No More Silence Now

I apologize for what I’m about to do. No truly, because no one deserves this ear worm. But it’s time to shout.

Shout, shout, let it all out.


This was brought about by an article from Glenn Reynolds who says that despite the fact none of us agrees with woke bullshit, a tiny minority is succeeding in silencing the majority.

He’s right on that. what he’s wrong on is the roots of this: how we got where we are. How the left came to be in control. Why they think they can impose their crazy ideology and that “if anyone opposes it” (And I guarantee that’s how they look at it) it’s just “Some uneducated rednecks.” How we got to the point when the left is completely ignorant of history or really anything and trying to recreate the cultural revolution because they feel no one will oppose them.

What Glenn is missing, partly because honestly he was much further to the left 20 years ago, and partly because even the right lied to itself about it back then, is that anyone who was right enough to be conscious of how at odds they were with the loud sources of culture and what they then assumed was the majority has been biting his or her tongue for at least 35 years. I can’t say anything about before, because I wasn’t here.

I wasn’t at professional gatherings, where Republican presidents were referred to as the next incarnation of Hitler, and general applause was expected. I wasn’t at parties of well educated people where it was assumed “we’re all leftists together.”

But I presume, from books and conversations written from that time, that it was as bad at least 10 years before. Or call it 15.

For fifty years now, the way to signal you were upper class was to repeat at best euro-socialist and at worst outright communist shibboleths about how bad America was, how backward, and how great everywhere else was.

When the Soviet Union fell, the opinion amonth the bien pensants in the west was that “the good guys lost.”

For my entire life, if you aspired to a life in the arts, the sciences, or anything beyond semi-skilled (and even then) and you were a conservative, you’d BEST keep your mouth shut, and at worst signal centrist. And expect to pay for being centrist. For the last twenty years, the way to get ahead was to signal communist. Anything less than that, and you’d be hampering yourself. At best you’d be considered not very smart, at worst you’d be assumed to be evil.

Think back at all the loud political conversations you ever heard in public: not one of them signaled right. Think about ALL the political stuff you ever got from professional associations; at professional meetings; at family parties.

For the longest time we could tell the conservatives in our midst, because they were always quiet on the politics, no matter how crazy things got. ALWAYS.

This is no longer always true. As it’s not longer always true that the loud politics in public are always left. We’re starting to sometimes, here and there, hear the right lose their shit in public. We’re starting to see the right refusing to be cowed by the bullshit when told that their side is evil-bad or when someone is held up as a monster for resisting the left.

I think the left has been in a (worse than normal) panic since they realized despite all their demonization Kyle Rittenshouse became an immediate folk hero. That is why there is razor wire around the capital, and why they have a love-hate relationship with those guarding them. Because they know the tide is turning.

Not that they want to admit it. Thereby they invent Quanon and other “conspiracies’ whipping up the people. Because it can’t be that they never had the people, they just had control of the means of mass communication AND managed to cow everyone who dissented into silence by destroying lives and reputations. No, their myth promises the people are with them. And they keep demanding we fall in line with their increasingly deranged play.

This is why instead of seeing Trump as the rebellion of the people: a shot over the prow as it were. Instead they must attribute to him Svengali-like powers to whip up the mob. Because only that can explain why their plan went awry. And why we keep resisting.

In the arts, and other such positions, things are changing. Most of the cancelled people are finding better, or at least better paid positions.

Most of the leftist institutions are imploding under their massive effort at control which of course included the covidiocy.

They are fighting like wounded pigs, because they are. And they’re running out of time.

I’ll say it’s too late to avoid…. a more physical confrontation.

But for the sake of the sanity of the nation, for the sake of reclaiming the pudding heads who aren’t “political”, for the sake of telling the left they are not going to have it all their own way?

Shout, shout. let it all out.

Yes, many of you still have to dissemble in public settings, because otherwise you’ll be unemployed and blacklisted. And few, like me, can afford that.

So it’s time to let them know they are surrounded.

And yet even you can talk, even if on the net and under cover. And everyone else? Everyone who won’t lose their livelihood or life by talking: SHOUT SHOUT LET IT ALL OUT.

Let no display of leftist bullying in public pass unremarked. Tell hem they’re wrong and that you know they’re wrong. Tell them they aren’t the majority.

Make it HURT. Only hurt will penetrate the layer of illusion these people live under.

And it must be penetrated. Or civilization is lost.

No more hiding now. For we are nearing the day when the secrets of every heart will be laid bare.

If you can at all. If you can find a way even if that way is pseudonymous and covert? Publish, talk, scream. And let them be damned.

622 thoughts on “No More Silence Now

  1. Political silence is the land between the two extremes. In the one, death is not the worst outcome. In the other, you get to speak the truth. Not ‘Truth,” not “Your Truth.” Just the truth, plain and unvarnished.

    It isn’t the worst thing. That’s when you say things you know aren’t true to save your own life, as it were. You do things you know are wrong, too. Evil is done by those with the best of intetions, sure enough, but when you do wrong and you know it, that’s perdition. It kills the soul. Political silence is the rot that just kills it slower.

    Speaking out comes with consequences, too. But the fear of those consequences is a lie, too. They will happen anyway, eventually, assuming you don’t die first. Because the left isn’t going to say tomorrow, “say, let’s stop pushing the envelope for a bit, okay guys?” Accepting the consequences is… freeing. And they really, really hate that.

    1. We’ll see. I’m still not entirely sure of what my actions are going to be if they pass HB1. I have a general idea of what’s going to happen if HB 127 passes.

        1. Which one is 127? Is that the “lock up all gun ownwrs” act they’re trying to push, or a different one?

          If not “lock up all gun owners” act, it is at least “make immediate criminals out of 95 – 99% of rural Americans”, and a good portion of those urban who don’t live in already criminalized gun ownership areas, like NYC, Chicago, etc. Short version “Make criminals out of all gun owners who aren’t law enforcement.” Because, yea, sure, every gun owner is going to line up to get their guarantied 2nd Amendment new license.

          House passes this, it will kick of CW2. Bet on it. It won’t have to hit the Senate. President Biden/Harris/Pelosi, the trifecta that killed billions is how they will be remembered. As bad as it is going to be here … it will be worse elsewhere. “America catches a cold. The world catches pneumonia” “American civil war 2 = world Armageddon.”

          1. Not sure. If senate takes it up it’s possible but most 2A’s know they want a bloody shirt

      1. Not to mention the “Put 57 million Americans out of work” bill.

        Proposed law outlaws all freelancing (basically it’s “unionize if you want to work”) except for jobs your company doesn’t normally do. The example by the article is that Uber could not hire freelance drivers, but they could hire freelance janitors.

        westernjournal DOT com/biden-backs-law-put-57-million-americans-work/

        AFL-CIO naturally thinks this is great. More money for union coffers, more donations to democrats.

        1. It looks like they’re actively, deliberately, trying to trigger a civil war.

          I don’t think they actually are.
          I think they project like IMAX, and buy their own propaganda.
          They have a slobbering love affair with dictators.
          They proclaimed that Trump was a dictator.
          Even though they threw everything in their arsenal at him, he stood strong; the masses praised his strength, and lined up behind him.

          With the stolen election, they know they’re on deadly ground.
          They know what Sun Tzu said about that.
          So they’re fighting for their lives. (And it’s becoming less of a metaphor each day.)
          They misunderstand strength to be something about humiliating those weaker than you.
          And they’re desperately trying to appear strong.
          They expect the masses to flock to the strong horse.
          And it’s not working.

          If they weren’t so vicious, so dangerous, I would likely feel pity for them.
          As it is, there is nothing merciful about letting rabid dogs run loose.

          1. Also, there’s a critical flaw in those with narcissistic personalities. They can’t imagine that anyone could get tired of catering to them and decide to walk away.

            …No, really, they can’t. It completely wrecks their self-image of “I am perfect and everyone gives me what I want because I deserve it.” So they keep. Wanting. More. And keep pushing.

            And then when someone does walk away, it’s an existential threat, and they are incapable of responding rationally.

          2. The stupidest part is that if they gave up and went home *today*, they would be perfectly safe to live out their lives.

            1. But they wouldn’t have the power to tell us how to live ours. To them, that is inconceivable! 😛

              1. They find it inconceivable that people would reject their telling us how to live our lives, because they KNOW they are doing it for our own good.

                1. I have literally seen people phrasing it as “Why do so many women vote against their own best interests?”

                  (Which leads logically to the conclusion that we bought into patriarchy.)

                  1. Such people are completely incapable of understanding how bloody damn patronizing such statements are, too. Of COURSE we’re voting against our own interests (as are the poor and minorities who vote for conservatives). We can only ever have one interest each–for women, abortion. For the poor, welfare. And we’re certainly unable to understand and prioritize our own interests and values. The very idea!

                    1. C’mon, man – if we start listing what those people are completely incapable of understanding Sarah’s going to need a much bigger blog.

                  2. I believe the book was called “What’s the Matter with Kansas?”, during the Bush II administration. Same premise, about Americans in general..

        2. First thought: Like hell will I join a union. I’m possibly in a position to simply quit.

          Second thought: Who says that a union has to fund and political support Dems?

          It seems like it would be possible to have a union whose first principles are a) absolutely do not give money to Democrats or establishment Republicans b) have only a political agenda of hanging Democrats.

          The Big Tech Democrats are folks whose murder it is not currently particularly criminal to advocate.

          Comes to mind that current Democrat control of unions is partly an artifact of those most resistant to being so controlled being able to leave.

          Item: There are people who might prefer being coopted by management to Democrat control.

          Item: It would be interesting to know the paperwork for establishing a union.

          Item: Paperwork is potentially much less costly if one specifies that disputes will be decided by a panel of Trump voters who do not have law degrees. If the primary purpose of a union is not being forced to political service to the Democratic Party, if the lawyers are too corrupted by the establishment, then their remedies cannot be trusted.

          Item: That critical race theorists do not actually speak for all blacks is precisely the reason a white person might still think it possible to work with blacks.

            1. You don’t join such a union, you declare it personally.

              If I go forward with it, I may end up publishing the text, complete with my legal name. Obviously, I would have a copyright, and I could license it freely for others to use with modification.

              So you could use the same text, but tone down the misogyny or throw in a diatribe about ‘gay rights’ activists to fit your taste.

              Basic issue here is that the rigid idiots have provided an excuse for people to avoid going through the processes they have coopted, and at the same time seem like they will provide people incentive to look into the alternatives.

              If tens of millions are forced into unions, and tens of millions know that they have been cheated of a significant electoral victory, those people may be a very receptive audience for a person making such an appeal.

              A union uses force of numbers to force a bureaucracy to accept a given collective agreement.

              If we instead can recruit force of numbers to force bureaucracies to accept a bunch of individual statements with individual venues, a huge bone can be forced down the throat of those trying to gobble us down.

        3. What, I wonder, is required to form a union from scratch? I mean, would it be possible to create a “union” with, say, a $5 lifetime membership “dues” that provides one with a membership number and a card that says “Yes, I am a member of the FABP* Union.”

          *”F All Busybody Politicians” originally thought “F All Politicians” but…

          1. Thing is, the formal requirements for starting a union would probably be driven by employment law and by labor board requirements. If one’s primary purpose is in avoiding coerced pro-Democrat political speech, complying with anything under the oversight of the NLRB or of the lawyers is a losing battle.

            For the proof wrt lawyers, that letter by heads of law schools that I have been citing.

            The reason to share a union with others is a) bargaining position b) sharing the costs of bureaucratic overhead.

            Problem with trying to take advantage of bargaining position is preventing infiltration and subversion by the woke.

            NLRB is a Democrat proxy, a venue futile to try to win in.

            Courts have shown themselves to be a Democratic/GOPe proxy, likewise a futile venue.

            It makes sense to simply appeal directly to the American people, arguing for the legitimacy of a freelance ‘and the horse you rode in on’ personal union, and that the usual venues are not legitimate.

    2. Gee, that reminds me: St. Paddy’s Day is imminent.

      Gentlemen, if you please. This is a private fight, the Marquess of Queensberry rules will be observed on all occasions.

      1. “Easy now. Easy now! Is this a courtin’ or a donnybrook? Have the good manners not ta hit the man until he’s your husband, and entitled to hit ya back.”

  2. I have no mouth and I must scream.

    Just wondering when the little kid whom points out the “King has no clothes” will be noticed.

  3. To me the classic dichotomy of the last few years of “mostly peaceful” protest where billions of dollars of goods and structure were looted or destroyed and several people were killed compared with the January 6 capitol protest where some glass got broke, a couple folks died apparently from stress, and one poor soul was shot dead by an as yet unidentified law enforcement agent.
    That first case was actively diminished and details suppressed by the left and the media (yeah, I repeat myself there) while the capitol protest seems to have struck fear in the black hearts of the leading lights of our leftmost elected officials. And probably rightly so. For in those black hearts and the pea brains attached to them lies the knowledge that what they are attempting is most certainly not the will of the majority of the people, and while we are patient to the extreme that patience is not and cannot be infinite. Eventually we are coming for them and while American history is a subject they have no interest in, they do have some knowledge of classic European history such as the French Revolution and what happened to those in power once the people threw off all restraint.
    More and more often now I am seeing calm, reasonable, and the most sensible among us admit that it is only a matter of time before the last box springs open.

    1. Not just the left. It looks as though “all reasonable, thoughtful people,” know the election was fair (or, at most, marred by small, purely local acts that did nothing to change the outcome) and are insisting to say otherwise is both incorrect and irresponsible. Whether this is a class-based reaction, self-protection, or a massive case of denial (or all of the above), I don’t know.

      I suspect a lot of denial, both class and fear based.

      1. Thing is, pretty much everyone who has invested in a professional career has their metaphorical nuts in a vice.

        At least the engineers, lawyers, and doctors do. Maybe the accountants have escaped.

        Engineers have professional codes of ethics, and can be sanctioned by the state boards that hand out the PE certificate.

        One of the bits of the engineering codes is a requirement of public silence on a couple of topics. One, engineers are not supposed to make public statements about technical matters that are not founded in their personal practice. The public doesn’t have any sort of special knowledge about how specialist a specific engineer is, and should not be assumed able to to judge which ones don’t know what they are talking about. Secondly, it is bad ad copy for engineers as a whole for engineer a to say engineer b is worthless, hire me instead. So any concerns are to be taken up with state boards of licensure, and any other observations that might be disparaging about another engineer are not to be publicly shared.

        Just the uncontestable facts about Raffensperger are interesting in this contest. A) he is/was politically connected to the State of Georgia B) State political bodies have been known to exert such pressure on state boards that state boards have been willing to negotiate. C) He had held a PE in Civil with at least the state of Georgia. D) His claims about the security of the voting machines implicitly imply understanding of hardware and software design and engineering.

        Raffensperger has an undergraduate degree in civil engineering, and got it during a time when the coursework would probably not have been heavily computerized.

        The assumption that a Civil may have some understanding of electrical engineering, but that Raffensperger is still unlikely to truly be expert in hardware and software design may not be true. The assumption that Raffensperger’s civil engineering business was founded in state of Georgia political connections may not be true. Further claiming that a state board improperly failed to sanction an unethical engineer because the board was itself corrupt would be a risky move, politically. Depending on an engineer’s business, they may well need to keep a lot of state boards happy with them. Even if one only wants to stay in good graces with one board, and that a Republican state, that most likely is an establishment Republican state, who will punish you for asserting establishment Republican corruption.

        I’m not exactly studied in all of the arts of hardware and software engineering. My personal opinion is that we cannot afford to treat any electronic voting machine as secure.

        Lawyers have a more complex trap. Expected future value of a lawyer’s earning is in a) personal skill in making argument b) personal skill in specific areas of legal practice c) courts that will listen to you d) professional reputation. Lawyers are in the business of making assertions, and personal reputation has an effect on how credible judges and lawyers think you are. If they think you have lost your mind, and are saying things randomly, they will follow your words much more skeptically, if they have time for them at all. A conspiracy among judges I) is an assertion that makes you look like you don’t have a lawyer’s professional cool II) if true, what happens if some of the courts you practice with are entangled with the conspiracy? So, just about every lawyer feels a minimum of a strong sense that they need to speak very carefully about fact patterns and appearances, if they should speak about them at all. Continuing to practice law is evidence that one thinks at least part of the formal legal system can be salvaged, and casts doubt on how sincere you are if you state that the formal legal system has been seriously compromised.

        The letter of Law school deans dated January 12, 2021, signatories including Paul Caron and Doug Blaze, has to be understood in terms of bureaucratic conventional thinking within the profession of law. Paragraph one claims that this letter is in the interest of the legal profession. Paragraph two seems to call January six an attack on ‘democracy and the rule of law’. Note that for a large enough mob, hanging the whole of congress would be Democracy. Rule of law is an interesting question, needless to say, lawyers and judges as a whole seem unaware that they are agents, and very far from being the whole of the institution of rule of law.

        Paragraph three is a bit more complicated. i) claimed that ‘some lawyers challenged the outcome of the election with claims that they did not support with facts or evidence’. Note that we know some of the claims involved the inherent security of the voting machines. We also know that this involves hardware and software design knowledge, and that heads of law schools are even less likely to have understanding of those than Raffensperger the civil who was trained as an undergraduate way back in the day. The letter doesn’t specify the claims, so the signatories have covered their asses some. ii) ‘their responsibilities as lawyers and public citizens to promote public confidence in the rule of law and the justice system’. In other words, these people are as blind to the real context of the legal profession as you would expect law faculty to be. You generally want lawyers blind to the truth that you can defend a criminal by making sure the witnesses are murdered, but the cost of that blindness is that they overlook the extent to which the whole thing is theater, which the public can be persuaded to ignore.

        Paragraph four ‘As law deans, our mission is to train the next generation of leaders to uphold the core values of our profession and sustain the rule of law. This should be a moment of reflection for legal
        educators and members of the legal profession. A sustained effort will be necessary to repair
        and preserve our precious democratic institutions. As legal educators and lawyers ourselves, we
        must redouble our efforts to restore faith in the rule of law and the ideals of the legal
        profession. We have enormous faith in the law’s enduring values and in our students, who will
        soon lead this profession. We call upon all members of the legal profession to join us in the vital
        work ahead.’

        They are basically promising to try to keep the profession within the conspiracy.

        Do you think that after Rosa Parks, it would have been professional for heads of law schools to release a letter implicitly promising to attempt to keep civil rights activists from getting legal representation?

        Add in the naked sell out to a communist dictatorship, and the professional institutions are screwed, and will not have a happy outcome for any professional.

        When you have invested a lot of your life into a profession, and have a vocation for it, it is a struggle to abandon all of that. Despite pretty much knowing how badly it will end, there is a terrible temptation to try to wait it out. ‘Maybe I can still salvage this.’

        Likewise, people who have invested in a federal government career.

        1. Well, at some point you just have to decide what lines you won’t cross, and when called to cross them, tell them that they’ll have to fire you first.

          For my field I’ve settled on those red lines being compelled to speak a lie, or authorize something likely to cause death, dismemberment, or otherwise permanent injury.

          1. Problem I have is navigating the space between my “fu(c)k you, I’m better off dead” lines and fighting with literally everyone over very nearly everything.

            I have serious disagreements here with nominal allies over drug policy issues. Whenever those come up, and I say nothing, an inner part of my says that I am compromising when I should not. The personal counter argument is that I cannot stay engaged on that issue without being extremely angry. So, distancing myself is actually necessary for me to be calm enough to hope to function on a day to day basis.

            The feeling inside of “you have not confronted this person for their ‘obvious lies” is the same, regardless of whether I actually intellectually understand that at worst it is an honest mistake, and my own position may be mistaken. I have relatives whose thinking is so disordered that staying engaged with them, even if just on the question of whether I hate* them, would wear me to nervous collapse.

            I’m doing something wrong, and am both afraid of the alternatives, and not able to see a better answer.

            *In absence of love they would not be able to contact me.

        2. “we must redouble our efforts to restore faith in the rule of law and the ideals of the legal profession”

          I hate to tell them but that horse left the barn a long time ago.

          1. That’s salesmanship too. It has nothing to do with ethical behavior. Their concerns should be those of maintaining a lawful and legal framework within society. Which should include the examination of credible reports of massive voter fraud. Any assertion ‘these reports are not proved’ makes me want to scream. Of course they’re not proved. It would take 200 FBI agents working for a year to bring the case to trial. Allegations and seemingly credible witnesses are enough to launch an investigation. Which should have been done. ‘Hello Police. My car was stolen.’ ‘Oh really. Can you prove that?’ ‘Well, it’s gone. Is that proof?’ ‘Okay, you claim you had a car. You claim it is gone. When you can prove it get back to us. For all we know you are hiding it to make an insurance claim’.

        3. Great analysis of engineering and lawyer problems today. My own experience is as a lawyer.
          In law school at UW Madison from 1976 to 1979 the law school was already radicalized. In many large classes I was the only free market advocate the attorneys were being trained to be cogs in a government machine that regulated everything. Because I was the only person speaking up for capitalism I was tolerated. Also respect for free-speech was still present in the institution. Further cancel culture had not arrived and the idea of shouting me down or severely attacking me never came up.
          Upon graduation I sought to get a job with an industrial manufacturing company that has been my goal throughout the whole school. The problem was corporations tend to hire people from law firms, not Directly from law school. I was able to find a job by accepting much less money than I might’ve commanded. In a conservative manufacturing corporation I was completely at home with the viewpoints of my fellow workers. People who work in metalworking into some extent in software tend to be more conservative than the average population. And because the corporations I worked for sold only two other corporations and not to the general public there was no need to project any kind of woke image to the general population. There is only a need to exhibit competence to keep everyone’s machines running to make all of your things. I remained happy and able to keep and express my positions on life and government to my friends in the companies, without fear that I would run afoul of any thought police, even HR.
          I was lucky, but it was also a good plan. I’m now retired but I’m going to speak up as I always have. If it comes to demonstration I will participate. We must do all we can to stop the current destruction of our country. We owe it to the United States and to our freedom.

        4. Rosa Parks was staged.

          And was an activist involved with the communist party, not just a random brave woman on a bus:
          americanthinker DOT com/blog/2013/02/the_communists_and_rosa_parks.html

          1. The horror at staged activism is yet another example of modern conservatism defining “bad tactics” as “anything that works”.

            I wonder how many of the tut-tutters realize that the Boston Massacre as understood when it happened was a fabrication of the media as well?

                1. Was it though? Because in this case I think it was similar to antifa getting into the capitol in January.

                  “Oh, they are finally doing something good for once.”

            1. It’s not horror at staged activism (I would posit that ALL visible activism is by its nature staged). It’s being irritated that such manipulation is the *norm* for shaping “social values” and enforcing them on the rest of us, and the resulting public regard for such activism’s visible faces as saints of the movement.

              See also St. Floyd chasing the racists out of the temple.

              1. To have an effect, activism has to be well-timed and include a supportive media. Such a consilience is unlikely to happen in a spontaneous exhibition of peoples’ grievances. In such a reality, “staged” activism works better than the alternatives. This makes it a hammer in the toolbox of anyone seeking social change. It is a means and, to a certain perception, is justified by noble ends. Conservatives actually do understand this but don’t yet have the organizing capacity the Left has built up over nearly a century of manipulation.

                In some ways it is evolution in action. As long as the system rewards the successful manipulator, manipulation will dominate the memetic space.

              2. There’s also a difference between…. hm. Metaphor time.

                Putting out bait for what you want to show is there, isn’t the same as importing one and planting it to Show Everyone.

                1. To concretize the distinction, compare and contrast Rosa Parks and Jussie Smollett.

                  When Jim Crow was enacted in Richmond Virginia at the start of the 20th Century there were no problems with Blacks riding in the backs of busses because they said, en masse, “No thanks, I’d liefer walk.” and the drop off in custom drove the bus lines out of business.

                  Or so I’ve been told.

          2. The commies shot themselves in the foot with that one – it ended up with the rollback of government controlled racial segregation

            1. Actually segregation was steadily being rolled back at that point. The thing about the boycott was that NAACP refused to take their case unless they demanded the repeal of the whole thing, and they didn’t have the gumption. So they had this particularly stupid boycott because the company was given no say. It had tried to ignore the law and the city had responded by stopping the buses and arresting the drivers if they had permitted the law to be broken.

        5. Understood. many are in between a rock and a covered face.

          My son, the porn director (OK he runs a local ad agency and production house, but he did direct movies for Playboy’s film branch at one time.) & my daughter, the no neck construction stiff (OK, OK, she’s civil engineering for Alyeska, the pipeline operators.) both find it obligatory to often mask to assure keeping the money coming in.

          I did note I’m willing to reinstate their five bucks a week allowances, from well over fifty years ago if they’d just stand tall, bare faced against the world, but they refuse my generous offer. Oh well…

      2. I think that they know there was fraud, but because it go rid of Trump, they are fine with it. They are operating under the incorrect assumption that Democrats only cheated to get rid of Trump and will refrain from cheating in the future.

        I think it’s entirely plausible that the Democrats and GOP had a backroom deal going that as long as they only committed fraud to get rid of Trump, they would back them and make sure there weren’t investigations. It would be one way to explain all those Biden* only votes.

        1. My take on the GOP is that they are the “GO Along To GET Along with the Dems” Party, happily riding at the back of the bus as free riders. Yes, it’s “judgmental”. Prove me wrong.

          1. Set a standard that you would accept as proof.

            All too often, I’ve been bitten by the “anything other than absolute success, right now, in the exact method that I want, is betrayal and must be punished” club.

            Even when I paid the price for trying, I was doing it their way, and they left me hung out to dry.

    2. well, they’re proposing a bunch of new gun laws, because they know no one was armed this time, and are wetting their knickers about what will happen when we are….

      1. I have a friend, lives not too far from me and many of you will probably know of whom I speak, who could by himself arm a reinforced company or a light battalion (at least–that was based on the last count I had from him which was some time ago). By himself. And while it would be somewhat weak on crew-served weapons for units of that size it wouldn’t be entirely lacking in that department either. I know more who could arm at least a rather eclectic squad where everyone would have something to shoot.

        I have friends who have dealt firsthand with actual insurgencies. They know what works, and what doesn’t. Me? I was in intel puke, about as far away from actual combat as you can get. We were told “you’d be evacuated before women and children” (darker rumors were that the Security Police had…other orders…in case of a danger of overrun, not that there was one when the closest I got to a “danger zone” was RAF Chicksands–since closed–in Bedfordshire, England).

        So those in power have little to fear from me. I’m just a voice, and not much of one (I mean, I’ve only been in FaceBook Jail once, that’s how small my footprint is), but there are other folk out there that should have them sleeping with one eye open.

        1. I believe there are a huge number of individuals who, upon viewing the latest LE press conference show-and-tell about finding an “arsenal” with everything spread out on display, respond with some variation of “is that all they had?”

          1. Yes, we laugh when the media displays a couple of rifles and maybe 500 rounds as a weapons cache. We laugh a lot. That’s not even enough for a good weekend of target practice!

          2. Even my lefty co-worker laughed at a recent breathless news story about someone who was apprehended at the capitol with a pistol and twenty rounds.

            Of course, guns seems to be the one thing he’s not really progressive about.

            1. Did you notice how quickly that story faded away when folks started mentioning that he was a legally registered security guard who worked in that area, and just happened to not be on duty when arrested?

          3. “he was much further to the left 20 years ago, ”


            A lot of people were much further to the left 20 years ago. It’s fair to say that Pajama Media (at least in it’s current form and with its founder) wouldn’t exist were it not for what happened twenty years ago.

              1. 20 years ago was 9/11. That singular event caused a lot of people who considered themselves good Democrats to reevaluate things and put themselves solidly in the conservative category.

                Yeah, the Dems have moved further left. But people like Roger L. Simon, who started PJM, have explicitly identified the leftist reaction to 9/11 as the thing that caused the blinders to be removed from their eyes.

        2. I was a satcom tech, but i can service a rifle and well… i know how to weld now, and use a lathe… and a reloading press, and a bullet mold…

      2. The average age of D House members is 60 and D Senators is 63, so they were all around when the Dems got torched in 1994 after they rammed through the AWB. The actual Speaker of the House lost his safe seat and the House flipped R so hard that Billy Jeff was forced to make deals with Newt on a range of R priorities. Those D who were in office then very well knew that they had licked the third rail, and as a result avoided the gun restriction topic for two and half decades since. Even the overwhelming Barry Sotoero majorities in both houses avoided anything in that direction.

        Now the panic of some of the inmates incarcerated at the DC Federal Penitentiary appears to have overridden their tiny residual alcohol-sodden frontal lobes, so now they are having another go.

        And this in an environment where 2020 ended with 39,695,315 NICS checks, and the annualized run rate based on the first two months of 2021 NICS data is up past 46 million, with a huge number of those being new owners.

        Lick the third rail, Nancy. It tastes like Grey Goose.

        1. The average age of D House members is 60 and D Senators is 63, so they were all around when the Dems got torched in 1994 after they rammed through the AWB.

          I believe they’re relying on fraud to save them this time.

          1. That’s my impression. “After HB 1 becomes federal law, we can do anything we want, so let’s disarm the people.”

              1. In some sense it doesn’t matter because they will ram through whatever they want regardless, but the firearms industry of today is not the industry of ’94. The money is in Yet Another Black Rifle now, not Yet Another Granpappy’s Hunting Rifle. So the industry is likely to fight where it was helping the grabber back then.

                Note I said the industry, not the NRA, who I expect to be felating the grabbers with one end and issuing fundraising spam with the other.

                1. I think the NRA is part of the disgusting uniparty. I’ve loathed Wayne forever.

              2. And it will work great until it hits That One Guy who says “screw the social controls, I’m going to go kinetic and make it *hurt*”

          2. That and taking absolute control over redistricting it so they can gerrymander enough Republican districts away to ensure permanent Democratic Party majorities in the House. Expect them to use the DOJ to pursue lawsuits against states to force this on a state level at all. They have made it clear their goal is to be the USA version of the CCP. Indeed, lefty journo David Brooks said that the reason Democrats don’t want to cooperate with Republicans is they do not view the Republican Party, as legitimate.

    3. The Left sends a few thousand into the streets and tears down a city.

      Imagine their horror when the Right gathers in numbers of half a million.

      The Left truly believes that everyone behaves just like their minions, therefore our half a million must be exponentially worse.

      Because they believe their dogma, not their lying eyes.

      1. Imagine their horror when the Right gathers in numbers of half a million.

        Since you didn’t specify armed, I’ll point out that we don’t have to: D.C. is still a fortress.

        Armed might cause them to all drop dead of heart attacks.

      2. That concentration would be counterproductive.

        As an exercise, some friends and I once decided that you could shut down the entire (blank) with a basic rifle squad.
        There’s a difference between the force needed to hold a contested point, and the force needed to disrupt logistics infrastructure.

        1. As I recall it wasn’t that many years ago (OK back in 2002) that all of the DC area was paralyzed with fear for three weeks by one sniper team consisting of a 41 year old man and his teenage accomplice.
          Weapon used was a stolen AR variant in .223 caliber.

        2. My point was that since the Left sees ALL such gatherings as violent (no matter what they may say about “peaceful protests”) the Right’s larger gatherings, like 1/6 in D.C., must be X-times more violent. Therefore the Left’s response must be X-times larger. It doesn’t see the difference in the character of the crowd, only the count of the interchangeable widgets.

          That one sniper on an overpass is more useful if the *actual* goal is to bring things to a screeching halt is a different argument.

  4. Yes, so much this.

    Even if you can’t speak up at work or run for office, it’s time to stop being polite to those people in your life who already know you, who’ve been telling you for years that you’re a racist fascist because you are insufficiently enthusiastic in denouncing the Emmanuel Goldstein of the moment. Those who know you already know what you are, you have nothing to lose, and they’ve just trod on the last good intention and are marching past the first unambiguously-worded road signs marked “Hell, This Way” with a big arrow pointing toward Critical Race Theory.

    Make sure they can’t hide from that.

  5. Thereby they invent Quanon and other “conspiracies’ whipping up the people.

    Well, the only way they get anywhere is by backroom deals (“conspiracy” by any other name) and then publicly “whipping up the people” so of course they think that’s what the other side does too. When they talk about the other side using “astroturf” it’s because it’s what they do. They can’t imagine a real, bona fide grassroots movement. They project harder than a 12 screen Imax multiplex.

    1. And that’s why they were so loud about “Russia Russia Russia ” after 2016: They knew what they were doing to “win”, so DJT must have done the same thing, and they were employing all the known experts on cheating an election, so he must have had outside help.

    2. What cracks me up is that the whole Q thing was very clearly designed (by whomever arranged it) to keep the hotheads *out* of the streets. “Don’t worry, trust the plan, we’re going to fix everything…”. It’s the inverse of a “color revolution” operation.

      I’m of two minds as to who set that operation up, but now that it’s over I’m afraid there’s nothing left to slow down events once they get going.

      1. This is… only partially true.

        The other thing Q did was wake a whole lot of people who were otherwise soundly asleep up to the magnitude of corruption in the US (and the world). Only half of his message was “trust the plan”; the other half was “think for yourself, don’t believe the lies, and understand that they really are out to get you.”

        So, while I agree that the operation served to keep a lid on things while there was still the appearance of a plan, it *also* serves to almost guarantee an explosion now that that appearance is over.

        1. I don’t think that’s correct. Anybody who found Q was already looking for an answer to “what the heck has gone wrong?” I’ll agree, though, that by keeping the lid on things a little longer, it built up more pressure.

          1. Anyone who jumped far enough down the rabbit hole to actually read his posts – sure, I’ll agree they were already looking. But, there are a whole heck of a lot of people who encountered the message without necessarily realizing the source. The mere fact that we’re having a discussion about said message on a completely unrelated comment thread is proof of that.

            What Q did, very successfully, was move the Overton window regarding corruption in the US. When I talk about “waking people up,” that’s what I’m referring to.

          1. Judge the plan by it’s results, assume the planner is competent, and ask who benefits. That will give you the answer.

            The outcome of the plan, quite clearly, is to provoke a revolt against the US oligarchs. Who benefits? Anyone with a vested interest in seeing the downfall of the US as a world power, which is many, but foremost China.

            1. No. Seriously. You’re crediting the left with WAY too much ability to think.
              Keeping us quiet while they stole the election WAS the plan. They never think of second order consequences. EVER.

              1. TEBBSP is correct.

                Take the metaphor “diplomacy is saying ‘nice doggy’ until you find a rock” literally.
                When the fool gets the rock, he’s going to get mauled.
                That’s where we are.

                Authoritarians have been spreading conspiracy theories that “the Tsar and his advisors were preparing to strike against corruption. Keep your head down. Trust the plan. Don’t interfere.” for a very long time.
                It’s one of their most successful tactics.
                But now that they’ve consolidated power, do you really think they’re not going to use it?
                They’re in charge, and they want us to know it. They want to be the boot stamping on our face.

                We have problems of our own. Figuring out precedence of targets is a huge one. But imminent deadly peril tends to clarify the conundrum over the short term.

                1. Waggles hand. China doesn’t understand any other country, so with respect, I very much DOUBT that.
                  In my opinion, they want us quiet and under their thumb.

                  1. That’s the thing. They so misunderstand us that they thought that this is the way to get what they want. They absolutely understand hitting multiple birds with one stone, if they can. They’re just nor very good at the calculus to do so.

                    1. It’s important not to lose track of who the “they” is in these discussions. Because in totalitarian and communist societies the people beneath the top are not usually motivated by actually achieving the goals of the people above them, unless it’s been made really explicit that that’s what they will be judged on. The old line about bureaucracies comes to mind, about how their activity is indistinguishable from a cabal of their enemies. The CCP has bureaucracies too, really badly run inefficient ones too. So what actually happens isn’t always what somebody explicitly *chose* to happen.

  6. Oh, and I’ve never been one to keep my honest thoughts to myself. I could restrain myself for brief periods–such as not causing, or contributing to, drama at conventions I attended but, well, back in the day when I was under the illusion that there was value to SFWA membership and I had one, I was always getting into it on the various private fora because I am just constitutionally unsuited to remaining silent.

    This has, perhaps, cost me over the years but I can look myself in the mirror. Okay, with my mug, maybe that’s not a great tradeoff, but it’s mine. 😉

    1. Honestly struggling with many co-coreligionists. Started a few years ago speaking out about a number of left wing issues. And of course OMG he voted for TRUMP. Confronted several about their vote for abortion. Response was “I am not a baby killer” Well, yes actually if you voted for them, yeah you kind of are. Of course that is impolite and they do not want to accept any responsibility for those actions. Mind boggling how they can accept the savior and not accept individual responsibility.

      Pretty well done with that crowd when the collective or community responsibility began to creep in. Yikes. Maybe actually read the bible. Or the constitution or actually get out and see how the REAL world works.

      1. The blogger who will remain nameless distinguishes between Christian and “Churchian”–those who mouth the words of belief in Christ, but damned sure don’t live it. He’s an ass, but I think he’s right on this point.

        1. “HippieChristians.” The sort of man whose hypocrisy shouts “I am a Christian” while supporting infant sacrifice, who scolds others on “What would Jesus do?” while supporting self mutilation and child abuse, and who will happily give money to politicians but begrudges the tithes that support actual acts of charity. It encapsulates snobbery and delight at being able to consider oneself better than other people without actually having to do anything.

            1. This! Plus the total lack of responsibility. Allows them to simply not see reality and the fight against evil that is even now taking place. They are the ‘good’ guys. Such a false faith. Sickens me.

            2. “spirituality” is the watchword of people who are trying to reify the worst stereotypes of Idiot Belief People.

              It is almost near-guaranteed that the person buys 240% into the Emotion vs Logic false dichotomy, joining on Team Stupid.

            3. “I’m spiritual but not religious” means “I am a sentimental nitwit who can’t face the implications of either consistent theism or consistent atheism, and I want to feel like my life has a greater meaning while doing whatever strikes my fancy.”

              1. usually means “I believe that there could be a higher being but I don’t follow any organized religion.”

                1. My response is always “I don’t know which is right. I know which are *wrong based on what they espouse for others, and haven’t outgrown such. Regardless, they can’t all be right. There is something bigger than ‘us’. I just don’t know what that something is.” (Human sacrifice. Convert or else. I can live with, “don’t follow this one you will go to hell”, at least I’ll be in good company.) That or too busy heading out to wilderness to deal with joining with others. Take your pick.

                  Was raised Episcopalian when we weren’t out camping because fishing or hunting … might have something to do with my lack of enthusiasm for group worship. Hubby is of like mind, except he was raised Baptist, I think.

              2. “I’m spiritual but not religious” = “I have no coherent theology and adjust my principles to suit the moment.”

                TL:DR version, “My head is up my [butt].”

          1. quick rule of thumb: “You can trust me! I’m a ‘Good Christian'” = Do Not, in any way, trust this person.
            everyone who ever said that to me has tried to, or did stab me in the back or shaft me in some way . . . . you know, like all good christians[eyeroll]

            1. Ah well. I was raised Catholic. I try to live as a Christian, but I’m not 100% successful on that. Some parishes are okay. Some priests are okay. Not sure if there’s such a thing as an honest bishop or higher. I’m darn sure don’t believe Pope Frankie is God’s Chosen representative on Earth.

                    1. The word is that he was forced out by USA and other PTBs (Barry here, plus Eurobanks) via pressure on the Vatican bank. I’m not up to finding the sources for that, so the appropriate quantity of NaCl applies.

                    2. Do we have information on this, or is it just a strong supposition? I mean, I have no problem believing it *could* happen, but no idea on how to judge claims that it did

                    3. Um…. Articles show up now and then. I don’t remember any right now.
                      And the red shoes, I read an entire mainstream article about how Francis was furious at Benedict wearing the red boots, and it made no sense whatsoever. It was obvious the article writer had no idea what it was….
                      UNTIL of course in a discussion here suburban said how only the reigning pope wears red boots. 😀

                    1. Mike Houst couldn’t be more wrong. Not only was it not AMIABLE at all, but Benedict has refused to leave the Vatican, and continues to wear the red shoes reserved for the officiating pontiff.

                    2. I had not heard that about Pope Benedict. Good on him.

                      I had wondered how “Pope Red” (who I understood to be a red-diaper baby) got elected. But how did the Cardinals become that corrupt?

                    3. There’s apparently been some corruption for some time.

                      This specific faction, from hearsay, appears to a homosexual aligned organization.

                      US side of the Priesthood is said to have a number of problem members, due to changes in US seminaries during the Sexual Revolution. They let seminarians be sexually active, and this apparently causes development issues in professional development.

                      South America has a lot of issues with Liberation Theology, priests who follow the Communist heresy instead of Christianity.

                      Anyway, this particular faction has been pushing all sorts of leniency for homosexuals and the divorced, and some of the senior American priests aligned with it may have credible abuse allegations against them. But some of the senior bureaucrats involved have financial interests, and the American side of things may simply be tied to fundraising from Americans.

                    4. “Lavender Mafia” should bring up information, for those wanting to dig into it.

                      Significant commy-flavored heresy, too.

                    5. … for some time.

                      Not much more than 700 900 1600 2000 years, I am told, with intermittent outbreaks of integrity which have been quickly suppressed.

                      It’s as good or better a record as any other human institution of comparable longevity.

                    1. Milo has an excellent book called Diabolical which lays out the corruption of Fr. Bergoglio with his usual wit and a lot of care.

                      It’s first excellence is that it is written from the presupposition that Catholicism is true, the Catholic Church our “mother kirke”, and the Papacy valuable to the world.

                    2. There’s mixed opinions on Milo’s recent announcement. It might be genuine. But some are also leery of the possibility that it’s an attempt to get himself back in the spotlight. I enjoyed watching his actions in the past, but won’t deny that the suspicion is possible.

                      Time will tell.

                    3. Honestly I don’t trust it but I don’t need to. As long as he isn’t spreading corruption (free will exists; you are responsible for facing your transgressions at the gate just as I am and I’m just as fallen) or scaring horses it’s between him and Himself.

                      On a separate note, wish folks could stop with the guilting bits for the idea of original sin. Fallen world = temptation exists. I’m not calling you evil or subhuman when it’s referred to. Just tired of folks assigning the theology to saying that man is evil at core

                    4. It’s tough that original sin is a critical component of the need for salvation.

                      I shall say no more.

                    5. I tend to think of original sin as meaning “human nature leads people to do bad things”. For me, one of the important points for an effective religion (i.e. not the current Woke religion) is that it get people to struggle to be better than unconstrained human nature, that is you need to fight against the temptation to sin.

                      The Wokists seem to believe that struggling against sin is immoral behavior and giving into it is moral — they’ve inverted it.

                    6. It can be found from a pragmatic and science based approach, too. At least, that is the conclusion I came to before rediscovering faith. Observe ye toddlers and infants. Humanity at its baseline, unimproved state is self-centered, cruel, and greedy. Toddlers can be some of the most violent “people” that exist. We are none of us born perfect little angels with no flaws whatsoever. It is the right duty of parents to properly school their little monsters into decent, moral human beings.

                      It is remarkably easy to find reasons to do bad things. Laziness pays off now, doing drugs feels good while you are high, and casual sex is fun. The question is not “why do people do bad things?” The reasons are obvious. The question is “why doesn’t *everybody* do bad things?”

                      For the Christians, we have our answer already. It is not blind faith that guides us, though. We can see the benefits of honesty, hard work, charity, and good moral character with our own eyes.

                      The woke are mired in a system bent on the destruction of everything. It is why they never have a point at which they can say “enough!” They must progress towards an end few if any of them can actually see. It isn’t the tolerant, equal, happy utopia that most *think* they want. It is pogroms and killing fields, gulags and work camps, thought police and informants. It is a return to more brutal humanity, of slavery and violence, of rule of the strong and suffering of the weak.

                      That is the ideology we are attempting to eradicate.

                    7. The Boss set up the system so that we *can* figure out a way that works.

                      That’s why one of my rules of thumb for honest agnostic, rather than excuse making anti-theist, is that they look at Christian moral rules and go “… you know, that makes sense.”

                      Note, not parodies of the same, but the actual rules.

                      Ten commandment style, with all the *rational* development there of.

                      When I married my husband, he thought it was all fairy tales…but the rules were sound.

                      He…kept looking.

                    8. The way I looked at it back when I was an atheist- and thought I had good reasons to be one- was that a true atheist simply does not believe. No faith. Not in the Christian deity, nor in Islam, or any other religion. I thought it very strange that the label “atheist” had been hijacked to mean “Christians are ebul!” It was… arguing in bad “faith.”

                      One of the things I looked into and researched was a foundation for moral behavior that did not include any sort of faith at all. There just weren’t any good ones. And the rules for the faithful, they just worked. There was no reason *not* to adopt those rules. Society was a better place with more Christians in it, even for the most argumentative atheist. And the bad things I had seen growing up were not actually *part* of Christianity in general or the Catholic faith in particular. The Bible actually told us these things were *wrong* and always would be wrong, and no machinations of Men could make them morally right.

                      Mankind is fallible. But having a chance of success or failure makes us free. And time and again, when mankind returns to faith in Himself, we are better off in the long run. When we stray, chaos creeps in. I never actually made a choice to believe. I found one day that I did, in fact, believe. And all the history, the foundations of faith and the Bible, they all are built on that faith and improve on it, I believe. It is a far nice place to be.

                    9. When I say I don’t have a religion, it is more I don’t have a church community. Christian, definitely. Believe in the Holy Trinity (so Catholic/Episcopalian) Just don’t feel the need for the commitment or community of a specific congregation, regardless of the christian variation.

                    10. “Silent Running” comes much to mind, even if the song title is opposite the post title:

                      “Don’t believe the church and state
                      And everything they tell you.”

                    11. More where I can’t dig out the sources, but there are allegations that Bergoglio was involved (enabling the perps) child trafficking in Argentina. Whether or not that’s true, from my POV as a lapsed Lutheran, he’s doing more damage to the Catholic Church than I’ve ever seen before.

                  1. A protestant would make snarky comments.

                    A polite protestant would speculate on what kind of comments a protestant would make.


                    1. I don’t mock my fellow Christians when they are suffering. We’re on the same side.

            2. That’s actually one of my markers for “Don’t rent to those people” — the ones who feel the need to TELL me “we’re Christians”. Deadbeats, every time.

              1. Flip side of that. Every time I had a landlord that made a point of his (and it was always a “his”) Christianity in business correspondence, even to the extend of naming it, I knew I was in for a ride.

                Every. Time.

                1. Yep. I’m a follower of Jesus Christ and I have been burned every single time by going to the “Christian eye doctor” or the “Christian dentist.”

                  The eye doctor was a pathetic wanna be rapist.

                  Got a piece of my mind after he tried some junk. Plus he was the worst eye doctor I’ve ever visited.

              2. One the other hand, walk in on two brothers and a buddy eating lunch and discussing Sunday’s sermon, on a Tuesday, and you can be pretty sure they “Try to be a good Christian” and are a million times better than anyone claiming to be such.
                The one wanted to swear so bad one day, I offered to do it for him. He demurred but I got him to laugh (hey, working on an Olds Quad 4 will do that to you)

                1. The Christian men who will die to save you never say so. They just show up. I have a friend in Klamath Falls, OR who is this man. Every day.

                  1. There are some good ones in K-Falls. Small enough city that the big-city miasma hasn’t afflicted people. The jerks are usually outnumbered and outshouted, as it were.

                  1. I have heard many a “Tommy is great, but . . .” from the Kamelot Army
                    Me? A Tommy, Simone, Roy colab, anyone?
                    Arjen should make it happen if Kamelot doesn’t and add Floor, Marcela and Anneke!
                    Dan’s little after speech is pretty good too. Spot on on the “Cool Thing” about too many atheist sorts. Like their socialism, or “belief in Science™”, they can’t say exactly why it is what it is, but shut up, all their cool friends say it is so. I can be an atheist and acknowledge that if I really want to believe in the scientific method, nothing says there is no Deity, just as I see no proof of him/her/whatever. I also ain’t inviting them over for dinner. Funny thing too is the same sots who whinge about his more faithful slant are often the same sorts holding up Simone and Floor’s version of Stabat Mater Delorosa as proof of how talented Metal ladies are. Religious music is only okay if they can’t understand the words (~_^)
                    and to just add another cool tune. Alpen Glow:

                    in Mexico City.
                    Contains Marko
                    in a kilt!

                    1. I fooking LOVE Floor Jansen.

                      She is the Valkyrie Goddess Of Metal, the Dutch Swiss Army Knife of Music, and Lady Floor of The Miraculous Voice.

                      That is all.

                  1. I offered. Even willing to keep it mild for him. It REALLY is a stupid design.
                    Typical GM. So close, and yet, full of “WTF were they thinking?”

                2. Working on any sort of mechanical task is automatic forgiveness to me. My vortex would have tested patience of St. Francis

              3. If someone makes a point of telling you they are something positive, assume the opposite. If it’s negative take it as true

              1. That seems a trifle over-broad. I am a good accountant (retired). The consensus of opinion seems to be that I am a bad wallaby – but how could anybody but another wallaby judge?

                If somebody says he is a good Nazi just where does that leave you?

                But I agree we ought distrust people who claim to be good for a reason; far preferable are those who are good for nothing.

                  1. Well, as far as good Christians go, we are advised that “by their fruits ye shall know them.” Thus, should a man tell you he is a good Christian, seize his fruits that ye may know.

                    1. Wallabies are herbivores, and I REALLY don’t like where my brain just took that. Bad wallaby!

                      …Good Christian, perhaps. But bad wallaby!

                  1. While the thralls are nice, I’ll just keep them away from me altogether. saves ammo. You seen prices on it? (some has even gone down!)

              1. The most purely awful boss that I ever worked for had – ostentatiously – a Bible on his desk. I bailed after a couple of years. Later, I discovered that after I quit, there had been about three or four replacements for my job in the space of a year.
                I’ll have to drive past their place, see if they are still in business. I have to hand it to them, they were a nice little company, very efficient when it came to supplying various commodities at a competitive rate to a whole range of state, city, and US government offices … but the main operative was a man I wished that they could wall up in a small cell, and feed him rations through a small opening in the door…

                1. Little known to me (not that I would have passed on the job), there was a reason why there was 5 years between me and the “last hire”. People weren’t staying on. Heard comments more than once of “I know your employer. I lasted a month before I quit.” From people who were now managers somewhere else. I didn’t quit looking for about 5 years. Not because of working conditions, exactly. Salary in ’04 was less than I made in ’90 (OTOH it was better than $0, and watching savings slowly drain because unemployment had ran out). I did have interviews; they weren’t offering anything better. Good news about where I was at was the “Team effort may require working long hours and into the weekend.” We all know what those code words mean … don’t we? At the job I had, that was definitely a No-No. Sure everyone of us would get tied up in the “Almost got it … oh, da** it is is well after 5 PM” loop but it wasn’t required, unless for some reason you were late getting in, or took a long lunch. Yep. Had a clock watching micro manager. Never mind he was gone 85% of the time and everyone put in >40 hours average all the time. But he wasn’t a coding micro manager, and unless a client complained (none did that I heard of, not about me), didn’t hear anything on that front either. Don’t know why the company can’t seem to keep new employees now since the boss sold the company and retired.

            3. The key word there is “good.” Jesus had a lot to say about people who believed they were good, none of it good.

          2. I believe the original term was, “Pharisee.”
            Mind you, the Pharisees were the “liberals,” of their time; they should have been Jesus’ natural allies. But He called them out and they found Him just as threatening as the Sadducees did.

            And He laughed at them, which may have really honked them off.

        2. those who mouth the words of belief in Christ, but damned sure don’t live it

          A small variant that is described by the same word: the belief that one’s soul is determined by being in a Church building on Sunday.

          A favored tool of power hungry “ministers” (*spit*) and Church Karens.

          1. A co-worker told me we have a local church that actually demands to see the members tax returns….to make sure they’re giving their tithe. If true, this is appalling. And infuriating.

                1. It gets better when you remember how many “churches” response to one of their members in need of help can be summed up as “fuck you! That would take money away from our Africa outreach programs!”.

                  1. Or in the case of the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) the “Unity Program.” Translated: melanin. We need melanin in all its forms, preferably African. For reasons. And you all are racist.

                    1. Not money, but we left one congregation over similar. (Mom and Dad were both active, with Dad as treasurer) ‘Twas in the midst of the civil rights marching era, and the minister was a carpetbagging* marcher. Dad had a heart attack–serious enough so that I was shipped off to my aunt’s for the summer. Said minister was too busy planning his next trip to visit Dad. Mom blew up at altar guild, and a day later the minister finally found our front door. When I got home, we were in another congregation. Switched from ALC to LCA, though the Wokeness was just barely starting to manifest in the latter.

                      (*) Somehow, civil rights in Selma were more important to Chicago area ministers than in Chicago itself.

                    2. I grew up Southern Baptist and went over to Methodist, and I had never heard of a church asking for tax records. The closest I’ve come was a quote from a district superintendent (Methodist official) solemnly telling us the most important thing a congregation could do was pay their apportionment on time. We did not get on well with her.

            1. My husband once remarked that his mother wanted to join some Protestant congregation way back when (sometime between the 1950s & 80s), and bailed when they demanded tax, ssn, wage info, etc. . To set the tithe, I guess. I gather she was basically unchurched. His family eventually became Catholic. I grew up Catholic and was shocked that a church would demand that.

              But that would explain how some Protestant churches can have fewer money problems than and spend less time asking for donations than Catholics. Which it is my impression they do. Or did. As they have gone sloppy they lose people.

          1. Potato, Tuberous Root Vegetable. He also refers to them as followers of the ruler of thw world. AKA, Satan.

        3. Yeah, but a lot of loud leftists are quite sure that Jesus agrees with THEM about everything.

          1. And they’ll happily misquote the Bible to “prove” their point. Even the devil can quote scripture…

            1. I’ve only met the ones who quote Scripture correctly and refuse to admit it has no relevance.

        4. >> “The blogger who will remain nameless”

          I disagree with a lot of what he says too, but what is the point of giving him the Lord Voldemort treatment? Do you think it does anything other than amuse him and play right into his “Supreme Dark Lord” schtick?

          1. If I understand correctly, it literally is the Lord Voldemort treatment… as in the last book where the bad guys set up a spell to let them find people who said it. That is, there are names that don’t get typed out here because certain people routinely search for them and turn up to be tiresome on the subject.

            1. … and turn up to be tiresome on the subject.

              They’re tiresome on far more than the subject. They’re tiresome on any and every subject.

          2. It has more to do with the fact that for a while he (or his minions) seemed to show up to start fights any time he was mentioned. As well as a few incidents of beating up straw Sarah. It’s less ‘dark lord’ and more ‘don’t inspire the crazy neighbor to start screaming… again.’

          3. It’s for the same reason as a certain politician was generally referred to as Luap Nor. There are people who obsessively search for mentions of the doofus and flood comment sections.

      2. They’re not baby killers. And of course they support religious freedom. But they voted for those who do want to murder babies in job lots, and for those who are currently attempting to destroy religious freedom (along with other forms of freedom) through the “Equality Act”.

      3. (Waves at Mrs. Hoyt and mumbles something about exercising extreme restraint in ignoring The Topic That Must Not Be Named Lest Something Be Summoned.)

    2. Every so often, I lost my temper at filk conventions. Usually in the middle of the main filk room. At full volume. Not advised if you care about dignity, but it did push back the Overton window a bit. For a while, not forever, but for a while.

      Shrug. I wish I had done more, but I also tend to look like a crazy person when I lose my temper. In-person argument is not my strength.

  7. The corollary to “shout” is “prepare to defend others who are shouting.” How many times have we seen (or been) the lone person expressing an opinion, only to later receive dozens of backchannel communications: “Thank you for saying that”, “I agree with you but I can’t say anything,” “you are so brave,” etc.

    If every one of those backchannel people stepped up during the fray to support the lone voice in public, then the lone voice wouldn’t be alone. And more people would step up. And then we would discover we aren’t just half the country. We are more than half. We agree on a lot more than we think we do.

    But the quiet people who reserve their ‘yes, me too’ messages for later, when it’s too late, and when the lone voice has taken the beating for them… I’m sorry. It’s time for us to defend our own. We have to stop isolating our first voices, and back them up. Because you *will* be outed, and then the mob will come for you, and not all the silence in the past will save you. :/

    1. I’d say this–standing up with another–is almost more important than standing up yourself.

        1. Oh man did I get an ear full running for office this time. Opponent is a guy, about 10 years older than me, both family guys, both retired vets, both professionals, we agree on about 80% of the goals for the town. Biggest difference is how we go about doing that. I’m a conservative Republican, he’s a moderate Democrat (still means he’s to the left of nuts, but you can reason with him.) So many people on both sides couldn’t understand how I could even talk to him, much less have anything in common. And of course there were others who didn’t think there was any difference between us. /sigh The guy would be a good asset if we could convert/guide him to the Right.

          1. I’ve occasionally asked some candidate “Why are you a Democrat?” Never got an answer (beyond the usual boilerplate), but seems to me with the rare rational ones, there oughta be an opening in there somewhere.

          2. If he can be turned I think you’re the one to do it. High persuasive ability plus the desire to mend, repair, restore will do the trick.

            1. I think the Socratic method would work best on him. Problem is, that requires time, repetition, and occasionally providing sources without looking like you’re trying to cherry pick the spoon full you’re trying to feed him.

              1. I’ll pray for a “let’s have a beer” meeting. If and when you turn him, he’s going to be a powerful force amongst his former tribe.

                1. Are you kidding? The instant they find out he’s been talking to One Of Those People he’s an enemy.

                  1. Pish. You’re right. What was I thinking? He’ll have to come over to our side just for protection.

                    I think it was a Freudian slip–hoping I was living in the world when I was 8, not 61.

              2. Only happens if he wants to change. Like any addiction, you have to have a *reason* to change. Also, the amount of information it takes to refute BS is at minimum one order of magnitude greater. Expect significant time to be devoted if you go the Socratic route.

                1. I have to offer Brandolini’s Law: The amount of energy required to refute BS is exponentially greater than required to produce it. Joe’s Corollary: This includes bandwidth, and time as well.

    2. If even one does it, the bullies flip out.

      ….I maaaaaaaay be one of those annoying people who, when she’s standing in line and someone is being a Horrible Customer, will do that stupid passive-aggressive “tell the kids that they will never behave like that” loud enough that the bully can hear.

      1. I’m the person in line behind you laughing and trying to catch your eye to give you a thumbs up.

      2. You mean I’m not the only one? Who knew! Especially when the one being targeted has to grit teeth and take it.

        I have been then confronted by said bully. Not often, but it has happened. Response depends. It is harder to come up with the On-Demand-Water-Works. When I could, when you are 5’4″ and female, that has an interesting broader reaction. Especially accompanied with “What did I do?” Now I regulated to just “What? Oh, did I say that aloud?”, “What? You heard that? Really?” (my voice does not normally carry), “I wasn’t talking to you.” (About you, yes, but that part is left off.) I can get away with these now because, 5’4″, female, AND older than 60, with the very white hair to go with. At worse the responses now are thumbs up and/or clapping from those like Kathy, and a glare from the bully.

        1. Closest I’ve come is the bully calling me a “b*tch.”

          After the first time, I kept the response of “clearly, you are a subject expert” prepared. (Thank you, Winston Churchill.)

          1. Don’t you know that the highest expression of any virtue is to invite others to run roughshod over it with nary a whisper of complaint?

            1. I guess not. The bad news for them? As I’ve gotten older my comment filter has dissolved … I don’t have one. Didn’t learn that one from mom. Learned this from grandmothers. Oh, don’t get me wrong, mom is a shining example, now, as she transitioned into grandmother, and great-grandmother. Hubby has also been a influence. He’s NEVER had a comment filter.

              1. Mine barely works. OTOH, living in a flyover county means I don’t have quite as much opportunity to need my filters. I have to be careful when I’m westside, with the worst assortment of Karens and Kyles at Costco.

                I still remember the food nazis telling us that sugar-free Swiss Miss wasn’t good for us. I conspicuously ignored them (we bought 6 at a time–before Costco dropped the stuff, hmm) while $SPOUSE gave them the death stare and a mind-your-own-business comment. Of course, it’s now the mask police, and I’m *very* careful with CCW in there. No “unfortunate incidents” in Oregon, and I don’t plan to be the first.

                1. I’m *very* careful with CCW in there. No “unfortunate incidents” in Oregon, and I don’t plan to be the first.

                  Do not blame you.

                  We don’t have CCW permits. Now I’m wondering the wisdom of sending in an application.

                  1. The only reason not to do so is if your sheriff would go along with any requests to dox CCW owners. We’ve had a few generations of sheriffs who have said they’d release the data over *somebody’s* dead body. $SPOUSE dislikes to carry firearms (waiting for opportunity to try the .22 revolver–small hands make for problems), but it’s available,and makes the knife less iffy.

                    Not hard to get a permit so far. We had a late friend do the talk for a nominal fee (though my previous GunSite training would have sufficed–didn’t know), and there are lots of courses available. Oregon doesn’t have the target shooting requirement, so the training is common sense plus law. Good throughout the West, modulo the People’s Republic of Kalifornia. (Yet another reason for me to avoid Illinois, too.)

                    1. Oregon doesn’t have the target shooting requirement, so the training is common sense plus law.

                      We are in Oregon too. Southern Willamette Valley … specifically Eugene, which we know is crazy. Not sure where the Lane County Sheriff department is on the whole compliance 2nd Amendment adherence despite what FICUS, his handlers, and Herr Brown, legislate, or EO issue, “law” is.

                      Hubby took the required class but didn’t follow through on the paperwork. He needs to retake it now. I need to take it. Wasn’t planning on it, but I know CW will be stored in the vehicle when we are traveling. The vehicle is never alone. Not because of CW (he generally leaves his wallet behind too), because of my Service Dog. Legally a non-CCWP person can’t be inside a vehicle with a CW if the person with the CCWP carrier isn’t there. Not even to water/feed/re-seat-belt-in service dog.

                      OTOH if HB 127 passes … Step too far? Then too for, at least MT and WY residents, requiring a CCWP is a step too far. They are strangely vague (hinting at “no”) about non-residents being allowed to CCW. (Might have researched it for our latest trip to YNP/Tetons this last fall.) Ultimately he did CCW the small .380 (I think that is what it is). It was in the trailer when we traveled there and back … then we had another boat accident. We sold the dang boat 🙂

                    2. (waiting for opportunity to try the .22 revolver–small hands make for problems)

                      Try the sig p365 series? Now that they have the bugs worked out it is a damn fine platform.

                    3. What a sheriff might release and what a hacker might release are not always the same thing. Moreover, do not disregard a disgruntled or ambitious* deputy letting the cats out of bags.

                      *Deputy Fife might imagine a leak of the information would be injurious to the sheriff and encourage public support for an experienced replacement who knows the county.

                    4. At least in our county, most, if not all of the deputies would consider leaking that information as contrary to their sense of survival. The last I heard, about 1/3rd of the eligible people here have a CCW. That would be a lot of pissed off people. Any hacker would need to be *very* careful if he did the same.

                      The Dems in Salem are trying a bunch of draconian gun control measures–trouble lies ahead. Big time.

                  2. I don’t know the Sig, but the Kel-Tec P3AT was a problem. She can handle (though not shoot well–need to get a bunch of range time) the Ruger LCR in .38. I bought her the .22 LCR variant (as well as a Mark IV-45 for myself 🙂 ) that we think she’ll do better with. I keep trying to talk her into a 20 ga or a .410 shotgun–though in a 12 ga might be instructive. Not sure how she handles recoil. No 20 ga arms or ammo on hand (if any is on the market), and I have a lonely box of .410 with nothing to shoot it with. (Used to have a Thompson-Center carbine.)

                    With the knee blowout fiasco, the budget is a bit uncertain, especially after the ham radio gear acquisition. Probably should stay with what we have. I *think* insurance will cover most of it, maybe.

    3. My leftist sister who works in the whole climate-scam industry was trying out her latest pitch on my wife during a family gathering. I loudly called her out on her bullshit, pointed out that she was not merely incorrect in her statements but actively *lying* on several of them also. She was reduced to sputtering “You have to take my word for it — I’m an EXPERT!”

      Later on while the gathering was breaking up and I was getting ready to leave, a couple of my bros-in-law came up to me and quietly said “Thank you for shutting her down.” She’s not brought up anything remotely political in any family gathering where I’ve been present in the 4 years since either.

  8. Most of the loud political conversations on the Right weren’t in public. They were in back rooms, barbeques, at Aryan Nations and other far Right organization meetings. You might get some semi-public loud noises at an outdoor sports show, as long as it wasn’t catering to the eco-freaks.

    Based on my great grandfather, grandfather, and father, I used to think the Masons were a fairly conservative Right organization; now I suspect even they have been infiltrated by the Progressive-Left.

    1. Aryan Nations is not far right. You’re spreading lies.

      NO ONE I KNOW who is a conservative subscribes to anything that aligns with white supremacy.

      Any organization that is very extremist is by definition NOT right. We are overwhelmingly willing and wanting to build, not destroy. We are generally speaking centrist, in the sense we are willing to view people on character and merit first, last, and always…..race is meaningless to almost all of us.

      1. We are overwhelmingly willing and wanting to build, not destroy.

        That is “extremism”. Most of history involves more normal attitudes and the ensuing Heinleinian Bad Luck.

        And this entire country was founded on “extremism” in the footsteps of a bunch of Englishmen failing to pull their county in the direction of “extremism” some years before.

  9. YES!

    My aim is to whisper in every commie ear “you are not safe, comrade” and then stand back and watch them spin.

    It can be as easy as sending a letter to the mayor of a city informing said mayor that employees of a certain grocery store chain are being lied to, terrorized, and weaponized against his constituents. With the ‘Rona lie, of course. Throw the rock in a pond next to the one you want to influence, and watch the ripples.


    1. I printed up a sheet of stickers that say “Trump 1 (and everybody knows it)”, and every now and then I’ve been leaving one somewhere obvious.

      I’m actually quite surprised at how long they’ve been staying up.

        1. Shades of “Boys Life” and the Cub Scout Leader’s Guide to keeping 6 to 10 year old scouts and their siblings engaged in monthly meetings. Might have heard some of these, in various forms, in Girl Scouts back in the day.

    1. I want so badly to shame you for inflicting that on us, but the fact that I got pretty much all of those jokes tells me I probably don’t have the moral high ground here.

      1. …Although, I may technically be allowed to hit you with a carp 50 times in a row now. Hey Sarah, can I get a rules check? 😛

  10. he was much further to the left 20 years ago

    I want to do my ‘more right than thou’ shtick, and rag on Glenn for not doing more, but he is actually doing a lot more than I have been willing to do.

    1. Yep – and doing so in academe. His visibility is high enough now that if his academic employer did anything it would be national news, but he was publicly making his positions clear from the start, before he attained blogfather status.

      If a new Instapundit was just starting up authored by an academic it would be mobbed by the safe space crowd to try and get the author fired.

      1. Yes. I’ve been amazed that he’s been able to “get away” with being so openly not-Progressive and keep his job. OTOH, he probably knows where bodies et al are buried, who buried them, and where the financial documents and contracts are filed . . .

  11. It is amazing how much “controversy” can be stirred up by the simple statement, “Well, that’s not entirely accurate.” or “To be fair…” I did that a while back on a high school friend’s FB page with regard to people calling for Biden to be impeached before he was sworn in. I pointed out that the same thing had happened with Trump. Got back. “Oh. I didn’t know that.” Not much, but a public admission of not knowing (really simply not paying attention to) something that should have been obvious.

    And, yes speaking up in support of others is extremely important. Also it’s imperative to begin telling all those back-channel supporters that they should have spoken up earlier if they really cared.

    1. Yes – and to be calm, clear, factual and have all your references at hand. You might not win the argument with the loudest voice … but you might very well win over those who are watching quietly.

      1. This is the route I want to go, but my problem has been sources. I mention things that folks here would consider obvious and are only discussed outside of the MSM to east coast liberals, and I get “you’re misinformed,” “that’s fake news,” etc. What to do when they won’t accept any source right of NYT or WP? I don’t know what to do and I am so tired of listening to the leftist talking points out of people who can’t seem to see the forest for the trees.

        1. “I’m sorry you have such a narrow view of news.” “I guess you don’t believe in reading multiple sources.”

          Sometimes, just that and walking away. They don’t want to hear facts that get in the way of their “great” story.

          1. Hi Becky,

            Walking a way from the argument is certainly one option, but what to do when it’s one’s “pet liberal?” I would still rather try persuasion than cut this person out of my life at this time.

    2. “I was there when it happened, and this is what I remember from the event in question.” That works great once you’ve established your street-creds already, and the other party/parties know that you don’t BS them.

      1. A drawled, “Really? Who told you that … and why did you believe them?” often works wonders.

        As does a simple, “That’s not the way I heard it.”

  12. Shout? Go ahead.

    Me, I’ll keep doing what I’ve been doing for many decades, doing what I dang well please and quietly explaining to the left that they’re Bat Sh_ _ Crazy.

  13. Short comments on speech, fear, and timing.

    A few years back, at an HOA meeting in my old neighborhood, I was fat chewing with some attendees. They were talking about what their wives watched on the tube, news in particular. One of the guys actually was a CNN employee. I remarked that I didn’t trust the MSM because they were either pushing an ideology or had no clue as to what was really going on. Blank stares in my direction and the group quickly dispersed.

    Watched Biden last night for 3 minutes and he lied twice. Turned it off.

    Prospective juror(s) afraid to be on jury of George Floyd cop trial as they would fear for their lives if they didn’t find the cop guilty of 3rd degree murder, at least.

    If we don’t speak up and stand up now, when it’s easier, the old questions about if not us and if not now, then who and when come into play.

    1. You know, it’s so tempting to round up an honest judge, couple of honest lawyers, and 12 other honest citizens, crash the Floyd cop or Rittenhouse trials, and declare the current jury and judge invalid, and replace them with our group.

      1. The settlement by the city while jury selection is ongoing seems like a clear case of jury tampering/intimidation. “Go ahead, vote to acquit.We’ll dox you and string you up next to the defendant.” I hope yet another change of venue petition gets placed for the immediate appeal. Kangeroo courts have nothing on this one.

        1. A) It seems (former) officer Chauvin’s optimal outcome from this ordeal is conviction, overturned on appeal … with no telling how far up the system the appeal will have to go. Federal appellate, in all likelihood, possibly to the SCOTUS. Sucks.

          B) Any idea what the over/under on riots is if when he is convicted? Are we betting on hours or days? (If acquitted we’re probably talking weeks of rioting.)

          1. Apparently the Breonna Taylor incident triggered some reforms. So much for that on the anniversary. I wonder if we’ll get 365 days worth of rioting until the adults get frightfully annoyed.

    2. In defense of Figurehead Joe, he’s lost a step over the years. Why, I remember when he could drop four lies a minute without breaking a sweat.

  14. Whenever I see the machinations of the “bien pensants”, I think Ben P*ssants, and wonder who this “Ben” guy might be.

    1. I am happy his Blue Whatever employees have been consistently and extensively ripping him off for all these years instead of actually building rockets – he’s otherwise got that supervillain vibe down pat, and you never want to give the supervillain the rocket factory.

    2. Similar to my desire for a recording of our esteemed hostess saying “Moose and squirrel”, I want a recording of Jeff Bezos saying “No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!”

      1. One of my customers has a laser cutter with a work table that could accomodate full-size automobile with room to spare. It has its own generator for power, and normally is used to making intricate cuts on thick steel plate.

        It could cut Bond *and* his Aston Martin into intricate eggshell art.

        Hey, technology marches on…

      2. What, and screw up his obvious resemblance to Lex Luthor?

        Someone needs to go to an event he’s attending cosplaying as Superman, and tell him he’s not going to get away with it.

  15. I’ve spent most of my life being an Odd, but too essential to fire. I worked for a liberal corporation and wasn’t quiet. I did get less than subtle political suggestions and ignored them. There is a character in Niven and Pournelle’s Oath of Fealty that I liked. When someone was trying to get him to do something politically, he might instead be found replumbing their apartment.

    I can’t get out like I once could and wish I could be louder. I do what I can. Letters to politicians even when confirming what they are already doing and other such actions have value and can be done from home. I know people that live in liberal areas that say it is a waste of time. I disagree. We don’t know when a small action could make all the difference. So I keep doing what I can and encouraging those I can to do the same.

  16. I don’t have very many in-person venues for pushing back, since we’re pretty socially isolated. But I resolve to do more to push back where I can, because it’s time. “The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.”

    1. There have been several songs by that name, including versions by the Isley Brothers (and covered by Lulu, the Temptations and the Blues Brothers), but I believe the one Sarah was thinking of was this Tears for Fears song:


      1. Here is the Blues Brothers performance of the Isley Bros. hit:

        It was also featured in Animal House, performed by Otis Day & The Knights.

  17. OK I’ll bite. How do I set up a blog or website so that no one can find out who I am? If I write stuff, I will be canceled in my line of work, period.

      1. >> “well, you can buy domains anonymously”

        Hmm… I would like more details on this. This doesn’t sound like something you can do with cash, and now I’m curious how you’d do it electronically without it being traceable. I seem to recall hearing that even cryptocurrency exchanges can be tracked if the government really wants to.

        I suppose you could buy gift cards with cash and use those to make the payments?

  18. If you cannot shout, then laugh. These clowns HATE not beig taken seriously – but if they want to be taken as serious they ought not act so childishly.

    1. Mock, mock, and mock again. Mockery is their due, and delivering a good laugh in the onlookers at their expense is only just.

  19. Not directly related, except in terms of speaking/staying quiet (or trashing someone or something) but:

    Is it right to leave a good review of a book/show etc. that has interesting characters and tells a great story, but the message is pure poison?

    Is it right to give a bad review?

    I’ve been re-reading Caleb Carr’s The Alienist after seeing the first couple episodes of the TV series and the elements the showrunners unsurprisingly chose to play up. I remembered reading that book 10-plus years ago and liking it a lot, but was it really that bad?

    On the re-read, the book was still quality: good characters and an excellent setup: trying to solve murders and catch a serial killer when everyone is against the main characters, but now I noticed something that had slipped past me.

    The whole book is a lecture pushing the blank slate.

    The narrator literally says so near the end of the first part.

    Society/religion/the family are the REAL villains for creating the serial killer and preventing the heroes from solving the crime with their stupid, primitive traditions and superstitions.

    Free will is an illusion. Everything we are is a result of early childhood teaching (and so presumably we can ‘fix’ that with all sorts of experimental teaching, conducted by our good and noble alienist – C.S. Lewis had a few things to say about conditioners and experimenting on children)

    So, should I praise the book for it’s excellent story? Condemn it for it’s evil message? Stay silent?

    Normally, I would be inclined to leave a positive review and explain my reasoning, but we don’t live in normal times, and I don’t want to boost the book with another five-star review.

    1. Unsolicited opinion- what about splitting the difference and giving three stars with a long comment if you feel moved to leave a review? Am I the only person who tends to start with the three and four star reviews when shopping for something, as I figure that too many of the ones and fives have an agenda (or are clueless) rather trying to give an informative review?

    2. In evaluating the work of a Richard Upton Pickman, is not the technique, the application of paint, use of pigment, employment of brush all to a purpose: the ultimate picture being created? Is excellent technique used to advance a horrific purpose not corrupt? Are good means advancing an ignoble end not themselves corrupt, more so the better their usage?

      We’re generally agreed that ends do not justify means, but certanily the means can be deemed perverted by the ends to which they strive. By this light you can give a single star in review while praising the artist’s skill and deploring the purpose in whose service he deploys it.

      1. One thing I’ve always hated was when leftists give people like Nick Cole/Jason Anspach and our own hostess one-star reviews while admitting that the story was good, they just didn’t like the ‘message.’ I never wanted to do that, but these days what consideration do I really owe them, when I know it won’t be reciprocated?

        1. Bob and RES,

          Bob, that’s why I was suggesting a 3 star review. However, RES makes a good point about not praising something that’s been perverted.

          1. I think the Leni Riefenstahl doctrine applies here: while her movies are undeniably technical and artistic triumphs, the purpose to which her art is applied is beyond loathsome. One might legitimately accord Triumph des Willens two or even three stars on the grounds that its cinematic technique is something all aspiring filmmakers ought study, while noting the ends are anathematic.


    3. The message obviously displeased you. You don’t have to leave things that displease you out of consideration in something so subjective as a review.

  20. A man stopped me on the street yesterday as I was walking my dog and children–“Have you seen the news??” This is a sufficiently unusual opening that I stopped, concerned there’d been an attack or something since I’d left.

    …but, no, he wanted to talk about how “the President just signed the relief bill!” and pontificate about how much money my household was due to receive.

    I rather wish I’d read this before then, as all I managed was a demure “I just hope the money supply retains its value” and moved on.

    Maybe it’s enough–I think he was expecting someone to gloat with him? But certainly could have been an opportunity not to let him think every passer-by was overjoyed at His Fraudulency -_-;

    1. The other day my mother said Biden wanted to give me $2,000 and shouldn’t I be grateful?

      I wanted to spit.

      Quite apart from the devalued money, when I consider how much income I LOST because my hours were cut…

      I had to get out of there.

    2. I got this one recently too. “You should have your check by now!”

      Me: “Um, no?”

      “Everyone gets the money, just check your bank!”

      Me, thinking: ‘I do not have time to stop and have this fight.’ -_-

      1. Yeah, as an “Essential Worker” (Essential for Washington State’s tax base), I’ve had enough income that from the last round, I got a whopping $58. I expect nothing from this round.

      2. How about, “I would much rather they hadn’t taken it from me in the first place.”

    3. the President


      Ohhhhh! He means The Autopen of the United States!

      As for the money, I figure the most appropriate thing is to spend it of guns / ammo / gun parts. Getting a nice scope for my 20″ AR. I’ll think of them every time I use it (FBI THAT IS A JOKE).

      1. This! Any unwanted gov fiat money should go to guns and ammo before the Zombie Prez does more to destroy the right to bear arms.

      2. This! Prior agreement in moderation. Some day may be I’ll figure moderation. Maybe I’m not moderate; I like that!

        1. WP sometimes gets a hair up its butt and sends entirely appropriate comments to moderation; that does not constitute evidence that you are moderate.

          I, OTOH, am the embodiment of moderate. It is my sad fate to be surrounded everywhere by extremists.

          Yet I remain unmoved.

          1. Yet I remain unmoved.

            May I recommend psyllium fiber, then?

            On moderation for immoderates:

            WP has one or two hard and fast rules that get you sent to moderation, and a variety of glitches, including the ever-popular “I’m not going to update the comments until *I* feel like it”–wait a few minutes and see if the comment counter updates.

            1) Two or more real links posted. The workaround is to use www dot this-is-bogus dot com
            2) Using a new ID. If there’s a typo in either your name or the email addy, you are likely to hit moderation.
            2a) changing the name.

            On occasion, WP simly doesn’t recognize a valid set. Happened to me yesterday(?), so I reposted. I *think* the old one got trashed. If not, sorrya bout that. (You get an avatar–on a good day, WP will update the avatar before you post. On a bad day, remember that WPDE stands foe WordPress Delenda Est.)

            1. Hey! I’m working the crappy joke beat!

              As to WP Moderation:
              Sometimes WP will permit two links, although it is rare and ought not be pushed. It seems most inclined to permit multiple picture links, such as jpg and/or png, although WP is most irregular in its willingness to do so.

              On other occasions, rather than accepting a post or notifying you of it being sent to moderation, WP will offer up the advisory that (quoting loosely) “This post could not be posted.” In such instances nothig seems to work but using the back arrow, clicking on the “Reply” button to open a window which (if you’re lucky, punk) will contain the text you tried but failed to post. Copying that to your clipboard (or some other intermediary) while closing the tab and opening a new one for the post, then scrolling (or CTRL-F-ing) to the appropriate comment, then clicking on the “Reply” butto should then permit you to re-paste the text and post successfully.

              And, of course, sometimes WP just Will Not Accept a particular comment for reasons not to be revealed.

              Which is why WP Delenda Est.

              1. Hey! I’m working the crappy joke beat!

                After the psyllium reference, I’m going to ignore the straight line. (Quietly adjusts halo, ignoring the tarnished spots.)

                Haven’t run into the “can not post” error, though it might be because I’m using the non-member defaults.


                1. I use the non-member default settings too. At worst it posts and has a “in moderation tag”. Otherwise post “appears to go into the vapor” and not show up, at least immediately. Sometimes if I refresh a few times it’ll show up sooner rather than later. Otherwise sometimes I don’t know it showed up until/when/if someone replies to that comment. If it shows, okay. If it doesn’t, oh well.

                  1. Various times, WP will stop updating for 3 to 5 minutes. It happens slightly more often on high traffic posts, but as usual, it varies. WP completely eating a post is mercifully rare.

    4. My answer: if it’s for our financial relief, why do we only get one percent of the money?

        1. I lost a tooth a couple of days before knee repair, but the nerve went with the broken bit. I really need to see the dentist and start the four-tooth partial process before missing tooth #1 gets joined by the others.

    5. A proper response these days would probably be to complain that the bill is going to cost taxpayers a lot more than it did under Trump, while not providing the 2K that Trump wanted to offer.

      That will get people’s attention

      1. Those who express thankfulness for the $1400 (Trump already provided $600, remember, though he gets no credit for it) call to mind the stories of folks getting mugged in Harlem, losing their cash, credit cards and ID stolen but being grateful for their assailant giving them back $5 “for cab fare”.

        As one former president reportedly said in similar circumstances, “You’d better put some ice on that.”

        1. I got a notification the other day that the money was being directly deposited into my bank account. It was *not* $1400.

          1. We got a check the first time, a Visa Card the second. Although this year we got a refund so they now have our “deposit” information. Note it is the same account we’ve used for the “payment” information they get every tax year, for the last 20+ years, but whatever. Technically our income went down last year. Pensions were exactly the same. Our net SS’s went up; his by about $100, mine by about $1300 (I don’t pay medicare, yet). Why the drop? We withdrew about $35k less from the taxable savings last year (and $70 less than before I turned 62 and my SS kicked in). Let’s just say for our household $35k was the 2020 cost to the economy (and state and federal taxes).

            1. The last two stinuli were checks, though we try to avoid getting money back. Not possible this year because reasons.

              1. Exactly. We prefer to pay … not like we have to pay them interest, usually.

                2020 tax year? It was a $2500 swing. We paid $900 for 2019 taxes owed. We didn’t change a thing on withholding. We have withholding done from his pension and taxable withdraws, but not from my pension (a whole $123/month) or either SS. In fact we were a bit surprised we didn’t have to pay + pay penalty for under payment. But the way the math works, a lot less of our SS was federally taxable. State we’re in refund territory no matter what we do. We can’t reduce the auto payment to a low enough percentage to make up for no federal tax due on SS, sort of 0% and then filing quarterly, which I guess “we” don’t want to do. FYI. Feds have deposited the refund, already. State? WTHK? OTOH we electronically filed Feds. We snail mailed State (we know they got them). No way am I paying them to do their data entry. I’ll electronically file state when it is free.

    6. Properly, that money was first taken from me and mine in the form of taxes. I would much prefer that the government cut wasteful spending and enact entitlement reform such that means testing weeds out the grifters from the needy.

      If the government actually wanted to *help* the helpless, they would waste less of the working men and women’s money on frivolous details such that we could spend more on actual charity cases *ourselves* rather than depending on daddy gubmint to bribe the credulous and the lazy.

      Put simply, no thank yous for returning the 2k that I lent you under threat of law. Stop devaluing the currency, quit wasting my time and money, enforce the rule of law impartially, and return the power you’ve seized and then we’ll talk.

    7. I’d be tempted to respond by nodding and saying, “Yes! I’ve heard the good news. It’s all in the Bible! Have you read it?” Accompanied by a beaming expression and that special shine of fanaticism in the eyes, this response likely would send the annoying pest scurrying for safety.

      1. Exorcise him as he runs. He probably needs it. And come on, what could it hurt?
        “Come out of this man demons of socialism, demented ghosts of the demons who possessed Marx, infamous evil spirits who drove Mao to genocide. Out, I command you in the name of He who made man individual and capable of free will.”
        Bonus points if you can speak in a fake Southern accent.

  21. In our social circle, we have been shouting for over 15 years now. We have been ostracized by those we thot friends…stabbed in the back viciously and repeatedly. All that did was cause us to scream louder. Interestingly, folks started to sidle up to us and quietly say hey I’m a conservative too! Our little group got bigger and bigger. Others started standing up to the libs. And over the last year, the shouting has gotten so loud that the libs have shit and lost their minds on social media so badly that the ppl who were borderline conservative have now come to us and said holy cow is THIS what you were warning about? Yes, yes indeedy.

    So now…the conservatives, even the closet ones, are pushing back. The last few years of lies have done them in and frankly the pandemic response made them all say wait this is about control. And then the election….the closet conservatives are no longer in the closet. They are out and unafraid. In many cases they are yelling. I’ve seen them tell these supposed upperclass wannabe libs that they are full of crap and then go on to argue logically, as well as flat out say hey I’m not stupid so stop treating me like this.

    It is frankly awesome. And they are also realizing their kids’ educations need to be monitored as well.

    Overall, this could wind up being a good thing. DJT as kingmaker for the RNC, and a truly AWAKE conservative party.

          1. Hell, what *ISN’T* there a kink for?

            No matter how perversely obscenely obscenely perverse…. it seems there is a kink/fetish around it.

  22. Another thing to not be silent about. There is a new story here In Wisconsin that Mark Zuckerberg contributed $6 million to the five largest Democratic counties in the state.Email show that in Green Bay A democratic operative from New York was placed in charge of absentee ballots contrary to Wisconsin law. The Democratic operative was given access to all absentee ballot several days before counting was to have begun and completely displaced the role of the county clerk who has the legal responsibility to take care of all absentee ballot given the close margin of violence victory in Wisconsin the efforts in the six counties I’m down to play accounts for the entire margin of Biden’s victory. This is a new story.

      1. I don’t know, the phrase ‘a close margin of violence in Wisconsin’ sounds entirely reasonable to me after last summer…

        1. Yes close…..,. Cause for word was rushed dictation as I had to run off for vaccination part 2. Actual word was Biden, not violence. Perhaps subconsciously used.

    1. This story has been trying to break the surface for weeks. And it’s not getting wide play. Yet.

    2. The Democrats embraced Stalin’s statement about the importance of who counts the votes, and intend to ensure that they are the ones who decide who gets to run and who counts the votes. Their goal is for elections to be as meaningful as those held by the Soviet Union under Stalin.

    1. Yes , no real error. The Dem operatives in the 5 Wisconsin counties were placed in charge of absentee ballots and given all keys to absentee storage in advance of Election Day . This authority was in a contract between the Zuckerberg organization and the Democratic county; if the county did not put the Dem operative in charge of absentee ballots ( contrary to State law) each county would have to return $1 million.
      Not surprisingly, 10 times normal absentee ballots ( due to illegal change ignoring State law) resulted in a ballot rejection rate only 10 % that found in a normal election. This sceme was revealed in it’s entirety by recently released emails, and was subject to a legislative hearing Wednesday.
      Georgia absentee ballots show the same pattern.

      1. Interesting, this is the first time I’ve heard this one. Do you have a source? Ideally, with excerpts from the legislative proceedings and released emails.

  23. I wasn’t at professional gatherings, where Republican presidents were referred to as the next incarnation of Hitler …

    They never had the nerve to say that about Eisenhower, but if you look in a Fifties k for the phrase “Amiable Dunce” you’d find Ike’s picture.

    1. Ironically given our current incredible national debt acceleration into the trillions of dollars, President Eisenhower did the most to retire the huge debt from World War II. He was an exceptional president.

    2. I’m also pretty…err mostly..err kinda sure that people were not yet dumb enough to associate the guy that led the armies that invaded Europe probably wasn’t equivalent to the guy went to defeat.

  24. they never had the people, they just had control of the means of mass communication AND managed to cow everyone who dissented

    Back in the day nobody much bothered writing “Letters to the Editor” of the local paper because if you truly nailed them it would never make it into print, or if printed would be “edited for space considerations” in such way as to make you look the idiot. That was generally true of the morning (Democrat) or evening (Republican) paper and became more so as the papers grew combined. But at least there were two voices in he community and you’d a chance of seeing an Anthony Lewis refuted by a Sid Harris. Heck, even the NY Times suffered the indignity of granting valuable OpEd space twice a week to ex-Nixon speech writer William Safire (and the newsroom didn’t riot … or, if it did, the paper’s editors told them the approved procedure for resigning.)

  25. … they must attribute to [Trump] Svengali-like powers to whip up the mob

    Well, that is how they do it (have you noticed the MSM fainting spells over Biden’s Thursday night mumble?) Or they have a crowd of paid supporters, trained to cheer on demand.

  26. The historical museum in Nantes, France was putting on an exhibition about the Mongols in cooperation with a Chinese museum. it was postponed because of the lockdowns but the Chinese also began to impose conditions on the loan which would effectively deny that the Mongols are a distinct people. The museum refused the conditions and cancelled the exhibition. First, China is Assho. Second, can you imagine any American museum doing anything similar. I can’t. I think the French may, with justice, begin calling us cheese eating surrender monkeys. We do, in fact, eat more cheese than they do and our institutions have surrendered.

    1. The heirs of Chinggis Khan in the actual nation of Mongolia would disagree emphatically.

      And they have no illusions about what the Han want to do to them – they’ve been increasing their ties and hosting training opportunities with the US military for years.

      1. To most of the world, One China is all they know and ever knew, for most of their lives. This is the constant refrain of the CCP, all Approved Sources, Allies, and Paid Sycophants. You won’t find many references that dispute this, and the revisionist history of China is one of the biggest elephants in that particular room. They have one of the most sophisticated technological repression/oppression campaigns I’ve ever seen.

        That signals, rather loudly, that there are things they very much want to hide, not only from their own people, but the world. The empire of Han is nowhere near the juggernaut they wish it to be.

        1. “{blank} has always been part of Greater China” is something the Han been saying for quite a while.

          That’s the basis for their “One China” story on Taiwan, and that’s also the story on their claim on Tibet. The irony is Tibet was conquered by the Mongol Yuan dynasty, so the actual logical story really should be “Tibet, like China and Korea and Siberia and pretty much most of Russia, was conquered and ruled by the Greater Mongol Empire under Kublai Khan, and thus the Mongol claim takes first precedence.”

          Tibet, like Siberia and much of Russia and Iran and pretty much all of China itself, using that argument is part of Mongolia.

          1. Reminds me of Heinlein in one of the pieces he did about his trip to the Soviet Union about the young Soviet lady who insisted, got quite irate about the idea in fact, that Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia had always been part of Russia. Always. Always. Always.\

            And Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

        2. Except… Youtube. Because China can say all it wants everything it wants, and then millions upon millions of people go “No, you’re not! Mongolians are totally separate and they have cool death metal throat singing!

          Because the CCP may be trying to strangle everything with official propaganda, but they never saw The Hu coming, or anticipated just how far they would go.

          1. Yep, that’s one thing that makes me think the Mongols are more than a passive remnant:

      2. This! It is beyond doubt that most of the women of China were inseminated by Temujin and his troops and their descendants that the Han can no longer be considered a distinct race but rather constitute a sub-race of the Mongol peoples. Tamerlane and his troops re-inseminated them shortly (as eras go) thus ensuring the interbreeding.

        But that probably is ot the spin the CCP wants put on that particular ball.

    2. China has been co-opting anyone they can claim has any close supposed ties toe their country. You have the right features then you should be a part of the Chinese empire. I’d be very scared if I was in any of these countries.

      1. One of the reasons why the Japanese tick off China (even without things like the massacres in World War 2…) so much is because the Japanese have successfully “adapted” a number of things from China while never bowing to the Chinese. For example, China was ruled by an emperor, and every surrounding nation but one was ruled by a king. And kings are lower on the social scale than emprerors The exception, of course, was the barbarian Japanese living in their island archipelago.

        In essence, the Japanese were claiming that their ruler was equal in stature to the ruler of China.

        1. The Japanese of course also declared that their Emperor was a direct descendant of the goddess Amaterasu.

          1. The Japanese have had the same ruling dynasty longer than any other nation on Earth – though they got that in part because they had leaders that were more than willing to let the Emperor remain a figurehead ruler while the Shogun publicly held the reins. In pretty much every other country, a shogun would have eventually deposed his emperor and taken the throne (though I think there were some instances in which a shogun deposed and executed an emperor because the emperor’s brother was easier to control)..

            China historically tends to take a more egalitarian view. They don’t care so much who you’re descended from. If you can take and hold the throne, then the gods must want you to have it. And that applies to *anyone*. The founder of the Han Dynasty – China’s biggest “golden age” dynasty – started out as a farmer. Further, emperors were allowed to “voluntarily” abdicate, and retire to private life (i.e. a lesser title of nobility, guaranteed income through estates granted by the new emperor, and house arrest) instead of being executed by the man who replaced them.

      2. And anyone of Chinese heritage in other countries, as well. They literally cannot conceive of someone of Han descent living in Canada or the US or Europe not wanting to be part of the new Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, or of them having loyalty to the country they were born in.

        1. Like Hitler’s efforts to reach out to Volksdeutsche, even in the US.

          He had problems even in the Baltic states when they knew it was the only escape from Stalin. It didn’t achieve much elsewhere.

          1. One of the Nazis’ greatest blunders was how they treated the Ukrainians, who were ready to welcome the Germans as liberators after enjoying the blessings of Russian communism.

        2. They doubtless find the attitudes of so many citizens of Hong Kong and Taiwan very irrational.

          It reminds me of the Roman complaints about First Century Jews – they could not grasp such stiff-necked refusal to accept merger with the Roman Republic/Empire. Why, they even offered to seat that Jewish god at the right hand of Jupiter!

    3. Um, you mean the same way that American museums now portray the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as unwarranted acts of American aggression, or the many other ways the rewrite history?

      1. But there is no official Japanese government funded “society” that pays US museums to change their tune – while the “Confucius Institutes” funding chain goes directly back to the CCP.

        The change-around-WWII stuff is part of the ongoing echoes of Cold War Soviet Agitprop.

    1. If you’re going to come here just to advertise your site, you should at least make sure the link works.

      1. I’m pretty sure it does work. It may have been temporarily overwhelmed on March 11 because it seems to have had another burst of popularity around then. If you are having issues then I’d actually like to know about them because I’m not seeing them myself. Please send screenshots and more details to boss AT

        1. Fair enough, but there’s not much to screenshot. I just get a generic error message saying:

          This page isn’t working
 redirected you too many times.
          Try clearing your cookies.

          I tried clearing my cookies as directed and it made no difference.

          1. Interesting. I guess you are using a smartphone? It works on a PC but I just reproduced the problem on Android.

            I need to do some more investigation.

            1. I reproduced the issue on my desktop too. I also found that it only applies to the root url.

              I believe I have fixed the issue and I will create a post on the blog explaining the problem which seems to be a weird cloudflare bug/config issue.

            2. No, this is from a desktop. But whatever you did has fixed it for me; the link gets me to your site now.

  27. His Royal Highness, Joe Biden, will soon tell us what we can DO when we have all been vaccinated. So I’m supposed to be grateful and wait on his every word? I’ve been telling people — here is your President-King.

    1. A paper just hit on the significant occurrence of adverse reactions that people who actually had the bug encounter on getting the second shot of vax, though said adverse reactions mostly up from sore where you got eth shot to the level of sore throat, joint pain, and feeling yucky. It also did;t do all that much to increase antibody counts.

      That study does show that the first shot of the vax basically sends the antibody count of a person that had the bug to the moon with little chance of reactions.

      What I want to know is what the heck are they doing giving the vax to people who had the bug – did someone repeal how disease immunity works when I wasn’t looking?

      1. Dammit– you are now anti-science /sarc
        Actually nothing these people have said or done has had any logic behind it. I was incredibly concerned when we were told that we had to have two vaccines. I decided to wait.

        1. The Zombie Flu in John Ringo’s ‘Under A Graveyard Sky’ required a two-stage vaccination; the practice is not unknown.

          What? A good Zombie Apocalypse novel is at least as believable as anything we’ve heard out of the ‘publick health experts’ over the last year. At least John actually researched the science, AND listened to the advice he got from real scientists.

          1. Shingrix shingles vaccine is two shots, so yeah, not unknown. But people with a positive test in their past should bloody well be last in line.

            1. *looks at chart* Being amidst the childhood vaccinations, most of them range from two to five per germ.

              1. *Waggles hand*

                It’s not quite the same thing– the baby shots massively over-do it because of the very tiny immune system they’re in, and I seem to remember being told to reschedule because I was not quite two months after the first shot for one of those boosters.

                Poking around, tetanus (standard) for those who’ve never been immunized is two shots a MINIMUM of a month apart, and then a booster six to twelve months later.

                Not sure about the shingles.

                For those interested:


                Somewhat related, watch for more vaccine stupidity.
                The anti-information is going strong with flat out lies about that “mysteriously contaminated” vaccine from Kenya, where they first insisted the Catholic hospitals were crazy, agreed to third party testing, and then the Kenyan gov’t failed to provide the agreed-on samples and declared the third party testing they had chosen was wrong.
                Seriously saw a supposed “debunking” website that said pregnancy tests were used on the vaccine, and so far nothing mentioning the extremely unusual series of shots that got folks suspicious. One even tried to claim there’d never been an attempt to make a sterilizing vaccine, which is rather impressive…..

            1. Yeah.

              And they had to get funding and then actually do the study to prove it, for some reason.

              I guess they thought CCPC19 could be extraterrestrial and so not behave like every other coronavirus ever seen.

          1. That seems highly dubious. Don’t pharmacies have to wave their hands in mystic passes and chant incantations to make vaccines that work? It cannot simply be a matter of activating the body’s own defense systems – that would mean people who’ve recovered from WuFlu are immune, don’t need masks and can ignore social distancing.

            Among other things, such as the gross government grabbing of our rights was unjustified.

        1. And that observation combined with the actual science from the study behind that paper certainly implies a lot more people had the bug than is recognized.

          1. We were pretty sure we had it back at the end of February, but by the time the antibody tests were available it was too late. The antibodies don’t last that long, and there’s no test available for the T cell thing. We’ve had the first shop and get the second one next week. I guess we’ll see…

              1. “Flu-like-symptoms” is just the “IMMUNE SYSTEM ACTIVATED” flag. That’s why the Doc-visit quiz show is still “Sore throat? Temp? Flu-like symptoms?”

      2. The tests they use to detect antibodies only pick them up for about 2 months after the bout with the virus; so if you were never diagnosed with it because you weren’t tested, which likely happened to a lot of people from fall of 2019 to March 2020, there would be no “proof” you had the virus, and thus must receive both doses of the vaccines.

    2. If we are vaccinated and sit in a corner, double masked, then we might be able to celebrate “Independence Day”. Wonder if Commiela came up with that joke?

        1. It isn’t that they (which includes not only CNN but the entirety of the left) are puzzled about freedom; its that they hate the idea that other people have and desire freedom and resist “doing what they are told” which is always proclaimed to be “for their own good”.

        2. “Invitation to celebrate July 4th with your family”?! What the actual factual?

          1. Steps to celebrate 4th /w family

            1. Spend that stimulus on box tubing, rope, paint, and welding supplies.
            2. Weld up the portable gallows.
            3. Wear black hood and red gloves.
            4. Hang communists.

  28. I’ve admittedly been lucky in that I’ve been in relatively conservative jobs (defense engineering) so I’ve actually not been the farthest right person in conversations and that I’ve managed to get my family to mostly avoid politics, although it came at cost of very nearly tossing myself out of car into oncoming traffic and taking enough sedatives to pass out once at house as well as blocking many of them on media. But I’ve cut lots of ties recently including folks that have gone from trump/brexit to Bernie and hard socialist.

  29. I remember, just after 9/11, hearing people that thought Bush II was going to be Hitler (yet again) being GLAD that he won vs. Al Bore. And, how a lot of people thought that some of the more stupid comments by Nancy Pelosi and her ilk was foolish at best, stupid at worst.

    Pretty much right after that, about 2009-10ish, was when a lot of the “communities” in the SF Bay Area and especially the tech-heavy ones, started to have soft purges of all sorts. A lot of the “professional” people were getting out because they were in the careers that required more of their time, while the “professional activists” were being put more in charge. And, these groups started to change and not for the better. VERY much not for the better. This was when BayCon stopped ambling downhill and fell downhill. Further Confusion went hardcore and very creepy gay. The only reason why Fanime didn’t go down that rabbit hole, I suspect, was that the people in charge realized that they didn’t want to screw up a good thing that they had. And, KublaCon was still the same…mostly.

    (Of course, when Crunchyroll started their own con, they tried to “fix” all the things that Fanime did ‘wrong”…and, oh boy did they screw that up. That, and Fanime was starting to get their own infestation of social justice nuts as well. Including “cleaning up” the adult areas by putting it in a separate venue on the other side of San Jose, and mysteriously almost entirely yaoi. Any non-yaoi material seemed to be kept “in the back” in quite a few places, but the more hard-core yaoi stuff was pretty blatantly out there…)

    I have to raise my voice. The problem is, I feel like I’m the only one screaming about this kind of thing. My throat is sore, I am cold, I am tired, and I am more alone at times than I have been in years.

    But, I’m yelling anyways. Because somebody has to.

    1. I’ll trust you that FC could go more creepy gay. One of the groups I’ve punched out of. I’m not gay, leftist, or antitheist.

      1. The crowd started to change in ways that I didn’t want to be a part of. And, when I went back a few years later, I talked with some people and…let’s be honest. Far too many leftists are proof that retroactive abortion should be a thing. It didn’t take me long to figure out who I would start with, and a blood test for STDs would probably be my positive, affirmative defense.

        1. Could probably get one on site. But ya. Just seen go from liberal to hard left. I felt more comfortable in structure fire than cons

          1. And, there were cons that I loved being at, loved being a part of. BayCon was like that for the longest time. SiliCon was the con that was my “birthday” con, but it got ran into the ground by the people organizing it. I think that getting banned from Convolution was probably the best thing for me, because I wouldn’t have seen what kind of disaster it would become.

            Also, cons were one of the few places I could be social with people. It was one of the few places that felt right.

    2. “I am more alone at times than I have been in years.”


      Hang in there. You’re needed. These are hard times.

    3. The SCA is headed in the same direction. Fast. When you have serious discussions about whether to retire the title of “Master” lest it might possibly offend someone, somewhere…..

      1. *facepaw* Oh good grief, as Charlie Brown said so eloquently. When _Renaissance_ Magazine was re-modeled, and stopped focusing on Medieval/Renaissance and began re-writing history, then had some articles about how wonderful SCA chapters were for outreach to minorities and empowering them and . . . I could see the moving finger on the wall.

      2. Having dealt with some of the SCA people…

        There’s some that were great people, wonderful people. Talked quite a bit about how medieval life really was and got a lot of neat information on why there were those kinds of gender role things. With references and sometimes experimental proof, even.

        There were some people that I was extremely glad I didn’t meet until I was in my mid-20s, as being a teenager around them would have completely messed me up. Various kinds of sexual predators, fifty-seven flavors of Luddites and/or “fuck the police!” kinds of people, and/or various small-c cultists of one kind or another. My one time doing Renaissance Faire “season” was with the one girlfriend Who Shall Not Be Named, and after dealing with one Period Nazi (almost always a Karen-type female) who told me to get “proper boots” at one of the only two vendors of boots at the Faire (and, the vendors looked awfully related to each other…), no thank you.

        (Didn’t help that said girlfriend was a moocher and did things with me because it got her something later in return, not because she liked doing things with me.)

        Yep, not surprised that the SCA people have those kinds of issues. The professional activists moved in because they’re the only ones with the time to do those jobs…

        1. I still remember how startled a grown woman was when I pointed out that young brides are more important than young bridegrooms because of menopause.

          1. I ran into a guy who wanted to sing the praises of Islam without saying Islam.

            So I started responding with a whole hearted praise of a middle eastern religion from even further out, started by a Jewish carpenter from Israel….

            He was really not happy to be sung the praises of an “eastern faith” that didn’t involve women as property.

            1. As a professional accountant I can attest that women are not good property. They require too much time and money to bring up to marketable stage and then depreciate rapidly.

              You are much better off investing in sheep, goats or horses.

  30. Maybe Powerline Blog is waking up to all this? This is how Paul Mirengoff ends a column about the financial settlement with George Floyd’s family:

    “It’s scary that the power of multiple branches of government is being exerted this forcefully, and seemingly in concert, against a citizen who has been convicted of no crime. It’s also, I believe, a sign of things to come.

    Residents of Minneapolis should be very afraid of their government.”

  31. For anyone who was strong enough to watch the FICUS speech, this is what you were thinking the whole time:

    1. Haven’t, but I do remember that old Star Trek episode with the “Space Nazis” running a planet, except their Fuhrer was a puppet. Even posted an image on Twitter explicitly comparing that “Fuhrer” with FICUS.

      Though there’s also the “big reveal” from Equilibrium… with a lot of incident.

      1. The difference between the ex-Starfleet history guy in Patterns of Force, and Biden, is that unlike the Trek episode, Biden as puppet is really not all that different from the moronic power-hungry predatory freeloader that he was before he lost mental facilities. For the Trek character, what happened was not intended by him, he had to be drugged constantly for it to happen; for Biden, he would have gladly done what is now being done in his name even before he lost what wits he had.

    2. dude. Nailed it.

      I can’t watch that perv-thief. It makes me physically ill, makes my skin crawl.

  32. despite all their demonization Kyle Rittenshouse became an immediate folk hero.

    More like because of their demonization.

      1. I was watching the reactions at the time; there was a brief wobbling in the first hours as some conservatives wanted to throw him under the bus according to tradition, and then it went hard line Hero of Kenosha.

        1. Some, yes. The ones you’d expect. Others were saying “we don’t have enough information. Don’t make an opinion until we know the full truth.”

          Then as we got more video, more angles on the confrontation, and more background on the whole mess, it became more clear. And the ones that rushed to judgement, once again, looked like idiots. Doesn’t seem to matter as much on the left, or on the establishment right, either.

          1. No, I mean people who saw the video and agreed that it was self defense, yet insisted on playing the “what business did he have being there” game.

      2. I think during the Floyd Riots it actually went from barely working to counterproductive

        Not that they or much of the right has noticed.

    1. God’s grace and gifts and love are granted universally to His creation, even those who do not (seem to) want Him.

      The ability to see a beautiful thing and be rightly angered that some worldly barbarian trampled it underfoot to feed his vanity is a gift. Seeing and loving what is beautiful and true will serve you well.

      Christ said that there are those who said claim him that he scorns. Perhaps there are those who say they reject him who he welcomes. Because when the follies of this life are past and they stand naked and amazed by the blinding light of reality, they say in shock and joy: So I was wrong! Huzzah!

      TL’DR If it IS weird, it is a good weird.

    2. Not weird. When I was an atheist all those years ago, by thoughts were still of a different bent than the average atheist. I did not hate Himself, or Christians, or believers in general. That was stupid. A lot of them were, by and large, nice people, even if I considered them a bit bonkers on one certain subject.

      As an atheist, it is better to live in a society of believers with a firm moral code than one of zealots. I knew as many atheist zealots at the time as I did believers. Following that, bad behavior is bad behavior. So idiots vandalizing a church’s sign would have been contemptible to atheist me, too.

      May Himself bless you and yours, JP Kalishek. May we all be remembered as fondly and well by those we leave behind, come that day.

    3. I think the destruction of beauty resonates deeply in all our hearts, regardless of our decision about creation.

    4. Passing of loved ones is always difficult, but you’ve got some of him living on in your genes! You have a nice sized family. Stay close.

      1. Mom was able to stay strong through this in part because we all got together, including the grand kids (and due to logistical issues, only the one Great Grandkid) Oldest sis was in town to get her grand kid for the spring break (he lives around Clarksburg) and youngest sis lives in an apartment on the property, and her son lives in Mid-Town (his daughter is due to move back after the school year is over in Idaho). Me and mid sis decided to get our butts there and how, Friday evening, but her place in Atlanta is now a ‘short’ 5 hour trip away. Mine is 12.5 if I push it within reason.

    5. Condolences.

      And no, annoyance over architectural desecration does not require personal faith.

  33. No more silence, Mrs. Hoyt? Are you quite sure you want to unleash the Mrs. Hobbits on the world? Remember how I arrived here.

    On the other hand. Maybe that is what weirdos like me were made for.

    If you have a prayer to spare, please pray for me, and those like me me, who feel your call (this call) as a temptation.

    1. I am praying. But I–
      Let’s say in pushing me off the political closet and into action, G-d chose as goofy a person as…. well, as most of his other picks, totally unsuited to the task at hand. I hate confrontation. I hate fights. I love my goofy stories, and if I could I’d be perfectly anonymous except for them, and my name is common.
      Why the heck did he have to pick me?
      And I have a strong feeling this won’t end well on a personal level. That I won’t live through this.
      That I will pay the price for this.
      why did he have to pick me? There’s so many better people available.

          1. Agreed. Never been drunk or high. No desire to be.

            I handily won a round of “I’ve never been” in grad school (pick a thing you’ve never been, that you think everyone else in the group has) with “I’ve never been drunk.” The WHAAAATT??? followed by necks pivoting around should have resulted in whiplash for all…

            I do drink, but rarely. Don’t like most of it, and most of it gives me issues. Never been drunk.

              1. As is perhaps well known here, I most certainly do drink. However, I am nigh-paranoid about genuine painkillers. No issue with analgesics (though I am careful there for other reasons), but if I don’t *NEED* it… it stays in the bottle. I’ve had narcotics prescribed…. and after some time, turned in the unopened bottle for proper disposal. A relative, who has worked as a Pain Management Nurse (Her words: “I’m the bitch that says ‘No, you can’t have morphine.'”) was all but boggled that I turned down morphine (“Let’s save that for someone who might really need it.*”) said, roughly, “if we weren’t related I might have just kissed you.”

                * I did ask if was alright to get a bit more Toradol. I (like to) think they checked the timing and then agreed, but even in my state then, I could *see* the relief/astonishment that someone just said “no” to what was offered. Hell, it wouldn’t surprise to learn that they just said ‘yes’ and gave me a placebo after finding out it was way too soon but…

                1. I drink. Just not enough to be out of my mind.
                  BTW a drunk bull or minotaur is a terrifying idea.
                  Also in Bowl of Red, do you really need to wear the T-Shirt with “Bovines do it Moo”?

                  1. BTW a drunk bull or minotaur is a terrifying idea.

                    Despite some comments here, I *do* tend to keep things more for flavor* and mild ‘take the edge off’ than blotto. Not only are those ideas terrifying, I (like everyone else) prefer not waking up with a headache. I have enough headaches from alleged coworkers, etc.

                    * $HOUSEMATE would object, pointing out all the licorice/anise/fennel stuff I find tasty that many find.. loathesome [Ma once said of Great Gandma, “She used anise like normal people use vanilla”]. And that I find Compari downright mild as bitter goes and have NO issue with Fernet Branca**, Cynar, and even Malört***.

                    ** I admit it IS medicinal. It does, even to me, have a flavor best described as “(lightly) mentholated dirt.” I have had Fernet Menta. I find it… too mild.

                    *** There is a Canadian cough suppressant, Buckley’s, that is described as “tastes like burning tires” and that would kill the product, save that the stuff is that effective. After trying it, I reached for the Malört and $HOUSEMATE (who can TOLERATE it, but is decidedly NOT A FAN) grabbed at it with “Gimmee!” After Buckley’s, the Malört tasted, of all unexpected things, sweet. This was, to understate it, decidedly jarring.

                2. Pain meds? Opioids? I found out the hard way that I have a nasty reaction to both oxycodone and hydrocodone (via Percocet and Vicodin). Had them for dental procedures (wisdom teeth removal, and root canal) about 33 years apart. After one pill of each, I was very dizzy (room-spinning, even though I was in bed hanging on for dear life), and puking my guts out. Oddly enough, I can deal with codeine OK; it’s the only effective cough suppressant I can take.

                  1. Hadn’t taken the hydrocodone at all. Did take one dose of codeine and not for cough. I felt like it didn’t do anything at all, so didn’t bother with any more.

          2. That and the fact that I haven’t found an alcoholic beverage that I could stand is why I don’t drink.

      1. Yes. We’re poor tools.

        Well. Okay.

        I am having a hard time perceiving you as a “poor tool” since you inspired TiaT. And other stuff that is local and not on the interwebs.

        But. And.

        I’ve been praying for Sr. & Sra. “Almeida”‘ every time I pray for my parents since coronachan hit us. Because we said we would. When you remember, pray for me, and I promise I will pray for you: That we choose rightly. That we resist our worst impulses. That His will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

      2. *wry* Himself has the habit of picking flawed tools to enact His will upon the world. He often puts wisdom in the mouths of fools. He demands bravery from the weak and the craven. He asks for steadfastness and determination from the weak of will and spirit.

        If this were a story, I would not be able to maintain suspension of belief. I mean, 2020. That’s one that shouldn’t really count, though. Just *too* much weirdness. I mean, who calls up a list of candidates for Voices of the Sane, picks people with severe depression, anxiety attacks, a history of anti-social behavior, and a nearly impenetrable accent when stressed to speak to people like that (boggles the mind how such a person is expected to do the job, and no, not speaking of anyone in particular, mkay)? Who looks at a guy like DJT (pre 2015) and says, that guy is going to be a great president?

        The whole of American history is positively *littered* with impossibilities that actually happened. It’s irony, but I think that is how some of the proggies think that socialism can actually work here like they think it will, when all it created everywhere and everywhen else it was tried was misery, suffering, high body counts, cratering economies, and a very few well off (relative to the masses, but less than the super wealthy in a free society) oligarchs.

        We only get so much time in this life. Yet people do so many amazing things, if you but allow them the freedom to try. Why does He pick such… strange choices? I do not know. All I can say is, there is something within humanity that responds to a challenge. Some humans. Perhaps it is something like this.

        A challenge to a child could be considered a rather simple task to an adult. One grows when facing a challenge squarely. Physically, mentally, and so on. Like a father loves his child, does our Father in Heaven want us to grow. And growth is quite often painful even when you eventually succeed. So He has introverts out there telling other people to speak out, speak up, make your voice heard…

        1. You said what I wanted to say, but better than I was up to.

          God plays hard mode.

          Beyond that, the worldly cost may be high, but the way runs along a path we cannot calculate, even before we consider that things are truly weird when God picks someone to show what He can do.

          Go willing to pay the cost, but do not despair at the cost.

      3. Sarah,
        Take care in the snowstorm coming to you. If you haven’t seen “Ryan Hall Y’all” weather/storm YouTube channel, please take a look. I’m up North, unrelated to him, but he’s great.
        Love and prayers,
        TMIAHM fan

      4. “There’s so many better people available”
        Obviously, He doesn’t agree.
        And I think a lot of us would say the same.
        Gratitude for our fair hostess is something we can all agree on.

      5. As I understand it, Jonah said the same thing. And yet, he got to Nineveh and warned them.

        As a more modern retelling, I could call you Bahzell Bahnakson, reluctant paladin, stubborn to a fault, and greatest champion of the Judge of Princes.

        1. Shorter Bahzell:
          “This is STUPID!”
          “Great, so why are you here?”
          “Because it’s the right thing to do! … It’s still stupid!”

          (still have such a crush)

          1. Delenn: “Why do your people always ask if someone is ready right before you’re going to do something massively unwise?”

            Sinclair: “Tradition.”
            Ivanova: “It’s a Russian thing. When we’re about to do something stupid, we like to catalog the full extent of our stupidity for future reference.”

        2. The Bugbear and I recently played host to a gentleman who was in the area for his Reserve time. We had him over for dinner and were discussing he and the Bugbear cosplaying as, respectively, Bahzell and Brandark. He’s one of the few people who can make the Bugbear appear small in comparison.

        3. Ask not what your deity can do for you, ask what you can do for your deity.

          [N.B. – does not apply to certain elder deities, Aztec deities nor certain “Trickster” deities operating under the name Loki, Anansi, Coyote or other noms du mythos.]

            1. Tar and feathers are too good for these people.

              True. But it is a good start. Just a thought.

      6. “There’s us. We’re the cavalry. We’re the last defense. If not us, who?”
        — Sarah Hoyt, accordingtohoyt 02/22/17

        1. If not us, who?

          I do not think The Doctor makes this kind of house call, so we’re on our own.

  34. Ok I’m with you. It has to hurt to make them stop. I read Glen’s article and this one and both say that and I totally agree.

    HOW do you make them hurt?

    Like you many of us have to preserve our jobs.

    Yes we can shout it out under cover on the net.

    But THEY can cause one to lose their job. They know that at least 75 million voters disagree with them. They know they are outnumbered.

    But I can’t get an SJW fired because of their beliefs…but they can get me fired for mine. I can’t complain about what they are teaching my kid in school
    or my kid will be a target (though admittedly I can move them to a non-public school but even those chairs are in limited supply).

    I’ve read article after article after article about how we have to shout out and fight back but none give serious effective ideas.

    I am not writing this to criticize this article or Glenn’s or any of them. But, rather, to try and generate ideas.

    Mass demonstrations would work provided they demonstrated peaceably. Alas that is not always what happens. Even with the best of intentions.

    You have infiltration by Antifa and BLM fomenting violence. And there would have to be many of them…constantly…over a period of months and even years before the lie of the numbers was accepted.

    Yes one could work for candidates whose view align with ours. That’s a good one.

    But how do you “shout it out” in any way that’s even the tiniest bit effective?

    Ms. Hoyt you are the most experienced person when it comes to living within the oppression. We look to you for ideas.

    1. a) Lot’s of people have valuable experiences, knowledge, and skills.
      b) I’ve been looking into violence. Turns out, that right now it is counterproductive, but that may not always be the case. i) There are people in your organization who have embraced evil, and are persecuting Christians. ii) There has been at least one Saint who was martyred for striking down someone who was persecuting Christians. Extremely rare circumstances, and he prayed with another Saint first, who is attested as a Saint for acts while alive. In particular, 1) I am nuts, and the world would see only the worldly reasons 2) God’s purpose will probably be served without killings in His name.
      c) Romania, 1988 and 1989, and preference cascades.
      d) We do actually have a true majority, at least part of the game we are playing is for the preference cascade.
      e) Part of things is waiting, and watching quietly for sabotage opportunities. Complex societies take a lot of effort to keep functional. Centralized totalitarian control cannot provide all of the maintenance, and without the maintenance, and without outside support, it is hard to create enough wealth to keep things going in the face of the immensely wasteful costs.
      f) Per Sarah, tyranny is not just big exciting events, but a lot of waiting, and living almost normally.
      g) Tell the truth if you are able, definitely do not lie to yourself.

  35. For a preference cascade to start, you have to convert the ones no t on your side. We already have 75 million and that does not
    start the cascade.

    How do you – as Milton Friedman said – get the “wrong” people to do the right thing?

    How do you stop a SJW from getting someone fired?\

    How do you convince people who aren’t thinking about it that things like H.R. 1 are devastating to their freedom?

    How do you stop the “effectivity” of calling Conservatives insurrectionists, crazxy people, terrorists?

    How do you make yourself and your views be taken seriously?

    1. The preference cascade has already begun. It is too late for the upper-class media to matter.

      So they admitted to counting 75 million votes not-for-China Joe in the asterix “election”- and a not-insignificant fraction of the “votes” they counted on the other side have already announced their regret per pubic polling – due to the voter-interference of the suppressed Hunter stories (“If Zuckerberg had only allowed me to know!”) and the immediate actions canceling all those tens of thousands of good-paying jobs, with John F-ing Kerry as the voice of the administration in fully imperiously rich-by-marrige Northeastern Tone Deaf mode.

      And now the border is on fire too, and even the upper-class media is asking questions that flummox Psaki (admittedly a low bar), and the Operation Warp Speed Trump Vaccines are being distributed with the China Joe Muppet Show claiming credit for things they had nothing to do with, in line with China Joe’s history of plagiarism, and obviously making things up, again in line with China Joe’s history, and then we got last Thursday’s “Lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes.” speech from behind the 10,000 troops and the razor wire and fences, issuing open threats of “comply or be locked down again”.

      And gee, for some reason I have not seen any recent Presidential tracking polls publicized – and looking now at Rasmussen Daily tracking poll, hey look, he was at -5% before that hostage-holder-issuing-threats speech.

      This, all of this, is not how the winners behave. And the people of the US have already seen through to that truth.

      The objective now is to make sure everyone who has seen through knows they are not a lone voice in the wilderness. Normal everyday people have also seen through, and they see the same thing.

      And that’s why keeping quiet is counterproductive.

      1. There’s a second effect to speaking out.

        Most folks have wrong ideas of how this stuff goes down, because of entertainment influence. Entertainment usually gets it wrong because of stupidity, communist blindness, and because stories have to be simple. Folks on our side with these wrong ideas, new to the study of how this all goes down, see the lack of violence and take it as cause to despair.

        Add in, the opposition really thought that they had pulled it off. So, they are slowly realizing that they have the tiger by the tail, and follow the gambler’s fallacy to trying to rescue the effort. They’ve been trying to discredit us for years by pinning acts of violence on us. So, we are going to have more glowies, more people giving the ‘lifelong conservative Republican, appalled not to see more horrific acts of violence’ incitement speeches of various flavors.

        Violence is coming, we probably cannot avoid that. We are probably going to need to hang a good many people.

        But we don’t need to blackpill ourselves into spending lives foolishly. We want to outcompete the glowies, and so help people to calm down, such that if something needs doing they do it deliberately and cold bloodedly.

        1. No offense, but you lot don’t tend to do the deliberate and cold blooded stuff all that well. When you see an issue as important, you go right from “no violence” to “f-ing kill everybody” and then calm down almost immediately.

          It is kind of impressive from a foreigner’s perspective.

          1. I suspect it’s something culturally from situations in which you had to fight the bear/cougar/Indians/revenuers/etc. one minute, and then arrive in town and be civilized to your neighbors who might have just moved in and on whom you rely for mutual survival. “Threat gone? Turn off the Kill-It Switch,” As opposed to bumping up against the same family feuds for centuries and indulging in the cut direct at every opportunity.

              1. “Beware of strong drink. It can lead you to shoot at tax collectors — and miss.” 😀

              2. And that is another good example of “Americans do not exactly all like, trust, get along with, and have the same customs as one another.”

                Revenuer is most specific to people trying to collect a tax on alcohol production.

                Settled, urban areas of the US were more willing to consider that the Federal Government might have a moral right to extracting a production tax.

                Frontier/rural populations who immigrated from populations that considered evading taxes and customs fees set by a central government as being somewhere between a past time and a moral obligation?

                Some never cared for the whiskey tax/taxes. I think it has been something like a hundred and fifty years, at least, and people are still at least sympathetic with warring against the central government over that. May well have predated both the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, and Declaration of Independence.

                Note, I had all the pieces to realize a) this has been an ongoing endemic war for some time b) major implications where the historical context of Prohibition was concerned, hence related to two of my historical fixations, and I had overlooked putting the pieces together until now. Some of that is me being a dumbass, but I do have a reason to want to bother everyone by expounding to foreigners on how this stuff might really work.

                  1. There’s a distinct flavor of “leave us alone and we’ll all get along fine”. With the obvious counterpart (if someone would think about it!) “don’t leave us alone, you may not leave at all….”

              1. Or at least a culture that appreciates access to the proper tools of self-defense. Rabid beasties do not wait until you call 911.

                …Humans may not be carrying the virus, but more of them are “rabid” than I like.

                1. Yep. Humans are the #1 reason I carry weapons when I go into the wilderness.

          2. I would argue it is because we are being deliberate and cold blooded. Just because we are not overtly acting on a threat, does not mean we are not observing and planning on how to deal with the threat should the situation move from observe to act.

            It’s much easier to take back harsh language than it is expended rounds. There’s always the faint hope that the idiots on their way to becoming a potentially terminal threat will realize the error of their ways.

            1. Yeah.

              If I am truly cold blooded in considering whether or not I will kill you, and have not already acted, it is because there is a rational case not to kill you.

              If someone is screwing around, and may need killing, rationally, if they rethink things and quit, leaving them alive is probably less costly.

              Giving someone a warning with words is cheap. If they listen, you don’t risk getting in trouble for killing someone.

              If they do not listen, you have a better case to persuade others that the killing was righteous, and should be endorsed.

          3. One of my hobby horses: I think even most Americans aren’t really aware of what is actually going on with that.

            With all due respect, I am also an extremist at belligerence; the ordinary flavor of belligerent American is not as relentlessly foresightful in being angry at absolutely everyone.

            Property, cattle, marriage, disputes, and levies for war are very normal human behaviors, and most societies do (or did) have extensive customs for these, useable as a guide to personal behavior. Those are functional when a Scot is among Scots, a Pole among Poles, or a Hmong among Hmong.

            The colonists, and then the Americans, were not pure, settlements could be a mixture of groups A, B, C, D, E, F, G, who did not have identical customs, didn’t necessarily like each other, and didn’t necessarily trust each other.

            Americans, from the very early colonial days, had to negotiate things in words, and it tended to make sense to put stuff down in writing.

            Including war parties.

            Groups A, B, C, etc. might not like or trust each other, but were prepared to live at peace with each other if it was reciprocated.

            The colonial economy was not as fu(c)ked up as some places, so you could make more by working your own fields, minding your own business, than you could by killing someone else and taking their stuff. We weren’t paying rents to everyone, everyone’s dogs, cats, pet rats, and even the feral rats. Even the Scotch-Irish were willing to work hard enough that it made more sense than spending /all/ of their time fighting. (The people who fought anyway were doing it for fun, not business, except for the outright criminals.)

            If a group, say I, perhaps for Indians, was not participating in that peace, you still might not be able to get a war party together to carry the fight to I. You know you need a certain amount of size to bother taking on I, and a certain consensus within the war band to avoid it being destroyed by the internal distrust and rivalries.

            So, the whites were not constantly at war with the Indians, despite how little interest some of the indian tribes had in living according to the relative peace consensus between the whites. Your nutty firebrands who were always for war against the indian needed acts of violence by the indians to persuade groups A, B, C, etc. that they needed to abandon their fields temporarily so that they could war to ensure that they would not be molested in their fields in the future. If the indians would only burn out group A, it might be safe for groups B, and C, to ignore the matter.

            This basic pattern also describes WWII, in particular the Pacific War. Americans in that cohort died of old age hating the Japanese. But when the war was over, acting on the feeling wasn’t the thing to do. (Compare the various Japanese soldiers out of contact with command after the war, who had to be formally relieved of the responsibility.) I knew a man who had been Navy during the war, but whose post war career was with the Air Force. I think he told me about working in Japan on duty with the Air Force, and it certainly didn’t involve quietly going off the reservation to collect scalps.

            It takes time to get consensus to wage war properly, and the consensus is fragile, so you need to fight hard while you still have consensus to win a victory that will permit carrying out business on resumption of peace.

            Post WWII is a little weird, because of the size of the professional military, and all of the people in the defense industry. Also, travel times mean we are closer to a bunch of aliens whose customs are incompatible with our own.

            Right now is very weird. Basically, we have two groups that are not playing by the terms of peace. One, obviously, the d@mned communists. Two, a bunch of extortionists who have attached themselves to various groups, and have been preying on what passes for our better nature as Americans. See, we are individually proud of ourselves when we can get a range of Americans to trust us, work with us, etc in return for how we have treated them. So, telling one of us that we are cheating on the deal, that we are not treating people fairly, is a good way to get concessions.

            The extortionists have attached themselves to the gays, blacks, women, etc., and have been extracting concessions on their behalf and living off them. If the gays, the blacks, or the women were a problem group themselves, the problem would be much more intractable, and we might be forced to accept living with it. I’ve thought those latter scenarios over. (Okay, I’m homophobic enough that I feel its too creepy to spend much time thinking about murdering gays. And even I’m not crazy enough to take the feminists seriously as speaking for all women.) The extortionists are few enough that killing them all is very feasible. And, they’ve made the mistake of telling all of us that our Danegeld is no good with them.

            And people are still realizing this, we haven’t even gotten consensus solidified enough to be ‘negotiating war parties’. With all due respect, I was born angry, and grew up fearing my emotions in general, and anger in particular. I try very hard to hit cold blooded, and the only reason I struggle to look at this rationally is being in deep denial about how very angry I am. Steve Nelson among the early-to-realize may have calmed down to cold blood. That the November cohort of figuring this out haven’t lost themselves to despair yet, and acted on their own, is because they have calmed down, and are looking rationally at forming the war band. By the time we build enough consensus to act, we may have mostly calmed down, and be ready to call it quits as soon as we can make sure that the fight is settled, and won’t restart as soon as we return to our fields.

            After this business is settled, it would be a very wise for you guys to figure out a better understanding of us, that makes sense from your perspective. Because so long as transportation is so fast and cheap, we are basically living cheek to jowl, and we do not understand each other well enough to avoid rubbing each other the wrong way. With all due respect, I’ve also gamed out exterminating the non-American peoples of the world; it looks pretty difficult. It makes me unhappy that the traditional American strategic alternative to peace may not be feasible.

            1. “The extortionists are few enough that killing them all is very feasible. And, they’ve made the mistake of telling all of us that our Danegeld is no good with them.”

              Yes, it is feasible. Doing so creates martyrs, however. Even false martyrs are acceptable to their cause. Cf Floyd, G., et. al. The agitators and extremists are few in number. Slightly more are the opportunists and criminals. Below that are organizers and middle mob managers. And at beneath them are Twatterists, Farcebookians, Instagripers, and the Goolag enthusiasts. And at the very bottom are the confused, the trapped, the misinformed and maleducated that by and large do not even glimpse a small piece of the larger puzzle.

              It is why I am very much in favor of the rule of law. Once you start shooting the b*stards it’s hard to put a stop to it. There are going to be people whose lives have been absolutely ruined by the above. Homes, families, businesses, family members, pets, the work of lives all destroyed. Tis a slippery slope. As you mentioned, these will be some of the people in your war party, should such come to pass.

              On a slight tangent to that, the long march through the institutions has captured education in what appears to be an attempt to replicate the Carlisle school’s work on assimilating the plains Indians. They want to kill the American, save the Man, as it were. Thus trying to create the artificial culture and religion that is wokeness, cancel culture, and the SSBLTGWTFBBQ nonsense.

              The mask being well and truly off now means that even with all the indoctrination on a massive scale, folks are rejecting it. Not quickly, and not uniform, but it is happening. There are also elements of both sides are gleefully interested in shooting war, and there have been several instances on the left where it looks to me like they had every intention of kicking said war off right there. If and when the boogie balloon goes up folks will find themselves saddled with some very strange bedfellows.

              Perhaps the strange magic of the American spirit will happen again and keep us from killing each other more than we already have. Or rather, keep us from retaliating en mass(acre) to the harms already enacted and ongoing. The best thing in war, per the ancient texts, is to win without having to fight. That is a thing I would very much prefer to happen, but I am not intelligent enough to see exact path to get there. Yet.

              1. Even false martyrs are acceptable to their cause.

                *shaking head*

                No– can’t agree.

                ONLY false martyrs are acceptable.

                Their “guy shot by cops just going to his car after a kid’s birthday party” was actually a rapist harassing his victim and illegally attempting to remove shared-custody children, ignoring police orders, and going in to the number one place to hide a gun.
                That does not go well.

                Their “kid walking home from the store” was a known criminal thug shot AFTER he tried to beat the brains out of a neighborhood watch who ‘dissed’ him by walking around in a public area.

                Their “gentle giant” was a high pot head who repeatedly man-handled a cop after beating a store clerk against the shelving while doing a robbery, shortly before.

                1. You have a definite point. They do get more traction from the false ones (the only ones they have so far) because there is push back from us when they try to put out lies. And if there ever comes a point where the would-be martyr is *actually* just on his way to his kid’s birthday party, they find us agreeing with them that it is wrong, dead wrong, and the guilty party needs to be held accountable in a court of law.

                  1. *horrified lightbulb*

                    And, generally, the case vanishes because it’s solved at the next step up.

                    Usually doesn’t take long.

                    So they don’t get the years long conflict.

                    Dear heavens, that is evil…..

                    1. No kidding. The most disturbing realization I had was when you look at the entire process as an exercise in deliberately increasing entropy at all levels… it works.

                      It explains the envelop pushing when they get what they want, the economic destruction, the attacks on religion and traditional family structure, the social diseases, the insidious and vile corruption of children… All part of the package.

                      This is why I pray for our country and her people. We *need* the help. And to do our part to make things better where we are, so things stop getting worse.

                    2. Amen.

                      We need the help.

                      And why I don’t trust lying activsts….they lie.
                      THEY think their cause is so weak as to need lies.

                    3. I lit my candle last night and prayed that I would keep myself integrated as I watch the destruction of everything I’ve depended upon my whole life: national pride, borders, quality education, live and let live, E Pluribus Unum…. All of it is being destroyed.

                      My job is to stay standing during the horror. And pray like mad.

                    4. Not exactly.

                      The fact that George Floyd died of an OD didn’t start to percolate through the public until at least a couple of months later when the body cam footage was leaked to a British newspaper. Until then, there was pretty much universal outrage throughout the country at Chauvin(sp?) for the footage of him and Floyd.

                      Didn’t stop the riots.

                    5. I recently happened to see the body cam footage again and noticed among other things that George Floyd was pleading for the police to not kill him. The police, nationwide, kill fewer than two dozen “unarmed” Black men annually, on average. He was in no real danger from them BUT he was prevented from properly requesting assistance because of the MSM LIES fed him about police killings.

                      If there is White Privilege it is in the fact Whites are not fed a steady diet of lies about police murdering us, even if a White criminal is statistically more likely to be shot by police (if only because officers know there will be less paperwork and proctological examination.)

                    6. Prediction-any juror who votes to acquit Chauvin will not only be attacked by the Antifa/BLM mob, but will be doxxed by Democratic Party media and then persecuted by the Minnesota state government and the Federal government. Would not put it past the HarrisBiden DOJ to concoct some sort of charges against such jurors.

                  2. Exactly. When an actual innocent person is killed, everybody agrees how wrong it is. There is no argument, no controversy, no opportunity for them to scream “RRRAAACISSST!!!”

                    And they LIVE to scream “RRRAAACISSST!!!”

                  3. There are actual cases, but then you can just arrest, convict, and sentence the culprit. Cases where that would be unjust are their favorite.

              2. Point.

                Though, you don’t need to be smart enough to find /the/ exact path there.

                You just need enough people in agreement, who are smart enough to find their parts of paths there.

                1. Makes sense. Given the disparate parts that need to work in concert, I suppose it would have to be. Going to be one heck of a job though.

              3. > It is why I am very much in favor of the rule of law.

                So am I, but we no longer have that. The oligarchy is staggering about in the skin suit, but their de facto separate laws for themselves, plus their cries of “no standing!” when anything challenges that, have shown that we’re just another banana republic. And it’s looking like we always have been; it’s just now they’re not bothering to hide it any more.

                1. And then you get the FIB going full jackboot and arresting people *seen* in the presence of OMG Oathkeepers at the Jan 6th protests. (Reportedly never in the Capitol…) Last I heard, they were arresting 400 people, curiously, non mentioned with pantifa connections.

                  If there aren’t a lot of dismissals, the fuse is going to be a lot shorter

                  1. What does Illinois have to…. of… Fed. Inv. Bur. Not F[reaking] Illinois Bastages. Why ye, I did spend some considerable time in Wisconsin.

                    If your speedometer fails in WI, just make sure you are NOT passing the vehicles with IL plates. And not ALL of the one with WI plates.

                    1. 18 mph over in Madison in 1970 (friend’s ’68 GTO and bear in the air). However, they missed when I floored it and hit something over 100. Dad was not happy. Got ungrounded just before Prom.

        2. Yeah. I like this. Makes good sense to me.

          Two days ago, after much effort praying and meditating and therapy and all that, I realized something hugely significant, for me at least: I’m living amongst communists. They are not my people. They are not me. They are “other”. And today, for the first time I was able to look around the QFC parking lot at the many fully slave-muzzled people and laugh. Really laugh, not out of happiness but more relief.

          I’ve been afraid of these nasties confronting me if I’m caught posting stickers, going into a store sans-muzzle…. I gauged my personal acceptability based upon the reaction of those around me.

          Not any more.

          And because my real work is on myself, I hope to be one of the sanguine ones when things go south, however they go. I’m really encouraged.

              1. Bloody.

                “from Latin sanguineus “of blood,” also “bloody, bloodthirsty,” from sanguis (genitive sanguinis) “blood” (see sanguinary). Meaning “cheerful, hopeful, confident” first attested c. 1500, because these qualities were thought in old medicine to spring from an excess of blood as one of the four humors.”

                1. There’s nothing wrong with blood. Just as dirt is good soil as long as it stays in its place, blood is wonderful stuff as long as it’s not dislodged.

                2. Thus the source of “desanguinated” for a person who’s bled out, as due to a stab wound or a vampire. Given the various parasites pre-modern man was prone to, anemia was likely common, which would be why a cheerful, confident and ruddy person would be thought of as blood-filled.

                  According to Merriam~Webster,

                  Sanguine has quite a few relatives in English. Sangfroid (“self-possession especially under strain”) and sanguineous (“bloodthirsty”) are consanguineous with sanguine. (Consanguineous, means “descended from the same ancestor.”) The tie that binds these words is sanguis, the Latin word for blood.

                  I await some wag writing a story featuring a sanguine vampire.

      2. Things are happening. It’s hard to see the big picture, and know which forces will come out on top, but things are happening. Cuomo’s likely to go down (I’ve seen people reference Northam, in Virginia, and claim that things will turn out as they did with him, but Northam’s entire Democratic chain of succession had similar problems, leaving the first scandal-free successor a Republican; that’s why the Dems closed ranks). I’m pretty sure I’ve seen noise about Whitmer, in Michigan. Newsome is trying to use every underhanded trick in the book to avoid a recall, and people are discussing trying the same thing with George Gascogne here in Los Angeles.

        In short, people are fed up. Patience is turning to impatience. Signs are there. We don’t know what exactly will come of it, or how long it will take to play out. But the citizenry is unsettled. And contrary to claims, they’re not angry at one Donald J. Trump.

        1. I’m seeing and hearing a lot of quiet talk, head nods, and people stocking up for the long haul. Now granted, it is storm season (big tornado on the ground as I type), but I get a sense of people weighing options and starting to make Plans.

          1. North America has more tornadoes than most continents.

            Tornadoes are a funny destructive whether pattern. Much work has been done in recent years on being able to predict them usefully in advance. This is fairly challenging.

            Tornadoes can damage a house, hop over another occupied house, damage more houses, then knock down a tree pulling up roots 12 feet wide.

            A certain amount of flexibility is mandatory for being well prepared.

            The cross group communication within America tends to need to be loud, flamboyant, forthright. Subtleties are not reliably translated.

            So, wider sense of personal space, and smiling all the time at people, so that they know that you aren’t planning to kill them, yet.

            But there are always new people in an area, that you might need to discuss with other relative locals. Subtleties may be useful if you don’t have complete privacy.

            And with the modern panopticon attempts at information control, everyone understands how limited privacy is.

            We can pick up semi-reliable signals locally, in theory. But we cannot estimate the whole strategic situation from local groups, and non-local signals are definitely not reliable.

            Possibly the most good I can possibly do is saying “I don’t know, here is why”, because of how rare good non-local signal is. (Even if I am crazy, I have strong analytical abilities. I’m also fairly incompetent at hands on and people skills. I suspect that most of the people who can meet or exceed me at analysis may have the technical or human terrain judgement to do something directly. As frustrating as it is for me personally, not having anything I can do frees me from worry about compromising my own activities. So, my weaknesses may in fact be a blessing in disguise.)

            1. > Much work has been done in recent years on being able to predict them usefully in advance.

              Fat lot of good it does for the citizenry on the ground. They cry wolf so much people just ignore the sirens now.

              The old volunteer spotter system worked. Which is why they disbanded it.

              1. What, SkyWarn bailed… or bailed on having Joe Public help.
                I recall when dealing with some folks who were or had been spotters that they said, “When the radio says ‘unconfirmed report’ (of funnel clouds, etc.) take it dead seriously. A spotter who knows what to look for likely saw it, but didn’t have Mr. Official next to him to point out to. ‘Confirmed’ is just that Mr. Official also saw it.”

                1. I’m a SKYWARN spotter. In my area, SKYWARN is part of ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Service). Net control is on one of the local 2m repeaters.

              2. My town of residence had sirens when first I moved here, which I discovered one evening while driving past it just as they initiated a test.

                It is rough on the upholstery the first time you have that happen.

                1. My father, the volunteer fireman, was driving me and my sister home from the library and we were just outside the firehouse when the sirens went. (For a fire.)

                  He drove right up and drove off in a truck. We read as best we could with that racket. . . .

                  (It was interesting when it slowly dawned on me that they no longer had fire sirens, having been away at college and living elsewhere after college.)

  36. And, on Twitter today’s I don’t know what to call it involves a Marine office apologizing to female troops and offering “to take a knee,” and do better. I really hope it was written by a civilian schlub in the Public Affairs office and/or I’m missing context.

    1. If she is, she certainly doesn’t suffer from low self esteem.
      Never mind the “romantic comedy,” experience: is she married?

    2. I saw that tweet copied on Gab. The LSM seems to have run out of other people’s money, leaving the low level workers with nothing but their undeserved self-esteem.

  37. Happy to have found this place.

    These are very scary times, friends. My one purpose now is to exit from the ability to be “canceled” as sooner or later, the luck runs out for everyone and I do not wish to see what “they” have in store for me when my number comes up.

    As a reformed leftist, it’s all the more frightening having watched all the things I’d have supported 25 years ago become eerily true beyond any expectation, and it pains me to know I was part of the problem from my teens through my mid-20s before I woke up. Dad always let us find our own path, and despite going a different direction for many years from what he is, things went full circle and the man who brought me into this world who used to be “the enemy” is now the first I’d side with in the worst of scenarios. Only one in the family who never saw the light, but he’s content to spend his days posting frantically about the Bad Orange Man on Facebook while lit up on Grey Goose while his wife heads to the law firm to keep them in the upper middle class lifestyle they are accustom. He’s the only one I worry about being the sort to turn in his fellow man, as I’ve cut ties with all others who I knew would be a threat – not that we speak despite living just 2 miles apart and from parents as well (sort of a triangulation of us all in one small radius), he’s not the type to do the dirty work himself, but would surely suggest others do it so long as he could be in their good graces afterward.

    2021 will be interesting in many ways. I’m selling my small biz of 20 years to get while the getting’s good, I’ve catered to a primarily far-left base for long enough with my services, it is time to move on despite the security I’ve had from it as well as it being a cloak that keeps me in good graces with those who’d wish me dead under other circumstances. I’ve not been able to share honest opinions with anyone in my industry beyond one brave soul who dared to reveal he is a Christian who abhors the current state of the world (absolutely verboten in my line of work as it would lead to immediate cancellation), so I’ve simply refused to engage in anything that could be trouble later for not being “one of the good guys”. But, it had gotten too heavy on the soul to keep up the charade, best I get the money I can and exit into a new life than play a game that makes me sad every day I participate.

    What lies ahead? Well, with the expected free time, lots of new skill-building to work on greater self-sufficiency, keeping up the counter side of the current digital warfare needed to fight back, and putting more room between my family and anyone who isn’t on our side. Please wish me luck in what lies ahead, as I wish you all the best in being prepared for the inevitable.

    *biography over*

    1. “Please wish me luck in what lies ahead, as I wish you all the best in being prepared for the inevitable.”

      Good luck, friend.

    2. Welcome to the light. Have some cookies and don’t fool with the fudge — unlike others we here prefer not to fudge things, especially hard facts.

      Be aware that there are some topics we do not touch, primarily because there is no right opinion and no settling the issues see FAQ, but be aware those topics include matters theological and matters concerning the family feud that commenced i 1861.)

      Also, be advised that this is an area in which people are expected to have opinions, voice opinions, and defend opinions. Hoyt’s Huns can be a mite sharp-elbowed but rarely hold grudges, so if you get to feeling unfairly knocked about do not let it fret you, just dust yourself off and put another chip on your shoulder — the person you last butted heads with is likely the first to back you up in the next exchange.

  38. Spotted a variant of this T-shirt while out this afternoon:

    It’s wearer (an African-American man) said he gets a lot of compliments on it.

  39. Spotted this en route to something else and realized there is a simple solution: just order half the troops t identify as women:

    U.S. Army Considers Reversing ‘Gender-Neutral Physical Test’ After Majority Of Women Fail To Keep Up With Men: Report
    The United States Army is reportedly considering doing away with its new “gender-neutral physical test” after test results showed that the majority of women failed while approximately 90 percent of men passed. Officials are reportedly considering having different evaluation categories for men and women due to the physiological differences between the two.

    “Research showed that the Army Combat Fitness Test [ACFT], which is the same for male and female soldiers, was leading to lower results for women with a knock-on effect for promotions,” The Telegraph reported. “An early Pentagon study showed that women were failing the ACFT at a rate of 65 per cent, while only 10 percent of men did.”

    A report from last fall found that 54 percent of women failed the test while only 7 percent of men failed it.

    The report said that Congress, which is controlled by the Democrats, stopped the new program from being implemented and the Army is reviewing whether it is fair. Congress does not want the test as it is current constructed to factor into opportunities for advancement, the report said.

    “In the ACFT there are six events – the maximum deadlift, a standing power throw, hand-release push-ups, a sprint, drag and carry, leg tuck, and a two-mile run,” the report added. “To pass the test those taking it must score at least 360 points out of a possible 600, and those who achieve higher scores are more likely to be promoted. However, average sores for women so far are said to have been 100 points lower.”


    Captain Kristen Griest, the Army’s first female infantry officer, wrote last month that “lowering fitness standards to accommodate women will hurt the Army–and women.”

    Griest said that implementing “gender-based scoring” or reducing “the minimum standards for combat arms” would “have both immediate and insidious impacts on combat effectiveness, as well as on women’s credibility and potential.”

    “The entire purpose of creating a gender-neutral test was to acknowledge the reality that each job has objective physical standards to which all soldiers should be held, regardless of gender,” she wrote. “The intent was not to ensure that women and men will have an equal likelihood of meeting those standards. Rather, it is incumbent upon women who volunteer for the combat arms profession to ensure they are fully capable and qualified for it. To not require women to meet equal standards in combat arms will not only undermine their credibility, but also place those women, their teammates, and the mission at risk.”

    All of this comes as members of the U.S. Military, under the leadership of Democrat President Joe Biden, recently used official government resources to launch political attacks against Fox News host Tucker Carlson. The attacks came following Carlson’s call-out of the military after Biden said during a press conference last week that the military was making “good progress” by “creating maternity flight suits” and “updating requirements for their hair styles.”

    1. That would work better than having a two-tier system. And if it was let slip that only the *bottom* 50% of those that passed would have to identify as “female,” I would also predict that average scores would increase over time. The military’s primary task to kill people and break sh*t. Therefore, the standard should be high enough that the ones that survive training will be the best of the best. Tough, strong, disciplined, skilled, adaptable, and smart. Nobody wants their military to go into combat knowing that half their squad can’t pull their weight. It kills morale as fast or faster than it kills soldiers.

    2. I can’t imagine any pregnant woman WANTING to pull 8G turns in an F-18. Nor any ethical flight surgeon approving her to do so. There are just sooo many ways for that to go so, so wrong.

      Nope, pregnant women should NOT be fighting on the front lines until we are desperately striving to stave off imminent annihilation. That’s not equality, it’s insanity. The entire purpose of having a military is to protect the pregnant women.
      Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

  40. Shout, shout, let it all out
    The left is a thing I can do without
    So fuck off
    I’m talking to you so fuck off

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