Coyote Gravity by Christopher M. Chupik

Coyote Gravity – by Christopher M. Chupik

 

 

You know the moment. Wile E. Coyote (Super-Genius) has ordered his high-tech equipment from Acme and is busy creating his elaborate trap which will catch the Roadrunner. But while he’s doing this, the Roadrunner sneaks up behind him and beep-beeps loudly, startling Coyote right off the cliff he’s standing on. For a moment the Coyote hangs suspended in the air. Then he looks down. Gravity reasserts itself with a vengeance and he plummets helplessly earthwards, hitting the ground with a puff of dust.

The modern Left is having that moment right now.

The 2016 Election was supposed to be the triumphant of the as-yet-unmade Hillary Clinton biopic, where the heroine defeats the designated woman-hating he-man villain and claims her rightful place as the First Female POTUS . . .

And then there’s what actually happened.

Now we’ve got witches casting anti-Trump spells, minor celebrities chanting like cultists on street corners, journalists destroying what little remains of their credibility, all in a vain effort to undo what has been done.

Witchcraft seems strangely appropriate. For too long, the Left believed in a form of political sympathetic magic: if they controlled how the world was portrayed in news and fiction, they could reshape reality to their whims. Therefore, it came as a brutal shock to their system when the end result of all their years of plotting and manipulating was the rise of Donald Trump, the one result they absolutely did not want.

The spate of silly comparisons between Trump and the Mule from Asimov’s Foundation series are right in one respect. Trump is an element that our social planners did not foresee. Not because of mutant mind-powers, but because of an intellectual blindspot on the part of those who thought they were charting the destiny of the nation. He couldn’t possibly win, they thought. Our media propaganda machine is just too strong, they thought. Now they’re scrambling to figure out how they got it so completely wrong.

Or they should be. Instead, too many on the Left are doubling-down on the same kind of clueless snobbery and basket-full-of-deplorables rhetoric that cost them the election to begin with. The problem can’t be with them, oh no. It must The People who let them down. Instead of behaving like the good little Marxist automatons that they’re supposed to, they went and elected the Worst Candidate Ever, seeming embodiment of everything the Left despises capped off with an obvious toupee. Now after eight years of Hope and Change and post-racial utopias, it’s back to Amerikkka being the source of all evil in the world, with rich white male Christian Republicans at the root of it all.

A friend of mine was telling me that she thinks a big part of the problem is that modern technology has made it possible for people to get away with creating their own little realities. They can just prune their social media to keep other viewpoints from intruding on theirs. You could go for days and never hear anyone’s dissenting opinion, unless it’s been filtered through the biases of your political peers.

There are consequences to this. We’ve already seen violence inspired by the Left’s reckless “punching Nazis” rhetoric. Look, the National Socialist Party of Germany has been dead for decades. The only real Nazis left are a handful of aging war-criminals and some dumb thugs with shaved heads. Therefore, you’re likely not punching a literal fascist. You’re assaulting someone with different politics for the sole reason that they’re different. That’s what happens when your view of reality isn’t based on what’s real anymore.

You can’t simply reject reality and substitute your own. If anything that arguing with idiots online has taught me (apart from the fact that its usually a waste of time) is that I can’t insulate myself from other viewpoints. If I did, how could I argue effectively against them? As much as it sometimes annoys/pains/disgusts me, I have to know what the other side thinks. If that means wading through sub-clickbait drivel full of SJW buzzwords written by people who think that libertarians want to turn the world into the Trumpian Third Reich of Somalia, then that is the price I pay. And I pay it gladly.

So you can try to hide, if you choose. Unleash your blockbots on Twitter to keep your political opposites out of sight and out of mind. Pretend that everybody who disagrees with you is Literally Hitler. Chant your slogans and cast your spells.

But reality can’t be ignored forever. It has a gravity all its own. And sooner or later, you gotta look down.

399 responses to “Coyote Gravity by Christopher M. Chupik

  1. Sarah had it right. Pop-culture is upstream of politics IIRC? We saw Sad Puppies and Gamergate fighting back against “The Narrative”, and then we got The Donald. The SJWs continued with the same tactics that they used before (and didn’t necessarily work out for them either time) in the ’16 election. Only now the stakes were higher, the audience wider, and more people saw through the bovine excrement they were slinging (sorry Taurus). I’m not sure how many people were actually enamored of Trump as a candidate (I certainly wasn’t, and I still don’t trust him a lick), but enough of them disliked her even more to keep her out. I’m not sure why they think constantly insulting a significant portion of the population on a daily basis is going to garner them support, but they keep doing it.

    I’ve been pleasantly surprised by him so far. I’ve liked most of his cabinet picks. I like Gorsuch. Most of his policy so far has been palatable. I do wish he could keep from running his yapper on Twitter all the time. But, one benefit of that is that he’s got the media running around in circles, oftentimes actually proving him right. It’s almost like their still staring at a Chess board and he’s over there playing Halo.

    • (sorry Taurus)

      S’awright. Those vast red areas tend not to be big cities. And due to that there is a certain familiarity with the characteristic smell of manure, which explains why they are red areas.

      • Michael Houst

        Throwing BS around is fine. Makes great fertilizer, flowers and vegetables grow very well in it. What the Progressive Cabal has been slinging around is more like toxic waste. It burns and kills whatever it touches, and leaves nothing but barren, broken, sterile landscape; unfit even to put a shack on it.

        • Some things need to… age.. some before application or you do get the burn/kill effect.

          • Dorothy Grant

            Ayup. Which is why, when a nice gentleman was riding a horse down my road earlier this week, my first thought was to let the poor “The mailboxes are going to jump out and eat me!” beast pass by before I got in the car and pulled out. The second was “Oh, lookie! A fresh load of horse apples! I bet I could throw that on the compost pile to age nicely, and… darn it, not if I’m going to be on time for physical therapy.”

            I think my neighbor with the roses got ’em before I could get back.

        • Unaged chicken poop.

          That stuff works like napalm.

    • Heh. I, too, like almost everything about the Trump Administration except Trump. Him I could do without, but when you think about the cronies a Hillary Administration would have been staffed with it isn’t hard to accept Trump.

      At least he doesn’t cackle.

    • I’m not a fan of Trump’s either, but I actually think his twitter spews are part of a conscious campaign to steer a hostile media in a way he prefers.

      I mean, for a relatively recent example, look at the supposed women’s day thing and his tweeting about the number of attendees at the inauguration.. Getting the press all worked up about the inauguration numbers, the coverage of the pussy hat day was remarkably low-key as far as the mainstream press was concerned, because they were busy picking at something about which I don’t think he really gives a damn one way or the other (he is, after all, still President, and Hillary is not).

      This isn’t to say that he isn’t prone to plain old textual diarrhea, mind you, but it’s not all just random murder of innocent electrons and bytes.

      • I find it hard to believe that a businessman of his age, now President of the USA and presumably very busy, would spend any time on Twitter.

        My bet it the account is run my a staffer, or maybe a public opinion consultant, running stuff out to see how the wind is blowing.

        • I disagree. His Twitter is a central part of his strategy. He’s playing the media, and they’re flopping around on the end of the line just the way he wants them to. In a society where the media are fundamentally distrusted, this can work very well indeed – and so far, it has.

          Some tweets are from staffers, true, but there are many who are from him – and far from being a waste of time, it’s crucial that he do so.

          • Exactly. When the media was going full throttle after his staff with claims of collusion with Russia, what does Trump do? Tweet a claim about Obama wiretapping him. The media goes crazy – and forgets, along with the general public, what it was hammering just the day before. They lose momentum. Magicians do it all the time and call it misdirection.

        • It’s my understanding that tweets sent using the iOS version of the app are from staffers, and from the Android version are from him.

          I don’t use Twitter, though, so I don’t know where to look for that info, or even if it’s true.

    • I think the twitter business is genius. It’s his direct pipeline past the media spinmeisters. It gets on my nerves (and, I suspect, yours) because he’s a loudmouthed, vulgar brawler. But that doesn’t mean it’s the wrong tactic.

      • Schmoozing is a tactic he knows, and he seems like the type who sent short memos that meant something. So his Twiitter is sort of a memo schmooze warfare.

        • Add to that that the Progressive Left, while somewhat accustomed to soundbite warfare, are by inclination longwinded.

        • This is a definition of the word “schmooze” I’ve never heard before. One is generally nice to someone one is schmoozing, I had thought…

  2. Our own Mr du Toit has re-posted what arguably started it all……

    http://www.kimdutoit.com/2017/03/24/after-the-pussification/

    “What I didn’t write in the essay, and should have, was to predict that if men continued to be marginalized, they would eventually quit the game altogether — because men, accustomed to playing competitively, have a keen sense when the rules of the game are tilted against them and just quit as a result. In modern-day parlance, this would be the Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) movement. “

  3. c4c

  4. but its the same crap, the exact same kind of crap they said about Bush ten years ago, and now they say it louder and in unison and we’re supposed to suddenly believe it…

    • We are evidently supposed to be impressed and beguiled by their “MASOR.” (Manure Amplification by Synchronized Obnoxious Repetition)

      • It’s supposed to work because it has worked, with the exception of Reagan, for decades. They managed to demonize Romney, for crying out loud, so imagine their surprise when Trump – who is just the candidate for those who think that the only thing wrong with Mitt was his basic decency – proved completely impervious to their smears. What they have failed to realize, and the evidence suggests that they still don’t get it, is that their MASOR is breaking down. It can’t amplify nearly as well and it’s no longer the only thing people see, so the repetition isn’t effective any more.

        • It also didn’t help that things they said about Trump became so much hyperbole it became a joke.
          While Bush the second was Hitler 2.0, Reagan was a senile idiot and Obama was a closet moslim, Trump became non-human. He became Hitler-Satan 3.0.

          Trump is now a six-year old Russian agent due to Putin’s mindpowers bend on destroying America/The world/Humanity.
          He will personally round up all the gay people, hand them over to his vice-president who will zap the gay out of them.
          He is the Carrion Lord for whom a dozen of Virgins are sacrified each day to sate his lust.

          We now live in the darkest timeline under the cruelest and most bloody regime possible. Forget the power of science and technology, because Trump discards them, forget promise of progress and understanding for in the grim darkness of the third millenium there is only war.

          • coooei, you weren’t around for Reagan, right? You’re getting that in retrospective. Read the SF of the time. They did the same to him they’re doing to Trump. They just had NO alternative media to point and make duck noises at their crazy.
            As for Obama, you also don’t go to righty blogs much, right? We don’t care if he’s a Muslim or a Deist. We think he was a Manchurian candidate, yes, but because he’s an international socialist, who hates America. And the MSM NEVER demonized Obama. He was “sort of a god” and “the light bringer.

            • It’s sad and funny at the same time when those who go one about the Ultimate DisasterEvil that is Trump wonder what *I* am smoking when I tell them it doesn’t matter as well all died in the Great Atomic War of 1983.

              • Christopher M. Chupik

                I don’t remember that well. Of course, I was only six at the time.

                • Kind of like how I claim I was there in the 1960’s (no, NOT that muddy music event): I don’t remember any of it. (Almost true – I probably remember a few tiny bits. Alas, NOT Apollo 11 dagnabbit).

              • Don’t forget the Great Starvation from all the Overpopulation in 1981! Although, to be fair, that wouldn’t have been Reagan’s fault, now that I think of it…

                I need to add a disclaimer that I only barely remember the 1980s.

                • (I forgot to add to my disclaimer that I could be wrong about Reagan being at fault for the over-population crisis…)

          • I have just decided not to engage with the person tagging her posts “the fascist hellscape formerly known as the united states of america.”

    • W was on some late night talk show recently hawking his book of paintings of vets. The crowd was actually nice about him. It’s funny how once someone is no longer an Acting Republican President they are no longer The Antichrist anymore.

      I wonder if the left realizes everyone knows they’ve taken the old Bush talking points, scribbled out Bush’s name and put Trump over it.

      • Similar with McCain, who was a darling of the Left when he was a “maverick” that regularly sucked up to Dems and up to his primary run for the GOP nomination for President in 2008, Literally Hitler(tm) after getting the nomination, and now again favored by them (if not as much as before) given his opposition to Trump.

        As for knowing about their recycling, I doubt it. For Regressives, it’s worse than just a lack of self-awareness (seemingly a defining trait of the hard left), but that they consciously rewrite “facts” in their own head to fit the current Narrative(tm), and then change it when it no longer suits their purposes. (Or, in short, we were always never at war with Eastasia.)

      • David Friedman wrote about how people said horrible things about W and compared him with the sane, decent Ronald Reagan. And before that they said horrible things about Reagan and compared him with the sane, decent Barry Goldwater. And before that they said horrible things about Goldwater, though I don’t know who they were contrasting him to . . . I wasn’t reading the news back in 1964.

        • they said horrible things about Goldwater, though I don’t know who they were contrasting him to

          Eisenhower. They liked Ike, they just didn’t think he had the intellect for the job. Too many people “knew” Ike for them to be able to slander him as evil and not at all the “good” sort of Republican Teddy Roosevelt had been. After all, Ike had defeated the actual Nazis.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            Considering they seemed to have thought Kennedy had the intellect for the job, I don’t see where they get off complaining about Eisenhower’s intellect.

          • They spent years trashing him after he left offce, though. Comparing him unfavorably with Darling Jack Kennedy, and later with St. Kennedy. The narrative was “Ike played golf through his whole administration”. Then serious scholars started to look at the record and found out he worked one hell of a lot harder than anyone thought.

            And, I suppose, after Obmumbles, the golf thing is dead.

            They didn’t like Truman much either, for a long time. Maybe because he was clearly smarter and more on top of what he knew and what he didn’t know than FDR.

        • And AuH2O got kinda squishy in his old age.

          • Have you experienced an Arizona summer? Steel get squishy if you leave it out too long.

            • ‘…”cold weather” is merely a conventional phrase and has come into use through the necessity of having some way to distinguish between weather which will melt a brass door-knob and weather which will only make it mushy.’ – Mark Twain (on India)

              • https://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/pagett_mp.html

                The toad beneath the harrow knows
                Exactly where each tooth-point goes.
                The butterfly upon the road
                Preaches contentment to that toad.

                Pagett, M.P., was a liar, and a fluent liar therewith —
                He spoke of the heat of India as the “Asian Solar Myth”;
                Came on a four months’ visit, to “study the East,” in November,
                And I got him to sign an agreement vowing to stay till September.

                *********
                We reached a hundred and twenty once in the Court at noon,
                (I’ve mentioned Pagett was portly) Pagett, went off in a swoon.
                That was an end to the business; Pagett, the perjured, fled
                With a practical, working knowledge of “Solar Myths” in his head.

                And I laughed as I drove from the station, but the mirth died out on my lips
                As I thought of the fools like Pagett who write of their “Eastern trips,”
                And the sneers of the traveled idiots who duly misgovern the land,
                And I prayed to the Lord to deliver another one into my hand.

      • The Worst Republican President Ever ™ is always the one most recently in office. As soon as a new Republican President is elected, the previous one becomes a reasonable centerist who would be horrified by this extremism and would have no place in the Republican party of today. It happened to Reagan, it happened to HW Bush, it’s happening to W Bush, and someday it will happen to Trump.

        • The Right has started with this too, Obama was the Worst President Evah.

          Sorry, unless we’re shooting at each other in large organized groups at the end of their term, the Title of Worst President Evah will continue to be held by one James Buchanan.

          • Lincoln

            • BobtheRegisterredFool

              Davis.

              • My pick would be Andrew Johnson, followed closely by that sonofabitch Wilson.

                • Yeah, but Obama’s effect was magnified by coming at the end of a long march. so “worst ever” in terms of impact IS justified.

                  • Allow me to list some of Buchanan’s “Greatest Hits”:
                    1). The Dred Scott case, Buchanan wrote the Justices urging them to find that Congress had no jurisdiction banning slavery in territories. He hoped this would table the slavery issue.
                    2). The Bank Panic of 1857.
                    3). The Utah War, he sent the Army in to deal with the Mormons.
                    4). Bleeding Kansas, didn’t send in the Army, and tried to get Congress to accept an unpopular, proslavery Constitution for Kansas Statehood.
                    5). Secession, most of the Southern States which formed the Confederacy seceded at the tail end of Buchanan’s watch, though he did try and stem the tide.

                    • Yes, but compare that to financing our enemies. Actually fighting on the side of Al Quaeda. corrupting our education and medical care POSSIBLY beyond retrieval, and I bet about 200 things we haven’t found out about. Sure Buchanan looks bad, but you already know how that story ended. With Obama we don’t KNOW yet. Hell, we’re just now seeing the result of some Clinton BS. So, don’t call yet. I’d easily same top ten worse for Obama, though.

                    • So, where would you rank Obama?

                    • AND Buchanan did not liberally seed the permanent bureaucracy with ultra leftist moles to cause havoc for upcoming opposition presidents. If the Republican Congress can grow a spine and modify the Civil Service laws to allow them to get fired it will take years to get them all out.

                    • AND it remains to be see to what extent the Obama administration “incidentally” monitored Trump transition team communications and illegally released identifying information. I don’t think Buchanan deliberately abused government power for political purpose.

                    • BobtheRegisterredFool

                      My standard answer is that Davis is the worst, due to a combination of counting all civil war deaths against his account, and that the CSA catastrophically failed on his watch.

                      Obama hasn’t matched or exceeded that yet. And some of what the Democratic Party is pulling now, in hindsight, seems pretty clearly to be the Clinton machine.

                      I would’ve said that Obama was a pretty solid #2 after Davis, but maybe I need to rethink that.

                    • Re: Davis.

                      Davis gets a lot of flak simply for being Davis, including fake news of the day. It was widely reported that he was captured wearing women’s clothing, but I’ve read two different monographs from members of the unit who captured him, and both specifically deny that charge.

                      So we’ve got the Cult of Lincoln the Hero vs the Cult of Davis the Villain, and to be honest both just about makes me want to hurl. Lincoln didn’t walk on water and Davis didn’t reek of brimstone. Actual history does much to temper both, and what comes out of it is that Lincoln and Davis were people, with hopes and dreams and griefs and fears and good points and bad.

                      I suppose both will continue as part of the mem in America as long as there is an America. It starts to evaporate as soon as you read Lincoln’s initial call for volunteers and Davis giving soldiers their back pay out of what resources he managed to bring from Richmond. And if the mems are wrong about Lincoln and Davis, what other mems are wrong as well? History knows.

          • To be fair, when Clinton was President, I don’t recall the Right complaining about him being the worst President ever (although to be fair, I was only beginning to become politically aware during that time); that title had gone to Carter. And the Right didn’t try to rehabilitate Carter to criticize Clinton.

            Indeed, while Obama was President, I saw a lot of people say that Carter must now be relieved that he’s no longer the Worst President Evah.

            And now that you bring up Buchanan, and others brought up Lincoln, Davis, Wilson, and a couple of others as good candidates for “Worst President Evah”, I suspect there’s a lot of “within living memory” going on too.

        • I was reading an article about how Trump had been Lucky.

          I commented that he would be Lucky until the next Republican president rolled around.

      • I wonder if the left realizes everyone knows they’ve taken the old Bush talking points, scribbled out Bush’s name and put Trump over it.

        But you see, their Resistance works— they throw fits and call him a Nazi, and the world doesn’t end.

        Why would they STOP?

  5. Those of us who recall the Reagan victory in 1980 have sort of been here before. There are differences, of course. The Left hadn’t seized quite such control of the culture, hadn’t utterly marginalized the college campus, and lacked the capacity for epistemic closure offered by socialist media with its curated news.

    But the attacks on Reagan were as irrational, their logic as tautological, their disdain for that Reality TV Star B-movie actor entirely as palpable as we see in reaction to Trump. Of course, Reagan defeated a sitting president, one whose administration was a failure too great for the Democrats to fully deny (although they certainly tried; think-pieces abounded gnawing on the idea that America had simply become ungovernable, America was too complex for one executive to effectively manage.

    Don’t forget, Reagan was their choice for opponent back then, the one guy they thought they could defeat. Oops.

    Of course, these are the same folk who complained about George W Bush being arrogant because he didn’t come to them for advice, so …

    • brilliance is not a forte of theirs. This is the group who thinks physical attacks of a segment of society that holds armed self defense as one of our better fundamental rights, is a valid political tactic.

      • As long as they limit their violence to the kind of people who frequent Liberal Arts campuses they are probably pretty safe.

        They aren’t that smart, though.

    • I must respectfully disagree with you. The difference isn’t that the Progressive Left has more control of the media now. The difference is that they have LESS. When Reagan was elected, they really controlled everything except a few little publications like the National Review. At the same time, they still remembered what it was like to have opposition, and so while they were pretty united, they also didn’t go completely Librarian-poo.

      Now? They have been losing control since Rush became a Thing. And they don’t know what the f*ck to do about it. They’ve been thrashing around since about 2000, becoming less and less effective, and it makes them bugf*ck nuts. We are seeing what could be their death throes.

      • I’d add that there were still a few adults in government, and the media at large (Hollywood et al) who understood that 1) there are people out there who want to kill/enslave other people, 2) compromise can get the results you want, just not as fast, but without making so many enemies, and 3) wishing won’t always make it so. I think Kristol the Elder’s discussion of “Scoop Jackson Democrats”, the kind who wanted lots of pie-in-the-sky social benefits at home but recognized the evil in the USSR is a good summary.

        And then the VileProgs began to outnumber the last Pragmatists, and we know how that story ended for the ’16 Dems.

      • I rarely listen to Rush, but I have heard him tell the Left how to combat him/do well on AM radio. BE FUNNY, be cheerful, be positive….three (3) things the Left just can’t do, can’t even get their minds around any one of those.

        • They really can’t be funny, at least when things aren’t going their way. That’s what happened to Garry Trudeau; a combination of being Taken Seriously by the intellectualoids and Reagan winning. They don’t seem to grasp that condescending nor shrill are funny.

          • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

            I lost all respect for Garry Trudeau after the results of the Tiananmen Square protests.

            He had one of his characters there before the Chinese government took violent action against the protests.

            When that happened, he started posting goofy cartoons and made no comment about the bloodshed at Tiananmen Square.

            While his “character” survived, he was more interested to continuing his digs at Americans rather than condemning the actions of the Chinese.

            He IMO showed that he was more on the side of the Left than he is an American.

          • Gary Trudeau simply lost his ability to write gags. This began to happen before his first hiatus, and was gone by the time he resumed. As a case in point was his series on Frank Sinatra. Had he not had a big name and had become expected reading on the Left, he would have flopped big-time.

            Trudeau always had a strong leftist streak, so his constant snarking about America was nothing new. What changed was he wasn’t funny anymore, and didn’t know it. That would be a joke in itself if it wasn’t so sad.

            • The local liberal (of course!) fishwrap did everybody a favor and put Doonesbury in the op-ed pages post hiatus. (Didn’t know/care there was more than one.) Made it easier to ignore (I’d read the editorials–back when my blood pressure was lower…)

              Trudeau lost me at Sinatra, and I’m not even a fan of Frank.

            • I call the pattern “Garry Trudeau syndrome”; a,genuinely talented and funny comics artist starts taking himself Frightfully Seriously, and before you kniw it his work is as funny as a rubber crutch.

              Berkeley Breathed wrestled with it, and seems to be making a partial recovery. Dave Sim came down with a bad case, and CEREBUS is only marginally readable from the end of the HIGH SOCIETY arc on.

              Pity, because the first few dozen issues are some of the funniest stuff ever printed in a comic book.

          • All this talk about Trudeau is causing a certain bit of cognitive dissonance for me. Intellectually, I *know* you’re talking about the cartoonist, but I keep thinking of the Trudeau (one Richard J) who wrote “The Non-Euclidean Revolution”, which is my most favorite geometry book.

            It’s a book that’s written to help everyone become familiar with alternative geometries; the only fault I can identify is that it insists on writing proofs in the form of tables, which, while admittedly helps people understand proofs, also takes away from how proofs can be elegant. I’d personally have given a few examples using tables, and then translated the proofs into a paragraph format, excepting particularly weird or complex proofs.

            Even so, I highly recommend the book! If only I had written it, then I could have submitted it for one of Sarah’s promos…

      • Rich Rostrom

        According to Charles Murray’s analysis of data from the General Social Survey – in 1973, the “Intellectual Upper Class” segment of the population was equally split between liberal and conservative, then skewed out left over the next 35 years (and it’s moved even further Left since 2008). It hadn’t moved much by 1980. The Long March through the institutions had barely started.

        Yes, the Left had already got a dominating position in the mass communications system in 1980, but it was nowhere as exclusive as it has become now. One didn’t see sportswriters interjecting political commentary into their game accounts, for instance.

        Our esteemed hostess has written of the shrink-turn-hard-left-and-die syndrome. Newspapers were profitable then; they didn’t start to wither for another generation – which is when they turned hard left.

        • It comes down to how one defines “control” in this usage. As cspschofield notes, the control is not as complete now, but as you observe, the Left’s voice is more pervasive, there is less recognition of the legitimacy of opposing views and the Leftist voice is much farther Left than it was back in the day of Walter Cronkite, Huntley & Brinkley and whoever ABC had reading the news that week.

          Further, back even forty years ago even mid-sized towns had two newspapers, each with its distinctly partisan approach (although they tended to throw a sop to “responsible” views presented from the other side. Now, at the NY Times there is no William Safire equivalent, and the Washington Post’s conservatives are (aside from such legacy voices as Will & Krauthammer) mostly consist of “conservatives” like Jennifer Rubin and Kathleen Parker who specialize in proving their “independence” by bashing conservatives.

          To the WaPo’s credit, they have given web-space to the Volokh Conspiracy and Hugh Hewitt, but their anti-Trump animus can be adjudged by this list of “Most Read” opinion pieces today:

          Most Read
          1. The health-care debacle isn’t Trump’s biggest failure
          2. Brace yourself, taxpayers: Trump’s plutocracy doesn’t come cheap
          3. The lessons Trump and Ryan failed to learn from history
          4. Sean Spicer on Politico reporter: ‘an idiot with no real sources’
          5. It was a good week for the GOP. But it could have been great.

          • Of course, most of the Volokh Conspiracy are as NeverTrump as the Post, so it’s hardly surprising: “bipartisan” Republicans will be eaten last.

            • To be fair, one can be NeverTrump and still be conservative or libertarian, too*. Indeed, I’m still largely NeverTrump, although both the Press and Trump are making it increasingly difficult to be so.

              C’mon, Press: I’m tired about all these stories about “chaos” and “incompetence”. So far, Trump doesn’t seem any more incompetent than any other President; indeed, in some ways he’s been even better.

              As for Trump himself, I’m still worried that he’s going to turn on us, but while I may have disagreed with some of his policies, overall he’s doing surprisingly well. The only major disappointment I’ve had was when Trump came out in support of the alleged non-repeal repeal of ObamaCare.

              *I’ve also never really thought of the Volokh Conspiracy as particularly Republican; they’ve always struck me as strongly Libertarian, if anything.

        • My dad was horrified to witness three…football players, I think… commentating on Trump’s election, plus the Bernie supporter white guy.

          All three richer than dad will ever be, and whining about the racism.

          When they were supposed to be discussing sports.

          “Not impressed” covers it.

    • I recall one big difference with the leftist virtue signalling after Reagan was elected: when the promised WW3 failed to instantly materialize, they all slunk off hoping no one noticed how dumb they’d sounded.

      Nowadays, having been thwarted of their promised disaster, they’re doing their best to create one.

  6. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

    Unlike Wiley, they’re denying that they are falling. 😉

    • The last thoughts of a whale come to mind.

      • I doubt like hell that the Progressive Left is looking at the Populist upsurge and thinking “I wonder if it will be friends with me….”

        • Nope, but they sure are going about that inventing (or misapplying) names thing, aren’t they?

        • Kinda like Islamists. I can almost hear the Progs running through Gramsci’s explanation of cultural hegemony and why the Islamists just don’t understand their own best interests as a class for themselves… And then I change the channel, because I know what comes next.

          • That paragon of Democratic President-hood, a President so discredited that he has never been rehabilitated by Those Who (want to) Control The Narrative, LBJ, reportedly “knew” that if he could just convince Uncle Ho that it was in his best interest to back off a bit, toning down the war in South Vietnam, LBJ would soon be directing huge piles of US foreign aid his way.

            ANd reLBJ,it’s funny to me how they rehabilitated Nixon as a “flawed but brilliant elder statesman” before his death, yet LBJ is still officially persona non grata.

            • LBJ is an interesting case, given how he delivered on “Civil Rights,” the Voting Rights Act, Medicaid, and establishment of the Administrative State.

              Part of their problem is that his history is complicated (too obviously a conniving pol), he was homelier than Lincoln and yes, that little war. There is also the problem of his inability to pronounce the term “Knee-grow” when that was the accepted term for the melanin-endowed of America.

              Oh, and it was difficult to kick enough sand over the various race riots in Detroit, Watts and elsewhere during his tenancy.

              • He’s also a white male Southerner, and thus a member of the last group it’s safe to make fun of. I suspect that was part of why both Agore and Hildebeeste went considerably more moonbat as the years progressed.

              • Found in _The First Family Detail_ by Ronald Kessler (recommended by someone hereabouts):
                ======
                On Air Force One, President Johnson was discussing his proposed civil rights bill with two governors. Explaining why it was so important to him, MacMillan remembers that LBJ said it was simple: “I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years.”
                ======

              • LBJ comes a wee bit too close to admitting that all their blather about Civil Rights is in service to their hunger for power. They really, REALLY don’t want the minority vote to realize that if the Democrats thought that was the way to hold pwer, they would go total Modest Proposal on the poor and require brown children to get USDA stamps.

              • LBJ did his “Civil Rights” work to get the blacks voting dem, not because he thought they were any sort of good thing (other than setting up a voting block) and remaned a racist S.O.B. to his dying day (and not the “soft” racism of leftoids everywhere, but the KKK/skinhead based racism).

          • What is Gramsci’s explanation of cultural hegemony etc…? I’ve heard the name but haven’t read him.

    • And when they do go splat it’s never their fault, then “conveniently” wiped from their memory like it never happened (see “Communism hasn’t been tried yet by the Right People[tm], so you can’t say it’s bad”).

      • It’s never their fault!

      • Michael Brazier

        Being Left means never having to say you’re sorry.

      • And my answer is “Communism was tried by all kinds of people throughout the 20th century. Maybe it hasn’t been ‘done right’, but with a death toll that big, it has worn out any benefit of the doubt to which it might have been entitled.”

        Tends to leave ’em gasping a bit.

        *grin*

        • Consider a [MINOTAUR APPROVED] stamp applied. With nice, fresh ink.

          • It doesn’t always work. I saw a (college-aged) communist-loving poster totally ignore several people saying things like “funny how people are always leaving communist countries and not the reverse” and “one heck of a death toll” by responding that we needed to just read the right communist theorists. Um… this is what is known as “real-world testing” to the engineering types. Theory doesn’t matter if the practice falls through.

            • A question I’d like to ask, then, is “Ok, how do you find the right communist theorists? Clearly, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Trotsky, Castro, Pol Pot, Robespierre, and a dozen others weren’t the right theorists. What were all these people missing?”

    • Cartoon politics works much like cartoon physics. As long as Wile E, didn’t look down and see that he had no support, he really could defy gravity. Once he did, he was doomed.
      That would explain how Hillary lost: She looked down at her support and wondered why she wasn’t 20 points ahead…

      • Christopher M. Chupik

        Man, I wish I had thought of that.

      • “Intelligent Falling…”

        • Not so much intelligent, but quantum gravity at large scale. When W. E. Coyote looks down he collapses the gravitational waveform. Until it’s observed gravity is in an indeterminate state. Of course I’m not certain of this…

          • What does Wile E. see when he looks down? Schrodinger’s cat looking up, going “Not Again”.

    • Patrick Chester

      Or they haven’t looked down yet.

    • Yeah, they don’t even hold up that dinky little umbrella Wiley C would hold up when he realized he’d gone over the cliff…..

  7. Eh. If there’s anyone in America with an ideology that could be called Nazism, it’s Richard Spencer.
    OTOH, the same rules apply to Nazis as anyone else–you respond to the actual threat they pose at that point in time. This should not be a complicated concept, but it has apparently escaped people.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      Indeed. On a related note:

    • From what I’ve seen on the periphery of assorted arguments around the ‘net, a lot of the Nazi punchers seem to consider themselves as analogs of Kyle Reese from the Terminator. “We have to stop them before it happens again!” Fighting the last war (or the war a few wars back, or it’s edited for television, simplified for dummies version) is usually a recipe for disaster, especially when you’re the type who doesn’t quite realize what side you’re actually on…

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

        Another way of seeing it is that the Liberals lack understanding of what Fascism/Nazism actually were but are so “brainwashed” in thinking their opponents are Fascist/Nazis that they read Fascism/Nazism into what their opponents are saying.

        • So in order to stop them from saying Fascist/Nazi type things, there’s nothing wrong with roughing them up a little…

          • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

            Nod.

            Of course, they don’t realize that some of the “head-knocking” done by Fascists/Nazis was done in response to “head-knocking” done by extreme Lefties in places like Germany & Spain.

            • School in the 90s, here– I didn’t have a freaking CLUE what the bomb throwing muppet was until I’d graduated and ran into enough copies of the character in old fiction. I think it was Agatha Christie who had a character actually spell it out so I could recognize it…..

              • I ‘got’ that he was the ‘anarchist’ of old. Was there more to it than that? And… well, the explodophone is an instrument that if it does not exist, ought to.

                • “Anarchist” was “guys in ripped jeans holding signs and wearing red bandannas around their necks or forehead.”

                  Usually college aged.

                  The idea of bomb and anarchist being connected was not a thing that would be floated.

                  • No, anarchists and bombs were always connected. It’s something they were famous for historically.

                    • See Joseph Conrad’s The Secret Agent:

                      In 1920, Conrad wrote an Author’s Foreword to The Secret Agent, in which he reveals that the book’s plot is inspired by the “Greenwich Bomb Outrage” of February 1894, which happened when a young anarchist named Martial Bourdin blew himself up in Greenwich Park after a bomb he was carrying exploded in his hands. In his foreword, Conrad refers to this incident as “a blood-stained inanity of so fatuous a kind that it was impossible to fathom its origin by any reasonable or even unreasonable process of thought.”

                      [SNIP]

                      In this book, the cynical genius of Joseph Conrad pits cartoonishly unlikeable anarchists and left-wing radicals (who talk a big game without ever actually doing anything) against police officers who just love the thrill of their job and consider criminals to be a totally natural—and even necessary—part of society. Hey, no one has ever accused Conrad of telling people what they want to hear.

                      Conrad lived during a time when many people were talking about how awesome modern society was, while others—like anarchists, Marxists, and left-wing revolutionaries—were shouting that society in general had to be blown up so we could start over and get it right. Frankly, Conrad could never fully get behind either side of this debate, and you can see this in the way he pokes fun at both the police and the anarchists in The Secret Agent.

                      [SNIP]

                      If there is hope for humanity as a whole in this book, you’re going to have to dig for it. The upside is that you’ll learn an awful lot about your own beliefs while you’re digging… and you’ll get to bask in the bone-dry wit and stunning eloquence of Joseph Conrad’s literary genius.

                      although be warned it is not light reading. At least one excellent* BBC TV adaptation was been done in 1992, starring David “Little Grey Cells” Suchet.

                      *Excellent as in “good watching” — I’ve no idea how faithful it might be to the source material.

                    • Kind of the point I was making– no history given.

              • I just thought he was an anarchist or communist ‘revolutionary’. I was introduced to the type about the same time by an episode of Q.E.D. They never made sense to me.

    • It still seems to me that Nationalist Socialist Bernie is a pretty good match given the societal shifts since the 1920s. The fact that he would likely be appalled at that speaks more to his historical ignorance and full internalization of Soviet propaganda memes since the collapse of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact than his actual positions on matters being actualy very different.

  8. I wish it was coyote gravity, but it’s not. They know it, and we need to remember it. What they know is that they still own the hearts and minds of roughly half of the US. They know that the same old methods have worked to keep them tightly in their grasp. They don’t care about persuading everyone. All they want is to hold onto what they have and persuade just enough to regain control. They know this; their lackeys know it; and we need to remember it.

    Above all, they know that victory isn’t a forgone conclusion, which is why they’re in desperation mode. If they continue to lose support, if that starts to creep into the cities that they own, they know they are done. They know if they can grab power just one more time, they will use every crooked means in the book to keep it for generations. And they may even know there will probably be armed revolt from flyover country in less that two, which is why they are as keen at keeping firearms out of citizens hands as plantation owners were to keep them out of reach of slaves.

    This isn’t coyote gravity; this is the aftermath of a battle, with the enemy scrambling to recover lost ground. The election was a significant victory that might mean the turning point, but only if we continue to work. The enemy has been busy. We need to be busy as well

    • Michael Houst

      You are sooo right Kevin. We all need to remember that while we sort of won this battle, the war is not over. And in the war of good versus evil, evil only has to win once.

      • Fortunately that isn’t actually true, or we would have lost forever centuries ago. Good has a huge advantage over evil; evil is fundamentally uncooperative. Oh, they can band together to further their ends, but in the final analysis they are looking to stab their fellows in the back and grab the prize for themselves. So, when evil wins one, we gat a chance to regroup and win the next one, because the other side is jockeying for power.

        If Stalin had been able to trust his subordinates, he would have overrun all of Europe before the end of WWII. As it was, he spent a huge amount of energy fighting his own.

        If the Democrats hadn’t expended the energy to stab Sanders in the back, they might have been able to win the general election.

        Or not. Uncle Bernie is several bubbles off level.

        • Magical thinking is a big part of their tactics. Therefore, better a few followers who think correctly over trying to appeal to a broad base.

    • The problem, of course, is that no one is paying us 15 large a month. We have to have real jobs.

      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/15000-a-month-offered-to-a-teams-to-fight-trump-agenda/article/2617909

    • Agreed. Though I don’t think Mr. Chupik intended to imply any sort of finality, there does seem to be a hint of it here. There are many on the Left who realize that their tried and true tactics are no longer effective and are urging restraint, but the inmates are in charge and they’re urging more bug*ck craziness.

      They are definitely regrouping after a series of humiliating electoral defeats and, as usual, only playing offense. They are working hard behind the scenes (and not so behind the scenes) at universities. They’re practically in overdrive. Right now, they just lack a national figure that was as “inspiring” (read: one who is capable of pandering to white liberal guilt), and they know it. Their Cult of Personality lacks the personality right now.

      They’ll be back. They won’t stop. They’ll be crazier, and more dishonest. They’re not interested in persuasion, but power. And they’ve still got most of the power – many of their ideological assumptions are baked into too many cakes. Even a libertarian PoliSci professor friend of mine accepts a lot of them because its “in the literature.” My next project to hammer him on is the garbage of “asymmetrical polarization” in congress.

    • Agreed. Though I don’t think Mr. Chupik intended to imply any sort of finality, there does seem to be a hint of it here. There are many on the Left who realize that their tried and true tactics are no longer effective and are urging restraint, but the inmates are in charge and they’re urging more bug*ck craziness.

      They are definitely regrouping after a series of humiliating electoral defeats and, as usual, only playing offense. They are working hard behind the scenes (and not so behind the scenes) at universities. They’re practically in overdrive. Right now, they just lack a national figure that was as “inspiring” (read: one who is capable of pandering to white liberal guilt), and they know it. Their Cult of Personality lacks the personality right now.

      They’ll be back. They won’t stop. They’ll be crazier, and more dishonest. They’re not interested in persuasion, but power. And they’ve still got most of the power – many of their ideological assumptions are baked into too many cakes. Even a libertarian PoliSci professor friend of mine accepts a lot of them because its “in the literature.” My next project to hammer him on is the garbage of “asymmetrical polarization” in congress.

      • The thing is, their craziness plays into Trump’s hand. They make him look reasoned and rational (when what he is is a blowhard and a hip-shooter with pretty good instincts). They are choosing to play the riot card at a time when the Police feel besieged. That’s a damn fine way to get clubbed pepper sprayed, and thrown in the local hoosegow. The the local politicians have to choose between pleasing the National Panjandrums (who aren’t doing them many favors, btw) or pleasing their local police union. Oops.

        Four years of this, and if they haven’t come up with someone one hell of a lot more charismatic than Shrillary Clintbitch (shouldn’t be hard, but they seem to be struggling), and the public is gonna hand Trump a reelection landslide of epic proportions.

        They’ve plenty of time to change tacks, and maybe they will. But I’m seeing no sign of it at the moment.

        • BobtheRegisterredFool

          There’s a fair chance that what could be spun as Trump and the Republican establishment stabbing people in the back on Obamacare is the long term trend. In which case, it may be possible for Trump to lose to Clinton in 2020.

          • This. Exactly.

          • We’ll see. I admit, the fate of Obamacare is a major issue. OTOH, the Democrats have stepped on their crank on that issue any number of times, and never seemed to recognize the moment when it happened.

          • There’s not much to be spun here on O’care.

            Trump, as much as he can be pinned down on it, didn’t really run on much other than what was recently proposed and failed by the establishment GOP. That same establishment GOP has quite obviously not wanted to repeal O’care, despite the several times they voted for show to do it. Seven years and what, six or seven votes to repeal, and they didn’t have something ready to go that would pass?

            That should really put to rest the magical thinking that the GOP really wanted to do something about O’Care other than exploit it for re-election. Perhaps I can be persuaded otherwise.

            • They didn’t have something ready, because they have to have something Trump will accept. Trump is not… a health care free marketeer. Blaming it on the “republican establishment” is a cool trick, bro. What do you do for an encore?

              • They also couldn’t have anything ready to go because given time, the Left is REALLY GOOD at demonizing.

                Part of why Trump does so well against them is that it’s not clear which way he’ll jump– principled conservatism is predictable. Trump ain’t.

                • Anonymous White Male

                  “the Left is REALLY GOOD at demonizing”.

                  They’re good at preaching to the choir. The choir is unstable so demonizing is as good a thing as any to send tingles down their legs. it feeds their “We’re saving the world!” delusion. Rationality departed from the left a long time ago. If their followers were rational, they would not be leftists.

                  • Which would be great, if not for the rather large number of folks on the right who are willing to go along with the demonization.

                    Frequently the same ones that scream that a factual, detailed argument is invalid because it reaches what they classify as the same conclusion as the Left…..

              • Dorothy Grant

                Meh. They could have dusted off any of the old versions, passed ’em, and I bet Trump would have been just as happy to go “Look! I kept my campaign promise!” and stamped it. Instead we got Obamacare-Lite, which was compromised enough to appeal to… not enough people, either on Capital Hill or out here in flyover country.

                • FeatherBlade

                  To which the cynic might reply “Did they ever create any of the ‘old versions’ in the first place?”

                • Precisely. Trump isn’t exactly a policy wonk and has vacillated between supporting single payer and full repeal with almost everything in between. If the GOP, which had campaigned on repeal, wanted something strong, they had numerous existing stronger plans than that garbage that Ryan floated. Start with that and make Trump suggest changes. Congress is supposedly co-equal, after all. My guess is that you’re right, he would have signed almost anything that came across his desk. Waiting for the Left to not demonize anything the GOP crafts is just silly.

              • Well, I did point out that Trump wasn’t exactly trustworthy on healthcare, did I not? If you think the GOP was truly interested in repeal, despite the fact that they’ve been winning elections on just that platform, then carry on by all means.

        • Michael Houst

          “he is is a blowhard and a hip-shooter with pretty good instincts”
          Oh, you mean the average American male from the 19th century?

    • I think you have a lot of good points there. The Democrat establishment thought they had the perfect choice for President in Hillary; she was One Of Them, she had all the right tropes, she was reliably corrupt, and she checked the First Woman tic-box.

      What they didn’t count on was she was phantasmagorically uncharismatic. If she could have charmed the base once they’d stolen the nomination for her, they would have won the general election by a comfortable margin (once their fraudulent ballots were counted). But she couldn’t charm the base. The base had wanted Bernie – or enough of the base to make a big hole in Hillary’s support. And the Bernie lovers just couldn’t work up enough enthusiasm for Hillary to drag themselves to the polls. After all, it wouldn’t matter; the Media was trumpeting that Hillary would win a landslide. So the Democrats would win, which was good, but the Bernie supporters wouldn’t have to make the effort. They could just stay home and suck their thumbs.

      Now, the Democrat establishment has some problems to overcome; they really, REALLY need the base to forget the shenanigans that went in to the Hillary nomination. I think that a lot of the anti-Trump hysteria is aimed at creating that forgetfulness. And they have to get the base worked up enough, and KEEP them worked up enough to actually GO TO THE FRICKING POLLS in 2020. And they have to at the same time drive the people who LIKED Trump away from those polls.

      I think they are screwing up. I think they should be finding a candidate who actually might generate some real enthusiasm. If they don’t do that, then they start the 2020 cycle with one foot in a bucket. And none of the people I see them grooming seem likely generators of real enthusiasm.

      Aside; will somebody please get Chelsea Clinton into some kind of witness protection program? They’re grooming her to be her mother all over again,and it’s really ugly. Or, the glimpses I get are really ugly. In some ways uglier than grooming for child abuse. They gonna rape her mind.

      I also think they are screwing up with the media control. Trump is playing the media like a harmonium, making their partisanship obvious and laughable. And tawdry and vulgar, and if Trump is making you look vulgar you need to put your analyst on danger money, baby, NOW!

      • Und he’s just ziss guy, ya know?

      • “Aside; will somebody please get Chelsea Clinton into some kind of witness protection program? They’re grooming her to be her mother all over again,and it’s really ugly. Or, the glimpses I get are really ugly. In some ways uglier than grooming for child abuse. They gonna rape her mind.”

        Chelsea is an adult; she’s actually a couple of years older than I am. She has a husband and a child and has held down multiple “jobs.” Her character is fully formed at this point, and she knows full well what she’s doing when she campaigns for her mother and does work for the family foundation. This is not analogous to child grooming or rape. She’s making her own choices.

        If we could get Chelsea into the witness protection program so that the rest of us wouldn’t have to witness any more of this nonsense, I’d be all for that, but don’t be under the delusion that you’d be “saving” her.

        • I don’t know. Get her to a,decent deprogrammer, and she might turn out to not WANT to have her brain removed so mummy can take over her body.

        • While that’s all true, one strongly suspects she’s also under her mother’s thumb, and hasn’t really been a free actor. There have been glimmers of not-like-Hillary, but they don’t last. We won’t see the real Chelsea Clinton til Bill and Hillary are dead and gone.

          • One does get the feeling that she’s a mostly regular, ordinary, nice person deep down- if left on her own, she’d happily live with her husband out of the limelight. I don’t see that naked hunger for power that drives her parents .

      • The Dem bench is old, Old, OLD. Not millennial friendly.

        • Millenials seem to love Bernie’s dusty old rump.

          • No. Just the PUBLICIZED millenials.

            • True, but that’s not an insubstantial number. Based off of what I see, and I see and interact with a lot of millenials day to day, Bernie was big, then Hillary. I was surprised at the level of Trump support, but it was still a minority. I’d like to see some good data on how the millenials break down. I’ve seen some, but I’m leery.

              • what you see is not the truth. Kids have their lives ahead of them. They can’t afford to be out. It’s like when I started speaking out in SF/F and got thousands of secret messages supporting me, but in public those people are all good Marxists.
                When signaling left is a positional good and signaling right is the kiss of death, treating the displays as accurate is …?

              • Unless you’re a mind-reader, how would you know? Only the folks who say “screw it, the bullies can go jump in a lake” are going to risk saying anything that will get them forcibly removed from their entire social group.

                I can’t even claim any special skill there– my willingness to say “no, you’re being idiots” to the outspoken “leaders” of my generation probably has to do with being able to socialize with “adults” since I was tiny, rather than being stuck in the “I can only socialize with my year-mates, maybe one year up or down” thing that the one point two give mom a grandkid guys got.

                I’ve watched the mobs that form when some of my annoying relatives do something outrageous, like mention that a new freebee from “taxes on the rich” is actually wiping out their small business income, or question if it’s really a good idea to ban all pesticides that will kill some bees if DIRECTLY SPRAYED ON THEM. (Real, honest to goodness examples. These people are their face-to-face friends, not co-workers or associates.)

                • Whenever I try to read minds, I get into deep trouble. As I said, I only have what I observed (lots of commentary, conversation). You cut cut though the post election depression in some entire classrooms with a butter knife. I did forget to throw in the other most common category – none of the above. I wish there were reliable data about this, but as this last election showed, it doesn’t exist.

                  I will say that the best conversation I had was with a full on Bernie supporter. Very attentive, yet very indoctrinated. The kind who accepts all sorts of ingrained progressive propaganda as absolute truth. You know, the ones who say “capitalism has failed” and other such cant. Incidentally, that was how our conversation got rolling. I hit him with what we all consider very basic stuff, and it was completely new to him.

                  Not that he disagreed, he had just never even heard of it. I kept getting “that makes a lot of sense” or “I never thought about it that way.” As our hostess always says, there’s a lot of work to be done.

                  • I wish there were reliable data about this, but as this last election showed, it doesn’t exist.

                    Quite possibly it never has.

                    I started rejecting polling calls, with extreme prejudice, when my husband was deployed and I got a Gallup poller who let it slip in the course that they were counting my household in the “divorced or separated.”

                    Right, because travel for work (which deployment is) is totally what that “separated” means.

                    That’s before you get into that even when I went through school, you knew that answering something “wrong” had a way of getting out. Especially if they spent a lot of time assuring you how your answers were totally not going to come back and bite you.

                    • I gave up on any poll stuff when it became obvious as all get-out that a call was a “push”-poll and then the (of course) denial when called on it. Be biased if you must, but at least have enough decency to be honest about it? No? Fine, fold the poll five ways and shove it…

                    • I think one thing pollsters, and especially left leaning ones, haven’t quite grasped yet is that most of the right either won’t take the poll or will lie through it. I mean, who’s going to admit to owning a firearm when all the lefty politicians keep talking about banning/confiscating them? Polls don’t mean s*** now, they simply aren’t reliable when it comes to anything political.

                    • I got a push poll where the caller would say things like “what would you think if I told you Candidate X did this?” I think I annoyed her by repeating “I would do my own research and vote accordingly.”

                      If I ever answer a poll like that again, I’m going to write down the number and report them for slander-by-implication. “Oh, we never said that,” is a BS argument when they’re trying to create rumors in the first place.

                    • “[W]hat would you think if I told you Candidate X did this?”

                      OPTIONS:

                      A: “I would think you a lying sack of [manure] who deserves to be horsewhipped.”

                      B: “Did Candidate do that? If so, why not say so, if not why would you say such a thing?”

                      C: [Having been asked many such poll questions during Jesse Helms’ senatorial reign, I probably did say this] “I would think good for Candidate X!”

                • FeatherBlade

                  if it’s really a good idea to ban all pesticides that will kill some bees if DIRECTLY SPRAYED ON THEM.

                  Was talking last year to a fellow who sells honey at the local farmer’s market. He said that it’s common practice to bring hives up to the great frozen north for the summer to do the fields up here, and then take them down to California in the winter and do the groves down there.

                  Make one wonder if part of the colony collapse stuff wasn’t just the bees getting worked to death.

                  • That, high honey prices making for a higher percent of sugar water in their diet, and a CRUD TON of new bee keepers (some of which don’t understand that “bee mites” are a thing, or fungus, or…anything, they treat bees like TV robots) is what the guy on coast to coast suggests.

                    When Coast to Coast is kaboshing a possible panic thing, it’s serious…..

          • You’ve got your evil, man-hating English teacher, or the guy who looks like one of the ’70s troll dolls.
            Who do you, a media-mainstream early-20s college kid, support?

            • My thought exactly — it is not that they liked Bernie so much as they didn’t like Hillary.

            • Dorothy Grant

              No, sadly. Working with one only a few years graduated, it’s not that. It’s that they supported Hillary out of excitement to be part of history with First Woman President, but “I just want someone who cares for me. And Bernie cares about my problems, he really does.”

              What are their problems? Crushing student loan debt. Not making enough at their fresh-out-of-college-with-stupid-degree job to support their parent’s lifestyle (which they think they ought to have immediately.) The unfairness of the world!

              • I’ve seen this quite a bit among my leftier friends. “Oh, you Republicans (God forbid they find out I’m not actually one) got yours, but you won’t allow any of us to get ours. We’ll go broke with hospital bills without the ACA. We’re all in this world together so we should all pay for it. Women are still only paid a small fraction of what men are. I’m dying under all this credit card debt. We need a $15 minimum wage so I can get a raise and afford a new house/car/overseas vacation. I’m not concerned with what’s the safest way to transport oil, we need to get rid of the dirty oil and make sure the Native American lands are respected.” -What’s your degree in/Trade? “I don’t have one.” -What’s your job? “I work in a shoe store.” -You’re 30-some (some are 40-some) years old, and making not much more than what someone starting out flipping burgers makes. Have you even considered getting a different skill set? “You should support social justice for all. This conversation is stupid.” -Well, I’ll agree with you on that last one.

                • No, kamas, they usually *do* have a degree. usually a liberal arts degree with something compeltely uselesss- puppetery, underwater basket weaving, ancient greek women’s studies, etc…

                  • The puppetery-degree is one of those pet peeves I always try to correct.
                    The issue wasn’t that he got that puppetery-degree. the issue was that he was complaining how hard it was to find a job.
                    It reminded me of a cartoonist complaining on how difficult his life was and how his degree was useless.
                    This continued until somebody reminded that cartoonist that he got the same degree as Andrew Chesworth, a person now working at Disney making cartoons.
                    I still believe that no matter what degree you get, it will help you getting a job if you are willing to look for it and are willing to make sacrifices to get that job. Even the puppetery-degree will help if you apply to Henson, Disney or Laika.

                    Although I still fail to see the usefulness of a womans gender studies degree, but I assume that is because of the Patriachy-cells I got injected with when I got my Engineering degree.

                    • My issue was he was living in an area where there aren’t puppetry jobs on any scale.

                    • Dorothy Grant

                      And even if he couldn’t find any jobs in his career field – heck, take a poll of 45-year-olds and see how many of them are actually working in their degree field! Find a job, any job. Then find a job that interests you, or has something you want to learn. Doesn’t have to be your degree field!

        • I almost chocked laughing, at the person they expect to appeal to millenials. Maxine Waters. I sh*t you not. That shows their CONTEMPT for millenials, more than anything.

          • Of for… Last I heard they were planning on running Elizabeth Warren. Yeek.

          • LOL, need to wipe coffee off my… You’re kidding me, right?

          • Hadn’t heard that one, but upon reflection… I’m not surprised. Being familiar with Maxine Waters’ antics from way back… those crazy things she sometimes says are a not-very-bright mind going off-script; pretty clearly she wouldn’t be where she is today without very good handlers. Elect her, and you elect her handlers, whoever those might be.

            • There is an element of serious insanity within the Democrat Caucus, particularly within their Black Caucus. It seems nothing that Mad Maxine or Shirley Jackson Lee or Hank “Guam Tipping” Johnson or John Conyers can say or do is enough to cost them at the polls.

              This is not healthy for that party, not in the long run, nor for the nation.

              • Yep. And it’s not like smart, sane people aren’t available, but… I just had the nasty thought that the people running the Dem party (my cynical little voice inserts “George Soros and the Muslim Brotherhood”) don’t WANT smart, sane people; they want pliant puppets who aren’t quite smart enough to realise they’re being played, and if they too often sound crazy, well, no one really pays that much attention to what they say anyway.

                • Additionally those in power now only care about their. They don’t care how they got it or who will have it after them. They are the true “Me Generation”.

      • She spent too long feeding at the Clinton Foundation trough to be unaware of what’s going on. She made her choices too long ago to change.

      • I have to disagree on some points. Choice wasn’t involved in the plannng of EITHER party. The GOP “powers” NEVER conceded that Jeb wasn’t going to be their candidate, no matter how much the actual voters told him they weren’t going to vote for him*, until he wasted hundreds of millions of irreplaceable dollars to do NOTHING in the primaries. They certainly didn’t any kind of fallback for that except for a couple of overused and ineffectual spoilers like Huckabee and Santorum. They were no more adept at changing to meet the new reality than the Dems were at the unexpected reality of Berniegast the Brown.

        The Dems had a slightly different problem. They needed Bernie because they needed a Democrat the press could talk about so they didn’t need to talk too much about Hillary, because the longer you looked at her the worse she looked, physically, mentally and morally. Then comes the primaries the voters were supposed to ditch the old coot and Hillary would sail to her coronation. But it didn’t happen that way. Luckily for the Dems, they had an experienced and sociopathic fraud machine well embedded in the key districts for the primaries, so they were able to save Hillary’s ass with an illusion of actual victories. Unluckily, Hillary was even worse than they could possibly have imagined, unable to speak a civil sentence to crossover voters and running an amazingly stupid campaign for someone so long in DC, running for the popular vote in an election where the popular vote didn’t decide. And let’s face it, you do not recover from a video nationwide of your candidate being tossed into a van like a drunk on St. Paddy’s Day going viral and being replayed over and over on national television.

        *imagine a waiter repeating, “So, you’ll be having the fish, then?” over and over as you try to order the steak, or even the goddam meatloaf.

        • The Republican base that pays attention to politics in other then the run-up to presidential elections wanted Cruz. The Republican base that wanted Trump was the part that pays attention to politics one year in four. There were more of them then there were of us. The Republican bigwigs could have had Cruz as the nominee if they had thrown their support to him early. But, two things intervened. One- THEY HATED CRUZ WITH A PASSION. Two- They never thought, even at the end, that Trump would win.

          My congressional district was one of the few in NY that held Trump below 50% in the primaries. By that time, Kasich had zero chance of winning the nomination- but was still running. He took 33% in my district. 24% in my county. And- I don’t know a single person who said they were voting for him before the primary, not do I know anyone who said they voted for him after the primary. Saw no facebook postings supporting him, saw no yard signs for him anywhere I drove. I don’t live in a bubble. I saw postings for Clinton, for Cruz, for Trump, for Bernie, yard signs for Clinton, Cruz, Trump and Bernie. But absolutely nothing for Kasich. Kasich voters must live in a bubble all their own. The Republican bigwigs didn’t tell the spoilers early on to GTFO. Because they figured they’d rather go down in flames with Trump then win with Cruz. The vast majority of us Cruz primary voters pulled the lever for Trump. (Well, filled the bubble…) I’m willing to bet the Kasich voters voted for Clinton. Trump’s win came as a surprise to almost everyone except Scott Adams, Don Surber, and Trump.

          • This is probably unhealthy and Cruz is a great Senator. What do you think a Cruz presidency would be like? Yeah the GOP-establishment would probably hire a few assassins to make sure that he never too office but…

            • I rather fancy him as a member of the Supreme Court. Since the Dems seem determined to eliminate the filibuster for that bench, why not the best?

              He’s only 46, so he could easily provide us thirty, forty years of Constitutional jurisprudence, as opposed to eight years of executive leadership.

              • I can dig it. 😀

              • I fully supported Cruz (though not a Republican) for President, and think he would have been a fine one. Maybe he still will be one day. But yeah, I think his best place would be Supreme Court. With people like Gorsuch, Cruz or Gowdey on the bench we might actually get some sanity back into the law.

              • And it would also put the “What does “natural born citizen” mean?” question out of play, since there is no such requirement for the Supreme Court.

                I really want to see a Constitutional Amendment defining that phrase unambiguously.

                • There can be nothing phrased so unambiguously that the headstrong cannot quibble it, but I agree, and the sooner the better, before we run into questions of IVF or uterine replicator born citizens.

                  • I mean, for the longest time I *thought* that phrase was perfectly clear: it clearly meant someone who was born a citizen, rather than someone who had to be naturalized. But then I ran into the Blackstone theory*, which says that no, it only includes those who are born within the United States. So someone like me, who was a citizen at birth because both my parents were citizens but who was born overseas while my parents were on a two-year overseas work stint… would NOT be eligible to run for President under the Blackstone theory. That, to me, is obviously not the meaning of the phrase, but there are plenty of principled originalists who say “Yes, but it was the meaning of the phrase that the Constitution’s authors intended.” Since they never documented what they meant by the phrase, it comes down to guessing what they meant — which is why an amendment clarifying it one way or the other is necessary.

                    * Based on what William Blackstone wrote about “natural-born subjects”, and the fact that the founders were quite familiar with his work, the Blackstone theory says that when they wrote “natural-born citizens”, they meant it to be just like Blackstone’s “natural-born subjects” except that Americans aren’t subjects of anybody.

              • Why not the Taft career path?

                • I could believe the Dems attempting such but doubt any Republican president could muster the votes or public support after eight years of Democrats and MSM (but I repeat myself) whining about cruel, heartless, crony-favoring, corrupt, heartless and cruel policies.

                  • The ability of the MSM to influence public opinion is weakening by the day. OTOH, Cruz can’t run until 2024, so he couldn’t be put on the court until 2032 at the earliest, and hopefully by that time his presence on the Supreme Court will be redundant.

          • Where we’re seeing here is not two parties in opposition to each other, but two parties in opposition to each other, AND their own candidates, AND their portions of the electorate.

            In their echo chamber they sense some problems, but they’re so locked into their own narrative it’s doubful they’d be able to find the problems, much less deal with them.

            The two parties united a while back to smother the TEA party in its crib; they can still recognize competition, at least. But they don’t control communications any more, and the next threat might not be dressed up looking like a political party.

          • The Kasich supporters I saw were Democrats who wanted a choice between a **Democrat** and a Democrat. That was enough to avoid caucusing that way.

      • Christopher M. Chupik

        I’m beginning to feel some sympathy for Chelsea. The Democrats trying to mold her into Hillary’s Mini-Me can’t be healthy.

        • The amazing thing is that they managed to produce a 3rd generation Kennedy in only one generation.

    • The optimist in me thinks that getting 50% of the vote =/= having the hearts and minds* of that 50%. Considering how they’ve been purging those insufficiently progressive (ie, Progs of Pallor, especially those admitting to XY chromosomes), I think the real tally is a lot less than half.

      Yeah, we still have a lot to do.

      [*] For various values of having a mind…

      • Not counting in the massive values of fraud.

        • There is no voter fraud. That has been repeatedly reported by the same news outlets that advised us that Obama’s “The Eighties called and they want their foreign policy back” was a devastating retort to Romney’s naming of Russia as our foremost geostrategic opponent.

          Besides, it all depends on what the meaning of “fraud” is — the real fraud is the GOP strategy of suppressing voters by demanding they show proof of citizenship!

          Voting fraud by minorities is simply the best way to redress the effects of years of Southern Democrats’ suppression of the voting rights of African-American Republicans.

  9. While looking down, they might aught notice their beloved socialist utopia of Venezuela is now full of people rummaging through trash for food, and the nation with the largest confirmed oil reserves is running out of gasoline.
    But Chavez’s daughter is still a billionaire.

    • And Maduro just went to the UN for help with medical supplies and “to get the pharmaceutical companies running again.”

      • but, but, but, the gov’t took over those companies from the evil capitalists who were running them in evil ways. How could they need any assistance after the benevolent take over and consequent running into the ground?

    • They didn’t notice when Russia turned into a hellhole. They didn’t notice when Mao murdered tens of millions. They didn’t notice when Pol Pot was murdering one third of his countrymen until somebody had the bad taste to rub their nose in it. They didn’t grasp that Pinochet was ASKED BY HIS LEGISLATURE to take over the country, and they did their goddamndest to ignore that he revived the economy of Chile that Allende had been in the process of stuffing down the khazi.

      Why would they notice a little thing like Venezuela?

      The thing is, the people who really DRIVE the fashionableness of Socialism in the United States are simply looking for a theory that will excuse their hunger for power over people. Their Socialism makes no more sense than the Divine Right of Kings, and it is no more susceptible to contrary evidence.

      Which is why they would look so bloody WONDERFUL dangling from lamp posts.

      • and trees, and power poles, and bridges, and . . .

      • They didn’t notice when Pol Pot was murdering one third of his countrymen until somebody had the bad taste to rub their nose in it.

        That one was a major source of cognitive dissonance to the western Left, since it was the Communist Vietnamese that eventually got fed up and sent the Vietnamese Army in to cleaned up the mess Pol Pot made of Cambodia. Half their brain was shouting “an invasion of a Communist country! Must Make Demonstration Signs!” while the other side was shouting “The Saited Vietnamese, Victors Over the Evil USA, Are Advancing To Victory! Must Demonstrate In Support of Hi Chi Minh’s Communist Legacy!!”

      • It’s all about good intentions, man! And the fact that Che looks good on a t-shirt.

      • I will also add that in 2009 liberals got really upset when Honduras followed it’s real, genuine written Constitution and threw their President out of office. The liberal bastion of Wikipedia refers to it as a coup. But if you’re following the law… Is it?

        • I’ve been given to understand the recent unpleasantness in Turkey was also constitutionally mandated (someone boiled it down to “when the president becomes a dictator, the military are obligated to remove him”). “Coup” is often in the propaganda of the beholder.

        • Constitutions? How 1848! Every enlightened soul knows that it’s better to let the enlightened elite decide how things are supposed to be run!

  10. Sometimes I wonder at the sheer fatuous nonsense that comes out of pundits and even a few Congressmen and ask myself whether they are really that stupid, or whether they just think the public is that gullible. Something about how sufficiently advanced folly is indistinguishable from knavery?

    • All those things that can’t possibly all go wrong at once? Always do.

    • The thing is that for the most part, if you have any actual TALENT – you know, for really DOING things – you don’t go into politics. These are the smug nitwits who were running for Class President or Student Council in high school (because, unlike the Japanese schools which actually expect such bodies to do something, we don’t). They are the idiots whose education amounts to a bunch of tepid generalizations, but who think that having a college degree automatically qualifies them to tell people who actually build things what to do.

      There are exceptions. Trump may be one of them (or he may be an awful variation on the usual).

      One of the merits of a representative government is that it creates a place to put these people, where they won’t be directly screwing up the economy by trying to run important things like Pharmaceutical companies.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

        Trump “had a life” before he enter Politics.

        The jury is still out on “how good of President he’ll be” but he isn’t the “average Politician”. 😉

        • *grimace*

          Trump is a wheeler-dealer. That used to be a fairly common type of politician. He may be a throwback. Or he may be something else, something awful. We’ll see.

          And we will se because the Democrat establishment (drat them) just HAD to nominate the likes of Hillary Clinton. I used to say that Bill was the best of the Democrats’ cyclical efforts to reelect JFK. They keep running after charming, handsome men with good hair and straight teeth, who have a nice line in platitudes. JFK also had a first rate political machine from his crooked Daddy, and was moderately intelligent (he was a so-so President honestly, getting assassinated was a GREAT PR move). Bill had the hair and the teeth. He was about two thirds as charming as JFK, and half as smart. Hillary has no charm to speak of, is about a tenth as smart as her husband, and the criminal instincts of Old Joe Kennedy with none of the “keep a lid on it” instincts of JFK. Why the Democrats wanted to nominate the bitch is beyond me.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            Yeah, I’ve been wondering if Trump’s messaging is less genius at reading the people, and more atavism caused by not being really deep into the political headspace for recent decades. I don’t think his stuff, excepting maybe his leftism and his not repeating the accepted Democratic attacking points, would be exceptional for a Democratic politician of before I was born.

          • The advantage of the Kennedy assassination from the Dem perspective was that he ceased to be John Kennedy the man, a moderately liberal tax-cutter and cold-warrior, and became “JFK” the icon whose politics are whatever the speaker in question wants them to be. Kennedy got us involved in Vietnam; “JFK” would have been horrified by the whole war and gotten us out of there immediately whether or not that meant surrendering the country to Ho Chi Min. Kennedy was moderately in favor of civil rights legislation but didn’t seem inclined to spend much political capital on it; “JFK” would have gone all in in order to ensure that African-Americans had full civil rights. Etc.

          • “Why the Democrats wanted to nominate the bitch is beyond me.”

            Because the Clintons spent 20 years making sure the DNC was staffed with people who wanted them to return to power. Hillary’s every decision in life was based around being elected President. She became a Progressive after Goldwater and Nixon “proved” that Republicans were dying out, she married Bill after it became clear that her career in DC was stalled – ironically because nobody liked or trusted her – and I’d bet that Bill would have been happy being a mid-to-high priced lawyer in Little Rock, schmoozing corporate clients and banging his secretaries, but Hillary needed to climb the political ladder. She was put in charge of Hillarycare to give her policy bona fides. When that fell apart she carpetbagged into a reliably D state to run for Senate to keep her current. When she lost the 2008 primary to Barry I think she wanted to be his running mate, but even Barry wasn’t dumb enough to put her one of his heartbeats away from the Presidency.

            The greatest thing about the 2016 election was watching Hillary Clinton’s ambitions being permanently destroyed. I just wish I had video of what she did backstage at her “victory” party when word came down.

            • [H]er career in DC was stalled – ironically because nobody liked or trusted her

              It is generally ignored overlooked that the House Judiciary Committee investigating Watergate found her too partisan, too extreme and too dishonest even for them.

              Rumours abound that she was fired from Rep. Peter Rodino’s staff, but Snopes disputes that, and we all know that you can trust Snopes fully as much as you can trust the MSM.

  11. Christopher M. Chupik

    I had a good laugh when I finished and saw the word count: including title and byline, 770 words.

  12. The spells thing is odd, considering the stock oft put in ‘The Rule of Threes’. That is, what you do to/for people is supposed to come back to you in triplicate. This is supposed to be an incentive to do good rather than evil. The reality of it all, is that it’s a self-help thing wrapped in a non-clinical language. Much is extremely reminiscent of autosuggestion and the like. One great line from a text I skimmed, “You don’t cast a spell to change the world; you cast it to change yourself.”

    • Well, given how they’ve tied themselves into knots over Trump, the three-fold rebound makes perfect sense.

    • They couldn’t be bothered to curse Bin Laden or al Baghdadi apparently, but Trump they’ll hex till they’re blue in the face.

    • Also Orvan, a bit OT, but apparently a little girl is very foolishly standing in front of a charging bull in New York. Please go easy on her. She doesn’t know any better.

      • I avoid New York, myself. It’s one of those places where one needs a guide.

        • I lived in NY til 2001. So if you if need a native guide you need only ask. My info is a little out of date. When I lived in NY Bed-Sty was more dangerous than Beirut. Consider me Fodor’s guide to NYC 1997 edition.

      • And apparently they’re all concerned because drunken idiots with a juvenile mentality do to the girl’s statue what they do to all other statues of a similar size and within reach. It’s like human nature is a foreign concept to them.

        • It’s sad when a mythical creature (e.g. myself) has a better grip on reality than some supposedly real people. Poor bastages. Waking up is gonna hurt. And the so-called ‘woke’ ain’t awake.

        • Oh that statue. Silly people all around. And there are other photos of people doing… how to put it… poses that would not be preacher-approved.. to/with the Wall Street Bull. Details will be carefully refrained from. You’re welcome.

  13. Christopher M. Chupik

    I ran this by a neopagan friend of mine and she told me she found the “binding spell on Trump” to be very offensive.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

      Yep.

      That’s what I’ve heard from other neopagans.

    • My experience of the Neo-pagan community is that they are a spectrum. The ones that take the religious aspect seriously tend to look down on the New Age Religion of the Month Club, which is where the kitchen witches usually come from.

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      Consider also the pragmatics.

      If you identify as a witch, do you want your neighbors thinking you can do magic which could adversely impact their interests? Making a big show of things, and acting as though you believe you can, may persuade some of your neighbors that you can really do such magic. Or if you are using the superstitious by telling them what your spells can do, do you want your crowd of marks behaving so obviously and obnoxiously that even those who do not fear your magic will consider the question of whether hanging you is a valid safety precaution.

      • Pragmatic quibble:
        shot in the back of the head without warning would be a much safer idea, hanging gives too much prep-time.

        What was the fox-ear line, something about how it’s hard to cast a spell with a dagger in your throat.

        • BobtheRegisterredFool

          I read history and folklore (as was traumatized by an authentic depiction in a children’s book) before I got into urban fantasy and splatbook monster games, so my inner romantic feels that hanging, burning, or lawful execution ought to be to a witch what staking is to a vampire, or a silver bullet to a werewolf.

        • I believe it was Vasily Armentov who said that just before the fall of the Soviet Union, the ‘Newer, nicer KGB’ started asking arrivals to the basement of the Lubyanka “left ear or right?” (If you have a preference…)

      • As CS Lewis pointed out,
        “But surely the reason we do not execute witches is that we do not believe there are such things. If we did—if we really thought that there were people going about who had sold themselves to the devil and received supernatural powers from him in return and were using these powers to kill their neighbours or drive them mad or bring bad weather—surely we would all agree that if anyone deserved the death penalty, then these filthy quislings did?”

        • Something that’s forgotten is that the first rounds of the Inquisition went after the witch hunters rather than witches, because obviously, believing in witches was un-Godly. Of course, the Spanish Inquisition became legendary, but they were going after Jewish folk. Monetary perverse incentives and the like. (Ferdinand and Isabella needed money, after all…)

          • Nitpick:
            research has indicated that the Spanish Inquisition got a lot of the blame for what locals were doing, and then got featured in ever more lurid propaganda– and they weren’t going after Jewish folks, they were going after people who were falsely claiming to be Christian.
            The thing started (over the Pope’s extreme protest) because jealous Jews (who had to deal with extreme laws) and jealous non-Jewish-ancestry Christians were upset about the success of those families that had converted.
            That those families were owed a bunch of money by people like the king is, of course, irrelevant….

            Point being that the accused would ASK for the Inquisition, because then there were these fancy, cutting age things like “rules of evidence” and such.

            • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

              I seem to remember hearing that the Spanish Inquisition had to deal with secular criminals deliberately speaking heresy so that they’d get to stay in the SI prisons instead of the secular prisons. 😉

              Oh, apparently there was a complaint (within the “secret” SI files) that their prisons were too crowded but their prisoners should not be sent to the secular prisons as the secular prisons were worse than their prisoners deserved. 😉

    • Yes, technically, it does violate their own supposed tenets

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      Also, you don’t want to cast ‘Bind Trump’ if you don’t want to keep him around in office. You want ‘Banish Trump’, which might send him back whence he came.

      They should be trying to do the opposite of the ‘Summon Trump’ that got us here in the first place.

      That said, they probably already lost too much sanity researching and casting ‘Summon Trump’.

      • I’ve also heard it criticized as being too badly written to have any effect.

        But I have heard not only of both Catholics and evangelicals organizing prayer against it, but of other people working on counter-magic.

        • *nod* Even Coast to Coast AM got in on countering it, and about the only thing that Mr. Noorey gets that worked up about is Ouija boards.

  14. . . . the people
    Had forfeited the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?

    Berthold Brecht, “Die Lösung” [The Solution], written 1953, published 1959

    This sort of thing has happened before. . . .

  15. Excellent post.

    One of my favorite people in geekdom is Adam Savage even though we agree on very little politically but he lives in a wealthy bubble in the San Francisco area and occasionally that’s very obvious (watch him on Tested on youtube and he’ll make offhand leftist statements as if it’s just things that are true, rather than opinion).

    I watched this clip of him doing a panel or similar at a convention with a bunch of people on stage and someone asked him how to improve geek culture and his response was they should kick out anyone who wasn’t a feminist (paraphrasing here) and then he waited for applause. Only a few people in the audience applauded, the rest were silent or murmuring lightly their disagreement. Adam was gobsmacked, not at a loss for words (dude seems to have an infinite supply), but he truly believed that the majority of geeks wanted a political test based around an ever-changing and increasingly bat crap crazy political philosophy. That ‘his people’ disagreed with him clearly floored him.

    Now, it was a comment meant to get a positive reaction (dog whistling), not one to be taken seriously (What kind of political test? Must one write an essay on what Gloria Steinem means to you and how inspired you are by her in order to gain entry to a place that sells merchandise and autographs?), but it was still telling of what bubble he lives in. And how much he’s isolated from the larger community of Americans.

    He thought he knew geeks, thought we were all as left as he is, discovered we weren’t, and reacted as if struck. Caesar’s cape festooned with knives.

    Still love the dude though. He is of the body, even if he would prefer I wasn’t.

    Steve

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      Thanks, Steve. 🙂

    • Yeah he’s way way inside the tech bubble/SF bubble which is inside the CA bubble, it showed on Mythbusters as well. And yeah, i have noticed his and the other quaint little leftist factoids on Tested.

  16. Hey all! Remember Earth Hour tonight: turn lots of lights on, run a diesel generator, drive around the block a few extra times, and give thanks to your higher power of choice that we have electricity and the petro-chemical industry. (And annoy an environmental-Progressive.)

    • Dorothy Grant

      I’ll be at work, too busy to mark it. But you know, completely ignoring them works, too 🙂

    • EVERYTHING. INCLUDING LIGHTS IN THE CLOSET will be turned on for HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT HOUR.

      • Never. We have the world in our hands, and abundance literally beyond the imagining of the ancients. Therefore, we should shiver in the dark in repentance for our unworthiness.

        [242 lines unintelligible]

        Gaia weeps at your wastefulness.

        [17 lines unintelligible]

        OBEY!

        • Bumper sticker seen on a fridge at a place that started as a mining school: [BAN MINING! Let the bastards freeze in the dark.]

          It was a bit of a surprise later to recall that another was NOT there: “If you don’t grow it, you mine it.” Agriculture is mining the air. That’s right, air. Plants are made of converted CO2, mostly. AGW protests? Whining about making a better grade ore, it is.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      I always leave an extra light burning.

    • I’m driving to Fort Bliss in a moving truck that might get 10 miles to the gallon if we’re lucky.

      From Washington.

      Is this acceptable? 😀

    • Pfagh. I refuse to moderate my behaviour one jot or tittle because of some pretentious git of a holy hour. I turn no necessary lights off nor unnecessary light on. Earth Hour merits the same honoring or protesting from me as the dining rituals of [pick a group] in [pick a third-world backwater.]

    • Don’t forget modern surgery which can replace a part of your eye as an out-patient. Also give thanks for modern pharmaceuticals without which neither Steve nor I would still be alive!!

      • BobtheRegisterredFool

        Praise the Lord for cheap electricity, modern pharmacy, cheap steel, the Haber process, cheap gas (even if personally inconvenient given impact of super cheap on oil sector), the green revolution, cheap aluminum, and modern surgery. And pass the ammunition.

        • What’s the Haber process?

          • It’s the process for taking nitrogen from the air, combining it with hydrogen from methane, and making ammonia; which is then used to make ammonium nitrate, used as fertilizer.
            In a former lifetime when I was a chemical engineering student, I once went on a tour of a steel mill which used the Haber process to deal with byproducts from its primary operations.

          • Artificial fertilizers. Made from oil/coal/natural gas. Developed by Fritz Haber during WW1 when Germany was cut off from importing guano by the British naval blockade.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            Dave Freer wrote a steampunk or two based on the cleft point of it not being discovered.

            IIRC, you can also use it as a step in the cheap synthesis of nitric acid, and from there explosives. Maybe also some of the chemical weapons.

        • Indoor plumbing – never forget about indoor plumbing…

    • Patrick Chester

      I switched on all my lights, but had to cut back because it was TOO BRIGHT for my eyes. Cut a couple lights, but played some more Civ4 turns, getting closer to the point where I can build a spaceship. Eeeevil exploitation of technology.

      Oh and played a bunch of ME3 Multiplayer matches, trying to complete the Over-Cover Grab challenge again.

      Definitely NOT sitting in the dark. 😀

    • SheSellsSeashells

      Yesterday during Earth Hour we had all three computers plus the television and the air conditioner running, plus my father conceiving a sudden yen for chips and salsa and running down to the grocery store, plus the cat getting a sudden wild hair and repeatedly triggering the motion sensors of the floodlights. Best part? I realized it was supposed to be Earth Hour precisely at 9:30.

    • Completely forgot about that. Does that count?

  17. I agree with most of this post, although frankly I’d never heard of the witches casting spells on Trump or punch a Nazi. I do agree that too many people simply wall themselves off from people that have opposing viewpoints. That is one of the reasons I read this blog.
    Most of the people who voted for Clinton are not witches or nazi punchers. It is easy to make fun of the other side by pointing at few ridiculous individuals. Like the guy who showed up at Comet Pizza with guns to save the child sex slaves Hillary Clinton was holding in the non-existent basement. He is hardly representative of a typical Trump voter. The witches and Nazi punchers are not representative of a typical Clinton voter either.
    This post does raise the question, are you still blocking my comments here?

    • Given the prevalence of “witches and Nazi punchers” on our campuses and in our daily lives, I would politely suggest they are quite a bit more representative than the Pizzagate gunbunny…

    • For the love of heaven. You never heard those. And if the left aren’t all witches and nazi punchers, they should stop letting those dominate the discourse on their side. Even my colleagues are doing it.
      As for your being blocked, I just checked and I don’t know what to attribute this too except perhaps liberal paranoia. There are people who are blocked, but they’re far more annoying than your normal schtick of pretending to be clueless, like not knowing that Heinlein and Card are now loathed by the left.
      Meh, I would suspect it’s the fact you stopped capitalizing the C in Ca. WordPress is daft about recognizing handles, even of people connected enough to spell them the same way all the time.

      • *I* heard of those and I live in, roughly, “Nowhere, Middle of.” It’s not quite as isolated as a labyrinth (and the food is better…) but there are occasions when The Hot New Thing (of FIVE years ago) finally gets here. It can get… annoying. Not that I wish things to be more trendy, but that nobody realized it was a thing could skip and avoid. For example, only in the last few months have I heard “Call Me Maybe.” rather than read of it. Now I know why it was loathed.

    • I missed the witches for a while myself, but the “punch a Nazi” folks seemed to be everywhere for a while and still keep turning up on my social media feeds.

    • On line side:
      A single nut, who might not even be a conservative.

      On the other:
      half of my graduating class, a significant number of their parents, and oh yeah we can find A LOT of actual acts of violence that make the pizza shop guy look tame, that didn’t even make the news. Did YOU hear about the gun shop vandalized by the “Anti-Fas” ass in Washington? I only did because a gamer friend of mine from the ’90s is friends with the owner and he shared the “thank you for helping us with the repairs and cleaning” facebook message.

    • SheSellsSeashells

      I have multiple semi-used-to-be-wish-they-still-were liberal friends on social media who looove the whole Nazi-punching meme. Considering the times I’ve been called a Nazi for having opinions anywhere rightward of Chairman Mao, I…don’t.

  18. We already HAD the Mule in Barack Obama…

    • There is an old (The Capitol Step had on a TAPE they did supporting the protection of parody… I do not recall them ever releasing it on CD) tune from a campaign before the era of sound recording (or at least surviving sound recording – I have heard stuff recorded in the 1880’s) … “Eight Long Years of the Democrat Mule.”

  19. The best result for me from the wiretapping tweets was the pretzel twisting of the NYT as they had to factually contradict their earlier reporting while denying they were doing so in order to support todays approved #inductance narrative.

    The second best were the reports that The One was “furious” – that is what I’d call a excellent return on investment from a few tweets.

    • Inductance? Alright, which one? The ‘induction’ of what might have been said by observation of public statements… or… inductive coupling of a non-contact listening device? Or… did I miss one?

      • Well, #resistance is clearly last weeks hashtag and thus passé, and I figured by now we were past #capacitance and on to #inductance.

        If that’s wrong, is it already up to #quantumtunneling?

  20. “A friend of mine was telling me that she thinks a big part of the problem is that modern technology has made it possible for people to get away with creating their own little realities. They can just prune their social media to keep other viewpoints from intruding on theirs.” Reminds me of something GK Chesterton said:

    “The man who lives in a small community lives in a much larger world. He knows much more of the fierce varieties and uncompromising divergences of men. The reason is obvious. In a large community we can choose our companions. In a small community our companions are chosen for us. Thus in all extensive and highly civilized societies groups come into existence founded upon what is called sympathy, and shut out the real world more sharply than the gates of a monastery. There is nothing really narrow about the clan; the thing that is really narrow is the clique….The men of the clique live together because they have the same kind of soul, and their narrowness is a narrowness of spiritual coherence and contentment like that which exists in hell”

    • Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscribed In one self place, for where we are is hell, And where hell is there must we ever be.

      — Christopher Marlowe

      • “Hell is here nor are we out of it.” – Kit Marlowe

        • I saw Faust at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. They portrayed the title character as—well, I’d say the toxic end of the nerd spectrum, the one who feels put upon by everyone, and makes the demonic deal because he’s never learned restraint. (He also delivered the line about being “lustful” as though he had no real idea what he was talking about, which only underscored the point.) Great performance.

  21. Christopher M. Chupik

    Cameltoe Flappygums took exception with my post. Frau Butthurt and Clamps appear in the comments.

    I feel like I’ve really arrived now. 🙂

    http://archive.is/1sQpy

    • I tried reading that mess, I really did. I fear that, even after killing the bottle of Schwartzhog (it was small and already mostly gone, but still) and having a glass of white wine that I am still far too sober to deal with that – and this after a nearly 11-hour shift. I also have the idea that even if I drained the wine bottle (a Bad Idea) that that would not change, but I’d wake up feeling Not So Good just the same – almost as if I’d read the whole thing in deep detail. Almost.

      • Christopher M. Chupik

        If you believe the commenters, I’m an American Christian Conservative Trump-supporter.

        News to me.

        • Even.. woozy… ox not dumb enough to believe comments.

          I have no idea precisely what all you are, but at least I have the sense not to presume that I do.

        • Oh, we all are. In fact I was going to do a post on this. They don’t understand quite a number of us are not Christian, not straight, not cis anything. They divide by conformist group, so the only reason we don’t belong to them must be our unacceptably characteristics and being members of the establishment they imagine (which hasn’t existed for at least 100 years.) The scientific name for them is “Asshats.”

          • You damned fools; I don’t support Trump, I oppose you and all the totalitarian, economy destroying, mass-murdering policies you and your corrupt cabal of kleptocrats support.

    • mwahahahahah. Komissar Butthurt longs for the return to communism.

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      Someone is correct that modern nazis do exist. Except that the common term is feminist.

      This can no longer be denied after recent events.

      Anti-Jewish terrorist Rasmea Odeh was behind the ‘Day Without a Woman’ anti-Trump protest.

      This is a result of widespread feminist outrage at the election of Donald Trump, whose opponents are almost entirely motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment.

      Abortion is a core feminist doctrine, rooted in the thinking of Nazi sympathizer and collaborator Margaret Sanger.

      In conclusion, Nazis are a significant modern day political force, urgent action is needed to stop the genocide, and punching Nazis is inherently misogynist and problematic.

      Vote Pat Buckman
      Friends of Pat Buckman for President 2020

    • I noticed Flopatron is all upset that you called him out on the “punch a nazi” thing.

      This is what I love about Floppy and his fellow travelers: he’s all excited about beating people in the streets, and -we- are Nazis.

      Cherry on top, Little Yama finds safe haven there.

      Come over to my place, Yammie. The Iron Finger of Deletion is complaining it hasn’t tasted troll in a while.

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