Happy Meme-DAy!

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*I’m finally feeling more or less human. Not well-well, but way, way better. Let’s just have some memes, shall we?*

AND BTW, NO LIE DETECTED:

AND NOW LEAVING BEHIND THE FILTHY POLITICAL STUFF, AND FOR MORE FUN STUFF. THOUGH THE FIRST IS STILL CLOWN WORLD.

162 thoughts on “Happy Meme-DAy!”

  3. Not being a comic book writer yet, I can’t really do much about the ‘Superman vs. CIA’ idea. But for anyone who’s interested, I might eventually have something for the ‘Chosen Grandmother’ plot…

    1. > “I might eventually have something for the ‘Chosen Grandmother’ plot…”

      Oh dear. What door did I open by showing you that? 😛

        1. Jane Lindsjold (?) Wrote two books, “Library of the Sapphire Wind,” and, “Aurora Borealis Bridge,” featuring three ladies. One unmarried lady in her late 50s, one divorcee with many grandchildren in the 60s and one widow who is friendly but distant with her family in her 70s. They are drawn into another world to help three young people with their problems and things go from there.
          I didn’t much like the “boss battle,” and for that matter the great conflict in the background doesn’t make much sense, but it is, indeed, a story about chosen grandmothers

          1. Neat! Mine at the moment is an elderly matriarch from a small village in the middle of Fantasy-Kansas. She’s carried the essence of the shattered goddess Song for most of her life, but she’s so far from anywhere that might be relevant that everyone just considers her a little mad and very helpful.

            (When you can hear the theme music of the universe, you are inevitably going to be thought very strange. But it’s also useful when trying to suss out whether a stranger is trustworthy or not… not to mention how much animals and babies like her singing.)

            1. And I imagine any final battle involving elderly women might not be the knock-down-drag-out punchfest or sword fight of most fantasy novels… Magic might work, but nothing particularly physical.

              1. Nod, the old grandmother might be a retired Wizard who thought she had retired but certain assholes attacked her because they were afraid that she’d get involved in the opposition to their Evil Master’s Plans thus ENSURING that she gets involved.

                But then she might be a retired War-Leader who acts as the Commanding General of the Opposition Forces.

                Note, the “Chosen Grandmother” can be strongly related to the Retired Badass Trope.

                https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RetiredBadass

                2. Chosen granny

                  Sneaks up on distracted boss and brains him with +5 cast iron skillet family avenger. “Skill that…”

                  Or

                  Facing a hopless wizards duel, says “I just have this one old cantrip…” pulls a 1911 out of the handbag and double taps him.

                  BABAM!

                  “(Gasp…) a gun? A .. mundane.. gun. (Sags to knees) …But that’s not magic.. its not … by the code…”

                  “nope.” BAM! (Between the eyes … thud). “Not code at all.” (Reloads, puts back in purse)

                  1. Harry Potter How It Should Have Ended. Because Severus Snape was a halfblood, should have been perfectly aware of muggle snake antivenins (or been able to concoct one himself), and would definitely know the value of “I cast GLOCK!” in a magic duel. Particularly against one the most evil wizard still living. (Dolores Umbridge is, in fact, a witch, and therefore does not count.)

                    2. The snake didn’t kill Snape with poison. It was a large constrictor whose continuous large body strike and bite killed Snape. But yes, Snape being half blood should have known about firearms. Although by every indication he was raised in the wizard world, so maybe not.

                    3. This is one of the giant plot holes inconsistencies in the whole Potterverse: the line between the wizarding and muggle world flow and bend and appear and disappear without any logic at all. If every student gets on the Hogwarts Express from Platform 9 3/4 at King’s Cross Station, then every student and their parents must be able to navigate transportation to the station and make their way through the entirely mundane train station amidst millions of muggles. And yet the vast majority of wizarding world denizens display zero knowledge or understanding of the muggle world and either totally ignore it or treat it as an area of amusing esoterica.

                      I maintain that Rowling wrote a lot of “cutesy” touches into the first book and then found herself trapped by them once it had massive success and she had to actually produce the sequels.

                    4. It’s highly inconsistent.

                      Why did the Wizarding World go into hiding anyway? Surely not so that the novels could plausibly appear to be in our world.

                    5. Why did the Wizarding World go into hiding anyway?
                      ……

                      Hinted at that muggles at one time did know of the wizards. That there was a massive negative reaction that wizards lost. Magic overcomes arrows and swords. But magic does not overcome pitchforks, mobs, and black powder. Hinted that quantity has a quality all its own. So magic went underground hid itself, along with magical creatures like dragons, unicorns, etc. Summary being either wizards and magic stay hidden or wizard minority have to subjugate muggles to be out in the open.

                    7. Hermione did homework about how wizards were not in danger from witch hunts. Might have been a lie, but there’s no inbook evidence of that

                    8. how wizards were not in danger from witch hunts
                      …….

                      Which would be true during the time that the books take place and probably always was. But wizard perception is given that based on Witch Trials of history mob of muggles were dangerous. Perception appeared to be driving the wizard view. Regardless an unplugged plot hole inconstancy.

                    9. yet the vast majority of wizarding world denizens display zero knowledge or understanding of the muggle world and either totally ignore it or treat it as an area of amusing esoterica.
                      …..

                      The wizard world think they are above muggles. Living apart. Even those like the Weasley’s who say they aren’t. But yes, agree. For a hidden world they sure don’t know enough about the world they are supposedly hiding from.

                      Rowling wrote a lot of “cutesy” touches into the first book and then found herself trapped by them once it had massive success and she had to actually produce the sequels.
                      ……….

                      More like the second book, I think. It isn’t until then we, readers, learn how clueless the wizard world is about the muggle world. The first book is Harry’s introduction to the fact there is a hidden world of magic.

                      OTOH Rowling wasn’t writing to adults but children. It was as the books were targeting older ages that she got trapped and the plot holes wizard world attitude started making less sense. But then established, and she was stuck.

                    12. > “I have not. Should I be looking for that?”

                      Eh, you’re not missing much. The wizard’s duel at the end is the best part:

                    13. Oh crap. As pointed out nearby, I reinvented someone else’s gag. Dang.

                      And “Wizards” used a Luger for a bit more “ancient relic” touch, not a more proper JMB design. But still.

                  2. > “Sneaks up on distracted boss and brains him with +5 cast iron skillet family avenger.”

                    Heh. I actually got the chance to do that once, before I quit tabletop gaming. The DM was expecting a lot of casualties, so he let us each have two PCs with levels in the teens… and a disposable low-level NPC. My NPC was a level 0 (yes, ZERO) elderly woman who ran a kitchen.

                    I managed to get both my PCs killed in short order and the DM offered to let me make a new one, but something came over me and I said “Screw it, I’ve still got my level 0 grandmother cook. Let’s roll with this and see how far it goes.” She ended up being one of the very few survivors and contributed significantly to the team’s success, albeit with her brains rather than her fighting prowess.

                    But she DID get to brain a bad guy with a frying pan. My only disappointment is that I didn’t roll well enough to actually knock him out.

                1. Now, what in the San-hedrin…?

                  (Same vocal pattern as “What in the Sam Hill?”, for anyone who’s puzzled/wants to try this one themselves to see people’s reactions.)

                  1. I suspect you’re too young to have encountered much of Monty Python’s Flying Circus the TV series.

                    Although in the modern era of Trans Everything some of the “ladies” read a little differently than in the 1970s.

                    1. Saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail all the way through once (alright, there was some skipping… most of the way through), and various of the better known sketches (“This is an EX-PARROT!”), but that one I’d never come across.

              4. > “And I imagine any final battle involving elderly women might not be the knock-down-drag-out punchfest or sword fight of most fantasy novels… Magic might work, but nothing particularly physical.”

                That depends on who or what the final battle is against:

                1. Damn it, why is part of the image getting cut off?

                  The text at the bottom says “Jerk chicken.” It’s an old ad for Buffalo Wild Wings.

                  1. Ah I see. I deleted some stuff at the end of the lin so that it would end in “.jpg” and that somehow caused the image to be cropped. I should have just added a “.jpg” to the end, like so:

        3. One notes that grandmothers have the advantage that mothers and fathers don’t: with a young enough protagonist, you aren’t stuck with the choice between “this person reached a fully adult age without acquiring responsibilities” or “this person sloughed off his responsibilities” or, of course, the baggage of explaining why he can quest without being irresponsible while you yourself don’t slow down the story, and likewise with an old enough one, readers will assume she had assumed responsibilities that are now more or less complete.

        4. Heh. The meme reminds me of the Polifax series! A little old granny decides to join the CIA. The first book involves her playing Solitaire with the McGuffin the entire time everyone is trying to figure out what is going on (and where the McGuffin is, for that matter!).

          I haven’t read those books, but I’ve been intending to. My wife has thoroughly enjoyed them!

          So there’s definitely room for those kinds of works.

        6. Granny Weatherwax would like a word…

          Or perhaps not. She knows very well the importance of not being thought a threat.

  5. Speaking of filthy politics, there’s a new movement to watch out for:

    Well, I’m sold. How is this not a major religion already?

    1. I keep being amazed at how often I see newspaper articles, memes, and other published writing with the wrong word in them. Admittedly a lot of people can’t spell and spell checkers can’t think, but still, “tenant” vs. “tenet”? That’s worse “principle” vs. “principal” (or “affect” vs. “effect”).
      Of course sometimes you encounter what looks like the wrong word but isn’t. I had fun the other day writing a comment in which I did not say “condemn” but rather “contemn”. And reading the old books in gutenberg.org is a great way to expand one’s vocabulary with familiar words used with different meanings (one of my current favorites: people armed with “hangers”).

        1. I learned that word when I looked up the full text of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, on the evening of 9/11/2001, to make a poster with a flag, that text, and “September 11, 2001 — never forgive” on it. It hung on my office wall for years.
          That full text is worth reading, it has a lot more to say than the well known first stanza.

      1. At first I thought you were referring to “eat a lot of eggs.” 😀

        But now that I’ve remembered party plank #1, I do acknowledge that a certain degree of… sophistry? flexibility? …may be required in its interpretation. “Women can’t read” doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t allowed to, if by some miracle one were to manage it, which of course could never happen.

        And the fact that most of the women I know are voracious readers — even the fact that my daughter reads more fluently in both French and English than most men ever will in one language — none of it, I say — will be allowed to dent my belief in this core political tenet tenant, which, in the spirit of this most current of all current political moments, I have embraced as Right and True. (I may never reach the level of the President of the United States, who seems to have believed a 24-year-old man who says he’s really a little girl, but I’m doing my best.)

      2. Heh. Yeah, I knew some female here would object to that point. 😉

        But there are other philosophies to choose from:

        As a female reader, perhaps you’d be interested in Librarianism?

        2. I would actually label myself a Radical Patriarchal Librarianist Feminist, although I will gladly reach across the aisle to support not only Constitutional Malarkeyites (of whom I suspect there are many on this blog), but also Underwater Nazis (some would argue it’s the best environment for Nazis, apart from volcanic calderas or outer space).

          1. I’m an Anarcho-Austist myself, though in my darker moments I find myself sliding into Bill Nyehilism.

    3. If you’re roughly the size of a barge…like me… This is the political party for YOU! (As a very large man, I approve this message.)

    1. Addendum: that line works even better when your gaming DM has done something to piss off the players.

      1. I have terrible luck with dice — in 35 years of gaming, I’d say low rolls vs. high rolls when it matters are running about 2 to 1 — so I can tell you from sad experience that it’s never a good sign for your character when the DM follows up your roll with, “Have I ever told you how much I love and appreciate you?”

        1. Oh dear. That ranks down there with, “Well, dang. This is gonna be interesting” from behind the DM screen.

        2. You know your group knows your dice roll luck when the DM says “Character creation! Everyone, roll three D6. Except you. Roll three D10, and then you have an extra 18 points to split up among your traits.”

          1. Then there is me…

            3d6 for stats at first DnD game.

            11-to-be: “Hmmm …. sixteen, sixteen, eighteen, eighteen, seventeen, seventeen. What should I be?”

            DM: “Shot”

            1. Blessed by an archfey, with the caviar that the entire opposing court is sending agents after you constantly. Or the weakened incarnation of a god, fleeing from half a dozen demonic cults who want to sacrifice you. Or granted power by an archdevil, but constantly struggling against the influence their gift has over you. (Whispers in your head, hallucinations, temptations, taunting…)

              High stat power? Sure, that’s fine. Just be aware that the story part of the game will be balanced to counter that. Evil smile

                  1. It’s “Tyops.” When referring to the Goddess of Keybroad Errors, it is blasphemy to spell her name correctly. 😛

                    1. “Klatuu Barradda…… (mumbles)oshit…”

                      “Close enough?”

                      “What is that ominous bass music?…..”

        3. 😀 LOL @ both comments.

          I haven’t had a special-rolls rule applied, but I have had the gamemaster say, “I hope you don’t mind if I take the liberty of rolling better stats for you.” I didn’t mind at all.

            1. When it’s available, that’s exactly what my current group does. We’ve got one guy who actually makes me look lucky by comparison. Dude should probably be studied by scientists, because it shouldn’t be possible to be that consistently unlucky with random numbers.

              Anyway, there isn’t a point-buy option for the old-school TMNT system from Palladium (and nobody wanted to invent one), so we had to… er… roll with it.

  8. An acquaintance who was in the local campus “medieval” group (non-sca) was making pretty good chainmail. To get used to wearing it for “battles” ( at around 45 pounds), he would wear it under his mundane clothing, all day. Big guy, kinda plain looking, football player build. He could hide the bulk under loose clothing.

    He worked nights at a convenience store off campus next to hoodsville. Novice wannabee thug asked him for a pack of smokes, which required turning around.

    Thug-novice thus drew a switchblade and stabbed clerk in kidney twice.

    Except… chainmail under company shirt.

    “Just a dang minute..”

    Stabbed in back again much harder.

    ” I said just a sec…”

    Turns ans sees gob-smacked thug staring at ruined (cheapo) knife.

    ” aaaaaaaaa!!!! I’m sorry Mr Kent! Won’t tell anyone you work here! ”

    And away he ran leaving the mangled knife on the counter.

    Yes, he had cheap glasses and dark unruly hair.

    For some reason, nothing ever happened on his shift after that, not even shoplifting.

    Lol.

    1. I heard the same story more than 20 years ago, only the punk snuck in through the back room. SCA Guy felt a thump on his back, turned around, saw the knife, and clouted the punk upside the head with an arm clad in 10 pounds of chain mail which he’d been wearing every day for months. It made a notable impression. As well as a concussion.

      1. A friend of ours made himself a chainmail shirt from split rings. Stainless steel and very lightweight. He was a health inspector in New Jersey and one morning he had the urge to wear his chainmail shirt under his business clothes. (He was short and roundish, not a fighter type at all).
        At any rate, he made a third visit to a restaurant that had already flunked inspection twice. When he told the cook they’d flunked again, the cook went berserk and threw a cleaver at him. Caught him square in the chest and knocked the wind out of him.
        Luckily there was a cop up front getting coffee. It took him and three others to subdue the cook, and meanwhile they called the meat wagon, convinced they had a corpse on their hands. Our friend woke up as the EMTs were looking him over and said, “No, look, I’m fine! See?” And he pulled his shirt open (it was already cut open and his tie was in two pieces) to reveal the chain mail.
        The story appeared in the paper as, “Health inspector assaulted on job,” with no mention of the chainmail. And he got reamed by his boss for not telling anyone he was that worried about his safety.

        1. I remember seeing someone busy making chainmail at the local skydiving center — I asked and yes, SCA member.
          You can find chainmail gloves in industrial safety equipment catalogs; they are worn as cut protective gloves by meat packers. Kevlar is nice but chainmail is more effective.
          Speaking of the weight, I have never heard of small skydivers wearing weight vests made of chainmail — it would be a neat way.

          1. Chainmail also makes good scrubs for cast iron and if you do a round, it makes a good pie crust weight. (Seriously, I’ve seen those for sale.)

            1. And finally, you can get pretty much full chainmail as diving gear, as an anti-shark measure. I have my doubts; the chainmail may mean your leg is still attached, but that bite force as crush damage won’t be a lot better.

              1. My beloved did a chainmail demo where he would make small pieces. He’d wrap up by asking the audience what they thought happened to all the chainmail and then tell them a lot got cut up in pot scrubbers.
                I found him an antique scrubber and he added it to his kit.

        3. Another medieval buddy made his mail out of thick aluminum wire.

          Knee length shirt plus hood felt like 15 pounds. Stuff was freaking Mithral.

      3. The fellow I mention was known to me personally. It was more than 20 years ago. Closer to 35.

        I was subsequently asked to test some samples from a skinny redhead dude for resistance to bullets. With simple “butted” links, even a .22 would get through, although the bullet did fragment. 9mm zipped right through, taking links with it.

        Further testing with a pickaxe and a tricorn bayonet also breached it.

        1. Skinny redhead dude also made chain and bunny fur bikinis for the ladies, which were surprisingly popular with the ladies, and heavily financed by the men.

          (Grin) win win.

      4. Read a similar SCA story in the days of usenet – Guy packing after an event, bent over loading his hatch-back. Bad guy stabs, chainmail saves.
        Guy turns around and finds bad guy holding damaged knife.
        SCA guy’s persona is Viking, grabs his battle axe, and shouts ‘blood and souls for Odin!’ and the bad guy departs post haste.
        Days later, SCA guy finds himself next to the bad guy at a bar’s urinals, leans over and whispers ‘blood and souls for Odin’… bad guy departs leaving a trail of yellow.

        And there is this one:

    1. No, this is a turkey designed by a Pentagon committee:

      As for the article — they want to convert our entire military over to ammunition that NONE of them have ever used before. Seems to me, I recall them doing that a while ago and it didn’t go over so well. And, 6.8 mm is more accurate than .308? In what universe? Bigger, heavier bullet always has a more predictable trajectory.

      Somebody is getting a lot of our tax money for this boonswoggle (bastard child of a boondoggle and a hornswoggle after a lot of drinking). I know! Shoot them all with 5.56 x 45, 7.62 x 51, and their newfangled 6.8 x 43 and let them decide which one they like best!
      ———————————
      There are forms of stupidity that businesses can’t indulge in. There are no such limitations on the stupidity of government.

        1. Yeah, I did some more checking and found that they’ve made themselves a cheap knockoff of the .270 Winchester, but with inferior ballistics.

          We all know if they do succeed in foisting this boonswoggle on the military, there will be commercial guns chambered for 6.8 x 43 within a year. Even though the .270 is way better.
          ———————————
          Grandpa voted Republican until the day he died — but he’s been voting Democrat ever since.

          2. It’s a Pentagon project; ain’t gonna be cheap. Inferior, likely, but not cheap.

            1. Not cheap but very profitable for the General in charge of procurement and of course the Big Guy will get his ten percent. La. was just complaining that The Briben Administration wouldn’t approve a green project for them. Dem gov. and all. Dude, increase the bribe to the Big Guy, you’ll get approval the very next day. ‘Joe the pedo Briben’ the best president money can buy.

        2. “Cant” lasts about a week, then the various makers commence making.

          In the event of a ban, then takers take.

          Either way, never works.

      2. I thought the reasoning for weapons like the M-16 and ammo like 5.56 is that you get a light weight rifle of very modest power, but just enough to fairly reliable incapacitate the enemy. I always get a laugh when victim disarmers claim that the M-16 (or AR-15) is “high powered” and so amazingly powerful that it will shred any deer. The reality, of course, is that it’s too underpowered to be legal in many states for hunting animals that size.

        1. 5.56 is too light a projectile for Man. Most hunters say “woodchuck”, maybe “coyote”.

          7.62 works fir Man, either US or Soviet loadings.

          6.8 works, being a reasonable compromise between 7.62 and 5.56.

          And yes, because of decades of research on ballistics, a modern 6.8 beats a traditional 7.62 on accuracy.

          Note how very few folks use .30/7.62 in the National Matches, versus 5.56/.223. (Ranges fired are 200, 300, and 600 yards) When I shot Camp Perry over 30 years ago, I only observed one other AR-15/5.56 shooter. Certainly fewer than five. Now, most (almost all) use 5.56 preferred over the heavier .30/7.62.

          Hmmm. Must be something to accuracy besides bullet mass. Or that would not have happened.

          The 6.8 projectile is actually a welcome change. It will hit much harder and further out than 5.56, something the 11-folks have been bitching about since the 5.56 debuted.

          I remain to be convinced the new -platform- has been debugged. Even the Garand had teething problems. Blessedly, we had three-ish years to fix it before we joined WW2.

          I did not at all feel under-gunned with my issue M-16A1. I also can shoot “expert” in my sleep. Maxed the qualification on try one at Benning. However, I have since found that better exists, and has for a while.

    2. The Ruger Vaquero is a very good cowboy gun. I have used them for 20+ years

      The Ruger 1911 is well done, especially for the price point.

  14. “Bureaucrats attempt to replace thinking with rules, in the belief that if they can just make up enough rules, nobody will ever need to think again.”

    If you do insist on thinking, you’re breaking the rules.

  16. My “problem” with the assassins going after Clark Kent (for any reason) is that it wouldn’t be a comedy very long.

    Some of Clark’s friends would get hurt and then Superman (with the assistance of Batman) would track down who was behind the assassins. 😈

    1. I don’t know, heat vision to the foot or bounced off a mirror to their butts, just as they are trying to shoot him, Didn’t you ever watch the 1950’s version of the Superman TV show, hifrigginlarious, especially as a stoned teenager. I can think of a hundred things he could do, and not give up his identity and at least fifty funny as hell. They try to snipe him and he moves just before the bullet gets there. Doesn’t even have to use super speed. The CIA assassin can even name him mister lucky.

      1. Oh, I agree that Clark could easily avoid attacks on himself.

        I’m talking about what happens if the “miss” injures somebody like Lois.

        In any case, even if none of Clark’s friends are endangered, Clark would want to know “who is trying to kill him”.

        While Bruce Wayne didn’t exist in that early Life-Action Superman TV show, IMO Clark would attempt (and likely succeed) in learning “who is trying to kill me”. 😀

        1. Miss Clark Kent, hit Lois Lane? They’d never find the body. I mean, there’s always a volcano erupting somewhere, right? Or he could drop the miscreant off in the Pacific Ocean 2,000 miles from the nearest island and leave the rest to the sharks.

          Clark was an ace reporter. Of course he could figure it out.

          2. Fly up into space…not too fast, give the fecking bastard time to beg and cry…and then launch the frozen corpse at super-speed toward the sun. And if it happens to be intercepted by the gravity well of Venus or Mercury, future spacefaring generations will have a fun time unraveling the mystery of the orbiting corpse(s).

            1. This !!! Kal-El can be an absolute bastard if you hurt someone he loves. Not my idea of a good time.

          3. B&W TV

            Jimmy and Lois investigate who is trying to kill Clark. They get captured. Superman to the rescue. Gratuitous sound effects of bullets bouncing off pecs. Hood throws gun. Supes catches and bends. Comment on crime not paying. Someone makes a quip. Roll credits.

            (Grin)

              1. “Yes Jimmy. This is why we study the classics in school.”

                (Sound of superman flying away)

                (Theme music)

                (Grin)

            2. “Why did Superman stand there and let bullets bounce off him, but when the bad guy got frustrated and threw the gun at him, he ducked?”

              1. Kryptonians are only naturally invulnerable around yellow stars. This means they have the same reflexes as anyone else. Superman trained himself out of reacting to bullets, but didn’t bother with anything else.

                1. On the other hand, the actor in the TV show had good reasons to avoid something thrown at his head. [Crazy Grin]

                  IE It was easy to fake bullets hitting his chest harmlessly but more difficult to fake a gun hitting his head harmlessly.

                  1. When Arrowette got in his face, Superman pulled back like anyone else — and that was in the comics.

              2. Because the blanks in the guns were not even pointed directly at Mr. Reeves, but getting beaned with a rubber prop-gun can really hurt.

                …

                Superhero-world character, a story wrecker:

                The Reality Kid!

                (sees flying super approaching, using “antigravity” and “sci-fi unobtanium-catalyzed generator”)

                “You cant do that! It violates Newtonian Physics, and conservation of momentum, and that power gizmo you bragged about violates Quantum Entanglement. Wont work!”

                (super-powers sputter, fade, and fail)

                CRASH!

                “What? Im… Im powerless! YOU FIEND!!!”

                (childish laughter)

          4. besides, what you need is a continuously ascending string of absurdities as Clark prevents it from killing other people

      1. That’s the point.

        The Scriptwriters likely wouldn’t let the assassins be “un-noticed” by Clark and not even the most idiot script-writers would prevent Clark from tracking them down. 😉

    1. I am not required to support the choices you make in life.
      I am not required to agree with you at all.
      Nor are you required to agree with me.
      But you don’t have the right to try and force me to agree with you.
      Nor do I have the right to force you to agree with me.
      What you do is try and convince me with the truth and facts and I try to convince you.
      If you can’t, than that is your problem, not mine maybe you need to examine your facts.
      And all the childish temper tantrums you throw only reinforce my original opinion.
      You want to be treated like an adult.
      Grow up and stop acting like a child.
      How you ask?
      It starts with respecting the other person and stopping the childish hate.

      1. “We understand that some people have different opinions about these things, and we respect their opinions at precisely the same level of enthusiasm with which they respect ours.”
        -Mark Rippetoe

      2. My BIL, when my sister lost a political argument against a 12 year old.

        “Forget the facts! Stick to the talking points!”

        Yes, direct quote, yes I was there.

  19. #3

    “RI-NO and the Trump-dog, prepare for battle…”

    (LOTS of guitar and percussion)

    “Trump-dog, is victorious! The shores of the USA are saved again!….”

    (Grin)

    2. Aaaaand for some reason I’m imagining Trump in Manga-style armor a la Voltron [lions] against one of the robeasts.

  22. Memeries,
    from the files of my phone,
    blurry, pixelated memeries,
    of the ‘Net of yore

    1. Oompa Loompa Doopity dee I get a little puzzle for thee
      What do you get when you elect a Crook
      Oompa Loompa Doopity doo
      I do believe you just got the screw

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