See this: Longer Lockdowns Associated with Much Worse Economic Outcomes.
And this: How Did Spending on Health Care Plunge During a Pandemic?
And definitely this: The Virus Doesn’t Care about Your Policies.
Now we know — of course we do — that our “elites” aren’t smarter or more competent than the rest of us. In fact since the intellectual and… credential-granting elites in this country have been taken over by the socialists at least 4 generations, we’re suffering from the socialist 4th generation rot that comes from hiring, promoting and giving accolades based on ideological purity, instead of merit. To put it mildly, most of these people couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.
Though of course, some of the more competent older generations remain.
At any rate, we know they’re a bunch of incompetents, blinded by their Marxist cult. But–
But even for them this bizarre bonfire of destruction of global wealth and American wealth (Europe did worse than us out of this. People are already starving in third world countries. America, as usual is doing better. We probably won’t starve. But it’s going to be a mighty close shave most places in this country. And if you want to know how much wealth is being destroyed daily — not reported — look at people whose businesses are closing, or take a stroll through stuff like craigslist or letgo for your area. I’ve never, not even in the depth of Obamanomics saw so many households in the “free” section, with “have to move.” Yeah. People have to move when their livelihood is taken away.
So…. what is with the entire world jumping on the “let’s burn everything and destroy wealth” bandwagon when it was not only completely unproven, but it’s been obvious for two or three months now it does nothing?
I’ve been watching Foyle’s war. I think the last time there was this kind of wealth destruction, immiseration and destruction of the links between people, or civil liberties and free market was during WWII.
Nota bene. Every time that communism has been imposed, it is after this type of disruption. More importantly, every time that socialism, like what grips Europe and has a foothold here, was imposed on societies, it was in the wake of this type of disruption. Even FDR needed the Great Depression, which he worsened and prolonged.
Also note that from the fitful and incoherent revolt in France, to the voting going against them in England, to even German farmers rebelling against their globalist Green Slavery masters.
The peasants had to be put in their place, but how? They need to realize how much they need their benevolent masters. They need to be convinced socialism and internationalism and the power of the state are their only salvation.
Well, they had great hopes Trump would start a war, with their needling countries everywhere to oppose us. That didn’t happen, and at any rate, they weren’t sure it could cause fast and vast destruction. After all, Trump has shown an ability to actually govern that Obama never had. Oh, yeah, Obama did his best to destroy world economy and convince the ungrateful peasants socialism was the only salvation. He’s still trying, but the little man who wasn’t there was about as good for their purposes as for everything else, except enriching himself.
Thereby they — it remains to be known if China was the mastermind or implicated. Judging from Dr. Fauci’s ties to the Wuhan lab, I believe so. Though it’s hard to say which is the dog and which the tail — started the psy-ops operation we know as the Covid-19 crisis.
They leveraged the power they had remaining: mass media. And they kept people tied to it with lockdowns. And they convinced people to let the government dictate whom they can associate with, under what circumstances, and whether or not they can earn/make a living.
And it worked, so far. Magnificently.
How does it go from here? Well, ignore the riots. They are not the revolution. They’re kabuki theater.
As we all know Cassandra didn’t get half the kicking around she deserved. However, my prediction is that they’ll largely unlock in September. Then when the normal colds and flu start, they’ll all be Covid-19, and they’ll slam us in lockdown again. And people will go along “out of consideration for their neighbors.”
And then, regardless of who wins the elections, by the end of next year, they’ll have a nation of beggars. Beggars who — they think — will be ready to take the yoke of their redeeming socialism again.
They forget several things, including the fact that socialism really is NOT new and untried. And that this crisis was so obviously ginned up that people know. Enough people — I think — remember and will remember.
Also, although these are the plans of second and third generation socialists, the ones executing them are fourth generation. Again, not able to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.
I’m going to guess it will all go sour on them, and what results will be nothing like international socialism.
But with all that, given the people who think the way out of international nationalism is national socialism, those who think that the opposite of forcing women and minorities into upper positions is forcing them into lower, those who think that the opposite of caste system is a different caste system, just because they will lose, it doesn’t mean we immediately win.
What it means is that they’re going to make things hard, very hard for those of us who thirst for freedom.
These next few years will be centuries long for all of us. And I don’t know how many of us see the end of this.
It is as they used to say, “cultural and social forces.” It’s not quite, but there is a reason that the crash is coming now. Several reasons, including the fact that the new tech doesn’t favor them, and that they’re suffering form 4th generation rot.
It is just our luck to live at this time. It is also our privilege.
Prepare. Resist. Real resistance, not the usual leftist theater. Protest. Spread the word of what this is all about. Make predictions, over and again.
And in September, make whatever final preparations you can, for yourself and those you can help.
We — any of us — might not make it to the end of this mess. But–
But our beliefs will. And that’s the other thing: make your kids competent. Make sure. Make sure they work for everything, make sure they learn and work. Make sure.
Because in the end we win, they lose. It’s already started. But it’s neither going to be easy nor simple.
We’re in this because they’re losing. But they’re going to put us through hell on the way there.
Well– And why not? Someone has to fight back.
Head up. be not afraid!
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Here in Texas, Wal-Mart is sending out the back to school ads anyway.
Don’t know about ads … we don’t get the local rag. But Back-to-School section is already setup in Fred Meyers (Krogers). Kids locally typically don’t go back until Tues (k – Freshman HS) or Wed (rest of HS) after Labor Day.
Per neighbor, our district isn’t going back to in class. She’d know. She’s reading aid in neighborhood grade school (across the street, essentially), and she & hubby have six kids at all three levels.
They are also of the households that can’t handle kids learning at home. He is not home all week (doesn’t matter where he lives, he won’t be home, it is the job, not one he gets to work from home with) unless working in the area (guess how much that happens 🙂 hint – not very often). For reasons, they didn’t have internet nor computers (don’t know the reasons, just know they didn’t have them). Don’t know if they got internet, or they are dialing in to the kids’ lessons, using tablets/laptops provided by and setup by the district. Just know that a good portion of the time that setup isn’t working and she can’t get district IT to answer the phone, or it is going into indefinite IT support hold/wait state which she isn’t willing to hold on for (complaint is she can’t get IT help). Then the replacement packets, to replace the online packet, require the lesson to read or otherwise do something that requires the connection (a lot of someones didn’t think that through). Her husband’s ex isn’t having any better luck with her 3 the week she has them.
My comment is “Oh wow!” [I am staying out of that mess. I’m retired. They couldn’t pay me enough, let alone volunteer, to get involved in that mess. Besides, I wrote software, what do I know about hardware or connection problems? Let alone software I didn’t write? IF I was stupid enough to tell them that.]
Haven’t talked to my sister about what what the other local districts are doing. She’d know about the district her granddaughter s/b going to, at least. Do know that the current climate is at least preventing my niece with Lupus from being an (bigger) idiot & forcing her to physically come in to work VS work at home. Her micromanaging boss is a PIA as it is (from her view – along the lines of “No meetings before 10 AM” then boss complains she isn’t available for meetings at 8 AM without a toddler in the background … her husband takes the kids to grandparents at 9:30 AM). Niece is definitely someone who benefits from shutdown to force employers to allow working at home social pressure on employers. Otherwise she’d be out of a job no matter what the doctors told her employers, even with her on file approved work accommodations.
Yeah, for the past couple weeks I’ve been on a contract with one of the local school districts prepping laptops for the students. I remarked that their help desk is going to get hammered when it starts.Hope they don’t remember I have a lot of help desk experience. 😮
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I’m sorry … 🙂
I mean it. I’ve done support. Twice. Never (in theory the official job focus) First job was internal and dealing with Foresters. People I also designed & wrote software for. Second time, my last job, was for external company clients, but again, an aside to the main job as programmer. Just there was no support division (or testing division, or even design one, programmers did it all). Clients were county/city employees, usually accountants & bookkeepers, but not 100%, because there was a shop module that mechanics used. But it was JUST the software. Sure we occasionally got into the hardware, accounting, or county policy, issue, not a thing I can help with. Call your IT or boss. Then there were the -2 * -1 is suppose to be -2, not 2, sigh …
I also, even now, unpaid, have to provide support to mom & my husband. Overheard my husband on a support call to the golf handicap site. “What! You are making me get my wife involved in the computer support?” (Checking “remember me” on a a log in wasn’t saving the new password. It never does. Hilarity ensues.) My mom borrowed my laptop to do something for her insurance that wouldn’t run on her tablet (probably would have but …). She triggered another app accidentally and panicked because it was asking for a password, she thought she’d been kicked off the other app when she was 2/3 done of a long process. Two second fix with admonishment “don’t do that” & look your app is still running. Fifteen minutes to get over there. She swore that it was her app that was asking for the password …
Yeah, my husband is one of those kind – clueless about tech, but doesn’t want to admit that the “little woman” knows what she is doing.
He’s a sweetie, though.
I worked a Help Desk. Most of the time, OK – but, I had a sign over my desk.
“Anyone who says there is no such thing as a stupid question never worked a Help Desk.”
Though sometimes the user thinks its a stupid question and yet it’s actually a pretty good one for them to ask. Especially before they try something unfortunate.
I’ve never worked Help Desk. I’ve met end users, though, and I can believe the story about being taught to answer the question, “Which is the ‘any’ key?” with “It’s another name for the enter key.”
At the first computer company I worked for, we did hardware and software and support, and after the 1000th call asking about the any key, our hardware guys had space bars made up with the word “any” on them.
Having had the misfortune of working Comcast helpdesk once in my life, that was a job I was relieved to lose after a while. We honestly couldn’t do much for the severe cases that required in-the-US techs, who HATED being forwarded jobs, and refused to work with us 80% of the time.
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Symantic has or used to have call center in Springfield/Eugene Oregon area. Every 18 months, regularly they were looking for employees. I’ve heard/read help center burn rates are 18 months … I’ve been desperate enough to apply. I wasn’t lucky enough to get in for an interview, let alone a job.
I was at my last job for 12 years, which did support. But that wasn’t the job. The job was programming. Were there days I wanted to take the dang phone & fling it? Sure. But it wasn’t the focus of the job. Third time same question? Write something up with pictures & circled. Certain regular callers soon learned if they called, & I sent a document. They had better not engage in the “cellophane sealed I read the manual/document” BS (proof they didn’t read it). Not with me. They could try it with the guys. But if I found out about it (and I did) I’d send that person the document too. That did not help the caller in the future with that programmer. The others were less forgiving than I was. It cut down the calls dramatically, to days where there weren’t any. OTOH by my last job, it wasn’t my first rodeo. While I can say I provided support. In no way was my experience that of a call center. You have my sympathy.
I’ve used Comcast Help Desk. Via the chat features (not stupid enough to call). They were helpful. Modem needed replacing. My only regret, & this wasn’t the support’s fault, that once diagnosed, I should have just taken the old modem down to the local support store to swap it, rather than have them send me the replacement (no shipping cost regardless as it was “forgiven”). Problem is they sent 3, which then charge shipping on two of them … sigh. Got the appropriate credits, eventually, but that was a PIA. Since they add the charges to the bill you can’t just challenge the inappropriate charge on your credit card, it is buried. It has to be reversed. Plus a couple instances of negative shipping cost * -quantity = another bad shipping cost charge (& I thought only government accountants pulled that). The old unit & extra two were dropped off at the local service center. No way was I taking any chances.
I’ve gotten a lot of miles out of asking folks who are tearing their hair out– justly!– from doing tech support, if they have ever pulled an all nighter and then worked the next day.
Then ask, how much brain did you have left at about half an hour after you were supposed to finally get to go home?
Assume that the person you’re talking to is at about that point, and if there was anybody with half a brain in the same room they would take one look at your caller and drive them home.
We’re having issues with the equity solutions: donated laptops and Wi-Fi hotspots being sold for cash.
Don’t know about the other local districts. Our district is checking out laptops & families are responsible, donated or not. Don’t know how the hotspots are being handled. Guessing same way. So, no laptop or wifi, because someone sold them, they have to pay for them. How do TPTB expect to get blood money out of turnips, who knows? District has more than it’s fair share of the homeless families with children. Primarily because the services & what housing there is, is dab smack in the middle of the district.
I joke that our house is on the “wrong side of the tracks” from most of the district & the one main HS. Only not the traditional sense. It is the 1/3 that is solid middle to slightly middle class.
“Our district is checking out laptops & families are responsible, donated or not.”
Has anyone actually checked? And when they found families who had done exactly that, did anyone get prosecuted? (If the second answer is NO, so is the answer to the first question.
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IDK …. WAG? Heck, Not A Chance In Heck ,,,
Oh, IMAGINE my surprise!
[eye rolls out of the head]
Yeah. I worked in schools – urban, suburban, rural. The ‘loss’ each year could have paid for SEVERAL teachers salaries. Mostly ignored because – couldn’t act against ‘Those people’. So, they viewed the freebies from schools as a quick and painless source of cash. Never mind that the schools (generally) would not issue another techy device until the previous was was either found or paid for.
Too bad, kid. Your family doesn’t give a rat’s ass about you.
Yes. The day that [Fill in “Life at the Bottom” Category here] actually start giving a tinker’s curse for their own lives and that of their kids, we’d see a revolution.
Until then it:s all gas-lighting and kabuki.
Doesn’t matter if they go back to school or not. They are still going to charge us on our property taxes. And the idiots went ahead and passed the school levy here this spring, even though the school hadn’t been open.
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Definitely.
Locally that will bite them. Getting stuff passed isn’t easy as it is. This? Nail. Coffin.
Every retailer is doing back to school. What else can they do? Which means cultural inertia is working against this, too
A lot of that is “pipeline”. They might have 5-year contracts for notebook paper or backpacks; they have to pay for it even if they refuse the shipments. So it goes on the shelf. And, hey, just because the kids “going to school online” doesn’t mean they have no use for supplies.
That, and big sales events like this are planned out far in advance. All of the promotional displays were probably already ordered when the shutdowns started. The stores need to have *something* to get the shoppers in, and Back to School is the option on-hand.
And at the very least, parents might need to pick up some supplies, even if they don’t need all of them.
I have seen stuff about some absurd supply lists, but leaving all that aside, I will admit that there’s always a little part of me that wants to go grab up some notebooks and stuff….
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That has changed in the last 26 years, how? Grade school the lists had quantities so those that could should supply extra for those who can’t or won’t. BS. We refused. Oh certain items we got extras. But the extras did not go to school to be doled out at the teachers discretion. We did donate. But we did it under a voluntary donation, not forced. Primarily because otherwise the donation comes out of the teacher and we could afford to. But we were clear what we were doing. We didn’t always do donations too. Sometimes we were in the boat that we could afford our child’s supplies, but not extra.
I usually check the lists because I’m curious how much I’d be spending for the “free” school…. I vaguely remember that several times, the list for ONE kid would be more than I got for ALL of mine. They’d ask for the expensive brands, too. (F that.) I seem to remember the kinder-list in Washington wanted us to bring two backpacks, for the most outrageous….
64oz Pinesol, two of the big hand sanitizer bottles, big bunch of paper towels, big container of Kleenex (must be Kleenex(tm) ), two reams of printer paper, and such were standard.
What amazes me is schools don’t have basic supplies, but per pupil spending in the median district could pay a teach my salary (including benefits) with 1/3 of the money left over for facilities, admin, and supplies in a 20 student room and I’m in freaking banking.
The amount of parasitism that must be build into such budgets is beyond imagination.
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They sure do not. What the teachers do have comes out of their own pocket. Maybe grants if lucky enough to get one or two. Or campaigns put on by local retailers. Otherwise those that can, provide for those who won’t or can’t. They start teaching socialist sharing in grade K.
“… could pay a teach my salary (including benefits) with 1/3 of the money left over”
I suspect that the benefits, even with pensions woefully underfunded, exceed that 1/3 excess. But you miss a critical point: that money isn’t going to teachers, it is going to administrators, counselors, program specialists and other supernumeraries.
And, of course, there are not only union dues but also non-teaching union organizers paid teacher’s salaries by the state.
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And a number of those extra staff are required by federal law. “Special Education, mainstreaming, diversity” and so on. It’s like the universities. Administrators now outnumber teaching faculty. (Which is why everyone’s “a professional educator” instead of teacher now.)
Required by Federal law, largely paid for by Federal aid, and generally to no net educational benefit, so all that Federal money is a wash … except for the amount siphoned off by bureaucrats.
It’s no wonder charter schools out-perform public schools — they are required to produce observable results.
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I’m not missing that point. I was trying to make it.
And I said my salary including benefits before the 1/3 left over. I’m using the standard rule of thumb of benefits at 50% of salary (which is probably a bit high at the level of salary I collect).
Sorry – it wasn’t clear you meant pay a teacher’s salary and benefits
You S&B probably doesn’t include near as generous a pension — yours is defined contribution as opposed to their defined benefits, right? — and unlike a union teacher your medical insurance includes contributions, co-pays and deductibles, right?
And, of course, you can be fired for poor or non-performance.
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the ‘communal supplies’ every kid is supposed to bring might get sorted out this year, since ‘no sharing with covid’
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Sounds about right.
Donated items were NOT brand names … They were also informed that kid was NOT sharing his supplies, and would tattle if forced to.
I know a relative sent her daughter to school with a backpackw ith her favorite character on it.
The school stole it for redistribution.
The mother went into the office and informed them that she would be filing a criminal complaint if they did not return the backpack, RIGHT DAMNED NOW.
Teachers know they can bully the kids. They also knew they couldn’t bully the cops.
Whiskey tango foxtrot
Oh yes. Got that all the time in school. I had pencils, paper, etc? Give them up or else.
Never mind that… let us say, my financial condition was far more straitened than my classmates. They just didn’t bring in stuff. Why should they, when they could take mine with the teacher’s blessing?
“Oh yes. Got that all the time in school. I had pencils, paper, etc? Give them up or else.”
With the single exception of one miserable year spent in Princeton NJ’s public school, any of my public school teachers who tried that would have done it only ONCE.
Jesus hopping Christ on a jet powered pogo stick, what are parents THINKING?
Oh, BTW, hooray you!
Mostly that they can’t afford private or homeschooling and that protesting gets their kid put on a list not just for active harassment by teachers but overt or covert signals to the little savages around their child “Free pass on this one!”
Sales tax holiday in Ohio, from August 7 through August 9, 2020. School supplies up to twenty bucks an item, instructional materials up to twenty bucks an item, and clothing up to seventy-five bucks an item. With handy tools so that parents and teachers can find the items that count for Tax-Free Weekend.
Oh heck no, businesses are not going to avoid Back to School sales. In fact, we’re calling ours something like “super saver event,” but privately all the swenttores around here are calling it the new Black Friday.
I am walking my sister in law through homeschooling her preschooler and first grader– they were horrified when the girl who went into kindergarten reading now can’t manage cat, and this mess has given them the excuse they need to actually teach the kids.
I suspect a LOT of people are going to homeschool.
My sister is using different than approved school techniques to teach her granddaughter (grandparents babysit the two grandchildren). Youngest isn’t in school yet. Reading time is older grandchild reading to toddler. Math is practical applications. Chemistry & science are fun projects. So kid is learning. She fights to do the online stuff her school is providing & grandparents won’t fight that battle. Not sustainable long term, in this format. I don’t know what happens on going. I’m staying out of that mess too.
They did this to Marshall. Took me years to get him reading FLUENTLY again.
And they tried it with Robert, but he’d discovered Pratchett….
That is so incredibly disturbing. Our neighbor told my mom not to put me in the public schools (where she taught) when I’d already learned to read, but she just thought I’d get bored, not unlearn things.
I could read at age 3. Don’t remember having trouble in first grade, and in second grade Miss Liebert ( it hurts to realize if she’s still alive the pretty young teacher I knew is in her 80s) bribed me to keep quiet during nap time by giving me books. I had that Readers Digest 7th grade collection for years.
Me, too. Reading at 3, and no I *won’t* thank a teacher since it was mostly the doing of my grandmother. Well, okay, she had been a teacher in the way long ago when she met my grandfather (though they met when she was working as a summer cook in the lumber camp where he was employed). McGuffey’s Readers.
All of us were reading at three, also. It’s not super-common but also not all that unusual; two-and-a-half or so is when a lot of kids start learning or teaching themselves, mostly because parents are prone to trace the letters with their fingers when they read to kids. Obviously there’s more to it, but a few fuzzy letter books go a long way.
I THINK I only read at four. I’m not sure. But I was really bored, and not enough people read to me, so I started deciphering the “Tiggies” and relating them to sounds (mostly in comics.) from when people read to me. (I called them tiggies till first grade when I found out they were letters….)
They were wrong. They are now and forever to be called tiggies because I smiled
“Tiggies?”
I STILL call tiggies to every type of mark….
I’m just wondering where that came from.
I don’t know. At a very young age, ants were also tiggies….
Tiggies are obviously wossnames…
wossnames was a word I lacked at that time.
keep in mind I heard falsify as salsify and spent a year trying to figure out why parsley (Salsa in Portuguese) was a crime….
I loved words, but it was largely unrequited.
In parsley’s defense, it’s only a misdemeanor. Kale will get you 5-to-10 from any honest judge.
And English is a silly language anyway:
My parents read to me constantly. Then one day I offered to read to them and did. My son was reading National Geographic (adult issue) at 5.
Neither of the kids remember NOT being able to read. Marshall knew his alphabet cold by one and a half. I’m not aware of his starting to read because he was SECRETIVE. But in pre-school they told him he had to “guess” at the words, and he didn’t know how to do THAT so he stuck. Until I figured out what the problem was.
I can barely remember being read to, before I started reading. I had a Flintstones picture book with the children having an adventure, and my mom probably hated that thing before she finally didn’t have to read it to me any more. Beyond that, I don’t remember what I read as a little child, or how old I was when I learned to read it.
The earliest I remember reading is 4; my mother read to me well before that. Dr Seuss (“Horton Hatches the Egg”, etc.), PD Eastman (“Go Dog Go”), “Gwendolyn the Miracle Hen”….
*chuckles* Guess what the Empress is learning with? *grin*
I could read by four-going-on-five – but not very well, and I wanted to improve. I remember being frustrated at the lack of reading material and instruction in kindergarten, and when I hit first grade I was ready to whip through the primer series and push on. By third grade I was “The Kid Who Read Encyclopedias.”
I was lucky to be taught by my grandma before school came along. Apparently during the process I was variably sitting at, under and on the table. But as grandma pointed out, she was teaching me to read, not how to sit still.
How the hell did they manage that??
By yelling at a timid and introverted boy he was supposed to GUESS the word and sounding it out is WRONG.
Please tell me there were eventually woodchippers involved….
No, but we scared the school to the point that if went in for ANYTHING the principal rushed out of her office and started apologizing. Which was hilarious when we were picking up the kids 2 days early for spring break to take them to NYC
Intuiting meanings (and pronunciations and physical laws) is the basis of all knowledge in ProgWorld.
Attempting to decode pronunciation (and meaning and physical laws) by analysis of observable fact is the source of all error.
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I am another who learned to read at 3, when my mother bought a book called “Teach Me to Read” by Harold H. Hart and Mary K Winters, which taught phonetics. When I started first grade (skipped kindergarten) the teacher THANKED my mother profusely. She explained that after a session of listening to the other kids stumble and stutter, she would end by calling on me because at 5 I could read out loud accurately and with expression. Reading is still a passion and a pleasure. 😉
I landed the big party in the school Christmas play at six when I went into school because I read with EXPRESSION and understood the difficult words.
My elementary school paraded my little sister around to show how well their students read.
I had taught her before kindergarten.
Taking all the credit for somebody else’s hard work? Who’d do that?
Is it See-Say/Whole Language Instruction, or have they come up with something WORSE?
From the behavior issues that showed up at the same time, I’d guess it’s “oh, she’s doing fine, ignore her and focus on the kids having trouble.”
So the only way she gets attention is by not learning.
The problem is that the Government schools are geared to teach kids of +1/-2 SD in IQ. Meaning that the smart kids get shortchanged. It’s why I support a full-and-complete voucher system.
The PROBLEM is that government schools are geared to provide employment to a succession of brain damaged nitwits with Teachers’ Certificates. Any teaching that happens is an unimportant byproduct.
Not quite. The problem is that between the bureaucracy and the unions, they are required to treat brain damaged nitwits and competent, dedicated teachers exactly the same. Brain damaged nitwits ‘of color’ must be treated BETTER than competent, dedicated white teachers. Requiring them to do their jobs adequately would be racist oppression!
And before any action can be taken against a teacher molesting the students, the unions must first be appeased.
Teachers love “not learning.” It means job security.
Why, if kids could learn things without a highly-credentialed “educator” laboriously pounding each fact into their heads, over and over, who knows what kind of badthink they might pick up?!
The first thing schools teach is to be dependend on schools…
“Professional educators,” maybe. Teacher is more of a vocation.
Which is why they say “educator” when they’re demanding pay, and “teacher” when they want respect.
The principle reason my sister has not switched over is they were told by their employer (both she and my BIL work for the same university) that homeschooling means their paid time off for family care is invalidated. With five kids she’s worried. That said, if the schools close back down, grandma is homeschooling and they’ll figure it out.
It amazes me that the teacher’s unions are fighting school reopenings. The important part of the indoctrination pipeline is taking a lot of damage from this. The longer it goes on the more people won’t care if it comes back.
She might want to contact HSLDA to see if that is legal. Because that sounds an awful lot like illegal discrimination.
Counter argument, since when are leftists really effective long term thinkers?
They try things with long term payoff, but building robust plans for that takes analysis. Otherwise you don’t find the false assumptions hiding risks, or don’t have contingencies that account for changing situations or new information.
The analytical habits that give you a reliable supply of sound plans are the same ones that might possibly lead one to skepticism about leftwing dogma.
There’s a short term benefit here, and they are caught in a dream of the big payoff. Everyone is crazy now, they in particular are expecting their collective promised day any time now, and they either aren’t aware of the personal risks or are panicking desperate.
I suspect the teacher’s unions are largely made up of Useful Idiots that don’t fully realize their role as Leftist Indoctrinators.
Herb–if she hasn’t already, I recommend your sister check out Connections Academy. My youngest brother used that during his homeschooling years, and it was FANTASTIC. They send you all the stuff (including a laptop), and while I think there are some scheduled online interactions with teachers (and other kids in the class!), otherwise the kids can do stuff in the evenings, etc. They don’t HAVE to do school during the same time parents are working! And they don’t cost anything. (I know there’s others out there, but that’s the one I have personal knowledge of.)
(And though baby brother went back to public school for high school–because he discovered girls and also speech & debate–they go all the way from K-12. Also it meant when he went back to public school, he had zero problems standing up to the garbage, and graduated with a number of really good scholarships under his belt. 🙂 )
Thanks. I’ll pass that along. Every little bit help.
Grandma is a veteran teacher and from the era when teachers were that (do not get her started on people running or coming out of teacher’s colleges and how little they know about a real classroom). In fact, I honestly thought I’d carry her out of a classroom feet first. She retired at 72 and then went back at 75 before finally retiring for good at 78.
Except now she’ll happily homeschool her grandchildren.
There has also been talk of a certain uncle, now that he is working from home for an indefinite period teaching math for the oldest online.
And in theory he should be able to teach writing soon if not now.
That reminds me, I need to hunt down complete Heinlein juvies. William is old enough.
Marshall LOVED the Juvies.
Since coming to Iowa, I have run into so many retired teachers who mention “my kids/grandkids homeschooled, it’s great!”
They tend to identify me by the cloud of children around me. 😀
I’ll bet.
Yes, my mother is very mixed on public schools for her grandchildren. She thinks W. needs it over private school because he needs peers to challenge him and that’s more likely with the large numbers at public school.
I think she’d be fine with the rest being homeschooled. She’s not happen where the profession has gone over her lifetime. I think if W. had a different personality where he didn’t need a direct competitor to motivate him she’d recommend against it even for him.
I keep telling Mom (who was a rare bird, a successful–in terms of her students–special ed teacher, before she essentially got fired for being “too good at her job.”) that she ought to start a “learning pod” and charge parents like, 50 bucks/month to help them get their kids set up on connections academy and then ride herd on them and be available for additional tutoring & education, etc. (If she were in better health, and their house wasn’t the construction zone it is, she agreed it wouldn’t be a bad idea.)
Connection Academy is considered Alternative Public Education in Oregon; pretty sure it is one of the two. Which means local school district looses state & federal money for the student.
Did not know they provide the laptop & materials. That is nice. Things have really changed in the last 26 years since our son started school. In retrospect I’d rather have done more to work from *home & do the home schooling, had options been better. As it was we did the tutoring & educational supplement heavily. Tutoring was received by various teachers as good, or not so good, not that the latter could really complain other on how unfair it was to other students that we could afford tutors. They shut up, had to, when we said our tutors didn’t cost anything because we were his tutors; and “Guess & Check” were NOT valid for anything. Okay, I wasn’t allowed to tutor for pronunciation of unfamiliar words. Kid tutors me even now (as does dad).
* Or enlist sister who retired from teaching but took time out from the time their second was born until their youngest, of 4, was three, when Grandma retired & was available to babysit. She taught middle school science.
“… local school district looses state & federal money for the student.”
Local district also eliminates the cot of that student which, since every school district in the nation pleads insufficient funding to o cover costs, ought mean a net gain on the deal.
Yes, I understand the accounting games going on and the reduction of a class from thirty students to twenty-nine does not reduce the cost of that teacher … but it does mean more teacher attention to those twenty-nine remaining students which must be worth something given how they’re always crying for smaller class sizes …
And, of course, at PRESENT the debate is NOT whether to have teacher-led classes versus homeschooling, it is homeschooling with a fw hours a week of an on-line teacher (maybe even one who is involved and making an effort to evaluate and instruct a student).
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Local district also eliminates the cost of that student.
co-S-t, not cot.
Stupid browser freeze, stupid blank keyboard, stupid fingers, stupid Flanders.
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I know.
Based on the conversations, I’m sorry we didn’t look closer into homeschooling. In 94 the current options weren’t available. The youth we dealt with in sports & scouts that were home schooled, early ’00, wouldn’t have encouraged us to look in to it.
In our view then we had good daycare (paid for it too). Gook K – 5 school & teachers with decent after school care at the grade school (in fact when they close it one of the instructors took in a few kids from the school for the summer, how we got Silver, the last summer before we rearranged & did 1/2 hour latch key).
We paid attention to what was being taught and what classes were taken. When told parents didn’t have a say about what classes kid took in HS beyond the basics … all it took was two glares, one from each of us. Not that it was an issue. We even let him fight for what he wanted. Didn’t even have to step in. Although we were accused of putting him up to it & forcing it on him (nope). Worse we were guilty of when he couldn’t choose between two paths was “why not both?” When kid said “they won’t let me”. Response was “No, they won’t. If you don’t work & fight for it.” What do you know. Not two paths. A custom path. Funny how that wasn’t in the materials …
When the state board was on tour discussing the fancy certificates of intermediate & advanced completion (CIM/CAM) VS HS certificate of graduation. My response (I despise public speaking). “I don’t care what you do. Whatever hoops are required will happen and beyond. We as parents will make sure of it. Your problem? You can require it all you want. Only a handful of parents will step in, like us and make sure the “I’s are dotted” and “T’s are crossed”, items checked off. Filling in whatever, we as our child’s parent, think you dropped the ball on. The rest? You don’t have enough teachers, councilors, administrators, to catch all the remaining students. This will never, ever, fly. Sorry.” I was not wrong.
Ultimately it didn’t. Certificates are long gone. They were issued. But they meant squat. Son earned first one, missed second because he didn’t get the “work shadow in his preferred field” completed (the required “100 hours community service” section he took his scouting community service & turned that in). But was one of the 1500 SAT, & the essay was average at best), not ONE completed CAM.
FYI. I agree with the sentiment. Outside of scouts, or other organizations, which is voluntary to join, you don’t have to advance or to participate in other activities, required community service, is not voluntary.
When he runs out give me a holler. I’ve got a little list of books that can scratch the same itch. Some are OP/OSI, but you can get cheap paperbacks or ILL them from a different library system anywhere in the English-speaking world (assuming the library is open in any way, of course.) Charles Sheffield did a fun Captain’s Courageous in space juvenile. Gordon Dickson did Space Winners, etc…
I’ve thinking something like this for a while. But my version was the virus would fade back in the summer, then reappear in the fall with the flu. For the Bad Guys, the best time would be early October, but in any case the hysteria would be ginned back up again.
What’s depressing is the number of good, decent, hard working older people who believe everything they’re told about the virus and simply want to help other people by doing the right thing. As defined by the experts they trust implicitly. After all, they (the people) would never lie about something like this, so of course the experts wouldn’t lie, either.
I’ve got family and friends who fall in that category. They genuinely believe that anyone who disagrees with the official experts is a conspiracy nut, and therefore discount any contrary evidence as conspiracy theory.
So I just bite my tongue a lot.
http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/danger-of-censoring-doctors
Would this help? It’s the audio of that video from last Monday by Frontline Doctors, with commentary. The fact that they won’t be able to find it on any major site due to censorship might just shake their viewpoint up a bit. After all, these are real practicing family doctors, not just a random person off the street.
And here’s the reply they’ll come back with:
Q.But I saw the video of “frontline doctors”…
DOCS: the “frontline doctors” are not taking care of covid patients. They were pediatricians, ophthalmologists, non board certified, demon sex people. There is always someone who wants their 15 minutes of fame.
This is from Kay Judge’s “Covid Conspiracies — Q and A with Your Doc” https://www.facebook.com/kay.judge.9/posts/10207642144809493 which was specifically used by a friend to shut down discussion.
Once someone has decided that those doctors are not qualified to have an opinion (and may well be attention whores to boot), what else is there to be said?
> DOCS: the “frontline doctors” are not taking care of covid patients.
…and even if they’re ICU docs, they may never have seen a COVID patient.
In my occasional experiences in ICU, I have yet to actually see an MD. Presumably they had one somewhere, maybe hanging out at the nurse’s station looking at charts, but they didn’t so much as look in the door, much less at me.
You might see an RN on day shift, but they’re generally administrators on other shifts.
When I was in high school my grandfather spent a lot of time in ICU, which was across the street from school so I visited every day. Never saw a doctor, but several nurses would wander through.
Yep. The “experts” went to work right away discrediting the hell out of them.
The virus might have followed your path if Mr. Floyd hadn’t had a run-in with Minneapolis PD.
If it hadn’t been Floyd, it would have been something else. The mechanisms were in place, they were just looking for an appropriate trigger. Might have been Breonna Taylor, but Floyd had better visuals (and of course Ms. Taylor was working for The Man).
Yep, those quantities of pallets of bricks that apparently manifested on various sidewalks via the arcane arts across the eastern US were not newly purchased – they were stocked in warehouses somewhere, and the money for the truck and lift rentals were distributed and in place as well.
I think the plans were waiting for any relevant trigger, with the backup plan of a manufactured event if nothing happened.
But I also think Mr. Floyd’s Unfortunate End hit too soon – that’s why there were no pallets of bricks mysteriously appearing west of the Rockies, especially in the otherwise well primed Portland/Seattle areas.
If it had not hit until now I thin the initial inflammation out have happened in a lot more places.
Per Power Line, police cam footage of Mr. Floyd’s last fifteen minutes or so are now available for viewing …
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/body-cam-footage-of-floyds-arrest-leaked.php
Analysis strongly suggests his demise was far more consistent with drug overdose (probably that Chinese delight, fentanyl) than police action.
Not that the MSM will correct their prior coverage.
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We did know he had fatal levels of fet in his system, along with the meth and residual pot, plus I think a few other drugs it’s been a month or three since I read it; that he was on meth, and acting like it, also explains the restraint hold– and waiting for more information would’ve been useful.
Isn’t it “amazing” how, yet again, the lawyer selected video leaves out a lot of important details?
Gosh, it’s only happened regularly, in public, since the Trayvon Martin thing. -.-
Rodney King?
Was his video released by a lawyer, and did the better video get released about half a year later, after “everybody knew” the favored claims?
I can’t remember if…Michael Brown, was that the guy who robbed the mini-mart by bouncing the little Indian clerk off the wall and got shot when he charged a cop, the second time? … was before or after Martin.
Yep, that was Brown and he was post-Martin.
After.
Ah, here we go, Donald put up a picture of the toxicology:
https://the-american-catholic.com/2020/08/04/body-cam-footage-of-floyd-arrest/
1-3 are fent related, then meth, pot, tobacco and coffee.
As far as the arrest, I’ll keep saying what I’ve said all along. Until the handcuffs clicked, there wasn’t an issue. Once they clicked, he should have been repositioned. That he wasn’t, in spite of their knowledge of positional asphyxia as a danger, is where we get depraved indifference.
His autopsy said months ago that cause of death was heart failure, NOT asphyxiation of any kind. But that didn’t fit the Narrative!(tm), so it was roundly ignored.
And now police cam footage is showing that he was saying he couldn’t breathe long before they put him on the ground, that they pleaded with him multiple times to please stop fighting them, that they stayed largely patient and calm throughout…
I already knew they’d been overcharged (on purpose, because then they’ll get off and more riots for the dems to feed off! Keith Ellison being the culprit behind the overcharging). But now? Now it’s looking like their biggest screwup was they maybe should have called an ambulance right away.
same as with the now 3rd Micheal Brown investigation (done by someone even more biased than the 0bama DoJ), the result is meaningless, the optics are what matter to those “working for change”
I just wonder if they actually thought — based on China — the Corona Virus would kill a lot more people, thereby hiding their societal manipulation.
Seems likely, because they are that stupid.
I have had occasion to wonder recently if various things apparently unrelated, like the order to close the Houston Chinese (Red) Consulate with only 72 hours notice, the Chinese “Researcher” female hiding in the San Francisco Chinese (Red) consulate, and all the sudden rolling up of other Chinese (Red) Intel Assets across academia and Researchdom are all really the result of CounterIntel folks following the money on those pallets of bricks.
Lost of “follow the money” and web-of-relationships expertise has been accumulated in the antijihadi wars…
It was obvious to me three months ago that the Dems intended to milk this for as much economic damage as their Propaganda Press operatives could cover up.
Never forget that the Democrats are like a crooked auto mechanic. The REALLY crooked one, who fixes one thing (halfway)…while loosening the bolts on something else. America’s pain is the Democrats’ gain.
I get a lot of older folks telling me they think it’s all BS… but then, I get a lot of Trump hats, too.
The Trump 2020 mask was pretty good!
> our “elites” aren’t smarter
From what I’m seeing, the self-styled “elites” are a bunch of retards gold stars to each other while their daycare burns down around them.
I predict a national shortage of dumbass if they keep hogging it all for themselves…
I hate it when I edit a comment and then notice I a word out after I send it. Still have a plentiful supply of dumbass here…
The only thing more common then Hydrogen is stupidity. We will never be rid of it.
Stupidity and waste heat are in competition to see which ends the Universe first.
Given current information, heat as it is everywhere. So far, we only know of a single source producing stupidity.
Are you kidding? The stupidity is distributed, networked and cross-linked, so that removing one node has almost no effect on the overall Stupid Quotient. There’s positive feedback built in too, so it’s building up to some sort of Singularity Of Stupid. I don’t know what the world is going to look like on the other side.
Outside the Sol/Earth system, know any stupidity sources?
of course there is, Stupidity is just like dark matter. you can’t really detect it, but you know its gotta be there.
Hrm.. stupid.. dense.
Stupidity IS the ‘dark matter’?
Universally distributed stupidity would explain the Fermi Paradox.
Being forced to travel through dense fields of stupidity would explain many of the choices of various celluloid alien invaders.
Obviously we’ll need antistupidity shields when we start using FTL.
depends on if there are other polities out yonder.
If so, you know chances are there is stupid party in there somewhere.
Wait, what if stupidity is the entropy of sentience? Which would imply that stupidity can only increase.
If that’s true:
1. The sum of intelligence and stupidity in a closed system is constant.
2. In any exchange between intelligence and stupidity in a closed system, intelligence will decrease and stupidity will increase.
3. Any closed system in which exchanges of intelligence and stupidity take place will eventually reach a state of absolute stupidity, at which point no further exchanges are possible.
Since the Leftoids have placed themselves in a closed system…
I just love how you blend politics, philosophy, and physics.
Thank you. I think I’ll call them the Three Laws Of Stupidynamics.
You MIGHT be in the according to hoyt comments section!
That is one of the few inexhaustible resources
Completely renewable!
The factor they Fascist Left has failed to take into account is that the Common People have a limited supply of ‘Willing to put up with’. We see it again and agin. It’s what caused the Elites to be caught by surprise by Trump and Brexit. It’s what got that young fool in Austin shot to doll rags. They keep writing scripts off The Masses, without having the slightest clue who they are talking about.
exactly.
What they’re missing is that war is one thing, but telling us this is the plague to end all plagues, and we can see it’s not…..
the song that keeps running through my head the last few weeks is Bullet For My Valentine’s You Want a Battle (Here’s A War).
The elites will keep trying to abuse us, until we’ve had enough and flip the switch. At which point the violence will likely be biblical.
I’ve been telling Polis (not that he reads me, but maybe one of his moronic advisers does) that he’ll get to be on top of Denver, sure.
But VERY briefly. And the drop is a killer.
No, no, no. The drop isn’t a killer. The sudden stop at the end, on the other hand….
depends on if he is the lander or the landed upon
Chinese proverb:
If the egg drops on the rock, poor egg
If the rock drops on the egg, poor egg
someone hire the piano movers used by Clarkson,Hammond, and May
Or the ACME crate delivery service.
Hey, Wile E.’s gadgets always seemed to arrive intact and on time.
What I want to know is, which transport service agreed to deliver all those explosives? Don’t pretend they didn’t know; the crates were clearly marked.
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Sanity is like most things — best practiced in moderation.
The same one that delivered Thompson SMGs for Sears.
too often the bloke just walks away
Denver’s Department of Public Works says the city has 44,000 street lights.
Just FYI.
Might not be enough. There might have to be helicopters….
Or bulldozers/steamrollers….
There is a variant of the Gladsen with Killdozer on it.
Killdozer from the movie from the Ted Sturgeon short story, or Marvin Heemeyer’s dozer from Granby, Colorado?
The later.
Denver PD has at least one helicopter.
I love the web, sometimes…
I think that all it would take is clear evidence that being a fire-throwing nitwit had a serious downside and a lot of the mob would melt away. The ‘authorities’ in the cities that have riots are playing up to them, so it’s all good fun. If a mayor had the guts to pull a Richard J. Daley, and turn the cops loose, the rioting would end, pronto.
Trump is playing it cool. Selected fools who attack Federal property or agents are getting arrested, but the Democrats who are screaming ‘Fascist’ look like fools, and on some level they know it.
If the rioters try to pull their act in a ‘deplorable’ neighborhood, they’ll get a nasty surprise. And if they attack a Liberal Left suburb, the Democrats will lose votes they can’t afford.
This is supported by what happened in Des Moines.
Or rather, didn’t much happen.
They lost some windows down town by the various government buildings… and law enforcement showed up. They started arresting the Trouble before things got going. Idiots doing obvious casing the day before suddenly had the law enforcement guys that work in that building walking up, as normal folks on their lunch break, and talking to them. Getting a good look at their face while they’re at it.
And amazingly, no roving bands of looters…..
I’m not calling for a re-run of Kent State, but it is notable that it was the last big anti-war rally of that era. And if Antifa persists in its “intensely peaceful” protests a Kent State re-run is inevitable.
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I’m predicting a Boston Marathon event done by someone whose livelihood these people have ruined and who will be *competent*, unlike the Tsaernevs
Indianapolis also stepped on the rioting, hard. Both the mayor and the governor made it clear that, while they would listen to people who assembled peaceably, rioting would be dealt with harshly. We had curfews for a couple of weekends, but by the second, the people with an actual beef had decided they’d been heard, and the rioters and looters either were in jail, or figured out it wasn’t a good idea to pull that stuff in this city.
Call Pinochet Aviation at 1-800-BIG-DROP. Operators are standing by.
With apologies to Saint Augusto, helicopters aren’t the right answer here. The FAA and the NTSB could reasonably seek to intervene, because deaths, and it just wouldn’t be wise to invite the scrutiny if you own a helicopter, or own a pilot’s license.
Functionally, the requirements of execution include being fast enough that witnesses are willing to wait, and being able to identify the body afterwords.
There aren’t any problems in that requirement that can’t be solved with careful experimentation in the event one somehow has an actual need to carry out executions faster than known methods and available materials permit. If the first experiments don’t work fast enough, shove their heads in a bucket filled with water, and come up with new experiments for a later batch.
But, frankly, known methods are probably more than fast enough. Blokhin could kill two hundred people a day.
And if you are carrying out very many executions, there are going to be empty buildings for a period afterwards. Get at the structural members, and you probably don’t need any lampposts.
Only covered manned helicopters, and forgot my intent to mention unmanned.
Heavy lift unmanned quadcopters aren’t cheap either. You are either using batteries that need recharging, or engines that use fuel. Charging is a rate limit, and fuel is a little expensive. Plus, a dangling corpse could be an interesting controls problem.
self driving UBERs and runs up Pike’s Peak?
Helicopter rides half off!
Just remember, gravity doesn’t care if it’s a helicopter or the Grand Canyon….
And if you believe THAT, you will believe anything.
And when they picture ‘War’ it’s always that silly “Liberty leading The People” business, and no thought of what effect on morale it will have when a sniper turns her head into a splat. They despise soldiers and military history, and think they are going to win a ‘revolution’ against people who don’t.
A favorite anti scenario is “what is some Bubba with a deer rifle going to do against a squad of soldiers with fully-automatic assault rifles?”
Unless the squad has plenty of cover and knows how to use it, they should surrender. Because Bubba with a scoped .243 or .270 can stand off outside their effective rifle range and pick them off like groundhogs in a field.
It’s sort of like “.308 proof” body armor thing. Sure, it can save you from a .308. But by and large American hunters have a bad case of Magnumitis, and would question whether .308 was an effective cartridge for chipmunks, or should they step to something more effective. And somehow the armor proponents always assume the sniper is going to shoot at their armor, not at a soft target. There have been a lot of cops with body armor taken down by some punk with a .32 or 9mm shooting them where the armor wasn’t…
You really don’t want to piss off Bubba, Grandpaw, or Cousin Otis.
The scenario I keep getting confronted with is “What good are small arms going to do against tanks”
And, as I have said here before, the thing is, tyrannies are not run from tanks. They are run from desks. Tanks are cramped, and there is no room to do paperwork.
See statement about “beans, bullets, and band-aids.”
Also applies to tank ammunition and fuel, plus the beans and band-aids for the tank crew.
Do NOT forget batteries. Also water, gas, spare parts, internet connection…
“What good are small arms going to do against tanks”
They’re going to shoot holes in the tankers carrying fuel for the tanks (the pipelines having long been blown up). Tanks without fuel are just really large garden planters.
They won’t be shooting at the tanks, they’ll be shooting at you.
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Yep – If someone were to shoot the person who makes the phone call asking for tanks, eventually there are no more phone calls asking for tanks.
And a well guarded desk jockey has vulnerable guards….
My first CCL class had a dash cam video of an encounter at a traffic stop (Trooper Cole?). State Trooper empties his .357 into the driver of a car. Driver gets out and shoots Trooper with 2-shot .22 derringer. Trooper dies. Driver was morbidly obese so the Trooper’s rounds failed to inflict debilitating injury, and the Trooper had raised his arm to activate his lapel-mounted mike to request back-up when the two rounds entered his armpit above the vest and blew out his heart.
If you aren’t vaporizing the prey’s entire head and spinal column it can’t possibly be an ethical kill.
The anti’s think a gun is a magical talisman, a deer rifle is only a +1 while an assault rifle is +5.
Bubba with the deer rifle is dumb if he takes on the squad with the fully-automatic assault rifles; Smart Bubba takes out the squad’s resupply of beans, bullets and band-aids.
Or to put it in a more classic way: “Amateurs talk about tactics, professionals study logistics.”
Makes me wonder, did these guys freaking sleep through history class?
When you consider Michael A. Bellesiles a historian and “Arming America” as history……..
They never took a history class. The classes called history were all neo-marxist propaganda sessions that didn’t touch on the actual “why” of anything.
It’s in School House Rock!
Which is obviously white supremacy. I mean, look at the color pallet.
Did they have a history class? Public middle school had Social Studies. I got History from a Catholic HS where the teacher talked about “Wrong way Columbus”. Ended up picking up most history I know – and definitely all the tactics and logistics! – myself.
Only had social studies, and but even I heard about that!
My HS Social Studies teacher was not the most engaging teacher, but one day he told us about his experience going across the beach at Utah in the third wave, and that was just remarkable. You could hear a pin drop that entire period.
One advantage to being as old as I am is I got to overlap with that generation.
For a moment, I wanted to say “But there aren’t any beaches in Utah!” but then I remembered that my State isn’t the only place that’s named Utah….
One part of Illinois wants to end all history education and only teach “how democracy works” until a PC/Woke replacement for facts can be created.
Those poor kids.
Darn, makes me want to dump a truckload of biographies of Patton on the area….
Hell, the last 18 years?
“Herp-a-derp, we live in a country that was started by a bunch of guys with squirrel guns taking on a major world army! Clearly, you stupid rural guys couldn’t stand against our army, which we’ll pretend would be on our side!”
Now I want to demonstrate a Pennsylvania rifle… that and point them toward a bit from a British Army guy writing home at the time, who effectively pointed out that the “farmers” at Lexington and Concord pulled off a several-mile-long moving envelopment. “These men very much know what they are about.”
Guys buying their own ammo who didn’t eat if they missed had good aim!
*Nod*
Heh. See also: Audie Murphy…
Annie Oakley …
Missed. Didn’t eat, worse, her siblings didn’t eat. Couldn’t recover shot to reuse, couldn’t afford to replace shot lost.
I’m pretty sure 90% of the Continental Army’s problems came from when they tried to act like “regular” soldiers…
Which was why they needed von Steuben, from what I’ve read. Guy went so far as to make sure he could get his insults translated to harangue soldiers in proper drill sergeant fashion!
Of course, the REALLY big problem was the fact that the Continental Congress had a real problem with, y’know, PAYING (and frequently even feeding) their soldiers…(And likely, a lot of the time, they genuinely couldn’t, but even so.)
I was going to pop in to say that they did need to act like real soldiers, because they weren’t able to go home at night for all of the fighting.
Sadly lots of people think things are talismans. When a firefight helmet has to specifically state it does not protect against disease you stop and think.
*Facepalms*
The Progressives don’t know the HOW of rebellion. Back in the late 60’s, it was revolution Baby. I went into Revolutionary Book stores from Austin to Boise and the thing that I found was hundreds of Books on the WHY of revolution but NOTHING on the HOW. A couple books by Mao and Che but they were useless. These people don’t know history, or anything it is just pitiful.
Probably needed a copy of We Remained by Russell Volckmann
From something I saw on Insty, but the answer to that painting is “and just like that time, there’s always an artillery captain waiting in the wings.”
They think it’s fated. They’ve grown up reading stories about how “all the people” “suddenly rose up” — spits.
I think they underestimate just how many on the other side will suddenly rise up if this crap goes too much further.
That’s why the shift in the daily gaslighting from “We’re all gonna die!” to, “We’re all gonna get long-term health damage and we don’t know what it will be”. Also why we are pushing that kids can’t go back to school because, even though they mostly either don’t get it or don’t get very sick at all, “but some kids get a Kawasaki-Disease-like-illness that could (but generally isn’t, because we now how to treat Kawasaki) kill them”. So I had need to look up those numbers for work. Would you like to know how many reported possible cases of that there were as of July 29th, 2020 *worldwide*. About 1000. Out of a population of 6 billion.
Would this be the majority of recovered Covid-19 patients show heart abnormalities months later that I saw being pushed a week or two ago? Where the did MRIs on people after recovery, but didn’t have images from before illness and the issues detected wouldn’t show up on ecocardiograms to begin with?
At my former department the Chief almost gave himself a heart attack one time because he had made an employment offer to someone before the physical and the dept would be on the hook for the guy’s disability if anything showed up. Which became problematic when his physical picked up a “heart defect” that wasn’t previously noted. However, more information from the doctor determined that the “heart defect” was something found in a large minority of the population (30 or 40% IIRC) and wasn’t really an issue to cause concern. They guy had just never had that particular test done before, so no one knew about it.
That would be the one. Well, one of several. I am stuck checking local news today due to Tropical Storm that might actually knock power out for several days and today’s is that delirium can be a symptom *especially in young people* because we also are focused really hard on making sure the least vulnerable get a good dose of fear for the day. Because heaven forbid they get it, get over it, and help decrease the spread by making sustained transmission harder.
Translation: “When young people have fevers, the fevers usually go higher than in adults. So young people are more likely to have fever dreams and hallucinations than adults are. But of course you’re less likely to get coof than other fever-causing diseases, and kids are even less likely to catch coof than adults are.”
104 temp in a child. Keep an eye on child.
102 temp in an adult? Call 911. Right. Now. Get your tush to an emergency clinic. Right. Now.
Cause? Doesn’t matter with adult. Might matter with a child.
I did not know this, thank you.
I might have gotten reamed out by the emergency doctor by the time I got to the clinic. I think the nurse turned white when I told them I’d worked the day before in canyons that were hitting 102+, with the fever. Granted the fever hit after we’d (crew) worked our way into the canyon. Nobody else was hauling my, uh, assets out, not that I told anyone until we were back at the district office. Just told district HR that I was feeling lousy & was headed to the clinic in town, in the morning. I never hallucinated … but I was very meek when the doctor admitted me into the hospital. Nor did I fight mom when she showed up to *check me out & haul my tail to grandparents. Personal physician also gave me a lecture when I went in to get released to back to work (answer was no) said my white count was still to highly elevated regardless of the fact I felt better. His response scared me. It was another 10 days before I was allowed to go back to work. Even then I was limited to the office for another work week. I had just enough sick leave saved to cover the hours I lost, but it was close. I was 19.
Then when our son had that high of a fever, see above reaming, I was a tad panicking when I called the after hours clinic. He’d already been in for the diagnosis. That is when I found out the difference. Always best to call. But don’t be surprised on differing responses based on child or adult.
* Mom wasn’t sure family’s insurance would cover it, since not in classes. They did. Just had to convince them that the work was required to graduate, but it wasn’t a class; advantage was it 100% true.
Have had fevers high enough to hallucinate twice, both as a teen. Once when I got chicken pox several years older than I should have, the second during a particularly nasty Asian Flu season. Not something I advise for funsies, but ultimately one of the least harmful effects of either. I still have a lot of scars from the first.
I may have hallucinated the last time I got a hard-core “oh-Ghawd-take-me-home-now-please” influenza back in the winter of 2000-2001. I was too sick to really care.
2003, I never hallucinated, but I was 5 months pregnant and couldn’t take anything for the fever, so I basically laid in the floor because I couldn’t get up.
I keep trying to explain to people that when I talk about the WuFlu only being about 2.4 x more deadly than the average seasonal flu (although unlike flu it doesn’t kill kids), I’m not saying we shouldn’t take WuFlu seriously, but that we don’t take flu seriously enough.
I caught a COLD while pregnant with Marshall. But couldn’t take ANYTHING. Because pregnant. That miserable crap dragged on the final two months of pregnancy and he was born with it.
And you know what? it probably weakened me for the viral pneumonia the year after.
So my immune system has two modes: not engaging at all and going ape shit against all the things.
Mostly the ape shit against all the things is auto-immune, of course, but weirdly — ! — it gives me very, very high fevers.
Which is when I do gif posts.
Most people over 30 have some degree of arrythmia and heart valve leakage. It’s a normal thing, and whether it’s a problem is a matter of whose standards you’re using. And those keep changing, too.
And much of it comes from sedentary lifestyles with poor diets. But just like people killed in motorcycle crashes, the narrative demands that it is all the result of the CCP Virus.
“I had need to look up those numbers for work.”
Courtesy of Power Line’s Week-in-Pictures, this model of how intelligent, informative reporting of data shows what most of the MSM is NOT doing.
Inquiring Minds have no need to wonder Why.
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Because its actually a useful way to look at the numbers? And therefor not suitable for us peasants.
Well, that might be the line, but the issue is the teachers unions are run by the old line Union Organizers who left behind anything but self interest many, many years ago.
Any young uncorrupted enthusiastic ethical teachers are not driving that “Teachers Union Issues Demands for Re-Opening” bus.
There’s also a real element of classism in the whole thing. Because teachers should be a special protected category and not have to ‘risk their lives’ to teach our kids, while not giving a damn about the (generally lower-class, less educated, and often minority) child care workers who are picking up the slack for working parents who don’t have the option of staying home with their elementary aged kids. Or any of the rest of us who have continued to work with the public throughout because working from home isn’t an option.
THIS THIS THIS THIS. Also, stop reading my mind.
They also clearly don’t give a crap about the kids. Allllll those s**ty school districts, you think the “distance learning” was in any way effective? Hell to the no. Especially if it’s a single parent household and parent has to work to put food on the table, clothes, etc. (Or parent(s) just don’t care.) A good chunk of those kids never even bothered logging in. Now, I’d argue that they weren’t really getting any education AT school, either, but maybe they were getting at least a little bit. Now? Not gonna happen. Not to mention the fact that bored kids left on their own who are already inclined to misbehave because of a lack of parental authority (whether because parent is worked to the bone or again, doesn’t care)…why, hello increase in gang activity.
(And even in non-crappy school districts, the half-assed, poorly set up ‘distance learning’ wasn’t particularly effective. At least with the choice to homeschool, parents can set up and/or try what is going to work best for their individual kids.)
Of course, like I said, I doubt any of that would be much better even if the kids were IN school, so…I’m on the side of “may this finally destroy the current model of public education once and for all” and we can try building something better from the ashes…
My sister is in the best (read richest) school district in the state and they never got their online distance learning to work *at all*. So of course they are going to strictly digital again in the fall.
Me? I’m really glad circumstances forced us into homeschooling early in the kids’ academic careers, so this has all been a big irrelevancy for us.
OTOH, my feelings are split about the number of new COVID-driven homeschoolers in my state. So many right now are driven by motivations that are not compatible with successful homeschooling (mostly the fear-driven ones, particularly in districts where the kids *are* scheduled to go back in the fall, for now), and while I think a lot of them will find their groove and a superior experience, I also know that the spectacular failures will be held against all the rest of us and used to start imposing more government control over the escapees. Because they can’t survive if everyone opts out of the system.
I think that’s part of why so many home school groups are doing outreach right now– and emphasizing that folks who are doing it because they don’t want their kids in school have options, and folks who actually want to homeschool ALSO have options, so “crisis schooling” and really trying to homeschool are different animals.
Some of it has been really snotty here instead of helpful. The looking down the nose at those who are asking questions based around their experiences with bad distance learning situations, and instead of offering options for how they can move forward, dismissing them with comments that what they’re doing is “real” homeschooling. Our religious state homeschool association (which is larger and more useful than the secular one, regardless of affiliation) has gained over 40K new Facebook members this summer, but any group that large has some bad actors who are discouraging folks who really just need education and encouragement. While it can be great, I’m really glad I didn’t find it when we were first starting out.
That should say “what they are doing *isn’t* ‘real’ homeschooling”. I really need to edit before I hit send. Or learn to type.
Ugh, I’m sorry.
Try pointing the new folks at places like this:
https://hifalutinhomeschooler.com/
Thank you!
Maybe you could suggest pinning a “New To Homeschooling? FAQ right here!” for the enw folks, too? That might gut the nasties, and avoid already tense folks getting tenser.
I am open to doing a page you guys can send people to. Probably on our other site. I’d have to give you keys to administer
I’m kinda low on spoons, sadly. 😦
Here i can loan you a….
no wait, that one’s a spork.
Oooh! Or a specific, pinned, “New To Homeschooling resources” post.
Ugh. The hipsters-slash-gatekeepers: unavoidable in ANY group, fandom, or activity. It’s got to be one of THE most annoying things about human nature.
It’s why I’m not a ‘joiner’. No patience with politicking and/or mean girls.
Yep. That’s why I’m so introverted it’s near-pathological, heh.
Oh, my word. Her 101 Lies I tell myself about homeschooling is GOLDEN. And should be something every parent considering homeschooling (in any form, whether doing it themselves or using an academy) should read and take to heart. Boiled down, it’s basically “It’s not perfect, it never will be, it’s going to be chaotic a lot, and that’s okay.”
(Because one of the biggest lies of all is that public schools work.)
IK,R?!
That, and the gif-picture she has of her son jumping up and down in his chair while he does… I think it was math… PERFECT way to get the attitude “right” for home schooling.
YES. I’m falling down the rabbit hole of hilarious-but-sensible blog posts. I don’t have kids (really wish I did), but if I’m ever lucky enough to have them, I’ve always wanted to move heaven and earth to homeschool them!! She gives me hope that I could do it! 😀
Um…. should you ask d for her son’s email?
(What? I’m not ADDICTED to yentying. I can quit ANYTIME.)
He is 31.
Works at a cabinet building company. Supervisor on the swing shift. Does have a Chemistry BS degree. Still lives at home, because he’d need roommate for a studio apartment locally (although if students don’t come back to UofO who knows? Non dorm apartments might come down.), he knows his roommates will pay their share of the bills. Not a spend thrift. Let’s discuss what it took to get him to buy the new car (old one started falling apart). Loves animals, especially cats.
We’d Love grandchildren someday … OTOH with him you get the whole family. Not just us. The whole extended family. Shock for hubby, whose family was the core parents, siblings, and eventually nieces & nephews, for awhile, only one left he is close to is his brother. Not my side. Hubby jokes after 42 years of marriage & dating (42th is in December), he is still meeting my family. Family joke is we are related to half of Oregon on dad’s side, only half because some have moved out of state. Half of Montana on mom’s side; well maybe only 1/3. Heck I had cousins I went to HS with & didn’t know were cousins. Granted they were descendants of my GGG-grandfather’s brother’s, but still.
Younger son is likely to live with us a while (though really, separate basement apartment) for same reason, because to live out he needs roommates. And he’s had enough of that.
Should I do a really weird post about my homeschooling year?
With the caveat that the one I homeschooled was the genius? Also my male clone. (The combination of the two is kind of funny.)
mean, I was reading her thing, and what made me giggle hysterically is that my experience didn’t match but kind of did?
I drove myself nuts trying to get him to finish all the work. Never happened.
I outright lied on the phys-ed thing, mostly because well… he didn’t like taking pointless walks anymore than I did. So one hour walk a day didn’t happen. Gardening, repairing the fence, bouncing all over the grocery store while we shopped, that happened.
He read way more than we put down, because reading old pulp SF/f was the REWARD for doing the other work.
Sure, he UNDERSTOOD stuff like evolution, but the unit called for a paper. Instead, he made a bunch of things in oven bake clay, positing evolution of humans (and for some reason dogs!) if we’d never left the ocean.
Explaining this to the lady who supervised us on behalf of the umbrella school was HILARIOUS. I was trying to explain and she kept saying “So he didn’t finish????”
And I finally said “Marshall, get the figurines” And then she just kept saying “my word. So he wants to be an artist?” “No. that’s just how he works. Ask him to explain the links and why….”
Then there was Greek. Why Greek? Well, I think because his brother is obsessed with Rome, but he’ll probably hit me if he reads this (not really. He’ll just say “moooooom”)
It started innocently (?) with mythology. Then next thing I knew he was learning Greek (no, I DON’T know why.) This led to on a “field trip” (I was invited to a con okay?) to NY, his sitting on the plane with a notebook and a dictionary and a copy of the Iliad, translating. And people asking “Are you doing that for school?” “No. I’m on vacation. This is fun!” Somewhere I have a picture of him doing this in a hotel lobby and being upset by strangers asking him questions.
Then there was Shakespeare. He likes Shakespeare, and likes watching recorded plays, so we said “fine, that’s English.”
Only he’s mostly a born engineer. So he became fascinated by the mechanics of special effects in Elizabethan theater, fell down an internet rabbit hole and studied what we know of archeology for same in Greek theater, bugged hell out of me till I spent $500 on books (this was 13 years ago, so you still needed books for some things, also I think some were college textbooks.) and did a 50 page paper on the MECHANICS behind theater.
BUT he never finished his physics unit, because the lecturer had “a weird voice” (in great courses) and phys head was a mess. And he hated the programing by correspondence course. And– And I couldn’t make him work on the “required” stuff for more than 2 hours a day.
And the reason he went back to school: Even though he’s always loved math and physics, and stem, learning from me he was acquiring my vices, and not doing those, but getting way better at languages/English/art/history/biology.
So back he went. Because he wanted to be an engineer.
Nowadays? meh. Seriously, I could have hooked him up with a tutor for those subjects. But back then this was a big barrier.
I wish Colorado hadn’t changed the law the year before I did this. They used to have “they can take the classes they want in school and be homeschooled for the rest.”
And I could have done it forever on that basis. As in he’d go in for math, physics, chemistry (and probably end in community college for those by 16) and do the rest at home.
Well…. whatever. He’s okay.
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Rolls eyes. We didn’t home school. But he did scouts, and Junior National Park Ranger for a number of parks. Getting him to the work, no problem, in fact he’d redo the work portion, over & over & over again, until it was perfect. Getting him to write about it, or write enough so he could & would talk about it to respective Merit Badge Councilors (not us, because parents aren’t, in general MBC to their own scout), or NP Rangers as the last requirement for JNPR, was a PIA.
As far as school goes. I remember a project that required them to write & illustrate poems or paragraphs for specific topics. The results were then put into a book for younger grades. Which meant the result had to legible & neat. Have I mentioned how horrible his hand writing is? He did the work. He turned in the work. The work was rejected. Did he redo the rejected work without the instructor finally getting us involved? Heck no. Follow up on that was an agreement, he would type up his work, paste/tape that to his completed pictures over his handwriting, then turn it in on a specific deadline. Got a call that work hadn’t been turned in. We knew it was done. We oversaw the work. It was done early, before deadline. I left work, pulled him out of class, and asked him. He had turned it in, but he turned it in early putting it in the box of the day he turned it in, not the day it was due. I called back & left a message. She called back and apologized profusely. He got an apology in front of the class and in front of the teacher whose class he got pulled from. In her defense she was not used to parental follow through; stated. One thing we didn’t have to worry about was what the 6th grade teachers called the 6th grade problem. Actually turning in homework. For Irving Elementary students that was called the 4th grade problem. But the 4th/5th grades didn’t include rejecting turned in work which then had to be redone & turned in, sigh.
PE requirement? Not a problem. Fall Soccer K – 5, Fall Flag Football 6 – 7, Basketball 2nd – 7, Indoor Winter Soccer 3rd – 7, Spring Soccer k – 7, T-Ball/Baseball k – 7. Golf – Age 2 – 12, all year. Cross Country – 8th – 11th. Finally Scouts 1st – 12th. Not to mention our vacations are National Parks, hiking, even when we do things like Disneyland or Disney World (I always came back needing a vacation from the vacation). Only difference between our vacations & scouting (that didn’t overlap) was we take the shower & softer beds (RV).
>> “I’m kinda low on spoons, sadly.”
Low on spoons? I don’t get it.
Briefly, it’s a metaphor for the amount of energy one has for all the tasks that must be accomplished in a given day. You only have a set number of spoons to start and each activity takes a spoon away. Once you are out of spoons, you cannot take any more tasks on, no matter how much you might like to.
Originated in the invisibly disabled (i.e. those who ‘look healthy’ but have some physical or mental condition that leaves them with less energy than others) community to explain why they sometimes can’t accomplish many things over and above activities of daily living (because they have fewer spoons than the healthy, who they may see as having unlimited spoons).
But frankly it’s broadly useful, as no-one truly has unlimited ability to accomplish tasks. And some days we all have more spoons than others.
Ah, thanks.
Although now I wonder how much this explains the Tick’s battle cry. He’s got lots of energy, at least…
>> “I am open to doing a page you guys can send people to. Probably on our other site.”
Wait, what other site?
Damn it, hit reply for the wrong post. I hate it when the comments get nested so deep you can’t reply directly to the post you actually want to refer to.
Anyway, that question was aimed at Sarah.
I mean, honestly, given the dismal state of public school education…I’m not sure those kids would do much better IN a classroom. At least with the panicked parents they’d be TRYING, and like Sarah says, the kids will learn something by accident.
It’s also why I’m telling anyone who will listen that there are ONLINE ACADEMIES out there that have been around for *ages.* Connections Academy is the one I have personal experience with, via youngest sibling. He did GREAT. They have actual teachers. They send you the books and computer (even the art supplies!) It’s considered “public” school, so none of that costs you anything–but the quality of the education from the baseline is already better. Sure, it still matters a LOT what the kid will put into it (as it always does, kids aren’t passive objects to soak up knowledge with no work at all on their part), and the parents still need to do the parent thing and make sure the kid does their work, but…it works great. My mother–who was a highly talented special ed teacher (during the years she chose to work, though most of my life she preferred the ‘mom’ job) turned to it when she realized that baby brother just could NOT separate “Mom” and “Also Teacher”–he’d get really upset at critiques, etc (I had the same issue when he asked me to check his writing assignments.) And they were constantly butting heads. Switching him over to the online academy, there was someone else in the role of “teacher” (and it’s not like he had to spend a ton of time interacting with them, either!) and he was able to handle Mom helping him (ie, doing the whole “this is what you need to fix/do better”) a lot better. (He still never asked me to critique his papers again until, heh, last year, which was first year of college.) He did AMAZING in his 3rd through 8th grade homeschool experience that way.
So yeah, if you know those panicking parents out there, tell them they DO have options other than “I have to take on the sole burden of my child’s education!” 😀 They still need to be involved but it doesn’t have to be during traditional school/work hours, and they can get a LOT of help figuring out what/how–and have someone else to turn to with questions to boot! (Also, the kid still gets to interact with other students in the academy. And if you don’t live in nowheresville like my parents, they even do local meetups!)
We started out with one of the K12 public schools for the first couple years, until state interference in it turned it much less flexible than we needed. It was fine, we tell everyone that for us it was “Homeschool with training wheels” until we had the confidence to go it alone. But there is a lot of hostility towards public school at home in the state homeschool association (and therefor in their social media groups, where folks are most likely to ask questions and interact), so the parents who are looking at that option end up discouraged from considering it, or simply told they don’t belong in the group if that is the option they’ve chosen.
There is a category of folk whose approach to Homeschooling is akin to the way some fanatics approach Revolutionary War Reenactment*, a rigid pursuit of “authenticity” that causes them to lose sight of the real goal: creating an educated adult person.
Falling down the “true” homeschooling rabbit hole is the equal-but-opposite error as adhering to public school pedagogy. Like home-cooking, home-schooling enables you to customize your menu according to individual characteristics. Demanding rigid adherence to a specific approach is antithetical to homeschooling.
There is but one rigid rule for homeschooling: do what works. Some children will learn Math from Kaplan, others will find Khan Academy more accessible, and a rare few will learn by reading Principia Mathematica. You get no grades via a specific methodology; it is results that count.
*If you know any re-enactors you know the levels: those who strive for surface authenticity (everything appears authentic and those who pursue “Stanislavskyian” authenticity, wearing not only period-authentic underwear and such medical aids as glasses but giving serious consideration to having their dental work redone to period proper.
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I know plenty of both (not to mention certain categories of Rennies and cosplayers) and agree wholeheartedly.
Me, I take the “if it sorta works we’re still going better than they did in public school and at least there are fewer tears” approach to homeschooling. Sometimes it sorta works better than others (and the amount of tears may vary), but if the graduate able to read, cypher, and (most particularly) write a coherent sentence* when we are done, they will be ahead of most college students. If they also pick up some critical thinking skills (we teach it formally, but mostly it seems to come from listening to their parents’ non-stop debates) before getting exposed to indoctrination masquerading as education in college, so much the better.
*Seriously, when I went to grad school, one of the toughest programs for my field in the country, I was stunned at how many of my soon-to-be professional colleagues could not write a sentence that you could understand. We had to do peer critiques of each other’s writing as part of the class that prepared us to write our theses and most things I was asked to look at were literally incomprehensible.
Everyone in that room had managed to get through both High School and college and be accepted to a highly competitive program (one that required a letter of application and an essay), and yet many did not understand even basic English sentence structure.
Our approach is something like “remember the stuff that really pissed me off about school? Let’s not do that.”
So the answer to wanting more information is that we go looking for it, not “that’s all there is.”
The answer to getting done quickly is getting to do the next thing. (Today, the Duchess finished her lessons, chores and basic upkeep stuff like folding her clothes, by 9:30. Required to advance in a class on Khan, finish ttwo pages in the workbook with writing that mom accepts, do typing and one of the non-core– I think it was iCivics, today)
The answer to having a problem is doing it until you get it right. (sometimes that involves backtracking, sometimes it’s just a will power thing)
The payoff, so far, is that our daughters don’t automatically assume someone being politely friendly is planning to shiv them.
One of the things my brother loved most about homeschooling was that if he so desired he could finish everything up in just three hours or so, and was not forced to wait around for a full eight hours. He could go do other stuff. Or get further ahead on school work.
*proud mommy*
The Empress (5) did three days worth of work, today, so she doesn’t have to do paper until next Tuesday. We’ll still do reading and computer, but SO proud she “got it” on doing a bunch of the stuff when you hit an easy stretch!
Awesome!!!
The lukeion project for classical education
Again, it isn’t the majority that I’m worried about, it’s that all the failures will be amplified to bring the rest of us to heel. Probably not an issue for me, I only have one left and he will be halfway through high school this year. But definitely an issue for new homeschoolers going forward.
I take some hope in the fact that even the freakin’ CALIFORNIA state supreme court shot down an attempt to prevent homeschooling there just a few years ago (granted, it was a few years ago). And, well…those parents need to not kowtow to the homeschooling groups just as they need to not kowtow to the public schools. I know, easier said than done.
But given the fact that the VAST majority of homeschooling shows test scores and so on that are *miles* ahead of public schools…that indicates to me that even “not great” homeschooling is miles better than public schools.
And don’t let people buy into the crap of “But you’re not a REAL teacher! How can you expect to educate your child properly?!” Because most “teachers” are maleducated twerps, and even if it’s just you the parent standing over your kid and going “Yes, you will read this book I’ve assigned you” is probably going to have them learning miles more than otherwise. (Just try to make sure it’s an INTERESTING educational book, and not that pap that makes up most textbooks, heh.) They do NOT have to be experts in every subject, not by a long shot–just willing to help their kid find the resources they need (which is super easy in the age of the internet). They might even find themselves fixing gaps in their own education alongside their child (::looks at my mother and fractions::)
Same with the “But your child won’t be socializzzzzzzed!” garbage. A.) A child is not a dog, and B.) Explain to me HOW an artifical social environment (kids sorted by age, and sometimes even by freakin’ alphabet) and full of bullies and being told to sit down and shut up and not ask so many questions (baby brother was constantly in trouble in elementary for “asking too many questions”–hence why he requested homeschooling at the end of 2nd grade, and also because bullies) is somehow a good thing? When homeschooling is done right, your kid will be learning to communicate effectively with people of all ages (even if you live in the middle of nowhere, Wyoming). When brother went back to public school for high school (girls and speech/debate, heh), he had no problem standing up to the various bully-teachers or the Big Bully principal (who found out quickly that my parents had brother’s back as well) in advocating for himself.
Here’s an article on the kind of stuff she’s worried about– and notably, this push was obviously started before the schools closed.
https://hslda.org/post/here-s-why-good-people-oppose-reasonable-homeschool-regulation
Hmmmm…’reasonable homeschool regulation’.
Is that like ‘reasonable gun control’?
Got it in one, there.
Things like requiring a teaching license, and permission from the superintendent to home school.
When we went to homeschooling the rules here in NC were that there had to be a college graduate in the house and there had to be an annual test. There was NO need to require any minimum score on the test as they figured out it would be impossible to not require a comparable standard for the public schools.
That was a couple decades back but if it has been changed I have not heard. The college degree requirement was pretty dumb, frankly.
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Washington had a college hours of a set level requirement, I blew it out of the water with my basic Navy credits– we left before the Princess was old enough to technically have to go to school, anyways.
All of these, but also the fact that whenever there is a case of abuse or neglect involving ‘homeschoolers’ (a term I use *very* loosely in this case) every article will emphasize the homeschool part, and demand home visits and other new regulations, while ignoring that the incidence of abuse and neglect is much higher in publicly schooled children and that much of the abuse happens in the schools themselves and is perpetrated by school employees, while supposedly under the watchful eye of the state.
The case that particularly comes to mind right now is the one in California where the parents had their children chained to beds for years and certainly did not educate the majority of them. Which was very much pushed as ‘why we need home visits and inspections for all homeschoolers’ despite the fact that the parents were complete monsters who would have done the same regardless of compulsory schooling laws.
My worry is that with the huge numbers of (in some cases extremely emotionally stressed, suddenly financially stressed, and fairly unprepared) new homeschoolers, statistically there will be some incidents of abuse or simply of a bunch of kids returning to public schools in a year behind academically (admittedly that is going to be even more of a problem with the ones officially distance learning under the public school system, but do you thing it will be spun that way by our complicit media?). Every incident will be magnified beyond proportion to reflect on *all* homeschoolers as an excuse to regulate us into compliance with whatever our benevolent government overlords have declared to be educational orthodoxy (or just to allow them to interfere with us as much as possible along the way).
Yes, I hope I’m wrong and that this year is the beginning of breaking up the government monopoly on education, but I also have been paying attention to how we have been portrayed in the media the last few years. And they will see every failure, no matter what, as an opportunity to regulate us.
Emphasize, hell, they’ll FLAT MAKE IT UP!
That case in California– they weren’t following ANY homeschool rules, and in fact one of the kids was going to classes with his female parent trailing behind him regularly (at least weekly), but they STILL tried to pin it on homeschoolers!
Some times they even count the parents yanking the kids out after a claim of abuse as homeschooling, when there isn’t even a week between that and the investigation!
beginning of breaking up the government monopoly on education, but I also have been paying attention to how we have been portrayed in the media the last few years. And they will see every failure, no matter what, as an opportunity to regulate us.
Like I said, and will be saying LOUDLY for some time– the article I posted was obviously part of a rather organized push against homeschooling.
If this all hadn’t hit, they’d have met in June, for a closed-to-the-public gabfest, and published articles in July, with things filtering into “everybody knows” right about now. We’ll ignore that HSLDA would’ve responded, they never account for organized counter-attacks.
Right now, when folks are trying to decide what to do, they’d be hit with a rush of articles– from HARVARD!!!!!— and aaaallll the family pressure about how incredibly bad homeschooling is unless you’re one of the very select few, and you’re not qualified to teach you kid to read (note: getting the F out of the way and letting them play on PBS sites can manage THAT in many cases) and it’s abuse and….
All the things every parent worries about. A fairly unified push from Experts. Right at decision time– before they’re sure they’ll be taking over again.
So when they are in charge, there will be a bunch of parents who are questioning their choice to send the kid back to school (because that’s what you do, almost constantly) and they can tap into THAT to get support for forbidding it. “It can’t be that good, look, it’s banned now!”
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Had a really freaky moment yesterday, I walked out of the room while my husband was watching something Cruz did on c-span, came back, and this gal was absolutely laying into the Dems– calling them on every stupid political trick they’ve been doing, clearly objecting to Barr’s treatment in what was supposed to be a questioning, even calling them out for not condeming Antifa while the Republicans come down like a sack of bricks on ANYBODY nasty.
When I said something like “Awesome! Tell ’em, lady.” my husband informed me that it was a Democrat and she was addressing Cruz.
Whiskey Tango?! Did their script writers decide that if they give them the lines for the good guys, it’ll work, nevermind that the other side hasn’t DONE what they’re supposedly being condemned for?
If they were planning that, Fox, they were planning the lockdown lst year.
*shakes head* If they had been planning this, they’d be focusing much differently. Their timing for this is TERRIBLE because the lock-down screwed it up.
One of the common “fixes” for what homeschooling does is to say “oh, just use the online public school option!”
That bypasses the part where your kid is being criminally assaulted at school.
AFTER they get a fairly large portion of the homeschooling inclined folks on that, then they start putting in restrictions like you have to be “in class” for all school hours, and you can’t opt out of sex grooming classes, and you have to let a social worker pop in at any time, or you have to send the kid in for group activities.
Slowly making it such a pain that the only advantage you get is that your kid isn’t getting assaulted. Which makes it much easier to lie to yourself and say that they’ll be fine, really…..
The lockdown screwed things up massively by making it very, very obvious that public schools can’t manage distance learning worth a fig.
At least, that’s what “everybody knows” now, since they were trying to re-create a system that most states offer for a fairly small number of students.
A kind of public school version of what we’re worried will happen with home schooling, honestly.
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They can’t manage public schools for kids with parents who care, but don’t have the know how or resources (internet). A few of these with the right help, be it outside district help or not, would eventually figure it out. Right now these folks are not being helped.
The kids whose parents don’t care? Or act like they care but little precious can do no wrong? The ones that are expected to get an A when they aren’t doing the work, and can’t pass a test? There are a lot of them. That doesn’t include the ones who shouldn’t be in classes anyway. I’m not talking about the physically handicapped, or the can’t-sit-still-itch-but-can-be-directed. I am referring to those that will never get beyond a certain age or those who are physically harmful to themselves & others.
I’ve mentioned it before. Do not get my Aunt on the topic of main streaming. Their daughter was the test case in Arizona for main streaming. She was Physically handicapped, not mentally. She needed an **aid to assist her in the bathroom, and occasionally deal with *wheelchair access issues, that’s it. She was reading and doing math at 4. As my aunt says often & loudly, “they took mainstreaming too far” (duh).
* This was the 70’s. Cousin passed away at age 13, 1980.
** Aunt was willing to be that aid, unpaid …
Some of them apparently could except the teachers object to the notion that the parents might actually see the class.
*sweet smile* Oh, yes, I did hear of a few cases where teachers deported themselves as normal and were horrified to get complaints.
Honestly, kids are more likely to ACCIDENTALLY learn something than htey are in our schools. At least they’re not being screamed out of whatever knowledge they managed to get.
One of the things the local district is looking at is renting out open rooms in the buildings to child care centers for the days when the kids aren’t in class.
Putting kids into school rooms rented by child care centers because the kids can’t be allowed into class…SMDH
Yeah that one is…I can’t even boggle, it’s so incredibly, transparently STUPID.
“A good chunk of those kids never even bothered logging in.”
Well, in fairness to those kids, neither did a large number of those teachers.
And a god bit of the essentials in the earlier grades (e.g., deportment) cannot be taught online.
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Heh. Pretty sure “deportment” is not even within sniffing distance of anything currently being taught. (And to be honest, that is NOT something that should be falling on schools’ heads anyway–that’s a freakin’ parent’s job. Expecting teachers–however maleducated and obnoxious many of them are these days–to somehow teach an overcrowded classroom of tiny savages how to behave in public is ridiculous. That should have been covered by parents, and there would still be some remaining savages that can then be dealt with as individual behavior issues. Far, FAR too much has been ceded to “oh, they’ll learn it in school” and then people wonder why their precious offspring are horrible…)
I think he means the “sit down in class, raise your hand to be called on” type deportment.
I’ve seen it routinely used as a reason that kids MUST be sent to preschool. -.-
I told my husband last week that a good section of those BLM protests marches, and the add-on looting, arson, smashing things, plus rioting was locked down high school teens cutting loose.
If the ONLY place you’re allowed to hang with your friends and not get hassled by the cops is the BLM
street partyprotest, then Hellooo Anti-Racism!!!. For some kids the risk of getting caught up in the bonus activities just makes it spicier.Wait until the first dusting of snow on the mountains, and it’ll be Snowpocalypse season again.
We’re still getting “hottest summer ever” here, and it has only topped 100 three days so far, and generally been quite mild. But facts aren’t relevant to inducements to panic.
They were pushing “running out of ground water” last year, but it was a hard sell, given that Interstate 30 swoops into Little Rock on a giant line of pylons over shiny swamp… er, “wetlands.”
Man, and it’s been a weirdly cold summer here in Wyoming. Not SUPER cold (no ridiculously late snowstorms, for one), but…normally by now I’m praying for the snowpocalypse to begin because the blooming rabbit brush is killing me. It generally begins blooming mid July–and it’s barely begun to bloom now, into the first week of August. And it’s only been in the last few weeks that we’ve gotten temps consistently in the 80s during the day–but it’s still getting very chilly at night.
And all the other signs are pointing to an early winter. The only thing I *haven’t* seen yet is trees beginning to turn early, but that could be because we got quite a lot of moisture this spring, and they’re not too stressed.
My tomatoes are not ripening. Despite the heat, it’s not enough to kick them into doing the “turn red and get salad edible” thing. I suspect the reduced solar radiation, plus having so many forest-fire-hazy days isn’t helping (something in CO and NM is sending smoke this way. The sunlight is orangy.)
I know NorCal is burning, too.
The Glorious Bear Flag Well Masked Peoples Republic does have a fair number of wildfires going right now ( https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/ ), but other than the Riverside one down south they are not that big overall.
The two way up in the top right corner past Susanville are fairly far away from everything, though from eth sat they are generating a lot of smoke.
Nothing like prior years so far (knocks on head).
*laughs*
The ones up in the top right corner are where my great-grandfather and his brothers settled, so there’s a big blob of places I know because we’ve got family there!
And Klamath is only like an hour or two away.
Here, not that you NEED it, but I find it rather neat that it exists:
https://fsapps.nwcg.gov/afm/
Active Fire map.
Might be erring on the pessimistic side, due to forecasting past what can be soundly forecasted.
My intuition this moment is that the forecasting horizon may be very shortened right now.
Everyone is crazy right now, and I’m not sure anyone can predict when and how people will come out of it.
Of course, that may simply be me.
I think about half the camel is in the tent already. “Occupy Fort Sumter” was a mostly peaceful protest until stuff suddenly got real in April 1861…
The Fed mostly ignoring the craziness. Many state and city governments are praising it. The media are spinning what’s useful to support their Narrative and ignoring the rest. I suspect there’s a *lot* going on out there that only the locals or people directly involved know about.
They keep setting up their own for the chop, but they haven’t quite managed to get their Horst Wessel yet. I think they started too early. “That guy, wherever it was, the one the cop knelt on, yeah, gonna riot about that… look, a squirrel!” “Huh? I thought we were rioting because Bad Texan murdered a mostly peaceful protester peacefully holding an AK-47?” “Dunno, just make sure we’re near the front of the pack when we raid Target, I missed a new big screen TV by *that* much last time…”
The thing that nobody seems to be pointing out is that should “widespread unrest” break out after the election, the logical reaction is going to be martial law. Which is going to be implemented *very* differently depending on who’s running each state. Forget mooning the electorate while in office, martial law the wonder drug they’re never going to want to let go of.
The more false starts on their Horst, the more their emotional space becomes crowded, possibly preventing otherwise viable Horst candidates.
When I think about the numbers, and the UCMJ as confounding factors, I conclude the martial law scenario is super unpredictable.
Come to think of it, the “Trump has a master plan to keep this election cycle fair” arguments seem to have a lot of the same problems with numbers.
> emotional space becomes crowded
That’s an interesting and likely useful concept. I shall steal it forthwith!
Two of the national newts stations were running weepy stories tonight about the idiot in Austin who got himself perforated. Make of it what you will.
The silence on the two women who got themselves pancaked while LARPing revolutionary games on a freeway (and put an innocent black man with no criminal record in chains) is deafening.
All hail the Holy Narrative!
They really DON’T know better than to play in traffic…
Did they win their Darwin Awards, or just get nominated?
One winner, the other we’ll know in a while.
Apparently they are very carefully NOT dealing with the major time conflict in the storyline– per the Trooper Rick Johnson twitter feed, the freeway was re-opened at 11:15pm on the 3rd, and there is nothing about shutting it down again until 1:55AM on the 4th.
Accident was at 1:40 AM.
Oh, wait, the reporters did recognize it, they buried the time of the accident from this follow-up report, and but kept repeating the claim based on…gosh, that same twitter account, and the officer’s statement when he thought the accident had happened hours later.
https://komonews.com/news/local/dawit-kelete-accused-driver-pleads-not-guilty-in-death-of-i-5-protester
Our public schools have a few ways to re-open-ish, with the closest to previous practice 2 days in class, 3 days distant. The catch is a requirement for decreased case count in the county and statewide, with criteria that seem to be cleverly designed to look plausible but are likely to be unattainable. Looks like Portland’s numbers will also be used to “help” determine the rest of the state, too. SMH. Pay no attention to the push to get more people tested. Not sure how other people’s BS detectors are working, but mine is due for a 50,000 lie service interval
OTOH, local public schools are generally horrible, with one high school ranked “pretty good” but the others “daycare with desks”. An option in our county is a home-school resource center; not sure how much it would screw up home schooling, but my cynicism gets outvoted by TPTB’s hypocrisy and cynicism.
Breitbart had a bit on the election where the Donks would consider secession if Orange Man won a electoral college win with Biden getting a “huge” (their words, not mine) popular vote majority. With Oregon’s Red counties fed up with the Salem/Portland axis of progressivism, I could see a rewrite of John Denver’s song to “Almost Heaven, East Oregon”. (not to mention E Cali and E Washington.) Kurt Schlicter’s People’s Republic might be the model, though his presumed Killary Hinton winning.
Hah! My BS detector overloaded months ago, and is still pegged. I think it needs an accessory, some equivalent of those extreme-high-voltage test probes you can get for meters and scopes.
I lived in California over 25 years. I had the industrial grade installed when Jerry Brown made his first run for president.
One of the amazing things is that what they’re doing MOSTLY is burning down their own institutions, the ones they spent generations long marching through.
They’re idiots, studying to be morons.
Not studying hard, either. Skipping classes and blowing off the homework. It’s going to take years for them to get up to moron level. (One of RAH’s better turns of phrase, Starship Troopers, I think.)
Minor signs of intelligence appear though. An article in Townhall (I think) showed that Portland PD is now willing to do stuff like policing against the mostly peaceful rioters and arsonists, starting after Mayor Ted Wheeler got an unfriendly reception while playing “Hello, fellow rioters.” The outraged Twitter commentary from the left is threatening to give me a schadenboner…
It’s interesting to contrast Portland PD’s approach with Minneapolis PD’s “bow to the thug and give him what he wants” message. OTOH, $LOCAL_CITY’s PD won’t put up with the commie crap to begin with.
I suspect the Minneapolis PD is essentially just bowing to their masters. They’ve said “The hell with it not worth dying to save some wealthy dude(tte) from the burbs, let it burn”. Being told do nothing they agreed. Rank and file probably think this sucks, but then again they don’t want to be fired/tried for using anything other a mild verbal reprimand. Kind of cowardly but quite comprehensible.
The acid test is what they do when people start defending themselves. Striking because of bad politicians is understandable if not great. Turning around and curbstomping an innocent trying to defend themselves is much less justifiable.
So far the police in many areas haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory.
Portland PD has had to deal with some court orders that strictly curtailed their non-lethal force options. The more limited they got, the less they did. I think a couple orders got turned so they started doing more again.
the more less lethal options get removed, the more likely lethal options are to be employed. When you’re only tool is a hammer, every problem gets smashed.
My impression had been the Feds told Oregon (ad Portland) “either you deal with it or we will continue to protect Federal property” and the local authorities decided to let their cops police.
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The latest news is that the thugs decided to shift to attacking another police station as a softer target than the federal courthouse. OTOH, Portland PD seems to be all out of patience. Got popcorn?
Well, if nothing else it shows they fully understand the actual value of those institutions…
Re one of those institutions long past marched through: Look! Publishing! https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/conde-nast-may-break-lease-magazines-moving-1-world-trade-center-1234725538/
Our schools are opening as a hybrid model, half the class 2 days/week, other half 2 days/week, and online the other three. In their infinite wisdom they’ve decided that lockers will not be issued to students this year. They are to bring their materials with them to class each day. Apparently they forgot all about ND winters being colder than a witch’s *it and everyone bundling up. Not sure how having the kids sitting with their winter gear at their desks is supposed to be more sanitary/less infectious than sticking them in a locker all day.
Suggestion, if you’re sending kids in:
Give them a rolling suitcase, like you’d use for carry on, instead of a backpack.
Might have to do that. Hopefully don’t have to, because I would hate to have to deal with the mold issue from being folded up in an enclosed case.
Rolling case for school gear, not wet coats, etc., would be my recommendation. We don’t get cold. We get wet, a lot of it. We ran into that in middle school. They didn’t have lockers period, except in home room which they could only get into first thing & last thing of school day. HS only Freshman/Sophomores were guaranteed lockers. Middle school we did the rolling backpack for school books & supplies, & teachers had to put up with wet outer coats & gear hung on chairs (they had to go outside to other classes). HS his Junior/Senor year locker = car for school gear and if needed jackets, but if wet enough, wet gear on back of chair. We made it clear that “rules have consequences” then pointed out the consequences to staff didn’t matter if that is how they saw it. Lack of resources has consequences.
They have a desk for their school supplies. Kids aren’t moving from room to room, the teachers are. It’s the problem of wear to put the clothing, especially if they go “green” and have all the kids in class at one time at some point.
*where* not wear
I do my best proofreading after I hit send
Join the proof reading after post club 🙂
Oh, so younger classes. Grade school I think they had open cubbyholes where they stashed their coats & home brought lunches. Haven’t had kid in school system, let alone grade school, in 13 years. Been a long time since we’ve had to go to the local grade school to rescue his various coats from the dreaded lost jacket collection in the cafeteria (usually left in cafeteria at lunch or abandoned somewhere on the play ground during lunch & other recesses).
I went to K-12 at a variety of schools, built anywhere from the late 1890s to 1950s. Don’t recall the storage situation K-2, might have been a peg on a wall for my coat and a rubber mat or such for galoshes. 3-6 was in the old school, and we had cloakrooms for each classroom. Supplies and books were in our desks.
Junior and senior HS, we had lockers.
Hardly ever saw a book bag through High School, but college had more gubbage to carry. Ended up with a surplus GI combat pack. The loop on the side was handy for securing my sliderule, and I used a shoulder strap on campus. (Used it with the GI cargo bag and regular pack straps for short trips home; it was good for a few days travel.)
We had lockers in junior high, but every few months the police would come in, cut off the locks, and rake everything out onto the ground while looking for drugs. Lost a nice coat and lunchbox to that, and my parents got tired of paying to replace the locks and damaged schoolbooks. (of COURSE the school wasn’t going to take any responsibility for either!)
I use an attache case for the rest of my incarceration in the school system. Caused considerable butthurt to various teachers; apparently I was supposed to hug everything to my chest and leave a trail of pencils and papers behind as I went from class to class, like everyone else. (book bags or backpacks were *not* a thing; i don’t know if they were forbidden, or nobody had thought of them yet) Why anyone should care that I used a briefcase was beyond me, but it only occasioned Grave Displeasure, not expulsion. Maybe they’d gotten tired of the paperwork involved with expelling me by then. (please sir, may I have another week away from this hell?)
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Saw & got my first book bag/backpack start of freshman college year. Paid a pretty penny for it back then too given when it was. I remember thinking then wishing I’d had it from 7th grade on. Especially 7th through 9th. Not only notebooks & school books being toted home on the bus, but I was in band, which meant carrying a clarinet case too. Usually standing on the bus, every morning, because by the time bus got to our stop there was not place to sit & saving spots by friends at earlier stops wasn’t allowed. Or walking up two or three earlier stops, which wasn’t allowed either. HS walked, but wasn’t playing an instrument by then.
Most older male teachers used to carry briefcases; I know my dad did.
So banning briefcases Would Have Been Bad.
I don’t see that stopping them from banning them for students….
I have a vague memory of somebody using an attache case in high school (I graduated 1970). Said person was odd, even by Odd standards. Might have been the guy who carried a bottle of acid for self defense against the occasional thug. (The vote didn’t happen, but he might have been considered the guy most likely to miss a class reunion because of 5150 incarceration…)
My locker got broken into; Official HS combination locks had a master keyed lock cylinder in back, and somebody had a field day with a copy of the master. Lost a couple of text books, and my folks insisted I get a new locker with a non-standard lock near the Dean’s office. Odd^2 had a locker in the same bank. I didn’t ask for details; my sense of survival said “Don’t want to know!” FWIW, TPTB decided that the liability was too great and they permanently glued the key cylinder shut on the couple thousand locks. (Huge high school; this was Fresh/Soph, with the older kids on a different campus.)
Can drape the coat on the outside of the roller– that’s part of why you’d want the sort for carry-on, the handle can expand up and hold it.
Yes, it’s a kludge, but it beats getting sick.
You’ll also have to deal with the issue of your jurisdiction having a “no opaque backpacks” policy.
luckily we don’t have that issue here
Honestly, if I were a kid in a school that pulled that, I’d plaster the inside of my see-through backpack with sanitary napkins or tampons, and just WAIT for one of the adults to protest…(Granted, that would have to be me with the attitude I have now, not me as a teen. But still. Would be glorious.)
It’s to instill obedience to even the stupidest orders, not any actual health reasons.
Like those Corona germs in Ohio bars, that are harmless until 10 PM, when they’re suddenly virulent. Or the ones in New York, that are harmless as long as “a meal” is being served along with booze.
And it better be a REAL meal none of the chicken wings stuff. Oddly NYC had laws like this back in the 1910’s before prohibition when the WCTU types forced them through before prohibition. One of the quick ideas the Italian Bars (and for some reason MANY bars were run by Italians) came up with was a variant on a bread based item that was kind of a hack you get from the neighborhood bakery in Italy. We call it Pizza.
De Blasio is about half as smart as Andrew Cuomo, who is about half as smart as his father, who was a moron.
And, of course, Judge Posner is still a moron. At least we can be thankful that he has had no input to the current situation (yet).
Earlier than that, even, at least with regards to Sundays. When Theodore Roosevelt was one of the commissioners of the NYPD in the 1890’s, such a law as you describe was on the books for Sundays: no drink sales, but drinks could be served with a meal. It wasn’t enforced because the bar owners routinely paid off the politicians and cops asking for a “donation” to be allowed to stay open. To counter the corruption Roosevelt ordered the law strictly enforced. So bars started making pro-forma meals whose price included a drink. The beer garden-loving German immigrants were upset with Roosevelt, who basically said “don’t blame me, get the law changed.”
Enforcing ‘dry’ laws has always been an excellent way to get them repealed.
Of course, the real (and overlooked) lesson of Prohibition is that we can repeal laws that annoy us. We,should do it more often, no matter what the Elite Experts say.
Having dated a Wiccan priestess in college, I no longer use the ‘Witch’s’, uh, ‘bosom’ metaphor since I know it not to be accurate. Now I usually go with ‘Tax collector’s heart’.
tax collectors have a heart? I wonder how they taste? I’m a fan of all giblets
2020 the the year of completely predictable unforeseen circumstances.
Medical personnel being out of work during a pandemic? That happens when you don’t allow normal operations to continue and delay everything not immediately fatal.
Shortages of various meats and veggies? When you close down processing plants, and the various places that receive their products that’s gonna happen.
People not wanting to go back to work because they are making more on unemployment than they were working full time? Yeah, that extra $600/week in unemployment isn’t gonna affect anyone’s views on going to work, is it?
Items that used to be $50 and could be here in under a week now costing $500 and will arrive in three, maybe four, months if you’re lucky? Yeah, shutting down international trade will do that.
re: para 4
like Uber drivers?
well, that’s my theory as to why there are almost no other drivers out
“that extra $600/week in unemployment isn’t gonna affect anyone’s views on going to work, is it?”
In my case, it didn’t. I’m going bug-nuts sitting around the house all day with nothing to do. So I have been job hunting ever since I was furloughed in April. The extra $ was shoved into savings to cover the shortage that would come later.
What? Employers aren’t telling Unemployment that so-&-so was called back to work but won’t come back? That, in Oregon, in theory, is reason to get Unemployment cut off, by the state. If they aren’t being called back to work it is a little more difficult for employers to spill on people they offer jobs to but the person doesn’t take it (prospective employer would have name, but no SS# to report), or for Unemployment to check on job searches, if they are even requiring it.
I’ve been on unemployment. More than once. There be rules to follow, on both sides. When we were working as Log Scalers, certain rules didn’t apply as long as we had assurances of a call back. It was a job that had regular annual “Lack of Work”. Between jobs in software, they couldn’t force me to take a job at say Burger King or even in Retail. Not that those type of employers would hire me … something about quitting them with little to no notice, when a better fit & better pay came along. They weren’t wrong.
If the last 4 years have taught us anything, it’s that rules are optional if they get in the way of Democrats. High unemployment is good for bashing Trump? People will be kept on unemployment rolls.
I’ve been on unemployment, too, and it struck me that if one didn’t have a car there was an awful lot of your life that would get eaten up going to ‘must attend’ meetings. Getting a job again was a major relief, and I had a car.
I think most of those rules were suspended in many places for the pandemic. I know most places suspended the “must look for work” requirement.
Of course I’ve been self-employed for quite a few years so I got no benefits from the government screwing with my work. All I get is headaches, hassles, and less money coming in.
Same here. All our sales events vanished, but because we always take the standard mileage allowance and standard meal allowance in order to minimize our tax liability, we didn’t qualify for the expanded unemployment insurance.
We’re watching the two November conventions, trying to figure out if they will happen, and avoid getting any more of our working capital tied up if they don’t. Then begins the watch on 2021 conventions. I’ve heard some people saying not to count on things reopening in time for that either.
OTOH, if things come apart at the seams, there won’t be a 2021 convention season either — but it may well not matter for me. At my age and with my health issues, I don’t think I’d last long in a Cry Havoc type of situation.
One of my old coworkers used the “witches bosom,” quote. I’m reasonably sure he wasn’t thinking of Wiccans.
His other catch phrase was, “You lie like a cheap rug.”
I’m waiting to hear Sarah’s commentary on Louisville… 😀
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BLM giving all the businesses in a gentrified area a list o f demands, one cuban business owner told them to eff off…
Demands like “donating” 1.5% of receipts to designated non-profits, diversity hires, etc.
Nice Business you have there, be a shame if it burned down… Today looks more like C.M Kornbluth’s “The Syndic” than 1984 or “Brave New World”. Might be worth getting the REAL mob in to solve the system if the city/state won’t. This is going to get REAL ugly.
I’ve seen occassional reports of black gangs essentially telling Antifa and BLM to go away.
Yeah, classic extortion scheme any mafioso would be proud of. Honestly, it is starting to look like they’d be better off with mob “protection” given the response so far seen from the Louisville police.
The Syndic was efficient and offered good value for money; it was an effective and popular government. And the bagmen gave or loaned you money if you were having hard times; taxation and welfare were two aspects of the same system. And the bagman was a local, someone you dealt with personally every week, not a bunch of alphabet-soup deductions from your paycheck or a borderline-incomprehensible tax form.
It appears to be receiving some media attention, including as subject for the Wall Street Journal‘s “Best of the Web Today” column — which cites reports in the Louisville Courier-Journal and the local ABC affiliate. Searching for the name of the restaurant (La Bodeguita de Mima)” or its owner (Fernando Martinez) might prove illuminating.
Ir you aren’t antiracist you are racist?
Bushwa.
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Ir you aren’t antiracist you are racist?
Yep. That’s what some of them are saying.
“Be racist like we are or you’re evil,” basically the same junk they pushed with Jim Crow.
depending on time lines, They’ve either seen themselves or family has seen the same before.
The couple of Cubans and Cambodians I’ve known are NOT fans and will likely reply shortly, pointedly, and backed by S&W, Remington, Ithaca, Benelli et al.
Well, when the hood met the barrio in LA in 2013 (actually earlier) the hood lost.
https://www.latimes.com/local/la-xpm-2013-jan-25-la-me-0126-compton-20130126-story.html
“The attacks on the family are the latest in a series of violent incidents in which Latino gangs targeted blacks in parts of greater Los Angeles over the last decade.
Compton, with a population of about 97,000, was predominantly black for many years. It is now 65% Latino and 33% black, according to the 2010 U.S. census. But it’s not only historically black areas that have been targeted.”
The State SecEd or somebody ruled that Pennsylvania public schools would be reopening on time for the 2020-2021 School Year and that, while social distancing kabuki would be in effect, all teachers would report to the classrooms on opening day or else!
The Teachers’ Unions are, predictably, in full-meltdown mode, because how dare the EVIL RETHUGLICAN FASCISTS threaten their lives and the lives of their precious children!!!! Never mind the fact that the PA Government is currently dominated by the Democrat Party….
The union can . . . Sorry. Day Job is meeting in person, but with certain precautions. And some of those will double my duty load. I’m a bit irked, but now’s not the time to squall.
I suppose it’s too much to hope for that the conflict over schools opening gets the Teachers’ Unions kicked to the curb.
*sigh*
I wish…. but given that they, for all intents and purposes, seem to run the state….
c4c
Unrelated (or at least probably unrelated, I haven’t read Sarah’s yet):
https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/
Via Cautious Optimist on Facebook.
It is terrifyingly making-sense.
Ha, of course they won’t debate you. They don’t have a platform, all they have is REEEEEEEE!!!!!
Just punch them in the face while they’re reee-ing.
That’s what they have planned for you, after all. First they reee, then they try to cave in your head with the 2×4 they’re holding up that peace sign with.
Well now. I read that link after I made my snarky comment, That’s a really -good- link. That makes perfect sense. I’ve known there’s no point in talking to these people for 20 years now, and this article is a great explanation or why.
Having read it, I stand by my original snarky comment. It’s about the only thing you can do that will get their attention.
“Welcome to the party, pal.”
I’ve been saying the same thing for quite a while: We can’t live in the same society with Leftists.
The problem with the wokies that believe in that tripe is that there can only be one end: violent ending in a total annihilation of the losing side. It involves the literal (classical meaning, not the neo-liberal one) destruction of all the things they not only don’t like, but the things they do. It’s the destruction of their very means of survival beyond a short time frame.
I was impressed with how it laid out a system that justified and defended the existing “being a pissy, emotion-driven twit” in a somewhat coherent manner.
They actually believe that history has sides and they are on the “right side” of it, and thus anything they do to those declared to be on the “wrong side” of history is justified, in the same way that they believe that history is an arrow moving “forward” (in the full Marxist sense) towards the “inevitable” Marxist utopia (which of course a dystopia like Oceania).
History does have sides. There is the sides of the Gods of the Copybook Headings and the loosing side.
Well, yeah.
Any method of resolving disputes that is not rigged in their favor is ‘rigged against them’, and discussing that never gets anywhere. That leaves methods that ‘resolve’ disputes by forcing reciprocity by way of reprisal.
Problem is, because they are race nutters, the more obvious parallel reprisals would splash on innocents.
There are still few enough of them that we might be able to stick with methods that work in populations that are willing to discuss methods of resolving disputes whose outcomes are not automatically certain.
Failing that, the notion that the woke are people, and the notion that it is wrong to burn them alive could be understood as social constructs. Language like criminal justice reform, equity, inclusion, etc. are totes the systemic oppression. 😛
This may be part of why I am such an angry SOB with vicious policy tastes. The more one is a truly isolated shut in, the fewer real people one actually knows, and the more heavily these sort of loud lunatics are weighted in one’s attempt to model societies. There flat out is not /enough/ horrible stuff going on for these idiots to be a majority of any of the minority groups.
There can’t be that many of these kind of nuts– although they do infect some folks’ unspoken assumptions– because it cannot function.
You cannot have a group where everybody really believes and practices the “belief creates reality” thing. It’s a crab-bucket without anybody productive LEFT.
Haven’t been on a college campus or in Corporate HR lately, have you?
Thank you for illustrating that no, they can’t be around where they have to function.
They get paid for it.
I’ll pass on yet another stuffed rabbit chase, thank you.
We’ve gone from “You cannot have a group where everybody really believes and practices the “belief creates reality” thing.” to “some tiny subsets of the population have noisy members who loudly proclaim this stuff.”
Which is basically a repeat of the article which I linked, seeing as it is citing some of the crazies from those two demongraphics.
(…yes, it’s a typo, but I like that typo)
Yes, I have been.
It is like the appearance and reality of every other creed. Saying the words doesn’t actually mean that one practices the faith internally. Now, there are definitely noisy people who most likely do believe this stuff.
But if it were as omnipresent as the noisy folks make it seem, the organization would be entirely garbage, and I would have no reason not to leave or metaphorically burn the place down.
The people saying, ‘oh, yes, this is the thing’, have got to be at least partly time serving bureaucrats who tolerate the whining because the whiners are willing to metaphorically burn the place down.
And I’m much less confident in salvaging anything of the organization than I am for the chances of American society as a whole.
It may well be that the answer is the willingness to metaphorically burn things down. It may well be that HR and universities are useless enough to tolerate a very high fraction of these lunatics.
Realized something–
shorter version would be “It’s not fair unless I win” and “you don’t understand unless you agree with me.”
But with lots and lots of words to cover it up.
A group I belong to is having a blowup because of this. The original complaint was on a FB post which somehow got mixed up with one of our gay members feeling somehow criticized (I’m not clear on this, as we were not there when it happened). Then the group held a virtual meeting where the “victim,” (not the gay person I mentioned previously) had a written statement and no one was allowed to interrupt. Somehow we bounced from, ” you don’t know how much refusing to use my pronouns hurts me,” to being accused of indifference to, “the greatest civil rights issue of our age,” (BLM) back to, “you are awful people if you don’t do what I want.” We had a “gay Muslim iman,” trying to moderate who most of us have never met. BTW, this is a group founded purely for social activity.
When I posted this was a political move – aka a struggle session – someone announced they felt “attacked,” and the post was taken down. Most of the membership is sincerely convinced this is simply a set of conflicts which can be resolved by patient goodwill.
The entirety of our public school system and the university systems are in essence Maoist struggle sessions that are designed to indoctrinate and to force those unwilling to accept the indoctrination to conform or be excommunicated from society.
Weaponized manners.
I’ve seen a LOT of demands for charity, interspaced with the most gross violation of charity you could ask for.
I’m sorry.
I don’t know how to fix it. 😦
Gay, muslim imam….. IOW complete moron who doesn’t know anything about Islam or what they DO to gay people.
That would be my first objection.
Um, yes. That was my take. I just plain did not like him and wonder how much of the carefully crafted scenario was his doing. My husband tried an internet search and while he found nothing on the guy’s religious status he did learn he works for the San Francisco school system. What a surprise! (Sarcasm off).
Too frequently people walk away as soon as one of those cards gets played. Not because they agree or are shamed but because they see too little gain for all of the hassle entailed in continuing the discussion. It’s easier to simply walk away and, if the card gets played too frequently, find a different place to hang out.
There’s a big difference between convincing people you are right and convincing them you are not worth arguing with.
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Which is why the Left is so hot for mail in voting. Their poll workers will know exactly who voted for Trump and where to send the mob.
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Technically not the way it is suppose to work in Oregon, at least. In Oregon the mail in ballots are suppose to go through two processes, once it is delivered* . Similar to how the polls used to work.
Two groups. One to check the outer signed envelope for signature against registration card. Validated or notify & set aside for verification**. Validated then the ballot is pulled from the envelope & passed to the next group. Our ballots have a secrecy envelope that voters can use, not required, but it prevents the first group from knowing how you voted. Second group is the one who feeds the machines***. Both groups, and second group especially, are suppose to have representatives of all parties overseeing the process.
In person polls had two groups working too. One group to check people in, when you signed the polls, & check signatures. Another to collect the ballots, which were then taken to county seat for processing by the machines, over seen by another group.
The biggest hole, in theory, in Oregon, is voter registration is offered to be completed at the DMV when you get or renew drivers’ license. They aren’t suppose,/i> to offer up to underage (16 & 17 year olds) nor undocumented, but …
* Delivery could be via USPS, or via direct drop boxes no USPS involved. No prepaid. Must be received at appropriate County offices or drop boxes (by certain time) of election day, USPS postmark irregardless. Translation, if your ballot is postmarked on “last day to mail to get on time” and it doesn’t get there on time? Tough luck. Too bad. So sad. Complicated by the fact that anything mailed in Lane County goes to Portland for processing, even if you mailed it in Eugene, destination Eugene (go figure). Why we use the drop boxes, day of.
** I know that the second one does happen. Attempts are made to contact irregular signatures, at which point the individual goes to the county with id and verifies their signature. Suppose to stop the nursing home, spousal, incompetent, vote for types. Plus it is suppose to stop ballots of those who should have been purged from the system, because signatures wouldn’t even be close to what is on file. How I know verification is done? Hubby & son both have horrible & irregular signatures. They have both been called in for signature verification.
*** Use the same ballots as before. Same machines that counted them before. Just the ballots don’t have to be transported to the county offices from the various poling locations to be fed into the machines.
I read it. It indeed makes too much sense. It’s the whole “if I treat you as an equal that means I am BELOW you, because I don’t believe in equals” wrapped in philosophic balderdash.
Oh for the Luddites. They at least knew what they were doing banning machines.
It’s a three year old with a philosophical BS generator.
“What’s yours is mine,” “I can’t find it so you stole it,” “He’s looking at me!” and “NOOOOOO!”
No. It is terrifying NONSENSE. They are exactly the sort of bigoted religious fanatic they consider all believing Christians to be. The bone headed, dangerous, evil mothers of platitudes they make the villains in so many of their stories.
America, as usual is doing better. We probably won’t starve
Additional good news– I tend to have the radio on a LOT, caught the farm report.
Iowa is between a week and a MONTH ahead of either the five year average or last year’s growth progress on all the crops they were reporting. (I think there was one where they were only five days ahead of the five year average, but every single example was ahead of the curve.)
The food shortages seem to be “unevenly distributed.” A couple of months ago Mrs. TRX discovered the local steakhouse had reduced their prices and increased serving sizes, and they’re using better beef, too. And we can buy a prepared dinner for only slightly more than buying raw meat in a package at the grocery store. So we’ve been taking advantage of that, despite my increasing allergy to beef. Might as well eat it while I can, and it’s available and relatively cheap…
Might be a logistical thing. If you’ve got a lot of meat, but can’t get it out of state…
Right, the animals and materials seem to be fine. The processing system (especially meat plants) are having a heck of a time. As almost all modern stores use box beef NOT quarters or halves any more they’re really dependent on the processing.
yeah, prices here vary wildly.
We went from burger being near $5/lb to sirloin under that price to Ribeye for $6/lb to same Ribeye $15/lb to $10 to $14. Choice cuts are a bit high this past weekend (I HAD to go shopping) but Top and Bottom round roasts and their blend burger (50/50 pork/beef) were pre-Wu-plague prices, T-bones and NY Strip were on sale, Chuck and sirloin on the higher side of the norm as is the lean burger or their “Sirloin” burger. 80/20 burger was higher than I like at $4.89/lb, but two weeks ago it was a sale item at $3.49/lb $3.29 at Family Pack size.
I think there may be a surplus of “things restaurants used to buy before they were shut down.” You can’t just stick meat in the warehouse and sell it next year.
yeah, and it is planned out a good bit too.
They’re saying ND didn’t plant about 2.5 Million acres this year.
Looks like it’s true, but divorced from context like what percent is that, and is that acres planned or vs last year or…. (My family doesn’t do much field stuff, so I don’t know more metrics.)
Was looking for how many acres they usually plant, and found this:
FIELD CROP TOTALS, PRINCIPAL, INCL POTATOES – ACRES PLANTED 311,881,000 302,623,000 319,305,000 318,340,000 318,977,000 319,047,000
Link probably won’t work, but:
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_Subject/result.php?54ED49D7-5776-3360-9882-DD4FCFB4AAA5§or=CROPS&group=FIELD%20CROPS&comm=FIELD%20CROP%20TOTALS
So while yeah, 2.5 million acres weren’t planted due to being too wet, they also planted 9 million more acres than last year; while they’re below the 5 year average for main crops reported (wheat, corn, soybeans, etc) , they’re well ahead of last year.
I can tell you a couple of things from here in the People’s Republik of Kanaduh:
1. People generally are not catching this bug. In discussion with docs who have large practices, people are not reporting problems with Corona.
2. Many people are starting to think this whole thing is a scam. The conspiracy theory that Covid-19 is a government scam is really gaining traction. And this is docs I’m talking to, their patients are telling them this.
The problem is of course that there really is a bug, I’ve seen it make somebody close to me very sick indeed, let me tell you. I take my precautions when I go to the store, and I don’t go often. Too bad so sad, retailers.
Among the medical field here in Ontario, respect for the medical authorities is very low indeed. We saw the government completely drop the ball on protective equipment early on, then flatly LIE about mask use because they didn’t have any masks, then do a 180 and masks are now mandatory in many places. So doctors are looking at a government medical which has been on literally every side of the question in the space of what, four months? Docs are quietly saying nobody is at the helm, and the ship already hit the iceberg, backed up and then hit it again.
3. The media is trying to gin up panic, and even 80 year old ladies aren’t buying it. Nobody is buying it.
Mostly people are pretty surly and hoarding toilet paper at this point. If the government comes and tries some crazy thing, the country is not going to move. They’re going to sit there, hug their toilet paper stash and calculate angles of escape.
In Canada, Antifa is getting beat up by girls with hockey sticks.
-NOBODY- is watching the NHL friggin’ Stanley Cup Playoffs, in August, in a friggin’ heat wave, in empty rinks with #BLM banners and some asshole taking the knee during O Canada. First they fired Don Cherry, and now we’ve got AMERICAN politics in OUR hockey arenas? You can hear the people changing channels. [click!]
So relax. They’re circling the bowl. They are so F-ed, they don’t even know how f-ed they are.
I take precautions too, since I also know a person who caught it (and recovered). But then I see the media telling me with a straight face that not one single case of COVID-19 can be traced to the BLM protests a few months ago. If that’s true, why can’t we hold conventions? Why are the movie theatres still closed?
At least here in US, no cases can be traced to the BLM protests because the contact tracers are forbidden from asking about protest attendance, and recording such details. I imagine it isn’t much different in Canada.
It’s because of this guy. Corona-chan just *knows*, okay? It’s Science!
I’ll again post my kvetch that we are not going to actually learn from this. There have been real failures at every level of government, much of health care, and its again shown the weakness of JIT and outsourcing. That’s more holy cows than if the Pope owned a Burger King.
Cdc and testing, the IOUs in emergency stockpiles, the complete ignorance of the problem until the northeast exploded and scary models were dropped, and many more.
The teacher union garbage wont help because at least some will hook it up to the “ed for red” strikes back in 18. Once you include instructions as to how your employer must come up with funds for arguably employment related demands it becomes politics. But they flipped the house with it so gonna do it all again.
I think I’ve even seen mention of BLM stuff at Euro sporting events.
The “scam” accusations are also a problem because they’re now used as a strawman against those who criticize the government’s response.
OTOH, you have my primary care doctor sending out practice messages citing the BBC as a “historically accurate news source”. Haven’t responded to that one yet.
You mean the same BBC that portrays Jews as having never lived in East Jerusalem or the West Bank until 1967?
“In Canada, Antifa is getting beat up by girls with hockey sticks”
source? I’d LOVE to see Antifa vs St. Trinians.
Winnipeg. Idiots lying down in the road blocking traffic, girls jumping out of the car and doing a little high-sticking. CBC viewed with alarm.
https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-police-investigating-after-hockey-stick-assault-at-black-and-indigenous-lives-matter-rally-1.5014735
What’s frigging hilarious here is that this kind of thing happens every single Friday night at bars all over town. Start something? Some chick will smack you for sassing their boyfriend.
Smart gals. No girl wants to have to find her own way home, especially on a Friday night. People are likely to talk.
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The problem with trading scientific/medical credibility for political viability is that you can’t get it back. It’s not even a matter of “we don’t really know, but these steps might help” but rather “this is what needs to be done by everyone, no matter the risk or consequences.” And once the people can see with their own lying eyes what is happening versus what they are told is happening many will no longer believe true and accurate reports because of the history of false reports pushed out before.
The boy who cried wolf, writ large…
I,too, live in Ontario. I know someone who worked in as an in home nurse. They still talk to former co-workers with the required bi-weekly Covid-19 tests. Those co-workers are telling her that if someone tests positive, then is tested 2 weeks later and is still positive, that 2nd test is reported as a brand new case.
With stories like that going around, people are understandably starting to not trust the numbers. If the stories are true, with good reason, if they are lies, well, why are these lies starting? That’s just how humans work. Too much conflicting information, and no one knows who or what to believe. They’ll revert to previously known info, or what they think is solid, and cling to it with a death grip.
I can tell you right now that the testing around here (Hamilton area) was bullshit in March/April. People who obviously had it were deliberately not being tested. I can also tell you that the testing accuracy was poor, with lots of false positives and false -negatives-. I’m not up on the situation this month, I strongly doubt it has improved.
My personal favorite situation is the infestation of public parks in Toronto with Antifa/BLM/ what have you idiots camping out, same idiots camping on Nathan Philips Square with the Metro Toronto cops actively keeping people away from the site. Meanwhile, at exactly the same time the Green Hornets are out ticketing people for standing too close to each other on the sidewalk, or walking their dog without a face mask.
Oh and firefights between dozens of guys with hundreds of rounds fired up in the Jane/Finch area. And people shooting at each other -across- the 401, that was a great one. That’s all happening this summer too.
> required bi-weekly Covid-19 tests
I hear there are labs in Florida that will process their samples for cheap!
My youngest sister just tested positive. She’s been rather sick for a week already.
Bad thing is, she lives behind the house Mom and Dad live in, and needs to use the bathroom in their house. Luckily there are two bathrooms in the place, but she has to walk through the place to get to it.
So far, so good. Dad has been tested a few times now (VA getting caught up on surgeries so he has had his eyes cleared up) and come up clean.
Also, Sis works in an office where they’ve had to mask up to work. Didn’t help, as the drivers been catching it and it has gone through the offices.
Drivers?
works for Brimm Snacks, the drivers go out and deliver to grocers, gas stations etc.
Make sure she’s got an electric blanket, warming pad, etc. to keep her body and especially her chest toasty warm. Lots of liquids, lots of zinc, lots of vitamins like D and A and C. Because I know she’s probably taking all kinds of good stuff (hopefully), but sometimes the cheap support stuff also helps a lot.
Oh, and melatonin for sleeping apparently also helps hold off cytokine storms. (It’s in stuff like turkey too, of course.)
Also in kiwifruit!
She already takes a cocktail of drugs for bipolar and associated side effects, so who knows what she can take with that.
Emphasis on the D and Zinc: Pretty much everyone is low on D anyway and deficiencies are known to be bad with Kung Flu. Zinc inhibits viral replication.
Oh, and if you’re on metformin, it causes you to shed zinc and d.
(Yes, that’s the source of “overweight” being a co-morbidity.)
*looks up metformin*
Ooooh, I knew that diabetes was the true source of the weight issue. Didn’t know this detail.
Sadly I have a relative going intermittently loopy with kung-panic. ‘Bout ready to tell them to start taking D+Zinc or stfu.
been on metformin 1/5 years now, been taking Vit. D since about ’03. I need to add zinc, but have been avoiding the stores with their new kabuki mask order
Try Amazon. Specifically the AmazonBasics brand.
Most of the vitamin industry gets by with rather questionable quality controls. I hear that Amazon does not put up with this.
Amazon has zinc
The Stress b-complex stuff has zinc and D, generally.
It’s not hard to find out what may have bad interactions. Drugs dot com has an interaction checker tool and it seems pretty good.
the trouble is convincing her to do so
If it’s a flimsy cloth mask it’s useless. No seal, so not only is your breath going through, it’s going out to either sides. Test it yourself with a cigarette.
Fitted N-95 mask? Some good.
Keep washing your hands and keep chloroxing surfaces you’re in contact with (there’s a good recipe out there, and it’s cheaper than wipes: use cut up t-shirts / rags and drop the used in a bin until you get a laundry load full) If coughing/sneezing (or in danger from others doing so) wear a face shield.
I’ve been telling folks that despite how it looks, I actually know masks can work.
IF they are a sterile N99, correctly fitted, and used for less than an hour. and once off is a biohazard medical waste.
At the start of this, one of the owners bought a large amount of masks and sanitizer for the company to provide the workers, and found the shipment short-stopped and confiscated by some gov’t busybody thinking they were going to price gouge the items (this, btw, at the time when Falsey was saying masks were useless) because they had them delivered to their home address.
The fact that the school isn’t setting up biohazard bins all over the place for mask disposal tells me all I need to know about how serious they are about this ‘pandemic’ and safety.
Also, anyone who thinks kids are a.) going to wear masks ALL DAY correctly, b.) not swap masks for a cooler looking one (or, in the case of bullies, beat up a kid for their ‘cooler looking’ maks), and c.) lick their hands and chase each other around hollering “corona!!” have never met a kid in their lives.
There is a REASON that schools are nasty petri dishes of disease, and it’s not just because parents send their kids to school sick because they have to work.
THISTHISTHISTHISTHIS.
that there no bins EVERYWHERE.
Yes. This. It’s the whole mess in a nutshell. Any of the responses *could* have worked if taken seriously, but no, it’s half-assed + virtue-signalling hoping x Jack-booted Karen-ing.
Bah.
Protect the vulnerable and quarantine the sick while doing your best for them.
We got “Send the sick back in with the vulnerable”, and quarantine the healthy (and in places like NYFC “healthy, or not quite as healthy but not sick, packed in with the sick, so they get a massive viral load from the crap environmental systems)”
“We’re in this because they’re losing. But they’re going to put us through hell on the way there.”
I beg to disagree. WE are going to put THEM through hell. Express routing.
What we might want to start thinking about is the aftermath.
“…that because we ain’t played Cowboys and Liberals yet…”
I think we should have a new plan: To crush the Left, to see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentations of their women. (Thanks, Conan, for your inspirational leadership lessons.)
I don’t want to HEAR their ‘women’. Bunch of self-important whingeing twunts, some of them female.
Crush the Liberals
See them driven before us
And hear the lamentation of the media
(set to the tune of “Conan, the Musical”. Try YouTube)
Instapundit likes to headline good election news with “Don’t get cocky.” I understand the sentiment, but I think a better line would be “Make the rubble bounce.” It’s not that Americans need to get to the polls to squeak out a victory, we need to get to the polls to ensure that the Democrats suffer a humiliating defeat. Only then will there be a chance of them learning the folly of listening to Progressives.
If Trump loses the Left will learn that riots work, so the various factions will start rioting against each other to advance their specific agenda. Right up until the Man on the White Horse shows up to restore order.
If Trump barely wins, the Left will figure that they just have to do the rioting harder and…riotier. For the next four years.
Only if Democrat after Democrat at all levels see their careers cut short and their power stripped from them will they possibly look inward and realize that they have abandoned the electorate and need to turn back.
To crush their political power, to drive them from public life with ridicule, mockery, and shaming, to defenestrate them from the Overton Window, and to subject their agents in the government bureaucracies to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
But I must confess to agreeing with the sentiment of “I’m torn between being glad that we as a country are too civilized to send those disappeared Communists on one way helicopter rides, and thinking it might be better for the future if we did.”
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Fwiw, I am currently at Mayo in Rochester, MN. I am not the patient. I will be the post-procedure (elective, technically) driver.
Hope it all goes well.
The “elective, technically” is not awesome, but at least it’s happening….
Issue is not life threatening, but has been an (increasing?) annoyance for some time. The end result should be not needing the prism part of the glasses.
Being able to see is a goooood thing.
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All went well.
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Yay! Sleep tight tonight. ~:D
Glad to read it!
Blessings on you and the patient.
Say hi to the Borg Collective for me. So many people jetting around town on scooters with equipment trailers full of Borg implant support gear. So many hotel rooms that are beeping…
Did you take your picture with the corn-cob water tower yet? ~:D
No, but once upon a time I did visit the Corn Palace in Mitchell, SD.
The only thing I saw in Rochester MN that was interesting was that water tower. There might be other cool things there, but I don’t know about them. Thankfully I was there for a conference at Mayo. The hotel beeped, which was so crazy.
I hope your companion has a nice boring visit where nothing interesting happens, and their procedure is super boring too, and the doc is yawning. Excitement is not what we want at Mayo. And we really don’t want the Mayo doctor saying “Hm. That’s interesting.”
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/corn-water-tower
This is the weirdest one I’ve personally seen.
http://www.catsupbottle.com/
Wow. And I thought the Florence Y’all water tower was unusual (I mean, besides the name, with the funny background story, it’s also painted in red and white stripes).
My first weekend in the US after marriage, Dan drove me out to see this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peachoid-gaffney.png
Yes, everyone calls it the Gafney butt….
Still waiting, but the doc spoke to me using the word “straightforward” so it seems a nice non-interesting day.
“Lots of space in this mall!”
I much prefer planning behind – it’s ever so much easier to anticipate what will have happened.
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I’m trying to be hopeful. It’s hard at times.
Until we start seeing more international travel, I will probably be out on furlough. All of the jobs that I can find around here that respond when I send in my resume are warehouse work (trying not to blow out any body parts, I’ve had some of the first warnings of issues), grocery work (where I would probably bring home Wuhan Flu to a mom that is immune-compromised), temp work (which would involve probably one of the two), or delivery services (with my own vehicle, which is a truck and gas is starting to hit $3.25/galleon and the truck is in great shape-for a twenty year old vehicle). None would give me health care, all would take me off of my current health care plan, the pay would be peanuts (even in comparison to unemployment-the only good thing is that the State of California will pretty much extend my unemployment to the end of the year), and none are a career.
I’m looking at getting a degree, but all the on-line universities are reputable and competent want me to get a FASAF loan first. Now, if I knew that there was going to be a blanket FASAF forgiveness coming down the pike, I might. Loan sharks are nicer and cheaper than FASAF. Was looking at the local universities (if they decide to go over to online schedule that you can study at your own time), but it won’t be until next semester (Winter 2021) if they do.
Oh, and this election. I think a lot of people are realizing that Trump is probably going to win. The first live debate will probably show Biden being unable to understand things, and no debate would be spun by the Trump campaign as Biden being afraid. (Don’t get cocky and make sure nobody steals the election.) And, the masks of a lot of people have come off. We’re seeing some pretty major urban flight of people that could barely afford condos in SF and San Jose to do fast escrows on houses in Sonoma County and parts further north. Friends of mine are doing…dubious things to get ammo because everywhere is out. And, my friends that are normally decent people are going bug-fuck nuts. There will be riots, no matter what happens-the question is the length.
It’s really just “keep calm and bugger on, I suppose” for the next few months. My situation isn’t bad, but I know people that it can get worse and quickly.
Amazon drivers have Amazon-branded vans. At least around here.
Post Office is hiring delivery drivers, IIRC.
IE, the package guys, not the mail guys. But heck, maybe the mail guys too.
I’m already looking at both, and putting in my papers for the USPS as a delivery/driver person. Fingers crossed.
Prayers for you and your mom.
The media is pushing the narrative that Trump is so awful Biden should not do him the favor of debating him. It’s a story, anyway.
I think this will be taken by most people in the same way as “let them eat cake” was taken by the dwellers of Paris.
I don’t think most people would be able to even lie about not voting for Trump if they did that.
Saw a Biden ad on the TV tonight. Bragging about how well he led the anti-Ebola efforts, and his great plans to “help the middle class.” Blargh.
Other variations I’ve seen: “Debates are obsolete, so we shouldn’t have one.” and “Oh, well, a lot of early voting will already be done by the time of the first debate, so we shouldn’t bother.”
Maybe there’s some folks out there buying those lines, but I can’t think there’s many of them…
One aspect that occurs to me as underlying the MSM reporting on this is the idea that, given the MSM market plan is already an obvious failure, the only refuge for its trained journalists is as Baghdad Bobs. As “trusted” media reporters they can be useful to our new Socialist Overlords – Who Hate America Terribly (hereinafter referred to as SO-WHAT.)
Free Markets economics are clearly not going to support their current career objectives, whereas they can remain viable as subsidized promoters of the SO-WHAT state.
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To: Beautiful but Evil Space Princess
From: Evil League of Evil Faceless Minion #6969
Re: Second Operation of Project TADA!
A second incursion by the Temporal Apparatus for Data Acquisition has been implemented.
Per ELE leadership requests, this foresight recovery targeted a much closer timestamp.
Again, it was a text file recovery, apparently from mid to late January 2021. Exact determination was failed by a small, if inopportune garbling.
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The Washington Post
Janu&&*RO $#, ^E21
National Leaders Call for “Interim Governance” During Election Determination
Following the close election results last November it came as no surprise that Donald Trump pounced on early reports of his victory as an inarguable indicator of his reelection.
However, it soon became apparent that the “results” could hardly be considered final. Challenges, recounts and undercounts quickly became the norm. In the face of this confusion, Trump’s insistence of his victory became louder and more boorish each day. His alleged “lead” of more than two million votes in the popular count, as well as the sixty-three vote margin in the Electoral College only served to further his demands of a final certification.
Repeated state and federal court hearings became necessary to stop this power grab and allow a fair counting of all votes.
“Even now, new packets of uncounted mail in ballots are being discovered in key so-called ‘battleground’ states such as Michigen, Ohio and Pennsylvania.” points out Georgia politician Stacey Abrams. “I know how ignoring and suppressing votes can take an election from the rightful victor.”
Many others are joining in for a call to proceed with a slightly altered change of leadership for our nation.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has presented a proposal for how to move forward. “Since it looks like we cannot verify the winner of the election before Inauguration Day, it would be unconscionable to allow Mr. Trump to continue in control of the Executive branch. Therefore, Speaker of the House Pelosi has graciously agreed to serve as an interim leader. This is a truly selfless act, as it would require her to resign not only her position, but her house seat as well. I mean, what guarantee could she have of recovering office?
“And it is only logical. Since both Trump and Pence are in a sort of limbo until we can find and count all the votes properly cast, as second in line for the succession, it naturaly falls to the Speaker.”
The editorial board of The Post can only agree with these common sense and noble sentiments.
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Again, our chief researcher is having…issues. However, she has not locked herself in her office. Instead, she sits drinking in the common area, offering the bottle to any who pass by.
It is pretty good scotch, I must note.
We will endeavor to find more information for you and the rest of the leadership.
Until then, as always, I remain your most humble and obedient servant,
Faceless Minion #6969
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I’m sure the Scotch isn’t good or strong enough …
How can you type that with a straight face … You didn’t did you? Admit it!
I have to say I threw up in my mouth just a little on that one, mostly because this is EXACTLY the kind of crap the Democrats might try to pull. And in spite of the lack of constitutionality, we have at least 4 judges on SCOTUS who would go along with it, and maybe 5 if whatever magic 8-ball Roberts is using to make up his mind comes up the wrong way.
Presented without link because the Wall Street Journal is paywalled (although if you Google for the headlin or a unique phrase in the lede paragraph you might find an accessible source.)
The Elites Fiddle While America Burns
The Great 2020 Meltdown has exposed the rottenness of our political and corporate establishments.
By Gerard Baker
The most intolerable irony of the past few miserable months has been listening to our self-appointed moral leaders lecture us on the nation’s irredeemable sinfulness from the comfort of their own secure, well-upholstered positions, while we endure daily the urban nightmare of a world created by their political allies.
As our cultural, media and corporate chiefs deliver their social and political wisdom from their redoubts in New York’s Hamptons, Palm Beach, Fla., and the greener pastures of the San Francisco Bay Area, America’s cities have been ravaged by successive predations of lockdown, disorder and violence.
Urban living is a fragile trade-off at the best of times between convenience and discomfort, excitement and peril, opportunity and expense. If you take away the convenience, excitement and opportunity, the residue isn’t an appealing one.
For cities like New York, Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland, Ore., the damage done by this indulgent summer of insanity may never be repaired. For decades these cities have been controlled by monolithic Democratic establishments—though Republican mayors proved they could govern New York. They have milked the more dynamic parts of their populations to feed their own ideological agenda while doing nothing to lift the least advantaged out of misery.
The Great Meltdown of 2020 has exposed how rotten these urban establishments have become. …
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Still at angry not quite at “let’s let Bob run things”.
Yeah. Pray I never get to “let’s let Bob run things!”
There are days it seems like a good idea. It scares me that their frequency is trending up.
same.
Likewise.
I’m not sure I’ve hit Bob levels yet, but Kull the Conqueror? “By this axe, i rule”?
Yeah. There are days.
I’m wondering if this means that I need to be saying more, or less?
They forget several things,
Such as “If you pull on that chain, gun sales skyrocket!” I cannot think that the spike in FBI gun background checks (one or more guns sold per approved check!) was on the list of anticipated results when this was all being gamed.
I don’t see them unlocking in September; the State governors and other Karenfuehrers are too addicted to the sweet sweet high of the arbitrary exercise of power. If they do unlock, it will be because they face such massive pressure to unlock as to make reimposing restrictions impossible. And my imagination is not up to imagining a plausible scenario for bringing that much pressure to bear. On the other hand, this is 2020, the year in which even someone like me can easily find himself on the wrong side of “INCONCEIVABLE!”
Morning y’all. FYI, in my neck of the woods (eastern NC) came through the storm okay, although I haven’t yet checked on the old house (that I got an offer on, PTL!). Power went out over night at work so it took a little longer to restart the point of sale equipment. A local TV station is off the air and a local radio station.
One small trailer park in northeastern NC was wiped out with one fatality and three missing and twenty hurt. That was from a tornado.
Glad things are mostly OK out your way! Tornadoes just seem to zero-in on trailer parks, alas.
Yeah; two dead; three missing. Ten trailers are gone; strewn everywhere from the pictures I’ve seen.
The three missing were a mother and two kids; they’re ok; she was at work; and the kids were elsewhere. (Praise the Lord, lest the rocks cry out.)
TV and radio both back on the air.
I know the ’62 Columbus Day storm played the most havoc on a trailer park in Eugene. Took out trees that smashed trailers, multiple ones, each. Our trailer was fine. No one hurt or killed, but couple of close calls. Let an impression on me. But then I was 5, walked home from school as it was starting to hit. We were suppose to wait for parents. But another child & I knew our at home parent couldn’t just leave younger, including infants, siblings, didn’t have vehicles, to come get us. We set out. Mom met us before we got all the way home (got most the way). A neighbor had gotten home who could watch my siblings. I remember the incident. I don’t remember the friend being with me.
Well– And why not? Someone has to fight back.
Head up. be not afraid!
I’m not afraid.
I’m exhausted. I’m tired of fighting people nominally on my side instead of those trying to eliminate freedom (see “The Republican Party” for an example). I’m tired of fighting for the freedom of people who have made clear they would rather be pampered slaves than free people (see everyone whose liberty orientation ends when you touch their particular government program).
If leftists had left D&D alone I’d probably have tapped out. Despite buying WorldCon memberships to support Sad Puppies, I really didn’t care that much about the Hugo. I have more to read from the gold and silver ages of SF/F than I might get to before I die. I just gave up on comics for similar reasons.
But they want D&D and that is the only thing I truly think I’ve done and done well my entire life. When they win on that front, because what reason do I have to believe they won’t (conventions have their “mask rule” in the form of BDSM like checklists for RPGs), why continue to fight? Why not let people who clearly want to be subjects in a USSA have what they want in the spirit of democracy?
Hell, they already have D&D because people are too afraid to play in person because of Winnie-the-Flu. The reality is every flu season from now on will be Winnie-the-Flu season. It has too many benefits for the left. They get direct exercise of power. They get to impoverish us as a side effect. They generate they fear they can use to get more power. They get to do it all while telling themselves, and us, it is because they are good and moral people taking care of us.
Yet, while I watch all that happen I’ve been expected to play by Marquess of Queensberry Rules against people who will stop at nothing to destroy me and who are protected by the state when they use violence. If I decide to respond in kind even my own side will call me a bad guy.
More and more I think large swaths of anti-leftism are just another form of virtue signalling. Any politician running on an anti-leftist platform is just virtue signalling for votes. Much of anti-leftism in the press is just to get me to buy some dish soap that pays for the ads. People like us are out here being sold out over and over by our allies for a promise of being in the Inner Party. I think that is the great innovation since Orwell. Orwell’s Inner Party ignored the plebs; the modern Inner Party uses them as a faction against the Outer Party in intra-Inner Party struggles.
They will burn it all down if they lose in November. They will burn it all down, albiet slower, if they win. If we fight them, we’ll wind up burning it all down.
In the end, they do lose. There I agree.
In the long end, we win. My faith teaches me that.
But in the middle end? More and more I think we all lose. I’m starting to see the appeal of Millenialism. It is simply desire to get it all over with.
Herb,
G-d I understand this.
I ALSO identify it. I’m a depressive you see. This is the black dog speaking.
No, they don’t control everything. They control the LOUD positions. In fact, it’s amazing watching them burn what the long crawl through the institutions got them.
It’s not going to be a rose garden. And it’s not your fault the black dog is talking. Not only do they want to produce exactly this result in us, but 2020 has been a hell of a year beyond their shenenigans for most of us.
But they lose in the short term too. They can’t hold it together long enough.
You are not alone.You’re being told you’re alone. That’s all.
I’m in several D&D groups — mostly genuflecting to the proglibs– and it’s basically constant whining from the two adn two make five folks because they can’t keep a group going more than a few meet-ups.
Meanwhile, the guys who are doing it for fun, instead of preaching at the players, regularly have several year long groups. With occasionally attempts to jump in, take over and crash it, which tend to fail. 😀
I did at least find the energy to finish the 55 word short story assignment 🙂
Congrats!
Good. i spent the weekend being outright suicidal, so TRUST me, I do get you.
The nice thing about D&D is you can go find non-crazy people to play with (even if only over the internet) and you can keep using the old, good books. 🙂
Hang in there, Herb. I hear you: I’m exhausted too. But we’ll get through this…eventually. We might all be confirmed hermits at the end of it, though.
Sadly, even internet places now talk about enforcing things like the checklist to advertise on their site for players.
That’s a battle I’m fighting here after one Atlanta D&D online forum collapsed and its successors started introducing those rules.
The biggest advantage I have is I know the source of X-cards and those checklists and can show why they are tools that work poorly as consent items. They aren’t even great for their intended purpose beyond training wheels.
Eh. You don’t have to use their sites. All you need is skype or some other video chat (NOT Zoom, thank you, don’t want China eavsedropping). Heck, you could even go really old school and do play by post via email or a little forum board (you can still set those up, though not sure where just now).
If I could summon the energy to actually DO it–and finish writing the next several adventures–I planned to do a play-via-videochat (or audio chat) Ravenloft campaign.
Alas, corona-crazy has sapped what little energy I had to start with on that front, sigh. Also, I’d really like to get my house livable and THEN look at starting up an online RPG group.
When that day comes, I’d be happy to invite you 😀 (Not all the friends who play are conservative, but politics are generally agreed to be Not The Point. And the one friend who has gone full crazy-pants TDS is probably not going to be invited at all.)
I know our group has been using Fantasy Grounds for the table top for about 15 years. Audio has varied. We started with Skype, went to something else I can’t recall, and now we’ve been on Teamspeak for the last 4-5 years.
I’m thinking Discord might work nicely, too. I use it for the occasional online game meetup with my brothers, so yeah. And they might even have video capability, but I haven’t looked (because I hate video, I look terrible on video no matter what, and it NEVER behaves itself)
Husband uses Roll20 and Discord; were free on Roll20 until someone got him a gift card, and it was such an improvement he hasn’t gone back
FG doesn’t have video. but frankly we’ve never missed it.
“FG?”
Fantasy Grounds.
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/home/
>> “Heck, you could even go really old school and do play by post via email or a little forum board (you can still set those up, though not sure where just now).”
I realize Sarah likely isn’t interested in personally setting it up or moderating it, but a gaming forum here could be lots of fun. I’d love to see what this community could come up with.
That could be fun. And I think–though I have to go see if it’s still extant–I might even have had a little bbs set up for my aforementioned Ravenloft game. I’d be willing to rename it, though I haven’t got the time/spoons to necessarily be a proper admin–y’all would have to be responsible for behaving your own selves 😀
The main issue is needing a place that would actively reject SJW infiltration. Those seem hard to come by these days.
A willingness to boot anyone who starts acting like a jerk would help 🙂 But if I can still find ’em, I’m sure there’s bbs ones out there that allow you to have folks by invite only? Or at least “answer these questions” a la MHI’s Facebook group. Sure, that doesn’t work 100%, but…Eh, I dunno. We’ll see what I can find.
Ah, darn, I don’t. But now I kinda want to see what’s still out there in terms of “set up your own bbs board.” Sadly, Yahoo did away with theirs a while back.