Come the Revolution


I grew up in the shadow of the cold war.  “Waiting for the hammer to fall” and “come the revolution” and other such phrases told us that a) nuclear war would happen.  b) the future was communist.

For people like me, who had actually studied the history of the countries that went fully communist, and read accounts of what was going on behind the curtain, this was not happy-making and we denied it, even though at times we weren’t sure we believed our own denial.

Remember, for those of you who are young or have really short memories, this was before the internet.

To be non-leftist was to be isolated.  Because the press had been taken over by the left long before I was born, I might know other non-leftists (though most of us called ourselves center-left to avoid outright purges) but I also knew we were an irrelevant minority.  I mean, after all the paper continuously told us that everyone was leftist, and assured us that all the honest politicians were on the left too.

The left was confident in its certainty of winning “come the revolution” because all the indications were that it would.  Everything in the news and entertainment indicated by were on the side of angels.

Meanwhile the right was also sure the left would win, thought it was a bad thing, but isolated and demoralized, all it had left was “not so fast.”

You see the remnants of this in the older congress critters, who still think the left holds the “caring” and moral high ground.

But then the revolution came, and it wasn’t what the left expected.

Not only did a real revolution happen, which toppled their model state (yeah, I remember all the lamenting when the Soviet Union fell, saying the good guys had lost) but at the same time a revolution in mass communication happened, which made their domination of the traditional media if not irrelevant, at least far less relevant than it once was.

And little by little, their Mass Media control becomes worth less and less.  As Trump’s election proved, not only have they lost control, they do not have any idea how to regain it.

Recently, their go to trick is to accuse all of their opponents of white supremacy or white nationalism.  This is of course the unforgivable sin, because associated with the Nazis.  it’s also, to put it mildly, zany, in a country like modern America.

At one time it might have been possible for anyone who had a low-level of tan to claim they were pure white or some such nonsense, but in a country where everyone and their dog takes genetic tests for ancestry, we’ve come to realize very few people are “pure” anything.  And we care about it even less.

Sure there are nativist political theories.  They permeate most of Europe, often coupled with a surprising degree of socialism and state control.  This makes a certain sense, in Europe.  In the US most of the people who attach an undue amount of importance to race are either sad dinosaurs who have nothing else to be proud of than the lack or excess of melanin they were born with, or leftists hoping that dividing will allow them conquer.  (Oh, or Russians.  At least in this blog most people who came to proclaim the superiority of the white race, etc, had a Russian IP.  So, we do at least know what the Russians really were doing, and it hinges as most things they do on a fundamental misunderstanding of the US.)

In the US, nativist/white supremacist theories are not a thing on the right.  Most of us on the right want individuals to do the best they can, and are willing to cheer on anyone of any color, including chartreuse, who wants to live as a free American.

The left doesn’t understand that.  Their theory of life, politics and everything requires that those who oppose them be nationalist — since they fancy themselves internationalists.  They’re not.  The internationalism of the left was only really Russian nationalism — and — since the left has substituted the working class with the third world, because the working class proved to want the benefits of capitalism — white supremacists.

Because the left is caught in a feedback loop where they really can’t do anything but pretend that everything still is going accord to the plan and do more of what failed to try to get to the great socialist utopia, they must also pretend that they’re fighting Nazis.

When the whole outright “punch a Nazi” failed, because everyone can see that there are no Nazis (only some sad Live Action Reich Players) they switched to calling their opponents Nazis by any other name, as in White Supremacist and White Nationalist.

This is just as deranged, of course, as calling people Nazis.  Sure, you might get away with it at first, because after all thoughts are harder to prove or disprove than the fact you’re not part of Hitler’s army.  But at this point I’ve heard people called white nationalists for saying poor people can cook.  Or for saying they believe in the constitution.  Which means we’re well into the territory of “a reasonable man wouldn’t accept this.”  In fact, we’re well into the territory of “A reasonable man would laugh so hard he’d hurt himself.”

But that’s all the left has.  They can’t point to their great successes in making nations happy and prosperous.  (Why, the happy people of Brutopia Venezuela can have all the flamingo they can eat.  The happy people of Brutopia Cuba can prostitute themselves to tourists for money.  The happy people of Brutopia North Korea live in complete darkness which we can is in night pictures of the world.)  They can’t point to their moral superiority, not now, when we know what their politicians are up to.  They can’t point to the certainty of their winning because… well, things haven’t been going so well for them.

All they can do is in fact attack, attack, attack and demonize their opponents.

All they can do is create tragedies and exploit them.

It’s going to get very rough.  Right now I know people in fear for their jobs.  I know students who are being threatened if they don’t join the “March for our lives” communist agitprop  demonstration.  In fact I suspect in the march itself, children will get shot at, and heaven help us if one of the useful idiots teachers leading this children’s crusade is pregnant, because she will get shot too.  How do I know this?  Because in every leftist organized demonstration/unrest, the pregnant woman gets shot, even if they have to shoot her themselves, while blaming the right.

It’s going to get very very bad.  The people who spend their lives in the beatific hope that “come the revolution” they’d be on top, are getting old, and they haven’t got their shiny red wagon.  In fact, it’s becoming obvious they never will.

They’re going to try to grab for the silver ring rattle as hard as they can.  It might even mean the cold civil war goes hot.

Or it might mean they finally become so obviously despicable, even to the uninvolved spectators that their little empire falls as bloodlessly as their beloved Soviet Union did.

I’m not by nature an optimist.  But I’ve seen miracles in my life.  We might get lucky.  Or we might have to walk through hell to win.

The only thing I know is that in the end we win, they lose.  Be not afraid.

The wounded bear is dangerous, but it is wounded.  It will not rise again.

554 thoughts on “Come the Revolution

            1. Try being in computers. I think it’s all acronyms. Entire conversations held in them at times.

              I agree, I hate DST.

              1. Two computer programmers. One reels off a sentence that’s half acronyms, and then exclaimed, “Did you hear what I just said?”

                “What’s worse,” said the other, “I understood it.”

              2. Yes. Computers, hardware & software, acronym city. Or government. Try writing software for governmental cost & payment systems. Oh well retired now.

                Though I got a kick out of an obedience class I had my pup in. Everyone were short cutting the spelling of commands when they didn’t want their pup to actually perform the command (some of the pups knew what S.I.T. meant). Someone on the outside snidely asked – “Sounds official, what does DWN stand for?” We’d just all grin & say “down” & 8 butts & bellies would plop down.

                1. The most amusing one was, a while back, People Can’t Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms for those (now considered bulky!) slim cards to add function/features to laptops.

                2. One of my dogs felt Strongly about walks. By the end of his life he had learned not only “walk” and W-A-L-K” but also “stroll”, “amble”, “perambulation” and *little wiggly-finger walking motion*. From context; we never used them while talking TO the dog.

            1. Raise your eyebrow all you want. Has it not become a Darkship Tradition to indulge in Darkship Teasing around here?

        1. Pedant mode on:

          It’s not Daylight SavingS Time, It’s Daylight Saving Time

          Oh, and c4c.

          1. We were taught “savingS” in school… looking it up online, it looks like various sources agree with you.

            A lot of the strange stuff people come up with, it’s because someone’s tax money was used to teach them that.

            They tried to teach me that John Glenn was the first man in space, and the Pilgrims discovered America, but by that time I could read for myself and already knew better. Oh, and something it took a couple of decades to unlearn, that “zero is not a number.”

            1. I would guess it’s tied to “daylight saving’s starts this weekend” or similar.

              Similar one for Catholics: it’s prayers of the faithful, and the response is oh Lord hear our prayer. Singular. Not “prayers.”


              1. IIRC, the local parish Monsignor uses “hear our prayer” for the communal intercessions – “world peace,” “sustaining the Holy Father,” etc. Then “hear our prayers” for the conclusion – the individual, unvoiced desires.

            2. If you want to be REALLY technical, Glenn was the first man to orbit the Earth. Gargarin ejected from his capsule before landing.

              (The Vostok capsule was a modified recon satellite, the parachute system was not adequate for a safe landing with the cosmonaut in the capsule)

  1. “Come the revolution, we’ll all drive Rolls Royces”
    “But I don’t want to drive a Rolls Royce”
    “Come the revolution, you’ll do as your damn well told”

    A late 1970s series of graffiti in the UK

    The big problem the left have today is that just as they consolidated their grasp on the media, the Internet showed up and, despite them trying the same with Facebook/Google/Twatter etc. people can get alternative points of view easily these days

    1. Just have to watch where they’re talking in the Internet. Too many places (ahem, FB, twit, etc) will try to impose filters against right of center discussions or ideology.

      1. According to the kids, those are not where the young folks gather to sensibly talk about politics. I could tell you, but should I?

        You should play more Starcraft II, I think. More Starcraft II will improve your opinions of the kids these days.

        Actually, the kids are isolated at schools quite effectively. Disagreeing with orthodoxy is a good way to get bad grades and Ruin Your Life (by not getting into the right college). So the kids have some idea. I don’t think anyone really knows what’s up with the kids. How many parrot the lies knowing they’re lies to get good grades (my spies say the girls), how many parrot the lies to get laid (my spies say the boys-or at least to first base), how many actually believe the lies . . . I bet if you look at the current Children’s Crusade, you’ll find a bunch are there to get out of school, not because they believe anything. Not that it’ll end any better than their namesake, but they don’t know history except for what they learned from video games.

        1. I’ve said for a while that we are building a generation of perfect intelligence agents, by forcing kids to so convincingly dissemble that they stay under the adult-radar in public schooling.

          The youngins I have direct interaction with are pretty together. The only issue is the weird little corners of “knowledge” they may have absorbed that they never thought through enough to challenge, but those corners get cleaned out one by one when found by their long practice of calling BS on stuff they were taught.

          1. Bingo! I keep reading that ‘such and such is popular (unpopular) with teens’, amd I think “how do you know.”. They say smoking is down…doesn’ look like it to me, based on the teens I see. Based on non-scientific observation, smoking among teens hit bottom in the late 1970’s and has climbed back since. What I suspect IS down is teens credulous enough to answer Authority truthfully when a truthful answer could get them in trouble…even if they have been assured that ‘all answers are confidential’. I used to talk regularly to a handful of recent high school grads from a variety of schools and every single one of them could remember an incident where supposedly confidential answers had not been held in confidence. Most could remember several.

        2. True. I listen, well, watch actually, lots of political discussions (i.e. rants and diatribes) on WoW and EQ2.

        3. Well that’s… interesting.

          Not entirely unexpected, mind you – IIRC there was some discussion of using games for covert communications, since there is just too much to monitor.

          1. Well, that explains the presentation at the convention last spring about how gamers talk so offensively during games. And why it kept phasing over from the presenter talking about offensive trash talk, into talking about offensive something-not-defined.

            God forbid the chilluns actually discuss politics, instead of mouthing talking points and swarming the unbelievers.

            1. It was freaking hilarious to watch tradechat in WoW– there’s always been the same obnoxious lefties.

              They were getting both dog-piled and argued circles around by pro-Trumpers, who were backed up by the same few rational voices who would always gut the bad arguments.

              There weren’t enough to dog-pile the rational, like there usually are; you could tell some of the “pro-trump” were just being obnoxious, but not even most.

              The “gamergate” fainting spell has not had the desired results. ^.^

              1. I do kind of miss WoW. It was interesting. The last expansion pretty much killed my desire to play and the next expansion looks to be increasing the PvP focus.

                Gamergate seems to have had the opposite effect from what was intended, most of them seem to have gotten ‘woke’ to the Leftist BS thanks to that debacle. Bioware even caught a lot of grief for having Anita what’shername come on site to help with the latest game.

                1. They attacked a lot of folks’ Last Safe Place…and did it without their usual advantage.

                  They can’t actually destroy your life, unless they know who you are.

                  1. Not only that, but the SJWs leveled their usual name-calling barrage… against people who essentially do nothing but name-call each other ALL DAY LONG.

                    Oh, THAT will learn ’em!

                    1. Yeah, and now they ‘survived’ GamerGate.

                      Bahahahahahahahahahahaha – survived what, exactly? Their endless faking of ‘threats of violence’ against them? AGG are hilarious wannabe posers, who want the cred of ‘survivor’ without having ever stepped even into a virtual warzone.

            2. Though to be fair, some people do just spam short hateful messages in the chat sessions in some games, neither trash-talking at their opponents nor discussing politics.

            3. IIRC, a study conducted a few years ago (about a year after Gamergate started, iirc) determined that yeah, there’s a lot of misogynist chatter from men toward women on-line. But the really nasty misogynist chatter is usually women toward other women.

              In other words, men have quantity, and women have quality.

    2. If come the revolution we all drive Rolls Royces, I fear that come the revolution we will find that Rolls Royces will perform no better than a Yogo.

      1. Hey, the Yugo was based on a real (if lame) Fiat. I think the go-to target for the revolution would be the Trabant. Bad design plus poor materials plus socialist excellence in labor FTW!

            1. And not some fancy-schmancy multi-gear modern bicycle, but something someone from the turn of the 20th century might look at and go “man, what a primitive piece of trash”.

                  1. Considering I’m the son and grandson of two guys that could build and repair anything made in the last 150 years and learned everything practical that I know about machinery from them, not a problem. Add to the fact that I actually stayed awake and enjoyed math and physics in high school, and knew more than the shop teacher; bicycle gearing isn’t a problem.

                    Fact is, I still feel like a midget compared to those two men.

              1. At one point on Kwajalein, the P/BX-equivalent carried some Chinese-made single-speed bicycles for $10.00. We called ’em ‘dollar-a-day’ bikes because of how quickly they failed under our climatic conditions. Cheap, non-CR steel and minuscule spot welding do not stand up well to a moist, salt-laden environment.

                ‘Course on Kwaj. the highest naturally-occurring point on the island was six feet above sea level at high tide so multi-speed wasn’t really necessary. Was nice to help get started when laden with a buncha SCUBA or fishing gear or while pedaling upwind, but not *necessary*.

          1. Ahh yes the Trabant. A value subtracting product in that the steel, rubber, glass and other components that went into it were worth more than the price of the end product

        1. Right Italian engineering (FIAT aka Fix It Again Tony) assembled by Yugoslav workers who followed the traditional socialist work ethic of “You pretend to pay us and we pretend to work”. That was definitely going to go well. The Trabants were merely ancient technology (2 cycle 3 cylinder engines) and so polluted like mad even when compared to a 1940’s VW beetle. Of course by the late 70’s US makers were giving the Yugo a run for its money on the dependability front…

          1. The Spouse read this little book written about working in a Hungarian tractor factory under the communist government, Worker in a Worker’s State by Miklos Haraszti.  It was not uncommon for there to be a pronouncement from on high to increase the number of units produced on the work shift.  Never mind that it took a certain amount of time to tighten up all the screws and nuts properly — the workers had no choice but fail to do so in order to meet the quota. If the tractor failed down the line that would be someone else’s problem.

            (I believe there is a delightful Don Camillo story detailing the arrival in the town of a Soviet built tractor…)

              1. Ooohhhh! I’ve read that book! Terrific exploration of what happens when the Workers control the means of production (emphasis on mean.)

                The author goes into detail over the safety precautions eschewed in the drive to maintain productivity at a level consistent with making a living; things like using only two clamps instead of four because of the time saved by not having to tighten and release the extra clamps. So what if the part being milled shimmies more and comes out less perfect — you can’t produce the day’s quotas by slavishly adhering to the design protocols. And if running the milling machines at twice the specified speed produces more brittle parts and wears out the lathes more quickly, well, that isn’t the assembly line worker’s problem.

                BTW – I recently learned the Don Camillo stories had been adapted for film (circa 1+951) and television (in the Eighties, IIRC) — any idea if the results were faithful to the books?

          1. The jazz clarinetist Jim Snyder wanted to get a Yugo and swap in a rally prepped Fiat and go IROC hunting. iirc the race motor, tranny, suspension, and car would cost a bit over $5000 when the car came out. Jimbo was an odd duck.

      2. Secretly, I’ve always wanted to take a Yugo, scrap all the running parts, and rebuild it using a reliable, economical engine/drivetrain/etc. Because it would tickle me to run around in one of those goofy little cars, but I don’t want to have to deal with reliability issues.

        I’ll probably never actually do it, because it would end up costing as much as just buying a new, reliable car. Especially since I’ve come to really like my current car and I can’t imagine being able to make a Yugo as comfortable and nice as what I currently drive. I’m getting older and much less tolerant of discomfort. When I was younger, I drove an old beaten-down VW Bus (actually I’ve had two of them). I can’t imagine driving one of those again, especially down here in Florida (No AC in a Bus, and I can’t live without AC in the summer anymore).

        1. To see how the Europeans think the masses should live, view the class of vehicles produced by European auto manufacturers termed ‘City Cars’ – the tiny deathtrap crackerboxes approximate Trabants and Yugos in size, but with western-level fit and finish – see the Fiat 500 as an example. The penultimate version of these are the tiny electric cars like the BMW i3, which fulfills the EuroIntellectual concept of “If they must have a car, this should certainly be enough for them – and it’s electric, so the plebes won’t have too much range.”

          In fact, compare and contrast these tiny cars to what actually sells in China – basically, de-safety-featured small American cars (so they are cheap). Buying something labeled “Chevrolet” is seen as a prestigious purchase, and one of the top brands is “Buick”. But the Chinese market is not buying those micro-cars that the Euroweenies want to be the “car for the masses”.

          1. I will add the caveat that removing the safety features makes those cars death traps—the videos of the horrified faces of German engineers running crash tests on Chinese cars attempting to enter the European markets is pretty telling.

                1. We call them street-legal golf carts. And the running joke is “Smart car, stupid driver.”

                  When we were in Miami, taking a GMC Savana 3500 van crammed full of merchandise to Florida Supercon, we had a Smart car cut in on us right in front of the bumper, right on Biscayne Boulevard (US 1). If he’d slammed on his brakes after that maneuver, there was no way in this world I’d be able to get the van stopped in time to keep from crunching him flat.

                  1. Reminds me of the Crosby joke & VW Beatle Bugs. Having a semi fly by on the interstate, both directions, & the car bouncing from lane to lane without the driver moving the wheel (okay he does it better). The smart cars look worse. Mostly end up driving our pickup around town, because hubby drives further & thus has the car. I despise the Smartcars. I can barely see some regular cars behind me between the tail gate & the canopy. Smartcars? Forget it. They had better watch for me, because I sure am not going to see them; period.

                    1. If one were to run over a smartcar/citycar in one’s Tahoe, one might not even notice.

                      Coworker’s wife had a dodgem event on a local freeway when a pallet jack escaped containment out of a panel truck in front of her in the fast lane, traffic prevented a lane change to the right, and the semi behind her prevented aggressive braking. She zigged off into the tiny dirt median and ended up swapping ends when the semi behind whacked into her Tahoe. Ended up still upright, shaken not stirred, with the Tahoe totaled.

                      Coworker went out and bought a full-size SUV as a replacement that same week, because Mass Matters – if his wife had been in anything smaller, they would have been pressure washing her off the front of that semi.

                    2. Honda has apparently been appreciating the virtues of steel. From a WSJ review:

                      2018 Honda Accord: The Sedan You’ll Want Instead of a Crossover
                      I HAVE LEARNED over the years that not everyone shares my fascination with engineering minutiae. My wife, for example, will gaze into the mid-distance with a bemused, Melania-like smile until I stop talking. Anyhoo…

                      In particular, my observations of aluminum versus steel vehicle construction have been known to clear a room. Yet I cannot resist on the occasion of the redesigned 2018 Honda Accord, an ordinary car made extraordinary thanks to clever body engineering and some of the world’s smartest steel.


                      In the day-one scrum for the new Accord, the design team made two right calls: ditch the V6 engine option and completely redraft the unit-body with high-grade steels.


                      Toyota also redesigned and relaunched its family sedan last year with similar intentions. But the Accord wins this round decisively, thanks to its bone-deep redesign, already discussed; its more efficient packaging; and the delights of ultra-high-strength steel, or UHSS, which suss out as things like increased body rigidity (+32%, says Honda), improved handling and noise attenuation.

                      Consider that, in exterior dimensions, the two cars are virtually the same size. Inside, however, the Honda encloses more interior space (105.6 to 100.4 cubic feet); 2.4 inches more rear seat legroom (a lot, as these things are measured); and a bigger trunk (16.7 to 15.1 cubic feet).

                      Where is all this space coming from? This is the part where I get really excited about steel and my wife smiles placidly, picturing Nigerian Dwarf goats. The thing about body engineering is, the harder the steel (that is, the higher its tensile strength) the thinner the parts can be to carry the same load, generally speaking. The Accord unit-body comprises 29% of UHSS. About half that (the A and B pillars and the side rails) are hot-stamped UHSS with a tensile strength of 1,500 megapascals. For comparison, rail steel is about 880 MPs.

                      Why should you possibly care? Look at the Accord’s A pillars, the roof supports on either side of the windshield. Notice how thin they are! A-pillars have been a problem zone for car designers since the advent of rollover standards. The thicker these pillars get the more they obstruct drivers’ outward views. This is particularly irritating in a fast car, like a Lamborghini, on a tight, twisty road where the hairpins play peekaboo behind the A-pillars.

                      The A-pillars on the Accord are 20% thinner than before, increasing driver’s sightlines by 7.9 degrees. I’ll take it. And it is the same fineness of bone that translates to the increased space within the envelope. Meanwhile, the Accord aces US NCAP crash standards, because steel.

                      Practically all cars, even aluminum-bodied and carbon-fiber ones, use some portion of UHSS. How much is a matter of money, the cost to build. The Accord’s steeliness is of a piece with other investments that are in effect doubling down on sedan virtues. Cabin noise and refinement, for instance: The Accord’s body is now thoroughly wadded with sound-deadening panels and foam; active noise cancellation, a la Bose headphones, is standard. Touring models get noise-reducing wheels.

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                    3. Can’t remember what type of Ford SUV it was, but my husband had a similar “size matters” situation– involving being between two simis with the back one was rear ended by at least one other simi.

                      EVERYTHING that wasn’t the seating area was crunched.

                      And that is why we got rid of my darling little neon when we got married…. he COULD ride in it, but it got tiring to have tension radiating off of him for 600 miles!

                    4. My daughter had the same experience with her dear little red Mitsubishi coupe. It got totaled on a off-ramp of the IH35 in a collision with a pickup truck. Her next car – and the only one she didn’t feel jittery in – was a Montero Sport. Although she does drive my Accura Legend 4-door without any quiver, even though it is compact and low to the ground. (Prefers it in rainy weather, as the roll-over possibilities are almost nonexistent.)

                    5. Not a semi VS car but size matters vs large tree. Only the 4-door sedan was a 1965 Chevy Impala. Speed not a factor, but physics was (hydroplane water & oil on highway corner, over correction, @ 22 mph, & yes, hit the breaks-oops), went spinning into large oak tree, hitting on the support pillar behind driver, driving the door & frame over the back seat (and over the German Shepard sheltered there); small hard suitcase, from other side went flying out crushed window, over dog, & directly behind me. Shaken & bruised. Totaled car & tree. Police said without lap belt would have been seriously injured, was luck that suitcase missed both of us, was good dog was trained to be on floor or she would have been thrown out (likely killed). Newer (ish) smaller car, would have killed her, seriously hurt or killed me. This was 45 years ago. Also was used by most the neighbors as an example of “this can happen even if you do everything right!” (well up until I hit the breaks … hey it was “don’t hit the breaks stupid” … too late).

                2. I just start whistling circus music every time I see one, and mental images of hordes of clowns (the funny kind not the creepy kind) piling out of them crowd into my brain. My husband and I have taken to calling them ‘clown cars’ because they’re not even big enough to count as rollerskates.

            1. I really want to take a sledgehammer to one of those on video and see how long it takes to totally dismantle it 🙂

              The only car on the road that I figure I could run into on my motorcycle and probably come out ahead. (For values of coming out ‘ahead’ in a motorcycle wreck).

              1. My husband calls them pregnant rollerskates. I occasionally see one on the highway, and it always scares the +÷%€$€ out of me; I can’t imagine they have the pickup to deal with a semi gaining on them going uphill.

                Some years back a blogger described seeing one in the parking lot at Target after the owner had left their Newfoundland alone in it while shopping. To quote her young child: “Bear eat car!”

                1. At one point I was crossing Snoqualmie pass in a blizzard, and had one pass me on the right– there were three lanes to the left*, and the right lane was half filled with slush– like I was standing still. It’s a 75mph zone, I think I was doing 50, and the only other people passing at all were the ones with chains who were doing about 60. I thought that it was freaking slush from a snow plow in my rear view, because who would be that stupid?!?!

                  * to be fair, those mostly had people in them, too. Trick to Snoqualmie is to get as far right as you can, put cruse control on at the speed limit, and you can pass the trucks without touching your brakes while folks yoyo in the fast lane.

          2. Credit where it’s due…I had a Fiat 500 as a rental car for two weeks. It wasn’t that bad. Made efficient use of the available space, performance was adequate. I liked it a hell of a lot more than a Camaro I had as a rental…AKA the Head-Smasher, suitable only for drivers standing less than 5’6″.

            1. I think the all-time worst rental was the Mercury Bobcat; a Pinto with fake wood trim inside.
              The most underpowered was a Datsun I rented around 1980. With 3 people on board, I had to turn off the A/C to maintain highway speeds on the “huge” hills of northern Indiana. (Yes, there are hills; never noticed them in any other car, though.)

              1. I can beat that, although I don’t remember the model of the car!

                I paid extra for a mid-sized vehicle, specifically one that could take three normal sized carseats. (We actually have as narrow of car seats as you can get, but I was playing it safe.)

                What I got was one where one of the car seats was six inches away from the seat, and they were still pressing up against the doors. And Washington made it illegal for a kid to ride up front before they are 13.

                1. Some damfool backed into my pickup truck while going through the oil change bit (The change people had his contact information. He didn’t notice, or so he said when Officer Friendly paid him a visit). I reserved a 4WD SUV from Enterprise, this being mid winter, and living in an area self-regarded as 3 miles past the end of the world. (We have T-shirts!) On a bad day, I need 4 wheel drive, studded snow tires and a running start to get a vehicle in the garage. That’s not exaggeration.

                  When I was dropped off at Enterprise, no vehicles were on hand. When they finally got something a few hours later, it was a Pontiac sedan. Hobson’s choice. Mercifully, it didn’t snow those days, but Enterprise got scratched off the vendor list. (Now, it’s moot; we have more than one vehicle capable of dealing with fimbulwinter.)

                  1. I once drove an old convertible as a loaner. Young man with a convertible: Yay! Then I discovered that you had to force the top to let up, it wouldn’t seal around the windshield, which might have been good because the exhaust leaked fumes, and the steering felt worn out.

                    1. A significant number of convertibles have those problems. This is why such a big deal was made in tne 80s when the Mustang convertible tops actually fit and didn’t leak.

                    2. I’ll confess to owning two British roadsters. The first was an 8 year old MGB in an advanced state of decrapitude with some interesting rust problems. About 10 years later I bought a Triumph TR3A, and it was frequently drivable, though I considered it my 30 mile car, the limit I was willing to have it towed. Never needed a tow, but it confirmed that the second happiest day in the life with a British sportscar is the day you sell it.

                      The MGB eventually sported a fiberglass top, though it was fun to drive in the summer sunshine. As long as it wasn’t too hot. The footwell was alongside the engine and an 85 degree day meant for a hotfoot on a slow commute. Never had a top for the Triumph.

          3. I’ve rented a number of small Korean cars, and have been rather impressed with… everything.

                1. Ditto. Love our 2015 Sonota (especially love the default warranty). We also have a 2004 Elantra (one of the first ones off the boat in 2003). Hubby put 46,000 miles on it in 17 months. Kid has had it for the last 13 years, total current mileage sits between 106,000 & 107,000 miles. Basic maintenance & couple minor fixes. Cosmetically not doing as great. Especially the small dents caused by the Giant Sequoia cones (visualize small hard golf balls being dropped by squirrels from 10 to 60 feet high). Though to be honest, not many other car types do any better. Hey if the parents want to use our street for school parking, they take their cone chances. (or rather took, trees are down now due to the 2017 ice storms).

              1. We’ve bought two.

                The only problem we ever had was when the oil change place couldn’t figure out how to put the plug back in correctly, and it came out. On the highway. In the mountains. Going 60…..

                (No damage done, I pulled over before any lights came on because I’m paranoid as heck. Impressive puddle of oil, though!)

                1. Whoa. Way back in the days of the POSmobile (late 80s Mercury sedan), we had it die just outside Laramie, and we couldn’t figure out the issue. The tow truck took us to the one place in town that was open (it was Labor Day) and it turned out we had a slow leak in the oil pan—but the engine had a safety where it would just turn itself off if it detected low oil. Without turning on the oil light, mind you.

                  We appreciated the safety, but wished we’d known about it. Got plenty of oil there, and checked it for the rest of the trip. (And the lifespan of the car, which died a smoky death a year or two later.)

        2. My folks had a Champagne edition VW bus in the mid 70’s that came with factory air conditioning. Since we lived on Sanibel at the time they considered it a necessity. It actually handled pretty well.

          1. Yes, my first bus (a mostly gutted ’72 camper) had the AC unit built into the roof, but it didn’t work. Back then, I didn’t have the money to even bother getting an estimate to get it fixed but I don’t expect it would have been cheap (if even possible at all). There are also those swamp coolers that look like funky rocket pods that hang on the window, but those would probably be (mostly) useless here in WET Florida.

            Still, the AC equipped buses were pretty rare. Nearly as rare as the automatic trans buses (I’ve seen one, it was neat, but the owner said that you could practically use an hour glass to time the 0-60)

            1. I passed a minibus some years back. Painted on the back was “Sorry, 40 Old Horses Are Doing Their Best”.

        3. There used to be a magazine called “Cars and Car Conversions” out of England. They were, as the Brits put it, “mental.”

          During the late 1980s and early 1990s, it was popular to skin an aging rally car or (formerly) open wheel race car with Yugo, Lada, or Vauxhall sheet metal. They had a lot of photo spreads of dowdy hatchbacks with March or Tyrell innards…

          Advancing to the 21st century, hot rodding is alive and well in the Russian Federation, and there are lots of Ladas and Moskviches running around with Audi, Mercedes, or even classic small block Chevy V8s stuffed wherever they could find room…

          A while back I found some video of some place in Russia running cars on oval tracks. The cars were all small and foreign, but otherwise it could have been Saturday night at the local speedway.

          Cultural imperialism. It’s a wonderful thing!

      3. Allegedly if one actually followed the instructions in the owner’s manual (a real rarity) and used the special oil called for, the Yugo was… not completely lousy. Merely “Mostly Lousy.” I have no direct experience with such.

        I did “enjoy” (note marks!) the ’87 Hyundai Excel. After that, I went to a Corolla. Twenty years later, I still have that Corolla.

  2. The Left is quite capable of staging an atrocity if it advances their cause. How many deranged individuals are out there to be triggered to be fodder for the the media with cameras running. How many Leftist media outlets are hoping and trying to motivate death and destruction so they can call for more government control?

    1. I THINK I said that, about the atrocity? Or did you think I was pointing out what an amazing coincidence it is when the left needs a martyr, a pregnant woman is shot? I’m amazed they haven’t managed it for Antifa, in the US, yet, except so few of them reproduce.

      1. Good thing I usually avoid these crowds. Shooting a pregnant woman where I can see the person who did it is an instant death sentence for that person.

        “So Mr. Houst, you admit to grabbing the weapon away from the shooter, effectively disarming him. You admit to jamming the weapon through his blue jeans and into his body, and then pulling the trigger enough times to empty the remaining rounds from the magazine. Don’t you think that was excessive force?’


        1. I was in fear for my own life and the lives of those around me so I continued to shoot until I felt that the threat had been removed.
          Or I ran out of bullets.

          1. Heh. I could probably get away with getting hysterical, at least over there, maybe even here. Especially since I don’t know much about guns. Mostly book learning. So: one late middle-age woman crying her eyes out and unable to put a coherent sentence together… (I cry easily. Especially when I am very, very angry I will cry. Fact is, most times when I cry I cry because I am getting angry enough to kill somebody. A gun might be rather unsatisfactory way to do it then though. Axe would be more like it. Or knife. Or hammer. Or bare hands. It is said adrenaline can multiply your strength.).

            1. “Heh. I could probably get away with getting hysterical” …

              & end with, shaking, red eyed, & hiccuping “what gun?” or “it wouldn’t stop firing!” … Being known to be prone to hysteria may not be always be bad; not safe (for others), but then not bad … just saying …

              – Diane –

          2. Maxim 37. There is no ‘overkill.’ There is only ‘open fire’ and ‘I need to reload.’

            – Schlock Mercenary

            1. “It was a traffic accident and he was at fault.”
              “Excuse me?”
              “Law one: incoming fire has the right of way. He failed to stay out of incoming fire’s lane”
              (I mean, they love to lecture us about staying in our lane).

        2. “We on the jury just would like to know why you didn’t stick a rusty spike through his crotch first.”

          1. “May I answer the foreman?”
            “The defendant will answer the question.”
            “Sir, I was all out of spikes, rusty or otherwise. Couldn’t afford to lose the Kingdom for want of a nail.”

      2. It ought not have escaped anybody’s notice that, with a certainty approaching P=1, any campus “Hate Crime” is likely done by a Progressive, to xirself. Racist graffiti, nooses hung, church burnings even attacks upon so-called “n-word lovers” have all turned out to be false flag operations (except in such rare instances where the trigger merely proved evidence of “target” stupidity ignorance, as in “He said `niggardly`!”),

        Even were there white supremacists engaging in “Hate Crimes” the occurrence is so rare as to make them statistically irrelevant. With some people their confidence in their moral superiority cannot stand their opposition being as hate-filled and angry as themselves.

        1. Or occasionally a complete mistake, as in the Oberlin student who saw someone walking around in a blanket and assumed it must be someone heading to a KKK rally. Because, you know, those are so common on the Oberlin campus.

              1. As I recall it was a student wrapped in a blanket returning to her dorm room late at night (did not have a warm jacket).

                1. There’s been several.

                  There was the entirely made up one at Mizzou that may have been hysteria from a social app.

                  There was Indiana University where this message:
                  There’s someone walking around campus in a KKK outfit holding a whip. This has already been reported to the IUPD, but because the person is protected under the First Amendment rights, IUPD cannot remove the person unless an act of violence is committed
                  was triggered by a sighting of… Father Jude McPeak. A Dominican friar.
                  Who works there. He had a rosary. Although their robes are white, they look more like off-duty Jedi…..

                  Bowling Green State University got reports of a KKK meeting, which was a projector under one of those sorta off-white plastic covers.

                  Oberlin had the report of a KKK figure near the African something or other building at 3AM.

                  I feel that I’m missing some…..

                    1. Easy as pie, they’re still in my history!


                      All found via the very scientific method of “I can’t remember a dang thing about what STATE it was, much less college, let’s see…. kkk…blanket…. kkk…projector…. equipment?…there we go… kkk…hood…college…. BINGO!

        2. If you don’t count the anti-Jewish hatecrimes, and the hatecrimes the hate crime folks don’t count*, the vast majority still follow that rule.

          I’m sure there are SOME totally legitimate ones, but right now the only examples that are coming to mind are things like when those gang members in the Marines killed their gunny and his wife, because Gunny was of Polish ancestry and wife was black, and tried to hide it as being racist against blacks.

          *say, vandalizing Mormon church-buildings, usually with gay slurs; destroying Catholic statues both in religious settings and when the statues simply happen to be of someone who was openly Catholic; targeting people of various ancestries for harassment based on failure to behave in a way the harassers approve of, etc.

            1. There’s usually two flavors– one is the same sort that hits pretty much anybody that is actively religious for anything but leftism and targets those Jews whose practices make them visibly different*, and the other is things like shooting up a daycare that’s at a temple, painting swastikas, that sort of thing. Frequently but not always associated with Cultural Enrichment ™.

              *a brilliant counter-strategy is the mini-fad for generally quite attractive young men to do music videos While Obviously Jewish.

            1. They were gang members, not Marines, no matter what uniform they wore. Sadly an evergreen problem, exactly because the Marine are the Marines. (Although gangs go into all the services, because there’s money.)

              Sadly, not a joke.

              May have been “just” a sgt, I’ll go look it up. It was really bad.

                  1. Find some time. You won’t regret it.

                    IIRC, the first volume of that series is in the Baen Free Library — that’s the one where Gunny Pappas deals with James Stewart and his gang.

                1. FWIW, my response was the same.

                  One of those things where I really don’t want to know what happened to the murderers, because I’d be startled if even criminals weren’t pissed about this crime. Because the Marines are the Marines.

            2. It was “only” their Sgt at Pendleton.

              Newlyweds Marine Sgt. Jan Pietrzak and his wife Quiana Jenkins-Pietrzak were found gagged, tied and shot in the head in their Riverside County home in October 2008. Sgt. Pietrzak, a helicopter airframe mechanic at MCAS Miramar near San Diego, was found bloody and beaten. His wife’s body was discovered naked. Officials say she had been sexually assaulted.


              They spray painted racial garbage then set the house on fire.

                1. Death penalty for all but one.

                  Unfortunately, it’s California, so functionally the only death penalty they need to worry about is by other inmates.

                  1. Firing Squad of Marines seems fitting as a punishment. Simple enough message to penetrate gangbanger heads.

              1. The linked article said MCAS Miramar. (It was formerly NAS Miramar, home of the Top Gun school and the Pacific Fleet fighter squadrons before developers built houses under the flight path and the Navy got tired of noise complaints, moved to the desert, and gave that headache to the Marines, who had just lost the lease on MCAS El Toro up in Orange County.)
                Anyway, from Riverside County to Miramar would be over an 80-mile commute one way. I looked at other sources, the murdered Sergeant was actually stationed at the air base at Pendleton.

      3. I don’t know that it’s from lack of trying. They seem to have wracked up some assault charges over the last few years at multiple locations. They just seem to be fairly incompetent at violence. (Which I’m not saying is a bad thing).

        The Louder With Crowder expose he did in Utah when Ben Shapiro was speaking is well worth watching. They seemed to be trying really hard.

      4. If they manage to get their martyr, I’ll be taking bets on how long it takes before someone filks the Horst Wessel Leid for it…

    2. Anyone else notice how “mass shootings” seem to happen at nice regular intervals?

      The next one ought to be around August.

        1. I’m trying to remember if bombing are considered an escalation over mass shootings or not. Trouble is, I can’t see any common threads with the people targeted by these bombs, yet.

          1. You can’t really pass “bomb control” laws, since bombs are already illegal (unless someone decides to go on an anti-fertilizer crusade, of course). So no, they don’t count.

              1. Heck, when I was a child in Ohio they sold cherry bombs & M-80s at the local candy store. They wouldn’t sell them to young children, but I saw teens with them.

                1. My farmer uncle bought dynamite at the local feed supply store when he was starting out to clear stumps from his fields.

                  He has a story about blasting stumps on one field that was close-ish to the fenceline of a local factory. The factory folks got a little nervous about that noisy young farmer and ended up volunteering the factory backhoe and front loader to clear out the rest of his stumps so they didn’t have to worry about some crazy farmer launching a couple hundred pounds of oak into their parking lot.

                  Nowadays this interaction would feature SWAT team callouts and Federal Agents.

                  1. Blame the domestic terrorist bombers of the ’70s for this nonsense. They were amazed and delighted at how easy it was to get dynamite. Once the Feds realized what was going on, they had to take predictable steps to solve the problem.

                  2. We had a young man expelled from school for setting off a vinegar & baking soda “bomb” in the lunchroom.
                    Sad times, in many different ways.

    3. See Charlottesville.

      “When violence first broke out, according to two witnesses Chief Thomas reportedly said “let them fight, it will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly.”

      When the police finally decided to shut the rally down, they did it in a way that forced the protesters and counterprotesters into each other, instead of separating them, making violence far more likely. Meanwhile police who could have deescalated the violence stood aside.”

      1. Reminds me of the scene in one of the Capes books where they deliberately let two super villain gangs start killing each other before they step in to arrest them all. Logic was, they needed severe enough crimes to charge them with to permanently remove them from the streets. So you have to wonder if that might have been part of Chief Thomas’s rational. I kind of doubt it though. The problem of allowing violence to escalate between two groups is that it has a tendency to spill over and cause harm to the innocent. When that happens, law enforcement and the government have not only failed in their mission entrusted to them by The People, they actually become enemies of us all.

        1. I’m not saying they want violent mobs in order to justify cracking down on civil liberties, I’m just saying that letting things get out of control has its uses.

          After all, a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

          1. In this case, the lead up is what matters: the city and state were forced to grant the permit to the original group by court order, and were looking for any excuse to shut it down.

        2. To be fair, a similar situation obtained in Montreal when the Hell’s Angels and Rock Machine gangs were fighting it out. Nobody cared until a 10 year old boy was killed by a car bomb.

        3. Mayor and Governor were both Democrats with ties to the Clinton machine. The self proclaimed right wing organizer is a former leftwing activist with an incredible conversion story. If someone believes it wasn’t stage managed to produce an incident, that person probably also believes that the woman who incited the Tulsa race riots really was raped. (I saw circumstantial evidence allegedly supportive of the claim that the death would have obviously not been caused by the car. Autopsy report will be interesting.)

    4. I think they’re capable of worse than merely ‘staging’ atrocities. Volunteering to be ‘victims’, being the ones who push the buttons, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if a few assassinations and kill orders also happened.

      I wish I could remember where I’d read or heard it, but supposedly that’s exactly what’s happened a few times – not sure if it’s the discussions about Clinton / Podesta emails or such. (And apparently there’s a new batch of Clinton emails on wikileaks…)

  3. I grew up in a very right-wing environment. My parents were right-wing, all my relatives and neighbors were right-wing, and all my teachers (as far as I could tell) were right-wing. The newspaper was right-wing, or at any rate, not noticeable left-wing. Most movies were right-wing, as were most television shows. The Catholics I knew all supported Kennedy, but since they were not noticeably liberal or leftist, I assume they supported him only because he was Catholic. Things started changing only in the late 1960s, when protesting college students started making a dent.

    In retrospect, I ask myself, why did the right lose its hold on our culture? It seems that it’s because right-wing rhetoric is very weak. I spent decades on the left, but eventually came over to the right, but it wasn’t right-wing rhetoric that brought me here. It was frustration with the left. Eventually, after reading lots of material written by conservatives and libertarians, I realized I didn’t know exactly what such people said about the exploitation of the workers of a couple centuries ago that got socialism going in the first place. I queried people on this blog and in other places.

    No one gave what I think is the strongest answer: exploitation can happen under any system, and since it can happen under any system, then there is no good reason to blame capitalism for it. One can then go on to talk about the adjunct crisis in academia. The adjunct crisis is the best gift the left has ever given to the right, but no one on the right takes advantage of it. Think about it. Academia is far from the centers of capitalism, it is dominated by the left, and yet exploitation of the workers occurs in it anyway. Even worse is that the tenured leftists don’t care about the plight of the adjuncts, which I found even more shocking.

    Another instance of weakness is the response to being called a Nazi. The right’s response is either to ignore it or to argue against it. My suggestion is that we call them ISIS supporters. I said this in various places, including this blog (if I remember correctly), but no one took up this suggestion (or came up with their own suggestions). Punch back, people!

    Well, I could write a book about all the instances of weak right-wing rhetoric I’ve seen, but I’ve already gone on far too long.

    1. I think part of it is because the Right tries to convince people with bland facts and reason. The Left tells stories. It doesn’t matter how convincing the argument is about The Unseen Cost or the Laffer Curve if every TV Show, Movie, and News program your audience has seen has proven to them that businessmen are villains and not to be trusted.

      1. Seriously, it’s not the rhetoric. No matter how weak ours is, we’re winning this battle now we reach the public. It’s the “playing it above board” and not firing someone just because they’re communist. Seriously, I’ve seen this over and over again, and it’s the mechanism of what my dad calls “Let a communist in, and in ten years they’re all communist.”

        1. For all that his snark grates after a while, V– D–‘s first book about SJWs has some very well documented demonstrations of how that works—just replace SJW with Communist.

          1. Remember, the Chicago Tribune used to be very conservative. Not any more.
            FWIW, SJW vs Communist: Is that a distinction without a difference?

              1. Well, the Spanish Communists were at war with Franco but still did the “purity thing” with the volunteers fighting for them against Franco. 😦

        2. “we’re winning this battle now we reach the public.”

          Well, I hope you’re right, though when I look at our colleges and universities, they seem to get worse every year. And unfortunately, what happens there seems to then spread outward to the rest of society.

          1. They are getting worse year by year, no doubt about that. But the thing is, people are realizing that. There’s a reason Glenn Reynolds has been writing about the “higher education bubble” on his InstaPundit blog for years now.

            It won’t do the left much good to take over a school if they can’t run it as a going concern.

            1. Yeah. There’s been two or three state legislatures that have stepped in after shenanigans at the state schools came to light.

    2. The right lost the control (Though honestly, I think you grew up in a pocket.) Heinlein (and I, looking back) saw them in control in the forties, though more discrete about showing it, not because of weak rhetoric (Dear LORD what does the strength of the rhetoric matter if you don’t reach the people. Now we can, due to the net, note our “weakness of rhetoric” isn’t holding us back. In fact, all the left has is screaming epithet.) but because the right hires for competency. The left hires for ideology.
      This is why the left destroys every institution they take over. BUT they do take over.

      1. One of the things the leftoids want everyone to forget is the blacklisting after McCarthy was enforced by the leftoids. It was most often broken by a “right-winger” like Ed Sullivan or in the case of my great uncle, Charles Shultz, who were willing to work with those listed after a certain amount of time.

      2. The entire country seemed to lean right when I was young, with the possible exception of New York City. As far as I can tell from old books and movies, San Francisco used to be just an ordinary city and not a wildly leftist one. California voted in Ronald Reagan as governor. There were no protest marches anywhere until the mid-1960s. There were lots of Democrats in the South, of course, but they were not at all what one would consider liberal. Lots of people were very patriotic since World War II was still in the memories of every older person. National magazines had columns by respected religious leaders like Billy Graham. Nothing was open on Sundays except for drug stores. I could go on and on.

        1. Um… I’m going to guess like my husband you’re REALLY bad at reading subtle leftism in books. As for religion: that’s not the same as leaning right! Not American right.

              1. For a while, California as a whole used to be something of a Republican stronghold. For about the first six decades of the 20th century, every governor was a Republican – except for the latter part of Hiram Johnson’s tenure, when he was part of the Progressive Party. The great Leftward shift was very much a postwar phenomena, and as I understand it, as much due to migration (domestic and international) as to any change in the attitudes of the native-born.

        2. Why would you consider Blue Laws as evidence of rightward leanings? Do not confuse theologically conservative with politically conservative – the two are not the same. One can be as religiously orthodox as you can get and still be as left as you can be.

              1. Re: blue laws, there were two kinds. One was conservative or fundamentalist, and one was progressive.

                For example: it was religious in most places to ban businesses being open on Sunday. But it was progressive in most places to ban alcohol, or greatly to restrict its sale.

                Obviously this did differ regionally, as there were some denominations for which teetotalitarianism was religious.

                1. When I was a kid all the stores in town shut down for 3 hours on Good Friday. When I moved to NOLA the stores wouldn’t sell certain items on Sunday, and only certain stores (you could go to Sears and buy a radio, but you couldn’t buy a radio from K&B Drugs even though they had them as well) Meanwhile bars and strip joints never closed.

                2. Thought about this one the rest of the day and overnight. Laws prohibiting alcohol sales on Sunday are usually remnants of a full set of Blue Laws. But the main thing is that, on social issues, there is often no division between Progressive and Fundamentalist.

                  Folks have a certain idea at the term Fundamentalist that may not be accurate. A Fundamentalist of any stripe is one that holds to the fundamentals of something. By this definition, many not considered fundamentalists are. Thus how Fundamentalist gets used is often different or more restrictive than what it is.

                  In any event, a believer who takes his religion seriously may well hold to progressive children. Churches that held to abstaining from alcohol pushed Prohibition literally for the children and women. That’s a straight-up progressive argument, but adopted out of religious concern. But not all fundamentalist churches see alcoholic beverages this way, and not all necessarily support such laws.

                  By the time alcohol sales are restricted only on Sunday, Christmas, and Election Day, any progressive reasons are gone. What remains is pretty much religious, and one that only applicable to certain fundamentalist denominations in a larger set of the same. A progressive might argue for a dry county, but just dry one day of the week isn’t going to help that much.

              2. If he were actively trying to bring the prophecy of St. Malachy to fruition, what would he do differently?

              3. You mean the one who recently announced that the government in Beijing would get to have a say in who got positions in the Catholic leadership in China?

            1. Maybe. I just remember religious leaders back then being either conservative or moderate. The liberalization of the mainline Protestant denominations began happening in the late 1960s. For Catholics it was Vatican II, I guess. Before that period, I believe that only Catholics went to Catholic schools and colleges and only Protestants went to Protestant schools colleges. The only liberals around were the Quakers, but they were not very influential.

              1. I think the key here is that, while politicians and religious leaders were more conservative then, there remains considerable space between today’s Liberalism and actually being Conservative.

                Eisenhower wasn’t shy about using the military to impose Federal policies on recalcitrant states, Nixon gave us Wage/Price controls and the EPA and we narrowly avoided a President Rockefeller. Ans the GOP leadership was notably unenthused by Reagan’s candidacy.

                A large part of the apparently more conservative tilt of the country has more to do with changes in our political structure. Used to be the candidates in any district were only narrowly different in their ideologies. With the nationalization of fund-raising it is now more common for candidates to heed their funders than their districts. There are usually sufficient extremists in the district and activist-liberal press to allow any Dem to proclaim ximself a moderate and xis Republican opponent an extremist.

              2. It was actually much earlier. See, it’s very easy for Christians to go liberal on social issues because it meshes with the idea of compassion and mercy. But this gets into whether certain policies help or enable.

                1. If there wasn’t a temptation to believing Christians, then Popes wouldn’t have spent the last century and thirty years reminding folks that it’s intrinsically wrong. For those following along at home, abortion is in that category, and the death penalty isn’t, for an idea of how very much a NO this is.

                  Since I can only do one link, this one has the two big smackdowns properly named and a thumbnail of why:

          1. IIRC, one of the demands of the SLA for Patty Hurst’s ransom was food distribution, and there trouble broke out. IIRC,Ronald Reagan quipped that it was too bad there wasn’t an outbreak of botulism.

      3. Back in the day it was undercover: Walter Cronkite could not openly come out and praise the Soviet Union as the pinnacle of all that was good and right and arrow-of-history-y during one of his nightly news broadcasts during the Vietnam War, instead he had to pretend to be a patriot while subtly advancing his socialist true beliefs. Uncle Walter is the baseline definition for me of the Fellow Traveller/Useful Idiot – that person who, when they inevitably were lined up against the wall to be shot after the Soviet victory, would be one of the ones shouting “But I was on your side! Look at all I did for The Cause!”

      4. The strength of the rhetoric, now that we can reach the people, also brings us to the attention of the enforcement arms of the government. Which is rather annoyingly amusing since they can pick us out just fine, but ignore or miss the ones like the Orlando nightclub or the Florida school shooters.

      5. Heinlein may have been the most perceptive social observer of his time. And you’re right. Anyone reading Starship Troopers or Glory Road should check the copyright dates. Which are shocking.

        1. The book he wrote in the late 40’s on politics, Take Back Your Government, is chock full of stern advice to avoid political alliances with communists and communist dominated fronts. He had seen a LOT of them when he was dabbling in California politics in the mid to late 1930’s.

        2. And just think, Heinlein when young was a radical Socialist!! Why did he hate Commies? Because he saw them take over the Socialist organizations. Heinlein was wild when young.

    3. One of the problems with the Right is the insistence on using Queensbury Rules in the midst of a riot. See the most recent example:

      If your biggest concern is convincing people that you’re not a Nazi or racist or sexist or transphobe or …, then you’ve already lost the fight. More often than not, Right leaders focus on these silly things instead of standing up and fighting. That endemic cowardice is on of the reasons we got Trump (how many times have you heard “I don’t like x, y, z, but he fights!).

      1. You can only use Queensbury Rules from a position of strength. Same idea as showing mercy. You can’t do that from a weak or losing position.

    4. “exploitation can happen under any system, and since it can happen under any system, then there is no good reason to blame capitalism for it.”

      Actually, the way to phrase it is that a better option is to state that the best systems minimize exploitation and free riders—and communism leaves a power vacuum open for tyrants and exploiters.

      1. That’s fine with me, so long as young people understand that things won’t improve for the poor under socialism.

      1. The left. But he was dead by the time I came along, and a Republican president dominated the Fifties. Plus, there had been the Nazi-Soviet Pact that alienated a lot of people and turned lots of liberals into anti-communists. Joe McCarthy may have taken care of any commies remaining. There were none around that I remember when I was growing up. Nor were there any socialists.

        Of course, FDR’s policies were still around, but the culture seemed very right-wing. Also, I always remind liberals who are nostalgic for the high taxes on the rich during the 1950s that taxes were high on the poor, too (20%). Sheesh.

        1. Eisenhower? Republican in name only … somewhat the prototype of that species as he was recruited by both parties. Think Colin Powell with less melanin.

          1. RINO and incompetent, though they seem to go together.

            Eisenhower’s “Crusade In Europe” is his autobiographical account of how he personally won WWII. Which was only fought in Europe. Only his genius gave us victory. The Little People should give their thanks, amen.

            I was reading a paperback copy while laying on a gurney in the OR, waiting for the anesthesiologist to get his act together. Apparently patients reading books in the OR is unusual, and for some reason they seemed disturbed by my occasional snorts and snickers…

            1. No man who would make Earl Warren Chief Justice can be considered anything but a failure as President.

              Quite aside from the minor fact that Patton’s genius was the only thing that kept Ike from being sacked, on several occasions.

              1. It was a political payout to (former California Governor) Warren. Ike promised Warren a spot on the Supreme Court in return for what Warren did during the campaign (can’t remember off the top of my head, but it might have been delegates). And unfortunately, the next spot that opened up just happened to be the Chief Justice’s seat. Eisenhower still tried to put him in a different seat, but Warren threatened to throw a temper tantrum, iirc.

                And to Ike’s credit, he did later say that Warren and Brennan were the two biggest mistakes of his presidency.

            2. A lot of people are confused about why Eisenhower was important to victory in Europe. It wasn’t because he was a brilliant military mind. It was because he mostly managed to keep the massive egos of his army and army group commanders from getting in the way of winning the war.

              1. Nod, that’s how I’ve heard it before.

                Ike wasn’t a “Master General” but was more of a Master “Manager Of Generals”.

              2. This, but it shouldn’t be downplayed. That alone is a noteworthy achievement.

                I’ve heard, but don’t know if it’s true, that someone asked MacArthur about Eisenhower, and he said he was the best clerk he ever had.

                1. Sure, Ike managed generals and kept them working together for a common goal, but does that really qualify him to be president? It ain’t as if Congressmen and Senators have egos anything like generals’ have.

                2. An entertaining AU (which I’ve never seen anyone do) would be to have Patton survive long enough to get sent to either the Pacific (assuming no atom bomb) or Korea under MacArthur. 😎

          2. I can’t respond to everything, but regarding Ike, was his foreign policy generally pro-communist or anti-communist? The latter, of course. By the time I got to college in the late Sixties, I was a leftist, and nothing burned me more than that America was allied with so many right-wing dictatorships, for no reason other than that they were anti-communist. There were no communists in America when I was growing up (or if there were any, they were not out in public). There were a lot of people who were quite fearful of the communists, and some of them went to ridiculous extremes in their anti-communism, such as imagining that fluoridation of the water supply had to be a communist plot. But even the liberals (Humphrey and JFK, for example) were anti-communist.

            I don’t know much about Berkeley’s right-wing past, but I grew up in Minneapolis, and it felt rather right-wing when I was young. Even in the late 1960s when the whole culture was changing, a very right-wing politician (Charles Stenvig) managed to get elected as mayor. Now it is a very different place with a very liberal orientation.

            Regarding blue laws, I associate them with the right because they were loosened when American culture began liberalizing, and it was the right that defended them and the left that attacked them. The left was associated with radical free speech back then. Today, it is the opposite, and the left is imposing as many restrictions as possible.

            And lastly, let me talk about guns. Many adult males in the neighborhood I grew up in, both Republicans and Democrats, owned guns, and this was considered normal. I mention it only because it shows the cultural distance we have traveled since then.

            1. regarding Ike, was his foreign policy generally pro-communist or anti-communist?

              Back then even the Democrats were anti-Communist. Truman, JFK, LBJ, Hell, even McGovern. Their only disagreement was over means, not goals.

        2. So the policies were all, as you agree, left-wing– while the culture seemed very right-wing?

          How, exactly?

          Look, I swear I’m not playing word-games even though it really sounds like it– I am trying to identify what the words mean when you’re using them.
          Sarah and some others here tend to largely ignore a tendency to observe traditional organized religion when they’re speaking of “right wing,” while you at least appear to go off the other side and see laws formalizing an expression of religious practice (shops not opening on Sundays) as a right-wing thing, even though it sure seems much more common in left-wing areas. (Which makes sense, as the left tends to exploit the desire to make things “fair” in the sense of making everyone pay the same opportunity cost, while ignoring some things like how the rules against opening shops not touching on work such as farming. As my folks said, cows eat on Christmas morning, too.)

          I think part of it may be a bit of an illusion based on the technology not being around for some of the current left-wing stuff, and part of it may be related to Chesterton’s parable of the street lamp where a wide range of folks all have the same goal, but for very very different reasons. So, say, “equality before the law” is supported by those who want the law to apply equally, those who want the law to favor someone who is currently disfavored, and people who just wanna fight.

        3. Agreed!! Read Amity Schlaes book on the Great Depression and you will see his administration was full of communists and their sympathizers. Even when the data showed their policies were failing to move the economy, they refused to believe it and did something we have come to expect from the left, the doubled down, and then doubled down again.

          1. A recurring theme in Arthur Herman’s Freedom’s Forge: How American Business Built the Arsenal of Democracy That Won World War II is the battle by American business to arm our nation in the face of FDR’s bureaucrats’ efforts to impose their “leadership,” five-year plans and mad management skilz.


            Remarkable as it may seem today, there once was a time when the president of the United States could pick up the phone and ask the president of General Motors to resign his position and take the reins of a great national enterprise. And the CEO would oblige, no questions asked, because it was his patriotic duty.

            In Freedom’s Forge, bestselling author Arthur Herman takes us back to that time, revealing how two extraordinary American businessmen—automobile magnate William Knudsen and shipbuilder Henry J. Kaiser—helped corral, cajole, and inspire business leaders across the country to mobilize the “arsenal of democracy” that propelled the Allies to victory in World War II.

            “Knudsen? I want to see you in Washington. I want you to work on some production matters.” With those words, President Franklin D. Roosevelt enlisted “Big Bill” Knudsen, a Danish immigrant who had risen through the ranks of the auto industry to become president of General Motors, to drop his plans for market domination and join the U.S. Army. Commissioned a lieutenant general, Knudsen assembled a crack team of industrial innovators, persuading them one by one to leave their lucrative private sector positions and join him in Washington, D.C. Dubbed the “dollar-a-year men,” these dedicated patriots quickly took charge of America’s moribund war production effort.

            Henry J. Kaiser was a maverick California industrialist famed for his innovative business techniques and his can-do management style. He, too, joined the cause. His Liberty ships became World War II icons—and the Kaiser name became so admired that FDR briefly considered making him his vice president in 1944. Together, Knudsen and Kaiser created a wartime production behemoth. Drafting top talent from companies like Chrysler, Republic Steel, Boeing, Lockheed, GE, and Frigidaire, they turned auto plants into aircraft factories and civilian assembly lines into fountains of munitions, giving Americans fighting in Europe and Asia the tools they needed to defeat the Axis. In four short years they transformed America’s army from a hollow shell into a truly global force, laying the foundations for a new industrial America—and for the country’s rise as an economic as well as military superpower.

            Featuring behind-the-scenes portraits of FDR, George Marshall, Henry Stimson, Harry Hopkins, Jimmy Doolittle, and Curtis LeMay, as well as scores of largely forgotten heroes and heroines of the wartime industrial effort, Freedom’s Forge is the American story writ large. It vividly re-creates American industry’s finest hour, when the nation’s business elites put aside their pursuit of profits and set about saving the world.

            Praise for Freedom’s Forge

            “A rambunctious book that is itself alive with the animal spirits of the marketplace.”—The Wall Street Journal

            “A rarely told industrial saga, rich with particulars of the growing pains and eventual triumphs of American industry . . . Arthur Herman has set out to right an injustice: the loss, down history’s memory hole, of the epic achievements of American business in helping the United States and its allies win World War II.”—The New York Times Book Review

            “Magnificent . . . It’s not often that a historian comes up with a fresh approach to an absolutely critical element of the Allied victory in World War II, but Pulitzer finalist Herman . . . has done just that.”—Kirkus Reviews (starred review)

            1. A lot of things were done differently in WWII to win. I had an uncle who was drafted, commissioned, and put in charge of port logistics somewhere on the west coast. He had one eye. His railroad boss was a reservist who was activated and told the Army they were going to draft and use him…

              1. Oh, his brother was a WWII merchant marine. Who didn’t know why he was carrying a load of black sand from Brazil back to the U.S. in the middle of the war. Figured it out sometime after Hiroshima became a household word.

              2. One grandfather had polio as a child, was a Civil Engineer & was drafted as engineer & over see building parts Hwy 101 through Oregon & from there interior toward I-5. The other grandfather was ready to ship out when his boss from the mines showed up, mine wanted their mechanic back. Father-in-Law got pulled from flying & put back in the airplane engineering department. Dad was too young, by 14 years.

    5. No, you have some excellent ideas. You might want to check out the Voxday books on SJWs – quite enlightening, and filled with good advice about to handle contacts with Leftists.
      Keep in mind many of those associated with Leftist causes are sheep – not committed, but they have come to ally with them due to an emotional response to a perceived injustice (as Sarah points out, often completely made up or incited by the Leftists). They are not bad people.
      So, yes, the idea about hammering down on Leftist/University exploitation of adjuncts is a great start. It would appeal to the soft-hearted (OK, sometimes soft-headed) among the allies.

    6. Do I beat the headhunters by eating their flesh in order to steal their strength? No, I kill them, convert them to Christianity, or escape from their reach as best as I am able.

      Others have different answers.

      As I have principles that I would like to stick to unto death were I in a position of weakness, I should probably stick with them when I have a small advantage, and they are all that stands in the way of my desire to hurt others. My politics are quite mad, and I don’t expect anyone else to share them.

      Those are my views right now.

      PS: What is so bad about they Nazis? Why are they being treated as if they are uniquely disqualifying? I see no reason to think the communists are any better than the Nazis.

      1. “I see no reason to think the communists are any better than the Nazis.”

        August 23rd is a day that commemorates the victims of both the Nazis and Stalin.

      2. The NSDP were against the USSR eventually and would have been a thorn in their side regardless. The United Soviet States of America has made great strides in denouncing their enemies and obfuscating the depravities that their mother state committed. Plus the Soviets just harmed people who tried to thwart progress. The Nazis killed the visionary communist people’s. Oh…and a few ethnic groups too.

    7. Actually, I have concluded the exploration narrative took hold on the left due to the intersection of two facts:

      1. Leftists ruthless exploit others. Your adjunct example is just a recent one. In its hayday ACORN applied for an exception to California’s minimum wage for the workers it hired to lobby for a living wage. Read accounts of working for Michael Moore, The Nation, or Radio Pacifica to see how leftists running organizations treat their workers.

      2. Leftists are convinced they are morally superior.

      So, if the morally superior people act as in #1 how much worse must the morally inferior people be. Thus, without any proof the capitalist exploiter becomes a self-evident fact.

      1. Thanks for those examples! I was vaguely aware of the ones involving Moore, but hadn’t heard about those involving ACORN.

      2. Ties into the issue of incompetence, and maybe roll left and die.

        A competent decision maker trying to keep an operation going long term has to consider not only the current work force, but the future work force. Replacements cost time, money, and risk, the risk partly being a scarcity of information. Once you are pulling workers from a large enough or transient enough population, you just can’t know enough about them ahead of time to estimate how well they will work out. Even with easy firing, the bureaucratic and time cost of a bad hire may be significant. So there is incentive for a competent decision maker to not stress out the workforce so much that the burnout/death/pissed off and quit rates don’t drive the replacement rate too high. Presuming it isn’t a industry where, like academia, the work force turnover is high anyway, or one where constant change in business conditions prevent workforce stability, or a situation where margins are so tight that everyone is going out of business.

        So my preferred remedy to the no jobs/lousy jobs issue is getting government out of the way of start ups and small businesses. Start ups are, I understand, basically where net job creation comes from, hence increase demand for employees, driving the price higher.

      3. They got it, too.

        Also, the unions got themselves exempted from CA’s new minimum wage laws.

        Moore is practically infamous for expecting people to work for credit just so they can be shown as having worked on one of his films. This is how he somehow keeps his budgets so low (and most of the money in his own pockets)..

        Heck, PuffHo pays in ‘exposure’ and the founder got what, 50 or 100 million from AOL?

        1. I knew about the union exemption but not that ACORN has succeeded. I was also aware of PuffHo. As for Moore using “for credit” that is less exploitive or hurtful than other stories I have read about working for him.

          But remember, all of those people are our moral betters, just ask them.

          1. “Working for credit” is BS.

            Typically these “positions” not only are they not paid for their work, but they have to pay classroom credits to get the work credits to apply. “But, Interns aren’t allowed to do work to replace paid employees.” Okay, pull the other leg. & No did not have to experience this personally but watched kid & number of his classmates get shuffled aside because they actually had to work for a living so they could go to school.

            My first degree we didn’t get credit for working in the degree field, but had to have 6 months experience in a job in that degree to get the diploma. Most schools that meant finishing class & lab work (which occurred during summer term only, primarily because lab work areas were hours away from campus), then working 6 months in the field, before actually getting the diploma. My school didn’t have that problem because we class & labs were included at the same time (lab work areas were/are integrated in town & just outside); which was a joy scheduling with other classes, when one or two days were blocked out for half to all day labs. Which meant, those that were lucky (actually got seasonal hire) could have 9 months experience before finishing classwork & graduation (I was lucky, spouse, not so much).

  4. Heard the latest harping on CBS radio news this morning whining about background checks. You know, the Florida asshole passed his check because the left doesn’t like seeing Hispanic kids get arrested, even if they deserve it. I’m half tempted to support their while about not letting 18-20s buy, but let’s tie that too also not allowing them the vote. Certainly they can agree that someone too immature to purchase a long arm is undoubtedly singly unqualified to vote.
    On that note, I understand Chicago set up voting booths in the jails.

    1. Yes, I think it’s hilarious they’re claiming he’s white. Sure he is. But he’s LATIN. So he’s “White Hispanic.” Bah. He’s still getting the treatment.

      1. Yeah, and if a white cop beat the snot out of him he’d be a poor brown person, oppressed by the racist cops. BLM wouldn’t riot, but they’d hold him up as justification for their own racist demands.

      2. ‘White Hispanic’?  

        First time I heard the term ‘White Hispanic’ was to distract from the actions of a young black man that led to his death.  Now we have another ‘White Hispanic’ and it appears part of an overall move to distract from the failure of officials to address his ongoing problematic behavior.

        Pay no attention to the reporter behind the curtain.

        1. They’re not so much trying to play the shooter up as a “White Hispanic” – at least not since the claim the kid was some sort of “white supremacist” blew up in their faces – as that they’re trying to just memory-hole the little punk.

          It still doesn’t alter the fact that the local sheriff’s office and school board – all controlled by the Broward County Democrat machine – made the political decision not to discipline and arrest students so as to please Democrat politicians and bureaucrats in DC, and when it all blew up in their faces the politicized cops hid behind their patrol cars in the parking lot until the shooting stopped and then went looking for a political scapegoat.

          1. Teacher’s union was ready to politicize the incident with spokeskids. Teachers could have kicked up a fuss over the cheating on the arrests. They did not. Raises the question if the administrators and teachers were deliberately concealing Cruz’s violent tendencies in hopes of creating an incident to exploit.

            1. I suspect you would find that many of the individual teachers were not fans of the policies. Crimes against teachers as well as those against students were being ignored under the policies enacted in Broward County.

              1. May be that I am being a little bit over the line. Just found out that the chief administrator of those schools was from Chicago and Harvard, and had ties Obama and his Education department.

                1. That explains why the video got released, even though it totally contradicts what the Sheriff said happened and what the news article a few days a go said. (Does explain who the deputy was screaming at, though.)

                  Anybody got a link to the full collection? I’ve only found one or two, and mostly get news reports, and the PBS one has the time/location stamp gone on the second one.

      3. Eh, my understanding is that the Cruz name was that of adopted family. So may not be an actual minority in the sense that they look different but definitely possibly one on paper.

    2. And yes, let’s get the vote back to 21. As for Chicago, are they seceding yet? It could be argued a city that considers asking for UN help can’t be counted on to own elections that count for the rest of the country.

      1. To be fair (I hate being fair to Chicago), that was one Chicago idiot talking that.

        The Other Chicago Idiots were smarter than that.

        Even if they were smart enough to know how it would sound.

      2. Chicago will never willingly secede from the state. Chicago and all of Cook County are a bloated leech that has been sucking the lifeblood from what is mainly a rural farming state for over 100 years. Down staters drive on gravel roads so Chicago can have yet another expressway. Downstate municipal buildings are old Quonset huts so Chicago can erect another marble edifice.
        I was born and raised in a downstate town of 4,500 in Illinois so I freely admit to being a mite prejudiced. I will note that since I left in 1984 Illinois has doubled their state income tax and is charging property taxes at a rate at least five times that of my current state of residence for what would essentially be similar properties.

        1. One thing California does right is set the property tax to a fixed percentage increase based on the purchase price. I’ve heard a lot of guff about how that’s unfair to newer homeowners, but the reason Proposition 13 was passed in the first place was fixed-income older folk losing their paid-off homes due to huge property tax increases when housing bubbles happened. (I don’t mind states having larger property taxes—the tax burden is a trade-off people make when deciding to move in. I do dislike its being highly volatile due to forces outside the homeowner’s control, for the reason stated above.)

          1. Was watching a YouTube stream, an a guy was planning a move from Cali to Northwest Illinois and two others pointed out how high taxes were, he mentioned “Hey, I’m leaving southern California, everything is lower tax compared to that.” Though they about convinced him Northeast Iowa was better and still close to family in Illinois. He also had some connection there. I haven’t seen if he decided yet. But he was getting while the getting was good.

          2. Oregon does the same thing. But only NEW builds get hit with higher property taxes, or add on build that increase size, & at that only the cost of the add on. Thus, when/if we sell our house, the county can’t base the future owners tax base on what they paid, but on the current base + allowed % increase. Note, they are really good about putting market value on the tax notices so everyone can see the “break” we are getting. The initiative passed about 5 years after we bought the house, that’s where they locked the “base”. That was about double what we paid. My folks place it was 5 times more, they’d been in their house for 30+ years. Noticed that even during the 2008 down turn, taxes didn’t go down, because according to the powers taxable, value was still less than “market” value. In an area where reality “market” value was effectively less than $0; giving away was not an option. At least this time we didn’t have to move. Mid-’80’s timber town down turn we did, scrambled through & were able to hold on to house until we could sell 4 years later as market got “better” & loan could be covered VS walk away.

            1. Hmm. That is interesting, especially as it’s likely we will move to Oregon at some point (to purchase my MiL’s 1920s farmhouse that *should* stay in the family.)

                    1. I’m living in California right now. I’m more liberal than the conservative folk and more conservative than the liberal folk*, I’m a geek, I managed to fall in an age gap in my neighborhood and went to a magnet school, hence no close-living friends, and my nearest extended family lived in Washington. I’ve never fit in anywhere, so it’s not like this will be different.

                      *I think I average moderate, but I prefer the term “extreme in all directions.”

        1. Oh, you mean the Safari Expressway? Dan Ryan was just another corrupt Cook County politician, a crony of DaleyI…..

      3. A city asking for UN help strikes me a violating our national sovereignty. Seems there must be several laws they’re breaking doing that.

          1. And I’m a white guy. Instantly branded as a White Nationalist. Which of course means I have to be a Nazi, even though I’m not socialist or fascist; not that that ever stopped a Progressive Labeler.

            1. All that matters is that you are ii their way. They’ll gladly run you down and figure out a reason justifying it later … assuming they even bother.

          2. Guilty and proud.
            I’ve been defending the Westphalian system for thirty-some years, and I’m not going to stop just because it gives my lessers the vapors.

        1. Long ago – so long ago I don’t remember the source – I read that sometime during the 1950s the Feds had determined that there were useful concentrations of pitchblende on part of the Navajo reservation, and had notified the tribal council that those areas would be taken from them.

          As the story went, the elders replied that they would consider that an act of war, and they would retaliate by sending an envoy to the USSR and asking for military aid.

          I’ve never been able to find any mention of that online, so it may have even been something I picked up in a work of fiction. But that’s right around the time the USSR was sponsoring “freedom fighters” throughout Southeast Asia and Africa (which most people seem to have forgotten…), and Stalin or Khruschev would probably have leapt at the chance to, if not actually do anything, at least officially support the tribe.

          The propaganda value would have been enormous. And Eisenhower would probably have been stupid enough to send an occupation force in, just because the Navajo had given him the middle finger.

          And the Navajo… from what I’ve read over the years, they learned how to play the political game early, and they have a low sense of humor… it would be entirely like them do say something like that, just to watch the Feds stroke out.

          1. Gotta love the native Americans beating our government at their own game. They give us inspiration that we can do that same.

    3. Sure, ban gun sales to 18-20 year olds. That won’t do anything to stop 18-20 year olds from dying from gunshot wounds, and probably will increase the number that do.

      1. If they’re going to selectively remove civil rights because of age – despite the serious Constitutional questions involved – the least they could do is exempt them from Selective Service and having to pay taxes.

        1. Seeing as how 18-20 year olds are specifically defined as being in the militia in Section 10 USC, that kind of law manages to violate EVERY clause of the Second Amendment.

          1. Yes. If old enough to serve & die (drafted or not). Then old enough to vote. If you change one, you change both. If you really want to force it, you can hunt, with a gun, at age 12, in most states … Hunting families, the 12+ year-olds have guns they consider “theirs”; might be the rifle handed down through the family from grandparent, or great-someone, but it is considered “theirs”.

            1. old enough to serve & die” entails following orders.

              old enough to vote.” entails exercise of judgement.

              Two very different things. The logic of the original argument was twaddle.

          2. That’s also why the drinking age was lowered. Temporarily, so it seems. Funny how a good part of the world gets along without a legal drinking age. As one teacher in our school found out- if the kid can see over the bar… and it’s in the Caribbean… Coca-Cola automatically comes with rum.

            1. Eh, just because there aren’t legal barriers doesn’t mean there aren’t social ones, and most places aren’t as prone to looking at theirs as we are.

            2. Depends on where. Ironically the less tourist traveled areas seem to be moreso than the ones that cater to them.

        2. Because they’re the most dangerous to the State.
          Fogeys like me have kids and responsibilities.
          Old folks are generally dependent on social security.

          If you feared an insurrection, this is exactly the cohort you’d want to disarm.

      2. I just spent way too much time skimming the Wikipedia page on School shootings.

        Looking at shooting that occurred in the last several decades at school facilities severing children between grade and high school, and leaving aside those shootings that involve outside gangs, most of the shooters were between the ages of 13 and 17. Most of these children had not purchased the firearms they used.

        1. most of the shooters were between the ages of 13 and 17. Most of these children had not purchased the firearms they used.

          Whaat? You’re trying to apply *logic* to this issue? For shame!

          1. One (iirc Minnesota) even trips up the “Only cops should have guns” argument. Kid stole Grandad’s police cruiser and used the firearms within.

            1. Killed his grandfather and grandfather’s lady friend, took the bullet proof jacket and the firearms, went and shot up the school.

              That’s the one that still had a classmate’s pencil sticking out of him when they collected the corpse.

              Imagine if more than one of the folks at the school had the mindset to fight.

              1. iirc (at least I think it was. old man memory hitting) it was around the time of the Pearl Mississippi shooting, I was in NOLA at the time, and there were people I knew from Pearl. Kid shot until a teacher who ran out to his car (parked far enough from the school grounds to satisfy the stupid Gun Free Zone laws) got back with his gun and the kid immediately stopped shooting and dropped his weapon.

                1. Heck, the FBI’s active shooter mass shooting file shows the most common cause of ending a mass shooter* who didn’t end it on his own is unarmed people beat the @#$@ out of the shooter before the cops get there.

                  But when’s the last time you heard THAT on the news?

                  *Noteworthy because of the obvious route gun grabbers will go is that defensive gun uses tend to happen in cases where the number doesn’t get high enough to be a mass shooting.

                  1. I know a kid who missed his first shot, and the second round was .40S&W not the 9mm the pistol was, so it jammed.
                    Got the snot beat out of himself.
                    He was planning a mass shooting, luckily missed his one shot. Seems to be doing good and will likely be okay once he gets out. Admitted to his Dad that he is the only guilty person in the Pen. Shocked his mother with a birthday card signed by the whole wing of the penitentiary.

              2. Unfortunately, as I noted to someone on Facebook after another shooting (right around the same time as the Paris train attack, iirc), you usually need to have *two* unarmed people willing to fight if you’re going to have a chance at taking down a hostile gunman. One of the guys takes down the gunman while the other guy is acting as a bullet sponge.

                After you…

        2. And since they didn’t purchase the guns themselves, obviously we need to block access to guns to everyone, everywhere.

          Except for local/state/federal agencies.

            1. But if you take firearms from your JBTs you can’t easily oppress the masses. So a few dead kids are just the price the state is willing to pay.

                1. Oh eventually the omelette will come. What size it is and what foreign Nations will have made their own is the question

                  1. my phone and home pc spell omelette as omelet it seems yet spelling it omelette gets more hits on a search and wiki claims that is the correct spelling.
                    Vocabulary wars!

          1. As far as I know no member of MS-13, no matter what their age, has purchased a weapon legally.

            Moreover, I rather think that once guns were no longer legal some savvy enterprising persons with a bit of machining skill will go into an underground business for themselves.

            1. Funny thing about that Australia argument …

              US gun control advocates exaggerate benefits of Australia’s gun restrictions
              By John R. Lott
              After each mass public shooting in the U.S. – such as the horrific attack at a Florida high school last week that killed 17 people – gun control advocates keep pointing to Australia as the role model America should follow to reduce gun deaths.

              If only reducing crime and suicides was so easy. In reality, gun control efforts in Australia have not been as successful as we’ve been led to believe.

              In fact, the only proven policy to stop gun attacks is deterrence – by allowing law-abiding citizens to defend themselves and others, as President Trump correctly pointed out Thursday on Twitter and in remarks at the White House.


              Our friends in Australia have been only too eager to offer advice telling us to follow their example.

              Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop recently offered to explain to Americans the best gun control regulations. Over this past weekend a church in Australia got international attention for putting up a sign saying: “When will they love their kids more than their guns.”

              Responding, anti-gun politicians from Hillary Clinton to President Obama have pointed to Australia’s gun laws as a model that we should closely examine.

              But looking at simple before-and-after averages of gun deaths in Australia regarding the gun buyback is extremely misleading. Firearm homicides and suicides were falling from the mid-1980s onwards, so you could pick out any subsequent year and the average firearm homicide and suicide rates after that year would be down compared to the average before it.

              The question is whether the rate of decline changed after the gun buyback law went into effect. But the decline in firearm homicides and suicides actually slowed down after the buyback.

              Australia’s buyback resulted in almost 1 million guns being handed in and destroyed, but after that private gun ownership once again steadily increased and now exceeds what it was before the buyback.

              In fact, since 1997 gun ownership in Australia grew over three times faster than the population (from 2.5 million to 5.8 million guns).

              Gun control advocates should have predicted a sudden drop in firearm homicides and suicides after the buyback, and then an increase as the gun ownership rate increased again. But that clearly didn’t happen.

              For other crimes, such as armed robbery, what happened is the exact opposite of what was predicted. The armed robbery rate soared right after the gun buyback, then gradually declined.

              Gun control advocates like to note that there has been no mass public shooting in Australia since the buyback. But they are simply picking out a country that happens to “prove” what they want it to prove.

              European countries such as Belgium, France and the Netherlands have even stricter gun control laws than Australia does, but their mass public shooting rates are at least as high as those in the United States.

              During the Obama administration, the per capita casualty rate from shootings in the European Union was actually 27 percent higher than the U.S. rate.


              New Zealand also provides a useful comparison to Australia. They are both isolated, island nations, and have similar socioeconomics and demographics. Their mass murder rates were nearly identical prior to Australia’s gun buyback.

              From 1980 to 1996, Australia’s mass murder rate was 0.0042 incidents per 100,000 people. New Zealand’s was 0.0050 incidents per 100,000 people. After 1997, both countries experienced similar drops in mass murders, even though New Zealand had not altered its gun control laws.

              It would be just as misleading for gun control critics to cite only New Zealand as it is for gun control advocates to cite Australia.

              The right approach is to look at a lot of similar places and see what gun control measures actually made a difference. To do just that, Bill Landes of the University of Chicago and I collected data on all multiple-victim public shootings in all the United States from 1977 to 1999.

              We examined 13 different gun control policies, including: waiting periods, registration, background checks, bans on assault weapons, the death penalty, and harsher penalties for committing a crime with a firearm.

              But only one policy reduced the number and severity of mass public shootings: allowing victims to defend themselves with permitted, concealed handguns.

              Since 1950, all but six U.S. mass public shootings have happened in areas where general citizens were banned from having guns. And in Europe, every single mass public shooting has occurred where guns are banned.

              [END EXCERPT]

      3. You could always take the emotional-appeal approach. “Oh, so you *want* young female college students to be raped because they can’t defend themselves” sort of thing.

        1. Been done. The response to a female college student who had defended herself with a firearm, by a legislator, was that she was delusional.

          1. I thought the female student in question had wished she’d had a firearm? Either way, I do remember the mockery. IIRC, the same legislator also suggested some nonsensical “solutions” to rape, such as telling men not to rape.

            1. It’s not nonsensical. It is just a different language. Rape in that language is any action that makes a girl feel bad. From what you or I would identify as rape to month after regret to bitter breakup lies to forcing a man from a job so the girl can call herself something even if cannot do the job.

              I use the term girl for a reason here.

  5. If the “wounded bear” is a communist Russia, I fear it may well rise again one day — it has an effective dictatorship now and a communist counterrevolution is always possible.

    If the “wounded bear” is intended to be communism and/or socialism, I’d say that it will definitely rise again somewhere in the world. There is nothing so tempting as other people’s money and the desire of politicians to rob Peter in order to pay Paul is not going away. This process continues until “you run out of other people’s money” in the immortal words of Margaret Thatcher or, as Kipling put it, “though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy”. The rosy path of socialism and its’ sister, communism, both have been demonstrated time and time again to lead to hell on earth. Yet despite the examples of Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, each who could stack their dead in widrows, “the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire.”

    The road to abundance and continued capitalism should be considered to be relatively narrow as few have found it. As Heinlein reminds us,

    “Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”

    So, I’d prefer joining with Sarah in some of her earlier calls. Build over, build around, pay attention and never assume that things will continue in the direction of freedom. Complacency is not a virtue. There is work to do – both in our lives and at the ballot box.

    1. In this case it’s not Russia, but communism/socialism. The analogy is back to Russia falling, yes.
      Right now? The technology is not with them. They can push us into being all those things they call us, but it’s hard to push us into a centrally controlled/informed society. Unless they ban the tech.
      At any rate the build under, etc. call is always there. So is the Be not afraid. A lot of people are getting so, as the left goes more unhinged.

      1. The technology is a double edged sword at best. Every innovation can be misused to allow Big Brother greater control. If you are particularly courageous, try searching the internet for a certain square in China while on China’s internet … and if there are any readers of this blog from China, I actually strongly recommend that you do NOT do so. Beyond the dream of the censors in 1984, many Ereaders can be now be re-written and/or books removed remotely without the censors ever having to leave their desk or reprint the older versions. Have you disconnected your Ereader from the internet lately?

        Every one of us creates more and more of a digital footprint with each step taken in the name of convenience narrowing your zone of true privacy. Your cell phone can be used to track every movement you make with it (whether from the GPS directly or indirectly through which towers you were connected to). Your credit card purchase history, your credit history, your transit card history, and your toll tag are all available to Big Brother – potentially even without a warrant as the data is held by third parties which Big Brother regulates relatively closely. That is even before Big Brother moves to check what it caught on its’ automatic license plate readers, cell site simulators, surveillance cameras (with biometric systems of course), and audio surveillance systems (like shotspotter). When you combine all of that with what’s available via social media — and not just your social media but all social media which might have caught you in the edge of a picture for example — it is truly amazing how much data is out there today. Today or tomorrow’s AI might just be sufficient to process it all – and then scenarios explored in the TV show “Person of Interest” may leave the realm of science-fiction to the detriment of individual liberty.

        Finally, the rule of thumb that any institution which is not explicitly right wing will drift leftward over time is frequently referred to as O’Sullivan’s First Law. I fear we’re seeing or have already seen the results of this law at many of the new modern, technology driven Goliaths – see Yahoo, Facebook, YouTube, Google, and Amazon for example. Indeed, the details in the Damore lawsuit certainly illustrates this trend at Google.

        To put it another way, economies of scale drive centralization. Centralized institutions can (and some would argue will eventually) be corrupted and/or captured. Or, in the immortal words of Dave Burge, the Left/statists tend to:
        1. Target a respected institution
        2. Kill & clean it
        3. Wear it as a skin suit, while demanding respect

        Don’t get me wrong – I’m hopeful that things are moving in our direction. I just want us all to keep a weather eye out and be prepared in case they don’t. So, I’m not as sure that the folks who are scared are completely wrong to be so. In other words, it’s not paranoia if they actually are out to get you.

          1. There are tremendous economies of scale in software and the associated IP. It is frequently a write-once, sell many times type of business – which can be extremely profitable (with relatively low marginal costs associated with customer acquisition). Even better, when you start looking at software ecosystems and platforms, the fact that you have an installed user base of “X” and an application developer base of “Y” can generate additional value-added to your customers over those folks who do not yet have that user base. (This is usually referred to as a “network effect” – and yes, it can depend on satisfying both the developers and the end clients. There are some which would argue the network effect is not actually an economy of scale – e.g.
            View at
            but it is close enough for these purposes. In my view, this is one of the major distinctions between the software industry and more traditional (book/newspaper/media) publishing… of which I am no where near the expert you are.)

            Even outside of the narrow world of software and moving the discussion to hardware and/or “As a Service”, setting up your own scaleable cloud computing platform like the ones you can rent from AWS, Microsoft and others is now far more expensive than utilizing the publicly available cloud facilities. These providers have made significant investments in infrastructure – and the fact that they have multiple clients using it means they are better able to handle a surge to one specific site. At least one source (MSFT, 2010 or so) would suggest 3 areas of economy of scale for cloud providers:
            (a) Supply-side savings. Large-scale data centers (DCs) lower costs per server.
            (b) Demand-side aggregation. Aggregating demand for computing smooths overall variability, allowing server utilization rates to increase.
            (c) Multi-tenancy efficiency. When changing to a multitenant application model, increasing the number of tenants (i.e., customers or users) lowers the application management and server cost per tenant.

            1. Sarah didn’t say there are no economies of scale, she said they don’t drive centralization. Your example of software development is actually a proof of that: Yes, one software development project can sell a gazillion copies, but that does not drive massive centralized software development shops to gather those economies of scale – rather the opposite, as one developer does not need a massive Henry-Ford-scale infrastructure in order to sell a gazillion copies. The scale-driven economies become less relevant, not more, as technology advances.

              Right now this is mostly impacting the information technology side, but as distributed physical production technology rolls out, it will happen more and more in the physical world – think 3D printing vs. a huge stamping plant.

              And as to Big Brother enablement: Ask the old Soviet Union how their significant effort went, under a regime of absolute power, to control the means of information distribution, when all they were trying to control was copy-machines and mimeographs and fax machines.

              And today, ask the Chinese how many holes they have to continually plug in their internet “great wall”, and how much that effort costs. And while you have them on chat, ask them about their banning of the letter ‘N’ (hint: they gave up).

              Big Brother only works when he’s the only voice allowed to be heard. Tech levels the playing field, making Big Brother’s voice just another individual voice.

              1. Huge central stamping plants won’t go away completely. There are some things that can’t be done, or done well, without one. But for most things, you’re right.

          2. No, but the closest thing we have to a monopoly outside of the state is the tech Giants. Current practice seems to be to get an idea built up enough for one of the ad companies to buy it rather than make sure a good service. And increasingly this requires the enforcement of speech codes and ideological unpersoning to be looked at. The Microsoft antitrust case did it’s job in making sure that companies have to bow, scrape and pay the government masters to survive and as such they are more than willing to do the bidding of the fascists that actually control the country.

        1. My Kindle is permanently set to airplane mode. Every book on it has been cross loaded from my computer where it was downloaded from Amazon. Amazon can delete or update a book file in my library, but it only takes effect should the Kindle become connected which I have no reason to do. And if the Kindle app on my computer were to go away I have the ability to convert azw files to epub to read with iBooks on any Apple device.
          Once I purchase an e-book the first thing I do is move it one step removed from outside control.
          I’m just funny that way.

          1. And we both know exactly how uncommon you are in doing so. Breaking Amazon’s encryption of the azw files is also of questionable legality — if Big Brother was looking for something to use against you. Sigh … 😦

            1. Not likely to be prosecuted so long as I do not attempt to distribute or resell. And I failed to point out in the first post that a fair number of my downloads are from Baen, and all their e-books are free of any DRM.

              1. This. Only mine are ePub to begin with, either through Baen or Barnes & Noble. Even the latter a lot are DRM free by publisher or author choice. Note, removing DRM so you can choose your eReader app, gives one a wider range of eReader apps to use. BUT, legally they can’t force you to use their apps for reading purchased DRM enabled books. Theoretically any eBook app that requests your name & CC purchased information, could unlock for reading, without unlocking the file (none of these are free). It is easier to use their apps because: 1) it is free; 2) when you change your legal information the eBooks purchased there automatically change the DRM encryption to the new information. But removing books from my library. Good luck. I have backup’s for the backups, plus what is on the eReader.

                Legally I can have multiple devices attached to an account. I can setup one or more of those to devices to download purchased library content, but disallow purchasing, then I can loan that device to anyone I want, just like a physical book.

                1. I prefer ePubs for reading and always download my Baen purchases as ePubs.

                  While the majority of my non-Baen eBooks are purchased from Amazon, I’m able to convert them to ePubs.

                  Of course, I always keep back-ups of my eBook library.

        2. many Ereaders can be now be re-written and/or books removed remotely without the censors ever having to leave their desk or reprint the older versions. Have you disconnected your Ereader from the internet lately?
          side load for the win!

          Seriously, your other comments about our digital footprints was a large part of Scott Adam’s recent vblog about how there already is a gun registry in the US:

          He admitted that not everyone who has made 2A/gun-positive comments would necessarily be a gun owner, but that the overlap between positive statements and ownership would be quite high. Granted, as some commenters on the vblog pointed out, piecing together a database from disparate pieces of info would be much more time-consuming than going to a functioning database. And then there’s pro-2A/gun membership lists, like NRA, GOA, etc. He didn’t change my mind about a national gun registry, but he did provide some interesting things to consider.

          1. I had read that and not connected it to my current rant. The reality is that a gun grabber would be very disappointed at my house. I’m very pro-2A and have none in the house — which is effectively in a People’s Republic I fear, so I’m better off not having them here — which reminds me, a good friend who lives in another suburb and does has promised to teach my daughters how to shoot. I need to take him up on that …

            1. Excuse me – I had recently read a 2A blog by Scott. I don’t watch vblogs generally, so that couldn’t have influenced me.

              1. Just saw the column, which seems to have been drafted from a transcript of the vblog that I cited above. Essentially the same info in both places.

          2. First of all, the BATFE has a registry of all legal owners of fully automatic weapons, and cannon of a specific size and larger (I don’t think Mr. Heinlein’s little 50 cal. counted for that.)

            Second, there’s probably a postal list of all gun magazine subscription holders. Those will also have a very high correlation to actual firearm owners.

            Third, although the instant background check system isn’t, by law, supposed to archive the people searched for firearm purposes, is there anyone who actually believes that to be true? However, the minute the government does pull it out will be instant incontrovertible proof that they’ve been lying to us all along, and justification for armed lethal rebellion to eradicate that condition of tyranny, since it will have proven the government can not be trusted to obey the law or judicial interpretations of it.

            1. Looking up the records requirements for the form 4473 is sobering.

              I don’t know if it’s still required, but the dealer’s records had to be given to the ATF either on demand or upon retirement, and kept for 20 years.

              I assume that any firearms I bought in California are registered in some way in the People’s Republic. OTOH, I’m not there anymore.

              1. Bought a handgun @ auction in WA state. Had to fill out paperwork & wait 3 days to pick it up; no fee back then. So we consider it “registered”. But we haven’t been at that address now for 35 years. We sure haven’t given them any forwarding addresses.

                1. Unfortunately, when they WANT to, they can keep track just fine.

                  We got the “how to feed your kid!” letters for each child up to age 5 just fine, and they didn’t send them when we moved out of state. Our ballots got sent, and forwarded, but not the child tracking stuff.

                  They knew where we’d moved to, and they knew when we’d left the state. *shudder*

                  1. I know there are services that keep track of people when they move; sounds like that’s what you got. (Forwarding ballots out of state is a neat trick. Legal to forward, but wow. Yet another reason to dislike vote-by-mail.)

                    California DMV didn’t keep track of moves. I kept getting renewal OVERDUE notices forwarded for a car we traded when we moved to Oregon. $SPOUSE took pity on them and returned the notice saying the car was gone.

                    1. University of [mumble] Alumni Association uses that tracking service. They found me a couple of times. Once about 15 years after I graduated, and then after we moved to Oregon. (Another 15 year gap.) They lost track when we started using a mail drop (AKA Private Mail Box).

                    2. I know right! Hubby they’ve lost, somehow, but me they found & my last name changed! & the State & Federal departments require a notarized copy of my marriage certificate for me to prove I am who I am to renew drivers license or get my passport!!! Was funny for me, even after 30 years (have a copy now for 10 years). Even more for my mom, who at the time had been married for 60 years; luckily she already had her passport which the state also allows because Douglas County couldn’t find their marriage license. Grandma … they’d been married 70 years & didn’t remember the name of the county where they’d gotten their license in Montana; luckily she couldn’t see us dancing in glee, figured that was a good way to get her off the road (she was 90 & should not have been driving). I think Oregon has backed off if you can prove a reasonable reason not to have name change documents, but it puts the State Drivers License at risk for not usable to use to fly documents.

                    3. Probably trying to catch you in the “just using an Oregon address to not pay our excise taxes”. WA tried the same thing when we moved back to Oregon.

                      WA. We were in WA for 5 years after graduation. One of the cars we took up was a ’58 station wagon car guzzler (this was ’80) which we replaced as soon as we qualified for a loan. ’58 was then parked; under the illusion that someone was eventually sometime going to restore it. But we never moved the license from Oregon to Washington, it was not on the road. Someone turned it in. State called & threatened to confiscate the car; my response I think shocked the caller 🙂 “PLEASE! When will you be here?” They hung up (the rats).

                      Fast forward 25 years. Hubby got transferred to middle of nowhere WA, just as kid was starting HS in Oregon. So, hubby ended up taking up RV to live in during the week. There were a LOT of Oregon plates in the small RV park he was in; about 1/2 of them were co-workers in the same situation. We figured that someone would turn them in. My take was, my name was on the title & registration & it was mine & I was a legal resident of Oregon. WA could jump in a lake before I’d pay sales tax. Never came up. Don’t know if I’d have had a leg to stand on, but still.

                    4. I don’t know if California ever figured out we left the state until my wife sent the letter back. This was when Gray Davis was misgoverning the state; the guy who was so incompetent that Aaaaaarnold was a better choice to those still there.

                    5. Seattle kept sending “you need to pay your EZ pass bill” alerts to our house…which was empty for a year and a half, due to foreclosure, before we bought it. The lady who it was for had moved four years prior.

                      They didn’t WANT her to get the notice, they wanted to rack up fines. It was tracked by license plate number. She had the car, it was registered…but they refused to do anything but send it to our house.

                    6. > vote-by-mail

                      Arkansas is quite backward about such things. If you’re in the military and posted out of state, or are temporarily residing out of state (proof required in either case), or have a disability or are hospitalized so you can’t physically get to a polling place (doctor certificate required), you have to drag your sorry ass down and stand in line to vote.

                      The feeling seems to be, if you don’t care enough to actually go to your assigned polling place (there is only one, and they cross your name off a big fanfold printout when you sign in), your opinion isn’t worth much anyway.

                      The Feds struck down our voter ID law, but we just went back to the old way, tracking by residence on paper, because we have the idea you should only be allowed to vote if you’re a resident of your district, and you should only be able to vote once. Because were inbred racist rednecks, apparently…

              2. Handguns bought after 1998? yes. Even PPTs which still go thru an ffl. Rifles, too, now.

                As a note, the San Bernadino attack occurred one month short of two years *After* rifle registrations* went into effect. So, some of the firearms he used *were* registered. Some crime prevention.

                *-some people insist there is no firearm registration in CA. The CA DoJ retains the make, model, serial number, and your personal information in their database, and you can only sell a firearm to another individual through an FFL. Sounds almost exactly like registration to me.

        3. You haven’t heard the latest from China…

          The article starts off talking about apps being used in China to pay for stuff using your phone, and also to track a credit rating. Not too surprising.

          Where it gets worrisome is when the article it starts to talk about adding social engineering (at the behest of the government in Beijing) into the mix.

          1. We have that in the United States. You do something for me, I give you “social credit certificates” (known in the USA as $) in return. You are able to take those “social credit certificates” to the grocery where the cashier allows you to trade it for food. Or you take it to the clothing store and trade it for T-shirts or socks or whatever you need, up to the amount of “social credit certificates” you’ve accumulated.

            It is a very useful system.

        1. “There’s a dead bear in the woods. The great celebration after the demise of the bear is now over. But the carcass attracted a lot of scavengers, and packs of them are now prowling around. For some people, those scavengers are easy to see. Others don’t see them at all. But isn’t it smart to be stronger than any pack of scavengers—whether we see them or not?”

        2. Problem is that the Soviet bear still has millions of Cubs in the formerly free west. Neither side won the cold war. The Russians at least may still exist as something historically recognizable as such when the dust settles. The US experiment I am pessimistic about.

          1. This brings up something else: The Russian bear may find the cubs of the dead Soviet’s useful tools, and may try to convince the cub that it’s their dead mother. The cubs will be disappointed in the end, but the Russian bear has no love for them, anyway, so …

          2. why? Because you take the Russian view of the American experiment? Be reassured. An idea is remarkably hard to kill. Like the Jews we’ll be here thousands of years from now, when the other nations are dust.

            1. The population of Russia had no real change in status (peon for use by czar/commisar/president) in 1900, 1930 and 2015. Between 1900 and today you cannot say that the US Citizen is better off with respect to government. Some categories of person shave improved but in general almost every decision you have from waking up to going to sleep has had the stamp of approval from a party apparatchik. And the option to try and go around them? Many of these agencies can levy nonjudicial punishments with no recourse and are more than willing to destroy your life and those who even associate with you. The government can appropriate control of your own produce, your water, even the land with but a stroke of a pen by someone who has never stood for any vote. Forgive me for noting that those with much to lose did.

              1. I beg to differ, the average Russian is much better off now than they would have been in 1930 or 1900 or even the 80s. I could summon Nicki to explain it to you…

                1. I’ll submit that is true. The thrust I was trying to hit was that the strongman rule (being most uncharitable to pootypoot) wasn’t as much a degredation as a reversion to the mean. By the collapse of the Soviet Union the Russian state may have grown stronger. But is victory defined by whether flags change or which nation’s core is changed for the better.

                  Meanwhile civil rights have been the only major expansion we have seen in the US with that often coming into/being used to obliterate rights that were held prior to the red revolution. We carry spies in our pocket and almost every job requires it. Warrants need not be obtained prior to searches and you may not see the actual evidence that is used if one is issued. Opportunities are divied out by special interest with government choosing who to help and who to crush. Agencies need not provide jury trial before destroying your life. Items as simple as making a private transaction may be chargeable offenses by the government and the tenth is long dead unless it advances a political agenda that the government wants.

                  So basically the bill of rights is null and void. The bear may have become more free but we have taken on many of it’s chains.

  6. “it hinges as most things they do on a fundamental misunderstanding of the US”

    Very good post, but I’d warn against underestimating the Russians when rumormongering and slander and protest are involved. Our dearth of nuclear plants is evidence of that.

    1. Sure. On propaganda, they’re masters. They still don’t GET us. The propaganda works EVERYWHERE. The stuff they aim specifically at the US is failing. (Also, the propaganda worked because their friends controlled mass media. Not so much now.)
      I actually need to do the post to explain it for PJ. Maybe this evening.

        1. As you wish … Sorta

          The White Supremacists’ Self-Identify
          By Sarah Hoyt
          Some weeks ago, my friend Larry Correia wrote an article in which he defended poor people against the charge of not being able to cook, or otherwise take care of themselves. An elitist snob claimed – basically – that poor people had no choice but to buy fast food because learning to shop and cook from scratch, let alone buy the utensils necessary to the process, was an impossible ramp to climb.

          Larry, who grew up, if not poor on paper, certainly not particularly well-off in reality, had lots of fun with this concept. So did all of us who read his article.

          Imagine our surprise when that same day his Wikipedia entry was vandalized to identify him as a white supremacist writer. (This was doubly puzzling since Larry is, as I am, of Portuguese origin–his slightly more remote–and we are, according to the State Department, Latin.)

          We–friends and fans–thought this was just a coincidence and it was some nut who otherwise hated Larry. But that day or the next, Larry got an email referencing his article and calling him a white supremacist, and we’ve reason to believe that it was the same person who vandalized his Wikipedia entry.

          Now I want you to go read that article above–go ahead, I’ll wait–and tell me where Larry mentions race or says at any time that one race is superior to another.

          Are you done? Good. See, there isn’t any such thing. Larry is, in fact, defending poor people as people, and saying that they’re smart enough not to do something like, say, throw out the pan every time they cook a meal. He uses as a witness to this his mother who worked in a dollar store for a long time and saw people’s buying habits.

          So, where does the “white supremacist” accusation come from? …

          1. And if the left doesn’t stop calling the rest of us white supremacists, we might want to inform them that’s a mirror they’re looking into.

            I can almost see an editorial cartoon forming.

            1. It’s rather like the race card got worn out, so somebody taped a sheet of pater on the face, scribbled* “White Supremacy” and dealt that.

              (*) The color of the crayon will be left as an exercise for the student.

          2. > white supremacist

            It’s monkeys flinging poo, looking for something that sticks.

            If they can get the other monkeys in the troop to screech in denunciation, great. Otherwise, just fling the next thing on the list. Since there’s no downside for failure, it’s all a win for them.

        1. I suspect that many are displeased because CNN is doing such a poor job of it that they are actually making Trump’s situation stronger.

          1. At this point, with over a year of Attempted Gotchya from them, even if they were handed a real story about some genuine felony or such… who would believe them? “Oh, CNN? Still looking for that plane Trump made disappear or whatever, are they?”

            1. Witness current efforts to stir up outrage over the Daniels Storm. As if Conservatives are going to be shocked at Trump cheating on his third wife. More are likely to respond, “Trump nailed a porn star? Bill Clinton must be soooooo jealous!”

              1. So they’re just claiming we’re hypocrites because we aren’t complaining about the actions of Private Citizen Trump like we did of At the time Office Holder Clinton.

                Oh, and let’s not forget that so far, the only consent issue on Trump is coming from women at least some of whom were having Gloria Allred’s daughter solicit DNC donor money for them.

                1. Oh, they’re claiming all sorts of nonsense, not just that. I noted two items in yesterday’s Washington Bezos that seemed to reveal the real line of attack on Trump over this: the payment of the nondisclosure fee by Trump’s lawyer constituted an illegal campaign contribution because reasons.

                  That would be sufficient justification (although, honestly, the “R” is enough) for them to open investigation into his campaign and remove him from office.

                  1. So the candidate/his organization paid someone else – normally the money flows the *other* way for a campaign contribution, doesn’t it?

                    And wasn’t this years before the election, anyway?

                    1. Reportedly the candidate’s lawyer paid, from his own pocket, the blackmail non-disclosure payment during the run-up to the campaign.

                      This is a very, very different thing from the candidate’s law firm paying for Russian disinformation to be collected and dispersed.

                    2. The problem would be if it were something similar to the Edwards/Hunter situation, in which John Edwards apparently used campaign funds to pay Ms. Hunter (note that the payment in that instance doesn’t appear to have been “shut up and go away” money, though).

          2. It’s typical leftist autophagy: When any coordinated group action on behalf of The Cause is not working as intended, it cannot be the fault of the coordinated group action; it must be a faulty implementation, most likely intentional sabotage by hoarders and wreckers, and those hoarders and wreckers must be punished.

            The left is not in a position currently to push CNN into a mass grave the way they would prefer, so they are attacking verbally.

              1. A few months ago, Rush Limbaugh talked about this. He thinks that CNN is surviving because ad-agency mass buys are being spread around various networks, and the advertisers generally don’t know how much of their advertising money is going to CNN. With the SJWs working in the ad-agency ad-packaging service, CNN keeps getting money.

                CNN effectively unwound the ad packaging to clobber Alex Jones’ Infowars advertizing sponsors. (“Nice company you have there. Too bad your reputation would be destroyed if we did a story on you advertizing on his site.”)

                So, Rush thinks CNN will continue to survive, even if only at airports, until advertisers actually pay attention, and actually care.

                1. That leads to the next thought – how long will the TV ad buys continue to be enough to support a network in an era of cable cutting and streaming?

                  1. I don’t know. I did notice that the TV in my dentist’s office at the last visit was tuned to my favorite setting: “Off”.

                    1. When I was waiting to see the dermatologist last week at a military clinic, the TV in the waiting area was tuned to the Home and Garden channel … not CNN. The waiting room TVs were always tuned to CNN before, so I wonder if people have been complaining.

                    2. The TV at the auto dealership has the remote available to patrons. I’m there during a weekday, so it’s usually one or two other people waiting. Last time, it was some TV game show. I had my Kindle, so I was reading DST.

                    3. Around here everyone seems to subscribe to “The Waiting Room Channel.” Which is 25% heavily-made-up female “news” announcers with Tourette’s Syndrome and nothing in particular to say, 75% ads for drugs. “Tell your doctor you need Yerbuttsasaggin NOW!” All turned up to “earthquake” level.

                      I bring ear plugs. And I *always* complain about the noise at the counter and when I see the doctor. I get either shrugs or blank stares. I’m 99% sure they get paid, somehow, for those TVs being there.

      1. Americans are steeped in a culture in which we all know we’re being lied to constantly. This makes us among the most cynical people on the planet, viewing everything as advertisement and thus slanted. The result is that people only tend to respond to those messages with which they’re already in agreement. All Russian FB ads stoking political disagreement are mere static.

          1. Admittedly I live in an atypical pen, but Campaign Season in the Wallaby House usually involves much examination of political mailings as to “which of our buttons are they trying to push” and “how desperately have they obfuscated their political identity?”

            Anything video is a chance to test the Fast Forward.

            1. I haven’t gotten a piece of political mail in… going on thirty years. And I’ve been at this address longer than that, and it’s where my voter registration is keyed to.

              Of course given the demographics of my neighborhood, one party probably feels they have the vote by default, and the other feels it’s not worth bothering with.

            2. A couple of years ago I got a mailer that seemed pretty clearly designed to make me think that the Democratic candidate was in fact a Republican.

              (note that so far as I could tell, it didn’t appear that the Dem candidate had personally authorized the mailer in question)

          2. B-b-but… Khrushchev said that they’d bury the US! He wouldn’t lie, would he?

            (Yes, sarcasm. I may not exactly be the next Einstein, but I’m not that stupid. 😛 )

          3. Yeah, the difference is people were continually trying to sneak out of the USSR, so when the ability to control their borders went away, entire captive countries were able to escape.

            Contrast the USA, where people are continually trying to sneak in. Following that logic, if control went away (like you could tell given the prior administration’s neglect of border enforcement, but roll with it, it’s a hypothetical) it’s more likely the US would end up gaining extra states, albeit under a revised national management structure.

              1. During the Marielito era:

                Raoul: “We have a new shortage.”

                Fidel: “What now?”

                Raoul: “Cubans.”

                1. Met a few Marielitos via other Cubans. They managed to sneak out because they were some Fidel wanted to keep. Not like those from the jails he emptied.

            1. The USSR never really offered anyone free stuff. Of course few ever wanted to sneak into their country, except for the hopelessly braindead.

              1. Eh, the ones calling the shots got enough free stuff. And the soft socialist Nations today get to do their holier than the US dance over being able to put 99% of their theft towards paying off their subjects while the US at least tries to act responsible once in a blue moon.

            2. I remember a few cartoons from right before the fall of the Berlin Wall. One cartoon had the last two guys standing in East Germany, with the one saying to the other “Congratulations Hans, you just accomplished reunification”.
              The other was a request that the last person leaving East Germany turn out the lights.

            3. It’s amazing what a difference one single year made. At the beginning of 1989, it looked like everything would continue on in Eastern Europe as it had for decades, albeit under Gorbachev’s “Glasnost”. By the end of the year, the Iron Curtain had completely collapsed (and the Ceausescus were dead).

              (sadly, things didn’t work out quite as well for the protestors in Tiananmen Square that year)

      2. LOL. I know PJ media. However, I just had this image pop in of you in your pajamas at the kitchen table typing furiously on a laptop.

          1. No cameras. It’s that darn clairvoyant distance viewing. Just don’t tell the NSA or they’ll declare me a national defense resource and lock me away to spy on people using encryption tech they can’t break.

              1. I loved that cover from “The Time of the Dark”. Picked it up at the mall on my way to NCO Leadership School down at Norton AFB. And of course during the couple of weekends, had to drive all over the back hills of Riverside County looking for whatever inspired Ms Hamby to use that setting.

            1. I go to sleep at 10PM EST. Which means I have a 2 hour safety window to avoid seeing those things. Thank goodness for time zones!

              1. At one point my mom was feeling embarrassed about her webcam having a flap over it, and apologized to my “techie” husband about it.

                He pulled out his laptop to show her the cardboard and duct tape over both the camera and the mic, then helped her build a better flip-cover for the camera.

              2. I still have a few sheets of write-protect tabs for 5-1/4″ floppies. Perfect for cameras and stupid lights on the dashboard that won’t go out.

                (No, I’m not going to pay $75 to the dealer to turn off the warning light for the rear window defogger that my car doesn’t even have… one of the hazards of having all the instruments, idiot lights, and dome lights connected to a computer buried in the dash.)

                1. Fine. Just blocked my camera. Never have before. Don’t keep it open if not in use, never have, they’d just get a picture of me typing, the couch & sky out the front window (maybe). Always figured … do they want to go blind? 🙂 just kidding, but darn if I thought it would work …

    2. But the circumstances are right now for killing of the Russians with missile defense, first strike, and einsatzgruppen to finish the job. We just need to buy a lot of missile defense for sufficient reliability, and prep einsatzgruppen. We’d have to gut entitlement spending to afford that much missile defense. Anyone who wants to keep entitlement spending is a Russian asset.

      1. Problem is that with our current populace every dollar spent of police, military and intelligence are more likely to be used against wayward subjects of the United States as opposed to external threats. And why should Russia or any nation try and destroy the US when they merely have to encourage their residents to invade the US and send money home from their benefits. Mexico is doing great because of it and the letter of immigration law is dead as far back as I can remember.

  7. ” In fact, we’re well into the territory of “A reasonable man would laugh so hard he’d hurt himself.” ”

    Can confirm.

  8. It’s mind boggling how many people still go along with the idea communism, when everywhere it’s been tried has ended in mass graves and poverty, and the only defense they ever offer is No True Scotsmaning away the facts.

    1. They go along with it because the Communists (and Demcrats) promise them something for nothing. Or at the very least, by expropriating it from someone else to give to them. Minus a little overhead, of course.

      The Roman voters went for “bread and circuses.” American voters are going for “free healthcare”, Welfare, and Section 8 housing.

      Well, at least they were until Evil Trump Stole The Election…

      Despite the Evil One’s occasional missteps, my schadenboner hasn’t flagged yet.

      1. Most people figure they’ll get theirs before the gator comes for them. Plus an era of plenty has made soft men.

  9. Remember, for those of you who are young or have really short memories, this was before the internet. 

    The Spouse recently made the following observation: The building of the Berlin Wall commenced on August 13, 1961, the dismantling began November 9, 1989.  It has now been gone as many years as it stood, 28.  

    Twenty eight years ago it seemed that the world was stood on its head and we thought that the cold war was over.  

    If one wished to be fanciful they might claim that there was a hint when the last of the major leaders WWII Emperor Hirohito died and a new era, the Heisei, began in Japan.  But, from the Cuba beginning to pull their troops out from Angola on January 10 to Poland’s official withdrawal from the Warsaw Pact it was an altogether no good, very bad year for those who championed International Socialism.  

    I am not so sure that the Cold War is really over, rather that their forces fell back, retrenched and regrouped.  May we have several more such years as 1989.

    1. I celebrated when the wall came down, something I never thought would happen, but then came the Soviet coup and I checked an old BASIC program on nuclear weapon effects, just in case.

          1. I would have found that funny had I not known someone who was deployed to Kuwait in 1996 and on her way to the base saw a line of several hundred guys in blue helmets with the trash poles (the ones that end in a nail) marching thru the desert along the road jabbing the ground. When she asked the MSgt what they were doing, he told her that that was the Kuwaitis’ Bangladeshi mine clearance equipment. Apparently they didn’t want to spend any more money than they had to, so they imported these guys.

  10. “Don’t put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That’s why they’re called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes.”
    Sam Vimes
    Night Watch
    Terry Pratchett

    This is a fact the useful idiots don’t get.

    1. If you read up on the Soviet Revolution, it was mostly other groups who did the actual work. The Bolsheviks moved in before the others could consolidate their power and took over.

      It’s easier to have a revolution against an raw and unstable government than an established one, after all…

      1. Especially when the “enemy” Germany gives money to a party that it knows will cause much strife and take a major opposing force from the field. Then Germany tossed away some of that advantage by having to leave occupying forces in the tsarist lands it kept.

      2. Heck! Lenin even bolted out of Russia as soon as the first revolutionary government started cracking down on the Bolsheviks. He left Trotsky to do all the leg-work and keep things going while Lenin hid in Finland from July – October. Even then he laid low until he was absolutely certain the Bolsheviks were pretty secure in Petrograd/St. Petersburg.

      3. That’s usually the case- the old government falls, the new government tries to ineffectually take the reigns, and then a third government steps in.

    2. It should come as no surprise to anyone here that I would take the opportunity to post this:

      Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…

    3. “Now, ironically, in astronomy, the word “revolution” means “a celestial object that comes full circle. Did you know that? Which, if you think about it, is pretty funny, considering here on earth it means change.”
      Mike Milligan “Fargo Year Two”

  11. ” Their theory of life, politics and everything requires that those who oppose them be nationalist.”
    Indeed – they have a whole laundry list of things THEY must believe and can’t believe you aren’t as constrained. I’ve had them tell me what I MUST believe both in religion and politics because I am n*o*t – t*h*e*m. The fact I don’t belong to any political party, think politicians are scum beneath drug dealers and child molesters, often ARE that and killers, and decline to seriously discuss religion on social media is no bar to them telling me what I believe. They apparently feel they are mind readers.

    1. The progressive left are always gobsmacked by reality and simple facts.
      So they invariably create a strawman with superficial similarities to their actual enemies, but laced with vulnerabilities that are easy for them to attack. We saw this time and time again during that whole Sad Puppies kerfuffle. Everyone on our side by their definition had to be white, misogynist, neo-nazi, Mormon, and male. That many of us were female and/or minorities made no nevermind to their attacks. You see their whole approach relies on the general public being ignorant and misinformed of the true facts. And with a compliant media, absent alternate means of communication, it might have actually worked.

      1. Come on, Uncle Lar, be fair. Rather than being gobsmacked by reality and simple facts, many of the progressive left merely filter them out, reject facts as “lies coming from Fox News” regardless of where the facts originated, or decry the propagators of facts and reality as racist, sexist, transphobic, fascist haters.

        1. Well, to be perfectly fair, the varmints are masters of denial, bless their hearts.
          That last meant in a truly Southern manner. May not have been born here, but I just realized that I have been a proud Alabama resident for exactly half my life.

            1. Huntsville, I was an operations engineer for NASA at the Marshall Space Flight Center for going on 25 years. After they cancelled the Constellation program I decided it was time to retire.

  12. I remember all the lamenting when the Soviet Union fell, saying the good guys had lost

    For years after that I enjoyed rebutting Leftists’ arguments with “You’re just cranky because your side lost the Cold War.” Drove them crazy, that did.

    Ah, good times, good times.

    Praise unto the prophets Reagan and Thatcher and all their faithful disciples.

    1. And then point out that the Market won… sure one might just be able to quibble about Reagan or Thatcher or John Paul or Lec and which person had what influence… but “the wall was torn down…and the bits sold off” tells you what system won.

  13. I can sort of see the accusations of people being white separatists, because I’m sure I’m not the only person who’s listened to a black or Chicano separatist going on about homelands and enclaves and not doing business with other people and thought “OK, go for it. Go your own way, I’ll go mine, and may our paths never cross.” But the other “white nationalist” and so on? Nah. I actually bought an issue of a magazine that looked mildly interesting, then laughed so hard at the earnest descriptions of European Cultural Nationalism that I couldn’t finish that issue. Some of the history was mildly useful for sources, but the rest? Nah. Not for an American. Maybe for someone in Europe, but even then, which part of Europe? How far north or south?

  14. Remember, for those of you who are young or have really short memories, this was before the internet.

    Heck, I remember the whole “no internet” thing quite well– when I think about it.

    The awesome thing about the internet is that it makes information so easy to get that you DON’T think about it.

    1. I think internet is in humanity’s top five inventions.

      I can remember pre-internet days quite well and I believe a variety of people deserve collective Nobel Peace prize for their contribution to human development.

      Internet still blows my mind in that I can communicate with most humans on the planet and collective knowledge of world is easily accessible, amongst other things.

      Google algorithm is witchcraft, it often knows what I want better than I do.

      1. I stopped using it when it stopped finding what I wanted, but I can still get my hands on primary sources that boggle my mind– religious stuff that was cutting edge 30 years ago is now known to be nonsense because the documents it’s based on WERE the best available, but more primary sources are easily available.

      2. I switched to DuckDuckGo when it turned out Google was deliberately blocking gun and gun rights sites. That was the final straw against Google for me. Never mind how they treat their dissenting employees.

            1. Also me.

              Teh Goog makes me wonder if picking “Don’t Be Evil” as a motto basically somehow made them be evil.

              1. It mostly depends on how one defines “Evil” — don’t it?

                Look where the company is based, look at the values of the polity there and the only thing identifiable (by them) as “Evil” would seem to be bourgeois.

        1. I use Google for two things. a) their translate program is better than Microsoft’s.(Last I looked, MS didn’t grok Latin.) b) the satellite imagery is newer and better resolution than what I can get from ESRI (usually from the NOAA hazard map site.)

          I was using Bing for a few years (I figured Bill Gates only wanted my money, not my soul.) until DuckDuckGo.

          Applications and sources:
          Search: DuckDuckGo.
          Docs: Libre office .
          PDF: Okular
          Flash: Fuggetaboutit.

      3. Foxfier/Mike Houston –

        Make long story short, I am Canadian who is well paid by American firm to work from my home computer and it’s all due to google. I feel blessed to have stumbled across my job, google is a totem to me.

        I also understand taking moral position against company but I can’t do it with Alphabet Inc.

      4. Speech let people communicate.

        Writing let people bind information over time and distance.

        Printing made writing so cheap it became pervasive.

        Telephony, radio and television let us communicate at a distance in real time.

        Internet lets us do all of the above, on a massive scale, at minimal cost.

        That’s one reason so many politicians want to hobble it with ID systems, tariffs, hate speech laws, search engine restrictions, porn laws, and so forth. They would like to see us all on terminals on some vast government mainframe, only able to see what they want us to see.

        The saying went “The internet views censorship as damage and routes around it.” But now the hardware is cheap enough for them to censor at the NAPs. China, Singapore, and Australia have firewalled themselves off from foreign badthink, and the UK is working on it.

        1. We’re doing the same thing; we’re just allowing the fig leaf of “private business” to provide cover.

            1. In which case we haven’t had an actually private business in this country since Wickard v Filburn.

  15. I think right wing Americans can be hopeful but for rest of world it doesn’t look too promising.

    Here in Canada three main parties are Red Tories, fascists, and socialists. There is no actual mainstream right wing party to vote for. Press is in back pocket of politicians because they are dependent on govt funds now and no real social criticism occurs because reporters don’t want to make life difficult for pols and bureaucrats. Education system controlled by marxists who have totalitarian impulses to brainwash children instead of focusing on actually educating them. Canada is fascist state and I don’t see how that going to change.

    America’s first amendment is one of the finest laws ever written because it is more than being allowed to speak your mind, it also allows people to act on their beliefs. Whigs and libertarians are allowed to be part of politics in America while they are crushed everywhere else.

    1. Back in the early 1980s I would have described myself as slightly left of center. My opinions haven’t changed, but the Overton Window has shifted so far left I’d be classified as “crazed right-wing whack-a-doodle.”

      I’d said all through their administrations that both Bushes were pinkos; after their antics during the last election, I’m pleased to announce “neener neener neener!” to those who laughed at me…

      1. Guy Elf and I served with in the Navy.

        Got out, went to college in Seattle.

        Believed himself to be medium to far right, because he viewed Obama as a centrist, rather than a far-right wingbat.

        He eventually stopped talking to us, because we really harshed his world view.


  16. I was once told by a very earnest and quite lovely young woman, after she overheard the conversation in which I was engaging with the proprietor of a used book shop (and patron of my writers’ group), that I would be one of the first against the wall come the Revolution. I smiled sweetly and informed her that if her revolution ever occurred, I wouldn’t make it to any wall; I’d be going down taking a half-dozen of her compatriots with me.

        1. Unfortunately, his phrasing is likely to be perfectly correct. Historically, murder and starvation are not the only tool in their arsenal in terms of dealing with potentially problematic folks. Mao’s labor camps for women also featured rape of the prisoners. (Similarly, Mao’s orphanages also featured “dying rooms” for unwanted female babies. China’s “One Child” policy was enforced with mandatory abortions and forced sterilizations. Women don’t do that well under communism as its been practiced so far … )

          1. Dude, I was making a dirty joke. Consider the phrasing of putting a ” quite lovely young woman” “up against the wall next”

    1. I was once told … that I would be one of the first against the wall come the Revolution.

      Is that a threat? Sweetie, I predict that once you’re in the gulag you’ll wish for a nice warm wall.

    2. “Come the revolution, I’ll be hip deep in brass and steel casings, surrounded by the dead bodies of the sacks of excrement like you who are fighting for the wrong side. Using your bodies for cover. It will be the only time in your existence you were ever useful.”

          1. paraphrase of Patton: Your job isn’t to die for your country, it’s to make the other guy die for his country!

      1. Better to aim low (heh) and be seen as an overachiever than shoot for the moon and fail to make your mark. ‘Sides, if the balloon ever goes up (and I fervently hope it does not), I figure an escort of a half-dozen will ensure me a place at the table in Valhalla.

    3. The best way to respond to that line is to smile sweetly and inform said revolutionary that Maxmillian Robespierre said the same thing.

    4. That’s where you give someone your best Anton Chigur look, and then say “you don’t know what you’re talking about.”
      I would probably ask if she would be willing to personally pull the trigger- make her face the reality of what she is saying.

  17. I remember the Cold War and the end of it. It was a lot more dangerous than this current group ( youth, adults, and even combat vets) believe. It’s like … we are now a footnote in history and everyone wants us to stay that way… and keep our mouths shut. Funny that so many of the institutions are falling from their control. I would be very happy to see their hands loosened from the universities and schools.

      1. Me as well. I remember duck-and-cover drills in elementary school, and the sound of the siren alert. For some reason (possibly because I saw my Dad watching an old Japanese monster movie — at my grandparents, perhaps, as we didn’t have a TV in our house until much later) I always thought that the siren was the noise made by some giant pterodactyl, circling over the school, looking to swoop down on bad children, and that’s why we were hiding under the desks. Ok, so I was in kindergarten!

        1. Duck and Cover drills were on the way out when I was in grade school in the 80s but it was still enough in the public memory that Weird Al could come out with ‘Christmas at Ground Zero’ in 1986.

            1. I got evil giggles from successfully earworming someone. 😀

              My wife and I make a game of doing it to each other. Weird Al is a good bet as is anything by Queen. Of course you can combine them with the Bohemian Polka!

              1. I generally don’t mind, since I can derail them with a few tricks. Mainly because I’m a music geek, but also because I worked as a summer camp counselor and I have weaponized camp songs.

        2. In the Toho Universe, the Japanese would probably have to practice kaiju drills.

        3. we had them in grade school, and I had one High School teacher who said they were worthless because we lived between an Air Force base (K.I. Sawyer) 40 miles away and the Iron Ore shipyards in Escanaba, 7 miles away, with the shipyard here in Marinette, 60 miles away so we were likely the target for more than one Soviet missile with less than stellar accuracy, so expect saturation.

        4. I’m old enough , but i don not remember any duck-and-cover drills in grade school. But we were in the center of the country.

          1. We had them in California in the 1960s. I don’t remember doing them in any of the schools in other states.

            Back them most schools had walls mostly made of windows “to let in natural light.” Which turned the rooms into sweltering greenhouses… later when I read about overpressure effects from a nearby explosion, I figured the main purpose of “duck and cover” was protection from flying glass. But they never *said* that, implying you were somehow being protected from an atomic bomb.

            1. Depending on range, the force of the blast and flash burns/fire are the main things until you get fallout. Duck and cover gave some protection from both. A bit closer may not matter, but the range of these things aren’t infinite. Byte had a nuclear effects program, based on the famed circular slide rule, that gives some idea of what happens where.

              Once you get out of the immediate effects area, fallout is the thing, and that’s where you have to hunker down a spell until some of it decays. The old CD manuals had all sorts of practical information on this.

  18. There was some mini-outrage about “counter terror playing video games” because they were using this for known/suspected badguys.

  19. Ah, the Good Old Days of the Cold War. Well, not quite so good…but we had the opportunity to play with some wonderful toys. Like F-14s. My word, I miss Tom Clancy (believe it or not, my mother worked with his first wife).

    Seriously, I fear Sarah may be right…expect the Left to pull a false flag operation at some point. I was expecting significant rioting last summer. This summer may be more likely.

    1. I was expecting significant rioting last summer.

      Watch for what happens in PA-18 after tomorrow night.

    2. Speaking of “false flags” . . . I don’t want to be within a hundred miles of one of those upcoming “March For Our Lives” rallies. Given how politically useful dead kids (and limelight-seeking “survivors” ) are . . .

    3. Dunno about false flags, but I expect spikes of Antifa rioting and heated rhetoric, especially in light of the ongoing collapse of the Russian Collusion narrative.

      1. The “ongoing collapse of the Russian Collusion narrative“? Funy thing about that …

        Former DNI James Clapper Allegedly Leaked to CNN, investigation revealed
        Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper allegedly leaked information to CNN early last year regarding the classified briefings given to then President-Elect Donald Trump and President Barrack Obama on the salacious dossier claiming the Russians had compromising information on the president-elect, according to government sources, who noted the evidence of the leak was collected during the House Intelligence Committee’s Russia investigation.

        Clapper, who was one of four senior Obama administration officials to attend the briefing with the presidents, also stated his “profound dismay at the leaks” in an official statement issued in January, 2017 and warned that the leaks were “extremely corrosive and damaging” to national security, according to his press release. …

        In other news, former-DNI Clapper declares himself shocked, shocked to discover leaking occurred.

        1. And not a smidge of corruption or punishment. But get 51 and 50%+1 and first bill will be articles of impeachment for “obstruction”

    1. A lot of conservatives previously held leftist views, and then learned that they just don’t work.

      1. or they were moderates who moved to CA and saw how it didn’t work. Yes, living in CA turned me conservative.

    2. It would be difficult for conservatives to not understand liberals better than liberals understand conservatives, because liberals understand conservatives the way chimps understand Chopin.

    3. One side is bombarded by the other all day long. The other side has to search out opposing views. And the representatives of the former refuse to try and defend themselves or promote their philosophy while their opponents are free to call for the execution of all of their enemies.

    4. I think Irving Kristol said it better — “A neoconservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality.”
      The other quote – which has been around for a while (and been falsely attributed to a number of people) is something like – “If you are not a Liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a Conservative at 35, you have no brain”
      In other words, there are more ex-Liberals who are now Conservative than the other way around …. 😉

  20. A thought about the various attempts to conflate the left’s opponents with Nazi’s or labels that are “Nazi-but-not-in-so-many-words”, recently when browsing an Imgur “Meme Dump” I encountered one that I think perfectly captures the SJW/Antifa attitudes to Nazism; “My Hero is The Man Who Killed Hitler!”…

      1. Yes, whether or not they realise that’s what they’re saying.

        And when you take a look at SJW/Antifa positions on things, including (I believe) Jews & Death Camps, you are likely to find supporting evidence for the statement (seriously, when was the last time you saw a “Social Justice Warrior” *objecting* to anti-Semitism or supporting the existence of a Israel?)

        1. When supporting Judaism meant just changing Facebook pic and bemoaning how the white Christian majority was oppressing the poor underdog minority. Islam is both more foreign and typically higher melanin so it has more rights in the current era than a more Western typical religion like Judaism.

      2. “Name one good thing Hitler did!”

        “Well, he killed Hitler! That has tou count for something, right?”

    1. Not to mention Gun Control Boy and his armband . . .

      I mean, seriously? Did nobody stop and think about what that looks like for even 10 seconds?

  21. “Be not afraid” is easy. I’m a single-use expendable pissed off grandpa. And they’re gonna run out of assholes before we run out of grandpas.

    Not spry enough to get out of the way, accurate enough to put myself in the way and attrit. See all y’all in Valhalla!

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