Hivemind – by Bill Reader

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On the post, another note:  Apparently my old friend, Bill Reader, felt we need a new battle flag. We could do worse – SAH*

Hivemind – by Bill Reader

It’s been a very interesting couple of weeks, and I daresay the interestingness is not over. With the Communist History Analogue Zone managing to recapitulate decades of disintegration in a matter of days, I wake up every morning wondering what new depth of irony they’ll manage to descend to. Balkanizing Lies Matter, meanwhile, has forged an alliance with Pro-fa, and together they are merrily wrecking black owned businesses, making life difficult for the people who make the country work, and of late, destroying monuments.

History is where all communist failures live, so the only good history is dead history, I suppose.

Amidst all this I happened to see this image on Ace.

commie flag

Now, Ace found it somewhat more disturbing than I did. It’ll take more than 30 minutes in Photoshop and a silkscreen job—done in all probability on someone else’s budget— to actually disturb me.

As far as I’m concerned, the fist in particular is such a ubiquitously recognizable Communist symbol around the world that the bigger Pro-fa prints it on bright red banners, the better. The remaining six people in the United States who haven’t yet been appraised of the current state of the world need to see that this symbol – which is associated with way, way more deaths than even other major-leaguers like the swastika— is now front and center of an American political party, and act accordingly. We’re on notice: the soviet troops didn’t land on the lawn, they came up from the basement. Our primary good fortune is the recruiting effort wasn’t able to bring in almost anyone even half-competent, and the exceptions are mostly busy dominating the rules in their own camp—See Raz de CHAZ.

Even so, it is always wise to be thoughtful about symbols. Symbols have a great deal of power, and can serve as guideposts that bring us back to common principles when things get messy. A good symbol is a shorthand for a set of ideas, and the set of ideas is a shorthand for a worldview, and the worldview is a lodestar for approaching life.

Just for example, let’s look back at that fist. That communist fist is seen in communist revolutions in multiple countries where the revolution itself nominally has some other symbol. And it rises to the top, time and time again, because all the stars and sickles are transparently meaningless. They want to be aspirational symbols, but nobody can articulate what they aspire to, except, vaguely, a working version of communism. On that front, you may as well aspire to make dehydrated water. Now the fist, that’s a good symbol for communism—it explains both its predilections and its fate.

One look at the communist-fist tells you you’ve got a movement that’s interested in being a danger to everyone around it right now, yet has no real future.  When your motivating principle is the eternal, unbounded, pointless fight— when the “struggle” is so front-and-center in your mind that it supersedes whatever ideal it was in the service of — then the only possible destination is “Revolution from above”, endless purges and purity tests and infighting. And lo, does it not deliver? You asked for the fight, comrade, and the fight you shall get—first from the people trying to save you from your own stupid wishes, then from the people who used you as a means to grant them.

The rattlesnake, on the other hand, elegantly encapsulates the American temperament. Americans are slow to anger. We give plenty of warning. But heaven help you when you push us one step too far, because just about nothing else can. I’m sure Pro-fa thinks its variant is rather clever—they’re the sort to be easily self-impressed— but I think they’ve accidentally said a bit more than they meant.

On my first sight of the banner, in fact, I thought for a moment that it was from a counter-protest. Why? Well, the snake is wrapped around the fist. Sure, on closer inspection, the fist has the snake by the head, but isn’t that itself rather ironically reflective of American society today? Here is this cabal of far Left lunatics, holding onto the top of all American institutions, and all the while, the rest of America is wrapping around them from all sides, encircling and surrounding them. Trump didn’t have almost a million people clamoring to go to a rally in Tulsa because of an abiding desire in the populace for fresh country air. We may be in your grip, Pro-fa, but we’re a long, long way from dead. And we’ve got you surrounded, on every side, however much you try to strangle us out of existence. It’s true, rattlers aren’t constrictor snakes— but then again, you never know what new tricks we might learn in a corner, tovarish.

Even so, I think it’s worth considering a little update, an adjunct symbol, if you will, a supplemental representation of the American psyche. Conservatives are used to being reviled, mocked, demonized and stigmatized by the same “inclusive” individuals who insist that no such thing ought to happen to anyone. Ironically, though, we’re also what keeps things running. Years of being underdogs in the culture war, a war the left has waged against the culture, mind you, that the country itself is founded on, can change you. We’re no less embodied by the rattlesnake than we were—but maybe we’re something else, too.

Consider an animal that is omnipresent. It is virtually everywhere that people are. Its work is vital, it has helped make society what it is since society was a concept, and it works constantly. It saves for the future. It is fundamental in producing things used by everybody, soy-boy and steak-eater alike. Yet despite its absolutely indispensable work it is widely disliked. People may feel menaced, indeed, by even the sight of one. Thus, for safety, these animals cluster together in large numbers, make common cause against an unfeeling world. And you can easily interrupt its work or kill it if you decide to, but you’ll regret it. It won’t go down without a fight, and it may even kill you. It is small, it is humble, but you mess with it at your peril.

It is, in short, well-organized, conscientious, hard-working, unfairly stigmatized, non-aggressive but fully committed to effective self-defense without reference to the status or power of the aggressor, and its work is crucial to the survival of even those that attack it. Oh, and despite predictions that it would die off entirely in recent years, it seems to have found a way to survive.

It is, of course, a bee. Or a conservative, of course.

And the Left would do well to take note—you seem to think if you drown out the buzzing, you aren’t going to get stung. But the buzzing is a warning. It’s the rattle in the tail of the snake. It’s the alarm you stubbornly insist that, if silenced, will make the danger it is alerting you to vanish. It is asking nicely, and if you don’t believe that, just you wait. If you really want not to get stung, you’re free to back away. That’s the play you ought to make. You’ve got a lot of pride on the line, but we’ve seen what you did to Minneapolis, and your pride doesn’t mean much to us, given that we can see where it leads you. We don’t give a damn who you are, and nor do our stingers.  But if you’re going to insist on sticking your hand into our home, taking the spoils of our work, breaking what we’ve worked so hard to build, well–

You might not be too sharp—but you’ll find that we are.

ourlivesforourhome

(H/T to a friend who asks to remain anonymous for the artwork above)

298 thoughts on “Hivemind – by Bill Reader

  1. “We will tread,” they say.
    Well, then. We will sting. A LOT.
    So bring it already.

    1. This. I have a small Gadsden banner from a Tea Party protest hanging over my work station even now.
      Bring it, Antifadiots. Enough with the threats. Let’s see what you are really made of, besides hot air and commie propaganda.

  2. >> “My hotmail seems to have lost its marbles, or no longer know how to do searches or something.”

    Is this a sporadic thing, or has this been going on for months? I sent one back in February that you apparently never got, so if you’ve been having trouble all this time you might be better off getting a new e-mail account.

      1. I’ve noticed spots of internet breakage over the past couple weeks… presumably some backbone lost a substation in the riots, and now is routing via Timbuktu or Singapore..

        1. T-Mobile had issues earlier this week. Fortunately, they should be cured as their CEO took the move of taking their ads off Tucker Carlson. Because virtue broadcasting (we’re way beyond signalling) is the key to operational excellence or something.

          Can’t really move as I’ve got phones in two states right now. Once we’re just here I’ll find a new provider.

          1. It seems ironic that a company in the communication business wants to advertise its willingness to limit communication.

            1. Apparently if your communications are not righteous they break down network efficiency, so censoring them actually improves communication.

          2. Weird phone problems, Kissimmee had all their phones go down last week, wired and wireless.

      2. Email was never a guaranteed protocol; moving messages from host to host “depended on the kindness of strangers” in the old sense of the phrase. Then the spammers took it over, and less-than-competent admins started blocking whole sections of the internet in clumsy attempts to stop the tide, and then associations formed promoting protocols and tools that were supposed to stop spam… mostly by blocking anyone not in their clique. And ’round and ’round the mulberry bush goes the weasel…

        Meanwhile, I’ve now encountered two banks that insist on making an email address the sole legal contact point for an account holder, and they want to send plaintext financial information unencrypted across random open servers that have no contractual connection between either of us…

        I’ve not yet been able to figure whether it’s malice or cluelessness.

        1. now encountered two banks that insist on making an email address the sole legal contact point for an account holder, and they want to send plaintext financial information unencrypted across random open servers that have no contractual connection between either of us…

          I’ve not yet been able to figure whether it’s malice or cluelessness.


          Banks/Financial Accounts, we do business with, have an option to use email, snail mail, text, or all, for communication. Our snail mail is just as dangerous as the other two. OTOH the text and email, do not send the actual information, usually. They provide notification that there is a notice, and a link to login. I never, ever, use the actual link. Del the email. Open another browser instance, and type in the web site needed. Exception to the “no information” in the email are CC statement notification. Both cards we use currently, send the statement balance and minimum payment due summary, but not the actual statement.

          Also, we (okay I) have all our stuff setup as double authentication; short of walking in with account id and picture id. Have mom’s setup that way too. PIA, the odds of password, email, and phone, being compromised are a lot slimmer.

    1. Sarah, I’ve just taken another shot at e-mailing you that guest post. The e-mail subject is “Guest post,, attempt 2” (yes, the double comma typo is in the subject). Let me know if you see it.

  3. I’ve got to admit I found myself amused at the “No Step On Snek” meme.

  4. Rattlesnakes are social animals. If you see one, there are others around watching from cover. And they den together in packs, sometimes in the hundreds. And if sufficiently provoked while close together, they will attack in groups.

    I’m fine with their new flag. I don’t think they actually understand the symbology they are using.

    1. Understanding is not a requirement for Antifa membership. They only value obedience and ideological purity. More likely understanding is considered a flaw. Adam Smith said that “There is a great deal of ruin in a nation…” I am hoping we don’t plumb the depths of that well. Another worry is how this may play out internationally. The Chinese Government has a keen interest in making us fail. Several other governments as well but China i think is the most likely to act. If the US starts to rebound they could react in a range of dumping the US debt to war in the South China Sea, to the ultimate of secreting an EMP device to a third party to do severe damage to infrastructure. That last is unlikely as pretty much all radioactive materials are traceable to their source, but it depends on how desperate they are. Never forget; there are about 22 million men there who have no prospects for marriage or a family. If they don’t figure out a way to fix that those men will turn on them.

      1. Are you a naif? This is at least in part founded by the Chinese.
        They don’t understand US. They think they can make these riots go organic.
        They can’t. There aren’t that many rich brats in the US.

        1. But Sarah, all it needs is the right spark for the masses to rise up and throw out their capitalist oppressors! Outside of Wall Street, the whole country is poised to strike back against tyranny!

        2. Naif? Well um, Gee I don’t think so. I didn’t mean to imply that the Antifa yo yo’s were going to be successful in a revolution. Honestly It looks like the Rev. is already petering out in a lot of places. I assume they have to go home so Mom can do their laundry. And sure China is probably involved in bankrolling and providing agent provocateurs for the festivities. Waiting for July when the Bearnadoes come for the midwest or intermountain. (I’m safe here: Ain’t no bears no way no how. If one is spotted it’s potted.) My concern is that China WILL misunderstand and think this is their big and only chance to supersede the US as the world’s top power. They might of kind of felt they had already had us beat until Trump won the election. The question is what happens if there is a real rhubarb started inshore near the Chinese mainland, of if they decide now is the time to sail the strait of Formosa. when you do a cost comparison of a carrier battle group versus an anti-ship missile it ain’t pretty. Worse, in my opinion is that if shooting should start a good portion of the country and all of corporate America would be demanding preemptive surrender before the smoke cleared from the first shots fired. Wars are lost or won on willpower. If Aunt Jemima gets voted off the island because of stupid lies about racism what will happen when the first day’s casualty lists are above ten thousand sailors?

          1. OH, sure. We’re giving the rest of the world a very odd idea of what’s going on. Or rather our media is. I keep expecting my mom to ask me if we need to go “home” (to her house) from the ruin and violence.
            My military friends say we’re still in no danger.

          2. yeah, i’ve heard that before, and i’ll point out the same thing i have seen on it… ASMs from their dinky destroyers are great until you realize we can fire Harpoons from an F-18 that is 400 miles from the carrier….

          3. Even if a rhubarb starts up, the USN isn’t going to have carriers in the Taiwan Straights. Aircraft carriers are standoff weapons, they’re going to do their work from CENTPAC, not WESTPAC. What’s going to be in the Taiwan Straights, and the South China Sea? Los Angeles and Seawolf, showing the ChiComs how the US sub fleet strangled Japan in WWII.

            Carriers in the open ocean are hard to find, even with satellite surveillance; and carriers are hard to kill. USS America, CV-66, was the subject of a live fire weapons test for four weeks, in the end scuttling charges had to be used to turn her into the worlds largest artificial reef. Four weeks of live fire with no active damage control parties aboard and she stayed afloat. The last US fleet carrier lost to enemy action was USS Hornet CV-8 on 27 October 1942, even the horrific damage sustained by Franklin CV-13 late in the war, and right off the Japanese home islands, wasn’t enough to put her under. (I specified fleet carriers, because a CVE’s designation of “Combustible, Vulnerable and Expendable” wasn’t entirely in jest, but we don’t really have anything equivalent to CVEs anymore. The modern LHAs might be considered equivalent of WWII era light carriers, but LHA-6 America comes in a about 45,000 tons, versus the 32,000 tons of Hornet or the 36,000 tons of Franklin.) Hitting a supercarrier with a hypersonic missile is going to be a mission kill at best, not a lost hull. And remember data from the live fire test on CV-66 was used in the design of the Fords. You could nuke it, but a wise Soviet once pointed out that nukes are political weapons, not military ones.

            1. We also lost one of our CVLs – the Princeton, iirc – which blew up in a catastrophic explosion that left blood coating the deck of the nearby Memphis.

              Fleet carriers turned out to be *extremely* hard to kill during World War 2. EVERY SINGLE VETERAN FLEET CARRIER lost in the Pacific during World War 2 was ultimately sunk by torpedoes. Yes, in many cases (at Midway, for instance), the ships were effectively destroyed by dive bombers, which wrecked the hull and set fire to the ship. But the hulls didn’t actually sink from those bombs. What happened in those instances was that the ships were abandoned by their crews, and then nearby destroyers scuttled them using torpedoes to avoid the risk of the enemy capturing the hull and taking it home. All but one of the rest were sunk by submarines. The last one – Zuikaku – was sunk by enemy torpedo bombers.

              Note that I’m not classifying HMS Hermes as a fleet carrier.

              The Japanese did lose two fleet carriers with inexperienced crews to dive bombers. Hiyo – the name ship of her class – was sunk by dive bombers during the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The other was Amagi – an Unryu-class carrier. She was completed late enough in the war that her complement of aircraft was never loaded, and she never left port. Despite Japanese attempts to camouflage her, the American bombers that were constantly prowling the Japanese shore line at the end of the war spotted her and finished her off over the course of a couple of days. Of course, since she was in Kure Harbor at the time, she didn’t sink that far. She was refloated after the war and handed over to the wreckers for disposal.

              It’s a shame, imo. Off the top of my head, the only IJN warship that survived the war and wasn’t scrapped (or nuked as part of Crossroads) was Yukikaze, which was turned over to the Nationalist Chinese (and ended its career as part of the RoC Navy; one of its anchors was returned to Japan after she was finally scrapped). The only other “Japanese” ship that I’m aware of that survived the war’s aftermath is the cruiser Yat Sen, which started as a Chinese cruiser, was sunk by the Japanese who then refloated her, and served the rest of the war with the IJN, who returned her to the Nationalists after the war (Yat Sen’s two fellow Chinese cruisers – Ning Hai and Ping Hai – were also refloated, but then sunk by the Americans while under IJN service). I’ve visited the USS Hornet in Alameda, California. It’d be nice if more of the World War 2 ships were still around, particularly the big Japanese ones.

              1. My mistake – it was Burmingham that was covered in blood when Princeton blew up, not Memphis.

      2. The dumping US debt, patterned on Ike’s threat during the Suez crisis, is a no starter for China. As long as the dollar is the world’s reserve currency nations need to hold it as reserves. Sarah had an excellent guest post a while back that as another bankster I can endorse.

        Right now China’s US debt is a variant on the old saying, “If you owe the bank a million dollars, you have a problem; if you owe the bank a billion dollars, the bank has a problem.”

      3. They’ve already started, and frankly, China is doing a multi-front financial war-threat thing, quite secure in it’s belief that it already holds most of the world hostage because of manufacturing. It’s threatening Australia’s various exports (meat, grain, coal, milk), one of the state premiers has signed on to the Belt and Road Initiative (which is really China taking over trade routes and poorer nations via loans to ‘improve infrastructure’ and taking over when the debts inevitably are difficult to impossible to repay – Papua New Guinea as an example of this) and is currently doing so with Cambodia and Vietnam; it’s expanded even further in the disputed Philippine Sea reefs and islands (Duterte correctly says that the Philippines does not have the military might nor the weaponry to fight any kind of war – thanks, anti-war lefties!) And of course, it’s actions in Africa are largely unknown to the general populace of the West thanks to it being mostly unreported in the media.

        1. And let’s not forget that they’re flexing their muscles on their border with India in the Himalayas. I’ve read about a couple skirmishes there in the last several weeks, both of which were noted for greater than usual violence.

          1. Headline & Lede from the 22 June Wall Street Journal:

            After China Border Fight, India Likely Weighs Closer U.S. Military Ties
            Faced with an increasingly assertive and well-armed China, Indian policy makers are likely considering whether to further expand military cooperation with the U.S. and American allies.

            Additional material behind paywall, although goggling for headline or portion of lede might turn up a free version …

      4. Surface burst EMP is very local. Thus, mostly futile unless someone wants to pick a losing fight.

        A crippling EMP attack requires a multi-megaton warhead at very high exo-atmospheric altitude, and likely at least four weapons to get most of the continental 48. This is a missile/warhead combination only achievable by a handful of nations.

        All of whom have known addresses. None of whom can knock out our retaliatory systems. We get hurt. They get extinct.

        So “EMP catastrophe” is unlikely.

        1. Surface burst, no. High altitude, yes.

          “Starfish Prime” was almost exactly 58 years ago, when they shot a 1.4 megatonner 240 miles up. 900 miles away, the EMP was stout enough to knock out street lights in Hawaii, and they never bothered to count how many radios and televisions it toasted.

          You remember Telstar, the first commercial communications satellite? First satellite telephone call between the US and Europe, first satellite TV relay, first satellite to connect two computers together? Yeah, good way to create an artificial radiation belt and toast everything orbiting in it. Oops.

          1. The number of countries that can loft such a weapon are few, and all have known addresses.

            Thirty minutes or less or your next warheads are free.

            Ours will do much, much more than zap TVs. No one is that dumb.

      5. Understanding is not a requirement an impediment for Antifa membership.

        Fixed that for you. Understanding is an intellectual process, and intellectual processes are inimical to cult membership.

      1. Or they may just be trying to dispose of some surplus males. I feel dirty waiting this, but wouldn’t it be easier to clean out the Uighur camps, kill the men and award the women to deserving Party members? Their children would be Chinese. Problem solved.

        1. First of all, there aren’t that many Uighurs. Uighurs are a minorrrrrity. A very tiny minority. If you married off every Uighur man, woman, bicycle, and camel, you’d only take care of a very small province of China.

          1. Second, they’re already doing that. It’s a reward for Party apparatchik bullies — they send them to “stay with” a Uighur family whose fathers, grandfathers, teenage sons, etc. have been taken away, and they rape the women a lot while the little kiddies have to watch. (Uighur houses not being much for individual rooms.)

            Uighur women in concentration/reeducation camps also get raped a lot.

            And since the pattern is exactly the same as with concentration camps for dissidents, Christians, Buddhists, Chinese pagans, Confucians, and Tibetan Buddhists, you can assume that prison guards and apparatchiks have got a whole lot o’ rapin’ goin’ on.

      2. Yes. The problem with making ominous,dire, and believable threats, is that the other folks get to say “ok. I -believe- them.”

        That “will tread” flag might be seen as such.

        This often has undesirable consequences for the folks making threats.

    2. Oh, I’m SURE they don’t understand the symbology they’re using. They don’t understand much of anything.

      This is like the school weakling challenging the team quarterback to a first fight. It only works out well in fiction.

    3. They’re also good mothers. There’s a great book on rattlesnakes by Manny Rubio that shows species from all over the Americas, including a few mutant colors – one was a ruby-red patterned snake, awesome.

      But whoever designed that flag has no real experience with snake-handling. That snake can still bite….

  5. One more thing on those 22 million guys: Traditionally there always was an imbalance in the sexes in earlier cultures; Powerful men took multiple women and the lesser men got zip. To rectify that imbalance the Boss sent those guys over to the neighbor’s lands to kill all the men, take the women and anything of value then cart it all back home. The Boss skimmed off his share, and the men were satiated. Few records exist of what the women thought about the process. So, China is picking a fight with a weaker neighbor right about now… I wonder how that could work out? I am sure that nothing like this described could EVER happen in today’s world since we are all SO, SO civilized.

    1. Problem India has the Bomb. They would be much better off going against someone who didn’t.

      1. More likely, China is squabbling with India to remind people that they do have power, and to review the PLA’s tactics and capabilities. I don’t expect the current border spat to escalate. The PLA hasn’t fought a real war since the 70s (with Vietnam). Their army needs to review tactics and equipment against an opponent that doesn’t follow a script.

        It’s the subsequent border spat with a weaker neighbor that I’d worry about.

        1. Apparently the battles in this new war are being fought with rocks and sticks. Neither side wants shooting to start as it could get bad and I guess the soldiers are getting fed up.

          1. War, with sticks and stones? That apocryphal Einstein quote seems eerie, now.

        2. China’s men tend to be raised as little emperors, and since they’re also often ONLY CHILDREN… I don’t think of them as particularly brave sorts. They’re mostly untested, except for being bullies. There have been deaths (though I only hear reports of roughly 20 dead on the Indian side, and not hearing about any on China, because China is unlikely to report those unless it’s advantageous for them), but that’s something that’s being mostly ignored for the moment because BLACK LIVES MATTER OVER EVERYONE ELSE’S, and OH NOOOO CCPLAGUE IS RAMPAGING AGAIN BECAUSE CONSERVATIVES AND ORANGEMANBAD.

          1. They’re making a big deal about how Florida’s set to become the Next Big Hotspot in the ChiCom Flu. That’s of concern to me because next month is Tampa Bay Comic Con, which will be our first convention of the year, thanks to the cancellations of our April, May and June cons.

            I’m hoping the governor will have the sense to say no, this time we are not shutting down the state, that people at high-risk should isolate themselves, but otherwise people should just make sure to take their Vitamin C and D3, wash their hands regularly, and otherwise practice good sanitation habits, and the convention will be happening. Even then, it’s possible we’ll have lackluster crowds and lousy sales because people are scared to go, and scared to spend money.

            1. When I was on the craft show/Ren Faire circuit, our sales reliably went down by 25-30 percent every presidential election year. I am hoping to get back into crafting, but at this rate I’m not applying for anything until 2021.

            2. What’s likely to happen is the venue and or the concom will take a look at the herd of legal vultures circling overhead and cancel it. What the governor does will only matter to the extent that it gives cover from that.

        3. Does anybody recall the status of China’s relations with Pakistan? They might merely be doing a friend a favor, distracting India from the neighbor who can’t stand them.

        4. Another thought is that China’s taking a page out of the Russian playbook of the Great Game. Not that China needs a warm water port, per se; but if things go hot, adding some Indian Ocean coastline to the equation would make things harder on the USN attempting a blockade.

          Because as it stands now, there are some pretty obvious choke points between China and the rest of the World where all their trade, both exported goods and imported energy, has to go through. And China’s never had the need for anti-submarine warfare doctrine.

          Speaking of Russia, I wonder how often Putin thinks about that long frontier between The People’s Republic and the Russian Federation, and how sparsely populated it is on his side.

          1. China can’t use that chunk of territory to reach the ocean. Even assuming that China was ambitious enough to grab all of the Indian territory in the area, Bangladesh and Myanmar are both sitting on the route to the ocean shore. China would need to grab a chunk of India proper, which would be overly ambitious, given the ridiculously large number of people that China would be forced to assimilate as a result of such a stunt. It would require a pretty big chunk of India, and India’s got a pretty high population density. It would also be a big enough chunk of India to get India seriously considering whether to use its nukes.

            Assuming, of course, that China could pull it off in the first place.

            As for the shared border between China and Russia…

            There are reasons why the Russians haven’t developed the mineral deposits in Eastern Siberia. And they’re very expensive and time consuming reasons. China would be just as much subject to those reasons as Russia is. Also, Russia has even more nukes than India does. And yes, the Russians would likely go nuclear if someone attempted to seize Siberia from them.

    2. Is India that much weaker? Apart from having nukes, they have a pretty good conventional army, with an honest-to-goodness military tradition going back a couple of centuries, and recent (more recent than the Chiniese, anyway) combat experience.

      1. Indian has an even more severe corruption problem than China does, especially with military procurement. Take a look at Austin Bay’s Strategy Page for more detailed information. I’d say China’s military is more powerful than India’s at this time. The Indians are playing catch-up, but their corruption problem is making it hard.

        The last time they fought over that border in 1962, China kicked India’s ass very hard.

        1. As a Commonwealth country, India made the FAL rifle under license. In the late 1990s they decided to change to a Kalashnikov pattern rifle, and Ishapore’s armorers came up with the INSAS, a 5.56 NATO caliber variant of the AK-47 with a number of improvements and advanced features.

          Alas, the actual manufacture of the rifle ran into almost every possible problem – generals with financial stakes in the factories, several types of fraud, lack of quality control, some things that looked a lot like official sabotage… multiple military and civil commissions were appointed to identify and fix the problems, but most of those turned out to have their sticky fingers in it somewhere, too.

          Now, Mikhail Timofeyovich designed the Model 47 to be easy to build; the pieces were to be made by a Soviet version of “cottage industry” like the British did in WWII, while the big arsenals worked on heavy weapons. Didn’t work out that way, but countries like Nigeria, North Korea, and Sudan managed to build their own versions more or less independently. Yet India, a nuclear power with orbital capability, became the only known country to fail to be able to make an AK-47. Not due to lack of engineering expertise, but because the whole project sank under the weight of corruption. So now they’re buying a version known as the AK-203 from Russia. The Russian ones don’t have all the bells and whistles of the Indian ones, but they actually work, which is sort of important with military weapons.

          So when you’re reading a propga^H^H^H^Hpress release about some new Indian jet fighter, submarine, missile, or other “weapons system”, remember it’s being made by the same kind of organization that fumbled the INSAS.

          1. Slightly have to disagree there. the original AKs used milled receivers. The later stamped receiver version was more designed for cottage industry.

            1. The AK was designed with a sheet metal receiver using a Soviet alloy similar to SAE 4130. But the arsenals couldn’t actually get enough to make production; I’m not sure if there was a shortage of rolling mill capacity or if some othe rindustry had priority over the finished product.

              The arsenal was able to get bar stock, so they repurposed ancient equipment that had been used to make Mosins and other firearms and whittled the receivers out of bar stock, which is why ramping up production had so many delays. And whittling away 90% of a steel bar was ridiculously wasteful, but that’s Socialist manufacturing for you…

              Later the sheet metal supply was fixed and they converted to sheet metal receivers. The sheet metal guns were designated AKM, but that was dropped and they went back to simply “AK”.

              ———-

              Academics like Don Norman and “The Design of Everyday Things” makes me grit my teeth. Up there in his ivory tower, he makes his pronouncements of the way he thinks things ought to be, without understanding that there are often damned good reasons the way things are the way they are. Usually related to regulations, money, or both. It’s like the thread about “why are there still boiler operators instead of automatic controls?” a while back. It’s not an *engineering* problem…

                1. What would you say if you found out that a human constantly watching a boiler could detect and prevent the issues that cause an explosion, but no sensors as of yet could, and even if you could develop the sensors, reliability and processing would be issues?

                2. Possibly. But the reasons I’ve seen in Real Life(tm) are “state law requires it” and “the insurance carrier requres it.” When I worked night shift at one place, my employer offered to send me to the course and pay for my license, since the operator merely had to be “on site” instead of “babysitting the boiler.”

                  Yeah, the automatic controls were running the show. But like an Airbus, the operator was there so there was someone to take the blame if something went wrong.

                3. One reason ASME was formed was to find out why boilers exploded, and put a stop it. ASME publishes a boiler code, which is probably an influence on state codes, and maybe insurance requirements. I know that there are engineers involved in organizations that try to get states to adjust their laws into compliance with the latest version of whatever code. Now, ASME could be paid off, and could be conservative enough that they maintain a requirement even after the need passes.

                  I’m partly going off my memory of someone here talking about this issue. They said that the cause of the explosion is the boiler running dry, then having more water thrown in. This was years ago, so maybe the controls are better now. They also said that nothing else prevented that like someone around all the time, paying attention. Hmm. Actually, I think what they said was that in all the recent explosion investigations, one of the issues was no operator on site.

                  It is possible that having a person on site on the time is a brute force solution that tends to have the side effect of preventing explosions. If you are paying some to be there, to be informed, and to be aware of the boiler, they are going to detect when the controls are going bad, and get them fixed, or at least keep the thing from exploding and killing them.

  6. Hey Sarah, I notice you started to do your night DJ routine over at Instapundit this morning and stopped after only two entries. Something happen?

      1. I figured it was going to be you mis-scheduled them and they were going to show up either all at once, or at the PM times instead of AM
        don’t look at me like that

          1. starting late Saturday, I yanked a storm window off and stripped paint from it, the window and frame, respackled, bondo in a rot hole, then primed, repainted the wood frame, and cleaned the aluminum storm frame and window parts, as well as all the glass and reinstalled the storm window (63″ x 28″)
            Finished last night
            The ladder is what kills me. just standing on it for hours gives me wet noodle legs, until I sit for a few minutes then they become dried pasta noodle legs.
            7 more to do.
            And a roof for the garage is needed.
            and a shed
            and bike work
            I need to get back on 4-10s so I can get stuff done again.

        1. No. I do schedule them. I just gave out at about 11 pm, before I could schedule anymore.
          When I realized I couldn’t SEE the screen clearly, I headed for bed.

  7. The enthusiasm for Trump and against Anti-Fa in Tulsa may well not be diagnostic for the United States as a whole.

    The Tulsa Race Riots.

    I cannot promise you that they are still living memory. But the memory of them being living memory is living memory.

    Oklahomans in their seventies, if they’ve known people from Tulsa, or have family in Tulsa, have known people who remember the riots.

    Black Tulsans, for sure and for certain, have not forgotten the riots. There are many blacks in Tulsa.

    They definitely know how long the aftereffects of the burned neighborhoods lasted.

    Per wiki, biggest cities in Oklahoma are OKC (which also has blacks), Tulsa, and at a distant third and fourth Norman and Broken Arrow. And Broken Arrow is in the Tulsa area.

    It probably wasn’t an accident that Tulsa didn’t follow the lead of Ferguson and Baltimore, after the police lady righteously shot that guy. Tulsa blacks may well be freaking out about what Anti-Fa and BLM have gotten up to.

    Norman or Stillwater, the kids in the African-American studies programs, or white faculty and staff, may well think Anti-Fa and BLM are the bee’s knees. Maybe also the private Universities in Tulsa; at least one of which has gone hard core SJW “more inclusive of diversity”, I think maybe because of white funding sources. But the regular population of Tulsa, the part which is old enough to know the real world, and doesn’t have their head firmly stuck inside their own academic world, is probably one of the better ones for Trump to be holding a rally for right now.

    So, I very much need to make sure to track down the transcript. And figure out how to watch it, if I can, and it hasn’t showed yet.

      1. Tulsa only has 400,000, and 1.2 million in the combined statistical area. Some of the enthusiasm is from other parts of Oklahoma, and I’m sure some of the surrounding states.

        They have spaces for 60-70k, even with trying to vet everyone so BLM doesn’t get in.

        BLM is busing people in.

        I think there is a chance that black enthusiasm in Tulsa will be freakishly high for Trump.

        And thinking it over, I fear this may be gauche, but I’m going to have to ask for prayer for Tulsa, and for Tulsa’s black community. I hope the Tulsa PD would not choose to be complicit, but I fear what the out of state people may manage to do. Per wiki, the mayor is Bynum, a Republican.

        1. “Only” 400,000 would make Tulsa larger than 26 sovereign nations with UN representation.

      2. Heck, even in the Glorious Bear Flag Peoples Republic waaay back on March 3rd (ish, as they count mail-in ballots for along time) DJT outpolled Comrade Bernie, who won the one-party-state-comrade D side vote – Bern got just over 2m (25% of all votes recorded) and DJT ended up with well over 2.2m (27%).

        Pervy Uncle Joe only got 1.6m (19%).

        Note total votes by party were predictably lopsided with 5.7m on the D side where arguably there was still an actual race, vs. only 2.5m on the R side where DJT was effectively unopposed, so I expect a lot more R turnout for the general this year, especially with the smell of burned and looted (“I TOLD you, loot THEN burn!”) retail stores still in the metaphorical air.

    1. Tulsa is solidly Repblican. When dems gerrymandered state at its founding that district was the only one allotted to repubs. One other up for grabs the other four solidly dem.

    2. After finding out today Obama Executive Orders are holy writ that can’t be changed, does it matter if we re-elect Trump?

        1. I’m not trusting the other side.

          In fact, that’s the whole problem. We still think playing by the rules: winning elections, appointing judges, etc. work.

          They only work when both sides play by the rules. The Dems don’t anymore. They rely on us continuing to so that when they win, they change the rules and we play by the new ones and when they lose they just ignore the rules.

          If the Civil RIghts Act of 1964 meant gays and transgender when it said sex why all the attempts to amend it? It didn’t, but since they couldn’t amend it they just changed the rules.

          The ability to stay and work was against the law, but once Obama says “so what, I’m issuing residency work cards” then you’ve created a expectation, that the law will never be enforce, that a successor can’t change.

          This ruling is, as far as I can tell, the final nail in elections, at least elections of non-Democrats matter, unless Trump goes full Andrew Jackson and deports everyone with a DACA card by Sunday.

          1. Look, we’re going to have our legs in a sack as long as anyone with expertise: Judges/diplomats, etc were educated in the leftist sewer of academia. But trust me, brother, it could be worse. MUCH worse.You don’t want to go there.

          2. Hurt them with their own rules.

            a) It would probably be counter productive to give BLM propaganda fodder this way, but the firings of police officers after causing black deaths are plausibly discrimination against the sexual preference of killing blacks.
            b) Those vaunted oppressive instrumentalities of safetyism? In violation of the ERA now. If a man enjoyed the sex act with a woman at a university, the fact that it offends the sensibilities of the bureaucratic establishment could be understood as making the star chamber discrimination on the basis of preference. HR firing a person for raping subordinates may be illegal now.

            If all is really lost, if you personally have nothing left to lose, then there is something you could do to inflame things further.

            Your own sexual preferences are rare enough that you would have standing to ask questions about what the changes in various processes will be.

            I personally think that asking one’s own HR to figure something bizarre out is a little bit of a dick move for an employee.

            Asking your local US Attorney’s office, and the DoJ Civil Rights division, to give you an answer in writing might be a more efficient way to set the cat amongst the pigeons.

            Anyway, I’m not encouraging you in this course of action. I feel it is too costly for me to do, and suspect it is also for you.

            I’m mainly trying to argue that you do not really feel you have nothing left to lose. I suspect you are very used to toggling over to the doomer emotional position. While I now understand much better why than I did a few days ago, I’m still not thinking I’m making a mistake in refusing to go doomer myself.

            Maybe the Sino-Qatari fifth column and useful idiots have us completely stopped. But maybe we still have a chance for revenge. Beyond the religious imperative, hope is a necessary tool for any plan to obtain revenge, and build the US a proper samadh.

            Maybe the US lives, and we do not need to obtain that revenge.

            Any calculation of our odds wrt human societies depend on necessarily incomplete models that at times miss very important details. Even our calculations with the best humanly possible theory. God alone knows. The left is defined by faith in very simple models of human groups, and refuses to imagine that they are flawed because of the unknowable. (The lies a leftist tells to get inside your head and defeat you will always err on the side of simplicity.) To be Christians, we deny faith in the false gods. To deny faith in the false gods of Leftism, we must not let ourselves accept any simple model of humans as ensuring 100% outcomes.

            1. Correct on nothing left to lose. I still have the cats, hence friends long ago promulgating the 2 Cat Rule.

                  1. They’ve been caught before. Nothing has changed. It’s an institutional problem, and given Google’s size, probably not fixable. Like Twitter and Amazon, they’ll keep on blaming things on “a disgruntled employee”, “an accident”, or “we don’t know how that happened, so sorry.”

                    1. I think it is time to start charging them, and their conspirators, such as NBC and the UK Labour Party activist connected group, with criminal conspiracy under the antitrust and civil rights laws, and to throw in sum RICO counts. Make them justify their actions in a criminal defense.

                    1. Yeah… but how many doofi would hit the Federalist *and* click on an annoying GoogleAd?

                      For that matter, how many people go online without multiple layers of ad blocking?

                      There have been several web sites that have dumped Google’s adware for various reasons; most of them, even fairly high-traffic sites, noted that their income from whoring out their users seldom exceeded $100/mo.

                    2. And no DOJ is looking at investigations and suggesting new regulations. That is not something Google et al wanted or wants to deal with.

              1. Worse, they break their own rules more than we do– which is why that ‘believe all women’ thing was such a loser for them.

                Did a lot of damage, yes– but more to them than us.

                1. Yeah, when you can ask “why doesn’t this prevent firing pedophiles who are teachers”, you can reach the ordinary sorts, and that undermines the trust in the law that is the whole point of weaponizing the supreme court in service of leftist politics.

                  1. Because you have to buy off the teachers union before taking ANY action against the gym coach molesting the students.

                    1. Which is why it is interesting that the Seattle Police Union has been expelled from the King County Labor Council — though nothing more, since we get large doses of the SJW gobbledygook.

        2. If it’s 6-3 or 7-2 then Roberts becomes irrelevant.

          With the current 4-Roberts-4 court, he gets to decide, and whatever photos they have on him are muito valioso.

              1. This and he didn’t want people to accuse him of deporting “a bunch of children”. Like with Obamacare, he completely ignored the law to reach the result he wanted. It is crucial to note that Obama did not follow the ADA when it created DACA through executive diktat. Roberts has now held that a President can institute new programs without following the ADA, but a subsequent President cannot revoke the illegally created program (as it was created without following the ADA) without following the ADA.
                The Court in two decisions this week has decided that Congress and the President are utterly irrelevant and that the Supreme Court rules the United States, with the President and Congress exercising their powers only by the grace of the Court.
                Roberts has shivved the Constitution on multiple occasions and he he isn’t even bothering to sneak up so he can put the knife in the back anymore, he is now doing a full frontal assault.

                1. Representative Jordan had a great comment on this travesty of a decision: “By ruling that President Trump cannot terminate DACA in the same manner that President Obama used to start it, the Court’s decision creates two standards of executive power: one for President Obama and another for President Trump”

                2. Justice Thomas was also on the money:

                  “Under the auspices of today’s decision, administrations can bind their successors by unlawfully adopting significant legal changes through Executive Branch agency memoranda. Even if the agency lacked authority to effectuate the changes, the changes cannot be undone by the same agency in a successor administration unless the successor provides sufficient policy justifications to the satisfaction of this Court.

                  In other words, the majority erroneously holds that the agency is not only permitted, but required, to continue administering unlawful programs that it inherited from a previous administration.”

            1. Or he’s well aware that the country he adopted them from can make that claim without him being able to refute it.

        3. The primary difficulty is going to be keeping the people on “our side” from throwing in the towel and rejecting America because they think it doesn’t work. After all; the marxists said that America is XYZ and we should trust known liars, right?

          Everyone likes to joke about shooting Communists, and for good reason. We’d be better off shooting defectors.

          1. You have correctly identified the Marxist goal.

            Destroy trust and confidence in the American system.

            Hijacking it to their service is only to that purpose. They don’t want to keep any part of it.

            Their goal is to get -us- to agree to revolution.

            Thus using the system to screw them is both poetic and counter to their objectives.

            And for humor, call them Marxist-Lemmingists.

      1. What are the alternatives? Jo somebody the Libertarian, who doesn’t have a prayer against the major parties, or Biden? The Biden who occasionally forgets what office he is running for, who he is running against, or why he is running at all? The Biden who is hiding in his basement and hasn’t campaigned in months, whether it’s because of coronavirus, or more likely because his handlers are afraid that if he talks long enough he really will beat Joe Biden? I am entirely confident that that if he is elected, his administration will be stuffed with Obama and Clinton loyalists who will lead him around by the nose from folly into wickedness because he himself can’t see past it. It looks like Trump is the best we can hope for in the next four years. Ignoring his tweets and watching what he has actually done, this time around for me it will be a vote for him instead of against his opposition. Surrender to the likes of Antifa is not a valid option.

        1. If Creepy Uncle Joe is elected he might make it to the inauguration, but my bet is not much longer. He will either tragically Epstein in his sleep or they’ll suddenly discover he meets the “Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties” under the 25th amendment and kick off the process to designate the veep as “acting president”.

          Note the 25th amendment process requires a joint congressional 2/3rds vote limited to the subject of the president’s incapacity only if the theoretically incapacitated president wakes up and sends a statement over to Congress that he feels much better, thanks, how’s everything down there? – which vote could get sporty if the Congress is not at a 2008-level majority for the President’s party.

        2. There is no other option than Trump, frankly. Even staying home is NOT an option, as it cedes ground to the Dems. That’s what I’m seeing in the longer Twitter discussions between non-Leftists there. And some Disqus threads.

        3. I am entirely confident that that if he is elected, his administration will be stuffed with Obama and Clinton loyalists …

          Oh. you cock-eyed optimist!!! Obama & Clinton loyalists are an unlikely best case scenario.

          Since getting Bernie to suspend campaigning Ol’ Marse Joe has been absorbing Bernie’s people into his campaign, setting them to crafting policy proposals for the Woke & Alarmed.

      2. DACA didn’t go through the APA process, so a lawsuit should get it repealed. Or get this decision overturned.

        1. Unfortunately the Supreme Court’s decision was the end of result of the lawsuit to overturn it. Texas and a bunch of other states had filed suit challenging DACA.

          1. No, today’s decision was on a challenge to Trump’s Executive Order ending DACA.

            The only SCOTUS decision on DACA itself was the 4-4 decision affirming the injunction against Obama’s attempt to expand the program. 2 years ago a district court judge said that the program was likely unconstitutional but didn’t issue an injunction because it had already taken effect. Trump’s elimination of DACA probably mooted that case, I can’t find any record of it actually being decided by the appeals court, but today’s decision reopens that can of worms.

  8. The Tulsa rally is Friday. 7PM central, I don’t have conflicts.

    I’m afraid I’m going to have to watch.

  9. Most bees have a second way of warning you away from the hive: they head-butt the intruder. If ever you are walking along, thinking you’re minding your own business, and bees start dive-bombing you — go back the way you came, IMMEDIATELY! You are within ten feet of the ‘sting line’ and in for a world of hurt if you keep going.

    One thing I don’t like about the bee image — it implies that we are just mindless drones, unable to think for ourselves. Those are our enemies, not us. They are the ones that envision the ‘perfect society’ as an ant-hill with every ant in its proper place. Of course, every one of them believes THEY will be the queen…
    ———————————
    Count Vordarian: “What? You’re a Betan! You can’t do—“

    1. unless they’re carpenter bees . . . they just fly as well as a drunk driving a hovercraft.
      Though getting one to the head can hurt just from impact.

      1. They also seem intent on testing that that glass window next to my work computer is really, really solid “Hm, maybe my thumping bounce headbutt just now was a false negative – I will try that again!!”

        1. typical Carpenter Bee flight:
          Wall, wall, window, window, wall, wall, whoops wrong way, wall, ceiling, wall,window, window, wall, ceilingwallwindow . . .land, oh, this is my hole I just left. Where was I going?
          Wall, wall, window . . . . .

    2. I admit when I was learning/practicing beekeeping, the ones I met had their defense responses bred way down and treated large primates roaming well within ten feet of their hives as normal. For bees with more or less wild-type normal responses… like the Africanized ones (and the Apis scutellata that contributed the scary genes are the ones you want if you’re actually in Africa!)… oh yeah, the head-butting is back off before we do our level best to destroy you.

      To be fair, while one could hardly call them individualistic, I don’t think bees (and other eusocial insects, but I was never quite as fascinated with the others) are really notably more mindless than the average bug. Still, bee biology has room for a lot of different directions with the symbolism… on the third hand, probably so do most critters.

      1. One problem I have with the Bee as Mascot is that a bee is a one-shot attacker, dying after delivering its sting.

        Which is not necessarily the association we most want to promote.

    3. Actually, bees can reason. They did experiments, IIRC, where they put a bunch of pollen or something in the middle of a lake. The bees that found it out there went back to the hive to get recruits, but most wouldn’t go because it wasn’t a logical place to find food/supplies.

      1. Bees are smarter than Democratic economists, then…

        Well, given the overall success of ekkunomicks at managing or predicting economic factors, smarter than most economists, period…

        1. If you laid all the economists end to end, they would all point in different directions.

          1. I once read that economists make predictions, not because they know anything more than anyone else does, but because they are asked.

            1. By the time they finish the cost-benefit analysis, the mood is long since past. :->

  10. In other news about not putting up with sh!t, Atlanta had a pretty bad case of the Blue Flu last night. No word about the day shift, but even through I’m outside the city I’m still ITP. I have upgraded weapon status, but will be out of town for the weekend fortunately.

    1. We now have the DA’s logic for why he charged cops who used their tasers with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, but claimed a cop fired at with a taser was not in danger: the suspect missed so there was no danger.

      I need to get OTP ASAP and work towards full rural.

      1. Well, you can tell a case filing all about the press coverage when any lawyer does his own case impeachment.

        1. When he gets off and the mob the DA threw him to burns the city I doubt there will be any Altanta PD to stop them.

          Atlanta PD was already significantly understaffed, has had six very public firing this month, and now have Blue COVID (waaaay worse than Blue Flu).

          1. We were watching social media last night in the station about it as most of the news barely covered it all. I didn’t see anything on CNN, and Fox had about 90 seconds.

            I haven’t heard what’s happening today, but last night was surreal to hear dispatchers looking for someone to take an active armed man call and getting nothing.

      2. I’m a teetotaler and it’s things like this that make me want to get drunk…. That, and shoot at the DA, so he can see how many fractions of a second you have to realize the guy missed.

    1. Now, this guy was indeed wrong about the “taking a knee” thing coming from Game of Thrones. But he’s not wrong about it being a gesture of submission.

      1. And yet he’s already backpedalling in the face of the mob.

        We need to learn there are no people in positions of power willing to stand against the leftists. They all know more power comes from supporting leftism than not and that is all any of them care about.

      2. No, I think the whole ‘take the knee’ thing being from Game of Thrones is how it’s perceived in modern younger minds. Sargon explains it being cultural to Brits (and really, Brits should only kneel to God and the Queen.)

      1. All submissive kneel.

        Just some only do it in private and to a partner, not everyone who demands it.

        Hell, in my circles demanding a random person kneel is considering a warning side of a bad partner at best and an abuser at worse. Sucks for male doms named Neil.

        1. I don’t do uninformed, I don’t do unthinking, and I don’t do submissive. And I mean in all senses. My self doesn’t bend that way.
          I kneel to my G-d alone.

      2. What’s really ironic is that the exact same people who’ve been fantasizing the last few years that they would be like the old man who refuses to kneel to Loki in The Avengers, when in reality they’re the ones screaming at people who don’t get down on their knees.

        1. I’ve talked about these people being in Firefly fandom… they think they’re the Browncoats, but they’re actually the Alliance, and don’t even realize it.

          1. I think it was C.S. Lewis who noted that the most vicious tyrants are the ones who are convinced they are good people.

            I certainly saw plenty of that in my early years, anyway.

            1. That’s generally how the quote gets applied, but it isn’t what he was saying.

              The article was about the humanitarian theory of justice– and he walked through how by shifting it from punishment to trying to “cure” the wrong-doer, even the absolute best person was going to do horrific injustice.
              Because it ignores what someone is due, in justice, in favor of manipulating people. That requires dehumanizing them to create a system– and that works as well with mercy as it does for charity or love.
              http://www.angelfire.com/pro/lewiscs/humanitarian.html

              Note: originally published the same time as 1984. As in, “I can’t tell which of them got to the publisher first” type same time, and Lewis had to shop around for a bit to find someone who’d take the article.

              1. Which begs the age-old question: If Vegetarians eat vegetables, what do Humanitarians eat?

            2. He was saying more like ‘People who want stuff will eventually get enough; people who want everybody to be perfect, won’t ever get it, and they won’t stop because it harnesses all the good impulses to an evil goal.’

              It is, indeed, important to notice that my argument so far supposes no evil intentions on the part of the Humanitarian and considers only what is involved in the logic of his position. My contention is that good men (not bad men) consistently acting upon that position would act as cruelly and unjustly as the greatest tyrants. They might in some respects act even worse. Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level with those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals. But to be punished, however severely, because we have deserved it, because we ‘ought to have known better’, is to be treated as a human person made in God’s image.

              And THEN he goes into what’ll happen when Bad People are in charge.

  11. Interestingly, the graphic for the fist used in the image is the one used in the Civilization computer games for a city in rebellion.

  12. It’s true, rattlers aren’t constrictor snakes— but then again, you never know what new tricks we might learn in a corner, tovarish.

    They don’t kill by constricting, they do wrap around to get “leverage”– at least, when they’re biting to fight.

    My dad warned me about it when trying to smash the head in with a shovel, etc– they can and will flip around a shovel handle, so you want at LEAST a snake-length away.

    1. I concede my first thought when I saw that flag was how little alteration would be needed for that snake to be sinking its fangs into the ulnar artery.

  13. Being conservative, may I propose that “My life for my home is” also appropriate?

      1. I like the bee metaphor. The bees die when they sting. That may be true for us. An individual sting hurts, but doesn’t kill, but get a hives worth of bees, that may kill. (Unfortunately, some ideas seem like zombies, they keep coming back). And it’s our home! If that’s not worth fighting for in all senses, nothing is.

        Plus, I don’t like snakes. It may be silly, but as a symbol to wear around, I just like bees more than snakes.

        Still hoping that we can fight it mostly at the culture and ideas stage. For one, at that stage everybody still gets to eat! Why is it that famine goes with communism? Do they think they are God?

        1. From what I’ve read, bees don’t die if they sting other insects; it’s only when they get caught in mammal hairs and rip things out that they die.

          So, depending on where the Brats rioting fall on the evolutionary scale….

        2. Make it look more like a bumblebee.

          Afaik, those don’t die when they sting.

    1. Being a fan of Patton, I propose “Your life for my home if you insist”.

      No SOB won a war dying for his country after all.

      1. I like the way you think.
        One of us should find that disturbing.
        But I admit to now having no idea who it should be.
        No, wait. No problem.
        Someone desires to commit suicide by another, another cannot surely prevent them from doing so.

        1. Yep – if the CHAZians had chosen instead to occupy the mayor’s neighborhood in Seattle, you can bet her “Summer of STDs Love” commentary would be more along the lines of “Get Off My Lawn!”

            1. I suppose it isn’t surprising. Avoiding disease by not having sex with strangers is apparently much less practical than widespread economic destruction.

            2. I… uh… wait… WHAT!?

              There’s that whole “exchange of bodily fluids” thing. Wouldn’t that be considered at least *SLIGHTLY* more likely to infect someone than merely breathing heavily on them?

              1. These are the people recommending “dental dams” specifically to protect against that.

                I don’t think they’ve ever had oral sex, except possibly in a laboratory setting.

                I should think we’d hear denunciations of “glory holes” as male privilege.

                Remember, earlier they were advocating [self-gratification] — for once I can agree with them: they can all go [self-gratify] themselves.

          1. I still think CHAZ will not outlive the summer. Eventually the problems the place generates will outweigh any ideological sympathy from the local authorities.

            1. I doubt it will last the month. Once they start sending out raiding parties to loot adjoining regions they will get stepped on, one way or another.

  14. Suppose for a moment that “right wingers” had done something like Antifastan. (And I do mean actual “right wing”, not merely left of Stalin.) Suppose that they did things like drilling third holes for anyone who wanted, or waving flags, or other generalized patriotic activity.

    Presented before the court is this question: Would the government wait until the next morning before reenacting Tiananmen Square?

    1. Yes, but only because the Left is far from sure that the military will follow their orders if they get too blatant.

      They SHOULD also be concerned about the effectiveness of small arms against tanks, seeing that soldiers need to pee sometime, but they aren’t that smart.

      1. You don’t even have to wait for them to have to go. (Pee) If you look at some of the footage from the Chechen revolt The military sent tanks into the city. Muy estupido. They got bottled up by the rebels in the streets, ran up against rubble and barricades, then the firebombs came out. No sophisticated AT weapons were needed. Shooting the crews as they fled on fire was probably a mercy. God help us if it ever comes to that.

      1. My guess on the matter is that they would have some difficulty getting all the needed equipment in time. But it is the thought that counts.

        And they have made it quite clear what place their hearts are in.

        1. Well that’s assuming that all those guns and ammo (and other military grade weapons) that Obama was buying for departments with no need for them haven’t ended up in the hands of the Democratic Party paramilitary:

          https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/where_are_all_the_guns_and_ammo_purchased_under_obama.html

          For instance “The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service spent $4.77 million purchasing shotguns, 7.62mm caliber rifles, night-vision goggles, propane cannons, liquid explosives, pyro supplies, buckshot, LP gas cannons, drones, remote-control helicopters, thermal cameras, military waterproof thermal infrared scopes and more.”

          Read the whole thing. The list of what was purchased and the departments that got it is frightening given the Obama proven track record of laundering weapons.

          1. If I remember that report correctly, they were doing a lot of slight of hand– to take from your example, it sounds crazy that plant and animal inspectors would need night vision goggles, right? What the hell!

            Well, until you go look up what the agency does.
            The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service protects and promotes U.S. agricultural health, regulates genetically engineered organisms, administers the Animal Welfare Act, and manages wildlife damage.
            https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies/animal-and-plant-health-inspection-service

            So they need night vision for the same reason that the lady down the road with all the roses has night vison cameras.

              1. You mean like propane?
                For the propane cannon?
                Which, in spite of the military sounding name, is a bird scaring device? (Ditto for the LP gas cannons.)

                There is no mention of fully automatic weapons for the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service — that’s the Department of Energy.
                You know, the ones who guard the nuke reactors, among other targets?
                The M16s in question are even literally named the Department of Energy, because they were specially designed for guarding nuke sites. They needed a 9mm.

                *************

                As I said, it’s been a long time since I went through one of these lists– but every time I could find decent information, the very information that somebody making the list had to have, they were scare mongering.
                IIRC, I only started looking because something or other on a list was something that I knew about, and it wasn’t unreasonable; heck, it may have been the Forest Service buying ammo. The Forest Service has been armed for years, now, my mom’s been making cracks about “squirrel cops” who really shouldn’t be given a gun since I was a kid.

                1. > something or other on a list was something that I knew about,

                  I got some entertainment out of one of the “Trump’s concentration camp locations” lists a few years ago. Near the top of the list was an Army base that had been used as a refugee camp several times before, but which is now an industrial park.

                  Checking the other locations (the list gave GPS coordinates) showed horrific dystopian locations like an empty field, a small local airport, a furniture factory, a used-car lot, etc.

                  Of course, most peoples’ minds seem to shut down when presented with numbers, and most of them probably had no idea what the GPS coordinates were since the term has been taken over to mean “James Bond online map thingie” now.

                  1. I know that the Navy contractors get their gear from the Navy. The personnel management is just done by someone else.

              2. Bears and illegal marijuana farmers, probably.

                Although “blowing up trees that fall across the road” and similar uses are basically agricultural.

    2. Um, does Ruby Ridge strike a bell? They HAVE done the Tienanmen Square thing already. There are other instances as well. And can we ever forget Janet Reno sending people armed with M-16s to seize a child to send back to Communist Cuba?

      1. Kinda feel sorry for Janet Reno, in retrospect. Apparently the same quality FBI agents that we see in DC today were already working in her time.

        And it was a known fact that if you were such an FBI agent, and you made a presentation to Janet Reno, and told her that little kids were in danger of death, or being molested, or whatever, and made it sound super sobby — she would send in everybody and everything, without investigating closely what “everything” was, or if it even made sense. And so the FBI and other agencies were always playing this sad song for her.

        Of course, this didn’t do much to “save” the kids in Waco, but she seems to have blocked that out. So I’m only a little sorry for her, and a lot sorry for us.

        1. This may not be a Christian sentiment, but as far as I am concerned Janet Reno can BiH. Unless, that is, (however unlikely) she repented of her misdeeds before shuffling off her mortal coil.

  15. And monarchists! You don’t get more conservative than that 😋

    Joking aside, I love it. Hit my user name at the mail of positively charged atomic particles for a nice bee icon – specify cuddly or muskateer.

    1. Snek flag chooses you.

      Flew before Declaration, will still fly after end of Great Experiment, if it comes down to that.

  16. The author should have given more thought to his title. If he had named it according to one of the themes of the blog (“be not afraid”) he could have gained for himself a lifetime supply of carp, without anyone needing to teach him how to fish.

    “Bee not Afraid.”

  17. That’s not why Utah is the Beehive State. But I’m sure that many there would say “close enough”.

    1. Especially since it sounds rather like Moroni’s Title of Liberty: “In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children”, (Book of Mormon, Alma 46:12)

  18. I like the bee flag.

    The worker bees have the sting, and are 100% female. This will totally boggle the hard-lefty-“feminists” to see men flying that flag.

    Sweet.

    I have felt as if I was in some bad eighties Bee movie….

      1. I am Beeside myself.
        I Beehave in a way to further the truth.
        Beecause as the man said speaking words of wisdom: “Let it Bee”
        Don’t ask me to bee a beecon of hope however.
        Too ugly of an old has been.

        That’s all i got.

        1. Bee-the-muse! Bee-the-muse! Bee-the-muse!

          To Bee is to Do.
          To Do is to Bee.
          DoBeeDoBeeDooooo….

          Comb Bee Yahd my Lord….

      1. Hiram Berdan was a Union officer in the Civil War. He designed a .43-caliber single-shot rifle of the trapdoor style (the Berdan #1) and sold it to the Tsar’s army. In 1870 he sold them an improved design that used a bolt. (the Berdan #2).

        In 1891 the Tsar’s armorers upgraded the design to use a new smokeless cartridge, the 7.62x54R, still made after 129 years. Sergei Mosin upgraded the bolt to take front locking lugs and Emile Nagant engineered the conversion to magazine feed, using a very sophisticated interruptor system. They outsourced production to England, France, and the USA while they were setting up for production in Tula and Izhevsk.

        How similar is the Mosin-Nagant to the Berdan #2? Enough that during WWI when they were short of rifles, the arsenals dug old #2s out of warehouses, screwed new 7.62 barrels on, and machined the receivers to take Mosin-Nagant magazines. The converted #2s were perfectly adequate for blowing cantaloupe-sized holes in the Boche, but alas, they weren’t effective against Russia’s internal enemies…

        The USSR stopped making new Mosin-Nagants sometime after WWII, the M44 being the last major variant. Some are still in service in the Russian Federation, primarily in sniper or animal control roles. Production continued up into the 1960s in some Soviet allied nations. The rifle was largely unchanged through its entire production run.

        When the USSR declined to pay for vast quantities of Mosin-Nagant rifles the Tsar had contracted for, the Fed bailed out the factories that got stuck with them. There were so many the US Army used them as training rifles and the DCM sold them to anyone who wanted one for cheap, via mail order. And when the USSR finally collapsed, many-many of them made the journey to where their line originated, and were swallowed by the vast American gun market without a ripple.

        And thus the loop closed.

        Some people see an old rifle. I see a piece of history, tangible in wood and blued steel.

          1. Probably 95+% of reloaders are in the US and Canada. We favor the British Boxer priming system. The rest of the world uses the American Berdan system.

            The Berdan primers add extra and annoying steps to reloading, but the true hassle is that there are no standards (or too many standards) for size. Boxer primers come in “small”, “large”, “shotgun”, and “.50 BMG”. There are eleventy different kinds of Berdan primer, but it really doesn’t matter because you can’t buy most of them anyway…

  19. A quick riddle:

    Nigel, a non-binary queer is in the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. He has with him a fox, a chicken and bag of corn.

    He is trying to climb over a local sourced association barrier installed to keep a safe space for proper calming efforts. His left wrist is sprained due to a particularly resistant piece of glass encountered that morning, so he can only carry one item over the barrier at a time.

    If he leaves the fox alone with the chicken, it will eat the poultry. If he leaves the chicken alone with the corn, it will eat the grain. How can he get all the items to the other side of the barrier?

    Answer below.

    ……

    …..

    Hi, Sarah!

    ….

    …..

    Answer:

    While thinking of how to accomplish his task, a CHAZ community safeguard patrol comes upon him.

    One of them, a vegan, immediately knocks the chicken out of his hands, screaming “Meat is murder!” The fox jumps down and tears into the chicken. The other patrol members denounce Nigel as complicit in the death of a fellow aimal-kin. He is bodily ejected from the Autonomous Zone. The corn, as well as his wallet and cell phone are kept for the greater benefit of the collective.

    1. Good solution! and I was going to say he held the corn, tied the chicken to his head with fair-trade open sourced shoelaces while he placed the fox, uh, where gerbils fear to tread?
      You got me beat.

  20. I have no doubt the left will declare that the flag is evocative of “murder hornets” and is racist symbol that implies a desire to commit mass murder of the oppressed. Meanwhile the Antifa flag, which shows the International Communist Fist strangling the Snake of Liberty will be praised as peaceful and a symbol of “social justice”. And if you make an ad critical of Antifa and the Marxist symbols used, your ad will be banned, particularly if you are running for office as a Republican.

    1. The humble bee has proven, when confronted inside its home by murder hornets, capable of concerted group action making the hive too hot for the murder hornet, killing the intruder.

  21. I want to commission a flag that shows this, but has snakes of all sorts of colors biting the hand.

    And a simple caption-“Come for one of us, we will all come for you.”

  22. “One of the problems we face in the United States is that unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are — for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable — they just don’t believe science and they don’t believe authority,” — Fauci

    “don’t believe authority”

    I think this is sufficiently clear evidence to have his citizenship revoked. Not that he would probably care, but it is the principle of the thing.

        1. *sigh* I have before admitted to being the kind of optimist that thinks that everyone shares my virtues and no one shares my vices, but…

          Surely, if he had explained clearly, most Americans would have understood, and complied, and made their own.

          Instead he sacrificed nearly all of the credibility of himself and the CDC.

          Over a temporary supply problem.

          1. Home-made ones are useless, even when it’s mandatory for everyone to wear them. They make no difference in spreading. We actually tested this, a century ago.
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18010229/

            Funny thing, while trying to find this paper again, I discovered that he’d originally argued that only those who were of “low intellect” were getting sick with masks, because if you were smart enough the obviously ….until over 70% of the nurses in hospitals got sick, too. Even though they had six layers of gauze over their faces.

            Non-home-made-ones– well, they’re effective when used as instructed.

            Husband’s office actually provided a bunch of really good ones that can be reused. Specifically say not to wear for more than 20 minutes, it’s for direct contact, high risk situations.

            But it’s much, much more important to actively burn any trust or good will that medical officials had, in order to manipulate them into not wearing masks when we think it might do good if they think it’s a good idea, and now to force them to wear them.
            Then complain that nobody believes you!

          2. That’s the problem with a lot of highly-educated types; they think someone without a lot of degrees is stupid and dangerous.

            I’ve done small things of my own plumbing. You cannot be stupid and be a plumber!

      1. He wouldn’t have had to lie if people would respect authority and obey when he said, “No masks for you.”

    1. Don’t believe science? Wrong there- although there are many on the left who don’t understand what exactly is meant by “science”. Global warming, for one, isn’t science….

      OTOH, don’t believe authority? Something conservatives and liberals are now fully united on- along with libertarians and greens. Son’t wear masks! You don’t need them! Never mind EAR MASKS! They’re mandatory! Well, wait, they don’t really do any good for the masses to be wearing them- BUT THEY”RE MANDATORY! Wear them anyway!

      I’m giving blood this weekend. Red Cross is checking all donations for covid antibodies. I give blood on a regular basis anyhow, but I’m somewhat curious as to what the results of their widespread antibody testing will be- along with my own individual result.

    2. With all due charity, he may be academic enough that he is using ‘authority’ in a jargon sense.

      Which charity extends exactly that far.

      If that is a recent quote, I see three possibilities to fit the apparent fact pattern. 1. He is a career long knowing fraud. 2. He is profoundly narrow, rather badly trained, a poor scholar, unobservant, questions nothing, and lacks the imagination to understand that other people are in any way different. 3. He is senile, and is not mentally competent.

      Someone may have read so little academic literature that they have never noticed any contradictions. Someone may have the memory of a gerbil smoking crystal meth. Someone may resolve contradictions in the literature by trusting the most prestigious publication by blind rote. Someone may have never actually tested or verified anything they ever read. There are ways to have an academic career writing papers without realizing that the quality of the literature varies, and that caution has its place, but they are not ways that produce adequate scholarship.

      It is very unlikely that he can fail to realize that, and still pass a verbal test for mental competency.

      A continual fraud would be the sort of academic who would have a habit of demanding that you will respect his authority, and of never discussing faults in the literature or in other conclusions.

      Okay, sure, Science now has possible issues enough that the status quo may well be doomed.

      Given his new high profile, if Fauci is a fraud, Academia’s reputation will not long survive if they don’t take him down now, and hard. If he is a fraud, and his scholastic philosophy is as bankrupt as I am assuming, then the influence as a role model will cause future issues.

      Hmm. There is funding now for COVID related research. Anyone suicidal enough to propose auditing the publications of the high profile academics being cited by media? We have any medical researchers here who are ready to retire, and at the same time interested in taking on such a project? 😀

      On the other hand, that was clearly not a prepared remark. Being unable to explain or take into account stuff you pretty much know when speaking off the cuff is maybe not as bad as fraud, the mental activity of an eggplant, or a clear need for institutionalization. Okay, there are people who are too crazy to be safe while they are free, and potentially at the same time useful for intellectual work, if you can test and verify the results, and if throwing out the nonsense isn’t too costly.

      1. Faucci likely believes himself Aristocracy, thus entitled to Commoner obedience.

        Heh.

        What a Maroon!

      2. It’s probably the final option you mention– a really fancy way of saying “these people won’t do what I say, even though I am obviously right.”

      3. I get the sense that Fauci is one of the academics I’ve met who cannot work on-the-fly any more. They are so reliant on having prepared material, notes, numbers, and a stack of references that they’ve lost the fuzzy-logic needed to pull together material off-the-cuff and roll with that. I suspect being in the federal bureaucracy is part of the problem, because numbers are the be all end all, and those you don’t do from memory. (Well, most don’t do them from memory.)

        1. Also, the Federal bureaucracy inadvertently beats any traces of initiative out of you in favor or following standard procedure (been there, seen that). Every rule is in place to solve a specific problem, which then creates a new problem, which means adding another layer of rules…

          1. And someone who stays long in that environment runs the risk of fossilizing into a process bound thinker.

            “I’ve invested my time and energy into the bureaucracy, so it must have been effective. If that is how I have usefully changed the world, than it must be so for everyone”. It is one way to make the mistake of thinking that the world revolves around the Federal government, as the be all and end all of existence.

        2. Yeah, I remembered at the end that I’m not reliably coherent when I don’t have prepared material.

          At my best speaking off the cuff, I’m pulling together ideas that I’m been diligently working on expressing for a while.

          Something truly new to me, I can’t even understand well enough for novel thinking. Past a certain point, I can have thoughts that may be new, but I don’t immediately figure out what they are, or if they are even correct. After that, I can be pretty sure what they are, and that they are correct. After that, I can nail them down exactly, and figure out when an idea is correct, and when it is incorrect. I’m usually only able to speak sensibly off the cuff, or prepare material, after I reach that point.

          If you don’t count talking for hours, beating around the bush, rabbit trailing, I nearly can’t say anything without prepared materials. I find communication very difficult, but the degrees of actual success that I have achieved are enough to keep me going.

          That doesn’t make me any sort of credentialed expert who should be speaking to the public on behalf of a field. Trump himself is perhaps a better spokesman than I would be for any field I could possibly be associated with. And I would probably be annoyed if Trump claimed to speak on behalf of such a field.

        3. A family friend who knew Fauci well back in the day said he never knew Fauci to lie. Whether Fauci has changed, has become a partisan hack, or whether we’re merely seeing the results of nearly four decades as more of an administrator than a researcher or practicing physician , and the impact of age, I do not know.

          1. I am kind of afraid that he is the kind of guy who won’t lie— he’ll just say what he has to, in order to get those idiots who just won’t listen to do what they need to do.
            It’s a mercy, really. Like telling kids that the bottle with the poison label will actually rot their skin and flesh if they touch it. So they don’t get poisoned, until they learn better and can be trusted to not be idiots.

            Totally not a lie. Just protecting people. Who don’t know any better.

            1. “It’s not a lie if it serves a Higher Purpose.” (ie, his purpose)

              Alas, I’m one of the unenlightened who can’t slice truth that finely.

    3. It is a logical fallacy to ‘believe science’. It is merely stupid to deny science.

      Science is a process for finding facts and analyzing relationships between the facts that occur in nature. Science does not ‘prove’ what the facts are. Science can only be used to determine whether you have reached an understanding of those facts within specified limits.

      I certainly don’t believe some of the frauds that call themselves scientists.
      ———————————
      Facts do not depend on opinions. Unfortunately, for far too many people, opinions do not depend on facts either.

      1. They have the sweater with the elbow patches AND the white lab coat. And tons of papers that they paid to have published in academic journals that are totally not vanity press. Obviously they’re scientists!

        “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

        1. “You will respect my authority” stated Cartmann at the prestigious conference.

      1. Olaf Stapledon (definitely not a conservative) postulated back in the 30s that America would wind up being governed by the Sacred Order of Scientists (SOS), who would forge a alliance with China and create a world order leading to wrack, ruin, and a multi-thousand year dark age.
        Last and First Men is worth reading, Just note poor Olaf had no trace whatsoever of a sense of humor…

        1. President Eisenhower mentioned this in his farewell address, too, right after he warned of the military-industrial complex He warned that “we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

    4. I have done some more thinking, and expanded on this theme:

      “Science is a tool and a process for understanding the universe around us. We can’t ‘prove’ anything about the universe with science; the most we can do is confirm that we understand parts of it, within clearly defined limits.”

      “It makes no more sense to say that you ‘believe science’ than to say that you believe a socket wrench, or long division. You can only believe, or disbelieve, the results, and it is equally foolish to believe false results, or to disbelieve correct ones.”

      “I certainly do not believe those frauds who call themselves scientists, or the lies they present as ‘science’.”

      That is definitely going in a story I’m working on.

      1. Only thing I’d change is that it is a tool that can give highly accurate predictions, within its limits.

        Same way that an multimeter won’t give the correct resistance beyond its resolution, if you measure incorrectly, if there’s water connecting the prongs, or if one prong is on top of something. It may still be good enough to not kill you! But it’s not even accurate beyond those limits.

        1. Ha-ha! Or if you measure a 2.7 megohm resistor while pinching the wires against both test probes with your fingers!

          (For the non-electronics folks, you get a reading of 20K to 100K just by holding the test probes. You are a large squishy resistor, in parallel with the one you’re trying to measure.)

          The problem with saying so is that predictions are exactly what the, um, call them ‘science cultists’ are pushing. They don’t understand the nature of science, or its limits, and accept any ‘scientific’ prediction that suits their preconceptions as Holy Writ, even after it has been proven wrong. Hence the predictions of CLIMATE CRISIS IN TEN YEARS!! for every one of the last 25 years.

          Sea levels were predicted to rise 20 feet by 2015. I must have missed it. But point that out and you are a ‘Science Denier!’, an infidel, to be driven out or burned at the stake. A climate scientist who points that out suddenly finds that he can’t get published anywhere, and all of his funding has dried up. THAT is where the predicted mega-droughts have gone!
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          Complex questions never have simple answers. Hell, most simple questions don’t have simple answers.

          1. Basically, “they’re the idiots who ignore the part about working hard, saving money and controlling your urges” part in “if you work hard, preserve your resources and control your urges, you will become comfortably successful” recipe for success.

            See also, “do not use to trim arm hair” warnings on chain saws…..

            1. Gee, you think we could get them to ignore a DO NOT USE FOR SHAVING sticker? 😀

    5. If authority had used actual science instead of ‘scientism’, both would have proved themselves much more trustworthy . . .

  23. So, to combine the themes of the past two posts . . . Bee Not Afraid?

  24. The bee-flag is okay, but frankly I think a nice big alligator-flag would be(e) better.
    Alligators are typically placid critters, much given to hanging around their territory and catching some rays. If you ignore an alligator it will generally ignore you(unless it’s hungry – which happens about once a month or so; or if it’s horny).
    But should you decide to bother(tread on) Mr. Gator, he/she can outrun a horse over a short distance and has existed on the planet for several million years… Oh yeah and I don’t advise throwing them marshmallows or walking Fifi, your little yapping dog, too close either as most of them will never turn down a little snack. And you really don’t want to get near Momma Gator when she is guarding her nest.

    1. “Oh yeah and I don’t advise throwing them marshmallows or walking Fifi, your little yapping dog, too close either as most of them will never turn down a little snack.”

      From an article a few years ago:”If you make a habit of throwing your “friendly” local gator marshmallows and other treats, don’t come crying to animal control when you walk your yappy poodle down by the pond and it gets eaten. That gator has no memory of favors done, looks at your poodle as a marshmallow with a perm, and will proceed to gobble.”

  25. second thought – take their tread-on flag, put their wording above the image and below the image you print “and you will die… painfully.”

    1. G’Kar: “You will know fear…”
      Na’Toth: “…you will know pain…”
      G’Kar: “…and then you will die. Have a nice trip!”

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