Safe Niches

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As most of you know, I like dinosaurs.  It could be said that I never outgrew my love of dinosaurs.  Possibly because there were no Natural History Museums around when I grew up.

If I’ve been particularly good, my reward is to go to the Natural History Museum and walk through the area with dinos.  If I have caught up on books by then, I would like to celebrate my birthday by going to the museum and drawing both the skeletons and dinosaurs. We’ll see.

At one time we went to see the dinosaurs of Gondwanaland and those were fascinating. Since they lived in real niche environments and were very well adapted to them, some of them in ways that made them look truly ridiculous.

Of course it is sort of the same thing with the marsupials in Australia. They were well adapted to their niche with other marsupials, but completely helpless when meeting placental mammals.

Perhaps it is because of this that recently I’ve been thinking the problem with the democrats is that they were much too well adapted to an evolutionary niche which is changing at a fast pace.

Bear with me.

By virtue of the long march, the liberals, by the time I was born and possibly before, had a unique set of protections that meant it was never, ever, ever in the wrong, no matter what.

Because they controlled the entire entertainment/information/news complex, they were sure that things that happened wouldn’t actually be reported if they impacted them badly, while things that might be in their favor were reported whether they happened or not.

It was so floridly insane that JFK being killed by a communist was attributed to the right and the “climate of hate.”

It was so crazy that the left convinced half the country that the parties switched sides on race.

It was so batsh*t divorced from reality that despite the fact that most of the wars we got into were started by democrats, it is the republicans who are viewed as ‘war mongers.’  That, despite the fact that the Democrats command all positions of power and wealth they’ve convinced people it is the Republicans who favor the wealthy. Etc. etc. etc.

Heck, if you add historians to the act — and they’re definitely part of the left information complex — we have the spectacle of our founding fathers being denigrated as uniquely evil for failings that were common to pretty much everyone in their time (and at which they failed less than others.)  Then there is the fact that FDR, the hero president of the left, for decades credited with combating the Great Depression, probably caused it.

But the left had all these …. coverup resources, which meant that their malfeasance was never actually reported.

So what is the downside of that?

The same as with any other organism hyper-adapted to its current conditions.

If you don’t have to be careful and watch for predators or those who might want to take you down, at some point you forget how.

Note that as we pointed out here not so long ago, even with the internet, we still have nowhere near the command of information the left has. As much as they’re slipping, they still command the heights. If they were even minimally honest and/or competent, we’d be in some serious trouble.

But they aren’t.

Why aren’t they? Because they never had to be. Because the new generations who climbed to power knew they could do whatever they wanted and have time leftover (as grandma would say) without it causing any problems for their career.  Eventually they developed this mythology (probably around the time that Clinton got caught diddling interns and everyone made excuses for it) that if you support the right causes, you’re a good person, despite everything you might do around that “support.”

And look, even with Clinton, there were signs that things were changing. Mostly, we’d developed talk radio and a couple of blogs.  And that was enough to spread the tale of the blue dress so the public heard about it.  No, seriously, we now know JFK had at least as many bimbo issues, but no one ever heard of them, and instead what you saw was the image of the perfect first family.

There are other things.  Blogs took down not only Dan Rather but the bizarre deception he’d concocted which otherwise might have given up president Jean Francois Kerry (Quod Avertat Deus! Like Hillary, in less mannish pants!)

And we’re getting bigger and better.  Honestly, 2016 and Trump’s surprise win is something I’d been anticipating for a while. The point at which we can flip an election despite the media pushing all the other way.

Doesn’t mean we’ll beat the margin of fraud every time, but it means we’re that big.

Look, guys, we understand them better than they understand us, because we live surrounded by their signal.  We’ve even learned to fake being them, so we can thrive.  And btw, that has to be giving them cold sweats. We’re seeing some witch hunts already here and there. They have to guess that amid those who seem the most loyal there are “infiltrators” who just decided the masquerade was worth it. (And there are, at least, I know for a fact, in SF/F writing.)

And we are usually better at whatever it is we do for a living, because we didn’t get any slack cut to us for “correct political opinions.”  (They might not know that, but it is still an advantage on our side. A big one.)

More importantly NO ONE on the right ever got that dirty or that sloppy.  We couldn’t, because the information complex was actively looking at us for that spec of dust in our eyes.

But the left? Oh, dear, the left. Beam? They have entire super stadiums in their eyes. President can’t keep it in my pants Clinton?  Joe “I blackmailed the Ukraine to get my doper son a job?”  Completely run of the mill.  I bet you there are far worse examples of corruption, waste and cheer insanity.  (And I mean besides Occasional Cortex or what’s her name the Representative with too many husbands, one of which is her husband and the probable immigration fraud?)

They were secure not because they were competent and clean, but because they could count on all their misdeeds being hidden.

I know you’re furious these people aren’t being dragged into jail, but guys — you only know they deserve it because we’re already winning. We’re already clawing back some of the functions they had completely controlled.

And they really aren’t ready for it. Which is why you see the bizarre insanity of an impeachment attempt in which no one has to vote for it. Because they’re scared.

They’re marsupials who just met their first placental mammal.

Or if you prefer, they’re dinosaurs, completely adapted to their place and climate, and there’s this fiery ball in the sky that keeps getting bigger and bigger.

But these dinosaurs know what comes next.

Be not afraid. Do not minimize the gains we’ve already made.  Yes, there will be loses, but they will never have full control again.

Which means their environment has changed and they’ll never be as secure/thrive as well.

Ride right through them. They’re demoralized as hell.

In the end we in they lose.  Do not lose your head, and keep pushing.

322 responses to “Safe Niches

  1. *blink*

    You know, all of that crazy purity-hunting, take down your own stuff does make sense in terms of there being actual witches, so to speak.

    Just, their targeting is terrible.

    • They burn a new witch every week.

      • Ellen is the latest they are stacking the faggots up for (any leftoids reading faggots are bundles of sticks for burning witches)
        For the crime of being nice to GWB

        • It will be interesting to see what she does. In the end our society might be saved by black men and gay women.

          • She already scolded them rather well. we shall see if they continue the attack, because I think she is more likely to be another Paul Rodriguez than back down if her brother or what I’ve heard of her is an indicator.

        • As I’ve seen pointed out many places, you don’t see any of the religious right condemning GWB for being friends with Ellen.

          It’s like they’re not the haters or something.

          • I’m sure there are some, but the right tends to ignore them, or point and laugh, not let them drive everyone’s narrative.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            Well, being friends with a presumed Democrat might be evidence of being a squish, and he is critiqued for that.

            • Maybe, but it is well know Scalia’s was close friends with RBG and no one accused him of being a squish.

              Bush is called a squish because he was one and was called that long before the Ellen thing.

            • Better example is Dick Cheney, attacked for not opposing gay rights by …the left, because of failure to confirm to their straw man, or something.

              • Huh – I missed that little bit of insanity.

                • The Proggies have been so batshit since 2000 that it’s damn hard to keep up with it. They REALLY didn’t like failing to steal the election from Bush. Ever since, it’s been like they’re smoking locoweed; progressive neurological damage making them act increasingly nuts.

                  I read some Of how they calmed down under Obumbles, but they really didn’t. They gathered a lot of steam, it just wasn’t reported much by their propaganda organs. Then they were all set for Granny Maojackets von Pantsuit to ascend the throne vacated by the Lightbringer, and Trump happened.

                  It would be funny if they weren’t clearly headed for some kind of National spasm, which may get really messy.

        • Ask one of those criticizing Ellen how they felt about Saint RBG being actual friends with Scalia.

          • That’s different because RBG had to work with Scalia, so playing his friend was just a clever ploy to get inside his guard and influence his opinions.

        • For the crime of being nice to GWB

          Who happened to have seats near hers at an NFL game.

          Who apparently is far worse than Assad, Chavez, Castro, Arafat or the plethora of other Left-wing murderers that they were happy to invite to their festivities.

          • They can’t afford to admit, especially to themselves, that they have been cheerleading for mass murderers for a century. Their tiny minds can’t take it.

            • I rather get the impression, quite honestly, that they don’t condemn the mass murderers because (as displayed by Antifa), give these guys a chance and they’ll happily outdo Mao in body count, copy China’s social credit system and make it literal orders of magnitude worse.

              • There was a commenter, probably fake conservative or SJWrong at Pjmedia, that seemed to be defending Trum by talking about the “ratio”. I asked what this ratio argument was. THey said the ratio of likes on your comments to the total number of comments. Obviously the ratio means Pjmedia thinks you are trash and worthless; blocked.

                Social credit? Trum supporters may be ok with that, if it benefits them.

                They started in 2016-17 where “likes” was a thing. If I got “liked” too often talking about Hussein and Treason Flag State in 2007.. I would be a Red Smear on some pavement by now cause it would be a “Red Flag”.

                • Looking at the ratio of comments to likes is a good way to identify someone who’s just trolling– although there’s also at least one guy who made a second account to ‘like’ every one of his comments, resulting in a perfect record. (I got curious what on earth was keeping someone sitting there clicking ‘like’ on random comments and noticed that it was all the same guy.)

                  Sort of like how looking at their profile can let you see if they’re serious or not.

                  Of course, those who say things that are true but go against the group are going to have a lower number of comments that were liked vs total comments, and there are a lot of trolls who will use the comment history to chase after you and act like a psychopath.

                  The problem with “social credit” isn’t that there’s standards and rules of thumb used to make social judgments, it’s that they’re trying to turn something that exists naturally into yet another tool in their hand.

                • Anyone with a brain doesn’t just look at the likes; they look at the comment itself and how people are responding to it. I’m more likely to respond to someone who I’m actually going to have a discussion with, even if I might be disagreeing with them about this and that.

                  The person you mention probably was a fake conservative. The regulars I see over at PJM are more attentive than that.

          • no, see those friends of theirs are fellow travelers with a few ultra super minor peccadilloes

      • If we’re going to have a Ball of Fire, I prefer Krupa’s:

      • Christopher M. Chupik

        And then invent new ones to keep it going.

    • Targeting on both sides is terrible.

      • Our side targets anyone but its own?

        • Just enough for the lie that they don’t just execute their own can be “falsified”

        • I wish. No. Ask me how often I’m called a communist….

          • That has to be ironic…no really…you, a communist?

            Hell, might as well call me asexual.

            • BobtheRegisterredFool

              Consider just the times I’ve argued that she or Larry is left. Which, given the strong case that neither is further to the left than center right, is a joke, and one well past any actual amusement value.

              The left defines the right in terms of apostasy, and their version of The Adversary. At the strictest, this puts all but maybe a narrow slice of humanity on the right. It isn’t any sort of clear, coherent definition of right.

              Well, over on the right side there isn’t a single clear narrow definition of conservative. Imagine a banjo orchestra doing a symphony long version of dueling banjos.

              Given that muddled state, and given communist history and habits, it isn’t at all surprising that someone who doesn’t want to be a communist isn’t going to have a reliable IFF.

              Forex, Sarah doesn’t wish to kill all homosexuals. Well, there doesn’t seem to have ever been a real historical constituency for killing all homosexuals. But the commies say there was, playing some very silly games in the process. So, is it communist not to want to kill all homosexuals?

              Forex, I’ve felt my way into a (quite mad) foreign policy framework that reasons that the firmest grounds to resist pressure to form and participate in international treaties is to start from the position that the other populations should be killed if it is in America’s interest to do so. If we reject multiculturalism, we can freely say that this or that treaty is foreign to the mores of the American people, and we will not participate. If we do not reject multiculturalism, we cannot reject mass murder without a culturally or religiously biased system of making the decision. Taking mass murder as a starting option forces people to admit that they are making their decisions on a basis of religious or cultural mores, or shows that they are bankrupt and not willing to deal. Well, this is a hyper-politicized way of framing the issue, and probably fairly collectivist thinking or feeling. Does that make me a communist? Does disagreeing with me make someone a communist?

              • Or “Statist Josh” who used to comment here more often. He’s closer to anarcho-syndicalist-free-market-Don’t-Tread-On-Me, but someone skimming until offended decided that he was a fascio-Communist. So he got nicknamed “Statist Josh.” Leading to no end of giggles when drive-up trolls tried to get him to support their pro-statist arguments…

              • “Well, there doesn’t seem to have ever been a real historical constituency for killing all homosexuals.”
                Other than those areas under Sharia law of course.
                Estimated 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, how many are strict adherents to Sharia is up for debate, though some interpretations of the Koran would suggest all of them.

              • It isn’t any sort of clear, coherent definition of right.

                In fairness, the Left does not seem to offer a “clear, coherent definition of” anything or anybody.

                It is almost as if coherent thought is alien to their basic* thought processes.

                *or any other computer language you want to credit for their thought processes.

            • People have called MadMike a commie so….

            • Sadly, I’ve seen it, and the context indicated they were serious, or else REALLY bad at delivering irony.

          • I’d arm-wrestle you over “least Communist” … but I get called one often enough. Because I’ve actually read the Manifesto and other works, and can quote at length from some of them.

            You see, if you *know* anything about the enemy, you must sympathize with their cause, and only abject ignorance is truth. Or something like that. I’m afraid their reasoning is beyond my ken.

      • I found a few things the Left and anti Left agrees on.

        Moon landing religion.

        NASA

        Space

        Geoscience about the Earth (other than weather, that is a different issue).

        I watched what happened when a conservative said he was a flat earther at Bookworm Blog. The audience’s reaction was about as logical as SJWrong protesting Milo for being not homo enough to be a Catholic Alt Right.

        • No you haven’t. I’m not actually sure what your definition of left is, but the leftists I know are all FEFERS “Fix the Earth First.”
          As for flat Earth, dear sir, anyone with basic geometric knowledge knows that’s full of sh*t.

        • I’m going to put it simply

          wtf are you talkign about with ‘moon landing religion’

    • And may it continue to be so.

    • I’d have thought “Looking for Christians to feed the lions” would be your preferred analogy.

      • Nah, Christians actually DID something, even if it didn’t result in what they thought— they thought that denying the local (even if “local” was continent plus sized) spirits would piss them off, and Christians DID deny the local spirits.

        These guys are on a whole different level.

        • Rome had an official State Cult and any kind of christian or jew was outside of that cult. So long as they recognize Caesar as God though and Lord, everything was okay.

          The shift turned when Constantine decided to make Christianity into the official State Cult, with all the perks and privileges it would provide. That would be like trying to fight Hollywood by giving ALex Jones all the same pedo ring parties and promotions Hollywood gets, and just shift it over to Infowars people.

          It wouldn’t… work in the long run. Funny as heck maybe in the short term.

          When the State Cult became Christians, what did all the human sacrificers and abortionists do? Why they became Baptized! Haha.

          And the ones that didn’t agree with Constantine, that had the Holy Spirit and refused the Christian State patronage and unauthorized Ecumenical Councils? Well, welcome to Holy War Crusade.

  2. One of our strongest strategies is simply to shine the light of truth on their falsehoods. We can speak out – quietly and reasonably (no strident voices!) -when we overhear them pushing some chosen meme. Saying ‘that ain’t so’ and pushing the facts completely derails their thoughts. They’ll rush in like white blood cells against an infection, but this unrestrained cell growth is creating a different organism. One they can’t defeat.
    Pretty soon they’ll have to change their entire viewpoint. And we need to be there to direct it.

  3. …what’s her name the Representative with too many husbands…

    Oh, Ill-mannered Omar, the Minneapolis Mountebank?

  4. In one sense (not in applied-justice), it may be better that these exposed malefactors are not being dragged off to jail – this arouses the sense of injustice that may help to motivate us. If there were a few here and there taken off (trumpeted in the media) and given a slap on the wrist (reportedly exaggerated as hideous suffering by a repentant victim of circumstance) and then quietly pardoned (completely ignored/covered up), I think it likely that many of us would still be asleep . . . . I can say (blamefully) that I am not a morning person, I prefer to sleep in.

    • They don’t get dragged off to jail even when they do something blatant enough to make their fellow lefties turn on them. About five years ago Bob ‘Weasel Boy’ Filner was convicted of sexually harassing more than a dozen different women. The trial, Filner’s legal fees, and compensation to the women totaled about a million dollars. All paid for by the city, which is to say, by US.

      Filner’s sentence? Expelled from the Mayor’s office and almost two years probation. Oh, the agony.

      Anybody leaning the least bit to the right would have gotten ten years in prison.
      ———————————
      Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

  5. Most people are lazy. They get their ‘news’ from the free boob-tube and prefer not to think about it too hard. They believed their parents about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. They believed their preacher about hairy palms and going crazy, and they believed their teachers about being responsible for what their classmates did even though they couldn’t pick them or leave. It takes a LOT of evidence smacking them square in the face to make them disbelieve. Even worse if it means they might have to get off their butt and do something.

    • > get their ‘news’ from the free boob-tube a

      Something I’ve just recently noticed… I haven’t seen anyone in meatspace watch “the news” in *years*. Like, maybe back to the 20th century.

      They might look at an infotainment show like CNN on one of the ubiquitous TVs in restaurants or waiting rooms, or they might leave a talk show on while doing something else, but as far as actually sitting down to watch the news… that doesn’t seem to be a thing any more.

      I expect their viewing figures are much worse than they claim. Even with phone beacons, all they can tell is that the phone is in the vicinity of a blat-box tuned to that channel; it can’t tell if anyone is actually watching it.

      • $SPOUSE watches the local (regional, actually) news and Tucker Carlson in the evenings, but she’s been long disabused of the notion that MSM had any bias other than towards the hard left.

        Victory Girls had a column a short while ago lamenting: “Trump has lost Drudge. Must be something wrong with Trump.”, but then it came out that Drudge dropped his old ad agency for one tied to a Google type. I’d seen the leftward tilt and the increasing growth of Doom for Bad Orange Man stories. Finally got sick of it and dropped the bookmark.

        FWIW, Insty links to a Don Surber post on VRWC (ie, not from the DNC) news sites:

        https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/10/post-drudge-conservative-news.html

        • As I put it on Insty about Drudge: he is and always was a celebrity gossip site who dabbled in politics when it had the frission of celebrity. Celebrity gossip sheets are always about gossip, the less substantiated the better.

          Trump is the actual joining of celebrity and politics so scandal sheets are treating him just like they would another Liz Taylor marriage or Margo Kitter in the bushes.

          Why should Drudge be any different?

      • I watched the news all the time when I was a kid. I realize this was somewhat unusual but you know… it was only half an hour, hour at most.

        I remember with stark clarity when the “international” portion of the half hour news cast came on and the guy in the horn rimmed glasses said, “The news tonight is that there is no news…”

        Can you even imagine?

        • When I was in high school I made a girl cry. Okay, more than once, and I’m not proud of that at all. But in this instance, a young lady exchange student from Turkey came to visit with our class. During the question-and-answer part of the address, there were the usual inquiries along the lines of ‘do you have any pets’ and ‘how many siblings do you have’. Well, at the time Turkey was having one of their (at the time fairly frequent) military coups so Bob asked, “Is your family alright? Have you heard anything from them?” The poor thing broke down in tears. Turned out she hadn’t heard from anyone and didn’t know if her minor government functionary father and the rest of her family were okay.

          I was such a nerd . . .

      • I haven’t seen anyone in meatspace watch “the news” in *years*. Like, maybe back to the 20th century.

        Well, my 96 year old mother still watches MSM national news and 60 Minutes, but your point is valid.

      • There *must* be a way to get airports and restaurants to stop showing CNN. NOBODY seems to want it, it’s just visual and (increasingly rarely) auditory pollution, and if we got rid of it, that would just about be the end of CNN viewership.

        • Carry a universal remote with you.

        • Ever since 9/11 I have been triggered by CNN and it is especially bad in airports, so they need to switch to cat videos to alleviate the trauma.

          I’d put the over/under line at 95% of flight passengers having smart phones capable of providing all the news the traveler wants, so CNN is superfluous.

          I wonder how much CNN pays the airports too run their feed? I wonder what the market value of that audience might mount to. Are airports being responsible managers of public fisc or are they squandering potential revenues?

        • I’ve seen more and more restaurants going to HLN instead, and that isn’t news any more. just crime shows. I guess they still get the CNN Payola that way.

      • Technology has gotten rid of the tubes… alas, the receiving sets still show the boobs (and I do not mammaries… this time).

        • Hmmm, boob channel in airports.

          I mean, I don’t need nakeness, but bikini girls with machines guns would be great.

          All but one of my doctors’ offices have gone from CNN to HGN.

          • The hospital lab waiting room has Expedition Unknown in one corner. Have I mentioned that we’re a conservative county? The dentist office used to have either CNN or MSLSD on, but now the default setting of “off”. One car dealership leaves the remote for anybody to use. It’s usually something innocuous, like a game show. I bring my Kindle.

            West of the Cascades, the retina specialist has DVDs on the monitors. Anything from old movies (It’s a Wonderful Life, Mary Poppins), old TV (I Dream of Jeannie marathon one day) or various nature shows. The clientele tends to be older, which probably guides the selection.

            • I’ve gotten really good results walking up with my horde of children, and politely asking if they could turn on something like the science channel.

              Maybe because they’re so happy to not be subjected to the incessant Disney live-action sitcoms, I usually get something like it. ^.^

            • My dentist…I’m not sure what they have in the waiting room, but they have full cable in the chair including overhead screen.

              Which is how while getting a filling and on gas I starting mapping the girls on the Facts of Life to the Four Man Band trope.

          • Something like John Wick Meets The Swedish Bikini Team?


            Soooooo insensitive.

        • As Bob Hope was wont to say, “Thanks for the mammaries.”

      • Timothy E. Harris

        I watch the almost exclusively local news channel from the cable company for weather/traffic and local events.
        I watch “The Five” because it’s entertaining and summarizes a lot of the talking points.
        Mainstream evening news? Never even crosses my mind anymore. It was still a ritual 30 tears ago…

        • When I visit $RELATIVE the morning news is on (the weather is the part worth watching – and I get that via web nowadays) and I find it ever more reminds me of Soviet era Radio Moscow. Maybe you don’t find an outright lie (but more often you do!) but the present version of the Truth is missing a good many pieces.

        • I have it on, muted, to see what the propaganda spin of the week is. Since I teach a civics class, I have to stay up with the MSM version of political news. Alas.

        • I cannot watch The FIve because I grind my teeth too much watching Juan Williams compelled to advocate from those Left-Wing talking points.

          I understand why they need somebody to spout those asinine arguments but why Juan? Both his sons have grown up to be well-spoken, thoughtful, articulate conservatives so it seems Juan Williams is a better father than he portrays on TV … and if it is their mother who gets credit for the boys’ good sense Juan should not be out embarrassing her this way.


          I don’t know the daughter’s politics but both Raffi (Raphael) Williams and Tony (Antonio) Williams are proud conservatives, the former serving as HUD Secretary Ben Carson’s press secretary and Tony having been a speech writer for former Senator Norm Coleman and currently serves as the Senior Director of Government and External Affairs for Comcast.

          • Working for Norm Coleman isn’t necessarily a sterling example of conservative cred. Before he came to MN and became a Republican, he was a New York Democrat. And in case my repugnance of him isn’t clear, ever since he lied to my face I haven’t trusted Coleman as far as I could throw him. (I know, a politician lying – why was I surprised?)

      • My dad still watches the (regional) news every evening, but he’s (good grief!) 67, and he needed to know the weather for his job every day when I was a kid in the 90s. Old habits.

      • I can’t remember when I stopped watching TV news, but then my memory isn’t what it never was…

    • “…and they believed their teachers about being responsible for what their classmates did even though they couldn’t pick them or leave.”

      That’s a good one. I’d forgotten that. We see that bandied about a great deal these days, the “social responsibility” bullshit. Might be nice to see a stake put through that particular vampire.

      • As I’ve mentioned it’s the same as “all men are responsible if one man rapes.” HOW? Seriously? Do we have some mind-link? Nobody told me.

        • Yet somehow all women are not responsible for pregnancy entrapment or false child support (including men paying child support to biologically intact families in a few occasions).

          • No. We’re accused of that too. It’s just that the press doesn’t amplify it. But I’ve been told “Well, if women didn’t treat men this way I wouldn’t be rude to you.” See “targeting” and bad.

            • I was referring to the popular culture and, especially, the courts and HR.

              I’m well aware of men who figure they should treat all women as the same as the nastiest woman they have dealt with.

              I will say, that is becoming more popular as a lagging indicator of the popular culture’s embrace of “all men are bad” feminism.

              There is a man-o-sphere “law” (I forget who it is named after) that the men and women of each generation deserve each other. I suspect it is closer to they deserve the opposite sex of the generation before them, but the idea is there.

              I also suspect it applies to other binaries such as political parties.

              • Problem being, it doesn’t “always” apply in courts, either– and hasn’t. I started checking down the folks I actually know, or am connected to, who went through the family court system.

                Those women who didn’t get burnt? That’d be the “connected to” that I don’t actually know, because they’re relatives that my closer family avoids because they’re freaking vampires, toxic, or worse. The most forgivable is a cousin who, in her defense, is utterly bat-**** insane and marries guys who match. She does tend to come out “on top,” to the point where I’m not sure how anybody is dumb enough to have any voluntary interaction with her, her own children won’t.

                A couple of nasty ones where neither side was trying to salt the earth– and they’re NOT amicable divorces, but both sides think they lost, horribly. (no minors involved, thank goodness)

                **********

                It appears that the most manipulative get empowered by judicial activism– go figure!

            • Or maybe better, it applies to any case where activists fail to accept they actually won.

            • I am sadly having to give my son a talk about what women are capable of. He’s experienced part of it already; a girl he used to be friends with chased him around the playground, throwing sticks at him and yelling at him ‘play stickie with me!’ We had already instructed that he keep away from her, and if she approached him, move towards a teacher. He was in the process of doing so when a stick hit him on the head, and he had enough, picked up a small stick, flung it in her general direction and hit her in the chest.

              She immediately shrieked and ran to the teacher, yelling that he’d hurt her. Teacher, fortunately for my son, had seen her chasing him all over the yard, and told her off for trying to get him in trouble. I had warned the teacher also that there had been a friend falling out and that this might cause disruption in the class if the girl or her brother picked fights, and that they should be kept apart.

              Not teaching him to hate women, but to be very, very careful.

        • “If people hold categorical responsibility, then you must bear the burden of the Holocaust, you Nazi.”

          Because that was the philosophy of the Nazis — all Jews are punishable for the acts of any Jew — and anybody arguing such a principle is in fundamental agreement with Nazis. Thus we know what they are and are merely haggling over targets.

  6. Once upon a time Walter Cronkite was “the most trusted man in America.” That just meant that he could lie with impunity and no one would call him on it.

    • And once again forgot the little clicky thing.

    • I know Uncle Walter lied various times (most egregious being the Tet Offensive). But This summer on the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing they were running the news coverage from the time and Cronkite’s reaction, tearing up and clearly being emotionally overwhelmed reminded me why we trusted him. None of the current crop of “reporters” would have done anything but claim that Slavery somehow aided the moon launch or that wasn’t it a shame that we’d spent a couple billion dollars that could have provided food (cough graft cough) for millions?

    • People tend to forget that “most trusted” is not synonymous with “most reliable” or “most honest.”

    • I heard an anchor at a major news outlet give a speech about how he had seconds to decide if on camera he was going to “contradict” “Uncle Walter” or confirm the lie. He confirmed the lie and his career shot up. Oddly, he was very proud of something that actively repulsed me. I was, also, actively repulsed by the rest of the audience nodding and agreeing it was the right decision.

    • Yeah, my family always watched Cronkite and believed every word he said. On the other hand, I think there was always that niggling doubt in the back of my mind. I remembered watching his coverage of the space program from Mercury right on through. He was a big fan of NASA, but he didn’t understand what was going on even as well as an interested (or maybe obsessed) nine year old.

  7. You are right, we are better than they are because we can’t get sloppy!
    Look at the Ukraine phone call nonsense!
    They had it all planned ahead of time. Accuse the President, hold hearings, make up lies, all based on an illegal leak of a phone call!
    But President Trump fooled them and released the transcrip of the call, something that is never done, and they are floundering around not knowing what to do!
    They got caught in a lie and don’t know what to do but try and bull on through. Not going to work!

  8. “Heck, if you add historians to the act — and they’re definitely part of the left information complex — ”

    Everything the Left does in America is weak-sauce. Here’s the real deal, in China as usual:

    https://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2019/10/more-real-oppression-in-china.html

    Bulldozing 1000 year old cemeteries, how about that? By which I mean driving a bulldozer over it and leaving the bones lying around on the surface.

    Meanwhile, the National Basketball League and Apple are playing patty-cake with them. Okay? Just so we know what’s what.

    Oh and by the way, the USA intelligence community is copying China’s ubiquitous surveillance model. Or the Chicoms are copying theirs, its hard to tell.

    • > ubiquitous surveillance

      Do you carry a smartphone? It not only spies on you, but everyone within range of its microphone, camera, and wifi receiver.

      Every single piece of a smartphone – from the actual microprocessor chip, to the firmware, to the operating system, to the application software – is backdoored for the convenience of… basically, almost anyone who’s interested in what you’re up to.

      In 1984, only your television spied on you…

      • I only carry it to places that I want them to know about. ~:D

        Do you know about the license plate reader explosion? They track plates -everywhere- now.

        • License plate readers are more reliable than facial recognition. What’s a shame is that you have to have a warrant to pull phone data to prove whereabouts of an unfaithful spouse for a divorce; but the CIA and FBI have effective carte blanc to see that information.

          • As I understand it facial recognition is HARD once you get past IIRC around 10,000 people to distinguish. Human variation is much less than we would like to think, and then you add in the need to account for someone having a cut on their face or something.

            As far as the machine is concerned “we all look the same”. And it gets less politically correct from there.

            • Heck, facial recognition is hard for *me*. I’m not “face blind”, but I only perceive a few dozen unique faces that almost everyone seems to walk around with.

              And now we know Amazon’s vaunted facial recognition software doesn’t work as well as they thought. Makes me wonder about their software development; no programmer would have trotted such poorly performing software out for public inspection. I suspect a combination of one level of management being not-quite-truthful about progress, and a higher level of management making executive decisions based on that.

              • Where I heard this had to do with the reason why the Amazon physical stores don’t use facial recognition.

                Object tracking tech on the other hand is quite good.

              • I think it has more to do with the fear mongers overstating how effective the technology is, when the actual roll-out can’t manage it. I know that Seattle is still sending bills to the wrong houses for their license plate scanners for the toll bridges.

                I’m with you on faces. There are FOUR LADIES at church who have the same dang face, and they’ve all got short-ish hair, darkened, which is sometimes curled.

                Two variations of Joan, one something that starts with an S, and one with a K.

                ONE of the Joans (Joeanne? Joanie? Jeenie?) is a very sweet hairdresser, the one with an S name is a librarian that’s nice to my kids (but one of the other librarians is named Joan– actually Joan), and the other two don’t have much use for me…..

                • Seattle is still sending bills to the wrong houses for their license plate scanners

                  Don’t worry, just a few minor bugs that will be eliminated when they roll out the new embedded chip plates which will engage in an electronic handshake with the plate reading software to ensure minimal errors.

                • I found pics online of my mother’s 3 cousins (who I didn’t know existed growing up….). Facial recognition would have a real difficult time telling them apart.

      • My old flip phone went obsolete, but I was able to find an Alcatel phone as a replacement. It’s about the dumbest smart phone around, and as far as I can tell, uses a Linux variant called KaiOS, *not* Google derived. With the smallish screen, there’s little incentive to keep it on when I don’t need it, so except when I leave home, it’s just plain off.

        I’m old enough so that I can treat a cellphone as simply a means to make phone calls, and can bypass the extra features. If I really wanted to get crazy, I suppose I could resurrect my old Handspring PDA. 🙂

        And that just reminded me; since I’ve been housebound since the end of July, the phone hasn’t been used. Charge state is still 99%.

      • “They shoot spies, you know.” is a nice line to say randomly when “nobody” is listening. And there is an option if you turn on developer options (on Android) to report location to be whatever you like. Won’t do anything for cell-tower-triangulation, of course.

        One of the new (just released in the last couple months?) Linux phones has physical switches to truly disconnect things. I hope it takes off (but I’ve been burned by ‘early adopting’ so.. ox slow).

        • Of course, we know they DO NOT shoot spies — they exchange them with the enemy for those of our spies the enemy has captured.

          It’s merely professional courtesy.

      • TRX – That’s why I have a rooted phone with a custom OS and no Google services or apps that use anything but the on board GPS for location.

        • So do I; LineageOS, some F-Droid, and no Google app has ever been near it, and nothing I can’t get the source code for. GPS is turned “off” until I can get around to replicating the build environment and recompiling with it patched out.

          All I *really* want, I have finally decided, is a dumb phone with a real off switch, and a pager. But pagers cost more than phones, and coverage is extremely limited.

    • Meanwhile, the National Basketball League and Apple are playing patty-cake with them. Okay? Just so we know what’s what.

      The way that free trade with China was supposed to work was that they get used to the idea of having NBA games and iPhones, and then when someone like the Rockets owner says something like what he did, the regime doesn’t dare react for fear that the populace will riot if their NBA gets cut off. Thus, the idea of people criticizing the government is also something people get used to. I’m sympathetic to that point of view. To a certain extent, it may even be working (certainly the level of screaming that the CCP is doing over a single tweet suggests that THEY think it might work if it isn’t stamped on hard).

      But overall, it isn’t really working. As another commentator said, we’re not exporting our values to China, they’re exporting theirs to us. And I think it is time to start considering whether trade with China is worth it.

      • $SPOUSE was watching Tucker Carlson, and a guest pointed out that a lot of what’s driving the NBA crap is the fact that the shoe companies are strongly tied to China, so there’s additional leverage on the part of the Chicoms.

      • The Soviet Union lifted the Party jackboot off the citizenry’s necks just a bit, and that didn’t work out so well for the CPUSSR.

        I suspect that example is never far from the minds of the PLA nomenklatura.

        • That, and the very long memories that if the dynasty loses the Mandate of Heaven (things get bad, natural disasters, plague…) then the people have a duty to remove the dynasty and put a virtuous dynasty in its place.

      • My opinion on the NBA-Hong Kong thing is that the Rockets staff are giving up their (perhaps not-so-) sacred honor to keep their fortune. The signers of the Declaration of Independence would be appalled.

        • Boy, will they be surprised when President Warren’s wealth tax ensures that their eventual sale of the franchise nets them about a buck ninety-seven after taxes.

          Those billion dollar franchises are civic assets, don’cha realize!

      • It’s a question of culture, too. Even here in the US, with a cultural bias toward liberty, we libertarian minded people run into plenty of folks, left and right, who prize stability/order/harmony/security over liberty. Chinese culture biases towards stability and harmony. Always has.

        Yeah, the current Chinese government is Communist. But Imperial China would probably have had the same reaction.

      • Right? Living in Portugal I suppose there’s stone walls and churches and all kinds of stuff that’s 1000 years old lying around all over the place.

        Here in Canada I once upon a time did “archaeology” on Indian village sites that weren’t even 500 years old. This place never had people in it, there’s nothing here.

        Thus, when I read about Islamists dynamiting 2000 year old statues or the Chicoms bulldozing [LITERALLY] ancient burial sites, it really hacks me off.

    • On Historians: A few days ago finished listening to “Debunking Howard Zinn” on Audible. Throughout the book the author points to even leftist historians would call out Zinn’s blatant lies, lies by omission, and deliberate selection bias. But when then Governor of Indiana Mitch Daniels argued for removal of Zinn’s book from Indiana schools using exactly those arguments University “Historians” came down on Zinn’s side. (And, unfortunately, Daniels folded.)

      • For some reason, politicians seem to think that PhD>common sense. Which tells me they’ve never spent time around graduate students.

        • Piled Higher and Deeper

          Provincial, Hidebound, and Derpish?

          • I’d like to argue with that, but… I know too many who lean that way.

            • BobtheRegisterredFool

              I started a partial defense with caveats*, then lost the plot when I decided I wanted a concise explanation of why selecting for people who can do a lot of scholarly work fast can mean selecting for people who haven’t enough experience thinking regular thoughts about regular problems to be any good at common sense.

              Which might itself be a case study in someone who has optimized for certain types of thinking. At the expense of good judgement in other areas? Folks here might have opinions on that.

              P.S. I don’t have any graduate degrees. I probably have always been pretty strange.

              *There are folks worth something in their field. Meet a bunch of them, and you discover that some of them are pretty weak outside of their field.

    • And don’t forget Blizzard stomping on a pro Hearthstone player for daring to support the HK protests.

  9. Blogs took down not only Dan Rather but the bizarre deception he’d concocted which otherwise might have given up president Jean Francois Kerry (Quod Avertat Deus! Like Hillary, in less mannish pants!)

    I’ll disagree with you here. Rather’s National Guard story was never going to give us President Kerry. If it had been 100% true, no one would have cared. Bush was not running for president on the strength of his performance in the National Guard. His story was that he was the alcoholic son of privilege who found Jesus, got sober, and became a responsible leader; the idea that his commander in the Guard had less than flattering things to say about him in the 70s would fit just fine in that story.

    This goes back to the point about the Left not being very good at their job and too used to commanding the narrative. The narrative that Kerry wanted was that the election was a re-fight of Vietnam with the heroic Purple Heart-winner vs. the draft-dodger-in-all-but-name. Rather simply assumed that that was the narrative that would take hold and made his fraud to further it; the fact that it hadn’t went completely over his head.

    • Kerry thought he could have anti-war cred with one group while having military-hero cred with the other group. At the same time. Throw away his medals and still have them displayed on his wall.

      Also, the reason he didn’t release his military records wasn’t anything skeevy about his discharge… it was his officer evaluation of his IQ. I’d bet real money that it was lower than Bush’s was.

      • I blew the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test totally out of the water.
        Which is one reason I’m not particularly impressed with any military officers.

      • It’s long amazed me that candidates seem to assume that they can say one thing one place and another thing another places, and that somehow the two stories won’t collide. And that’s withOUT accounting for The Rules (“All guns are loaded. All wires are live. All camera/microphones are broadcasting/recording.”) Once there were more than a couple experimental rail lines or telegraphs lines, that era – if it had ever existed – was over.

        • I’ve seen it compared to the Arab leaders who say one thing in English for the international Brahamandarins and another in Arabic for the locals. At least they have the minimal competence to use different languages to try to disguise their insincerity.

        • Because they used to do exactly that.
          I remember when Bill Clinton was running against Bush I, and on consecutive days, took forceful stands for and against allowing homosexuals to openly serve in the armed forces.
          The same commentators from CNN covered both speeches, and gushed about both “historic” stands.
          I was in a public area, hanging out with the same people in the same place the second day as the first. What really freaked me out, is that no one else even blinked.

          • Not only didn’t blink, but in my experience, get rather upset when you point out that’s the opposite of what they were agreeing with the day before.

            “We’ve always been at war with Eastasia!”

            Sigh.

        • Much as we complain (rightly) about the bias shown by youtube, facebook, twitter, et al, they have basically allowed us to backtalk the idiots and broadcast the truth.

        • “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

          Uncle Ronnie had to teach some of the media that “not for broadcast” meant “not for broadcast…”

    • Kerry failed when he claimed Bush actively lied.

      Had he campaigned on Bush got into the war based on Clinton era intel (which was a common defense against Bush lied) and instead argued Bush was irresponsible in not getting better intel in light of the 9-11 failure he could have won.

      The American public wants to believe their presidents are honest and act with the nation’s best interest in mind. Convincing the public a president failed to do that is one thing. Convincing the public he intentionally lied to do the opposite had a very high wall of disbelieve you need to climb.

      • That… and Kerry lost a few hundred thousand votes every time he opened his mouth.

        If he’d STFU the election would have been, if not a win for him, at the very least very close.

        Hillary had the same problem, except I expect she lost a whole lot more Democratic votes every time she went on a tirade. That, and she kept campaigning against the other Democratic candidates long after she had the nomination. Which not only wasted time and money, it actively turned sure votes against her.

        • Cough. Blast from the past time …

          When Johnny went a-huntin’
          In Ohio this week, John Kerry tried to stage something for the press to show that he’s not an anti-gun elitist who looks down his nose at the voting public. But the dog-and-pony show he put on in order to hunt geese in Ohio the other day largely served as another political opportunity for the Bush campaign and the National Rifle Association to remind gun owners that few senators have been as hostile to them as Mr. Kerry.

          Mr. Kerry’s Ohio hunting adventure started last Saturday, when the senator, campaign entourage in tow, went into a grocery store and asked the owner: “Can I get me a hunting license here?” Even the phraseology sounded staged. Mr. Kerry ordinarily doesn’t talk this way, and his language sounded fake and patronizing — as if he was pretending to talk like someone from rural Ohio.

          When Mr. Kerry went hunting on Thursday in Boardman, Ohio, the event was tightly choreographed. Even as Mr. Kerry allowed himself to be photographed wearing a camouflage jacket, he was “also careful not to scare off supporters who might be a little squeamish about seeing their candidate smeared with the fresh blood of a fowl whose only crime was to try landing in the wrong cornfield,” Charles Hurt of The Washington Times reported.

          Mr. Kerry and his handlers wanted to come away with sanitized pictures they think will play well with focus groups. After two hours of hunting, photographers with long photo lenses noticed that Mr. Kerry’s hand was bloodied. By the time he reached the reporters, he had tucked that hand into his sleeve. Unlike the other hunters, all of them carrying their geese, Mr. Kerry was careful not to be photographed holding the bird he shot. He’s triangulating — trying to do whatever he can to to persuade hunters he’s their buddy, without completely alienating animal-rights backers on the political left who might be inclined to support him.

          [END EXCERPT]

          It isn’t their condescension, it is their assumption we’re too dumb to realize they’re condescending.

        • Knew someone who really, really didn’t want to vote Hillary, but felt he had to, because Trump. I advised that he not vote Hillary, but vote for the person he really wanted, even if there was no chance in hell of that person winning.

          • Few areas had write-in votes any more, so you’re limited to whoever has been picked by the approved Party caucuses. (a few places, they don’t have to have state approval)

            The electoral processes are thoroughly pwned by the Party NGOs, who, through regulatory capture, make it difficult or impossible to get on a ballot if you’re not sponsored by a Party.

            We make a big deal out of sprinkling “democracy” pixie dust, but the USA has been an oligarchy for a long time.

    • My comment seems to have disappeared… short version: as an enlisted person the idea of a bored lieutenant being gone during my duty weekend didn’t seem like something to hate the idea of, but we were supposed to hate it because “the left” has no concept and never did figure out what they didn’t understand.

      The stories they made up to explain the lack of outrage have likely played into the societal mess we’re in now where no one can even imagine someone having a different opinion than what they’ve been assigned.

      • It’s the same thing where they keep going on about Trump “insulting” the military: things like telling the one guy’s widow that he knew what he was getting in for and did it anyway. They really cannot fathom that we would find the notion that someone *understands the sacrifice* more comforting than someone who just mouths words of respect or condolence. Or the VIP visit thing. Just really don’t understand people at all.

  10. “Since they lived in real niche environments and were very well adapted to them, some of them in ways that made them look truly ridiculous.”
    and running into fast changes and critters they have defense against?

    So
    Dodos?

    • **no defense**
      silly finners

    • I was thinking DEC and the other dwarves facing Intel and the commodity PC/server manufactures, but that’s me.

      • you nerd
        (who’da thunk it? Nerds here?!)

      • To Be honest DEC got bested by Sun and SGI and the workstation. No real need for a midsize system if you could have one at your desk. For the real heavy duty scientific stuff a pre pentium pc was garbage as its floating point was seriously weak. Similarly the Workstation vendors failed to notice the PC getting better floating point and graphics getting better in the early to mid ’90s. Actually Part of the Workstation folks did notice it. There were a bunch of folk from SGI that wanted to focus on the graphics card NOT the whole workstation. SGI management cut that off at the knees as the margins were thin on cards. So a bunch bailed and formed NVidia.

        • Well, DEC did try to compete in the Workstation market with the VAXstation and the Alpha based workstations.

          I wanted a DEC Alpha so badly bitd.

          • I wish someone would dig the Alpha, or MIPS, or even the old 68xxx out of the files, soup them up, and put them back on the market. Even if it takes half a dozen of them to match an i9 or Ryzen.

            Meanwhile, I’m hoping for Russian or Chinese CPUs to hit the American market. Though it’s a crap shoot as to whether they would play it straight or try to build in their own back doors.

            • RISCV has the same pleasant-to-program feel—consider it the “lessons learned” revival of those old systems. Not a lot of silicon options yet, but looks promising.

            • Depends on whether or not Taiwan still will exist, I think. Given the hard left turn of the government there basically having a number of Taiwanese apparently turning mainland-supporting (!) I wonder if the hard lefty turn wasn’t a plant.

            • I believe ultimately Intel holds the rights to the Alpha and its patents. I suspect at least some of the parallelism features that were in Alpha(and last Generation VAX) are in recent generations of Intel and Itanium chips. In the Mid 90’s Compaq basically settled with Intel over some patent infringement suits DEC had started in the early 90’s. Intel paid a huge wad of cash and promised to be foundry and development for Alpha for as long as Compaq wanted it. In return it got rights to all the Alpha (and VAX ) patents including the ones it had infringed, Got the Hudson MA foundry (which was then near state of the art) and got all the development engineers and the compiler back end code generation engineers. It was a dumb move on Compaq’s part but they were way over extend grabbing DEC and needed a cash infusion to keep moving.

          • What was really bad was that DEC had a wonderful operating system in VMS. The had 64 bit while IBM was bragging about their 32 bit.

            • VMS could do so much… if your fingers didn’t wear down issuing the commands. COBOL fingers, indeed.

            • I finally, finally got my VMS hobbyist licenses. With smh running on a Pi it is tempting to make it my text work OS.

              I really want to get a graphics free system for my writing, at least first drafts. Less distraction.

          • Herbn I am quite cognizant of the fact DEC/Digital tried to compete in that market :-). Primarily because graphics and Workstations is what I did most of my 22 years at Digital (and Compaq and HP). They had two issues 1) the graphics cards/chips always kind of lagged what HP/Sun/SGI were doing 2) They made amazingly sturdy machines but it meant the costs were too high and the margins poor.

            • Dude, you worked on these things at DEC? If we meet I need to buy you 1d6 beers/beverages of you choice.

              • Right Dec GKS And PHIGS in the 80’s and assorted NT and Unix driver level software as well as some GL stuff (where GL had to play with the hardare to move data fast). If I run into you somewhere Herbn I’ll take you up on that, although a d4 might be more than I can cope with 🙂

          • Briefly, Alpha-based workstations did have a serious corner in the CGI field. Esp once they made the X86 emulator so you could run Photoshop. One of their problems was the 21264 generation Alphas took too long to ship and were not as competitive as they would have been if they had met their original shipping date….

            • Right On the 21264 workstations running the rebadged Intergraph (4D60T) cards they were king for running Maya and similar stuff on Alpha NT for about 1 year. I was the project lead and low level driver developer for that effort. Picked up my love of real BBQ from flying down to Huntsville Al. all the time and being wined (well sweet tea) and dined by the Intergraph folks for that 18 months or so.

        • Ah, that takes me back. A few memories have been dredge up by your post.

          I was working a crappy retail job around late 2000/early 2001 while working on a degree in software engineering technology and chatting with a coworker about difficulty finding a job for required co-op experience. He tells me his brother is a bigwig at SGI and gives me his card. I was really busy with schoolwork the next couple days, so I didn’t get a chance to call, and then I go in to work and my coworker says not to call if I hadn’t already, because his brother and whole lot of others at SGI had just been laid off.

          I did eventually find a job, a few months later. One of my first coworkers there turned out to be the sister of one of the nVidia founders.

          A few weeks into the job, I was looking for something in the department closet and saw a literal stack of workstations (One DEC of some sort and a few Intergraph Clippers) that had been replaced by Windows NT 4.0 Compaqs before I arrived.

          • Ah, SGI. I have two Octanes out in the barn, Motorola RISC machines. The things are -beautiful- and built like a tank. Unfortunately they are also power-hungry and run slower than a Raspberry Pi.

            I build my own PCs these days out of whatever gamer kit is fastest/cheapest at any given time. None of the Big Companies sell anything I’d touch with a barge pole. Too cheesy.

          • ” He tells me his brother is a bigwig at SGI and gives me his card. I was really busy with schoolwork the next couple days, so I didn’t get a chance to call, and then I go in to work and my coworker says not to call if I hadn’t already, because his brother and whole lot of others at SGI had just been laid off.”

            Not computers, but son ran into the same situation for chemistry lab positions locally; 2011/2012. Two, one a chemist lead (neighbor’s twin and had watched kid grow up), another a chemical engineer (newer Scoutmaster of troop son earned Eagle through, knew son through us because we were still semi-active then), helped him individually craft his resume for 2 companies in town. Scoutmaster even reviewed the resume for the other company as he had worked there before. Son submitted resume in the months he was finishing up his degree. Before the last class finished, both individuals above were fighting for their own jobs, and failed (along with everyone else),. Both companies locally were purchased for their intellectual properties and patents and disappeared.

  11. There can be no “safety” — it is merely a temporary condition. To think otherwise is to ignore fundamental laws of nature. Anyone claiming otherwise is selling you something.

  12. Reunite Gondwanaland

  13. No, seriously, we now know JFK had at least as many bimbo issues, but no one ever heard of them, and instead what you saw was the image of the perfect first family.

    Honest question, how much of that was the press and how much of that was JFK and RFK (but not Teddy) having a sense of propriety and not doing it in the street in front of the women and horses.

    I think as much as the protections breaking down from JFK to Clinton there was also a generation raised thinking those protections were the norm. The press can’t cover for the whoopers of Elizabeth Warren, although they are trying. Lesser whoopers ended Biden’s campaign to be president in the 80s. Gary Hart got killed by a picture he was stupid enough to let be taken in the same decade and Democrats agreed he had to go.

    I cannot believe that part of it is older Dems knew there were limits to the protection and thus limits to what they should try to get away with.

    Later generations seem to have decided there are no limits.

    • Justifiably, they were protected by manners face to face without having to abide by them.

    • ….you know, once again, theology got there first.

      There’s a huge amount of stuff on causing scandal– both by you doing stuff that can be taken as sinful even if it’s not, and by telling folks that someone else is sinning even if they are– with all kind of “if needful” carve-outs.

      Guess it’s a human problem. Again. /sigh

    • The answer: mostly the press. This much later, stories have leaked out. They were worse (far) that Billy Jeff.

      • Much of what I’ve heard about the Kennedy brothers makes me think that “You’d better put some ice on that” would be a gentlemanly expression of concerned compared to what they might say to their “conquests.”

      • Some of the stories about what JFK persuaded/forced interns to do were pretty seamy.

      • Given that LBJ was aware of it

        When people mentioned Kennedy’s many affairs, Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose.

        it could have hardly have been a well-kept secret.

    • Hart also got torpedoed because he was stupid enough to dare the press to follow him around. He gambled that the press wouldn’t do so, and his dare would strengthen his image of a man with nothing to hide.

      And then the Miami Herald decided to follow him around, and Hart got indignant. That made him look like a hypocrit. And Americans have never liked hypocrits.

    • There were NO limits to the protection given the Democrats.

      Teddy Kennedy. Expired license, Likely drunk. Runs off the road. Leaves a girl to drown in his car. Doesn’t call the police until the next day. Doesn’t spend a single day in jail. Later revered by Democrats as “The Lion of the Senate.”

      Yet most people today know none of that. Makes you wonder what else has been hidden.

      Without the internet, Dan Rather would have gotten away with his lies. Blogging has changed things.

      • Ah yes Lion of the Senate.. of course Male lions do occasionally kill female members of their pride so perhaps Teddy was just setting himself up for that sobriquet…

  14. Jean Francois Kerry (Quod Avertat Deus! Like Hillary, in less mannish pants!)

    You don’t need “in” or “pants” in that last bit.

  15. New England Yankee

    Maybe part of it comes from falling standards in education? Again and again, it seems the globalist left is caught up by pragmatic details, such as, the Electoral College. Or, in Britain, by parliamentary maneuvers that any parliamentarian should know.

    If you raise people in an environment in which you can be shamed and cast out at any moment for behavior that was ordinary yesterday, you raise people to expect to come to power through activist theater. (Greta Thunberg, anyone?)

    I am taken aback that this crop of Democratic candidates thinks this is a great platform:

    no cheeseburger
    no cars
    no police
    no right to self-defense
    no electricity
    no free enterprise
    no patriotism
    no private property

    really?

    • The Gilligan’s Island Party… sans Professor.

    • Maybe part of it comes from falling standards in education?

      Heck, I recall some TV show in the 1980’s (Real People or That’s Incredible) going on about something and how utterly amazing it was that this person could do that… and as I recall, the amazing thing was something I could remember from the 4th grade. Now maybe I couldn’t have done it so well right off, but it wasn’t anything needing an advance education or years of practice. Days, maybe.

    • NO prisons! (AOC’s latest stupidity.)

      • BobtheRegisterredFool

        Well, some of the Indian Tribes practiced capital punishment with the theory that imprisonment is cruel and unusual. I would not have a philosophical objection to switch to a system of fines and execution. Okay, I would have a ton of objections from my philosophy of practical objections.

        No doubt Cortez isn’t talking about something sane, and either does not plan to win, or fails to realize that a fine or community service only based approach to criminal punishment is only going to make advocates for vigilante execution much more effective. And renting out chain gains is not a politically viable alternative to prisons.

        • Mme. Guillotine shall be busy in AOC’s little world, one presumes.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            Not just ice floes.

            There was a time when the indians were on reservations before the federal law enforcement infrastructure was in place for additional oversight, in the sense that the FBI can go after murders committed in any part of the country.

            So the tribal constabularies could handle offenses without having to worry about satisfying the aesthetics of white people. Some of the indians of the day really did not like being confined inside for long stretches of time. Even if the tribe did have funds to run a prison. So they decided fines, beatings, and executions were the more compassionate options.

            You look at some records and you see offenses of drunken* manslaughter being punished with execution.

            *Indian populations did not have some of the enzymes found in European or even African/Asian populations for dealing with alcohol. They also found themselves confined to reservations, no idea how to live, and none of the cultural mores European populations had developed with access to lots of hard alcohol, and access to a fair amount of hard alcohol. (Yes, I still believe that the Catholic oriented narratives of the history of alcohol prohibition are missing some of the dynamics of the matter.)

            • What’s worse, they did have cultural traditions about mind altering drugs.

              I’ve read that the tribes what is now the South assimilated it to mind-altering drugs so that the point was getting plastered, leaving them wondering why whites would drink beer when hard liquor would get them plastered quicker, and if there wasn’t enough for everyone to get plastered, some people got plastered and the others got to have a spectator sport.

      • Prisons do seem to be a weird punishment. For a normal job-holding parent, ripping them away from their family and career for 5 years is horrible. For less integrated members of society, though, it seems more like sending them to graduate school. Public shaming might be a better punishment for minor crimes, particularly in subcultures where ‘respect’ is a big currency. Being dressed in a silly outfit, blindfolded, and put in stocks in the park all weekend where kids can throw rotten tomatoes at you would both take a productive job-holding person who committed a minor crime out of that stable life path less and might also be more deterrence to a shiftless layabout.

        • Well our court and legal system in general aren’t so much based on a coherent theory of…. anything much. More like “we tossed a few hundred fragments of concepts in the air and saw what landed nearby”.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            We should be wary of ‘this or that aspect of society had to have a solid theoretical underpinning’.

            One danger is that we might find ourselves slipping down the path to attempting rule by intellectual vanity. There’s also a Chesterton’s Fence argument that seemingly theoryless situations might in fact have more complex functions than are easily found.

            Forex, the legal system can be understood as a compromise of many conflicting parties. In such a situation you might usually expect a result that seems to have come from the worst of committees.

        • If we borrowed Japanese style jails (with serious American improvements– some sort of learning software? But keep the lack of interaction unless it’s cleared folks) jails would make a lot more sense.

        • Yes, but that doesn’t seem to be what AOC means…

          • I doubt even AOC understands what AOC means; most of her utterances seem to be scarce more than word salad catch phrases intended to allow listeners to “hear” what they want to hear. She doesn’t so much express thoughts as flash gang signs.

    • an environment in which you can be shamed and cast out at any moment for behavior that was ordinary yesterday,

      Some people would call that an abusive environment.

    • Speaking of parliamentary maneuvers, I saw an article reporting that the British Parliament’s Speaker has been found to have been colluding with EU bureaucrats too stymie the Brexit movement.

      Ah – here ’tis:
      Remainer Speaker John Bercow Met With EU Counterpart to Stymie A Clean Brexit
      British Parliament Speaker John Bercow met with European Union President David Sassoli to discuss how best to prevent Britain from making a clean break with the EU, Sassoli revealed on the floor of the European parliament on Wednesday.

      Sassoli, whose position is equivalent to Bercow’s former post as Parliament speaker, revealed on Wednesday that the two met in Brussels and were on the “same wavelength” regarding Brexit.

      “We share an awareness that a chaotic exit of the UK from the EU would work to the detriment of citizens on both sides,” Sassoli told European Parliament members.

      British supporters of Brexit were furious at the news, accusing Bercow of working behind the country’s back while his position as Parliament Speaker is supposed to be impartial.

      “What right does the Speaker have to do this?” tweeted Brexit party leader Nigel Farage, adding that Bercow’s actions were “disgraceful.”

      Chairman of the Brexit Party Richard Tice declared, “we Brexit Party MEPs nearly fell off our chairs, gobsmacked” when Sassoli revealed the meetings.

      British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has repeatedly vowed to exit the European Union by October 31, with or without an agreement with the EU that would ensure orderly trade and immigration processes continue.

      Johnson suspended the British Parliament in early September in what many saw as an attempt to silence debate on leaving the EU in the run-up to the planned October 31 exit. Bercow strongly protested the suspension at the time, deeming it “an act of executive fiat.”

      Then, on September 24 the British supreme court ruled the suspension of Parliament illegal.

      Bercow has promised to resign by October 31. While Johnson and other ministers have framed Parliament as frustrating the will of the people when dealing with Brexit, Bercow declared himself unmoved, telling CNN the attacks on Parliament are “unworthy. They don’t amount to a row of beans, and I’m not at all intimidated by them.”

      • Collaborationist back room dealing with officials of the German puppet governing body of occupied Europe?

        Cue Claude Raines:

    • You can add no freedom of religion to your list New England Yankee.
      The left wonders why the religious right voted for a womanizing multiply divorced quondam Methodist over Hillary. Of course the religious looked at where things had gotten too under Obumbles and decided martyrdom such as seen under Nero was not something to participate in if it could be avoided…

      • It’s always boggled me that the #1 argument against Trump being supported by religious people wasn’t “he’s lying” (about having changed) it’s “he WAS a sinner!”

        Uh. Guys, Christians…kinda recognize that’s a thing you can recover from….

        • There may be a little theological argument over details of whether its recovery or are counted righteous.

          However something the left don’t understand is in the eyes of orthodox Christianty ALL have sinned and fallen short of the mark. They don’t get that. Like the Pharisees they think I followed the rules (611 or otherwise) and I’m good. Not realizing the standard is INFINITELY good. No mere human can do that. On top of that they seem to utterly forget the conversation which ends with Jesus asking “Then who’s picture is is on the coin?” “Caesars” they reply. “Then give to Caesar what is Caesars and G*d what is G*ds”.

      • And you are NOT CHRISTIAN if you voted for him!

        Amazing how often atheists are fundamentalists.

        • Right they can’t even cogently describe their OWN beliefs and yet feel free to comment on something they have no knowledge of. Just SJW’s being SJW’s as usual.

  16. I get my monthly requirement of dinosaur through a game that has me managing a park full of them for tourists to come watch. My scientists let me know just recently that they’ve developed a brand new hybrid species, which they’re calling an “indoraptor”. Sounds interesting. I’m looking forward to what it can do for my park.

    • I get a similar benefit through a board game called Dinogenics. I won’t link to avoid WP jail, but they’re still accepting late orders on Kickstarter.

  17. Folks!

    What on earth?

    I am disappointed.

    It’s been hours…and not a single variation of “niches for Sneetches with stars upon thars” or similar?

    /sigh

  18. The current brouhaha reminds me of Ringo’s “MHI- Saints”, where the MCB continues to resort to their old tricks in the face of Chad’s lawsuit.

    Or, if you want to use a real life example- the various WWI allied generals insisting on the same tactic of “mass infantry charge to make a hole for the Calvary to roll up the enemy lines”. Note that it took an Aussie and a Canadian to come up with something that actually worked.

    • God is on the side with the biggest battalions . . .

    • The WWI Generals should have been SHOT whenever that gave an Over the Top order. The people under them after the first few times KNEW that it was STUPID and did NOTHING but get people killed. THEY KNEW IT!! They should have had the Guts to shoot the Bastards but because THEY weren’t the people dying they pasted on the orders. Never in history have so many been so dishonorable. Millions died for NOTHING. The Generals KNEW that they were NOT going to break through the trenches. They knew that they couldn’t hold the trenches they took and they were going to be back in the SAME positions as before the attack except they had lost 10s of 1000s of men killed and more wounded.

      Just think how many men could have been saved by just shooting the Generals that gave such stupid orders. But that would have cost careers and they couldn’t have that.

      • A lot of the staff trained at the same schools in the same tactics, and were part of the same cult of the Frontal Attack.
        Even the Americans were all about the Massed Frontal Attack when they joined the war in 1917-18.
        That’s one of the problems with warfare. It takes a while to clear out the general staff deadwood of careerist, political butt kissers, and incompetents with seniority for the people who actually know how to fight the war they are actually fighting. And even longer still for the politicians to actually seek out and listen to the new guys with new ideas.

  19. Christopher M. Chupik

    A great example of modern “news” has been the appallingly slanted coverage of Joker. Now, I’m not sure the movie would be to my tastes, but reading story after story where “reporters” keep breathlessly trying to provoke some mentally-ill nutjob into shooting up a screening so they have fodder for an entire news cycle makes me want to see it five times in theaters and buy the Blu-Ray.

    • Hardly modern … See Billy Wilder’s Ace in the Hole, although in fairness the “reporter” does show a conscience in the end …


      “Billy Wilder’s ACE IN THE HOLE is one of the most scathing indictments of American culture ever produced by a Hollywood filmmaker. Kirk Douglas gives the fiercest performance of his career as Chuck Tatum, an amoral newspaper reporter who washes up in dead-end Albuquerque, happens upon the scoop of a lifetime, and will do anything to keep getting the lurid headlines.

      “Wilder’s follow-up to SUNSET BOULEVARD is an even darker vision, a no-holds-barred exposé of the American media’s appetite for sensation that has gotten only more relevant with time.”

  20. It’s not a period of US history I’m super-super familiar with, but you said

    “Then there is the fact that FDR, the hero president of the left, for decades credited with combating the Great Depression, probably caused it.”

    Wasn’t that “Wonder Boy” Hoover that did much of the damage to turn a bad recession into the Great Depression? FDR campaigned _against_ Hoover’s interventionism, then doubled-down on Hoover-style policies once elected. So, I don’t think there’s much debate that FDR made the situation far worse and enabled it to last far longer, but I don’t think he caused it.

    • Um… Read The Forgotten Man. There it’s argued he turned what would be a “mild recession” into a depression with his ever-loving tinkering.

      • And then FDR made it worse in 1936-37, so he had to back off on things for the ’38 election. His PR reps probably sighed with relief when international events sucked all the news out of the room in ’39-’40.

      • Hoover can arguably have said, with things like Smoot-Hawley, to have turned a market correction into a depression. It was FDR who gave it true “greatness.”

        • Yup it seems like Hoover started it but it does look like Roosevelt was saying to Hoover “Hey Herbet you think that’s keen? Hold my (illegal) beer”.

  21. This story has dominated the news for TWO WEEKS and only now do we hear about this? Had the party affiliations been inverted it would have been revealed the first day, don’cha think?

    Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal
    The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a “professional” tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

    Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only “in the executive branch.” The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he “was detailed to the National Security Council at one point.”

    Michael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community’s inspector general, told members of Congress that the whistleblower had a “professional tie” to a 2020 Democratic candidate. He had written earlier that while the whistleblower’s complaint was credible, he had shown “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate.”

    A retired CIA officer told the Washington Examiner, “From everything we know about the whistleblower and his work in the executive branch then, there is absolutely no doubt he would have been working with Biden when he was vice president.”

    As an experienced CIA official on the NSC with the deep knowledge of Ukraine that he demonstrated in his complaint, it is probable that the whistleblower briefed Biden and likely that he accompanied him on Air Force Two during at least one of the six visits the 2020 candidate made to the country. …

    Read it all, folks.

    Meme to follow …

    • I am shocked, shocked to learn the Intelligence Community is politically biased.

      Round up the usual suspects immediately.

      • I wouldn’t mind rounding up the CIA and FBI and the National Security Division of the DOJ and shipping the lot off to Alaska. I imagine the some time in the Aleutians would do that bunch good, this time of year.

        • TheOtheSean what have you got against Alaskans, Kodiak bears and our Canadian neighbors? Instead send them to San Francisco, no one will notice one more giant pile of crap.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      Well, that’s . . . interesting.

      • Very. His involvement with Biden’s travels indicates one of two things:
        A. He knows that nothing especially untoward happened, and so knows Trump doesn’t have a leg stand on.
        B. He knows something untoward happened and that he should have reported it, but didn’t, and is worried that any investigation will reveal this.

      • As I keep saying: They don’t care what we think or say, and they’ve made it obvious that they will ignore the law at will.

        Now what?

  22. I don’t trust people who don’t like dinosaurs.

  23. Dear Hostess you said ‘If I’ve been particularly good, my reward is to go to the Natural History Museum and walk through the area with dinos. ”
    Should you ever find yourself in Connecticut/NYC are with nothing to do check out the Peabody Museum in New Haven CT. Very extensive set of Fossils from all periods. I would say Rivals the American museum of Natural History in NYC or even the collection of the Smithsonian. Although the display space was getting old even 10 years ago, and New Haven is not a nice place outside the environs of Yale (and really hasn’t been since the late ’60s)

    • Since DIL hails from CT we’re considering CT for xmas. (as we have no other significant extended family. I shall let you know.)

      • Dinosaur State Park! It’s in Rocky Hill. It’s very small, but it’s for the dinosaur lover. (No, it’s not a museum.)

        • Right, up near Hartford. Visited it as a school trip at one point. There is also some discussion of whether track like areas in Devil’s Hopyard State park are/were tracks too. Unfortunately those were discovered
          in the 18th century and were/are under flowing water so essentially are gone

    • Isn’t the Peabody affiliated with the nearby Sherman Science Institute of Technology (colloquially referred to as Sherman, SIT)?

  24. I am a little further North (Live North of Boston) at present but was born in the Nutmeg State and New Haven was the nearest city of note to my home town of Clinton. So my parents took this Dinosaur crazed child to the Peabody museum from time to tine.

    • I’m sure DIL will indulge me if I make puppy dog eyes. Note all of the NE seems like a little place to this westerner of 27 years.

      • Yes it is a small place. Corner to corner across CT will take you 3 hours tops using small state roads, About 2 hrs on I-95 and I-395 (ignoring traffic). The only really large state is Maine. You can drive 7+ hours on 65+ mph highways from the souther border with NH to the furthest point before entering Canada. Take the old scenic Route 1 coastal route and its probably 13-15 hours, though very pretty.

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