I’m mostly posting this so that you know I’m still alive.
I have a chapter of Witch’s Daughter “hanging on the machine” as mom said of half completed work (in her case sewing or knitting machine.) But I woke up feeling out of it and as though I have a hangover — probably the result of taking benadryl last night as eczema has started colonizing my neck now, and this is ridiculous. So I’m being extremely slow, and we have to go out today and do stuff. So–
Look, “how people behave” is a great way to solve mystery fiction, but probably not admissible in court.
HOWEVER the way the left and the media and social media are behaving is like conquerors who think (rightly) the rest of the nation is against them. More, they’re behaving like conquerors who KNOW they can’t hold on long. The stink of fear is roiling off them to the point of choking us. And frankly it’s making the rest of us afraid, because as grandma said “You can’t afford to trust a fool even on the ladder to heaven. They might push you down for no reason.”
Much less trusting a fool that will soon have access to nuclear weapons and the purse and army of the US.
And it fits neatly with the potemkin campaign which of necessity required most votes to be fraudulent and yet still came up short.
They have skipped the glorious reign 1000 years and are going right into locking themselves in bunkers from which they issue increasingly more deranged orders.
And their social media arm is going all in with them, because they are a unit. Behold the wisdom of our tech lords (a friend got this yesterday.)
You have to be pretty darn desperate to go around blocking anyone who questioned your ideas. This person is at about my level, maybe a little lower in influence.
This morning another friend sent me this he received:
FB just sent me a notice stating that I’m blocking from creating new groups, and blocked from creating events…expect more of this behavior.
Guys, yeah, this is totalitarianism, but it’s end-stage, last gasp totalitarianism. When they get to this point, THEY KNOW the whole country is against them, with not a shred of doubt. Hell, even hostile conquerors who just got done killing all the tribe’s nobility aren’t this scared.
Of course, this could be because they’re also not very bright. America fought long enough that when they COULD accomplish this all they had was “fourth generation” which in commie terms is like the 17th generation of royalty who marry their cousins.
In either case, it’s a bizarre thing to live through. Even the Soviets turned a blind eye to jokes about the regime, because they knew it was a safety valve.
Looks at sky When I told You to get a new plot, I meant one that makes sense. And not make live through it, oh, Lord.
I think the only reason I’m at large is, ironically, because I was banned for 24 hours. We’ll see if it subsists after this post, right?
Anyway, I’m okay, but have a lot of driving to do today. Because I’m NOT doing anything tomorrow. Or being anywhere I’m expected to be.
Meanwhile, y’all remember that a wounded pig is the most dangerous creature in the world, and despite their appearance of being in power, that’s exactly what we have: a wounded pig at bay.
Don’t be stupid and fall in any traps.
There will be time, by the by, to set things to right, and maybe — though I don’t see it — a way to minimize the butcher’s bill.
For now, this unfortunately applies to us:
“Everywhere he found boiling resentment, a fierce willingness to fight against the tyranny, but it was undirected, uncoordinated, and in any modern sense, unarmed. Sporadic rebellion was as futile as the scurrying of ants whose hill has been violated. PanAsians could be killed, yes, and there were men willing to shoot on sight even in the face of the certainty of their own deaths. But their hands were bound by the greater certainty of brutal multiple retaliation against their own kind. As with the Jews in Germany before the final blackout in Europe, bravery was not enough, for one act of violence against the tyrants would be paid for by other men, women and children at unspeakable compound interest.” -Robert Heinlein, “Sixth Column”
Except I’d say that the current crop are not nearly as competent as the PanAsians. And they’ll probably manage to do what nothing else has done: organize the individualists, just in sheer outrage and horror.
Be not afraid. Go work for liberty.
550 thoughts on “The Stink Of Fear”
A heartening perspective! I am trying to deceive a sense of adventure from current circumstances, and this helps.
Well played, math geek!
Engineer. We make math geeks stuff work
Seen on a bumper sticker: “I voted for Biden but really?” Seen around my town still, Trump 2020 flags. Y’all stay away from the cities this week unless you must be there for work. If so, heads on swivels. I think I might not feel well myself.
Here in California it is assumed your ballot will not counted honestly.
So why bother?
My reason is to make ’em work harder. If they’re going to fraud, make them work for it. That’s when mistakes get made.
Plus, the fraud generally seems to be targeted on one or two key focus areas in each election. For example, Orange County was able to elect Republican Congresscritters in this election, as opposed to the previous election where they all lost (even when the initial tallies showed some of them winning). As another example, Proposition 209 – which was passed by the voters in the ’90s and bans discrimination by public institutions based on race (including affirmative action) – is still on the books despite an attempt to overturn it in the election that just passed. Or in other words, the fraud currently doesn’t seem to apply to everything on the ballot.
“Of course the game is rigged. But if you don’t play, you can’t win.”
— Lazarus Long
But then again, old Lazarus, aka Woodrow Wilson Smith, had a nasty habit of either exposing the cheaters, using their own tricks against them, or simply ensuring that they would no longer be a useless waste of oxygen.
You say that like it’s a bad thing. 😉
The Senior bees my hero.
> So why bother?
As Junior sez, not all races are subject to the same level of fraud and the more fraud the Left uses, the easier it is to see. An example is Prop 15 went down to defeat with about 52% of the vote. It may have been the Left expected to win that one but if none of those opposed bothered to vote, the proposition would have passed.
I have never claimed the Left is particularly bright. Look at who there choice for President was.
“…their choice…” not “…there choice…”
Just mentioning ’em rots your brain!
Because if we win by enough, they can’t cheat enough to steal the election. If we don’t show up, they don’t even have to cheat. As another poster said, make them work for it.
Er…. Were you awake for that last election, the one in November? Trump had a LANDSLIDE and they cheated enough. And our courts abetted them.
Sarah, Having lived in the USA for ten years and visited often thereafter, I think this is like Daffy Duck’s big finish, where he eats 100lbs of dynamite and then eats a match. They can only do it once.
Do you remember during the Obama administration, people would randomly start going off about stuff like the national debt in grocery stores? I saw that often enough in Arizona that it became quite a thing. Then I spent a week in California, in the very heart of Silicon Valley. And I saw people going off about the national debt or some other Obama-era shite in a Whole Foods in Cupertino. And I said to myself: “Holy shit, dude. You are not the only one who noticed. Random people are saying the exact thing you think, out loud, in the grocery store.”
So I think all those people who were -RANTING- in the store, and all the other people in the store who were shouting “TESTIFY!!!” while the rant was going on… they’re all still out there. And they all saw what I saw.
Yeah. Daffy only gets one try. That was it. If they make a big move now, there will be a response so much bigger they won’t even believe it.
Still, that being said, today, the 17th, is a good day to stay home and let the scammers and useful idiots have the roads to themselves. The 20th, another good day to stay home.
And on a lighter note, all you gamer nerds out there remember: On November 6th, 2022, Sword Art Online goes live.
Out and away from San Antonio, I saw nothing but Trump-Pence signs out in the country, all through December.
Some of us live in cities. I’m planning on staying inside.
I feel moderately safe (with the usual, and slowly upgrading precautions) going into our small city. The Governor’s Writ to keep restaurants closed is eroding, with one openly defying Despicable Kate Brown, and the county commissioners saying they won’t enforce state rules about Covididiocy closures. Our sheriff is also on board with the commissioners.
BLM was chased out of downtown in June, though the main highway corridor left us vulnerable to one large arson fire in September. We had a small fire locally, but our people got it out before it did much damage. OTOH, the thugs managed to piss off the tribes, generally a group of people it’s unwise to piss off. Got popcorn?
OMG. Must get popcorn. Just waiting now for a Tribal Police Officer to get involved with an officer on other ethnic, not Native American, shooting. Is BLM going to go protest on the reservation? Which is 100% possible to occur at one of the Casinos; and there is much there to
lootre-appropriate along with their protest. After all Native Americans held slaves well before the European Trashsettlers rowed across the Atlantic.
Main street small town Iowa.
There are now more “Trump 2020 stop this BS” flags than before the election.
And all the Biden are gone.
Being married to an extreme introvert, and finding it difficult all my life to make friends, I really don’t know how I’d find similarly thinking people in my area, or find out if any legit local action was going on. At this point, I’m just trying to take care of the people I care about, amd provide a listening ear. Those are my superpowers.
Listening is a superpower. Right now people are afraid. Helping them feel less afraid is a big deal.
But I might suggest finding a church. It doesn’t matter if you don’t believe in God. Go anyway. Find a church that’s in person, holding events, allowing singing, has mask-free folks, whatever shows you they’re like minded. go and listen. Go there and watch those people and maybe they’ll say hello. Maybe they’ll invite you to something else like minded.
I do have a church, been attending this one for about 15 years. Nobody wears a mask. Unfortunately, our church has a very small membership, and I know just about everyone who attends already.
When/If the senate does anything with Shampeachment Two: Communist Boogerloo*, perhaps the only posts should be images of a certain Australian marsupial.. and I do not mean wallaby.
* Not a typo. If they’re gonna be little snots…
I’m sure there is an image out there somewhere, of a bunch of ‘roos sitting in a jury box. 😀
They may be relatives of mine but it is undeniable that kangaroos are jerks. Well done!
Somebody ought to plaster that around the Supreme Court.
Here is a place to start
That’s a good one 🙂 I’m thinking that some nice memes could be made out of the “hangman” game too… but all the details haven’t come together.
I am currently delivering packages all around DFW, and I am still seeing lots of Trump signs and flags (at one house they had carefully and studiously taped over “Pence” on all the signs where his name appeared…interesting comment there). Not near as many Biden ones… You are correct, they are deathly afraid, and they know they’ve been caught out…much more nervous than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
In our county (rural, east of the Cascades), I saw one Biden hat all year. When I was in the Medford area, there weren’t many Biden signs, although that county is redder than some, modulo the People’s Republic of Ashland. OTOH, the Pantifa fire that hit between Ashland and Medford *really* ticked off a lot of people, many of them now former Democrats.
Just when I was starting to feel better about my local surroundings, I was sucked into reading the latest mask-up rantings on Nextdoor. I should have known better. Some still find the wounded pig attractive. It must have lipstick.
Regarding the ‘Sixth Column” quotation… I’ve had this image of the USA/American Publcis ‘magnetic domains’… a random jumble.. when things are good, or not too bad, or even bad but no obviously influence. BUT if someone is *stupid enough* to cause a near full-on alignment.. “You poor bastard.”
I think the actions of Twitter and other social media are more about business than politics, although the politics dovetails nicely with their actions. They’d like to continue their business model without fear of being broken up or facing lawsuits, so they don’t want people talking about monopolies or Section 230 at all. The people talking about that happen to be the people the Left wants to shut up, and since they sit in tenuous seats of power, social media feels NOW is the best time for their overtly illegal moves: fear of legal repercussions are the lowest they’re going to be. I think their only fear now is shareholder action, which is plausible, based on their public statements which turned out to be false. I think getting rid of Parler has a business motive much more than a political one.
I’m not sure I agree. Twitter lost a lot of their audience with the purges. Sure, they’re stupid so they probably think they can “ride it out”. But I work in the tech industry and I can tell you that their (vocal) employees are pushing really really hard in a leftist direction. Picture a bunch of of the worst of the Twitterati sitting at Macbooks in their various “at home” offices and cheering each other on for the censoring, suppressing and de-platforming of the “Trumptards”. Most tech companies make a big deal out of being “responsive” and have almost all set up “diversity and inclusion” boards and processes. They’re totally “converged”. Big Tech is doing what the employees at Big Tech want them to. Jack Dorsey looks like a homeless guy on drugs and in videos of him he doesn’t sound all that together. So maybe he’s on drugs or zoned out, but he’s a true believer in the Way of Woke, and his social circle is all about the Woke, and being a human social ape wants to be approved of.
Claiming that Big Tech makes political moves for business reasons doesn’t hang together, for me.
Remember that long post he did (last year?) on attending a meditation retreat in Myanmar during the Rohinga purges? Totally oblivious to the political situation and full of praise for the retreat.
rotten biz model if true.
Twitter and FB are open now to proof they are not what they’ve been claiming under 230.
Yeah, dropping the Parler was biz, but it was done by using politics and amplifies the fact they are not dropping people for reason’s they claim. It is also shedding them users and costing them millions. And those people are not coming back.
Not to mention that dropping Parler the way they did violated their contract. If a business can’t be trusted, they don’t stay in business long. AWS may be in for some rough times ahead, unless they’re protected by their political allies.
They are the “single-source cloud provider” for the Central Intelligence Agency, which announced it was moving *all* of its stuff – even the most highly classified – to Amazon Cloud. Other Federal agencies have made similar announcements.
So the Fed won’t allow them to fail, no matter how badly they screw up.
Oh, and the CIA has already had one publicly-admitted oopsie, when someone forgot to put a password on one of their Amazon cloud urinals, or whatever it is they call their storage blocks.
Any of you lusers who might be thinking “moving critical intelligence data to a non-government third party sounds like a bad idea” are doddering fossils left over from the 20th century, utterly unable to understand modern information access and security. And probably poopy-heads too.
If Amazon has all of the CIA’s data, so do the communist Chinese.
The stupid, it BUUURNS!!
Unless, of course, that was the point.
…even my university went with MSoft’s cloud servers rather than Amazon’s, because because MSoft doesn’t have that Chinese connection.
Happily not all of our government agencies are dumb enough to do their storage on Amazon’s computers.
I was wondering how well this is going over in outside sales at AWS. I suspect a not insignificant share of potential clients are down grading reliability estimates on AWS when comparing services.
If they were simply doing what is best for business rather than being ideologically driven, the TechLords and the three-letter-media would have been publicly weathervaning with the prevailing political winds in 2016 and 2018, but they were not.
If they were doing best-for-business, they would have told their biased employees to keep it out of the workplace. But they did not.
If they had not bee ideologically driven, they would have restrained public actions at the corporate level that made the chapter and verse case for changes to Section 230. But they did not.
Making overtly illegal moves is never, not ever, in the category of what’s good for business, unless they are trying to angle for a national socialist captive-corporations-left-intact landing of the revolution instead of a full-commie seizure of private companies landing.
I certainly don’t get that vibe – the Twittler Heroin Addict Troll King comes off as dedicated revolutionary comrade to my read, the TehGoogIsEeeevil execs come off as do-anything-for-the-revolution prostitutes, and the Lizard King of Zuckerbook just comes off as being over on the other side of the uncanny valley.
The only one that reads to me as whatever-is-best-for-the-bottom-line is the outgoing CEO of The House of The Mouse and future ambassador to the Court of the God Emperor Winnie the Pooh.
> I think getting rid of Parler has a business motive much more than a political one.
I tend to agree. Facebook and Twitter do not want any competition. Who does? Parler was low hanging fruit in that the owner had a moderation policy that reduced to: If is legal it is OK. The so-called “insurrection” in DC just provided the 9/11 to act against a competitor. Yes, Apple, Amazon, and Google had to go along but they are Lefty companies and scared of their own employees. Enough complaints from the staff and they will fold. One thing the Left is really good at is ginning up an illusion of “grass root” support.
If they get away with Parler they will come for MeWe and Minds — both are hoisted in the Amazon cloud so they are easy targets. Gab may last a little longer since it is hosted on Cloudflare. Nevertheless, the Long March continues.
Parler let itself be vulnerable. If they had paid a moment’s attention to Gab, they might have noticed that having all their servers under the control of a company not explicitly Deplorable was a risky move. For that matter, having a lot of their support in the same category was beyond risky.
Rumor has it that they had the money to get the servers, but didn’t. I really don’t know what they were trying to accomplish.
Economies of scale means that using a cloud provider gets you more bang for your buck than running your own servers. Yes, there was the example of Gab highlighting the dangers, but there were far more social media companies that hadn’t been booted off. And it’s not like Parler was building itself as threat to anyone, especially Amazon. The decision to go with AWS was the rational one at the time. Now, however, any social media company that wants to survive needs to get the hell off Amazon and any other woke service provider.
Since they are going after domain reg and service providers, having your own servers does not give you any defense against the purge.
Maybe hosting overseas in multiple locations, registering domain name(s) offshore, and doing what arfcom did and prepositioning a live backup with all different (hosting, domain reg, etc.) is the only way.
Changing those is far easier than changing servers, and you’ll eventually find one that realizes they can make a shedload of money by resisting the mob.
I’m not sure how they’re defending the domain, but they had trouble with upstream providers and DDOS protection. Somehow, Cloudflare is sticking with them.
The worst bit has been the financial crud. When the credit card company (Visa, I think) cancelled Gab, they also went after Torba *and* his family. I would not be surprised to see some interesting lawsuits if and when we get a justice system back.
Lots of businesses that should know better snort the cloud off the silver spoon. But it’s only laziness that makes them settle for *one* cloud provider. They could have split their storage and processing across a dozen at a modest cost of dollars and administrative overhead.
I bet they didn’t have any off-Amazon backups, either. “You don’t need to back up the cloud!” Until your provider turns your access off, and then you don’t have a business any more.
Admins have a word for businesses who do that sort of thing. The word is “stupid.”
…but the ones that get caught that way call it ‘bad luck’. 😦
it’s not stupid, it’s just different priorities. Up until last week the idea that a cloud provider would just turn off access to a customer without at least some warning was a risk on par with asteroid impacts, so any costs assumed to mitigate that risk would provide no benefit and mean that the company couldn’t do something else. Remember, resources are finite so you have to buy your reliability with something.
Economy of Scale isn’t the only selling point for the cloud. Gab’s currently suffering from an influx of members, and an inability to handle the additional load on the servers that it’s using due to the additional traffic from all of the new users. If it had AWS or a similar cloud service (and could trust that service not to arbitrarily shut everything down…), then Gab could ask the cloud service for the short-term use of large amounts of additional server capacity until traffic stabilized at the new, larger figure. At that point, it could sign a long-term contract for the capacity needed for the new volume of traffic.
The end result would be fewer service interruptions for Gab’s users.
If wishes were horses…
But they can’t, so they’re busily scrambling to get their own servers up and running. Until there’s a cloud server that’s a) Right Wing Deplorable friendly, and b) as well protected as (for instance) Gab, there’s no point in musing about renting server capacity.
OTOH, I can see Torba getting a bright idea and building a cloud server farm. They’ve already started rolling out GabTV (I’m missing a something in my computer and can’t enable much video, so no idea how good it is. I usually don’t watch video, so it’s not a priority.)
From what I hear, Gab is far, far more resilient to this kind of thing.
Yes, after a boatload of attacks from multiple paths. (Cyber, cancel culture and some amazing hit pieces–can you say “It’s not absence of malice”?)
The buzzword is anti-fragile, and I think Gab has achieved that, short of physical attacks. Speaking of which, Roger Stone’s wife got severely beaten when she went to walk her dog. The LSM is ignoring it, but https://archive.is/pitY4 has the info.
Had Mrs. Stone’s assailant required as many as three stitches for dog bite I am confident the MSM would have reported that assault far and wide.
“I tend to agree. Facebook and Twitter do not want any competition. Who does?”
A well-managed company welcomes honest competition. It keeps management sharp and enhances their focus on efficiencies. It also reduces internal pressure for pay and benefit raises that are not a result of productivity. Moreover, it mitigates against certain types of external pressures, such as legislative oversight, which can be extremely harmful over time. It also provides an outlet for disgruntled consumers, who can be advised to take their business elsewhere (although usually in more conciliatory phrasing.)
Competition is good for us, even if we sometimes would rather sleep in and still get that stupid worm.
Google is already giving Minds.com the Parler treatment.
They lost $51 BILLION in stock value over the next 24 hours. Not exactly a solid business decision. And the owners have been caught redhanded talking about “get rid of Trump and supporters”.
That’s why I think shareholder action is their biggest fear, and why I think cozying up to the Left is a business strategy: it gives them some amount of shielding from legislation and possibly lawsuits. I don’t doubt they’re true believers, I think their main motive is maintaining their money/lifestyle, and it jibes nicely with their business strategy of becoming the political Left’s darling waychdog/pet.
I think the loss was unexpected; after all we have nowhere else to go, right? RIGHT?? at least, if they can help it.
Someone pointed out that the Media/BigTech is not the propaganda arm of the Democrats; rather, the Democrats are the enforcement arm of the Media/BigTech.
As I keep saying, I don’t know if the media is/are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Dem Party, or if it’s the other way round, but it’s OBVIOUS that they are in CAHOOTS.
That explains why Dorsey seemed so sad in his justification – he hated OMB as required, but he’s one of the inevitable arrow eggs and he knows it.
Keep in mind that the largest institutional investors in these companies are the large government pension funds, which serve the interest of the state government employees. CALPERS is, or was, the largest shareholder in the world.
These government funds exert a lot of power and many of them have had “social justice” investment guidelines added to their investment requirements and are pushing companeis to be even more radical. When big funds are more concerned about advancing political ideology than the share price and return on investment, it corrupts the entire check on management power that shareholders are supposed to exert.
Yet Another Reason to eliminate all government pensions. Let ’em fund their own 401(k)’s just like the peons.
Including military pensions?
All right, that could be an exception. But then, military pensions are paid directly out of taxes, aren’t they? Not piled up, hoarded and administered by a gigantic bureaucracy given unaccountable power by all those trillions of dollars they control. Nameless, faceless little bean-counters that can make and break private companies by filling out a form. That can change our de facto foreign policy by filling out another form. That can bend our elected representatives to their will by hinting about unfortunate ‘mistakes’ in their pension investments.
Bigness and centralization invite corruption, and corruption always accepts.
> de facto foreign policy
That’s exactly what they did in French Indochina, even against direct instructions from Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy. State did its own thing, and didn’t care who was in the Oval Office; they were just temporary occupants, and had no real understanding of geopolitics like *professional* civil service members had…
Actually, I wouldn’t have a problem with my military pension being converted to an equal value 401(k) type plan. I’d rather have personal control over my retirement investments than to continue to have to rely on Congress to manage it. Especially since Congress loves to not fund them when the budget comes up. That is, whenever they actually do their jobs and create a budget.
Speaking of 401k accounts… There’s been talk in the past about seizing them. I haven’t been paying much attention to the FICUS handler’s positions – – have they mentioned that one?
They have been very, very carefully NOT mentioning 401(k) accounts. But they have been making noises about a ‘wealth tax’ on the ‘rich’ — which includes everybody with ‘too much’ money (except the Leftroid elitists will somehow be exempt).
What it boils down to (in the frog-boiling sense) is they won’t just grab the 401(k)’s all at once, but drain them away gradually, hoping people won’t notice what they’re doing.
They don’t have any choice, you see. ‘The Rich’ don’t have enough money to make all their communist/fascist dreams come true, ‘The Poor’ don’t have much money at all, so they HAVE to take money from the middle class and small business owners. Without lube.
If you tried to run a business the way they run the government, you would be in jail or the poor-house within six months.
First thing to do is keep an eye on everything Congress is doing revenue-wise. The minute they mention anything that impinges on 401(k)s, 403(b)s, or other pension plans, we need an united front to hammer the crap out of the senators and congresscritters. THAT sort of action demands we not only confront them in public via the Waters Method, but to actually follow them everywhere so they can never escape us save to hide in their homes. Personally, I think applying Sharia Law to their thievery would be poetic justice.
They’ve already messed with non-spousal IRA inheritance. Might even have affected that. We really need to get with an estate planner. The whole point of the IRA (with 401(k) rollover) was to have the taxable amount when drawn out less to no more than we’d have paid if we hadn’t tax deferred the earnings. One of the reasons we never converted the IRAs to Roth when we were finally eligible because it would have tipped us into way higher tax brackets, especially during the Obama years.
Four buzz words need to watch out for: Pensions, public or private (already hit private), ROTH, 401(k), and our IRA’s.
The “beauty” of public pension plans is that they are, by and large, defined benefit plans, not defined contribution plans. The managers don’t have to worry much about the investments, or what they force the companies to do – if there is a shortfall, they just raise taxes to cover it. (There have been instances where a court has required them to do just that.)
Well, the CA unions stuck in CalPers might have a different opinion about decisions that dump huge amounts of pension fund value in return for nebulous non-quantifiable gains.
Never discount the political power of those unions.
Remember that the teachers’ unions are keeping schools closed despite its facilitating the escape of children from indoctrination.
CALPERS is heavily invested in China, too.
Most of those Chinese investments don’t actually exist.
Those ‘investments’ are funding the Chinese military buildup. As well as the bio-weapons lab in Wuhan. Fauci is a major investor in that lab…
Speaking of investments i China …
The doctor who denied COVID-19 was leaked from a lab had this major bias
Last year, as the China Virus was just beginning to spread across the US, I suggested in these pages that it might have leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. That’s China’s top lab for researching and engineering dangerous pathogens, especially coronaviruses.
No sooner did the story appear than it began to be attacked from all sides.
China issued heated denials, claiming the virus had jumped from bats to humans at the city’s seafood market. The lab a few miles down the road, Beijing officials huffed, had nothing — zip, zilch, nada — to do with it.
I was not surprised that Beijing tried to shuffle off its responsibility for the pandemic onto our little furry flying friends. I mean, the alternative was potentially being held liable for millions of deaths and countless trillions of dollars in damage to the world’s economy.
But I was taken aback when The Lancet, one of the world’s most prestigious medical journals, published a letter signed by “27 prominent public health scientists” that dismissed my lab origin thesis as a “conspiracy theory.”
They reported that scientists from multiple countries “overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife” and “strongly condemn[ed] conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.”
Then Facebook piled on, suppressing my opinion piece for weeks on end last year.
US Right to Know, an investigative public health nonprofit group, decided to look into the matter further. Through a public records request, they were able to obtain emails that show The Lancet statement was organized by employees of EcoHealth Alliance, which in turn has close ties with the Wuhan lab.
How close? So close that EcoHealth Alliance has received millions of dollars of US taxpayer funding to genetically manipulate coronaviruses with scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The drafter of The Lancet statement was none other than the president of EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak. Which means that the very statement that, for many months, shut down open debate on the possible laboratory origin of the China Virus, was actually the product of an organization that was collaborating with the Wuhan lab in the genetic engineering of coronaviruses.
I can’t remember who wrote about it, but…
The problem with some of the people at the tech companies is that many of the high-ups really have little idea of how the world works. Someone was writing about a conversation he had with one of these people, and the attitude of the twenty-something that he was talking to was one of dissatisfaction and boredom. The person in question got out of college, and almost immediately went to work for a big tech company making a ridiculous salary (obviously, this was not one of the ground-level programmers). According to the person talking about the conversation, it screwed up the twenty-somthing’s sense of how things work because this twenty-something never really had to go through a point in time where he (or possibly she) worried about dealing with a small salary. It was pretty much “out of college and straight to lots and lots of money”. If I remember correctly, the twenty-something had quit due to boredom (or something along those lines) not long before the conversation took place, and still didn’t realize what an amazing job had been given up.
Not only that, but a lot of ’em are spending venture capital so don’t even need to think about that pesky profit thing.
It’s play money. Their accountants will probably find a way to turn it into a net profit. Besides, they expect to be comped by the Swamp.
Who is getting killed here is the minionage at Zuckerbook and Twittler – they get stock, either options or stock purchase plan shares, in return for fealty, no complaining about the slave labor H1b strategy, and not unionizing. So much for that bargain.
Also, Dear Security and Exchange Commission: Please investigate large sales of Zuckerbook, Twittler, and Alphabet stock just before these actions; Thanks.
I would like to believe that what we’re seeing is accounted for by fear. But it seems just as likely to me that we’re watching the bullies giving free rein to their nastiest impulses based on the belief that they’ve won. That elections are over and they’ll have unchecked power forever and ever.
Please, persuade me I’m wrong. I want to be wrong about this.
Don’t look at me to persuade you that you’re wrong. But you could get some rose colored glasses.
I’ve lived through this in a Latin country. This is not bullying. It’s rank, naked fear.
I defer to your experience. I’ve only seen minor shadows of this kind of thing, mostly when passing through other countries. So I really don’t know how it begins.
I’m slipping your pov into my mind and hope it prevails. Very anxiously awaiting those with funds/knowledge/clout to start providing alternate tech and platforms to give the stinkers more to worry about.
We’re not a Latin country; we’re an Anglo-Germanic country. The reactions are… different.
There are also way too many people who are of the mindset “it can’t happen here” so they allow it to happen because they simply can’t believe it can and will.
LIterally heard this on the radio on Thursday. “It can’t happen here!” NO idea if he was being ironic.
It’s also, oddly, part of why there’s a problem– because a lot of the new push is… not standard culture.
They’re hacking manners, as has been observed before. Malware on proper expectations.
I think this is how my whole family got suckered into swallowing the narrative. They’re so confident that “this is America” means “it can’t happen here.”
But then I read the Sinclair Lewis novel It Can’t Happen Here when I was in high school (right about the same time as I read Heinlein’s Revolt in 2100).
ha…. Speaking of “hacking good manners”…
This is America. It can’t happen here.
.. but the kids are being taught in school that America is irredeemably evil and the source of all misery in the world.
… and the kids are still taught “All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” They watch superhero movies, they know that good people fight evil. (For given values of good and evil, of course; they might never be referred to in those terms.)
… so if the kids – who want to be good people – are taught that America – the country they were born and live in – is evil, how can it not happen here?
We’re mixed. (Hey, American!)
There’s been an extreme influx of Latin bully influenced behavior reactions, and worse plain old thug behavior, in the last 50-60 years.
Yeah, we had a big influx of Mexicans fleeing the Mexican government killing Catholics and such, but they were culturally different than the cartels-and-illegals we’ve had since at least the 70s.
I think this is the net effect of three or four (or more) generations of Ivy League grads seeing Europe as the model for all actions – they look at the disarmed postwar European reactions as templates.
Yeah, that’s really not Americans.
Honestly, *all* of these formats assume “disarmed.”
Especially the Cartel flavored thugs.
I’m afraid of that too. I think it’s probably both. They’re afraid because they know that at least half the country believes that they got their power through fraud. So I think a big part of it is the urge to censor and control the narrative. But they’re also giddy with power, because they think they took down Trump and can now do what they want. And as far as I can see, they’re not wrong, at least for the short term. Moves against their totalitarian actions are mostly going to have to work their way through the courts. Slowly. And the states.
It’s so predictable that the totalitarian leftist governors (I include Charlie Baker in that) are now talking about lifting the lockdowns. Most thinking people on the right expected that, of course. Months ago I said that I expected Covid to stop being an issue the day after the election. The “day” after the election was pretty drawn out, but it was essentially correct.
I didn’t expect it, because I expected them to just roll with any excuse to keep their command economy. But I’ll be really glad to be wrong about it if it rolls that way.
Same here. Whereas my husband predicted that COVID would be over as soon as Biden* was sworn in, and now he’s kicking himself that he didn’t persuade me to bet against him.
Actually, tbh, I did say “probably over the day after the election”, but I also said “unless they get addicted to the power”. But I think they also want to point to an improving economy and say “See, Trump destroyed the economy and Biden saved it”. Gag. So that weighs against extending the shutdowns. Also I suspect even crazy leftoids can see there might not be enough left of their economies to lord it over if they keep them shut down. And they do like their graft.
I think there’s a line for requisite craziness with some of them on the one side and one on the other–Cuomo vs deBlasio is a pretty good example. (“No! Wait, come back! We can talk!” “Nuh-uh, we don’t need those rich jerks, power to the people!”)
…of course, then you’ve got the folks who don’t seem to realize reducing economic activity reduces the amount of money they can play with, see Representative “how do we spend the money we’re not spending on Amazon tax breaks!” AOC. >.>
True. You do also have to consider that there’s a lot of stupidity. And people who really really aren’t good at anticipating the consequences of their actions.
This country has run a deficit every year since Eisenhower. Yeah Clinton claimed a surplus one year, but that was fiddling with numbers on paper and pretty much a joke.
So, every time you operate in the red you are diluting the currency. Basic fact of life that no one in Congress seems to comprehend, or if they do think it won’t catch up to them until they are safely retired with their ill gotten gains safely protected from their decisions. And let’s be honest. Election to high office is a license to get filthy rich by means that would earn a common citizen time in the pokey.
Harrumph. Experts with doctorates in economics, their quants, and the Treasury have assured us most expertly that this is both normal and perfectly OK, and that it’s possible to extend the deficit indefinitely with no problems at all.
What, you think you can run a country’s budget like balancing your home checkbook?
Richard Nixon outraged the Swamp when he went on TV and told the country The United States of America was heavily in debt and heading toward bankruptcy. And Congress ducked their heads and muttered “we can’t be broke, we still have checks left!” and ratcheted the spending up even more.
In fairness to Those Who Lie With Statistics, there is debt and there is debt, and the USA has too much of both.
There is Investment Debt, akin to mortgage debt, which is incurred in production of long-term assets, such as the Interstate Highway system, the Internet, various airports, bridges and other forms of infrastructure. Ideally* such debt is retired over time by various user fees, sinking funds and other devices. In some instances the debt may be deemed redeemed by associated rise in property taxes from enhanced areas, such as how the Brooklyn Bridge resulted in a boost in Brooklyn property values. Equally, the economic activity resulting from the Space Program is an example of indirect return o investment.
There is Necessary Debt, such as that incurred for emergency surgery of the family’s primary bread-winner. Spending on WWII is an example of this. Arguably this is a subcategory of Investment Debt. Not all such debt is truly necessary, of course, as evidenced by such examples as WWI and spending to prevent Climate Change.
Operating Debt, which occurs when your spending exceeds your income, is a disaster when it occurs beyond brief intervals, which is why politicians desperately endeavor to proclaim it Investment or Necessary debt … as if that would matter. Proper accounting practices would require all current expenditures be recorded at the Present Value of the incurred cash flows and that funds be set aside for such costs as pensions. That is one major reason the government will never indulge in proper accounting practices.
*Sadly, this world ain’t ideal, but you’ve probably noticed that else you wouldn’t be spending time reading here.
Governments can only print money; they can’t make it worth anything.
They can make it worth nothing.
All those years of Social Security running a surplus and tucking it all into that infamous SS lockbox.
Nobody bothered to remark when Congress saw all those piles of cash and decided to replace them with guaranteed official US gubmint bonds backed by the full faith and credit of the US of A.
Or as I like to say it: Mom and Pops raided juniors college fund piggy bank to buy beer and smokes and replaced the cash with paper IOUs.
I got curious the other day and did a search on current US debt. A site called the US debt clock reported the number as being 27.5 trillion dollars.
As many countries before us have found to their wonder and horror, there always comes a point at which those dealing in real goods will no longer accept your worthless paper (these days really just electrons in a bank’s computer) in exchange for their products.
Socialist Stupidity is the world’s biggest Ponzi scam. Has been since the 1960’s. I could see that when I was in high school. Of course, that was before the schools were so careful about teaching students not to think.
Nobody has so little that some asshole doesn’t want to take it. And the government is full of assholes.
I’m 55, and I have never in my life assumed I would get one thin dime from Social Security, or if I did it would be inflated into worthlessness anyway.
I’m 64. Figured the same. We each started collecting at 62. We were going to wait until age 70. But it comes down to getting the money now and saving what we’ve saved, until we have to pull it. Plus SS isn’t taxed by state, and not 100% by feds.
OTOH my primary examples (paternal grandparents, maternal grandmother, dad and mom) all pulled way more than they paid into the system. We always just pretended each pay check we were paying them directly.
Grandparents all outlived their “due to die dates” (95 paternal grandparents), for all that their combined SS was a drop in the SS bucket. Dad had a stroke at 50. Mom is still drawing as spousal SS, at age 86 …
There’s already a proposal to tax SS at 100%.
“Tax SS at 100%”?
Color me surprised! /sarcasm-jic
It is taxed at 100% at a certain income level. We are just below that level.
So much for only taxing the top 1% and not the middle class … /sarcasm-jic
“I got curious the other day and did a search on current US debt. A site called the US debt clock reported the number as being 27.5 trillion dollars.”
The worst part of that is, that debt amount doesn’t count pensions. Probably trebles the posted debt.
It doesn’t include the pending implosion of Socialist Stupidity, either. Nor what the
communists fascistsDemocrats have planned to add to it just this year. Can they hit 100 trillion, I wonder? I know they’re stupid enough, but can they actually pull it off?
At my house, the ‘things that go bump in the night’ are cats.
The editorial page of the Wall Street Journal saw and anticipated the irresistible temptations such piles of money offered politicians back in the Reagan Era when the “last” Social Security reform was contrived, and warned about it.
Scant good the warning provided. Cassandra seems more the norm than the exception in that profession.
Clinton also claimed he’d not had sex with Monica.
surplusreduction of the rate of growth of the deficit* was the work of Gingrich and his crew, and damned little credit they got for it — one reason nobody (at least, nobody not named Paul) publicly worries about deficits* any more.
*My fingers want to type that defecit, insisting the root of the word is feces.
If the supposed “spreads faster” mutation is not a figment of the Imperial College’s collective imagination it could be a problem, and expanded lockdowns are the knee-jerk reaction to problems like that so far.
The faster spread rate gets you more cases in a given time period as it burns through the population faster, so even with exactly the same hospitalization per infection and fatality per infection rates, a given area gets them in area hospitals in a much more compressed time frame.
Gee, makes you wish they had got everyone outside in the summertime when the commievirus19 variant was slow and the temperatures and humidity and sunshine meant even slower transmission rates, to get a larger subpopulation with antibodies.
But here we are in traditional flu season with a purportedly more easily spread variant on the loose in the US.
They certainly were giddy on Twitter with their plans to subjugate us forever.
I also expect Wuflu to go away after inauguration because this gives them the ability to say “see, we’re sooo much better at dealing with this pandemic.” But, yeah, it will remain in their back pocket for at least a little while as a means of locking down social control.
Yeah. They’ll use it as a threat, if nothing else. “Obey peons! Or we might have to lock you all down.”
Romanians in 1986 might have said that Securitate would be forever.
Actions are wrong for pure confidence. This thing with the n0k national guard in Washington risks possibilities like some Corporal foiling a Harris plot to assassinate Biden. That choice cannot be explained by anything but fear or incompetence too great to sustain a hold on power.
There is very little chance that the things they plan as remaining constant will remain constant, and the variation will probably not be linear, and hence not really foreseeable.
Really, really, sucks to be a lawyer now.
But it’s a wonderful time to be a judge! At least, if you’re a liberal judge.
Three years later, the Romanians in nine days went from overreaction to protests to the regime crumbling and a fire squad for the chief tyrant.
Yes, they did. But they also created a power vacuum that took years to recover from.
No. Because they’re not being rational.
Bullies would be gradual.
Heck, even in Portugal, the first face they presented was “we’re your friends.”
That lasted what? A day with this bunch?
And now they’re hiding behind fortifications and the number of lethally armed NG are up to 31k? That’s irrational fear.
I’m not sure the bullies are always gradual. This last week calls to mind the scene where the White Witch’s allies rush up to taunt Aslan once he is bound and on the Stone Table.
May the Deep Magic of this world operate as well as that of Narnia.
I remember that scene from childhood. Don’t know if I saw a tv version or just imagined it from my reading of the book, but I have had that EXACT thought this week. EXACT.
The GLEE, the FRANTIC FEROCITY, the WICKEDNESS all since the afternoon of Jan 6.
I do not think Trump is Aslan, not do I think the Lord will rescue us or return in a few more days. In the end, yes, but I do not think now is the end of time.
The story of totalitarianism is the monsters in power know you must tighten your fist and never ever let up. Loosen but a little and we will be free. They cannot ever loosen again. I believe everything now is quite swift.
“The GLEE, the FRANTIC FEROCITY, the WICKEDNESS all since the afternoon of Jan 6.”
They’ve try to keep their fig leaf of righteous moral outrage, but the reality keeps seeping through the mask.
Anybody catch Stephen Colbert’s unhinged ranting and raving where he says what happened on Jan. 6 was WORSE than 9/11? (because people weren’t making excuses or celebrating 9/11 – no Colbert you delusional shitstain, lots and lots of people on the left were excusing and outright celebrating 9/11).
I’m told Colbert claims Catholicism, but he seemed almost possessed.
Maybe somebody needs to put in a call for an exorcist.
A LOT of exorcists.
Honestly, most of them give that wiff. And many if not most (?) of them seem to be Catholic. I think the pope’s issues are trickling down.
Speaking as a Catholic, I think y’all non-Catholics are just bystanders caught in the crossfire of a spiritual war.
The devil ain’t too worried about non Catholics. He wants to destroy the true Holy Church, and he does that by corrupting or destroying visible, notable, famous Catholics including ones in the hierarchy. So yup, tlhe and his minions and those in line w him are everywhere right now, and they are busy: their jobs are to demoralize, scandalize, confuse, slander and deride faithful Catholics. (And we need to pray the Pope converts to Catholicism.) Everything else going on is really just a side battle to the real war. But like the Battle of Bywater, it’s the same fight.
“y’all non Catholics”? Raises the eyebrow. Cute. Very cute.
And “converts or dies” works.
*spreads hands* Given the stuff we end up discussing her so often, figured it was a sign someone hadn’t done their research; could be an attempted folksy approach that missed, what, two days ago you hammered on the theme of Don Camilo, or could be random drive-by.
He’s been here before.
“When an unclean spirit goes out of a person it roams through arid regions searching for rest but finds none. Then it says, ‘I will return to my home from which I came.’ But upon returning, it finds it empty, swept clean, and put in order. Then it goes and brings back with itself seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they move in and dwell there; and the last condition of that person is worse than the first. Thus it will be with this evil generation.”
Well that certainly sounds depressing.
Yup. But you don’t want to be blindsided when it does happen.
P.S. and I’ve been noticing a lot of people on the left are saying 1/6 as if they’re referring to 9/11 and even explicitly comparing the two.
The slow march through the institutions they have accomplished was the slow part of the bullying; now they fell confident enough to take the masks off and show their hatred and contempt for all wrongthinkers.
Imagine all the stuff Harris has done (and had done to her) to get where she is.
I don’t want to imagine what it’ll be like when she finally, fully, takes off the mask and does what she so dearly wants to do to…everyone.
Not even a day. Nearly every phrase is one sentence of “unity” being mouthed followed by threats to anyone who doesn’t do exactly what they demand. Hell it covers a lot of their actions before the election. They were, as you pointed out, willing to do anything to win, and what looked like over-confidence was prep to try and cow everyone.
Makes me think of Father’s exhortation from Equilibrium.
The glass booth and armed guards might be a little too on the nose.
And the child spies monitoring everyone.
Yes. I’m not a nice person – I am hoping that kid in Massachusetts meets the same fate as the Soviet “martyr” who turned his parents over to the KGB. (The other members of the family killed him. Rather gruesomely, if I recall the story correctly.)
Actually, the one thing historians agree about in that case is that the official story about why Pavlik Morozov died was a lie from beginning to end.
I’ve never seen this before. It makes me feel very scared. It looks like downtown Seattle.
I like it. It’s a bit more style than substance (follows the rule of cool rather than what’s practical or possible) and perhaps somewhat prophetic.
Like V for Vendetta it was made during the George W Bush years with that administration in mind, but ironically the totalitarian regime depicted is very applicable to what’s going on now.
And the same folks who made Equilibrium also made Ultraviolet, where the totalitarian state was formed in response to a pandemic.
Pandemics are very useful to those who want power.
It’s funny how they thought they were being so futury scifi in that intro clip with the fade from normal big city telephoto sidewalk view to telephoto sidewalk view with lots of masks, and the vo about the medical establishment taking it upon themselves to “protect” the population.
And only 14 years later, the Future is Here!
Still no hyperspace arsenal… darn it.
It’s a pretty good movie, underrated is the term I guess. I have the DVD, but I guess there’s blu-ray versions of it going around.
Equilibrium is one of the most underrated films of this century. The writer-director Kurt Wimmer is a libertarian, which is likely why his filmography is not an extensive one.
Though mentioning that movie reminds me of that last bit near the end… (er, spoiler alert, don’t hit play if you want to avoid that.)
…this won’t be without incident, I suspect.
I like this scene. It’s pretty minor, but I like the ramping up of tension and the sense that the hero’s in real trouble. And the Atlas image is a nice touch: gives us a glimpse about how the regime sees itself.
This is also a good scene.
I think it’s a show of power: We beat you, so now we CAN.
I’m not seeing fear. I’m seeing GLEE, and drunk with power.
Fear, that they had before the election was “settled”, when there was still a chance they’d lose. Now they’re sure they’ve won and that they cannot be dislodged from the high seat.
If there’s any wailing of “I was so terrified!” it’s only to justify more shows of power.
Yes, and no.
You do expect a certain amount of glee, and of lording it over. But I think Hostess is right, in this instance. This seems *too* focused. If they’ve won, as they claim, then they have nothing to fear. But instead, they’re rushing. They’re in haste to get it done. They need to get it done as quickly as possible, instead of taking the time to savor their victory.
They should be quietly prepping things like the Equality Act for passage. Instead, they’re talking about kicking people out of Congress for wrongthink.
It’s both. The show of power is because they’re afraid you won’t believe that they have power. They are also afraid of their own internal factions. I wrote about this elsewhere, but there is a concept in comparative politics called dictator’s dilemma. This is where the dictator is afraid of accurate information getting out, so s/he controls it. But that means that there is no accurate information coming in. Thus the dictator has to act on the basis of bad info. The other part of the dilemma is succession. The dictator does not want to name or create a successor because other factions will take up the cause of the successor and remove the current dictator or the successor. The dictator backs him/herself into a corner from which there is no easy exit.
Fear is projected in every direction, it’s what drives them.
The bullies were very gradual; it goes back to when some university student was first shamed for wrongthink, and has grown over the decades since. It’s only accelerated since the Shamed Generation wound up pretty much in charge.
They tried “we’re your friends” once or twice in the spate. It was never a unified day.
Embrace the power of AND. They’re bullies, AND they’re scared shitless. Not a good combination. They’re going to beat up all the smallest, weakest kids to teach everybody a lesson.
The Democrats are willing to burn America to the ground, so long as they wind up squatting on top of the ashes.
The thing that burns me about the cowards is that they will use someone else to bully and teach everyone a lesson. If the traitors would get their hands dirty in a fight I would give that action some respect. But they won’t. They think we are beneath effort.
“The Democrats are willing to burn America to the ground, so long as they wind up squatting on top of the ashes.”
YES. Perfect. They will giggle and coo like that little soy boy in Gladiator, watching his soldiers destroy slaves in the arena.
All bullies are scared. They put on a show of toughness against those they perceive as weaker than them because they are afraid of everyone.
They are bullies, and they are acting out– but it’s not confidence.
Not sure I’d call it fear, but it’s “smash down this thing” with an edge of frustration, because why isn’t this working already?
I (accidentally) caused it a LOT.
Which ties in to something I’ve started to wonder in the last day: What if they are so cocksure of what they think they know about us that their false flag is…. us. That the plan is to lure all the ultraviolent right wingers out where naturally they will do horrible things and provide the great excuse.
a) defund and abolish law schools
b) like hockeysticks will I trust these folks on anything
c) their appeal to democracy instead of ‘a republic’ is risible and offensive
d) They fundamentally misunderstand respect for rule of law, and are not competent to restore it, or really to oversee the academic study of law.
e) There had previously been a consent decree that restricted Republicans from filing suit on these matters. With that gone, more suits will be filed in the future. Which means that better procedures will be developed in the future. Effectively trying to forbid the litigation entirely does not speak of confidence as a field in being able to discover develop approaches to new problems. Can anyone point to similar statements with regard to Gore’s lawsuit, or Brown v. Board of Education?
Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2
Although I’ve been told (not sure if it’s true) that “lawyer” back then means something more like “legislator” then. But that applies too.
> consent decree
That’s a term I went all my life without seeing, until last year, when it started cropping up all over the place. Second City Cop first, i think.
The “consent decrees” I hear of often seem to step over the line from “private agreement” to “collusion”, or even “racketeering.” Not to mention “subversion of jusice”, like the one that let Epstein walk the first time.
I’m not sure they have any place in American law. At *best*, they duplicate existing processes of the courts. At worst… they’re secret agreements people affected by them may never know existed.
“Sue and Settle” is what it’s called and was first used a lot during the Clinton years, but really took off under Obama. A leftist activist group sues and its friends in the government then settle the case to impose policies that would never get legislative approval or be able to be issued as regulations without a lengthy process subject to public scrutiny. The case is brought before a friendly judge who will rubber stamp the settlement.
It is used in particular by Democratic Party run administrations where part or all of the legislature is not in their control so they can circumvent the legislature. In essence, it is rule through collusive agreements between activists and uncollected bureaucrats or elected Democratic Party President’s and Governors. This is how the Obama EPA shut down an Alaska gold mine and many other things that they did. The election shenanigans were just the latest iteration of this.
Sue and Settle effectively renders the constitutional system of government meaningless
Oh, the ACLU was employing that tactic back as far back as the Carter administration.
It’s also used to funnel money to all sorts of questionable causes.
Ah, like those forced “donations” to leftist causes that losers of big lawsuits had to do.
If by “losers” you mean people who do the math and realize they can spend a small fortune in settlement of a suit or spend a large fortune to argue in front of a jury of questionable provenance and take their chances with no hope of recouping their legal fees.
But at least in those cases they are suing private entities. When a governor or head of an agency invites activist friends to file a suit so they can enter into a “settlement” that circumvents the legislature, you have rendered the legislature’s existence irrelevant.
This is, per what I’ve heard of it, exactly how the “wolf reintroduction” scam was worked.
“Sue and settle” is how a lot of the “preservation” scams were funded.
They can’t do a thing, they let a friend sue them, they go “oh gosh we lose,” and they do what they wanted– while paying for court fees and expenses.
When your counter-argument to something you claim is “shut up.” 1) you aren’t particularly confident in your claim. 2) you are more interested in power than in truth. And since power ultimately flows from truth, it’s just a matter of time before power withers. It took 70 years for the Soviets to transform the fastest growing economy in Europe into largely 3rd world status. These days, things move faster. Monopolies are inherently unstable and it’s just a matter of finding the places to poke a stick in the spokes. Just stand back and let the gods of the copybook headings do their thing.
Venezuela beat that with their economy.
“Just stand back and let the gods of the copybook headings do their thing.”
I really like this, Steve. I’ve seen some insane with fear/anger reactions to some really mild stickers in my neighborhood. It looked as if the local communist used its claws to try to scrape it off plexiglass–shreds of “Trump” and “2020” all along the sidewalk.
I’m biding my time and letting them do their thing. I haven’t seen anything like this. Ever.
“Just stand back and let the gods of the copybook headings do their thing.”
They may not be competent at ruling, but they can do a lot of damage. I mean, how would “just stand back” worked for the Cambodians?
Or even more notable, Yellow Tiger Zhang’s “Great Xi Dynasty” may have only ruled Sichuan for less than three years before being overthrown… but that didn’t stop him from pretty much depopulating it in that time.
Knowing that “the gods of the copybook headings” will soon destroy them and their rule is small comfort when they murder you and everyone you care about in the meantime.
Exactly. “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers” may be correct, but it’s not much comfort if you live on Alderaan.
This. We may not have people able to wipe out a planet, but they’re certainly trying to disintegrate our country.
They already think they can just use artillery, airstrikes or (in the case of that twit Swalwell) nuclear weapons against anyone who rebels and I guess presume the surviving peasants will fall in line. They are idiots.
…I’d ask if they read history, specifically about Valley Forge, but I already know the answer is either “no”, or “but that was so long ago, things are different now!”
Nope. No different. Only the stage trappings change. People don’t.
I mostly agree with you, they are afraid, but totalitarian regimes always are.
Where you’re wrong is that this is not the end, it’s the beginning.
I’m from an ex communist country, the jokes were not shared publicly, but among trusted friends. No public dissent was tolerated. And if you didn’t choose your friends carefully any word would disappear you.
First public dissent was squashed, then people were. Cancel the speech then cancel the people, that’s the order.
I’m afraid you are just at the beginning.
And btw my people couldn’t believe this was happening either. No people ever did. Only the ones that have been “burnt” or have living family that did can believe it.
Americans are more independent than other people, but nowadays the fist they can put you under is also heavier…
I lived in a communist country (though the history says we never went beyond socialism.) I handcopied a copy of Gullag Archipelago because it wasn’t exactly forbidden, just impossible to find. It was also shockingly at odds with what we were being told about the magical USSR.
I submit to you that this is not the beginning. They are too scared for this to be the beginning.
They skipped the reich and jumped into the bunker.
BE NOT AFRAID.
“They skipped the reich and jumped into the bunker.”
They tried peddling the Reich back in 2016 and America wasn’t buying “The Permanent Democratic Majority.”
Another four years of Trump was on track to destroy them: no more Critical Racism, Free Speech & Due Process on campus, full exposure of their Russian collusion fantasy, an end to forced union membership? Their only hope for recovery would be to honestly represent the people electing them and they’d no longer any idea how to do that.
They skipped the reich and jumped into the bunker.
Unfortunately the analogy fails (even keeping in mind Col. DuBois’ warning), as gun isn’t being held to their own head.
Yet. Hitler didn’t shoot himself the first day in the bunker.
PRECISELY. We have a few months….
Also Reichfuehrer Merkel of all people told them to tone it down.
Wait… so someone with better video editing ability than myself can make one of those “Hitler finds out…” things using that scene from Downfall?
There used to be an online Downfall meme maker, which would insert the subtitles for you.
Yes. Actually there are sites that let you do that.
Thanks. I really appreciate your perspective.
Y’all worry too much. I am sure everything will be fine. Our new government is comprised of the wisest, best educated, most enlightened people on the planet and will soon bring America together again as ein volk.
DAMN IT RES. Beverage warning before you type that.
I thought seeing ‘RES’ *was* a ‘beverage warning’.
Seconded. My poor computer….
I’m sure it took a LOT of education to make them that stupid.
You’re the one who’s going to sing “Put On A Happy Face” as we all shuffle to the cars. And we’ll laugh really hard because of it. Thanks!
I’ll be singing a different one:
Well, at least somebody got it to work.
No, no, it’s ‘Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life’ 😛
(now to see if this works)
Sorry – the frogs have an injunction against my singing as it was giving them a bad name. Apparently there are expectations having to do with something called “rhythm” when you sing, and some other thing they call “key.” I don’t know what they’re going on about but I’m the sort of wallaby what likes to avoid trouble so I only sing things softly, to myself.
This wants some lyrics updated, but it goes to show that the more things change, the more they stay the same:
… How do I know? I read it in the Daily News
Seems like the whole damn world’s gone wrong
Saint Joe McCarthy is dead and gone
How do I know? I read it in the Daily News
Don’t try to make me change my mind with facts
To hell with the graduated income tax
How do I know? I read it in the Daily News
John Paul Getty is just plain folks
The UN charter is a cruel hoax
How do I know? I read it in the Daily News
J. Edgar Hoover is the man of the hour
All he needs is just a little more power
How do I know? I read it in the Daily News
Sometimes I murmur this, even if we now know that gender assumption is child abuse:
… What did you learn in school today,
Dear little boy of mine?
What did you learn in school today,
Dear little boy of mine?
I learned our government must be strong;
It’s always right and never wrong!
Our leaders are the finest men
And we elect them again and again,
And that’s what I learned in school today,
That’s what I learned in school
Admittedly, when Beloved Spouse & I are really ironically inclined, we’ve been known to bellow out this:
Hallelujah, Dads and Mommies
Cowboys, rebels, Yanks and commies
Buy yourselves some real red-blooded fun
If you want to make the grade
You’ve got to have a hand grenade
And a fully automatic G.I. gun
So buy a gun for your son right away, sir
Shake his hand like a man and let him play, sir
Let his little mind expand, place a weapon in his hand
For the skills he learns today will someday pay, sir …
CAUTION: in his intro Paxton endorses finger pistols, the warmonger!
You sure your finger tips didn’t spontaneously combust when you typed that?
He might not have hooves, nor horns, but anyone get a whiff of brimstone?
HEY! I admit I’ve been a bit wifty lately, but that’s from garlic, not brimstone.
Garlic is good. Don’t go into the kitchen without it!
“You been eatin’ onions.”
So we’re pretty sure Res is not a vampiric wallaby. Checks off a box on the list..
It sucks to be a vampire.
There’s a reason boar spears have lugs – to keep the boar from running itself through just to kill you. Likewise, there’s nothing as dangerous as a totalitarian personality who sees the power to inflict cruelty slipping through their fingers.
Got groceries to last a while. We’ll see what happens in the next few days.
I did not know that was what they were called or what they were for. Thank you!
I, too, have begun hoarding enough necessities to sit for a month or so and let things swirl. It should be enough.
*Knocks on wood.* I’m not near a capital, thankfully. But I don’t like the feeling in the air on the local news.
I’ve been prepping to “bug in” (mostly against The Big One) for a couple years. I just checked my pantry and freezer and I have enough to stay in the house for possibly three months, two if the power goes out, and I just recently exchanged the low one of my propane tanks so I’m prepared against the gas going out too. It might get boring, but if things get sporty in West Seattle I can stay out of the way for a good long time.
I’m reassured, thanks. Plus, there are lots of places to hide in West Seattle, and a couple ways out of Dodge should you need to go.
One thing to remember about circling the wagons – it means they aren’t going anywhere.
one upside is, they often fire inward
I quite agree with RES’ statement; ” Our new government is comprised of the wisest, best educated, most enlightened people…”
& of course the only reason 25,000 plus troops are in DC and razor wire’s all around it is we must protect democracy from the people!!
I would love for no one at all to show up. All that security for nothing. Doubt it will happen, outside of false flags there are too many full nutters around.
We already have someone trying…something:
“Va. man arrested at security checkpoint near Capitol with pistol, ammunition and fake inauguration credential” WTOP News: https://wtop.com/dc/2021/01/va-man-arrested-at-security-checkpoint-near-capitol-with-pistol-ammunition-and-fake-inauguration-credential/
Virginia…Virginia… Wasn’t that where Bloomborg bought the entire state government? Yeah, it was.
now seeing it was a security guy who is supposed to be working, the papers were supposedly not fake, though some quibbles over whether or not his pistol paperwork is up to snuff, and a cop decided his working papers were not correct, arrested him and let the court figure it out.
a single glock17 and 17rnd mag, 509 rounds of 9mm, and 21 shotgun shells (but no shotgun, guessing he grabbed a gun bag and headed out to work)
if you’re the new Fox News, or any of the other MSM
Oh, yes – I would love to see DC entirely empty – save for the Establishment Media sycophants for the FICUS (Fraud in Charge of the US) and Willie Brown’s Strumpet. Seeing them wall off the Capitol, and bring in so damned many troops that they have to sack out on the freaking floor … that is So Not A Good Look.
It’s East Berlin on the Potomac. It’s what they want.
I say we give them a wall and then keep them in there while ignoring anything coming from them.
And here’s what it looks like tonight (live from RSB). Yeah, my first thought was “somewhere behind Iron Curtain”.
I’m looking for Checkpoint Charlie.
Pick a street at random… it’s there…
RSB has another long ramble among the fences today, in daylight. Says pretty much none of their supporters in evidence. (Did find one.)
Fraud In Chief.
I hang out on some places full of the kind of people that give the Swamp the vapors. *Nobody* is planning to go to DC. The first “it’s a trap!” messages went up about three seconds after that poster went into circulation. I’m sure they’ve made a point of warning everyone they know in meatspace, too.
Any “armed patriots” that show up are going to be Antifa, generic crazies, or instigators paid by the Democratic Party and media. They may only get half a dozen between them, but between camera angles, recycling old footage, and CGI, they’ll have plenty of “armed insurrection!” to show.
Yep. We ain’t stupid. I haven’t seen any “let’s do it” from my local peeps.
Sorry, I don’t walk into something that says TRAP in 17 foot Billposter type,
That is Unity Wire, bigot.
Bob brings up an item that has been giving me heartburn as well – the “Democracy” chant, repeated frantically according to the daily guidance by pols and three-letter-media alike. The Congress is the “Sacred Tabernacle of Democracy”! Protest is “Attacking Democracy!” Expressing contrary ideas is bannable because Doing so is “Threatening Violence Against Democracy!”
IT. IS. A. FRELLING. REPUBLIC.
In which the sovereignty is vested IN THE ACTUAL PEOPLE, with a guaranteed right to express themselves and peacefully assemble to petition the government for redress. BECAUSE WE ARE THE SOVEREIGN IN THIS SYSTEM OF REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATION.
THAT. GOVERNMENT. WORKS. FOR. US.
No “sacred inviolable tabernacles of privilege”, no “only approved ideas allowed”, no “hate speech is terrorism is whatever we say it is when we want to ban it at whim”, and absolutely no “Thou Shalt Not Disrespect Your Betters”.
We’re Americans: We have no betters.
“RISE UP, MEN OF THE WEST!”
I could go into battle right now.
Stringing up the lyin’, cheatin’, murderin’ sons of bitches would be the very essence of democracy.
Mobs of concerned citizens lynching elected officials until the elected officials learn to behave themselves is inherently democratic.
The entire reason not to do so as a matter of convenience is that a republic runs by agreement to process, and commitment to that agreement protects both the rights of political minorities, and the over all stability of the systems.
The Democrats have been screwing around with us by trying to slide in shenanigans via democratic processes for some time.
Returning them some democracy good and hard, right between the eyes, would be perfectly reciprocal.
I have for many years waited it out, to address it in the next election. I think I have suggested that others do the same.
Being an idiot, despite calculating that fraud limits the utility of elections, I am still counseling the good points of waiting, and being very careful in what precedents we set. Waiting until the next election is not wise, but now is a little too soon for direct action. There may be ways to get rid of the electronic voting machines before 2022, that are not precedent as terrible as simply hanging the federal Senate, House, and Judiciary.
“Stringing up the lyin’, cheatin’, murderin’ sons of bitches would be the very essence of democracy.”
-And note that in a republic, a la the days of Gunsmoke, we have men like Marshal Matt Dillon to make sure mobs don’t do this and people get a trial.
Note that in the series run he did miss a few lynchings. One notable ep he knew most of the men in Dodge had been in on it… and also knew the guys lynched had tried to murder an innocent teenager a few hours before. He couldn’t officially approve, but so long as he couldn’t prove anything….
The lead editorial in today’s NY Post makes a useful point: if Donald Trump is really “a clear and present danger” why are they dawdling?
Nancy Pelosi’s waiting games prove ‘boot Trump’ movement is just another political ploy
Déjà vu all over again: For the second time in just over two years, Speaker Nancy Pelosi has led the House to rush through impeaching President Trump, citing an urgent need to rid America of a dangerous threat in the White House — and then turned around and dawdled in delivering the charges to the Senate for trial.
The House on Wednesday passed an article of impeachment charging Trump with “incitement of insurrection” for his role in his supporters’ Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. But on Friday, Pelosi refused to say when she would send it to the Senate, forcing it to drop all other business until the trial is done. “You’ll be the first to know when we announce that we’re going over there,” she haughtily told reporters.
The Shampeachment Two: Communist Boogerloo has/had propaganda value for them.
The senate chucking it in the trash, again, does not.
It’s because their target isn’t Trump, its the Republican’s in Congress who oppose the effort. Democrats intend to expel enough Republicans to ensure that they do not have to worry about compromising on radical leftist legislation and in the Senate to be able to get the 2/3rds necessary to ratify treaties.
They want CCP style one party rule and they want it now.
I have no betters, and damned few equals.
Unfortunately I think we are at the beginning, not ending stages of the totalitarian push/putch; yes they are afraid but all totalitarians are; what they really have at this time is the same sheer unbridled hatred that the most Nazi of the Nazis had towards Jews.
Yes – that’s the part that scares me – that the hatred is so unbridled. But it’s one thing to disenfranchise and “disappear” a traditionally-hated minority. Do that to half the country?
Interesting times, people, interesting times,
The armed half, which provides most of the essentials of life, no less.
Gee, I wonder what the voting split was for those 30k national guard members getting ready to stand around with firearms in DC?
Apparently you are not the only one wondering:
FBI vetting National Guard troops in DC over insider attack concerns
The FBI is vetting every National Guard member stationed in the nation’s capital for Inauguration Day after concerns of a possible attack from within the ranks.
The vetting process, spurned by worries from defense officials, was confirmed by Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy in an interview with The Associated Press.
”We’re continually going through the process, and taking second, third looks at every one of the individuals assigned to this operation,” McCarthy said.
I suspect the larger purpose is to purge the guard and the entire military of “wrongthinkers”, i.e. anyone not on board with leftist ideology, so that they can turn the military into their version of the Stalin era Soviet Red Army.
Why am I half expecting to see People’s Commissioners to oversee the military get installed, for State Sec?
Not a problem….since we no longer have the secret ballot. Although I’m sure being anything but registered Democrat is enough.
“The vetting process, spurned by worries…”
Layers and LAYERS of HIGHLY TRAINED language professionals, unlike those internet idiots.
I would like to posit a theory. Lets assume that the people leading the left aren’t lying about us, but are instead deluded and really believe what they are saying. That they really think that given a bit of stress the layers of civilization will break down and we’ll become the fascists they think we want to be. Furthermore, they are sure the stress is coming because we’re reaching peak everything, global warming, or whatever disasters are on the calendar.
When you are locked in a cage with a wolf there are two strategies. You can avoid upsetting the wolf, and hope it’s not hungry. Or you can try to ride it, which means you will surely upset him but he may not be able to do anything about it. Now, imagine you know that it will be a week until the zoo keepers are back to work to feed the wolf. What strategy makes the most sense?
You and I know that the wolf is actually a sheepdog, and that as long as you don’t try to ride him his vicinity is the safest place around. But they don’t. All they see is that most of the firepower is in the hands of their would-be enemies, more of the military is staffed by the same group, and that their cities are incredibly vulnerable. They know we’re discussing how an insurrection would play out in the US, and they assume we’re planning.
Or you can attack the wolf first, and strangle it. This appears to be the Left’s strategy, not understanding that it was the sheepdog, and that the REAL wolves are outside the cage.
Likely. We thought of 2016 as the Flight 93 election. They might see 2020 in the same light.
I’m reminded that there are small towns across Flyover Country that have no government whatsoever…. and get along just fine.
They assume the not-left is planning that because they know they are planning that – and projection is the lefts superpower.
Yes, sometimes paranoids are really being watched – but in the vast majority paranoids are just paranoid, seeing watchers where there are none, and they watch for watchers so hard that they themselves become the watchers.
The local edition of Pravda (NJ Star Ledger/Advance Media) is running head lines such as “For many in N.J., MLK Day holds special meaning after Capitol attack”, “N.J. National Guard prepared for any ‘armed march’ in capital”, “‘Cheap shot’ criticism of COVID vaccines for 2M smokers before other groups is ‘false narrative,’ Murphy says”, and “After Capitol riot, N.J.’s Sherrill worries there’s more to come: ‘I don’t think it’s over’ “.
The Democrats and their media arm are deliberately stoking fear and hatred, and are trying to stoke mobs that will go after their political opponents.
I’ve seen a couple of places where people are calling for the Republican legislators who dared to question the election results be thrown out. And… hmm. I’ve seen this before, and the answer to that is “Madame Guillotine eats her own in the end.”
I guess Illusion, by Paula Volsky, goes on my TBR list again. (It’s a magical hybrid of the French and Russian Revolutions, though of much shorter duration than either.)
Illusion is a frightening book.
And Volksy is a favorite. Yeah, that one bears re-reading, soon.
If I can untypo her name, that is… Geesh. I blame this keyboard.
I like that one as well.
They seized power because we got bored and complacent.
Mind you, many of our fellow travelers are as dumb as an equivalent bag of broken hammers; but the left hasn’t won as long as one of us remembers.
I drove out to the mountains this morning to get away from the ‘Rona and election fear and insanity.
People see you coming toward them on the sidewalk and immediately shove their face into the diaper. Everyone in full diaper alone in cars, walking across parking lots, on the street. Mild Trump and PedoJoe and the Hoe graffiti looked like they were scraped off with claws, with remnants strewn across the sidewalk.
I’m staying where I can watch them and get at my weapons, and watch the story unfold.
Agreed. I’m south of you a little bit, but I’m pretty concerned about Tomorrow, and the rest of the week, particularly with a protest scheduled for whenever the OR legislature actually begins to meet due to them locking the doors to the Constitutional right of the people to be in attendance.
We’ve seen what the State Police did in the last demonstration, but the addition of the National Guard turns the wick up a bit. I have no idea how the NG troops will a) be deployed, and b) how they’ll react.
Unfortunately, the OSP managed to throw away a bunch of good feelings through that protest. If they try much of anything over here, it could get more interesting then they’ll like.
(Reducing “moderately safe” to “neutral, keep my head on a swivel” and that’s in K-Falls.)
I’m trying to figure out if Despicable Kate will ease up on the lockdown or go full Nurse Ratched. Leaning to the latter right now.
Meanwhile Antifa continues its nightly riots in Portland attacking government buildings while using firebombs, etc., chanting “no borders, no walls, no USA at all”., and are deemed by the Democrats and their media arm to be “mostly peaceful protestors” who, if they get arrested, are let go without bail and without charges.
They don’t oppose violence. They oppose violence by anyone except their own paramilitary.
It’s a core Leftist belief that the Guard are crazed murderers who *love* shooting peaceful protesters, and are only barely held in check. Kent State, dude! It’s part of their basic cultural programming.
They haven’t been called out to defend anything. They’re being set up as patsies.
>> “They haven’t been called out to defend anything. They’re being set up as patsies.”
I wonder how that’ll play with the people in uniform they’re counting on to enforce their will…
A LOT of them are aware of what’s going on.
Burke: “You can’t make that decision! You’re just a grunt!”
And now the Burkes have taken over the government. The military will mindlessly do what they’re told because they’re just a bunch of grunts.
“Gentlemen! You can’t fight in here — this is the War Room!”
What do they care whate the uniformed dronesbabykillersslaves think?
I expect Leftist opinion is split (secretly, because presenting a unified facade is a secondary Leftist superpower). Some of them are “We’ll set the Guard up as patsies,” while others are “But now they’re OUR crazed murderers.”
Who ordered all those NGs to DC, anyway? I doubt the governors could order them to do this outside their own state’s borders, which means… Trump? I think he’s the only one who would have the authority.
Saw somewhere earlier that Antifa plans major street theatre in D.C. on the 20th, and IF it was Trump who did the ordering… might be “Fuck NO you’re not burning down D.C.”
RSB says they’ll be covering Trump departing D.C., and arriving West Palm Beach on the 20th. Let’s hope it goes that easy.
I know you know how to stay aware and stay prudent. This feels dangerous.
We’ll see what today brings, and then the theft official on the 20th.
You ever need anything you know I’m not far, and have zero issues navigating through the Seattle combat zone. 🙂
Aware, yes. Prudent? I am unsure. I am very (you could say stereotypically) Irish. However, I’m going to work this week with a a few more things with/on me than I have since the faux-lection.
Has anything popped up? I was able to go to a real service this morning – 500 odd people and two masks. Since then, I have been spending time with the kids and buying freedom pills (Ranier has boxes of 900 pill Aussie ss109) and getting stuff for our home.
I think one of the things that has come to mind is that it doesn’t matter if they come today, tomorrow, or in a year – I need not fear those who only kill the body. And so every day is just another day where I do the best I can, and the Devil may have what’s left. .
Temperamentally prudent might be a better way for us to say it.
I walked down through Edmonds to the water yesterday. Every single person diapered up. And, when they weren’t diapered, and they saw me coming on the sidewalk, they grabbed the diapers and held them, strapped them on, fussed and diddled…. It was disgusting. I wanted to throw them all off the sidewalk into the street. Two people actually cowered when I came too close. They just turned like frightened animals and huddled against the wall. Outdoors.
And my church? Full diapers, no exceptions, and I can’t go because of it. My pastor called pneumonia yesterday “covid pneumonia.”
If I can keep a clear heart and a calm mind in the days to come, that will be victory.
Funny thing is, the last time I was out, driving to and from an appointment midweek here in the Valley of Silicon, I saw not one single mask worn in a car, in contrast to prior excursions. And we’re in a warm spell on the west coast, with daytime highs in the 70s, and on that drive I saw a lot of folks out grabbing what Ds they can at these low sun angles, a few in masks but many not.
Encouraging signs in Gavin’s Glorious Hairgel Bear Flag People’s Republic.
I collapsed today and slept 3 hours. I saw my brother yesterday for lunch. It was a lovely respite. Yea– the timeline is rushing so quickly, the last week, wow I can hardly wrap my head around it. Already into the bunker phase? It usually takes years to get that point.
We know how popular and eloquent an orator Biden is. I would love to see the National Guard contingent. outnumber the visitors to the inauguration. That would show everyone how much love and trust there is between him and the American people.
Although normally I have no use for Nietzche as a philosopher, occasionally he got a few things right.
“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.”
The left has spent so long trying to portray Trump as a totalitarian monster that they have become the very image of what they wanted us to believe he was.
they project more than an Imax. That is why always claim the right is gonna come haul everyone away. It’s what they want to do, so obviously the other side must wish the same.
The media and the leading Democrats were so busy screaming “Gotcha”, over every little thing that Trump did, never mind that it contradicted what they were saying yesterday, never giving him credit for anything good, and so busy ignoring Democrat pecadillos that they were unwittingly proclaiming every day with every broadcast that they didn’t give three straws for the truth. The only thing that mattered was partisan advantage. So when they think they have a little power? They spike the football in the endzone and do a victory dance on the opposition’s face. That’s going to make them *so* *very* *popular*. However, this isn’t football and it’s not the end of the game.
Lack of crowds for Biden inaugural will be declared PROOF of how civic-minded Biden’s supporters are, refraining from attending the inauguration to prevent any sort of COVID super-spreader event.
Besides, the important people will be appearing on the Celebrating America program that evening, hosted by Tom Hanks, featuring remarks from Biden & Harris and performances by Demi Lovato, Justin Timberlake, Ant Clemons and Jon Bon Jovi (all of whom are doubtlessly donating their standard appearance fees in exchange for tax deductions.)
It is even possible that there will be cutaway shots of cheering audiences …
No matter what happens or doesn’t happen at the inaugural, the press will be sure to declare it as a positive for Biden. What the press says about it doesn’t mean a ***** thing to me. Let them fawn. Me, I have a mind to take names of who actually gets appointed and confirmed to what in the administration. Since I can’t tell which speculators and prognosticators (if any) have their heads screwed on straight, I prefer to wait until it happens.
I am confident Joe Biden will be the most unifying American president since Jefferson Davis – and will proffer the same sort of unity.
Dinesh has some good insights on this Impeachment 2.0 circus:
Nemo just died. We just had the Compassionate Care folks put him to sleep. It was time.
oh dear. Condolences to y’all.
I’m so, so sorry…..
I’m so sorry as well – our little stray terrier mix (found on the street in our neighborhood a few years ago) – is also called Nemo. Because we found him. He sleeps at the bottom of my bed most nights. (Hugs)
*virtual hugs* You made the right call. *another hug* That doesn’t make it easier.
Ow, that always hurts. I think it helps to remember that you gave him a good life. Remember all the times he was happy. All the times he gave you that “Where’s my supper?” look, and then buried his nose in the bowl. All the times you rubbed his fuzzy little head, and he purred. That was the life he remembered.
Barked. He was people food fiend. You’d have to defend your food. We didn’t have defined meal times. We had kibble out 24/7. He begged and occasionally stole food. He also was a canine roomba. He also barked a lot.
On the other hand, he howled along with the tornado sirens…. which woke us up a couple of times when we didn’t hear them.
So sorry to hear it.
I am so sorry. Hugs, honey.
That is sad news indeed – my condolences.
I don’t know that the Democrats stole the election, but I do know that they’re acting like they stole the election.
The thing about America is that it’s a self-similar country. By and large Americans don’t need direction. The Democrats don’t seem to realize this. They’re acting as if they believe that once they grab hold of all the ways to pass directions to Americans we’ll just fall in line. They don’t realize that once the directions start being actively harmful we’ll just stop listening to those directions.
At some point the Democrats are going to cross a line and a bunch of states will declare that they aren’t going to listen to the federal government anymore. Once that happens large chunks of blue states, like upstate New York and the west coast that isn’t within spitting distance of the ocean, will follow suit. At that point the Democrats are done.
Expelling red state representatives would probably be one of those lines. After all, if you’re going to be treated like you’re seceding anyway, why bother putting up with the stupid dictates from DC?
Why bother seceding? Just stop all cooperation with Feds on every level. Lose the codes to transfer Federal gas excise taxes to the Feds. Somehow always fail to effectively comply with Federal court orders. Aggressively enforce traffic laws on all Fed vehicles. Through administrative error, have every known Federal vehicle get one of those wheel-lock thingees.
After all, the sanctuary city thing has absolutely established that active non-compliance to the point of conspiracy to obstruct Federal law is all just high spirited free speech and absolutely is no justification for withholding Federal funds.
Because it still gives them power over things like defense and the courts and it allows them to veto the changes necessary to unwind their tyranny.
They really don’ t like Texas. They might do something aggressively stupid.
Because Texas is the single biggest threat to their power. It represents an alternative nexus of power, which means it must be destroyed if they’re to have any security.
It’s the same reason they spent decades destroying America, just in microcosm.
They certainly have enough House members who want to be aggressively stupid. AOC said today that southern states aren’t “red states” they suppressed states that need to be “actually liberated”. So apparently the Democrats intend to treat states they don’t control the government of as being outright enemies that must be conquered, presumably with the use of force.
So, basically, she wants the fed to invade red states and overthrow their governments?
I’m guessing there’s no point in explaining the term “casus belli” to her? Because if anything would start the boog faster than gun confiscation…
Probably she will claim that they are guaranteed a republican form of government.
Not the first time Yankees had that opinion.
Don’t you be calling that delusional commie twit a Yankee. Real Yankees fought against everything that dingbat stands for.
Projection like World War II searchlights. They believe that the ‘red’ states only have red state governments because of massive GOP vote fraud. If the voting were honest, they’d be blue states like Colorado, Washington, and California.
Ooh, can we really get them to believe that? Because maybe then we could get Democrats behind fixing the election process.
This is pretty much what I’m thinking too. Massive noncompliance at every level. Or excessive compliance aimed at the Federal enforcers. Remember, they’re the ones behind walls. Starve them out.
They are going to cross that line much sooner rather than later because they simply can’t help themselves.
That’s what I think. There is some hope in that the Democrats cannot afford a single defection in the Senate. There’s a possibility – albeit a slight one – that someone like Manchin will stymie their attempts to do away with the legislative filibuster and keep them from ramming the worst of their agenda down our throats.
Sherrod Brown or Jeanne Shaheen slip in the shower and Dem control evaporates, even with a RINO replacement.
I guess it depends on how confident the Democrats are in their ability to steal the 2022 elections. They may be willing to wait a bit rather than risk pressuring someone who could change parties and put Schumer back in the minority leader’s chair.
Arizona Senators Sinema & Kelly seem inclined to
view their seats as insecuretheir function to entail working across the aisle and do not want to commit political hari-karibreak trust with their voters.
If Gavin Newsom’s recallers succeed and replace him – as seems eminently possible – with a Republican governor, Diane Feinstein’s seat is no longer secure.
Fun times, fun times.
Some of us here in Montana are discussing a recall for our Blue Senator, which considering the rest of the state tipped hard red for every office, would result in replacing him with a reliable R (appointed by the governor). We’ll need 15% of voters to sign on.
And if we succeed… that tips the Senate.
That would so good!
I believe US Senators and Congressmen can’t be recalled, since their term is fixed by the Constitution with no provisions for shortening that term other than expulsion by their respective house. Barring a Constitutional amendment, of course.
Yeah, we’re still wondering about that. But recall procedure, according to the party of the other ire, is in our state constitution. So at worst it ties things up and makes a mess, and anything that disrupts Congress right now has to be a plus. Make ’em busy doing things besides passing the crazies’ agenda.
“Excuse me, but have you heard of the Great God Mota?”
Apparently on thedonald there is someone spamming and claiming to be a banned mod.
Their story? That TDW is compromised and the mods are trying to suppress people going to the completely legit flags of questionable provenance.
I am quite proud of myself for getting through that sentence while maintaining a straight face.
When the media nowadays starts sounding like ADVENT from XCOM2, especially the broadcasts that happen when you finish a mission, I do get a bit worried. (If you stop an ADVENT Retaliation mission where they try to kill a bunch of civilians in a settlement, you often get the totally-not-a-villain Speaker sadly announcing they found a remote settlement wiped out by XCOM. If you kill a general, they claim it was some sort of social worker who was callously murdered by the resistance, etc.)
When they demand two -divisions- of soldiers to fortify the Capitol of the USA into some sort of weird FurorBunker,
they are afraid.
Or trying to impress us with how much force they can bring to bear if we disobey.
[counts heads and iron muzzles outside the wall, laughs maniacally]
….I’m supposed to be impressed?
DAMMIT the memo needs to go out before the spectacle!
How much ammo did they give the NG?? 1 20 round mag, or 3?? If they were attacked what happens after they run out of ammo?? Are they prepared to deliver more??
Just like at Waco, the ATF was happy firing at the building until they realized that they were running out of ammo. They then moved VERY FAST to ask for a cease fire, which the BDs gave them since the BDs had been trying to get a cease fire since the firing started.
If the BDs had wanted the ATF dead they would not have made it out of the cattle trailers also they would NOT have agreed to the cease fire and would have counter attacked and killed or taken them all prisoner.
The government learned nothing from Waco.
I assure you, the Army and NG has all the ammo they can fire, and plenty more in the logistics pipeline. If Private Snuffy only has one magazine, his superiors have crates of them ready to hand out. And plenty of belted rounds for the machineguns.
Don’t think that the forces of good and Liberty win just by showing up, or by stupid acts of head-on armed confrontation with military forces.
Don’t give them reason to see you as the same insurgents they have been destroying elsewhere for 20 years. (Yes, the NG have been playing whackamole too.)
Oppose tyranny -smart-.
Yes, they will shoot. Yes, they have -plenty- of ammo. Don’t get sucked into slapping that Tar Baby. The would-be tyrants are -counting- on the would-be free to be epic Stupid and shoot up and piss off the Army. And die of it. Then that justifies the crackdown on the short schedule.
Make those uniformed folks your friends and allies, those you can. You will need them, later.
Don’t slap the Tar Baby.
Don’t the guys with guns.
Disable the supply vehicles.
Freezing and starving *suck*.
Gen. Winter.. can be an ally.
Don’t SHOOT/HARASS the guys with guns.
I keep hoping for a giant east coast blizzard for the 20th.
If you look at the unit list ( https://victorygirlsblog.com/national-guard-at-the-capitol-what-could-go-wrong/ ) there’s not a whole lot of kinetic capability outside of the Stryker BCT from Pennsylvania and the NJ Infantry Regiment, with only the former having any institutional combat deployment experience. Other than that a lot of MP units as one would expect, the engineers, and then the air stuff, both drone units and the tanker and F-16 squadrons – that latter is weird, as anything stationed from Georgia to NY could fly CAP over DC with the tanker orbits set up, and there’s fighters stationed at Andrews, so I’m not sure why they needed to deploy the F-16s instead of just flying from their home station.
But as noted on a story linked by Insty, that’s more troops deployed to DC than are currently deployed to Afghanistan.
Yeah….. air support is a weird choice, even if you fully buy in to the magaterrorism angle.
But then there seem to be a lot of downright bizarre choices being made here.
The unit choices say the DoD/generals are not really worried about a “coup” – or they are setting one up. Nothing on this list could stand up to a Thunder Run attack by heavy armor into DC.
MPs all do the riot control training, and I’m sure the entire DC NG does as well. This is pretty clearly a civil disturbance OOB.
And re air – since 9/11 DC has had a LOT of air defense stuff installed in hidden positions. Anyone trying to get something airborne through the existing defenses would likely be a flaming hole in Maryland or Virginia quite a ways out.
that’s why deploying ANG F-16s makes no sense at all – I mean, they have 1st Fighter Wing F-22s, with a third of those jets in service, based right frelling there at Langley.
F22s are optimized for air2air still. F16s have evolved to multirole. They are probably flying configured for ground attack, or maybe carrying some nonstealthy mission pod. Recon? Radiation mapping?
NJANG 177thFW flies the F-16C, but NJANG article at https://www.177fw.ang.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2473027/177th-fighter-wing-mobilizes-airmen-to-support-dc-national-guard/ says they are sending “Airmen from the 108th Wing and the 177th FW” i.e. warm bodies, which makes more sense than deploying jets from NJ to Maryland.
My guess is some Guard commander saw an opportunity to get his pilots some flying time on somebody else’s budget.
“Say, how about air support, you guys probably need that, don’t you? Sure, I’ll need you to pay for the fuel and the flight hours bonus … How many planes you think you’ll want? You’ll cover my mechanics overtime for that, right?”
I wonder if they will authorize a medal for these folks – maybe the “Standing Around In Defense of Panicked Politicians Cowering In The Basement” service medal.
Well, it is the Army.
Apparently, what happened is that the “National Guard Bureau” sent messages to the 50 governors, saying, “Hey, we need some extra guys, so send DC a few hundred or whatever.” And so they’re sending 200, 400, 800, 1000 from each state, but not a lot. And they’re not sending anybody they think they will actually need, because the several governors are all protecting their state capitols, agency office buildings, and other state resources with their state’s National Guard.
So it’s a mixed bag.
The normies are worried. I made a joke about cheese, dictators, and Julius Cheeser, and the temperature dropped about five million degrees until I bulled through to the punchline. Ouchhhhh. So yeah, gotta say that normal American people are afraid.
OTOH, people thought it was abnormally funny when the punchline released the fear.
Hooboy, I am glad I was not lynched by patriots today. Forbidden joke subject.
APPARENTLY Amazon has banned the sale of the Turner Dialogues and anything else relating to a revolution in America.
I presume Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar is next; actually all his “history” plays.
“I am glad I was not lynched by patriots today.”
I admit to being somewhat bemused by all the cries of “Unpatriotic!” from the people usually most quick to demand, “Do not dare challenge my patriotism!”
Or the ones saying that patriotism is synonymous with white supremacy.
Now, wait, I thought patriotism equated to insurrection!
You can’t tell that story and NOT tell us the joke!
Oh, I just said that we need a dictator that will make sure we all have cheese.
I specialize in horrible and noncontroversial jokes, because people need to laugh more. This one is good for little kids who are just about school age.
Why don’t they let dinosaurs drive?
Because Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Julius Cheeser? I used to crack jokes of that quality, back in my salad days.
My first thought was suburbanbanshee has gotten a hold of Boy’s Life (or whatever it’s name is now) magazine.
OrAnd has scouts and campfire advising. Just saying …
Boy’s Life was the original source of some of my favorite jokes. 🙂
Noah lands the ark on Ararat, and tells the animals to go forth and multiply. A while later, two snakes come back. “What’s the problem,” says Noah, “I told you to go forth and multiply.”
“We can’t,” say the snakes. “We’re adders.”
I told that one once and someone added this bit:
So Noah handed them some pieces of wood and told them, “Ah, but even adders can multiply with the aid of logs!”
I am not going anywhere tomorrow. I won’t even let the cats out. No matter how many dirty looks they give me. 😛
you mean they don’t otherwise give you dirty looks?
I question their cathood! (~_^)
I’m going to church tomorrow but that’s it. I hope things will be calmer by next Saturday.
And not because they’ve killed a lot of people.
Unity! (or else)
I have been assured repeatedly by the best minds that all insurgencies are honorable and worthy of the support of all right thinking persons.
As we’ve ALL had recent occasion to learn, you can RELY on the experts.
Other than the joke thing, the atmosphere at work was good… but the eggs and milk folks were out, making sure they loaded up everything. And I’m pretty sure the “polar vortex” is not what’s worrying them.
Of course, a lot of people are not shopping at Meijer’s, to send a little message to Peter Meijer (supposed-R), so of course we got more business from that.
Shrug. Gotta work this week. Gonna try to be soothing to nerves and avoid any of my urges to dark humor.
The main thing is that of course we’re a military town, and a lot of people have kin and friends in the National Guard, and there’s a lot of support for Trump. So of course people are worried. But I don’t think I’ve ever seen people being quite so stoic before. Ohioans don’t usually hide their feelings much, although they are polite. This is like “Jesus might be coming, everybody look busy” stoic.
And the annual MLK “peace bridge” thing got canceled/became “virtual,” allegedly for COVID reasons, but really for “we don’t invite BLM and Antifa to our Dayton stuff, and we don’t want to become false flag corpses” type of reasons.
Iowa, day AFTER the “blizzard” was fully clear, the only thing I saw lacking was the dark red kidney beans.
Vast over supply of the (on sale) beans in chili sauce.
But husband, in a gov’t involved building, was asked to take his work computer home just in case for next week….
And I here i thought the masks had come off when Trump was *elected*. So now we have that fearless champion* of civil liberty, the Lt. Governor of Pennsylvania, claiming that the First Amendment doesn’t cover allegations that there was anything wrong with the vote counting in in that state. Spoken like a man confident** the truth will come out. Benjamin Franklin would be proud***.
*** must be spinning in his grave.
Yep. They’re trying so hard.
And it’s almost even worse (because there are always idiots saying idiotic things) that it’s “reported” without anybody saying how ridiculous and wrong it is by the Democrat Media complex.
It’s a pity there are no journalists in Pennsylvania to ask just where, in the First Amendment, that exception is to be found – if only for the amusement of seeing mental gears stripping.
There is one thing I’ve noticed over the past four years. Read through your copy of 1984, especially the Two-Minute Hate. You’ll notice a definite similarity with how the anti-Trump crowd behaves. The only real difference is that the anti-Trump crowd has been wallowing in a Two-Million-Minute Hate.*
Not only has the Lunatic Left run out of room to escalate its rhetoric, I have to wonder about the effect of a two million minute hate on the mental health of those who have indulged in it. Studies have shown that people who fix their minds on a particular state actually grow brain cells in the areas that govern that state. Monks who meditate on becoming more compassionate actually grow new tissue in the areas of the brain that are active when people are feeling compassion.
So what is the result of steeping a human brain in hate for nearly half a decade?
* A year is about 31.56 megaseconds, or a little more than half a million minutes.
My usual snark is that Orwell was an optimist. Progs don’t have “Two Minute” Hates, they have near constant hatred and seething at whatever Emmanuel/Emmanuelle Goldstein is pointed at and every once in awhile they might take about two minutes to catch their breaths before engaging in the seething hatred once more.
(Also, Sheev Palpatine took a look a them and thinks they need to calm down a lot.)
Like any addict, they have abused hate to such a degree for so long that they have developed resistance and gone numb, no longer feeling that emotional rush they did when they were first hating. As a result they have to hate harder every time to get that feeling again.
That’s why we see the public acting out of their hatred, and why they use that hatred as the gateway to violence.
Think of every BLANTIFA as a serial killer under development and you won’t be far wrong.
The Twenty-Four/Seven Hate.
Orwell’s error (if such it is) lies in not anticipating the religious fervor underlying hatred of the heretic.
Do heretic and hero have the same root?
Heretic is ultimately from Greek “hairein,” to take, to pick up, and hence, to choose, and a bunch of other meanings.
Hero — they don’t know where that comes from. Probably a pre-Greek word. But the general idea is associated with being a demigod, or as good as.
What if there was a blackout in Washington DC? How much would the Leftroids panic?
It helps to understand the fracas, in that we get the politics that we choose. We consent. In the absence of moral framework we flounder. If a solid cohort chose to adhere to the virtues, all this crazy would vanish. We are ruled by the rich. Whom use foolish scientisms to whip us.
The enemies of Morgoth realized they were being deliberately made to fight amongst each other. Once the good align, the walls of Angmar can be brought crashing down. [Silmarillion]. Or, was it Burke, said something like, when the bad combine the good must associate or be picked off one by one.
Rare indeed are the examples in history of people who became more free without paying for it with the shedding of blood.
It has happened. To some extent, if you read carefully, we did become more free after FDR’s depredations, and again when Reagan took over.
But This time I believe it’s unlikely.
TBF few people have become more free AFTER paying for it in blood too — looks over at Europe. So, freedom is the exception, and curse those who would forsake it for enforced equality.
Curious, seems I am not allowed to post over at MGC. Trying this to see if I can still submit a comment here.
And works here and now on MGC. No idea what happened, but due to current conditions I am a bit paranoid.
I do wonder if some a.i. work is being done. WP has been even more stupid acting as of late.
And yeah, we all are. Son came up from basement lair to get his glasses in the middle of the night, and tripped on a pile of flooring boards (our best security right now is that the house is full of piles of crap.)
Well, I was up and in the hallway with my …. flashlight so fast I almost gave him a heart attack.
NOT normal conditions.
“What, this? It’s just a tactical flashlight holder.”
Canadians say “Excuse me sir, but is that an -assault- flashlight?”
Why yes, it is. 6-cell Maglight, bitchez. Beware, eeeviledoers.
No civilian has any valid need for a 6-D cell mag light. Only highly trained professionals should be allowed to own such. The general public should only be allowed 2-AA lights, with a lumen limit and no shoulder thing that goes up.
No longer satire, Mike. Not since the Great Knife Ban in Britain. Some Lefty jackass is thinking that right now. (We know you lurk here, dickheads.)
Maglights are super edgy now. Mine even has a neoprene sleeve with a strap on it (because winter is cold here) which takes it to a whole other level of Super Eeeevile Assault Thing!!!!11! Eleventy! Straps are evil!
I mean, does a civilian really -need- a 6-cell flashlight? Handy for finding a black poodle on the front lawn at night if he won’t come when he’s called. But then that’s a real live Super Eeeeevile Assault Poodle, which is a whole other can of worms. (Does anyone need a dog bigger than ten pounds?)
He murder/death/killed an innocent bunny! The horror, the horror!
I actually have one of those. 😀 Also flashing it into someone’s eyes WILL disable them briefly.
Yes, it certainly will. It will immobilize them even if they are so wasted on drugs that they think your house is their house. More than long enough to do anything you want to them.
Some of the newer ones have LEDs that are even brighter than the filament ones of yore. And you can upgrade the LEDs if you are medium competent with a soldering iron. Uh oh, Mr. HomeInvader.
OLight. 2300 lumens. 600 metre spot. Fits in your pocket (if you’re a dude not in skinny jeans) or purse. Or whatever Orvan uses to carry stuff.
yeah. I have no idea. I don’t presume they have banned you because they ask.
HOWEVER every so often WP decides to ban someone. Kirsi-Marja hasn’t been able to post here in years. And B. Durbin couldn’t post at MGC for some months.
This is all nice and everything, but I’ve been assured that the enemy is in complete control and has no fear of anything.
Your on the ground experience in nothing compared to the wisdom of someone who spent their entire life avoiding learning how the real world works.
May I recommend that you post something every day, even if it’s only a, “Still here. Busy” message. At least that way we’ll have reasonable assurance they haven’t taken you to the camps.
This is my still here. I’m answering comments. I need to put up the promo post, but was delayed.
Proof of life! Aieeeee!
Fear = we are winning.
None of those prominent on the left go out in public. Dorsey? Gates? Pelosi?
Protest on 1/6 was trivial compared to Minneapolis, Portland, etc., etc. But the response is to make DC and state capitols armed camps.
Stoke the fear. Feed the paranoia. Mock them. Taunt them. Doxx them. Publicize their location/travel.
They are detested. We are around every corner. Mayors? Media personalities? University officials? Corporate apparatchiks? Keep them isolated, holed up in their castles.
Be smart. Be safe. Don’t do anything stupid.
(If you’re wondering, I’m not really here.)
Yeah. Mark zuckerlizard has told people not to wear FB gear….. Yeah
Anyone sufficiently proud of working at Facebook or Twitter to wear their logo casually is giving evidence of severe psychiatric disturbance and needs to be committed for observation.
Committed TO observation. From a long way away. Probably at 18x. With minimal wind.
I dunno. It’s probably a good strategy for picking up women. Especially shallow women who like selfies and dream of finding some kindly rich guy who’s not home very much, and who has great credit.
So…. exactly the kind of women that one should avoid.
Most of the pick up artist, dating-as-hunting tactics select for mates that one should avoid, turn even normal targets into someone would should avoid, or “yes.”
I think you accidentallyed one of those sentences.
SOmeone one should, meh
Actually Twitter and Facebook draw their employees from Ivy League and oher upper crust colleges, the interview process is very competitive, and they’re generally proud of working for them. So you have a bunch of indoctrinated college students making really good salaries, and they’re pretty convinced that they’re better than everybody else. They’re almost universally woke, arrogant, and well off.
and in need of psychiatric observation.
I get the occasional recruiter nibble from Facebook and even Google. I say, “No, thank you. You wouldn’t like me, I’m not your type.”
On January 6 they were threatened, the things of value to them were attacked, the symbols of their power were assaulted!
What are a few burning police cars, police stations, courthouses, and hundreds of private businesses compared to that?
Trivial, he says!
“On January 6 they were threatened, the things of value to them were attacked, the symbols of their power were assaulted!”
I stand corrected. Not trivial. An enormous, wonderful, positive development!
I’ve been saying the same in private: this smells like the TAIL END of the Soviet Union (which I lived through). Yuri Andropov’s reign, to be precise. What we don’t yet have because we came at it backwards is a well-organized black market and trusted circles of friends (although we’re getting close on the latter, I think).
A present from Gropin’ Joe to the rest of us… sneakin’ things across the border:
Hi, I’m someone who happened across a link to this site. While I appreciate seeing the perspective in the posts and comments here, I disagree as to the reality of the situation. As a note, I am a Democrat, though I would not consider myself either woke or communist (at least under my understandings of the terms, I’m opposed to both) — rather I’m aligned with them because I support a stronger social safety net, increased legal immigration, gay marriage, and an end to tariffs. There’s plenty of things I want, such as foreign policy that actually attempts to do something about China’s crackdowns in Hong Kong and Xinjiang, or a wholesale reform of the FDA, that I don’t think either party is very likely to achieve, and though I dislike labels (which are inevitably hazy), my policy views probably fall somewhere in the vicinity of left-libertarian or neoliberal. You may find me deluded, or may find that my values are immoral, but I swear I’m trying to express the truth as I see it as straightforwardly as I can.
I do not think that Biden and Harris are communist or the puppets of communists. By way of comparison, in an effort to see the full range of ideological perspectives, I have read some online postings by actual, honest-to-goodness Nazis. Not in the “Oh, the Dems call everyone right of Jimmy Carter a Nazi” sense, Nazis in the sense of sentiments “Hitler’s biggest mistake was that he didn’t go far enough.” They /hate/ Donald Trump, seeing him as a puppet of the Jews and really just a mainstream sop. The actual communists I’ve seen feel similarly about Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Clinton, and Obama: they truly seem to believe that the main purpose of the Democratic party is thwarting the rise of a true left-wing movement in America. And believe me, they were not triumphant over Biden getting the nomination or his choice of Harris as VP. There was the whole meme “Kamala Harris is a cop” (see for instance this article from someone well to the right of the actual communists). Now, personally, I’m no fan of Harris — I think she’s an unprincipled climber with authoritarian tendencies, and her persona comes off as gratingly phony to me. But that doesn’t make her a communist, it makes her a politician in the derisory sense of the word. Were there an actual communist movement rising to power, I’m sure she could modify her espoused views to do well amongst them and would be willing to, but that’s not what’s happening.
Biden, I think, does have principles, or at least has been a hell of a lot better at giving that impression: see his speech against Apartheid here. Now, I’m not enamored with all the policies that flow from those principles either — for instance, he thinks repealing Section 230 to constrain hate speech on the internet is a good idea, despite the fact that (a) Section 230 doesn’t have anything to do with that, (b) I don’t trust the government to decide what is and isn’t hate speech, and (c) Section 230 is what lets most of the modern internet exist at all and without it forums and comment sections like this one would be driven under by the threat of litigation. (Happy to list more points of disagreement with the president-elect if you’d like.) But while Biden is in many ways more authoritarian than I, a left-libertarian-leaning fellow would like, that doesn’t make him communist. The same criticisms apply to most everyone else in the government of whatever alignment. See for instance Devin Nunes’s ridiculous and anti First Amendment defamation suit against Twitter for hosting the Devin Nunes’s Cow account. Communism is a pretty specific thing, and I don’t believe Biden supports nationalization of industries (even health insurance and healthcare, the only industries the mainstream Democratic party would consider nationalizing, Biden explicitly ran in favor of the private model). Now, I’m aware of the notion that Biden is senile and Harris and his advisors will be running things behind the scenes. I don’t wholly discount the possibility — it’s happened before (see the end of Reagan’s presidency), and Biden is clearly diminished from how he was in the anti-Apartheid speech I linked above. I’m not convinced, though. He’s older, yes, but he’s never been that articulate thanks to a stutter, and I’ve known enough older people to know that physical frailty doesn’t necessarily mean mental frailty.
Regarding the election being stolen, I am confident there was not large scale fraud. My mother has, for over a decade, worked as an election judge in a swing area in a Democratic state. This year, because of the pandemic, she was unable to safely work the polls, and instead got heavily involved with policy around the elections. Again due to the pandemic, I’ve been living with my parents through the election season, and at least in the corner I’ve had a very close look at, not only is there no sign of fraud, there was serious effort even by Democrats who are very strongly opposed to Trump to limit the possible security holes in the election. Now, that’s not to say the election was run that well — our state made a lurching transition to vote by mail, which has a tremendous number of logistical issues. I recall the State Board of Elections received an email from the Washington State (which has done vote by mail for decades) Secretary of State office about the challenges of the process: So Now You All Love Vote By Mail. But they really do seem to have done their best with a rough situation and scarce resources. Many poll workers are older, and therefore were unwilling to work all day inside during a pandemic, so the state had to scramble to recruit replacements, since our governor decided that we should, besides sending absentee ballot applications out, also have nearly the full in-person voting available. This takes a /lot/ of people. Running an election is hard — I’d be happy to share what I’ve picked up second-hand if anyone has questions.
Some examples of responses from Democrats in my state that I wouldn’t have expected if they were planning to steal the election with fraud. (Though, granted, my state was pretty much already a foregone conclusion in terms of which way it would go on the Presidential race.) The (majority Republican, for what it’s worth) Board of Elections proposed some ways to scrimp, such as by having only one election judge examine absentee ballot envelopes, instead of the standard pair from different parties. Activists, such as my firmly-Democratic mother, raised hell about this, though I think it still went through. The canvass, the process of resolving issues with absentee ballots and actually tallying all the votes, was, as always, publicly viewable, and we watched online. The poll workers at the canvass certainly seemed dedicated to protocol. After the election, the state legislature has been proposing various updates to the election law, and again, activists of all political stripes have been pushing for directions that preserve election integrity. One legislator proposed that absentee ballots postmarked as late as the day after Election Day be accepted. Their reasoning is that if you drop off your absentee ballot on Election Day, there’s a real window where you could do so after the last mail pickup but before the polls close, and so your ballot, which was cast before the polls closed, would still be postmarked the next day. But the activists like my mother are strongly opposed to this because it opens the possibility of ballots being put into the system after the polls close. (People already in line to vote after the polls close are allowed to stay in line and cast their ballots, but that’s clearly a different matter, and the election judges take seriously their responsibility to prevent word of early results from being spread to people in line.) At least from what I have seen from my admittedly limited perspective, there’s passionate efforts by Democrats to seal off avenues for fraud.
I am not expecting any majorly catastrophic actions by the Biden administration. As I said above, I’m expecting him to push for some stuff that is bad, such as weakening due process protections for college students accused of sexual misconduct, but I am not expecting anything like us in the first few weeks of the Biden presidency declaring war on China, immediately surrendering, and turning over the country to them. Nor am I expecting conservatives to be rounded up to some unspecified awful fate. This is a bit tricky to discuss, because here I think we’re going to see the same events from different angles. For instance, right now, the FBI is arresting the protestors who broke into the Capitol during the vote certification. Those are conservatives, who are being rounded up, and they are going to go through the merciless and brutal justice system. But… from my perspective, that’s a very small number of people, who did something very specific, and some of whom are directly responsible for the death and injury of Capitol Police. I think the situation is flawed (the folks who were more of the overenthusiastic tourist variety don’t deserve what the federal justice system is probably going to do to them), but I would consider that very different from a wholesale rounding up of conservatives. If the FBI went after everyone who was at the rally, for instance, then that would be seriously alarming, but that’s not what is happening. The worst thing I do see as plausible during the next four years are the passage of some domestic terrorism law — if our efforts at fighting Islamic terrorism in the Middle East are any precedent, such a law would assuredly only make things worse while also eroding civil liberties. I think it’s also possible tech companies will crack down more on conservative speech online. But while I’m mostly opposed to that (I think the content here is wrong and inflammatory, but it absolutely should be allowed), that’s not — or at least according to the First Amendment it shouldn’t be — an issue of government policy.
Anyhow, this was rather long, but I hope I adequately expressed my views. On a non-political note, as an aspiring writer myself (ask me about my evil alien trees!), do you have any suggestions for resources on getting stuff I write to where other people can actually see it?
So, in other words, you’re completely and thoroughly delusional and have decided the government is a candy machine with social services.
GOTCHA. Well done.
Look, the fraud is next level, but idiots like you are helping the fraudsters and kleptocrats destroy the last hope of mankind.
I hope you go before us.
In the next day we’ll see whether you’re totally insane or educable.
I mean, I know approximately what I expect to see. I was distraught by the outcome of the 2016 election, but Trump wasn’t the end of the world. Days went on and nothing dramatically changed. Yeah, he implemented some policies I disliked (such as around immigration — I want more Americans!), but materially, my day-to-day life was unaffected. I’m expecting there to be a tense inauguration with ridiculous levels of security, followed by the day-to-day march of government continuing much as it has. There’s a low but real chance of an attack at the inauguration, but given the aforementioned ridiculous levels of security, I doubt there will be anything more than someone arrested with a suspicious package three miles away. Biden will probably do some stuff with executive orders in the early days, but I’d be mildly surprised if there’s anything bigger than repealing stuff Trump did with executive orders (which, whatever your political views, is the downside of executive orders: they tend to last only as long as you have the executive).
I’d like to think I’m educable. In all my interactions and observations, with the literal communists, literal Nazis, monarchists, SJWs, religious extremists, I have the nagging doubt about whether I’m catastrophically wrong and my interlocutor is right. If events I consider seriously unlikely come to pass, then clearly I went wrong somewhere in my understanding of the world and I need to reevaluate. Maybe I am kidding myself about my willingness to accept contrary evidence; we’ll see.
I expect you’ve forgotten the Inauguration Day riots which occurred in 2017. It was in all the news … until it wasn’t. In the end Left-wing foundations paid the legal fees and fines for those rioters and none suffered any serious consequences.
Most protesters arrested on Inauguration Day will face felony rioting charges, federal prosecutors say
JANUARY 21, 2017 / 7:49 PM / CBS/AP
WASHINGTON — Most of the approximately 230 protesters arrested on Inauguration Day will be charged with felony rioting, federal prosecutors said.
The U.S. Attorney’s Office said the offense is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000. The office said most of those arrested will be released without having to post bail and must return to court in February.
A first group of 10 men appeared in Superior Court just before 3 p.m., and their lawyer entered a not guilty plea on their behalf. A judge released all of them on the condition they not get re-arrested in the District of Columbia.
Interim D.C. police chief Peter Newsham said Friday that 217 people were being charged with rioting.
The arrests took place in a four-block stretch of downtown Washington around the time of President Trump’s swearing-in ceremony.
The arrests came after some protesters created chaos. Windows of downtown businesses were smashed, and police deployed pepper spray and “sting balls” against the crowd.
Also Saturday, hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets in Washington for the Women’s March on Washington. Demonstrators also turned out in cities across the U.S. and the world.
Wearing pink, pointy-eared “pussyhats” to mock the new president, crowds massed to send Mr. Trump an emphatic message that they won’t let his agenda go unchallenged over the next four years.
The women brandished signs with messages such as “Women won’t back down” and “Less fear more love” and decried Mr. Trump’s stand on such issues as abortion, health care, diversity and climate change. Their message reverberated at demonstrations from New York, Philadelphia, Chicago and Los Angeles to Paris, Berlin, London, Prague, Sydney and beyond.
I had forgotten about that (four years is a while; I hardly remembered the Women’s March), but something like that happening Wednesday wouldn’t surprise or perturb me. I think it’s less likely in DC specifically thanks to the gigantic National Guard presence, but I file stuff like that under general rowdiness, no matter who’s doing it. Bad, especially in volume, but not especially significant. Something like a serious assassination attempt or a live explosive would be qualitatively different, but I think the security is probably on high enough alert to make that unlikely.
Do not trust this. The last sentences are exactly like a 26-year-old CCP boy trying to slip the knife in between your ribs as it whispers.
It uses many words. Too many.
Today, there are NO “literal Nazis”. There are little groups LARPing at being Hitler fans, having fun dressing up in their spiffy uniforms and shocking the normies.
And there are people who have psych issues, but sound fairly rational, if fanatical about something you know is nuts, til you realize what’s going on:
A shrink posted something I can’t find again, pointing out that there are a LOT more “functional schizophrenics” out there than most people realize. These people walk and talk and generally act pretty normal, but the hallmark of their condition is that the world does not make sense to them. And their way of forcing a chaotic world to behave rationally is to latch onto conspiracy theories that “explain everything”. He also pointed out that these conspiracy theories always fall into one of two broad subsets: 1) the Illuminati or aliens or elites or pedos or demons or round-earthers or… you get the idea… are secretly responsible for everything bad that happens, or 2) “The Jews did it.” [I would posit that there is now a third variant, “QAnon knows all, trust the plan.”]
Also, when you say, “I want more Americans” you should perhaps take note that “more Americans” happens ONLY when immigrants have no choice but to assimilate, AND desire to do so. Now they are actively discouraged from assimilating, and tribal loyalties dominate — so we have Little Mogadishu in Minneapolis, and Somali gangs attacking actual Americans with zero consequences (not to mention Muslim rape gangs in Britain, mostly immune from prosecution). And numerous other problems I won’t go into, because I don’t believe you’re to where you can examine them without an emotional response. But suffice to say that most of the world never so much as invented the wheel, and those are now the dominant groups of immigrants. And on average, today’s illegal aliens have four criminal convictions, at least one for a violent crime. Sure you want those people as your new neighbors??
Hell, I VOLUNTARILY assimilated (It’s work) and the f*cking schools tried to raise my kids to be “loyal” to “Latin” identity. Including trying to put them in ESL.
Eh, I think I’m willing to call them Nazis. They’re definitely different, psychologically speaking, from the original Nazis of WWII-era Germany. There, being Nazi was the socially expected, conformist thing to do. Here, it’s quite the opposite — as you say, shock the normies. But that goes for a lot of other things too. In first century Rome, it was a very, very different thing to be Christian than it is, say, in modern-day Vatican City. But I’m reluctant to define group membership in psychological terms, which are hazy and often tend to improperly generalize. This isn’t strict, but I place more weight on beliefs and self-identification, and by those metrics, there’s still Nazis.
Yeah, there’s ethnic enclaves and ethnic gangs in the US. But that’s nothing new. Remember the Italian mob, or Little Germany in New York? I know a lot of African immigrants, and they’re having Ye Standarde American Immigrant Experience: come here, work menial jobs and open ethnic restaurants, apply ridiculous amounts of pressure on their kids to go to Harvard or Yale and become a doctor or lawyer (or these days, a computer programmer), and then the next generation has bootstrapped their way into the usual middle class rat race. I have faith that in much the same way as the Italian mafia (which is still around in the US!) faded to a footnote, so too will Somali gangs — violence is a young man’s game. And Little Mogadishu will either gentrify or turn over to the next wave of immigrants from somewhere else.
Rotherham was a travesty, and I think people ought to have an emotional response to what happened there. But, well, that wasn’t the US. I’m not sure what it is about us, but I really do think that this country is better at assimilation. I object to the anti-assimilation messages I hear from the left, and fortunately, most immigrants I know don’t have patience for them either. Yes, you can point to brutal crimes by ethnic gangs here in the US, but I can match that with regaling you of the atrocities of the Five Families.
90% of the Nazis in the US currently are FBI agents.
Listen, oh, vacant headed one, in a country of 300 million there are people who believe the craziest sh*t.
I’m more worried about the ones like you who believe socialism will work, because the schools have indoctrinated a vast number of people into this BLATANT and LETHAL conterfactual.
Again, please read the Black Book of Communism
The life you save might be your own.
However, in face of concerns raised, I NEED you to to type the following phrase verbatim, before we can assume your discussion is in any way in good faith or that you’re American.
“Xi Jinping is a blood thirsty dictator, whose policies against ethnic minorities are at least as bad as Hitlers. China, as currently constituted is not a legitimate nation, but a tyrannical horror with plans of world domination.”
Once you do that, without the quotes, and in a separate comment, the discussion can go on.
I fear you’re just wasting your time. The troll has been taught not to think, does not care to learn, and will continue regurgitating trivial variations on the same bullshit for as long as you continue trying to correct it. The entertainment value, minimal as it was, is gone.
I think your time would be better spent in creating the new, rather than re-re-re-debunking that which has already been so thoroughly debunked before.
Governments can’t create prosperity; at best, they can refrain from destroying it.
No. I do not obey any commands for compelled speech. Not from you, not from anybody. I agree with the sentiment, though not some of the details: as awful as the Xinjiang concentration camps are, I do think the Nazi’s extermination camps were materially worse than a cultural genocide complete with forced sterilizations and rape. It’s still an utter atrocity that I desperately want to stop, but it’s a sad truth that things can be and have been worse in some of the darkest moments of history. I also, unfortunately, do not consider being a tyrannical horror with plans of world domination to be incompatible with being a legitimate state. Legitimacy is orthogonal to morality. Now, I’m happy to denounce the CCP, and indeed I think I have downthread. But I’ll do so again in my words, not yours, not anyone else’s.
China is currently run by Xi Jinping (also known as Winnie the Pooh), a thin-skinned dictator who is determined to crush dissent and expand China’s totalitarian sphere as widely as possible. He has recently overseen such egregious actions as the suffocation of Hong Kong democracy and the arrest and probably torture of its champions, and has instituted a crackdown on Uighurs in Xinjiang that amounts to genocide, with a concerted effort to stamp out their culture, enslave them, and either sterilize their women or compel them to “marry” Han men. This is an abomination. Xi Jinping has continued China’s preexisting repression against other groups that have had the misfortune to fall under their control, such as China’s likely organ harvesting of Falun Gong members. China has no tolerance for any religion apart from the state, as evidenced by their attempts to select the next Dalai Lama and to force a state-chosen Cardinal on Chinese Catholics. They export their autocratic approach, using economic pressure to force US institutions to toe to party line and not criticize their awful actions (incidentally making a mockery of many of these organizations’ purported commitment to social justice).
You can’t, because it would get you killed, is the truth. I thought Kathy was being silly, turns out she’s spot on.
So, since that’s the ONLY way to test you’re not Xi’s turtle-boy sent to post here, I’m done with you. If/when commenters tell me they’re done playing with you, it will be time to wave bye bye.
I’m honestly confused. I have denounced Xi Jinping and the CCP numerous times. I’ve not done so in your exact words, but I frankly don’t think what I have said is any less vitriolic. Do you really think that I would be executed for saying that “Xi Jinping is a blood thirsty dictator, whose policies against ethnic minorities are at least as bad as Hitlers” but not for saying “China is currently run by Xi Jinping (also known as Winnie the Pooh), a thin-skinned dictator who is determined to crush dissent and expand China’s totalitarian sphere as widely as possible”? I’ve pointed out and condemned the numerous atrocities of the Chinese government, pinned many of them on their current leader, in more detail than you asked for. If anything, I think doing so in my own words makes it harsher.
I don’t believe in magic words. Writing exactly what you wrote, though I agree with the sentiment wholeheartedly, isn’t something I’m going to do for the exact same reason that I will not parrot the “Black Lives Matter” slogan. If you truly think that only the exact phrase you wrote constitutes a denunciation of the CCP and Xi Jinping, I guess I won’t satisfy you. (Damnit, “bloodthirsty” is one word!) If there’s something you know that actually does make that a set of magic words, such as that that exact set of sentences in English is blocked in China but others like calling Xi Jinping a petty tyrant are not, please share that with me; that would be really interesting and I’d like to learn more.
Still, happy to denounce that evil regime a bit more. Xi Jinping, a dictatorial loon, has broken China’s treaty with England to subjugate Hong Kong, because he can’t (Pooh) bear that they exist independently and show the world the inferiority of the Chinese model over the free Western one that raised Hong Kong to be the economic hub of the region. The CCP is currently persecuting Hong Kong’s heroes of democracy, and trying to pass some national security law that, in an offense against common decency and legal procedure (which in this case are aligned!) they claim gives them jurisdiction against anyone in the world who speaks afoul of the tyrannical system the CCP has set up. Whoops, guess I’m not traveling there any time soon. As bad as this is, it’s far from the worst thing the CCP is currently up. A strong contender for that dubious honor is their genocide in Xinjiang, where in a fit of collective punishment, they’re making a serious effort to wipe out the Uighur ethnic minority. Mass roundups of adherents to disfavored religion, loading people into trains to be shipped to concentration camps where they toil as slaves — there’s no Zyklon B (yet?), but this sure looks familiar. And with forcible sterilization and the placement of Han men to “monitor” Uighur women, this isn’t just a cultural genocide. This is of a piece with some of the CCP’s past atrocities, like their probable murdering Falun Gong practitioners for their organs, something straight out of Niven’s Organleggers. I don’t know if it will happen, but I ardently hope that Xi Jinping and the other architects of this abomination face justice for their crimes.
Reminds me of “Friendly Goat” on Disqus. Older guy, and not really a shill or troll (despite that most of us know to ignore him), but is so thoroughly steeped in the mainstream narrative, and with so little life exposure to its evil fruits, that his solution is to burrow deep into Democrat thoughts. You’d think Goat was a Xi/Dem troll too, from how persistently he embraces his side and informs us that really, everything is fine.
I’m not convinced Gardener (whom I’ll refer to as ‘he’ for convenience) is a Xi shill, or even entirely ineducable, but if he’s a “seeker” he’s still way too stuck on the idea that It Can’t Happen Here, Everything Will Be Fine, and that everything he’s learned must be true. Rather, he strikes me as Left Libertarian (You can’t make me, and BTW let’s open the borders and enjoy the New Americans, nothing will go wrong!)
PS. Xi is Winnie on bad drugs. With syphilis.
Furthermore, I think screeching “You are not of the Body! REEEEE!” is counterproductive and more likely to make an enemy rather than a possible friend. Hey, if Gardener were a spy, he wouldn’t need to chime in with “I think you’re wrong but I’m interested in learning what you have to say”, he could just have lurked and collected information. Not like our identities are really all that secret here, or anywhere on the Internet.
I think we’re all very afraid and touchy right now — I know I certainly am — but I think we ill serve ourselves if we let ourselves be the converse of this story: https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2021/01/sic-transit-discourse.html
We’re not saying “REEEEE!” but more “Oh, shit, it’s another troll, repeating the last dozen trolls’ bullshit almost word-for-word. And it was boring and stupid the first time we saw it.”
I think Sarah has much better uses for her time.
Well, okay. I’m relatively new here and so haven’t seen a parade of identical trolls over time.
On the other hand, I’ve been following and occasionally commenting on Neo’s blog since 2005, and have seen all the trolls over there — some blocked, some tolerated, some disappeared on their own — and this guy’s M.O. does not match theirs, nor does it match that of the endless number of trolls on PJMedia. (I will say that there are a number of commenters on Neo’s blog and at Instapundit that I skip over.)
His words — and let’s not pretend we can read minds here — make him sound like a standard issue pre-PC-era “liberal” except with libertarian leanings. You know how Antifa will surround a new person and quiz them, and if they don’t get 100% agreement they decide the new person is “fash” and frogmarch them away and rough them up? Let’s not do that.
My biggest issue: The amazingly opaque walls of text and what grandma called “moving the butt to escape the needle.”
As I understand the term, I’m not a troll, just a member of the outgroup (though yes, as balzacq says, you can’t read minds and don’t know my motives). That said, I probably will vanish soon; I’m here for a conversation, not a community.
You are a concern troll.
You’re willing to allow the things you’ll recognize as an issue, sort of, in a limited manner, refuse to engage on those aspects with which you don’t agree, and won’t take a stand to defend the stuff you hold as sacred beyond pontificating.
You won’t make an argument, you just browbeat.
Yep. And ignores anything that disturbs the narrative. Got it in one.
“You won’t make an argument, you just browbeat.”
Now that’s just UNFAIR, Foxfier!
We can hardly call what Gardener’s been doing “browbeating” – not with this lot. He isn’t even doing browslapping.
Besides, it is awfully hard to beat this bunch of low-browed Huns. We’re a hard-headed lot as you well know.
Brow-poking sounds wrong.
Yeah, this is a little different environment than you are used to where trolls are concerned.
And I’m not just talking about myself. 🙂
Basic fundamental experience shaping the long term regulars was the iterations of Sad Puppies, here, madgeniusclub dot com, and monsterhunternation dot com. We got a lot of people ‘just showing up’, who became obviously clear that they were partisans trying to wage information war, and badly. Camestros Feloptron, Greg Hullender, and Mike Glyer, were among the most persistent. It was a very rigorous training in detecting the trolls.
Folks coming out of that do have a false positive rate.
Anyway, I believe the theory that a poster we had here was probably a Turkish government information warrior.
I’m pretty sure that there is evidence that the Chinese have been doing information warfare on American blogs recently. Go to honyakusite dot wordpress dot com , and check out the comments for the last spring’s updates to Wizard of the Flower Blades. The Chinese info war isn’t merely having subsidiaries like YouTube push BLM and COVID, and suppressing speech they dislike.
So you’re a communist. Surprise.
CHINESE communist, to be exact.
Yes. The foulest kind.
No. I do not obey any commands for compelled speech. Not from you, not from anybody. I agree with the sentiment, though not some of the details:
Then you could have easily bypassed it by quoting the statement, and picking apart the parts that are bad.
It’s chosen for the same reason one might have guests touch a blessed item if there was a vampire problem in the area– you don’t have to agree with it, I’m Catholic and have gone into pagan shrines, respectfully.
Someone on Xi’s payroll, though, would be taking his life in his hands to even quote it.
And that’s why it’s the only test I’ve found works.
I was asked to say it without quotes, without examination. I don’t do that. Instead, as I have demonstrated several times in this thread, I am totally happy to rail against the CCP on my own. I can’t quite build on your analogy here, because vampires probably can’t make blessed items themselves, and the blessedness of an item isn’t visually apparent like the anti-CCP sentiment of my posts is, but if we substitute cross for blessed item in the metaphor, I may not touch your cross, but I’m happy to make my own crosses, no less cross-y than yours, and fondle the crap out of them.
I was asked to say it without quotes, without examination.
You are lying.
You were asked to type it.
The statement is LITERALLY right up there– actually literal.
You may have chosen to interpret it otherwise– but just as with the definition of Nazi, your emotional response is not relevant to the meaning, and it sure as hell doesn’t force the rest of us to dance along.
However, in face of concerns raised, I NEED you to to type the following phrase verbatim, before we can assume your discussion is in any way in good faith or that you’re American.
Xi Jinping is a blood thirsty dictator, whose policies against ethnic minorities are at least as bad as Hitlers. China, as currently constituted is not a legitimate nation, but a tyrannical horror with plans of world domination.
Once you do that, without the quotes, and in a separate comment, the discussion can go on.
She says “without the quotes” and “in a separate comment”. I interpreted “in a separate comment” as saying that it should be the only thing in the comment, which could be a misunderstanding on my part. If mere quoting with commentary counts, well, I edited out the quotation marks up there, if that satisfies you.
While I’ve not read the Black Book of Communism, I am familiar with the horrors of various communist regimes. Besides the pretty universally known awfulness of Stalin’s Russia and Mao’s China, there’s the smaller-but-probably-worse Cambodia, where Pol Pot murdered something like a quarter of the population in only a few years, a pace that Hitler, Mao, and Stalin never managed. People could be executed for appearing educated (i.e. wearing eyeglasses) or for such banned acts of entrepreneurship as foraging for berries. The prisons were slaughterhouses, with one that has been preserved as a museum of the horrors of the Khmer Rouge having a tree that was used to bash the heads of children against when they were summarily executed. Ethiopia had the reign of the communist dictator Mengistu, who, underachiever that he was, only killed maybe 2% of the country’s population in his seven years in power. Ethiopia has a museum of skulls to commemorate the victims of the Derg, and as a reminder against ever treading that path again. (Mengistu is actually still alive, hanging out in Zimbabwe.) I can go on if you like, but believe me, I am no fan of communism.
Eh, I think I’m willing to call them Nazis. They’re definitely different, psychologically speaking, from the original Nazis of WWII-era Germany.
It’s the name of a political philosophy. With not very hard to identify points of belief, including nationalizing control of industries, killing off (generally with justifications of mercy) those whose quality of life was not of a degree acceptable to those doing the judging, the stated and lived out belief that those who disagree on even minor political issues are automatically among those unworthy of being allowed to exist, etc.
I could see justifying wiggling around saying a political group who shares all the relevant views of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party is still Nazi even if they are not German, but being a worker’s party promoting national socialist policies is much more relevant than “what will it make people react like”.
Here ya go.
[Read somewhere that the authors had put this into the public domain.]
Thanks. I hope you don’t mind if I say I don’t have much appetite for 900 pages of true historical atrocities making a point I already agree with, but I’ll take a look.
Back in 1993 / 1994, there was an African American columnist named William Raspberry. When Clinton proposed more immigration from Mexico and points south, he and a number of other African-Americans advised against it, for three reasons:
1. People from that culture were as much if not more racist against African Americans.
2. There was a much larger population pool for the Democrats to import voters, and also workers who would be in competition for the same job pool as African Americans and lower class whites.
3. Unlike whites, Hispanics didn’t have a past history of slavery that they could be made to feel guilty about.
His conclusion was that African Americans would be displaced, often with violence.
Fast forward 20 years, and this is precisely what he said would happen:
“The attacks on the family are the latest in a series of violent incidents in which Latino gangs targeted blacks in parts of greater Los Angeles over the last decade.
Compton, with a population of about 97,000, was predominantly black for many years. It is now 65% Latino and 33% black, according to the 2010 U.S. census. But it’s not only historically black areas that have been targeted.
Federal authorities have alleged in several indictments in the last decade that the Mexican Mafia prison gang has ordered street gangs under its control to attack African Americans. Leaders of the Azusa 13 gang were sentenced to lengthy prison terms earlier this month for leading a policy of attacking African American residents and expelling them from the town.”
Those are middle-class black folks with good jobs, houses and families. They’re not ‘authentically black’ enough for the Democrats, so they don’t count.
They are sufferers from False Consciousness, specifically of “Multiracial Whiteness” – just oe more example of the evils of Whiteness:
To understand Trump’s support, we must think in terms of multiracial Whiteness
Opinion by Cristina Beltrán
Jan. 15, 2021 at 4:44 p.m. EST
Cristina Beltrán is an associate professor of social and cultural analysis at New York University. She is the author, most recently, of “Cruelty as Citizenship: How Migrant Suffering Sustains White Democracy.”
The Trump administration’s anti-immigration, anti-civil rights stance has made it easy to classify the president’s loyalists as a homogenous mob of white nationalists. But take a look at the FBI’s posters showing people wanted in the insurrectionist assault on the U.S. Capitol: Among the many White faces are a few that are clearly Latino or African American.
Such diversity highlights the fact that President Trump’s share of the Latino vote in November actually rose over 2016, notwithstanding years of incendiary rhetoric targeting Mexicans and other Latino communities. Yes, Trump’s voters — and his mob — are disproportionately White, but one of the more unsettling exit-poll data points of the 2020 election was that a quarter to a third of Latino voters voted to reelect Trump.
And while the vast majority of Latinos and an overwhelming majority of African American voters supported the Biden-Harris ticket and were crucial to its success, many Black and brown voters have family and friends who fervently backed the MAGA policy agenda, including its delusions and conspiracy theories.
One of the organizers of the “Stop the Steal” movement is Ali Alexander, a Trump supporter who identifies as Black and Arab. The chairman of the neo-fascist Proud Boys is Enrique Tarrio, a Latino raised in Miami’s Little Havana who identifies as Afro-Cuban; when he arrived in Washington for the Jan. 6 march, he was arrested for allegedly burning a Black Lives Matter banner taken from a Black church the month before.
What are we to make of Tarrio — and, more broadly, of Latino voters inspired by Trump? And what are we to make of unmistakably White mob violence that also includes non-White participants? I call this phenomenon multiracial whiteness — the promise that they, too, can lay claim to the politics of aggression, exclusion and domination.
Before Trump, conservatives seeking to appeal to Latinos typically embraced the politics of conservative multiculturalism. Politicians such as George W. Bush reached out to Latino voters by showing a familiarity with their language and history, emphasizing the values of diversity and inclusion. Depicting Latinos as a distinct and valuable part of America’s democratic mosaic, conservative multiculturalism connected Latino culture to Republican values, emphasizing conservative approaches to faith, patriotism and the traditional family.
Trump, by contrast, knows nothing of the history of Latinos in the United States and rarely even pretends to find value in Latinos’ distinct identities. Rather than offering his non-White voters recognition, Trump has offered them multiracial whiteness.
My mother is also an election judge and has been for years. She’s seen the fraud first hand and been threatened with arrest if she objected to it. She’s also had death threats sent against her and my disabled father by members of the police force. Wanna try your little spiel again?
I’ve seen the fraud first hand, and ditto.
#MeToo….. and for quite a while.
One legislator proposed that absentee ballots postmarked as late as the day after Election Day be accepted. Their reasoning is that if you drop off your absentee ballot on Election Day, there’s a real window where you could do so after the last mail pickup but before the polls close, and so your ballot, which was cast before the polls closed, would still be postmarked the next day.
How stupid is it to drop off an ABSENTEE ballot ON ELECTION DAY???!? Absentee means you are not going to be there on election day! Just go to the damn polls. If you can’t be arsed to fill out an absentee ballot and get it into the mail soon enough to be delivered on time, then tough.
And yes, it DOES, very much, open up the possibility of ballots being dumped onto the pile after the polls close, because you then have ALL NIGHT to add ballots into the postal boxes, after you know how the returns are going, because there’s no way to know what time of day it was dropped off.
Well, this year, people might be reluctant to go inside to cast their ballot out of health concerns. Additionally, absentee ballots in most years are used by people who are, well, absent. If you’re out of state, such as military personnel assigned overseas, going to the polling place itself isn’t an option. If you have requested an absentee ballot, when you go into a polling place, you’ll have to fill out a provisional ballot (the pollbooks know who requested an absentee ballot, but they don’t necessarily know who has returned them, so voters in that case need to fill out a provisional ballot to prevent double-voting). If you haven’t returned your absentee ballot, the provisional vote will be counted, Yeah, it’s definitely best to turn it in early, but if you haven’t, just going into the polling place may not be an option.
You’re right about the security concerns with accepting the late-postmarked ballots, which is why the advocacy group my mother is working with is strenuously opposed to that suggestion.
I don’t know about where you live, but I have been repeatedly assured that wearing a 2-ply cloth face mask and maintaining six-feet of distance between myself and others provided ample safety margin for in-person voting, so I am disinclined to take seriously any supposed concerns about health when casting one’s ballot.
You appear unaware that military personnel do NOT cast absentee ballots and do not use regular mail to cast their ballots while deployed (among other insufficiencies, because the military uses a separate postal system their ballots are not post-marked and therefore are often disqualified – in spite of laws requiring their acceptance.)
You state: “If you haven’t returned your absentee ballot, the provisional vote will be counted,” — which is not quite correct. The more accurate formulation would be, “If your absentee ballot hasn’t been returned, the provisional vote will be counted,” Because that acknowledges instances of absentee ballots being intercepted, filled in by other parties, and returned, blocking the true voter from being counted.
Sure, that’s your assessment of the risk. (Though, grumble grumble, that advice is pithy but it’s definitely an oversimplification. Six feet isn’t magic!) You might not take seriously someone with health concerns about voting in person, but, well, voting is a sacred right. I think there’s a lot of voters with ludicrous concerns, but their vote must count equally to mine.
My mistake regarding military voters; indeed, I’m unfamiliar with the process for them and made assumptions. Nonetheless, I do think my point stands: absentee voters are often physically far away from their home precincts, and therefore unable to cast in-person ballots on Election Day.
And fair, it is quite possible for absentee ballots to be filled out by the incorrect party. One occurrence we saw during the canvass was a fairly innocuous form of this in which two residents at the same building seem to have accidentally swapped absentee ballots. Alice filled out a ballot for Bob and signed the envelope Alice, Bob filled out Alice’s ballot and signed the envelope Bob. Unfortunately for them, though this was assuredly an innocent error, they both ended up disenfranchised. It is indeed possible for more malicious forms of this to occur (whether to alter someone’s vote or just to invalidate it), and there’s processes to try to reduce that risk, such as signature verification. Seriously, read that message I linked from the Washington State Director of Elections — they’ve been doing vote by mail for decades and are well aware of the challenges.
First, I want to say congratulations on braving the lion’s den and offering an honest if dissenting opinion. People here can be kind of … excitable here, so buckle up. 🙂
In America, left-authoritarians get called “communist”, just like right-authoritarians get called “Nazis”.
Is Biden literally a devotee of Marx, Engels, and Lenin? No, mostly because I don’t think he’s smart enough to understand them. Is he inclined — strike that, I don’t think he really matters particularly due to dementia issues — are the people he is surrounded by inclined toward leftist one-party politics and injecting state power into every corner of public and private life? Yes, I absolutely believe that. Maybe “Soviet” would be a better adjective than “communist” but it doesn’t have the same oomph.
As to fraud, you don’t say where you’re from, but I have no doubt that many states — even blue states — conducted their elections as honestly as possible. (Consider that your mother’s experience might be the equivalent of looking through a soda straw.) The problem wasn’t “swing areas in blue states”, the problem was blue areas in swing states, where it’s been common knowledge for a century that elections were shams in the hands of corrupt Democratic big-city political machines*. Also, the Democrats have spent the last decade loosening electoral security by a lawsuit here and a “minor” legislative change there (in more than just the swing states), ineffectually opposed by the Republicans where any attempt to tighten security got shot down by a loyal Democratic judge as “racist”. And those loosening efforts were massively abetted by Covid fear, making this by far the least secure presidential election perhaps ever.
I think Biden is planning to reverse every positive action of the Trump Administration, basically on no more grounds than “if he’s fer it, I’m agin it”, plus implement a whole lot of really stupid policies that have been on the left-Democratic wish list for a decade, that are only going to harm our standing in the world, our national security, and the economy — and “the economy” means you, me, and all the other ordinary citizens of the US — for zero actual benefit. I don’t know if Biden is going to unleash the jackbooted thugs to bring Gestapo terror to conservative America (in fact I think that we have a couple years until he and the Democrats work themselves up to it), but certainly, and probably immediately, Americans of all persuasions will be less free and less able to exercise their natural rights.
I’m happy to hear that you’re opposed to domestic “terrorism” laws and “hate speech” regulations for the same reasons all of us don’t like them: we don’t trust the people who get to decide what terrorism or hate speech are (and in fact disagree that there’s any such thing as the latter). Given that the Biden Administration and a Congress being de facto led by “the Squad” will be gleefully doing just that, I wonder how you can justify your vote.
To Sarah: I would advise don’t block this guy. He may be a victim of Scott Adams’ “two movies, same screen”, but he seems honest and not a troll like e.g. Montage over on Neo’s blog (who btw Neo tolerates). Maybe he can be converted. 🙂
(* this is also a problem with blue cities in erstwhile red states (like Denver) learning the lesson that electoral insecurity and fraud cannot be effectively opposed and therefore is wide open to ever more shenanigans in the future.)
We’ll see. He has a bunch of counterfactuals embedded. Like the idea that Biden used to stutter, a relatively recent left wing cannard to explain away the fact the FICUS is not all there. Or anywhere. He also thinks our “social net isn’t robust enough” which goes beyond movies to outright inanity. Also honestly? I want him to explain the ridiculous numbers at 4 am. I might or might not kill him depending on his reaction to that.
Remember his priors, and how effective media gaslighting has been on pretty much everyone who hasn’t been redpilled. And Morpheus can’t be everywhere, so we’re not very common. Also soda straw vision: “my state wasn’t visibly fraudy and mom didn’t see anything fraudy, so where’s all this fraud you’re complaining about?” Ahem. Personally, I would like to see an honest pollster (ha!) to find out how many of the 53% who don’t believe the election was fraudulent actually know about the dubious 4am vote drops, or if they’ve swallowed the “nothing to see here” line.
(Dammit, self, friggin’ proofread! before you post and catch all the grammatical errors sneaking in from rewrites. Bah.)
Me. If you guys are going to insist on no typos? I’m going to bed 😉
I got about half-way through the second paragraph and said, “Yup, concern troll, one each. Long-winded one, too.”
I’d like to see him explain how Pennsylvania counted almost 2.6 million mail-in ballots when they only sent out 1.8 million. What did they do, breed in the voters’ mailboxes? That being only marginally the most insane aspect of election fraud we all saw.
There’s statistically improbable, and then there’s ‘violates the fundamental principles of the universe’.
Guys, spontaneous generation is a legitimate scientific theory. Why do you hate science?
Indeed, as abiogenesis, it’s a Scientific Tenet of Faith.
And another thing is that the left is completely detached from reality. They’re not watching a movie. They’re looking at a diorama.
Take this critter here (and I suspect he came here from the multiple-day harassment on my page by crazy left. I think he’s one of those I blocked, though one of the cleverer ones.) who thinks that he’s being edgy and all that because he voted for biden because he believes in gay marriage….
You know, because Trump is totally opposed to gay people. “He held the pride flag upside down” “That flag (which had LGBT letters the right way as he held it) was not made by a real gay person.” which had all my gay friends near dying of laughter on facebook, because the stupid thing has no up or down, and no, it was probably made by a Chinese slave.
Or, like the idiots attacking me on Facebook, I BET you his image of me (if he knows my age) is that of the SNL churchlady, a caricature of something that really never existed. I keep running into this. They expect me to say “oh, my stars and garters” at the idea of anything slightly unusual.
Another sign of how deluded they are is their plan, which this critter echoes, for “more legal immigration.” (WHY anyone should have “more immigration” as a goal is rather baffling. But moving on.) By which, as has already been signaled they mean opening the borders and making ALL immigration legal.
This is their grand plan — and they’re doing end zone dances all over — to replace “white people” with “latins” (which are not a race but a culture, but they’re dumbasses) who are SO MUCH BETTER.
Leaving aside the fact that they have zero clue how RACIST the Latin culture inherently is (Latin supremacist in point of fact, which never went away from the Romans) these twiddlepoops fail to get that socialist countries don’t get immigrants. They get emigrants.
Given the economic idiocy of the Fraud In Chief’s cabinet, and his brilliant ideas of wealth taxing (that means taking a percentage of all the money you didn’t spend or part of the value of everything you own, btw. It’s expropriation on the installment plan.) I predict in less than a year the illegal immigrants will be RUNNING the other way, because Mexico is shitty but stable. (The president of Mexico knows it too. You can tell.)
I appreciate your “it will take two years for them to nerve themselves” but you must not run in my circles. I’m praying really hard I have a year to move to a safer place without losing my shirt on this house.
For the record, I have never posted here or on any other pages you run or are associated with under any other name, nor in any thread besides this one.
I didn’t say I voted for Biden because of gay marriage. While Trump isn’t optimal on the whole LGBT stuff (more relevantly, he appointed folks like Pence and Sessions who were actually pretty bad), he certainly wasn’t running on the promise of repealing gay marriage, and hey, Obama didn’t openly support gay marriage in ’08. Issues like gay marriage are why I’m aligned more with the Democrats, even if they’re no longer live issues in the current culture wars. Remember, Bush Jr. was pushing for a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. Also, for what it’s worth, a wealth tax is the proposal of Warren and Sanders, not of Biden. If we do see one, then I’ll see that as evidence that they’re running the show, but if we don’t, please take that as evidence that their faction of the Democratic party might not be in charge.
Though I can’t say I know too much about you, I don’t think of you as the SNL church lady (at least, I don’t think I do; I’ve not seen the sketches with that character). If I had to guess, you’re probably historically part of the tits-and-beer-liberalism coalition. That’s not a formal name, but it’s the line of thought that fun things are good, authorities (especially self-proclaimed moral authorities) are to be treated with severe skepticism, irony is inferior to earnestness, and people should be left alone to do what they want. Back when the main self-proclaimed moral authorities were the religious right, such as during the Bush era, this coalition was more aligned with the Dems, but as they’ve grown more moralistic, it’s shifted away. It’s a strain of thought I frankly agree with, but I’ve travelled neither with the folks who took it all the way to the dissident right, nor the folks who abandoned it in favor of the control-left.
Yeah, I’m well familiar with the shortcomings of various other cultures. I don’t think my view of would-be emigres is excessively rosy — if my error is anywhere, it’s in having too much faith in the US. I think the US is really good at taking whomever and making them into Americans. Or if not them, the next generation. We’ve got the best engines of integration and assimilation in the history of the world, and there’s many millions of people clamoring to jump into the melting pot. I’ve really not met many people who hope immigration changes America’s culture (as a distinct wish from that it changes the country’s voting patterns), but while they may also want more Americans and I’m willing to align myself with them to pursue that goal, I have different reasons and different hopes and expectations as to what will happen should we prevail. My favorite proposal of Trump’s was acquiring Greenland, because I think the US is really great and I want more of the world to be a part of that and contribute their talents to that titan’s glory.
You sure you’re a Democrat? 😀
Because the moderate-to-conservative Democrat is a nearly extinct species*, having been outcompeted by the woke, and pretty much every word of your last paragraph “proves” you — in their eyes — to be a racist, nationalist, fascist, Nazi, and probably homophobe as well. Not that any of that makes any sense, but, well, woke.
Come over to the dark side. We don’t care about gay marriage**, and we have cookies.
(* some examples of the highly endangered Blue Dog Democrat may be found in certain state legislatures but identification is difficult.)
(** we do care about people who do care about gay marriage being forced to comply and assent to what they believe are lies.)
As I said, I’m not woke. I don’t buy the notion that the melting pot is a racist myth or anything like that, because that’s transparently the product of an upper class view that sees itself as apart from the country, and ignores the voices of the millions of upon millions of people who want to dive into that melting pot. The universal culture exemplified in the US has grown its own class of colonizers.
But, well, I’m culturally of that woke class, even if I disagree with them. And I do think that (a) Biden specifically (in contrast to, say, Warren or O’Rourke) is not, and (b) while they’re very loud in the Democratic party, they don’t have strong control over the policy any more than Trump had control over the policy of the Republican party these last four years. I dislike the woke, and I dislike the Trump-associated memeplex; I consider both totalizing worldviews bereft of the ability to make a positive material difference. So I stick with the folks whose actual policy views are closer to my own. It’s a marriage of convenience, but that’s what a two-party system does for you.
Sorry, but I am a superb baker, and I make my own cookies. (Not a metaphor.)
As far as gay tolerance, keep in mind that Trump appointed the first openly gay Cabinet member when he made Ric Grenell acting DNI. Nor is there any evidence of him tolerating discrimination or abuse against homosexuals.
Of course, many will insist that Grenell is not a “real” homosexual because he does not conform his thinking to the identity politics caricature of gayness. He is not alone in that, as there are many men who will confess they’re more comfortable coming out as gay than as Trump supporters.
You might better appreciate the animus many here hold for the Democrat Party and Mainstream Media when you consider that many effective treatments for the Covid-19 virus, such as the HCQ/Z combo were attacked solely for political gain, that Nancy Pelosi larded the second relief bill with poison pills and refused for eight months to negotiate with the Republicans for even partial measures to alleviate the economic damage being wreaked by governors imposing draconian lockdowns. Even investigation into the true source of the virus was obstructed because it might give political aid to Trump, as recently acknowledged by New York magazine.
So a number of us are just inclined to be suspicious of a political faction willing to trade people’s lives (economic and actual) for partisan gain.
“My favorite proposal of Trump’s was acquiring Greenland, because I think the US is really great and I want more of the world to be a part of that and contribute their talents to that titan’s glory.”
If you needed further proof of CCP affiliation, there you have it.
I am very far from a fan of the CCP. They’re a brutal authoritarian government whose actions in Xinjiang and Hong Kong are immensely harmful to many millions, and which, more philosophically, represent a rejection of the liberalism I hold dear. And those are just the recent spectacularly bad actions — they’ve subjugated Tibet, quite possibly murdered religious minorities for their organs, and more. While I’m not sure if the CCP are the greatest evil currently active in the world (depends on philosophical questions that this is not the place for), they’re definitely a leading contender. To the extent that they were at some point getting less repressive, that trend has emphatically reversed itself under Xi Jinpeng. While my animus is reserved for the government instead of the people, I am annoyed at the ridiculous levels of political correctness among a large contingent of the Chinese populace online, leading to stuff like attempts to ban Winnie the Pooh and the response to Daryl Morey criticizing the Chinese crackdown in Hong Kong.
Stopping them from entrenching regional hegemony and somehow eventually reforming them are pretty much my top foreign policy goals, though candidly I’m not super optimistic on that front. One thing I think we could have done to advance that would have been to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a big trade agreement that would have presented a stronger competitor to China and hopefully steered some countries in southeast Asia away from their sphere of control. Another thing we could have done would have been to offer mass green cards to literally everyone in Hong Kong, a country full of people positively inclined towards the US, who mostly already speak English, and who have reason to hate our geopolitical rival. China’s welcome to break their treaty with England and take an empty city. We’ll take everything of value first.
Actually, Trump said something more like “Greenland has a lot of potential and we could develop it.” Buying Greenland would have been an achievement on par with the Alaska Purchase — Greenland is a huge storehouse of totally untapped mineral resources, and would have been excellent to have in reserve and for future expansion of our relevant industries. Trump understands this, even if his critics don’t. (If anyone is clinging to empire, it’s Denmark, which does absolutely nothing with Greenland but pour money into it keeping its few settlements afloat.)
You should remember that if you only READ or SAW REPORTED what Trump is SUPPOSED to have said and your source is the mainstream media, his words will invariably be taken out of context and/or twisted out of all recognition. Here is what really happens: I watch Trump speak, so I know exactly what he actually said, then a few minutes later turn to some mainstream news source and watch them REPORT that he said EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what I’d just heard him say with my own damn ears. And next day what’s reported all over the mainstream media? EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what he actually said, in four-party harmony and with a snide critique attached.
And now we’re being told Trump “incited insurrection” when what he said was literally to PEACEFULLY protest***; and they tell us there’s a violent dogwhistle embedded in the words “patriotic Americans” that only true believers can hear. Do you still believe they told you ANY truth about Trump’s previous words and actions?? Do you believe they’re telling you ANY truth about Biden’s previous words and actions?? Let alone his future words and actions??
*** I guess since the MSM has been using “peaceful protest” to describe violent riots with whole city blocks burning to the ground, they expected something else.
If anybody seriously wants more legal immigration the way to build public support is reducing illegal immigration. Reducing H1b visas, which effectively makes indentured servants of their employees and depresses wages for American workers.
Similarly, the safety net generally hurts its intended beneficiaries, as ably explained by Thomas Sowell Walter Williams.
They expect me to say “oh, my stars and garters” at the idea of anything slightly unusual.
We’ve FINALLY gotten the gaming group to realize that yes, the people with six kids, who were both sailors, where one is a forces protection nut and the other is a mythology fangirl, have heard all those words, know what they mean, and can discuss the pros and cons.
Some of us are praying really hard we have a month before we’re unemployed and unemployable, before the knock on the door.
Too many of us for that, and you’re in THE red state. If we were, I’d not be nearly so worried.
Philadelphia gets at least one election fraud conviction or guilty plea every year, but somehow it is impossible there was fraud in Philly in 2020.
Beloved Spouse grew up in Philadelphia and can regale with tales of inner city precincts having over 100% voter turnout without ever having a noticeable line. There are many districts across the country that could learn lessons from them. I understand that in some polling places they’ve been forced to take steps to reduce over-participation.
Amy Klobuchar, who smirked at Black Panthers, asks Judge Barrett about voter intimidation
Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota seems to have serious double standards about when “voter intimidation” is a real problem.
In particular, Klobuchar seems more worried about hypothetical voter intimidation by conservative poll watchers this year than she was about actual intimidation 12 years ago by violent members of the New Black Panther Party.
You probably remember the basic outlines of the Panther case. In the 2008 elections, two Black Panther Party leaders with violent criminal records stood outside a Philadelphia polling place, wearing paramilitary garb while wielding a billy club and saying threateningly racist things to white voters. It was a clear case of voter intimidation, and the Justice Department had already won a judgment against the two intimidators. All that was needed to formalize the judgment was to file papers with the judge — but then, the new Obama political overlords at Justice refused to file the papers, effectively dropping the already-won case.
Amid growing conservative uproar about the Obama team’s decision, department whistleblowers reported that the Obama team’s policy was that civil-rights laws should not be applied against black perpetrators who deprive the rights of white victims. The whole thing became a cause célèbre among conservative and moderate voters.
It comes directly from neo-Marxist Critical Race Theory which specifically states that non-whites/oppressed groups can never be racist and are only victims. It expressly not only excuses but promotes what the NBP did in Philly. Under CRT theft by an “oppressed group” is forced redistribution and is to be encouraged. It is literally race/identity group based communism. Thus the term, Communazi to describe adherents and practitioners.
Thanks for congrats (I wonder if cat allergies translate to lions…)! I’m not a fan of Scott Adams in general, but his “two movies” concept is a good one. (I also like his humor taxonomy, picking at least two of cleverness, familiarity, naughtiness, and a few other things I don’t remember.) And yeah, it definitely applies. While I candidly doubt either of us will ultimately persuade the other, I think on some level the reason I decided to share my thoughts here is out of some odd sense that because you all did me the kindness of showing me what’s on your screen from your perspective, I ought to do the same for you all.
I definitely agree that my experience regarding election security is, as you say, looking through a straw. I just feel I ought to share what I see through my straw, because it is, to the best of my ability to tell, real, and if you believe me can help you build a more complete model. I’m aware of many efforts by folks on the left to build more secure election infrastructure (which in practice pretty much means going backwards: the more electronic components of the voting system, the more opportunity for wholesale as opposed to boutique fraud). Regarding the specific things you all have brought up, such as 4:00 AM vote drops, frankly I don’t think I have much to add. If I look into them, I’ll probably find the same debunkings of those claims I find credible and you don’t, and we’ll each just be annoyed that the other person refuses to see the obvious truth. I’d rather talk about things where I have personal experience and a perspective that’s my own, even if it is through a straw.
I justify my vote based on the fact that they’re all a bunch of censorious bastards, left, right, and center. It’s pretty much a draw on that front, in my reckoning, with the only differences being in what manner they’d like to egregiously violate the First Amendment (ban speech? compel speech? some incoherent and unprincipled mix?). I instead vote based on other concerns, and take comfort in the fact that for quite a few decades now, the Supreme Court has taken a very expansive view of the First Amendment, in my eyes correctly so, so hopefully whatever efforts to do something that pisses me off on that front will be swatted down. Incidentally, I don’t think it’s quite right to say that there’s no such thing as hate speech. You could definitely point to a cluster of speech and term it hate speech, and as a definition, you wouldn’t be wrong. Now, I agree that it’s usually used as a political cudgel, and that there’s certainly no exception for it in the First Amendment, but I think it exists in the same sense as, say, pornography does.
Perhaps this is just me, but I dislike the careless use of “Nazi” and “communist”, especially when there are actually people who really espouse those views (as tiny splinters, but they exist). Obviously you all can’t see this, but I gripe about that in the lefter circles I frequent. Communists aren’t just lefties — they believe in an overriding economic class interest and consciousness that will only be fixed when the means of production are publicly owned and the ownership class is abolished (which, in practice, has usually meant killed, and by sheer coincidence the ownership class usually works out to include anyone the inevitably-arising singular leader doesn’t like). They have a bunch of specific beliefs, like the labor theory of value, etc. Now, I’m willing to allow some stretch of the term, in much the same way as I’m willing to stretch Nazi to encompass someone who doesn’t specifically limit the tolerable set of people to Germans, but in practice, damnit, these terms just get used as slurs at vast swathes of the political spectrum. Valuing “oomph” over accuracy is part of how the political climate gets more and more heated and our society frays. Sorry, this is one of my bugbears.
If you persist in dropping large blocks of text I fear you will find folks here getting terse with you and responding to your arguments only in part. This venue is not well suited to lengthy exchanges and people’s eyes tend to glaze over after the third paragraph.
On the matter of concerns over vote irregularities, those are not going to be resolved because any close inspection has been prevented. While I think the Trump campaign has over-stated its case (“release the kraken” indeed!) I also think those defending the voting have not acted like people with nothing to hide. Throughout American history there has been ample fraud by both sides when it comes to voting (my understanding of the most notorious instance, the Daley Machine’s 1960 contribution to the JFK campaign, is that Chicago did nothing that wasn’t being don in downstate Illinois, he just out-played them.) Any competent accountant can tell you there are ample procedural flaws and absence of controls throughout our system, such that few ballot counting systems can be relied upon.
That is a problem which this nation needs to address. You might find this exploration of the issue by Larry Correia, a successful author and former accountant, of use in seeing “our” screen:
One of these things is not like the other
I think, OTOH that the Trump campaign has UNDERSTATED its case. I think Biden got 25% of his supposed votes.
My evidence is psychological: their confidence in running an entirely potemkin campaign with two candidates their own side despises and ours finds repulsive.
As you might say, I’ve seen this film before.
The market is so corrupted the fraud must be the VAST majority of their voting.
Per numerical analysis from two independent sources, plus eyeballing of the various mystery spikes, I reached an estimate of 35M real Biden votes, 20M manufactured Biden votes, and the 25M balance of “Biden votes” being flipped Trump votes.
Which puts Trump’s real total at closing-on 100M votes. (IIRC the lowest number I could make work with the data was around 93M.)
Which means Biden’s real votes were around 40% of his supposed votes, but that difference is a quibble, not intrinsically significant. When you have galloping globs of garbage, one glob more or less makes no difference.
However, it sure does point up that the margin of fraud is WAAAAAY bigger than our worst fears.
[I know enough yellow-dog Democrat voters around L.A. to believe the FICUS did get a chunk of votes, mainly from the educated idiot and welfare classes.]
I keep a playlist of Interesting Stuff here:
It includes quite a lot of information on the election fraud.
There’s more in our local PermaThread, linked on the header.
BTW if it shows you how infiltrated the “Nazi” type groups are… that braindead “kidnapping plot” of Governor Whitmer? turned out of the (IIRC) five conspirators, 2 or 3 were Federal agents. Which is why it fell off the news so quick.
“When four men sit down to discuss conspiracy, three are government agents and the fourth is a fool.” — Tzarist Russian proverb
Side note: as of today, Germany is planning to send “quarantine breakers” to detention centers and “refugee camps”. Yeah, that’ll sure “stop the spread” …
Well, all they have to do is re-open Dachau, Sachsenhausen and Buchenwald…
No, these people are functionally of the communist religion.
Their group activity is based in magical thinking, a faith practice. And this faith practice can be positively identified to denomination. Not only are they of the Marxist heresy of Christianity, they are also of the state cult of the soviet union.
Peace is impossible in communist nations, even between communists.
Once it became clear that Democrats might take power with the aid of communist branded violence, like BLM and anti-fa, it was certain that Democrat communist features were not just cosmetic.
Leninists, Maoists, Stalinists, etc. will complain that it isn’t strictly doctrinaire Leninism, Maoism, or Stalinism, but this is a dishonest dodge. One of the features of the soviet state cult is that the local dictator is a great intellectual and the doctrinal version of the Pope. It matters not at all that Marxism-Leninism Despot One Thought is on surface features completely different from Marxism-Leninism Despot Two Thought. Policies and surface features are only excuses for the local dictator to murder people as an exercise of power, and communists practice the common deeper features of the faith by sucking up to people who use power that way.
Trump’s only real crime was in failing to realize that peace with the Democrats was impossible, without the Democrats first being slain.
So… you’re an insane shill for Maoism, and you feel really confident about that.
I hope they come for you first.
“Do not trust China. China is asshoe.”
Your argument against fraud rests on the idea that because you know and trust one person who acted in a manner other than similar to promoting fraud, the entire thing doesn’t exist.
That…isn’t how it works.
Some of the witnesses who swore that there was fraud, and massive, open fraud, are Democrats.
The lack of detail to the state level even means we can’t check your claims to find out if the story is anything like you say.
I can’t speak for Sarah, but:
1) The reasons some of us are opposed to expansion of the “social safety net” are that:
a) We can’t afford it to keep growing. “Entitlement” programs have made it politically impossible to control chronic deficit spending. America has a vast and growing unpaid public debt and its growth is not sustainable. The interest alone is now the largest single item in federal budget, and the tax rates required to keep up with it, as well as the federal “safety net” are a brake on the economy. The Republican party made a great deal of this in the 1970s and 1980s but has pretty much surrendered on this issue. There are still many people who anticipate and fear that it will eventually lead to an economic collapse. It hasn’t happened yet, as many people feared that it would have by now, but an impending catastrophe cannot be indefinitely postponed, especially if it is ignored.
b) Government handouts kill incentive for people to improve their own lives, and the “means testing” employed to be sure that recipients qualify for aid creates a barrier to becoming financial independent.
c) It is a subtle form of political corruption, buying votes from the public treasury.for the party that promises the most benefits. (Traditionally, it was Republicans that gave handouts to corporations and Democrats to the impoverished, but now Democrats are doing both.)
d) It is being extended to noncitizens, those who have not gone through the naturalization process that is required of legal immigrants, which again benefits one party more than the other.
e) Much of the difficulty faced by the health care system can be traced to government regulation of one form or other (not all of it Federal). for instance i) the artificial restrictions on health care professionals imposed by licensing, and the ii) burdens of pharmaceutical companies imposed by required testing for safety and effectiveness; and iii) the high cost of malpractice insurance due to inordinate awards, iv) the sheer paperwork and encumbrance required by government-mandated reporting. Most of us who have experience with the downside of government intervention do not trust that “more government” will fix the problems government helped create in the first place.
2) It is practically taken for granted among academics that Marx was a great social thinker and political theorist, His ideas have become ubiquitous and subtly pervasive, even if the collapse of the Soviet Leninist variety has discredited some of them. In particular and in contrast to the violent revolutionary approach, adopted by Lenin, Fabian socialism, or the “gradual” approach to the Marxist ideal heavily influenced the Labour Party in the UK, especially after WWII, and has become entrenched in the United States, and the even more destructive Gramscian approach originating in Italy is quite openly espoused in influential academic circles.
3) The number of high level or highly public members of the Democratic party who have more or less openly declared that Republicans or right-wingers are public enemies and that their speech or political activity should be monitored, restricted or punished is alarming, When academics, corporate figures, and popular entertainers say the same things, it naturally leads to suspicion that the First Amendment will be increasingly selectively applied, (just as laws against rioting, arson, and looting are being selectively applied) and that the courts will succumb to pressure to give unequal protection to those who disagree with the party in power. It is one thing to recognize that the American ideal of equal justice for all has never been perfectly achieved. It is something else to give it lip service only It is still something else for it to be abandoned entirely.
A few points of commentary:
1(a). I don’t actually think unfunded deficit spending is a problem for the government. Obviously, it’s very bad for an individual or household, but the US government operates on such a different scale (and has the ability to print money) that the comparison falls apart. While yes, printing money can lead to severe inflation, which is bad, we’re no where near the point where that’s happening. If anything, inflation is lower than it’s been historically. I’m not an economist, and I’m well aware that even among actual economists, there’s disagreement on a lot of important topics, so I’m not especially certain in my view on this point.
1(e). Oh, yeah, the US healthcare system is a mess, and many of the problems are from government intervention. But I don’t think that it follows that government intervention is necessarily a problem in healthcare. Canada and the UK have much more government intervention than we do, but, while it’s hard to directly compare healthcare systems, they aren’t commensurately worse. I’d be fine with a system closer to what they have, or a system where the government wholly gets out of healthcare, or frankly pretty much any system other than this horribly dysfunctional middle ground we’re stuck in.
2. Yeah, there’s a lot more embracement of a discredited economist and sociologist than I’d like. Fortunately, that’s mostly away from the part that educates the most load-bearing parts of our society, like engineers. Still, at least among the college professors I had not too long ago (though admittedly in a technical field), the modal position was milquetoast liberalism, with a noted exception of my advisor who was a ferocious libertarian who taught gun safety classes in his spare time.
3. I am personally something of a free speech absolutist. I have a fair amount of faith in the Supreme Court to uphold the First Amendment. I am definitely uncomfortable with the censoriousness of many Democratic politicians and public figures: in a democracy, one of the most vital rights is the right to be wrong. But, as I see it, contempt for free speech principles and selective enforcement is something universal in politics. Both Biden and Trump want to deal an awful blow to internet communities by repealing Section 230. The political correctness on the left is mirrored by patriotic correctness on the right (see e.g. unconstitutional bans on flag burning). There’s very few politicians who really believe in the First Amendment, so it’s mostly just people jockeying over who gets to be the censor. I don’t trust any faction to regulate speech, and fortunately I have the Supreme Court in my corner.
As a Canadian, “commensurately worse” would be a hell of an understatement. Our surgical wait issues alone would drive you screaming for purely private healthcare
The millions of Canadians who cross the border to pay for health care in America rather than rely on their ‘free’ socialized medicine agree with you.
In Canada, the wait for an MRI scan is three months or more. In the United States, it might be three hours — unless you’re forced to rely on the VA. Everybody knew 0bamacare was going to fail; they just thought The Anointed One would be safely out of office before it imploded. Last year, Italian hospitals simply refused to treat patients over 70 years old. And the horror stories about British National Health just don’t bear thinking on.
Under socialized medicine, each patient incurs expenses which end when the patient dies. In private practice, each patient provides profits which end when the patient dies. Which patient would YOU rather be?
1) The mathematics of balance apply to all entities at all scales, and the growth of interest on an expanding debt is inexorable. I don’t know exactly what will break first and start an avalanche of cascading catastrophic failures in the current economic system or when it will happen, but I am now certain that it will occur.
2) Science, mathematics, and engineering won’t escape the pervasive academic rot originating in Marxian dialectic that has permeated and essentially destroyed what used to be termed the liberal arts. They may be the last things to go, but they will go.
3) A faith in the Supreme Court as the guardian of the First Amendment strikes me as naive. I do not share it. It’s all too easy for the Court to rewrite the rules of society with its effective veto of not only Federal but state and local legislation, and all too easy for the combined efforts of Congress and the Executive branch to alter the composition and balance of the Court.
On point #1, interest rates on US debt have been historically low. If they go up even as little as half a point our cost of servicing that debt grows tremendously, either crowding out discretionary spending or forcing increased taxes — which suppress economic activity and slow economic growth.
How It Affects You
The interest on the national debt immediately reduces the money available for other spending programs. As it increases over the next decade, advocates of certain benefits will call for a reduction in spending in other areas.
In the long term, a growing debt burden becomes a big problem for everyone. The World Bank says a country reaches a tipping point when the debt-to-GDP ratio approaches or exceeds 77%. In the fourth quarter of 2019, the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio was 107%.
Gross domestic product measures a country’s entire economic output. When a country’s debt is close to or greater than the entire country’s production, lenders worry whether the country will repay them. In fact, lenders did become concerned in 2011 and 2013, when tea party Republicans in Congress threatened to default on the U.S. debt.
Once lenders become concerned, they demand higher interest rates. Buyers of U.S. Treasuries appreciate the security of knowing they will be repaid. They’ll want compensation for the increased risk. Diminished demand for U.S. Treasuries would further increase interest rates, which slows economic growth.
Lower demand for Treasuries also puts downward pressure on the dollar. That’s because the dollar’s value is tied to that of Treasury securities. As the dollar declines, foreign holders get paid back in currency that is worth less. That further decreases demand and creates a vicious cycle.
The rising interest on the debt worsens the U.S. debt crisis. Over the next 20 years, the Social Security Trust Fund won’t have enough to cover the retirement benefits promised to seniors. Congress could find ways to reduce benefits or otherwise change the program rather than raise taxes. For example, some are talking about privatizing Social Security.
Probably are going.
The genius technical management of Jinping Xi thought is added to the ChiCom curriculum, but the Chinese undergraduates were already getting courses of that crap. Have you seen how many graduate students are from China?
Add on all the representation push, and American STEM programs would have a tendency towards problems.
I would be very surprised if the administrators aren’t going to clamp down more. The international students definitely don’t have the confidence to stand up to the university administration.
So, Gardener, I’m curious: Do you not care that Biden and his family got rich off corruption and graft, or do you just brush off all the evidence as “conspiracy theory”?
Also, on that totally above board election: https://stream.org/one-last-word-on-the-election/
Addressing the single point of government expansion of the money supply:
1. Inflation penalizes savings – this is so straight forward I won’t waste time supporting it. If you need it explained that can be done later.
2. Inflation penalizes investment. It creates spurious gains which are than taxed as if actual. Simple model explanation: You buy a house in 2000 for $200K, maintain it without significant improvements and sell it in 2020 for $250K. That would represent a $50K capital gain on which you pay taxes, right? (I realize the gain on a residence is effectively untaxed – I said it would be a simplified model.)
Except the value of the dollar, due to government printing, has fallen 50% in that period, meaning that to break even you’d have had to sell that home for $300K, thus your $50K profit was actually a $50K loss on your investment – and that is without the salt-in-the-wound of taxes on that false profit. (Not gonna quibble over whether my math is right nor whether the inflation rate is reasonable – the basic example holds.)
3. Back when I first started working the minimum wage was about $0.95 and a movie ticket cost $1.50 — meaning I had to work an hour and a half at minimum wage to see a movie (another half hour if I wanted popcorn, soda and a candy bar.) In the 1980s I was working part-time in a movie theatre and customers complained about the (then) $5.00 ticket price, which got me to thinking and the realization hit that, at that time, with minimum wage running about $3.35 a person had to work an hour and a half at MW to buy a movie ticket. Now, with minimum wage about $7.25 and a movie ticket running $12.00 it still takes an hour and a half of minimum wage work to see a movie.
Increased minimum wage is a White Queen’s race, having no effect upon the fundamental economies correlating productivity to value, merely driving inflation and distorting prices as a measure of economic health. If the government ruing the printing presses does not show up in the inflation rate you can be sure that is because the liars are doing the figures, you are looking at the wrong measures of inflation, or the money supply is so diluted that additional printing is like pissing into the ocean — it is already too late to have any effect and we’re all going to drown.
Ahhh…that would be the Red Queen’s Race.
“A slow sort of country!” quoth the Queen. “”Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!”
Or, as I always say:
Governments can only print money; they can’t make it worth anything. They can make it worth nothing.
Thanks – it’s been a while since I had cause to reference that work and what with the MSM daily demanding I believe six impossible things before breakfast I confess I’ve gotten my queens confused.
I strongly disagree that Biden has principles. He is one of the most provably corrupt members of our corrupt central government. The phrase “Biden Crime Family” is only too true: he and his family have been gathering millions and millions of dollars from selling influence for decades.
I am guessing from your lack of knowledge about things well known on the right that you draw your information almost completely from the Democrat media, which has been very actively censoring and suppressing information which goes contrary to the Democrat “narrative”. (Did you even know they’ve been doing that? It’s not a sign of truthiness.) I suggest that you expand your sources of information. I’m sure opinions on suitable places to start vary, but Instapundit, Townhall, The Federalist, American Thinker are a few places to start.
As far as resources for getting things you write to where other people can actually see it, that’s a problem a lot of people have been struggling with. So far there aren’t any great solutions, though it does depend on what you write. Substack is an option if you’re not a fiction writer.
I’m going to guess it never heard of the laptop from hell, or solid evidence of Chinese compromat and buying the entire family. Oh, and Commie LaWhorish too.
Oh, I’m aware of that stuff, though my assessment of it no doubt differs from yours. (That said, while the repair shop story for Hunter Biden’s laptop is very suspect, I’m inclined to believe the content is real, and I’m rather peeved at the concerted blackout on it from sources besides the New York Post.)
Well well well…. about that Red-and-Yellow Sinister-Liberty flyer…
“Black Civics” (@CivicsBlack) is in thick with “American Descendants of Slavery”, aka take whitey’s money for ‘reparations’.
Also, from one of the comments:
Go to twitter and search the #J20 hashtag. There’s MANY leftist factions that are planning things for the inauguration. Look to Crimethinc DOT com and you will see for yourself who they are. These people are pure anarchists and they mean to destroy the country.
Definitely look at crimethinc.
A commenter there points to a free template at https://www.canva.com/templates/EAEJDWCVkYo-yellow-and-red-campaign-posters/ — I think that’s probably the ultimate source. Still isn’t in the right’s idiom, so I still think it’s a false flag.
Noted that, but also that template takes some thought to get to if you don’t have a direct link. So I find it VERY unlikely that two unrelated and diametrically opposed outfits (us and them) would independently dredge up and use the same template. One more strike in the False Flag column.
Much of the attention on the new House focused on removal of “gendered” terminology, but that seems a distraction from more serious changes:
Pelosi’s Top Priority: Consolidating Power
Her first bills in the new Congress would dilute ballot integrity and make D.C. a state.
By The Editorial Board
Jan. 14, 2021 6:34 pm ET
After impeaching Donald Trump again, what do Democrats want to do with their new dominance of Washington? It’s revealing that Speaker Nancy’s Pelosi’s first legislative priority is cementing Democratic political power.
Last week House Democrats reintroduced as H.R.1 a voting and campaign-finance bill that would grease the Democratic voting machine nationwide and restrict political opposition. They also introduced a bill to provide statehood for the District of Columbia that would guarantee Democrats two new Senate seats.
H.R.1 imposes California-style election rules nationwide. The bill requires every state to register voters based on names in state and federal databases—such as anyone receiving food stamps or who interacts with a state DMV. It mandates same-day and online voter registration, expands mail and early voting, and limits states’ ability to remove voters from rolls. Overall the bill is designed to auto-enroll likely Democratic voters, enhance Democratic turnout, with no concern for ballot integrity.
The bill also strips state legislatures of their role in drawing congressional districts, replacing them with commissions that are ostensibly independent. In practice commissions have turned out mostly to favor Democrats, as in New Jersey and California. If states want such commissions, so be it. But this is an attempt to impose one Pelosi standard from coast to coast.
H.R.1’s campaign-finance provisions would also limit the political speech of conservatives and Republicans. The bill requires some nonprofits to disclose publicly the names of donors who give more than $10,000, even if those groups aren’t taking part in candidate elections. The left’s pressure groups and media will then stigmatize donors. The bill also raises disclosure requirements for political ads on radio and TV, requiring the head of an organization to approve messages and list the group’s top donors by name.
It also imposes new disclosure and reporting requirements on online platforms that run paid political advertising, some of which go beyond or are at variance with standards placed on radio or TV ads. And the bill restructures the Federal Election Commission from a split of three Democratic and three Republican commissioners to two each plus an “independent.” That deciding vote will almost always vote left given the Beltway’s political and media balance of power.
As for D.C. statehood, the U.S. hasn’t admitted new states since 1959, and the admission of Hawaii and Alaska that year was designed to balance what was at the time one new Republican-leaning state with one Democratic state. The D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood movements are naked attempts to enlarge the Democrats’ Senate majority. It isn’t even clear D.C. can be admitted without a constitutional amendment, given that the Founders created a federally controlled district in the seat of U.S. government to maintain federal sovereignty.
The GOP Senate blocked H.R.1 in the last Congress, but Joe Biden has endorsed many of its principles and all that stands in its way now is the Senate legislative filibuster. The progressive goal is to use the narrow Democratic majority to consolidate a permanent one.
Well, alrighty then.
of course. It’s what they do EVERY time they took a state by fraud. Make it so fraud was eternal and htey were forever in power.
Yep, and if they pack the Supreme Court, the constitutional prohibitions against what they seek to do will be rendered meaningless.
So… do we obey their illegal orders??
There’s going to come a point where enough people say NO.
They already OWN the supreme court.
I’ll point out that DC and PR aren’t something to worry about from a voting perspective*: because nothing matters if the fraud isn’t taken care of, and if the fraud is taken care of does it really matter whether the DNC wins 4 states instead of 2?
* DC of course has other reasons to exclude from statehood.
Sarah? I had a long reply to our newbie liberal friend. Did WP eat it or is it in some queue somewhere? Thanks.
I just freed it.
For reasons known only to WP it was in spam….
Thanks! WP suddenly started being wonky on the Brave browser — the action bar at the top disappeared and I have to enter my details and give WP my password every time now.
It’s not just on brave browser.
Whole internet has been stupid all day. Things like sites not being arsed to send the CSS along with the text. Discount phone service is also iffy (when they’re overloaded, us cheapskates get throttled). Methinks it’s just excessive traffic; been this way off and on since the 6th.
except for when it ain’t
When you’re on the $15 cellphone plan, and your next door neighbor is on the same carrier’s $50 plan, and your neighbor’s phone still works just fine but yours goes iffy during traffic spikes, and it’s very consistent… kinda obvious they throttle the lower-value accounts when bandwidth gets clogged. (Also, confirmed this with someone in the business.)
But yeah, sometimes it ain’t, and that’s something to be watching out for. Unfortunately all the consumer-level accounts have a “we not liable” clause.
Occurs to me that in a case like Parler… Parler suing Amazon won’t make much of a splash and will be foot-dragged forever by the courts. 40 million Parler users in a class action suit, tho… much as I dislike that usually-bogus process, this might be a time to leverage it, and if nothing else it could be very noisy, to alert the normies.
former neighbor in Texas and I had a WIFI internet service and to prevent throttling during gaming (he and his wife gamed a lot, more than their 13 year old) they had a business account using a license his wife had for some failed home biz she tried. I was on a different tower, but I also didn’t game. But I could tell when school let out and the kids got home but how my connection acted.
Can you imagine how much more activity they’re having right now?
Even my cousins don’t trust Facebook….
Saw that the FBI is “investigating” whether the person who allegedly took Nancy Pelosi’s laptop did so to sell to the Russians; because even now they are pushing the bogus Trump-Russia collusion canard. Of course, the Russians and CCP don’t need Malignancy’s laptop; with the lapse security that Democrats are famous for, they almost certainly have the full contents of her laptop long before it went missing.
Note that this is the same Nancy Pelosi who had no problem and shut down investigation of Democrats having their IT work done by Pakistanis with terrorist ties who were caught sending info from Congressional computer systems to Pakistan.
They actually did the equivalent of that “sue and settle” thing and gave them a bunch of money for ever investigating them at all.
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