Yesterday, as I was finishing my epic kitchen clean up, I started getting phone calls. The first one was from a friend who confused me with my husband (seriously. He doesn’t even have an accent!) and because my phone doesn’t tell me the name of the person calling, I assumed it was a telemarketer. When things cleared up I found out Rush Limbaugh had read substantial portions of my article on PJMedia.
Because I’m lazy — which for Sarah-speak means “I actually have other stuff I need to do/finish.” — I’m just going to put links to the article, to Rush Limbaugh’s show, and to a video.
AND THEN I’m going to make a few pithy observations.
So, if you’re ready, here it goes:
This is the article: Modeling COVID-19 and the Lies of Multiculturalism.
This is Limbaugh’s show: The COVID-19 Models Can’t Account for Culture.
AND this is the video: If it doesn’t take you there, skip to 1:19:45
For the record, I’m honored, but it’s perhaps too much of an honor as I still haven’t processed this.
I first started hearing about Rush in 91. I only listened to bits and pieces of his show, ever, mostly because ADD. I guess, if I’d had bluetooth headphones, as I do now, I’d have developed the habit of listening to him while cleaning, all over the house. But back then, you know, with a toddler, my life was never precisely silent enough to listen while doing other things, and I have trouble sitting still and listening.
That said, I’ve read Rush Limbaugh. A lot. And I admired him madly, as I was deep in the political closet, because he was out there. He was speaking out. He was saying things that needed to be said, things that at least half the country was thinking, but which had no voice in mass media, ever.
He was one of the first breaks in the wall of false consensus that kept pushing the Overton Window further and further left. He was in many ways the beginning of “fighting back.”
He took an outdated medium, because it was the only thing they allowed us, and he turned it into a megaphone. And he changed the culture. Which is important, because politics is always and forever downstream from culture.
And for those who will say “but he got rich from it.” Sure. He did. OTOH a) it was a counterintuitive bet. No one goes into right-of-center anything for the money. Because right of center is anti-establishment. And establishment has ways of slapping you down from stepping out of line. Everyone who is right of center and manages to make a living, much less get rich, has to be 1000 times better than anyone spouting the “approved” leftist pap.
So, whether you realize it or not, standing up for the establishment cost him monetarily. It also cost him in psychological and stress issues, I guarantee. Why? Because the minute you step out of line, there are legions of brain dead establishment drones who devote their lives to attacking you, reviling you and wishing you ill. I, myself, have a few of these Renfields who devote their lives to twisting every word I ever said to make me sound either stupid or insane or perhaps criminal. It’s amazing that they devote so much time to this. To be fair, I have no idea who half of them are, unless the mental cases really intrude on my life in some way (and there’s always mental cases. Including those who go after you financially. At one point I was attacked on Facebook by someone who used to work for one of my publishers, and who screamed at me how horrible it had been to work with me. I had no clue who this person was. By asking, I figured out she’d copyedited Draw One In The Dark. So, her experience working with me was going over a completely apolitical book, back in the days when I wasn’t even out of the political closet. Also, that book was one of the more trouble-free copyedits I had. Mostly she’d moved commas around, and since I was out sick when they taught punctuation, I just assume the copyeditor is right. I don’t even remember any disputes. But because I disagreed with her politically this person had made that nothingburger interaction into some horrible experience, and is probably maligning me all over traditional publishing.) Most of the time I find out these people have written about me because some fan tells me. And the number of times I’ve clicked through to see their ravings is zero.
BUT I have dedicated Renfields, working for the establishment and trying to pound me down, because I’m the nail that sticks up. Imagine if you will what kind of crap Rush puts up with. And yet he persists.
Which is why I admire him immensely, and was moved to tears seeing him receive the presidential medal of freedom during the State of the Union.
I’ve said before I would never have come out of the closet without Breitbart. I probably wouldn’t even have thought of it without Rush. So, there it is. My little mite, such as it is, should be to his credit.
Meanwhile, while my close friends told me that because I was read by Rush on air, I was no longer respectable, and were joking — particularly as they said I’d no longer be bought by traditional publishing. Which is a forgone conclusion, and also, seriously? I’m not sure there will be a traditional publishing after this house arrest stunt. Their one advantage was placing paper bricks in bookstores. That might be gone now — there were comments elsewhere on social media that said that and were serious.
By having one of my pieces read on air by an icon of right of center media, I was beyond the pale.
My answer to that is what Portuguese fisherwomen did — and I never figured out what it meant, and mom still won’t tell me, so I suspect it’s obscene — which is holding one hand palm up and hitting it with the BACK of the other hand. That for your respectability!
If respectability consists of endorsing the Marxist thinking that has killed a hundred million (and probably more) across the world over the last hundred years, I want no part of it. You go on and be “respectable” all you want.
I’ll stand with the people like Rush, who are building a world where the individual counts for something, and where killing half of your population in a planned famine, or working them to death in work camps isn’t the laudable, done thing. Not to mention a world where no sane human being would collaborate with the Chicoms. (And btw, what makes me sick about the establishment working for and with the Chicoms is that I have a gut feeling it’s not even for money. They’re just that twisted.)
Anyway, if this is no longer being respectable, I don’t want to be respectable. Besides, us bad girls are always fascinating…
And now I’ll go work.
337 thoughts on “On Losing Respectability”
Respectability is overrated!
And with regard to working for the Chinks (Chicoms is way too nice) embrace the power of ‘and’. They are twisted and the money is very good.
Now, now, now — there are also Chinese who smuggle the truth to the rest of us. Which is not a trivial thing, there.
Indeed. It can get not just the messenger killed, but his or her kin punished with everything imagineable, from harassment to death.
Agreed. Those Chinese are not the ones dumping money into the press, universities, foundations and who knows where else to influence us however. The ones doing that I will continue to call Chinks.
Are you going to toss around other ethnic or racial slurs? Because they do not add any weight to your statements.
Quite the contrary.
I was considering granting a waiver on grounds that the Chinese Rulers attack us through the chinks in our system.
Opted instead to not make a issue of it. Our national Quisling Class needs little encouragement, and arguing over whether a term is a slur seems like to distract from the main charge against them.
call it the virus formally known as Winnie the flu.
(tip of the hat to prince, may he rest in peace)
Oh. National Quisling Class. I’m gonna start using that.
An ethnic slur is an ethnic slur. Adding a valid political description does not remove the slur part. Wash out your mouths with soap before your mother hears.
Look, folks. As the Noble Sage Boyd noted, it is essential to retain the moral high ground, mostly for the sake of your own troops’ motivation and trust in leadership.
Loss of morals also discourages friends and allies from helping you. Like Taiwan and Singapore, who did not do a darned thing wrong to get slurred by you.
The slur chosen also associates the US today with California’s old shameful laws against Chinese immigration and gainful work, and the mobs that did very bad things. Why would you want to associate yourself not just with evil, but with cowardice?
Come on, people. I know we are better and smarter than this. And the family brass knuckles are nice and clean now, not like when the last wearer got his property trampled by the KKK while being called ethnic slurs toward the Irish.
Also, it does not escape me that on the very day that Our Sarah gets national attention, somebody Discovers His Inner Racist. I don’t care if it is Murphy or enemy action.
Someone relatively new. I think.
BUT I’ll be honest, it’s going to get ugly. and the more they try to tamp it down, the uglier it will get. Because in hard times people find external enemies.
Also FYI for those who haven’t met them, my husband and older son are often interpreted as “some kind of Asian mix.” It’s not, it’s the Amerindian blood inn the shape of their eyes. However, when shaven, older son looks like an anime character, and husband was assumed IN PORTUGAL to be from Macau and a mix of Chinese and Portuguese. (This is not as evident, as he ages.)
So, since hard times tend to bring out prejudices and we’re in for VERY hard times, younger son and I will get shunned because we tan and ping Latin/Hispanic and older son and husband because “they look Asian”?
Is this the world ya’ll want? REALLY?
My wife was asked once if our son’s father was Mexican. (I, the father, was not present.) After being told “No” she asked “Are you sure?” Egad, we’ve laughed at that one for over 20 years.
I have also been accused of being American Indian and Asian.
Fuck you, sub.banshee. Your comments stink.
[written by a sub-literate moron. Probably Clamps. Is is his style. – SAH]
Gosh, that’s persuasive.
It totally refutes her logical argument and shows that you are a reasonable, mature person operating on a reasonable and civilized foundation.
and…. he’s blocked.
Dang, this crop of trolls is terrible.
I guess we were all supposed to jump in and yell rude words, or something.
I think it’s Clamps. It’s incoherent, brief, and bizarrely stupid. He never gets it doesn’t help.
Could be, but it could be a simple false flag, or a random a-hole who is working on the logic of “they say this word is rude to silence people, so ALL claims that things are rude should be deliberately violated, and anybody who doesn’t agree needs to be attacked.”
The random a-hole/bully logic can be observed around Mrs. Wright (Jagi) a lot, although I don’t e-visit her very much of late. She’s insanely nice and polite, and gets a lot of reactions like that.
Or something. Yes, very boring trolls.
I am not even inspired to steal from Cyrano in order to dismiss them.
Please critique my comments as well. I would value your opinion of them, as I value yours of Banshee’s.
Wow, that is the most persuasive comment I’ve ever read in the history of comments and persuasiveness.
I am humbled to be in the presence of an intellect on the scope of Aristotle, Augustine, and Aquinas; my own feeble intellect kowtows before you.
Historically, the Chinese people have been average to decent. The Chinese GOIVERNMENT (all of them) has been slime.
Call me crazy, but my modest familiarity with two continent-sized countries leads me to think that China is not monolith either.
As Mrs. Hoyt wrote, and Mr. Limbaugh amplified, nation, tribe, and culture matter (and if it makes you feel better to include race and it ehnicity, knock yourself out. This is a big picture “and” moment)
Rio do Sul is not Vittoria is not Belo Horizonte is not Amazonia. Texas is not Vermont. Austin is not Plano. The governments and people of those places aren’t the same either.
And while some are, taken all-in-all pretty good, at least as far as the locals go, some are, for the most part, garbage. But how can you write that, Mrs Hobbit? So judgy-! And in the latter case, so condemnatory-!
Easy-peasy: genocide for the gummint, and wet-markets for the culture (etc.) And if your little local issues, say communism, or a determination to sell and eat exotic animals (including, in all likelihood, lab animals) even when you know it causes epidemics, and even pandemics: The other folks outside your locale get a say.
Which may include phrases like YOU [Chinese / Brasilian / Californians / —- /] stink like the Big of Eternal Stench on Sulfer-appreciation night. Because excellent reason(s) such as above…
China almost certainly isn’t monolithic. We think of it as monolithic because it’s been that way since the late ’40s. But it spent almost half the Twentieth Century as a fragmented mess under the control of various warlords. And that was hardly isolated. Some of the dynasties ruled all of what was considered “China” at the time. Others only really ruled a big, particularly stable chunk of it. China seems to have been particularly lucky throughout its long history in that there weren’t really any neighbors in a position to take advantage of China’s weakness until the Mongols. And when the Mongols moved in (as the Manchu Dynasty, iirc), they ended up getting co-opted by the Han culture and bureaucracy.
Mongols were the Yuan (1200s). The Manchu (Qing – last dynasty, started in 1640s) are Siberian/Mongol descendants. They claimed to be restoring the Mandate of Heaven lost by the Ming (ethnic Han) and kept a lot of their own culture until the early 1800s. Then the bureaucrats won, and China lost.
To say it’s monolithic goes too far, there is a diversity of views there as much as any other place. Culturally though, the Han culture is fairly monolithic especially when you consider how wide the climate variations are.
Sort of like Germany before it coagulated, or the Italian peninsula.
Heck, Prussians were once seen mostly as unorganized, mostly amiable goofballs. (Maybe that was only some Swabians who thought so.)
As the saying goes, welcome to the dark side–we have cookies! We deplorables in flyover country have never been respectable in the way you mean the word, and have never missed so being. If anything, the “respectable” lot was only ever seen in a similar way to looking at a wolverine in a zoo: an exotic and non-human species that you are mildly curious about but would never, not even on a bet, interact with personally if you could possibly avoid it. It appears the time’s coming to do some vermin control of our society and to reduce the grasp and influence of the “respectable” to the small fraction of the populace that they actually are.
She’s actually one of the Deplorables in Flyover Country. Has been so, pretty much all the time I’ve known her.
Heh … I think of my fly-over self as less the deplorable and more the paratrooper behind enemy lines in Cook County. Someone has to open Causeway #2
I never got into Rush, or talk radio in general. The old guys I used to work with when I was a custodian always had him on in the break room, but I was usually reading. I know he has a huge following. And hopefully this exposure will lead to more paying gigs at PJM and elsewhere. It’s always good to get paid.
Hear hear for more paying work!
I remember the days when some restaurants would have Rush Rooms – often with smoking allowed – and people would get lunch, sit there, listen, and discuss politics. I didn’t always agree with him, but he did give reasons for his thoughts, which was more than most on the other side of the aisle did.
I’ve listened to Rush off & on for many years. I agree with him more often than not, but even when I don’t the facts he presents in his commentary to explain his opinions are nearly always correct. Most other news sources have a much lower batting average.
Without William S. Buckley, Thomas Sowell and Rush Limbaugh we would have slid much farther toward European style socialism than we have. They’ve helped keep reason alive.
I didn’t listen to him much until I drove a work van with an AM only radio. I realized fast, most people who, even if they agreed with him most of the time, greatly disliked the show/man, didn’t realize the Show is not the man, and the show was intentionally somewhat over the top. That was before hearing the “Pointing out the absurd by being absurd” line. I also always got a kick out of the leftoids trying to compete with him, and always, always failing.
Well, when you’re already absurd, trying to point out absurdity will always point at you in the end.
How absurd! (~_^)
Just remember what the walrus said . . .
Koo koo ka choo? 🙂
“I weep for you,” the Walrus said.
“I deeply sympathise.”
Hoon? no wait, that’s a manatee
A great deal of what Limbaugh portrays is merely an extension of the traditional AM DeeJay persona — he plays larger than life i order to cut through the clutter.
Once you’re in on the joke his going over the top is just part of the act, to be taken no more seriously than an Abbott & Costello tiff. The fact so many of the targets of his ridicule are blind to that just adds to the humour.
they do get all frothy
It makes one wonder that New York City (8 Million plus) is reporting Hundreds of deaths a day and San Antonio (1 .5 Million approx) has almost 800 cases total. This does raise some questions on what should be done in different areas. In San Antonio we are already seeing 80 degree plus weather some weeks. That would be June July weather for New York.
And that’s assuming the numbers are accurate, which is becoming an increasingly untenable position as time goes on.
I can almost guarantee you that NYC is fudging the numbers to make them look larger, for various reasons.
NYC Democrat pols would lie to us? Say it isn’t so! [/sarc]
I bet San Antonio is too. if you’re diagnosed with COVID-19 the government picks up your medical bills.
AND they pay 30% extra.
Yeah. Orders to doctors is to diagnose COVID by symptoms.
And now you know why San Antonio is hit.
In San Antonio, here — and it’s allergies, pollen – it was really bad for a couple of days, with that yellow dust all over the place! And the weather switching madly back and forth every couple of days does not help at all.
Both my daughter and I had running sinuses this morning, for what it’s worth.
there are a few things about Texas I definitely do not miss.
The yellow and green coating season is one of those things.
And my allergies are mild compared to some.
I will take the pollen of Texas to not deal with ice and snow of upstate NY. However, it is a close call some days.
I’m in a low snow neck of the north.
This winter was a not so bad one for snow. But it snowed yesterday and today, and is forecast to tomorrow. None is staying.
Though, to be honest the snow doesn’t bother me. The City snow plow driver, on the other hand . . .
Oregon Willamette Valley it allergies too. Pollen coats everything. Not sure which pollen it is. I just know I’ve been having horrible sneezing jags, and my eyes are itchy to the point of hurting, they are blood shot. Get this, I do not have allergies!!!!
My mom had vertigo and a horrible headache to the point of being nauseous yesterday. She’s 85. Upshot, pretty sure combination of the dang pollen. She has minor allergies mostly triggered by Scotch Broom, a very non-native invasive bush. In addition she’s been on a low carb diet (modified Keto). She also tends to Hypoglycemic. Bottom line between the diet, & the pollen, a first ever migraine triggered, resulting in the nausea & vertigo. This was after a teleconference call with her doctor (also mine), which ruled out minor stroke or CV19. Today she’s better. Doctor had her take Tylenol & anit-motion (sea sick) pills.
So far little sis & I are both holding off with the “This is how migraines feel, you know the ones we have each suffered from since we were kids?” And not diagnosed until we were adults & left home (to be fair “headaches” were “deal with it” back then, unless you collapsed, which neither of us did). Yes. We are saints.
Today I went out and scared the mailman by having a fit of coughing that sounded like I had TB. It only lasted next to a neighbor’s yard, so fairly sure it was something he’s growing.
I suspect mom’s problem is what her neighbors are growing … we know they are growing cannibals for medical for themselves & others. We thought that was suppose to stop when Oregon went legal. Apparently not, or it isn’t being enforced, or … they are still growing it in a residential neighborhood. I mean pollen is bad regardless. But …
Umm. . . I could understand how growing cannibals could be a great diet and exercise program, but. . . medical?
Can I blame it on auto-corrupt?
they renovated the Weinerschnitzel back in CA with new landscaping and right at the corner was a small bush that make me sneeze, my eyes itch uncontrollably etc… made it a pain to order. that particular bush disappeared after two weeks.
In Oregon, the yellow coating is usually Douglas Fir pollen. You don’t see the Scotch Broom pollen, but you see the bushes full of their yellow flowers all along the freeway.
During the douglas fir pollen season in central California, we not only could see it blowing in the wind like a thick yellow fog, we could sweep it up in piles on the driveway and sidewalks.
If it was worth something, we could have been rich.
I’m sure it’s worth something to another Douglas fir.
I read on another site that the Medicaid reimbursement to a hospital for a WuFlu death (not including the activities, procedures, and supplies billed seperately) is three times the payout for a pneumonia death.
The CDC stepped in to help with these economizing measures by defining a death with presence of WuFlu as a death FROM WuFlu, rather than, say, gunshot. Also, they have assisted by requesting / ordering doctors / coroners to list WuFlu as cause of death for any dearh from an URI, without other evidence or testing.
Heh… They were logging anyone testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 as having died of COVID-19 on the records. Seriously.
Oh, that would be REALLY tight parameters. It’s worse than that. They’re not testing. if people had the “symptoms” which are the same as for flu or pneumonia, it’s Covid-19.
GIGO. UTTER AND COMPLETE GIGO.
Can confirm. Have an acquaintance who had all the symptoms, so the doc told her she was a presumptive case and gave her the corresponding meds before sending her home. She asked about a test and he told her he couldn’t unless she was in an at risk group or needed hospitalization.
Now, I don’t blame his prescription. As an old Navy nuke I had “believe your instruments and take the actions for the most dangerous case that could cause those indications because that insures you’ll cover all possible bases” drilled into me. The theory was you could recover fairly quickly if it wasn’t that bad. I can see how a physician with a patient would use a similar rule: the worst this could be is X which is worse than Y, Z, or Q which are the other possibilities. The treatment for X isn’t that much more risky than for Y, Z, or Q and will cure them so treat it as X. That’s a respectable rule.
Where that isn’t is for trying to track an emerging phenomena. At the very list reporting should be: diagnosis by test, presumptive diagnosis, presumptive diagnosis later confirmed by test, and presumptive later disproved by test. The last two categories are helpful for two reasons: avoid double counts and provide data to better estimate how many presumptive are correct presumptions.
Not dead yet!
I would suggest raising New York to the ground and starting over, but that would involve destroying a great many classic buildings that I would dearly miss.
This is what neutron bombs were designed for.
Yup. Although I’m not sure they would be effective against Leftists. Cockroaches have high radiation resistance.
The word you want is “razing”, not “raising. Raising NYC to the ground would put the subways and such at ground level. THAT would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Cool!
Inigo Montoya voice, addressed to the self-declared elites: “Respectability: I do not think that word means what you think it means.”
Chris “Fredo” Cuomo thinks he’s respectable. ‘Nuff said.
Similar to thinking “education” means “graduated from the top schools, top schools”.
And similar to thinking that “diversity” means uniformity of thought. Indeed 1984 could have added that to its maxims:
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Conformity is Diversity
If you want updated Orwell, get a SocJus tee shirt with the new slogans:
Religion of Peace
Transwomen are Women
Diversity is Strength
*snickering* Oh, gads, I wish there was a way to put accents online. My husband has a terrible Godfather accent influenced rant about being respectable.
When one is told one is no longer ‘respectable’ the first question one needs to ask is, “Respected by who?” and the second is, “And why would I care?”
In any case, the Fascist Left do not respect ANYBODY. They FEAR some people, and pay lip service e to a handful of idols, but I cannot recall ever seeing signs of genuine respect from them toward anyone. I suppose that narcissism makes respect for others impossible.
Which is why they are not able to understand anyone else having respect that isn’t born out of fear. Whether that be an Armed Society, or a Family.
Bingo on the respect for the self only.
One of the most valuable insights Jordan Peterson has pushed is that anyone who claims “socialism hasn’t been done right or it would have worked” is telling you “socialism would work if I was in charge because I’m smart and wise enough to do it.”
Which is reviving the teaching of classic Greek literature is so important, if only to explain why Socrates was told by the Oracle he was the wisest man alive.
At this point I no longer care if the nitwits saying ‘Socialism hasn’t been done right’ mean’I could do it’ or ‘our Betters, whom I trust, could do it’. My answer is “Socialists have had more than a century to get it right, and have failed. Socialism has exhausted any benefit-of-the-doubt to which it might have been entitled. Either produce a small-scale model that works, or friggin’ DO SOMETHING ELSE!”
That’s not so much my point.
Someone who says they could be a good dictator is someone to keep at arms length and have a weapon on them at all times.
Emperor Norton was someone worth entertaining his assumption of authority. At worst he was a harmless crank and at best he inspired people to be better. “Socialism just hasn’t been done right” people are at best dangerous fools and at worst low rent Pol Pots who are a threat at all times.
What passes for their thought process:
1. Socialism works for ants and termites
2. We’re smarter than ants and termites
3. We can totally make socialism work for humans!
See? The logic is irrefutable!
Please try to remain calm. You can panic if you want to, but it won’t help.
It’s the first thought that always bothered my Mother; the answer to it being “You want to live like an ant or termite?”
Was she racist against ants and termites, or something?
It is precisely because we are smarter than ants and termites that socialism has serious issues.
Ants and termites are as individuals not smart enough to fundamentally change the system that controls their interactions. That system was either designed by evolution acting on emergent properties, or by God. Either way, it is a much cleverer design than an ant could fully comprehend and analyze the effects of changes on.
If peasants are not so stupid that it is their simple due to follow aristocratic leadership (and modern socialism does not propose that maybe the ancien regime was best ( they want socialist trained technocratic bureaucrats, not Christians who disbelieve in socialism)), then all humans are roughly as smart as any other humans. If all humans are roughly as smart as any other humans, if fundamental redesigns of human society are possible for the anointed few, they are possible for any one. What is the effect of simultaneous implementation of conflicting social designs? Certainly, it will not be as simple as a design a human can understand.
It seemed plausible to Marx, because Marx had the bred in confidence of his superiority over his social inferiors of a man who impregnated his family’s slave. He was the one communing with the hidden mystical forces, and it certainly wasn’t a level of ‘analysis’ that millions of ‘grew up poor’ would surpass in my generation alone.
Yes, maybe humans can be raised or trained to have little volition. a) individual volition is necessary for projects beyond a certain size and complexity b) individuals without volition raised to modern socialist ideology are rabid dogs. Who would lose to individuals without volition raised to a Christian ideology, much less to free men who have Christian beliefs.
You haven’t noticed how “respect” has been redefined to mean “fear”?
It may not be the dictionary definition yet, but it’s how the Left has been using it for quite some time now.
*cue Kartman quote from _South Park_*
Was briefly confused, thought “What South Park quote is Kratman particularly noted for?”
I think you might be referencing Cartman’s “respect my authority”.
That’s the one. Sorry about the misspelling.
Don’t sorrow; be happy.
It caused me to realize that the world needs a Thomas E. Kartman institute or foundation for the advancement of legal theory.
You can also parse the difference between respect meaning “treat me like a person” and respect meaning “treat me like an authority”
My only previous experiences with audiobooks was as a passenger in a car, which is why I hated them. I never tried to listen to one when I was doing something else. Maybe that’ll work better, since I also cannot simply sit and listen.
As for respectability, I suspect this goes back into the many definitions of respect: admiration vs acknowledgement of dignity. And really, who wants the admiration of those who lack dignity or any acknowledgement of same?
I hate being read to. But I’m easily bored, and much of the work I do is boring. So audiobooks are the least-bad thing.
And some are good. But I actually LIKE being read to.
“But I actually LIKE being red”
Ah, so you finally admit the superiority of communism! 😉
Wrong red. She has been a Republican for years. That red.
Only in that the Republicans come somewhat closer to her true belief system which is small L libertarian.
Personally, given the massive shift to the left by the Democrats it amazes me that the party still has any influence on America whatsoever. I am forced to believe that most of the people are either idiots or asleep at the switch, or both.
Propaganda is powerful. As is envy.
As is massive vote fraud and stacking leftist states with electoral votes and House seats based through massive illegal immigration
If I didn’t have a majority of family and friends that are all in on the OMB train I might believe it was just their complete ademocratic bent. But there is a large part of population that eats the lies up
You guys get a lot of mileage out of a typo.
Why not make something fun from a mistake?
Especially when its a really good reader. Jim Dale who read the Harry Potter series is amazing. Several others are pretty good too. This and podcasts are what I used to listen to on the train in the morning. Not in the afternoon/evening as I’m on my way home and wouldn’t want to miss my stop. On the way in its not an iussue as I’m going to North Station the end of the line.
The guy who played Spike the vampire reads the Dresden Files books; my husband is hooked.
The guy who does Hank the Cowdog (mood whiplash!) is also the author, and he’s been awesome at it since I was a kid. (books on tape)
Taking part in the free-for-the-quarantine thing from Audible with three of the like 90 books.
Lloyd James, the reader for Citizen of the Galaxy, among other Heinlein books, does a terrific job. He even slips a taste of Sean Connery into Old Baslim’s speech.
A quick check at Audible indicates they’ve substituted a new reader for the book? Dismay, dismay, dismay! The James reading is still available on CD, however.
Roger Zelazny’s reading of Nine Princes In Amber is highly interesting, making clear the book’s origin as a hard-boiled detective novel.
If you can find them, Tony “Baldric” Robinson has done some hilarious readings of both Terry Pratchett and Diana Wynne Jones books. Probably not what you ought listen to while driving, however.
One other reader/book combination of superlative brilliance: somehow the producers of the Audible version of the How to Train Your Dragon series got a then unknown British actor name of Tenant to read the series.
I sometimes wonder whatever became of him.
Is this piracy?
No. How to Train Your Dragon: How to Be a Pirate is the second book in the series.
With regards to narration, I have had few issues just getting books that I think I might want to listen to, but I really like Bronson Pinchot as the narrator. He has done a fair number of books that The Horde has at least heard of. Books read by their authors (pretty much the norm for nonfiction) have been hit and miss for me.
My least favorite narrator so far is Kymberly Dakin. I think the most surprising narrator so far was John Waters, and he was so surprising because the narration wasn’t surprising. If you take my meaning.
Jim Dale of the Carry-On series did the whole Harry Potter series. Kept my brood entranced for hours in the car.
If I am doing yard work, house cleaning, meal preparation or any of a hundred and one other mindless activities I much prefer being read to (or listening to a podcast) over the alternative. Believe me when I say that nobody sane wants the thoughts that occur in my head when the brain is idle allowed out to wander in the world. Even Gojira has looked askance at me and said, “Whoa, wallaby! Where’d that dark thought come from?* Never mind, I’m happier not knowing.”
*Yes, Gojira ends sentences with prepositions; he’s a monster.
Good, now I can blame you when said thoughts show up in my brain.
Myself, I listen to music for those activities.
Of course, part of my playlist is always “March of Cambreadth.” (An especially good track when I’m tenderizing steak or murdering weeds…)
It also really depends on the voice doing the reading and individual preference. There are books I really like, but the person doing the reading for the audio book has a voice I can’t stand to listen to for more than a few seconds. Always, always sample before buying and see if you can stand the person doing the reading.
And then there are voice/book combinations that are freaking PERFECT. John Cleese reading THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS! Patric Macnee reading one of Peter Mayle’s Provence books. And sometimes the voice can really surprise you. The narrator of the audiobook version of “Mrs. Todd’s Shortcut” is a woman. Reading a story told by a male New England Old Fart. And she makes it WORK!
Sure, some of the performances are outstanding. But the genres I listen to seem to be heavily represented by a small pool of readers – Snot Man, Sneerboy, and Whiny Girl, as I call them. Snot Man doesn’t seem to be doing any new stuff, but Sneerboy and Whiny Girl have clones now.
Sigh. I know what you mean.
The biggest problem is speed. A lot of people like to use the “fast” settings on their audiobook player, which is fine. But Audible sped their copies up at the source, which stinks. I have to listen to them at .7 to hear the narrator more like himself.
They are what replaced Rush on my lunch time walks. Depends on the book, but I often find them enjoyable enough to relisten. How the Universe Got Its Spots by Janna Levin is a prime example. Doesn’t hurt that she finally got me to grok relativistic mass.
This all reminds me of hearing broadcasts of the Orson Welles radio play, “War of the Worlds”. Despite regular advisement that the broadcast was not real, people not only were frightened – they were, in some cases, scared to death.
You are correct. this is exactly what it’s like
FYI the number of people who heard the broadcast was fairly small and no, there wasn’t a wide panic. It’s a myth begun by newspapers like NYT – classic “FAKE NEWS!” – to show that the new medium, radio, had the potential to cause harm. It’s one of those myths that repeated endlessly, like Hitler’s Pope and Catherine the Great’s Death By Horse.
The gullible-public “War of the Worlds Broadcast” trope is taught in the J-school seminaries, so it must be held as an item of unquestioned faith.
And said item of faith sets aside that the entire last act is not even in faux-news-broadcast form.
On the other side, the extant recordings bear all the audio hallmarks of some of those “this is only a drama – chill out” announcement being added after the fact, as cover for the Mercury Theater and the network. I believe they did announce things, just not as often as the current recordings indicate.
In Portugal they substituted Portuguese place names.
Dad became aware of the insanity when his parents — who weren’t STUPID — were getting ready to bug out as the Martians approached.
Ironically, I read and heard the truth in Communications classes. Profs assigned such texts as “The First Casualty” and coursepacks (remember those?) of out-of-print sources. The War of the World story was debunked in the late ’40s or ’50s in the memoir of a beat reporter. Little known fact: CBS (which started as radio) broadcast Welles show and many of their affiliates substituted local programming which brought in more revenue in the local markets. So even the oft-repeated claim that millions across the country heard it is sketchy.
Funny aside: In 2013, Slate (of all places) ran a piece criticizing NPR’s “anniversary” repeating of the myth. NPR’s response? They called for first- and second-hand accounts of what actually happened! My grandfather had a pretty sharp mind going into his 90s, but if I asked him about the non-reaction of people to radio drama, he’d probably say, “I don’t recall” or “The papers said city-slickers…” (repeating the myth).
Er…. dude. They repeated the trick in Portugal. When my dad was an adult. The village lost its freaking mind.
Dad who both recognized the book and knew about the American bit had to calm people down.
I don’t think people in the US were much better.
SOME OF THIS SHIT ISN’T MYTHS. Yeah, I’d feel better if it were, but no.
The New York still-existing papers reported a panic in the streets that didn’t happen, is what I’m saying. Stories in the Advertiser or other defunct NY newspapers might have disputed it, but newspapers all over the world picked up NYT stories on the wire. Now it’s “true” because The Paper of Record says so.
I’m sure in thirty years (or less), it will be indisputable fact that the Republican governor of Michigan knowingly allowed POC Flint residents to die of lead in municipal water. My European friends were quite surprised to hear otherwise from me, but at least I could point to articles in the Flint Journal (a dying local paper) and MILive (purely online news) about the malfeasance of local authorities. The NYT and its ilk will be archived, and therefore, be cited into perpetuity.
Oh. People panicked though. I don’t know how severely, of course. In Portugal it was severe.
I have no doubt.
Why would anyone want the respect of assholes? Be glad the assholes despise you, for that means you are doing something right.
Got a Thrill of the Month a while back when Lew Rockwell e-mailed and asked if he could feature one of my comments as an original posting on his blog. It’s nice when folk you respect recognize your efforts.
I listened to Rush from 1992 until fairly recently, when living in Canada made it pretty hard to get a decent signal. I’ve hear that guy be wrong occasionally, but I’ve never heard him lie. The -only- broadcaster who can say that, I think.
Congrats on getting on that show, Sarah. Rush has been the Voice In The Wilderness for a long time, and hearing him report your story was a treat.
Yes, models do make assumptions. Obviously, the first of which is that each measured particle must be assumed to be the same as all the others. No, humans are NOT all the same, and an unwillingness to address that problem in the modeling reveals one of the many, many idiotic blind spots the Left has.
I’m most familiar with this from the gun control “debate”/propaganda, which has some of the worst models and worst policy ever constructed. Example, long ago there was a very celebrated study: Kellermann, Arthur, et al., “Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home,” New England Journal of Medicine, October 7, 1993, Vol. 329 No. 15, pp. 1084-91.
Very prestigious! New England Journal of Medicine, major study out of Chicago, huge media blitz, holy schlitz a gun in the home is more likely to kill you than a robber!
Now, leaving aside the many fatal flaws the study has (like a -dog- in the home is as likely to get you killed as a gun) the first and most fatal flaw is the unexamined assertion that downtown Chicago around Cook County Hospital was an appropriate place to take a sample population for a study about violence in the home.
Well, its not. Downtown Chicago consistently has the highest murder rate in the USA. The people who live downtown have a completely different culture from even the ones who live ten miles away in the suburbs. Not really any valid comparison to rural Oklahoma is possible. The idea that they are the same makes you laugh.
Well, here we have another model built by people who should damn well know better, assuming the spread of COVID-19 aka the Wuhan Flu is going to be the same in Cook County and it is in rural Oklahoma. Or even that Chicago will have the same course as NYC. Or Singapore!
I give this modeling the same weight as the Kellermann gun control study. Its doodoo.
Which is why I completely stopped paying any attention to the news around about March 15th, they’ve all been parroting the horrid Death Count predictions and trying to get us all to panic. I can’t do what I need to do too keep body and soul together if I’m being driven into a panic.
That “study” if I am remembering correctly, considered only a fatal shooting of a burglar as a “success” , eliminating cases where a frightened or wounded intruder fled the scene.
I think it safe to assume most of the readership here understood that flaw before reaching the period after “scene”.
Yep, that’s too stupid not to be malicious.
Malicious is assumed in the gun control “debate.” Kellermann has a PhD in Public Health, he knows what a good study looks like. This was not a study. It was a political platform for the DemocRat Party, plain and simple. Fraudulent from start to finish, and probably they cooked the data as well. The authors refused to release their data when it was demanded of them by Congress.
People still quote this thing as “settled science.”
Yes, the killing of a criminal intruder was considered the “success” state of the study. I use it as an example of how to do EVERYTHING wrong and still get published in NEJM. This is the study Kellermann and the CDC got in trouble with the US House investigation for because he wouldn’t provide his raw data. So on top of everything else, he used federal money to publish and promote false science. How he’s not in jail remains One Of Those Things that bother me.
However, the most important failure of the paper for our purposes today is the assumption that you can extrapolate from downtown Murder City USA and get numbers that are meaningful for Podunk Idaho. Or Ahwatukee Arizona. You can’t. That’s not how it works.
But Leftists still DO it, and we need to be smart about that. Somebody offers you national numbers about anything at all from pork consumption to IQ to shoe size, you need to know they’re full of shit. Different regions are DIFFERENT, moreso that some foreign countries.
The CDC Contracted the study to him and in the contract it only specified the Report part as the Required document. The data and methods were HIS. So the Congress had no way to force him to turn them over. Then Congress looked closer and found that ALL the anti-gun studies were contracted this way. THAT is when Congress blew it’s top and made into law that all gun involved studies from then on would have to be done by the CDC. They could do all they wanted but the data and methods would be made public. The CDC never made another gun study because they KNEW that the data NEVER supported the anti-gun side.
That is why ALL Anti-gun studies NEVER EVER make their data and methods known.
CDC for a LONG time has been more interested in politics (Left Wing) than in doing the jobs.
Thanks Dan, I did not know that little fact there. Always nice to know the reasons for things, eh? ~:D
Why in Hell is the CDC doing ‘studies’ on CRIME? The Sheriff doesn’t go around treating diseases!
If the CDC is competent at anything (NOT making any assumptions about that) it’s not criminology.
Do you have a cite for that? Because I’d love to be able to throw it in some people’s faces.
Bing is “helping” me so much that I can’t get any useful results, but if you found the congressional record for March 6, 1996, before the Subcommittee of the committee on appropriations of the house of representatives for the department of labor, health and human services, education and related areas– that would probably have the information.
It’s when this guy did his testimony:
Why is he not in jail? He gave the ruling class the answers they wanted. His mistake was merely getting caught.
The odd thing is by mid-February I started to be concerned people weren’t taking this seriously enough.
By March 15th I wondered what the hell was going on as we were a month of where I thought we’d be based on February in terms of panic without having the spread I expected to be necessary to cause it.
I don’t think I’ve changed in my evaluation so much as the rest of the world went from not paying attention to freaking the f**k out.
The media is freaking out, but the -government- (considered as the great mass of alphabet-soup divisions and sub-divisions) is either frantically CYA-ing because they failed (anything with public health in the title) or looking for a bigger budget because “never let a crisis go to waste.”
It is worth pointing out right now that although we peons are all hiding and stuff, there are still airplanes delivering loads of people from China to the USA and Canada just the same as if nothing was happening. Anything they’re screaming about today is taking place in the same continuum of control as those airline flights.
Enough people have gotten sufficiently sick for the general public to pay attention. I always wondered what it would take, and it took a fucking PANDEMIC to get them to look up. But those planes are still flying, delivering fresh cases from the original outbreak. So now that the -public- is finally taking this shit seriously, we still haven’t seen what it will take to get the machinery of government to do the same.
Note that by “take seriously” I do not mean handing out tickets to people walking the “wrong” way on the sidewalk like they are in Boston. That is frivolous Karen-ism, not a useful response. I’m talking about protecting supply chains to urban populations, repatriating production of vital equipment and consumables, rebuilding stockpiles, the kind of things adults do when times are hard.
Re: airlines. One reason I do not think they are taking this serious is the first thing that was closed was not airports.
I know I’m a broken record on the JAMA article that looked back at 1919, but that is the only serious work I have seen on this and it is old enough (2007) I don’t think it was done to spin for current government.
And it did not endorse what we have done for the most part. We are not engaged in serious quarantine efforts of affected people or we’d have real testing to identify who to quarantine. In 1919 they did not shut down everything. They shut down schools (kids are little germ factories) and large public socialization, so restaurants, bars, theaters, but not factories and offices.
The one thing beyond 1919 I can see straight out is airplanes. Enclosed spaces used to spread things around sound like something to stop.
In 2003 Canada has SARS. Imported direct from China, it was killing healthy medical staff in Ontario. We dodged that bullet, barely, and a huge inquiry at all levels of the public health system rooted out all the problems and made recommendations. It happened again with bird flu, and it happened AGAIN with H1N1.
That’s why the strategic stockpile of PPE was created and put in place, because they got caught short in 2003.
Dr. Theresa “you don’t need a mask” Tam was one of the authors of the SARS after-action report. She’s the big kahuna of Health Canada now. She really does know every damn thing that should be getting done.
They -know- you have stop air travel. They -know- you have to have local PPE stockpiled to give manufacturing a chance to catch up. They -know- that social distancing is a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. They -know- that the food/fuel/shelter supply chain is more vital in Canada than in most other countries, because of the weather. They -know- that importing foreign farm labor is a bad idea, both from a public health view and an economic one.
But there is no political will to do the things they KNOW have to be done. Because up until now, not very many people died. Money rolls in from China, government officials get rich rich RICH and nobody wants to change anything.
Its corruption at the highest possible levels. Chicoms bought the Liberal Party of Canada, lock stock and two smokin’ barrels.
Don’t discount that many of the politicians in that party agree with the CCP ideologically.
The odd thing is by mid-February I started to be concerned people weren’t taking this seriously enough.
By March 15th I wondered what the hell was going on as we were a month of where I thought we’d be based on February in terms of panic without having the spread I expected to be necessary to cause it.
It went from “you’re hateful for thinking twice before hugging someone who just came back from a month in China” to “OMG SNEEZE EBOLA ALL GONNA DIE!!!!”
My daughter and I had been following all the coronavirus stuff on … well, mostly the Daily Mail. We were concerned enough about it all by mid-February to give serious thought to stocking up at the the end of that month. Just – extra stuff to keep in the freezer or on the shelf when my SS payment came through. At the end of that month, we were thinking that shoppers were being quite level-headed. Everything stocked up, even OTC flu and cold meds. Cleaning supplies. And then mid-March. Everyone and everything came unglued when Fiesta was cancelled. The weekend after that was insane in the stores. The staff at our local HEB looked like they had been pole-axed.
Did you have any of the “you racist how dare you avoid folks who may have visited China” pop up in your stuff?
We had that pop up…. let’s see, was either during or just after Heavensturn in FF14, which ended January 14th. (Japanese lunar new year game event. Year of the Rat.)
That’s about the time the first US diagnosed cases was flying back from China, into Seattle.
It’s jsut… none of this response *makes sense*!
I wonder… is the world be played by China? Yes, of course, but not just that. How long was the thing out in the wild… before the Great Announcement that resulted in The Great (Over)Reaction?
They might just be making hay while the sun shines.
Well, the fact that the ChiComs from China where WuFlu came from and Winnie is God-Emperor prohibited flights internal to China originating from Wuhan but let international flights depart full from Wuhan raises some questions.
Oh, that’s just normal China.
“F you, I’m doing waht’s good for me.”
The thing that bugs me is that when we didn’t know and there was reason to believe it could be a catastrophe we were told it was nothing. Now that we know that it’s likely to be nothing and they’re having to make up deaths to cover up how much nothing it the same clowns are still running around with their hair gel on fiiiire. It hard to have the same clowns be wrong coming and going yet still gurning and pounding their chests.
Blood tests done on pregnant women in NY hospitals show 15% infection rates. Simple math pushes the death rate from the 37bp found in Germany well down into seasonal flu territory in NYC and de minimus in the US as a whole.
Sadly, there will be no honest count of dead now because they are systematically falsifying the records in order to gain funds and cover their tuches from the outcry that would follow from an accurate count.
Not having an honest count means people like Comrade Murphy can announce today his intention keep the citizenry under de-facto house arrest, Cuba/Venezuela style, until June or July. He also said without any shame that it was crucial for people to obey his orders. The only thing missing was a Hugo Boss uniform.
I know, but it’s done. We elected the clown, and Spartacus, and that admirer of young Dominican girls. Much as we elected Jimmy McGreevey, Harrison Williams, Frank Lautenberg, The list goes on.
Or we let fraud elect them.
Trying to postpone the inevitable recall petitions?
No recall in NJ so far as I know. We used to name train stations after them (this is God’s honest truth, never have a train station named after you in nj). Then they would get caught and go to jail. Now we re-elect them after they’ve been acquitted of bribery because friends do things for friends and never speak of the Dominican hookers cause, well you know. Or have our senator talking about Hambone when he grew up in Old Tappan with both parents VPs at IBM. Ghetto that is.
So NJ is a lost cause because we are OK with the corruption as we’ve always been without realizing that the corruption isn’t the same as it was and orange man bad. For the rest, were the truth to come out there’d be a revolution. Nice to think about in abstract but that’d be the end of the USA as we know it and what would arise would almost certainly be worse.
When I was very small we lived in a town down the coast from Belfast, my father had a contract with the DoD with Short Brothers. Mixed town, as the rural ones tended to be. We had to leave when the troubles started up. The thing about civil war is there are no neutrals and you don’t get to pick what side you’re on.
I remain optimistic, but I’m leaving NJ as soon as I retire and the number of places I can go seems to shrink every day. This Karen thing is horrifying. I knew they existed but so many?
THAT’s when I was worried.
Once it went above Harry and Meghan in the Mail, I knew it was finally being taken seriously.
90% of the problem with ‘studies’ these days boils down to the Progressive’s obsession with nudging people and steering society. Early on they latched onto the undeveloped field of ‘sociology’ and before it could even TRY to grow up to be something other than propagandistic drivel, they were deliberately AND unconsciously distorting ‘studies’ to push people into to doing What They Were Told. I think it’s going to take a century, minimum, to untangle to trek from the useful. For example; I believe that smoking is unhealthy (although I smoke cigars). I also believe that the vast majority of the ‘studies’ made about smoking are dumpster fires.
(I also think that if somebody did a serious investigation into the finances of the anti-smoking Crusade and lot of slimy things might scuttle out from under assorted rocks)
There was a time when some members of the Progressive Left were somewhat honest some of the time. That time is gone. At the moment, if you assume that anything you are told by the Progressive Left is a lie intended to put you at a disadvantage, you won’t be wrong often enough to matter.
One of the things I’ve noted about all of the smoking studies, none of them have examined whether the ignition process played a role in the carcinogenic processes. A zippo lighter (used by a huge number of the “Greatest Generation”) will peg a meter used for air quality (extremely polluted). Sulphur matches aren’t good for lung tissue either. The dolomite particles used for the friction generation do interesting things in high temperatures.
Personally, I’ve always felt that the actual targets of the anti-smoking campaign were the Blue Dog Democrats of the Southern States. Tobacco money got many, many of them elected. As always, follow the money.
The “flint” in lighters is not flint. It is ferrocerium. Inhaling the oxidized result is not exactly prudent.
It is, however, excellent material for starting a fire quickly in the field. No prep kit is complete without it. The magnesium bar fire starters typically have a rod of ferocerium down one side. Great gear.
FWIW, my math stats prof was original on one of the big smoking studies and demanded her name be taken off of it. They wanted to report certain findings as 95% confidence interval (the gold standard) when the answers they wanted were only around 90% so they fucked and rearranged data so they could get the range of values they wanted to 95%.
She said, “no mas” and washed her hands of participating in the study.
I say of Rush — as I’ve said of Bill Whittle and VERY few others — that, when we disagree and he’s not wrong on the merits, I change my mind.
Sounds like me and Dr. Pournelle. If he said something I disagreed with, I started checking MY logic. Anyone else, and I looked at THEIR reasoning first.
Yep. that’s what I did.
My come to Jesus moment on the 16 election though was when Jerry AND L. Neil Smith both told me “no, trust me, vote for Trump” two days apart.
I went “the hell? I MUST be wrong.”
Bill is being very emotional on this whole wu-flu thing, and arguing like a leftist. I don’t actually know why. And he and Rush disagree.
So. . We have Sarah-dittoes now ???😁
Just for your information, I think the gesture you’re talking about is the “moutza” or an offshoot. In Greece, it’s about as rude as you can be with just a gesture. ( https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/10-rude-hand-gestures/#mistake2 )
I doubt it. At least not the one in that shot. It’s more your hand open and held down, and then you clap on it with the back of the other hand. It sounds incredibly obscene.
That said, Portugal has a ridiculous number of survivals from the Roman empire, and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s wide-spread towards the Mediterranean (which Portugal is by culture, if not by geography.).
I’ve seen the gesture, but only from movie Sicilians.
I’ve seen it as a sort of insult as well as basically meaning “All out of it”
“Got any fresh calzone?”
slaps back of hand with other
“Nope, sold last one to him.” ***points to me***
Or that someone was using the insult instead of the sorta Balkan, sorta Sicilian Back of one hand slapping the palm of the other as much the same meaning. Guy was Greek though.
Greek guy with a pizza shop . . . welcome to America (~_^)
Don’t know why my post vanished.
We attended a grand opening of a Marco’s pizza parlor a few years ago.
The owner was Jordanian.
Welcome to America, indeed!
One of the little deli places in Texas that served TexMex heavy on the Mex was owned by a Syrian. The old lady cooking was white.
The head chef at the best Italian restaurant I ever ate at was Vietnamese. That restaurant was in Texas, too.
Best Mexican joint I been to was in Florida.
Though the family running it was Mexican (the daughters had amazingly beautiful pale blue-grey eyes).
*gets the giggles* Oh, gad, the OK sign that I’ve always had folks flip out and go “oh, that’s offensive in foreign places” is offensive in… Brazil?
BTW, you have something in your teeth. Just since your o-dark-thirty self missed this, Limbaugh received the Presidential Medal of Freedom; Audie Murphy, eg., received the Medal of Honor.
Sigh. Yes, it was really late. After Instie posting. Thanks. I’ll fix.
Il y a pas de quois.
(San sarif fonts have short comings at times.)
Y’all are in the BIG LEAGUES now, Sarah. Be interesting to see how many days go by before the usual suspects(commiecrats and their baggage handlers) come over here and start screeching at you. So many targets… need more time and more rounds, heh, heh.
If they’re interesting I won’t block them IMMEDIATELY. 😉
You’ll let us make them dance for a while first?
Oh, good … I really like to bat around trolls, when I am bored. In between bouts of household reno, and writing. The gym is still closed due to Covid-19 quarantine, so I really could use the exercise.
The troll-immune system response here is so great that it is sometimes hard to get any whacks in through the crowd.
Yes, I am *seriously* far more amused by Cells At Work that is really justified…..
Sadly, mostly they are interesting in the same way the entrails of a chicken or contents of a baby’s diaper are interesting.
Good, as I’ve gotten older it’s taken me longer to get the fire exactly on the target.
“BUT I have dedicated Renfields, working for the establishment and trying to pound me down, because I’m the nail that sticks up.”
“Dedicated” is the wrong word here. “Obsessed” is more accurate.
Yes, I checked. Yes, they are. No, I’m not quoting or linking them.
I imagine all the camel-sniffers are having a virtue-paroxysm. I can’t be assed to go and look. Stupidity is sticky, they say.
Clean your browser for twenty seconds after visiting their blogs.
Wear a mask? ~:D
Remember to practice socialist distancing.
May first, hit the streets. if possible, hit the closed parks. Wear yellow.
Planning on being out and about Thursday through Sunday (Holy Week for the Orthodox). If the governor rescinds his lockdown order (mostly voluntary and widely ignored anyway) today, we’ll do it openly. If not, we’ll try to be as unobtrusive and as observant of people’s concerns as possible, but we definitely will be holding Holy Week services.
I guess we’re all planning to misbehave now?
One does not “plan” to misbehave. One aims to misbehave.
Your penance is to rewatch the entirety of Firefly and Serenity.
The only hard part of that is figuring out how in God’s Green Earth it was written by Joss Whedon.
If someone has the proper appreciation of the series than they are rewarded. If they do not, then it will be a punishment.
This is justice in action.
If you ever listen to Whedon’s commentary tracks on the DVDs, you’ll realize that except for that episode that turned into a dumbed-down “homage” to The Crucible, someone (his wife?) kept him focused on the characters and their consistency. I wish he’d had that with Buffy (“Okay, in this episode all her friends and allies are going to turn on her – again – because reasons. Also, kill the good witch because she’s the only one with a consistent conscience.”)
Consider how many Progessive creatives see themselves and the works they create as rebelling against the establishment – without realizing Progressives became the establishment years ago.
I’ve long ago concluded that much of the success of Firefly is attributable to Tim Minear, co-executive producer with Whedon. Whedon gets all of the credit, but like Buck Henry to Mel Brooks on Get Smart, it is the combination of the two which strikes sparks of genius.
Note: othe Minear credits include: Angel, American Horror Story, Wonderfalls, Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman (as executive story editor) and 9-1-1. [See: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0591101/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr4 ]
“thoughts beyond their thought to those high bards were given.”
I wish I could watch them. I’ve listened to them all, but looking at the screen for more than a few moments gives me motion sickness. They turned the “give the camera to a spaz” up to 11.
Someday someone may come up with a steadicam plugin for VLC…
It seems that people love to turn bugs into features. Almost the instant it bacem possible to record things really, really well without the amplifiers introducing distortion, it became fashionable to add distortions. The camera-shake thing seemed to get really popular just a bit after the steady-cam technology arrived.
cinema verite was popular for a couple decades before the Steadicam was invented- as least among the film world’s equivalent of the literati. In mainstream films, it look over two decades.
You can add lens flares to your artwork in Photoshop.
I’ve got a brown (Victorian tweed) coat.
No. The technical term is civil disobedience.
Hmm. I need to buy a yellow shirt. Don’t currently own one.
Time for a bit of disobedience.
I don’t have a yellow shirt. Or a yellow vest. I have a PT belt, though. Does that count?
God forbid you get caught WITHOUT your PT belt
Me too. On my list for the next couple of days.
Dang it, I wish I had read this earlier. I would have asked the gentleman at the store this afternoon where he found his sneakers. Black man, all black clothes – EXCEPT for the canary yellow high top sneakers. It might look rather strange at night – but you’d never be able to claim that you didn’t see him from a mile away. (I would swear that they were fluourescing in the sunlight.)
That would be so appropriate – “Yes, I am being disobedient. Yes, I am wearing yellow as a protest. Here’s a closer look…”
“You say I should darken them? Do really WANT me to kick your ass, is that it?”
My Gadsden flag arrived this morning.
I, too, have a Yellow Vest. Guess that’ll have to do.
May First, May First, the First of May … seems to me I recall some traditional association with May Day … I’m sure it will come to me.
Don’t fancy the idea of wearing yellow, though. Uniformity has never sat well with me when applied to people. Uniformity is for parts. A Gadsden flag scarf might look snazzy, however.
Yeah. We’re taking the day from the commies.
Since they’re commies, they should approve of our redistribution.
#EndTheLockdown trended again the other day, until Twitter stomped on it.
This isn’t going away.
I noticed there was a trending #TrumpBodyBags (or maybe #TrumpMassGraves, can’t remember).
Completely organic I’m sure.
Organic and ethically-sourced!
And much like leaving up a Chinese propaganda minister claiming the US Army created and spread the virus completely within Twitter’s terms of service.
Maybe there are a bunch of people like me, who have noticed that if criminals are really so endangered in prison, we are definitely going to need a few mass graves before this is over. And that frankly, murdering them in advance might be the better trade off.
Yeah, totally plausible that there are a bunch of people like me on twitter. Totes for sure.
You know, if minorities really are so much more impacted by this, rather than simply confounding with mass transit users, and the disease problem is severe enough, there comes a point when anti minority mass murder starts to look sensible.
We let criminals out of jail “so they don’t get Covid-19” , but if you go to church, they want to throw you in jail “to prevent Covid-19”.
Nice when the enemy makes themselves look utterly stupid and evil at the same time.
I cant be the only one that thinks of a certain Solzhenitsyn quote when I read of those events
Organic in the sense of “organic fertilizer” perhaps?
Although I think one thing those of us on this blog tend to forget is that this virus genuinely has people scared. I’ve seen reactions from people and read a number of pieces to the effect of “I’m more terrified than I was on 9/11, because at least then there were no terrorists inside my body.” It’s difficult to understand on an emotional level, but there seem to be a lot of people who believe that (a) leaving the house means that the coronavirus that has been hiding in your bushes will jump out and get you, and (b) getting the virus is an automatic death sentence.
If #EndTheLockdown is getting stomped, perhaps “Let My People Go” will work.
I don’t partake of their app, but is it possible they would be amenable to a phrase from the Declaration of Independence?
#Abuses&Usurpations for the win!
Funny, they have no problem with aiding rioters, antifa terrorists, or pedophiles…
The avalanche has already started; It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
I know, Kosh was saying something different, but the gathering unstoppable momentum part is apt.
“The avalance has begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.”
Our avalanche hasn’t quite begun, but the pebbles are skittering down the slope in worrying numbers.
What’s at the bottom of the slope?
“…death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth.”
As a totally random observation, I used to run the board for a talk radio station once a week. There was one point when a usual programming slot had expired and they hadn’t re-sold it yet, so we ran the Best of Rush re-cap.
When you’re a radio board op, you don’t usually listen to recorded programs except for commercial cues and such, so I can’t really tell you what he said, but you also listen to the commercial breaks “in cue” (not over the air) so that you don’t miss the reintroduction. And some person creating this decided that the bottom of the hour (where news and commercials go at about :30 after) needed to be filled with repeats of the UHF “commercial” “Spatula City.”
Yay Weird Al.
Rush has been using that one and Barnacle Brothers for decades.
To quote another of my heroes on respectability, “I don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.”
I listened to Rush pretty regularly (arranged lunch and such around it, had headphones at work, made sure I had reception or could stream, etc) from the time I left the Navy for university, 1995, until only a few years ago. Now I’ll still listen, but the energy to arrange it and, to be honest, to listen some days is better used elsewhere. That’s not a complaint on Rush. It’s just a reflection of change in me.
The odd thing is that slow decline in regular listening corresponds to being active on Instapundit and thus finding our gracious hostess and posting here (the 2013 shutdown when people thought I was a black opts for encouraging conservatives, especially conservative office holders to leave the GOP to form a third party as their GOP forefathers did leaving the Whigs to form the GOP…even suggested we call the new party Whigs).
I keep quieter than I used to at work because the “you’re crazy if you’re not screaming Orange Man bad” has ramped up on my team. In fact, politics is used as an example in our workplace training, but I don’t trust my complaints would be heard much less not retaliated against (if someone complained about my listening to Rush, though, I suspect it would be the end of my job). That is one reason why indie has interested me as a “retirement career” if I can get the writing skills and discipline up. I won’t be respectable, but I won’t have to worry about not being respectable so much.
So, congrats Sarah, on being read by Rush. And while he may have inspired your courage, know you’ve inspired at least one person to courage in some ways and career wise as well (along with your colleagues at Mad Genius Club).
“I keep quieter than I used to at work because the “you’re crazy if you’re not screaming Orange Man bad” has ramped up on my team.”
They’re getting very loud, aren’t they?
Lately I’ve taken to saying “Hydroxychloroquine” to the #OrangeManBad types, because I’m that tired of their bullshit (and my job is not at risk, that’s a big deal there). Even in Canada they shut up, because at this point most of them know somebody whose life got saved by Hydroxychloroquine.
And we all know that it wouldn’t be out there for us if Trump hadn’t said something about it. The media would have buried it.
The leftist fascination with modeling human behavior and ignoring how their models fail their own qualifications dates to at least, at least, Asimov and the first Foundation novels. Paul Krugman even cites it as the inspiration to become an economist; he wanted to be a psychohistorian (I often wonder if that was a subtle joke by Asimov).
If you remember, one of Seldon’s key requirements was the population being observed and modeled not know the modeling was being done. Yet, every Seldon Crisis after the first saw people waiting for old Harry to pop up in his chamber on Terminus. At least once characters remark they didn’t act because they knew it was a Seldon crisis and they shouldn’t act until they had no choice. The moment the holograph of Seldon appeared in the chamber on Terminus is the moment the plan failed, not the Mule. In fact, various parties failed to act against the Mule because they knew it was a Seldon Crisis and they should not act until they had no choice.
Of all the science fiction predictions to come to past that elites would submit to models they should know are de facto broken instead of acting as best they can is the one we could have done without.
But you must believe the models! They were made by computers, which are magic and infallible! And they are believed by the experts, who are smarter than you are! Believe!
As someone who programs the models and who, because I’m in banking running overnights instead of climatology predicting three decades after I die, has to understand their usefulness and their limitations, no.
I’m one of the experts.
Too much modelling these days derives from the basic principle of magicians’ card tricks: the result is pre-programmed and the bells and whistles serve merely to distract you from how your choice is being forced.
You don’t need to tell me. On occasion we have to push back against management on that. If you write a spreadsheet until it puts out the numbers they want they think it’s “science” and therefore they are right.
which is exactly how their climate models work.
Yep. Model is only as good as its validation.
I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile, you will be approximated.
Ah, the FDIV bug. Intel Inside: Don’t Divide!
Binary Coded Decimal for the win!
– TRX (old timer)
“Do the math!”
“Okay, how do I do that?”
“You use these formulas.”
“Where did the formulas come from?”
[outrage] “They’re THE MATH! Why are you asking that?”
“I’m just pointing out that the identical formulas are in my 1939 Marks’ Mechanical Engineers’ Handbook and labeled ‘average of industry practice’, which just means ‘rule of thumb.'”
“But it’s MATH!”
I get the same reactions when I question the “algorithms” used in modeling software. No matter how risible the results of their “models” may be.
Never, never try to look behind the curtain…
“Three things are most perilous:
Connectors that corrode,
And self-modifying code!”
Great. Thanks for the ear-worm, Orvan.
I didn’t quote Rectal Thermometer. }:o)
You MUST perform the ritual incantations perfectly or the ju-ju will not work!
Failure to believe in the working of the incantations will cause the rituals to be ineffective!
The line between Science and Superstition is sometimes very fine, often noticeable only when the experiment fails and the troubleshooting begins.
That fine line between Science and Superstition is also know by practitioners as Engineering.
Add black magic into that too
Engineering is Science that works for a living.
As best as I can tell, science and engineering are very different animals. It is just that is cheap to have a formal training process for engineers that also gives them some of a scientist’s formal training. So a lot of engineers are comorbid.
Absent the pace of innovation, engineering could be done with much less awareness of scientific results and processes. Of course, absent the pace of innovation, there would probably be much less economic utility for engineers, and fewer of them.
Engineers tend to link scientists to reality.
Science and Engineering are very different animals. Science seeks explanations for things. Engineers just want to make some cool stuff. Engineers have to understand enough about how the universe works to manipulate it, so they’re always inventing models (and, as we all know, all models are wrong, but some models are useful) that are kinda like the laws of nature invented by scientists, but which are more useful for inventing cool stuff.
That’s not to say that engineers don’t make discoveries. My favorite one of these is the answer to the question: How do you make tungsten wire? Everyone knows that an incandescent light bulb has a tungsten filament in it, but few people appreciate that tungsten isn’t ductile enough to make wire with the same way you make wire from copper or aluminum. Figuring out how to make a tungsten wire so you could put it in a light bulb was a major part of the invention of the incandescent light.
My brother-in-law gets annoyed at all the mad scientists in fiction who are, in reality, mad ENGINEERS. Do they have a theory to blow up the moon? No, they want to actually do it!
Terry Pratchett observed that the engineers at the nuclear plant where he handed PR were not willing to actually deny that the pixie had caused the problem that shut it down.
They knew about Murphy. They weren’t going to offend the pixie.
The gold standard in modeling is you give me the code, the assumptions, and the data. If you refuse you aren’t worth listening to.
And yes, even if I’m not an expert in $FOO, I am an expert in programming and data scrubbing/formatting/cleaning/setup/whatever term would fit. Even if I accept your equations at face value, I’ll find where you implemented them wrong or glossed over missing data/excluded inconvenient data.
Thus the complaint/warning that “Garbage In – Garbage Out” is NOT the worst thing, as far worse is “Garbage In – Gospel Out.”
I am amazed at how that phrase seems to have disappeared over the past two decades just as we gave computers orders of magnitude more pretense in our society.
Skynet might already be up and running.
I remember Kruger’s saying that. I found it very revealing. I always rather identified with the Mule.
One believe the models until the first time they blow up on you and you get fired. Academics don’t get fired so they never learn
Well, in fairness to Asimov, iirc it’s noted in the Mule story that the Foundation hadn’t bothered to watch the Seldon holograms during the previous two or three crises, and the only reason anyone knew about them was because someone hacked the software that controlled the holograms and found the scheduled appearences. That’s also how the leadership found out about the upcoming hologram appearence.
Plus, the Mule was probably quietly encouraging the “do-nothing” behavior. He was definitely in a position to do so.
Perhaps, but my understanding is even knowing the holograms existed, ie that Seldon had a plan, which was hidden from everyone on Terminus during the library period, would invalidate the Plan.
Note, I didn’t think of this until this century despite loving the stories (well, the first two books, three and on were not as good) since the 70s. When I do sci-fi RPGs the first book is still a go to inspiration.
I just also see the problem which is multiplied to a huge degree in the real world. Given Seldon’s rule on that and the huge numbers he required, another issue with Foundation, were arguably designed to make sure he was dealing with at least uniformly curved cows even if they were spherical.
I’m a minor Asimov fan, but not of the Foundation books. Too much like “predestination” for me to take.
I still think their popularity was due to them being promoted by the kind of people who got wet underwear at the thought of “social engineering.”
I always had a soft spot for the mule.
Never really cared for Asimov.
There’s reasons to feel sorry for the Mule but…
There wasn’t that much difference between his plans (control the galaxy) and the Second Foundation’s plans (control the galaxy).
The major difference was he was one person and his control over the galaxy would end with his death.
The Second Foundation was an organization thus its control would last more than one person’s lifespan.
I know., but his motivation was honest — hatred and rage — as opposed to that BS do gooder what’s best for humanity.stuff. I think that all the good people, like Krugman, wanted to be Selden and I wanted Selden to fail. It’s a “tell” . Knowing what’s best for people has been the cause of more death than just about anything.
Like I said, I never liked Asimov and the futurians generally. Too commie for me.
The Mule was the good guy/hero.
Controlling people’s minds makes you automatically an evil villain.
no, it wasnt a subtle joke. He was a technocrat.
The most hilarious thing about Suzy Safespace is her pose of being a big bad rebel against the Etablishment.
As MomRed has been known to observe, “A Rebel with out a Clue.”
I’m always reminded of the jeune rab in Cherryh’s “Heavy Time”…
Once a counterculture is around a while, it either becomes part of the common culture or is abandoned.
Can a genre writer ever be deemed to have been respectable?
Well, okay – can a right-wing genre writer ever be deemed to have been respectable?
Can you lose what you haven’t had? Stay deplorable, dear: that’s part of what we love about you.
Besides, as the bumper-sticker so often reminds us: Well-behaved Women Seldom Make History.
They mean *their* badly-behaved women.
I mean, the men who make history are seldom, if ever, well behaved either.
Yeah – I hates that bumper sticker nearly as much as visualizing world peace. Napoleon made history, Hitler made history, Stalin and Mao made history. Sometimes it seems the problem in this world is an excess of history having been made.
And contra the Wokezis, “erasing” undesired history never works well.
My response to that is “happy are those who are unknown to the annals of history.”
One thing I’ve found really depressing about the current panic is how susceptible people in power are to screams from the media that they too must shutdown their states/cities/whatever, or else they’ll be responsible for every death. As far as I can see we’re still getting more deaths from flu, and have probably *saved* more people from dying from the flu than we’ve saved from dying from covid19. The “social pressure” of the media has been dismayingly successful.
SCORE! (Ditto) SCORE! You’re now a nationally-recognized deplorable Thought Leader. “Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon ’em.”
Thrust. Like, the opportunity to wash diapers was thrust upon me. As recounted in one of Abraham Lincoln’s anecdotes: Upon being tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail, the gentleman was reputed to have said: “If it wasn’t for the honor of the thing, I would just as soon walk.” Let’s hope this unexpected honor gens up some book sales.
The problem is as a Thought Leader she becomes a TARGET. If something happens, the Progs will ask who are the LEADERS. They will think, like themselves, nothing is EVER Bottom up, always Top Down. So there HAS to be LEADERS running what ever is happening, so they will arrest all the “Leaders” they can find, and put them to the question, trying to find WHO is RUNNING the Show. They will NEVER believe the correct answer “NO ONE”. The end state is known, a return to the Constitution AS WRITTEN. Plan, Execute, STFU, Repeat. How ever long it takes.
Nonono. It is Hu running the show
Watt’s running the show?
No, What’s on second.
I don’t know.
He’s on third. We haven’t gotten to third yet.
and they’re standing around singing “how strange, how strange…”
Indeed – that was the thing about the Tea Party that turned the progs into knots. There really was no leader. (Although there were an assortment of a-holes who claimed to be Tea Party leaders.(It was a spontaneous, from the ground-up thing, mostly from people who had never, ever dabbled in politics before.) There were certain media people who gave it visibility, nation-wide, like Glen Beck – who gave the San Antonio Tea Party massive media exposure. But most of the Tea Party activists have quietly settled back into the obscurity that we came from. Only – now, we are paying rapt attention.
Weirdly enough – when the whole local Tea Party thing kicked off in early 2009 – I had never heard of Glen Beck. Some of the other committee members had heard of him, but I never had. I had him mixed up with someone else… and I thought – hey, cool, another rocker who is a stone conservative! Cool!
It was … an interesting experience, the local Tea Party in 2009-2010. Working the media for the San Antonio rally on Alamo Plaza was fun. And I only got involved because a blog-friend/fan thought – ‘Hey, she’s former AF public affairs – she can do our press releases!’.
First, congratulations on losing what little respectability you have remaining. Hopefully, Rush’s link will get lots of people to read your article, and at least some will be curious about this “Sarah Hoyt” woman and just what those 17 novels might contain…
I will say that my problem with Rush is very similar to my problem with Trump: yes, what they’re saying is (usually) right, but do they have to be so darn bombastic about it? I want to persuade everyone of the merits of a free society, not go around mocking its opponents as fat and ugly. However, I’m starting to suspect that the answer is, yes, they do have to be so bombastic. Rush gets a lot more people talking about something that Thomas Sowell, even though the latter is much more to my taste.
“Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”
I too wish Trump was somewhat less bombastic. That said, I do love to see that cow when the vet examines their back passage (mooo) look on their faces as they try to process what he said. In any case, unlike his predecessors, he gets things done.
I missed Rush in his early days, but I remember the first time I did listen. he was talking about Jocelyn Elders when she started pushing certain practices in the schools. he played my ding a ling. I almost put my car into a ditch.
I don’t drive much at the times he’s on the radio so I don’t really listen to his show, but I’ll never forget that.
Watching Trump’s Monday beat-down on the Press Corps I about cracked up when he got them to citing the 10th Amendment.
‘sFunny how they get all Originalist when a Republican is in office.
I know. I heard NY governor press conference today, or part of it. When he cited the Constitution 10th Amendment, my thought was “Wait! What? You mean the little piece of outdated paper actually means something? What???” (TBC sarcasm off now)
Which is why I admire him immensely, and was moved to tears seeing him receive the presidential medal of honor during the State of the Union.
That still boggles my mind, honestly.
Dude created an entire industry. A REALLY POPULAR one. Without him, I doubt podcasts would be “a thing,” Coast to Coast AM wouldn’t be as big as they are, etc.
And folks are complaining he got a medal that has been given to…um, folks who are famous celebrities for being famous?
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Before Rush and popular Talk Radio, there were many articles that could or did have the title, “What Will Save AM Radio?” Usually either not having any idea, or proposing some technical change (such as AM Stereo).
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! Rush read your words ALOUD. Uber Cool!
Also, Kim DuToit has her PICTURE on his website.
Yay! First Glenn, and now even bigger exposure. You ROCK !
Uh. Thank you.
Allow me to give belated congragulations. Rush is the King Kong of the conservative media…and possibly the most perceptive observer of the American psyche since H.L Mencken. Or Heinlein.
And WRT computer models, those in use by these doctors are absolute trash. As in people should be turned over to Engineers…as crash test dummies.
What I’m seeing is that they are trying to feed new data into the old math model…instead of taking the data, which is the nearest thing we have to ground truth, and fitting a curve TO the data. Then derive the coefficients. And there are people in the aerospace industry (mostly the folks specializing in refining flight simulators) who know how to do this with exquisite precision.
What was that poem about “it’s hard by fallen” Heinlein once quoted. I think it was in Time Enough for Love but I can’t get to it to research right now. Let’s just say the subject suffered wonderfully.
I am going to add a little bit of emphasis here … embedded links in the original:
A Quick COVID Research Roundup
A few items of note, mostly from the new batch of work put out through the National Bureau of Economic Research:
There’s an Australian paper from April 8 that’s making the rounds thanks to a boost from Tyler Cowen. Basically, it looks at the death predictions made by the University of Washington coronavirus model, compares them with what actually happened, and finds them wanting. It focuses on the state-level predictions for dates through April 2, so it doesn’t reflect the big revisions made to the model in the past week or so, but what’s striking is that most of the death totals wound up outside the uncertainty intervals the model provides. (When your 95 percent interval includes the correct number only 30 percent of the time, that’s kind of a problem.) The paper does not find that the predictions were consistently off in a specific direction, notably, but this certainly gives policymakers another reason to be skeptical of the model. As I wrote before, look at what it says and take it into consideration, but also consider other evidence and bear in mind that no one really knows what’s going to happen.
The New England Journal of Medicine has a fascinating finding from a New York hospital that tested 214 women giving birth: 33 tested positive (about 15 percent), of whom only seven showed or developed symptoms. Others might yet develop symptoms, there might be some false positives in there, and this isn’t exactly a random sample of New Yorkers, but this is at least suggestive evidence of a lot of asymptomatic cases that usually escape detection.
A survey finds that “43 percent of [small] businesses are temporarily closed, and businesses have — on average — reduced their employee counts by 40 percent relative to January.” These businesses are economically fragile, have no idea how long all this will last, and hope they can get relief funds.
One study arrives at a “conservative” estimate of “a cumulative loss in industrial production of 12.75% and in service sector employment of nearly 17% or 24 million jobs over a period of ten months.”
Another: “Our illustrative exercise implies a year-on-year contraction in U.S. real GDP of nearly 11 percent as of 2020 Q4, with a 90 percent confidence interval extending to a nearly 20 percent contraction.”
With existing data, it’s really hard to estimate the disease’s fatality rate.
Obvious issue– author is conflating/promoting studies that conflate lockdowns with forced business closings.
Iowa still does not have a lockdown.
The first round of forced closings was March 17th.
Also, the study linked there that says stay-at-home orders worked has this gem right in the summary:
Mean county-level daily growth in COVID-19 infections peaked at 17.2% just before stay-at-home orders were issued.
To hang a lampshade on, right there in the summary it says THE PEAK WAS REACHED BEFORE LOCKDOWN.
It should’ve taken a minimum of 5 days for there to be any result in growth, because lockdowns work via people not getting infected, and it takes at least that long before you can find out you’re infected.
“To hang a lampshade on, right there in the summary it says THE PEAK WAS REACHED BEFORE LOCKDOWN.”
We ought be clear here: this does not prove lock-downs ineffective, it merely fails to prove a lock-down was effective. For example, there’s no reason to assume the peak reached would have remained the peak in the absence of a lock-down; it is possible to envision an infection rate curve that is not a simple arch but one proceeding in a series of ever higher peaks and lower valleys.
Just as there is no evidence supporting an assertion the lock-down was effective, the absence of subsequent rises in infections does not prove the lock-down ineffective.
Of course, as NONE of the examples I elected to include addressed the lock-down effectiveness one might perhaps have concluded I found them unworthy of mention — even the compiler of these studies employed the modifier “lockdown orders seem to work”, which seems a step short of endorsement. I am always leery of conclusions employing such phrases as “might have reduced … and might have helped” — as I might> have waggled my ears and flown around the planet.
The fact that there are efforts to quantify economic effects should be reassuring, as should the disdain expressed over the confidence levels being asserted.
“State lockdown orders seem to work, according to a study that basically compares the timing of the orders with later patterns in COVID-19 growth rates.”
*go look at study*
Study says they stopped growing before the lockdowns.
No, it wasn’t one of the examples you cited.
It is, however, enough to make me question guy’s ability to accurately summarize what he chose to link, as well as look harder at his choice pattern.
So I look at another checkable study for lockdown, where it claims that there was an economic downturn before the lockdowns– and sets the start date after various states were shutting down businesses.
Gosh. Forced closings makes for an economic hit, even if people are allowed out of their house without a permission slip.
These are for the things where I have enough knowledge– via spending a few minutes looking, when I’m not a paid reporter, like the author– to find out if it’s blowing smoke.
He didn’t do that.
I’m definitely not going to trust him on stuff I don’t know how to check.
Some folks here have the information for other things he linked– they still need to know that the guy isn’t doing reporting, he’s link-dumping.
There was a sale on “French Polished Murder”.
I like the way you word.
49.999% of Americans’ have below average IQ. Sadly most of our elected officials seem to be selected from that group.
Ox often wonder. Ox know ox slow. Get there, yes, but takes time.
Ox slow, but on left side?
Ox slow, but average?
Ox slow, but just not THAT slow?
Ox slow, but on whole ‘nother axis?
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