This Is the Stupidest Time Line

Did any of you have “Trudeau goes full Castro” on his 2022 bingo card? Because I didn’t. And our idiots are preparing to throw the national guard at our own truckers.

Younger son is working on the boxes NOW (TBF he had to recover from work on house) and I told him that this is supposing there’s a way to ship next month.

This accelerated a bunch of things. Let’s say I spent the morning looking for office furniture. But I’ve never bought furniture. And I’ll be several times d*mned if I’m going to spend thousands of dollars on ONE bookcase. NO. And several hundred for fake wood? Also no. The current furnishings can limp on till I can build new.

Whether there will be wood, is another question, but I’m open to looking for scrap and throw-outs.

And yes, I DO realize I’m being unreasonable.

Meanwhile the news came down that Trudeauscu is getting ready to shoot drivers and gas them and kill their pets.

My heart is breaking for the pets. And anyone who says they shouldn’t be there, is going to get chased around the blog and hit. It was a for-real peaceful protest, and these are good people. They don’t understand evil. I do, but even I am upset.

So, what do you do when you live in interesting times? Besides keeping your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark?

Sometimes all you can do is hold on. Just hold on.

Find something that brings joy every day. Can be something very small. (Right now, don’t have it. Other than Dan and cats. But I mean an event or thing you do.)

You know, in the seventies, sometimes very stupid Brazilian soap operas kept me this side of the sod. “I want to see what happens next, and I know I’ll enjoy it.” Or columbo. Find something. Lunch with a friend. Books you wand to read (mine? Soon, I promise.) Something you want to do. JUST hold on.

Eventually, things will get better, and there will be stuff for you to do. Things you must do. For now, hold on. (If all else fails, do as Jerry said, and make things very clean. There might be a time you don’t have time for maintenance.)

The water is about to get rough. Find a life vest and hang on.

You will be needed.

311 thoughts on “This Is the Stupidest Time Line

  1. What do we do? Find something to do and wait for the moment. Couldn’t tell you what that moment will be. But you’ll hopefully know it when you see it.

    In the meantime, good people are going to be made into examples by the other side. It might even include some of us.

  2. I am making things. I’m buying yarn (not that much–I’m mostly using up stashes), buying fabric (mostly fat quarters, given my skills), batting, thread, and I’m making things. It makes me feel a little less helpless.

    (I suppose I need to start looking at seeds, yard space, and how to grow food. And maybe how to get a place built for chickens…)

    1. Read David the Good. (Seriously. That’s his author name on Amazon. Look for “Grow or Die” for a very good “it’s about to/has already hit the fan” way to get a functional garden going on a shoestring.) Practical, funny, and actionable. And funny. We all need funny. His advice is better suited for south of the Mason/Dixon but probably pretty useful for chillier zones as well. Hit me at trufox at the proton place if you want to talk weird food hacks.

      1. I am right at the Mason-Dixon line–SW MO. And I grew up with both my grandmas having more than an acre of garden. I have…a good bit of ground that can easily be turned to gardening. It’s a matter of breaking soil/building raised beds, honestly. And putting in the plants and taking care of them. I know how to do it…it’s just a mater of doing it.

        1. Awesome! I’m just…oddly panicky and trying to toss out useful information in any direction where it may be needed. (Still recommend the book, if only for the laugh. It starts out along the lines of “if you are reading this in the smoldering ruins of your neighbor’s home, here’s what you need to know…” 🙂

    2. NDSU Extension Service today had a video in their “field to fork” series about how to grow a veggie garden in confined space, like a porch.

  3. Try doing this as a Canadian.

    The television has been on today, alternating between the ‘approved’ feeds and independents on the ground trying to bring the actual story to the fore. After a while, it was difficult to watch State media. Between their attempts at framing a narrative that was, to be kind, not entirely accurate, and interviewing some vulture lawyer rubbing his hands together at the prospect of suing protestors and even donors for losses incurred by businesses that had been closed (at the behest of Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson), I had to turn it off.

    I have watched police beat people with gunstocks, and even as I write, women are being pepper sprayed for daring to want to protest outdoors at the nation’s capitol. I do not recognize my country anymore.

    1. Trudeau would sooner have blood in the streets than lift COVID restrictions. I wish to God someone in the gutless, spineless, soulless media was asking why.

      1. Because it was their GRAND plan for the great reset. And they REALLY want their great reset, so they’ll do ANYTHING. Even though the damn thing is unworkable and stupid, btw.

        1. Well, they are going to get it unless we do something. They’re halfway there.

          Unless the plan is let them have it and let the collapse from it end them.

          If so, we deserve the fate that brings us.

          1. No, honey, they aren’t. Kick that dog. It’s actually and for real impossible.
            It takes more pushing than that, but what they’re going to see is the world from above. BRIEFLY.

            1. I’ve been hearing “this isn’t the hill to die on” my whole life over every political fight. Yet every time I turn and look and there are fewer hills behind me.

              At what point to the 6th Army have the right to conclude it wasn’t the black dog but reality that was telling them to strike out alone into the Russian steppe (as some did, many in the last couple of weeks) figuring that could be no worse fate that staying and fighting.

              1. It still isn’t. When it is, you won’t be able to avoid it. TRUST ME. I’ve lived through this.
                It’s not “it’s not the hill to die on” it’s “it will be used as a pretext”

                1. Jerry Pournelle once wrote that “Violence is the last resort of the incompetent. The competent usually don’t wait that long.” That kinda suggests not waiting until it is the only option left.

                  1. If you have good targets, and the resources to service those targets, you should wait a period to service said targets that does /not/ closely correlate to any communications over an insecure channel.

                    Internet, email, and social media are inherently insecure media.

                    Furthermore, a guy who definitely knows that he is crazy, knows that he knows all of one clearly guilty target, and knows that the level of crazy makes one a textbook example of someone the left would like to use for propaganda, is /justified/ in having a bias towards deciding to wait, even if unsound.

                    These two elements are about half the basis for my ‘waiting works for us, don’t do it right now, and we are probably winning’. These two elements are fairly incontestable.

                    If direct action is actually a good idea, given your resources, and information on targets, you should absolutely not be talking about anything relevant on social media. This is obvious from first principles.

                    It is also obvious from first principles that the left has been slavering for propaganda examples for twenty years, that they play head games using the media, and that the lockdown has been effective at screwing over the mental health of a bunch of people. We on the right are also constantly having people realize that, hey, our extremists, including Herb, Steve, and myself, were ‘correct all along’. We’ve been getting a trickle of people realizing how bad things are, and getting angry about it. We have people seeing, some of the time, that we need lay out the propaganda argument to folks who are newly angry, and haven’t worked out the propaganda argument from first principles yet.

                    Steve and Herb were apparently saner than I was. I’ve known since grade school that I was nuts, and have since bent a lot of my personality towards ‘fail safe’. Partly as a result of having the luck of not being competent at hands on, and shutting down under stress.

                    Anyway, I noticed that I have an analytical bias, relative to Herb and Steve. One of my ‘niche positions’ that is somewhat of a life goal, builds upon ‘hey, criminal justice reform is obvious bullshit, and here is a very dangerous thing that the left may be doing with it’. Folks deciding after BLM, that criminal justice reform is hugely bullshit, and maybe the left is doing the dangerous thing, feels hugely validating to me. I’m excited about the possibility of convincing people to carry out Bob’s Crazy Plan #1 TM. That is a /lot/ of positive input, that they aren’t getting.

                    So, maybe I’m wrong about everything.

                    I also know that I often forget good reasons for holding my current position, when I’ve just found a new analysis. My memory is not very good.

                    Analytical bias B relative to Steve and Herb, I have an ongoing level of mental function self test. When the self test shows enough excitement, and enough crazy, I try not to make decisions, or do anything new, for a while, until I have clearly calmed down, am seeing differences in how I run calculations, and the most recent calculations support the proposed new action. This is a bias towards passivity that isn’t practical or necessary for most people. My issues make it at least a little bit functional. It definitely isn’t functional for anyone with the capacity to service more than a single target waging the boogaloo.

                    There clearly was a case for making some of the arguments that I have made before.

                    Some of my arguments were valid then, and are not now 100% certain to be true in the very immediate future.

                    I have two or three types of confusion going on.

                    I can’t promise that I will quit arguing my frequent previous points for the next few days, or the next week, or whatever.

                    I may be having no opinions for a while, but I cannot be sure of that.

                    My intuition still points to “I was correct before.”

                    Violence started by the left, or some other extreme left action, /and/ resulting changes in public opinion, was always the sort of thing that would have changed my opinion on ‘now is not the time for violence’ to ‘yeah, now is the time for violence’. I’ve assumed that people who are actually good at violence have their own independent judgement on when to start, and very much aren’t waiting on me to change my mind before they start. Among other reasons, officers are very political, and may be quietly following a great many conversations.

                    In hindsight, I should have been expecting to have a period where I have no opinion between ‘now is not the time’ and ‘now is the time’. Now that I have thought about it, I expect that there may be several such periods between a clear ‘now is not the time’, and a clear ‘now is the time’.

                    My feeling is that ‘the time’ might come after something happens soon, and after the public has time to process that something. I dunno.

                    1. Listen to the madman.
                      He gives good advice.

                      How does this square with my declaring kanly below?
                      I’m in a red state, a thousand miles away from Ottawa, and I’m pretty sure my passport has expired. I know very few people from Canada, and those not well. I have obligations that prevent my leaving home for even a couple of days. My ability to actually do anything about the thuggery taking place in Canada is nonexistent.
                      What I can do?
                      Throw up chaff.
                      Increase noise, mask signal, best case even waste authority’s limited resources on a red herring.
                      Not to mention that the significance of the dog that didn’t bark is almost impossible to detect when there’s a cacophony of barking.
                      Jam the beepards.

                      Gavrilo Princip didn’t need encouragement. (Or even much in the way of competence.)
                      He just needed luck, and a lot of his luck was generated by the security service chasing phantoms.

                  2. The fight isn’t against the Left for power, it’s against the Left for the support of the middle. Right now the Left has completely lost that, which means their days in power are numbered. We start shooting and the Left will use their media advantage to win back the middle, which will be the end.

                    How many battles have been lost because one side tricked the enemy into doing exactly what they wanted?

                    1. That’s the battle I’ve been keeping my eye on, too, and have been worried about accordingly. It doesn’t help that many on the right are seriously bad at trying to win the middle over.

                    2. So long as the Biden* Regime isn’t rounding up or killing their political opponents, I’m willing to let the Left keep on discrediting themselves until the midterms at least. If the elections are the same clusterfuck they were in 2020, and attempts to counter it are again ineffectual or simply shot down, then I think a re-evaluation will be in order.

                    3. In other words, herbn nailed it perfectly. The Left must win, because we don’t dare look bad.

                      Just how many times does it have to be proven? The Left hates you, they want to kill you, and even your abject surrender won’t change that.

                    4. No, he had it completely backwards. The Left must lose because they can’t help but look bad. The only way they can win is if we look worse.

                    5. snelsson134, I share your concern, but while I think the Biden* Regime is illegitimate and its overthrow is justifiable, a bloodless victory or at least stalemate via elections in a few months would be preferable. Napolean said “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” In terms of power, the Left is currently in good shape, but almost everything the regime does is harming their credibility and their already tattered pretense of legitimacy. Enough to break their hold on power? That’s what I’m wondering.

                      But while keeping a lid on violence is probably a good idea for the moment, we should always keep in mind what Solzhenitsyn wrote in “The Gulag Archipelago”: “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

                    6. I note that the Left doesn’t give a flying rat’s @$$ about optics.
                      Today’s events in Ottawa were a case in point. You had peaceful people being beaten with clubs, their property destroyed, even using horses to trample protesters underfoot.

                      The middle has little ideology besides going along to get along, not making waves, and wanting to split the difference between opposing factions.
                      As such, they can be intimated.

                      Sure, the Canada’s government enjoyed beating the stuffing out of the truckers.
                      But the main purpose was to intimidate and demoralize the middle.

                      My guess that the middle is rather more intimated by todays events than they have been inspired by the truckers.
                      (Witness the lack of response from the supposed conservatives in their parliament. They should all be screaming bloody murder. But they aren’t. And they probably won’t.)

                    7. Luke, deep breath: THEY CONTROL A LOT OF THE MEDIA, so a lot of the optics. There’s still a good 50% of people who will NOT look at alternative media.
                      So, yeah, they have that advantage with the middle.

                    8. They most assuredly do– they just think they can control the optics.

                      If a photo looks good for the story they want to tell, they’ll use it; the photograph from Saigon of the moment a Vietcong guy who had just slaughtered the women, elderly, and children identified as being related to the enemy police, being shot by the godfather of one of the little girls.

                      If the story sounds good, they’ll use the story– “wanna-be cop shoots unarmed black teenager” … who had been kicked out of school when caught with other folks’ property, in an area that had a spate of burglaries, and who jumped the man for walking on a public street, and was attempting to kill the the guy by beating his head into the sidewalk.

                      If a quote sounds good, they’ll use the quote. Without context. With false context. Without most of the sentence, even, if that sounds better, and rephrased is also useful.
                      For example, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” which is attributed to various folks they honor– which appears to have been a speech-standard for the founder of the Socialist Party of America, who
                      also helped found the Industrial Workers of the World (later left, it was too radical), and various other things that’ll be rather familiar groups.

                    9. They don’t care about optics because they never had to before. Their media coconspirators would take care of making them look good. That doesn’t fly anymore. 30 years ago they could have covered up what happened in Ottawa easily. Hell, 10 years ago they probably could have made the accusations that the truckers were all Nazi racists stick.

                      It’s way too early to see how the crackdown is going to play out. Remember that normalcy bias is a real and powerful thing, a lot of people are going to do their best to pretend that they’re still in a free country.

                      Don’t put too much weight into what the Conservatives in parliament are and aren’t doing, their leader just resigned and the woman filling the position right now isn’t running for the job. There’s going to be some hesitancy to commit to a course of action before they know who the leader who is supposed to execute it is.

                    10. Hell, 10 years ago they probably could have made the accusations that the truckers were all Nazi racists stick.

                      Look at all the things that the Liberal representatives were claiming the Truckers had done, that were reports.

                      Look at the various claims that somehow always happened without any video…and were the most prone to get folks wound up.

                      As opposed to bouncy houses, which we got LOTS of video of.

                    11. Name one middle “liberal” who has condemned Trudeau.

                      People whom you would have called liberals but the Left calls Nazis Far Rightists already don’t count.

                      We cannot win them over. We should stop trying. The majority of residents of the 13 colonies did not fight in the Revolutionary war either.

                    12. People whom you would have called liberals but the Left calls Nazis Far Rightists already don’t count.

                      They call EVERYONE who doesn’t do what they want a far-right Nazi; a decade back, we lost a veteran friend attending art school in Seattle, because he was as far right as was politely reasonable– he viewed Obama as center-right moderate, rather than solidly right-wing as all of his friends agreed.

                      That is WHY they call everyone who doesn’t do what they want a nazi.

                    13. They call anyone to the right of Castro a Nazi Far Rightist. You’re essentially asking me to name a member of Trudeau’s gang that has condemned him. It’s a idiotic request.

                  3. Our Founding Fathers waited until they had exhausted all avenues to reason with the King and Parliment. However questionable the current government’s legitimacy, it was then and still is a thing of great moment to take up arms against one’s government.

                  4. No. It suggests doing things that aren’t violent but bring the f*ckers down. Jerry would be telling you to hold your horses. Right now, go hot, and you do what the left WANTS and NEEDs.

                    1. It occurred to me they may even be hoping for a general strike, so when the city folk start to seriously suffer the government can say this “proves,” the truckers don’t care about them, are power hungry, etc (yeah, projecting as usual, but on purpose) and only the inclusive, diverse gov can protect them from the rabble.
                      No, I don’t want to be a doomer. Yes, I don’t know if it would work. I am afraid they’re arrogant (and maybe desperate) enough to try that spin.

                2. There will always be a pretext.
                  Any excuse will serve a tyrant, as Aesop noted thousands of years ago. .

                  At this point, I’m all out of damns to give about “providing a pretext”.

                  Bide your time.
                  Act not in haste.
                  Don’t throw your life away in a grand gesture. (At least, not without exacting a price that will make angels weep.)
                  But this must stop.
                  I will not be a helot.

        2. You know, I really wish I had documented the first time I saw “the great reset”. It was the summer of 2020, while I was passing through a subway station and they had a TV there to feed propag– I mean, “news” to the people waiting for their train and there was a strange ad mentioning it without any context. I thought at the time it was a little strange and vaguely unsettling.

      2. And this is one of the wretches whose approval so many of our “betters” longed for under the benighted years of “Dumper Trumper the bunker boy.”

        I have never wanted to spit in peoples’ faces more.

      1. It was, per their announcement, “shut down by agreement of the leadership.”

        I suspect the pro-trucker, pro-sanity folks didn’t want to give the psychos on video yesterday an excuse to copy the Jan 6th plants.

        1. Speaking of Jan 6, I’ve noticed some media calling the protests a “capitol siege” and lots of social media leftists screeching “insurrection”.

      2. “Emperor Palpoutine has dissolved Parliament. The last vestiges of the old Dominion have been eradicated.” …okay, just wanted to use some snark about Trudeau I saw on Twitter and mangle some old Star Wars quotes as well.

    2. I once knew a fellow who had moved to the USA from China. He taught about things digital, and had once built a computer to control a set of loom and all he had was NAND gates to do it with. He NEVER wore short sleeves. Why? Well, once upon a time he did something the Chinese government did not approve of it. He built radios. Radios that worked, and didn’t have odd gaps in coverage.

  4. I saw that they were going to take the pets of folks who they intended to arrest. My understanding is it is not uncommon for long haul truckers to have cats or small dogs for company in their cabs as they travel. That they would do this is just unbelievable, it’s like something you’d expect from a Republic serial villain or some over the top comic book villain like the Joker. Come on even Ming the Merciless would think twice about this and Blofeld and Dr. Evil have their own cats…

    1. At least in the US, it’s standard when you arrest someone.

      It became standard because in those situations where you arrest the humans, and don’t have someone take care of the animals, they tend to die in rather horrible ways.

      Similar to how illegals crossing from Mexico don’t have their kids put in to jail with them, but it’s not like you can just leave them.

    2. Any cat or dog killed should be justification for the assassination of the Canadian PM, and each one in addition should be paid for with the life of his cabinet and party.

      1. I can just see a GIANT statue of the PM…. being forever urinated upon by a dog. A fitting tribute. And there should be yellow light, you know for artistic accuracy. Call it: Trudeau’s Legacy. Or Trudeau’s Lifted LEGacy.

        Ideally, place it where every PM hence will see it EVERY GOV’T WORKDAY, as a reminder.

        I doubt the Canadian are up to this. Though if it was Australia, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it came to, er, pass.

        1. Treaudescu about (Aboot?) 4′ with a giant (male) canine urinating upon him and a giant Feline squatting and doing same :-).

          to paraphrase an old bit “You’ll get my cat when you pry it from my cold dead hands.”

  5. I figured this was always likely. I’m just surprised that the police seem to be so unified in doing the tyrant’s work. Thin blue line, my ass. But then maybe they’re not. There’s an awful lot of enforcers out there without identifiable uniforms. Where are they from?

    Meanwhile, polls can’t be trusted, but it looks like 60% of Americans support the Canadian freedom convoy. Trudeau & co are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

    1. All Cops are presumed Bastards.

      They didn’t police their own but stood in a thin blue line. They have made their choice.

            1. So that magically means they’re not from another district?

              Or they are probably bilingual? Yeah, I get that but using individuals from a primarily French local in an English local is probably a calculated way to find the least average empathy.

            2. All the times I was in Canada, there was a lot of animosity between Quebec and the rest of the country, especially in Ontario. The impression I got was that the folk in Ontario thought the Quebecoise thought the rules didn’t apply to them, and the Quebecoise were annoyed that they didn’t MAKE the rules.

    2. I’m just surprised that the police seem to be so unified in doing the tyrant’s work.

      ???

      Literally TWO chiefs quitting, and weeks of video of cops not doing what the prog activists demanded, and they’ve been trying to drag in more people since at least last weekend.

      That is not anything resembling “unified support”.

      1. Then we can expect to see the enforcers arrested? I didn’t think so. The term is accessories.

        1. You consider EVERYONE that doesn’t do what you want to be guilty and a legitimate target who is as guilty as the worst of even completely unsupported accusations, and have for years at this point– your judgement is at least as bad as your memory, and both of them are selective and self-serving.

          1. So, every cop who isn’t directly on the line but is working today in Ottawa is fine. Do they bear no responsibility for providing effective support to the action?

            Sure, silence if innocence. That way we’ll not have another group pop up as fast as dandelions for the next would-be dictator and there is always a next would-be dictator.

            At some point, the boys on a given force have to accept they either declare openly they are not carrying out the oppression or even covering slots so people who will knock heads can go or be presumed to support the action.

            Blue block is a lot like black bloc in that sense. We don’t allow the cover protestors working to make those who commit violence harder to identify to claim innocence. We shouldn’t let cops covering for those willing to be violent enforcers of tyranny claim innocence either.

            1. You know, the twit that tried that “so what you’re saying” thing on Peterson was a lot prettier.

              You don’t want to bother reading what’s there in black and white, I’m not going to bother trying to drag you through it yet again.

              The cheap knockoff of the progs shtick is stale.

              1. Yeah, that’s what I thought.

                And that’s why I don’t believe we can win.

                Most of us don’t have the stomach to even admit, much less do, the level of blood letting needed. I mean, everyone knows a good cop/Democrat whatever.

                As for ” consider EVERYONE that doesn’t do what you want to be guilty and a legitimate target who is as guilty as the worst of even completely unsupported accusations” I don’t consider them as guilty, but I do realize when the actions cross a certain line degrees of guilt lose relevance in the practical work of securing against those actions for a decent amount of time.

                Germany was denazified for a reason and the reason was to ensure circa 1960 the lukewarm supporters who had accepted 1934-1945 wouldn’t accept a round two. We are now approaching the line with the police departments in a lot of jurisdictions becoming active partisan political enforcers that if we decide we don’t like that a complete and total purge will be required. Will not need the same level of punishment? No, but none can escape any even if the lowest level was “You were a willing officer reporting for duty on the day of the atrocity despite signs it would happen for weeks. You can no longer be in any position of trust for the government or a private company. You may still be a janitor.”

                If you aren’t willing to do that, don’t bother to remove the tyrants. They’ll recycle too fast and the next generation of stormtroopers will figure the punishments weren’t that bad.

                1. Yeah, that’s what I thought.

                  Don’t flatter yourself. You quit thinking days ago, I’m just done wasting my time trying to pull you out of it.

                    1. Herb, don’t confuse her with universal Hun opinion. Your observations and insights are valuable, and I hope you will reconsider leaving.

                    2. Dude.
                      Are you seriously flouncing?
                      That’s just being ridiculous.

                      I mostly agree with you. “Silence gives assent” is baseline common law.
                      Every policeman who did not speak up against this, is guilty.
                      And knows that they’re guilty.
                      May it haunt their sleepless nights, and should they not repent, may Satan sodomize them for all eternity.

                      I wasn’t comfortable with ACAB.
                      But neither was I comfortable with “back the blue”. I’ve been threatened by thugs with badges. Several times. There are serious reforms that need to be made, and destroying the “thin blue line” tops the list.

                2. Herb,

                  Gotta tell you, man, she’s right. You’re not thinking right now, you’re emoting. When you said “So, every cop who isn’t directly on the line but is working today in Ottawa is fine,” that was not what Foxfier said, and if you were thinking straight, you’d realize it. But you’re angry, and justifiably so — it’s just that you’re lashing out at the wrong targets right now, because they’re the only targets in sight.

                  Take a break, sleep on it, and re-read this exchange again tomorrow, or maybe next week if it takes you that long to cool down. I think when you do re-read it, you’ll realize that you’ve been firing at friendly targets today.

                  Seriously. Get some rest. It’s not just important for physical health, it’s important for emotional health too.

                  1. More important, in my opinion; we all ain’t gonna agree on everything, on every point, One can stand , and fall,alone on principle, or stand, tall, all together, and be invincible. .

                    1. I think Herb probably had just seen the footage of the little old lady with the walker getting trampled on purpose by the four mounted police.

                      It takes effort to make a horse trample a human, and they did a piaffe on top of that woman. The streamers had overhead video as well as side video.

                    2. >> “getting trampled on purpose by the four mounted police.”

                      Hang on, I hadn’t heard this part. I’d assumed it was one cop trampling her on accident. You’re saying FOUR separate cops targeted her on purpose? And there’s footage clearly proving this?

                    3. Not sure what he’s saying, but the video from two different angles shows the mounted enforcement using that technique where the horse chest-bumps whatever is in front of them, lined up so that about the time the first horse’s ribs are past a point, the second horse’s ribs are there.

                      It’s used by trained police for small groups, but it’s a horrible idea for large, tightly packed groups, for the same reason you don’t want to have the Black Friday Sales folks up against the doors of the store. You’ll get folks smashed or trampled by other people.

                      Several horses in the technique line go by, apparently trying to make space between protesters and cops, and one of them knocks down the lady, and her walker/scooter thing.

                      Early claims were that she’d been stepped on by the horse, including a claim that her skull was smashed. (Pretty clearly from the video and the police’s “bicycle” done photograph, this wasn’t the case.)

                      She is, compared to that, alright– serious injury to her shoulder and is in the hospital.

                      I think I posted the twitter posts of two videos earlier, I’ll see if I can find them again.

                3. So, to nutshell: if you remove the tyrant without permanently demoting the henchmen, one of those henchmen will eventually become another tyrant, and now things are worse than before.

                  1. Part of the reason I think any successful effort to dislodge the Biden* Regime is going to require taking out FBI leadership early on. The underlying Deep State corruption, the violations of citizen’s rights, and the enforcement of the regime’s whims run through the FBI, particularly the Washington-based elements. Over the past few decades, presidents, legislators, and judges have tried in vain to bring them to heel for various specific misdeeds, and largely failed. They act as if they are above the law, and they are the regime’s primary enforcers.

          2. I use the standard that was enshrined at Nuremburg, and supposedly what Good Guys were trained on: if you wear the uniform, you have a duty to refuse unlawful / immoral orders, and act against those issuing them. That you don’t like that standard says more about you than me.

            1. You make accusations you cannot back up with evidence; I not only back up my claims with primary sources, but go looking into your accusations and show they are false.

              To which your stated solution is to not leave enough details for anyone to verify your claims, change the subject, and go on the attack.

              Most assuredly not the same, no matter how you keep insisting it.

          1. Shame their wasn’t anybody there with a machine gun in the right position to mow down the lot of those “Public Order Units.”

      2. Yes, true. They still found unity enough to do the evil work, though. Human nature being what it is, I guess there’ll never really be a shortage of those types.

        1. Apparently they shipped in some, and used the known Ottawa crooked cops for the rest. But yeah, it is very dubious. And I gather weird things are happening to Ottawa cops who are actually good cops.

          1. They announced to media that “it wasn’t safe” to be in the protest zone, and that any non-cops were subject to arrest. Good cops getting bad things sounds too familiar.

            TPTB have learned a few things from the 2020/1 riots. (IMHO, not what they should have learned, alas.) The police have done what they can to avoid anything recognizable on their bodies (face masks, goggles, Stay-Puft monster armor), and the tow vehicles had their logos painted over with the drivers wearing masks.

            OTOH, OPSEC isn’t going to be perfect. There aren’t a lot of big-rig tow vehicles around, and companies that are “missing” such vehicles for a few days will get some pointed questions. Whether the question is pasted to a glass bottle filled with hi-test is unknown…

            Even the police *might* get doxxed. The weaponized autists are out there, and they’ve been able to get information a lot of people thought was secret.

            1. Any time the cops try to keep the media away is a tell that they are about to break the laws of the country. That means they lose any ethical, legal, or moral right to their actions or protection. I’d love to see the Canadian populace mob those cops and execute them; then proceed to the PMs residence. Perhaps it’s time for Trudeau to decorate a lamp post.

            2. I saw a list of the tow companies participating a little while ago on patriots.win. So yeah, people can figure it out.

          2. Nitay Arbel posted on his blog about a week or two back that only about 30% of German soldiers failed to comply with orders to commit atrocities, even when the orders were clearly unlawful. The numbers who actively tried to prevent others from carrying such orders out had to be vanishingly small.

    3. From reports the truckers seem to be doing a good job getting inside the heads of the enforcers and making them realize they don’t want to be there.

    1. Of course not…disappeared like the yellow jackets in France. Can’t let the proles know other proles are resisting.

      I swear these people think The Hunger Games constitutes deep thinking and a well-run tyranny.

    2. They’ve been keeping the foreign press out of there. Fox tried to cover it, but they were turned away. CTV and CBC were the only ones allowed to cover it ‘officially’. In the meantime, Peel Police decided to ride their horses through the crowd.

      Justin Trudeau wanted his own ‘January 6th’ so badly, that when the protestors declined to be violent, he figured he’s send enforcers in. Meantime on the West Coast, 20 actual Eco-Terrorists attached a Coastal Gas Link construction site, armed with axes and flare guns, set fires and injured police last night.

  6. Freeze-dried food in #10 cans is also something to think about, especially with trucking being the object of such affection from benevolent governments. It’s good for 35 years and only needs water to make it into a surprisingly edible meal.
    And I need to refill some of the empty gas cans.

    Even doing something as basic as that can help with the feeling helpless thing because… well, it is actually doing something real about it.

      1. Sorry, Sarah. I seemed to be having some problems logging in. It would log in and I’d post a reply, but it wouldn’t show and I’d be logged out. No idea what happened.

        This morning I see it is on there twice.

        1. lying about pretty much everything beyond the weather forecast


          Um. Depending on source … I’ll double check that! (Looks out window … “Yep. It is raining.”) I mean what other profession can be correct only one third the time, or less?

    1. I don’t watch broadcast TV, but have you tried radio?

      It was even on Catholic radio, Kresta in the Afternoon was covering it.

      Try WHO-1040, or other talk radio.

    2. The most reliable source I’ve seen is Rebel News, which is a Canadian independent. Rebel News dot com
      After that, Epoch Times and Daily Wire.

    3. Don’t forget sites like smalldeadanimals (dot) com, and blazingcatfur (dot) ca (slash) convoy-reports/

      Recommended by actual Canadians!

  7. My heart is breaking for the pets. And anyone who says they shouldn’t be there, is going to get chased around the blog and hit. It was a for-real peaceful protest, and these are good people. They don’t understand evil. I do, but even I am upset.

    Of course there’s no reason for them not to be there– same as there’s no good reason for the kids to not be there, because it is AN ACTUAL PEACEFUL PROTEST.

    The supposed examples of violence that they brought out have about as evidence as, say, the claim that they got a restraining order to lock down Give Send Go.

    This is not to be confused with the warnings about “please, have alternative plans for the care of your children and pets” being statements of the obvious, since the [bad words here] are very loudly declaring that the concept of someone disagreeing with them is a threat to the nation of Canada, and the economic damage of a minor trucker protest slowing down traffic is so horrible they need to completely shut it down.

    1. Oh, for the love– Don’t even joke, but yes. I mean we were talking about son’s job applications and I heard the words coming out of my mouth: Supposing in two months you’re not taking to the hills with a kalishnakov…. And I DO wish I were joking.

    2. Drove pizza with a guy who was a kid in Poland when they cracked down on Solidarity. He remembers being angry some old guy (presumably Jaruzelski) coming on TV and interrupting cartoons.

  8. Both of Fidelito’s parents and his mother’s husband were notorious libertines. Castro’s harem of teenage girls was well known among the Cuban emigre community and little Justin seems to take after his Dad, Justin says he left West Grey school because of a disagreement about dress codes but there is the small matter of a 7 figure settlement with a strong non-disclosure agreement. Now the Canadian press being barking seals have been careful not to bring it up, much like The Hunter, but the girl seems to have been 14.

    Every f-cking time one looks at the ruling class one finds another f-cking pedo.

      1. I was never sure it wasn’t. There was no debunking, you know? Other than it wasn’t where they thought? Or they couldn’t get through.
        Because the debunking was Just “That’s a crazy conspiracy theor.” At this point, sorry, that’s not enough.

        1. They never debunked it because they created it. One of the best ways to hide wrongdoing is to set up the conditions that make calling out that wrongdoing crazy. Thus, anyone who calls out the wrongdoing is crazy. Today, in opposite world, it’s even easier. They don’t have to deal with the facts, if any, they just have to say that it’s the reds and Donald Trump.

          Pizza gate qua pizza gate is probably bunk, but the behavior and the people involved are probably true. Every time we turn over a rock, another powerful pedo jumps out arguing that the girl looked off age, and she was just a whore anyway or that they’re not a pedophile, they’re an ephebophile because the boy was 14 or some such BS. It’s the little secret they have on each other. They’re made guys who’ve made their bones. They can trust one another because they’re all done it and they have pictures.

          1. BGE I think you’re onto something. They make up an insane conspiracy and then poke holes in it as a straw man. But there’s a lot of truth lurking back there, Epstein and his underage prostitution ring, the rash of exposed pedophile types (e.g. the dude at meta/Facebook that just got bagged, BLM organizer up in Maine etc. ad nauseum). Anybody that wants to be involved constantly with children at least has to be watched like a hawk. Even in the Evangelical world youth pastors can get in a boatload of trouble even if they don’t start out to do that . Boy scout leaders, there was one here in the local town, young guy lionized for his helping youth especially from poorer nearby venues. Come to find out he was indited for 80+ crimes against > 40 boys and ultimately found guilty. Last I heard he was doing 130+ years w/o parole in Cedar Point Junction, constantly in solitary because if he was let out in the general prison populace his life expectancy would be in low hours. Heck he was assaulted twice in county jail while awaiting trial one of those put him in a local hospital for a week due to near death by strangulation.I suspect at this point he probably wishes the assailant had finished.

    1. I’ve been trying to find a source on that pedo rumor- nothing seems to have panned out, can you point me?

      1. The settlement definitely exists, it’s sealed but it’s existence isn’t It’s 7 figures. What else is out there is in the fringe media, hah, but you can find bits of it in the archives. The official story is that she was 17, he wasn’t much older and depressed because of the death of his mother’s husband and the age of consent in Canada was 14 at the time, so no crime. You can find that story around, as I said it’s public record. The lie is that the girl was 14, possibly 13. Or 17, but the terms of the non disclosure are, evidently — I haven’t seen them, awesome,

        It could all be BS, but the settlement exists and Fidelito does seem to have been schtupping his students. That’s always a power thing and whether she was 14 or 17 doesn’t change that he was in authority over her and abused that authority.

        1. Her father apparently was not completely covered by the NDA, and he said she was under 14 the entire time, for a span of two years. But the province refused to prosecute.

  9. I would not have brought my kids there *only* because I have no illusions about governments’ willingness to use force to stamp out dissent. Having been brought up learning (from parents) that there is no truth in Pravda and no news in Izvestia, and “you will be quiet outside the house, if you don’t want us to come to a bad end” has taught me to distrust governments in general, not just the overtly socialist ones. A dozen years ago I used to see myself as cynical. I don’t anymore. Now I view myself as prepared.

    However, most Americans and Canadians are decent people who grew up believing that their government is of the people, by the people and for the people. They would not, even in 2022, believe that their own government to treat them as terrorists merely for participating in a completely peaceful protest. Maybe rationally, they would, but not in their hearts.

    So yes, knowing that they are going to be there for longer than a couple of days, they would bring their kids or pets with them. Plus, what better way to teach them (kids, not pets) civics, if not from the front row seat?
    Not to mention that it is not always easy to find somebody to take care of kids and pets for weeks on end.

    1. A dozen years ago I used to see myself as cynical.

      I keep saying the thing that has really destroyed my sanity the past two years is every time I get more cynical reality quickly proves I’m still not cynical enough.

      How cynical? At this point finding out ATH was an FBI honeypot to identify people to round-up wouldn’t leave me even shocked. I would be devastated but not shocked. As it is, I presume at least one regular commenter has to be an FBI informant. No, I don’t have anyone in mind. I just assume we’ve reached the Stasi version of “when three or more of you gather one is a part informant”.

      1. Trust me, it’s not. Or at least not that I know.
        There is an FBI agent. I don’t know who it is currently, but there has been one all along.
        I understand some were — coff — subverted

        1. Given the comment was here, I probably should have used Instapundit instead but I think the point is still clear.

          The past two years have shattered any trust I’m willing to extend. I already had trust issues but after all this? Yeah, assume everyone is an enemy and just hang out with the ones who are nice to you for now.

          1. Indeed. I know and love a whole lot of liberals and even lefties, but the past two years of “all X should just die” and “all Y should not be allowed to vote” and “all Z should be locked up” when they know perfectly well that I am some variety of X, Y, and/or Z has been … wearing.

            I’m chomping at the bit to get back into society* because otherwise I’ll go insane, but it’s hard knowing that I have to be wary of literally everyone, including my relatives and possibly even my family.

            * (turns out King County is exercising its local privilege and keeping the indoor mask mandate until “circumstances change”, so who knows when that will be)

            1. Yep, seeing otherwise normal and friendly people who happen to have left-wing beliefs switching over to rage-filled monsters saying things like that without a second thought has always been unnerving for me too. I hate that any of us have to put so much weight on politics when it comes to our various relationships these days but with the way things are it really is basic self-preservation anymore.

              1. This reminds me of a YouTube video from a year or so back that I was watching the other day, where a guy was hiking down an abandoned rail line through the Jersey Meadows wearing a mask. My first thought was “Dude, you’re outside. You don’t need that wear a mask, even with the crazy restrictions Jersey had!” About thirty seconds into the video the guy stops and addresses the camera and says something like “You may be wondering about the mask.. I had it with me because of COVID, and then I started smelling this horrible stench, so I put it on. It helps a little.” I laughed. We always drove through that part of New Jersey with the car A/C on recirculate due to frequent odors, so I could sympathize with the poor guy.

              2. “People who X shouldn’t be allowed to breed.”

                Or “there should be a license to have children, and take them away if there’s more than three.”

                That “Steps to genocide” list is pretty terrifyingly familiar, yes.

                1. Flyover County looks better and better every day. Progs tend to leave town in a huff, and generally with the DLTDHYIYAOYWO treatment. IIRC, I’ve seen one pro-Biden bumper sticker here since early 2020.

                  West side BLMifa tried a “mostly peaceful” demonstration and were outgunned. They tried burnout, with mixed success. Due to 3S, percentages are unknown.

                  So long as they don’t have nukes, we’re OK.

                  1. Iowa’s got some folks who definitely moved here from places that can’t drive, but Iowa police actually enforce traffic laws like “signal” and “causing a hazard,” so it’ll cure.

                    Lot of folks are …. offended is as close as I can describe it, at the loony left’s antics.

              3. Yeah. I have dear friends in L.A. who are “progressives” and points left.

                They do not have my current address.

                This makes me sad, but observed behavior of the mass-of-left has eroded all trust of any who espouse those positions, however innocent otherwise.

                1. While I’m slowly reducing contact with even the friendly ones I know, especially the ones that I’ve seen that rage switch in, and have been vague about my move plans with them.

                2. We use a drop point in the city for mail and most packages. Not many entities have our physical address. Folks who have visited us are either not inclined or have been asked not to share the address.

              4. I guess it’s an example of the “Aliens Among Us” article from earlier this week in action.

                I tend to depict a lot of progs as vat-grown drones whom have talking points downloaded straight into their neural clusters from some hivemind, since they tend to act strangely similar. A bit dehumanizing, I guess, though I can forgive an automaton following it’s programming. A human who chooses to act in that manner is another (quite evil) thing, so maybe I fabricate that fantasy because I’m finding excuses to not kill a bunch of folk (or try clumsily and likely fail spectacularly) wholesale. (Which, as Sarah pointed out, would give their masters exactly what they want to convince non-progs to support our own eradication.)

                Plus I think it irritates the drones when I tsk at the limitations of their programming with sorrow instead of treating them seriously. Maybe it’ll goad them into acting rashly. 😉

            2. If you think this is new, you must not have spent any time “passing.”
              I saw kindly old people salivate at the thought of “Earth changes” or “pandemics” killing most of the world population, because it was the RIGHT thing to happen.

              1. I’ve been “passing” most of my adult life. “Closeted” is really more like it.

                The lefty wishes for human liquidations have gone from the abstract to the very specific and personal, and have gotten a lot more vehement since 2016. (I don’t remember the ’60s or early ’70s, so maybe they were a lot more bloodthirsty then.)

                1. In general at least from what I saw of the 60’s and 70’s most of the folks were too stoned or busy draft dodging (legally or otherwise) to be particularly violent. Not to say there weren’t patches of Radically nasty groups (SDS, folks like the Symbianese Liberation army etc.) Sadly somewhere in the late ’80s amd into the ’90s those folks became the mentors and controllers of the up and coming democrats for the 2000’s (E.G. OBumbles). That part of the world Owns the democrat progressive caucus which is almost 1/2 of the democrat house seats. The slightly Right of center (or in some cases slightly left) democrats of the Blue dogs were chased out in the 90’s when the lost the house massively in a Clinton mid term. They’re now working on purging anyone else with 2 brain cells to rub together and the inability to doublethink properly. With screwing part of their traditional base (blue collar labor, Unionized gov workers like police and fire) they are skating towards holding ONLY the cities and the high density bedroom suburbs around them. With Skillfull gerrymandering they may hold sway in blue states for quite a while and swing the house from time to time but its gonna get MUCH harder to hold the Senate and take the the presidency without even more flagrant manipulation of vote counting. If we’re smart we’ll help the AOC club take out the vaguely less insane demoncrats as they seem to have Obummer’s Mierdas touch with candidates.

              2. Being younger does it, too.

                “It’s just things people say,” and if you challenge them, it’s a joke, JEEZE, why are you always jumping down my throat– people don’t freaking *think* about what they’re saying.

                Some of them internalize it, too. (As you know, from having passed and knowing what it can do to you to say things because it’s what Everyone Says.)

            3. It’s probably the, “All x deserve….except you, you’re different,” thing. I hope so, anyway.

                1. Do they realize they’re effectively saying “Wow I didn’t know (banned ethnic slur of some sort) were that (smart/capable/Nice)”? Are they that weak brained and so averse to introspection? Come on I’m an engineer with a tendency to aspergers and very poor grasp of social cues and graces and I can see that without thinking twice. It’s also like saying “I have lots of friends who are (banned ethnic slur)”

                  1. Are they that weak brained and so averse to introspection?

                    They are trained to not think that way– they are Good People, so can’t be Like That.

                    That’s WHY they are opposed to objective standards, evidence, etc.

                    They’re also the folks who will say that someone MUST be a racist, because they support X policy, even when they are objectively not racist or are a member of the group that they are supposedly racist against.

        2. Surely we need to do more if this blog only rates one FBI agent. We’re not tying up enough of their resources.

      2. Funny story, Re: American and Canadian police forces.

        To different degrees, professional policing in both countries was influenced by Peel’s ideas in the UK. Which was a deliberate attempt to implement policing in a way compatible with a free people, but inspired by the French example.

        What was the French example? Well, it doesn’t seem to have been very compatible with a free people.

        The Lieutenant of Paris bragged that wherever three or more Parisians met, one was a police informant.

        I’m usually a little willing to discuss whether professional police forces are an inherently sucky concept. If they are, the problem to which they are an answer is somewhat sucky. There are alternatives to professional police forces, and the ones I know about have some non trivial costs.

        I’m making no comment about current events.

      3. I keep running into this too. No matter how cynical/paranoid I get there always seems to be another layer to the damn onion. I miss the naive and gullible me of three years ago 😦

      4. “every time I get more cynical reality quickly proves I’m still not cynical enough.”

        *Fistbump of solidarity*

        On the one hand, the fact that I went through something very similar with relatives gives me the mental space to say, “Yeah, expected as much.”

        OTOH hitting it in completely unrelated people makes the black dog circle very, very close.

        1. We seldom discuss politics with family (the closest of which live too far away for face-to-face communication), and have found it best to not discuss politics. We have a good idea of the viewpoint of some of the relatives, but where it’s unknown, we skip that topic unless they bring it up.

          It makes for some interesting phone calls, though we do have a small supply of red pills for use when appropriate.

            1. One is conservative, but has other traits that make him persona non grata at Chez RC. He doesn’t know our physical address and the person who does know has been asked to not divulge it. He had plenty of time to get off the bullseye where he lives, but didn’t. When it goes from “won’t” to “can’t:, he can contemplate the error of his ways.

      5. An observation I made in the comments at Insty back when Obama was still in office was that I had to keep reminding myself that I wasn’t wandering into tinfoil hat territory. All of that crazy crap really was taking place.

        Bad people with no compunctions follow power like moths to a flame. It’s human nature. But 1989 really did happen. And it can happen again if it needs to.

      6. I was in the Russian wild wild east and repeated that joke to 3 Russians I was with on the Lena River. Two of them looked rather uncomfortably at the third who worked for Intourist.

    2. My mom took me to much more dangerous situations. She explained, and trusted me to make a decision. Yes, I almost got killed a few times, but seriously, I almost got killed while studying in a public place. So….

      1. Interesting how it happens.
        My version of that also happened with my mom. It was the August 91 coup against Gorby and Yeltsin by the Old Guard, and the previous night those three boys had been crushed by tanks (I don’t remember how we found out. Either by phone from somebody or from BBC Russian Service).
        So my mom and I (a college student at the time) made some sandwiches and a thermos of tea and went to join the chain of people surrounding the Russian Parliament where IIRC Yeltsin was hiding out. We spent the night there fully expecting the tanks or the Airborne to roll in, but they never did.

        Looking back at it, it wasn’t anything heroic. For me it was two-fold: 1) I wanted to be able to look at myself in the mirror without being ashamed and 2) I wanted to eventually be able to get the hell out of that place, and I knew that if the coup succeeded, they would have dropped the Iron Curtain again.

  10. The darkness closes
    In empty days
    A single candle
    Is still ablaze.

    The darkness howls
    And swells its might
    And shatters against
    That tiny light.

    Those lost deep in
    That deadly dark
    See the clash,
    Hope in the spark.

    The dark asails
    Again and yet again
    And from that light
    Another begins.

    The dark smothers
    All it sees
    But a single light
    Brings it to its knees.

  11. Just a suggestion, but I’ve really liked the furniture I got from Wayfair.com. Generally affordable, while also being attractive.

      1. Try the Amish. I don’t know what the shipping might be but we’ve bought several bookcases from Peaceful Valley furniture in Strasburg, PA. The unfinished pine bookcases are good quality at good prices. Cheaper than IKEA and made from actual wood. Nice people too.

        The website is fairly cranky.

          1. They might ship or you might be too far, don’t know. I’ve recently paid about $120 for a 72×30 unfinished pine case. bit of milk paint and shellack and you’re done. Raw materials from the big box would cost me more than that. Cheaper than IKEA too.

            1. When we moved, the San Jose Home Depot had modular shelves that used pins and tenons to hold it together. Never saw the like up here, but it is decent pine, took Watco oil like a champ, and is still holding the record collection. I have no idea of the vendor. The wide pieces are made of 3″ or so strips joined together. Strong enough.

              OTOH, the office bookshelves are MDF covered by plastic “veneer”, made by Sauder and bought from Staples. Not pretty, but they still work (bought them in ’03).

      2. Pressboard is dirt cheap, but furniture made from it isn’t, for some reason.

        For bookshelves, I’ve had much better luck with antique stores, charity second hand stores, and various flavors of classifieds.
        (Or making them myself, but I have a tendency to slip into overkill mode.)

      3. I mentioned earlier cinder block & 2X12s. OK fine for a college kid.

        I do have over 9 running feet of 2X8’s as book shelves nailed together and stained. Still don’t look half bad after 50 years.

          1. This was years after college, just built of 2X8s, no cinder blocks involved. I’ve over 20 running feet of 2X6 and probably at least double that of 1 by book shelves for soft cover, etc., but the stained 2X8 shelving is down right, in my opinion, purdy. ;-).

            1. I did 2x6s (I think)– only 10 foot of them, but double-deep, used the prettiest framing lumber I could find at Menard’s and it looks great… but the price is nearly doubled, now, and I couldn’t find a single board that wasn’t ugly in a “huge gouges” or “oops, there’s the side of the log” manner that could be worked around.

    1. I’ve had terrible dealings with Wayfair. They don’t deliver on time, then they deliver broken furniture, then they take months to send a replacement – to the wrong STATE, then I finally get what I ordered. Never again.

  12. Interestingly, the Toronto Sun has looked at the official justification for those asset seizures in Canada, and found they’re largely based on TV press reports, based in turn on the (illegal?) data hack of GoFundMe…

    From: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-liberals-cite-cbc-analysis-to-justify-freezing-bank-accounts
    Via: https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/02/17/radical-leftist-pm-uses-radical-leftist-government-funded-media-to-justify-power-grab/

    FUREY: Liberals cite CBC ‘analysis’ to justify freezing bank accounts

    Anthony Furey
    Feb 17, 2022

    The incredible powers that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has given his government to freeze people’s bank accounts is based on their reliance on “analysis” from the CBC.

    On Thursday, Deputy PM and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland confirmed that banks had begun complying with the government’s orders and were freezing people’s accounts.

    “The consequences are real and they will bite,” Freeland said.

    While Freeland made it sound as if only truckers with big rigs would be targeted, the rules stipulate the bank freezes can apply to anyone “directly or indirectly” involved in the protests.

    While constitutional law experts and civil liberties groups have said the threshold has not been met for the government to invoke the Act, the 14-page document the Liberals offered up presents their own more formal argument to back them up. The actual facts presented are shockingly thin and are mostly a regurgitation of online news stories.

    […]

    The Act, according to the government, “requires a comprehensive list of financial service providers to determine whether any of the property in their possession or control belong to protesters participating in the illegal blockades and to cease dealing with those protesters.”

    This means that anyone associated with the protests could conceivably see their banking — including mortgages — revoked.

    As if that in itself isn’t shocking enough, this conclusion wasn’t arrived at after detailed study by anyone in the Ministry of Finance or Public Safety Canada. Instead, the only evidence they offer is “the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s February 14, 2022 analysis of the data” of the GiveSendGo.com fundraisers list that was hacked and released publicly.

    […]

    That’s it. No departmental reports underlying this assessment. No RCMP intel. Nothing except a story put together by three CBC reporters.

    It’s one thing for the Liberal government to rely on the CBC for their opposition research. Now it looks like they’re farming out their security briefings to them.

    The whole thing is an unjustifiable mess.

    Trudeau has made one of the most momentous decisions in Canadian politics in decades and the entire rationale for it is a sloppy document ripped from Liberal-friendly media.

    [***end***]

    Do I really need to add that if this is what they’re basing their whole asset-freeze scheme on… there really are no safeguards, for anyone?

    Say, if they’re using the same non-standards for exactly who gets the “bite”..?

    In other words, the idea that a full-scale bank run is not the only sensible, survival-oriented option for ordinary Canadians (but, devil take the hindmost)… keeps getting nicely and progressively debunked by their own statements. On and on.

    And isn’t that a genuine, not an exaggerated, national-security threat?

    Or maybe, just maybe, “it’s not a bug, it’s a feature.”

    1. As of a couple of days ago, their intel guys were publicly saying there wasn’t evidence of a claimed “uptick” in suspicious transactions.

      So they probably don’t have as strong of a grasp there as they’d like.

  13. Office furniture: Check for ‘used office furniture’ in your area or nearest major city. I’ve gotten great pieces for next to nothing (mahogany barrister bookcases and sturdy old steel file cabinets). The only thing you have to be sure is top notch is the chair, for the sake of your back, so hit an office place like Depot and sit in a few, then shop. I finally bought one off Amazon because it was so much cheaper (and the color – I liked the color – and one needs joy). I plan to spend a lot of time with my critters, immediate family and sewing/crafting until I can begin starting seeds. As to the rest of it, preaching to the choir.

      1. Any local colleges? They can attract thrift stores and it’s surprising what people throw out or donate.
        At least one of our old bookshelves came from beside a dumpster.

      2. And estate sales. You never know, someone local may not need those oak shelves any more and the estate may be ready to dispose of them via bid.

        1. I’ve been having the weirdest success with dressers.

          They’re…basically bookshelves. But you browse by pulling the drawer out.

          1. Yes! This actually works… especially with paperbacks. Very high books to front-length ratio.

          2. If we had to move out of this house, almost all the furniture I’d keep would be the dressers.

            They’re mostly plywood, but I’m really proud of how nice they turned out. Though the nicest was my Nana’s dresser, which was some unusual wood (like peach, who makes a piece of furniture out of peach?) I had to paint it because of a piece repair, but I did those paint coats over a series of months, sanding in between each, and I love running my fingers over it.

            It doesn’t match a single other piece of furniture in my house. I don’t care.

      3. If anyone one of you readers out there is… so very flush with disposable income and actually *wants* to pay thousands for a bookshelf, may I ask that you contact me first? Or at the very least a reputable carpenter in your area (might be a better idea, they’d be closer)?

        Banging together a good quality custom set of bookshelves with a nice finish takes skill, but I assure you, such folk would gladly take your money and provide you with a *far* superior product to a rickety set of pressboard sadness.

          1. Paid $35 each for 6′ tall x4′ wide office cases that look like mahogany – used office furniture. And deep – I can put a banker box on them (sideways) without a lot of overhang. Lined my craft/sewing room.

          2. The price of finished lumber is still bloody ridiculous, but 10k? That’s a *lot* of wood. A couple of years ago you could probably have done it for a tenth of that. There’s got to be someone nearby that would do it, though. My old set was made of cheap blond wood and knotty planks, but the faces are clean and the finish is nice. Hope your library room comes together well, and soon. A room full of books is a happy thing, a calming thing.

            1. Have you thought about glass shelves? Many years ago I lined my living room for not-too-much. I have no idea of what they go for now or if you like the look though.

              1. I’ve seen glass shelving and some of them are very nice. However, “glass shelving” and “insane cat” do not well go together, unfortunately. Nastycat the feline natural disaster shares at least this much with the common infantryman: He can break damned near *anything.* And often will, given the opportunity. Nastycat is very much NotMyCat, but he visits often with the other three. No item on a flat surface under a certain weight limit is safe when the foursome decide the feline parkour championship race/zoomies is on.

                Thus, wood shelving.

          3. I was going to question your $10k, but I just checked local lumber prices & to re-shelf my, roughly, 40X30. foot living room would cost around $15k just for the 2X8s.

          4. Don’t know if you are anywhere near a farm/ranch supply store, but down here in FL I bought (true)1″ X6″ X 16′ corral boards and built 18′ X8′ high book/DVD/VHS shelving putting eight four foot shelves in each section. That’s about 128 feet of shelving at a real cost of about $5 to $6 per shelf .

          5. That reminds me: how well did you make out on the sale of the Colorado house? Between that and whatever’s left from your GoFundMe I’m hoping you’re financially secure for a while.

            1. um…. not as well as we hoped, because house had issues right up to the end. BUT we’re okay enough. Just can’t pay off the mortgage. We’re trying to prepare and do the things the house needs (but sarah. built in shelves? Well, right now we have 200 book boxes in temperature controlled storage. that’s spendy) for the next two to six years. Sigh.

      4. You might see if a local school woodshop is looking for projects for students to do. Our high school does that and they have made everything from raised garden beds for the elderly to cabins for a local church camp.

        They only charge for materials and the rest is considered a learning opportunity for them.

        They have really done some amazing things. The church camp cabins had bible verses engraved into the wall boards and the kids did such a great job you would have never guessed they were made by anything other than master craftspeople.

    1. Sadly, rather regional and timing dependent– if I had stupid money, right now, I’d be doing trips into “Move Away” areas and loading up on nice furniture to drag to destination points. People tend to get rid of their shelving when they move. (sometimes it’s because the stuff can’t survive a move, sometimes it’s because that’s what takes up space when stuff is boxed)

      Right now in Iowa, besides the housing costs, you can tell that folks are moving in because there’s not even DVD shelving available. (Works well for paperback books and such.) You can get limited supplies at local walmarts, but pretty much have to order online and have it shipped to your house.

        1. Might be amused by this– I listen to a lot of housing podcasts, was trying a new one, and deleted it after one episode.

          The guy was wondering how he managed to move to places like twice as big as his prior house, but every time when they were moved the house was full and so was the garage.

          … eventually you figure out that they’d put all the bulky furniture out on the curb. You know, all the storage. :facepalm:

            1. Now imagine someone who doesn’t even think about moving them, just goes “this takes up a lot of space! Get rid of!

              You’re as bad as I am, at the very least, when it comes to “but I can use this!”– and this guy is an EXPERT, but can’t figure out “gosh, this keep happening.”

  14. Interestingly, the Toronto Sun has looked at the official justification for the asset seizures in Canada, and found they’re largely based on TV press reports, based in turn on the (illegal?) data hack of GoFundMe…

    From: torontosun dot com slash opinion/columnists/furey-liberals-cite-cbc-analysis-to-justify-freezing-bank-accounts
    Via: smalldeadanimals dot com slash 2022/02/17/radical-leftist-pm-uses-radical-leftist-government-funded-media-to-justify-power-grab/

    [And, Sarah, please ignore near-identical post with non-“sanitized” Web addresses]

    FUREY: Liberals cite CBC ‘analysis’ to justify freezing bank accounts

    Anthony Furey
    Feb 17, 2022

    The incredible powers that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has given his government to freeze people’s bank accounts is based on their reliance on “analysis” from the CBC.

    On Thursday, Deputy PM and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland confirmed that banks had begun complying with the government’s orders and were freezing people’s accounts.

    “The consequences are real and they will bite,” Freeland said.

    While Freeland made it sound as if only truckers with big rigs would be targeted, the rules stipulate the bank freezes can apply to anyone “directly or indirectly” involved in the protests.

    While constitutional law experts and civil liberties groups have said the threshold has not been met for the government to invoke the Act, the 14-page document the Liberals offered up presents their own more formal argument to back them up. The actual facts presented are shockingly thin and are mostly a regurgitation of online news stories.

    […]

    The Act, according to the government, “requires a comprehensive list of financial service providers to determine whether any of the property in their possession or control belong to protesters participating in the illegal blockades and to cease dealing with those protesters.”

    This means that anyone associated with the protests could conceivably see their banking — including mortgages — revoked.

    As if that in itself isn’t shocking enough, this conclusion wasn’t arrived at after detailed study by anyone in the Ministry of Finance or Public Safety Canada. Instead, the only evidence they offer is “the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s February 14, 2022 analysis of the data” of the GiveSendGo.com fundraisers list that was hacked and released publicly.

    […]

    That’s it. No departmental reports underlying this assessment. No RCMP intel. Nothing except a story put together by three CBC reporters.

    It’s one thing for the Liberal government to rely on the CBC for their opposition research. Now it looks like they’re farming out their security briefings to them.

    The whole thing is an unjustifiable mess.

    Trudeau has made one of the most momentous decisions in Canadian politics in decades and the entire rationale for it is a sloppy document ripped from Liberal-friendly media.

    [***end***]

    Do I really need to add that if this is what they’re basing their whole asset-freeze scheme on… there really are no safeguards, for anyone?

    Say, if they’re using the very same non-standards to decide who gets the “bite”..?

    In other words, the idea that a full-scale bank run is not the only sensible, survival-oriented option for ordinary Canadians (but, devil take the hindmost)… keeps getting nicely and progressively debunked by their own statements. On and on.

    And isn’t that a genuine, not an exaggerated, national-security threat?

    But maybe, just maybe, “that’s not a bug, that’s a feature.”

    1. “they’re largely based on TV press reports, based in turn on the (illegal?) data hack of GoFundMe…”

      So the same tactics used to drag Trump and his Administration into Russia, Russia, Russia, where the process could be used as punishment.

  15. The evangelical radio stations are talking about what to do in hard times. Practical advice for therein. From folks who have BTDT. Among that is, make your close friend groups now. Don’t advertise them outside that circle. Have emergency funds and such to support that group…should have started yesterday, start today, find four friends and meet for coffee once a week or something…

    1. The thing to understand, honestly, is that THEY CAN’T WIN. No, they really can’t. Yes, a lot of good people will die. BUT THEY CAN’T WIN. This is a worldwide revolt by the people who make the economy WORK. THere’s only one way it ends.
      BUT if the working people stop for a week or two? We won’t recover for years. I’m depressed at the waste, and at the brave people who will lose their lives.
      But the bad guys have already lost You have to look at the economics, and you’ll see it.

      1. You are right as far as you go. But if the little socialists, the church secretaries, the pastors, the librarians etc. are not dealt with we will be right back here in thirty to fifty years.

      2. I completely agree. It’s probably why I feel frustrated. The Left doesn’t have a plan that extends farther than being in charge. But in charge of what? Keeping people safe? Being prudent with finances? Keeping foreign friends close and adversaries at bay? It’s a giant fail on all of those. They absolutely must stop and unfortunately they’re going to have to MADE to stop.

        I probably don’t fit in with the regular group here for a lot of reasons and a big one is a somewhat relaxed attitude towards what’s acceptable to achieve a peaceful end. I might eventually agree with the voices of sanity here, but I’m very open to entertaining nonstandard options. I don’t like it when people rule out certain options because then “we become just like them.” I am totally fine with those options. It’s something the other side does, so they understand its effectiveness and they know why it’s being done to them. It’s a lot better than being politely dead.

  16. The optics are so bad on this jack booted thuggery that I think this will bring the Trudeau administration down. The videos are leaking out, and they show peaceful citizens being tackled to the ground by hideously dressed Stasi. The truckers are going to lose this battle, and I think they’re going to win the war. God speed, brave people.

    1. I *hope* it will bring Trudeau down. The conservative party in Canada seems even more ineffective than the Republicans

      1. Appears to be someone trying to manipulate the protest.

        When looking for videos– look for “old lady with walker” or “protester trampled” and “bike thrown at horse.”

        The gal looks to be grandmother aged, with one of those non-motorized mobility scooters/walkers (possibly the sort you see instead of crutches) and she gets knocked over by the horses (doesn’t appear to be stepped on) and then people walk over her also without stepping on her, so thank God not trampled, though since she’s got some sort of a scooter walker she probably didn’t “Get up and walk away” as some sources claim.

        The police twitter had a photograph from the air identifying the scooter as a bike, and saying the horses had tripped when someone threw it at them; I think the horse was trying to avoid the walker-thing after he’d knocked the lady over, given the..ah… “accuracy” of identifying that thing as a bike.

        (people-trampling is what worries me– shoving crowds like that is how you get deaths like Black Friday situations, crowd pressure IS NOT SAFE)

        1. There’s some other footage from ground level where it looks like the guy in brown near her wasn’t knocked down accidentally. He was beaten to the ground by the cops when he tried to go to her assistance.

          1. Got a place with the video still up up? Both angles I saw had a guy in possibly-brown very obviously trying to keep her from getting hurt by being pushed over by the horses, with a jarring motion/visual distortion that may have been the horse discovering there was a walker under his hind feet and doing an unexpected motion– the only unmounted cops were on the far side of the line, giving horse butts the respect they require from those who like having teeth.

            If there was a cop in front of the horse line, that might explain the surging forward.

  17. Between this crap, the work crap (which is actually the least stressful bit now, but involves coming to the office and watching someone else do the job I’ve done for nearly a decade) and the family crap – I’m feeling what one coworker calls, “slammed.”

      1. Okay, lady – you used to live within a couple of miles of me. We don’t KNOW when Spring arrives in CO until July – sometimes later. We see this in retrospect, okay? You go with the weather you have, just like you go with the information you have. It isn’t wishful thinking. It’s just a wish.

    1. This is reminding me of how I felt after the stolen election. A sense of doom and foreboding: the sword hanging over our heads…

  18. I just asked my credit union branch manager whether I should withdraw my money and put it under my bed, or if there was any protection against the government seizing my assets for expressing sympathy online for the Canadian truckers. She said they would comply with a court order, but she had no idea what is going on in Canada.

    Will ask my other banker tomorrow. Maybe we can preemptively scare them a little bit.

    1. Yes, they can freeze accounts, and size the cash as “crime money”, they press the charge on the property, claiming that it is not you, and not a person, thus without due process rights.

      You prove otherwise than ” crime”, you get it back. I guarantee the cost to do so exceeds the value, as they ensure that outcome.

      They also do this to folks with a fat stash of cash, same reasoning.

      ” civil asset forfeiture”

      Which most folks didn’t gripe about then it was being gone to “druggies” and “johns”. And now others get to understand the poor choice it was not to nix that obscenity early.

      So what to do? 1) Don’t put all your assets in one bucket. Be difficult. 2) accept that some SOB can ” legally” take all your stuff and just might. 3) have a plan for how to acquire necessities starting from zero.

      I have been broke. You can survive it and thrive. Don’t quit. Accept that Dookie occurs. Plan to adapt. And plan “what next?”

      1. Your understanding of civil asset forfeiture is inaccurate, drawing on at least two federal variations and I would guess some of the outdated (as in “they cannot do that anymore” not “old fashioned”) programs from some states.

        There’s more at the link, but here’s a basic run-down of the federal variations; they grew out of smuggling law:
        There are two types of forfeiture: judicial and non-judicial (also known as administrative forfeiture).

        DEA starts the administrative forfeiture process by mailing notice letters to interested parties and advertising the seized property on the Internet.

        The U.S. Attorney’s Office begins the judicial forfeiture process by filing either a civil complaint against the property (e.g., United States v. $150,000 U.S. Currency) or bringing criminal charges against a party (e.g., United States v. John Smith).

        Administrative Forfeiture is the process by which DEA processes the forfeiture without going to court. Administrative Forfeiture will be used to forfeit property unless (1) by law the property has to be forfeited judicially or (2) a party files a valid claim, which changes the administrative forfeiture into a judicial forfeiture.

        A federal judge must forfeit real estate and most property valued over $500,000, with some exceptions.

        *Criminal forfeiture is included as part of a defendant’s criminal prosecution. If the defendant is convicted or has a plea agreement, the court may forfeit the property.

        *Civil forfeiture is a proceeding brought against the property itself. The government must prove that the property is connected to a crime, but a criminal conviction is not required. It is very similar to all other lawsuits involving property in the U.S., and allows the government to forfeit property when the property owner is unknown or unavailable.
        https://www.dea.gov/operations/asset-forfeiture

        1. As usual, StasiFurry is telling less than half of the truth.

          “(2) a party files a valid claim, which changes the administrative forfeiture into a judicial forfeiture.”

          The “party filing a valid claim” is the person who has not been arrested, indicted, or convicted before the theft from them occurs. That means they have to ask for “permission to intervene”, which can be denied. Second, because they have to file the claim, they are NOT entitled to representation, as they “haven’t been charged”, which means they have to pay all the legal fees, court costs, and arrange for legal representation at their own expense. No Public Defender for YOU! They aren’t even entitled to official notice that the stolen goods are being fenced.

          1. The party filing the valid claim was me, you false-witness fabulist, when the drug dealer running a theft ring on the side has MY STOLEN TIRE ON HIS CAR.

            Because they had reason to believe that the item was stolen, so they asked the guy if he was willing to sign a piece of paper saying “yes, I own this tire.”

            He, sadly, wasn’t stupid enough to claim the item that he KNEW would be evidence against him in court, so I got MY PROPERTY back right away.

            If he had signed the paper saying that it belonged to him, then they’d have to show it was stolen, I’d have to bring my receipt in to support the police report I’d filed, and then I could get my property back, maybe.

          2. That’s nonsense. If she were Stasi you’d disappear in the middle of the night and your neighbor would likely be getting a nice bonus paycheck for turning you in. It’d make more sense for you to accuse *me* of being Stasi…

      1. Oh, I can do better than that 😎 : The login and password that work in the phone app no longer work on the website.

  19. The only thing* I can currently offer to Huns in distress is books**. Sarah, can I offer mine no-strings-attached? I don’t wanna look like I’m trying to capitalize, ’cause I’m not. Clean fantasy, 50-60K words, warm-and-fuzzy as far as I can tell. (I *aim* for warm and fuzzy. But I have astigmatism.)

    *subject to geography. You live in the Carolinas? Give me a yell.
    **and seeds, if you want to learn about/be infested by lamb’s quarters.

      1. OK, anybody want books? Three clean fantasies with ample helpings of shapeshifters, practicality, and warm-and-fuzzy. (I hope. I AIM for warm-and-fuzzy, but I do have astigmatism…) Trufox at the mail of protons, and I can send you docs or PDFs or what have you. Paperbacks too, if you don’t mind my old and dated covers.

  20. “…d*mned if I’m going to spend thousands of dollars on ONE bookcase. ” 8 cinderblock painted red and 5 8 foot 2 by 12s a fine book case makes, -or at least I thought so 60 years ago when in college.

  21. For sanity, I recommend listening to Bach’s many many cantatas, and to his six unaccompanied cello suites. Extraordinary cathedrals in sound, written by a prolific genius, centuries before the internet existed. And we still have them. So does YouTube!

  22. The only thing I can do right now is keep calm, carry on, and work my various programs.

    Oh, and make sure to pick up at least two extra cans of beans and peas and a larger bag of rice when I go out grocery shopping. Find space for it somewhere.

    Pick up a bottle of vitamins.

    And, get my meds refilled ASAP if not sooner.

  23. “…Whether there will be wood, is another question, but I’m open to looking for scrap and throw-outs.”

    There’s a guy on the Toob of Eew who builds beautiful furniture from shipping pallets.

    Pallets are usually free. And the surface planks are usually fir or oak.

    I’m lookin’ at my ever-growing stack of pallets, originally intended to eventually be fencing, and considering that with some careful cutting and a powered planer, they’d make some right fine bookshelves.

    Okay, I’d also need better cabinetry skills…

    1. An ex neighbor salvages wood and vintage items, then repurpose them. Including pallets. Big one is signs, including custom signs. But I bet she’d do custom shelves for a local customer. Makes a living at it.

  24. I used to think that police and/or military would decline to take up arms against their fellow citizens. I am no longer certain about that. I do not recognize the Canada I thought I knew but I can see its reflection in the country I love. All I can do now is maintain supplies of the necessaries for subsistence and keep my head down.

    Sarah, just a suggestion for bookshelves. Look into Elfa shelving (currently available from http://www.containerstore.com). We’ve been using the Elfa system with pine boards, cut and stained to suit walls and decor, for at least 35 years. The components I bought back then work seamlessly with components I bought this past year.

  25. While I’m angry at what the tyrant in Canada is doing to innocent people, I also feel a sense of “wait for the arm of the Lord to be revealed”. It’s very odd but at least peaceful.

    1. I might have felt some of that.

      I had an emotional experience today that somehow seemed like a sense of peace.

      1. Prayers given with sincerity at heart are never wasted. May Himself bless and keep those who’ve wandered into harms way, may His grace shelter the innocent and the children and the pets. May we all bear up our burdens in times of trouble and find ourselves better in soul and body once the trouble’s past.

      2. May the Lord bless and keep you.
        May the Lord cause His face to shine upon you, be gracious to you.
        May the Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you His peace.

    1. Those look nice, but when you start talking about needing twenty or thirty of them it adds up. I think I’d need about 35-40, and would most likely need to put them on wheels so I could shift them about. I imagine I”m not alone here in that.

      1. Lot of wasted space unless you stack them horizontally. Depth of shelf is a bit much, too. Those aren’t designed for books.

        But yeah, I’d need… about 262.25 foot of shelf to hold the basic paperbacks. Probably. Then there’s the hardbacks, the research material (separate shelf, mind you), the stuff I’ve got in storage that really needs to be sorted. Yeah. And those shelves don’t quite look up to holding the amount of books you *could* stack on them, thus making them even less attractive as “book” shelves.

        One of these day’s I’ll finish remodeling the library. And fix the chimney. Then I’ve have a nice, cozy little library space with all the walls lined with bookshelves, a comfy chair and a fire to sit by. Then I could sit there, take a selfie, and start a meme about “I don’t always read tons of books. Sometimes I eat and sleep, too.”

  26. Dangit. I know, I should know better. But every time I think “gee, maybe that’s enough” I realize the correct amount is “MORE!” Never mind of what. Doesn’t matter. ALL. MORE!

  27. Is there anyone who WANTS to live with these people?

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/02/19/wapo-op-ed-links-the-freedom-convoy-in-canada-to-white-supremacy/

    And the headline doesn’t convey the full awful that is WaaPooo: From the article:

    “The notion of “freedom” was historically and remains intertwined with Whiteness, as historian Tyler Stovall has argued. The belief that one’s entitlement to freedom is a key component of White supremacy.”

    1. They want us to be properly grateful when they take away our freedoms in the name of fighting the white supremacist menace.

    2. Dang, W. E. B. DuBois, Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and a few tens of thousands of others will be quite surprised to learn that.

    3. Someone tell Harriet Tubman that she was a tool of white supremacy….

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    4. But slavery is so horrible that you must remove everything even vaguely associated with it. . .

      Oh, yes, that’s only SOME slavery.

  28. One fast suggestion- if you have thrift stores, second hand or salvage stores available, you can sometimes find excellent used or antique furniture for very good prices. All the best. j PS- about animals, my animals are my family now. To harm one is to invite instant and terminal response from me. :o)

    On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:06 PM According To Hoyt wrote:

    > accordingtohoyt posted: ” Did any of you have “Trudeau goes full Castro” > on his 2022 bingo card? Because I didn’t. And our idiots are preparing to > throw the national guard at our own truckers. Younger son is working on the > boxes NOW (TBF he had to recover from work on ho” >

    1. ALL of our furniture (except my office chair) and MOST of our clothes came from thrift stores. I’m only looking new because I can’t find it locally otherwise.

      1. I don’t know if people don’t have bookcases to give away, or if so many houses had “built in” bookcases that can’t be removed without taking down the wall. I noticed the absence of bookcases when I was in the local ReStore a few weeks ago.

    2. PS- about animals, my animals are my family now. To harm one is to invite instant and terminal response from me

      Um. Well. DUH!!! Comes under “protecting the innocent.”

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