This is a post I don’t want to write

Mostly because I’m tired and undercafeinated and I have an article and three short stories overdue.  But my guest poster failed me, and I’m not willing to run some of the guest posts in the back burner, because it’s so late, and I hate to short my writers.

However, I have a post percolating and don’t want to put it here.  So, instead, you get a collected bag of random musings.

So, yesterday we decided to go over to the other house to meet realtor.  Children, don’t try this at home.  Because Dan sort of immediately looked at the faucets and said “These have to change” (Okay, there were other points, such as that the faucets were on sale at home depot and…) So, 8 hours later…

In my defense I didn’t do much except keep Dan company.  I’m still exhausted.  Realtor will probably work out.  He’s a geek and we’re geeks, so…

So, what have I been up to other than the house and moving Robert out? Not a heck of a lot, obviously.  On the slate for today is finishing the black tide novella and writing an overdue article.

Of course I get to kill people who annoy me in Do No Harm, the Black Tide Novella:

The TV was set on news and all the anchors sounded hysterical. Though seeing Emerson Cuiper go full zombie on camera before chasing the other CNN anchors around had been completely worth it. And it was a sign of how jaded they’d got in the last few months that it warranted no more than snorts from a couple of the doctors and Lucas Fiacre, one of the Physician’s Assistants saying in his best camp voice, “Oh that is nothing to brag about,” when the news anchor tore all his clothes off.

Tomorrow I do two more short stories, then I finish Witch’s Daughter (comes after Witchfinder) this week, so I can put it up before the end of the month.  And then I’ll pivot to finishing Darkship Revenge.

Meanwhile this morning I discovered the horrors of having given my kid all five pounds of Kenyan Peaberry.  I’m on tea until younger kid wakes and I can get taken to supermarket.

Oh, the eyes.  Got new glasses prescription, even though it hurt because, money. BUT because I haven’t driven in over a year and because my prescription was so different, I’m giving my eyes time to adjust and then will start driving in neighborhood till I’m adjusted.

Oh, and speaking of driving — yesterday JUST stopped in time (my husband, driving) to NOT run over a dog that ran across the street in our old neighborhood.  If we’d hit him it would have ruined out week, probably broken his owner’s heart (beautiful, well cared for animal) and probably damaged the car, since it was a big dog.

I know pets escape — have had that happen with our cats — but today be extra careful with yours and give your pets a hug for me.

And speaking of pets — we still have Robert’s cat until after his retreat in the mountains — and the little bastage is doing the faithful dog thing and refusing to eat.  Sigh.  One more week.

Speaking of depressing — what the heck is it with even sensible people falling for Trump?

1- Item, he was a big Hilary supporter.

2- Item, he doesn’t rule out running independent

3- Item, Ross Perot spoke the same kind of populist rethoric, ran indie and gve victory to Clinton.  Amazing how this happens when a Clinton runs, isn’t it?  Heck of a coincidence.

4- He only gets away with speaking as he does and not getting destroyed in the media — yeah, they can.  They did to Palin and, oh, yeah, the tea party — because they are in on it, wink, wink, nudge nudge.  Which is why the other republicans aren’t doing what he does.

5- Trump is the only person I know — yes, even more than Jeb Bush — against whom the levels of cheating needed to elect Hilary will look like “no fraud.”

6- If because of this we elect Hilary, or worse Sanders I’m going to be seriously upset.  We don’t need our very own “Chavista” regime.

I’ve been looking at you tube for folkloric dances from Portugal.  A friend asked if I was nostalgic.  Not really.  Most of these were things I didn’t know about.

It started with # 1 son mentioning the Stick and Bucket Dance in Lords and Ladies.  I told him I knew exactly what that looked like because the Portuguese have their own version.

Tell me you can’t hear “dance you b*st*rds” in the background of that.

MOST masculine men in skirts you ever saw.

That led to this,

which for inexplicable reasons is known as “Storming the Castle” and why in heck do they have castanets?

Robert rather liked the first one, which he says should be headlined “and then we fought and stuff” but was bewildered by the second.

This led us to THIS link, which bewildered us both:

This group has much prestige because of authentic attire from “the time of Roman occupation.”  To which my son sneered “Yeah, for slaves and foreigners.”  Which is about right.

Anyway, this trip down the oddest nooks of Portuguese ethnography is because Portugal has discovered its past.

“What?” Younger son asked.  “But they do nothing else.”

Unkind, if to an extent true, because Portugal keeps ruminating on its past.  However, it’s usually its discoveries and such, iow the “progress” side of history.  Nowadays people seem to be fascinated by the “murky” past of Portugal.  The stuff when Portugal was the welcome mat of Europe where everyone wiped their genetic material.

This fascinates me because it’s the sort of history they DIDN’T teach in school.  Murky, both explaining and buried in quotidian life.  It’s interesting as heck, not that I want to revive it.

But there are things, such as when I was singing a medieval song that my mom sang to me as a baby and my son stopped me and said “you know the unknown lover is death, right?” and went on to explain the markers and suddenly the song made sense.  (There is nothing about it on line, in fact the one version online was collected from the south and adds a king and a shepherdess becoming queen, things from the renaissance, not the Middle Ages.)

In the middle of discussing that — back when we were fixing the house — my son sang this which is creepy enough to form the “spine” of an Urban Fantasy or a thriller.

That’s what’s going on in my head this morning, and why I couldn’t write a proper post.  I mean, the whole melange.

And now I’m going to have caffeine and then work.

349 responses to “This is a post I don’t want to write

  1. Random musings will do when deterministic musings are not available.
    It could be worse. You could had something like ‘Ask an Ox’ or such.
    That sounds like some odd prescription drug. “Ask your doctor if Askanox is right for you.” Or perhaps I need some Sleepinox.

  2. They have castanets because storming a castle carrying a bass drum just looks silly.

  3. “Speaking of depressing — what the heck is it with even sensible people falling for Trump?”

    “I love that TheDONALD(TM) is obliterating, enraging and humiliating the people who promised so much and delivered so little. He’s tearing the fracture in the Republican party wide open – probably irreparably. I can’t summon the will to care overmuch. The RNC very well might die from this wound – it’s deep, long and septic. I am completely resolved to this outcome – because the Republicans are choking off the sunlight and fertilizer – they are taking up space and preventing some folks TRULY interested in liberty from growing.

    Maybe that means the DemonRats run amok for a decade. I simply shrug. Once, years ago… that threat held meaning. It was a legitimate consideration when voting. But given the arrogance, condescension, (and most importantly, the track record), of the last Republican President, the Republican Congress and the witless Republican Controlled Supreme Court, I can officially declare the Prog-Nazi boogie man DEAD.”

    http://www.dethguild.com/why-vote-let-it-burn/

    • You simply shrug because you never lived under a communist regime and aren’t paying attention to what is going on in the world in the absence of Pax Americana.
      If they run this for another decade, you’ll NEVER get it back.

      • Sarah, if Jeb, VIchy Mitchy, and CryBoner run things for another decade, we’ll never get it back either. 30 million new Democrat voters (and they’ll be voters whether they get the fig leaf of citizenship or not) will screw down the coffin lid.

        • Sigh. Yes, we will.
          How many times do I have to repeat “Politics is downstream from culture and culture has just started turning?”
          I don’t like “the same but slower” any better than you do, but it DOES give us elbow room to work. Elbow room to work gives us a chance.

          • The comments that I’ve seen supporting Trump (and I don’t support him) seem to fall into one of two categories –

            1.) He’ll save us from Jeb! This ignores the fact that one in thirteen Americans saw Jeb give what is generally described as a very lackluster performance last Thursday. Even the Evil Overlords of the Establishment (EOotE) can’t elect a guy without a minimum level of enthusiasm. And at this point it looks very much like Jeb might not be able to clear that very low hurdle.

            2.) All of the other candidates are establishment RINOs! From what I’ve seen, people making this argument automatically believe that everything that every other candidate says that might imply conservatism is a lie to get themselves elected (whereupon they can reveal their RINO colors). It doesn’t matter what a given non-Trump candidate says. If what they said sounds encouraging, then they’re lieing. And there’s no evidence that you can present to convince the Trump supporter otherwise.

            • I saw exactly this with Perot. My inlaws voted Perot.

            • re: Point 1
              Jeb’s lackluster performance may (emphasis on the subjunctive) have been part of a longer term strategic decision to lay back and let the rest of the kids fight. He might conceivably holding his fire until the probable alternative is identifiable.

              re: Point 2
              Yeah, that Ted Cruz is the epitome of RINOdom. All he’s done since he got into the Senate is go along to get along. Same thing with Rand Paul, butt-boy to Mitch McConnell. Scott Walker sure has shown he’s a business-as-usual politician, too.

              As with war, political chatter seems to follow the rule: them as talks about it don’t know what it is, them as knows what it is don’t talk about it.

              • Which is why Cruz has gotten my money so far.

                However, did your “know what it is” take note of what happened in MS in 2014? And Jeb Bush’s announced strategy to “win without the base?” Let me connect the dots:

                RINO losing his primary: “Hey, Democrats! If you want a Republican candidate who’ll give you everything you want with only Kabuki resistance, come on over and vote for us in our Open Primary. Otherwise, those raaaaacist Tea Party types outnumber us, and you know what they’re like.”

                Worked like a charm in Mississippi, where it was the most obvious. Now it’s time to go national.

                • If your scenario is right, then nothing we do matters and there’s nothing to do but stockpile goods against the coming collapse.

                  I’m not ready to buy that line of defeatism yet, and I very very much doubt your mien is near so gloomy as mine. My Slavic ancestors long ago looked at the last pages of the Book of Life and determined how it ends: everybody dies. So, die well, fighting to the end. But don’t slay the wife and kids until there is no recourse — who knows, that little shrimp just may manage to drop that friggin’ ring into the lake of fire.

                  • iirc, Mississippi had a primary run-off. Otherwise, all of the Democratic primary voters who “came over” would have been voting in the Democratic primary.

              • My take on Trump is that he is playing a spoiler, or a dummy. He will attract people who are disenchanted with the current leadership of the Repubs and then either throw his support to Jeb! or do the third party for Shrillary’s victory. IMHO the parties are similar, and are the tools of the oligarchic interests. It’s more than defeating Democrats only, as the current President has mainly carried out the statist policies of the Bushes. The ordinary voters need to establish a non professional base of politicians who represent them, instead of Republocrats or Demicans who represent industry/banks and the entrenched powers. I think Heinlein wrote a book about how to do it, I/m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned more in this blog.

            • Trump picked up a good bit of support when he was willing to touch topics the rest of the republican leadership treats as radioactive, and because he was willing to gore the leadership’s sacred cows.

              The catch is, he’s demonstrated he isn’t willing to gore the left’s sacred cows, and with the last debate, he showed he is unable to handle a hostile media. He’s just to much of a delicate flower to actually win.

              Walker has been frustratingly quiet through the run so far. It will be interesting to see if he can make himself noticed.

              • Exactly. There are plenty of conservatives who enjoy La Donald imensely with a snowball’s shot in… NE Brasil of voting for him. Ever. Especially since I’m with Ms. Hoyt in opining that he’s on Team Hilary.

                The Dems spoiling our primaries, is to my mind a greater threat than is Trumps play-pretend truthiness.

                • Power Line blog noticed an interesting perspective, arguing that Trumpism and Sandersism represent American instances of the trends noticed in Europe, as embodied in the campaigns of UKIP’s Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen and Silvio Berlusconi as well as the Scottish National Party, Danish People’s Party, Podemos in Spain and Syriza in Greece.

                  For over seventy years the political landscape in most of the Western world has been in unnatural stasis. There were predictions after the fall of the Berlin Wall that the American parties would be disrupted, having lost the unity imposed by the Soviet Threat. Maybe that disruption is boiling over, and perhaps to understand the disruptions represented by Perot, Trump and even Obama and Sanders we need to view them from a greater perspective.

                  Of course, America has almost always had a fondness for bombastic populist political candidates, as far back as Andrew Jackson, founder of the modern Democrat Party. (Remember, to the Founders democracy was nearly a swear word.)
                  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/why-trumpism-is-a-global-phenomena.php

                  • Makes sense. Most historians (except for Paul Johnson) fail to realize that populism is an entirely separate thread: neither left nor right, but integral to U.S. politics.

              • I wonder if Walker has been quiet or if the media has him in the cone of silence they very effectively used on Romney during the campaign in 12.

                • Reality Observer

                  Walker is a quiet person – which is why he is ignored.

                  Commercial media will always pay attention to the bloodiest, the loudest, the saddest, the scariest – if they don’t, they don’t survive.

                  Non-commercial media is not the solution, either. Whether it is a wealthy private person (think Koch or Steyer, to approximately cover both ends of the spectrum), or a government that supports it – it will inevitably slavishly follow the views of it’s benefactor when doing its “calm, rational, and unbiased” reporting.

                  The only way to dig out the truth is to go to the sources for the information – when you can lay hands on them. The only useful “journalists” in my opinion are those few who force the disgorgement of those sources.

        • The difference between the trio you cite and the alternative of Shrillary, Schmuck Chumer and Nancy Botox is that the former will have to listen to our views while the latter will tell us what Obama said to Jewish community leaders convened at the White House for briefing on the iran Deal last Tuesday: “Lay Off the Iran Deal, and I Will Lay Off You” (more accurately phrased as: know your place and mind you stay in it or I’ll take my cudgel to you.)

          We can and have primaried the Republicans whose spines need stiffening. Republican county committees are easy enough to get onto and real, lasting change builds from the ground up. Remember Friedman’s dictum about creating a climate where politicians do the right thing because it is politically profitable.

          “Burn it down” may be emotionally satisfying but all it leaves are infertile ashes.

        • …if Jeb, VIchy Mitchy, and CryBoner run things for another decade, we’ll never get it back either.

          No. It’s all about the appointments. There’s a chance if the party-in-power switches back, a lot less otherwise.

          When the R side has the power these days, they generally appoint responsible bureaucrats to the politically appointed positions throughout the vast Federal bureaucracy, along the lines of most administrations back through the latter half of the 20th century. Sure there are slimes in the mix of R appointees, but the general run of the mill appointees are not ideologues, and while the bureaucracies follow the Iron Law and try to expand, they do it as an equal opportunity operation in most cases. At minimum they have the power to sometimes fight some of the permanent bureaucracy’s lunges towards the left.

          When a D administration appoints these days, however, they pick true believers – see Lois Lerner as just one example that’s been unmasked of the thousands that were appointed as the result of electing The Great and Powerful Ob twice. This harkens back to what FDR did. When that happens for 8 years it’s bad enough – when it happens for 12 or 16 years, when the politically appointed biased operatives get to direct hirings and promotions of the permanent (i.e. non-appointed) bureaucracy to make sure they, too, are ideologically pure, is we have real, serious trouble in River City

          You can trace this effect of FDR’s “president for life” appointment power over the following 30+ years of bureaucratic growth, as the non-appointed bureaucrats who were hired and promoted as loyal underlings to FDR’s political leftist true-believer appointees in the 1930s and 40s (well, those who were not outed as Soviet spies) had their way with the US through teh 1970s.

          Even though I think a Trump admin would be an unmitigated disaster for the USA, with Russia for one playing The Donald like a cheap harp, the mid level appointed bureaucrats under that admin would probably (hopefully) not be populated with D-leftist-purist appointees, and that would be far, far better than the results under the admin of the Dowager Empress of Chappaqua.

          • To say nothing of the Supremes, who will be shedding Justices over the next 8 years.

            • EXACTLY!! While I am not much pleased about Justice Roberts or Kennedy, they are a damn sight better than the Ginsburg/Breyer/Sotomayor/Kagan type appointments we can expect in a Hillary/Sanders/Whoever administration. We might even get another Thomas, Scalia or Alito if the Republicans retain Senate control. (It was because the Dems ran the Senate hearings that we got Kennedy instead of Bork; if you cannot see the difference in the two you are not paying attention.)

              • You mean the appointments that Vichy will allow the Democrats to continue to filibuster? Or like John “It’s a Tax!” Roberts?

                • All we are getting is Communism Camo’ed. To quote Lincoln, “I’ll take my despotism pure.: Maybe enough people will get mad enough to fight.

                  • Maybe — but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it. Not all that many fought to assert those rights in 1776. Do you really think contemporary Americans of such stouter stuff that you’d roll the dice on that?

                    • 3% was all it took then; I figure we’ll have that many now, as soon as enough people figure out that the ills have become insufferable.

                    • 3% … And the French Navy.

                    • Montrose’s Toast.

                    • It ain’t your barn you’re talking about burning, nor your horses and equipment inside. Sure, and didn’t Lenin. Chavez and Castro all make the same toast? How are you different?

                    • Then lick the chains. The Founders took the same chances, whether you admit it or not.

                    • Lick the chains

                      Really, is that what you’re reduced to?

                      The Founders lacked a viable alternative to rebellion. You have failed to make a persuasive argument that we are similarly in want.

                      Nor does it seem reasonable to now rely upon the French navy.

                    • I’m sure it looked completely viable at the time…. no risk at all.

                • Roberts and Kennedy are still better than Sotomayor or Ginsburg. Go read rulings (or dissents) from each. I agree with RES that the former two are disappointing, but with one or two more of the latter on the court – just forget about it.

                  For the Supreme Court aspect alone it is really critical that the Presidency, and as much of the Senate as possible, are R for the next 4 and hopefully 8 years. I just don’t think the non-crazy justices can all hang in there until 2025.

                  Will the Republic survive the Dowager Empress or even Trump? Yes.

                  I’d expect the VP to take over in the first 4 years if Hillary wins, by the way – that woman is not well – and if Trump were to win, expect he will be nuts enough that the Ds and Rs cooperate to impeach the bastage by year 3. So we are actually going to get whoever is second on each ticket, and since neither party will pick another Crazy Uncle Joe as impeachment insurance with one of those on the top of the ticket, they will likely be less bad (Warner for D and Fiorina for R maybe?).

                  But all the executive branch appointments below the radar are much better off in R hands than D.

                  • Trump would pick Ron Paul to CYA. Of course, he’s not in this to win just to throw bit to the Dems.

                  • > I’d expect the VP to take over in the first
                    > 4 years if Hillary wins, by the way – that
                    > woman is not well

                    FDR didn’t care much for any of his VPs. George Marshall was effectively President during the war years, in collaboration with FDR’s staff.

                    FDR didn’t like Truman *at all* and barely spoke to him before dying. So Truman showed up at Potsdam with no idea of the personalities of the other leaders, among other problems, such as the verbal agreements between FDR and Churchill.

                    • Billy Jeff hated Al too – didn’t stop them from smiling together when required, though Al still has a beef with the big C machine for underbacking his campaign in 2000

                • IS your objection to allowing continuance of the filibuster? Is it that you approve of cutting down all the legislative windrows in pursuit of the Devil?

                  As the playwright used Thomas Moore’s mouth to ask:
                  “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!”

                  The Democrats under Reid uprooted the protections against the burning breezes of popular discontent and you’d fan the flames leaving all in ashes. Do you ‘spect conservatives to retain legal authority forever? You can’t out pander a populist, so you best keep some of those hedges to shelter behind.

                  • RES, what I’m in favor of is a society where both sides follow a social compact. Since we will never have that again because the Left isn’t honest enough to keep to it, I’m in favor of using every weapon we’ve got on the ones that started it.

                    So YES, as soon as the Democrats went nuclear on the filibuster, we should have taken that weapon away from them once we had the capacity to do so, and then used it against them to get rid of all of their programs by simply refusing to fund them.

                    • Politically, the power of the purse is a dead letter, since the Democrat propaganda organs will always portray it as the GOP’s fault and play up the negative impacts, even if the Democrats have to create them (barracading the open-air memorials).

                      Personally, I think the filibuster should have been stripped day one of this Congress with the message being that it wouldn’t be restored until 1) Harry Reid was no longer in the Senate and 2) the rules were changed to require a 3/4 majority to change the rules. At the very least, we could have won the executive amnesty battle by making it impossible to filibuster conference requests. That’s why I shall always refer to the current senior Senator from Kentucky as McClellan.

                  • And as for cutting down the laws, that ship has sailed. The laws don’t mean anything beyond what they figure will be enough lip service to prevent open rebellion.

              • William O. B'Livion

                Given Bork’s position on a lot of things (well, off the top of my head Gun Control, and he’s a bit fond of big government *IIRC*) I’m not sure he’d have been all that much better than Kennedy. Different symptoms, different problem.

          • “No. It’s all about the appointments. There’s a chance if the party-in-power switches back, a lot less otherwise.”

            You mean the appointments that Vichy will allow the Democrats to continue to filibuster? Or like John “It’s a Tax!” Roberts?

            Pull the other one. It’s got cowbell.

            • No, not the top ones that get press – I’m talking about the mid level and below that just sail through. Nobody even notice Lois Lerner’s appointment, and look what she accomplished.

        • I was born in 1955. Since then, the Republicans have controlled the Presidency and both houses of Congress for a whopping whole entire 4 years. 4 years out of 60. Democrats- 16 of 60. Democrats have controlled both houses for 38 years. Republicans -10. And in the all important house where the budget is set- Democrats for 44 years, including 40 straight.

          And the Republicans have never come close to holding the type of majority that the democrats have had. And turncoats like jumpin’ Jim Jeffords and election steals like Carnahan in Missouri have given control of the senate to the Dems, rather then actual elections. It would be nice to give the Republicans at least two full terms of control of both houses and the Presidency to see how they could actually run things. As Rush has said, the biggest problem with Republican control, especially in the Senate, is that they refuse to act like they ARE in control.

          Info from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Presidents_and_control_of_Congress#/media/File:Combined–Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png

      • Perhaps gamegetterII should look at what Chavista policies have achieved in Venezuela? Or look at what “Smart Diplomacy(TM)” is in the process of achieving in creation of an arms race in the Middle East (where they haven’t fomented chaos by deeming existent power structures too icky for us to work with (but Iran’s Mullahs are merely pragmatic politicians, as demonstrated by their handling of the Green Revolution.)

        Or maybe gamegetterII just loves Obamacare’s section 9010 41 percent increase in excise taxes on all insurance purchases?

        A long ago learned lesson was to never say a fellow employee should be replaced, that management “couldn’t possibly hire anyone worse” — because management inevitably will. As bad as the GOP is, the difference between them and the Democrats is the difference between a fatal but treatable disease and a high speed car crash. With timely treatment you can possibly recover from the first but with the second even onlookers are in danger of grievous harm.

        • I was just thinking about Venezuela. How many years did it take before they ran out of toilet paper?

          • Ten, I think. You know, I have family there. It’s worse than you think.

            • Wouldn’t surprise me, even though I’ve been paying some attention to the stories coming out of that country.

              • For Christmas, when it’s traditional in Portugal to have cabbage and other greens, my uncle’s new wife foraged WEEDS. Because there was no cabbage for sale. Even the Soviets never managed to run out of cabbage.

                • Ew… cabbage.

                  Yeah, that’s pretty bad. Meanwhile, here in the US, I have to wonder how many people are even aware of cabbage aside from “that lettuce that cole slaw is made from”.

                  • Professor Badness

                    As a devotee of Corned Beef and vegetable sze-chuan, (and the large number of people I have introduced it to) I have to agree.
                    Cabbage is delicious in the right circumstances/context. But when done poorly, it’s no good.

                    • I find that simply slicing the cabbage head moderately thinly and cooking it in beef broth with some pepper until it’s al dente is plenty good enough for me.

                    • I like traditional cabbage soup (at least our version, boil sliced cabbage and put in some roasted hamburger meat, season to taste and it doesn’t necessarily need anything but black pepper and salt), and use the new stuff in summer in salads. Both easy to make. But yep, if a country can’t even keep that on the shelves…

                    • At least it’s incredibly cheap here: Usually 49 cents a pound at the stores I shop.

                    • Back when carbs were not an issue a household favorite was broadly shredded cabbage, sliced onions and Chinese noodles cooked with a curry powder seasoning. The trick, of course, is to not overcook the stuff.

                      For entrees (for non-vegetarians) a couple of chicken breasts, shredded and sauteed (stir-fried) works well. Beef (and/or Pork) produces a bolder flavour, of course and if you have mastered cooking rice noodles (mei fun) then you are well on your way to delicious Singapore-Style noodles!

                    • My own favorite is Kung Pao Cabbage

                    • William O. B'Livion

                      Right circumstances being chopped up raw and soaked in vinegar for a while.

                    • You know, far all this talk of ways to eat cabbage, I find it hard to believe no one has mentioned the best way… sauerkraut.

                • There’s a similar custom in Dixie, except it’s black-eyed peas, not cabbage.

                  Cabbages aren’t a normal food here; they’re grown, but more likely exported or used as animal feed than served at the table.

                  Instead of cabbage, Southerners eat “greens”, which are the leafy foliage that grows on top of cabbage. I’m pretty sure lawnmower clippings are also involved.

                • The Soviets often couldn’t figure out how to transport cabbage before it rotted. I’ve seen photographs of great piles of it, but yeah, no actual shortage.

                • It’s getting bad in Brasil, as well. Lula’s £@#! protegee has erased so much progress toward economic success and rule of law, it makes me want to punch an SJW in the zatch.

            • Factor in they have (had) cheaply produced oil sold at generous mark-up. Without that their economy wouldn’t have lasted half so long.

              Worse than I think???? Unlikely. Riots in grocery stores and Soviet-esque lines for basic commodities always seem the inevitable consequence of such policies. Odd how price-gougers, hoarders and black-market profiteering seem so common in Command economies and so rare in Demand economies.

              Local food producers ranging from neighborhood bakeries to an industrial pasta maker have halted or slowed operations for lack of raw materials or machine parts. …

              Lines are increasingly filled with smugglers who buy subsidized goods and resell them at a profit on the black market or in neighboring Colombia, generating tension between resellers and those trying to stock their own kitchens.
              http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/socialism-crumbles-in-venezuela-but-democrats-think-its-a-great-idea.php

              Also odd how often cronies of the party in power seem to benefit from those black markets. Must be coincidence.

            • I wouldn’t be at all surprised. You don’t see much reporting on what is happening there because the media sees it as a glorious communist state where nothing is wrong. ::rolls eyes hard::

        • I’m fully aware of Chavez and what did/has/is taking place in Venezuela.
          I think 2010 and 2012 showed that the left doesn’t have the numbers to move farther left-without causing people to take to the streets.
          I’m also fully aware of the very long list of utter failures in foreign affairs by the current admin-complete clusterf*cks that go back long before the current Iran deal and the ensuing ready set go race for nuclear supremacy in the Middle East.
          Point out where I have ever-anywhere on the ‘net supported any part of Obamcare?
          Why hasn’t the GOP got rid of Obamacare-or even made an effort?
          Why hasn’t the GOP done anything to stop NSA spying?
          Why hasn’t the GOP done anything to stop police militarization?
          Why hasn’t the GOP done anything to slow/stop illegal immigration?
          Why hasn’t the GOP done anything to stop the importation of “refugees” from the Middle East and North Africa who hate America,and have no intention of assimilating to the culture?
          Why hasn’t the GOP done anything about Obama’s unconstitutional / illegal executive orders?
          What exactly has the GOP done to oppose the leftist policies of the current admin-other than go along with every single one of them?
          The difference between the Democrats and the GOP is now negligible at best.

          • On all of your “Why hasn’t the GOP …” questions I reply: What, exactly, do you think they could have done? Explain exactly how they would overcome Obama’s veto.

            If you think I am going searching the web for your prior statements your grasp on reality is more tenuous than I previously imagined — and I have a very good imagination. Nor would such statements prove a thing that isn’t already observable. My comment was a sarcastic* pointing out of a particularly invidious component of Obama’s bollixed pretense to “reform” health care in this country, actuallly nothing more than an attempt to destroy the free market in health care delivery in order to impose his preferred state-run (insert fascist-reference of preference) single-payer market (already occurring as health insurer mergers reduce the number of players) directed by bureaucrats with no accountability to consumers. VA For Everyone!!! Yayyyyyyyy!)

            Your criticisms of the GOP failure to engage in pointless doomed activities merely to assuage the frustrations of a base to small to retain them in office indicate either Concern Troilism or utter ignorance of how a democratic republican polity functions. I share the frustration with Republican leadership but that does not make me blind to the differences between them and the Democrats. For one thing, look at the various investigations into IRS and other abuses, Security failures and malfeasance in office that would be swept under a Democrat rug if the Republicans weren’t running Congress. Think about the appointments that are not happening because there is no way the current Congress would rubber-stamp them the way the prior congress did. Think about the Supreme Court nominees that won’t be made.

            The time to condemn the Republicans is when they are not handcuffed with only a hand-break at their disposal. it is easy to complain about what they haven’t done, but such complaints ignore the reality of what they could have done — which is damned little.

            *presumably you have some familiarity with the term.

            • I gave upon the GOP in 2010
              Matt Taibbi was right…

              “Watch and see if that doesn’t become the template for presidential campaign coverage in 2012. See if those reality-show zoom-ins don’t start to creep into interviews with candidates. This is the beginning of our big Lost in Space journey together, where news and reality-show programming fuse completely and we all end up complete morons, voting strippers and X-games athletes into the White House. I’m psyched. Are you?”

              Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-five-funniest-things-about-the-lebron-james-global-superdouche-broadcast-20100711#ixzz3iRvdktU8

              • So wait, you are saying a stripper would be worse?

                I’ve been acquainted with some really sharp strippers, very savvy business ladies, who happen to draw their personal nogo lines on the other side of showing some skin to finance things like an MBA or Law School. There were some for whom I would vote.

              • If you’re looking to Rolling Stoned and Matt Taibbi for your political analysis I don’t think there’s anything more that needs be said.

                At least, nothing that wouldn’t amount to argumentum ad hominem.

                Actually, citing those sources constitutes a self ad hominem argument. Talk about your admissions against interest … Why not just take your analysis straight from Daily Kos, Dem Underground and the DNC (but I repeat myself.)

                • Point out where the quote I posted is wrong

                  • Point out where it contains a single relevant demonstrable fact.

                    I will stipulate that Taibbi and you are arguably “complete morons”. The remainder is hyperbole, as irrefutable as it is inane.

                    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                      Why am I thinking about David Weber’s line about “a battle of wits with an unarmed man”? [Evil Grin]

                    • Right,and you’re a genius,because you are right,and anyone with a differing opinion is wrong.
                      The GOP has done nothing,will do nothing,and is useless as a viable means of undoing the damage the left has done.

                    • Whether I am a genius is irrelevant as proof of my being right, as any number of geniuses and super-geniuses have amply demonstrated (including the current occupant of the White House.)

                      I am right (if I am) because I can (and have) supported my position with evidence and reason. Thus far that is a strategy untried by anyone* with a differing opinion. When and if such a dissenting view deploys such tactical elements i will review my conclusions based on such arguments.

                      Your stating something (e.g., “The GOP has done nothing,will do nothing,and is useless …“) is insufficient to demonstrate that assertion as fact. Nor does it present a utilitarian route forward. it is insufficient to prove that Option A is flawed; you must also prove Option B viable.

                      *Well, to be honest, only you, gamey; others here have employed a few arguments with some evidence but they were unpersuasive.

                  • My good fellow, you are falling into the SJW trap that reads: all progs need is to be mostly not Republicans. All conservatives need to be practically perfect in every way.

                    Politicians as a set suck. Even Reagan was a colossal disappointment on any number of near and dear to me libertoid issues. But! And¡ He still did a whole lot of anti-proggood. Yes, thehe GOP sucks. We need to hold their feet to to the fire. At. Every. Primary.

                    Have you done this? Get to work! We’re supposed to be citizens and free men not whinging SJW serfs sucking at the tit of other folks’ accomplishments.

                • By the way-I said nothing about Taibbi or Rollin Stone having anything to do with political analysis-I simply stated the man is right-the article was about Lebron James-not politics.

                  I gave up on the GOP after the Tea Party people who were elected were shut down by the establishment GOP-that took place in 2010,if you recall.
                  The GOP has done nothing other than assist the Democrats and Obama in imposing their agenda.
                  Nothing improved after 2010,nothing improved after 2012,and nothing is going to improve after 2016-both parties are functionally the same,out for themselves,corporations,and the current version of government.

                  • You quoted it in the context of a statement about political facts, as reason for having given up on the GOP. That makes it political analysis.

                    My interest in the in the cultural analysis to be found in Rolling Stone can be summed up as “yaw…” — not worth a full yawn. I lost any interest in that aspect of their magazine when they stopped publishing P. J. O’Rouke and Hunter S. Thompson.

                    Your other statements are risible, mere uninformed ill-informed opinion and not worthy of taking seriously. You offer nothing superior, merely whine about the choices available. I would recommend you grow up but that doesn’t seem an option.

                    I could cite numerous ways in which the T.E.A. Party has moved change within the GOP at local and state levels and even at the Federal, but it isn’t worth my time and I doubt your attention if you are not already aware.

                    • The Tea Parry effect was/is negligible.
                      So,my opinions are uninfomed,ill-informed, I’m a moron-and you are superior in all ways,know more about everything,and only you can have “correct”opinions-you think far too much of yourself.
                      My opinions are far from ill informed,or uninformed.
                      Again-you believe your ideas and opinions are the right ones-and that anyone who disagrees is wrong.

                    • The Tea Parry effect was/is negligible.

                      That is an assertion of opinion, absent fact and in contradiction of facts which have been asserted and not refuted.

                      My opinions are far from ill informed,or uninformed.

                      Undemonstrated and unsupported. Assertion of facts not in evidence.

                      you believe your ideas and opinions are the right ones-and that anyone who disagrees is wrong.

                      Do you even <I<have a mirror?

                    • “The Tea Parry effect was/is negligible.”

                      Yes-it is an assertion,it’s also an assertion that’s a fact.
                      The topic was GOP being worthless,and having done nothing to attempt to stop this admins agenda.
                      The Tea Party has nothing to slow or stop the Obama admins agenda-not a damn thing,and that sir is fact.

                    • Shocking as this may sound, but your asserting something does not make it a fact. not even if you say it really LOUD.

                      Moreover, even if we stipulate to your facts, you have failed to offer a viable alternative or solution. So, what we come down to is you are whinging about your nappies needing to be changed.

                    • I never claimed I had the solution,only that the GOP ain’t it.
                      Prove my assertion wrong then Mr. I’m a freakin’ genius,point out one thing the GOP has done to slow or stop the left since Obama was sworn in in Jan.’09.
                      You’re the one who’s got your panties in a bunch,not me.
                      What we come down to is you have nothing to show my assertion is wrong,so you resort to name calling and personal insults-that’s what we come down to.
                      Have a wonderful evening sir.

                    • Tsk. The burden of proof, dear lad, is on your shoulders. T’was you were the one making an unsupported claim. I know it is painful to have to defend a claim without evidence, but that’s how life is.

                      I am certainly glad to note you disdain “name calling and personal insults” and would never resort to it.

                      You will understand that I have no interest to spend my time enumerating the achievements of the Republican Congress, nor the environmental and Constitutional factors limiting those achievements (they still, for example, can’t overturn a veto.) Nor would I expect you to acknowledge any such achievements no matter how persuasively presented.

                      But please do not disrespect us by claiming as fact that which is merely your opinion, especially as you appear unable to provide any evidence informing your views.

                    • Again-exactly what has the GOP done to stop Obama and the left since 1/2009?
                      Nothing,nada,zip,zilch,zero,that is a fact-whether you like it,want to admit it,or just want to appear as if you’re a freakin’ genius-which you are not-it remains a fact-and there is nothing to refute that fact.

                    • Since 1/2009? Gamey, the Republicans didn’t hold a majority then; couldn’t even hold a filibuster. See, in order to play the game you have to be on the field. In the House the minority gets nada, zilch, nichts, borscht. In the Senate, especially once Harry Reid threw out all the rules the minority doesn’t even get that much. So tell, me boyo, what could the GOP have done?

                      After they got the majority in the House they could send bills to the Senate to die. Man, that sure would’ve shown Obama, eh? They could (and did) refuse to authorize spending and shut down the government. How’d that work out? Especially since, with a small minority, they are only as strong as their weakest links (and they had some mighty weak links, representatives who won with sparse majorities, like Allen West, for whom who the Dems were licking their chops for a rematch.)

                      The Republicans have held control of the Legislature for just about eight months now — how freaking much did you expect them to do in that period? Especially with Obama holding the veto lever and abusing the executive branch authority? What mechanisms, pray tell, are available for the Legislature to block his implementation of this dogs’ breakfast (I insult dogs’ breakfasts here) of a deal with Iran? You want they should withhold funds for the DoD?

                      If you are gooing to complain they have done nothing perhaps you ought ante up something they could have done.

                      You see, i don’t have to be a “freakin’ genius” … I don’t even have to be smarter than you; I merely have to be better informed, which is appallingly easy.

                    • “You see, i don’t have to be a “freakin’ genius” … I don’t even have to be smarter than you; I merely have to be better informed, which is appallingly easy.”

                      Only in your mind Mr. genius.
                      The GOP could have made an effort in the senate -instead-GOP members voted with dirty Harry-multiple times.
                      Even Cruz folded-no one in the GOP has a spine-or balls.
                      Shut the government down-so what,the talking heads get their panties in a wad,and claim every GOP member is the devil incarnate-so f*kin what-nothing that hasn’t been said 1,000 times by MSLSD,NY TImes,Mother Jones,Rolling Stone,VOX,et-al.
                      It hurts what?
                      Not a damn thing-shut. it. down.

                    • So, you want pointless self-destructive action for the sake of assuaging your anger?

                      When did you last cut off your nose to spite your face?
                      (Other than rhetorically on this site today?)

                    • It’s going to self-destruct anyhow.

                    • I bow to your impeccable logic and irrefutable fact.

                      Keep cutting parts off and your face will assuredly self-destruct. Smacking it on your keyboard will also achieve that.

                    • Right-because you have all the answers-the rest of us who are sick of the bullsh*t are 100% wrong,we have no legitimate grievances.
                      We’ve tried for years to get some kind of meaningful resistance to the left-and we get know it alls like you.
                      Try reading what the man had to say at the links I provided that started this meaningless discussion-because his views,and my views do not matter-THAT is the problem.
                      Toe the party line or chaos will ensue-eff that the GOP can FOAD.
                      Let It. Burn.

                    • Gamey, you have not offered a single substantive rebuttal to a single one of the numerous points I have made, other than the abysmally irresponsible “Burn it down.” You need to learn to distinguish between light and heat; so for you’ve provided the latter aplenty but precious little of the former.

                      I’ve looked at your links and wasn’t impressed. Your views don’t matter because you’ve completely failed to support them with any argument beyond “I’m frustrated and angry.” Well, sir, so am I, so am I. But I see a possible path toward eventual rectification of the problem and the path you demand seems far more likely to empower those who would destroy our liberties and deny our rights. You “burn it down” firebrands had your tantrum in 2006 and yielded us Pelosi and Reid and two years of exploding deficit spending.

                      You threw another hissy in 2008 and we got Obama. Now you’re infuriated because the problem cannot be instantly corrected?

                      Pardon me for finding you unpersuasive. The only person here putting up the Obama-ish strawman argument of “Toe the party line or chaos will ensue” has been you.

                      So I recommend on election day you stay home, or vote Socialist or Democrat or Natural Rights, Libertarian or whatever party owns your true allegiance — or even FOAD. Your arguments here today have probably done more to convince folks your path is disastrous (not that many were likely to need persuading) than that your position is reasonable.

                    • Gamey, I am impressed: two — not one, but two lame cartoons! Your self mockery is impressive.

                      That fact that each cartoon is extremely lame and makes its point with a bludgeon simply enhances the self defenestration of your claims.

                      On top of all that blunt stupidity you found a site which floes the “Stars ‘n’ Bars”, the flag of the Democrats, under which they fought to dissolve the Union, protect their right to own people as property and which has been flown proudly at Klan rallies and in defiance of Civil Rights legislation by over a dozen Democrat governors.

                      And golly gee, both links in that post lead to an idiot, venting their spleen but making little sense, by people who brag about voting to keep Obama in office another four years simply because they were too “pure” to vote Romney.

                      Please try to make an actual argument sometime. You know, one of those things with facts, preferably in evidence, and using logic (valid if you can achieve that) to support a proposition. To date all you’ve conveyed is distemper.

                    • Now who’s the “ignorant one”?
                      The KKK flew the stars and stripes one hell of a lot longer than the remnants of the KKK flew the stars and bars.
                      You’re the one with distemper-maybe heartworm,roundworms and rabies too-
                      Exactly what has the GOP done to oppose the left since Obama was sworn in?
                      Not a damn thing-that’s a fact-whine,cry,all me names-throw your hissy fit-the fact remains the GOP has not done a damn thing to stop the left-there is ZERO difference between GOP and Dems-play the game if you want to-the wealthy and the corporations control the country-the leftists are succeeding with their long term goals.
                      In every country where the left has taken over-what happened?
                      They eventually burned-like Chavez’s Venezuela is currently doing.
                      The only countries that have remained leftist/Marxist/Communist are Cuba and N. Korea.
                      The only reason they haven’t burned is the “gov’t” rules by military force.
                      I made an argument,and a point,and you an not refute it-the GoP ain’t gonna do a damn thing.
                      Get it over with-let it burn.
                      A phoenix always rises from the ashes.

                    • Gamey,
                      I didn’t say the KKK had not flown the Stars & Stripes, I said they had flown the Stars ‘N’ Bars — the last which you acknowledged. I realize that for a person who finds political cartoons persuasive that the distinction is unclear, but it holds true none the less. Facts are useful things; you might worry less about who seems ignorant and more about using them properly.

                      You have yet to name a single effective thing the GOP could have done (but didn’t) to stop Obama’s agenda. Blaming them for acts they’ve no power to block seems childish. Of course, blaming them for your ignorance of what they’ve done is childish, too.

                      One example, and please tell me how you think the Republicans could have achieved different results: they have prevented Obama’s deal with Iran gaining the authority of treaty; it remains an executive order, revocable by his successor in office.

                      As for your “every country” argument, you appear to need a new map. The Left has “taken over” much of Europe these last sixty years, including Scandinavia. Hasn;t burned yet. Canada, Mexico and Israel have all been governed by Leftists and all are surviving. Russia, you might have read, was once governed by the Left (likely still is) and has yet to burn to the ground.

                      The phoenix is a mythological creature; it never,/I> rises from the ashes.

                    • You have bothered to keep up with the national debt, I suppose? 5 times the entire annual GDP? You think there’s any hope this side of H*ll that gets paid? I want your tranq prescription.

                    • Five times GDP? Try 2% greater than GDP: $18.3 trillion debt to GDP of $17.8 — which is still too high and not turning around anytime soon no matter who sits in the Oval Office.

                      http://www.usdebtclock.org/
                      You must have the debt confused with the unfunded liabilities which are about five times GDP — but the US is not actually obligated to pay all of those, although defaulting on the Social Security and medicare obligations is probably not politically desirable.

                      No tranqs required: I have learned to not worry over things outside my control. Those debts worry me about as much as the long overdue eruption of the Yellowstone caldera or the repercussions of a large asteroid striking the Earth or Luna.

                    • Fiscal policy discussions generally focus on the current year’s budget numbers: $1.0 trillion budget deficit and $16.0 trillion national debt. As alarming as these numbers are, they fail to account for the far greater fiscal challenges of unfunded liabilities. Here is some key evidence from various studies:  Former chairman of the SEC Chris Cox and former chairman of the House Ways & Means Committee Bill Archer (2012) report roughly $87 trillion in unfunded liabilities using data from the Medicare and Social Security Trustees’ Reports. Their measures account for the unfunded liabilities—including Social Security, Medicare, federal workers’ pensions—in addition to the official debt.

                      16 trillion national debt + 87 trillion in unfunded liabilities = 103 trillion — or are you saying that we’ve abolished Social Security and Medicare?

                    • Use the link to the Debt Clock and you will see you have understated BOTH national debt and unfunded liabilities.

                      I am not going to attempt to explain the difference between the two, but combining them does not make them the same thing. I suggest using a good online dictionary to review the terms.

                      I explicitly acknowledged the Social Security and Medicare portions of the unfunded liabilities — really, what’s the point of writing if you cannot bother reading? — and pointed out that the government can default on them. Only a fool relies on those, which is evidence the American People are fools. I have been naming SSI as a government-run Ponzi scheme for several decades and am sorry to see you have apparently not yet realized that.

                    • Has Social Security been presented as something the government WILL pay? Yes. What do you think the reaction will be when it doesn’t? And that money is sure enough what the people who buy the bonds and trust in the “full faith and credit” think will be there. An economy runs at least in part on faith.

                      But go ahead and define the problems away; they aren’t impressed and neither am I.

                    • For goodness sake, snel, if you aren’t going to pay attention to what i write:

                      defaulting on the Social Security and medicare obligations is probably not politically desirable.

                      there is no point continuing. Perhaps I overestimated your capacity for appreciating subtlety and ironic understatement? Unfunded liabilities are not debt. Social Security law specifically incorporates a denial of obligation to pay, and even if it didn’t, and even if the SCOTUS hadn’t ruled there is no obligation (in Fleming v. Nestor see; http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/is-there-right-social-security ) a bankrupt entity (which includes government entities) cannot be forced to pay.

                      This is undeniably a problem. The apparatus for putting a government into receivership works poorly at the municipal level (e.g., Detroit) and would be a national disaster at a Federal level. That does not change the facts, nor does it mean I endorse the situation.

                      Nor does it mean Debt is synonymous with Unfunded Liabilities. Accurate identification of issues used to be recognized as key to addressing them, not “defin[ing] the problems away.”

                      As for whether I have “impressed” you — you cannot possibly imagine how little concerned with that I am. It seems likely I would be more concerned to learn I had impressed you as that would indicate I had wandered into inanity.

                    • ” What mechanisms, pray tell, are available for the Legislature to block his implementation of this dogs’ breakfast (I insult dogs’ breakfasts here) of a deal with Iran? You want they should withhold funds for the DoD?”

                      None, since the first thing Vichy and CryBoner did after the election last year is throw away the mechanism with the CROmnibus. They surrendered before the Iran deal was proposed.

                      And yes, shut the entire damn thing down.

                    • You, neither. And you’ve been at least as guilty, with both of us.

          • You know, for all the talk I hear about how Dems want amnesty for votes and the Chamber of Commerce-controlled GOP wants amnesty for cheap labor, I see that we are surprisingly lacking in amnesties.

            I also find amusing those who advocate killing the GOP and then building a new, conservative, party as opposed to making the GOP a conservative party. If conservatives have enough power to build a competitive national party, they have enough power to take over the GOP. Neither is going to be quick, but the latter at least enjoys the advantage of already having the sationary printed out.

            • Yep, the convenient stationary stocks, plus the ability to refer back to the whole “Party of Lincoln, Not The Party of White Supremacists Segregationists President Woodrow Wilson and anti civil rights Senators Robert Bird, John Stennis, Strom Thurmond, James Eastland, …” thing.

            • No, we’re just lacking anyone calling it that. If we refuse to enforce the immigration laws, we don’t have to.

            • Boehner’s indicated twice since 2010 that he was going to make a push for amnesty in that particular Congress. Both times there’s been a very public groundswell of opposition from the public at large. It appears that he wants it, but he’s not willing to risk angering the voters that much. But the fact that he’s tried *twice* (as opposed to just dropping the issue after the first attempt) is troubling.

              • But it does go to show the limits of the “establishment.” It bleeds; we can kill it.

              • In Boehner’s defense (and to his discredit) I suspect that the problem is that this is an issue his members and donors are complaining about and which he is eager to resolve in a way that minimizes the left’s attacks on the subject.

                That is a fool’s errand, as a) he cannot possibly resolve it in a way that doesn’t leave the party vulnerable to attacks over not doing enough b) even were he able to resolve the immigration problem (again: impossible with Obama as president because Barry will refuse to accept any deal up to and including complete capitulation) the Dems and the MSM (but I repeat myself) will make up another false issue, such as unequal income between productive and unproductive people, raising the minimum wage, pissing more money into disfunctional school systems that will do everything but improve actual education and so on and so on.

                But as a general rule our system does not choose House Speakers for their ability to lead the nation. That’s a presidential job. It takes a president to make a mandate for moving this nation one way or another.

              • I seriously doubt that Boehner will be Speaker next term. The moves to vacate the chair have been clear shots across the bow, and I guarantee that conservatives are talking amongst themselves about an alternative. Of course, if we nominate Bush or Trump, Hillary!’s coattails (is that sexist?) will probably put Pelosi back in the Speaker’s chair.

      • Exactly what has the GOP done with the victories they were handed in 2010,and 2012?
        BY the way,that’s not my exact opinion-it’s someone else’s,but the man has many valid points.
        Should Trump be elected-h*ll no,but the GOP has no one running who would fight to restore rightful liberty and end the ever growing police state-Chris Christie even claimed we need to give up freedoms for security-which is utter BS.AS Rand Paul told him the media circus that was a supposed “debate”-get a warrant.
        I sure as hell do pay attention to what’s going on in the world-and the U.S. is becoming weaker and weaker,doing nothing to improve our position,our economy,and this admin is dismantling our military.
        The GOP had huge gains-and didnothing-Obama’s agenda was,and is being enacted and carried out,with nothing being done to stop by the GOP,the Tea Party,or anyone else.
        With the possible exception of enacting term limits,with no politician “grandfathered in” and making it ilegal for politicians to work for lobbyists or defense contractors, it’s going to burn anyways.
        This country simply can not continue to borrow a million dollars a minute to provide welfare to an army of illegal immigrants,and so-called “refugees” from the middle east and north Africa who have no intention of assimilating-they hate America.
        Today,s kids-the majority of them anyhow-are mindless,sexless automatons produced by the leftist indoctrination enters the U.S.public schools became in the early to mid 70’s.
        The elected idiots in D.C. are more worried about “genderless restrooms”, and supporting the less than 1% of the population that comprise the LGBT freakshow than they are about the actual problems facing this country.
        The political process is so fully corrupt that the people have no voice-none.

        • Exactly what could the GOP have done with the victories they were handed in 2010,and 2012?

          Did I miss the news somewhere about their achieving veto-overriding majorities?

          Have you missed the real news of those elections, that the GOP now controls the governorships and legislatures of a significant majority of states — and that is where future Congress-critters and presidents come from? The US government ain’t like the NFL or NBA where stars arrive in full bloom; it is like MLB where it takes time to develop talent through the minor leagues and you can never know who will figure out how to play the game well. True representative governance requires patience; impatience pushes players to the top too quickly and leaves them vulnerable to malformation in the DC Hothouse.

          If you truly believe “the GOP has no one running who would fight to restore rightful liberty and end the ever growing police state” then you haven’t looked at Ted Cruz or Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina’s campaigns or have an operating definition of “rightful liberty” as confused as your criticism of Chris Christie’s argument (the government has every right to track metadata; a warrant is only required to use that data as basis for legal action based on the metadata.)

          Yeah, Obama has “hacked” the Constitution — short of impeachment, what do you think the House and Senate should do, could do? If you think that impeachment could succeed you’re nuttier than a fruitcake. (N.B. — I think Obama should be impeached, I just doubt Obama could be impeached. The two are entirely different.) We already know that shutting down the government will be used to drive the sheeple into a stampede to trample Republicans, so hari-kiri is a bad (i.e., ineffective) route to take.

          Finally, your ending cry, while doubtless heartfelt, is incoherent and contradictory. Who are these voiceless people of whom you speak? Are the same people you denounce as: “Today,s kids-the majority of them anyhow-are mindless,sexless automatons produced by the leftist indoctrination enters the U.S.public schools became in the early to mid 70’s.“? If so, then better they remain unheard.

          • I’d like to point out I’m the result of FAR more leftist indoctrination than in the US even now (though it’s getting close.) Yeah, I turned out this way. It took me till thirty to think for myself, but eventually I did.
            I was reading in inside analysis of the Iran deal, and they SAY the republicans took the fall to avoid creating a precedent for future presidents, where a treaty can be ratified by “executive order” (think of that in Sanders’ or even Hilary’s hands.) It had never occurred to me. It’ s important to consider that sometimes what looks like treason is maneuvering around our laws to avoid a worse outcome.

            • Sarah, that isn’t a “precedent”; the possibility has always been there, because nothing in the Constitution defines exactly what a treaty that must be ratified by the Senate is. Presidents have pushed that envelope in the past. See Yalta Accords.

              As usual, Obama’s precedent is a matter of degree rather than anything original: openly giving aid to a foreign enemy via executive order. Only time will tell if he can establish a true precedent: getting the military or other power centers within the government to declare him a “domestic enemy” and removing him.

              The Founders probably assumed that Congress wouldn’t abdicate the power of the purse, or impeachment; Vichy and CryBoner did both. They may have assumed men were not angels; they didn’t figure on men who were active agents of Evil.

              • Until FDR it was unprecedented for a president to run for a third term — but the potential ability to do so prevented his becoming a lame duck.

                As for Congressional abdication — that has been long since achieved with enactment of entitlements over which Congress has no effective control. Blaming the current crew for a runaway train does nothing to alter the train’s momentum.

                An impeachment or financial shut down of government is cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face; it won’t work and will leave you worse off than before. i share the frustration but am not inclined to engage in vainglorious self-destructive acts to express it.

                • I call absolute and total bull on the statement that shutting down the government won’t work. It WAS working perfectly (well, as perfectly as could be expected) until the gutless bastards turned and ran, instead of holding the line. Which had the predictable results of what always happens in rout. They managed to prove to both their former supporters and their opponents, that they were spineless and there was absolutely no teeth to any of their threats, if their opponents held firm, they would melt away before them, like snow on a July morning.

                  • You can call, but I doubt it will answer.

                    Like a siege, such things work only so long as the besiegers are willing to maintain it. If you have any reason to believe the current Republican leadership has stiffer spines now than before I would be most interested in hearing it.

                    I did not say that shutting down government can’t work, I said it won’t work for precisely the reasons you and many others have complained about the current RINO leadership. Give me a Senate that will select a Ted Cruz majority leader and I will change my stance on government shut downs.

                    You go to war with the Army you have.

          • I think Obama should be impeached, I just doubt Obama could be impeached. The two are entirely different
            —————————

            I’ve seen comments posted by quite a few who think that the inability to secure an impeachment shouldn’t keep the Republicans from attempting to do so. Make a statement, or something along those lines.

            I’ll also note that the Republican leadership has been doing things that it shouldn’t do. They’ve tried to push through amnesty *twice* since 2010. Both times they were stopped by a rather loud outcry from the base. So it’s not entirely a matter of “they can only do so much while Obama’s in office”. They’re up to mischief. And that’s the reason why Trump is doing so well.

            • Republicans “making a statement” by bringing impeachment proceedings on Obama would hurt their position far more than not doing it.

              • I agree. But there are a lot of frustrated people out there who don’t.

                • Not enough such frustrated people to represent a majority, not by a long shot.

                  Especially when you stop to imagine the Administration’s defense (and the MSM resonance chamber echoing it): The Republicans are frustrated by their inability to wrest power from a legitimately elected president! The Republicans are only doing this because Obama is BLACK! The Republicans are in the grip of extremists! The Republicans this, the Republicans that — all of it flak to distract from the Constitutional basis for such proceedings.

                  It would destroy the Republican Party (not that that would be much loss) and sentence conservatism to a Wilderness bleaker by far than that to which McCarthy’s antics condemned anti-Communists.

                  • Keep in mind that a lot of the Let It Burn people think that the Republican party is hopelessly corrupt and should be destroyed.

                    • And what comes next? Any genuine movement like the tea party gets demonized by the press.
                      WE MUST fight the culture war first and foremost.

                    • A lot of people think that eliminating all foreign aid would allow us to balance the budget while cutting taxes.

                      The fact a lot of people think something does not mean I have to agree. A lot of people think McDonalds sells hamburgers, for goodness sake!

                      This is not a defense of the Republican Party — they are politicians, of course they are corrupt. The question is what have you got that is better (and what will it cost.) So far I haven’t heard any sales pitches that I found even half as credible as a Republican’s promise.

                    • The highest reccomendation in mind to R folks being in charge is if they are, the press will investigate and report on them, fulfilling the traditional watchdog role thatthey like to boast about in seedy J-school bars – you know, Woodward and Bernstein stuff.

                      Since that Does Not Happen when the Ds are in charge, election of D majorities or Presidents, with the resulting absence of surveillance and reporting of malfeasance, represents a clear a present danger to the Republic.

                      If things were different things would be different, but they’re not, so they’re not.

                    • “The highest reccomendation in mind to R folks being in charge is if they are, the press will investigate and report on them, fulfilling the traditional watchdog role thatthey like to boast about in seedy J-school bars – you know, Woodward and Bernstein stuff. ”
                      THIS. I would vote for them for this reason if no other.

                    • And what comes next?
                      —————–

                      Then Utopia arrives (conveniently ignoring that Utopia makes a Communist look like a classical liberal), as the mystical Conservative third party is formed that sweeps the remnants of the Republican party from power.

                      They’ve already got the symbol for the party picked out, btw. It’s a unicorn.

            • Of course some of them are. Some of them think that the Ds will be in power forever and are sucking up.

              • Remember the panic following the “Gingrich Revolution” with veteran Washington journalists reporteedly desperately calling up the few conservatives they knew, begging for sources for their Rolodexes?

                Good times, good times.

          • William O. B'Livion

            Exactly what could the GOP have done with the victories they were handed in 2010,and 2012?

            They could have *started* building alternative “media” institutions to get around the Liberal/Progressive/big government institutions we have now.

            They could have not Blue Falcon’d the Tea Party.

            They could have taken principled stands and said “Yeah, we’re shutting down the government until *HE* follows the rules laid out in the constitution because that’s the way it’s SUPPOSED to work, and after all, dissent is the highest form of patriotism, right”?

            They could have acted like the Democrats did when they took the house in 2006.

            But they didn’t. Look at what has happened with the Import Export Bank. Defunded, then shitheal tried (and maybe succeeded, work ahs been distracting the last couple weeks) to get it re-funded on the sly.

            How many Corporate Welfare programs have been cut? Heck, these are things the Democrats claim to be in favor of just as much as “we” do, but no one touches them. Show some backbone and make *THEM* live up to their mouth.

            The problem ultimately is that a significant percentage of the Republican party are essentially religious progressives. Remember that TR was a progressive and a BIG fan of using the power of government to make people Do The Right Thing. Dick Santorum and Huckelberry follow in this mold–the only difference between them an Obama/Hilary is that they use the bible/Christianity (allegedly) as the higher power/moral authority for their rules while Obama and Hilary don’t have that to appeal to (though it doesn’t stop Obama).

            • Build “alternative ‘media’ institutions“?? How? Is that really something you want a political party doing? What do you think is happening on the web? What do you think NRO, the Weakly Substandard, the American Expectorater, PJ Media, Instpundit, Red State, Power Line, the Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, Rush Limabugh, Sean Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved and Fox News are doing? (heck, for that matter: this blog, MGC, Vox Day, MHI and a thousand and one others.)

              And, at this point in time, what difference do they make?

              One thing for the religious progressives — they acknowledge an authority above their own interpretation of what is “right and good.” But even so: the Democrats represent 40% of the populace, your religious progressive Republicans represent about half the Republican 40%, so you’re in opposition to 60% — whattaya gonna do — seize the power of the government to force people to live according to your principles of freedom?

              I think I detect a fundamental flaw in that scheme.

              • Alternate Schmalternate – the media outlest that still do news are not doing well, so just buy them.

                • Glenn Reynolds has made exactly that argument. Look at recent sales of venues like Newsweek and others for little more than a song.

                  Newt Gingrich, I man i would have voted for only by pinching shut my nose, gave an extended 2012 instructional video in how candidates can overcome the MSM’s inherent bias and I see nobody putting those lessons in effect this campaign. Truly, the GOP is “the Stupid Party.”

                  • [EDIT]Newt Gingrich, a man I would have …[EDIT]

                    Sheesh.

                    Gingrich lacked administrative and personal discipline and would have made a lousy president — which is not to say he wouldn’t have been far better than the current Occupier of the White House.

                • William O. B'Livion

                  Not that I particularly care for the guy, but didn’t Glenn Beck try that with AlGore’s network?

                  • Yeah. Gore refused to sell, and it went to Al Jazeera instead.

                    He’s still trying. But afaik no one’s picked up his Blaze channel.

              • The parties have a role in this. Fox should be the only mainstream media outlet carrying a GOP primary debate. The rest should be on outlets like Redstate, PJTV, Brietbart, etc. Maybe with an agreement to simulcast on Fox. Not only would it prevent Progs from having substantial say in the GOP primary, it would introduce people to alternative media outlets.

                Plus I want to see Steve Green and Bill Whittle moderate debates.

              • William O. B'Livion

                Build “alternative ‘media’ institutions“?? How? Is that really something you want a political party doing?

                The current media institutions are largely Democrat institutions.

                What do you think is happening on the web?

                Mostly the choir singing to each other, or trolls pissing on trolls.

                Now, this isn’t to say the Web hasn’t been useful–it lets “us” find each other.

              • William O. B'Livion

                Oh, and:

                But even so: the Democrats represent 40% of the populace, your religious progressive Republicans represent about half the Republican 40%, so you’re in opposition to 60% — whattaya gonna do — seize the power of the government to force people to live according to your principles of freedom?

                You mean “Seize Power and Ruthlessly Leave The People Alone”?

                Yeah. That would be about it, at least at the federal level and probably state level.

                They wouldn’t be “forced” to live according to my principles, they could live however they wanted. They just wouldn’t be able to use the power of the *Federal* government to extract revenue from others to live how they wanted to to force others to live how they wanted.

                At the community level, well freedom means that some people will choose not to be free. Can’t help what the peasants want.

                If people want to live a lifestyle within a couple standard deviations from the norm, not my problem, not my responsibility.

                NOT MY PROBLEM NOR MY RESPONSIBILITY. We were given free will for a reason. Either that or it was baked into the Universe at it’s beginning (alternatively there is no free will, and then none of this matters).

                • But 60% don’t want that, And likely at least half the remainder don’t care. So one fifth the polity gets to deny the remainder what they want from government?

                  Ruthless, dude, and tyrannical.

                  The problem remains The People, not The Politics. Create a persuasive Culture that extols libertarian principles and the rest follows. otherwise you’re abusing the power of government to deny people services they want from government.

                  • William O. B'Livion

                    But 60% don’t want that, And likely at least half the remainder don’t care. So one fifth the polity gets to deny the remainder what they want from government?

                    Ruthless, dude, and tyrannical.

                    When what that 60% want from government is in essence to tyrannize others?

                    Yeah, I’m comfortable with that.

                    • And because that 60% is operating in a warm body democracy which is not what our system was designed for, they will be able to keep doing the tyrannizing until the productive simply rebel.

                  • William O. B'Livion

                    Let me follow up with:

                    That 60% is largely responsible for the so-called “Affordable Care Act”. That means that *for my family* health insurance (bronze plan) is about 900 a month–that’s effectively 0 health *CARE*, just a high deductible plan.

                    That means that for *that* plan it costs me 5.625 an hour. And since I’m a contractor and paying out of my own pocket, I don’t get a tax break so it’s more like 6.50 or 7 an hour.

                    JUST for health *insurance*.

                    What the F*k is not tyrannical about that shit?

                    Right now because of that 60% the IRS has the power (legally or otherwise) to harass law abiding people for forming groups IT disapproves of.

                    What the F*k isn’t tyrannical about that?

                    It’s tyranny to PREVENT people from building that sort of institution?

                    I’d not prevent them from living however they wanted at the local level, if you want to turn your city into a socialist hell hole (see “Detroit”), go for it. If you want people in Idaho to pay for your workers paradise in South Florida? Pound sand.

                    And if that’s tyranny, then it’s no worse than what we have today.

                    As as far as “Create a persuasive Culture that extols libertarian principles”, I’m all for that, but you’ve got two problems:

                    1) Sociopaths, especially the charismatic variant. It’s never their fault and their demagogues.

                    2) Dunning-Kruger. A *significant* portion of the population really is too incompetent to realize just how smart they are not, and hence blame their lack of success on others. They are prime fodder for #2.

                    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                      Which is why IMO Sarah has said that we need to fight to change the Culture first not the government structure (or who’s in control of the government).

                      Otherwise, the only difference in the tyranny is that “you” are in control not the Left.

                      Because if you’re correct about the 60% number, then our only choice is “us being the tyrants” or the “Left being the tyrants”.

                      Mind you, I suspect that 60% number would shrink after the educational system has been cleaned out. [Smile]

          • Do you really believe the NSA,FBI,DHS,DEA,et-al do not look at the results of the metadata collection,from the ‘net and cell phones,and use info gleaned from license plate readers,cell phone tracking,security cameras,ATM transactions,etc. in order to obtain a warrant in the first place?
            If you do,then you know nothing about the way police forces in the U.S.operate.

            How is my “ending cry” either incoherent or contradictory?

            Kids are only a part of the people who vote-but it was those kids who got Obama elected-twice.

            You doubt that the ideas these kids have are the result of K-12 public education,followed by at least 4 more years of many of their leftist college profs spouting political rhetoric rather than teaching kids anything useful?

            The rest is simply stating fact.

            • Do you even know what that metadata collected is? From the tone of your response I doubt it. In spite of what they do on the television, the government has yet to demonstrate any meaningful ability to use the metadata to find very many terrorists.

              If you truly believed your bleating about this being a police-state you wouldn’t post about it online.

              And again: if your argument about the mal-education of the kids is correct (stipulated, not debated; I’m probably farther down that line than you, if only by having home-schooled the Daughtorial Unit) then there is no majority of this nation eager to defend their rights to liberty and against tyranny. The battle for the nation’s soul is lost if the politicians begin to listen to such people.

              • A year or so ago there was a rather breathless article talking about how if the British had modern meta-data analysis in 1775 they could have identified Paul Revere. What was left unmentioned is that Paul Revere wasn’t exactly critical to the Revolution. Probably the only reason we know his name is because it has good meter.

              • I know exactly what metadata is-and the fact remains that any law enforcement agency can use everything that’s been collected about a person to go on fishing expeditions based on little more than a hunch.
                I’ve had metadata,what it is what is collected,and how it is collected and stored explained to be by people far more knowledgeable about it than you or I.
                I also know that the NSA’s “data center” in the Utah desert allows them to break the majority of encryption techniques that citizens use-and “they” have yet to find a terrorist,other than those “terrorists” entrapped by the FBI “stings”in which the FBI’s “informant” is the one who came up with the foiled “terrorist plot”
                The NSA,the government,the police,the FBI,DHS,DEA,have no damn business collecting every text,e-mail,phone call,cell phone location,social media post-comments made on internet forums like this one,blog post,ATM/banking transaction,credit/debit card purchase of every American-period.

                The fourth amendment is no longer applicable to mere citizens.

                This country is edging closer and loser to a police state-tell a traffic cop no when he or she asks if they can search your car-better yet-tell them to get a warrant-then watch what happens.
                Radley Balko-a former cop- blogs about the police state we are becoming on WaPo.
                And no,I would never shut up and hide due to the police in this country-they are doing a hell of a lot wrong-and more people need to speak up about it-not less.
                That means speak up against actual police wrong doing-civil asset forfeiture,judges,prosecutors and cops colluding to fill and keep private,for profit prisons full,coercing people into plea bargains,because they can’t afford lawyers,making millions of “felons” who in no way deserve the “felon”label.
                Prosecutors presenting grand juries with indictments that make those accused of minor crimes appear to be Genghis Khan-99.9% of it pure fiction,beginning with the falsified police report.
                No,it’s not a KGB-secret police police state-yet-but it gets closer and closer.
                If you can’t see that-you are blind to what’s going on with the police in the U.S.

          • We elected GHWB – a thoroughly decent man, but only marginally conservative – who might have been okay slowing or spottily stopping the Clinton era slide into socialism. Except that shortly afterward were in the early days of the post-9/11 disaster, and a war vs. islam on multiple fronts. Hurricane Katrina bit, as did Abu Grahib. The 2010 and 2012 majorities lasted two years and were undermined at e ery step by the Old Guard Rinos in the Senate.

            If you’re not working toward cleaning house in the Senate, you don’t really understand why the GOP is both unsatisfactory AND needs the support of every non-prog this fall.

            Also, if anyone knows how to stop an android tablet from randomly I serting periods, please let me know. Ditching autocorrect isn’t enough.

            • By all means, primary all RINOs with good, solid candidates. T’ain’t nobody in the GOP doing such a good job they don’t merit a little foot-warming!

              With the GOP in such overwhelming control of the political minor leagues (60% of governorships, 66% of state houses, and a lead in legislative seats of 55.7 to 43.1% with 70% of state senates and a senate seat advantage of 55.2 to 41.7% )* we can look for a great deal of political talent to rise and push for seating at the big kids table.

              What we need are fewer candidates who are all flash and no substance, such as Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Richard Mourdock and more candidates like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan.

              Complaining the GOP is “uesless” just because it doesn’t pay attention to marginal factions that can’t deliver betrays a fatal misunderstanding of how our system works. You have no right to a seat at the table; that you have to earn.
              *http://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_composition_of_state_houses

              • Complaining the GOP is “uesless” just because it doesn’t pay attention to marginal factions that can’t deliver betrays a fatal misunderstanding of how our system works

                I can’t recall that I’ve made that complaint, but if it sounded as if I had, I was almost certainly complaining about the Senate GOP. It’s hard not too perceive them as comfortable life-long seat-warmers.

                Agreed on the substance vs. flash and the whole “electability” boondoggle.

                • Nothing you had said, just a prophylactic argument prebutting those who are making that claim elsewhere here today. You raised an excellent point that merited expansion.

              • CHristine O’Donnel is actually a PRIME example of the simple fact that the RINO “support the candidate in the general” only goes one way. The first thing Castle and the RNC did is drop support.

                Castle has spent the past 36 hours fielding phone calls and pats on the back from well-wishing colleagues and other politicians, including President Obama, Vice President Biden, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and dozens of others.

                Angle ditto. And, of course, those weren’t nearly as blatant as what went on in MS last year.

                Secondly, we have this from Eliana Johnson of National Review last month:

                As it turns out, Crudup raised all of the $144,685 his PAC took in from exactly one source: Haley Barbour’s political machine. A report filed with the Federal Election Commission reveals that Mississippi Conservatives, the political-action committee founded by the former Mississippi governor and Republican National Committee chairman and run by his nephew, Henry, provided that money to Crudup’s group in four installments. The first, in the amount of $62,685, came on June 10, a week after the race was thrown into a runoff. Cochran and his allies were looking to increase voter turnout across the state, particularly among African Americans and Democrats who had not voted in the June 3 primary.

                As noted by Johnson, FEC filings show that Barbour funded the Mississippi Conservatives PAC that pushed at least one set of the race baiting ads. This is indisputable.

                Sorry, but there’s only so many backstabs I’ll tolerate. Again, the alternative is licking the chains. No.

                • Link for second quote since WorpPuke won’t handle multiple links.

                • Christine “I Am Not A Witch” O’Donnell & Sharron Angle had no chance of winning and nothing the Republican Party did would have affected that. Same with Mourdock.

                  Mississippi is a particular case, given the political loyalties in play and merely proves that one state was foul.

                  Being from the T.E.A. Party wing has certainly not apparently damaged the rise of Cruz, Rubio or Paul within the party.

                  Here’s the secret: you cannot easily take over a party at the top; you need to build from the ground up, putting your people on county committees, in precinct chairs and running the infrastructure. Otherwise the people who actually have built the party owe you no loyalty and no support. It is a laborious process, like building a house out of bricks instead of straw.

                  • Nice assertions without evidence.I provided a cite that O’Donnell wasn’t supported by the party from the get go, before the kooky allegations got published, BTW.

                    Neither Rubio nor Paul is TEA Party, if only for their immigration positions. Rubio signing on to the Gang of 8 proves he was lying, and we didn’t have a record to judge him on. With Cruz, we at least had his writings as Solicitor General, and he was running against a known RINO in Dewhurst. And I haven’t noticed Cruz being welcomed when he takes TEA Party positions, which, BTW, specifically included a government shutdown to repeal Obamacare.

                    • Yep – pure opinion and not presented as anything but.

                      The first task of a primary-winning candidate is to unite the party behind him/her/it. It is not a requirement on the party, e.g., David Duke’s winning the Louisiana Republican primary although the party has a duty to at least try. Given the cost to a party of a lost seat this should not be a difficult task, but political parties — as with all other aspects of human existence — often have mules who insist on their own way at the expense of the team.

                      Holding an entire party accountable for what is done in a few states strikes me as contrary to the republican principle of subsidiarity, but I suppose that’s easier for some people.

                      Rubio was the T.E.A. Party poster boy for taking on and defeating the execrable Charlie Crist, and it is a measure of immaturity that the T.E.A. Party forgets that in its anger over his attempt to work on a deal over immigration. I thought he was naive to trust Schumer & Cronies, but as I understood the T.E.A. Party to be an opposition movement to the free-wheeling taxing and spending in Washington his actions did not seem at odds with the avowed political aims of that movement. I might have missed the nativist component of their agenda, i will allow.

                      As for Cruz — he is clearly more confrontational than the GOP Old Guard. Big effin’ deal. In politics you have to deal with all sorts of people; it is only in war that you get to kill the wounded and take no prisoners. When your politics reach that point you no longer have a polity.

                      Like a healthy marriage, both sides have to meet more than halfway. While i think our nation needs counseling I believe a divorce excessive. Apparently you and gamete think it time to burn down the house and move on.

        • The midterm gains were not R wins, but D losses. The bottom line is that as a result, the O legislative agenda has ground to a halt, with nothing originating from his O’ness having any chance of moving through congress, even with the morons in charge there. That’s why he’s gone to Imperial Decree mode instead of leveraging the squishier congresscritters to squeak things through.

          Thus us the power of the executive (which if observed would have the founding fathers all spinning in their various hallowed graves – had I keys to the ATH time machine I’d bring back a selection of newspapers to the 1790 Constitutional Convention just to see what they would add).

          And all this executive action also sets a precedent (which I don’t think O gets): Only legislation is hard to reverse. The next occupant of the oval office can un-decree anything and everything that is an O decree in the first twenty minutes after the inauguration, and then the new President can proceed to decree his or her butt off on any topics they wish, only as restrained by their personal ethics, observing the hallowed precedent set by O. Declare a state of emergency and deploy the 3rd ID along the border with Mexico? Sure! Write a Finding that the Iran agreement is really an unratified Treaty and thus Null and Void, and reimpose the sanctions? You Go! Find that CO2 is an essential plant nutrient and forbid any and all enforcement of CO2 emissions limits by any Federal agency? You betcha!

          Sure it will end up in the courts, but in the meantime – Reap What You Sow, Democrats!

          • Write a Finding that the Iran agreement is really an unratified Treaty and thus Null and Void, and reimpose the sanctions?
            ———————

            To quote Fiorina –

            “My first phone call as president will be to my good friend Bibi Netanyahu. My second phone call will be to the president of Iran (he might not take it), to let him know that the sanctions are back in full force.”

            Unfortunately, we’ll then have to listen to Obama for the next forty years talk about how he brought about what would have become peace in the Middle East, if those evil Republicans hadn’t screwed it up the moment he left office. But at least we’ll be in a position where we can listen to him blather, as opposed to the alternative.

            • Better to listen to Obama for the next forty years than to live with the results of his policies. We’ve listened to Jimmy Carter for thirty-five years now only because Reagan was there to cauterize the wounds Carter’s policies inflicted.

            • I want the following line in the next inauguration speech:

              “General [CENTCOM], this is a direct order from the Commander-in-Chief; use all means at your disposal to eliminate the current government of Iran. Joint Chiefs, you are tasked with providing CENTCOM the resources necessary to accomplish this goal. Get hot.”

              • William O. B'Livion

                “Dear Iranian leaders. At $TIME a strike force of US military aircraft (and anyone else who’s got live ordinance they want to drop) will be crossing your border at $GRID on a vector to $NUCLEAR_FACILITY. Please have all of your people out of that facility because when we’re done it’ll be back to sand.

                Oh, and feel free to send any fighter aircraft you don’t want more. But please crew them with bachelors. We don’t want to leave any orphans or widows behind. But we will if you insist.”

                • That would be an almost-fair fight. Almost-fair fights are nearly as bad as fair fights.

                • The thing is, Iran and ISIS are willing to sacrifice the whole Muslim world as long as they can take the infidel world with them.

                  • Reagan was accused of wanting Armageddon now for religious reasons; the Muslims regularly broadcast proof that they want Armageddon now.

                • But we’d end up shooting down the last operational F-14 Tomcats!

            • I saw that in her speech from the Reagan library. She’s got the right moves, and as the top runners get opposition-researched out of the race by the Clinton machine, I think she has a chance.

              The thing I like is that Carly totally blows Hillary’s one remaining unindicted leg to stand on out from under her – Opposed by a Carly-whoever ticket, Hillary can no longer use the “Vote for me as the Historic First Woman President!” bit, and at that point, what difference does she make?

              • She also used it in the second debate, where it got an even wider audience.

                It was amusing seeing comments from people who were already familiar with her complaining about her repeating herself during the debate… and then realizing that she was doing so because very few people were familiar with her.

                • Reports are the Clinton Machine now sees Carly as A Threat.

                  • So does the DNC. Almost immediately after the first debate, they released a tweet attacking her.

                    As for Clinton… she’s got more important things to worry about first, like the primary. There are hints that Biden’s planning to announce.

                    • Newest line of defense at Campaign Hillary:

                      “Hillary Clinton’s campaign is now resorting to the defense that her using a personal, private e-mail server in contravention of government rules was a good idea because . . . government servers aren’t very good.

                      Jennifer Palmieri @jmpalmieri

                      Ahem, @JebBush. Three Months Later, State Department Hasn’t Rooted Out Hackers – WSJ http://www.wsj.com/articles/three-months-later-state-department-hasnt-rooted-out-hackers-1424391453
                      5:30 PM – 10 Aug 2015
                      Wall Street Journal
                      Photo published for Three Months Later, State Department Hasn’t Rooted Out Hackers
                      Three Months Later, State Department Hasn’t Rooted Out Hackers

                      By Danny Yadron @dannyyadron

                      Three months after the State Department confirmed hackers breached its unclassified email system, the government still hasn’t been able to evict them from the network, say three people familiar with…

                      [SNIP]

                      As Jeb Bush adviser Tim Miller quickly pointed out, Hillary was the executive overseeing that helplessly insecure infrastructure for years — shame she couldn’t do anything about it.

                      http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/422354/really-clinton-spin-e-mail-scandal-now-really-patrick-brennan

                  • Pfagh. The Clinton Machine views the American people as a threat.

                • She did a great job facing off Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday. He kept asking her “What is will you say to the Democrats claim …” and she swatted it out of the park repeatedly.

                  My only criticism is that she eschewed the true and accurate response: The Democrats will lie and misrepresent no matter what.”

                  Or, as Reagan put it: There you go again …

              • I’m still unconvinced that her HP tenure can’t be used to sink her. The case that laying people off to save a company is economically good is sound, but it’s a tough row to hoe and I haven’t seen Fiorina making that argument – and she needs to make it now rather than react to the inevitable Clinton attack.

                That’s the major reason why Walker tops my list, he’s already been oppo’d to death. If there were any skeletons we would have heard about it.

                • The problem is that laying them off with one hand while bringing in H1B replacements is a lot harder to finesse.. I don’t necessarily blame her for playing in the game; I do blame her for saying she likes those rules and we should keep them.

                  • Lowering the cost of inputs – like labor – to economic goods is always the right move. The problem with H1B is that it perpetrates the lie that there’s a shortage of workers. There may be a shortage of workers at a price you’re willing to pay, but that’s the market, not reality. There’s also a shortage of Ferrari’s in my price range. I don’t get government subsidies for a supercar.

                  • Did Fiorina do that? I was under the impression that large scale use of that tactic happened after her departure. Given the whole-hearted support of such visas during Hillary’s turn at State it seems unlikely as an effective campaign attack (not that such considerations ever deterred Dems ere now.)

                    My impression (and I admit to having paid not much attention to the details thus far) had been these were a) redundancies subsequent to the merger of HP and [whoever — Compaq?] and b) reductions in force due to market conditions (e.g., market implosion in the computer sector.)

                    • Everyone was laying off out here across that period. The cuts were deep and regular, extending well past when the rest of the country was into their “recovery.”

                      Name me one tech company that did not lay off in the 1999-2005 time frame that is still around, especially in the PC manufacturing space.

                      Apple had layoffs in that period. Vast stretches of R&D industrial buildings stood empty for many years after 2000 – some only just recently filled again. There are places in the valley with buildings that are still vacant.

                      Given the HP merger with Compaq, the bloated HP payroll before she took over, the tech crash and the subsequent long depression in Silicon Valley, and the continuing-to-this-day decline in the PC market, it would not only be remarkable but unbelievable to posit somehow HP not laying anyone off and surviving.

                    • I’m going out on a limb here and positing that inability to reduce bureaucratic deadwood is not a quality we seek in the nation’s next chief executive officer?

                    • For years, companies defended the use of foreign labor through the H1B plan and even Fiorina fought for it as president of Hewlett Packard over a decade ago.

                      Now, she claims it’s different.

                      I knew a number of people who worked for HP, and her preferred tactic was offshoring. The problem is that the tech industry as a whole has found that the coordination is incredibly difficult, and so they use H1B to bring those cheaper workers here. It’s also referred to as onshoring, and the tech companies like to brag about how they’re bringing back jobs to America, while conveniently ignoring that they’re not filling them with Americans.

                      I’ll also be fair and say that Cruz has the same issue with H1B. That’s the biggest reason Walker is still on my list; he doesn’t see legal immigration as an unalloyed good.

                  • Well, I live in Silicon Valley, and I have relatives who were RIF’d and who took very generous early retirement packages from HP. I’m just not convinced that there’s any there really there. I’ve sampled lots and lots of local opinionage on Carly Fiorina, and I watched the senate campaign (which she lost because California has terminal Stoopids, not due to any lack on her part – she shoulda run in another state, and she would have won in almost any other state).

                    HP was really insanely large before the merger, and the combined HP/COMPAQ behemoth was just too huge. One of the main things any exec team looks to do after a merger is to eliminate duplications and increase productivity, and hers did too. HP’s PC unit, where most of the overlap with COMPAQ occured, had falling market share in an industry that was already heading off a cliff before the iPad came out. And remember, the CEO works for the stockholders. Employees are useful and precious and special, but they’re not the boss.

                    And re H1b visa hires, that’s a fully involved pandemic practice in high tech. WIthout H1b engineers most of the test labs and entry level design jobs would be empty – there just are not that many native-born engineers coming out of our schools. And EE new grads already start at salaries really close to six figures plus strong benefits pacakges here. Not sure how much higher you can go with new-from-school protoengineers.

                    She did what she was hired to do, and did it pretty well. HP is still around un-bought-out, unlike a lot of other companies in that space, and I know lots of folks who still work there.

                    Do the HP employees and ex-employees I know wish they had jobs at Apple or at the book of Face instead? Some do. But being in a downward sliding market space is not the ex-CEO’s fault, and again, HP is still around.

                    • Thanks for the insights. Geeze, it seems just a decade or so ago that there was great huzzahs from local community leaders when they “lured” a Del plant to their town, with generous tax breaks and lots of local help.

                      The plant closed and was sold off in 2012. Oops.

                      When accountants evaluate a company the first rule is to establish appropriate benchmarks for the industry. Thus the relevant question for HP would be how it stood in relation, not to some imaginary ideal, but in relation to its contemporary competition. Anyone want to address the standing of HP vs Dell vs IBM? Anyone? Buellar?

                      According to Wiki, when Fiorina took over as HP CEO in 1999 the top five computer makers were:
                      Brand ……………….. % MS
                      Compaq …………….. 13.2
                      Dell …………………….. 9.8
                      IBM …………………….. 7.9
                      HP ……………………… 6.4
                      Packard Bell NEC …..5.2

                      And in 2005, when she left:
                      Brand ……………….. % MS
                      Dell ……………………. 16.8
                      HP …………………….. 14.6
                      Lenovo ………………… 6.9
                      Acer Inc ………………. 4.6
                      Toshiba ………………. 3.3

                      (Geeze – wish I knew how to make WP tabulate data!)

                      Figures from Wiki, which also reports that:
                      “After her departure, by the end of 2005, the merged company had more employees worldwide than both companies together had before the merger.”
                      (Separate article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina )

                      The Wikientry also notes that “[a]s of February 9, 2005 HP stock had lost more than half its value, while the overall NASDAQ index had fallen 26 percent owing to turbulence in the tech sector.”

                      The analysis needed to determine whether the market sector was shrinking or growing (and how much), nor how much the other PC makers capitalization affected the NASDAQ Index decline obviously exceeds the scope of any comments here.

                      As for the HIB visas, unless a compelling argument can be made that HP under Fiorina was uniquely responsible for the industry’s practice it seems inappropriate to blame them for adhering to a policy which, had they not followed it, would have been seriously damaging to the company. The problem would seem to be the policy, not those forced by competitive pressure.

                    • Entry level positions? Oh, really.

                      And I’m not sure why the US government should be pursuing immigration policies that allow companies to lie about their needs and damage US workers.

                    • “As for the HIB visas, unless a compelling argument can be made that HP under Fiorina Donald Trump was uniquely responsible for the industry’s business community’s practice it seems inappropriate to blame them him for adhering to a policy which, had they he not followed it, would have been seriously damaging to the company his business interests. The problem would seem to be the policy crony capitalist environment, not those forced by competitive corrupt political pressure.”

                      The necessity to placate corrupt politicians would seem to be as much a part of the business environment as any other competitive pressure. I wonder who Fiorina donated to so that her company could rent-seek? I guess standards are subject to change.

                      I don’t like either Trump or Fiorina, but to condemn one for rent-seeking and not the other seems, dare I say, hypocritical.

                    • How curious — are you addressing moi with that editing of my comment?

                      If so, please be advised that I have indeed offered essentially that defense of Trump; you have to play by the rules of the arena you’re in, else you’re holding to Marquis of Queensbury in an MMA bout.

                      I have many, many objections to Trump as a candidate (and yet, between him and Hillary I don’t even have to pinch my nose all that hard) but those complaints are trivial in comparison to all the others. Too many to list and frankly, what difference at this point in time, does it make?

                    • You’re question about difference should be asked of the whole electoral process. And I found the answer in Delaware in 2010: NONE.

                      Even my donations to Cruz are, frankly, the electoral equivalent of buying lottery tickets.

                    • Did I accidentally type “ONLY entry level jobs” somewhere? ANd sorry, no direct insights into the House of the Mouse, though I hear through the grapevine that all the mouseketeers and imagineers are by no means universally enamored of their management.

                      If you are asserting that entry level engineering jobs are not the primary H1B visa applications target, I have to disagree as that does not match what I’ve experienced.

                      My first job in semiconductors here was in Silicon Valley in 1988, and from when I started there until I jumped off the tech rollercoaster in 2010 the choice for the C-suite folks was between hiring more H1B visa engineers in the US or offshoring.

                      The only market segment I’ve ever been involved with in which companies had to both keep jobs onshore and only hire US citizens (even in the Fabs) was in the late 1980s for mil-aerospace (mostly rad-tolerant or rad-hard semicustom ASIC devices) product lines selling to defence and space contractors, and that pretty much went away after 1991 for ASICS – the FPGA rad-tolerant programmable stuff I worked with peripherally about 15 years later was built in the same offshore fabs as everyone else’s chips, and by that time the engineers and even execs who worked on those products were all green-card holders or naturalized citizens who had originally come to the US on H1B visas, with a sprinkling of native born US citizens like me.

                      So I think I have some valid insights, and my experience says RES is correct: Compare HP under Fiorino not to some idealized utopian company run by angels in human form, but to it’s actual competitors, and point to real world management that made substantially different real world decisions yet stayed in business, improving on HPs results, and I’ll pay attention. Any comparisons to fictional wouldacoulda business school hypotheticals will not sway me.

                    • Mmm, after my husband’s experience with HP, I’d rather have Clinton if I have to pick a liar. Oh, Fiorina may not have had anything to do directly with his experience, but that’s the thing about being the boss, isn’t it? You get to be held responsible for what your under-bosses do, and if it wasn’t okay to lie to your people like that at HP, then three of his supervisors going up should’ve been fired.

            • Oh. That a Jindal / Fiorina slate were in the cards. We could have SO much fun with the SJWs

          • And think of that decree power in the hands of Donald Trump.

      • I’m worried we might never get it back after the past decade of Democrats in charge – remember, they got Congress in 2006.

        I’m heartsick over the downright stupidity of the people who think that Trump is a conservative. Andrew Breitbart is rolling over in his grave.

        • Read the history of the twentieth century. FDR? Much worse than now. Woodrow Wilson? You don’t want to know. Be of good cheer. Despair is a sin and in most cases premature.

          • Wilson has much to answer for, including, possibly, Vietnam…

          • Yes, leave us please avoid premature desperation.

            Try thinking about baseball.

          • My migraine-induced intuition at work today, another thing I was reading. In addition to giving the KKK recruiting film “Birth of a Nation” the most enthusiastic praise, and showing it in the White House, Wilson actually wrote a lot of the “non-fiction” material the movie was based on. Quotations from the President are in the movie’s subtitles.

    • What I find depressing about Trump?
      Have you noticed that the Republican ‘establishment’ is running a hate/smear/offensive campaign against Trump that would rival the dreams of TOR and their SJW followers.
      Trump was ‘dis-invited’ from a convention… kind of like Condoleezza Rice from a commencement address. Any Trump utterance is examined for possible offense, including, when missing eyes for fire, they pass by 5 closer orifices to the one they focus on to declare ‘sexist’.
      I feel like I belong to the Sad Puppies Political Party (SP3), and the GOP has morphed into a bunch of Social Justice types while I was looking away.

      • He’s a registered democrat. For that alone…

        • And Sanders is a registered Socialist (You can register as a member of the Socialist Party? Who knew! Maybe the T.E.A. party should enlist there and take them over; bound to be easier than the GOP or Democrats.)

          I am not sure you’re helping the argument that the GOP isn’t a dead party walking.
          😉

        • There! A fact! But all weekend all I heard or read was what a ‘sexist’ he was. How he said nasty things about Kelly, and Rosie O’Donnell too. Oh, he ‘raped’ his ex-wife while they were still married. If File770 was saying those things about Brad, I would expect it. I did not consider that the GOP would consider using the same tactics against Trump. And why they seem more concerned with Trump than they do Hillary.
          Trump has done or said nothing to impress me.
          The GOP have acted shamefully, emulating the radical left.

          • Makes sense if Trump is spoiling for Hilary. As if you knew that Brad had signed a six figure deal with Tor and was best buds with the N-Haydens.

            But it does speak to their competence that they’re not using Trump better.

            • The thing about Trump is that he can be seen as speaking truth to power. That’s what’s getting him enthusiasm from the Republican base. Everyone got fed the line that truth to power was a great idea from K-PhD, after all.

              I think it’s showmanship. The man knows how to play an audience and he’s getting oodles of publicity. Which makes me wonder what he really wants.

  4. William O. B'Livion

    1- Item, he was a big Hilary supporter.

    Not was, is. But it’s not going to be Hillary. Maybe O’Malley.

    2- Item, he doesn’t rule out running independent

    His job is to make sure there’s a D in the whitehouse. “They” know that after the train wreck that has been and IS the Obama administration that The Masses just won’t show up for Bernie, O’Malley is not a front runner and it’s looking a LOT like Hillary won’t be running because Felon.

    So they need an insurance policy. Trump is it.

    4- He only gets away with speaking as he does and not getting destroyed in the media — yeah, they can. They did to Palin and, oh, yeah, the tea party — because they are in on it, wink, wink, nudge nudge. Which is why the other republicans aren’t doing what he does.

    Remember how the Media loved McCain until right after the Convention, then the hammer came down?

    Yeah, they’ll f*k Trump like that too.

    6- If because of this we elect Hilary, or worse Sanders I’m going to be seriously upset. We don’t need our very own “Chavista” regime.

    Right now we’re in the phase where only people who really care about politics are paying attention.

    Neither Sanders nor Trump are in *any* way presidential, and the only way either one of them will get elected is if they’re running against each other.

    Hilary isn’t Presidential either, at least after she opens her mouth, but that’s not as much an issue because Historical First!

    • Right now we’re in the phase where only people who really care about politics are paying attention.
      ———————–

      Yes, and no. 24 million – nearly one in thirteen – Americans watched the second debate. That’s a lot of people. It’s quite likely that a lot of those people only tuned in to watch Trump be Trump. But right now they’re at least minimally invested in the Republican primary. People are paying attention to the candidates.

      • Did you see how The Donald claimed how that 24m was “his” ratings?

        • Missed that. In fairness, I suspect that there’s a certain amount of truth to that. I’m confident that a lot of people watched specifically to see him. Though whether the majority were people who wanted to see him stick it to the press, or people who wanted to see him fall flat on his face is a question I don’t have the answer to…

          • When has Trump ever drawn that size of audience to any of his unreality shows? He can claim that his farts can incinerate nuclear waste, but that don’t make it so.

            What matters is that an audience of 24 million saw nine Republican candidates without “benefit” of an MSM framing or context; conservatives usually do best when not run through the Liberal MSM filter. This will make it much harder for the Democrat candidate to try their usual framing of the Republican candidate as an extremist EXTREMIST!!!!!!!

            What also matters is that most Americans have a sense this nation is going off the rails. With all the MSM push in support of the Gift Bag For Iran Iran Deal, a new poll reveals that only 41% of Democrats are willing to swallow that enormous toad. The best Republican strategy might be to follow the Reagan pathway of maintaining a calm reasonable common-sense campaign while allowing the opposition to huff and puff and reveal themselves for the windbags they are.

            • William O. B'Livion

              About the only thing Americans agree on these days is that we’re going off the rails.

              The problem is 40%[1] think we’re going off on the left side, 40% think we’re going off on the right side, 15% think we’re just fine and 5% need to have their meds adjusted.

              • Depressing as it is to say, I think you’ve left out one major (the most significant) group. Cut the Left and Right down to 20% each (approximately) and reallocate the resultant 40% to “Rails? I didn’t know there were rails!”

                We (Society) are indeed the beneficiaries of the most modern and up-to-the-momentary of educations.

                When the most likely to occur response to “Remember Pearl Harbor” is “I never touched the -itch, and besides, she was beggin’ me for it” you can be confident than any effort to turn the barge of state is pointless.

                • William O. B'Livion

                  Depressing as it is to say, I think you’ve left out one major (the most significant) group. Cut the Left and Right down to 20% each (approximately) and reallocate the resultant 40% to “Rails? I didn’t know there were rails!”

                  No one admits that they don’t know what’s going on, and almost all of them think that the country is going in the wrong direction.

                  The may not know what direction our constitution and founding fathers pointed us in, but they’re sure it’s not here.

      • People are being to told their healthcare will be cheaper…it costs more or is gone.
        People are told folks are going back to work…but they, their families and friends are still jobless.
        People are told the world is a safer place… but there’s war in Europe, Africa, the middle east and our streets.
        People are told our government is open and transparent…but IRS is auditing conservatives, Wisconsin Democrats are conducting no-knock raids on Republican donors, the DOJ is canceling credit service to businesses it disapproves of and running guns to drug dealers.

        A LOT of people are paying more attention these days.

        • the DOJ is canceling credit service to businesses it disapproves of and running guns to drug dealers.
          ————————-

          And jihadis. Don’t forget that!

          • And domestic terrorists – one of the attackers at the Art Contest in Texas purchased a handgun at one of the Fast & Furious dealers in New Mexico. And they won’t release info on the firearms collected as evidence or why the 7 day hold on his purchase was lifted after only 24 hours…

            • And I will add- we, the people, would know none of what has been posted just above WITHOUT the alternative media on the internet. Which is why the Democrats so desperately want to license real journalists, as opposed to people sitting around in their pajamas.

    • Technically, Hillary can neither be refused to be on the ballot nor refused office if elected President as an established Felon. The Founding Fathers considered the political use of law to disbar an opponent from serving as more likely than the stupidity of the voters to vote a Felon into office. I think the jury on if the Founding Fathers were wise or foolish is still out.

    • Unimpressive argument — a fringe of a fringe of a fringe. A Lilliputian imagining he’s Brobdingnagian. It is little more than the drunken mutterings of a few corporals nursing their beers in a dim corner of the NCO Club, complaining about how The Army is run while having no valid clue as to how to manage it themselves.

      • Really? All four links contained in the post?

        • William O. B'Livion

          Read them.

          RES is correct. Fringe of the Fringe.

          • Nope-there’s whole lot of people who think that way-I know of hundreds just in the township I live in in Ohio,and have friends all over the country who say the same-far from fringe.

            • Your circle of acquaintance is still only a small fraction of the population.

              Tens of thousands of people annually attend decorative barbed wire conventions — that does not mean they represent a meaningful bloc of the American polity. Fifty thousand people may (I’m being very optimistic here) an Avengers’ comic; something like 50 million saw Avengers: Age of Ultron — that’s several orders of magnitude difference.

  5. Urban fantasy? Urban nothin in the deepest darkest South. All we have are devils, hellhounds and grim bluesmen wandering about the miles o nothin’ 😉

  6. That music for the Pauliteiros de Palaçoulo Assalto ao Castelo reminds me to wonder if it is true that the Scots were so fierce in attacking their foes because they were trying to escape the sound of the bagpipes.

    • Professor Badness

      True story, my wife (Masked Pain) craved Bagpipe music when she was pregnant with son number one.
      Well, that and Panda Express, peanut butter mixed into chocolate ice cream and honey nut cheerios.
      I didn’t even know a pregnant woman could crave things other than food.

      • With older son I craved (besides indian food) romance novels. The trashier the better. It was the first time I READ Romance. The minute I gave birth I lost all interest in it until Dave Freer introduced me to Heyer.

        • Professor Badness

          Wow. The pregnancy of second son was listening to the Kingston Trio and eating cheesecake, hot pockets and Captain Crunch. Which is especially strange since she wouldn’t touch hot pockets or captain crunch before or since.

        • Craving MSG? I’m afraid many reputable Indian cooks use a ton of it.

  7. Sarah, “In The Pines” was used in a couple of Wellman’s “Silver John” stories…. and yes, it is well suited for creepy.

    • One of the Silver John stories had John dealing with a monster that disguised itself as a house – if you walked in the front door, you were effectively walking into its mouth.

      Some years ago, I had an idea for a story I never wrote that involved a realtor whose family had been associated with one such monster for several generations. As Judas goats, that is – “This is a lovely rural property; I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. Here’s the key – I’ll come by later to point out a few things and answer any questions. No, that’s ok. We’re pretty casual in these parts, and I think I can trust you.”

      • There was an interesting twist on that theme in an episode of the TBS series The Librarians last year:

        From IMDb:
        And the Heart of Darkness
        The Librarians encounter the House behind the legend of all haunted houses and set out to destroy it.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

        Minor nit, I remember that Wellman story but I don’t think it was a Silver John story.

        Mind you, the “monster” was basically a giant Pitcher plant so it was a matter of “getting out of it” before you starved to death.

        • I went looking last night, but the only Silver John book I found was “Who Fears the Devil.” I guess the rest are in boxes. Then again, I had a dance class last night, so I didn’t have a lot of time to look.

          In any case, the book has a one-page interstitial (not a story) about the creature, and it is described as operating like a pitcher plant, with escape or rescue being difficult. I’m pretty sure that there’s a Silver John story about it in another book, though.

  8. creepy enough to form the “spine” of an Urban Fantasy or a thriller.

    That seems to be the version of “In the Pines” which got used for the end credits of Season 2 of The Walking Dead videogame.

    I can’t tell whether you were already aware of this or whether your description was just right on the money anyways.

  9. There is no limit to what a Realtor will ask you to do. At some point you say – this is it – sell it. You rarely get your money back out of improvements. The now owners are as likely to throw your new faucets away and install ones like you had before as like them.
    On Trump. People are so desperate to have anybody who isn’t a butt sucking member of the fake two headed party they would take a convicted serial killer. They are weary. No matter who they vote for the same old shit keeps happening over and over. They have NOTICED and the internet has made it worse. Time to get rid of the internet and anything else that threatens government power. Cash money.

  10. Trump is our modern version of Father Coughlin and/or Huey Long. He’s just a problem top of a problem.

    • Not Huey Long. Long actually tried to accomplish things while stealing everyone blind.

      • Good point. It would be another case of “Vote for the Crook, It’s Important!”

        • Also, Huey Long was clever in a way that Trump is not.
          There’s a story that he wanted a highway built between two cities. The legislature voted enough funds to build ten miles of road, nowhere near enough, figuring that he’d build from one city or the other, and tick off the one who didn’t build the road.
          So, instead, he built it right smack dab in the middle.
          Appropriate funds to finish the road were soon voted.

  11. You might want to put up a quick website for your house. Register the URL, Godaddy has a deal for $2.99 for the domain. A neighbor of my parents is selling their house and did a website. $1.2 Million in LA County. Website was nothing special. And on the forsale sign, they put the url. It was the street number and street name. Total of 6 characters long. And then put up a bunch of pictures, along with words under it, imagine living here.

    And since your a writer, it’s a no brainer on getting some amazing text on your house.

  12. Look at listing your house on Zillow. That’s one of the sites that led us to Texas.

  13. At least they aren’t using cows for artillery…….

  14. This song, by not-quite-bluegrass band The SteelDrivers. Rural horror/fantasy, with a Firefly-esque musical twang.

    http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/steeldrivers/shallow-grave-37336.html

  15. Why castanets?
    Because they’re castanets!
    They’re “more cowbell” you can hold in one hand!

  16. Listening to “In the Pines…” does rather put me in the mind of a novel. A young girl runs away from home after the murder of her father, only to find herself stumbling into something much worse…

    I think I may have just found this year’s NaNo project. Thanks, Sarah!

  17. Actually I think that sort of behavior by “Emerson Cuiper” is not all that surprising around CNN…

  18. I don’t have time to read through the comments, but I will give you my opinion of why people are supporting Trump. Note: I am not a Trump supporter, and think the only one on the Republican slate that would make a worse President would be Huckabee, even Christy, as much as I despise the man, would be as good, if not better than Trump.

    It is fairly simple, the things Trump keeps saying? They are the same things that the proles supporting him (and many who don’t support him) are yelling at the radio every morning on their drive to work, and the same things they are yelling at the TV at night when they sit down and crack open a beer after dinner.

    I don’t like his not ruling out running as an independent either. But I don’t think it was a necessarily bad strategic move on his part either. It probably won’t affect his campaign support much, one way or the other, while when put on the spot, if he had ruled it out. It would have dynamited any support if he later tried to run as an independent, whether in an attempt to be a true candidate or possibly even as a spoiler candidate attempting to get Hillary elected.

    • And what I’m saying is that any serious candidate who said those things would be destroyed by the MSM. They’re pulling punches with Trump, because he’s THEIR boy.

  19. I’m shocked that I don’t see this in the comments yet, but for those of us from Gen X, “Where Did You Sleep Last Night” is probably best known as the final song that Nirvana played on “MTV Unplugged in New York”. For those of you who don’t know it, the album is amazing, and probably not what you think of when you hear “Nirvana”.

    • Meh. Shoot me. I think Nirvana is more overrated than the Doors, and that’s saying much, so no, I didn’t know about the song.

    • I realize it is your screen name, but I grew up over by where Cobain lived. My personal knowledge of him definitely affected my opinion of the quality of his music, and not in a good way.

  20. Love that snippet from BT

    Hope things look up soon.

  21. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

    General Comment on the “Burn It All Down” types.

    Such people always assume that when the ashes cool down they’ll be the ones to rebuild.

    I suspect that such people would be lynched by the general public because of the damage they did.

    If we’re lucky, somebody else will build something better but if we’re unlucky the rebuilders would build something worse.

  22. Just popping to say that I’m not dead yet. Inservice started today. My schedule will be lighter once school actually starts.

    That and I’m really having to trim back participation in political discussions in open fora for the moment. Because school.

  23. Good Grief, Charlie Brown!

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!
    8:35 AM – 28 Mar 2014

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/422337/trump-anti-vaxxer-wesley-j-smith

    Twit!

  24. BTW – follow the money, honey:

    GLOBAL WARMING: A $1.5 TRILLION INDUSTRY
    The Climate Change Business Journal has calculated that global warming is now a $1.5 trillion a year industry. The Business Journal’s report is not available for free online, but its findings are reviewed by the Insurance Journal. They are eye-opening, to say the least:

    The $1.5 trillion global “climate change industry” grew at between 17 and 24 percent annually from 2005-2008, slowing to between 4 and 6 percent following the recession with the exception of 2011’s inexplicable 15 percent growth, according to Climate Change Business Journal.

    The San Diego, Calif.-based publication includes within that industry nine segments and 38 sub-segments. This encompasses sectors like renewables, green building and hybrid vehicles.

    [SNIP]

    Ferrier believes the [Obama administration’s Clean Power] plan may eventually prove to be a driver of further growth in the industry. That is if the plan withstands any legal challenges from states, industries and entities opposed to it. …

    Policy, or the anticipation of new policy, has been one of the biggest drivers of the industry, the report shows.

    RTWT

    Apparently, consulting is the route to take if you want low-investment, high returns in this burgeoning field.

  25. Christopher M. Chupik

    I suspect Trump’s biggest supporters are the Democrats. Certainly the media desperately needs him to be the Republican frontrunner.

  26. Like I been saying, the Trump supporters remind me heavily of RonPaul supporters. Latch on to one thing and hang on for dear life. It is a lot like the Ronulan I knew who was also a Canadian style Single Payer fan. Other than saying some of the right things about immigration (oft times in a stupid way) what exactly makes him a conservative or heck, even a rinoesque centrist? His gun stance? His views on bailouts and crony capitalism? All the money paid to the Clintons? Can’t be his business acumen, he goes bankrupt on a regular basis.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      And he’s friends with the Clintons. This cannot be stressed enough.

    • “Can’t be his business acumen, he goes bankrupt on a regular basis.”

      Explains the appeal of Trump right there.

    • Trump’s fan’s remind me of a few things:
      1) Some poor besotted wretch being seduced by a scoundrel. “But they say such nice things! They must be an honest, loving, caring person! The jail time and multiple divorces wasn’t their fault!”
      2) A rube that doesn’t understand a key point in sales is to establish a rapport. They do this by finding out, then agreeing with the rube’s views and opinions. “Why, it’s obvious that Jeff’s my buddy! $400 per month for 99 months must be a good deal on a used Yugo!”

  27. I still think that Trump is a stalking Horse for the Hillary. This is not about what’s best for the nation but to feed his inflated Ego.

  28. I liked the Sargaceiros de Apulia – Malhao – Festas de Sao Joao em Braga

  29. “gamegetterII | August 10, 2015 at 7:06 pm |

    The Tea Parry effect was/is negligible.”

    That was the main one I used in fencing, and it surely was negligible. The Parry Mason (brick wall) and the Parry Como (casual, looked slow, always in time, though), I could never master.

    • Are you sure you were doing it properly? Some people attempt it with a china teapot and that usually ends up badly. For best results I found using a silver or pewter teapot worked best, especially if you first hurled the hot tea into the opponent’s face.


      Although only referenced in the above clip, this film offers an excellent tutorial on fighting with furniture.

  30. Sarah, having attended a lot of Tattoos, Scottish games and a surprising number of Burns’ nights, I have to say that is some really clean piping.

    Stick and footwork too, but the piping is crisp, clean and true.

    (and..ahem, the gentle citizens of Braga must get a lot of snickers from the Spanish)

  31. I suspect cats may be too smart for this, but back when we had lots of dogs running around, I could almost always get one that was playing “I’m not going to eat” to change their mind by offering the food to another dog. Somehow having someone else’s nose in the dish makes it much more tasty.

  32. Just be glad you’re not trying to rent the house out….

  33. This morning the NY Post editorial page offered an example of something the GOP has achieved, something I am confident their critics here will dismiss as meaningless:

    Obama’s Gitmo déjà vu
    If President Obama wants to close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay before he leaves office, it’s looking like he’ll have to appoint himself secretary of defense.

    The president is in yet another increasingly public conflict with his defense secretary over the prudence of emptying out the prison.

    All the guys left at Gitmo are still there for a reason, after all.

    “The White House wants to quickly cut the number of detainees at Guantánamo Bay,” The Daily Beast reported Monday. “One man is standing in the way: . . . Defense Secretary Ash Carter.”

    The administration has cleared 116 detainees for release. But by law, the defense secretary has to sign off on any transfer. Carter is willing to sign the transfer papers for only 64.

    That leaves 52 Gitmo detainees awaiting Ash Carter’s John Hancock.

    [SNIP]

    Why is Carter clogging the pipeline? Doesn’t he know an Obama legacy is on the line? On Jan. 22, 2009 — two days into his presidency — Obama signed an executive order announcing the closure of Gitmo, setting a deadline of one year to move the then-241 detainees out.

    [SNIP]

    When news broke that Chuck Hagel was out as defense secretary after less than two years on the job, word leaked that Hagel’s hesitation to release Gitmo prisoners had caused tension with Obama. Hagel didn’t deny it: “Not everyone at the White House has agreed with me” on the pace of releasing detainees, he told CNN.

    Plus ça change. Carter — Hagel’s successor — is also at odds with the president on the same issue.

    The takeaway: Obama’s plan to empty Gitmo at all costs is so dangerous, ill-advised and unwise for US national security that two defense secretaries in a row would rather publicly frustrate the president than carry out this particular order.

    That is, they — like many Americans — prefer to just run out the clock on the Obama presidency.

    — END —

    Doubtless the Defense Secretary appointed to succeed Hagel would have been far less competent and responsible had the nominee only had a Democrat Senate committee to clear.

    The nature of the relationship between Congress and Administration is such that we have to look at things that don’t happen — freeing Gitmo detainees, Federal budgets that only grow 3% instead of 10, appointees who are not nominated, schemes not attempted (Cap & Trade, e.g.). This is especially the case with a man such as Obama who will boast about achievements that only occurred because he was prevented from one asinine policy or another. I am confident that if he had a free hand the EPA would effectively shut down all traditional power generation in this country — as evidenced by his recent edict, one which Pelosi and Reid would certainly have enacted legislation to require.

  34. There’s a rather more macho traditional Portuguese dance with sticks, the Fandango do Pau or Fandango Vara-paus

    It mixes traditional tap dance (fandango) with a traditional Portuguese martial art, o jogo do pau (The Stick Game). At https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajMnwhKgr1s there’s an old documentary about it (with English sub-titles). At https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQO5SvCzfdE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDdrgXZ319w you can see a couple of demonstrations. The second is during a medieval festival.

    Regards,
    Rui Jorge