*Bob the Registered Fool needs no introduction. For years, he’s vacillated between a sanish commenter and utter trolling. During SP the other side used the fact I hadn’t banned him as ipso facto proof that I was the world’s worst person.
To be fair, some of his crazier comments made all of us go “No, BOB!” Like when he suggested that we kill every foreigner or the like. You kind of needed to understand that to an extent Bob was measuring us, with those comments.
And yet there is often a point at the back of his crazier comments, that makes you think. Something like: “if it’s the business of the US to ensure peace in the world, wouldn’t it be easier to kill the rest of the world. Evil, sure, but easier. Also, maybe it’s not the business of the US to ensure any such thing, unless our interests are at stake?”
Anyway, I count it as one of the scariest things about the last two years that Bob actually started making sense a remarkable number of times. I don’t know if he’s getting saner, or if times– Well, yeah, times.
His guest post below makes sense, though like some of my earlier ones it’s a ball of interconnected stuff and a bit labyrinthine. But still, worth reading and discussing.
I’m trying to finish Bowl of Red under the handicap of Dan having shared his cold. It’s just a cold, but I haven’t had one in years (I thought I did, but it was allergies) and it’s making writing very odd.)
So– Dear Lord, I never thought I’d type this — below is Bob the Fool’s guest post.* SAH
A Case Study in Thinking About Fractally Wrong Ideas by Bob Fool
Near two weeks ago, Sarah gave us an essay that made the following point, which deserves expansion.
Make sure you’re thinking. Not just following programming. Inverse program is still program. “The left believes this so the inverse must be true” is easy. It’s also wrong at least 50% of the time, and often more. It’s not that simple. It never was. And you have to think.
A fractally wrong idea is one where not only is the basic argument wrong when taking it at face value, not only you will also arrive at a wrong answer if you take it apart and flip one piece, but you will find that there are several wrong answers depending on how deep you go.
The left has heard of divide and rule. They are also deeply invested in dividing people in neat categories, and using whatever reality exists of that division for their own profit.
The left’s espoused race ideas make for a good case study. The left is presenting several ideas that may seem defensible on their own, but when you look at them together, closely, have implications deeply offensive to sanity and to good order.
One of the left’s current tactics is holding up absolute fruitcakes as spokesmen for policies, including insane policies, that purport to favor blacks in order to ‘address prior discrimination’. Forex, 1619 Project’s “America has always explicitly been about oppressing blacks” and Black Lives Matter’s “actually, civil peace is a white supremacist conspiracy” together raise the obvious question of “Okay, if what you say is true, for what principled reason would it be wrong to murder blacks, beyond personal preference for one faction over another?”
Bowing to the brass idol they present, is only one of the victory conditions that they are seeking.
If you buy into their division, buy into their theory that unconstrained violence is the answer, they get the wider war that they are crazy enough to think that they win.
They do not have unconditional support by blacks. If they did, the cold ish civil war would be obviously very hot. If you buy into the left’s race division nonsense (instead of sorting by actual violence) the left has already set up a propaganda campaign trying to sell your speech to the blacks as “look at X, the whites are going to kill you unless you support the people fighting on your behalf”.
The spokesmen that they are using are utterly vile people, but they have had to work hard to find them, and to develop them. Look at Shaun King; They had to employ a white guy because they could not find enough actual blacks sociopathic, dishonest, and with the necessary social skills to staff that position, and all of the other positions that they need filled.
Obama and the rest of the race war nutters pushing this have been trying seriously to ignite this for around ten years, and whites and blacks have been quietly looking at matters, and whispering “No.”
I have outlined why the left text is wrong. I have shown a practical reason why “use the left’s methods on the blacks that by ‘helping’ they have painted a target on” also serves a left agenda. I have also shown that their implicit claim of black support is at least partly wrong. But there are more falsehoods that are not necessarily errors on their part, that we may believe if we engage with them carelessly.
The modern idea of race is modern. It comes with the bureaucracy that is a feature of a relatively modern state. With that bureaucratic capability, you may believe that you can measure any number of important things. You may conclude that counting a Hmong, an Ainu, and a Miao as of ‘the Mongoliad race’, or that the number of butchers, Samurai or left-handed painters named Fred are matters of pressing importance. Bureaucracies can easily know these things. Behavior, on the other hand, is something that bureaucracies have great difficulty with.
Some of us may wonder, what if race is a real thing? What if these aggregations map to something with biological reality?
Well, does it matter how many retards, or how many low functioning autistics there are? Is it really any business of yours? A bureaucracy may say ‘yes’. A bureaucracy that has seized the business of paying for medical expenses will say yes, will have funding shortfalls from the consequences of the seizure, and will try to solve them by finding the unprofitable disabled, and eliminating them.
Leave aside the intractability about usefully measuring real differences across groups so large. Your real business that might be considered race involves the behavior of individuals towards other individuals. It matters to you if someone is being vicious to you, or causes harm to your loved ones, or has helped you out of a dark and difficult place, without realizing, simply by being a decent human being.
It also matters because leftism is an ungodly heresy, and being faithful to God is one of the ways we oppose them. Humans are Children of God, and by acknowledging that, whether we oppose abortion, deny the inhumanity of their technocratic ‘logic’, or refuse to believe their classifications, we fight them, without lifting a finger.
Behavior is what is important, we throw that away when considering race in place of individuals. Some individuals are being unjustly treated harshly, and some individuals are being unjustly treated leniently. I do my best to address that with my own behavior. Which has at time not improved matters.
No matter how much important cultural differences may appear to correlate with race, culture is a choice of behavior. It is behavior that makes someone an enemy or ally.
T4 was a profound waste, and wholly unnecessary; that Reich did not need to be doing the things it seized power to do, and tried to accomplish. In making the economy ‘more efficient’ with central planning, they screwed up things so badly that Germany had shortages of coal. They did not know who really needed coal, or when, because they had thrown that information away, and made sure that no one really had it. When we talk about that regime’s failings, we usually talk about the high profile, utterly outrageous things, but we should not forget that they in fact failed in very many, or almost every way, because of their choices in methods and goals. We should also not forget that our current foe shares enough of those methods and goals, that they will share some of that incredible record of failure once it is no longer concealed by lies. Shortage of coal in Germany, of all places.
The left tells us they will win, based on theoretical models that are at soundest based on past behavior, and will not reliably predict the future; They throw away information, and cannot predict the wins that we create by having many separated people working on different parts of a problem.
Our observations actually suggest that very many folks have aligned ‘our way’ on some of the very critical issues I touched on here. They may have in fact screwed up so badly, have so few real supporters, that matching them in making mistakes is the only way that we can lose. I’m not certain of that, but much of the time it seems possible that they have lost. I will say that in seeing through the fractal error, in other techniques that I have noticed, and in techniques which I haven’t noticed, we have all that tools that we might need to win. I would say that we might have victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror.
They are desperate, because of what we have not done.
The race war nutters have grown desperate, and resorted to using white college students to carry out arson, and Democrat elected officials have implicated themselves providing cover in a way that is not deniable.
They have resorted to the Covid stuff.
They are trying to bring in foreigners here, who do not understand American circumstances, precisely because they have failed to move Americans. They are trying because their earlier attempts to bring in foreigners via the academic route, who have mostly been acculturated inside the insane incestuous echo chamber of academia, had failed to bring the degree of results that they desired.
Well, it turns out that Dr. Aruna may understand American culture much better than they expected, because they are utter fruitcakes on culture, and on American culture.
The Mexican illegal workforce has not been their panacea either. Now they are trying a bunch of people who don’t speak English, from further afield than Mexico, and deliberately unvetted for disease.
They think misery begets communist revolution, so they think that a lack of communist revolution is addressed by making us more miserable. This is not true. But, we thwart them by being happy. If not thinking about their hurtful words leaves space for happiness, then not engaging is one minor victory. Engaging, finishing quickly, and then moving on is another. The deep engagement, rigorously showing that they are not intelligent, that their ‘theory’ is no part of any sound education or research, and that they are simply vile people, who will do vile unnecessary things so long as they have the ability, may also be a victory.
Their ideas are wrong, often fractally wrong, and potentially more difficult to find the correct answers from than starting from a known correct position.
Rigor can be exhausting, but it is worth looking carefully at the real world, and seeing why their madness need have no relationship to it.
Have a merry Kulturkampf, and a happy new Boog!