though, so it gets extra fun.

              1. My dad’s letterhead had “[firstname] [lastname], Geologist” at the top. He used to get form letters addressed to “Dear Mr. Geologist”.

                1. That reminds me– does anybody else do the “Mr (firstname)” or “Miss/Mrs (firstname)” when their kids are talking to adults?

                  I started doing it because I want the kids to have that mental gap that a title gives them, but people really hate being called by title and last name.
                  Plus, it’s adorable. ^.^

                  1. Always.

                    I still call those of my parents friends who are still living by their title and last name. They tell me not to, but I just can’t.

            2. Incidentally, it sounds like his data got harvested for a fake identity. If you’ve got his social on hand, you might want to poke around for stuff like that.

              1. I did a divorce for a woman who found out that her husband was cheating on her when the bill for an engagement ring came to the house, and on investigation, found that the SS# used on the credit app was her grade school sons’.

      4. Honestly, I’m not seeing it in the military. Too many of the mid- to senior level leaders (Captain to Colonel and SFC to CSM/SGM) survived intact and remember their oaths. They have not sworn to support and defend the Republican party or the President. They’ve sworn to defend the Constitution and they are getting pretty pissed off. It’s even more stark in the Combat Arms branches. Suffice to say, if the left is counting on their fifth column in the military to see them through, they’re in for a rude surprise.

        1. I see them trying to just put out the fire, if it goes out of control, though, and if it’s too late.
          I also don’t think it will happen. It’s possible, but barely.
          There’s also the veterans, who also swore oaths.

      5. The thing is, the troops – those that might have to implement the SJW playbook, are generally good people, who might arrange that the jerks giving those orders have an “accident”. And – amazingly – witnesses will be impossible to find.

        For the good of the service.

        1. I recall a piece some years ago on “what if someone in DC started a coup” — don’t remember if it was supposedly the President overthrowing Congress or the other way around — and called up the nearest combat unit. Their initial reaction was described as every sergeant reporting that somehow every single vehicle in their unit was down for maintenance at the same time, and the monkeywrenching and slow-walking went on from there.

      6. Those companies track EVERYTHING and anyone who doesn’t think that info isn’t going to deep-staters and to Democratic Party operatives hasn’t been paying attention.

        That’s not the infrastructure I was talking about. It is troubling and I have no doubt it will be used, but that’s not the same kind of thing. It is possible it could be re-purposed, but I’m talking about the physical and cultural infrastructure from cells and camps to a habit of not wanting to be the last to applaud or the first to stop.

        replacement with SJWs as officers and NCOs as compared to simply warriors cannot be understated

        A good officer cadre is not sufficient to win a war. History provides multiple examples. NCOs are more worrisome, but are non-warrior SJW type NCOs going to be effective in the field, especially in stopping push back from enlisted ranks? Armies without ranks are less effective than armies with few officers or NCOs.

        willing to cross lines that non-leftists are not willing to cross

        More easily winning, yes, but that has its upside and down. As you point out, the upside is you might be able to overwhelm the other side before they get their act together. The downside is, if you fail, you’ll find your side had a lot of fair weather fighters, which is I why I point out Moldylocks who was all about punching “Nazis” until one punched back. Then it was, “why did you hit a girl”. Mr. One Punch and down in Portland is another example.

        The other disadvantage, which is related, is one the slow fuse people have had it, it is much more likely they will see you defeated, not just you have lost but that you have been defeated.

        If there is a thread that runs from Atlanta to Nagasaki, it is that the American way of war is embodied by the idea of unconditional surrender and devastation until you do. Look at the complaints about what we didn’t do in ‘Nam and to a lesser degree Korea and you see the same thing.

        Then ask yourself, is the American way of war more live in the Woke crowd of would be tyrants or the millions of gun owners. While I don’t want a civil war because my likely outcome, probably closest to Sarah’s #2, is a Franco (who was not a fascist and in fact was despised by the Spanish fascists who thought he used them).

        I don’t want a Franco, but if we roll the dice that’s what I expect much more than Oceana.

  7. The Chinese Virus causing America to be come China– but an American type China, so less incompetent.

    Nicely creepy.

    …I was kinda scared tor read it, for fear it’d get me going, but I’m not afraid this will happen.

    Other than the November shutdown thing, THAT I can totally see them TRYING to do.

    1. You’ll start seeing the death count come back (assuming it leaves) probably late September. Early enough to get ballots mailed.

    2. They’ll TRY. I honestly think the response will be more “America has followed its last stupid order.” If Trump doesn’t fold on that one, they’ll catch cold at it. The DOJ is already clearing its throat at the states.

  8. This is by far the most likely scenario, mainly because it’s not far from what was already the case before the Wuhan Virus. Democrats already have absolute control of the culture, but because they know nothing but orgasmic joy 24/7, it’s starting to get boring. So they’re spicing up their joyful sex lives by killing us, who have never known anything but sorrow, misery, and absolute loneliness.

        1. I’m kinda offended by this, just because people shorten my screen name to “Ken” when they meet me in real life.

          I promise no kitsune magic was created in the above delusion.

    1. Disagree. If the Dems had absolute control, this website would not exist, Rush et. el. would never have become a household name, Trump would not have been elected and nobody would be as p*ssed with him as they are now.

      If they know nothing but orgasmic joy, well… y’all recall the whole run up to 2016. What happened election night? And every night thereafter, up to and including tonight? Heck, the schadenfrued *still* ain’t got old for some people.

      Starting to get boring, I agree with. Because we’ve seen this sort of envelope pushing socialist-in-a-democrat-mask nonsense ever since the long march got into professorships and lower teaching positions in the late-middle bit of the last century. Its why some of us can recognize it no matter how prettily they dress it up, its still the same stinking bull faeces it has always been.

      For the last, I particularly disagree. It is because they *threaten* my pursuit of happiness, freedom, and wealth that they offend me so. We are not pathetic, sorrowful people who’ve *only* known misery and loneliness. We are not defined by our suffering, and that suffering is only temporary and occasional. It is because we love our country and its freedoms that we want to preserve that for future generations.

      1. Here is the danger to that first part. If you want someone to rebel, take away all sense of control. If you want them to listen, just let them think they have something to fiddle with that they think makes it possible. Blogs and am radio are two examples of how that could be done.

        And I wont say orgasmic joy continuously but 2016 for them was like 9-11. They thought it was only gonna progress from Obama. So they went and started their own war on “terrorism” and kung flu just another theater of it.

      2. Remember, if you can declaim aloud that you live in a fascist dictatorship, but you’re not remotely worried that you’ll end up kneeling in a blood-soaked cellar with a pistol at your neck, then you’re not in a fascist dictatorship.

        This goes for both right declaimers and left declaimers.

        1. Unless a) the despot likes the branding of fascist and dictatorship b) it is very clear that people murdered by the regime are murdered in a different location using another method.

    2. Well, yes, it is pretty obvious that Democrats and leftists are often desperately unhappy and empty, which makes them hate everyone and project that everyone else feels even worse. Also Karens.

      1. I saw statistics on this somewhere. I think 40% or so of people who declare themselves very left wing report they’ve had psychological counseling. The rest are liars.

        1. “The rest are liars.”?

          That seems unduly harsh. They may merely be in denial or even merely untreated. Just because you have a need for counseling does not mean you’ve gotten it.

  9. I don’t think the future of humanity is “a boot stepping on the human face forever,” if for no other reason than I trust that the true benevolent dictator is coming. (Well, coming back.) Sure, He’ll shepherd the world with a rod of iron, but He is the only one I trust to do the job.

        1. We have some that came with the house. I’m not sure whether to go ahead and buy new LED-compatible dimmers to install when they all burn out, or hold off on the grounds that I’d probably lose the dimmers somehow in the interim. (I realize dimmers are not precisely essential, but I really like them. Now if I can just find pretty replacement bulbs for this one with the gorgeous golden ones… and optimally a matching light kit to install in the other room but I think the chances are low and falling.)

  10. I can see this happening in some areas – Joisey, NY, and the People’s Ecologic Republic of Commiefornicionstan, for instance – but it ain’t gonna fly in the South (outside of FL, but that’s basically Southern NY now) or Midwest. At least not outside the urban areas. And even that’s iffy: Houston PD has already said that they will not be enforcing the must-wear-a-mask-when-outside-your-home order that some judge is expected to hand down later today:

    Americans, despite the Left’s ever-increasing attempts to stamp it out – still have an instinctual response of “Sit down and rotate while beholding my erect middle digits!” response to overbearing authority. As has been said before, the response to Che Guevazio’s informant line and the California skaters turning their sanded-in skate park into a dirt bike course are both indicative of this. And this is just passive resistance. If we are pushed to far, rest assured, there will be blood. And I very much doubt that the boots-on-the-ground law enforcement types (again excepting major urban areas and some state-level organizations) are willing to act as the jackboots’ enforcers.

    It will be ugly, but enough Americans will be unwilling to let our country go quietly into the night that if this does happen, it almost certainly won’t be nationwide.

      1. That’s a relief….ish. Mom & Dad are in western FL, and in a “pretty conservative area'” (though we’re from the Philly area originally, so they’re standards for what constitutes “pretty conservative” are skewed somewhat. I just hope they’re far enough North (doubtful; they’re below Tampa) that if the Boog hits, they’ll be all right because I’m 1000 miles away (give or take) and won’t be able to get them out.

        Little Brother, OTOH, is in Boston. I love him, but…. he’s been corrupted by a decade in academia and 6 years in Liberal La La Land to the point where we’re all pretty certain he’s a lost cause.

        1. I refer to it as the Halls of Macedamia for a reason. I stopped trying to get back in eight years ago, so I’m one of those “independent historians” who is forever suspect. (I do now have a full set of PhD regalia if I ever need to try and “pass,” though.)

    1. Houston PD has already said that they will not be enforcing the must-wear-a-mask

      I’ve been amused at the sheriffs stepping forward across the country & pouring cold water on some of the nuttier proposals. Around here, at the very first disaster meetings the county sheriff pointed out that he didn’t have the manpower to enforce whatever plans public health was dreaming up.

      1. Ayup – not just Houston. Enforcing those orders always seems simple from a ncely appointed office, but somewhat different at street level.

        Police Have Started Revolting Against Draconian Coronavirus Edicts From Local Tyrants
        Police chiefs from Texas to Washington are standing up against draconian orders from local leaders demanding strict adherence to extreme social distancing measures to curb the spread of the novel Wuhan coronavirus.

        The Houston Police Officers’ Union declared Wednesday that its members would refrain from enforcing local County Judge Lina Hidalgo’s ruling deeming it mandatory for any individual over the age of 10 to wear a mask in public.

        [SNIP]

        In Washington, Snohomish County Sheriff Adam Fortney announced Tuesday that his officers would also abstain from enforcement of lockdown orders, joining Franklin County Sheriff J.D. Raymond who said he would not stop churches and business from opening with reasonable distancing measures in place.

        [SNIP]

        Further east in Michigan, four sheriffs in the northwest part of the mitten also announced last week that they would refuse to enforce Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s lockdown orders which have been the most extreme in the country.

        By the stroke of a pen, Whitmer has deemed it illegal for Michiganders to travel “between residences” or buy seeds while lottery tickets remain permitted to purchase.

        Whitmer, the sheriffs said in a joint statement, “has created a vague framework of emergency laws that only confuse Michigan citizens.”

        “As a result, we will not have strict enforcement of these orders,” the sheriffs wrote. …

        1. Snohomish County, for non-WA people, is just north of King County (i.e. Seattle). So this isn’t someone the bien pensants can trash as an Eastern Washington benighted science-denying redneck (and probably racist, too).

          Someone on another blog commented that he was an up-from-the-ranks guy, who somehow replaced the pinko incumbent at the last election. Would that we could do the same here in King.

  11. Some stories in the news, including neutered links, some emphasis added:

    Senate Intelligence Committee Report Is Useless Garbage
    By Andrew C. McCarthy
    The headline is an attention-grabber, particularly the subhead. The New York Times breathlessly reports that a Republican-led Senate panel has issued a report that “undercuts claims by President Trump and his allies that Obama-era officials sought to undermine his candidacy by investigating Russia’s 2016 election meddling.”

    Naturally, you’re thinking: “That’s it. All Trump’s diatribes about a ‘hoax’ have been the usual claptrap. Even the GOP admits that the Obama administration had good reasons to investigate whether Trump’s campaign was colluding with Russia.”

    Except . . . that’s not what the Times story actually says. Carefully parsed, it’s not even what the headline says.

    In truth, the story is a nothing-burger. We learn that one of the most useless committees on Capitol Hill, the Senate Intelligence Committee, has issued a 158-page report — festooned with the usual “there are things we can’t tell you” redactions — as a capper to its three-year investigation into a question no one is asking: Did the intelligence community competently conclude that Russia interfered in the 2016 campaign?

    No one is asking that question because, for the vast majority of people closely following the collusion caper, that would be like asking whether the Chiefs won the Super Bowl. …
    nationalreview [DOT] com/2020/04/more-media-misdirection-on-trump-russia/

    Pelosi: Democrats will demand vote-by-mail measures as part of next economic relief package
    by Dominick Mastrangelo
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated she already knows which Democratic agenda item she would like to attach to the next coronavirus relief bill in Congress.

    Citing a Senate Intelligence Committee report confirming Russia used misinformation to interfere in the 2016 election, Pelosi said it is imperative Democrats demand more people be allowed to vote by mail in the 2020 presidential election.

    “No matter what the president says, it cannot be denied,” Pelosi said Wednesday on MSNBC. “But it takes us to the next step. They have also told us 24/7 the Russians are still at work trying to undermine our election. That’s why we have to have an important chunk of money in this next bill that will enable us to protect the integrity of our elections, as well as enable the American people to vote by mail, especially at this time of a health danger in going to the polls.”
    washingtonexaminer [DOT] com/news/pelosi-democrats-will-demand-vote-by-mail-measures-as-part-of-next-economic-relief-package

    McConnell Signals Opposition to Expansive New Coronavirus Relief Bill: ‘We’ve Allocated A Stunning Amount of Money’
    By Zachary Evans
    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) on Tuesday signaled his opposition to passing another coronavirus economic relief bill before Congress returns from recess.

    “You’ve seen the talk from both sides about acting, but my goal from the beginning of this, given the extraordinary numbers that we’re racking up to the national debt, is that we need to be as cautious as we can be,” McConnell said in an interview with Politico. “We need to see how things are working, see what needs to be corrected, and I do think that the next time we pass a coronavirus rescue bill we need to have everyone here and everyone engaged.”

    McConnell’s comments came after senators passed by unanimous consent a $484 billion relief package providing additional funds for small business loans, hospitals, and other programs. That bill follows the massive $2.2 trillion relief package passed earlier in April to keep various sectors of the economy afloat.

    “My view is: We just added another $500 billion to the national debt. Let’s see how things are working, McConnell continued. “We need to weigh our obligations vs. [states and cities], since they have taxing authorities as well, and how to divide up the responsibility. So we’re not going to move on another bill related to this subject until we all get back here.”
    nationalreview [DOT] com/news/mcconnell-signals-opposition-to-expansive-phase-four-coronavirus-bill-weve-allocated-a-stunning-amount-of-money/

    1. Well … crap. There ought have been /Bs at the end of the headlines for the first and third of those articles. Obviously there’s a malfunction in my keyboard.

      Senate Intelligence Committee Report Is Useless Garbage
      By Andrew C. McCarthy
      The headline is an attention-grabber, particularly the subhead. The New York Times breathlessly reports that a Republican-led Senate panel has issued a report that “undercuts claims by President Trump and his allies that Obama-era officials sought to undermine his candidacy by investigating Russia’s 2016 election meddling.”

      Naturally, you’re thinking: “That’s it. All Trump’s diatribes about a ‘hoax’ have been the usual claptrap. Even the GOP admits that the Obama administration had good reasons to investigate whether Trump’s campaign was colluding with Russia.”

      Except . . . that’s not what the Times story actually says. Carefully parsed, it’s not even what the headline says.

      In truth, the story is a nothing-burger. We learn that one of the most useless committees on Capitol Hill, the Senate Intelligence Committee, has issued a 158-page report — festooned with the usual “there are things we can’t tell you” redactions — as a capper to its three-year investigation into a question no one is asking: Did the intelligence community competently conclude that Russia interfered in the 2016 campaign?

      No one is asking that question because, for the vast majority of people closely following the collusion caper, that would be like asking whether the Chiefs won the Super Bowl. …
      nationalreview [DOT] com/2020/04/more-media-misdirection-on-trump-russia/

      Pelosi: Democrats will demand vote-by-mail measures as part of next economic relief package
      by Dominick Mastrangelo
      House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated she already knows which Democratic agenda item she would like to attach to the next coronavirus relief bill in Congress.

      Citing a Senate Intelligence Committee report confirming Russia used misinformation to interfere in the 2016 election, Pelosi said it is imperative Democrats demand more people be allowed to vote by mail in the 2020 presidential election.

      “No matter what the president says, it cannot be denied,” Pelosi said Wednesday on MSNBC. “But it takes us to the next step. They have also told us 24/7 the Russians are still at work trying to undermine our election. That’s why we have to have an important chunk of money in this next bill that will enable us to protect the integrity of our elections, as well as enable the American people to vote by mail, especially at this time of a health danger in going to the polls.”
      washingtonexaminer [DOT] com/news/pelosi-democrats-will-demand-vote-by-mail-measures-as-part-of-next-economic-relief-package

      McConnell Signals Opposition to Expansive New Coronavirus Relief Bill: ‘We’ve Allocated A Stunning Amount of Money’
      By Zachary Evans
      Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) on Tuesday signaled his opposition to passing another coronavirus economic relief bill before Congress returns from recess.

      “You’ve seen the talk from both sides about acting, but my goal from the beginning of this, given the extraordinary numbers that we’re racking up to the national debt, is that we need to be as cautious as we can be,” McConnell said in an interview with Politico. “We need to see how things are working, see what needs to be corrected, and I do think that the next time we pass a coronavirus rescue bill we need to have everyone here and everyone engaged.”

      McConnell’s comments came after senators passed by unanimous consent a $484 billion relief package providing additional funds for small business loans, hospitals, and other programs. That bill follows the massive $2.2 trillion relief package passed earlier in April to keep various sectors of the economy afloat.

      “My view is: We just added another $500 billion to the national debt. Let’s see how things are working, McConnell continued. “We need to weigh our obligations vs. [states and cities], since they have taxing authorities as well, and how to divide up the responsibility. So we’re not going to move on another bill related to this subject until we all get back here.”
      nationalreview [DOT] com/news/mcconnell-signals-opposition-to-expansive-phase-four-coronavirus-bill-weve-allocated-a-stunning-amount-of-money/

  12. Maybe I am getting cynical in my dotage but I cannot help but think that if America fails it will not be coming back.

    America was a unique occurrence in history. It was born of the Enlightenment and grew up in the First Industrial Revolution. Many have tried to repeat the success story but none, so far, have succeeded. I suspect that is because the would be copycats do not understand the concept of the individual as Americans do. In a very real sense, America incorporated one of the great leaps in cultural evolution. The individual both has value and must be respected. In such a world individuals are **not** interchangeable plug-in units.

    That has made the difference but once gone it will be a long climb out of the night.

    1. But not an impossible climb. Ideas last, and Christianity (and Judaism) includes the idea that all people have value as individuals in the eyes of G-d. USAians will hang on, no matter where they happen to be born.

      1. Heinleins “bad luck” will eventually cycle again. The Greeks begat the Romans begat renaissance begat england begat usa. All of them declined and fell.

      2. That there once was an America means it will, like Camelot forever remain in collective memory, awaiting rebirth. And it will fall again, because governments, being made from common clay, do.

        Ideas, stories, aye, and songs as well, live on forever. The egg, once hatched, will hatch anew, and perhaps next time its produce shall last longer.

  13. “Paths Ahead – The Boot” remind me of “Star’s Are Ours” by Andre Norton (1954)

    Doesn’t get into the why or the how, just the “don’t bow to authority, you and yours don’t get to live.” Focuses is on escaping which involves fighting, but not on fighting back to overthrow.

  14. Our next federal election here in Canada is three years distant. Hopefully our Boy King will have allowed us to emerge from our homes before then. Hopefully.

    1. If Little Justin keeps screwing the pooch the way he has been, the CPC might make a deal with the Bloc for a No Confidence motion. Particularly if there’s a Gridlock Ottawa protest on Victoria Day or something like that. Maybe 8,000 tractors on Sparks Street would jog something loose in Soggy Scheer’s tiny cranium.

  15. I have started asking people:

    “HOW LONG are they going to keep this up? Until the last corona virus dies of old age?”

    Unfortunately, sometimes the answer is, “God, I hope so!”

    WTAF,O?

    That was extreme, over-the-top SARCASM you twits!!
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    “There are only two things that are infinite: the universe, and stupidity — and I’m not sure about the universe.”

    1. I never talk to people in Real Life anymore. Their opinions just anger me. Total interaction now is “visa or mastercard” and I just grunt and show the card.

      Social Distancing is like a dream come true. I can wear my industrial paint respirator and walk around, nobody even looks at me anymore much less talks to me. Its Heavenly. ~:D

  16. This one just about sank my day. There’s such a thing as being too good at creating a vivid sense of place. We also just got word this evening that ALL in person library programs are cancelled through August. Makes me wonder what the higher ups know that I do not.I

    Thank goodness for the commentariat.

    1. They know lawyers. I suspect that the lawyers are circling. One out here is already running ads about if the insurance company isn’t coming through and you have bills to pay while your loved one is in the hospital/recovering from whatever. Wuhan fever is not named, but one wonders.

      1. They don’t want to name Wu Flu, that would limit their customer base. They want to file suits against the insurance companies on behalf of everyone who is even remotely sick from anything banking on the fact that most companies find it cheaper to settle than to litigate.

        1. Not always. When I had jury duty last year, I went through voir dire for a civil case that was against an insurance company. I was among a number of people who got dismissed for our reservations about extremely large settlements.

        2. You’ll have plenty of suits next year from folks with cancers and similar that were untreated to death because we are trying to hold healthcare for 350m in reserve for one disease.

          1. Of Course the lawyers will sue everybody for everything they did, and everything they didn’t do. You expected maybe something different?
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            What’s more dangerous than a polar bear? A bipolar bear!

            1. Seeing as I was sued when I was 8 and had a call that resulted in months of worry of being sued, even though the choice made is the only reason they are alive, no.

      1. If anything I found this hopeful: it is so obviously not going to happen that it illuminates just now Not Screwed we are.

        Well, and I’ve been hearing Imminent Death Of The Country for so long that it is Tuesday.

  17. This little scenario is a Hugo Award winner for sure. Its everything they yammer about, all the time.

    The Canadian government is already moving on with its immigration/green/anti-capitalism program before they even start talking about opening the lockdown. We’ve got refugees crossing the border illegally again with government permission, we’ve got Special Lockdown Rules where some religions get to have their mosques open but churches have to be closed, and we’re about to have New/Better/Different! gun control legislation tabled. Because a known nut who was already convicted of assault and banned for life from having firearms… had firearms. Probably a stolen RCMP issued sidearm, but I’m assuming that based on the fact that he had an RCMP uniform and an accurate replica RCMP cop car. They didn’t tell us what kind of gun it was yet, because they know its going to look really bad.

    They let this guy have a cop uniform, a cop car and a gun, they let him run around for 16 hours and kill 23 people, but we need more gun control so that normal people don’t SNAP and go crazy killing everyone.

    Given that it took a pandemic to wake Canadians the hell up, it’ll be interesting to see what it takes before they finally turn on the Liberals. Probably a massacre.

    1. “The Boot” scenario won’t be a Hugo Award winner as-is. To be Hugo material, it would have to be changed either to give it the tone of an optimistic and desirable scenario, or else to make the evil oppressive government into a “right wing” one.

      The first would show happy people enjoying social justice for the first time ever, grateful to Benevolent Democratic Government, but then put in fear by the evil right wing haters using terrorism to terrify and tear it all down. The Good Government Agents would then have to impose merciful extreme measures to stop the bitter haters from unleashing yet another bio-warfare plague on the new, enlightened, and transformed America.

      The second would have it be Trump and the GOP-militia who won via mass voter intimidation. The evil Right would then go on to impose rolling permanent lockdowns to punish their Blue area critics, followed by cratering the economy via wrongheaded deregulated capitalist economics, and finally bringing down a general boot-stomp with various right-wing culture-war embellishments.

  18. “Teach your children well.”

    Swear allegiance to the flag
    Whatever flag they offer
    Never hint at what you really feel
    Teach the children quietly
    For some day sons and daughters
    Will rise up and fight while we stand still

    –Silent Running

  19. If the ChiCom Coof is so infectious and lethal, why has it not devastated grocery store staff?

    The grocery stores remain open, and the staff are exposed to almost everyone. Granted, they took some measures, but they remained open.

    No grim reaper rampage. Hmmmm

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/22/tucker-carlson-questions-the-wisdom-of-the-lock-down-approach/#more-189841

    Article discusses Tucker Carlson, but goes on to explore the grocery anomaly.

    1. Cashiers at my local grocery store still aren’t even wearing gloves and don’t seem much worried about it.

      1. It’s mixed here. Harbor Freight has giant plexiglass windows at each checker now, with a little hole for them to stick the scanner wand through. MacDonalds has plexiglass barriers over the drive-thru windows, reducing the openings to about a foot high. Other restaurants, you can walk in and order, but you have to take it outside to eat. Some are closer; dunno if it’s temporary or permanent. Gas stations are business-as-usual. You have to have your temperature taken to get into the hospital, but nobody appeared to care that I wasn’t masked and gloved.

        Flip side, some people wandering around with masks, gloves, and hair nets (?!), head on a swivel and darting back and forth like a mouse at a cat show. Some of them visible masked and gloved while driving.

        1. >> “Harbor Freight has giant plexiglass windows at each checker now”

          Various places here, too, but of my regular haunts only Wal-Mart and Dollar General are using gloves and masks. I’m not sure what good the plexiglass is supposed to do when you’re handling contaminated money and groceries with your bare hands all day.

          1. Business opportunity: a cash sterilizer. Drop or feed bills in, they get a virus-killing dose of heat or UV or both, then spits them out clean. Opportunities in “making change” size and in “cash drawer end of shift” size. Small change, you can probably just dunk in isopropanol for the right number of seconds.

            1. Back in the first half of the 20th century there were coin-washing machines. Posh hotels and restaurants had them, and fancy stores. When customers got change, it was all shiny-clean. Not sure what they did with the paper money, but I suspect they swapped it for new at an amenable bank,

              – TRX (remembers when ATM machine dispensed brand-new money with sequential serial numbers)

  20. A quick search for LA homeless deaths led with an April 23, 2019 article stating that the (PRE-WuFlu) death rate for LA homeless people from all causes was about 1.9%, or 1000 per year out of an estimated 53,000.
    April 23, 2020 total WuFlu deaths in LA (from MSN !) was 797.
    I looked at a detailed map of NYC for distribution of WuFlu deaths, and there are low-death neighborhoods next to or between high-death ones.
    I did not do an overlay, but it looked like the high-death areas were those on subway lines.
    Otherwise, in this, like many other areas, NYC just makes no sense.
    John in Indy

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