
Guys, we’ve been thinking about this all wrong.
We’ve been thinking like these are normal American grifters and idiots. In other words, Democrats and their useful idiots.
And then I figured it out.
Okay, so you guys remembered how we laughed during the campaign when every one of the democrats raised their hand and said he would tax us higher to pay for health care for illegals?
And you know how even a week ago, I was scratching my head and going “Why the hell do they think naturalizing every illegal who is here will work? Most of these people come from countries where this type of bullshit is old. MOST of them will already be beating feet towards the border at speed.”
Ah, but I was thinking in terms of their replacing the population. I was being, what do they call it? Naive. Also American.
Shake the snowglobe of evil. Again.
Now let the dust settle.
Like this: They make illegals citizens. They don’t care if they stay here. This is their chance to send money AND ballots abroad. FOREVER. So the rest of the world can vote them into power in perpetuity FOREVER. While Americans are kept imprisoned, working themselves to death to feed, clothe and pay the third world to keep these people in power FOREVER.
And if you complain? You’re an insurrectionist and enemy of the state and everything good and proper who must be destroyed.
And they think that will work. And it will. Five, ten years before Americans discover what’s really going on. Which is long enough for everyone involved in this at the international level to be rich beyond the dreams of billionaires. And if they play their cards right for our army by then to be composed mostly of people born and raised and speaking the language of those third world countries.
So, no matter how well armed Americans will be fighting back against a — granted third world and therefore poorly trained — army equipped with the best armament in the world.
And with luck, they can make us like Imperial Rome with them in power forever. (Americans would never devolve into imperial Rome, but this won’t be America. Or largely Americans.)
This is the most extraordinarily well planned invasion in the history of mankind. The Trojan horse is nothing to it. And they did it co-opting our institutions, already destroying our election process, and using as stalking horses some of the most corrupt politicians the world has ever seen.
So, who is behind it? EVERYONE. Ever single bien-pensant Euro asshole, Winnie the Xi who doesn’t want us stopping his enslaving of Africans and South Americans and who can in fact get us to feed their slaves, international billionaires who will suck us dry as we die.
There is a lot of ruin in a nation, but best of all, with a little care, you can take that ruin and make yourselves beyond unimaginably rich.
AND you can do it while turning off the gas of the peasants (note the keystone pipeline and the ban on fracking) confiscating their food for what is soon to be a world famine (Don’t you care about starving people, you evil man) and in general destroying America to make sure it never rises again.
And our media will applaud, and — already — talk about the godlike qualities of the invaders. Our courts, including supposing conservatives, will facilitate this. Our congress, both parties, will roll over for this as they have for the fake election.
And our army will stand by because — oh my — we can’t expect them to do anything about it. Why, that would be evil. These aren’t invaders, and we’ve had crooked elections before.
<Applauds in the direction of hell.
Well played. Amazing gambit.
Looks upwards. And now, what do we do?
We do what we can.
We stop the engine of the world.
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(And pray that we can pushstart it again.)
As you say, we build under, over, aside, around, invent, etc. Think sideways, parallel, inverse, and inside-out, and make M.C. Escher queasy. And then, when “all is lost”.. leave the bastards wondering WTH happened as we laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh…
Now, do I have an expect prescription for this? No. But as long as we can still laugh and smile, it will still count as a failure amongst them. That, if nothing else, buys time. And time… well… that stuff can work miracle, given even half a chance.
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Did you mean to use the clip from the end of ‘Doctor Strangelove’?
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“Gentlemen! You can’t fight in here — this is the War Room!”
They might accidentally let us sing this one:
And I’m much more scared of Joe’s Ho doing that than I ever was of Reagan.
“We will all go together when we go,
All suffused with an incandescent glow…”
That’s a nightmare I could do without.
(But I never did believe in “the end of history”).
In the 80s Sting had this hit and while it is a bit closer to the mindset of “Imagine” than I like, it has a valid point.
The men who faced off in the Cold War, and not just the big guys like Ike, Reagan, and Kruskev, but men face with horrific choices like Stanislav Petrov and, most notable of the bunch, Vasili Arkhipov.
But what about Mrs. Keithleys? The stories we hear about Stalin’s death range from the Politburo members present either denying treatment to Stalin or outright murdering him under guise of illness. The common theme among many of the stories is a belief that Stalin intended to order a nuclear strike on the US as he died, so the USSR would not survive him.
I look at the childless by choice leaders here and in Europe. I look at their choices about life and policy. I cannot help but wonder if they are Stalins not in the easy to assign way of purges and show trials, but the more horrific ways as a would-be ultimate Cain.
I quite like that. And I think I might have scar(r)ed a coworker or two when I played it. And I had to explain that the Late Show was not what they thought.
Not this time. I carefully avoided it – this time.
And we build barriers, and say “This far, and no farther.”
I doubt anybody will get this, as few will have seen the movie Genghis Cohn, about a Jewish comedian’s ghost’s revenge on a concentratio camp commandant, but:
Tell them: Kissen mir tuchus.
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In the end “we throw rocks at them”. The blue cities depend on infrastructure that CANNOT be defended. WE send them power, water, and food. When the boot on our necks gets too cumbersome, we cut them off. There will be a general trucking strike this year in response to the rapidly increasing fuel costs. Once unemployment reaches 20% the illegals here will HELP us hit back at them.
The Blue cities are unbelievably fragile, and once cut off their own citizens will destroy them.
It sucks that it’ll be the only way, but in the end we will have to “throw rocks at them.”
I don’t even want to TYPE some of the ideas that I have for how fragile certain infrastructure is, because it’s really very easy to cut off some things if you have people capable of hiking with a normal weight load on their backs. I am NOT giving people ideas.
No worries, we’ve already HAD all those ideas, and then some.
Further, we have defensible borders; they don’t.
To agree with Reziac we all have…and I’m sure of us have at least once sat down and done the very first steps of planning.
Even those of us with zero knowledge can still think of things. That was part of the patheticness of the Capitol Green Zone: they showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can be completely jammed up with near-zero effort.
hope their diesel backups are full of biofuel and tuned up
Now we hear some of those poor troops have been sleeping in the Senate cafeteria. Which at least gave a few Congresscritters and Senators the chance to offer them office space.
Even better, Trump said they could *his* hotel-space… Second full day of Biden and Trump *already* solving Biden problems to some degree. HI-LARIOUS!
I like FL’s gov for a solution “You know what? Call them home, now. They ain’t Nancy’s servants.”
TX did the same.
And if asked by the governors to stop Federal efforts to compel those states to do stuff that those states deem illegal or unconstitutional, expect that many of those national guard members will be willing to do so, much more than before they had been treated so poorly by the Democrats.
Except that Biden nationalized the NG.
Biden can nationalize the tides – that doesn’t mean the oceans will take his orders.
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So did New Hampshire. “Live free or die.”
Biden is mentally incompetent and is rubber stamping a bunch of unknown unaccountable sorts who have no doubt already started feuding.
Federalizing the troops is more responsibility on Biden’s part.
Normally, someone could say “Sir? If you keep these people here indefinitely, and do not keep them busy, they will have time to figure things out and get really angry”.
Not with Azathoth in the chain of command.
Bingo
one did offer her office
forget who from where, but yeah, an (R)
It was actually the Democrat from Arizona who offered her office. Arizona’s legislature is fast tracking Second Amendment sanctuary state legislation. Apparently Arizona has some politicians with guts still around, even if they were gutless in stopping election fraud (although as a practical matter unless the fraud in Georgia Michigan and PA had been defeated, Arizona’s actions were mathematically irrelevant as far as the electoral college went.
The reason Democrats are pushing to expel Cruz, Hawley and others from the Senate is fear that there are a couple of Democrats who are willing to vote with Republicans to keep the filibuster in place, prevent Court packing and to prevent new states from being added. Since the Democratic Party is committed to these things, they intend to rig the Senate and House to enable them to go through without any effective opposition.
If the effort to expel enough Republican Senators and House members to give the Democrats the ability to push things through without even having to consider compromise with recalcitrant members of their own party is unsuccessful, I expect Republicans in states with Democratic Party governors to be Epsteined/Enemies of Hillaried
I’m pretty sure expelling members of Congress would be one of those things that would trigger secession, and this time it would be completely justified. The Democrats would get their packed court, with ZERO power over the people they need to control.
Democrats want states to seek to secede because they think it would prove their claims that their political opponents are insurrectionists and thus justifies the actions they have always wanted to take to eliminate political opposition. I do think there are some Democrats who would literally nuke political opponents. They most certainly want those political opponents held in “re-education centers”, i.e. concentration camps, so that they can “cleanse” them. More and more of the Democratic Party media is openly calling for a “mass re-education” of EVERYONE who voted for Trump.
I’m sure they’d love to nuke us, but I don’t think they’ll be able to actually get their hands on them. The only nukes in a blue state are at Bangor sub base, and I’m not sure they’ll be able to get them out.
The basic question is one of motivation of the seceding states. If people generally saw it as justified it would be hard for the Democrats to get any traction, especially outside their urban power bases. And the secession of states opens the door to the red portions of blue states – i.e. most of the states – seceding from their states a la West Virginia (but backwards) which would leave the Democrats ruling over a few dozen isolated urban areas. Which then begs the question of who seceding from whom.
THIS.
I just hope I don’t have to go Dahlquist to keep the fascists from getting their hands on them.
As best I recollect, we have a long history of admitting states in pairs, one Democrat, one Republican. Admitting states for partisan gain might well be a Union sundering event.
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What? All vote by fraud isn’t?
I don’t know about the other services, but I think the Navy’s nuclear weapons on the left coast are still stored at Long Beach Naval Ordnance Center. That’s where the ship always went to load 5″ ammo, torpedoes and ASROCs, and to unload it all again after deployment.
I don’t know if the Navy even has any nuclear gravity bombs in its inventory. If they do I doubt they’d spend the money on the kind of security needed to keep them safe at more than one location per coast. There’s just no good reason to keep them anywhere other than Bangor and Kings Bay.
It’s different with conventional weapons. Those are used frequently enough that it makes sense to have storage and loading facilities near where the ships are homeported.
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That tradition started in the early 1800’s when the proto-Democrats demanded that a slave state must be admitted for every free state. By the 1850’s it became clear that they would be defeated by their own demographics in spite of such measures. Free states tended to have larger populations and stronger economies, which attracted still more settlers…positive feedback. Slave states tended to have a few rich property owners and little opportunity for outsiders.
Sort of like today. Free states have stronger economies, which attract people disgusted with Democrat-communism-fascism. Unfortunately, the communist-fascists follow them, bringing along the same stupidities that ruined the states they flee from. Now they’ve taken over the federal government and will try to impose those stupidities on the entire nation from the top down.
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Governments can’t create prosperity; at best, they can refrain from destroying it.
I’m pretty sure it applied when Alaska and Hawaii were admitted; I am not sure about New Mexico and Arizona’s admission in, respectively, January and February of 1912. Wiki says the first governor of New Mexico was a Democrat, as was Arizona’s.
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Then moved them to a parking garage.
Because that’s totally appropriate shelter for troops not issued the full load of winter gear.
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Oh, and Biden signed an executive order federalizing the national guard for the duration of the kung-flu “emergency” as one of his first acts.
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Sociopaths sometimes get exactly what they deserve.
It gets worse. Apparently COVID is spreading among many of the National Guard Troops. Now admittedly most of these folks are probably in good condition, but still there could be some that run into real issues. Love the care the Democrats show for the troops. They’d better hope these folks are far more patriotic than I would be…
This is exactly what happened in 1918 with the flu. It was spread among the military jammed in bases and transport for WWI. They wore masks and most of the other things that are being repeated even though they don’t work and never have.
I suspect they don’t have COVID. I suspect they caught cold, and then they were sent to quarantine. Apparently they didn’t have much in the way of testing equipment.
However, apparently a lot of the Guard were being told to work while sick, so….
How can he even do that? “Federalize” the National Guard, I mean.
there’s specific procedures for it, pretty much always has been.
Of course when Trump did that to defend the southern border, states like California refused, to the cheers of the Democratic Party media arm.
Same way Eisenhower and Kennedy did it in AR, MS, and AL during civil rights era. The President can call the National Guard up at any time.
But wasn’t Trump still president when they were called out? So did *Trump* federalize the guard?
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 5:51 PM According To Hoyt wrote:
> snelson134 commented: “Same way Eisenhower and Kennedy did it in AR, MS, > and AL during civil rights era. The President can call the National Guard > up at any time.” >
Apparently senior military leadership public statements to the contrary, in which they said that Pelosi couldn’t insert herself into the chain of command and doing so would be a coup they wouldn’t allow, it was Pelosi who directed the national guard to DC and in fact she did insert herself into the chain of command and those senior military leaders allowed it. Proving yet again that regardless of their public statements, they are compromised and are part of the effort by the Democrats and establishment to “fundamentally transform America”.
What they ACTUALLY protested was her inserting herself in the NUCLEAR chain of command. Not the same; troops being sent to US cities has been almost normal since 1958.
They have to. It’s how the Guard gets paid out of federal funds. The states sure as hell aren’t going to pick up the bill for FICUS’ stage props.
Oh, he did, did he? Then it will be REAL interesting to see if Govs Abbott and de Santis are ALLOWED to recall their troops.
The parking structure with a two-stall bathroom for 5000 troops and a single power outlet was a nice touch, if you really, really want to say “don’t protect me if it gets crunchy”. OTOH, I see Bad Orange Man gave the troops lodging in the DC Trump Hotel, free.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/01/22/bidens-national-guard-scandal-wont-go-away-with-a-photo-op-and-cookies-from-jill-biden-n1406364
*Ox* think of some of them. If ox can…
Makes me want to stampede a herd of cattle, no, make that bison (they’re meaner,) through a joint session of Congress being addressed by the President.
Don’t settle. Cape Buffalo.
I like the way you think.
*Halo* If we played our cards right and talked the people working on mammoth genetics into it, we could go even bigger….
Ah, like that latest Tarzan movie. I like it.
Ox slow. Not stupid.
Thank you.
There are good reasons that we censor ourselves. And there are things you just don’t *do* on American soil.
That said, the right to self defense is not one given by mortal man and easily taken away. much though they try and make it so. Plan, prepare, look out for your own. Beware, beware the Bubbe Effect.
scary
basically make the USA a colony of the global socialists (or as I like to call them – Glozis)
Steven den Beste used to call them “Transnational Socialists” or Tranzis for short.
Colonel Kratman uses the same designation, It fits them well.
tranzitrees. *giggle*
Communazi is an even better term and is very accurate as to their ideology.
I prefer ‘communofascist’ which side-steps the whole Godwin’s Law issue.
I’d love to dismiss your hypothesis, but can’t. It’s plausible, and ties in with other speculation I’ve read.
Thoughts on what to do? First response seems to be to do our best to deny them income. We’re trying to wean ourselves off of the ‘zon to deny *that* billionaire money. That approach will need a lot of people doing the same to have much of an impact. I’ll skip the whine about how tough it is in rural counties… [sigh]
For now, we have our own eyeballs and our own money – direct them to where they will do the most good to conservatives — and the most damage to the Establishment.
I got inspired by Nathan Brindle’s article last week and am looking into getting a Ham ticket. (27 years as a semiconductor engineer means I know *some* of the necessary bits.)
Haven’t considered Amazon for any of the equipment. Actually, my plan is to join the local club and ask around for used equipment first. OTOH, if I go new, there are places that aren’t Amazon where I can get what I need.
Me too, after we move.
I keep thinking about it myself. I looked in 8th grade, but in those days you could only stay novice for 2 years and then you needed to move to technician or general. Problem was the requirements for either of those were beyond what even a rather precocious 8th grader could hope for, and the hardware cost was prohibitive.
I’m curious why so many think we should follow the government’s rules for Ham radio in order to protest the freaking government!!
Mostly because they routinely DF anyone who isn’t and send a SWAT team?
The same reason we don’t go to the range with illegal machineguns to practice.
The purpose of becoming a ham isn’t to protest the government, it’s to develop the skills and contacts to maintain a means of communication the Tech Giants can’t shut off.
This. And, besides, with a largely self-regulated service like Ham radio, it’s an exceptionally bad idea to run your Spark-o-Matic with the Megawatt RF amplifier all over the bands. Insert Mr. T quote here: “Ah pity the fool.”
Me too. Bought the ARRL basic level learning manual.
I’m scoring over 80% on the Technician sample tests cold, and most of my wrong answers are “doh!” mistakes, so I think I’ll be able to swing that as soon as there are tests again here. I need to try the other levels cold – it would be cool to pull the hat trick.
The online tests that don’t require a live test proctor all look a little overparanoid, requiring things like continuous camera coverage of your entire working environment preferably from an angle where they can see your physical desktop and watch your hands, three online scorers staring at your eyes on camera the entire time you take the test, and an automatic fail if anyone else enters the frame while you’re taking the test.
If they handed out stacks of gold bars when you passed I could see this level of precautions, but for Technician class license?
A lot of the paranoia seems to be either directly written into the FCC regulations, or derive from the fact that the examiners are seriously liable if a testee is found cheating and isn’t failed. Part 97’s section on the examination is interesting. (97.509–yikes!)
I know how long it takes me to to the Technician test, and at the current level of study, it’s about twice that time to do the General test. Even if I had the video setup, I’d not want to spend the bandwidth to do so.
A few years ago, I’d have to drive over the Cascades to take the test, but now there are local exams every month.
As it stands, I have a few weeks to study. I’m more-or-less at the point where memorization is important, stuff like band boundaries and where various activities/services are running. Mercifully, I find I can memorize this stuff, and I’m not adverse to looking at the test question pool to make sure I have it down.
FWIW: http://www.arrl.org/find-an-amateur-radio-license-exam-session
will do just what the URL says.
The HAM test givers in silicon valley, and indeed statewide, are all locked down for the duration, so nothing is available in person – Though I note with interest that now that 扒殿周 (谁不是我的总统) has been coronated, our county hospitalization stats have unexpectedly improved, jumping from 8% ICU capacity available up to 12% overnight. Occupied ICU beds dropped by only one, but local hospitals suddenly found staff to open a chunk of ICU beds. I presume the word has gone out to the Party faithful that C19 is now to go away, so the hospitals will staff back up to their max levels that had over the summer, up about 15-20 more than now, at which levels our ICU availability stats would drop below the state lockdown criteria and businesses could start to reopen, so maybe the HAM testers will soon be able to schedule new sessions.
Best way to do it.
Back to the 70s and establish co-ops, maybe? Requires like-minded neighbors, which I realize is the sticking point for lots and LOTS of people. Just randomly thinking.
Why does your line of reasoning remind me of the dystopian future in RAH’s “Friday”?
To paraphrase something he wrote in the book, “How do you wage war against a company who’s location is a P.O. Box in Delaware?”
Heinlein gave the answer in Friday as well, asI recall..
It wouldn’t let me post
Last night Tim pool had Matt Braynard from Look Ahead America. He thought that we were beat on numbers and organization instead of fraud. I agree on the numbers and I don’t agree on his “evaluation” of the voter fraud. He says each of us should become lobbyists in our on States. He had a few solutions that sounded really good. He is also training on his website in several ways to inform legislators and get more educated voters.
No. It was the fraud. MASSIVE fraud.
Lobbying will do nothing.
Yes I agree. it was MASSIVE. WE still need to come together … I’m think Ark time actually.
I hadn’t finished the comment… I had to split it up so that WP would let me finish. BELOW
Lobbying is a good deal of the PROBLEM.
We still need to boost the margin of fraud. It would be Hell to stop the fraud and still lose.
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For those of us literally sick and tired, we may not be able to do this stuff. But we need to build communities. I am seeing a few people get together and are building their own websites, and communities in rural areas. Compounds if you will. That does take money and time, which some of us do not have. But we may need to pull together in real space… I was thinking of this recently.
The Dims are trying to fill the dying cities and yes, they’ve been trying to get control for a long time.
But we can’t give in to Despair. The one thing I’ve learned from my own personal Armegeddons is that sometimes I can only take one step at a time. No more… no less…
Seconded on the sick and tired, but always remember this. Every day we’re alive is another opportunity to do mischief unto the enemy. Just because we don’t see a way to do it this minute, we shouldn’t give up. You never know what will turn up tomorrow.
One of the best compilations of the 2020 Vote Fraud.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/12/yes-it-was-stolen-election-john-perazzo/
PUT IT IN THE PERMA PAGE FOR LINKS!
Save the page as a pdf file (~1.5M)! For when it gets blocked. All of the footnotes are spelled-out URLs, not hyperlinks, so a pdf will work fine.
The footnotes are indeed live links. Might be your browser doesn’t see ’em cuz of the associated vglnk style.
Page appears to have been exported from Word or the like, hence the odd formatting.
I clicked on the first link to the LA Times article. I’m practically speechless. The authors, AARON C. KAY AND MARK J. LANDAU, completely discount any possibility of there being fraud and attribute it to all of us being delusional.
I am confident that their discounting of any possibility is baseless and evidence free.
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I printed mine with a utility called PrimoPDF. My file was about .5 meg.
Tax compliance is largely voluntary. Just like all other laws. The powerful have this fantasy in their head that they will MAKE you do this or that. The reality is they don’t have one cop for every citizen, yet. Thus when taxes hit about 20% they stall. People find ways around them. Black market/underground economy. Most people would rather pay off the police to ignore them than send it in the rat hole that the national taxes are. An excellent example is the taxi business. It’s a government racket. The licensing fees are insane. So here in Detroit you have neighborhood ‘jitneys’ that will pick you up and take you to the store or doctor for $5 or $10. They speak English or whatever language prevails in your neighborhood – Spanish, Polish, or Chinese. They are polite and help you carry your stuff in. You have to be recommended from people who know you aren’t a cop or a stink or a head case and it’s a cash business.
It would be relatively trivial to drop the jackboot on that sort of thing. One of those mass “John Doe” warrants to collect all the cellphone data over a wide enough area, a fairly simple number-location-matching script, and issue warrants for “unlicensed taxis”, plus, hm, maybe tax fraud, that’s always good when going after cash transactions.
Whatever you’re doing, if it involves a cellular phone, the Warden can see it.
The USSR didn’t quite make it into the cellular age. If the Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti had had such a powerful tool, rooting out dissent would have been trivially simple.
Even “private” organizations in America have power the KGB never dared dream of.
No, it’s not trivially easy. China still has a hell of a time.
China hasn’t had quite the spread of the technological tools of surveillance spread as fast as the USA. Even rural areas of the US have smartphones, internet, and all the other means of perpetual surveillance, along with an ever increasing use of drone fleets by federal and state officials. Those drones used to “catch forest fires early” can very easily send their picks of people’s daily activity to Big Brother as well. No doubt Amazon’s fleet of delivery drones already do the same thing.
No. But they had it in Hong Kong. Still do. And they can’t put that down.
And this is where the trade-off comes in: live rural where you’re an isolated target vs in a city they can’t afford to nuke.
They couldn’t put Hong Kong down because they had a US administration that was actively opposing their effort; now they have an administration that thinks the CCP are the good guys and are actively trying to figure out how to do to their political opponents in the USA what the CCP does to theirs.
Good luck on the drones, with everyone at home. (Rolls eyes. Evil doth oft evil mar.)
there are ways to cloudy that that even John Doe warrants can’t deal with. You can make it so all they know is burner phone number XXX called burner phone number YYY at XX:30
I’m interested. Tell me how.
get burner phone for the chip card, degoogled phone, none in your real name or address, don’t use your old number, pay via cash or pay as go debit or start with a flip phone and stay there, buying time as needed, cash . . . some VPN work can be done as well, using a degoogled smartphone. But a burner flip bought and not registered to you by name or a degoogled phone is too much work for jigsaw to do much more than acknowledge a call was made from number X to number Y.
A home VPN would be needed too, so if you connect to the wifi your IP isn’t associated with that phone. I’ve seen some recomend using a degoogled smart phone to tether an internet connection and a VPN on that hides a lot. If jigsaw can’t associate anything, the warrant has nothing to go on
and all that requires is the FCC to decide that you need to do X Y and Z to have a phone and if you dont do it they cut you off
That someday something might be banned is no reason to not make use of it now.
but building your plans around it still being there isnt exactly good either.
I think they might run into issues with massive donors there, though.
That’s fine as long as they aren’t looking for you specifically.
Once the phone goes on the air, they can match the IMEI to the store that sold it, and to your face on the store video, and then work their way down likely hits in the facial recognition database.
And every time the phone turns on, it broadcasts its location. They can cross-check against all other phones in your area, just in case your other phone, car, or tablet are talking, and check the area for CCTV.
You’re calling from your car? License plate recognition is everywhere. Not just governments; Wal-Mart was an early adopter. More data points.
Pretty soon there are enough data points to start focusing on individuals.
“Pretty soon there are enough data points to start focusing on individuals.”
No, because by that point there are too many data points to allow you to focus on individuals.
“they can match the IMEI to the store that sold it,”
They have to know that’s an IMEI they’re interested in.
“and to your face on the store video,”
If they can get to the store soon enough after you bought it that the video is still around.
THIS.
you are not going to get rid of data points, even if you stop using a phone. What you need to do is cloud the points. the more doing so, the cloudier it gets.
Or you can just give over, buy an iPhone, shop at Wallyworld, and know every step of your day, all day, every day, is being monitored (which is why iphone battery life is so minuscule) because your phone includes GPS data (ever visit a restaurant or shop and Google or Apple ask you to leave a review, moments after you’ve left?), instead of “this number was in range of these towers at this time when a call was made”
make them work more for it
THIS.
Seriously? Conservatives will complain endlessly about the left rubbing things like Folsom Street Parade in their face, or oversexualized advertising, and then pull this garbage.
Hire a dominatrix and deal with your fetishes in private. We are trying to have a serious political discussion here.
“License plate recognition is everywhere.”
Yep, it sure is. They tried using it for red light cameras in AL until some good elf leaked the “cover tags” politicians got issued so they can’t be tied to their real license plate when sneaking around ignoring various laws. Real soon, said cover tags had enough tickets to paper city hall. The cameras went away. When enough people realize the issue, those license plate printers will fire up again.
Who issued the cover tags? What is the Alabama government? Sheesh. Corruption everywhere you look.
Usually the police department that covered the jurisdiction, because they were intended for use on unmarked police cars for undercover operations. If someone was able to check the license plate database (and private investigators, employers, et could do that) then a tag with the cover name and address would pop up.
I know this because my dad was in insurance and two high school friends were in law enforcement and private investigation; all three had the ability to check even as non-cop investigators. One went to work with US Customs later; this practice also happened at the Federal level.
It’s always a trivial effort to be brutal if that’s your end goal. No explanation needed.
But if you want to nail someone for a crime while keeping the semblance of a working legal system… well… I’m no criminal, but even I can think of ways to get around that!
Always remember that the Left is trying to stop you from making their own lives harder, not crime prevention. It’s taxing their juvenile minds to the max to come up with a decent excuse for what they’re doing, and they have already failed.
The country is not what it was. Do not pine for something that is not there. Live with vegeance in mind.
What eventually happens is you just insure nothing happens over celluar. Too much use of that power will the opposite of “Fight for $15” in relevant areas: push for de-automation.
Not power, resources.
Unanalyzed data is only useful in potentia.
Analysts are a limited resource. You have to prioritize their use.
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There are reasons oligarchs are pushing so hard for AI.
This is one of them.
But it might not be possible, in the sense they want it.
This is, perhaps, the most depressing thing I’ve read in a while. However, given the anti-human belief system of the opposition it is plausible. In fact, it makes sense in a fiendish sort of way. They wish to make a fortune, die without children and take the rest of humanity into extinction.
For some reason it puts me in mind of the umedvirk brain parasite in Harry Harrison’s _Planet of the Damned_.
They are the descendants of Mrs. Keithley.
To stop them we must all become Joe and Gail.
Point taken.
That is actually quite apt. Mrs. Keithly was both very deranged and very rich.
What do we do? Hebrews 13:5-6… https://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/home.html
But remember Job. The enemy has to get God’s permission first. And then, 2 Corinthians 4:7-18.
It may not be fun; but in the end we win, they lose. And they lose bigger than they make us suffer. Far more.
Amen. We pray and know this is part of God’s plan to make people turn to Him. No matter how sad we get.
We’ve been waiting six or seven months for God to deliver our home (He found us an apartment in town), which sits on our property in two sections, with four days of rain in our future.
Then the ground needs to dry.
But I know He will provide in His time, not mine. Give Him the praise and glory.
I am reminded of another bit of wisdom from my Catholic education. This time from a letter by St. Thomas More to his daughter Margaret written while imprisoned in the Tower of London awaiting execution
> And, therefore, my own good daughter, do not let your mind be troubled over anything that shall happen to me in this world. Nothing can come but what God wills. And I am very sure that whatever that be, however bad it may seem, it shall indeed be the best.
Maybe this crap **is** God’s will.
Even if I assume the reports about God’s interventions are reliable, there really is no reason to assume that She/He/It is playing an honest game. Maybe the whole salvation thing is a con and our reward in the afterlife is determined by when we die — odd numbered souls go to heaven, even numbered souls go to hell. I am not aware of any conception of the Middle Eastern God that requires She/He/It behaves as we humans expect.
BTW, Thomas More is the patron saint of lawyers, civil servants, politicians, difficult marriages, and adopted children. There is considerable irony there.
Maybe it is God’s will, although I have my doubts. We are not Israel and even with them he seems to avoid the nitty-gritty most generations.
God gave man one thing that distinguishes himself from all the rest of Creation: the ability to create. The animals can build and it is reasonable to believe the Host can as well, but they build only that which is taught them either by instinct, parent, or command. Even the Host has free will, but if used to turn from God it can only create mockeries and not new things, hence no matter how long Satan rules in Hell, not a new Heaven.
I suspect this situation is of man’s creation and it is his to get out of. Only if it gets so out of whack that it risks condemning all of humanity to a second rebellion and thus thwarting the planned New Heaven and New Earth will he intervene directly.
I won’t say we’re on our own, but beyond spiritual aid and comfort I suspect he’ll let us figure this one out on our own.
God gives nations chances to repent of their evil, and their pride, and their rebellion.
If they repent, then they don’t get destroyed.
At some point, though, nations that don’t repent run out of time.
And then they get destroyed; by natural disasters, by barbarian invaders, by their own society collapsing from the inside, any or all of the above.
That’s… just historical fact. I couldn’t say whether that’s what’s happening here and now, but our coalmine canaries (as described in Romans 1) have been dying for 10, 30, 50 years now. They’re only getting worse, and there’s no sign that our leaders want to repent of their wrongdoing on behalf of the nation.
So… if we have run out of time, it’s not going to be the end of the world. Just the end of our world.
I have long believed that God has blessed America, and withheld punishment for the millions of murdered babies over the past 50 years, because we have (so far) been a staunch ally of Israel and thereby defenders of His chosen people, and he promised Abraham that “I will bless those who bless you” (Genesis 12:3, ESV).
Who wants to bet that our government continue to be a staunch ally of Israel over the next four years? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
“Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.” – Galatians 6:7, ESV. In context it refers to individuals choosing to do good rather than evil, but the Bible shows over and over that God applies the same principle to nations.
But keep Psalm 91 in mind also. “He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. […] You will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday. A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. You will only look with your eyes and see the recompense of the wicked.” Over and over in the Bible we see God punishing a nation for its sins but sparing individuals (Lot, Rahab, etc) who didn’t deserve the punishment the rest of the nation had earned. So even if I’m right and judgment is going to fall on America for turning away from Israel, that doesn’t mean that those individuals who are still doing their best to support Israel will suffer the judgment falling on the nation. Even if all they can do is just a little bit, God looks at the individual’s circumstance, and doesn’t compare the outcome to others: look at Jesus’ praise for the widow who gave her two little coins.
If you can conceive of something good, there must be a being of ultimate Good. And since existence is the first and most important good thing, without which there cannot be anything else good, it argues that Ultimate Good Being is also Being That Started the Universe Existing.
Vastly simplified, because I don’t do philosophy.
That’s what it takes.
Maybe, maybe not.
The problem (with their probable plan, not your theory) is that uneducated third-world conscripts — which is what this new Army would almost certainly be comprised of, emphasis on “conscripts” — and high tech, cutting-edge military systems aren’t exactly compatible. As in the conscripts don’t have the technical know-how to properly operate, let alone correctly maintain, their weapons, vehicles, etc. So they’ll have the most advanced military in the world…. for a little while. Certainly nowhere near the 5-10 years it will take for Americans to figure out what’s gone down. Then things will start breaking as things do, and the People’s Army will find itself unable to fix them, and Our Betters ([SPIT!]) they’ll find themselves with an army equipped with lots of shiny whiz-bang weapons that don’t work and can’t be used.
Hell, the Armed Forces we have RIGHT NOW is having a damned hard time keeping their toys up and running as it is (Navy’s in especially bad shape from what I here). Replace the competent folks we have now with third-world conscripts and I give it six months tops before the whole works grinds to a screeching halt.
Granted, that opens up a whole ‘nother can o’ works (and probably more than one), but still…
Yes– this has happened before when our “dear” leaders sent arms to their third-world allies.
Ponder the stories of the ‘Arab’ military who won’t let underlings see the *instruction manuals* for the gear they have to maintain, but/and also will not ‘lower’ themselves to maintain it themselves. Israel doesn’t have to be good. Israel just has to be ever-so-slightly LESS INCOMPETENT – and that’s more than enough.
Now, ponder a few ‘good ol’ boys’ with a just a wee of an …. attitude… and despite what coastal elites claim, more genuine basic competence than all of Harvard.
Those poor bastards.
and Israel is damned good, to boot.
They’re not very good. They’re embarrassingly incompetent. They don’t do the little things very well, like deconfliction of friendly forces, or making sure people get enough sleep.
Remember when Hizbullah whacked the Hanit with an antiship missile in 2008 or so? They’d actually shut off the ESM rig because it kept warning that hostile radars were tracking the ship. They never detected the damn missile until it went KABOOM!
They’re reasonably good for a more or less citizen militia. It helps that their most frequent enemies are completely useless.
Little brother is a PhD student (astrophysics, so thankfully not Woke) and sometimes-teacher of Undergrad at Harvard. He’ll be the first to tell you that there is little actual competency there, just a MASSIVE superiority complex that has been mistaken for competency.
Same in all the highly regarded professions I know.
That said, he himself has fallen prey to the Harvard Superiority Complex at times, though thankfully he’s self-aware enough to recognize it and l, when called on it, own up to it.
Less thankfully, he’s drunk at least some Liberal Kool-Aid, though that was inevitable after over a decade in academia.
Get a shovel. Hand spade 2000 sq feet of vegetable garden any time you get feeling that superiority complex again. Sweat, busted blisters, and aching shoulders do wonders for humility realignment.
Alternatively, build rock walls, by hand.
Drystone walls are cool. It’s like Jenga meets jigsaw puzzles. I want to do that someday.
The really cool things are the big drystone wall fortresses/palaces down in Africa. I mean, yes, very much behind the times of even Ireland’s drystone buildings, but holy crud do they look cool.
Yep– We used to have to work hard to become electronic techs and especially troubleshooters. Then the next group that came only had to change out modules. Didn’t even have to do their own troubleshooting. Then in the 2000s we were getting techs who couldn’t do that… they had to be told each step… It’s amazing how repair techs have gone downhill in training and uphill in ego.
Main problem is that it’s much cheaper to have a new widget built with slave labor than to have a skilled technician figure out what’s wrong with the old one, find the necessary parts, and fix it.
True– still widgets made with slave labor don’t seem to last that long.
And the demonrats are more likely to cut the military budget than to give money to keep up the “systems of oppression”…
And they already don’t trust the military.
There are films of NG units with their backs turned to the motorcade, although that could be an ordered position so I’m not reading too much into it. But, given what some of the “dangerous” items flagged from social media among troops including (NRA and Gadsden flags) they are already going for Imperial Guard levels of conformity. That’ll start hitting mainline NCOs soon and once that happens they’ll have gutted the armed forces.
Apparently on inauguration day, Biden was given instructions by his handlers through his earpiece as he came to the Marines to “salute the Marines”. Biden instead of saluting verbalized the instructions and said out loud, “salute the Marine.” Now that he has been installed, the Democratic Party media is no longer denying or trying to hide these episodes that show severe mental decline. They know Harris is President in all but name and the only real question is when she officially replaces Biden.
Gutting the armed forces is their goal. They think the USA is the world’s source of evil and that the US military is the primary instrument of that evil.
I keep hearing tales of leading Democrats demanding underlings avoid eye contact — e.g., reports from the Clinton White House that Hillary insisted that, when she traversed the halls, all staff had to vacate the area and, should they still somehow run into her, avert their gaze lest they make eye contact.
That does not seem an effective way to build loyalty.
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Look at the Iranian military and how it has survived under US Embargo. Now consider that isn’t a third world conscript army in terms of educational base or tradition and it is operating in a world where spares are available even if by underground markets.
The main objection to this would be that it requires competence on the other side.
Yuuuup.
but even incompetently done, it has the potential for large amounts of spillage in the omelet making
This is my FB post from Dec 2, 2020. I think it is relevant to this convo.
It is a grievous thing to be so helpless as to have to rely on the incompetence of your enemies
On the plus side, it’s a big, complicated plan. Such plans both tend to fail and generate unintended consequences. Hubris blinds people. And there’s a certain herding cats aspect as well. People united by greed tend to fall into killing each other fairly soon.
Antifa didn’t make it a full 24 hours before breaking from the coalition. The Democrats promised too many people too many conflicting things for their coalition to work for long… and they’re only going to be able to deliver what Dominion allows anyway.
Antifa’s upset because their paychecks stopped coming. Some of their people were happy to go back home and work real jobs, but others weren’t. I think it’s the less well-to-do ones, the ones that aren’t making money from mommy and daddy, or getting those big money corporate/non-profit jobs, or going back to grad school.
Being made an example of in 3… 2… 1….
Scott Lowther posted this today on “Upship”, it’s revealing.
Foreign-born population in the US from 1850 to 2019.
“Note the rather sudden spike starting about 1960, becoming clear in 1973, and a massive wave in just a year or three after that”
Yes, but seriously. I am one of those. My kids usually have friends with one foreign parent.
What you and a lot of “nativism uber allas” people miss is WHY we’re here.
I’d guess 2/3 of the non-Mexican/central-South American immigrants are here escaping some form and severity of socialism/communism.
Don’t throw us under the bus when we’re already like cornered wolverines fighting for our last place on Earth.
The illegals? Sure. Mostly economic. I’d bet you even so a good half of them don’t want this shit.
These are natural-born-American Marxists a lot of them 3rd generation red diaper babies.
NOTE this doesn’t mean I want open borders. Having acculturated I know how hard it is, and I think each immigrant should be CAREFULLY vetted for his/her desire to be Americans. AND they should Fit In Or Fuck Off.
Our standards for citizenship are FAR too lenient as is.
BUT place of birth means fuck all.
my commie great uncle and his nearly as leftoid brothers were all born here. The people I know who hate the leftoid B.S. the most are all immigrants, most having fled said same B.S.
CAREFULLY vetted for his/her desire to be Americans. AND they should Fit In Or Fuck Off.
That sounds great, but once the country is flooded with enough foreign born, a significant contingent of whom refuse to conform, and a constant demonizing of attempt to tighten up standards prior to one finally being enacted there will be neither the manpower for the patience to do that.
I don’t like it. It’s one reason I’d like to have had the GOP build the damn wall, not so much for effectiveness per se, but for the power of the “come here to become an American and do it legally” statement it would make to potential immigrants, to people already here, and to natives wanting to shut down immigration from the most welcoming to the least.
The past four years have done more to strengthen the hardcore nativists, by making them the only game in town outside of full open borders or worse, than anything I’ve seen.
Yeah. Ask me how happy this makes those of us who are on our last redoubt.
Because after Usurper Joe, we’re going to be as hated as the freeloaders. And our kids, if they’re visibly different (well, mine tan. They’re all big and ugly) will be hated as well, even though they’re Americans and have nowhere else to go.
I gotta nit. “We can tan” means you started off white. It’s exactly the opposite of being a “brown person” who started off brown. And it’s hardly unusual:
My 100% British dad could tan so dark he outdid the naturally-brown Mandan Indians (at the time handy to compare). My 100% Norwegian [maternal] aunt and uncle could do almost as well (and reportedly so could their dad). We used to see a LOT of this with us pale northern European types… back when most people worked outdoors and sunscreen didn’t exist. You’ll still see it out in farm and ranch country.
We have built in tan. But we also tan ridiculously easy. Younger son tans near a 20 watt light bulb.
My Ex, descended at least partly from Bohemian Jews, would get flak from the Ojibwe Indian kids at her school on the edge of the reservation for not going to Indian class. Nope, she just tans that brown.
We do too.
And I’m used to considering older son “light skinned” but recently I was informed he’s swarthy. I guess it’s what you’re used to?
Cynthia Applegate’s family of origin were French Jews from the Alsace. Cynthia is my great-great-great grandmother.
FYI. We were raised by the religion of fishing, hunting, and camping. Checking in with the Episcopal Church at Christmas, Easter, and a few Sundays between.
Her great-great-grandsons, dad and his two brothers, all tan extremely dark. To the point where one Uncle gets detained at the US-Mexico border regularly. Less often now that passports are required. After all driver’s license can be fake, don’t ya know.
I tan (or did) easily too. Just not as dark. My poor sister got the blond blue eye genes from mom’s side of the family. She barely tans.
Unlike my dad, who could notice the sun had come up and get three shades darker, I don’t tan easily. But neither do I burn easily, so I’m just weird. Tho I did develop some permanent tan from 28 years as a desert rat… been almost 9 years and it’s still not entirely faded away.
Younger son tans because the snow is melting. From inside the house. I SWEAR.
There are times I would love that. Being Fair Folk ( 😉 ) I tend to burn when the clouds think about going away.
Even DIL who is blond and blue eyed tans. Apparently Amerindian in the gene pile. LOTS of it.
I can’t wait to see what Bahbies look like.
They’ll be adorable
Supposing they ever feel they have a country to raise them in, I suppose?
I’m hoping for little dandelion-puff-haired brats.
And I *am* the snow. I can never meet younger son. Just standing next to him I’d burn.
LOL
Sure now, do not be telling us you think clouds block the UV????
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Well, sez I, all I know is I don’t get ruddier when it’s raining, so.
So no confusing poor simple ould Pat with yer fancy science talk now!
So we fight them too. I expected that.
“That sounds great, but once the country is flooded with enough foreign born, a significant contingent of whom refuse to conform, and a constant demonizing of attempt to tighten up standards prior to one finally being enacted there will be neither the manpower for the patience to do that.”
Recipe for constant domestic violence, chaos, and rule by iron fist.
I am foreign born with American parents. I’ve also lived several years outside the US in Japan, Panama, and Germany. There is nowhere to run outside the US. Maybe one of the Eastern European countries– because they still remember being under the Soviet thumb.
Poland. But they’re too close to dangerous countries.
WWII tells us the reason that they are in a bad spot.
As someone put it, “great tank country”.
It really is! One of the tour group in Poland observed me staring out the window as the train rolled north from Krakow to Warsaw and asked what I was thinking. I said that “It’s easy to see why this is such a good invasion route for horse-cavalry and modern armor.” When pressed, I pointed out some of the visible reasons. She . . . was rather uncomfortable.
Hmm. Guess that’s when you need to remind people about private tank ownership. *G*
One of the Pournelle et al. War World anthologies had a prologue story of a group from a planet colonized by Poles, with a character who said it was a shame to have to leave because it was a nice planet that was defensible, unlike the original homeland a/k/a “The Land Without Frontiers”.
“What you and a lot of “nativism uber allas” people miss”
Boy that’s a lot of assuming going on about me!
It’s just a well done graphic showing the stunning results of policy changes over the years, there is NO judgment whatsoever as to the desirability of these changes or not. Geeze.
I wasn’t assuming anything ABOUT YOU. Except that you were showing the graphic for a reason and the reason being you believed people coming in at all was a bad thing. If not, why share it?
BUT I am tired of that point of view onto the eyebrows and past.
I’m in The UK. Look what they’ve done to my country. In a generation there wont ‘be’ a Britain any more (it lost the Great decades ago).
30+ years of fighting, and collecting ballistic body piercings, for my country with ‘maybe’ two years total spent at home, only to return and find that every one of the ‘enemies’ I’ve been fighting has been given a council house and benefits (and that me and mine aren’t ‘eligible’).
I thought all was lost, then I stopped moaning and looked about. And just like there, outside of a few enclaves, ‘we’ are still here.
Look, no I mean really look, at those campaign event photos. Look at the real results of the election. Those are what illustrate the real situation.
You aren’t a tiny, embattled and embittered minority fighting a rear-guard action. You’re a massively overwhelming majority that’s being hoodwinked. You’re being sold a lie. Look behind that curtain Dorothy.
Just why are they so manically happy yet patently terrified at the moment? They know they’ve gotten away with it, yet fear you’ve noticed. They’re desperate to get away with what they can before you stop them.
You’re suffering Gell-Mann amnesia. You ‘know’ the results of this election are so false as to make the devil wince. So what makes you simply accept that all those other elections, from local dog-catcher upward aren’t? You ‘know’ that all the poll results are fabricated, so why blindly accept that there is an almost 50:50 Repub/Dem split? Even in the so-called Dem strong-holds, you really believe the numbers they spout? Why?
You’re all already looking around and noticing there weren’t/aren’t that many Biden supporters in your towns. What makes you think there ever were? And yet almost all the elected posts ‘will’ be filled with leftists, right?
I’m a loner, but quite sociable (don’t need anybody, but enjoy a chat). I’ve spoken to many people and barring the rarest exception (purely coincidentally I’m sure, all who work for the government, local or national) everyone expresses ‘right-wing’ (ie. normal) views. The base assumption that a population is 20% left, 20% right and 60% middle/don’t know/don’t care is false. It’s more like 5% (or however many in your locale work for ‘the man’ or personally benefit from the system) left, 35% openly right, 40% quietly/go along to get along right, and 20% don’t care.
But they own the system. They own the media. They tell you what they want you to believe – but it’s ‘all’ lies (not just the bits you recognise as such).
What they fear above all else is that we will wake up, start seeing the truth. DJT could have screwed up everything else in his tenure and still be the greatest President ever because people (all around the world) are now looking askance at their elections, asking questions and doubting the answers they’re getting. He twitched that curtain back just enough.
So? They know they’re vulnerable. They aren’t going to use force they haven’t got. They are going to claim they do, and browbeat you into compliance. If enough don’t comply they wither and die. If nothing else, ‘work to rule’, follow their play-book and obstruct whilst looking like you’re complying.
They own the voting. Hmm, if you can’t think of ways to negate that then you aren’t trying. Dominion is an electrical machine. Election supervisors and counters are positions chosen – so make sure they are honest (whatever it takes).
Contrary to the narrative, there really aren’t that many of them. They’re that class president, the only one who wants the job, that nobody likes, not some leader of a mysterious hidden majority. It’s not that “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely” it’s that “power attracts the corrupt and corruptible”. Normals don’t want those jobs, we want to live our lives, not meddle in other peoples, unless pushed too far and as a reaction to the abuses. That is what DJT was/is (what, you think he wanted the money, power, celebrity?), so be like him. Take back what’s ours – they didn’t build it.
I think you might be new here; because what you are saying has been a continual theme of the blog. Even before the completely honest election proved it true.
Would you do be a favor and explain in simple terms even a slow ox might understand, just what a “council house’ is. I assume (and might well be Quite Wrong Indeed) it is slightly less lousy ‘public housing’ than the apartments that were attempted (with predictably disastrous result) in various US cities. Thank you.
s/be/me/ (see, ox s-l-o-w).
Gee, I just figured your nose was stuffed up. And then, it went to your hooves and affected your typing… 😛
You have the correct impression.
Projects.
Ah, apologies, two nations divided by a common language issues again (there I go again and whenever I’ve visited I’ve deliberately not worn my red coat, only tried to buy Durex once – ouch, and was only arrested the once when I sat in a bar where large hairy gentlemen were waxing loquacious about their new red suspenders – I only sang the first few verses of “I’m a lumberjack” after all officer. Well, if you discount the time I was cross-training at Eglin and ‘acquired’ one of your red, who knew, road lights and ‘accidentally’ left it outside the female officers quarters – I still think the complaints were more about the inflated amounts on the price-list I left too).
A council house, or more commonly now a housing association property run by, you guessed it, the council, is any property (many of them quite salubrious, from small apartments/flats up to many room mansions) which are let at below market rates to officially favoured persons.
Think Section 8
They were ‘meant’ to be an alternative to unscrupulous private landlords demanding exorbitant rents (and incidentally only willing to rent to people who’d, you know, actually pay them). What we got though is properties only rented to whichever demographic the PC idiots favour this week (ie. if you are British, white, especially if male or an intact family, they wont be able to stifle the laughter as they kick you out).
Ah… so where “Compo” (Last of the Summer Wine… dated, I know) would live…IF he were looked on upon Just So – which he would not be in This Modern Age. Thank you.
Compo?
I resemble that remark (unfortunately more than I care to think about. I ‘know’ I’m still 21, trim, svelte and fit. Then I look in the mirror and wonder why my father is looking back at me, or walk past a darkened department store window and wonder who the doddery old guy following me is … Oh Sh..)
Not necessarily, when it was set you could rent privately or buy for reasonable amounts. then they changed the mortgage policies (to be fairer – to the bankers and rich) and it went from three times your yearly salary, to three times your combined salaries or the income from renting. So prices, predictably, went up (think Saturn V). So women who worked a few hours ‘to help out’ then ‘had’ to work full-time, all of them. Now only landlords or the rich can afford to buy, or the council, and rents are now so high couples both have to work to pay even that. throw in the massive Labour encouraged and rewarded immigration and competition for properties is just silly. so? only the rich or the unemployed (who get everything paid for) can afford anything. Welcome to socialised Britain
Ox head hurt again.
some years back a lady I chatted with in Cornwall and her hubby/partner/whatever were buying half an old townhouse, and were working on a few improvements (cistern in attic needed something, iirc and other minor things).
For what they paid, at the then exchange rates, they could have gotten a large Victorian, on a good sized lot, with views of Lake Michigan in the third largest city (small, pop. 12,000+) here in the U.P. of Michigan.
So it’s like Seattle or San Francisco then? (Growing population from immigration, restricted geography.)
I think people in flyover country have no real concept of how insane the real estate market is in the West Coast cities. When Ex and I bought our West Seattle house in 2009 (deliberately: I was waiting for the inevitable crash and bought at the bottom of the market) her parents in Minneapolis were appalled at how much we spent, and we had to convince them that no, you can’t buy a tarpaper shack for $100K around here, and that $220K was a once-in-a-lifetime deal even for a fixer on a short sale. (Also it’s not 1974 when they bought their house for $40K).
When we applied for a mortgage, the bank said “you qualify for $400K” and I literally laughed at them. Nowadays even $400K gets you an older townhouse outside of Seattle city limits — if you’re lucky.
likely. or they know, but it really doesn’t sink in.
My place, though needing work (little or a lot depending on what one can put up with) was a whopping $23,000. Though a Texas coworker quipped that $76,000 for a house trailer on ¾ or so acres was a bit high . . . until I showed him the overhead and the back yard was the Green Bay. One of my options was 12 acres, with the acreage backed into Escanaba State Forrest lands for $69,000. I was looking at finance via payroll deduction, (forget if it is the same company as retirement plan and HSA or not) and low end of market rates, and they refused to lend me that little.
my grandparents bought their house for $85k in the 80s, and a decade later were insisting that ” the new house next door went for $240k it can’t be worth that much out house was $85k…”
(yeah, at that point their house was valued slightly north of 300k…)
Um. We paid $78k for our house Nov. ’88 … As is, now, it is worth north of $350k. OTOH for us to buy property (1/2 acre-ish) and build our dream home, with good quality, excellent value, but not expensive, materials, we’d pay $350k; and pay the property taxes on $350k. While our property taxes aren’t based off of our original purchase price, thanks to Prop 35 (equivalent in Oregon) it is considerably less than the current value. Doesn’t mean we wouldn’t make the leap should we find the correct property in the right area. That has been the problem. We’ve know where we don’t want to be locally. We don’t know where we want to be.
Restricted is an understatement!
Britain isn’t that tiny but with its population it is crowded. I’m used to more ‘under-developed’ areas where ‘wilderness’ means you can walk for a week and not see a paved, or unpaved for that matter, road. In Britain there is, I believe ‘one’ small area in the north-west of Scotland where you can, just, manage to be more than two miles away from a house/farm/road. In most of the country wilderness is somewhere where the trees temporarily hide the next farm.
People elsewhere can’t really understand how ‘cramped’ a country like this is, most people here can’t seem to conceive of anything different.
Whilst growing population and immigration hasn’t helped, the financial shenanigans are the real cause of price increases. My parents bought a house in 1882 for £10k. In 1994, on leave, I almost bought a house 3 bed mews in (expensive) Hampstead for £60k. Parents house, not theirs for some years, just sold for £190k. The house in Hampstead is now listed at £60million (and yes I kick myself regularly and forcefully). Still with that £60k I bought a quarter near Orofino (wish I still had it).
There are more people fighting over a limited supply but in 1982, as a wet behind the ears 2nd Lt. I couldn’t get a mortgage with 25% down even if I begged. Now I receive 100% confirmed agreements ‘just sign by the pencilled mark’ through the post weekly and I’m not unusual. Anyone can get a mortgage, but no one can afford anything. go figure.
My brother and sister and I visited the Lake Country in 1976, and were kind of boggled to see all the warning posters in the youth hostels that we dossed down in – warning about the ‘wilderness’ that was so dangerous, all around! The high hills, the sudden weather, the horrific cliffs, etc! And we had grown up in country that made the Lake Country look like a well-manicured park in comparison. We came to the realization that just about all those people were urban folk, and who came to the Lake Country having never, ever, actually been in wilderness. True wilderness, that we were accustomed to. A little fog, a couple of hundred acres that hadn’t been paved and fenced … well, that was … something that the average visitor to a youth hostel in the Lake Country (or the Highlands of Scotland) were not mentally prepared to deal with.
The Lake District (really not sure why it’s called that, We’re a little strange like that. I’m currently in Cumbria, or Cumberland depending on who you talk to, the time of day, and phase of the moon) is beautiful but when you have to (literally) queue to go up a mountain (that’ll be hill or possibly a slight gradient to you) you know it’s really not a wilderness.
People do regularly die there (I was part of Mountain Rescue as a teenager before joining up and rescued/recovered a number) but as with hypothermia (people don’t die of it in really cold weather. People aren’t stupid, they stay in or dress appropriately. They die in mild weather. Something happens, maybe lost, maybe an injury. They get wet, and dressed for a mild day … they die) it’s the ‘almost’ safe that lulls them into a false sense of security (Hey, it can’t really be dangerous I can see a farm and a town from here). Falls, bogs, blown off cliffs, silly minor problems and as you say, they aren’t prepared equipment wise (don’t get me started on the numbers rescued walking in T-shirts and training shoes because it was a nice day when they set off, this is Britain where if it doesn’t rain for two consecutive days there is a hose-pipe ban and panic in the streets), but more importantly mentally.
It isn’t exclusively a British thing (I hope), I know Bear (Grylls) and the only reason he ‘exaggerates’ is because American TV wants it so. I remember watching one (Oregon) episode where he ‘struggled mightily and desperately’ to survive until … I suddenly noticed/recognised where he was. Where I and the locals went for a quiet stroll when the weather was nice once. Then it struck me, aimed as it at the American market, he was playing to the city dwellers.
Pah, townies lol
(Forgive me I wont be replying further, not bad manners, but I apparently fell foul, somehow, not sure exactly, of Foxifier and will thus not be visiting, even to lurk from now on. Amazing that our side is every bit as bad as the side we complain about, sigh. So I’ll bid you adieu.)
Er. Foxfier has her hot buttons. You don’t need to disappear from the blog for that. The answer is to say “I won’t be discussing this anymore.”
I was about to say “Hey, drop it,” anyway, only I’ve been busy elsewhere.
Believe it or not people in this blog have had knock down drag out arguments and remain friends and part of the community. Sometimes even arguments with me.
This place is indeed a place of magic. It’s old school. You can fight like dogs, like we used to be able to do. Then you take a breath, shake hands, and have a beer.
I’m very new, but that seems to be the way of things here.
Fighting like dogs means being willing to expose your throat — and willing to not rip open the exposed throat of another.
We fight to generate light, not heat. That means we abide by rules, using reason, evidence, and logic.
Our chief weapon is Reason, reason and evidence. Evidence and Reason. Our two weapons are evidence and reason. And logic. The three main weapons of the Hun Inquisition are evidence, reason, and logic …. and mockery.
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“We fight to generate light, not heat…” This. Exactly this.
Should you come in again?
Don’t quit. Admit when you are wrong. Agree to disagree. Agree to Agree.
Some of the most Fun I’ve had is reading Vigorous comments, some would say arguments, where the commenters were arguing past each other, from the same-side/point-of-view! But none caught on. Unless others took pity and pointed it out – but where is the fun in that? I mean really!
Just my 2 cents.
Foxfier likes to argue, and she also likes to agree vociferously. If she’s arguing with you, she probably thinks it’s a worthwhile argument. Occasionally she notices something weird and thinks it’s a false note, and sometimes she’s right and sometimes she’s wrong. But she’s worth arguing with.
Do not make that decision lightly.
Eh, don’t let that seeming running afoul stop you. When Ian & Foxfier are in agreement, THAT’S an “Uh oh” condition.
Ian and Foxfier agreeing? Yikes! (Makes me want to run for cover.)
Lots of people here like to argue. I personally hate arguing and most people are better at it than I am so I don’t argue. Also, I’ve been hanging around on this blog since 2012 and I’ve never had anyone try and force an argument on me.
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#metoo
Having seen (photos of) signs warning that it is dark after the sun goes down, I think I’m inured to how ignorant people can be.
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Not only that, Bob’s been making sense again. So, soooo scary! 😮
parents 1982, Duh!
Compared to the USA, Britain is that tiny. It’s a platitude that most Europeans have no idea just how huge and how relatively empty the United States is.
And that doesn’t even cover Alaska, where I grew up.
(Likewise I think US westerners don’t compute how densely populated the greater East Coast is. It’s like the exurbs just go on and on and on and never stop until you get to the next urb, but even that isn’t nearly as dense as the UK. BTW https://randomstreetview.com/ is fun.)
East coast has no idea how empty the West can be. Even I’m amazed when we drive freeways where there are exit/on access ramps (multiple) explicitly for One ranch.
I’ve been part of conversations where someone responded “Wait? There is no cell coverage?” or sadly where I’ve responded “Yes. GPS reliance for roads in Oregon has gotten people killed.”
THIS
Right — I have relatives (my brother’s wife’s family) from Germany who came to visit them in Utah a couple decades back. As they drove across Nevada towards Oregon and California, the Germans just could not fathom that they were looking at places where nobody actually lived. (Of course, in much of Nevada, nobody can easily live there anyway!) The Germans could also not wrap their heads around just how extensive the forests they saw in the Western USA actually were. Their own forests are much smaller, and they had been taught that the naughty Americans had cut down all their trees.
Their eyes really bugged out when they came face to trunk with the California redwood trees! 😉
Heck, what blew my mind on first landing here was the forests in PENNSYLVANIA.
I follow a number of home builder Youtube channels and websites (Essential Craftsman, Matt Reisinger’s Build Show, This Old House, etc.), and British and European commenters are always coming on and saying “I can’t believe you Amis build garbage houses out of wood and tear them down in 50 years — we build our houses out of brick and concrete block to last forever.” The real response to this is “we didn’t cut down all our forests 300 years ago, and we manage trees like farm crops so wood is inexpensive enough to build much bigger houses than you do and then throw them away when we’re done.” Also, “I thought you guys were supposed to be superior to us in all this carbon nonsense. Do you have any idea how much carbon goes into making concrete?”
Also, as a West Coaster: “Ahem. You don’t have earthquakes. Shut up.”
“we build our houses out of brick and concrete block to last forever.”
Kinda makes it a problem to update your wiring, plumbing, and insulation, doesn’t it?
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I’m getting a kick out of watching the show on HGTV (? might be Discovery), “Escape to the Chateau”, where the English couple bought and is rejuvenating the French Chateau for a home, Bed & Breakfast, Wedding destination and venue. “Kinda makes it a problem to update your wiring, plumbing, and insulation, doesn’t it?” You must be joking? Right? big grin /sarcasm-jic … Must admit however … What insulation? The way it was put on the show, the 4 foot walls are the insulation. They have a lot of window seating, you know those little niches in expensive homes in the US that are considered a “luxury”. Then interior. Those interior walls and floors must be easy to manipulate? Right? You’d think? Just ask the couple. You might get an answer when the get done ROFLOL and done crying. That is just what they show on the show.
FYI. Love what they’ve completed so far (shown on the show). Not all my choices (I hate wall paper, not for the look, just when it has to be redone). Love what she did with the fabric walls (OTOH our cats would love us … it wouldn’t last). Looking forward to the in-law suite reveal in the old stable complex.
When I came back home after being stationed in Germany one of the first things I did was point the car toward the Cascades and drive. And drive, and drive…. Until I got tired of going in one direction.
Germany is the size of Oregon–you can blaze across a huge chunk of the EU in a day. They have no concept of the sheer space involved in America.
In 1994, I drove from Spangdahlem (western border) to Neuschwanstein (far southeast), did the tour, and drove back in 14 hours.
Yes-Sir! That’s Arnold Palmer for the win!
I lived in Germany for six years– you could get to one side to another in a couple of hours. To get to the Netherlands it might take 4-6 hours, crossing three countries. So yea– they have no idea of the sheer size of America.
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We left Eugene, Oregon at 6 AM. Took Hwy 126 to Bend, Hwy 20 to Ontario, Oregon (short part of the triangle, 842 total, VS I-5 to I-84, 924 total, to Ontario, average speed the same) then freeway I-20/26/84 to I-25 into Wyoming and West Yellowstone, 2 PM. The. Next. Day. Besides gas and rest area breaks (restroom), 4 hour rest area sleep (we had the bed with us, RV), and an hour breakfast the next morning. That is 14 hours driving, average 65 MPH. Can drive it slightly faster in a non-RV setup (with fewer gas breaks but not fewer bathroom breaks, stupid bladder) and no over night stops, if only because we have two drivers (I don’t drive the RV).
According to Google Maps it is 45 hours, 2975 miles from Pacific Oregon Coast to Atlantic Ocean New York. How far is that in Europe? How many countries?
Note. People don’t realize how far East the Pacific Coastline is as one travels south to LA and Mexico. LA to NY? Is 2724 miles!
I think you’d be out of Europe and traveling to Russia 😀 Just a guess.
New York is farther from San Francisco than Moscow is from Lisbon, Spain.
“I think people in flyover country have no real concept of how insane the real estate market is in the West Coast cities.”
Oh, we do. We also have a real concept of how much is self-inflicted by West Coast attitudes.
Went to San Diego when I worked for SAIC in 1993. 2-bedroom starter home in what my co-workers admitted wasn’t the “best neighborhood.”: $102k.
And that was before they imported illegals by the gross.
Ridiculously high imho and Nevada picked up CA prices with less work options.
Oregon, particularly Portland, Bend, Sisters, and somewhat Eugene, has suffered from the “sell in CA and buy in …” housing prices. Redmond and other areas surrounding Bend are suffering too. La Pine prices? Really?
In-laws didn’t benefit they left San Diego too soon. Their property on Zillow is listed any where from 100 to 200x what they sold in early ’70s. The also missed out on the huge jump for Bend area. Their home in the La Pine State Park area, which could not be built now at it’s location, is listed for over 5x (on Zillow) what they sold it for in ’86.
I actually meant mostly internal immigration. Metro Seattle has grown incredibly over the last 25 years, and is set in a fairly narrow coastal plain. People already commute from 60+ miles away, and they’re not making any more real estate. That said, there’s absolutely a bubble effect induced by unnaturally low interest rates. Even with the beginnings of the pandemic exodus*, the market here is still super hot with multiple offers on any property.
(* WA has gone from the #5 U-Haul state destination to #39)
I remember back in the earlier eighties a very good pizzeria a short walk from our house turned out to have been owned by a family who sold their California home, moved to NC and invested the proceeds from that home sale in a new, larger home and the restaurant.
California real estate was also in the news back in the late Seventies, when passage of Proposition 13 presaged Reagan’s election.
For the young’ns around here, Prop 13 limited the state’s assessment of higher property taxes based on reappraisal of market values of residences, forcing folks to sell their homes because they couldn’t afford the taxes — only to pay a considerable portion of the proceeds to the state.
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You left a red light outside the female officer’s quarters??? hahahahaha
It’s not my fault, your 7th lot got me slightly inebriated and encouraged me (and I didn’t need it, restraining occasionally, moderating consistently, encouragement never).
A truly terrifying ordeal, drawn up on parade and then advised to leave poste haste before said ladies got their hands on me. Who knew that had such a grasp of invective, or would really have done ‘that’ to an innocent led astray? (I still flinch when I hear ladies heels approaching)
oh yea– the female officers are tough… I think if it ended up at the enlisted female barracks there would have been laughter as you found yourself hanging from some random lightpole. 😀
I know elections are jacked. I’ve been screaming it since at least 2012. (Before that I had not seen it with my own eyes.)
But they have the power and a significant enough portion of the military.
And normal human beings refuse to believe this level of evil.
And the more time passes, the more they destroy us.
As for Great Britain — Jaysus, the snow job — I like British Mysteries but I can no longer watch them for various reasons, including propaganda.
One of the things I did not at first notice, but which started intruding more and more? EVERY couple in these things is inter-racial. I finally asked friends from Great Britain and they said “No, not really.”
So, propaganda. (AND note, I don’t care about race. I truly don’t. But I despite the race propaganda, too.)
AND THEN there’s them now making historical movies with British noblemen being black, and the howling harpies of tolerance telling me it’s accurate. “There were always black people in Great Britain.”
Well, yes, in a small number, but not NOBLEMEN. And really not that many. I can read nineteenth century works in which PORTUGUESE — hi. Born and raised in Portugal. Name is citizenship plus marriage, because Americans can’t pronounce my first name as the Portuguese do. And I hated the name anyway — as blackamoors. Which tells you where the color bar was.
Ian
No, been lurking long time. It just seemed to bear repeating yet again, as demoralising as the constant pretence is. And … to point out that (and I really have a lot of friends that I’ve checked with in all the least salubrious areas of the globe) we are kind of (yes I know, again) counting on you. Whither you go, and all that.
Sarah
It’s embarrassing, my current (lockdown) base (retired/medical discharge again, recalled twice so far) is a small northern city pop. 100,000. There are literally, I checked, eleven black people here (one who is the mayor, go figure. Resident for two years, I kid you not. She stood unopposed as ‘they’ didn’t want us to be rasis). Lots of Polish and Portuguese (not your best I’m afraid, those recruited to work, who come, work six months then demand benefits and housing and … retire). We have tiny little ‘ghettos’ of foreign territory, self isolating but according to TV and films we’re a majority ethnic country. That’s representative of most of the country, barring certain areas in certain cities (except London which is effectively a minority British, let alone minority white area).
OK, in London (where most of the TV is made) there are a lot more but interracial couples are ‘scarce’ because … the blacks atta… I mean discourage any such (the ladies are worst – competition?). Quite a few biracial children though (go figure) to those type of woman who view ‘gangsta’ as fashionable (yes even when the male in question is an accountant).
I simply can’t watch any new films or TV (ours or yours) the obligatory 90lb women prodding butt and the completely irrelevant and probably impossible wise, super-intelligent, just so much better than anyone with less melanin, character just ruin it for me. Once you’ve seen it, you can’t not see it. (Just once I’d like a not an imbecile, married, white male character who wasn’t corrupt and/or incompetent and who isn’t ‘saved’ from something by his smarter wife, teenage daughter or ethnic friend/neighbour/superior/passer-by. is it really asking that much?)
The thing is, as someone who’s spent way more time working for/with Americans, we’re just like you (with better accents, better beer, and unfortunately less rights and not coincidentally guns). You could exchange the average rural/flyover person and if they didn’t speak you’d hardly notice. I’d have retired there if the O’s minions hadn’t refused me (I’m white, hetero, Christian and ex-military so a definite no no according to them – although my unit E and record ‘may’ have had some further effect too).
Portuguese as blackamoors, yes, but that just showed how tribal we all are. Portuguese as allies, the best (surprisingly even now). You have to remember those writing blackamoors would have described my ancestors, white mixed Irish/Scots/English and Welsh working class, in equally flowery terms (perhaps more so). Your ancestor was unknown, exotic and may be rich, mine was a known quantity of scum.
I guess, as I said above, my only real intent was to make clear that the rest of us dmn furriners actually don’t just care, and support, the US (despite our globalist elitists bad-mouthing you, but less so than your own of course) but that we recognise this will affect all of us (nobody, not even the Chinese people want the American hegemony replaced with a Chinese one). A bit of, biased self-preservation inclined I admit, moral support if you will.
Oh, yeah, the Portuguese you get are MOSTLY gypsies. Seriously.
And some dead beats. But mostly gypsies. On account of most Portuguese aren’t reproducing. PERIOD. I’m fertile fanny for my generation, wtih 2 kids.
Yeah, but I wasn’t talking about run of the mill foreigners.
I’m talking about “international elites” (who aren’t.)
And now I long for a proper Yorkshire Porter. (Hambleton Ale’s ‘Nightmare’ was a revelation… once I finally let it come up to the correct [still cool, just not frigid] temperature, some time ago.)
There were always black people in Great Britain
Grr. Arrgh. Twitch. I know Mary Beard is a respected historian, but her public pronouncement that there have always been black people in Great Britain so can your racism, prole, was based on the “argument”:
1. Even though the empire never encompassed areas where Nilotic or sub-Saharan “blacks” lived, we know some of them immigrated and lived in Roman territory.
2. The Roman legions recruited from everywhere
3. The Romans moved legions around
4. Therefore, some black immigrants could have been recruited into the legions and transferred to Britannia (but hard numbers are beside the point and don’t ask, prole)
So does maybe a couple thousand black soldiers in the whole province over 300 years count as “always been there”? And if they married locally, how much of an imprint did they leave, or did they just genetically vanish? (Maybe, none, and yes.)
Yes, Racism Is Bad, Mmkay, but it bugs the hell out of me to see historians rewrite history to “prove” a point that doesn’t matter except as a stick to beat your enemies with.
Preach it, brother!
Now that I think about it, a couple hundred over 300 years is probably more correct, and even that is probably an overestimate. Pretty sure that after the 3rd Century Crisis most legions recruited and replaced locally as the Roman army transformed from a general-purpose military to a border garrison force with a small dedicated striking arm. So the overwhelming majority of legionaries in Britain after 250 CE would have been … British.
It’s akin to the Africans brought back by the Portuguese from Senegal and Ivory Coast during their first explorations (whether voluntary or involuntary). They assimilated and intermarried and disappeared like a drop of grape juice into a five gallon bucket of clear water.
Yep. I keep telling people there were no black people in Portugal when I was little. I get called names. BUT seriously. The only rarer thing were light blonds.
There were lots of Irish and Scottish and Saxon slaves sent to Africa and Arabia, during medieval times. (Norse slaver network, and then the Irish slaver network, which the Norman English actually did stop. But apparently we don’t talk about that.)
If the pendulum ever swings back that’ll be very bad for ethnic minorities in Britain.
By the time we’re dead, or if not, not long after, we’ll find out there never were white people in Britain until the reign of Elizabeth when they emigrated and enslaved all the natives.
Not kidding.
And there’ll be a whole new royal geneology, showing how there have never been any female monarchs of Britain because of $PATRIARCHY, and a competing geneology claiming all the “male” monarchs were females passing as male, because of $GRRL_PWR.
“Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present, controls the past. . . . The mutability of the past is the central tenet of Ingsoc. Past events, it is argued, have no objective existence, but survive only in written records and in human memories. The past is whatever the records and the memories agree upon. And since the Party is in full control of all records, and in equally full control of the minds of its members, it follows that the past is whatever the Party chooses to make it.”
I actually want to see the “no white people in Britain historically” just to see how they explain where white people come from, because they’ll have already been abolished from French and German history by that point.
I thought they had settle on white people are evil aliens for that explanation.
And won’t THAT make explaining the events of the 1930’s and 1940’s interesting?
Then, Reality is Seriously Weird and that Nazi’s allied, even with plans to backstab, with… Japan has long been a “Say what?” kind of thing. Yeah, same malicious ambitions. Still… huh?
Genetic mutations caused by chemicals that remove empathy and melanin which is true super gene. Ya know, like the DOJ Civil rights head believes.
A lot of it comes from the spewings of Elijah Muhammad the founder of the Nation of Islam (he of “the white man is the devil” credo) and his assertion that white people were created by the devil. That is the foundation of Nation of Islam ideology. Critical Race Theory and the other related nonsense is simply that ideology with Marxism stirred in and gussied up in academia-speak. It’s why the rhetoric from the left is increasingly eliminationist and reminiscent of 1930s and 1940s Germany; because CRT literally IS an ideology of racial superiority, its just the reverse of the one the KKK has.
wow wow… made me laugh… So Queen Elizabeth Ist was in drag
Well, that’s how the last episode of Blackadder 2 had it…
And yes, Blackadder is satire… but funny none-the-less
I’ve already seen somewhere (and ran away screaming) some serious scholarly paper that pasted a fanciful black lineage into the British royal pedigrees. And meant it as factual: British royalty have always been black.
Well, a lot of Spanish royalty included some Moorish ancestry. But it was “the Moors married/enslaved a bunch of blonde and redheaded Visigothic ladies for their harems, and then their kids did the same thing, and eventually Granadan Moors were a bunch of redheads and blondes.” There were Moors who looked like Moors out in the countryside, sometimes, but a lot of them went back to Africa when Ferdinand and Isabella took over. There was a lot of obsession in Spanish royalty and nobility with proving “pure blood,” but it is not convincing.
Gosh, and here I thought the “one-drop” rule was a terrible legacy of our racist past. /dry
Yeah. Only I expect this shit gets turned around hard, if we’re to survive.
It was the Sixth Century Saxon Invasion that rendered Britain “White.” King Arthur was, of course, Black and gave his life trying to stop the Saxons, but was betrayed by his bastard son, Mordred. Really, it is the basis for the Black Panther mythos, slightly modified to eliminate Arthur/T’Challa’s knocking up his (half) sister.
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*Chokes*
Amadán!
The latest edition of Chivalry & Sorcery, the RPG so into being authentic in its medieval nature that it included quotes for 14th century rules for jousting to explain just what the rules and scoring were, includes this gem:
Brittannia Game Designs and the designers of C&S 5th Edition celebrate diversity among gamers and in our games. In this edition of the classic medieval fantasy game we have drawn on modern research to present the Middle Ages as they really were; diverse and rich in cultural influences and visitors from outside of Europe. If this does not reflect your vision of the Middle Ages, this is not the game for you.
Had that put that in the Kickstarter, I probably would not have bought it. “Modern research” too often means “exaggerations, distortions, and outright lies to make the past conform to progressive narratives.”
Well, they were diverse and full of outside cultural influences. But that’s more like “the bones of the saint are wrapped in fine Islamic cloth brought home from the Crusades as war booty or a good buy.”
St. Columbanus and his monks were befriended by a Syrian Christian merchant woman in the city of Orleans, when King Theuderich was expelling him from Frankish Gaul and nobody would sell them food, as if they were outlaws. She invited them to her house and gave them food for the journey, and St. Columbanus prayed and her blind Syrian husband’s sight was restored.
But I know that’s not what people mean by “diverse” or “outside cultural influences.”
I read somewhere that Colorado has been jacked from about that time.. or maybe 2010?
2012 I think, but my memory for years isn’t what it used to be.
Mine isn’t either 😀
Oh heck, for years my memory hasn’t been what it used to be, either.
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“And normal human beings refuse to believe this level of evil.”
This is how garden-variety cluster Bs – sociopaths, narcissists, the works – get away with doing so much damage. Unless you’ve dealt with evil face to face, over a long enough time or stark enough incident you can’t deny your own eyes, most people choose to believe they’ve… misunderstood what happened. Because surely it couldn’t have been that bad, you must be exaggerating, no one could do such a thing.
Believing evil is out there would mean they’d have to live with the fear that others are evil – or worse, that they themselves might be evil. Normal people will do anything to avoid that.
In a freshman English class: “But don’t you believe most people are inherently good?”
me: “No, I believe most people are inherently evil, and the ones that haven’t done something truly heinous haven’t had the right opportunity yet.”
These days I’d say most people are inherently lazy about checking who’s evil. Which may be worse.
Weird how Pelagianism keeps cropping up. Pelagius was an Irish monk who taught that people were, essentially, good and Christ had not so much come to redeem Mankind as to provide the model of how humans should behave. St Augustine had serious issues with Pelagianism, which boiled down to, “If all men are inherently good and only need to try hard enough to achieve salvation, why did I have to have Divine intervention?” Basically, the doctrine of original sin was part of Augustine’s response to Pelagius.
Life makes more sense if you go with original sin.
Indeed. Or even just the evolutionary, “Look, we evolved from apes, and primates are not inherently nice. Get used to it.”
I don’t believe we’re essentially good. I don’t believe all men are evil either. In a functional society, we become better as we grow up.
Original sin was evolving before that, arising because people wanted explanations of why they baptized infants under the age of reason.
Eh, good and evil are not on par. It’s like a ladder. It’s not a good ladder if half the rungs are good. Indeed, a very long ladder with three rungs missing may be a completely bad ladder.
“And normal human beings refuse to believe this level of evil.”
That’s where many of my relatives are. Far too many of them voted for Biden. Mom, thankfully, is not deceived but she thinks only a “Behold his mighty hand” event is going to get us out of this fix.
I don’t see much happiness on the other side. I see a fair amount of posturing, and a lot of “now we can punish those awful people,” but not much happiness.
The woman on Twitter who posted an ironic bit about waking up happy because she realized we were now living in a racism-free country now that Biden is in got 10000 likes and had to tell people it was a joke. There’s no humor or sense of sarcasm over there.
One, I don’t accept the results of this election. The problem is, I’m retired military and the default mindset is to shoot the enemy becasue that’s the most efficient means of removal. Lawfare won’t work since the Supreme Court proved that was a useless avenue for correction. Might be able to correct via local and state legislation; but if NH is the only state to get fixed, 2 electoral votes won’t mean much.
As for Biden supporters in town, fewer Registered Dems voted blue, and more registered GOP voted red for Trump, but the number of registered Dems is higher that Republicans, and the votes turned that way too. And the ballots were hand counted to check totals, so no fraud at that point. We’re there fraudulent mail ins? Probably. But the numbers weren’t there either.
I wonder if a Dem who voted Red was switched in the machine because obviously if a registered Dem voted Red than it was a mistake… obviously. (/sarc)
Nah. People were switched wholesale.
I knew REPs were switched. But yea… it looks like it was not a “delicate” operation, but blunt force.
The issue is there needs to be a definitive event, such as the Massacre or Lexington/Concord, to allow the 4th to be opened. Until that point, and Ashli Babbit, while a a martyr, is only one woman. It needs to be a large gathering, by official hands, not the Antifa goons, as those happen consistently and naught happens.
Well, this is how they did it in NH in 2016. It wasn’t fixed.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-hampshire-presiden/
Excellent summary. Most regular people are on the hamster wheel of 9-5 or some other time on the clock variant trying to get by to pay bills, keep food on the table, lights and water on, pay insurance that is required, pay taxes that are required, pay back student loans if they were taken out(except these are on hold for right now), raise kids as best they can. Or the other variation, those who are sweating it worse with part time work or minimum wage or struggling to get by because of loss of job from the current plague and housing insecurity. In any case not everybody has the time or energy or money to be able to be like DJT and fight the machine that just wants us to be chewed up in the cogs and replaced as soon as we become defective. Plus there is no desire to associate with tptb because of the hostility toward outsiders and the derision and dragging up of every mistake made in life or association by tptb against any new potential person trying to get into office. So in idea it is good but practicality unfortunately it is not. But we have to prioritize and hope for the best.
As you say, “Now, what do we do?” This is like a dystopian novel. Come back in a thousand years to an ordered of cloistered monks who are trying to reconstruct why an entire civilization collapsed? Hope for a huge armageddon like disaster – pick one or two to change the course of history such as that island in the carnaries sliding into the Atlantic and causing a tidal wave that scouries the Eastern seaboard along with a giant eruption tsunami on the West coast, astroid strike, etc. Pray for divine intervention? Beat feet to somewhere where the light of freedom continues?
THERE IS NOWHERE ELSE.
Thanks to the retreat to Low Earth Orbit for four decades after the lunar landings. Blame it on Nixon, blame it on Proxmire, blame it on the beancounters, the key thing is that we could’ve had cities on the Moon, bases on Mars, a thriving asteroid mining operation by now, instead of Elon Musk just barely starting on the spacecraft and boosters that could take us there. And he’ll be shut down (and quite possibly executed after a show trial) if we lose, because “There is no Planet B” is a core tenet of the other side.
Nixon and Proxmire have a LOT to answer for. And that’s withOUT invoking Watergate.
The politicos are just the symptom of the penetration of “why waste money on $FOO when there are poor people I can
exploit for voteshelp with that money.”scammindset by 1970.That and the fact the whole program was just about the Cold War. If the Soviets had beat us to the Moon, we’d have gone to Mars by 1980.
For the more immediate future and us specifically…knuckle down, and survive. Don’t despair, and don’t believe their lies.
The unaccounted for wildcard in this scenario is Putin and Russia.
The cold warrior in Putin certainly wants to see the US fail; the pragmatist in Putin can’t allow that, because if we fail it’s just a matter of time until Xinnie the Pooh starts thinking about all those wonderful natural resources just sitting in that sparsely populated region north of the Amur River.
Vlad needs an at least semi-functional US to balance out China, especially if he wants to continue rebuilding Stalin’s Soviet Empire.
Forgetting to check the little box is the first sign of senility…
The cold warrior in Putin is helping us.
They had free speech used against them, destroying their system. They think that using it against us will destroy us. It destroys the woke, but they aren’t us.
There’s a rumor this morning that Russia is on the move in Syria.
True or not… the Potted Plant’s pick for Sec of State, while otherwise tolerably sane (at least per his hearing, which I watched) and obviously no dummy, historically has expressed a desire to turn Syria into a smoking crater.
It occurs to me that wars can be re-ignited by rumors, and that this one doesn’t seem to be substantiated by any official sources.
And as you say, China has been eyeing Russia’s resources for a long time. And Putin has been dealing with his own Swamp.
Obama had a bee in his bonnet about removing Assad. It was never exactly clear *why* he wanted to do so. But it was something he kept pivoting back to.
Assad’s family had not been properly welcoming to the Muslim Brotherhood. Which (via certain donations) seems to have been the driving force behind all of the StateDept-and-Hillary ‘encouragement’ of the Arab Spring and similar debacles.
Hell, I was in favor of removing Assad early on. I kinda thought he should have been removed in 2003 same time we did Saddam Hussein*. Right up until it became clear that the relatively-sane Color Revolution backers couldn’t find their ass with both hands and the ISIS types took over. Assad in power but kept in a box is better than those wackos.
(* Joke quoted in the media at the time: “Q. How long would it take the US Army to beat the Syrian army? A. Six weeks. One week to do it, and five weeks to stop laughing.” Taking Syria out in 2003 would have removed all the sanctuaries and ratlines into Iraq that gave us such trouble. Jordan and Turkey wouldn’t have been interested in taking up the slack.)
Yeah, taking Syria out early in the game likely would have been something I likely would have welcomed. We were naive enough back then to think that nation building was something that we could do in that part of the world. By the time Obama was in office, though, we knew better. And our failure to properly secure Iraq led to the vacuum that allowed ISIS to rise. Obama, though, kept pivoting back to the idea of deposing Assad, even while we were fighting ISIS in Syria.
I’ll be honest, I should have known better looking at aftermath of vietnam. Doesn’t matter how good the victory they will pull defeat from it and dump people we promised to help.
It was frustration at the failure of the Arab Spring. They were all ready to gloat that their soft power was more effective that Bush’s idiotic military blundering and then Hillary flushed strategic ambiguity right out the airlock and made it clear that we wouldn’t intervene to get rid of Assad, which allowed him to consolidate power and kick off the civil war.
It’s also part of the reason why later on Hillary over corrected and helped take out Qaddafi.
Hillary is not a smart person.
None of them are. They were promoted on ideology not merit.
Here we go again…
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/middle-east/1611293792-us-military-convoy-enters-northeast-syria-report
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A large US military convoy entered northeastern Syria on Thursday, Syrian state news agency SANA reports, citing sources on the ground.
According to the report, the convoy included some 40 trucks and armored vehicles and was backed from the air by helicopters.
It entered Syria from Iraq via the al-Waleed crossing to bring arms and logistical equipment to the bases in Hasakeh and Deir Ezzor provinces.
Other local media report that such maneuvers are not unusual as the US often moves transfers equipment between Iraq and Syria.
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Maybe not unusual, but awfully coincidental.
I bet you Putin is behind it.
The sop we throw him is forbidding fracking and stopping the pipeline
and that lines Buffet’s pockets, as well
I’ll be surprised if FICUS and the Ho can stop fraking more than two years. Some of their patrons can’t afford it to stop.
We need to stop referring to Harris as “Ho”, it’s insulting to both Ho Chi Minh and sexworkers.
And gardening implements. Won’t someone think of the poor gardening implements? They already have a dirty job…
When the term is not being used metaphorically, the more ethical members of a profession just have to bear that not everyone lives up to their standards.
How about the Red Queen?
Apparently she hates being called Camel….
I would have thought the loudest objectors would be actual camels, both the single- and the double-humpers.
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well, yes. She’s a multiple humper.
At least we know she’s not a mouth breather.
(May G-d forgive me.)
We would have to buy more oil from Russia..
Democrats who are now claiming that Trump was doing Putin’s bidding by “inciting insurrection” (Pelosi stated this earlier this week), are not only enacting policies that help Russia via the fracking ban, but Harris/Biden have stated that they intend to extend the nuclear arms treaty with Russia that Trump wanted to end for another five years. Thus Democrats are rewarding the very country they have spent over the last four years was “Trump’s puppet master”.
As usual, Democrats were projecting.
as usual
I think it’s worse than that. I think they’ve never been serious about opposing Russia and Putin knows it. They picked Russia as the “evil country that controls the Bad Orange Man,” because they figured the ignorant redneck rubes in flyover country are paranoid about the Russians and would automatically reject Trump if the “Resistance,” could get the idea to stick.
Exactly this.
Yep. You could get whiplash from all the “we’ve always been at war with…whoever”. I’m pretty sure that a requirement for being one of the Dem’s useful idiots is a bad memory for what they were saying six months ago. Hell, last week.
They dearly love gaslighting as a tactic.
It is the same game they play with the Constitution when they want Republicans to fall into line, or the way they quote The Bible when attempting to browbeat Christians into not opposing their agenda.
I’d denounce them as cynics but they give cynicism a bad name.
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I thought they were appeasing the environmentalists with stopping fracking and the pipeline.
The enviros want it stopped (they want anything that can provide inexpensive power to the masses stopped). But there’s also been some foreign meddling where fracking is involved. For example, the anti-fracking “documentary” released a while back that had Matt Damon involved turned out to be financed at least in part with Saudi money.
Russia has been heavily involved in financing the anti-fracking groups; but because it is helping leftist causes, the Democrats have no problem with it.
Who do you think has been funding the environmentalists? For decades.
Never underestimate the Left’s willingness to appease multiple entities with a single act.
Never underestimate the environmentalists’ appetite for appeasement.
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Not to be too obnoxious about disagreement, but I think you may be overthinking this. As nearly as I can discern the intentions of those who practice Orwellian doublethink by watching what they do more than what they say, I think the intention is to create a permanent domestic underclass of housekeepers, janitors, gardeners, and other proles, even if they have to import them from abroad. This underclass has to be lulled into security and submission, given a sufficient dole to keep them alive but not allowed to accumulate or invest, kept ignorant and uneducated, and innocent of dangerous notions such as freedom of thought or speech, and trained to believe that American ideals of “liberty and justice for all” were always myths designed to oppress the underclass.
Yes, I mean that Orwellian doublethink is real and prevalent among leftists. It enables people to believe six mutually contradictory things before breakfast, and switch off to whatever set of claims is most convenient. The side effect is that its practitioners lose the ability to discern truth from lies or reality from fantasy. (For instance, I saw an article that claims that evicting Trump was a permanent victory over climate change deniers. ???)
Overthinking is quite possible.
This is a bunch of knotty intelligence problems.
Excessive ntuple thinking is a normal hazard of the business.
Frankly, groups of people cannot share a single plan, because of telephone and personal differences in understanding. So, the opposition has a lot of plans. But, those plans will all tend to have features informed by the belief that simple models dictate reality.
Time spent figuring out their plans is still useful. But it is at least as critical that we do not lose hope, and do not stop being alert to opportunities to screw up their plans with nonlinear behavior that they do not forecast.
I haven’t lost hope. Their moral blindness means that they will fall into the ditch and get hit by obstacles…and ruin…they don’t see coming, and I’m not omitting the possibility that Providence will provide means we cannot yet see. There are too many people who better and stronger than Winston Smith for Orwell’s dystopia to come true here, and too many people wiser than Huxley’s Stranger for his to come true, either. While I do see people bemoaning the death of the Republic and claiming that the current crop of incoming administration officials and new majorities with their bold plans to defeat Trumpism forever and secure permanent advantage and extend lockdown theatre indefinitely means the death of liberty in the country, my own opinion is “It ain’t dead yet. It might be in critical condition, but it ain’t dead.”
Perhaps I’ve read too many stories where the forces of life and liberty were on the verge of destruction, with defeats, failures, and betrayals but prevailed in the end. I’ve also read stories where they were defeated, but the seeds of new life were sown. I don’t believe in a grimdark ending to the American founder’s dream of liberty. I have not forgotten nor forsaken the pledge of allegiance that I recited every schoolday for eight years when I was a boy, and I pay special attention to the last phrase. There may be little I can do about the plight of the country except write things few people are likely to read, but what little I can do I will.
The problem that doomism ignores is “what was America before it was founded?”.
If it is so impossible to build freedom out of tyranny then America could never have existed in the first place.
Doomer view has some valid points, but the center of gravity of this conflict is in a) how completely fucked in the head the left is b) getting our own heads unfucked enough to beat the left.
Half of my family came to what is now the U.S. after getting entirely sick of one, two, maybe more homelands. We now appear to be out of homelands until Musk gets his act together. Also, my family has the distinction of having an ancestor who was the only person in his township to be singled out to NOT be pardoned for participating in the Whiskey Rebellion. So I have absolutely no problem with doing what’s right even if it’s not technically “legal.” The law is there to ensure peace and prosperity, and when it’s used to serve some other purpose, it is immoral.
I am surely not the only one.
An interesting comment seen on youtube:
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Still not sure why WE patriotic citizens of America are not organizing to take this country back. Batman isn’t going to do it for us. What are we waiting for? It’s in our Constitution to organize militia and overthrow a tyrannical government. We are not breaking any laws by doing so, we are not conspiring to commit acts of treason, we are only defending what made this country what it is today. By doing nothing, we are spitting on the graves of our anscestors, who fought and died for everything we have today. Everything.
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It’s not impossible. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a right bitch of a job to do.
True. The major difference I see between then and now is that many Americans have forgotten or lost faith in the Biblical roots of the thinking of the founders, On the other hand, the Revolution occurred when the British attempted to impose stricter controls on a population that had become accustomed to comparative neglect from a king and Parliament that were far away,,,and the current political leadership is attempting a similar dangerous overreach by threatening liberties we have taken for granted.
And bunker hiding in DC blinds them to the information they need to reliably pull things off.
That’s not even the biggest thing that blinds them. Even if they had the information, they lack the wisdom.
The result of a long period of building the basis for belief in individual rights.
Even the Magna Carta, which was not everything it was made out to be sometime although it also wasn’t just “the King can’t stop the Barons from screwing over who they want to screw over” (as I heard it characterized once) was only a step in a long tradition. I’m still trying to tease out how much of the Anglo-Saxon nobility remained as low level land lords under the Norman family (William I, William II, Henry I, and Stephen) because a lot of their goals seem to come from a more English background (perhaps parallels from their Norse heritage).
Either way, the common law whose standardization began under Henry II was very English and would shine through over the centuries.
That is the problem. When American became America it not only had the traditions of rule dating back to the Glorious Revolution, but to the English Civil War and beyond arguably to Alfred’s initial rollback of the Norse. Even the Danelaw looked forward towards the ideas of America’s founding more than anything on the continent did. Despite happening in the same era, there are reasons the French Revolution, dedicated to equality, liberty, and brotherhood ended in blood and tyranny. As much as I’d like to blame Rousseau and other idiot thinkers who still wield influence on the Left, it was less them alone than the tradition that lead to them.
When the Left destroys all history and memory from Alfred on and what ekes through is raciss, sexiss, homophobiss, etc we’re back to 700 in philosophical terms on a trip to 1776.
That’s a lot of darkness.
If we assume Hitler had infinite power we are speaking German as well.
Why not keep it to plausibles?
The fundamental difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution and others, is that the British colonists fought for independence because they were fighting for the rights they were supposed to have by virtue of being British but were denied to them. If the British Parliament (and it was Parliament much more than King George III, but the Declaration would not have had the impact it had by denouncing the tyranny of Parliament rather than the King) had simply afforded the colonists the same rights that British living in Britain had, chances are the American Revolution does not happen.
Very true, but there was nearly of millennium of history behind their belief they had those rights, with a high intensity since about 1620.
The French, having no long tradition about the rights they were demanding nor experience in exercising them, took a very different course.
It’s a great example of the journey being more important than the destination.
Eh, Parliament gave up on fighting us, and the king drew up an instrument of abdication to try to pressure them out of it. It was only when his ministers broke it to him that they would not CARE, they would just crown his son and make peace, that he managed to give up.
Tbh, England had been reforming for centuries and really wasn’t too bad for the era. Was more a case of Americans wanting to be equal to those in isles rather than a colony.
That’s about all I can do too. It’s something. I imagine us minor bloggers as a community of groundhogs, popping our little heads above ground just enough to thumb our noses at Them*, then disappearing before they can react. The larger the community, the crazier we can make Them*.
For a refresher on Orwellian doublethink: (in case it is needed)
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself — that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.”
Although in many cases, there’s a simpler explanation. I recently had a couple of bruising encounters with artices from a leftist POV, and one of my thoughts was “You really are stunningly ignorant of how the other side, thinks, aren’t you?” It’s rather like the mind-readers I have all too frequently encountered (since I am an *odd*) who inform me of what I am *really* thinking…and then proceed to elaborate a fantasy that “explains” my misconduct. but has nothing to do with what I was actually thinking. Once they have this explanation firmly in mind, anything I say about what I was really thinking is either *blah, blah, blah* or self-serving BS. It’s dangerous to fall in love with your own pet theories.
ALMOST every time I fail to fall into line. Jeffrey Landis recently on facebook “argued” with me. Only arguing with me involved reading my mind. Let’s say he shouldn’t quit physics.
The “Argument from false absurdity” fallacy. “The idea that you actually believe the arguments you put forward for your position is obviously absurd. Therefore you must hold your position for other, evil reasons that you don’t want to admit to.”
Yep. They’re all bloody mind readers. BAD ones.
They are. This is Science. It has been shown in the lab that libertarians and conservatives understand each other and leftists, but leftists don’t understand either of them.
“… but leftists don’t understand either of them.”
I perceive very little to be gained by determining what leftists don’t (and won’t) understand. For one thing, we’d need a bigger blog.
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If you have an investment in the long term future (ie, children) you prepare to preserve as much as you can: books on acid free paper, teaching and inculcating the need to teach, what machine tools that can be made out of corrosion resistant metals made (some cannot to my knowledge, but those are advanced anyway), troves of raw materials mapped out (and be creative, one day a car graveyard will be an iron mine), and so on.
Because in the long term we all lose, although it will be the children of those billionaires who can’t understand why they lack the riches of their grandfathers who lose on their level. Us and all our descendants lose on ours.
Because they are creating a neo-feudal culture and, decades of space opera not withstanding, feudal cultures cannot sustain an industrial, much less a technological, society.
Why? Because the social systems need to be flexible enough to make it possible to get the right talents and interest to the right place to keep it running. Not to keep it growing and improving, but just to keep it running.
They reject that mobility. Looking at their trajectory, their goal is a society that makes the worse periods of Tsarist Russia look like a libertarian fantasy in terms of social mobility. As such, it won’t take two generations before the internet becomes dial-up again and two more before computers become women with math degrees who aren’t married yet again.
Or, to sum it up:
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as “bad luck.”
One of the genius items of the English speaking people was a system which from Alfred on (and even under the early Plantagenet, although maybe not the actual Normans) until the post-war WW2 period and then stable for two generations after tried to promote into higher social status members of that extremely small minority in exchange for some degree of “behaving”.
That is, it was the one strand of culture in history that made a sustained, multi-generational effort in carving out room for odds.
I think our generation was the last where that was even partially true. The millennials were promoted on behaving alone, which not only makes no room for odds, but works to exclude the most useful ones (which currently celebrating the useless “look at me type” to cover up the conformity).
If you don’t have such an investment in the future, you get to choose (well, you get to choose if you do as well, but you’re the one who made the investment) if you want to work or enjoy the decline. I still maintain encouraging most westerners to not invest in the future (which succeeded beyond their wildest dreams outside the US and is finally doing so in the US) was their smartest move. Not only does it make what you’re describing easier by the numbers, it creates a huge swath of people who are at best half interested in fighting it, because in the long run they have no dog in the fight.
one day a car graveyard will be an iron mine
I recall reading a weird bit (TV Guide? Oooold deserving Hugo/nebula short?) about those hailing “Johnny Litterbug” as they went searching for those glorious pieces of petrochemical-derived plastics that weren’t utterly inaccessible. Silly story, but I recall that much, all these decades later.
I believe it was in Asimov’s S/F/ Magazine, referred to plastics as “dragon’s blood” Probably between 1990 and 93ish.
If it was in that magazine, that is the timeframe in which I had (optimistically) subscribed to such things for a while. I think we can eliminate 1990. It had to be late 1991 or 1992-3. I think I subscribed to all the readily available (read: cheap) SF mags of ‘Reader’s Digest’ size for a while. A very short while. Generally, I do not recall much other than the short-form bit ‘Probability Zero’ in one of them was often more amusing than ALL of the rest… of ALL of them. And I recall two of those. Recall as in, I can tell you the key bits – NOT as in “can name the title and author and tell you names of characters.”
[One thing I would tell Younger Self, if I could: “That stuff about keeping a ‘journal’ or diary is mostly crap. *BUT*.. keep a log of interesting books and articles you read. No stupid ‘book report’ nonsense, just Author, Title, Subject, and a *brief* Summary. Even the crap, really… it *WILL* come in handy.”]
I don’t know what we do exactly, just yet. However, we will figure it out and we will win. Our descendants will be talking about us for a long time of how took on tyranny, took on the World! Think of the books, the movies,and the legends that will come out of all of it. After all, who else could pull off something like this but Real Americans!
“I just wanted to play video games…”
The sad thing is, with MSFS2020 finally getting VR support, I really wanted to do a VFR circumnavigation of the globe, and possibly live stream it.
Depending on how things go, I probably won’t be able to do that, even though that’s what I’d rather be doing.
That the thing about turning everything into a zero sum game: it create opponents who would have been perfectly happy to let you win your thing, if it hadn’t involved destroying their thing. It didn’t have to be that way.
When you make the personal political, suddenly everyone else’s personal is going to get in your political.
Sadly, after a certain point, you can’t ignore other people making the personal political, because their politics gets into your personal.
Of course, those who will pay the most are those who personal was appropriated to do it: genuine trans people (not the look at me crowd, but people like my friends T and S) and gay people. Regimes that require conformity to survive cannot accept public homosexuality or even much garden variety gender variation much less gender f**kery.
I may live to see the gay leftists who told me the US was more dangerous to gays (an opinion based on the “religious rights”) than Iran (nope, be told that to my face) be proven correct…by their supposedly allies.
Maybe they’ll live long enough to tell if the knife hurts more in the back.
They’ll figure it out eventually. But it’ll be too late by then.
It always is.
I want to believe.
BUT HOW? They’re moving very fast and by the nature of the invasion have OUR military on their side.
I’m very afraid our epitaph will be “the individualists failed to organize.”
And how is the situation any different from your previous predictions? The ones where we win?
Also HAVE YOU SEEN what is going on with the military in DC? They continue to have the officers, at most.
Can’t gut the NCO Corps fast without gutting service capabilities.
Same reason I concluded that killing the foreign populations of the world would require building a new service from scratch. Even then, you would need to make the other services less capable to prevent them from stopping the new service.
So things are not as simple as Obama believed.
At worst, the military is neutralized, and we will have a lot of rebuilding to do before we can take the fight to China. Which is hugely demoralizing for me, personally, but the civil war isn’t lost.
The problem Sarah and I share is a little complicated.
We profoundly distrust human things. So, we are forever analyzing, trying to find truth and Truth.
Analysis isn’t entirely uncoupled from emotion. Emotion isn’t entirely uncoupled from health.
The analysis we are currently doing is fresher in memory. So, when the current sequence of projects gives negative results, that skews emotions and health, which bias the next analysis in the negative direction.
So, over time, we have periods where things line up on positive and periods where things line up on negative.
Answer is to continue struggling. Even when it is hard.
I have a solution for this!
It *ought* to be uncoupled. Therefore it is. QED.
I am ABSOLUTELY convinced we will be at war with China within 4 years.
I’m told April and September are the most viable time frames for a cross Taiwan invasion.
That said, we are already in a digital war with them, and that’s probably where a lot of the fight is going to be. Conventional war is really expensive, and they don’t have the manpower to really fight one. I mean, these are the guys who took machine guns to a fist fight and still got themselves trounced by Indians with spiked baseball bats.
Digital war, and potentially biological.
One of the things keeping me out of a more vicious frame of mind is knowing that Winnie would mind more the Chinese population surviving him, and living in freedom, than he would mind the extermination of the Han.
Han are perfectly capable of living free and self governing.
Formalizing the war we’re already in? They own the Fed, lock, stock, and voting machine. There’s nobody left with authority to make a declaration.
Sorry, shooting war.
Yeah, well, you KNOW FDR liked Hitler too….
Yeah, but the mustached one declared war on his better friend, uncle Joe. Not sure who that would be wrt Xinnie
He was just jealous of Uncle Joe’s much bigger and thicker mustache.
I’ll disagree with that, not so much that they don’t own a ton of US gov’t debt, but that they’ve reached the point of John Paul Getty’s famous quote: “If you owe the bank $100 that’s your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.”
Add in that it’s still the petro DOLLAR, despite recent Chinese and Iranian attempts to make it otherwise, and they cannot afford to destroy the Fed. Their great hope was the Euro.
……..
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAAH
One of the Jodies we sang in boot camp had the line “world’s finest Navy.” Several times on the ship I would look around, realize that the line was still correct, and wonder how ^$#%ed up every other navy was.
In a similar vein, the dollar may be screwed but it’s still the best currency on the planet.
Humans are broken. But we’re the best there is 😉
On the good side, this means reality grades on a curve. You don’t have to be perfect. Just be the best you can.
I don’t have to outrun the bear…
I’d argue we have been since December and maybe October of 2019, especially if we believe the Leftist version of how dangerous the Kung Flu is.
Sure, but I meant kinetic.
Can’t gut the NCO Corps fast without gutting service capabilities.
That’s what I’ve believed. And you don’t gut the NCO Corps just by politicizing the top NCO positions like Master Chief Petty Office of the Navy/$SENIORCOMMANDS (think COMSUBLANT and higher). Most career NCOs don’t want to be more than MCPO of USS $WARSHIP or equivalent then go to some final duty station to serve out their 30 make heel and butt prints on a desk and chair.
Hell, most want to get out at 20 so don’t even aim for command MCPO.
Smart JOs listen to their NCOs or don’t get the FitReps needed to become middle grade officers, so only the most politically ambitious at 22 are going to try to push BS more than enough to make the paper work. Most will let the paper work and do the politicking outside of the machinery spaces.
Those NCOs will make it difficult to be an effective force against other Americans. Even the highly politicized Senior Command told Pelosi to get the cabinet to remove Trump, it wasn’t their job.
As you get worse and worse seamen, however, the quality of the NCOs will go down to match that of the enlistment pool of a decade earlier. Then you’ll have ones who do the political bidding, but generally that subset won’t intersect with the high quality US military of today.
Re USN, the major issue is the one you brought up above – the JOs don’t get trained in seamanship, and the COs & XOs are letting crap like “It’s deteriorated to the point that female JO#1 will not speak to female JO#2 anymore, so lets put them both on bridge midwatch together during tonight’s transit of major shipping lanes – oh and the CO should definitely stay in his rack and not be on the bridge” happen.
It’s all fixable through training on other than the PC crap. Will that happen in a China Joe* administration? That depends on the Admirals.
…and 0bama replaced as many admirals (and generals) as possible with ‘politically reliable’ chair-fillers.
Its fixable with an “I don’t care who is on the other end of the line. Do your job.” And enforcing it. I had someone on a department that I wasn’t fond of. Personality clash. But if it would take a truck out of service otherwise I’d volunteer for the shift. Its the danged job. Same with my full time and two of the people I’ve worked with that I was actually scared of are my closest friends
Yeah, but the military is lumping it. And that’s what scares me.
And?
Americans have been lumping it since before any of us were born.
To a degree and to a degree that makes engaging a peer opponent in the near term as nasty a proposition as war was in 1942, especially what the Army experienced. I think the Navy is just as unprepared prepared this time.
However, the Joint Chiefs told Pelosi if they wanted Trump out of the chain of command to do it herself by convincing Congress or the Cabinet to do so. It wasn’t their job. They were to follow lawful orders.
The Bamster may have politicized appointments and the next generation of JCS may be politicized enough to be willing to choose a political side, but institutional momentum seems to be keeping the current generation in check somewhat.
Note, non-Navy people…I contend the Navy of 1942 was more prepared for one reason only…the Navy does more wartime type things daily than the Army and, at the time, the Air Corps. A ship at sea is very much the same shooting or not and many of the dangers are present regardless, as the US Navy showed too much in the past few years (see below for the less publicized entry by the USS San Francisco). We are not teaching or engaging in seamanship as much as we did 80 years ago and it shows.
A ship at sea is very much the same shooting or not
I remember a quote from a carrier crewman back during the Iraq War saying that if the ship got involved in an actual peer conflict his job would get easier since not as many planes would be coming back.
Sad, but true.
Right the ocean is an implacable enemy all the time. Navies that forget that are in deep trouble. The recent seamanship issues seem worse than the crap in the late 70’s when all the arms of the military got a little shaky after the mess that was how Viet Nam was handled.
They didn’t make a lot of friends by deciding to heave the NG out of the nice warm Congressional offices where they’d been spending their 12 hours off, and making ’em go back out to sleeping in their cold tents in the streets.
And then Trump said that they could stay in his hotel. Even if they didn’t actually get to stay there, the fact that he offered – and the fact that it forced Congress to bring them back inside – will be remembered.
Absolutely.
The Dems are just comically bad at all of this understanding-the-commoners stuff. They’re starting to remind me of extinct French nobility.
They did. There’s pictures. A bunch of them stayed there. 😀
Yeah, but did he give them free mini-bar access? I bet not, the fascist!
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They only have the senior military leadership but still have a long way to overthrow the culture (can’t say how I know publicly). I am normally not optimistic but I think the individualists will organize, probably at the point it’s almost too late.
Have to keep up the tradition.
Even if that is their plan, that does not mean it will work as intended.
My younger brother has been a bit more plugged in on China’s attempt as colonizing Africa, and it’s been a dismal failure for them. Basically, the countries they were trying to rope into debt servitude have a half life of about five years, and everyone in them, even the war lords running them knows it.
China would loan ridiculous amounts of money to them under ruinuous terms, the current warlord would spend it all on parties and booze, and by the time China came to collect, they would have been overthrown and the “government” that owed them the money would no longer exist.
So, they’d make a new set of ruinuous loans to the new warlord, who would again, spend all the money of parties and booze, and again, woe have been overthrown and gone by the time China came to collect on the debt.
They ended up having to shut down most of their Belt and Roads program because so much of their money was simply being vacuumed into the phonograph warlords of Africa.
China does not understand how any culture not China operates, and because they are a top down command country, they do not have the cultural flexibility to adapt.
Same thing with Democrats and mass amnesty. You are correct that they are importing illegal immigrants to use as a new chattle class; they’ve used them as such for decades in California, but that comes apart if they make them citizens. Suddenly the immigrants gain all of the legal protections and access to all the legal avenues that citizens have, and the masters lose all of the extra-judicial powers they currently have over illegal immigrants.
Instead of being able to freely threaten to deport them whenever they misbehave, it becomes and evil corporation mistreating it’s poor minority workers. Do you think there wouldn’t be lawyers for days ready to run class action lawsuits against some white septegunarian for forcing her poor Hispanic workers to bring in the wine grape harvest under a wildfire evacuation warning? The lawyers would be rich for life after that suit.
Nothing ever goes according to any plan, and the bigger and more centrally controlled the plan is, the less likely things are to follow it. The only things that survive contact with reality are what can adapt and be flexible.
Stay flexible. Stay mobile, and never stop moving forward, which ever direction forward may be.
Note that is not what I’m saying. what I’m saying is they expect the “new Americans” to run home to spend/live like kings.
THEY WANT TO GIVE THE THIRD WORLD VOTES IN OUR ELECTIONS.
I think I see what you mean now, but I doubt that’s going to work according to plan either. While there are a lot of 3rd world people coming here for work and money, a very large number of them are coming here because living in the 3rd world is also a great way to wind up dead. I’m thinking they’ll be more likely to migrate inland as the border states turn into cartel lands and work in gray industries than return to their home countries. A lot of them are able to live very well here by collecting state benefits and working gray market jobs off the books.
If most of the systems move to online only, I could even see them “living” in the States with the most generous benefits while actually being in an entirely different part of the country. I.e. “living” in California, while actually working on Idaho as an off-the-books barber.
That said, that’s likely just going to accelerate the devaluation of the dollar and break our tax collection system, because once enough people are side-stepping their taxes while also dipping in the till, you just can’t print enough to make it work at all.
That won’t work–the claiming benefits in one place while earning under the table in another place–very well or very long, unless both places are really big.
In smaller towns, everyone knows everyone, you know? Or they know a guy who knows a guy. Mine-about 60,000-you don’t go to a new barber or hairdresser, you go to the one you went to since you were a kid, or your friend, or your friend’s friend. Being anonymous only works in the big city. The worse things get economically the more the network will apply.
And as currency gets worth less and less, barter’s going to pick up. Right now it’s along the lines of ’85 chevy pickup with parts truck, will trade for working riding mower’. And again, the worse things get economically the more the network will apply: if you’re working mainly for direct barter you want to be sure that you trust the folks swapping you food for your services.
Given how many west coast states paid people in Africa unemployment and stimulus funds and the contempt California has garnered in other states I can see a lot of not caring by people in Idaho or Texas about people who work under the table in their town screwing over California benefits systems.
And when things get desperate, people start to notice you have nicer stuff than you would have with the source of income they know about.
Which would result in the US becoming the Third World, essentially the US of Atlas Shrugged and while I doubt there would be a Galt’s Gultch and heroic short term rebirth, The Strike would happen.
Destroying the US is starvation for the rest of the world, however, as Peter what’s his name loves to point out the rest of the world starving will not starve the US. If that is their plan, they’ve got a narrow timeline to walk to make sure the US outlives them without rejecting it and closing off the borders.
They don’t have to, now. Dominion will make the elections come out any way they want. No court will hear any case against them now.
I think the “immigrant” thing is either inertia from the pre-Dominion days, or they have some other use for them. But they’re of no more use as voters than you are; voting is *done*, though they’ll probably go through the motions anyway, like the CCCP did.
I think the next elections when Dominium does its thing, the locals storm the precincts.
THEY KNOW THAT. Hence foreign votes.
Better to destroy all the voting machines before the election and force them to use paper ballots.
I think most people won’t realize the danger till they see them in action again.
We need to remember we’re addicts.
It doesn’t take most people, just a couple of hundred to a thousand nation wide.
The purpose is so they can use illegal alien votes to take control of all the state legislatures to, or at least enough to amend the Constitution to eviscerate it, get rid of the Bill of Rights (remember the Senate Democrats voted in lockstep to do so during the Obama years). When they mean “fundamental transformation”, they mean “fundamental transformation”.
Athens…
And in typical Dem practice, they CANNOT CONCEIVE of that functionality being made use of by anyone but them.
If you break security, it stays broken, and with an open back door, you can never tell who will wander in.
Feature, not a bug, because if that happens and they lose, they’ll get an excuse for another Russia witch hunt.
I think there are multiple reasons for the Democrats being in favor of uncontrolled illegal immigration. But a big part of the reason NOW is because they’re against whatever Trump was against, and the wall was a big feature of his campaign. They constantly use weaponized compassion, and they’re always talking about how mean it is to not allow illegal aliens to flood into the country. Also they like having servants and they don’t give a rats ass about what bringing in a huge bunch of competitors into the lower paying job markets does. In fact, since they want client identity groups, it’s probably a net benefit to them.
To be honest, I think the grand conspiracy is *possible*. Certainly after seeing the utter corruption of our “ruling elites” (spit), I’d believe any evil of them. But they’re incompetent, thankfully, and reality tends to be resistant. So I’m hoping that their evil will be just a tad more banal.
While I have prior coworkers who moved back to India so they (ahem, spouse) could have a proper number of servants again as befitted their position and class (and I assume caste but I’m not versed in determining such), I also have prior coworkers who never, not ever, wanted to go back to India, married a busty blonde coworker from Sweden, bought a house and started having lots of kids.
Similarly, I am aware of folks from south of the border who are here so they can earn enough to go back and be comfortable in their home village, and others who, while they send money to relatives back home, don’t ever want to live where they came from again.
Guess which families kids are fully assimilated in spite of all the elite crap intended to maintain heritage ghettos.
The Great Plan may be to somehow give the vote to only those who are A) reliably controllable and B) intend to move back home, but I’m just not sure how they can successfully discriminate between those and the folks who will assimilate in spite of pressures and obstacles to give their own kids the best shot – see the Vietnamese community for examples – first-gen picked strawberries, were deck hands on fishing boats, and took any and all menial job; second-gen are dentists and programmers and lawyers and starting to get into politics.
There are tales of houses in Mexico’s interior built by people who sent money home while working in the US never occupied by their builders because they decided to never leave the US.
They ended up having to shut down most of their Belt and Roads program
Yeah, I never understood the pissing and moaning about how China now owned all the port facilities or rubber plantations or tantalum mines or what have you in Inner Elbonia. So what? If they got too stroppy, the Elbonians would just nationalize the assets (not like nationalization isn’t a Third World sport) and then what’s China going to do? Elbonia is basically “judgement proof” financially and China doesn’t have the military to punish them.
Well, most of us operate on the assumption that the norms are how things work.
I mean, if the war lords actually expected to be around long enough for them to collect, it would be silly to just waste it. Why kill the goose that lays the gold eggs afterall? But, if you know that tomorrow you’re probably going to be dead, what does it matter to you whether or not the goose lays another egg tomorrow? Just spend the egg you got and feast on goose until you’re stuffed.
I think a lot of Americans operate with US assumptions about power projection capabilities the US has now and how it used those it had a century ago during our numerous occupations of Central American and Caribbean countries to get loans paid/end nationalizations.
So I think most people suspect China, lacking the restraint of the US, would just sail a carrier in and land marines to take it back.
The reality is only one nation has power projection capabilities the US has and I’m not sure we have what we had three decades ago. The PLAN is building up, but while they have a carrier the most junior seaman has within three years the same experience as the most senior CPO. The Chinese could not do that, regardless of how ruthless their government is.
Conscript navies don’t work very well. I’m told that is why some of the WWI naval engagement lost battle assessments ended up classified until only extremely recently.
Conscript carrier strike groups work even less. I recall one Soviet detector pilot who specifically asked to see a US carrier deck operation before he fully could believe that the US was a free country. There are just to many parts that require you to have absolute confidence in people who can kill you just by screwing up for it to work otherwise.
And if you don’t have a free country you may have an expensive and shiny carrier but, wellllll…….
It’s hard to launch an air strike when the entire flight deck is a raging inferno.
Get McCain out of the cockpit
Yeah, the PLAN is basically where the US was at with the Langley, albeit with an example from us of what can be done. Big gap between that and deployable CV Task Groups.
From a strategic perspective the PLAN looks to be trying to extend the reach of land-based PLA air in a denial role against the USN, with only vague aspirations towards any ambitions of true power projection.
Gunboat diplomacy by inference and threat one thing – actual power projection in the face of, well, us, is something else.
Now, absent the USN, well, in such circumstances I would not want to own any container shipping or port operations stock, and I’d sell all my shares with any exposure to Chinese mainland manufacturing really fast.
Even without the USN, I doubt PLAN power project across the Pacific or into the Indian Ocean. Distance will foreclose the former. Even if the era of RN and then USN dominance the Strait of Malacca retained the most piracy in the world. Bypassing the Strait means heading over the Indian Ocean and we’re back to the same problem with the Strait.
Air cover probably leaves them in a position to be able to neutralize the USN in close support of Taiwan, but doesn’t neutralize long range support by USN and USAF elements. With FICUS they might have enough for the invasion to work, but I wouldn’t want to be the troops used in that bet.
Further targets such as the PI are similar but even more tilted against China.
Now, there is a lot of road and rail building in Asia by China. I’m not sure that is having the problems the sea connected parts did. I suspect the PLA is able to enforce better along some of that.
Back to the Strait of Malacca, a huge amount of container shipping transits it as well and I agree with your assessment there. I wonder how much a post-American naval presence trade between Japan and Korea on one side and Europe on the other will transit on PanaMax container ships or use the US land rail land bridge (a good amount already does).
They’re better off than we were at the time of the Langley. They have some ideas about what doesn’t work. As an example, there’s a reason why exactly TWO carriers had their island on the port side of the ship. Those two carriers were built that way for good reasons (the intention was to pair them up with carriers with islands on the starboard side, and the opposing islands were supposed to allow for an increased operational tempo). But then it was discovered that pilots suffering an emergency during take-off or landing tended to veer to the left…
But, yeah, there’s still a lot of practices that they’re going to need to work out on their own.
The bigger problem for the PRC right now is the lack of logistical capability. Even if they could project force, they don’t yet have the capability to support the force projectors. The PLAN could send Liaoning or Shandong (which was commissioned in December 2019) to go bomb particularly aggressive pirates in Somalia (and I’d love to see them do something like that, actually, so people could start to get an idea of what the PLAN carrier capabilities are like). But landing marines at the pirate village and occupying it for six months would probably be out of the question without local support.
It’s debatable whether they have the transport to supply an invasion of Taiwan, and that’s only a hundred miles away.
(Anecdote: my dad was stationed in the Philippines in 1946 as an Army photographer. He knew a guy who had been transferred there from the occupation of Taiwan for the crime of liberating a DUKW and driving it to China and back.)
See the documentary “Empire of Dust” (or the trailer still on YT, which about covers the basics) on how “well” it’s going for China in Africa. Basically pushing chains uphill, even when the local government isn’t ducking out.
Looks to be viewable at https://archive.org/details/EmpireOfDust
No. Those lawyers will find themselves canceled if they take the cases when it is not for the benefit of the Deep State.
Remember there is absolutely no consistency when a tyrant enforces the law.
I think the key question is why the Democrats didn’t ram through amnesty in 2009/10? They had more votes than they do now, and they used those votes to cram Obamacare down our throats, but they didn’t do anything about immigration despite spending pretty much all of the Bush administration calling for comprehensive immigration reform (AKA amnesty). Was it because they thought they had it sewn up forever and didn’t need to legalize the illegals? Or was it because amnesty would cause them problems, either with their supporters losing an exploitable workforce or losing the carrot keeping many Hispanics on the Democrat plantation?
well, the thing is that votes still counted then.
African Americans have never been open borders fans; it was one of Trump’s appeals to them.
There were also more GOP supporters of amnesty (preferably by some other name.) McCain supported it, and as the last GOP presidential nominee carried considerable weight (especially in MSM reporting of the issue) as did Senators Isakson, Alexander, Grahamnesty and others.
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a) Yeah, that fits their flavor of profoundly crazy. Down to the large complicated plan, relying on linearity of human behavior.
b) Thing is, visas issued under the Biden administration, and probably naturalizations, are not valid. Ergo, international travelers after a certain point are legitimate military targets.
c) I had little in the way of sound action items for this. I’ve since noticed that it can be brought to the attention of airline pilots that international flights are soon an act of criminal conspiracy. Once the pilots on these flights are only internationals and hardcore Dems, direct action would possibly be defensible.
d) China’s victory lap over renewed/increased international travel seemed an indication that targeting international travelers might be a desirable idea. Except that Winnie the Pooh obviously cares nothing for human life, and hence killing folks is no way to hurt him. The purpose of the lap was to rub it in our face.
Beyond all that, it is obvious that things are breaking down in ways they cannot predict, and will not account for.
These people are not Americans as we previously understood them, and restraint based on the idea that they participate in the American peace is intellectually bankrupt. But destroying the culture of the white left may suffice in place of killing all of them.
Or as a gentleman in the local deli run by vaguely hippie-like sectarians put it, “Everything is slowly coming unglued.”
It isn’t just the glue. Things that should slide or rotate are binding. Dry joints that are supposed to hold by fit have the inner bit too small, or the outer bit too large.
Smooth isn’t, straight or flat isn’t, and curves are not what they are supposed to be.
Periodic signals aren’t, digital signals have the wrong number of bits, and the voltages are too far from the nominal values.
This. Things are coming apart. The lockdown started it.
So we’ve got to put ourselves together again. I still think your advice to write, write all the things, keep writing, is one of the best ways we’ve got to start things gluing again. It’ll reach the most reachable. And once we have more of a critical mass, things will snowball.
It’s not my advice. It’s what Himself is blasting in all my channels.
I’m depressive….
Us knurd types gotta stick together.
I’m not hearing much on any channel; just one-foot-in-front-of-next at the moment. Finally seem to be getting over the latest crud. Plan now is to finish getting last wanted things out of the house – hopefully will be able to do that next week. Then we set up with a real estate agent to get the place cleaned out, yard tended, etc. And then listed.
Once we get that sold, we’ll have resources to weather a lot of storms. So that’s our next step. *Fingers crossed.*
IF plans align (we’ll learn today) so we can bugger out this summer, instead of next winter, we’re going to scrape money together, drive down (it’s two days away) and put down a down payment on new place. Either find a property management company, or tap a localish friend to come by periodically and make sure everything is okay, and plan on being there a week a month.
This would allow us to drive down several u-haul loads and get a feel for what we need of what we currently own. Which means we can then be ready around July to do a final on this house, tossing everything we DON’T need to stage for sale, then drive down final time.
And then wait. The disparities in real estate are such that we get out of this house should then pay off the other.
EVERYTHING CROSSED.
Go for it! *Cheers*
*fingers crossed*
They MIGHT. There’s still a lot of tricksy crap, but we might manage it.
Arranging to be out of the house when selling it is a good plan, for those who can manage it. The expectations for interior orderliness, decluttering, and staging make it painful to sell a house while living in it.
Yep.
Congratulations on hopeful success!
Fingers, toes, eyes, wires….
Hey, even I’m drawing schematics in KiCad again.
We’ll make it. I’m not sure we’ll be okay in the “nothing left behind, nothing changed” sense, but we’ll make it.
Is there any sunshine around you right now? I think you need some Vit D and a little fresh air without the face diaper. Hugs
In an old house that’s neither flat, plumb, square, or true, it’s often easier to demolish a piece and rebuild it properly than it is to try to fix the existing and to spend all your time and energy planing, filling, and sanding joints to make it look nice. You might lose some of the patina and historical curlicues, but if you do it right it will look like it’s always been there.
(Ask me how I know. 😀 )
I don’t have to ask. *G* We’re going to be selling a house like that….
I do remember that time my old man had to rebuild the down stairs bathroom. Apparently the floor has rotted so much that the toilet was solely supported by the plumbing.
The hilarious thing was he actually enjoyed it, even with having to wear a gas mask the whole time…
Whenever I open up a wall or expose some structure I regularly exclaim “OMG how has this house not collapsed or burned down yet?”
The things I have found that were clearly there when the original inspectors inspected – yeah, pretty sure money changed hands.
We have the same thing here.
Inspectors? WHAT inspectors? Other than the once-over visible-stuff-only “home inspectors” you hire at sale time, I don’t think an official inspector from the city or county has set foot in this house more than once or twice in the entire period 1930-2009.
Our volunteer group does a lot of maintenance on larger facilities. Same thing, though. I still shake my head over the place where someone had “fixed,” a dryer by putting chicken wire in the lint trap. Or the “corridor,” maybe two feet wide and 20 feet long, full of pipes needing to be replaced. (Two different work sites).
And the building where the camp manager said, “Oh, while you’re sheetrocking and taping and painting the room, could you jack up the back corner so the floor’s level?” No, we replaced the rotted joist instead. *Sigh.*
I spent two years fixing plaster and other stuff in a 150 year old Victorian. It worked out in the end, I guess, but it was a horrible job. I still kind of miss the 10.5 foot ceilings. 8 feet ceilings feel claustrophobic to me.
Not in California, where you may not be able to afford the new building permits. You’re better off to remodel endlessly. (Used to be you could get away with leaving “one wall standing” and rebuild everything else, but I hear that’s changed.)
When last I cared, about 15 years ago, a house permit alone was $38,000 in L.A. County, and up in the Bay area permits totaled around $125k before you even break ground. My neighbor out in the desert built a barn that cost him $14k for materials and construction, but the PERMIT cost him $18k.
And you can’t get a well permit for new rural construction anymore either, and you can’t get a house permit without water to the property, so it better be on a local water system.
It is rare I will endorse anything said by Bill Maher, but I will note that he is more sensible* than his peers:
Bill Maher’s Surprising Remarks About Trump Supporters and the Capitol Building Storming
I know conservatives don’t like Bill Maher. I don’t mind him on certain topics like free speech, radical Islamic terrorism, and political correctness. On the latter, he feels the Democratic Party has become a bunch of crybabies who don’t want to be offended. Too bad. he calls out the illiberal tendencies while also bashing Republicans. He did wish for an economic recession to help boot Trump from a second term. It’s disgusting wishing that on American families, but it worked. It happened. And yet, while many in the liberal media were gloating and celebrating the end of the GOP following Trump’s exit and the January 6 riot that engulfed Capitol Hill, Maher knows better.
His new rules and special commentary segment that ends his show Real Time on HBO was nuanced during the January 15 episode. He rehashed how this isn’t the end of the GOP. The GOP didn’t end with Nixon. It didn’t end with Bush and Katrina. He noted that 74 million Trump supporters are not self-deporting, and neither are liberals. Maher aptly noted that you can think someone is an a-hole while not becoming one yourself, that it’s possible to dislike Trump, even hate him, but not hate those who support him. I’m sure many in Maher’s audience surely disagreed with this take—he wasn’t popping champagne.
[SNIP]
… he also took a swipe at Democrats in California, who he says probably instilled a feeling in Babbitt that her being a white person was more of a problem than her financial situation. Oh, and they didn’t do anything to stop her from accepting what could be described as a predatory loan.
The liberal comedian noted this is why everyone wants to burn something down. He also noted that California is a swamp too, a deep blue state held together by red tape. He noted how it’s taken him four years to install solar panels on his roof. It still hasn’t been approved and the shed that’s part of Maher’s home edition took three years to be up to code. No wonder why people are fleeing the state.
[END EXCERPT]
*An admittedly very low hurdle.
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Jesus. This crap is depressing as hell. So many evil turdheads in the Democratic Party, in the mass media, in academia, and in every rotten little corner of society where human roaches can scuttle with so little regard for ordinary folks who want nothing more than to live in peace and quiet. I simply refuse to accept resigned pessimism as the path forward.
Screw it. I’m gonna ask a complex question. Maybe no one will answer. Who knows?
Suppose you could sell your books and stories over a heavily decentralized network that bypasses censorious tech giants in automatically pushing early copies of your work to experienced right-wingish beta readers for thoughtful reviews and then in automatically notifying the personal software representatives of potential readers of upcoming finished versions of said books and stories? Suppose the network also automatically implements additional payment methods as necessary to bypass shithead attempts to shut down the economic activities of conservative, libertarian, and objectivist writers, aided substantially of course by the parent corporation’s reputation-management and financial-instruments experts?
Suppose you could search for information of any kind over a memetic network that bypasses the subtle and not-so-subtle censorship of Google and other search-engine firms and that massively encourages much higher-quality information presentations that efficiently collect critical ideas that formerly would have been scattered over dozens or hundreds of websites in the Old Web?
Suppose you could simply wait in a comfortable armchair for genuinely viable business opportunities to be automatically assembled for you from a world wide network of relevant experts and potential co-founders and coworkers or else pick and choose from the most attractive gigs and outright jobs that automatically find their way to you based on your life skills, formal education, and business experience?
Suppose that you could casually scan extraneous belongings with your smartphone and almost instantly get the best offers over an automated network that matches buyers with sellers with no need to screw around with crushing fees or the formatting of a seller’s page on eBay or similar auction services? Suppose you could simply put those belongings into an outside locker for pickup by a roaming freelancer who trucks it over to an inspector who cleans it up and fixes it for passing on to the buyer or who disassembles it for the desired spare parts that otherwise would be impossible to obtain at reasonable cost from the original manufacturer?
Suppose you could let your virtual software representative automatically boycott haters like anti-MAGA zealots and favor like-minded folks in the great bulk of your economic activities with little or no effort as part of a wider system that also automatically bars from your extended community known rapists and murderers and robbers and other violent, dangerous people such as communists and socialists?
Suppose you could relentlessly push back against censorship and political persecution with slick, polished mini-movies and other multimedia presentations that forcefully make the case for your own side in a blaring tone that almost rattles your teeth as it emerges from your smartphone? Suppose that each tiny public or otherwise attempt to frighten and terrorize you into not being a free man or woman was met with angry, determined opposition from a force of like-minded fellow citizens, tens or even hundreds of of millions strong across the country and the planet?
Suppose you could engage socially and commercially with family, friends, and the public at large through an efficient, integrated alternative to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, Snapchat, Zoom, and virtually every other form of social media with powerful tools for contemptuously screening out the hate-filled whinings of scuttling leftist vermin and seeing only the communications of right-minded, decent fellow citizens who don’t hate you and want you dead?
Suppose, suppose, suppose. It goes on and on and on like that, hundreds of included services large and small. Would you be willing to pay up with a flat fee of $35–80 monthly, mostly depending on optional enterprise features aimed at mid-sized and larger businesses rather than individuals or small businesses, for that kind of utterly overwhelming relevancy engineering just like with any other professional services such as from lawyers, doctors, plumbers, and so forth and so forth, all of whom very, very reasonably expect the fuck to be paid for their work and the years they put into learning how to do their jobs well? There frankly, bluntly seems to be this extremely common attitude that one should hand over an entire lifetime of research and development under oftentimes very difficult circumstances for free, free, FREE.
I probably will regret this post. But the times are frightening, and I’m all out of patience with myself and the public. I’ve been preparing for a long time to implement this. I’ve spent considerable money on the last bits of hardware and software necessary for a proper software development effort. So! Is it worth the effort, or will people greedily demand all this for nothing?
I await an answer or no answer at all. Whatever. -_-
P.S. Yup, this is harsh. But it’s still way less angry and bitter than the other post I recently wrote and then deep-sixed. Deal with it.
I’m not sure what you are asking, honestly.
Your supposes — sounds great. Quibbles on the details.
As for price, yeah, no. It will be more than that.
Let me say I know things going on for ALMOST all of those. But they’re independent and unorganized.
And I still have NO idea what you’re trying to say.
FWIW I think he’s trying to sell us his new network idea. Or at least do market research on demand for the services he wants to provide.
But then why be all like “I’m sorry I’m so angry.”
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I want to know more. I like and appreciate the intensity–I’m sick to death of the lukewarm sentiments.
I just can’t figure out what you’re saying or asking, quite. Can you continue?
Seconded. As someone with a background in information science, I find it fascinating in theory — but can’t figure out how it would work in practice.
Back when music piracy was all the rage, I’d suggested that rather than whack-a-mole it, the PTB should have enlisted those ‘sharing’ : for each copy shared, pay ’em a little bit, and charge the recipient a little bit. Automated micropayments. Pennies per each, but incentive.
But no, they preferred to hold onto their monopoly, and make examples of a few unluckies. Sound familiar??
If One decides to move to a red state keep in mind that it can change overnight. During the hitlery scare my Wife and I dropped everything and moved to center/west Idaho only to have a serious rino get voted in as governor. We sunk everything into our little farm so we are stuck here. Dont make the same mistake. IDAHO!! Going libdem!!! Hell truely has frozen over. (Thanks for these blogs Sarah, it helps)
Sure. Which is why I’m also choosing the AREA carefully.
Heck, CO was solid red when I moved here.
But its still solid (commie) red.
To be fair, the only reason Idaho was ever Republican, is because the DNC left it behind.
All of those supposedly red areas still have strong union presences, especially in the mining industry.
And Sun Valley is where Pedowood keeps its winter cottages. That’s why that particular county had such high Chinese Lung Rot numbers; Californians fled the plague and brought it with them.
When I lived a year in the Boise area (2013ish) the whole area was blood-red. But shortly thereafter, they SOMEHOW managed to elect a bright blue local official (I forget the details). Gee, how did THAT happen??
Still, at least you’re well away from where it’s likely to get really ugly.
Greetz from eastern Montana 🙂
Oh no! Not Idaho too! I loved my 4 years living there. Good, down to earth people.
Between malicious compliance, nusance tricks, and downright dirty deeds there are things that will put a stick in the spokes of their ecologically sound bicycles. But it takes folks willing to get their hands dirty.
As the philosopher said, “You can always take one with you.”
more is better
…and most is best.
I plan to have a proper escort when the time comes.
Had A friend I’ve lost touch with who was SF in Vietnam; his phrase was, “When I go down, I plan on sending side boys ahead of me to pipe me aboard.” Or words to that effect.
I don’t watch TV, etc., has the MSM shown or discussed the National Guard in DC sleeping on bard concrete floors in a DC parking garage is is this a don’t see, don’t tell situation?
It’s hit Twitter.
Doesn’t fit the narrative.
“No thanks for coming all the way out here to guard against an imaginary threat. Go home, scram, beat it, and don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out.”
Not that I watch the major media either, but such reflections of its coverage as I do see give me impression is that they are too busy giving puppy tongue baths to Dear Leaders to report any such thing.
It showed up on social media, everybody normal got torqued off, and all of a sudden the Democratic leadership/Schumer were Shocked and Appalled at Such an Oversight.
They got thrown out of the Capitol because D-Keating saw somebody eating! with his mask off! at Dunkin Donuts in the Capitol! He previously had gotten somebody thrown off an airplane for bad/sarcastic maskwearing technique, and was apparently still drunk on his Karen powers.
I will admit that Sununu however you spell surprised me.
Sarah, if you hadn’t heard, one of the last pre-inaugural announcements was that the HQ for the Space Command will br in Huntsville, AL, not Colorado Springs. Polis is not happy about that. What a shame.
(OTOH, I hate to think about just how many nukes are pointed at Redstone Arsenal. It was three before they started consolidating logistics commands there).
I heard.
likely more than 3. way more.
got them pointed here. conveniently 2 gov’t contract companies with campuses butted together and even a shared parking lot
Flight time to Redstone from the Gulf is a lot shorter than any flight time to Denver.
just gotta be in the gulf but that’s a chipshot
Trash Pandas for the WIN!!!
Which is still smaller than the number of nukes pointed at Colorado Springs and NORAD.
Ya. I won’t be surprised if it relocates purely for politics. Its like I Inslees histrionics when BCA moved all 787 to the only site that could build all 3. Its a straightforward decision, not like they are obviously playing favorites, but because it hurts progticians it becomes a big deal. There will probably be another unionization push within 6 mos in SC as well to either drain cash from site or give excuse for uncle fed to step on em
Interesting thought, and definitely a possibility. What HAS to occur is for the Hispanics who are here legally to pitch a fit, as they’ve started doing, and KEEP doing it. They don’t want to see their culture here sullied by the left, as they lump ‘all’ illegals into that Hispanic bucket. I know the locals I know are NOT happy…
It was to counter this that “multicultural whiteness” was created. Granted, the concept is absurd drivel, but it’s what will be flung in the face of any Hispanic who gets uppity.
“Multicultural whiteness” is just a fancy woke way of saying “Uncle Tom/Tio Tomas”. It’s not new: Engels called it “false consciousness” and it was just as stupid in 18whatever as it is now.
“Multicultural Whiteness” equals “Does not do as they are told by their betters.”
Those so accused should be proud, as it simply confirms that they, like all true Americans, have no “betters”.
I was already confused that Indians north of the border were “Native Americans”, but Indians south of the border were “Hispanic”, even without a drop of Spanish blood, culture, or language. And people from Spain were “Europeans” and not Hispanic.
Then came “non-Hispanic whites”, which I never found a sane explanation of. I guess there are non-non-Hispanic whites by now. The Fudd seems to make it up as it goes along.
MultiRACIAL whiteness.
I can understand the impulse to remember something that makes sense, but it’s important to be clear that they really are that insane.
See also “white Hispanic.”
They are still at the mercy of events beyond their control. I almost expect black swan events at this point.
I HOPE for them.
As I told some students last week apropos of the First Gulf War, “A president can decide ‘I’m going to be a domestic policy president’ but the rest of the world always gets a vote.”
Speaking of policy: I seem to recall courts informed Trump that he could not undo Obama’s executive orders by way of another EO. So why is Biden being allowed to undo Trump’s EOs by way of more EOs??
Because four legs good, two legs bad.
Because Democrats and leftists are Speshul.
The rationale for some of the anti-Trump decisions quite literally came down to, “Yes, a president does have power over this particular thing that you want to do. However, everything that you do is motivated by your bad intentions. So it’s unconstitutional for YOU to do this.”
Grrrr. The Second Axiom of the Balzacqian Ethics is “You can’t read minds; words and deeds are all you have to go on.”
As I’ve noted over the last few weeks, no one ever expects something like 1989, the year that the Iron Curtain completely collapsed. And yet, events like that happen anyway.
Though we ought to arrange to be in a position to take advantage of them if at all possible.
Oddly, now *I* have the weird Sense of Calm you mentioned in earlier posts. I have NO IDEA how it will come to be, but the Deep Unconscious is bubbling up with a simple, “No, it won’t work out how they expect. Be not afraid.” I do not pretend to understand.
Gonna spend the next week or so stocking up what and where I can… and then hunker down as best I can. It’s maybe Summer 1914… and I don’t know if the the Archduke has been shot or not… but it’s not Nov 12, 1918. Not yet. But… time is compressing. LSD trips are gonna look tame, for a time.
This. My emotions can still shoot up into space if I’m triggered, which doesn’t take much. But I’m not un-calm. I’ve been around insanity before and that’s what the communists are doing is acting insane.
What to do? Remember what is true. Remember who you are. Then do the next right thing. And that means we get to be ourselves.
Our foundations include our faith, our families, and our own spirits. Nurture and strengthen these with good words of wisdom, prayer, caring for ourselves and each other, and remembering we are Americans. We do not compromise with communists. Not ever.
Be pragmatic: look at the world around you and harden and reinforce your life where you can. Lots of food and water, medicines, cash, animal food, all those things you need should be well supplied and ready in the home.
Be creative: In all things, act like you’re made in the image of God, the Creator. Have fun with things. Be mischievous. Be wicked. Downvote the pedophile’s you-tube videos, make nasty comments. If you can post some happy graffiti, do so. On the street, in the stores. Make their lives a living hell with mockery.
Be aware: I’m afraid the insanity is going to get really, really bad, as in Inquisition-like bad, gulags bad. It will be shocking to watch. Understand that you’re going to feel traumatized and shocked and know how to care for yourself so you can see clearly and keep your head.
There are tons of other things already happening–movement away from the tech commies, alternate banking systems because we’re going to be shut out. If this is your skill, create something, make a new system.
Do what you can to stay integrated, stay hopeful, and stay true to yourself. We’re made for struggle and this might be just the series of events necessary to pull all of us “comfy” Americans out into the battlefield.
I’ll be honest, the things I wake up with in middle of night are usually not …. optimistic.
And I know it will go wrong for them. BUT we must be aware of their plans, to be able to circumvent.
And we don’t have much time.
Not just circumvent. But also to take advantage of the personal opportunities that might arise when things go awry for them.
And part of this is I NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE and to a place where my subconscious isn’t screaming at me.
Alice feels ya (~_^)
I sympathize. My mental state before we got ourselves moved to the new place was… not good. Is better now. Not great, but better.
Yeah, people are not widgets, and they so very often behave according to their own priorities and imperatives rather than those of their “betters – as evidenced by the voting pattern of the Hispanic vote in November, which created oh so much consternation in the canape cart circles.
The other thing I’d note is to observe that if they make all that effort to construct a military that has no allegiance above that inculcated to itself by the military training regimen, they won’t end up with a biddable robot army that will do only what the elites tell it to do. A military that’s only allegiance is to itself is simply fertile ground for one of the oh so many politically ambitious general officers to move themselves up in authority. The first time those oh so clever turnip-plan elites import 30,000 troops from THAT army into DC for “security” they will find that out.
I’m still curious as to why Guard units were called to DC instead of the regulars. We’ve already seen the massive fail of their logistics chain; they don’t seem to be getting much in the way of support from the regular Army.
One thing I’m sure of, most of them are going to be seriously pissed off when they get back home.
Me too. I never did see an explanation of exactly how that happened, except that Trump had approved it. Which he probably just shrugged about. Was it Nancy Pelosi? The FICUS handlers? Because it was crazy.
I even saw a suggestion that Trump himself had called them up, though I’m skeptical.
But yeah, the whole thing was very strange. The only things that I can think of are 1.) they didn’t want a repeat of BLMtifa running riot through DC streets as happened four years ago, and 2.) they were worried about right-wing protests that might embarass the incoming administration, and so decided to do something that would cause anyone with a smidgen of intelligence to keep his or her head down.
I wondered why they used the NG who are closer to their States. This may cause a ripple effect… because of how they were treated.
Because they wanted to use the call up as a pretext to screen all those national guard troops for political correctness so they can use that information against them; expect to see stories in the next couple of months about how guard members are suddenly losing their regular jobs or being otherwise unpersoned, subsequent to those FBI checks. The Democrats want the military to be an arm of the Democratic Party.
I’d say that this would be the objective.
IIRC dishonorable discharge screws you over with NICS as well.
Do you think they will miss out on a chance to use that trick?
My wild unsupported guess that the Guard units were called so that the Democrats could pretend to themselves that this was merely a law-enforcement/riot-control action against despised criminal terrorists. Calling in the regulars would grant the rebel scum a degree of military respectability that the Dems really wanted to avoid granting.
They want to fight a straw insurrection that they can easily kick and stomp, with just enough blood to let them waive a few bloody shirts. A real insurrection that posed a real threat has to be a nightmare scenario for them.
Word today was they don’t even have enough portapotties, as they discovered when they got ejected from camping in the Hallowed Halls. And no generators. Somehow this seems planned by someone who has never once had to live rough.
And several governors, including mine, said enough with D.C. dissing our troops, and called ours home.
Deck ’em again, Greg!!
It was Pelosi.
Likewise. Ever since late December, and more so now, I have this sense that I need to focus on writing, and Day Job, and doing Alma things. I’m to pray for the country, but not to worry. (Not that it stops me, but I suspect the Great Editor has worn out a lot of blue pencils writing “stet and I mean it” on the margins of my chapter.)
I felt that sense of calm on Wednesday and then complete fell apart today. I don’t know why.
A tangent…not a happy one, but not unhappy either. I’m not sure of what it is. It’s the conclusion of something I told the Huns about over the summer, so I figured I’d share the conclusion.
The body of my murdered friend has been found. Her roommate has been charged with murder one. The story includes some implications I’m ignoring for now, but the ones I will look at lead me to believe she was killed in her sleep (based on some earlier facts I know).
I know how to respond to this about as much as I do every other part of having known a murder victim. The best I have is what Z said last night when we found out, “At least instead of resting in a freezer in the woods in Arkansas she can be laid to rest with Tom” (her husband who died suddenly three years ago this past Christmas).
I now return you to your regularly scheduled blog.
ho boy
all I can do is offer my condolences to you, her family, and friends.
Closure is sometimes more important than happy.
Sad to hear that this was one of those cases.
I hope the knowledge brings you, and all her other friends and family, comfort. *virtual hug* A little peace, no matter how little, is better than forever not knowing.
sorry herb
I don’t know what to say, because I still don’t know what to say about the murder victims I’ve known. Why do good people suffer, and crappy killers live?
“They will hunt after the life of the just, and condemn innocent blood…
But the Lord will bring their iniquity back on them, and He will cut them off, in their malice.
The Lord our God will destroy them.”
(Ps. 93/94:21, 23)
I’m sorry to hear that. You have my condolences.
And I’m glad you now definitively know what happened to her.
I hope for justice in the court system.
I hope for Larry Niven’s Outsiders to sell us designs for cheap fusion reactors and antigravity, too. Ain’t holdin’ my breath.
Oop, that’s not really appropriate for this thread, is it? Don’t mind me, I’ll just sit here with foot in mouth for a while.
I don’t see how anybody can do such a thing. There will be a line in a story I’m writing:
“No! They’re much worse than animals. They choose not to be better than this.”
So sorry. We had a similar situation many years ago. Just sorry.
Sometimes you just have to take the beatings while awaiting a opportunity to take more effective action. I always liked the tale of Conan ailed to a cross, catching an impatient vulture in his teeth and drinking its blood.
While there’s life, there’s hope. America’s too great an idea to simply fade away.
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“This is their chance to send money AND ballots abroad. FOREVER.”
They don’t need to do that – they’ve already demonstrated willingness to fraud their way into office, manufacturing votes as needed. Sending ballots abroad would merely make their lack of legitimacy overt.
Take not counsel of your fears – things are already sufficiently bad without conceiving of worse.
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It’s a question of control: How do they prevent all those offshore voters ballots from electing the wrong person?
As a general rule, all organizations which achieve success proceed to slavishly do exactly the same thing next time around. Having put together their world-class voter fraud organization sufficient to falsify a Presidential election, they will not do anything to dilute its power, especially by adding ballot-filler-outers that live outside their urban center imaginary-pipe-breaking control.
And this is how they can be beaten – assume they will do the exact same thing and work around and under and bypass and subvert. The CA districts which were flipped back used this method.
Yes, it will be hard, but it is not impossible. I second what RES says: Take not the counsel of your fears, and remember the words of a wise white Mormon male with a great rack: In the end we win, they lose.
> How do they prevent all those offshore voters ballots from electing the wrong person?
Dominion Voting Systems. And the old-style fraud systems where Dominion has yet to take over.
They don’t care how overt and open it is anymore. They are confident their control of the institutions makes being open about unable to harm their efforts. Indeed, their indoctrination of schoolchildren is designed to create cheers of approval by the indoctrinated as to what they are doing and to gaslight those who have not bought into the indoctrination. They are counting on their media arm to demonize those that they intend to ship off to the camps for being members of the wrong group or for being “unmutual”. The people now in charge of the Democratic Party are those who think their pal Bill Ayer’s belief that millions of those who don’t accept the revolution will need to be liquidated is a policy to be implemented.
If the Democrats’ will to power is not stopped, they WILL put people in mass graves.
Day 3 it’s already happening. 5,000 NG troops put into parking garage.
All United States citizens hang our heads in shame.
WHY?
I didn’t do it. And I wouldn’t tolerate it.
HOW IS THIS EVERY CITIZEN’S FAULT?
I think that is supposed to be part of that “national consciousness” thing.
Don’t agree, but then I never understood the group mind thing anyway.
You mistake the Sinal Salute for shame. You know the one where you pinch the bridge of your nose with two fingers because someone is being just. That. Stupid. See also the mass face-palm. Sometimes followed by the the mass head-desk. None indicate shame.
No doubt the national guard members who complaint will find themselves shipped by Harris/Biden to Iraq and Syria in the same way non-front line troops and officials used to get shipped off to the Eastern Front by Germany during WWII.
Given the quantity of Russian hardware over there we can just rerun Hogan’s Heroes clips of soldiers in fear of Ze Russian Front!?
You can hang your head in SHAME, but I’ve done my duty and I refuse to take on the guilt of the elitists. I refuse.
Hey Joe!
Treat our National Guard like that?
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My governor said screw that, and called ours home.
Heh. Multiple headlines, so one posts will be linked:
Fed-up Republican governors pull Guard troops from ‘half-cocked’ mission in DC
The governors of Texas, New Hampshire, and Florida have ordered their National Guard troops sent to assist with security ahead of President Joe Biden’s inauguration, home after some soldiers were banished from federal buildings overnight and forced to camp in parking garages.
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Guardsmen Feeling Betrayed and Used After Getting Kicked Out of the Capitol
The thousands of National Guardsmen stationed at the U.S. Capitol and nearby congressional buildings were abruptly told to vacate the premises on Thursday.
A new report in Politico says the Guardsmen were told by Capitol Police to leave the Capitol premises and set up mobile command centers outside or in nearby hotels. The Guardsmen were also told to take rest breaks during their 12-hour shifts either outside or in nearby parking garages.
The report cited a Guardsmen whose unit was suddenly told to vacate the Dirksen Senate Office Building where troops had gathered following a long couple of days at the Capitol complex. The 5,000 troops in the unit were reportedly forced to “rest” on the hard floors of a parking garage that lacked internet reception, contained a single electrical outlet, and a lone bathroom with just two stalls.
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Hey, Dems, You Won’t Have to Dig Deep to Get to the Bottom of the National Guard’s Eviction at US Capitol
Bronson wrote about this last night. It’s a total disgrace. It’s unforgivable. It’s how this town treats the military. Thousands of National Guardsmen were evicted from the grounds of the US Capitol. They were caught resting in the nearby parking garages. They were deployed to protect the capital from any attack during the inauguration of Joe Biden. The January 6 riot that engulfed the US Capitol was the cause for what could only be described as a military occupation of the city. Luckily, nothing happened when Biden was sworn in as the 46th president of the United States. Yet, for the troops who stood guard, this eviction notice reeked of betrayal (via Politico):
The news sparked outrage. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) vowed to get to the bottom of this mess. Other members of Congress sent messages of thanks to the troops while offering their office space as a place for them to rest. Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) delivered food to some of the guardsmen. Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) appears to have worked hard to ensure all of the guardsmen are cleared from the garage.
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Sen. Tim Scott Livid Over Treatment of National Guard Troops
National Guardsmen who had been stationed at the Capitol were reportedly kicked out and told to set up mobile command centers outside or in nearby hotels on Thursday.
“Yesterday dozens of senators and congressmen walked down our lines taking photos, shaking our hands and thanking us for our service,” a Guardsman told Politico. “Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. We feel incredibly betrayed.”
It was a shameful sight considering these troops had been on the front lines the past few weeks defending our nation’s capital in the wake of the deadly riots on January 6.
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) was among the lawmakers who are absolutely livid over how the National Guard had been treated. As he captured, 5,000 troops were forced to underground parking lots. As Bronson reported, they were reportedly forced to “rest” on the hard floors of a parking garage that lacked internet reception, contained a single electrical outlet, and a lone bathroom with just two stalls.
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Finally, that Politico story:
‘We feel incredibly betrayed’: Thousands of Guardsmen forced to vacate Capitol
Thousands of National Guardsmen were allowed back into the Capitol Thursday night, hours after U.S. Capitol Police officials ordered them to vacate the facilities, sending them outdoors or to nearby parking garages after two weeks pulling security duty after the deadly riot on Jan. 6.
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All National Guard troops were told to vacate the Capitol and nearby congressional buildings on Thursday, and to set up mobile command centers outside or in nearby hotels, another Guardsman confirmed. They were told to take their rest breaks during their 12-hour shifts outside and in parking garages, the person said.
“What now?” I’m going to start the ball rolling on my publishing company. For now it’ll be just me, and in a bit the hubby. Maybe more later. We’ll see.
I’ve got 2 books I need to find a copy editor for. 2 more to finish. A hundred or so more to write. As soon as I finish this I’ve got about 30 min to get on the writing.
When they’re done I’m going to put them up wide, since I can. I’m just starting out. I’m not locked into anybody’s ecosystem. Then I’m going to write the next one and do it again. And again. And again. One story at a time.
I’m going to build. Maybe it’ll be nothing… Maybe. Maybe it’ll take 100 years to pull us out of of this, maybe the Almighty will pull us out sooner. I don’t know. The future and I are old enemies. I’m going to focus on a foundation of stories. It’s not fast, but neither was what got us here. Along the way I’ll collect other bricks in this foundation: Stories by people who write to build not to destroy, including the present company. Brick by brick. Story by story.
There may be other things. The garden will get dug. If things get too crazy… I have a gully and a Marine. But foremost, I’m going to build as best I can. We’ll see what comes along the way.
“What now?” I’m going to start the ball rolling on my publishing company. For now it’ll be just me, and in a bit the hubby. Maybe more later. We’ll see.
I’ve got 2 books I need to find a copy editor for. 2 more to finish. A hundred or so more to write. As soon as I finish this I’ve got about 30 min to get on the writing.
When they’re done I’m going to put them up wide, since I can. I’m just starting out. I’m not locked into anybody’s ecosystem. Then I’m going to write the next one and do it again. And again. And again. One story at a time.
I’m going to build. Maybe it’ll be nothing… Maybe. Maybe it’ll take 100 years to pull us out of of this, maybe the Almighty will pull us out sooner. I don’t know. The future and I are old enemies. I’m going to focus on a foundation of stories. It’s not fast, but neither was what got us here. Along the way I’ll collect other bricks in this foundation: Stories by people who write to build not to destroy, including the present company. Brick by brick. Story by story.
There may be other things. The garden will get dug. If things get too crazy… I have a gully and a Marine. But foremost, I’m going to build as best I can. We’ll see what comes along the way.
Dave Truesdale (He’s on MeWe.) Hes good, reliable and affordable.
Thank you, ma’am. I will look him up.
Oh, and to borrow something the left used to use as a signal: He’s one of the good people. I.e. one of us.
They stole it from us. (The country notion of ‘they’re good folks’ ) I see no reason not to steal that compliment back.
I thought that was La Cosa Nostra that came up with it; he is a good fella (Thus Goodfellas).
“They think in our spirits
we are like them,
Yet we know the truth:
we are still men.”
*tips hat* some things come better for me in poetry than prose.
I’m not a poetry fan, but “I know what I like.”
And in other news…. now its apparently A-OK to arrest Antifa for attacking the courthouse in Portland.
of course.
Night of the Long Knives. Twitter is blasting their accounts too.
Being less useful than the Brownshirts, they didn’t last so long. Also, they didn’t need so much violence to be put down — one wonders why, and then remembered it’s not done yet.
c4c
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9177513/Biden-orders-review-domestic-extremism-threat-US.html
dis gon be gud!
Until the knives come out, everyone is screwed. Once the knives come out, everyone is still screwed, but at least there’ll be a small chance. If everything goes in our favor at the right times, and HE wills it, we’ll get a republic again. Many of us will not see it. Even if we win, there’s a good chance we just end up under a different kind of tyranny.
I’m trying to be polite. But, I have to say this.
It’s not all doom and gloom. It’s not going to be good, mind you. Not for a while. But, I’m already seeing a lot of quiet push-back in places. Several state governors are already filing suits against the polices being proposed. The days when insults and personal destruction worked isn’t as much anymore…Andy Ngo’s book gets banned from the shelves at Powell’s Books in Portland, there’s protests that the bookstore was still selling it electronically. Book now hits best-seller status on Amazon-and him and his publisher are laughing all the way to the bank.
There isn’t enough money to keep Hollywood afloat if the Crow Flu continues for more than a few months. Most people have gotten out of the habit of movies, and that’s where they make most of their money. People are canceling their streaming services, especially as they keep seeing that a few tiny little bones have been tossed at them, thinking it’ll keep them quiet while they do what they have always wanted to do.
(The current “tiny bone” for fans? Luke Skywalker’s reappearance in The Mandelorian and reports that the groundwork is being put into place to relegate the Sequel Trilogy to Elseworlds/an alternate timeline. Fan were happy, overjoyed…then reports started to come out that they’re looking to “sideline” Gina Carano and her character for more of an emphasis on Rosario Dawson. Fans are already not happy about this rumor, especially since Carano has been one of the highlights of the last few years. They like Dawson, no question, but Carano has been the strong female character that most of them have been wanting to see for years.)
Been seeing some side-chat on a couple of boards that I look at that goes something like this-
“Talked with the union, they’re not going to push Biden on the Keystone cancellation.”
“Man, that’s bulls(YAY!)t! You know they’ll use that as an excuse to cancel our jobs soon. And, the union donated all that money to him, and they aren’t going to do anything?”
“Nope…”
…
“I was talking with some of the company brass. Law says that this has to be a union gig for our trade.”
“Yea, so? The union bosses want to be big shots in DC, not help us.”
“…it’s not that hard to form a new union in this state. There’s some legal paperwork and such, but nothing says we can’t form our own union with us and the guys on the other job sites. Company brass would pay us only 90% as much-not as much collective bargaining power, but those are solid numbers. They’d put them in writing before we formed a new union, I made that very clear. I think I could get them to take it to 95% with a bit of arm twisting. Best thing, we would decide where the money went if we made contributions, not the national union.”
The current people in charge are idiots. They’re great at getting to power…but not good at running the things that they’re supposed to be in charge of. They believe that because they want a think to happen, it will happen. Too many people have seen the fix, know it’s in, and are ready to start dealing with things. It’s just not obvious because the usual “reporting” institutions are too invested in having “access” and they don’t want to lose the good thing they have.
And, they have less power than they think they do. It only looks huge because it is-but it’s hollow. Fragile if you know how to hit it right…or hard enough wrong and continuously.
Right now? Stay sane, stay safe, and keep calm. Divest from the dangerous tech companies as much as you can, have backups when you can’t right now. Start working at the local level on things like election reform to prevent fraud-hopefully by 2022 and definitely by 2024. Save money where you can, don’t buy from the big woke companies if you can help it. And, do the worst thing you can to them-ignore them, unless they’re a problem.
It’s like local car dealers (or gun shops, or a thousand other examples). They used to be able to swindle and bullshit their customers with impunity; no one knew any better.
That changes when everyone knows *exactly* what the real market looks like.
Whack them even harder when they think their shit doesn’t stink.
The great irony is that they have examples of what the blind spots can cost them, yet maintain them firmly.
My personal, best example-Ragu was once the only spaghetti sauce you could get. If Ragu didn’t make it, you didn’t have it. Prego wanted to get some of that market share, so they asked a marketing guru (Malcom Gladwell, I think) what the perfect spaghetti sauce would be to beat Ragu. Gladwell realized that there was no perfect spaghetti sauce, only perfect spaghetti sauces. So, he ran a taste-test program and they went through about thirty or so flavors of sauce and discovered that that people liked three kinds of sauce, mostly-regular, spicy, and extra chunky.
Ragu didn’t make an extra-chunky spaghetti sauce. They weren’t serving a third of the sauce-buying market and there was a completely un-sold demographic out there, just waiting. So, Prego went in on making extra-chunky spaghetti sauce, toppled Ragu from it’s throne, and soon enough you had dozens of different kinds of spaghetti sauce on the shelves because everybody wanted to catch lightning in a bottle.
Seeing this now with comic books-eight of the current ten top sellers are manga compilations in the US. American comic book “pros” are crowing that there isn’t any problems in the comic book industry at all! And are still producing the same crap that nobody likes, nobody buys, and lingers on the shelves like a bad odor.
That was what Fox News used to have: they made a product for the part of the viewing audience that wasn’t being covered.
“… the same crap that nobody likes, nobody buys, and lingers on the shelves like a bad odor.”
While it lingers it is also soaking up owner capital, reducing profits (or, if you prefer, rate of recoupment of investment) and increasing business fragility. Old-timers will remember the great Indie-Crash that nearly wiped out the comic book stores in the late-eighties, leaving store inventories glutted with (typically) B&W books that nobody was buying, having given up on finding “the next” Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Or the mid-Nineties crash as comic stores, compelled to buy every crossover, event (even if the current Secret Crisis War tie-in had no more than a quick two panels cameo of the “event”) and guest appearance of Lobo, Wolverine, Punisher, Deadpool or whichever “hot” character of the
monthweek.Marvel & DC had little risk as comics stores had to order three months in advance (with no recourse if books were delayed), buying the books with no right of return if sales didn’t meet predictions. The big-2 nearly collapsed the marketplace under the load of their efforts to soak up all store capital in order to squeeze independents like Dark horse and Image off the shelves.
Anybody thinking only comics producers use that tactic isn’t paying attention.
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I think people are, and hopefully the new round of indie comic book makers are doing their best to avoid getting caught like this. They’re either selling directly to customers or to the stores, avoiding the bottleneck of Diamond distribution.
Not good for the comic book stores, but still…
“Most people have gotten out of the habit of movies, and that’s where they make most of their money.”
Correction: that’s where Hollywood *launders* most of its money.
Gotta be doing interesting things to the dark side of that economy.
I’m almost surprised that there aren’t more porn productions in action, if only to keep people busy.
Too much amateur porn for free.
OnlyFans is doing pretty well for quite a few ladies.
The bit about forming new unions that aren’t beholden to Democrat interests is very enouraging!
I’d be cautious with talk of Carano being pushed out. Pressure has been put on Disney for quite a while now to drop her, but there were no indications anywhere either in front of or behind the scenes that suggested that Disney intended to get rid of her. If anything, she played a bigger role in Season 2 than she did in Season 1. Further, there are suggestions that Disney is doing at least some pushback against the woke crowd with Star Wars. Kathleen Kennedy is reportedly quite unhappy about The Mandalorian, and Disney’s refusing to let her touch it.
Or in other words, rumors of her being forced out might just be wishful thinking on the part of those who would like to see her gone.
As for Dawson –
I was disappointed with the episode that she appeared in (not necessarily her fault). And I really hope the show keeps the jedi appearances to a minimum.
There is a war going on inside Disney. The return of Luke shows that the good guys are starting to win.
Hamill was definitely happy about it after what The Last Jedi did to Luke.
Conclusion unsupported by evidence! Suggested revision: The return of Luke shows that the
goodless bad guys are starting to win.~
I don’t understand why they keep Kathleen Kennedy. Seems like she’s cost them a ton of money.
What I’d heard (and take this with a grain of salt) is that they can’t find someone to replace her with. It’s Star Wars, and it’s a super valuable property (if handled correctly). So you don’t want to just hand it off to some rookie. But the people who are good enough to properly handle it and can be trusted not to make rookie mistakes that screw it up don’t want to be stuck with a known property like Star Wars. They want to have the freedom to play in their own sandboxes, and do their own things in front of the camera.
And so Disney is (supposedly) stuck with Kennedy until the Mouse finds a way to resolve this dilemma.
That is part of it — there is also the problem of eliminating Kennedy’s followers “root and branch.” There are so very many many ways for a film to be sabotaged that it almost a miracle anything good comes out of that sausage machine, so anybody replacing Kennedy would have to spend a tremendous amount of time watching his back, not only for Kennedy acolytes’ knives but for those of the people who don’t want the successor regime to succeed. The House of Mouse has enough money coming in even from damaged goods (they’re a lot like China that way) that they can afford to lose money.
So long as they’re only bleeding out slowly they can hope to recover or outlast their competition.
Of course, they are so dependent o their Chinese amusement parks and ticket sales that they won’t dare challenge things there.
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OK, all rumor:
Disney exec suite have basically retired KK in place, with her and her pet “writing room” out of all development for all the new Star Wars properties now in production except for some comic books. Jon Favreau is reporting directly to the new Disney CEO on The Mandalorian and all the other (10+) shows headed for Disney+, with deeper rumors that they will end up leading together, in MCU fashion, into a theatrical-grade movie.
Deeper rumor is they (Favreau, Filoni, and George Lucas) are going to use the “Veil of the Force” to retcon the last three “Rey” movies out of canon, restoring Luke as a hero and changing everything so the end of the Skywalker saga is no longer about Rey Palpatine completely destroying and erasing the legacy of the Skywalker family.
One can only hope.
Kathleen Kennedy is the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of The Mandalorian, for heaven’s sake. Seriously, this stuff is coming from the same YouTubers who said Star Trek: Discovery was cancelled during its first season, twice during its second season, before and during the third season and now are casting doubt on a fourth season several months after it started filming. They’re BS artists pandering to disaffected fans. If they get anything right it’s by accident.
I’m not getting my news from YouTubers. Kathleen Kennedy is the Executive Producer of *everything* with the Star Wars label on it, and not just The Mandalorian. But having a title and having actual authority aren’t always the same thing.
Solo lost money, ep 7 8 and 9 each made less than the prior, and the main moneymaker for the franchise, toy sales, has been approaching zero – until The Mandalorian.
KK inserted herself into the making-of vids Favreau did for Mandalorian season 1, to the point of pulling up a seat at the directed-an-ep table and spouting off out of turn, but she is conspicuously absent in the making of for the second season. And go look at this still with George Lucas, Filoni, and Favreau sitting up front on the set during season 1, and KK scowling away in the back row, and tell me again how she’s really in charge:
Unions though have to be certified by the Federal NLRB even if allowed under state law, and there is no way the Democrats who control the NLRB are going to certify a union that is formed because they oppose “friends of the program”.
I’m still hopeful that they can get away with it.
A critical race theorist is a ‘holy race war’ nutjob with very good public relations.
I have been seeing headlines about China’s Covid problems growing significantly, and in Saturday’s Wall Street Journal I note this (paywall restricted?) head & lede:
Anger at China’s Covid-19 Response Smolders in Wuhan
One year later, Beijing tries to portray pandemic’s starting point as a symbol of victory, but many residents aren’t buying it.
Snippets from the article:
When Vice Premier Sun Chunlan visited during the city’s quarantine last March to show the situation was under control, she was heckled. Some residents shouted “It’s all fake!” from their apartment windows. Anger still simmers to the point that some are willing to openly criticize the government when such candor is rare, and potentially dangerous.
“We are very angry,” said Zhang Hong, a resident who lost her father to Covid-19 in February. “We used to have a lot of faith in the government—we assumed they’d handle matters like this properly and not put us in danger.” Instead, officials initially tried to cover up the outbreak rather than confront it, she said. “Now we’re much more skeptical when it comes to trusting the government.”
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Ms. Zhang said the victory narrative now being presented by state media obscures the lethal blunders, which she accused the authorities of making in the outbreak’s early stages.
Though doctors told Ms. Zhang that Covid-19 likely killed her father, he was—like many people who died during the Wuhan outbreak—never formally diagnosed or included in the official tally of cases, she said.
The authorities recently acknowledged that the official count of 50,340 citywide cases doesn’t reflect the true scale of the Wuhan outbreak. The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in early January that its testing found Covid antibodies in 4.43% of the city’s population, putting the total number of cases Wuhan likely experienced at around half a million.
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This is third-hand hearsay from a friend of mine of similar politics, so give it whatever weight you feel it deserves, but the friend is on the spectrum and I’ve never known him to lie.
It is a scam. It was a scam designed to trap us. And we KNOW that. And people are starting to realize it. And the anger will be spectacular.
In my experience, hearsay *is* truth re: china.
If you are “reading the headline” about china, it’s propaganda. And the people in the article are very specifically telling you untrue things.
While I don’t often disagree with your points, I do have to wonder that you seem to think the keystone pipeline and fracking are good ideas. Really? You know what’s really holding us back from sustainable and renewable energy, for probably something like a hundred years? Big corporations, like the oil industry. You know we could have had renewable fuel for cars for ages? Henry Ford had begun manufacturing cars that ran on hemp fuel… That is until the greedy oil industry bribed government to ban hemp fuel. At the same time, the tobacco and alcohol industries joined the oil industry efforts to ban all hemp and cannabis. We can’t have a cheap alternative, now can we? We don’t need fracking and risky pipelines. Hemp takes about 3 months to grow, meaning regular harvests that don’t have to be damaging to the environment. Solar, wind, etc are also options. Electric cars are finally becoming more common. My partner and I are in an e-car sharing co-op in our rural German village. The e-cars take only minutes to fully charge, they drive fast enough, like any practical car (not a sports car). E-car charging stations are popping up all over the place. All that needs to happen to make it realistic for people to make the switch, is for e-cars to be made more affordable for middle and lower income classes. Why can’t conservatives get it through their heads that you can be conservative and still support clean energy and take better care of our planet? And why can’t progressives get it through their thick heads that we also belong to this world, and we can live in nature, not separate from it. They’d see us all rounded up in residential zones and nature blocked off to humans. Alienating us from nature even more won’t make anything better. Getting out into the wilderness, learning bushcraft and loving this world is what will lead us to make better choices.
Energy cost whether in dollars, lives, or pollution, is a direct function of energy density. At the moment the densest source of energy the powers that be are allowing us to use is oil. Replacing a reasonably high density source with any combination of very low density sources is a bad idea. Doing it for the purpose of reducing costs is absolute madness.
Now if you were to suggest replacing oil with fission reactors, that would be a good trade.
And we should.
Long past time to flip their script on them and ram it where the sun don’t shine.
The Science is Settled. If you aren’t supporting Nuclear Power you don’t care about the environment and you want people to die so the lobbyists can line their pockets.
Aye, “All those miracles that fusion could bring about? Fission can do almost all of them already. And the waste issue wouldn’t be one with proper recycling. Dangerous? Not nearly as dangerous as the nerve agents we used to stockpile.”
> Henry Ford had begun manufacturing cars that ran on hemp fuel…
You can run an internal combustion engine on almost anything that will burn. Rudolf Diesel’s original engines ran on crushed coal dust.
However, just because you *can*, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. And things are a lot more complicated than Henry’s day; you have fuel economy and emissions laws, distribution chains, and a vast amount of regulatory overhead, and some fuels are either corrosive or build up deposits, which can substantially increase maintenance costs, shorten effective lifetime, or both.
> Why can’t conservatives get it through their heads that you can be conservative and still support clean energy and take better care of our planet?
We like the idea fine. But the only practical path toward that is atomic power, and that’s something the “environment” lobby seems to hate with a pulsating passion.
Pointing out that nuclear power is one of the best forms of “Green Energy” makes them practically glow with rage.
I’ll see myself out.
{standing ovation}
I don’t know all about the technical details. But I do know biofuels are commonly used here in Germany, including for cars. Though there are some car models which shouldn’t run on the biofuels.
Again, TRX’s statement here about good or bad ideas involves study of the details at the engineering level.
The German government may spend a lot of money building a Potemkin village that is a really bad idea at the engineering level. A lot of governments have put a lot of money into these frauds.
I am not persuaded by what the German government does, and manages to conceal from German residents. I think the Germans are barbarians. The argument of “look at what the Chinese are doing to the Uighers. We should do that to the blacks and the Mexicans.” is as persuasive as the argument ‘this is happening in Germany’.
They want to build a neo feudal society….
I got your renewable green energy right here …
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You probably know just how right you are.
I was stationed in Stuttgart from 1985-89. The environmental insanity included turning your car off at lights if they lasted longer than… 30 (?) seconds. Even in the dead of winter. Then blasting them back on when the light turned yellow so you were ready for the green.
Oh, and the tax to even get and operate a vehicle? Don’t ask. Cost of petrol? I had a ration book for gasoline it was so bad.
Biofuels!
Starve the POOR. It’s good for them. Let’s burn food.
You know what your ecar runs on? COAL. Ultimately.
You don’t know ANYTHING but the fucking propaganda you were taught.
I’m tired of Europeans thinking they’re superior while acting like indoctrinated sheep.
In the spirit of Proper Pedanticness, this can in theory make sense.
Because a fixed power plant optimized for efficiency can get a lot more out of its fuel than a mobile power plant that has to worry about things like power to weight ratio and has a very limited cold sink.
But when we are talking fixed coal vs mobile oil any theoretical gains are gobbled up wholesale by transmission losses, and conversion losses, and battery losses, and probably a few dozen other losses I’ve forgotten about.
In the immortal words of Jayne Cobb: “I’m smelling a lot of ‘if’ coming off this plan”.
A quarter of Germany’s “renewable” energy is generating BY BURNING WOOD.
Somehow they call this “carbon neutral”, but it sounds a lot like the “what did socialists use for light before candles” joke.
(Wood, fer chrissakes. [shakes head])
And they are still openly talking about moving to a rationing system because there is not enough electricity generated and the grid is too unstable.
It’s not about CO2 free energy (if it was they would be racing to build nuclear plants); its about artificially creating scarcity so they can justify rationing, because the goal is totalitarian control, not energy production.
Oddly, I haven’t heard anything talk about rationing. Where did you see this?
Oops, typo should say any talk
THIS.
Well, takes one to know one. And I’m not European. There are so many power sources in Germany. I’m not pretending to know what’s best, right or most cost efficient. But there is wind, solar, nuclear, coal I’d expect, water, biofuels. So, again, why not drive an e-car if it’s possible? Is it really such a bad thing in and of itself? Arguments for what sources of energy is one thing, but what’s your beef against e-cars? To say it makes no difference, ok, but still not an argument against. Only a reason to have a neutral stance at best… Or am I missing something?
German power sources. ((snicker))
You guys can be thrown into a major blackout by Gazprom getting tetchy (as happened in IIRC 2012) because your domestic production is so low.
Fine by me. My boyfriend and I are used to going without electricity. We can rough it pretty well, even with babies and using cloth diapers, washing everything by hand, cooking over fire, pumping water, and so on. Country folk can handle such things. It’s the city people who will struggle most.
And how about those of us who would prefer that we don’t have to throw a refrigerator full of food in the garbage every few weeks because The State decided we didn’t need electricity for a day or three? They’re doing that in Kalifornia EVERY YEAR! and it will only get worse if the Leftroids have their way.
THIS.
Here in New Hampshire most people seem to have backup generators because the power goes out at least a couple of times a year for a few hours to a few days. But it being California, I suppose those generators are probably illegal. Not to mention impossible if you live in a multi-family building. And you need to pay an electrician to install the switches.
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We just had that discussion last night. “If we had a bigger problem it’s be worth it to tie a generator big enough for fridge, freezer, and at least heat fans, in case of power outages.” We have a small generator we can run the fridge and freezer off of, because we had it for the RV trailer to recharge batteries (ish, really not powerful enough to charge to full capacity in short time).
Unless we get into rolling blackouts al la California, looking at a generator and conversion isn’t needed. If it gets that bad, might seriously look at solar (depending on when blackouts are happening and why). We are in the Willamette Valley, so power outages NH style can happen, once every 5 years, sometimes every year (’17 ice, ’18 snow, nothing since) for maybe 20 to 48 hours … granted some substation areas were out for weeks, and it wasn’t necessarily outlying areas. (Trees across power lines. Vehicles skidding into substations. Accidents.) Didn’t this last summer, but possible to lose power because loss of transmission lines from dams due to wildfire too.
But California, home of the lefties? Tough it out for a little while, and all your political opponents will literally defeat themselves! Lol!
So you are ok with the cities starving? Generalized poverty is what you get when energy becomes unreliable, and mass starvation is what happens when it goes away.
Personally, I’m ok with Germany freezing in the dark. I wonder if you are?
Nah, not really. But sometimes I think we’d all be lying to ourselves if we said we don’t sometimes think the world would be better off without some of the masses in the world. The weak would starve, while the strong survive. And I’d be lying if I said that I generally love the German people. What I’d really like is to see all people rise to their fullest and highest potential, and to see all of our collective struggles solved peacefully without compromising our freedom and integrity. But that’s a very unlikely fantasy.
The weak would starve while the strong survive, eh? Improving the race, as it were?
How very Progressive of you
No, because I unlike the progressives, I wouldn’t actually do something like that. And please, I see comments like that on this blog all the time about how great it would be to cut off everyone in leftist states and cities and watch them fall into ruin. What do you think they mean by that? Food shortages when rural conservative communities cut off the food supply, failing infrastructure, rising poverty. But no one complains about those comments. It’s not like only political opponents live in those places. Most, maybe, but not all. My point was we all have a dark side that, if we’re honest with ourselves and others, might not be too sorry if certain people just died. The question is are you willing to act on such dark thoughts? I’m not.
“But sometimes I think we’d all be lying to ourselves if we said we don’t sometimes think the world would be better off without some of the masses in the world.”
To the extent you think this, you’re a barbarian.
No. If I thought the world would be better without people, I’d have the courage of my convictions and off myself first.
I DO wish so many humans hadn’t been brainwashed into bizarre anti-human positions.
Whatever you say. I hope since you’re judging that you are the perfect example of the ideal human being. Although nothing you’ve said to me so far gives me that impression. There is so much hatefulness in your “tone” to indicate that you probably have a mental list of the people you wish would die. I don’t. Even if I believe someone is truly evil… The worst I wish for is for them to lose power and influence over others, or maybe get put behind bars. Unless they’re a child abuser/murderer. I have zero sympathy for such monsters. But at least I can admit to my dark side. Everyone has one, but it’s not the ones who admit it people should be worried about. It’s the ones who don’t even know they have a dark side who are the most likely to commit atrocities under extreme pressure. My army friends have all witnessed that in action, from fellow soldiers and from civilians in war torn countries. Have you ever let your rage loose on someone? Lashed out without restraint in a fight? I’m no stranger to rage, but I’ve never let it loose on a living being. Never. Not even when under attack. I fought back against the bullies, but always with restraint, always only with the intention to convince them to back off. And I’ve never really had to hurt anyone to get the point across that I wasn’t going to take a heating, and as a result I never have taken a beating. But I’ve known enough people like you, all holier than thou, the first to judge, the first to caste stones. The ones spewing vitriol while hiding behind a mask, trying to convince the world how perfect they are. So, if you think your words are gonna make me lose sleep or stir an emotional reaction in me, think again. The only reason I haven’t already stopped replying to you is my hope that deep down inside every asshole is a real human being capable of decency and kindness towards others. And maybe that’s true, but there are some people in whom I unfortunately cannot find that pureness of soul. You appear to be one of those. So, good riddance to you. I’m done wasting my effort on your toxicity.
Oh, btw, when I talk about what I’m living with, it doesn’t mean I agree with everything or think it’s the ideal system. I have plenty of criticism for Germany and her overly domesticated, spoiled citizens. And the SJW culture is only exacerbating the problems. The fact that the States seems to be moving in much the same direction is actually rather disturbing to me. The far left have hatched an agenda in recent years to infiltrate the rural US communities in order to bring them under leftwing control, btw. Though you probably already know this.
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#ditto
Only because I just responded to one of your comments. Tried not to be critical. Just took your points and commented from my position and why.
Thanks
Your chosen country started decommissioning its fission plants after Fukushima. We can therefore assume that nothing they have to say on the subject of energy production is accurate.
Nope. Their government wants new feudal socialism, and the sheep LOVE it. Until they look up and are not fed, of course.
Entropiphiles like to paint themselves as wonderful people.
Doesn’t change that they are doing genocide on the subtle plan.
The ONLY reason that biofuels are used ANYWHERE is that the government subsidizes them AND refuses to allow alternatives.
Production of biofuel has been repeatedly shown to require more energy to produce than it yields.
It is profoundly stupid, not to mention heartless, to mandate that food be converted to fuel while there is famine anywhere.
THIS.
Ok, if that’s true, then I can understand why it wouldn’t be a good idea. I can believe this of corn, since it takes longer to grow, but is that true of all plants which can be used as biofuel?
The conversion of high cellulose plants (i.e. wood- usually pine) to biofuel does indeed use more energy than you get out of the fuel. Hence why the process was abandoned after experimentation. Also, the chemicals you use to do it are pretty nasty….
I would like your comment, but my app isn’t cooperating. I see entire fields of corn being grown here just for biofuels. A lot of corn in the States goes to biofuel, too, last I heard. Never heard about pine being used.
Right now, the only other major source is sugar cane cellulose after the sugar sap is pressed out. Has the same issues as wood.
Y’all let me know when you’re done playing with this one.
I’m ignoring the bint who came to MY BLOG to lecture us and has the nerve to call me “arrogant.”
She needs what her parents never gave her. Upended and three swats on the bottom. I’ve no interest in administering it.
She claims to have been here for years, but I don’t recall ever seeing a comment.
I have a feeling there was ONE iffy comment before.
Corn is a terrible source of energy. It grows a 7-foot stalk, leaves, husk and cob to produce 4 to 6 ounces of kernels. 85% of the plant is just plowed under. It takes more oil to produce alcohol from corn than you save by burning that alcohol in a car. The only reasons corn is being used for biofuel are:
1. Stupid government regulations
2. Stupid government subsidies
The reason you’re getting so much bile here is that you’re spouting the same idiocy we hear day in and day out from the Leftroid mob. Take a little time and LEARN something about the issues before announcing that You Have The Answer, So There!
Draven was right; Kalifornia ‘environmentalists’ won’t allow construction of LARGE-SCALE solar power projects. We have to ‘protect the delicate desert ecosystem’ don’t’cha know, the one that is 99% gravel, sand and rocks. We do have small-scale solar power here. I have solar panels on my roof, as do many of my neighbors. Mine produce more power than I use; I haven’t paid an electric bill in 11 years. But the sun don’t shine at night, and small-scale solar is useless for industry. Other power sources are required.
Leftroids are rabidly opposed to nuclear power. We haven’t built a new nuclear power plant in the U.S. in 50 years, mostly because of government over-regulation and fanatical opposition from ‘environmentalists’. Lawsuits more than doubled the cost of the last reactor built in this country.
Think about WHY all those ‘obvious’ solutions are not in widespread use, something other than ‘superior technology is being suppressed by The Eeevul Corporations!’ If those technologies were viable, the Eeevul Corporations would be making vast fortunes selling them.
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Complex questions never have simple answers. Hell, most simple questions don’t have simple answers.
It’s not even that I think I have the answers. It was more about looking at options. I haven’t heard good things about corn, so I’m with you there. Not sure what it takes to make hemp oil, but what I have heard is how great it is, although I haven’t looked deeper into it. The thing is, it must be p to find better solutions. Probably not a one size fits all kind of solution. Like what you said about solar power, that it meets your needs, but not enough for industry. A friend here powers his house with solar as well. In the winter, when the sun doesn’t shine very much, his wood stove in the kitchen is used for cooking, heating and for heating the water tank. It’s a really cool system, and he’s mostly off grid with his energy needs. But he built his house himself. It wouldn’t work for every house. Still, it’s cool! I’d love to have such a system!
As for nuclear power, instead of bashing those who are opposed, how can their concerns be addressed? Assuming we’re talking about reasonable people who are genuinely interested in solutions? For me, it seems like too great a risk, despite the benefits of lots of cheap energy. Risk of accidents, risk of environmental contamination due to nuclear waste. Or even exposure to radiation from working at a nuclear power plant. Knew some people in Idaho who used to work at the nearby nuclear power plant. Cancer, tumors. So, no, I don’t trust it, and I can understand that many environmentalists feel that way.
People everywhere are so divided, and that’s not doing anyone any good. If we could listen to each other and address people’s concerns, we might actually get somewhere other than one side shoving their way up everyone else’s ass.
Oh, and if there really was a clean, cheap, renewable energy alternative, I’d expect many corporations would be against it if it meant their profits would go down. Business isn’t in the business of doing a service to people put of the goodness of their hearts. They’re in the business of making money, and while that most likely equates to a product or service people want or need, it doesn’t mean there can’t be anything better. And maybe we really aren’t there yet, but if we don’t try, we’ll never get there.
But thanks for at least being somewhat polite. Honestly, I can handle constructive criticism. Just don’t like when people act like jerks about it. If I’m wrong about something, by all means correct me. I’d rather have my beliefs challenged rather than believe a lie, not knowing it’s a lie.
I’m sorry if you’re all feeling frustrated. Seriously, you’re not the only ones. I’m also frustrated and concerned about where we’re headed (in the US, in Germany, in Europe), and knowing if I don’t like it, there’s no where else to go. So, we’re trying to get by as best we can, hoping for the best, but aware that it looks like dark times ahead. We’ve talked about moving somewhere else, but we can’t because of our children. Moving means separating 3 of the children from one of their biological parents. So, we stay for them, as much as I’d love to get them all out of here.
they also haven’t certified any new reactor designs in even longer, so every application to build a reactor is using early 1970s tech.
I would dearly *love* to see efficient cellulosic *butanol* (you can pretty much replace gasoline 1:1 with it and have no or almost no issue). Alas, cellulosic *stuff* is a tough problem and fermented butanol is also a tough problem. Mind, tough^2 is not the same as impossible, but I am not holding my breath.
Yes. Biofuel mandates are, generally speaking, a rich man’s aesthetic fantasy foisted on people who actually have to worry about fuel costs. Also a giveaway to (usually corn, but not always) lobbyists.
Generally speaking, biofuels are energy negative – producing them takes more energy than they contain.
$HOUSEMATE had a diesel (loved it, such range) but would make a point of filling up out of state whenever possible. Why? State mandate 2% biodiesel for all – and almost every every diesel mechanic was screaming, “DO NOT DO THAT!” They’re busy enough. I do try to fill up, when out of state, at places that offer no-ethanol gasoline (not the same as non-oxygenated). Why? My costs go down as my mpg goes up. And I make a point of getting true non-oxy gasoline for the snowblower. You can ask any small engine mechanic why. Expect tree-wilting profanity.
Germany is trying really hard to phase out diesels and eventually ban them. But I don’t really understand why? Why phase out diesels but normal gasoline is ok? My dad always preferred diesel for his pickup trucks. He’s driven both, but always goes back to diesel. My dad is always doing what is most practical and logical, and with his work and the farm, he’s always needed a powerful pick-up. Economical cars might be great for every day use, but not for everything. So, it makes no sense to me to ban diesels.
Simple – diesel exhaust*looks* dirty, even though in many circumstances it is a superior fuel.
“The Gasoline Automobile” (1919) is on project Gutenberg. Worth a read. For all its faults, and there are admittedly many, gasoline won for energy density and convenience. History went they way it did for a reason, and this time, the reasons were mostly sound. Now, *leaded* gasoline…
Yeah, it is totally people with junior/senior level university thermodynamics training, based in calculus, who are preventing you from peeling off your skin.
Alternative/renewable energy is an obvious crock of shit. Every sane engineer with industry experience can, if they want to, make the arguments that this is so. Excepting maybe disciplines like Civil, which do not really study thermodynamics or electricity.
Education, whether primary, secondary, non-stem tertiary, and stem tertiary is carefully and deliberately mismanaged to make students think that renewable energy is at all feasible or desirable. Once you get real world experience with energy systems, you start having the tools to see through the disinformation. If you want to. If one desperately does not want to understand, one will remain poorly educated and ignorant to one’s dying day.
Ian’s point about energy density is essentially true, but does not go far enough.
Engineering is an art of technical decisions, that takes economics and human welfare into account.
Energy, in the strict engineering sense, money, and nutritional calories in food are somewhat related, and can be looked at as proxies in some ways. If a population isn’t growing more nutritional calories as food than it takes to grow the food, it does not have a surplus to feed people who are not directly contributing profitably to the food supply chain. A population either needs to grow enough surplus to feed itself, or it is living off another population’s surplus, or it is starving.
There’s similar brutal logic that holds for money and for energy, it is just that those concepts are abstract enough that many people do not understand them well enough for the arguments to be accessible.
So, financial sense is a legitimate tool for understanding some of the hidden qualities of a choice of technique for producing, storing or distributing energy.
In practice, alternative and renewable energy are defined as those methods that make no economic sense whatsoever. If you ever dig in to the nuts and bolts of these proposals, you see that the money costs translate to a lack of profit in te