Coordinated storm of crap

Posted on by Sarah A. Hoyt

Many of us are amused with how fast the left acquires a sudden mission to propagate the one holy acceptable opinion. How it changes overnight, and how it comes from all of them at once, in almost the same words. And how it gets repeated ad-nauseam, in defiance of all sense, until the message changes.

This has led the least kind among us (eh. Myself, sometimes) to refer to our leftist brethren as “NPC”s who do whatever the programmers put in their heads.

The sad truth, though, is they’re not NPCs. They’re humans, like the rest of us, just — a lot of them — through cowardice or a more conformist temperament, humans who want to be “right” with the “majority” as they perceive it. They, like most primitives the world over, have no moral center, and want to back the winner and the strong horse.

Add in a dose of truly bad education, and their self-conceit as smart, and what you have is someone who reads all the accepted publications, catches on to what they’re saying, and runs to get ahead of what they think will be (and to be fair is, of their kind only) a parade.

The sequence goes something like this: Leftists, for nefarious, stupid, or money reasons (and often all three) declare that they want something utterly, inconceivably stupid to happen: ban something, force some tech, whatever.

Immediately, on command, some “scientist” (usually of the softer side) who smells grant money does studies showing this idea is brilliant and will bring about utopia. The stupid is flawed and irreproducible, but the journalists are all leftists who want to “support the current thing” and jump on it. Suddenly every possible and some imaginary publications tell us how the Current Thing is the most important thing ever, and it must be done nowwwww.

Take Joe Biden’s idea of cooling the Earth by covering the sunlight. — Okay, not his idea. Or maybe it is. Who knows how much meth they’re putting in his ice-cream? — But the idea of the group of people who form “Joe Biden.” Or the idea of those jokers at the WEF that the planet is BOILING and the only solution if for us peasants to surrender to their wisdom and eat the bugs, and give up private transportation.

All of a sudden maps showing perfectly normal summer temperatures are shown in red, and fire colors. And all the articles suggested for me by pocket talk about even more doom and gloom on the climate than normal: home insurance will stop working, because everything is going to burn up! (This shows you the pedestrian imaginations of the left. No wonder Hollywood is floundering. For heaven’s sake, if the Earth is going to end in fire, I can come up with bigger worries than home insurance. These people have been entirely too sheltered all their lives.)

And of course, your leftist friends are probably breaking down and sobbing in the middle of the day because they’re going to “burn up.” (I suggest laughing and saying “Yeah, it’s summer. Put on some sunblock, and let’s go get ice cream.” But then again, I enjoy liberal tears. They’re so refreshing.) I do suspect, however, that except amid the young and stupid (the two conditions often go together, but less so if you didn’t send them to public school), this is finding no purchase. Because the rest of us know “Yeah, it’s summer.”

Which means this gambit is going to ramp to insanity, because you see, the left believes the stuff they make up. It’s part of who they are. Social, highly obedient personalities. So, they have no idea how to back down. It will become a holy crusade, all the more holy for being unbelievably stupid.

That is the big obvious play right now. But there are more subtle ones. You see, I live in a very weird place, being hyper aware politically, and living with someone who is not political at all.

So my husband sees these “studies” cross his screen, and has no idea why this is being pushed, or that it makes no sense whatsoever.

I — as many of you know, and it causes entire days to fall into nothing, when I have to take benadryl to stop it — suffer from hellish eczema. It’s better than it was at altitude, but it’s still pretty bad. My darling is always on the look out for articles on things that might help (Yes, I’ve tried some of the strangest remedies.)

So last week at lunch, he shows me an article saying showering with warm water might exacerbate skin conditions.

And he had no idea why I was laughing. “Honey,” says I. “Joe Biden wants to ban water heaters. Mostly because they want us to go back to pre-industrial hygiene standards, because that will kill off most of the population.”

He stares at me for a moment, then makes a disgusted noise. “I should have known!”

Yes, he should. But he doesn’t pay attention to politics, so he’s not aware of the crazy stuff they’re going to try to push next.

I’d be angry, except at this point, all this push, and all this coordinated messaging is not working like it used to.

I remember their big push for “all women have to work outside the house or they’re worthless” — it was everywhere, from women’s magazines to newspapers to official “studies” and it made three generations of women absolutely believe it and follow it lockstep (including my generation, yes.)

I remember when they were pushing for something, like oh affirmative action. Suddenly from case studies to sitcom characters everything would have the same message, till if you said anything against it, you’d be considered crazy.

Here’s the thing: it’s not working. Their spin on illegal immigration, which, yes, included sitcoms, did not budge the needle on Americans lack of appetite for it. Their CRT push, with again all artists fully behind this, did not budge the needle except amid leftists themselves. Their climate push has most people either laughing or increasingly angrier (and usually both.) And their attempt to make us be unwashed for our own good is going to fall even flatter. Most of us are already pissed off at toilets that don’t flush and machines that don’t wash.

But the left doesn’t know how to quit. I’m looking forward to studies showing that candlelight makes you prettier and keeps you younger longer. They’re coming, mark my words.

And we have to laugh, because crying won’t help anything.

We’re going to have to let them tantrum and say all the stupid things. Until it ends. And we can’t make it end a minute earlier by being very upset.

But it ends.

And in the end, we win, they lose.

Be not afraid. All they have is their control of the message. It’s a veritable coordinated storm of crap. Which, increasingly, only drowns them.

410 thoughts on “Coordinated storm of crap”

  1. It’s AMAZING what some folks expect others to believe, when a SIXTH GRADE education (actual education, mind, not mindless indoctrination) allows anyone to see right through them. As in, the “slow kids” (and yes, ox slow) could see right through ‘them’ like ‘they’ were Mylar film AND they (we) had X-ray vision. It’s rather depressing really. Shouldn’t SuperVillains be..well, at least kinda-sorta.. SUPER? I Other than SUPER-DOOPER-POOPER-SCOOPER-STOOPID?

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    1. Actually, dumber than SUPER-DOOPER-POOPER-SCOOPER-STOOPID.

      To properly operate a pooper scooper you need the following:

      Know which end is the handle, and which end is the scoop.
      Know not to operate it upside down.
      Know where to dispose of the waste.
      Know the difference between the waste and the litter.

      Which is one of the reasons why the Left supports illegal immigration. The immigrants at least know how to scoop poop properly.

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      1. Like all Democrats/Elitists/Aristocrats, now that their current crop of minority slaves are starting to wander off the Liberal Plantation they looking for replacement slaves.

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  2. “Willing Slave” – explains them to a T. They wish dictatorship, as long as they mostly agree with the dictator. They are not really willing to argue that agreement. It is for sale, so why argue. And if demanded unpaid they will eventually submit. Their moral morass is of their own creation. Some dive in. Some wade in. A few blunder in. But they are willing to be there.

    Works better in Klingon – tokhe straav’ (spit)

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  3. “But the left doesn’t know how to quit. I’m looking forward to studies showing that candlelight makes you prettier and keeps you younger longer.”

    The Reader wonders, given the hellish color spectrum of most of the attempted replacements for incandescent bulbs, whether this one might be true…

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    1. It is for me. Candlelight, moonlight, and soft incandescent are my favored light sources if I’m looking in the mirror. They soften a multitude of flaws.

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    2. “Soft white” bulbs are 2700K or maybe 3000K. Candles tend to be ‘warmer’ (in Kelvin, actually cooler) so…. as the lady says, candlelight IS more like to be more complimentary (or forgiving) than ‘pure white’ (4000-4100k).

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      2. This ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature yes its wikipedia but it has good tables/charts). Basic sunlight runs about 5900K candles are like 1500K way down at the red end of stuff. Our eyes response to light is distinctly non linear as is our color response. our Red and green sensors are 10x the efficiency of the blue ones. Probably because there is not a heck of a lot of blue food ( Blueberries somewhat excepted although they run towards purple…).

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        1. “There is no blue food! Don’t say blueberries, they’re purple!” — George Carlin

          Our eyes are most efficient at seeing green light. The Y (luminance) channel in color TV is composed of 59% green, 30% red and 11% blue, because that’s the relative brightness of red, green and blue to our eyes.

          Most ‘white’ LED lights actually produce blue light, some of which is converted to green and red by phosphors in the encapsulating plastic. Fluorescent lights produce ultraviolet light, which is converted to visible light by a phosphor coating on the inside of the tube. Still about 10x the efficiency of incandescent lights.

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          1. Where the heck was Carlin finding purple blueberries? I work with blueberries every day, and I assure you that they are blue. The juice inside the blueberry is what’s purplish.

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      3. I took a set of pictures a week or so back that were definitely on the “oh lordy it’s hot” side. I had to do a color shift to make them look cooler than the temps we were actually photographing at.

        Lucky for me, that’s my job, so it worked as intended.

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    3. Article last week (retreated, but I think it was the LA Times) “asking,* if deliberate blackouts could help “fight,” climate change.
      Then they can try to use peer pressure/public shaming on people who object.

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      1. I know you meant ‘retracted’ but considering those involved and the astonishingly trans-plutonian level of st00p1d, ‘retreated’ is SO very apt!

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      3. public shaming
        We already see this in California re watering lawns.
        If you’re the prepper type, do think about the social implications as well: Do I have a quiet generator? Can I hide the solar panels? The empty cans?

        It’s one thing to have survived that boating accident, and quite another if you’re the only house with the lights on when the monsters come to Maple St.

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        1. Sufficiently large solar arrays are hard to hide, but if one gives the impression that such arrays are grid-tied, one can reap the benefits with less notice. Blackout curtains for the win.

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        2. One approach is to tell everybody that your (off-grid capable) system is grid-tie, and will be useless in a SHTF scenario. Blackout curtains are a good idea, as are various approaches to quietude.

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    4. Uhhh…candle wax (paraffin) is made out of oil. You’d get far more light by burning that oil in a power plant and using an incandescent bulb.

      Now that they actually work, I’m in favor of LED lights. I like reliable devices that efficiently produce what you want, which for most light bulbs is light, not heat. The E-Z-Bake Oven is an exception. Oh, wait, ovens are Eeevul!

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        1. There aren’t enough bees to replace electric lights, by a factor of about 100. I also suspect it takes more energy to harvest and process beeswax into candles than to just use electric lights.

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          1. Electric light, even “old school” incandescent bulbs are so AMAZINGLY more cost & energy efficient than other options that they took over for good reason. Fluorescent was a bit better, IF it was done right and maintained (as if). The ONLY thing truly cheaper & easier was daylight – if it was an option. Modern LED’s, if well chosen, can do better, but… oil lamps (whether olive oil ala Aladdin & Genie) or kerosene, or ‘gas’ (pick one) even with mantle, or candle… electric light wins on not just convenience and (lack of ) fire risk, but even the worst electric lamps beat EVERYTHING else – save sunlight itself. It’s hard to win against free fusion.

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            2. I’ve got 3 ‘solar tube’ skylights in my house. One of them brightens up a windowless bathroom, transforming it from a dark cave to a source of light for the hall. One lights the kitchen, and the third does wonders for a windowless laundry room. Free light, all day long!

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          2. Parrafin is from petroleum, thus banned for serfs.

            Beeswax, or float a wick in a cup of surplus fat/oil from the kitchen

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            1. You vill use ze Rushlights, und you vill be happy! Or else!

              Reminds me of a line from The Cross-Time Engineer:

              The light was supplemented by an oil lamp at your elbow which in fact burned pig fat, under protest.

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        2. Oh, look who thinks he’s so high and mighty. You’ll use rushlights like the rest of the deplorables. Better yet, go to bed as soon as it’s dark. Then you will burn fewer calories and need less food.

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    6. Does the left know that paraffin, the cheapest wax for making candles, is made from, gasp, petroleum, aka crude oil?

      Or that beeswax is a byproduct of bee keeping, and the bees are kept alive by eating the pollen and nectar from the crops they pollinate. The same crops they want farmers to stop growing? Speaking of crops to not be grown, another popular candle wax is soy wax, from soybeans. Which are also used to make soy-based ink for printing newspapers and other propaganda.

      Hmmm, a reduction in junk snail mailings might not be that bad a consequence . . .

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  4. The thing is, old Joe is right, or rather the powers behind the throne feeding him teleprompter scripts are correct. It’s a proven historical fact that a proper shield in the upper atmosphere could actually cool the Earth. But be careful what you ask for.
    Mount Tambora is a volcano on the island of Sumbawa in present-day Indonesia, then part of the Dutch East Indies, and its 1815 eruption was the most powerful volcanic eruption in recorded human history. This volcanic explosivity index (VEI) 7 eruption ejected 37–45 km3 (8.9–10.8 cubic miles) of dense-rock equivalent (DRE) material into the atmosphere, and was the most recent confirmed VEI-7 eruption.
    The eruption caused a volcanic winter. During the Northern Hemisphere summer of 1816, global temperatures cooled by 0.53 °C (0.95 °F). This very significant cooling directly or indirectly caused 90,000 deaths. In writings of the time 1816 was commonly referred to as “The Year Without A Summer.”
    Data pulled from Wiki so go there for the full story.
    Now 90,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions killed by a simple mistake in a bio lab somewhere in China, but do we really want those responsible to have responsibility for “tweaking” our climate in hopes of making things better. for their definition of better, which we already know is them as elites ruling over a mass of ignorant plebes dependent on them for our every need.

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    1. If you pull the numbers together and include “people who died in the political unrest following the weather splat,” the cold period of 1590-1650 eliminated up to 20% of the global population. Some districts in China, where records survive, lost up to 90% from famine, disease, civil conflict, and people fleeing to try and find something better. Geoffrey Parker’s book about the period is fantastic, if a little grim.

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        1. Global Crisis: War Climate Change and Catastrophe in the Seventeenth Century 2013 release. Ignore the obligatory “manmade global warming” bits that his editors insisted on. (One of his illustrations is the most disturbing piece of sculpture I have ever seen.) Another book that I’m enjoying is The Frigid Golden Age by Dagomar DeGroot. Full disclosure: I heard the paper that Dagomar gave on this topic, and also Sam White’s Climate of Rebellion and A Cold Welcome. I kept my eyes open until they published the books, and bought them as soon as I could.

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    2. It would work. The real problem is the people running the dial have no clue what the appropriate temperature should be and would likely throw us into a year without summer trying to prove themselves right.

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        1. In rare unguarded moments those extremists have admitted that they would be delighted to remove around 90% of the Earth’s population.
          And the only sensible response IMHO is “OK, you first.”

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      2. The climate should exactly duplicate what they remember from when they were 12 years old. Everybody knows that climate is the best.

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    3. And a single supertanker full of iron oxide sprayed on the surface of the ocean would cause a bloom that would suck most of the man-made carbon out of the air and put it in the ocean food chain, eventually going to the bottom of the ocean. Cheap, low tech, easily doable. But that’s not the goal of the Left because it’s not about alleged Anthropological Global Warming/Climate Change. It’s all about their power and control, and frightened people are the easiest to control (until they panic and stampede over the top of you.)

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      2. And what effect would removal of that much CO2 have on surface plant life? Of course I have always suspected based on their own comments that the progressive left have no clue that the food they eat actually was grown on a farm at some point. Even some vegans seem to imagine that their fake meat was produced in a factory out of rainbow and unicorn farts rather than basic agricultural feed stocks.

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        1. Not only don’t they know food needs to be grown somewhere, the honestly have no idea that greenhouses pump CO2 in to get such great looking plants.

          The optimal range for plant growth in a greenhouse is over 1000ppm.

          Regular air has around 400ppm. And not rising near enough.

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            1. I keep fighting the temptation to ask them if they have ever considered that Gaia might have created Man to release all the trapped CO2 so She may once again bask in the warm, shallow seas and abundant plant life of the dinosaur era(s).
              I’m afraid to say if often for fear of starting a religious war.
              (Honestly, though – have true believers in AGW never gone to a natural history museum? Almost all of them will mention those millions of years when at least half the US was under water).

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      3. I am so glad to see someone else who actually understands how to pull CO2 out of the atmosphere. There are so few people who understand that phytoplankton is how CO2 is removed from the atmosphere and pulled into subduction zones where the heat and pressure turn the shells into petroleum. The stupid in everyday society burns…

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        1. That is called ‘ocean snow’ , it falls to the bottom of the sea where over the millennia it is compressed into shale stone. Than plate tectonics moves that shale stone to a subduction zones where it is heated and compressed further freeing the oil from the stone as the stone is returned to the mantle. That oil rises up to the surface through cracks in the plate above it. The earth make oil every day.

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          1. Butbutbut

            We are running out of oil!

            NoNoNo! Not renewable! No more being made!

            LAlalalalalala! Nanananananana!

            Beeeeebeeeebeeeeep (smoking…) Norman, co-ordinate!

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        2. It was a number of years ago, probably the 1st year people started yapping about AGW, that the article came out. I looked at the premises, and pulled up a bunch of oceanography information, and there was even a couple of feasibility tests done to support it.

          Sure, we can do this. But like a bunch of people have warned, do we really want to? We can’t exactly undo it.

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        3. That’s a thing that bothers me about the entire carbon capture concept: if all of that oil was biological matter, that implies we have a massive biomaterials loss going on.

          If it is oil, it’s not people or plants or animals, and the process appears to be ongoing.

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      4. Yeah, and if you did that, you might manage to drop the CO2 concentration below what current plants need to survive.

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    4. ANYTHING done to curb manmade CO2 is massively stupid. The official computer models themselves say that curbing manmade CO2 will, at their ridiculous extreme, reduce year 2100 temperatures by 0.37 degrees– barely measurable. AND it would deprive the “greening Earth” of plant food, and our population of the financial means to ADAPT to whatever climate may do. Right now that is cooling, but otherwise normal.

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    5. Now may not be in China; did you see story about apparent “illegal,” lab discovered with HIV, Covid, hepatitis, other disease organisms, plus 900 mice somewhere near Fresno?

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      1. Yes. That has me going, “Hmm…”

        IIRC, there was also mention that another one somewhere else might have been found earlier, though the authorities didn’t recognize what they were dealing with at the time, and so aren’t entirely sure what it was. I don’t remember the details, though.

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    6. I’m inclined to think that the morons suggesting it as a good idea know all this and are mostly thinking “Hey, this looks plausibly deniable!”

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    7. and as soon as they try it, the sun goes minimum and we get Fallen Angels though TPTB would see that as a feature, not a bug, because cold kills faster.

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  5. The “aliens are real” proclamations are failing and this is making me giddy with laughter. The government is desperately trying to refocus the attention of Americans away from their incompetence, so they pulled out their Ace card. And it’s not working. How awesome is that?

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            3. Government run alien hunters? You could be extra-savage with something like that.

              Goofy main character keeps pissing off his boss by actually catching aliens instead of just driving around like he’s supposed to? I’d read that.

              I’m writing that short story you recommended the other day, about halfway through now. By coincidence, my MC is hunting aliens and her biggest problem is the cops.

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                1. In 2023, it is hard to imagine the higher echelons of government -not- doing that isn’t it?

                  A measure of how far they’ve fallen in our eyes.

                  I have that in my story too, upper levels having MC arrested, other upper levels having MC released. At the beat-cop level some are asking questions and some are actively blind and deaf as a defense against upper levels.

                  It seems a poor sort of alien that can’t make a deal with crooked politicians, right?

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        2. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That aliens exist somewhere in the vastness of the universe is not, IMO, particularly extraordinary. That they’re visiting us here, however, is.

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          1. Um no there is no reason one claim should require more evidence than another. Just repeating the stupidest thing Sagan ever said over and over again does not make it true.

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            1. So the same kind and amount of evidence for “it’s raining here” and “I can alter the flow or electric current with my mind? (to use just one kind of example)” Really?

              One of those I’d be willing to take someone’s unsupported word for. The other, I’d want to see in a carefully controlled experiment with efforts made to eliminate possibilities of skullduggery, confirmation bias, or other sources of error.

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      1. Why would god create a Universe so vast and not give us puny humans someone to play with?
        Of course there are aliens out there, but they look at us like a teenager with a bunch of his friends would look at a six year old. They might intervene if we start to wander into the traffic or start playing with matches/atomic weapons. Other than that why would they be interested in us?
        And face it if they are watching us now they are going what the frack, you are building windmills when you have nuclear power? That is so ghetto.

        The last was stolen/paraphrased from someone else on this site, kudos to them.

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        1. The basis of most of Lovecraft’s mythos is that aliens capable of traveling the stars would be so immensely powerful compared to us, with science so far beyond ours, that we would be nothing but gnats to them and hardly “sapient” at all.

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          1. Well, if they are the six-year olds and we’re the teens, they wouldn’t be visiting us! :lol:

            More seriously, I’m annoyed by the SF “fans” who believe All Aliens are Vasty Superior to Humans to the degree that we’d never understand the Aliens. :sad:

            There might be the Great Old Ones out there, but it might turn out that we’ll become the Great Old Ones to younger species. :wink:

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            2. Weber’s “Out of the Dark” was a good reversal of that. I was expecting about halfway through the book that us humans would have hijacked one or two of their surface to space ships and taken the battle to them; but he decided to go gothic horror on us and have Dracula to the rescue.

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              1. The second book “Into The Light” is much better.

                In that book, the “monkey boys” are taking the alien technology and are quickly improving on it.

                Oh, Dracula (and the other vampires) turn out to be “Not Real Vampires”.

                They are “products” of high-tech. But it was more advanced technology than what the invaders possessed. No word yet on “who created that technology”. :wink:

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                1. Yep, much better book with a really strong “gosh-wow, technology!” vibe.
                  The trisexual aliens are interesting, too. (The aliens are having trouble adjusting to their alien visitors -us – too).

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            3. Ugh. I loathe the Ancient Aliens garbage that basically boils down to “Mankind couldn’t possibly be this clever so aliens did it!”

              Makes me want to slap them all.

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              1. That idiot idea is an off-shoot of the idea that An Ancient Lost Civilization Built That because those stupid savages couldn’t do that.

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              2. I do enjoy the archeological sites they bring up. Not that they show you the stuff that doesn’t support what they are trying to champion.

                One of the biggest things they like to say, “This site is above the tree line so no trees”. Excuse me. if they had to move the stones a few miles they could certainly move the trees a few miles as well.

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                    1. Apparently they had a variety of palm that wasn’t great wood. Clearing them and using rock mulch gardens really improved their agriculture:

                      What ended up destroying their civilization seems to have been disease going through their population like a buzz-saw after they got exposed to the European stuff.

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                    2. Clearing the palms may have improved their agriculture, but it also made it impossible for them to build boats. They cut themselves off from all outside contact, and judging by their subsequent behaviour, they became as inbred as Beltway Democrats.

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                  1. People saying humans aren’t smart enough to pile stones and make stuff never lived or worked on a farm, or on Military gear, most ship/alt’s comm from the people in the field who had to make this fancy expensive shit work.

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                    1. I really liked the stonemason who pointed out that anybody can have stone walls that fit together perfectly. You just have to sand down and polish the stone onsite, and fit the stones together once they are sanded and polished enough to fit exactly. Most cultures just aren’t as perfectionist about it; and the ones that are, only get perfectionist about “important” stonework.

                      And it turns out that every culture that was that perfectionist had easy access to gravel and sand, which they used for sanding and polishing. Sometimes there were even onsite workshop areas that still had lots of leftover sand and gravel sitting around.

                      Sort of a triumph of the obvious answer…. But man, it sure was never brought up on In Search Of, or any of the ancient aliens shows.

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          2. Because they have the technology to get here, and we don’t have the technology to go there.

            Just like Europeans developed ocean-going ships, while Africans and North/South Americans didn’t.

            But that’s RRRAAACISSST!!!

            If the government really had been hiding crashed alien spaceships for the last 70 years, we would have that technology by now.

            And WHY O WHY would aliens come all this way and then do such silly shit when they got here? I know, “Thing about aliens is, they’re alien.” but they should at least be rational! Why would they only be interested in the shallow end of the gene pool?
            ———————————
            “There are beings in the universe billions of years older than either of our races. Once, long ago, they walked among the stars like giants, vast and timeless. They taught the younger races, explored beyond the Rim, created great empires. But to all things, there is an end. Slowly, over a million years, the First Ones went away. Some passed beyond the stars, never to return. Some simply disappeared.”

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            1. Julian May’s had Earth under observation by the very advanced (but essentially pacifistic) Galactic Milieu. The observing race, being young and bored, would sometimes forget themselves and play practical jokes on us.

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              1. Saw the premise offered some years back that we were in fact being observed by a superior alien race that recognized when two cultures of significantly disparate technology meet and interact it causes great damage to the less advanced one. So they observe discretely while protecting us from knowledge of their existence. And the observers are in effect research professors with teams of grad students to do the scut work. And every so often some of those students partake of their equivalent recreational pharmaceuticals then go off and buzz the natives for a little entertainment. Explains UFO sitings quite nicely, but doesn’t really address the issues of cattle mutilations or anal probes.

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                1. Re: Anal probes. Ponder memory and imperfections thereof. Now, how is a newborn’s temperature measured? And what would those doing the measuring appear like to someone that has NO reserve of experience with medical types and hospitals? Should those memories later re-surface after some… incident…

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          3. Same reason that humans don’t count for “someone to play with.”

            We need to get out there and explore the universe, because we ARE the aliens we’ve been looking for.

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        3. Why would god create a Universe so vast and not give us puny humans someone to play with?

          Of course he gave us someone to play with.

          We have CATS don’t we. If they aren’t alien entities I don’t know what is.

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          1. You know, pets are the reason why I think humans would be able to get along with alien species. A couple of generations and we’d have slavering Xenomorphs eating out of our hands (as opposed to eating them).

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    4. It works on THEM. They always wanted superior aliens to come and prove them right. That’s why their aliens are not really corporeal, etc.
      The rest of us are going “Whatever.”

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      1. There’s a sh*tty trope in too many (older) UFO movies that goes “the evil government wants to hide the truth about the angelic aliens”. :sad:

        After seeing ET, I joked about feds tracking down an alien landing and the aliens were Klingons. :twisted:

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        1. Nope. We are the Kingons/Kzinti.

          Hijack their ship, the peace-hippie-schmucks. Reverse engineer its tech.

          The super efficient STL drive is a deathray. So is a dropped rock with enough velocity

          The FTL gets us where we can deathray/rock their worlds.

          Empire of Man.

          (Grin)

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          3. I’m just about finished that. >:D

            Alien necromancers sent demons to Earth by eldritch means. They lasted thirty seconds, because AI Valkyries and cranky Humans.

            Later, a ramjet drops out of warp inside the alien system, unfurls a scoop and takes up a constant acceleration course for their capital planet. It’s a -big- ship.

            It broadcasts the following message: “Greetings, friends! We come in peace!”

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    5. But guys, the aliens are totes real! And they’re very concerned about Trump and climate change! The people who lie to you every day are totally not lying this time!

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  6. When the “We’re going to ban GAS STOVES because global warming / think of the children / etc” started up, that’s when my contrariness gene kicked in and I started seriously discussing with the wife retiring our electric stove and getting a gas stove.

    And, guess what?
    Now we’ve got a gas stove, the wife likes it over the electric (well, except for constantly forgetting to turn on the fan on the over-the-range microwave before cooking,) and we plan to keep it until it dies.

    Now they want to ban gas water heaters? You’ll get my water heater when you pry it out of my house during demolition!

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    1. Actually, the on-demand gas water heaters we had in Okinawa are among the most energy efficient heaters on the planet. Get a large capacity one and you can run three showers at once, and the washing machine, and not run out of hot water. Of course, you need a decent water pump for that much load.

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      2. My dad is the most extra house project person ever; he hates house projects, but while adding on a kitchen (which somehow turned into doubling our house), he decided to put in a water heater powered by solar panels. So now we have a 700-gallon heat sink tank in our basement, and that sucker heats the floors in the addition, plus all the culinary water we could ever use – and we use a lot during gardening/preserving season. Highly recommend if you’re ever building your own house – it’s already paid itself off by lowering the heating bill for the rest of the house.

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    3. We’ve been discussing it too. I prefer gas. We don’t want to spend a ton of money on this house, as we’re likely to move when the kids settle if they settle near each other, but–

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      1. We switched to propane cooking 11 years ago. I had natural gas for a couple of decades in Silly Valley, and it was nice to get the heat control back. It didn’t hurt that the new range has a middle burner; it’s easy for us to get to, but far enough back to discourage canine counter surfers. :)

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          1. Had a roommate after college that had a cat. It tried to steal a cooking steak out of the pan by unhinging it’s jaw and biting into the top of the steak which was cooler. I’m looking at this with MY jaw unhinging.

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              2. I’ve caught Tj pulling the floor metal vent covers up. Doesn’t take them anywhere, but he is definitely pulling them out of the holes. Dang cat. We get surprised every day with “where in the heck did he find this?” Open dad’s roll top desk and Tj teleports there, I swear. The sink stoppers is a new one, I will admit (will stop thinking about this, because Tj will pick up that thought). Dang Cat.

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                1. His latest is pulling up screw nuts. We’re on a quest to find where he unscrewed them from. Which reminds me the one in my pocket because I took it from him needs to be checked against the standing dress.

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                    1. No, the cat is just trying to murder you, as cats are want to do. He’s just trying to make it look like an accident when some heavy piece of furniture collapses on you.

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                    2. Tj. Not a rope or shoe string that is safe. He is currently dragging one of the ones we haven’t hid from him around. (Snakes or snails either. On supervised outings if Tj suddenly bolts for the house for “no reason” (sprinklers weren’t triggered, big loud deep voice dog next door & Pepper don’t suddenly start conversing, etc.) chase after Tj because he has something he is not suppose to have (and he knows it). So far: Garter snake, Snail, and Worm.

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          2. Dog is too small to be a counter or table surfer. We have 4 cats who surf. Gotten good about discouraging being around the stove.

            Indy is the right age for getting into everything, especially as clingy as you have reported, I am not surprised.

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              1. We tend to have very smart animals too. I think it is partly genetics, and partly environment, even as young as the intelligence shows up. And, yes, we’ve regretted having some of ours spayed/neutered too. But just too many out there needing loving homes. Besides, we’d be neck deep (we couldn’t give any away).

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              2. Didn’t really want to have Gort fixed either. He’s exactly the kind of people friendly feline you’d want more of. But that was the humane society’s rules, they don’t release animals that haven’t been neutered or spayed. Beats having him killed.

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                1. None of the local feline rescues will release a cat into adoption without being neutered/spayed, no matter how young. Foster fail is just about the only way to wait until 6 months. They also require no free roaming, house bound and catio options only. Which is why we don’t get kittens through any of the feline rescues. (So far keeping the three newest inside, outside only supervised. About to expand that. Hubby wants to bring home sole surviving cat from the golf coarse. Working out the logistics with the veterinarian now. Already neutered. Has had original rabies and basic shots. Will need flea meds, 3 year rabies, basic shots, check over, and nails clipped (I’m not trying that, yet). Hubby, as well as the staff, and other golfers, have been feeding cats, not only kibble, but canned. Occasionally if hubby remembers, left over rotisserie chicken. Hubby says he comes up to him when hubby shows up in the parking lot. Allows petting and picking up. We’ll see how it goes.)

                  The canine rescues I’ve heard are the same. But the rescue we got Pepper from allowed me to foster to adopt until she was spayed at 6 months. Oh, they wanted her fee immediately, but she wasn’t officially ours until she was spayed. They paid. They also paid through first year shots. Now that the low end spay and neuter clinic is gone, not sure how they are handling that. Her fee covered not only her expenses but would cover medical and fostering expenses on down the line. They do that with puppies. But her fee wouldn’t come close to covering spaying and shots at normal rates, even 6 years ago. Worse now.

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                  1. The two dogs we got through the local animal shelter, both had to be spayed before adoption. Sara the Lab-Aussie was 8 and a half weeks old, and IMHO was too young. She pulled her stitches the evening after we picked her up, and a frantic phone call and a very fast drive later, we got her to the vet for re-stitching.

                    Angie the Border Collie was about 12 weeks old, and took it fairly well. When we got Kat from a private party, we waited until she was 11 months old. Zero problems. The property is fenced and most (all?) of the neighbor dogs are girls, anyway. Turns out the one sketchy neighbor has a daughter living there who has a pit bull. Not a happy doggo, either.

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                    1. Pepper was through a rescue. Still don’t know how I convinced the rescue to wait. A lot of talking. Shouldn’t have worked.

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            2. Maximum Maxwell’s nose is right at counter height. He can get his entire head onto the dinner table, and does. Nothing like a large dog head under your arm while you’re eating, sniffing away at the plate.

              I’m quite impressed how seldom he steals food off the counter. Hardly ever does it, really. He does beg relentlessly, but that is expected.

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        2. Where you are, rural, Propane would be the only option. Sister who lives in a rural subdivision (5+ acre lots) has to have propane for their stove, fireplace, too. Also how they heat the pool and hot tub. They use electricity for house heat and A/C. (Washington state, where power really is all public utilities, and a lot less expensive than compared to the public utilities in our area, let alone EWEB.) OTOH last time they filled their propane tank they had a bit to say about the cost.

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        3. My mother had all gas appliances when I was growing up. We had a monthly delivery from the LG company. After the tornado of 1974 (the Super Outbreak), we were without electricity for 10 days, but all of our appliances, stove, refrigerator, freezer, were gas, we ended up cooking for the neighborhood.

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      1. On general principle, yes.
        As food? Bugs tend to have a high parasite load, but Bureaucrat is a parasite endemic to the nation’s wallets. Let’s not risk giving them more direct access.

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  8. For the last ten years, the earth has been COOLING! Scientific FACT. But obviously fact doesn’t matter when your religious dogma is questioned, and that’s what this is. It is all part of the absolute liberal belief system that they are smarter than you, and morally superior to you, so thus they are entitled to run your life as they see fit. And that is regardless of fact or what they might “think” 5 minutes ago or 5 minutes from now.

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      1. Yup. We are in the Holocene Interglacial Period — a brief interval of warm climate between Ice Ages. 80% of the last few million years has been Ice Ages.

        But those are mere facts. ‘Progressives’ are sooo smart, they have no use for facts.
        ———————————
        ‘Progressives’ will do the wrong thing just because the people they hate do the right thing. Like punishing the innocent and rewarding the guilty.

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        1. Axial Procession, the wobble of the axis that takes 26,000 years to complete its cycle no doubt has something to do with it.

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          1. I also read somewhere that the rise of the Panama Isthmus contributed to the more frequent ice ages by cutting off the currents that circulated between the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and the rise of the Himalayas changed atmospheric circulation patterns that blocked tropical air from flowing north over a very wide area of Asia,

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        2. A good question is, if we yanked all that CO2 out of the air, how likely is it that instead of a mere glacial period, we drive ourselves into another snowball Earth?

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          1. According to some of the Econazis, that would be a feature, not a bug. [Looks fondly at can-o-tar and stray feathers around the property.]

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          1. Actually, according to a lot of estimates, we’re overdue by as much as 1,000 years. The Little Ice Age might have been the opening act of a Big Ice Age if…something…hadn’t reversed the trend. Along with the sun heating up.

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            1. Communism is the cure for all sorts of things. Freedom. Prosperity. Comfort. Security. Truth.

              …and the Trees were all kept equal
              By Hatchet, Axe, and Saw…

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            2. Yep. I meant in this case the media is due to flip again. I think I saw a possible early adopter moaning about “warming ocean water turning off the Gulf Stream and we’ll be sorry!”

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      2. My beloved watches YouTube for things like news from Ukraine and space news, but sometimes after he falls asleep, other videos come on. One, last night, talked about climate and actually mentioned the Malinkovich cycle. Then the urbane British- sounding narrator brought in the “rise in CO2 in the last 100 years,” and how, “scientists,” were concerned about the disruptive effect of such a rapid rise….which is when the gloomy, portentious music started up in the background. Sheesh. I was impressed they bothered with mentioning real climate cycles rather than just going with, “scientists say…” But the music moved it straight into propaganda mode.

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      3. The ice age will return? Maybe not…if we do the global warming thing right. (heh)

        Maybe that’s what Earth evolved humans for (or God put us here for, if you prefer), is to do what no other species can: liberate carbon that has been sequestered over geological ages and release it back into the biosphere, so life can continue to thrive and the planet can avoid a hundred million years of ice.

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      4. An article I read about one of the mammoths they found frozen in Siberia, (Take it for what it’s worth Russian scientists after all) reported that it was basically flash frozen in a matter of minutes. It still had flowers and such in it’s stomach. The type of flower that only grow when it’s warm. Anecdotal evidence that cold snaps can happen quite quickly.

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  9. A giant “solar shield” is also a Bond-Villian superweapon.

    No.

    “Your people are unruly hotheads. No sun in Freedonia for two years should cool your ardor. ”

    And if the flip side is -reflective- ….

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    1. These morons could start the next Ice Age, who knows maybe that’s how the last Ice Age started. We know there have been several different Ice Ages and a mile of Ice would remove a whole lot of signs of civilization. Throw in a couple Tsunami’s/Typhoons/Hurricanes/Blizzards, a plague or two and there goes Civilization for another thousand years.

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        2. Starting a glaciation cycle could easily extinguish 90% of humanity.

          Of -course- they are unaware of this and didn’t intend it. Right.

          …

          Folks think ice age icecaps expand through the glaciers slow-march advancing over millennia. Not quite right. The permafreeze line moves simultaneously with a huge upswing in precipitation . Snow sticks and piles up. The ice cap grows up, and then it also grows out. This snowpocalypse continues until the oceans drop hundreds of feet and the climate dries out.

          That permafreeze line can move a hundred miles or more in a year when climate flips the Ice Age switch. In a decade it has moved a thousand miles. It is a massive feedback cascade. Lots of little things line up, stability seems to continue rhe warm times, until some special event like a big volcano or asteroid breaks the merely metastable pattern and the ice runs riot.

          The snow buries everything, quickly. The immense pike crushes itself to ice, then to flow. What was below is quick frozen, then smashed, then ground to bits, then flowed to the terminal moraines, some of which are offshore.

          Imagine the consequences of that. And the best murphy-evidence for catastrophic icing may be the nincompoops shrieking about warming.

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        3. If they do it too hard, someone will build a giant laser and crispy critter the sunshade.

          It just takes time, motivation and the right know how.

          Also the werewithal to work with some truly poisonous / reactive / will kill you slowly and quickly stuff, but it can be done.

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    3. A giant “solar shield” is also a Bond-Villian superweapon.

      You’d think that taking a page out that playbook would give them pause for a moment.

      But who knows? Maybe they never watched any of the Bond movies because they were too full of wrong-think.

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          1. HEATHEN!!! Fun is not permitted except in the appropriately designated Happy Fun Theaters, where this week you can watch WEF Film Czar Uwe Bull’s latest masterpiece: “Fried Green Bugs”.

            (the name was intentionally misspelled)

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            2. Article I saw some time back which talked about how in what was then East Germany people had significantly more sex than people in West Germany.

              My thought was “well, duh. What else have they got to do for enjoyment in communist Europe.”

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      2. You keep using that word think with respect to the brahmandarins. Honestly, if you equate reason with think I do not believe the Brahmandarins can do that anymore. They emote, they quote doctrine, but reasoning is right out, in fact that is against doctrine and doubleplussungood that is white cis male territory (as demonstrated by our “Mormon Male” hostess) and is forbidden. They, having no real capacity for reason, have decided that Technology is Magic Having succumbed to Clarke’s law and Niven’s Corollary to Clarke’s Law. Their belief is less founded on reality than that of the South Seas Cargo Cultists. Unfortunately for them (and potentially us) Physical reality doesn’t give a rats ass what you believe or what your feelings are. Reality is (and always has been and always will be) a stone cold b*tch (apologies to female canines) and what we get from it must be taken with the sweat of our bodies and the sweat of our brow it is not usually freely given.

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        1. The Barry Manilows, ‘Feelings, Nothing more than feelings’ . The trick was Feelings don’t have to be logical. So you can feel, without thinking.

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      3. Maybe they were watching the Matrix instead. Way cooler

        “We don’t know who struck first, us or them, but we know that it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power and it was believed that they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.”

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      4. :points at the Jews:

        Exactly how often has “wipe out God’s chosen people” worked out well for the guys planning it?

        And yet, they keep choosing that, sometimes explicitly by name.

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        1. Yeah. I still fume at the preacher last year who was criticizing Ezra and Nehemiah for kicking out the “foreign,” wives and their kids. They should have been Inclusive and Tolerant! Instead they were Bigots!
          I muttered to myself, “If they had, they would have vanished in a century. Ecumenicism isn’t always a Good Thing.”
          Then he cherry-picked from Leviticus 25 to claim the Jubilee proved God favors redistribution of wealth, and we found another church. A much better one.
          I say cherry-picked, because he ignored the verses past where he stopped, the ones that essentially said, “Don’t enslave your fellow Israelites. That’s what the locals are for.”

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          2. And today I ran into some moron going “rah ra communist to the effect of “but I want it, I can steal and God says OK” and theoretically citing the Social Teachings of the Catholic Church….

            Hint, if your quotes look like a bad high school collage? You are not right.

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  10. An article I recently read explained how the change in how news is delivered by new services has caused those services to change. They went from trying to cater to the populace at large, or simply telling the truth if you will. To just trying to cater to those who were buying their services. It explains why the NYT/ WaPo, etc, were now just trying to satisfy those buying it’s services, instead of telling the truth. If the truth doesn’t make those paying for their services happy, they don’t print the truth. That is why they went so far left, only leftards buy their shit, so they cater to the shit for brains leftards. Since they all came from the same schools, they all have the same outlook and the same shit for brains ideas they were taught by their shit for brain teachers. So when one source prints that new shit for brains idea it is automatically spread throughout the web and society. And thus the rest of us have to suffer through another tidal wave of moronic shit from seemingly everywhere. Until the happy little morons playing with the shit idea of the moment get bored with it and the next ball of shit idea rolls down the trough for the little piggies to play with. At least I have my hip-waders.

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    1. The news media was already left. I remember reading an article in the ’80s in the LA Times making that point.

      If the papers weren’t biased, the conservatives wouldn’t have bailed. Fox demonstrated that the interest is there on the right. But the papers were biased, and so the conservatives and moderates jumped ship. Now the papers might have become even more hard left than they already were due to readership bias. But it’s wrong to say that they haven’t leaned left for decades.

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      2. Newspapers? You mean the ones where the Sunday paper is now a slim version of a slow Tuesday, they fired all of their editors, and they only print the crowd-sourced stuff because they can’t afford local reporters? Those things?

        You haven’t been able to get a paper route as a kid for decades now, because subscriptions are so low that you have to have a car just to cover a route…

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      1. Steve Allen once joked, “the secret to success is sincerity, and once you’ve learned to fake that, you’ve got it made.”

        Walter Cronkite took that joke as a how-to and turned it up to 11. He became “the most trusted man in America” because he could lie with impunity and no one would call him on it.

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      2. I agree but it was talking about the hard turn and them not even hiding it anymore. Wapo will loose 100 million this year. Bezos can afford it but for how long?

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        1. I offer you the scene in Citizen Kane, where Orson Welles tells a political adversary that, yes, his newspaper lost a million dollars this year, lost a million dollars last year, and will probably lose a million dollars next year. He concludes (as best as my memory can dredge it up), “You know, at the rate I’m going I’ll have to close this paper in …. … sixty years.”

          Jeff Bezos has Charles Foster Kane beat to heck and back. He can last for a thousand years at this burn rate (assuming he doesn’t get divorced again, or at least if the prenup stands up in court). It all depends on whether the political effects he’s getting are worth the expenditures.

          Et, republica restituendae.

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      3. At least through the mid 1970s (in the U.S.) any moderately large city had at least two competing newspapers. One was Left, the other presented itself as Conservative (but was usually more Centrist). You could read both and see why there was disagreement on any issue and decide how you felt about it.
        Then the great consolidation started and in nearly all cases the Left paper or a large Left newspaper group acquired the Conservative paper, though sometimes, as in the Cleveland area where I grew up, the more conservative paper (The Cleveland Press) just folded in (1982) while the left one The Cleveland Plain Dealer held on.

        Then in the 2000s the Internet starting killing newspapers entirely

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        1. The right/left pair actually survived in Utah until about 10 years ago. Now you still have the Tribune and Deseret News, but they’re owned by the same company and the Trib’s leftists have chased out all the sane people who used to work for the D-News.

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          1. Also the Deseret News is owned by Mormon church which is a not a leftwing organization*.

            *Much to the grief of all the leftwing Mormons I know.

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    3. An article I recently read explained how the change in how news is delivered by new services has caused those services to change. They went from trying to cater to the populace at large, or simply telling the truth if you will. To just trying to cater to those who were buying their services.

      So, written early 30s?

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      1. No specifically talking about them not even trying to hide it anymore with the added effect of them preaching to their subscribers, or if you prefer preaching to their choir.
        It used going after Clinton as opposed to not going after Biden as an example. In essence they are doing there best to protect Biden, who has actually done every thing they falsely accused Trump of. The reason they accused Trump of all they did was also to shield Biden. When you start bringing up Biden’s crimes the idiots on the left will just say oh you mean Trump, he did that. Which is why all leftoids in the press should burn in hell.

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    4. Which means we’re not living in the same reality, let alone the same country. I don’t think that ends well.

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  11. Well, I can see where bathing in cold water might affect a skin condition. The pores would close up, and less of what is in the water would be absorbed. But the solution to that is, of course, to get better quality water (if possible) or change the product(s) that you are bathing with. The latter, if they get their way, will also become impossible – why do the peasants need dozens of different soaps and shampoos – the State should supply just one!

    Candlelight does change your appearance. Myself, the family says it makes me look far more evil, rather than just perpetually annoyed.

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    2. Pro-tip: if you are experiencing skin irritation, try changing your detergent first.

      Many detergents – I’m looking at you in particulate TIDE – contain what they call “optical brighteners”. These optical brighteners can include such ingredients as ground glass.

      Which isn’t listed out on the ingredients because… it’s chemically inert!

      And we all know that the only possible way for skin to get irritated is chemically. /sarc

      I’m also told that optical brighteners make you show up really well on night vision, so don’t use them on your sneaking-around-in-the-dark clothes.

      This has been your PSA on things to try to relieve your skin irritation before heading for the prescription meds with death as a side effect.

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      1. Tide was the first detergent we eliminated from our marriage. I am severely allergic to the stuff (well haven’t tried for 44 3/4 years). Second one was Snowy (residual “scent”, for scentless, it leaves a scent) gives me headaches.

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        1. We’ve had success with Kirkland Free and Clear detergent. $SPOUSE likes liquid (powder and septic don’t play well together) Oxyclean detergent, but that seems to have fallen in the Out-of-stock bin of doom.

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          1. Kirkland Free and Clear detergent
            ………….

            That is what we use. The pods. I take them when we travel, too.

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          2. For a while, I was mixing my own: 1 cup of borax powder, 1 cup of washing soda, 1 bar of Fels-Naphtha soap pulverized in the food processor (wash the machine well afterwards!), and a half cup of baking soda (optional). Mix it all together and you have a nice, effective, unscented laundry detergent that didn’t irritate my skin or anything else.

            But then, the grocery store stopped stocking Fels-Naphtha soap and I didn’t want to try “Zote!” or whatever the available replacement laundry soap was, and my landlord wanted only liquid detergent in the washing machine, so I switched to Mrs Meyer’s Clean Day liquid detergent.

            Which is not unscented, but the scent is so mild that you’d hardly notice it’s there.

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              1. an outdoor tank

                For collecting rainwater? Or for handwashing the clothes? Hand washing the clothes in rainwater?

                Sounds like a lot of work, but it might be worth it… ^_^

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              2. My husband has had severe eczema his entire life. When we married at age 19 he was covered in rashes.
                Over the years we have discovered MANY triggers. The first was when an allergist told him NOT to shower more than once a day and NEVER in hot water. He had been running really hot water on his skin several times a day because it would give him a little relief from the itching. Once he was down to one warm water shower a day he really found relief.

                We use Purell Free and Clear laundry soap and that helps too.

                Also he has a dairy allergy.

                We switched to non dairy “milk” and he eliminated his nightly ice cream and that also helped.

                He has bad hay fever too. And these things, eliminating all the carpet over our hardwood floors plus getting an air purifier have all but eliminated his skin issues and hay fever.

                When we met he had never tried nor did he eat any vegetables at all except raw carrots and celery. Over the years he has ever so slowly branched out and I think dietary allergies played some role in his reluctance to eat different foods.

                But his mom also indulged pickiness in eating as well and served the same 10 or so meals his whole life. For instance, he had also never had spaghetti with tomato sauce and to this day has never eaten a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. He’d never eaten a raw herb of any kind because they are green and the only seasonings were salt and pepper and cinnamon.

                But the thing is, I have discovered while working with a Functional Medicine Specialist to deal with my MS, that many things can cause difficulties that you don’t even know about because you are used to eating them.

                If you can find a Functional Medicine Specialist, they will treat the whole person and not just one symptom. I believe they can be lifesavers.

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        2. I’m with you, I despise the smell of Tide. And it’s… really distinctive too. One of my co-workers launders with it. And I can always tell, from several feet away.

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          1. Snowy is the laundry soap, as well as bar soap, recommended for newborn to toddler (or was). Nope, Nope, Nope. Hard Hell No. Tried it first because when I had the bad reaction to Tide on recommendation of medical (we went to Cheer, which is what mom used because dad was allergic to Tide). Then tried Snowy again, when recommended for our newborn, because I am a good mom. Well okay. Didn’t get the stuff off the shelf. The scent was so overwhelming. It is a scent I can tell if someone is using.

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          2. The place where we got our spendy (but really good) Electrolux washer from, really dislikes Tide detergent. I don’t recall the issues they had with it, but we’re pretty much using Kirkland Free & Clear, and until we run out, Oxiclean F&C* detergent for the really grimy stuff. (I have a sufficient supply of old clothing and a tolerance to wearing dirty clothes, so various items are banished to the shop for me to wear until I can’t stand them any more. That will help the Oxiclean situation.)

            (*) There’s some powder available, but all I’m seeing now are other liquid detergents from the same company made with Oxiclean mixed in, but all scented. Nope. Not gonna.

            Years ago, I wore some work-worthy pants and got them really dirty doing mechanicing. Cleaned them with Gunk, but the next time I wore them to work, I regretted the smell all day. (Was offsite for some training, so regular coworkers didn’t get the odor. Lucky them.)

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        1. I mean, obviously you’d need a different color basin for your foot soak and for your washwater in a basin, but you could have a saltwater wash whenever you wanted, no sea required.

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  12. Ringo and Weber had a character in their, “Empire of Man,” series (Yes, I’d like more, too) who was a professional at these campaigns. Eleonora O’Casey commented that if he was involved, before you could say, “It’s for the children,” there would be articles, and studies, and half a dozen NGOs dedicated to the cause, and…
    He also turned out to be a homosexual pedophile, and he ran afoul of Roger and Pahnar. Awww.

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  13. My beloved just suggested Elon Musk was an Arisian. I said, “No, a form of flesh energized by an Arisian. But if he is and Joe Biden is Eddorian, Eddore’s slipping.”

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      2. But if the minions were “effective”, they might decide to replace their super-villain bosses. :twisted:

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          1. evil… I’ll blame autocorrect when in truth it was I going to fast and not proof reading.

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        4. Malificent, in “Sleeping Beauty,” when she discovers her henchcritters have been looking for a baby instead of a teenager: “You’re a disgrace to the forces of evil!”

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          1. Yes that’s a beautiful scene, Eleanor Audley really plays it up. Apparently for a lot of her scenes they dressed her up and then photographed her in 16mm that they then rotoscoped from for the motions for Maleficent (and to get the mouth right). Please ignore the later Maleficent movies they are essentially low grade fan fic with fancy special effects and Ms. Jolie can not hold a candle to Ms Audley.

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    2. Eddore was always slipping. From Children of the Lens, a ‘discussion between the Ploorians and Eddorians.

      The situation was bad. Not irreparable, by any means, but grave. The fault lay 
      with the Eich, and perhaps with Kandron of Onlo. Such stupidity! Such incompetence! 
      Those lower-echelon operators should have had brains enough to have reported the 
      matter to Ploor before the situation got completely out of hand. But they didn’t; hence 
      this mess. None of them, however, expressed a thought that the present situation was 
      already one with which they themselves could not cope; nor suggested that it be
       referred to Eddore before it should become too hot for even the Masters to handle.
       
           “Fools! Imbeciles! We, the Masters, although through no foresight or design of 
      yours, are already here. Know now that you have been and still are yourselves guilty of 
      the same conduct which you are so violently condemning in others.” Neither Eddorians 
      nor Ploorans realized that that deficiency was inherent in the Boskonian Scheme of 
      Things, or that it stemmed from the organization’s very top. “Sheer stupidity! Gross 
      overconfidence! Those are the reasons for our recent reverses!”

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    3. I can neither confirm nor deny that Elon Musk is being activated by Mentor at this time. As for Joe Biden activated by any Eddorian (let alone say Gharlane). An Eddorian would rather activate a Zabriskan Fontema than Biden. At least a Fontema shows some signs of intelligence…

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      1. Always weird to hear “Gharlane of Eddore” used in its original context, since my family was friends with the gent who used that as his online (USENET, mostly) handle for decades, with permission of the author.

        If that gent were alive today, the idea of him puppeting Biden is so mind-bogglingly off that my brain blinks a bit at the image.

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        1. I was only familiar with that Gharlane from his output on various Usenet forums. To some degree Reddit and Discord have kind of filled in for that kind of computer medium.

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            1. I barely remember Gharlane’s output and that only in the most general sense. The Usenet had some advantages over the modern equivalents due to a more limited audience, although it always had its trolls and flaming a**holes lurking. Gharlane was NOT among those and very decent is my memory which is why he was well respected.

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              1. I swear that if he were alive today, he would be collaborating with Larry Correia on epic fiskings.

                And yeah, those trolls and other lurkers made the online memorial services VERY stressful until I discovered the means to block posters.

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        1. Hello a universe I am NOT familiar with (or perhaps I have forgotten?). From whence comes this koogra of which you speak?

          The Fontema is of course from the Lensman Universe (as am I) and they are pretty simple in both meanings of that word. They’re solar powered (Multi sun system, no night) and just sort of roll along. They get stuck if presented with an obstacle, but this works as their planet is essentially a sand covered billiard ball. If they run into another Fontema (quite literally) the two merge and send out 4 offspring at 90 degree angles to each other (to minimize the chance of Fontema inbreeding/incest). The Koogra has a high standard to meet to out stupid a Fontema. The Turnip In Chief However would give them a run for their money and given tales coming out may be less concerned on the inbreeding front (euughh).

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          1. H. Beam Piper’s Federation universe, the background for the Fuzzy stories, and others. The Khoogra were an alien race that just barely squeaked by the tests for sapience. Khoogra counting goes ‘One, Two, Many’ for example. They are incapable of adding 1 + 1 because the concept of addition is too complicated.

            The Federation is distant history in Space Viking.

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            1. OK I’ve read some of H. Beam Pipers stuff log ago, Looks like I ought to go band see what I have in my collection…

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  14. I am sometimes astounded that Justin Trudeau (aka Fidel Jr.) is taking such a stand against the idea of global warming. If the planet warms up, more of Canada is livable and the agricultural output will be much greater. Instead, he hates Canada and Canadians and wants the ordinary people (peasants) to starve. Much like Democrats in America.

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  15. “he shows me an article saying showering with warm water might exacerbate skin conditions.”

    I did get that advice once many years ago from a dermatologist when I was getting persistent rashes behind my knees.

    The solution for me was to use hypoallergenic soap, make my own detergent for a couple years, and dry off really well after showers.

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    1. I presume you’ve also looked at water hardness? Even town water can have VERY high mineral content depending on source, and well water is catch as catch can. Our local draws from deep wells most summers and that has manganese in fair quantities. Tough for fish tank use, and leaves deposits in hardware and hair and make some soaps far less effective.

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      1. Oh, of course. We have hard water here, mostly iron and calcium, I think.

        I was going to mention needing the water to be hot to make up for the hardness of the water, but then I couldn’t remember if that was correct chemistry, so I deleted it.

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          1. Same here. I feel like I should be chewing it half the time. That’s the downside. The upside — which is also part of the reason for the heavily mineralized downside — is that it’s from a deep, slow-recharging aquifer that until about 60 years ago fed artesian wells, so it’s free of any modern/industrial pollutants.

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          2. We’re both volcanic and sea bottom for geography, so our water has both calcium and iron sulfates. A chemist friend found that the only solvents good to get the iron sulfate will also destroy porcelain glaze. Haven’t looked for brown toilets, but it’s tempting…

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      2. My town water it too damned hard. it crusts up the cat waterers (pump through a filter sort) and even hand washed dishes get a scum on them if you don’t dry them twice (well, dry then polish). The water is just cleared of sediment, pH adjusted, and chlorinated after it’s pulled from Lake Michigan/Green Bay (with the mouth of the Menominee river nearby to add its high lime and tannins).

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        1. Veneta, Monroe, etc., along the Territorial corridor, west side of the valley, even Junction City, further in east. Quote is “buy tan towels, or darker, because that is the color they are going to be after washed a time or two, no amount of bleaching helps.” Most have water dispensers and regular jug delivery for drinking water. Doesn’t matter if you are on your own well water filtered or using town water (which is more wells, but filtered, and chlorinated). Eugene and Springfield do not have that problem, as their water comes from the McKenzie Watershed. (Not sure where the project is at, but Veneta will be getting water from EWEB.)

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          1. there are places up here with “Egg Water” Water at Grans old place (My uncle uses it as a “Camp”) is always yellow/brownish. this is a new development. It used to be quite clear, and an all new point and piping hasn’t helped. A mile-ish up the road, my aunt’s water is very nice. Ma and Dad used to make certain they filled the tanks of their 5th Wheel before leaving there.

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        2. Not eczema but rosea. My doctor ordered a prescription to try and clear it up more than the existing prescription (Metronidazole Gel, which isn’t “cheap”, but still < $100) does. Pharmacy called. It is $500, my cost (insurance authorized $0). $500 @ Costco. I am not getting the new prescription. Covering it up with makeup isn’t going to work either. I can’t tolerate makeup (makes me want to claw off the makeup). Two things, I guess the rosea isn’t that bad, and I did not earn it the expected way, dang it. I have little to no alcohol tolerance, so I never bothered to drink in my 20’s through my 40’s. Even now my tolerance is directly related to me being overweight (at that it is < 1 per month). Stupid genetics. We’ll see what the doctor comes back with, probably send me to dermatologist rather than wait.

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  16. Mostly because they want us to go back to pre-industrial hygiene standards

    Much like the claim I’ve seen going around that deodorant was a fake solution to a fake problem because people simply accepted BO as the normal course of affairs back in the day.

    Much, says I, like people accepted smallpox, typhus, and dying in childbirth as the normal course of affairs back in the day.

    Yes, we can deal with people’s BO if we must. I’d much rather prefer not to.

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    2. No they didn’t. That is why people had small containers-of/hankies-infused scent, to smell instead of someone else odor. Or people tried to stand upwind of one another. After awhile supposedly one doesn’t smell oneself or others, I’ve heard. But I really, really, do not want to find out.

      I’ve camped. I can handle about 3 days without a shower. I prefer my daily shower. They will get compliance of not having a daily shower when I am dead. Not before.

      I wish we had a natural gas on demand water heater. Until 15 years ago we didn’t have gas running to the house. We finally had access and got a gas furnace (we’d just replaced the stove and water heater). Until really recently venting for a gas water heater, of any kind was a problem. When our current heater dies (it is due) we’ll see what it takes to put in a gas line to a water heater (with a stub for the stove, for when it dies in 10 – 12 years, or depending on water heater death, maybe combo).

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      1. I’m with you—three days is my absolute limit; I can’t even sleep if I haven’t showered in the last three days, and even two days is difficult.

        When I was a kid, we lived in the middle of nowhere, and during the summer we only had a bath on Saturday nights (Mass was on Sunday). Even then, we had nightly baths when school was in session. So while I don’t know how I handled it, or how my parents handled us not bathing that often, they were well aware that we needed to bathe when we were going to be around other people.

        Once we moved into town and had a house with a shower (and connected to the town’s water supply), we were expected to take a nightly shower.

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        1. There is a period where children can get away without nightly showers/baths. Not once they hit puberty, or slightly before, depending.

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      2. “Or people tried to stand upwind of one another.”

        You think maybe that’s why waltz became so popular? 🤣

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        1. First of all, it’s stupid and wrong. Even when people couldn’t bathe, they did a lot of “cleaning by washcloth,” “cleaning by rubbing the skin,” “cleaning with oil and scrapers,” and so forth.

          Secondly, we do in fact have period recipes for various herbal deodorants, as well as other treatments for body odor.

          The hilarious thing is the Chinese webnovels, written by guys for guys, that rhapsodize about the sexiness of smelling a woman’s “natural fragrance” because she’s sweating.

          Needless to say, the Chinese webnovels written by women for women do not rhapsodize about any such thing, and they often mention a handsome man having a cologne or soap smell. (Or an herbal smell. Or so on.)

          Since a lot of female-oriented webnovels also talk about the desirability of wearing extremely small amounts of a subtle perfume, it is possible that some of the younger authors are mistaking the perfume counter for a “natural fragrance” of female sweat.

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  17. Weather. What we’ve been seeing locally “Hottest summer ever!” Seriously? We judge whether it is hot or not based on whether we can cool down the house overnight/morning. Always have. We don’t have central air. We only had one window/wall air conditioner upstairs for 25 years. Keep one large room over garage cool, rest of the house closed during the day, and house stayed cool, as long as it was cool at night. Over the last almost 10 years, we’ve added floor air conditioners, one upstairs (it is a huge room) and two downstairs main part of the house. Because it has gotten hotter? No. Because someone is home and despite having everything shutdown, just letting the dog in and out during the day, not counting how often even one of us comes and goes, it makes a difference. Another factor, dad & I can’t handle the heat as well (getting older isn’t for sissy’s). But hotter summers? What the heck are they drinking? (Rhetorical, don’t answer that. Unless must.) We haven’t had a single day, even those reaching toward 100F, that we haven’t been able to cool the house down at night (well really morning about 6 AM – 12 PM, is when really cools down). Based on the last 34 summers we’ve lived in this house, the 37 years we’ve been living in the area, and finally the 22 years I spent in the area growing up, this summer is actually on the cool side of normal.

    Oh. The PNW is burning up? In particular Idaho and Montana. Get the app Watch Duty. It shows compiles the alerts directly from the Fire InciWeb, and other official sources. There is a map showing ALL fires, with flames indicating fire size and status. Entire PNW there are less than a handful of large fires. The biggest one in the Idaho panhandle is in an area that can’t be fought. The majority of the rest “Oh, there was a lightening storm go through.” Most are less than an acre. “But it is early in the season?” Blink. Hubby was on fire crew in ’70s (boyfriend back then) and the crew was on the move regularly before mid-June. Even I was on a (very) few local fires (not fire crew but when lightening went through everyone was on call, back in the days where if there was smoke, it was checked out. At 1/4x extra pay if a hint of actual flame, for the entire day, and usually on top of overtime … lets just say it helped pay for college back then.) Willamette area hasn’t had as many storms as there were growing up. Umpqua and southern cascades still get a lot of storms. The recent fires in South Umpqua River drainage? Not surprised at all (where I spent 3 summers with the USFS. Got for even this not local I could feel the storms rolling in before they hit.)

    But the fires are “bigger”. Well yes. Not because it is hotter and dryer. Because of the fuel load. Plus not jumping on some fires immediately. Period. Cause of fuel load is damn if you did, damn if you didn’t, complicated. Not jumping on fires immediately, see fuel load causes. Again, complicated. Fires more devastating? Yes. When you have entire communities wiped out in, devastating. OTOH those communities wouldn’t have been there 40 and more years ago.

    Not making light of wildfires. If there is a fire in your area with even the remote possibility of it heading your way, you have the right to go “Reeeeeee”. The cause is not the earth is heating up.

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    1. Logging takes out the dead trees and dry undergrowth, but Logging Iz Eeevul! Even harvesting already-dead trees is Eeevul! Removal of trees killed by the Mount St. Helens eruption was delayed by ‘green’ activists until most of the wood wasn’t worth the effort of hauling it away.
      ———————————
      ‘Progressives’ believe everybody else is even stupider than they are. This explains a lot.

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      1. Logging takes out the dead trees and dry undergrowth, but Logging Iz Eeevul! Even harvesting already-dead trees.
        ……….

        Plus leaves fire buffer zones. But “Iz Eeevul!”

        Removal of trees killed by the Mount St. Helens eruption was delayed by ‘green’ activists until most of the wood wasn’t worth the effort of hauling it away.
        ……………

        I know. I was still Log Scaling (until Fall ’81), and we were still in Longview. The stuff and volume that came through the Cougar Ramp was “interesting”. We had our Dendrology and log identification books handy (back then had to have a forestry degree, and certified, to be a Log Scaler). When everything comes in white/gray and cooked 6″ deep, identification was “fun”. There was a scramble to pull everything that could be reached until got shutdown again Fall ’81; especially the private land (Weyerhouser, mostly). Not everything pulled out was normally harvested. We saw single log loads of Cottonwood … (Cottonwood would normally be in a unit stream buffer, so not normally cut, let alone hauled out).

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        1. Cottonwood I’m familiar with, so I know why it wouldn’t be a valuable wood to harvest.
          Curious about ‘unit stream buffer’, and Googling only turns up C programming resources, including the StackOverflow question “When should a logger flush?”, which really seems like the setup to a joke.

          One of our pastures had a massive cottonwood in it. Not worth harvesting, and too big to clear, so left as shade for the cattle. When it died, we pushed a pile of dead brush around it, let it dry, and lit the pile.
          We stuck around to make sure it didn’t get out of hand, About an hour later, I hear a whistle, that builds to a roar. That tree trunk was fourteen feet around, and hollow, with a broken top maybe 25 feet up. We’d accidentally built a venturi smokestack, and it was shooting up jet of flame taller than what remained of the tree!

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          1. Stream buffers and logging. Required to not clear vegetation, including trees, X feet from running streams and year round creeks, within logging units, even on private land. Not surprising not showing up in google searches. FYI, Oregon State law. Might be Federal too but limited to navigable waterways. But would not surprise me if other states don’t have same.

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            1. I got a postcard from the state noting that certain waterways are now redefined as subject to the stream buffers. The local river has always been such, and apparently a lot of willows grew on the banks. We have some cottonwood, frequently too near the power line, so I try to trim it back as necessary. (We’re not on the river, but it’s close enough.)

              With respect to national fire, the Nat’l Interagency fire center* has good data. This includes big fire numbers and acreage. The year-to-date stats for the previous 10 years have us in 8th place for number of fires (somewhat below the average number) and 10th place for acreage, running about 30% of the 10 year average. I don’t have small fire data; the local fire center might collect the statistics, but they’re not readily available.

              In short, while it’s smoky (looks at Bedrock fire near Eugene), it’s not bad for fires. So far. The local fire hit a bit over 2100 acres, but hasn’t grown. I drove by the fire camp yesterday and it’s in the process of being struck.

              And yeah, fuel load is horrible. That local fire is in terrain that would be spooky even if the brush were well cleared. It isn’t (well, wasn’t), and the entire region is prone to getting ladder fuels.

              (*) Website: https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/nfn

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              1. For me the entire fire and forest ecology is something I follow. I mean given the forestry degree, very limited old experience, our tendency to prefer wilderness outings, and all. Not that I have any insider information, current working experience, or anything. Although we did spend 30+ years following the whole “Act of God” (severe timber fire conditions) shutdowns. Because we were ready to bolt for “summer vacation” the minute layoffs happened, otherwise summer vacations weren’t possible.

                Then there is the irritation on the whole wildfire rhetoric when they happen. Yes, the 2020 river corridor (and prior wildfires) that wiped out entire communities, were horrible (regardless of the cause from power lines, arson, or lightening). But the screeching about not getting the fire put out faster? OMG. Are the serious? (Yes. Unfortunately.) Have they been up and down those western river corridors? (No. Obviously.) Then pile on that I know even more recent PNW fire history. Oxbow Fire. Tillmook Fire. To name a couple of 20th century ones. Fact there is more timberland now than when the European ethic/etc. pioneers migrated from the east coast.

                Honestly. We seriously looked at building off of Dearhorn Road east of Springfield. Looked at two different acre lots, one in the area around the golf coarse, near the river, another up the hill. Looked around not only at the communities, but where the communities were, and said “um, no”. It’d been one thing if properties were large enough to do our own fire mitigation and have it mean anything. Neither were. Not the only consideration, but a strongly weighted one.

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    2. The PNW is burning up? In particular Idaho and Montana.

      To be fair, the big fires of 5 or so years ago would have cleared out a fair amount of the fuel load, so I don’t think I would expect big fires for another 5 or so years.

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      1. Trust me. There are plenty of areas where the fires have not burned through with high fuel loads. Now how many of those areas are close enough to roads for climate change arsonists, is a different problem (for them). Otherwise, 5 years is about right. Maybe a little longer where it was hot enough that even now 3 years later the under brush, not even the Scotch Broom, has taken hold. And under brush of Scotch Broom with dead down and standing timber? OMG! It will be Bad.

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        1. I keep suggesting that my parents get one of the local university forestry clubs to come in and clear out their dead trees (they’ve got 10 acres on the side of a mountain, mostly white pine, probably a third of it dead, if the sampling near their house is any indication.)

          Stepdad doesn’t like the idea, and I’m not sure if he’s suspicious about the students and what they might report or just wants an excuses to run his mini-excavator all over the forest.

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          1. Forestry Club kept the fringes of McDonald Forest clear of dying Oak and Maple by cutting and selling firewood. Made good money at it too even for the mid-’70s. Enough that only a minimum amount was kept with the university club accounting system. Rest was kept in regular club banking account, Club made the mistake (got to hear all the ranting) of actually filing a party report with the UPTB. They inquired how it was being paid for. Response, well it is at the Forestry Club house at McDonald Forest, thus no rent. Rest, club has the money. Note, this was just one of the parties that got thrown every year. Live Band and the works. Just the first time anyone filed for it. Last time too.

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      2. I’m getting social media memories of the Carr Fire of five years ago. Not looking forward to the November memories of the Camp Fire, the one that took out Paradise. 2018 was horrifying for deadly fires.

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        1. We had to leave the house during both the Camp and Tubbs Fires. Ashes blew close enough that it burned down a trailer park and strip mall a mile away from the house. When we came back, we got the high-quality HEPA filter and a specific bag for our shop vac to get all the ashes out of the gutters and anywhere we could find them.

          Some of the “ashes” were nearly complete pieces of paper from manuals and documentation.

          In one of the fires, we had to move into a family friend’s two bed spare duplex and that was an experience.

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        2. Late MIL used to live in Paradise. She made it through a bad fire some years before, but after she died, the neighbors bought the place (intended for one of their parents). The Camp fire took out most of the houses on that block, including the one my MIL lived in. The people who bought it, their house survived, as did another one up the block, and a third at the end. Don’t know about the last house, but the other two survivors had concrete block walls to 3′ above ground level. They lost the steps to their back door, but other than singing, no other fire problems. (My BIL’s mother lived elsewhere in Paradise. She got out, but her house was destroyed. She sold the land to a neighbor and moved near SIL/BILs house.)

          Protip: wooden decks aren’t a good idea in fire country.

          We’re still twitchy about the 2021 Bootleg fire in Oregon. 400,000 acres worth of fire 10 miles from the house grabs your attention. We were never at a serious risk of losing the place, but seeing a pyrocumulus cloud as the first sign of a fire is unnerving. That was my first experience with PC clouds, but we saw them for days as the fire ran eastward. (At least one hit the jackpot as a pyrocumulonimbus cloud. When it collapsed, things got nasty.)

          (OTOH, after Bootleg, the Dixie fire in California did a hold my beer moment. 1 million acres, and like Camp, PG&E was in the middle of it.)

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          1. We’re still twitchy about the 2021 Bootleg fire in Oregon. 400,000 acres worth of fire 10 miles from the house grabs your attention.
            ……

            Given you are technically in the Oregon high desert prairie, with wildfire that close, I’d have been twitchy too. Animals contained if not kenneled (4, soon 5, of them cats), everything else packed and ready to bolt. (Reminds me, need another hard kennel.)

            Heck. The 2020 Holiday Fire got our attention and we were a mere air 15 miles from mandatory evacuation, but a good 45 road miles from the actual fire line (fire was moving so fast they were evacuating 20 miles out). Even tho we were 1/3 the way across the valley west, and across the Willamette, having warm ash falling in your neighborhood, gets your attention. No hot ember ashes, I do know the difference, and I was watching. Our neighborhood, isn’t *likely to ignite even with hot ashes, not even the not maintained (not watered, rarely mowed) smaller neighborhood park lots. But still, gets one attention. (That and the whole unplanned route detour to get home.)

            (*) Not likely <> mean “no chance”.

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            1. Back in 2000, we were doing a weekly drive from Spokane to Eugene and back, moving stuff. (Neither of us felt comfortable driving a panel truck down the Columbia River Gorge. Calculation would be different now.) Drive down one day, spend the next day at my in-laws, then get up early and drive back in time for my late evening shift.

              One of those days that we spent at home, we were told it was a good thing we were there, as I-84 was closed “due to smoke.” Drove up the next day and no, it hadn’t been smoke. It had been fire. Miles and miles of fire.

              Did I mention my job was with a newsradio station? I looked up the AP wire about it. 60,000 acres, pretty much in one day. Empty grasslands, high enough winds that it jumped the Columbia.

              You never really heard about it, because this was virtually uninhabited area, not even farms. Not like the Eagle Creek fire, started by an idiot with fireworks. (Said idiot, a minor, has an immense amount of restitution to pay, but good behavior would cancel the remainder after a decade or so. Hope he learned his lesson hard.)

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              1. Empty grasslands, high enough winds that it jumped the Columbia.
                ………………

                There is a reason why there are frequent “Use # (3 digit) to report wildfire” signs along the Columbia I-80 corridor.

                The 2003 Big Lake Fire (?) that shutdown Hwy 126 at the pass. Not the Columbia River width, but definitely wider than any fire line cleared by dozers, let alone hand built, latter of which majority of the lines were. But winds carried fire over the highway (3 lanes + very wide shoulders because were used as safety pull offs for multiple semis). So, yea. Standard Columbia Gorge winds bad enough. Fire driving winds. OMG Bad. Pictures of Fire Hurricanes/Tornadoes are bad enough. I wouldn’t want to be the one there taking the pictures.

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                2. “Columbia I-80 corridor”

                  When did they switch that designation over to I-84? I’ve noticed “I-80” or “I-80 North” come up in a few older media properties, but they eventually decided that was a bad idea.

                  Of course, nothing is stupider than the fact that they decided the connector highway between I-80 (N) and I-90 should be I-82, despite the fact that it was so far north, so now we have I-84, then I-82, then I-90 in complete defiance of any form of sense.

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                  1. My bad. It is I-84 (I can never remember.) It is I-84/I-80 (plus 20/126/22, etc) across most of Idaho, until it all splits off again. We rarely take the gorge east. Normally: 126 -> 20 to Ontario Oregon, then pick up I-80 Idaho til we split off to I-80 N to I-15 east to W. Yellowstone. Don’t remember what it is off I-80 for Tetons to the highway to Teton Pass.

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                    1. Just checked; they’ve removed the I-80 designation from the Idaho routes too.

                      Seriously, though, you’re not forgetting; they actually had those routes as “I-80 N” for several decades before they realized that clarity would help. It’s all I-84 (plus various state routes) now. (There’s a really fun sign somewhere near Berkeley CA that has highways going north, west, AND east. Gotta love the combos.)

                      We did the 126—>20 route across Oregon a couple of times. The interstate is faster, but that saved an entire tank of gas.

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                    2. Heck we take Hwy 126 just to avoid Portland, unless we are headed north (like this last spring).

                      Funny thing happened to hubby this last winter. Winter trip was to St George Utah. They took Hwy 58 across. But coming home the Oregon Passes were closed/opened/closed drama. (Drama at the time was reported in accordingtoHoyt posts.) So, the non-flying travelers, took the “long route” via the freeways and I-84 Columbia Gorge. “Faster” you say. Definitely. Hubby driving one of our Santa Fe’s, other driver had a 4×4 newer pickup (brand?). So they pull into Ontario Oregon for gas. Hubby calls to see what road report changed enough to see if they maybe can shortcut across Oregon. Kind of. Maybe. Essentially iffy with 4×4 or chains, really iffy without either. Santa Fe is all wheel drive, and hubby didn’t pickup chains before he left. Hubby chooses to come home, reluctantly, chose to come home the long way (via gorge and Portland). The other driver chose otherwise. Hubby and the people with him were home over 3 hours before the others. Not because I-84 was faster the entire way, not with ice and snow (he did have to go slower than normal, at least until just before he hit Hwy 205 in Portland). Just not as much ice and snow. While the other driver never had to chain up the 4×4, the speed was a lot slower than the roads are normally driven, especially the final sections between Sisters and McKenzie Ranger Station, where the snow tends to disappear, usually.

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              2. We had a couple of drunk idiots who started a fire on Bastille day several years ago. It took out 30+ homes and 2000 acres. Seems they disappeared and nobody knows nuthin’. Clever how that happens. Pour encourager les autres combined with 3S for the win. It’s been quiet for man-caused in our immediate area. 10 miles further south, not so much, but the people were identified by LEO, though TPTB decided to let them stay loose. No idea if they’ve left town, or if they’re still breathing. (Something about cooking meth outside an illegal pot grow. “The illegal grow wasn’t the cause”, sayeth the officials. OK, sir.)

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          2. The Dixie Fire got so close to taking out one of the council camps that the fire line is cut into the hillside on the camp-specific road. Note that firefighters work extra hard to save summer camps when they can. They know the value.

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            1. Oregon Trail Camp Melakwa got singed in the Scott Fire (?) (Fall 20??). Because of luck. No way were wildland fire fighters going to be sent in there to save the camp. OTOH council has taken advantage of the fire to shout “this is why we have the camp fire safety protocols!” Milakwa has one USFS road in/out. Safety protocols are: Must have enough vehicles to evacuate all troop members at campsite. Vehicles are backed in parking. Adult drivers must have vehicle keys on them at all times. No open toe shoes around entire camp except at water front. If USFS road is blocked everyone will be hiking south to Scott Lake and Hwy 242. As it turns out that fire closed hwy 242, and not the USFS road. But it came close to closing both. Haven’t seen the latter addressed. (Fire occurred after we were out of scouts. So, not part of internal discussions. Yes, we would have inserted our ears, somehow.)

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    3. If you muck up the temperature record (as they did back in 2011-12), change where the thermometers are, truncate the “temperature record” so that it only goes back to the relative cool period of the 1970s, and so on, you too can get “the earth has a fever!”

      Paging Dr. Johnny Fever, will Dr. Johnny Fever please pick up the nearest white phone for a message? …

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      3. I’ve heard of a recent change from air temperatures to ground contact temps. Haven’t seen anything outside of a quick blurb, so no details forthcoming. (WUWT might have more, but I’ve been busy.)

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    4. We usually get cool nights, so if I can get the heat out of the house in the early morning, it won’t get hotter than 78 or so in the bedroom at night. I can sleep in that (discovered that 76Fis a good nighttime setting for the thermostat at the hotel when I was in Medford a couple of weeks ago. :) ) but I want it cool in the morning.

      All this goes to hell when it’s too smoky, and for winter, it would be nice to have spot heat in the master and back bedrooms (the latter is my office/library/etc). We’re thinking of putting in a mini-split with two heads. The house used to have an electric stove, so we’ll have plenty of power for the compressor.

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  18. Why is anyone surprised is what gets me. Any of my mutual friends who haunt this blog know what I’ve been saying for a long time. Some mother fuckers just crave the slave chain. Generally because they don’t want to take responsibility for their own fuck ups and decisions.

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        1. Harry Voyager, or Hirsute Pilgrim, your comment reminds me of an ancient Bobby Darin sing, “Fish Quiche I Was Taking a Bath”…

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  20. As always, the original post is superb- and as always, utterly on point. But the COMMENTS today are the absolute best I have ever seen in one long stream- GOLD! Wisdom, wit, sarcasm, practicality, philosophy, sci-fi…. amazing!!! And about the showers, hot, cold, lukewarm- I can’t HELP what my dark mind tells me to think and I keep having visions of Joe Pervo Biden and his pre-teen daughter in the shower together, while he sings that old Chuck Berry song, “My Ding-a-ling” And on a similarly perverse note, one blog I read over the weekend said that Playboy (I had no idea it still existed!) was going to offer big bucks to Greta Thunberg to pose for them!!! I am struggling to not begin laughing like a madman in a padded cell, from the overload of insanity cascading down in us daily!

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      2. “I always send mine out.”

        Honest to goodness, I actually remembered that as a Robert Culp line from “I Spy”; IMDB shows it was 1966’s episode “It’s all done with mirrors”.

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  21. Congrescritter Goldman : “Preposterous premise” to say Joe Biden shouldn’t be talking w/ Hunter’s business associates”

    What are those stages again? It didn’t happen, It didn’t happen, but it’s a good thing, why are you making such a big deal of this? A it’ll be Republican’ Pounce next.

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  22. Congrescritter Goldman : “Preposterous premise” to say Joe Biden shouldn’t be talking w/ Hunter’s business associates”

    What are those stages again? It didn’t happen, It didn’t happen, but it’s a good thing, why are you making such a big deal of this? A it’ll be Republican’ Pounce next.

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    1. And what happens to the news media’s credibility (what little they have left) when Biden goes down?

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    2. It’s always “Republicans pounce.”. It’s been that for a while now, with a simultaneous angle about a father’s love for his wayward son.

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  23. I have argued that it is not that the lefties are obedient, they aren’t, and they are not tuned in, because most of the day-to-day ones are in their own world and hate being reminded of what it actually is like. I don’t like NPC though I will refer to NPC like behavior. I also hate the term “Mid-Wit” since it doesn’t explain anything other than “this is the way they are and it is impossible to understand why, other than they are incapable”

    I see it as a class of people who have learned or been taught to put their decision making and moral evaluation in the hands of others. It is like a database user who is working the system by rote, without understanding why the process does what it does, and without knowing what the result is supposed to look like or even figuring out what it is for, then every entry is scary because the user dread not getting it right, entering it wrong, or using the wrong sequence or frame to enter the information. Since there is no understanding of what the result should look like or be used for, there is no way to judge if it is done right until the 90 day reports come out and the Lead Worker wants to have a sit-down for a review.
    Without any basis for morally judging actions, functionally judging actions, or understanding what the legality is, it turns out to be far easier to let someone else deal with the why and what, and just do as told, until told to do something else

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  25. And their attempt to make us be unwashed for our own good is going to fall even flatter. Most of us are already pissed off at toilets that don’t flush and machines that don’t wash.

    A lot of it got burnt out with the push on how showering daily, using deodorant, and basically anything but smelling like day six of comicon was Horribly American and Not Normal At All.
    (…other than Japan, they might sometimes add)

    Also, the idea of personal space.

    Combined, they mean “a lot of Americans who ahve actually traveled over seas and it wasn’t a fancy organized guided tour REALLY LIKE BEING CLEAN and appreciate it in their fellow Americans.”

    Should point out, questioning is dangerous.

    Had a cousin– who is obnoxious, and an ass, and where I get a lot of my “College Libertarian” stories from– who was applying both the “do a highly empathetic discussion” card and the trump card (….decade plus ago, didn’t mean that…) of “but if conservatives hate government, how can they like the military?”

    He was not prepared for an in depth response that explained it had to do with the proper job of government and “close enough” agreements on translation of terms, and I think I worked in that one Greek philosopher ass whose party trick was getting folks to say “K, sure, why not” on a mostly OK description, and then he’d equivocate it into something utterly different. (and proceed to ignore the ‘hold up, for definition X, sure; for definition Y, no’ type discussion…at least in some tellings, I haven’t read the original and I have used non-serious equivocation gotchas as a teaching tool myself to try to get folks to think about what htey mean, precisely)

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  26. Almost all of these appeals are based on massive amounts of emotional loading, carefully timed teasers that make you want to follow up to finish up the dopamine hit, and some very tricky weasel words to say what is going on…if you know the rest of the story.

    Think “sad dogs in the snow” and you have a good idea of what’s going on. It’s all about the marketing tools, to get you to stop thinking and start responding emotionally.

    Also (wish I could find the reference) is that they’ve changed the rules on how they’re measuring temperatures these days and it’s showing up as “hotter” because they’re doing it in places where you’ll have “heat island” effects due to pavement and such that are artificially throwing the numbers off.

    (And, nobody is logging? The few reports of people discovered setting fires in places have been squashed? So you have all of this fuel that is just perfect for massive superfires that they can now get areas recategorized as “fire hazards” (which they wouldn’t be if they did upkeep like…oh, cleaning out dead trees and fallen branches…) and they now have instant parks that the environmentalists don’t even have to pay for and people have to move back to more…urban areas…)

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    1. Yeah, the Sad Dogs in the Snow (now the Sweltering Dogs in the Heat) ads from ASPCA are almost enough to get me to cough up – until I remember that they are also against hunting and farming . . .

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  27. I’m a small vehicle kind of guy. I like small cars and small trucks. Used to be, the Festiva offset the mpg of the Crown Vic. CAFE. Now, it is changed, it isn’t really CAFE, it is “This Size vehicle must get this MPG” and well a standard cab, short bed mini-truck can’t effing get 45+mpg and be useful. So you get Rangers and Frontiers with 4 doors and a stupid bed, because cab size impacts things too for some formulaic reason, that is damned near the size of on old Chevy C10 Stepside Short bed, because they can make the “CAFE” mpg.
    I really like the Kei trucks. I’ve seen a few leftoids pointing out “Hey, Japan uses these just fine. Why do we need a HUGE F-150 4 door and not much more bed capacity??!? (not that the kei carrys a whole lot, they sort of ignore that part)
    Well, you see, if Honda or Toyota/Daewoo, etc wanted to bring their Keis here, they’d have to get over 50MPG or pay a per MPG under fine. Per vehicle sold. You can always count on them to eff things up, and often it’s a hidden intentional effing up.

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      1. That has been popping up in both my YT feeds. I wasn’t aware of the “footprint” formula, especially the width bit, until I saw that, I just knew it was a size thing.

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    2. I must say I am liking my F-250 crew cab more and more as the years roll by. It’s Big by Large for sure, and as a general rule I don’t -need- the 8ft bed every single day. But, I need it often enough.

      There’s nothing like closing your tailgate on a stack of 4×8 sheets to make you glad you got the Big One. Also, I do like it for winter. Plow the driveway? Only if the drifts are deeper than two feet.

      But. If I ran a business, one of those little tiny Subaru Sambar things would be the bomb for city/town delivery, most of the year. 600cc motorcycle engine, suuuuper cheap on gas. So, naturally, they are forbidden from import by safety/eco regulations.

      Dear Lefties, in case you are wondering why we relentlessly mock you and hold you in vast disrespect, go and look up the Subaru Sambar. Then reflect on the wisdom and merit of government regulations which ban it.

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      1. Heh, they sell them in 4×4 with lockers and as accessories, plows, blowers, and salt spreaders for the beds. I was looking at one in Alabama (a Honda version) that was 4×4 they were asking $5000 for. Licensable for the road. They have “off road use only” versions all over the place. I want one for road use, so they tend to have a bit of a jump in price. Just saw one 2000 Daihatsu 2 wheel drive (I think) with Left Hand drive a bit beat up for $2000.

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    4. We bought a 16′ travel trailer when the tent trailer packed it in. The Honda Ridgeline can tow the travel trailer (barely), but it’s the only time I wish I had an F150. OTOH, we bought it as emergency housing and/or bugout shelter, with a low likelihood of using it for bugout.

      Gas mileage goes from 22-23 to 15MPG. With a 16 gallon tank and Western distances, it’s not going to be used on many (if any) road trips.

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      1. Gas mileage goes from 22-23 to 15MPG.
        …………..

        Blink. Both the Toyota Tacoma and Chevy 1500, would do that on I-5 or Hwy 97. But in Idaho, or some of the passes we’ve been over, we’ve seen as bad as 5 – 8 MPG (averages out on the downhill side, but the breaks take a hit, even downshifted, and utilizing trailer breaks). (Idaho freeways are uphill and against the wind regardless of which compass direction one is traveling. I swear. And not traveling at the posted 80MPH but the slower posted trucker hauler speeds.) OTOH both had larger than 16 gallon tanks.

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        1. FWIW, the 15 MPG was driving between $TINY_TOWN and Flyover Falls. That trip is flattish, with a peak some 500′ higher than where we live (and it’s only 150′ lower in Flyover Falls). The Honda isn’t well suited for the load, period. Tent trailers weren’t available when we bought the 16 footer, though the intended use is for here, as a spare bedroom. OTOH, tent trailers and cold weather usage aren’t a happy combination. I’m on the inside because of CPAP, and the outside position can be really cold.

          We’re in the process of redoing the master bedroom. Fresh paint after 19 years, carpetectomy and vinyl planks for the floor. The travel trailer ended up as a storage room (along with every spare bedroom and $SPOUSE’s shop), with the bed in the living room. Kind of like a very expensive studio apartment. I’m told the project will finish VERY SOON. Carpet removal today, I think.

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    1. After midnight today, it’s supposed to be illegal to sell incandescent light bulbs of any kind, for any reason. To Save the Planet. I ordered spares for two lamps last week, when I was reminded of the looming ban. Idioten.

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      1. But — you can’t put LEDs in the oven. They’d melt! There are a number of applications that only work, or work much better, with incandescent light bulbs.

        Most people will replace incandescent bulbs with LEDs. They’re more reliable, more efficient, and there are more types available for different applications. A lot of people will do it just To Save The Planet.

        But that’s not enough for the Eco-Nazis. EVERYBODY MUST COMPLY! ALLES IN ORDNUNG!! Those last 1% or 2% of incandescent-using troglodyte holdouts ARE AN OFFENSE AGAINST GAIA!! They must be stopped at any cost!

        When a problem is 95% solved, and getting better on its own, it’s time to declare victory and move on. They just can’t.
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        Only idiots believe they know how other people should live their lives. The stupider they are, the more blindly they believe it.

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      2. Take traffic lights. I’ve seen lots and lots of traffic lights with the red and green lights retrofitted with LEDs, but not the yellow lights. Because the yellow light is only on about 2% of the time and it’s just not worth the trouble to save that little energy.

        At least, not for normal, rational people.

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          2. A couple jobs ago, I worked for a traffic lights distributor. We were just discontinuing our incandescent stock circa 2012. (Trivia: some incandescent greens were actually a blue glass in front of a yellow light). A 12″ incandescent, typical size for a big intersection, runs about 70W when it’s on, and burns ~8000 hours, so you could be changing them every couple years. The equivalent LED is 7W, and ours shipped with a 15 year warranty. Some of that was due to higher upfront cost, at least at first.
            There were some outfits that would lease them to cities/DOTs on an energy share program.

            When I left in 2019, it was rare to see incandescent for anything new or replacement. Contractors had experience that they’d save on electric and replacement trips out with the truck. We did have to get some 10W heater/thermostat combos for Fargo – same thing they use in dome surveillance cameras. Also redid the shroud with air scoops to venturi snow out. The other thing I remember is that the lower current LEDs would sometimes not draw enough, and set off older safety monitors.

            I don’t remember any specific gov’t money behind swapping to LED, just capitalism (ish). You’re mostly selling to governments, contractors on government projects, and/or with federal highway funds. There were grants for those talking crosswalk pushbuttons through ADA, and EPA (I think?) grants if you could demonstrate reduced idle times at a light

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  29. In my less lucid moments, I wonder if the behavior of the Left is caused by a brain parasite. Something like Heinlein’s slugs but much less easily detectable.

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      2. Marxism is more like cultural Syphilis. It spreads easily in the early stages with mild to moderate symptoms. If left untreated does horrific things to the country when it starts to hit 3rd stage about 20 years out and is ultimately fatal at 30-70 years after contracted.

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    2. I postulated in a story that it could be classed as a weapon. An information attack meant to destroy an enemy’s infrastructure.

      Which is clearly a fantasy, because it requires that at least some of them have a clue what they’re doing. There’s no evidence of that.

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  31. Try ivermectin horse dewormer paste, it will kill the eczema. Protocol: 1 pencil eraser (2H pencil with the pink eraser) sized piece, 2x a day on an empty stomach.. 1 gallon of lemon water daily. Cut out sugars, alcohol, breads, cakes, and limit carb intake to 25 grams daily. Expect herxing, but if you plow through for a minimum of 6 months or so your eczema will be healed.

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  33. Sara said: “Be not afraid. All they have is their control of the message. It’s a veritable coordinated storm of crap.”

    Have you seen the numbers for network/cable news viewership? The more their tighten their grip, the more systems slip though their fingers. Disney is losing billions on streaming. Not millions, billions.

    Kind of like how 1.5K-5K copies is “normal” for a dead-tree mid-lister now. (Meaning they work for free of course, but isn’t writing a hobby for the well-off?) 5K is a Best Seller!!! in Canaduh.

    I think Tucker Carlson’s YouTubes are getting more viewers than all of cable news. (Not a Carlson fan, I’m just sayin’.) That’s a pretty big deal.

    Pretty much all the people not actively and permanently wedded to the Left are about done with it, that’s what those numbers are telling me. The “Undecided” already decided, they’re just being quiet about it.

    One gets the feeling of an engine running with no oil in it, one of those “let’s blow this up” dyno videos. It’s screaming at redline, still holding, but you can see the engine block is glowing red in the middle and the exhaust is bright orange, heading for yellow. Won’t be long before it goes BANG!!! and the connecting rods make several new breather ports in the block. Kapow!

    [munch, munch] This is pretty good popcorn. >:D

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    1. I might have mentioned it here, but it relates to your comment. A video I watched on YouTube recently discussed what a failure the new High Republic setting for Star Wars has been. It was mentioned that the first book in the new setting – and only the first book – sold over 100,000 copies. Only six Star Wars novels after the sale to Disney have sold more than 100,000 copies, and three are by Timothy Zahn. One was the Chuck Wendig novel that opened the post-Disney acquisition era. I don’t recall what the last one was.

      Subsequent High Republic novels sales have fallen dramatically. Currently, a novel in that setting is doing well if it sells several thousand.

      Meanwhile, Zahn’s original Thrawn trilogy has sold millions of copies since it was released in the early ’90s. And Zahn’s non-Star Wars novels easily outsell most anything with the Star Wars logo (that isn’t written by him, of course).

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    2. “Haunted Mansion,” which the WSJ said was not very good but not very woke, either, had a $24 million opening weekend. For Disney, that socks like a Hoover.

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      1. Saw somebody who mentioned they went, it was fun, but what jumped out at them was there was not one, single, white people joke. None!

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        1. Isn’t the casting “Haunted Huxtables” though, same as last time? I just read a review that said the extremely bad 2003 Eddie Murphy version, although extremely bad, was better.

          No white people jokes? I kind of like those, sometimes.

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  34. Something that relates to a brief discussion here in the car moments a week or two ago. Someone on Twitter told Larry Correia that Mormons (aka members of The Church of Jesus Christ) are pacifists.

    Beahahaha!

    Given it’s Larry that we’re talking about, the long response post on Facebook is surprisingly profanity-free. The comments on that post are great, as well.

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      1. Um…. Is this one of those “I found out that A Study in Scarlet includes a dubious take on LDS history, so I assumed the opposite must be true and nobody in Utah has guns”?

        Wow, all the same.

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        1. Probably more of a, “They’re so nice that they must be pacifists,” sort of thinking. There was some discussion of the ignorant thinking along similar lines when the topic of food storage came up a few weeks ago (“Oh, if everything collapses, I’ll just get my gun and pillage my Mormon neighbor!” kinds of thinking).

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  35. Jesse Waters just pointed out (he’s been put in Tucker Carlson’s time slot. Rather watch Tucker, but…) that every hugely-hyped indictment against Donald Trump was made the day after a major revelation about Biden’s corruption.

    Curious coincidence, innit? :-o

    And of course all the media trained seals immediately started barking “Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!”
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    Not everybody should go to college. Some folks, you send ’em to college and you just wind up with an educated idiot.

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