If You Remember Nothing Else


I’m very busy this week — some of you might have noticed 😉 — and while I have guest posts I haven’t even opened my email since Monday and because last week was crazy (though not as crazy as this one) I haven’t even OPENED any of the guest posts.  So, if you sent something you haven’t been rejected. I just haven’t got to it.

I should be back home tomorrow and back to normal routine (now actually with more normal — long story — on Monday.)

Till then please excuse somewhat haphazard posting at strange hours, and often in a rush.  I know it’s the last thing you need right now, when you are feeling isolated and besieged. And yet it’s unavoidable right now, and we knew it was going to be like this since December (though not which exact week.)

I know, because a lot of you are my friends or are with me in mailing lists and groups, that you’re feeling like we’re losing this battle, or outright defeated.

Let me assure you that you’re not.

The left is and has always been — even in their governmental incarnations, such as the USSR — good at agit prop (Agitation and propaganda.)  One of the things they’re really good at is giving the appearance everyone agrees with them and everyone wants what they want.

Part of this is that they’re good at turning leftist insanity into a positional good.  They’ve made themselves look cool and smart — which is amazing for an ideology that always leads to brutish rule of the dumbest and most power hungry bullies and always ends in starvation and mass graves — which you can do when you own establishment news, education and entertainment for a century.  So a lot of people MOUTH their idiocy without even examining the words they’re saying, just to “look good.”  It’s been amazing to see so many intellectuals support the rioters until their own ox is gored.

Also their ownership of education has taught a lot of brainless young to mouth stuff they were taught, not aware it’s all lies.  Kindly, if you are responsible for one or more of those, keep them out of the fun happy riots, and tell them to keep their traps shut. If I’m right this will turn on a dime.  The professional agitators are smart enough to escape fast, but those brainless young might get killed. Tell them the life they save might be their own and that they’re “safer at home.” And away from the keyboard.

But in the end? The rioters and their hardcore mouth pieces are not even 20% of America, and the police taking a knee…. well, the police is on the police’s side. Maybe this will finally put paid to the myth of the heroic, always selfless policeman.  But what you can be absolutely sure of is that a lot of those taking a knee are doing it and feeling really, really angry.  Which means, btw, that the people who claim police was targeting them is ensuring they REALLY will.  Only harder, and faster.  Which is terrible, since most people who will bear the brunt of this ARE NOT GUILTY OF THE RIOTS.

Still, this will all shake out when it becomes obvious it’s failing, that it’s not bringing about the glorious revolution.  This is in fact OWS 2.0.  It’s part of the reality in the left’s heads (but not outside them) that everyone is groaning and suffering under oppression in America, and if they astroturf protests or cosplay revolution, 90% of the people will join in, having taken the clue.  They never understand why this doesn’t happen, and never question their assumption that everyone is waiting for the revolution.

When it becomes obvious this too will fail, they’ll switch to something else. Given what the left is today, it will probably be surreal and bizarre.  More on that later.

But in the end we win, they lose, because they’re responding too and trying to influence people and events that exist only in their own heads.

2004, when it seemed that the left was everywhere, an older friend in Heinlein fandom told me “Nah, they’re losing. You can always tell the left is losing because they get louder and louder.”

So, remember that.

And if you remember nothing else of this post, remember this: What you’re seeing is not the coming apart of America. What you’re seeing is the dropping of the masks.  Since the 70s at least all the institutions now failing have been corrupt, all the classes of people declaring their allegiance to revolution were already Marxist, and your own government was acting against you on many fronts.

Would you rather be ignorant and continue aiding the destruction of America by believing the enemies are friends?  Or would you rather SEE CLEARLY?

(I believe we’re living in a bad novel. It’s the only explanation for what is coming out in 2020….)

Don’t curse their sudden, yet inevitable betrayal.  Instead be aware of who they really are and also that people and movements who are strong don’t work at silencing the opposition and amplifying their screaming to seem like there’s more of them.

This is their ghost dance.  Keep calm.  And be not afraid.

542 thoughts on “If You Remember Nothing Else

  1. But in the end we win, they lose, because they’re responding too and trying to influence people and events that exist only in their own heads.

    I have to disagree with this Sarah. They are in pure bloodlust mode right now because after several generations of agitation and marching through our Institutions they finally have the trophy within their grasp. Unlike earlier attempts they now have a completely weaponized popular culture machine at their disposal and have the full support of the elite classes.

      1. It’s a “revitilization movement” because they’re losing the culture war. Yes, the mainstream media and entertainment claim otherwise but that’s disinformation.

      2. This is why I say they’re a bunch of milquetoasts. They’ve never faced the serious opposition that would put steel in their spines, at least most of them.


    1. If we give folks a route to escape, we might be able to bleed them of support, though.

      “A lot uglier” where it’s only 50% innocents beats the hell out of “a lot uglier” with 90% innocents.

        1. Specifically, it’s either a very individual thing or I’m a bad person to ask– I have luck with individuals, not big groups.

          But generally?

          Act like a good Christian.

          You know how Christians are supposed to be all about getting folks back over here? Not getting vengeance for wrongs?
          That destroys evil, by robbing it of foot-soldiers.

          I try to harp on the way that they’re being lied to, and used.

          The guys screaming racial insults at black dudes, burning down minority businesses, beating people to death, diverting and hijacking tractor/trailers and FREAKING MURDERING PEOPLE are the “protesters.”

          1. Yeah, but in the moment it is more satisfying to yell at them for being idiots. Let’s do that instead. /s

            One of our best weapons is that the enemy has no concept of forgiveness.

          2. You bring to mind the tale of the bet between the North Wind and the Sun over who could make a man take off his overcoat.

            I’ve not the gift of persuasion but I understand its strength. One hotel I worked had a bar manager with the gift of friendship, such that the most unruly of drunks would call it a night rather than cause trouble for “Good Old John.”

          3. /shrug
            And they said Trump was a bad man and a racist for saying when the looting starts, the shooting starts.
            Frankly, I agree 100% with the President. You smash into a business and start robbing it, you deserve to be shot dead right there. Doesn’t matter if you’re black, white, yellow, red, or purple poke-a-dot; you’re a violent criminal caught in the act of committing a felony crime and there are too many to safely process with 100% regard to their falsely alleged rights. And if you didn’t know that looting was a violent crime and you shouldn’t do those things, then you’re a hopeless case and not worth trying to re-educate into a real human being.

            1. But Trump s divisive!!!!!! Ge. Mattis said so!

              Pfui. If Trump committed Seppuku i the Oval Office to covey his remorse over the nation’s division the Dems and MSM (BIRM) and Never-Trumpers would sniff, “He’s just trying to avoid punishment for how he’s divided the country, the cowardly grand-stander.”

              Then they’d criticize Pence for performing the kaishaku rather than letting Trump suffer longer and denounce the whole thing as an effort to steal an election for the GOP.

              Then they’d spend the next week enumerating the flaws of Trump’s death poem.

              And, of course, they’d denounce his cultural appropriation of a sacred Japanese practice as typical of his disrespect for minorities and foreigners.

              1. And Trump’s greatest strength against them is that he knows that nothing he does will satisfy them, so he doesn’t have to try. He plays to the VOTERS, because the voters matter.

                1. I presume all and sundry have seen reports of the Rasmussen Survey’s findings that Trump is the choice of 41% of likely Black voters?

                  Apparently one thing they like about him is, unlike other politicians, that he’s perceived as a straight talker. I’m guessing most Urban Blacks understand the hyperbole he is prone too and know how to translate Trump.

            2. I mildly disagree with the president– someone running at my car with a bat out, when they’ve stopped my car so I can’t just get away, is going to be shot if I can manage it.

              No free first hit. I’m not big enough to take it.

              (Of course, I also consider stopping cars to be a pretty obvious sign of aggression…..)

              1. Likewise. Which is what really gets to me about the underpass “peaceful protest” in my area. Guys, do you have any idea what it looks like when you’re lined up on both sides of a traffic bottleneck that even a heavy rain renders possibly impassable?

                If you don’t you’re idiots.

                If you do – you’re not peaceful, you’re an imminent threat.

                1. They’re going to trigger someone’s PTSD at some point, and people are going to die.

                  And there’s nothing we can do about it, because the idiots are being told that their dangerous behavior is OK.

                  1. Yes, they are. I’m just lucky I saw it on the news before I might have ended up near it – I can so easily picture driving up on that unaware, seeing screaming people surrounding me on both sides, and panicking and killing myself by flooring it through a not-very-wide tunnel with no room for error.

                  2. Hell, they got my PTSD going with the lock down and i can’t be the only survivor of leftist sh*t who is ready to explode at the wrong word, let alone at being cornered.

                    1. Agreed. I was actually starting to work through the most pressing of my problems that would have let me finally relax from violin-string status – and then lockdown. And now this… deliberate, malicious mess.

                      Let’s just say I’m glad this isn’t speech-to-text, because my private use of language has had a bit too much in common with Genjyo Sanzo from Saiyuki these days….

                    2. I can’t help contrasting this behavior with the now-yearly crybulling about canceling Independence Day fireworks because it “might trigger” someone.

                      The actual triggers for military PTSD? Tend to be quite similar to “driving like an F*ing moron.”

                      These shutting-down-interstate marches, and the violent mobs were not, previously, something folks were likely to have to deal with.

                2. Sadly, the Overton Window remains warped, so that the only standards the left needs are double.

                  Although without the KGB running them, more and more actually believe their own nonsense, and are increasingly vulnerable to logic paralysis when you point out the inherent contradictions.


              2. Congratulations: you’ve just shot (and probably killed) some poor schlub trying to make ends meet by picking up a side gig working for Louisville Slugger to give away promotional bats as they try to reduce excess inventory due to the lost baseball seaso.

                1. Funny thing– at one point, my mom dated a cop.

                  It was more of a “have someone to hang out with” thing, but she got along well enough with everybody that seh got to do the shooting simulator they had back in the 70s.

                  I don’t know what it looked like, but she was always sure (and I agree) that a lot of this BS would be fixed by having anybody who complains about a bad shot by the cops, first go through the sim to see if they pass.

                  She didn’t, she shot the guy who was reaching for his card that said “I am deaf and dumb.”

                  I, however, am not a cop.

                  (My kids watched Zootopia, and husband and I were explaining that the people they were getting mad at were not actually wrong, and the gal wasn’t being insulted– she just simply wasn’t physically suited to some things.)

                  1. There have been a few cases where a politico/activist/journalist went thru the shoot/no shoot trainer and came away with an understanding of just what it all entails. It’s not like your rabble rousing at the party. But for every person given that opportunity there are hundreds whose entire knowledge is from tv.

                    1. It would be worthwhile for PDs to regularly run folk through such a drill, possibly with paintball gun (I don’t think untrained shooters with live ammo is a good idea) as part of public relations programs. Make them run a 45-second sprint first, to get them in the right mood.

                      I wonder whether doing that in VR gear would work?

                      Do it for local oversight boards (walk a mile in our shoes), community leaders & pastors and, time/capacity permitting, general public. Oversight boards, community leaders and such ought be called on to do ride-alongs often enough to ensure they don’t forget what the job entails. Any reporters — print or TV — who doesn’t take advantage of the opportunity ought be called out any time they criticize procedures.

                      Police need to be accountable, but accountable to realistic standards. I’m betting Fingers Biden couldn’t hit a charging suspect in the torso, much less the leg, and would get knocked tail over teakettle (which would be an undoubted improvement.)

                    2. Yep. A huge amount of the problem is the insularity on both sides. And these riots just serve to reinforce that.

          4. Thank you. I learned yesterday that a convoy of protesters are supposed to be coming through my small town today and I’m not there. I woke up at 4 a.m. and realized if I were there, I’d want a loudspeaker instead of the shotgun loaded with rock salt, because I would say to them as they (hopefully) rolled b. “You are being used!”

      1. Sometime around Friday anyone going to a protest anywhere in the country quit being an innocent.

        They might be fools, but they are not innocent.

        No matter who peaceful in planning, at this point the assumption is any protest gathering will become a riot and going is accepting that you are at risk of being a rioter.

        1. Thing is, we have to let people who figure out they did something stupid leave it.

          Doesn’t mean “enable bad behavior.” Oh, F no, and I’m not stopping my car if someone jumps in front of it– I have kids to protect, if I didn’t also believe my own life is worth having.
          But if someone goes “damn, I f’d up, and those guys are WRONG!” then we go “welcome to the party, pal!” (or variant)

          Oh. And if they then try to throw a bomb from our lines, we hit them over the head with something. 😀

          1. There’s a video making the rounds that I haven’t seen myself, but have heard described. The focus is an Antifa-type who infiltrated a peaceful protest. He tries to turn the protest violent, and starts by smashing some concrete to provide improvised bricks.

            It’s at that moment that a group of guys seemingly comes out of nowhere, almost effortlessly restrains him (i.e. the guys doing this are pros who’ve done this before either for real, or in training), and hands him over to the nearby police.

            1. Saw a claim somewhere about hard core anarchist protesters being fairly organized. Allegedly there is a libertarian/anti-communist faction that takes the stuff fairly seriously. No clue of the truth.

            2. I saw the one where the guy sits down, tries to make a maltove, and like four guys go RIGHT to him, take the lighter, and drag him to the cops.

              1. There is, arguably, a duty for protest groups to police their own and give no haven to agents of disruption in their midst. As with the situation you’ve described, as with (even more surely) TEA Party supporters, permitting such threats to operate from within is a tacit endorsement of their criminal acts.

                Sure, the MSM and Democrat politicians (BIRM) are going to denounce the latter group and defend their own, but the principle cuts both ways: providing haven makes you complicit.

                1. To quote myself commenting elsewhere:

                  There’s a reason that people talking about “standing with” people whom they support– because if you’re standing next to the guy doing the thing, and do nothing, you’re complicit.

                  Contrast the gal with the bat, who got cover-fire for her attack, with the multiple attempts elsewhere that someone tried something the guys on either side hit him over the head and dragged to the cops. There’s an entire genera of false-flag infiltrators at non-progressive events being turned on and mocked by the people they’re attempting to slander.

                2. A lot of this goes back to 1972, and Kent State. The ‘protesters’ there did at least a million 1970’s dollars damage to the TOWN. Then they capped their idiocy by setting fire to the ROTC building, and interfering with firefighters on the scene.

                  I have zero sympathy for any of the dead. Once a ‘protest’ has reached the point of setting fire to buildings, it is time to LEAVE. A building sized fire is not under anyone’s control, and if the fire starts jumping to other buildings, somebody is going to die, horribly. That ‘protest’ had to be SHUT DOWN, quickly, before the imbeciles involved got any more bright ideas.

                  Calling in the National Guard was one of several bad options.Local police, form a force sized for a smallish college town, had been overmatched from the start. The Ohio State Police of that era were mostly blue-collar guys with very little patience for long-haired college kids; if sent in they would very likely have played whack-a-mole with the ‘protesters’, and killed more than four. I believe that it was hoped that the sight of military uniforms would shock some sense into the ‘protesters’, but those idiots were too sure nobody would DARE stop them.

                  We have, for DECADES, been far too tolerant of violent ‘protest’. Ok, yelling, throwing small things like drink cans, there does need to be SOME leeway. But bricks, stopping traffic, and fire are too goddamned popular, and should be treated seriously.

                  Fire especially. I have always thought that the way to deal with ‘flag burning’ was to use the existing laws against fires in a public place. Let people who want to burn the United States flag (or any other) get a permit to do so. It puts them on all fours with the KKK cross-burners, whose idiocy is curtailed with the same tactic. There should be no First Amendment issue involved; the size of flag burned at ‘protests’ is a medium-large piece of petrochemical fabric that, if it got loose, could easily melt onto somebody with horrifying effect. It’s an obvious public hazard.

                  And that’s pretty much the LEAST dangerous use of fire by these pillocks.

                  The message needs to be sent; you have a right to protest. The public has a right to ignore you.

                  1. You have a right to peaceably assemble and request redress of grievances.

                    Contrary to MSM and Democrat vapors, use of military troops to quell “protests” goes back to the founding of the Republic. Washington & Hamilton raised an army to march on protesters and end Shay’s Rebellion, Lincoln sent troops fresh from Gettysburg’s battlefields to put down Draft Riots in New York City. Hoover, in 1932, used Army forces (led by Gen. MacArthur and his aide, Maj. Dwight D. Eisenhower) to clear the “Bonus Army” (a group of 43,000 demonstrators – made up of 17,000 U.S. World War I veterans, together with their families and affiliated groups) from Washington DC’s Anacostia Flats, ordering a contingent of infantry and cavalry, supported by six tanks and employing bayonets and tear gas.

            3. I just saw a delightful video today of an antifa-type who jumps out of his car, drops some kind of molotov-type incendiary, and heads back to the car–and IMMEDIATELY, you see a protestor drop his sign, scoop it up and TOSS IT INTO THE ANTIFA DUDE’S CAR.

              It was glorious.

  2. I had the sound off on the national nutwork news last night, but apparently they ended with a poem, illustrated by images of slavery and oppression. I glanced up from petting the cat in time to see that they’d spliced Jakob Riis photos of immigrants from the early 1900s and people on the immigrant ships with photos of former slaves’ injuries, and the modern protests. The conflation and false comparisons were so blatant, it was cringe inducing. Somewhere, the ghosts of the managers of ComInform and Pravda are shaking their heads and snarling whatever Russian is for “Bloody Amateurs.”

    Watch your local groups, watch your local elections, and remember: Non Timebo Malo.

      1. I already culled much of my friends and extended family from Facebook so that I wouldn’t end up hating them over the lockdown, but even so I had a massive falling out with my half brother last night (he called my Mom a racist and a bitch when she fact checked something he was ranting about). It sucks.

      1. “Kibble sternum?”

        For some reason, my mind absolutely refuses to deal with Cyrillic letters…

    1. I will not fear evil. For I know that ultimately its defeat has happened and its just thrashing about as we cauterize more and more of the heads of this hydra. That said it doesn’t mean that things may not get ugly in the here and now. And I’d prefer the damage to innocents be limited.

  3. But do be very careful out there on the interwebs.
    Heard yesterday through a third party of a solid dependable worker who was summarily fired by order of the company’s corporate HR department.
    You see, he sometimes dabbled in twitter and had gotten into a discussion with some poster that all lives matter in response to their only black lives matter right now. Discussion devolved into the usual accusations of racism and white privilege of course, and then ended. But actually did not.
    The poster found our good workers FarceBook account and thereby determined who his employer was. And filed a complaint, not with the local business where he actually worked, but contacted corporate in an entirely different state demanding that they fire this obviously racist employee. Even included screen shots of the discussion which I have been informed actually proved that while heated the good worker had done no such thing. But under threat of making the accusations public corporate caved and ordered the worker fired.
    The vicious trolls are out there. Some are being paid to do precisely garbage such as this. Attack anyone voicing an opinion counter to the current narrative.
    Note: to protect the livelihood of my source I am at this point unwilling to reveal the business in question. I cannot put the job of my informant at risk.
    So, if you are in any sort of vulnerable position be extra special careful about getting into heated discussions on the various social media platforms.

    1. There’s a reason why I’m very careful to never mention my employer in any online postings or online personal information And the above is part of the reason why.

      On another note, a friend of mine once mentioned that the ’60s were a time of insanity. I used to wonder what exactly that meant. I’m not wondering anymore.

      1. I was a teenager in the 60’s. The insanity was widespread and included plenty of bombs and bank robberies and horror at seeing armed black men. The Viet Nam insanity just added spice and confusion because that war was both unpopular and as it came out unjustified. Much like the current middle east conflicts the psychological effects of fighting a nebulous war against an enemy indistinguishable from the population are horrendous. 50 years since I started my education in the cynical opportunism of the statist mentality. I hope some of this generation learn the same.

        1. The problem wasn’t armed black men, but what they were doing. Holding up banks, killing guards, kidnapping judges, etc. Same old shit. Now some of them teach at universities!

      2. I refuse to do social media. I do not have Twitter, Facebook nor any other such invasions of privacy. Big Brother is bad enough without volunteering info.

        1. I’m on FB. They have as minimum of information as possible. Email account is only there for that and not used anywhere else. FB is for specific groups, and pet pictures. I think I’ve posted one picture (kind of) of my baby as an infant, he’s barely visible, picture was of the cat, within recent days. The picture is almost 31 years old.

          I’ve accidentally strayed into politics. The post either gets deleted, or it is locked down to “me only”. (okay FB idiots could get to it … I know *better. Worse case they’ll label something true or opinion as “not true”.)

          As far as someone picking up on what passwords I might be using, because of pet names. Good luck with that. I can’t remember half the time the mash of combinations I currently use of the 25 animal names that have passed through my life in the last 63 years. (Well I can, because I use the passwords regularly, but OMG if we’re away from the computer for a week or two … the FB one is simple compared to the critical ones.)

          * Every password required software I’ve ever worked on had unpublished back doors written into code to allow overall control. You had to have code to lookup to find it. I have no reason to believe that is not universally true.

    2. Ha, yeah. This is why I am The Phantom on-line. Also why I eschew Farcebook and Twitter. Not a perfect defense, but at least I make them work for it a little.

      There’s no talking to these people anymore. They made their choice. Nothing I’m going to say will change it. Particularly when -they- control the platform I’m saying it on. I’ll have to let the Golden Rule instruct them on the error of their ways.

      Otherwise know as the Iron Law of the Universe: “What goes around, comes around.” Usually much bigger and meaner too. Sowing the wind, reaping the whirlwind.

      It is the inescapable reality of human life. I don’t have to do anything. Actually I can’t do anything. Just sit here with my popcorn and wait for the big funnel cloud of karma to come suck them up and spit them out as hamburger.

    3. Nice thing about being retired. And not having a Twitter or FB accounts means the 1. I don’t have as much to take away, and 2. My stress levels are a lot lower.

      1. Yes, it is nice. I have a Gab account and have not posted a thing from it. No Twitter/Facebook/Google anything.

        Intemperate comments go to ATH. Oops. 🙂

    4. When Cassie here proved unfireable, they went to her house. She had been previously doxxed.

      1. And of course the same Twitter that continues to censor Trump and outright ban non-leftists has no problem with actual specific death threats made by leftists.

    5. It is generally best to not challenge such illogic head-on. Instead of responding “All lives matter” to an assertion that “Black lives matter” one might inquire, “You saying Brown lives don’t matter?” “How about Red lives – Don’t they matter?” “Do you think Yellow lives matter?” “Do Gay lives matter?” “So it’s just White, Straight lives you think don’t matter?”

      Socrates probably welcomed the hemlock if the citizens of Athens were even half so inane as those we deal with today.

      1. Socrates was a fool. He should have said, “You want me to drink that? You first.”

        1. I haven’t read original sources to confirm this, but I have heard secondhand that Socrates was imprisoned because of a technicality of the law, that the prosecutor gave Socrates a chance to escape, and others were encouraging it, and that Socrates still drank the poison to show how unjust the law could be.

    6. Trolls are welcome to do that to me, if that have the stones.

      They are also advised I want to burn it all down much of the time and am restrained by having something to lose. Trying to take everything away from me will be both removing the major governor on my anger and providing it some direction.

    7. My FB account does not mention where I work at all. And none of the people from work are on my FB friends list; that’s reserved for family and a few real friends.

      1. Any interest I had in FB got nullified after the Headmaster briefed us on a long, drawn-out mess that started with “I heard from [B] that a teacher at [school] said [uncharitable thing] about [G’s cousin’s daughter who went to the school].” Note – it wasn’t our school, but we got tagged because we’re a school. FB makes small-town gossip mills look mild and mostly harmless.

    8. I have the good luck to be semi-retired. I dabble a bit in publishing other peoples’ books … but if I became the center of an internet firestorm through something I posted on one of the weblogs that I contribute to – there’s darned little that the twitteratti could do to me.

  4. Fingers crossed. I’m seeing a lot of people posting in a lot of places the difference between the peaceful protests and the riots. Even on Twitter. Even on FB.

    I’m starting to think/suspect that the original plan was for a early/mid-October “event” of some kind, to make Orange Man Bad seem completely accurate and correct. Unfortunately, somebody jumped the gun and the proxies thought that “we can stage the Revollloution now!” and…this.

    But, the masks are going away and only the truly foolish, the truly desperate, and the truly committed can’t see them for what they are.

    1. But, the masks are going away and only the truly foolish, the truly desperate, and the truly committed can’t see them for what they are.

      In two senses, even.

      Husband is going back to work like normal next week; apparently “if it’s safe enough to riot, it’s safe enough to risk being in an office” is a persuasive argument.

      1. I had a medical appointment today and the hospital insisted I wear a mask. Even the backup surgical mask is damned uncomfortable for me, though slipping it down a bit so my nose could get some fresh air helped. “You said wear a mask. You didn’t say I had to wear it correctly.”

        FWIW, most of the staffers hated their mask as much as I did. I was a good person for the cardio tech; she’s due mid July and I’m not rocking her boat.

          1. Not a problem. Somebody who’s in a higher risk/stress/whatever category than me, I’ll do what I can to make things smooth. My nose was tucked in for the duration of the test. (Passed in one respect. I *do* have a heart. How well it’s working, we’ll see later.)

            Mask cosplay is getting amusing. Had to go the the clinic across from the hospital to get my doctor’s appointment. The med clerk had both an Olive Drab mask, and an OD surgical hair covering. Should have asked him if he was in last year’s production of M*A*S*H at the little theater. (Pretty sure he wasn’t, unless he played one of the Koreans…)

              1. Not sure if it’s there. The like goes to a “not found” page, at least for us unwashed.

            1. My heart apparently comes and goes, because its usually there, but when I play poker my fellow players insist that I simply don’t have one 🙂

              1. Several weeks ago we purchased Mardi Gras eye masks from a dollar store. I wanted my family to put them on so we could get a picture and say “Hey, we have our masks! We’re safe from the Wuhan Virus now!”

                We *still* haven’t gotten around to it yet…

        1. If I have to go someplace that I have to wear a mask, I’ve got one. It’s got a political message, printed in green Sharpie:

          NEWSOM AND
          FLETCHER ARE

          That’s the governor of California, and the San Diego county supervisor, and they ARE fascist dickheads.

  5. The Author does love those cliches, yes. It’s a good thing said Author seems to have a soft spot for us ungovernable, contrarian Odds.

    1. The Hebrews were some of the most cantakerous, miscreant ill behaved folks the Author ever put on the planet. And yet He loved them dearly and cared for them. Maybe there’s hope for the rest of us. Heck the Author made cats He must love back talking disobedient creatures.

      1. He set us free so we are free to come to HIM. That freedom comes with danger. The rocket to orbit is dangerous. Power can be misused.

        This is the most amazing part of creation, that God’s PERFECT plan requires us imperfect people. This is one of the most important paradoxes of reality.

        He invites us to join Him, but warns: “I’ve told you what to do. Now you must get out of the boat.” (add image of Peter in boat, about to walk on water badly). Will you step out in faith?

    2. This came up in conversation the other day. My comment was “I understand the Old Testament G*d better. He’s all ‘I told you and told you; now it’s time for some smiting.'” If I were a smiting sort of god, there would be well targeted lightening strikes after every “destruction of property is not violence” statement. There are many reasons to be glad that I’m not any sort of god, but this may not be one 🙂

  6. And when the mainslander media makes a U-turn and pipes an EastAsia tune next week, mention it to people whose faith in that quagmedia might get shaken.

  7. The US is a free country with a totalitarian media. Until that changes, you’re going to be in for a lot of hard times.

    1. Gee, wish he’l loosen up and say how he really feels.
      And yep, logistically speaking when seconds count the police are only minutes away.
      Not their fault you understand, it’s just that unlike politicians we common folk cannot afford our own protection detail to surround us every minute of the day or night.
      So perhaps the founders actually did have a clue and believed that citizens of the United States needed to be their own first responders. They probably should have put something to that effect in the Constitution.

      1. >> “Gee, wish he’l loosen up and say how he really feels.”

        I know; all that repression is so unhealthy.

    2. “Granted Biden probably didn’t recognize these as riots, what without all the Zoot Suits”

      I’m probably a bad person for laughing so much at that.

  8. Oh, and hope that SCOTUS wakes up and takes on the qualified immunity cases. There’s a stack of them, neatly bundled, awaiting their attention, and both Thomas and Kagan are eager to slay this abyssal monster of SCOTUS’s own making. It will show the true colors of Kavenaugh and Gorsuch. I suspect they are waiting until it is said to be safe for them to meet in person; another reason for the Left to keep things locked down.

    It’s too much to hope that Blue City police unions will be RICO’d.

    1. Anecdotally the horror stories about police brutality seem to crop up more in places where the authorities are strongly anti-gun. I’d like to see some John Lott style studies to either confirm or rebutt that there’s an actual correlation: “More guns; less police brutality.”

      (I’m old enough to remember when Florida went “shall issue” and my friends and cow-orkers were dead certain that the result would be skyrocketing homicide rates.)

      1. I suspect you’re right. Police tend to be a bit more polite when they don’t know if someone is armed or not. That can change once the person has been patted down, or zip tied.

        1. Police never know if someone is armed or not.

          Gun friendly places mean that the guy with a gun might not be a criminal– and further, means that the criminals are likely to know that.

      2. That or just whether it is tied to crime rates or types in a patrol area (Do city cops have a beat still? I’ve only worked in small towns/city where the cops that responded with us could be one of 5 different agencies, only one which was our city). If day in, day out you are working violent crime, gangs, etc vs more mixed some crime, some car, some bs, vs traffic cop sorta thing. Because that will affect how often hands on and potentially how you view (keep in check vs help vs protect from self). Could probably correct by crime rates or race to look at what, if any, affect these things have.

        1. Heather Mac Donald is probably the go-to person on this. She’s been publishing well-regarded (on the Right; the Left thinks she’s a Fascist) studies on police & community for years. Try scannig through her archive at the Manhattan Institute/City Journal site:


          Theodore Dalrymple’s perspective on this is probably insightful and he has an archive at the same site. Just substitute /theodore-dalrymple_44 in the obvious spot and scroll, scroll, scroll.

          1. Shucks – wouldn’t you know, as soon as I turned away t my other browser, there in front of me was a post by Peter Kirsanow who, as a black man and a member of the Civil Rights Commission, must be presumed knowledgeable on this topic:

            Flames from False Narratives
            The indefensible killing — captured on video — of George Floyd, following closely after the release of video showing the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, triggered the riots, looting, and conflagrations that have engulfed scores of cities across the country. As horrific as these killings were, it’s questionable whether, in isolation, they would’ve prompted riots on the scale and in the numbers that have occurred in the last week. Demonstrations, sure. On a visceral level, the videos almost compel them. But nationwide riots would be unlikely.

            Rather, the riots are a result of the narrative that the Floyd and Arbery killings are but the latest of increasing examples of innocent blacks being disproportionately shot by white cops and targeted by racist white civilians. The narrative is played hourly on cable news shows. It’s embellished by major newspapers across the country. Cynical and opportunistic politicians advance it every election cycle. Hollywood perpetuates the narrative in television and theaters. It’s a mantra of high-school teachers and college professors, regardless of academic discipline. Major corporations apologize for their nebulous complicity. The narrative is a staple of diversity and inclusion offices. It’s ubiquitous on social media.

            The narrative has been repeated so frequently, so universally, that it’s an unassailable given, a fact not to be challenged. Indeed, it’s an article of faith which, if questioned, exposes the heretic to rage, venom, and ostracization. Some fear losing their jobs. Best therefore, not to even consider questioning the narrative.

            The narrative is false. In fact, it’s not just false, it’s upside down. And it’s been false for quite some time. There are racist cops in a nation of 330 million. But 2020 America isn’t 1965 Selma.

            In short, the data make clear that blacks are, indeed, overrepresented among victims of police shootings, but underrepresented relative to black overrepresentation in crime, particularly violent crime.

            Some media recently ran the story that blacks are twice as likely as whites to be shot by cops. On its face, that’s true. But the statement doesn’t consider the comparable encounters with police, especially in high-risk situations, that are likely to prompt exchanges of gunfire or other forms of violence. Consider the following, from the 2018 National Crime Victimization Survey, Census data, FBI Uniform Crime Reports, and other sources: (For extended discussion, see my dissenting statement to the 2018 U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Report: Police Use of Force: Examination of Modern Police Practices, p. 197. Unless otherwise noted, most of the data is from 2018.)

            [Stats Snipped]

            Contrary to the tweets and posts of some celebrities, blacks aren’t being “hunted” by whites. As Heather Mac Donald notes:

            Between 2012 and 2015, blacks committed 85.5 percent of all black-white interracial violent victimizations (excluding interracial homicide, which is also disproportionately black-on-white). That works out to 540,360 felonious assaults on whites. Whites committed 14.4 percent of all interracial violent victimizations, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks.

            The false narrative has devastating consequences to society. Death, destruction, and division are but a few. The aftermath to the false Michael Brown narrative is just one example. The devastation in Baltimore is another.

            Riots are inevitable the next time a black person dies in police custody. People will be killed, property and livelihoods will be destroyed. The false narrative ensures that.

      3. My theory:

        Local laws and attitudes about guns correlate with attitudes about people. It’s not that guns make the police or anyone else more polite, but that the way people think about themselves and their neighbors and even the police determines if an area has a lot of anti-gun sentiment.

        No one who assumes that they and their neighbors are in this together is going to get all upset about who has guns. Someone who views neighbors as needing to be restrained because they’re a source of instability or even a threat, will.

        It’s chickens and eggs, of course.

  9. Yes probably less than 20% but…the mob does not appear to believe ANY lives matter and exhibit no obvious empathy towards the victims of their malignant behavior. They are having FUN. This smacks awfully close to psychopathology and I find the thought of that many psychopaths running around loose pretty disturbing

    1. Of course they’re having fun; intentionally or not, the Fascist Left has been promoting what I call ‘Hobby Protesting’ for decades. Hobby Protesters don’t protest because they believe in a particular cause, they protest because that is what they do for entertainment. Some people collect stamps, some people reenact Civil War battles, these pillocks protest. And because of an effort to cloud distinctions going back to the 1960’s (if not further) they don’t recognize the difference between “Peaceable assembly” and throwing things and setting fires. Hell, most of the country believes that the ‘Authorities’ called the National Guard in on ‘Peaceful Protesters’ at Kent State, and is unaware that the night before ‘protesters’ set fire to a building and interfered with firefighters on the scene.

      These little idiots simultaneously believe that they are harmless ‘Protesters’ and that they are brining about The Revolution. Which, yes, makes them dumber than so many rotting posts.

      As a society, we cracked down on Drag Racing on the public highway a long time ago. It’s past time we did the same to the kind of Hobby Protest that involves fire and property damage. Keep it civil, boy and girls (and undecideds), you have a right to speak. Your fellow citizens have a right ignore you.

      1. At this point, Hobby Protesting is going to become Civil War Pre-enactment.

        Then again, I wonder if future historians will say the Second US CW started this week or mid-2016 when the FBI started it.

        1. Probably not. The general consensus on CW 1 seems to be Fort Sumpter, which leaves out Bloody Kansas, Harpers Ferry, and the beating of Charles Sumner.

      2. Hobby protesting has been around quite a while…

        “And I went down to the demonstration
        To get my fair share of abuse
        Singing, “‘We’re gonna vent our frustration
        If we don’t we’re gonna blow a fifty-amp fuse'”

        — “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”, The Rolling Stones, 1969

        [actually, I always thought the last line was “and we’re going down to meet Mr. Antabuse,” which makes more sense in context…]

    2. This smacks awfully close to psychopathology and I find the thought of that many psychopaths running around loose pretty disturbing.

      It’s tribalism.

      Anyone outside of the tribe isn’t human.

      Yes, it does make my head hurt that I both believe “treat all humans as humans” is not normal for humans, and that “psychopath” is a valid/useful/licit mental illness designation.

      1. Tribalism, indeed. And the vast majority of people I’d speak to face to face would deny it existed. *Wry* What’s darkly funny, in retrospect, is that I saw this coming in part because I got a very early introduction into the Power of the so-called Underprivileged. Three – count ’em, three – Students of Color in the whole grade school, and they were allowed to get away with anything.

        Yes, including beating people.

        Because “you started it, you racist”.

        1. We had a dark humor funny example– siblings. Sperm donor was Jamaican, mother is generic but really pretty. Both kids turned out, looking back, quite attractive. Not raised as single-parent, although I never got into how exactly that arrangement was setup, and their dad had been there since they were kids.

          Daughter “identified” as either “multiple” or “other” when she had to identify her “race.” Her brother identified, aggressively, as “black.”

          Guess which one was the hard working honor student who volunteered like a supporting character in a movie, and which one was such a dumb thug that he broke into a gas station that had been closed for years to loot the cash register.

      1. Flipping A, Sarah.

        “ You told me Black Lives Matter, you lied, you wanted to loot the store, you needed money, Get a Job, stop stealing”

  10. Re: Ghost Dancing andvwhere this sh*tshow goes from here.
    The riots will fail to shift the middle / independents away from Trump, as too many people can see the strings being pulled by the Demonrats, and too many others are reporting online about the destruction of the Black communities, and the Antifa led destruction prior to the looting.
    To me, rhat means that the Progs will try again, and escalate.
    In the late 1960s, it went from riots to bombings, kidnappings, and assinations.
    Philadelphia is already seeing a rash of overnight ATM theft bombings, mis-identified as dynamite (no way to put dynamite into a locked ATM). These are highly organized, and are probably using a gaseous (eg. oxy-acetelyne) or liquid explosive, as the photos show machines pushed apart from the inside, but not scattered.
    I hope that the Progs are not this stupid, (but I have been wrong on that every time I assume rational intelligence on their part) but I think that they may start a bombing and assination campaign against Republican judges, businesses, and politicians.
    I am trying to be sure we will be in a position to rebuild after this mess, but I don’t yet see how.

    1. Beware of weaponized polls. Saw today a Quinnipiac poll showed Trump only 1% ahead of Biden in Texas and the biggest gap was with independents. Do you believe that–I sure don’t

      1. Polls stopped being reliable indicators of public opinion a long time ago.
        These days you have to know what was asked, who they asked, who did the asking, and how were the questions presented. By manipulating those factors you can cause a poll to produce any result you want.
        Always keep in mind that right up to the night of the election “polls” assured all of us that Hillary would win in a landslide. And most of my Republican friends believed them, but bless their hearts, hied themselves to the polling places anyway just to be able to say they cast their vote against the evil witch.

        1. The polls were always manipulitable in this way; it takes effort to produce something accurate.

          After the last election, Gallup declared that polling for Presidential races was too weird, and announced that for the time being, until they could figure out how to fix things, they were going to stay out of the Presidential polling business altogether. I can’t help but wonder what we should think about the others who stayed in the business. While I haven’t been keeping an eye on things, I also couldn’t help but think that we should be looking out for Gallup Presidential polls: they day they start doing them again would be a good sign that (some) polling has become trustworthy again.

          I didn’t bring myself to vote for Trump the first time around, because I couldn’t bring myself to trust him. Although he does things I disagree with, he has proven to be more Republican than anyone in the last two or three decades; furthermore, the Democrats and the Media (bah, I repeat myself!) have demonstrated that under no circumstances should the Democrat Party be trusted with power. How many people are out there, who are like me, who don’t like President Trump, but will go through *everything* to vote for him?

          And how many people are fearful of the end of his term, who may be convinced that the formal Democrats will still not have matured enough to deserve power, but are fearful that the next person to win the Republican nomination will also be a Democrat, like I expected Trump to be (and like I saw George W. being, at least somewhat?)?

          Maybe, if we’re lucky, Ted Cruz will be ready, but we’ll see….

          1. What I like to say is that I am of the opinion that Mr. Trump is an egotistical A-hole, but by his actions he has proven that he is OUR egotistical A-hole. And that at a time when such a person is precisely what this country needed.

          2. I think there are a lot of people like you. I did vote for Trump in 2016 but mostly for me, it was a vote against Hillary. I remember hearing the results the next morning and feeling a great sense of relief. I was not sure how Trump would actually shake out as President, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised. Yeah, he’s rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, but he gets things done. I’ve finally figured out that his Twitter account is his way of waving shiny things in front of Democrats so they’ll focus over there while he’s getting things done over here.

            People will always lie to pollsters for a multitude of reasons. They want the pollster to like them, they don’t want any of their friends or neighbors to find out that they think differently, or they just don’t want to say. Me, I tend to be contrarian in my answers just for shits and giggles. I think the combo of Wuhan lock down and riots is very, very bad for Democrats. But as Instapundit is fond of saying, don’t get cocky, kids.

            1. I think there are a lot of people like you. I did vote for Trump in 2016 but mostly for me, it was a vote against Hillary. I remember hearing the results the next morning and feeling a great sense of relief. I was not sure how Trump would actually shake out as President, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised. Yeah, he’s rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, but he gets things done. I’ve finally figured out that his Twitter account is his way of waving shiny things in front of Democrats so they’ll focus over there while he’s getting things done over here.

              ^^This. 100%.

              1. Hell, “rude, crude and socially unacceptable”? Think about who has been setting those standards…and routinely violating them because Reasons.

            2. Tbh, only reason for a lot of the socially unacceptable aspect is because of the propagandists with megaphone. IIRC in this case the first response was to denounce what was shown in video, announce fib investigation and give condolences. It was only after the rioting that force brought up. But the gestalt ignored all of that, making trump the reason for poc dying in police custody. And if you make any noises defying that, if you are lucky you just get shunned. Otherwise it is open season on not just jobs but your lives.

            3. Oh, it’s not just the citizens lying to pollsters. Teh pollsters themselves are heavily invested in “creating the narrative” – just like Stalin naming the tiny party “the majority”, so they take the candidate they want to win, and show them leading. Never pay attention to early polls, they only tell you how they want you to think and feel. It’s only in the last two weeks that they have to start swinging toward what they think is reality, in order to regain credibility for the next election. And even then… sometimes they drink their own ink.

              1. Oh, yeah. Leading questions, question order, word choice, all of it is designed to get answers that pollsters want. I use this clip from “Yes, Minister” in class:

                1. IMAO, that series ought be required orientation for all politicians and taught in college political science classes as a degree requirement.

                  The fact that both politicians and bureaucrats praised its depiction (of their opposites) is testimony to the quality of its writing.

              2. I think I mentioned the friend of mine, otherwise sane, who waited until the last moment to go vote, because he wanted to vote for whoever the media said was winning.

                The fact that the media regularly gets caught outright lying about ongoing election counts – remember Hillary’s commanding lead, and the calls for Trump to “do the right thing” and resign – never seems to figure whether people believe their claptrap.

                1. You could have stopped that first part of the second paragraph at lying. They even openly endorse lying if it is “for the cause”

            4. I, too, voted for Trump because he wasn’t Hillary. In 2020 I will be happy to vote for Trump because he isn’t Joe Biden, a sleazy sack o’ [feces] whose dishonesty and careerism I’ve monitored for nearly forty years. Not only do I detest Joe but I despise the sorts of people with whom he surrounds himself and would put into positions of power in his administration. I hold contempt or every judicial appointment he would nominate and agree with those who observe Biden has been on the wrong side of every foreign policy issue during the time he’s served in office. Biden’s gaffe’s are so legendary that the MSM doesn’t even bother reporting them, from remarking that “You’ve got to be from India to run a 7-11 these days” to Obama being a clean, articulate Black man — and that doesn’t get into his penchant for bullying people by lying about his academic achievements, challenging them to push-up competitions or boasting about how “back in the day” he’d call out somebody to meet behind the gym.

              Trump is still not the person I would most welcome in the presidency, but he is far superior to his opposition.

      2. Our new poll shows 125% of Americans would welcome a coup to put Chairman Bernie in the White House.

        You can’t argue with us! It’s science!

            1. styx is a libertarian commentator I watch. Sargon of Akkad/akkad daily, Sydney Watson, Tim Pool, Blaire White, Paul Joseph Watson, Ben Shapiro, Computing Daily/The Dave Cullen show, The Quartering, and a few others, though the lattermost does mostly game and pop culture stuff. Jon delArroz has a channel too, I recently found out. They range in political spectrum. Sydney and Paul have the funniest facial expressions.

        1. “You can’t argue with us! It’s science!”

          My answer has tended to be “You nitwits wouldn’t recognize science if it bit you in the balls.”

            1. Hell, look at the sh*t they pull, or try to pull. They obviously have balls. Big clanking ones (but probably tin, not brass). What they lack is the sense God gave a turnip.

      3. I have been asking, ever since 2016, “Why should I believe a poll? Any poll? Have any of them come forward and said, “Here’s the problem, here’s what we’re doing to avoid it in future.”?” It isn’t necessarily that they’re corrupt; they simply have obviously flawed methodology, and aren’t talking about how to fix it.

        1. I’m willing to trust Gallup polls, but I haven’t heard of any recently, although I have to confess I haven’t been looking too hard for them. After 2016 they declared “We don’t know what’s going on with polls; we’re going to stop doing them until we figure out what went wrong with 2016!”

          So, how many of these polls that say Biden is ahead were done by Gallup? I’d be interested in hearing about those!

          1. I stopped trusting Gallup when they called me up to do a poll, during which I found out they were classifying anyone where the husband was sleeping elsewhere that night as “divorced or separated.”

            So everything from deployment to an overnight business trip was adding noise to that category.

            Hard core “no.”

      4. Didn’t the polls claim that Hillary had 95% of the electorate on her side or some such porcine feces?

        Yeah, whatever the polls say, I’m more inclined to believe the opposite it reality.

        1. Everyone knows Trump orchestrated massive election fraud, aided by his Russian masters.

          You’re failing to keep up with the Narrative. Better get with it, or it’s the Happy Fun Re-Education Camp for you!

        2. To be fair, I think that various polls were saying “Hillary has a 95% chance of winning!” Most other people asked themselves “How did Trump cheat to win? It was a lock for Hillary!!!”

          If I recall correctly, when Trump won, Nate Silver (of 538 fame) shrugged and said “Well, Trump had a 5% chance of winning.”

          1. They also ask questions that lead to intentionally misleading results. The classic “are you satisfied” is the worst of these. For instance, Democrats are touting polls that “disapprove” of Trumps handling of the protests, even though disapproval could be due to not acting more forcefully. Democratic media spins it as Democrats being poised ti win in November but those polls could just as easily be interpreted to show that people are so disgusted by the Democratic paramilitary that they don;t think he has been tough enough-such people are NOT going to vote for Democrats.

            Mark Twain noted their are lies, damn lies and statistics. Polls should be included in the statistics category.

            1. To the extent that they are done correctly, polls should be statistics. To the extent that they are manipulated, they are Mark Twain’s “statistics”.

      5. Polls aren’t intended to determine the public pulse; they’re done to sway the undecided toward the ‘winning’ side.

        1. OTOH, I have seen a report that the betting market on the 2020 election has (finally) turned in Biden’s favor.

          Which means very little at this distance from the election. Biden cannot stay hidden in his basement forever and there’s no reason he can maintain focus through a five- three-minute speech, much less a campaign speech. The Democrats’ biggest problem is that they’re flogging a dead horse’s patootie.

          1. Hell, Trump hasn’t even BEGUN to unload on Creepy Joe the Wonder Veep. I suspect that when he does, it’s going to make what Reagan did to Carter look like a love-fest.

              1. Assuming the Democrats actually nominate the ninny. But who could they replace him with? Bernie would fire up the Bernie-Bros, but makes everyone else nervous. Cuomo and Newsome gave orders that arguably killed thousands in nursing homes. Opposition ads against Warren would practically write themselves.

                Their entire bench is clowns, or fatally flawed in very public ways.

                If party conventions still had the kind of theatre Mencken reported on in his heyday, this year’s Democrat convention would be one for the ages. Television killed that (and Mencken predicted it would). No faction fights where the cameras can see! The best we can hope for is leaked behind-the-scenes footage from somebody disgusted enough to be burning bridges.

    2. They are this stupid. They actually believe their own BS (and remember when Obama said, “sometimes I believe my own BS” and no-one in the state media asked the logical question of “so, that means everything that you are telling us is BS?”

  11. Anyone else find themselves avoiding or distancing themselves from people they consider friends and/or organizations they once held dear?

    I’ve been keeping my head down and avoiding posting or sharing anything that could be considered controversial and/or come back to bite me in the ass later (for reasons that Uncle Lar stated above, among others). But from my limited time on social media, according to what some people I consider friends are proclaiming, keeping silent even more damning and wrong than speaking out and saying the “wrong” thing.

    I don’t want to lose these friendships, connections, or memberships. But at the same time, I’m getting a certain feeling that no matter what I say or do (or don’t say or don’t do), I’m no longer welcome or wanted. And I can’t lie, it’s kind of heartbreaking.

      1. And this is what I get trying to juggle two different WP accounts to try and stay anonymous, and not paying attention while I’m doing it. Sarah, please just delete this whole mess.

    1. Yes. Very much so.

      And the saddest part is, many of them are good people filled with the best intentions; they’ve just got a logic error stuck in their heads that I can never persuade them out of, that, I fear will eventually make them see me as their enemy.

      It’s like something from the fairy tales, where a good person gets a shared of evil mirror caught in their eye, that twists any good they see to appear evil, and any evil they see to appear good.

      1. I can’t help but wonder how much of this “support” we see is really “Emperor’s New Clothes” commentary. “Oh, yes, I support the pet causes and candidates everyone EXPECTS me to support, because I want to be friends with everyone, and if I DON’T support this, I’ll lose my job!” but quietly they’ll still vote for what they know to be correct….

        How many students, after all, go through college, regurgitating what the Professors want them to say, while knowing full well that, if they wanted to spend the time to do so, they could just as easily (and with just as many footnotes, if not more) defend their own positions?

        There’s a reason, after all, why libertarians and conservatives can articulate the positions of all three camps, while liberals can only parrot their own positions….

    2. “Anyone else find themselves avoiding or distancing themselves from people they consider friends and/or organizations they once held dear?”

      Oh please. I did that 40 years ago. Still have my proper friends, don’t miss the rest of them.

      “I don’t want to lose these friendships, connections, or memberships.”

      It is always painful to discover that people you like are disloyal to you. But better to find out now, when nothing important is going on. If they’ll shun you over mere politics imagine what they’d do if money was involved. Or food.

        1. You know, people are pretty friendly and pleasant to be around for the most part. As an Odd I really can’t tell who is good and who is bad. It is like colour blindness. Is it red? Is it green? Can’t tell.

          When Things happen, those nice friendly people who were pleasant to be around often turn on me. Can’t really tell ahead of time who its going to be, therefore I better be ready for them when they show their true face.

          Putting a lot of time and effort into relationships and organizations is dangerous when you can’t tell when Things will turn ugly. School, church, hobby, sport, work, all the same. When shit happens I’m going to be the very last one to know, so the shit will happen to -me-.

          After the third or fourth iteration of this, about 40 years ago, I finally realized -I- was the common factor. The blind kid who couldn’t tell red from green. And so stopped putting a lot of time into doomed situations and disloyal people. It hurt, but less than continuing to blunder along would have.

        2. That’s just it: they weren’t bad. Or at least, there were no obvious red flags when I first met them. They welcomed me into their little community of nerdiness and geekery with open arms, no litmus tests or purity tests or anything like that.

          And I’m used to being the odd-one-out politically (was openly conservative/libertarian in a fairly hardcore leftist area for most of my life), but I figured after I relocated to a less-crazy area, I wouldn’t have to hide anymore And now I’m afraid that I was wrong.

          1. People are being pulled crazy.

            Folks who are secure? Don’t have to be nasty.

            The ones that feel threatened? Get nasty.

      1. yeah, i have unfriended or put in the ‘silence’ box most of the people i know from the entertainment industry… usually quietly and without fanfare.

    3. Yeah, it’s happened somewhat. I’ve been staying off line for a couple weeks now. As to staying silent being just as bad, if not worse…THAT I laugh at. My response is: Really?? Because your putting that meme up *proves* you’re on the side of right and light? Why do you feel the need to advertise so loudly and constantly? Is is perhaps because you feel they’ll come after you and you’d hate to see that those you so desperately try to please are impossible to please? (not you, Raptor).

      I have come to terms with the idea that I likely will lose some friends over this. What helped me come to terms was understanding that it is their problem, not mine. I have many friends of all political persuasions who will not turn their backs over something as small as politics. Those are real friends.

      1. Elementary school. “I will be your best friend if X.” Anyone who makes that offer is telling a falsehood, if not lying.

        Because friendship can be defined in ways that are incompatible with providing it on a mercenary basis.

        What I look for in friends is not something that they can give me in exchange for me paying some price.

        There are definitely things I have given up because of other people. Not because they asked or demanded. I was keeping counsel of my own thoughts. Because they were decent enough people, and that helped me to see that what I was wanting was wrong.

      2. lol, no worries. Given that I haven’t posted anything that that could remotely be construed as political since this whole mess started, I knew you couldn’t be talking about me.

      3. For a lot of people who go by the motions it is the latter. One of the common ways to prove bonafides to the mobs is to provide them a target to attack, either physically or socially. But being in that millieu will corrupt you and you will become someone willing to execute your own child for wrongthink.

    4. Yes.

      I tried to not be like a leftist and go all, “agree with me or we can’t be friends”, but there are some who are to the point of “why the hell do I want to socialize with you if I have to listen to this all the time.”

      Best one I’ve seen (was not me) was a white woman I know who lost a boyfriend due to constant complaining to him about white men. He was white and more than once pointed that out to her, but finally was just tired of hearing it.

      She was shocked he dumped her over it.

      1. It’s not so much agreement, as intolerance of disagreement. A lot of people regard anything less than enthusiastic support as an outright attack and respond accordingly.

        They’re not used to any kind of disagreement; their whole world – school, work, friends, media – is uniform. Your disagreement makes you a pink monkey; it’s *wrong* and can’t be discussed, tolerated, or ignored. If they can’t force conformity, they’ll go past the limits of sanity to shut you up.

        All the while lecturing you about Inclusivity, Equality, Diversity, and Tolerance…

        1. They are no different from Stalin. Whoever stops applauding first is deemed insufficiently enthusiastic and is taken out of the room, put up against a wall, and shot. If you fail to clap at all, they take you and torture you before standing you up against the wall and shooting you. If you speak out against them, they torture you and then send you to the gulag to be worked to death slowly.
          Just think of them as being little Stalins, because that is what they are.

    5. Friends, organizations, family. Stopped being able to write, or having much interest in it or reading since most of that was tied to the first pair. Don’t bother talking to half of my family because I make mistake of reading pages. It’s hard, especially since I just had to give up another hobby that was a core of who I was.

      And yep. Fail to say the “right thing” and you are the next on the pyre. Run out of fingers for folks I know that went from Trump to Bernie and no very few if any that went opposite. The inability to process the same is killing me.

        1. Only one that has been obvious but went from being pro trump before election to a current screen name of viva revolution in honor of said politico. A couple others who not so much of a hard turn but are 110% behind the ‘blacks are hunted and have a completely different life that whites’ mindset who just a few years before were crucified for beliefs on the right to the point of being thrown out of volunteering because he failed to denounce a comment made by someone else. I’ll admit, I think both are more due to partners and typical friends than anything done but it is something I’ve seen. Most of others I don’t know as well and/or is solely a suspicion given the support for all the destruction being created. It is probably just my mind catastrophising in the sense of numbers, but I can honestly think of no one outside political forums that went from left to right.

          I get that in part it’s because of the company I kept and having grown up in northeast in family of teachers so stuck with it. But I do see the peer pressure. The force to be like the crowd.

          Not trying to moby or act the downer or any of that and apologize that I seem to come off this way. I just do see a lot of the folks that follow the herd and haven’t seen signs of even trying to stray, nevermind stampede elsewhere. Maybe once I’m back at office or can get back into riflery (although that may wait until under 110).

        2. I know one Trump vote who went Bernie. But he was Bernie Bro #1 and voted DJT because Hillary hate and thinking Trump would ruin the economy totally which would make Bernie the Obvs choice in 2020 and he’d be carried in on the shoulders of the populace demanding he fix everything. I haven’t had to deal with him since I moved across town for work. Special kind of stupid.

    6. I’ve been much more open in personal interactions. But Facebook and Twitter are a fool’s game. You aren’t going to convince anyone, and there isn’t room or attention for a real discussion. So, if they are friends, see them in person and if they want to discuss it, do it in person with the whole weight of your friendship and history to fall back on.
      And if they tell you you are a racist there, then F**K them.

    7. When all they do is repeat the babble, refuse to consider facts, and constantly try to shout you down, they’re not your friends. I’ve unfriended several people over the years on FB who I used to like until they proved themselves to be toxic.

  12. This post meant a lot to me, coming from you who has seen this all before. It made me cry with relief. I have been close to despair that this country is over. Despair not for myself, but for my son who has his entire adult life ahead of him. How did we let things get this far?

    1. 100 years of this, and we could only fight back the last 20. We’re not doing badly at all. Mind our grandkids might finish it. But it’s a good start. Be not afraid. Sursum corda

      1. I would say more like 150 years. Strongly suspect the precursors to the Progressives were the remnants of the German revolution of 1848 and came here calling themselves the 84 ers. Similar named group involved in formation of Progressive party in Wisconsin.. Never abandoned their lost revolution, just transplanted it

        1. Oh, hell. Political idiocy is like the tides. It ebbs and flows, never beginning, never ending. There is always a precursor group. Which is why I decline to grant the current crop of ninnies special importance. They are only one more self-nominated elite who think they ought to be running things on VERY little grounds.

    2. How did we let things get this far?

      Because real Americans spend their time building and not paying attention to nonsense.

      But rust never sleeps and the price of freedom is constant vigilance.

  13. Those people who post that “staying silent is as bad as saying the wrong thing” rarely mean it. After all, my social media feed is almost entirely apolitical (almost, almost), and my friends don’t pick on me for not speaking up, because it’s obvious I’m not picking and choosing. They’d probably be surprised if a feed full of cats, science, and really bizarre humor started posting political stuff…

      1. Is anybody else’s fraud alarm going off on that one?

        People who want you to take a violent stand before you can get more information are worried about something happening in the time it takes you to get that information.

        …which is usually “you get information they don’t want you to have.”

        1. I’m not so sure. The offensive use of the motte and bailey is very common.

          1. Yes, it is bad that Floyd died. There needs to be investigation and probably prosecution absent significant countervailing facts.
          2. Floyd was murdered.
          3. All blacks (minorities) are at significantly higher risk from cops than others (read: whites).
          4. Protesting includes heavily beaten cops, arson, and looting.
          5. Minorities are hunted by cops and it is dangerous to just go outside.
          6. Revolution, defund the police, etc.

          Statement 1 is something that I have heard very little disagreement on. Statements 2, 3, and 4 are increasingly hyperbole and number playing. 6 and 5 are pretty much pure propaganda that has reached a very fertile populace.

          But for some people supporting the protests is supporting the rioting and so forth so they don’t want to make the statement of support of what they see as statement 4. And then you are chastised and treated as if you opposed statement one rather than any of the latter ones. And they your name is trashed because adding any qualifiers means you are a racist and thus subhuman and deserving of destruction by whatever means necessary.

          1. This is a very important thing to point out– I’ve gotten blocked (as best I can tell) because I pointed out that people were using this style of argument, and making it very clear that I wouldn’t even discuss #1 while they’re insisting I claim support for #6.

            1. It is a much too misunderstood tactic. Honestly I think it is where a lot of the power of the propaganda lies right now and should be regarded just like ad hominem or appeal to authority. How to solve, other than waiting for the mob to turn and blindside them, I don’t know.

          2. I kind of doubt the intent of the cop was to actually kill Floyd. Which is why the DA isn’t pushing for murder one in spite of the family and community screaming for it. Manslaughter, negligent homicide probably. And the other three cops as accomplices.

            When they attacked and destroyed the police station, I considered that a valid act of revolution and protest. When the government fails to protect your rights and normal methods of recourse (the voting booth and the courts) fail, then that kind of escalation is the next logical step.

            It’s when people vandalize, loot, burn and destroy their own neighborhoods, and that of other innocents, that invalidate any protest or claim to rightful revolution.

            1. Death due to reckless endangerment is probably the highest I think would be a safe conviction if it was an even handed jury. On the opposite hand if there is training, a history of the procedure being relatively safe as compared to old school pile on and such, and a good argument that the confluence of factors being dangerous would not have been obvious for the reasonable man I could see hung jury. Definitely concerned about a repeat of that BART shooting back before this was nationally weaponized in terms of case.

              1. If (as they probably will) the blow the case (likely because Ellison not only over-reaches on the charges but also insists on trying the case himself) or get it over-turned on technical grounds just imagine the howling of the mob … and how Ellison will blame the judge, the jury, the law as racist rather than admit he wrote a check he couldn’t cover.

                1. As a basic rule, most convictions are the result of plea deals, and for a variety of still smoking reasons including Ellison, there will be no deals in this case.

                  It’ll be a circus with multiple flaming clown cars.

                  And I’m also betting he blows the case. Which means the NG better be sandbagged in on street corners in full rattle for the verdict.

                  1. I still think he’s going to take a page from OJ Simpsons’ defense and try the entire department. Either way, the PD is going to take a hit.

                    1. What PD? They are firing all those icky police and will set up a new group to keep order, calling it something like the “Committee of Public Safety.”

                      What could go wrong?

                    2. We’re talking about people who think it’s better for someone to successfully commit robbery, rape, maiming, or murder than to be shot dead by the intended victim. Presumably, the worse things are, the greater a success they can claim.

                    3. California already has Public Safety Committees in both the Senate and the Assembly. They met last week.

                    4. *waves hand*

                      Public school kid, here– I had no idea why folks were laughing at The Committee of Public Safety, and I’m fairly well informed for that.

                      Heard about the Terror (in English class, via Scarlet Pimpernel) but even in political groups I have to gently explain that folks avoiding one of Thomas Jefferson’s love-notes to the French revolution might not mean they’re fascists who want to kill us all. (I think it may have been an intro to the rights of man and the citizen? Been a while.)

                    5. Foxfier: You’re not a David Weber fan either, I take it. In his Honorverse, Robert S. Pierre (I kid you not) headed the Committee of Public Safety which was in charge of the People’s Republic of Haven.

                    6. The “problem” is that it’s an extremely generic term– unless you’ve been introduced to the pattern of “People’s Republic of ____,” it sounds fine. So unless someone is eyeballing it, there’s nothing to notice.

                      Contrast with the UK’s N.I.C.E., that one nobody even has to start the jokes with.

                    7. Mr. Weber deliberately modeled the ‘troubles’ in the People’s Republic Of Haven on the French Revolution and The Terror. Rob S. Pierre and Oscar Saint-Just were probably included to put a BIG exclamation point on it.

                      I wonder, was Cordelia Ransom an echo of Madame DeFarge from A Tale Of Two Cities?

                    8. I had the misfortune? of being exposed to writings of the John Birch Society In my formative years, so i was already well aware of the irony of the various “Peoples’ Republics” set up by bloodthirsty and repressive Communists, in the early Cold War. I grant that this is probably not common experience.

          3. The hyperbole of 2 & 3 is lead ing some people to finding reasons why Floyd’s death was NOT the responsibility of the ape who knelt on his neck; he was on drugs, he had a heart condition, he was a counterfeiter who deserved it, etc.


            As I understand it, he tried to pay for a purchase with a fake $20. We don’t even know if he knew the bill was a fake. He was still having out in front of the store, which MIGHT indicate innocence, but OTOH stores don’t usually call the cops over a fake $20, so he may not have realized this one did.

            I don’t CARE what his medical condition may have been. If you can’t subdue somebody by kneeling on his neck of a minute, and all he did was pass a fake $20, it’s time to get off his neck and try something else.

            Unless you’re an ape.

            Minimally, the cop in question needs to be fired and blacklisted. He’s an unsocialized thug with no judgement, and therefore a huge political liability. Ideally, he should be executed by pressing.

            None of which justifies the riots. Protests, yes. Riots, no.

            1. I have wondered why a clerk would call the police about a fake $20 bill. One conclusion I have reached is belligerence against the clerk or the store for refusing to accept it.

              Which isn’t to say that this happened, but it’s a possibility I can’t quite shake off, either.

              I have also seen the 17 second video where Floyd is taken out of the car and put in handcuffs. I still don’t have any idea how he went from standing next to a wall in handcuffs to laying on the street next to the police van with a knee on his neck….

              So many unanswered questions….

              1. When I was in retail we had to pen all 20s and higher. Were supposed to have management get LE if encountered. As far as I’ve heard it wasn’t usually intended to arrest passer as to get everything documented.

              2. But are the questions relevant? Unless you’re dealing with one of the Infected from Black Tide Rising, there isn’t a good reason to be kneeling on somebody’s neck for several minutes.

                The Riots are unjustified. Riots are seldom justified, But the cops are, at best, guilty of staggering incompetence.

                1. Incompetence that was encouraged in their training so blame the city . Read where someone more familiar with today’s police methodology, largely inspired by lawyers I’m sure, said cops are taught the head, the neck and the groin are forbidden targets

      2. Yep. They’ll damn you if you do (because either “you’re lying!” or “you’re don’t care enough!”) and damn you if you don’t.

        1. I’ve long held that if nothing I can say is correct, I’m totally free to say whatever I want. (You’ll notice that being silenced isn’t an option…)

    1. I’ve noticed it generally is just a stick to try to force people to say the “right” thing.

      they get really, really pissy if you do something like try to find out if Tutu ever spoke out against the systematic murder (many quite horrific) of his country’s farmers because of their race…..

      1. Once upon a time I asked Dave Freer about the violence in South Africa during the apartheid years, and commented that most of the media time went to the police brutality issues, but that there were also occasional mentions of tribal violence. I wanted to know whether the media was downplaying one or the other.

        His answer was that black-on-black violence, mostly conflicts between tribes (apparently the main political factions correspond pretty closely to the tribal divisions) was massively, overwhelmingly more commonplace than white-on-black. It was also massively, overwhelmingly more brutal and more horrific (look up “necklacing” if you doubt. Normal police brutality does not come close to that.)

        1. No, thanks, I remember the Range magazine articles on what they did to the ranchers, in the 90s. And that was definitely sterilized. (Which is like the inverse of sensationalized.)

          I already have enough nightmares from reading about what US tribes did.

        2. Just look at the deaths from the various cartels and gangland slayings. Nevermind the folks that get caught in the crossfire. As callous as it sounds, someone killed by a racist cop is probably better off than someone that ends up on the wrong side of any of those.

        3. was shocked in the 80’s to meet a SA girl going to Tulane University who was black. One of the co-workers at the bike shop I worked at mentioned how he was supporting Nelson being released etc, injustice etc, and she lit into him because he was nothing but a terrorist thug who needed to be dead. She wasn’t a fan of commies, and had relatives killed by Nelson and Winnie’s troops.

        4. Some dumbass was wailing about the usual ‘hundreds of years’ slavery of black people. I said if you cared about that you would so something about inter-tribal slavery in Africa that is happening today. I never got a reply back.

          1. More than intertribal – slave markets on video in Libya a few years back. Slavery is still very much a thing in that region of curiously coincidental common religiousity.

    2. Anyone denouncing staying silent is asking for trouble. That is the sort of Fascist coerced conformity which condemns them as would-be oppressors deserving denunciation for their intolerance.

      1. problem is that this is part of how a strongman arises. Find a situation you can milk into a powderkeg, use your underlings to stoke the violence and disruption, and finally use them to cut it all off. Reason I’m worried the “security moms” from 2004 make a return except they see Biden as a return to the quiet of pre-2016. Not because it really was, but because no one fanned the flames the way the media and government are.

      2. It took me a while to figure out that you guys were actually discussing people who claim it is evil to stay silent right now about the abuse of police power and racism. When it’s not clear if the former has anything to do with the later, or if it does, how much. Even if you normally only share kitten gifs.

        I thought you were writing about getting grief for not speaking out against Antifa terrorism and the necessarily corrupt nature of BLM. Because BOM at it’s very best is still only about “.. police thuggery and complicit-if -not-actively-egging-on-their-palace-guards authority is Really Really Bad…. for Black People.” Add in the emergent property of “…And we don’t care either if it’s Black cops’s thuggery [etc.] … for Black People”, and there’s very limited good it can do right from the get go.

        And I was kind of iintrigued by the rationale for why those giving you grief for not posting a ‘graph like the one above are probably bad actors.

        It’s an interesting thing to think about.

  14. Part of this is that they’re good at turning leftist insanity into a positional good. They’ve made themselves look cool and smart — which is amazing for an ideology that always leads to brutish rule of the dumbest and most power hungry bullies and always ends in starvation and mass graves — which you can do when you own establishment news, education and entertainment for a century.

    Been having some dark musings on why Mr. Dorn and Mr. Underwood’s murders are ignored, while the death a guy who it seems was a bit more innocent than Trayvon Martin is waived as a bloody shirt.
    Note to the subtlety impaired: I choose the different words for death there very carefully. You don’t have to mind read to figure out a reason. Shooting someone who is just THERE when you want to break the law is not the same as resisting arrest in a rather suspicious manner (thanks, Cartels, for making ambushes something a normal law enforcement guy has to know about) and dying of complications from the restraint methods.

    Realized that Gilbert and Sullivan covered it waaaaay back when, and did it to a pretty tune.

    Basically, promoting really f*ing stupid stuff is a very easy way to be sure that people won’t “understand” how “advanced” you are, and thus is a useful tool for those who want to feel like they’ve got great insight but can’t manage the part that comes after ‘but’ in the “it sounds stupid, but it works” phrase.

    1. The left’s problem is more of a ‘It sounds really, really smart if you say it just right, but it doesn’t work.’ They’ve been trying to make it work for a hundred and fifty years, and they failed EVERY DAMN TIME.

      “If it’s stupid, but it works, it’s not stupid.” is one of Murphy’s Laws Of Combat.
      “If it’s smart, but it doesn’t work, it’s not smart.” has to be a related Law.

      It’s one they need to learn.

      Both policing and crime are notably unsafe occupations. Destroying the country every time somebody gets hurt is not a useful reaction.
      Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

      1. This:
        “If it’s smart, but it doesn’t work, it’s not smart.”
        This is known as Wile E. Coyote’s corollary to Murphy’s laws of Combat .

              1. In a world with allegedly 7 billion people in it, geniuses are a dime a dozen.

              2. “But 0bama is a genius!”
                Your Honor I wish to protest. This statement seems to be based on facts not in evidence.

                1. To the contrary, your Honor, Obama is a Genius: he has proven smart enough to become President, and win re-election, feats that aren’t for the short of wit.

                  We need to keep in mind that, just because someone believes stupid things, doesn’t mean that that person isn’t a Genius. Indeed, the most dangerous people of all are the Geniuses who believe stupid things, but have the sharp mind necessary to act on those beliefs — and worse, to manipulate others to act on those beliefs as well.

                  I know we shouldn’t get cocky, but that’s a big reason I don’t expect Biden to become President. He’s tried two or three times before, and hasn’t been able to succeed, and this was when he had more control over his faculties. Now, when he’s showing signs of dementia (and not the “Oh, no, how could you believe such things?!?” dementia — the real kind, as in “Joe, I know you won’t remember me, but I’m your son!” dementia).

      2. “If it’s stupid, but it works, it’s not stupid.” is one of Murphy’s Laws Of Combat.

        Never liked that one. If it’s stupid and it worked, it may well still be stupid and you just got lucky once.


    2. Roger Scruton’s book about how it starts with Marx, then winds through the French academic intellectuals and the Germans to Britain and the US was interesting. Every academic generation’s writings became less and less intelligible to outsiders because of the growing layers of jargon. Why the jargon? To show that they are on the inside and are “building on the work of experts.” That’s how the other academic intellectuals will recognize a member of the tribe/clan/club/whatever.

      I see it in my own field, except it is more proving that not only did you read [founders of subfield] but you understand their work. We also tend to write for a much larger audience of interested lay-readers, so the jargon gets pared back to what’s needed.

      1. For some people, jargon is necessary as an abbreviation of an idea. The purpose of the jargon is to give a name to an abstract idea; it’s difficult to talk about things that have no name.

        In these cases, jargon gets pared back because they describe useful things, and there’s only so much naming you need to do — and too much jargon actually makes it difficult to think about the things you need to think about. When a field isn’t discussing anything particularly useful, it’s easy to build towering structures of jargon, because there’s no reason to pare back on it….

  15. Back home Friday? Excellent. I don’t suppose you’ll exercise some good sense and take the blog-damned day off? Or at least limit yourself to a “Missions Completed: Reentry Accomplished” notice?

    No, if you had good sense you’d have never attempted a career as a writer, much less a Reactioinary Right-Wing Shill For The Corporate State of a Writer™.

      1. Currently undetermined, The stay is supposed to be from 1 month -> 4 months. It looks like they’re trying to time the return to the next SpaceX crew launch currently scheduled for August 30 – but that Dragon capsule is still in production.

        1. Don’t they need to complete this mission, thus demoing the safe return, before the next crewed capsule on a normal mission can fly?

            1. The limiting value is apparently vacuum degradation of the solar panels on the Dragon trunk and resulting power production drop, which limit appears to be based on entrail divination, as people have been putting solar panels on sats and leaving them up there for a lot longer than 150ish days for many decades, but there it is.

              They did say that the actual empirical measurements from actual trunk panel voltages over this test mission would supersede the theoretical numbers and could significantly extend the amount of time Dragon could act as a docked lifeboat.

              1. Computer modeling vs reality. A lot of the engineering models I have run into have underestimated damage compared to actual testing. It’s why they still put an airframe in a jig and break it rather than trusting FEM only

      2. I did see an entertaining post along the lines of “hey, they’re gonna be gone for at least a month. Plenty of time for everybody to buy gorilla suits and learn to ride horseback!”

  16. I’m going to go out on a limb and claim that in today’s society, the majority of what black people are calling racism is simply a reaction to the criminal gang culture of minority neighborhoods. No, it’s no fun when you are feared and suspected of all kinds of things you haven’t done because someone who has the same skin color you do has done them. It’s no joy to be blamed for things that you are not personally responsible for and are powerless to control. It’s an unfair burden on the innocent.

    But we all do it. We judge people, provisionally, by their walk, their speech, their dress, their demeanor, the company they keep, and all sorts of subtle and not-so-subtle outward indicators which may or may not have anything to do with their real attitudes or character. The mark of a tolerant man is whether he is willing to revise those judgments to the better on gaining knowledge of the individual.

    The most effective way either black or white people can combat racism is not by complaints or protests (and especially not by joining mobs!) but to demonstrate by their conduct that they are not one of those criminal types. It’s been done, with remarkable success, by blacks since before slavery ended. It is still being done. It’s a simple, but not an easy solution: Do as you would be done by.

      1. When I was heavily pregnant with the Daughter Product, I went into a game store to browse before going to the movies*. I was wearing very mom clothes 😋. My husband wore his typical computer geek chic. Date Night, yanno? Once it was clear I was just killing time, he got the attention as he checked out the new games.

        I, on the other hand, found a Baby ‘Thulu plushy and took it to the cash register.

        “It’s perfect for the nursery!”

        Ah, the clerk’s expression still amuses me, ecan now.

        *Man. Remember when going to the movies was fun? Dollars to donuts it turns into the same thing the stage plays in Idle Thoughts of an Idle Fellow did.

    1. Silly example that I use for folks– when I’m wearing “mom clothes” and go into a gaming store, and the guys act like I’m…well, not a geek.

      First time, I was wearing church clothes. Slacks and a button-down, my hair was actually organized, even! Took me a good ten minutes to figure out why they were acting funny about offering help and if I needed help finding anything. I think I got math rocks.

      Next time I went in, same guys, but I was wearing… I think it was an old Hot Topic shirt, and jeans. The helpfulness was more along the lines of what am I looking for or are you interested in anything specific.

      1. Yep – North Americans react first to clothes, then to body language, then to accent/diction, and then to race as a distant 4th.

            1. And even that, step 4 is mostly useful in “are they part of a group?” type thing, and combined with how they’re talking.

              A homogenous group dropping the f-bomb every 3 seconds is a lot more dangerous than one that has black, fairly similar looking white*, hispanic** and asian in the mix, especially if they’ve got different accents to their f-bombs. Being mostly one sex or the other is another red flag for danger– paired off is less dangerous, lower chance of showing off via violence.

              Basically, if they can reasonably identify themselves as a single group, your risk of interaction goes up.

              Silly example, if they’re very obviously Mormons, and you’re not, you’re at very high risk of a polite theological discussion. 😉 The more I think about it, the whole “send young men out on bikes to be passionate about religion” thing is freaking brilliant for harnessing human nature in a very positive manner.

              What does the non-positive option look like?

              //looks at the riots//

              * somebody forgot to inform the little thugs that everybody designated white is supposed to be the same; there’s usually enough similarity that you could believe the members of a “white” group are all related, although I couldn’t identify it along even regions-of-Europe-and-what-like-half-of-Asia-plus-anything-near-by.
              ** same qualification as on “white,” unless they’re raised in America. “Are they all talking very similarly” is about the best I can summarize it.

              1. As a Mormon–and one who served a mission to boot (although thankfully, they didn’t try to make me ride a bike, which would have been a disaster for me in a skirt)–that made me laugh VERY hard. 😀

                ‘s true though. About the worst that most people can muster regarding LDS missionaries is “annoying” in the cases where they’re really not interested in said discussion.

                (And the ones I encountered who wanted to get into an argument were disappointed in me: I spent years in retail customer service before I went on my mission. I *know* how to avoid getting into arguments. 🙂 )

                1. For some while I was on the Do Not Visit list… see, when those nice young men in their cheap black suits came to the door, I’d haul out my Book of Mormon (legacy of a long-ago Mormon landlord) and argue with ’em, with citations. Being more mellow in my old age, I no longer frighten them off. But yes, OMG, “at risk of a polite theological discussion”…. thought I’d die laughing 😀

          1. Thing is, if you’ve lived where your ethnicity and a half dozen neighboring ethnicities have been living for centuries, you probably learn young how to pick up the subtle cues of which is which. Telling two or three ethnicities apart is much easier than learning to recognize fifty, especially if their customs have evolved to aid being able to definitely distinguish them.

            If you know that the people around you are mostly A or B or C, and you know the subtle cues, than A or B or C is perhaps more obvious than dress, and maybe at least as obvious a body language.

            I have no personal experience overseas, but it seems likely that supply of clean garments in good repair is much less many places than in North American. I’m not sure what that would mean, but the utility of judging by dress might not be the same.

            1. Lot of people of Italian descent in my current area. I had heard of a “Roman Nose”, but never really noticed it before moving here. You can, with fairly good accuracy, pick out the people of primarily descent by looking at their nose structure.

              And having spent some time walking around Korea, Hong Kong, and Japan, I can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans to a high degree of accuracy. That’s one you really don’t want to get wrong.

              1. For many years after I returned from my mission in Romania, I could spot an Eastern European nearly 100% of the time, even before they opened their mouths and I heard an accent. I can’t even describe HOW I knew it, but the cues were there. (Although “Roman nose” was usually one of them, heh.)

            2. I saw it in Serbia. Albanians and Serbs. Only way I can tell them apart is if I know the names. Otherwise I have no clue. But, Serbian friends and Albanians in Serbia tell me there are several ways they pick up on ethnicity.

            3. I went to USSR in 1980. Everyone knew we were Americans.
              I found out toward the end ONE way they knew.
              In Russia they HAND WASHED Everything. No laundromats, Just washers and dryers just NOT available.
              That makes a big difference in how things look.

    2. Rap music and its glorification of slovenly thuggishness has done more harm to the African-American Community than any law enacted in the last fifty years.

      Just because some folk dress up in white robes and hoods is no reason to call them racist.

      1. It was *created*, and promoted on cable TV and on audio. The whole “thug life” thing. That much was obvious, watching it appear and grow.

        As to *why*, I have no really likely theory.

        Marketing can be a powerful thing. It’s pretty strange to see white teenagers in England with their pants pulled down their thighs and talking like they were from Watts or Detroit.

        1. I wonder who could possibly have benefited from a media depiction of blacks that strictly consists of criminals and pro forma yeah-we-totally-are-not-racist tokens alleged to be of good character and ability. It isn’t like media is run by communists, and communists would find it advantageous to promote a race war.

    3. The math doesn’t support the narrative. so the lie needs to be pushed.
      To make it look like the police are dragging on blacks more, they have to point out that per capita, blacks are shot by police in higher numbers than whites, but more whites are shot by cops, and yet, blacks are a higher percentage of the criminals committing crimes (still like 3% of the overall population commits 95% of crime, and it once was 75% of that was blacks), so playing by the numbers, every year, around 2,000 whites are killed by cops to 1,200 or so blacks, yet are less than 25% of the criminals
      Of course, MLK and Malcom X could came back to life and pronounce all the facts and they’d be ignored because it doesn’t fit the narrative. Probably impostors!

    4. There’s another side to the coin to this as well: over time, the police have been getting rather brutal. I personally blame the rise of SWAT teams and the tendency to serve “no-knock” warrants for things that used to be handled with a lot less force; however, qualified immunity plays a very large roll as well. I have a very strong impression that a lot of incidents that actually justify rage — ironically, they are incidents that are rather color blind, affecting innocents who are white, and innocents who are black — but are largely ignored. Indeed, there are enough cases of any race that I can’t help but wonder how people who aren’t particularly innocent — and who it turns out were killed in justified self defense — aren’t the poster people for protests.

      I can’t help but think that the cases that get pushed, are pushed to inflame racial tension, rather than bring more justice to the world!

      And it annoys me when people say “riots are justified because otherwise no one will hear us!” but when we ask “What would you have us do?” it’s heavy on impossible things like “stop racism” but light on things like “put an end to SWAT teams” or “end qualified immunity” or other reforms that might actually help out….

      (And I’m half-afraid that by mentioning these as possible reforms, I’m going to start a big long subthread discussing whether these are the reforms we need — when my point is that no one seems to be offering things like this as a solution….)

      1. Indeed, there are enough cases of any race that I can’t help but wonder how people who aren’t particularly innocent — and who it turns out were killed in justified self defense — aren’t the poster people for protests.

        A lot of the activists need to get the mob to enforce preventing people from looking too closely, because a lot of cases fall apart very quickly if you listen to anybody but the accusing lawyer.

        If the situation allows rational consideration of the evidence, it will gut most of the supposedly brutal cases. (As I mention far too often– like that case where the cop’s body camera “stopped recording shortly before the shooting.” Because the “suspect” broke it with the shovel that was aimed at the cop’s head.)

        You get folks to join the mob for a really horribly bad case– like the guy shot after bouncing a store clerk off the walls because the guy objected to his open shoplifting, when he charged the police car and tried to grab a gun– and next time they’ll be too embarrassed to accept factchecking before joining the mob.

      2. More people likely died from lightning strikes than by police last year:

        The movement to defund police is based on nothing but lies
        By Kyle Smith
        General rule for riots: They begin as protests that have an actual point but then descend into madness. Not only did the orgiastic masses do major long-term damage to the economic prospects of their own communities by rioting in cities across the country, not only did they shout angrily in tightly massed crowds as if they were actively trying to jump-start the coronavirus, but even the supposed thought leaders behind the riots were making radical and destructive policy proposals.

        This was the week that the disturbing slogan “defund the police” caught on.


        The lie that social spending has taken a hit interlocks with the media-created myth that it’s open season on unarmed black men in the US. Fifteen unarmed black people were killed by police last year, as opposed to 25 white people, according to the Washington Post’s database, but black people are much more likely to have police encounters than white people. In an average year, about 49 people are killed by lightning in the US, according to the National Weather Service.

        The “defund the police” open letter was released by Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors, who told Variety that too often police are “the first responder for mental-health crises” or “for drug and alcohol abuse” so we should reallocate those dollars “back to the community” for social spending.

        Not really. By a more than two to one margin, black Americans support the police and 60 percent of black Americans want more police hired, according to a Civis poll published by Vox this week. (Other groups support the police even more strongly). This week was a chilling display of what happens when police are overwhelmed: Looters rampaged down Madison Avenue and cleaned out Macy’s. Images of our city looking like a reenactment of the last act of “Joker” redefined New York for the world. This city’s revenue base is heavily dependent on the taxes that pour into the city from tourists from around the globe. How enthusiastic are these prospective visitors feeling right now, when New York, already reeling from three months of a deadly outbreak, has proven unable even to protect some of its world-famous stores? Our city has not looked this horrible to outsiders since the chaos that followed the 1977 blackout. Far from defunding the police, we need more policing. And police need to have the confidence that their political leaders will back them up.

        Right now, police enjoy no such confidence. …

      3. What’s even weirder is that there seems to be a strong correlation between how justified a police shooting is, and the outrage it generates — assuming the “victim” black, of course. It seems that any other racial category is just ignored outright. I can think of one or two police shootings where I was left wondering “Even if the police force was ultimately considered justified, couldn’t the police officer have handled the situation much better?”

        This correlation is a major reason why I can’t help but think that these events aren’t about police brutality or even racism, but rather, they are about creating a divide among Americans — and it’s not even a divide between races, but between people who get caught up in the original emotion, and those who stand back and wait for the facts to trickle in. How do I ever explain, for example, that Zimmerman was 100% justified in his shooting (and that he doesn’t have a racist bone in his body), or that Brown’s autopsy shows that he was charging the police officer when he was shot, to the people who believe these are examples of how “whites can get away with anything!”?

        Yet, if I try to express concern about someone getting shot while trying to follow contradictory police commands, I’m in a position to be accused of only being concerned for white people….

        1. Power Line has a FB Video by Candace Owens addressing this … well worth the sixteen (IIRC) minutes it takes to listen to.

          Shelby Steele has argued the biggest problem African-Americans suffer is denial of agency by White Liberals eager to justify themselves through their “advancement” of Black Victims … when the Left can’t hide behind children to push their agenda they resort to infantalization of African-Americans to produce shields.

          1. Continuing, now with Shelby Steele link …

            Then there is this curious argument spotted at Slate:

            “Experts shouldn’t adhere to a flawed vision of neutrality or the false idea that public health is apolitical. That’s what people are marching about.”

            Thus epidemiology is subordinated to ideology and quarantine becomes a tool of political enforcement.

            1. Steele was on Mark Levin’s FNC show Sunday night:

              INSURRECTION: Civil Rights Leader Shelby Steele to Mark Levin: ‘Blacks Have Never Been Less Oppressed’

              Society is responsible for us, because racism is so systemic. Well, that’s a corruption, and I know it’s a corruption, because the truth of the matter is blacks have never been less oppressed than they are today. Opportunity is around every corner. In all of this, no one ever stops to say, well, you’re unhappy with where minorities are at in American life, and blacks continue to be at the bottom of most socioeconomic measures. You’re unhappy about that. Well, why don’t you take some responsibility for that? Why don’t you take more responsibility? I would be happy to look at all the usual bad guys, the police and so forth, if we had the nerve, the courage to look at black people. To look at black Americans, minority Americans, and say, you’re not carrying your own weight.

              Steele was born January 1, 1946 and has seen more racism than BLM activists can even imagine, having been active in the SCOPE (Summer Community Organization and Political Education) Project, a voter registration project of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference conducted from 1965-66 in 120 counties in six southern states.

              OK, Boomer.

  17. One wonders if, hypothetically, a bunch of lives could be saved by a few nastily exploding trashcans in the midst of the riots, Tsaernev style.

    A bit of fear might get a bunch of these people off the streets and reduce the overall death toll.

    The local (50′ or so) death toll would rise quite a bit, mind you.

    1. I think I have about a dozen arguments against, could summarize as a terrible idea on many levels.

      a) You can’t count on only getting the reaction you want.
      b) Looks a lot like random terror, rather than specific or genocidal. Very likely has the downsides of random terror.
      c) Practically, you’d need a team near by. That opens up risks, that aren’t obvious with just ‘leave an IED in the middle of all that’. There are better things you could do with a team willing to take risks in a blue area, /and/ there are issues of cost effectiveness when it comes to operating in a blue area.
      d) It would definitely escalate things. And the situation is not such that there are no downsides to escalation.

      I know circumstances are making me very angry, inviting very rash thinking. Plus, today is not a great thinking day for me. So I get floating terrible ideas for lack of any more productive thing to do.

      When I try to catalog the issues, organize a systemic analysis, I see so many that I wonder. You sure you are not a false flag?

      1. If I was a false flag, I’d be a hell of a lot more subtle. No, I’m just pissed off and sleep deprived

        1. I certainly know that that feels like. Some nights lately I’ve had a really difficult time with the sleep.

    2. Yeah, that’s an incredibly bad idea for all of the reasons Bob mentioned, and more.

      Now, Israeli-style (having snipers identify the riot’s leaders and primary agitators, and then engage them with suppressed .22LR rifles) is, from my admittedly-limited understanding, extremely effective.

      1. The Israelis seem to have a lot of good ideas. I particularly like Israeli building-clearing: Don’t go through the doors – blow holes in the walls!

  18. Part of this is that they’re good at turning leftist insanity into a positional good.

    Maybe, Lego corp just got this email from me:

    I’d like to thank the Lego corporation for saving me a great deal of money.

    I am a 53 quant who spends a good deal of his disposable income on my two nephews and three nieces (I have no children of my own). When I saw Lego had troll sets tied into the new film I bought everything for my oldest niece who loves legos and the trolls.

    They will be my last purchase of branded Legos ever. I have bought Playmobile as well and have discontinued doing so. Your desire to virtue signal by asking for affiliates to not advertise first responder sets due to rioting in the US, endorsing the idea that all first responders are racist killers, is the perfect blend of corporate pretend virtue and money grubbing. You did not request affiliates to suspend all sales nor did you have the courage of the convictions you claimed to endorse by eliminating the sets permenantly.

    You wanted both, my money and the money of the mob. You had mine and have surrendered it permanently (and I spent a lot, as befits a rich, childless uncle). I hope the mob sees through your virtue signalling as well and only “purchases” from your store as this did in NY, via looting.

    I send no regards.

  19. when you are feeling isolated and besieged.

    Isolated & besieged? Moi? Not hardly.

    Last sane person in a world of fools and idiots gone raving mad? Is this a day ending in “Why”?

    “[The Left has] made themselves look cool and smart”

    Not ever, except to fools and idiots[see above]. But then I pretty much quit being a follower of fashion once I’d gotten over the horrors of Seventies polyester-wear, shoulder pads a Sopwith Camel could land on, and the never to be sufficiently damned mullet — male or female edition.

    What you’re seeing is the dropping of the masks.

    My buddies tell me that I should’ve waited
    They say I’m missing a whole world of fun
    But I still love them, and I sing with pride
    I like Constitutional life

    I won’t lose a friend by heeding it’s call
    For what is a friend who’d want you to fall
    Others find pleasure in things I despise
    I like Constitutional life

    My buddies shun me since I turned Conserv’tive
    They say I’m missing a whole world of fun
    I live without them and walk in the light
    I like Constitutional life

  20. But in the end we win, they lose, because they’re responding too and trying to influence people and events that exist only in their own heads.

    My fear is not their winning because you cannot reject reality this much and win.

    I still fear we are losing.

    Since the 70s at least all the institutions now failing have been corrupt, all the classes of people declaring their allegiance to revolution were already Marxist, and your own government was acting against you on many fronts.

    That is what I fear.

    That means medicine, including nursing, are gone between their behavior during COVID and then the same people standing in their gear with BLM signs. Public health officials saying the protests and riots are part of fighting COVID 19 because racism makes COVID worse.

    That means not just entertainers themselves, but the delivery services like Spotify, are gone.

    It means toy companies are gone.

    It means there exists nearly no one with a lever of power not ready in an instant to destroy that lever and everything connected to it in the service of a delusion.

    That means not just they lose, but we do.

    That means everyone does.

    Today I’m thinking we need to do less about building over, under, and around, but just under. It is too late for us and we need to leave something to be found in a century to rebuild our society. Not just literature, but batteries and electric lights (what did socialists use before candles?).

    1. Speaking of Spotify, can anyone recommend an alternative streaming service (other than Pandora) now that they’ve decided they don’t want my $$$? I rather foolishly discarded my stereo system in the last move, and my computer lacks and optical drive, so all that my music collection can do is just sit around and gather dust.

      1. My CDs are gathering dust after being copied to computer. That was three computers ago. Today I have about 44 GB (more than 32 days) with redundant copies on two computers and an 8″ tablet. The CDs remain, as a backup of last resort.

        I don’t do ‘streaming’ for that exact reason. If you don’t pay the bill EVERY F’N MONTH it all goes away. You’ve got nothing to show for all that money.

        1. Ditto. I burned our music CD’s ages ago. We still have the multiplayer CD unit in the house but we rarely use it. Christmas mostly background noise. The digitized music, is on 3 computers, 4 mini-SD cards (one for each phone and my 8″ tablet), two or 3 USB thumb drives, and not one, but 3 external USB HD drives. We do have some purchased digitized music, but it isn’t tied a particular service. Again, backed up and usable on all the devices listed. We’ve always done this, even when it meant placing a tape in front of a record player and manually randomizing what played.

      2. I do not, but I’ve been looking as well.

        You’d think there’d me a market for businesses more interested in money than virtue signalling, but if there is other forces are blocking entry.

    2. That means not just they lose, but we do.

      Remember the parable of the body parts and their argument over which should be boss. It doesn’t require brains, or heart, or vision or anything more than willingness to be an asshole.

      Remember also that survival isn’t worth it if it means letting the assholes win.

  21. Picking up on something posted last night at Power Line:

    There is a movement going on now, believe it or not, to abolish the police. That phrase is ubiquitous in social media and is being taken seriously by many Democratic politicians. What would the world look like without law enforcement? I suppose the Wild West before sheriffs got hired, only way more crowded, with vastly more criminals and a more depraved culture. And of course the same people who want to abolish the local police department don’t want you to be able to defend yourself, either.

    As an example of how far gone many Democratic politicians are, check out this screed by Aisha Gomez, a member–believe it or not–of the Minnesota legislature. It is titled “Police Abolition.”
    “We can and must intentionally walk away from a system of state violence that murders and terrorizes Black and Brown men to uphold white supremacy and capitalism.”

    Apparently there were no police in socialist nations such as the USSR, East Germany, and People’s Republics of North Korea and China.

    Why has that been kept secret?

    1. Dan McLaughlin has been addressing some of this on Twitter. Dan is a Never Trumper, albeit of good character, and writes for the National Review.

      He points out that torture and vigilante killings tend to be features of the processes that predate the development of professional policing. What he does not get, despite having part of the picture, is that it is racist to impose policing on ethnicities that did not invent it in its final form on their own. Policing is appropriate for Frenchman and Englishmen, but not for the Irish. For example. The real problem with the RIC auxiliary and specials was that such treatment was much better than the Irish deserved, and it was fundamentally oppressive of Irish culture. Policing is entirely alien to Dan, despite his own father being one, because the theory of race completely overrides lived reality.

      We can absolutely abolish the use of professional police forces. A general abolishment would not require amending the Constitution.

      Selective abolishment, exempting specifically black or brown people, would seem to require an amendment that changes the 14th amendment.

      1. Well, look at it this way:

        FBI: fully converged generations ago, partisan, and outright criminal in their own right. Also, their clearance rate for inter-state crimes is abysmally low, even after cherry-picking cases they’ll accept.

        DEA: about as useless as the FBI. Set up so they’ll lose their jobs if they actually accomplished what they’re supposed to, they were created to fail. So they spend their time hassling high schoolers, doctors, and legitimate pharmacists.

        Local PDs: mostly partisan and converged, in my opinion.
        petty crime: Many of them no longer respond to “petty theft” of some arbitrary amount, up to $1000 in some jurisdictions.

        major crime: even using the most-favorable metric of “cleared by arrest”, their clearance rate is pathetic.

        traffic enforcement: who loves ya, baby?

        drug enforcement: other than cutting locks off school lockers, it’s mostly a freebie they can tack onto something else.

        rioting: in general, haven’t covered themselves in glory there, either

        I’ll concede that “policing” is a good idea in theory, but what we actually *have* falls so far short of that ideal that they’re more of a menace to society than a benefit. And even the competent police are hamstrung by the courts; many of which are in dire need of rope and lamp posts. And a huge number of government employees who consider themselves above the law, and don’t hesitate to rub our noses in it.

        What police we have, aren’t working for *us*. Charlottesville, Berkeley, Portland, and others have shown the rot is extensive.

        1. DEA: about as useless as the FBI. Set up so they’ll lose their jobs if they actually accomplished what they’re supposed to, they were created to fail. So they spend their time hassling high schoolers, doctors, and legitimate pharmacists.

          No, this one I know something about.

          Very much not true, although I’m starting to be suspicious about the funding for the “libertarian” activists who mysteriously keep pushing stories carefully edited to make it look that way. I use to think it was innocent. When they keep making the same “mistake,” and never correct their original “mistakes” like describing someone who has been in jail for violent, drug related crimes on and off since he was 14, and who is currently 19, as an “innocent teen ager” because his lawyer says there’s no evidence against him this time, and to hell with checking the police report, victims or even witnesses.

          DEA is the majority of the force against the Cartels effectively expanding into the US, as well as pissing off every other organized crime group down to car radio theft rings, because they tend to step into related information.

          They are responsible for enforcing the policies the FDA puts out, and a lot of those are stupid. (I wouldn’t go to “most,” but we all know I think the FDA should be seriously cut back into more of a certification department, simply to reduce easily abused power)
          The DEA has no power over that.
          It’s exactly like getting pissed at the cops because they’re enforcing the speed limit.

          1. They had an interesting story years back on FBI Stories about the time the Secret Service found out their master counterfeiter was also a serial killer and kidnapper on the side. Took forever to get the FBI to help, which got criticized on the ep, so the Secret Service found a way to explore other ways to get this guy and find out where he was. (They found some of his serial stuff but had not yet found him.)

            1. I don’t have a LOT of stuff that isn’t you-probably-got-better-from-the-TV-show information, but from the little I’ve heard– the FBI suffers from Lawyer syndrome.

              You know how the joke is that 9 out of ten lawyers give the rest a bad name? Same thing, with full recognition that it’s not ACTUALLY 90% who are THAT bad.

              And suddenly I’m wishing there was a new, good version of the X-Files. (Illustrate it like Gargoyles, do some decent “at least call up the cubby guy from Ghostbusters and ask him about the family business” type research, and you’d be printing money.)

              1. This conversation reminds me of a line from “The Cuckoo’s Egg”, about a hippy who found himself tracking down a German hacker. He had a difficult time getting the FBI involved, but when he finally did get their attention, one of the FBI agents told him “Contacting the FBI is like taking the elevator: sometimes you go straight to the top, sometimes you get the shaft.”

                (One of the themes I remember from the book was Cliff’s … cognative dissonance … in discovering that there really *was* something to a particular politician’s notion (a notion that he had previously mocked) that there should be concern about stuff that isn’t classified on its own, but could be used to glean information if brought together with other things … things like receipts for parts that can be used to create missiles, as he saw them downloaded before his very eyes …)

                1. Ah, “Sensitive Information”!

                  That which is not classified, but which can give you a shape of what is hidden.

                  Yep! Love that stuff.
                  Best “lesson” to come to public recognition in WWII.
                  (And yes, it gets ignored, because old people said it, and because I Want That Information Waaaaaaa.)

    2. Notice how so many of the people who want to abolish police as inherently racist, or who, short of demanding establishment of police still denounce all cops as being inherently racist, are the same people who want to ban all private gun ownership, so that only those very same supposedly irredeemably racist police are legally allowed to have guns?

      I am not even sure Oceania’s Inner Party could doublethink its way through that one.

      1. Seem to recall reading a post today about some protesters who were confronted with a van barreling towards them . They screamed “get behind the police” and did. A ton of messaging there.

        1. There was a video on Twitter where these young brave revolutionary sorts had thrown something heavy or loud at a passing car. It stopped at the intersection and the first thing one of them gasps was “Call the police!” The owner of the car backs up, turns around and parks near them. Out comes an older fellow, armed with this curved double bladed monstrosity that I remember seeing in video games only, and proceeds to scare the ever living shit out of these idiot children by chasing them around, yelling “You want to throw shit at my car?!” He eventually drives off, but not before scaring these thug wannabes by making them think he is going to run them over.

          1. And he’s probably about to be arraigned without bail. and held in gen pop.

          1. And dude who ran away first is giving a living example of why “he shot the guy after the guy had run away” is NOT a valid argument– notsotuffnow ran until he thought he wasn’t under immediate threat, and then turned around to try to get a cheap shot in.

              1. One of the amusing thoughts of “call the police!” was the fact that, even with people calling the police, the video makes it very clear that the police weren’t going to get there in time to protect the protesters from the crazy person they just provoked.

                A very clear demonstration of “When seconds count, police are minutes away.”

        2. I honestly think that this is one of the factors that prevent certain cases of borderline police brutality from generating outrage. (The example I have in mind is the shooting of Castillo, who was reaching for his wallet after fulfilling the legal requirement to tell the police officer that he had a gun.)

          As troubling as the shooting was (and I remember a thoughtful video from Colion Noire discussing this shooting), I suspect the race-baiters didn’t latch onto it because Castillo was legally carrying that gun.

          Random thought: Why do I have the feeling that the commenters here are generally aware of more cases of police brutality (both justified and not) than the typical anti-police BLM protester? And not just of the existence of those cases, but how those cases were handled over time, and what evidence (or lack thereof) was available for each case?

          1. Another random thought: I can’t help but wonder to what degree this “cherry-picking” is going to come back and bite the agitators.

            I have seen the 17-second video showing Floyd not resisting arrest, and the 10-minute video with Floyd on the ground. I have continuously wondered about the time between the two videos: how do you go from “not resisting arrest” to “on the ground with a knee on the neck”? Are we going to see video where Floyd started to resist arrest? Are we going to learn of police procedures where the knee wasn’t there to constrain Floyd, but to support his neck? Are we going to learn of COVID-19 procedures that prevented the police from helping Floyd? When everything is gathered and brought to light, will it become clear that the officers need to be exonerated?

            And if the police are exonerated, will some of the protesters look at the evidence, and say to themselves “I protested over this?” Will some of the rioters say to themselves “I destroyed my community over this?” Will they then ask themselves “What about Zimmerman? What about Brown?” and discover they were wrong about those, too? Will we reach a point of critical mass that enough people discover such things, that they will rebel against the parties that deliberately mischaracterize these things, and summarily reject them?

            I don’t know when such a thing might happen, but the more things like this happen, the more likely there will be a day of reckoning, of some sort….

            1. Maybe one or two people once in a while, I don’t know.

              But I have read — I forget where — that dubious cases get picked over slam-dunk ones on purpose because it’s easier to maintain a controversy and foment conflict that way.

                1. I like his comment about how the less useful and more controversial a post is, the more attention it generates.

                  Leftists have cranked that up past 11.

            2. And if the police are exonerated

              adj. Freed from any question of guilt,

              Ain’t gonna happen. They may well be acquitted but the mob has already made up its mind and they will no more be exonerated than will O.J. Simpson. We are observing the forming up of the lynching party and guilt or innocence is no longer important.

      2. Considering that two of the cops in Floyd’s arrest weren’t white…

        Also, he tested positive for CCPlague. Supposedly in March.

        Pure speculation follows:

        What are the odds he spat or coughed on the cops? We’ve seen lots of idiots cough on police, or people just doing their jobs. We don’t know why he ended up on the ground. What if what was on the body cams were why the cops in that incident not immediately arrested? Did it show them acting as they were supposed to at first? Cops and first responders now are advised against resuscitation because of covid rules. What if that’s why they didn’t help him -because they couldn’t?

        The commie AG in that state is pushing for over charges, which from what I have been reading, will often result in lesser sentences or acquittal or dismissing the charges. He wants even more wildfires. This wasn’t enough.

        Tilt the kaleidoscope, and there is a whole different pattern.

        1. Also, because the BLM protesters in NSW could not guarantee that only the number of protesters they were applying for would appear, nor could they guarantee abiding by still existing quarantine social distancing rules, their request for a protest permit was denied, and the decision upheld by the supreme court here.

          Naturally they’re declaring that they will protest anyway.

          1. It has been said that, when LBJ passed the Civil Rights act, he did it with the intention that [blacks] would be voting Democrat for 200 years.

            There have been times which I have thought that he was right; however, I’m now thinking that perhaps LBJ was giving the Democrats the black vote for 200 years, with one caveat — if they could keep them.

            I can’t help but wonder to what degree events like this is going to break the black vote from the Democratic Party, and to what degree this will cause at least some of them to reconsider the Republican Party….

            And here’s to hoping two things: (1) that the Republican Party will never take the black vote for granted, and that (2) the Republican Party will be focused enough on individual rights and responsibilities, and the importance of valuing character over the color of one’s skin, that they won’t have to take the votes of any particular individual for granted, regardless of the color of their skin….

            1. There’s this guy on Youtube who goes around talking to random other black folks, asking them stuff like “Okay, y’all say ‘fuck America’ but where would you rather go? What country would you like to live at?” and there’s a moment’s pause and the guys he talks to say “Yeah… okay, don’t fuck America.” I saw it on the YT channel Fleccas Talks.

              And I hope yeah, the Republicans never take the Black Vote for granted (Frankly, a number of them need to get their heads out of their asses and stop helping the Dems with their little insurrection, and I am VERY disappointed with Mattis on that score… but being self-destructive seem to be a Republican thing, from where I watch)

              Then again, ‘Pubs seem to just… coast along half the time, thinking that if they just are a bit more agreeable, the zombies won’t eat them. IT IS SO FRUSTRATING THAT THEY WON’T STOP THE HOUSE FROM BURNING IF IT MEANS THEY CAN GET TRUMP. ARGH.

        2. It has been observed that Floyd was put out of work by the lockdown, and that the lockdown likely shifted him to the trajectory that led to the police interaction.

          I’m not sure how true that conclusion is, or what sources the person used who told me.

          1. This has been on my mind recently, too. Early on, when people have been saying “We have to shut down if it will save one life!” I have brought up the loss of life that could come from people being furloughed because their jobs were “non-essential”, and thus more susceptible to death by drug overdose or suicide. I even remember one person saying “Oh, but that’s just a mental issue — people have a choice in committing suicide, while people can’t choose to be sick.” I had to point out that yes, suicide is a choice, but it’s a choice that can be pushed over the edge by mental chemistry that the individual doesn’t have control over — and that losing a job can push someone over an edge they otherwise wouldn’t have gone over.

            I can’t help but wonder: Would Floyd be alive today, if he hadn’t been furloughed? Would he have been less likely to try to spend a forged $20 bill, had he been earning money? If he became belligerent because he couldn’t spend that $20 bill (I have wondered if this was the real reason the police were called, and not the original attempt to spend that $20 bill), would he have been less inclined to have been so, if he had a steady income? Would he have been less likely to have fentynal and meth in his system at the time of his arrest? If the police hadn’t arrested him, would he have died of an overdose or suicide weeks later?

            When the next potential pandemic comes around I really hope we can do a good job to emphasize: there’s no job that is so non-essential, that a government official can exclaim by force “Your job is non-essential!” I won’t go so far as to declare all jobs to be essential — but it should be up to the individual working that job to decide, and not some bureaucrat who’s going to get paid, regardless of what the outcome if their decision is.

            1. One of the apparent limitations of the Liberal/Progressive intellect is the inability to comprehend the principle of Trade-Offs. Instead they argue absolutes, in isolation, as if there were no costs associated with their advocated policies.

              The question of “essential” jobs, of course, is typically posed ad hoc, without transparency about the criteria — meaning that even if there are coherent, well-configured reasons informing such decisions they come across as quixotic. There is no need for balancing of interests because there are no competing interests recognized.

              We are dealing with zealotry approaching (and surpassing) insanity, a revisitation of the Terror.

            2. Would he have been less likely to have fentynal and meth in his system at the time of his arrest? If the police hadn’t arrested him, would he have died of an overdose or suicide weeks later?

              Did he set out, or on spur of the moment, decide to commit suicide by cop?

  22. The left is and has always been — even in their governmental incarnations, such as the USSR — good at agit prop (Agitation and propaganda.)

    And even that’s failing. And they know it. If they actually believed their agitprop were working, that they were winning the culture war, they wouldn’t be so blatant about their attempts at voter fraud. They wouldn’t be pressing so hard for Fraud-by-mail, for Early Frauding, for Same-day register to fraud and frauding. They certainly wouldn’t be so blatant about it to the point that anybody who cares to look can see what they’re doing (however much they might deny it, even if to themselves).

    I’ve tended to have a very dark view of the political future because we did seem to be losing the culture war (lose the culture war and the “bombs and bullets” war won’t help you; it’ll just provide a different form of tyranny). However, the current shrieking rage, the rise in violence, the attempted gaslighting that rioting isn’t really violence, and the blatant attempts to fraudulently sway elections (the difference isn’t the fraud–they always did that–it’s how obvious they’re being) tells me they don’t believe their own rhetoric. They’re losing on the cultural front and they know they’re losing on the cultural front.

    And that gives me more hope than I’ve had in, well, ever.

  23. Thanks, Sarah. I’m stepping away from the precipice. Mostly because of your excellent post, but also because that’s such a silly word for “the edge of something tall”..

  24. Ain’t this innerestin’ …

    Media outlets feed ‘fear’ to black communities, turning them ‘apathetic’ and less likely to organize against injustice
    Rapper Killer Mike doubled down on his recent criticism of CNN and other major media companies for stoking the flames of racial division in America and warned that news outlets could be hurting the Black Lives Matter movement more than they are helping.

    “It seems to me that the fear component of media, period — not just limited to CNN — has become one that features angst and anxiety, and people in my community are constantly bombarded by that,” the rapper said this week during an interview with the New York Times. “The fear, anxiety, and panic are going to be given to you, and things like kidney disease and blood pressure are already running rampant, and that’s not good for your physical health.”

    Killer Mike has been an outspoken advocate for the Black Lives Matter movement and vocal backer of the mostly peaceful demonstrations protesting the killing of George Floyd.

    In times of crisis, the media is largely not helping the Black Lives Matter movement, he said.

    “It’s not good for your spiritual health because you become helpless, and you become apathetic. It’s not good for your health in terms of actually mentally being able to think or be willing to get out and organize,” Killer Mike said. “You become trapped in the house; you become scared.”


    “So, in my opinion, the news media needs to be putting stories of hope and change out there because we can do a profile of every person on this phone and be more hopeful,” he responded. “You can do one hour of truth serum a day versus 23 hours of fear and panic. The news media is not doing that, and I feel that it’s time to be called to task.”

  25. Is this battle space preparation?

    GOP calls for investigation of Arizona lawmaker and son accused of voter fraud

    Arizona Republicans are calling for investigations into a complaint alleging the son of a state lawmaker had voted in Arizona’s elections for years while living in New York.

    The complaint filed Friday with Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s office alleged Daniel Jonathan Epstein, the 29-year-old son of Democratic state Rep. Denise “Mitzi” Epstein of Tempe, has been a resident of New York for several years but voted in several Arizona elections using vote-by-mail.

    The complaint shows multiple pieces of evidence that Epstein is a New York resident. Tempe resident Peggy McClain filed the complaint with the aid of local elections attorney Tim La Sota.

    Epstein has not responded to requests for comment, nor has the state’s Democratic party.

    Arizona Republican Party Chairwoman Kelli Ward released a statement Saturday regarding Democrats’ lack of a response to the allegations.

    “Arizonans expect and deserve the highest form of transparency and integrity from their elected officials,” Ward said. “Mitzi Epstein, who continues to push for mandatory all-mail voting in Arizona while ignoring the potential felonies happening right under her nose, must be truthful with the public and Arizona voters. All such allegations of voter fraud should be seriously investigated and, if proven true, the persons accused of these crimes must be swiftly held to account and brought to justice.”

    La Sota said Wednesday that a portion of the complaint regarding Epstein voting in both the Arizona and California elections in 2010 is not accurate and that they were reconciling voter records.

    1. After moving from West Virginia to Arizona, I kept getting requests to renew my voter registration in West Virginia. I ignored them and they kept coming. I finally had to send one back and say specifically “I no longer reside in West Virginia and I am no longer eligible to vote there” before they finally got the message. But really! Shouldn’t it have been obvious?

      1. No. Even single states cannot keep track. I was on books twice in OK when all I had done was move.

        1. It’s supposed to be handled by the county.

          I know that the Washington State DMV tells the counties– I also know that unless your county head is willing to be a serious jerk about it, stuff on the east of the cascades will clean up their rolls, and stuff to the west will not.

          Waiting to see if Dear Husband gets his ballot again this year; pretty sure the post office in Texas will at least not deliver it to the new owners of our old house.

    1. The book is already live. Less than 12 hours from when he got an email about it being rejected.

      Looks like he got caught in a really basic computer-based flagging, probably because (based on the number of propaganda type comments on Amazon) the Chinese are trying to flood all routes.

      1. It wasn’t an algorithm issue, which is the usual excuse when the tech oligarchs censor people who do not walk the party line; They rescinded the ban after a lot of public pressure after Berenson publicized their doing so, pointing out that they specifically referenced the CCP Virus and that the book was not allowed because it said things that did not agree with what the WHO claims.

        1. The offered image-of-a-message is exactly what you would expect from an automated flagging.

          If they wanted to block him for bad-think, they wouldn’t have used that message, they would’ve done something like a plagiarism flag.
          That one is EXTREMELY defensible, since the book uses publicly available information.

    2. Which makes this yet another case that means that, if Amazon ever actually does go all-in for the malicious censorship thing, people will not believe it.

  26. The leaders of these protests spend more time talking about black bodies than a thermodynamics professor.

    The vast majority of this group will get a chuckle from that. Maybe five percent of the protesters would have any idea that it’s a joke.

    That difference illustrates the problem we’re up against.

    1. The problem isn’t as much the lack of high level hard science education but the dearth of the application thereof. The guy that installed my furnace didn’t need to understand the niceties of thermal radiation, the differential modeling methods of insulation and heat loss per foot of duct per degree difference. But he knows enough that he understands the effective effects that first and second order systems would have. He needs to understand the results of all the higher level math. We don’t need just math heads, coders, and engineers. We need folks that have to work with their hands, have to use what these folks come up with and apply it. That is where you learn shades of grey exist. And that is something too many people do not get. It is either good or bad.

      1. Yeah. Engineering disciplines have associated trades like welders, electricians, and machinists, and there are physicists trying to push the limits of the fundamental theories engineers use.

        The hands on applied stuff is drastically important, but not anywhere near empathized enough by the wannabe technocrats that try to throw graduate degrees at everything. We can use people trying to figure out better theory, but application is where the rubber meets the road.

        Anyway, there were some twitter idiots that thought the solution to policing issues is making cops get a BA, in some sort of inter-disciplinary field including sociology, psychology, and I think anthropology.

        1. So basically they want them further indoctrinated in who to beat, not to stop the beating.

          1. I think they were just credential worshiping morons. Assuming that a ‘BA’, of all things, is worth a gnat’s wet fart. Not understanding the degree to which the four fields in question were garbage. Not realizing that splitting focus so many ways is going to decrease absorption and retention by significantly more. Not realizing people may value Sociology in the abstract, or if they learn it well enough to know the limitations of the field. But that learning the very basics, the early undergraduate material based on really old, profoundly flawed work, is going to see one discarding the stuff when it doesn’t work in reality.

            If you work for a couple of decades as a cop, those experiences and institutional knowledge of the police force are going to be much more influential than even the best of four year degrees. If you work for so short a time as a policeman before switching careers that you don’t develop the police mindset, the police force will be completely useless at a) punishing crime enough to minimize vigilantism b) stopping the vigilantes. And people would get too little a payback from the degree to be worth getting an otherwise useless degree for employment.

            These people are so stupid or so deeply entrenched in magical thinking that they would probably not get it if you made a sarcastic comment about not having any shortage of legal professionals if you simply admitted everyone to all the bars. Or providing universal healthcare by giving everyone permission from all the surgical oversight boards. Either that ineducable degree of wrong, or they have never had the experience to understand anything about college coursework. Purely rote, unthinking learners who struggle to recite the one times table.

            1. I think anybody presuming to prescribe what changes are needed i police training should first be required to spend sixty hours of ride-alongs so they have a chance to see what policing entails. Six hours a night for ten nights ought be ample experience for such enlightened prescribers to better determine the educational needs of police officers.

              As that noted racist Richard Pryor said, “Thank God we got penitentiaries!”

                1. I’m reminded of a little town in Utah that had a double murder because a niece-and-nephew-in-law decided to kill their aunt and uncle for their guns. Because this was the first murder in decades, this skewed the statistics of the town so bad that it became one of the “top-ten most dangerous cities to live in” for several years. (It may still be so, even now…)

                  But the life of a cop in that town would be very, very dull, most of the time.

            2. The shutdown has been hard on colleges. Maybe they want more captive students.

        2. Yeah, that shut up when it was pointed out that two of the four were already enrolled in the sociology program at UMinn,

      2. I am convinced that engineers, mathematicians, and even English majors, should have hands-on experience with things like machining, welding, and carpentry, in the process of getting their degree. This is part of the reason; another part is the possibility that gaining a skill like this will be useful for paying for school. Yes, it’s possible that some people will decide to go into a trade instead of finish their degree, but I don’t see that a bad thing, either.

        I say “even English majors”, but I’m also convinced that it should only be possible to graduate with a STEM major — although I’m also convinced that an Arts minor (or double major) should be required, too. After all, while useless for a career, knowing history and literature is also an important of the human experience.

      1. Aye. For every radiation (particle or E-M) there is a means of shielding. they might be bulky, expensive, and/or inconvenient, but they exist and are known. Simple, but not always easy.

        A simple shield against stupidity?

        1. Akshully, there is a simple countermeasure that is completely useless.

          People can’t make stupid decisions if there are no people alive.

      2. It would be nuclear, but too unstable to harness for energy. If we could keep them at a constant, controllable and sustainable level of outrage radiation, we might have an alternative to fossil fuels, and the only ‘negative’ result is head asplode.

    2. I misread it as black holes and laughed, does that count?

      Speaking of black bodies, it looks like the hierarchy of beauty standards in other cultures are now under fire.


      So, I guess thanks to this whole thing in the US, cultural standards of beauty that existed before Europeans got to those places no longer apply and must be condemned. Like, literally, pale skin has nothing to do with white people, it’s a beauty trope of pale skin = noblilty or royalty, because they did not have to work outside. A trope that is true even amongst EUROPEANS.

      This, coming from a woman who loves her golden brown skin tone.

      PCness kills cultures.

  27. We’ve been discussing whether Antifa is a domestic or foreign-influenced group. This “deceptively edited” video produced by Project Veritas probably puts quits to that:

    New Undercover Video Blows Lid Off Antifa Domestic Terrorists
    The first video dropped, in a series that will be released in O’Keefe’s usual slow-drip style, shows antifa organizers admitting that they go to events to cause damage and violence to Trump supporters. “It’s not boxing, it’s not kickboxing, it’s like destroying your enemy.”


    Antifa is well-trained and acts in coordination to start violent riots. A protester at a Black Lives Matter rally took this incredible video of antifa destroying a police car and setting it on fire in under a minute and then disappearing into the crowd to let the protesters take the heat. That’s not easy to do without a lot of practice. These are expert provocateurs, not amateurs.


    Caroline Victorin is the founder of Rose City Antifa and is married to an antifa leader, Johan Victorin, from Sweden. The undercover reporter says there’s coordination between European factions and U.S. groups. One of the trainers tells recruits “the whole goal of this, right, is to get out there and do dangerous things as safely as possible.”
    [End Excerpt]

    1. The Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti used to be pretty good at that sort of thing; they put a bunch of money and manpower into “peace movements”, terrorists, “student demonstrations”, and general hooliganism in the US during the 1960s and 1970s.

      The thing that bothers me is how many of these people we’ve caught on video, how many caches of bricks and bomb-making equipment. It’s hard to believe any credible nation’s provocateurs would be so unfamiliar with security cameras and basic police procedure, not unless they had assurances that nobody would be looking. But even then, there’s way too much private video out there; the cat would only be slightly delayed as it clawed out of the bag.

      For privately-funded agents, the same and more. Their controllers and paymasters would live under surveillance 24/7; no billionaire or corporate honcho is unfamiliar with security; their kidnapping insurance probably requires them to take courses about it in order to continue coverage.

      I’m tending toward “sloppy because the fix was supposed to be in.”

        1. And molotov throwers that get bailed out by high level government aparatchiks

        2. For most trust fund babies lawyers are relatively cheap; they are rather more expensive for poor people, in the same way that a $250 parking fine is pocket change for some and financial collapse for others.

  28. This really shouldn’t have to be said because it’s common knowledge among the law abiding, but given how many formerly sensible people have taken up the cry of “police brutality” it seems like it bears repeating.
    The police were created to fight crime; muggings, beatings, robbery, burglary, arson, rape, murder, drug dealings, prostitution, irresponsible drivers, and even the drunk and noisy. People who do those things are the people who get oppressed by the police; they are also the ones who complain most about it. You don’t want to be oppressed? Don’t do those things. Don’t protect and shelter those who do. Don’t walk like them, talk like them, dress like them, or act like them. There may not be much you can do about looking like them, so you’ll have to let that pass, but the other things, you can control.
    Don’t treat police like the enemy. Treat them with respect and cooperation, because they are doing a dangerous and dirty job so you don’t have to, and chances are excellent that after checking to be sure you aren’t lying to them, (what? criminals lie about it and try not to get caught? inconceivable!) they will leave you alone, whether you are black, white, brown, yellow, orange, green or purple. Yes, some of them sometimes get overzealous about it, just like some of them are lazy about it. That’s true in every occupation there is.

    1. Don’t walk like them, talk like them, dress like them, or act like them.

      This is much more generally applicable than the specific situation.

      1. Oh yes. I recall biting my tongue hard in college (round one) as a girl was complaining about the nice guys never asking her out or buying her drinks and so on. She was dressed in a way that would have made a Peachtree Street or North Avenue street walker say, “Honey, you need to cover up a little before you come to work.” It just never occurred to her that she might be broadcasting the wrong message.

        1. LOL

          Don’t see girls much on either. The only girls I’ve seen on the sides streets when I lived in Midtown working had…accessories.

          I honestly don’t know where to find them here, which given in the 90s and part of the aughts I lived where they worked is an odd sensation.

          As for college women, I remember very distinctly the fall where I went from seeing the new coeds at ECSU and thinking “damn, that looks good” to “do your parents know you’re dressed like that”.

          1. For me it was 35. After 35 college boys didn’t look “Oh, that’s nice” but were “OMG you idiot. Does your mom know you’re out without a shirt in the snow?” Eh.

    2. Part of the problem is that not all cops act in an appropriate fashion. George Floyd may have done something wrong, but he didn’t deserve what happened to him. Justine Damond didn’t do *anything* wrong. And yet Milwaukee tried to let the cop that killed her skate with just a slap on the wrist.

      There is an attitude in many police departments that encourages turtling up against complaints, no matter how valid the complaint is.

      1. Um, yeah. When you break the law, there *is* the possibliity that the police/judicial system will overreact and treat you worse than you deserve. S***tuff happens to the undeserving all the time. It’s part of the world we live in. And, once again, since it’s standard operating procedure for lawbreakers (in common with toddlers) to scream about how abused they are in hopes of getting away with something, it’s almost to be expected that some police officers, and even entire departments get rather jaundiced and cynical, and dismiss all complaints.
        Yes, complaints about police brutality or misconduct should be investigated, because sometimes they *are* justified, and who guards the guardians? But it does not follow that they need to be broadcast over and over and over and over in a one-sided, sensational, and almost certainly incomplete accusation, or taken as typical, or proof!!! of systemic racism, and it does not mean ACAB (All Cops Are Bad (to put it politely)). I do not believe it is merely coincidence that this is what nearly all criminals would have everyone believe. In this whole brouhaha I detect the delicate odor of dead rat.

        1. And, once again, since it’s standard operating procedure for lawbreakers (in common with toddlers) to scream about how abused they are in hopes of getting away with something, it’s almost to be expected that some police officers, and even entire departments get rather jaundiced and cynical, and dismiss all complaints.

          Where it becomes a serious problem is that once this became true it was all too easy for people who weren’t criminals to dismiss any accusation against cops as suspect. Add in screwed up training methods designed to get officers to not hesitate in shooting when necessary, but missing the all important “don’t shoot” part of the “shoot / don’t shoot” decision tree. Then add the besieged brotherhood, and the bad apples they can’t bring themselves to remove because “brother”. Also Drug War.

          Wrap it all up in a pressure cooker and let it simmer for a few decades, and what do we get? Officers who do a wellness check by sneaking around the back of a house, and shoot the house owner when they come to investigate the prowler, then can’t understand why anyone might think this was unacceptable. We get officers who when presented with obvious evidence of a bad shoot will bend reality faster than a college professor so that it can be literally anyone’s fault *but* the officer who messed up.

          This is a recipe for creating monsters. It says something hopeful about our civilization that in the most recent shitstorm there were still plenty of police officers who could still understand that the original incident was murder.

          1. “We get officers who when presented with obvious evidence of a bad shoot will bend reality faster than a college professor so that it can be literally anyone’s fault *but* the officer who messed up”

            Well, yes, that’s common behavior among other type of crooks, lesser and greater. It’s also part of the deceased rodent aroma around the whole BLM +antifa + media + privileged left screaming “racism!”.

            One of the remarkable things about Jesus of Nazareth was that he had his inner circle of disciples so well trained in looking for their own misconduct first before pinning the blame on other people was that when he announced that there was a traitor in the group, instead of saying “who?” and pointing fingers at likely suspects, they asked “is It I?”

        2. What part of “Justine Damond didn’t do *anything* wrong” did you miss? She literally did nothing wrong. It wasn’t “break the law, and there is the possibility that the system will overreact”. She didn’t break any laws. She called the cops. She was unarmed, and in her pajamas. And she was fatally shot and killed by one of the responding officers. There has never been any dispute over these basic facts.

          It took seven months for the city authorities to finally relent to public pressure and send the case to a grand jury. Prior to that, they were intent on sweeping it under the rug, and waiting for the public uproar to go away on its own. That’s inexcusable.

          1. I didn’t miss it. That’s why I said “Yes, complaints about police brutality or misconduct should be investigated, because sometimes they *are* justified, and who guards the guardians?”

            1. Your post comes across to me as “If you break the law, then the cops might overreact. And sure, the overreaction should be investigated. But if you hadn’t broken the law in the first place, then the cops wouldn’t have overreacted.” In the first paragraph, you talk about the cops overreacting in response to confronting law breakers. In the second paragraph, you again talk about the cops overreacting. And there’s nothing to suggest that your law breaker comments from the first paragraph suddenly no longer apply. Indeed, you even suggest that those who complain about police screw-ups should be wary of aiding criminals.

              1. Those that FALSELY complain about police misbehavior ARE aiding criminals. Just as women falsely crying ‘RAPE!’ are aiding rapists.

              2. I do have some personal experience in being questioned by law enforcement as a suspicious character while being innocent of any crime. It was never without reason.
                What I mean is that those who complain most about police screwups are likely to either BE criminals, or be defending them, or be naively unacquainted with the realities of police work,. That doesn’t mean that the police never screw up, because sometimes, they do. But I don’t believe it happens nearly as often as current commentary and discussion would have us believe.

          2. Fun fact. Some of the folks all in on this whole kerfluffle say said shooter was railroaded and shouldn’t have been charged or in jail. Once more suggesting it’s not about cops but about grievance

            1. This was something that had cropped up in discussion with me and hubby. He said “What did the guy do to end up pinned under three cops? He wasn’t resisting arrest in the security cam video but we don’t see what happened after that.” He was also not roughly treated initially. Pretending to be in distress is also a fairly common ploy, but why were the cops not believing him?

              Body cam footage, anyone?

              1. I have read in a few places that refused to enter cruiser and threw self to ground. That’s when all started and I’ll bet there was already a crowd surrounding. Play up for crowd, get good cell phone video and become a liability police want to go away.

                That political aspect is part, part is that manhandling him into cruiser is risky for all involved. My uneducated guess was attempt at pain compliance but the added pressure on chest caused complications. I am not convinced it was the knee vs the body weight on chest.

                And hopefully cameras were on and recorded. But will almost undoubtedly not be seen until trial. If positive the prosecution wont want to tamp down the rioting to help the mafia aspect of a conviction and defense. If negative the concern of thrown out because released. Defense just wants to play safe for clients and not risk judge finding a loophole to toss either way.

                  1. It’s the same thing as Garner, I believe. Underlying issues exacerbated by high risk situation and aggressive techniques. It is why the racial aspect of all this drives me up wall. The technique apparently wasn’t not taught. And having folks arrested lying on chest isn’t uncommon with weight on chest likely if need to be restrained. Higher oxygen need leading to SCA.

                    It’s like the issues when the taser first came out and excited delirium. There is an underlying problem with some general tactics that needs to be corrected. But we’re not going to do that because we’re gonna have to form battle lines

                    1. I saw the news of Minneapolis’ banning chokeholds today and thought: “Oh, so this city, run by liberal Democrats for the last fifty years, has only just now decided chokeholds might be dangerous? They’ve been okay choking people who aren’t on camera?”

          3. Keep in mind that one of the tenets of Critical Race Theory and something that Democrats are increasingly pushing is the idea that “oppressed groups” quite literally cannot be racists, nor can they ever be considered to have considered any criminal acts; i.e. determinations of what is and is not a crime is itself “inherently racist and oppressive” and the “oppressed” have a right to engage in such conduct. This is the basis of their justification of rioting, looting, etc. They actually believe that whatever is done by “the oppressed” can never be criminal. Conversely anything “the oppressor” does is considered criminal and invalid.

            As i have noted previously, Critical Race Theory is simply academia’s way of asserting Nation of Islam Founder Elijah Muhammad’s mantra that “the white man is the devil”. His views are mainstream ideology in the Democratic Party as shown by their embrace of his successor Louis Farrakhan.

      2. Yep. And the problem is that folks going nuclear on this type of stuff only further drives it in. Civilian review boards. In theory, great idea if you design it right (so that you minimize chances of biased individuals and have the necessary knowledge). In practice you got either the FOP board, the criminal grievance board, or the ‘why couldn’t he shoot the leg’ board.

        The closest thing I remember seeing to anyone giving a “pass” to this cop was saying that there needed to be a full investigation. And that if they charge they need to charge in truth not by mob (e.g. that BART officer who was either hung jury or acquitted of Murder 1 when whatever the reckless endangerment type homicide class was because the riots wanted Murder 1 which was not provable).

        But what we’re going to get out of this is that minorities have to be treated with a special hand, cops stop being as aggressive in those regions to protect themselves, and none of the policies, training and procedures that actually make these happen will change. Because the problem isn’t that cops have killed people unnecessarily and we need to find the root cause to ‘It’s cuz I’m black’.

        1. That is exactly what happened in Baltimore and the result of that speaks for itself. Of course for the Marxists that is a feature, not a bug, as they think it brings them closer to their glorious revolution.

        2. After the way the #MeToo Movement has experienced “Unanticipated” consequences, such as lost opportunities for women seeking mentorship (because no man in his right mind dares be alone in a room with a woman) you would think maybe possibly somebody on the Left might contemplate the excising of police i Black Communities and wonder, “What’s the worst that might happen?”

            1. That is also true for parts of some of our cities, Baltimore if memory serves. Remember attending an ACS convention some 20 or so years ago where we were warned “don”t turn left when you leave the center. That was our nation’s capital about the same time a US senator had the crap beaten out of him on his doorstep. We have been on the path to what’s happening now for decades and giving elements of our society a pass on their antisocial behavior hasn’t helped.

    3. I had a traffic stop where I did everything wrong. I scared that poor cop and his trainee half to death.

      Still didn’t get hurt– and not because I’m white, because they thought I was Mexican.

      Because I acted like a flutter-head and listened to what they told me to do, even when it was stupid. I acted polite, and they acted polite, and other than some serious confusion and embarrassment from being pulled over, nothing happened.

      License plate was partly covered, and the car I was driving looks a lot like a known drug runner’s car.

      And after I got home, dear husband explained that the stuff they’d told me not to do, which didn’t make any sense to me, but I did anyways?
      Was all the things that known criminals use fairly regularly to set up ambushes on police.

        1. Nah, it’s safe, just didn’t want to derail it.

          I acted nervous and upset– because I was, I was mortified at being pulled over– and not in order I:
          started digging through my car, twice, in different locations (registration and a screwdriver to fix the frame that was covering part of the plate)
          Pacing with obvious agitation (because that’s how I move, period– but it can be a cover to keep people from seeing the change in movement when you pull a weapon).
          Was messing with my phone and calling my husband– again, reasonable, but also used to call in the hit when someone is trolling for cops.
          Was extremely polite but bubble headed- which isn’t enough in and of itself, but is a very common cover.

          It’s like when you try to describe why someone was acting suspiciously– each thing can be explained, but as a whole…..

            1. All it took was assuming that the cops were not actively out to do me harm or offer insult, and trying to be polite.

              There’s basic rules like never giving permission for anything, but still.

            2. I’d be like that too. I’ve been pulled over, exactly once, when I was driving. First reaction was “HUH??????” Crime? Didn’t use my right hand turn signal to turn right, from the right hand lane, on a red light, after stopping, and not marked “don’t turn on red”. But I digress (It has been 14 years and hubby still gives me a bad time!) I didn’t have to dig for the registration & insurance, did have to unbuckle to reach glove box to get at it. My purse was actually in the passenger’s seat so I didn’t have to get out to reach in the back seat or open the back to get to it; I do know better than to actually get out of the vehicle until told to.

              I think I’ve been in the vehicle 3 times (?) when they got pulled over. The fun one was when the patrol officer pulled up to driver’s side, I had already dug out the insurance/registration, was handing it to hubby and stated: “We’re going to have to frame this one. No one is going to believe we got pulled over for speeding pulling the trailer Up Hill.” It was coming out of Oakridge, as the highway starts heading up the mountains toward the pass. The problem is the speed limit doesn’t change until you full cross the bridge, and the right way to get your speed up for the uphill climb is to start to speed up before the speed change. Officer had hubby dead to rights. Not a lot over the speed limit, but definitely over. Got off with a warning.

              My quip. Plus hubby recognized the officer’s last name, and asked him a question. Turns out we’d sold MIL Motorhome to the officer’s brother 5 years before, brother was using it and loving it.

              Wasn’t there for this one. Sis got pulled over because her, then 4 year old, unbuckled from her child safety seat to pickup something the infant had dropped and was screaming for. Sis was already in the process of pulling over & turning on her emergency flashers, plus telling the 4 year old to “not get out of her safety seat”, but not obvious that was what she was doing, when the patrol officer pulled her over. Now you have lights flashing behind the van. A stranger in uniform approaching the car and windows, an infant screaming (because she still doesn’t have what she’s lost), and a 4 year old screaming “don’t take my mommy to jail”. Sis wasn’t sure whether to laugh or bawl with the kids. I’m sure the officer wasn’t in much better shape; laugh, not bawl. Sis did get a ticket. Got dismissed when she took the kids to court with her to explain. Not the reason the ticket got dismissed, but although technically late, she was the first one in front of the judge, because the judge doesn’t like kids in the waiting area.

              1. My wife’s best friend was once pulled over on a New Jersey highway, at night, during a period when there was a scare up about somebody grabbing young women off the interstate. The officer was driving an unmarked car, and followed her for miles. If she sped up, he sped up. If she slowed down to get him to pass, he slowed down. When he pulled her over he announced he was giving her a ticket of ‘driving erratically’.

                She tore a strip off him that I doubt has completely healed to this day.

                He tore up the ticket.

                1. I had someone do that to me in Iowa when I was coming back from a meeting in Nebraska. They tailgated me hard. I locked the cruise control on 54 (55 limit) and waited. After ten miles, lights came on, I pulled over. I didn’t get anything besides questioned. The justification was “you were driving erratically.” No sheep, not with his high-beams in my rear view mirror for ten miles.

                  It turns out they were tailing me while they ran the tags, because I was on a heavily-used secondary drug route.

                  1. Once was stopped by Texas highway patrol between San Antonio and Houston. Reason–was driving 71 in a 70 zone. Yeah

                    1. Well, you know how boring it is driving between cities in Texas. Imagine doing that all day, every day. He had to find SOMETHING to do! 😀

                  2. Dan and I got pulled off when son was TINY on road between Charlotte and Columbia, on spurious claim of speeding (we weren’t.)
                    He ran tags, etc, let us off with a warning.
                    Because we were young and I was BEYOND pissy at them making me sit there with a freezing infant (because engine off) that I asked a lot of questions. From what he didn’t QUITE say we realized that:
                    a) it was a drug route.
                    b) we were driving a beater car from the seventies.
                    c) we both looked (dark hair, dark eyes) Mexican when glimpsed through car windows.
                    d) JUST before being pulled over, Dan was drinking something from a bottle (either milk or lemonade, or SOMETHING. He’s teetotal and caffeine puts him to sleep.) that probably looked like wine or beer, which apparently was another marker….

                    1. We took a highway route from I-5 south across the south side of Shasta (essentially) to drive down the east side of California to the NE entrance of Yosemite. Driving truck towing RV trailer. We stopped along the highway, relatively flat section, that continued into the forest, at semi-dusk. I did have a flashlight because while it wasn’t dark dark yet, there wasn’t a lot of excess light either. Our English Toy Spaniel needed a break (so did we, but that is an advantage of a trailer). Not like I went that far into the forest with her. California patrol pulled up behind the trailer & approached hubby with his hand on his gun. He talked to hubby. Had me shine a light on the leash and dog. ETS are brachycephalic, so she wasn’t out there searching for anything other than her best break spot. Turns out that is a known drug route, it is really important for tourists to not stop along that stretch of the highway. Patrol officer waited until we loaded up & headed out. Followed us a bit too.

                    2. The old, refined tactic of getting people to agree by making them all miserable. …I’ve never understood the thinking behind that, since in my experience that just makes one _less_ inclined to support the “protesters’” position.

                      There’s a reason the “name and shame” movement for drunk driving went away, and is only deployed very selectively.

                      The names and mug-shots make it clear this isn’t an American cultural issue. 😦

                    3. Hm, said comment was supposed to have a quote from D in front of it, not from an entirely different blog, which was copied at least four copyand paste comments ago….

                2. Only slightly related:
                  I HATE UNMARKED CARS.

                  A police car should be able to be identified as a law enforcement vehicle by something besides a line of lights you can only see when they’re turned on, just to prevent fake officers.

                  It’s like plain-clothes. For VERY limited use.

                  1. Yep. Slicktops (nvm true unmarked) nothing more than way to make less obvious for traffic. Make things more dangerous. Same with uniforms without obvious markers.

                    As for the impersonator issue, the amount of controls for lights is…well, low. When I had light permit was asked for it maybe half time I bought parts. And that was only because going thru major stores. Getting everything needed to light a vehicle covertly isnt hard.

                    1. I’m pretty sure I could mimic police lights well enough to pull someone over using computer modding gear and an afternoon, and you wouldn’t be able to tell it from the seal around my window unless I had them on or you were taking it apart.

                      If was going to actively hide it? One of those “sun shades” that have pretty, bright colored designs would work perfectly, and you’d only be using the lights to get someone to pull over at night, anyways…..

                  2. Fox, a buddy of mine from high school had a CB radio that was also a loudspeaker. He could imitate the police siren used at the time so perfectly he didn’t need lights to get someone to pull over.

                    1. Hubby had a whistle (long gone) on the motor of his ’58 Plymouth power wagon (also long gone). Whether it emulated a police or fire siren is debatable. What it did do is scare the heck out of anyone not expecting it …

  29. The left is and has always been — even in their governmental incarnations, such as the USSR — good at agit prop (Agitation and propaganda.) One of the things they’re really good at is giving the appearance everyone agrees with them and everyone wants what they want.

    And that last is true (as many people ‘here’ likely know already) even in the word “Bolshevik” itself. Behind all of its associations, glorious or infamous, the literal Russian word means (so I am assured) more or less exactly “majority guys.” Just as their main opposition during the critical years leading up to the “tipping point” where they effectively took over, the Mensheviks, were basically named “the minority guys” — probably by the Bolsheviks themselves.

    In other words, the above point is so true, this tactic is so deeply fundamental, it’s literally baked into their very name.

    Never mind how the actual numbers went the other way, all during the period when the actual outcome was in doubt. Never mind how a true “majority rule” would have left the non-Red factions in charge and Russia aimed more or less at some (either more or less functional) variant of parliamentary democracy.

    It’s all about the PR, the party line, it’s all about the narrative or the myth or the cult overcoming reality in order to change it. It’s not about grounding in any reality but their fantasy, to enlist others to help them turn it into a self-fulfilling prophecy (of “inevitable” doom, as we’ve had so many sad years of wide experience to learn).

    1. Yes. Bolshevik means “majority” and Menshevik means “minority”. The Mensheviks were a much larger group, and Lenin assigned the names to control public perception.

      1. We see the same effort to control language from the Democrats. They are now declaring that it is racist to use the terms looter and looting because those terms have negative connotations that harm minority communities”, It is why they are so insistent on terms like “undocumented immigrant” rather than the legal term illegal alien. Their effort to control language has the exact same intent that the Inner Party of Oceania had with Newspeak. The Democrats literally want to shape the language so that thoughtcrime is not possible.
        They are very, very dangerous.

        1. Those terms don’t do half the harm to minority communities as those “cultural practices.”

          I read with surprise that Chicago’s Mayor Lightfoot is pleading with Walmart to not leave their community; last I knew they weren’t letting those stores into the community — which was forcing a lot of Chicagoans to take the bus to the city limits to ship there.

          1. Don’t worry, if Walmart does stay they’ll be complaining about them and making their life miserable this time next year.

            I think they don’t realize there is a limit to what even major corporations will put up with for another sliver of profit.

            1. Is it wrong that I would be glad if that amazon distro center that went up was arson by the same folks they advertise for on their site.

              1. No. I went to watch a Prime movie and first thing up was their BLM banner.

                So I watched a Couriosity Stream documentary instead.

        2. The left does more to recruit for the Alt-Right than the Alt-Right and the Corporate Right combined.

          The more everything becomes racist, the more being a racist is seen as a meaningless descriptor.

      2. Well, you know, there are different kinds of “majorities” and “minorities.” For example, a majority of stock shares in the New York Times are held by Mexican mogul Carlos Slim Helú. But a majority of voting shares are owned by the Sulzberger family, so they (technically … should Carlos threaten to dump his holdings I’ve little doubt the Sulzbergers would dance to his tune) control the paper.

        Similarly, while the Director is, in most places, de jure in charge the Director’s Secretary is often de facto running things. And should Mr. Biden by some monstrous turn become President I’ve little doubt the country will actually be run by his chief of staff.

        1. True, but for Lenin, he used those terms numerically. He wanted everybody talking about the Majority Party and the Minority Party. He *knew* he didn’t have anything like popular support so he created it.

  30. Meanwhile in the People’s Republic Of New Jersey according to the NJ Star Ledger “there is a rally planned in the downtown Lakewood area at 1 p.m. Saturday. Police have already notified business owners on Clifton Avenue.” For those not familiar with it, it has a large Orthodox and Hasidic Jewish population.

    This is the same Lakewood where the State of NJ and local police have ruthlessly gone after Orthodox Jews for religious worship, even going so far as to break up and arrest participants in religious ceremonies and observances in private back yards. At the same time, New Jersey media, particularly the Star Ledger, lambasted the Orthodox Jews doing so as “selfish” and as being unreasonable and inconsiderate for seeking to observe their religious practices.

    Now the same State of NJ is going to allow a large protest in Lakewood by BLM and others, ON A SATURDAY, the Jewish Sabbath, while still banning Jews from gathering for religious observance of that Sabbath day.

    The State of NJ is thus actively discriminating against Jews while disparaging Jews as Jews.

    DeBlasio of course has done the same thing in New York, and we all know about the Democratic Party’s loathing of Israel and efforts to rewrite Jewish history, their support of rabid Jew hater Louis Farrakhan, and their acceptance of Al “”let them get their yammukkah’s on” and starter of pogroms against Jews” Sharpton.

    Since they are so adamant about speaking about “institutionalized racism” I think it is time the Democrats answer for their institutionalized hatred of and bigotry towards Jews

    1. > The State of NJ is thus actively discriminating against Jews while disparaging Jews as Jews.

      “LEAVE!” Before the property values tank and you’re stuck.

      For some reason the Lunatic Left has decided it’s open season on Jews, and that they can get away with unlawful acts in support of that. And they probably *can*. Even if it eventually makes it to the Supremes, it will take years, and the Supremes don’t feel particularly bound by “just a piece of paper,” so I wouldn’t bet the farm on them following the Constitution.

      It’s 1938, and Kristallnacht is coming. And somehow I’m stuck in some alternate America where this kind of thing can happen right out in the open with almost nobody saying “WTF?!!!”

        1. “Brent Spiner *and* Leonard Nimoy were Jews! Can’t you SEE the conspiracy?!”

          TRX: “Duh?”

  31. So, now we have two girls and some soy boy getting arrested, the girl fakes suffers from a panic attack and says her blood sugar is dropping and she needs her insulin.

    Yeah, as a diabetic sweetie, no you do. You need your glucose tabs, but I doubt you are diabetic anyway.

    Best part is the soy boy starts screaming “they are denying her her dialysis”.

    I don’t have a heart of stone, but I was able to stop laughing before I peed myself.

    1. This would be why the “I can’t breathe” pleas get, not ignored, but downplayed on priority list. For every case of true medical need like this or the Garner case there are hundreds, if not thousands of incarceritis. Is it a problem, yes, but the boy who cried wolf issue is still there.

      As for this, nothing inherent in arrest will cause hyperventilating outside of the adrenaline spike. And you have to be the one to control that. Especially when there are multiple arrestees. And the meds, well lack of insulin will take a while to kill you. Lack of sugar can, but I don’t believe I ever ran on a brittle diabetic under 50. Many cops have seen diabetic reactions. Probably run on dozens of responses for it from police myself. And honestly, people will roll eyes at the dramatists. We try to be professional, but in situations such as this I cannot be completely surprised.

      1. My point on the insulin is she said low sugar so she needed insulin.

        That is the opposite of how it works. Plus, I have crashed.(sub 50) and that isn’t what that looks like.

        1. Believe me, I know. Stabbed enough people for it.

          And I’ve only had a few diabetics that were at the need three other people to stabilize arm and ‘screw a line, hit with glucagon or i’m gonna be breaking ribs’ level which is more where I am referring. Ran plenty of calls but usually it was aloc rather than immediately life or death. If the pd had done their job right (not surrounded, have street access, etc) and this was actually a peaceful protest the risk of serious injury from hypoglycemia would be miniscule.

          Just a good example of why “I can’t breathe” wasn’t treated as an emergency.

      2. As was beaten through our head in the Navy– if you have enough air to say “I can’t breath,” you are not choking. You are panicking.

        (assuming it’s not a lie, anyways)


        Per Floyd’s blood work, he had fentanyl in his system. You know, elephant tranqs?
        Those can make it feel like you can’t breath.

        I feel a very, very dark, ironic amusement, honestly– after months of people screaming that folks who don’t like masks because they feel like they can’t breath need to suck it up, they are now printing “I can’t breath” on masks.

        1. Yep. Its again why I suspect it’s a confluence of issues that does need to be identified. This hold, even as used may be safe for 99.98 of populace but that. 02 exists and if it is assisted by overdose it is a higher likelihood for them and cops to be involved. But the closest will be that this restraint technique gets barred and we get back to either Rodney King style shampoos or we will let criminals decide if they want to be arrested.

        2. There are other situations than choking where one might say “I can’t breathe”, however. Such as shortness of breath, from asthma or whatever other cause.

          1. Or putting on fire fighting equipment, or ODing on alcohol. 😀
            In both of those cases it’s still not actually suffocating, it’s a sensation.

            One which someone who was actually so claustrophobic he can’t sit in a car would know about.

            1. Yes, I acknowledge that there are cases where the “I can’t breathe” sensation is not physical, but mental, and the solution is mental (deal with the panic and/or the reasons behind the panic). What I’d like is for you to acknowledge that there are also cases, such as asthma, where someone can be genuinely short of breath (and not merely due to panic) and yet still have some breath, enough to say “I can’t breathe” as a warning to others that he is suffering genuine distress. Because your “if you are talking, you are breathing” statement is right when it comes to choking, but wrong when it comes to shortness of breath. And so far I haven’t seen anything from you that indicates that you realize that: so far, from your statements (“if you are talking, you are breathing” not least among them), it sounds like you think breath is an all-or-nothing thing, and that you don’t yet understand that there’s such a thing as “breathing but not getting enough breath”.

              P.S. Perhaps I’m missing something in what you said that indicates that you do understand that; if so, I apologize for misunderstanding — and please do point out to me what I missed.

              1. You are not going to get a recognition that someone who is able to speak well enough to say “I cannot breath” is experiencing, at that point, a fatal shortness of breath due to lack of airflow into the lungs because I will not agree with that.

                It can indicate that you look for future evidence that they are in possibly fatal distress, but IF THEY ARE SPEAKING, THEY ARE BREATHING.

                Now, there are a lot of things that will make it so their body isn’t getting the oxygen it needs from that air– but since we’re dealing with the accusation that someone is being choked to death, not really relevant.

                1. I think I see the issue – when you say “choked”, are you talking about strangulation, and only strangulation, not asphyxiation as well?

                  Because yes, if someone’s airway is being mechanically cut off, then you’re absolutely right, “if you can speak, your airway is not being mechanically compressed sufficient unto fatal strangulation.” (Leaving aside the possibility of doing sufficient damage that the post-traumatic swelling can close off the airway and kill the person unless they get a tracheotomy or breathing tub shoved through.)

                  However, the presence or absence of incomplete strangulation doesn’t mean that there can’t also be other methods of asphyxiation at play, which is what Robin and I are referencing. And asphyxiation can, absolutely, be cumulative and fatal even if the subject is still able to speak prior to losing consciousness.

                  As an asthmatic, I have never had a medical or law enforcement professional tell me “Oh, if you can still say ‘I’m asthmatic, I can’t breathe?’ You’re fine.” Nor has any nurse or doctor ever told my darling man, “If you can say ‘I can’t breathe’, you’re fine, so lay on your stomach.” In fact, the response has been rather the opposite extreme, whether we wanted it or not, because they’re trained and often sadly experienced in just how fast a body can go from bright eyed and bushy tailed to dead.

                  Listening to a couple cops and prison guards discuss the takedown of Floyd, the general consensus was that the hold was just fine for a large subject… but that as soon as he was restrained, it should have immediately ceased, because it’s dangerous and unnecessary after the subject is restrained, and most especially after he was unconscious.

                  1. This is the sticking point for me where I think the cops can potentially be successfully convicted for manslaughter: the only reason I can imagine keeping a knee on the neck of someone unconscious is if the neck is being used to support the neck, and not as a restraint. I have a difficult time seeing why that would be necessary, though.

                    Time will tell. I want to hear what the prosecutor and the defense has to say on this. But at the same time, while I think the charge of manslaughter is likely to stick, I also can’t see how 2nd Degree Murder, or even 3rd Degree Murder, can be successful in this case. The required malice just isn’t there.

                    1. I also can’t see how 2nd Degree Murder, or even 3rd Degree Murder, can be successful in this case. The required malice just isn’t there.

                      Since manslaughter is not on the list of charges, the other two will be, the officer’s won’t be convicted … The fallout from that … They still lose their jobs. Do they also lose their pensions? Do they then sue the jurisdictions for wrongful prosecution & termination?

                1. I learned to push thru. And that I’m out of shape although my move and the lockdowns have not helped

        3. *waggles hand* Inside the Navy, that will almost always be true. Outside of the Navy, you run into body types that can get positional asphyxiation. The PT standards ensure that all active duty types are reasonably fit – in civilian life, when you get adults with, shall we say, protuberant stomachs and generous amounts of body fat, putting them on their stomach pushes that belly up into the lungs and reduces tidal volume.

          While not immediately dangerous, when left in a position like that for a long time, it will cause massive problems, up to and including death.

          …and this is why very fat people can’t sleep on their stomachs.

          1. Yeah, the position can kill you, and at the very least puts stress on your ability to breath. That’s true inside the Navy, too, at least ten years ago.

            But if you are talking, you are breathing.

            That’s why “able to [do specific exercise] and carry on a conversation” is a rule of thumb for low-impact exercise; difficulty talking is a sign that you’re actually using your lungs at a higher rate.

            There’s lots of reasons the dead-weight, anti-kidnapping-techniques aren’t popular and have to be taught with much emphasis on being kidnapped is worse— because it sucks.
            It’s hard to get someone my size into a vehicle if they’re using those techniques, without hurting them or putting yourself in a position for them to hurt you. Someone twice my size, it’s even worse.

  32. Now the same State of NJ is going to allow a large protest in Lakewood by BLM and others, ON A SATURDAY, the Jewish Sabbath, while still banning Jews from gathering for religious observance of that Sabbath day.

    Police have already notified business owners on Clifton Avenue.

    Maybe this isn’t what it sounds (just) like. But, assuming that it is…

    Okay, so either the local / State police there are very confident of their own ability and readiness to suppress any incipient riot before it really starts.

    Or else, they are (whether cluelessly or despicably) inviting BLM, Antifa, and/or assorted other bad-actors or “human shields” for bad-actors — to stage what will both be seen as, and on a smaller scale actually be, Kristallnacht II.

    Just imagine the side-by-side pictures, Germany Then vs. New Jersey Now.

    With the caption, “So who exactly are the ‘Actual Nazis’ again, now?”

    This is not merely “unfortunate” or “bad optics.”
    This is something that can easily cast a generations-long shadow.
    And once you pull the trigger, there’s no “do over” lever to flick.

    1. About 2% of the US population is Jewish by religion or identity. Last I checked, voted 80%+ Democrat/Liberal. A few pocket of Republicans among some of the sects. Shifting half those votes in a lot of the areas they reside would shift election results. NJ is one of those states, with between 6-9% of the population Jewish.

      1. I take it neither of you are familiar with Lakewood or how Orthodox Jews vote. The Orthodox community does not generally vote for Democrats. Lakewood in particular has a very large Orthodox/Hasidic community and hosts a number of Yeshivas and in fact has a large number of township council seats.

        Some of the incidents included arresting a Rabbi who was conducting a service in his backyard for family and friends on the holiday that remembers the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem by the Romans/ He was thrown down to the ground and arrested because the gathering was deemed to be in violation of Murphy’s decree. There have been multiple such incidents, all in the name of “stopping the virus spread”. That lockdown order is still in effect, with gatherings even outside of more than 25 people considered banned, including religious services and observances. Each and every enforcement of the lockdown against Jews was listed in the State’s “knucklehead report” (knucklehead is the term Murphy himself coined and used for the list of people who violated his decrees, and he even advertised on highway sighs “don’t be a knucklehead”). The Star Ledger and other papers had lengthy front page pieces about the dangers being created by the Orthodox Jews defying the governor’s decrees.

        So now, after all of that, they are holding a protest march through the center of town on the Jewish Sabbath, notwithstanding the bar on public gatherings. This is after Murphy being on record as saying that he considers some gatherings more worthy than others, when justifying why he is allowing these protests while banning protests against his lockdown orders.

        It should be noted also that there is a lot of bad blood between the non-Jews and the Orthodox community, who resent the Yeshivas and large Jewish population. The press feeds that as anything negative whatsoever involving any member of the Jewish population of the town is always front page news.

        1. Just to clarify, the concern is that the intent is to stir up animosity towards the Orthodox population. Since it is the Sabbath, there will likely be few Orthodox participating in the demonstration. That will be used to claim “the Jews” don’t value black lives, as shown by the “disregard for the community during the pandemic” and that a Kristallnacht like rampage on Jewish businesses will be characterized as justified rage. The NJ Democrats are very much willing to throw Jews under to curry votes with what they view as “more oppressed communities”. T

          hey also have a strong strain of anti-Semitism in the party. Recall it was not all that long ago that Senator Booker posed with a lady wearing a shirt that had a map of “Palestine” that included the entirety of Israel and sought to “free Palestine-from the river to the sea” (i.e. from the Jordan river all the way to the Mediterranean, i.e. Israel) Thus we have a Senator who does photo ops with people who call for the destruction of the one Jewish nation in the entire world.

          1. Additionally, note that World Atlas reports

            New Jersey has the largest Muslim population by percentage. Muslims make up 3% of the state’s total population.

            Consider also that there is considerable interaction between the Muslim and Black communities. Also recall that it was primarily the Orthodox Jewish community targeted by Al Sharpton’s past riot incitement.

            It isn’t hard to see how this house of cards stacks up, nor how it will fall.

        2. I was going to point out that the Jewish-Jews– like the non-cafeteria-Catholics– tend to be treated rather differently than their culturally-religious-but-political-Democrat-first counterparts.

          Even if the ones who aren’t just cultural are still Democrats, it’s that it’s not priority #1 that makes them undependable, from a political stance.

          1. Sadly a lot of the non-observant and the liberal Jews fail to understand that the left will happily send them to the camps and gas chambers right along with the non-liberal and orthodox Jews.
            Recall that during the whole Occupied Wall Street campaign which Team Obama endorsed, there were many posters that attacked Jews as being the 1% of the 1% and singling Jews out for particular vitriol.

            We can see where the Democrats have been heading by just looking at the UK Labor Party, where their former head laid wreaths at the graves of the terrorists responsible for the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre and who called Hamas and Hezbollah, both of whose charters openly call for worldwide genocide of Jews, “friends”.

            There is a reason why I have been describing these people as CommuNazis.

        3. Depending on where you’re looking, Orthodox is between 10-22% of the Jewish population in the U.S. They’re the Republican-Conservative voters of the Jewish population. I’m quite familiar with them. I grew up mostly in North Jersey.

          Reform and nonreligious Jews over 60%, reliable Democrat votes. Conservative Jews comprising the rest. More evenly split. If the reform and nonreligious begin to realize they’re next- the voting shift may occur.

            1. That makes me both want to laugh, and to cry. I do not like living in Poe’s Law.

    2. So, the left is crying “FASCIST” while treating the Jews poorly?

      Sarah’s shocked face needs a rest already.

        1. He isn’t entirely unreasonable — he’s been there long enough to recall how they started the Crown heights riots thirty years ago.

          (Before anybody tries to post a correction: /sarc )

    3. I’m not sure even a sizable minority would care. Between the equivalent of cafeteria catholics, the ones that are wholly invested in the happy face fascists of the current Social Democrat party, and the ones that will just follow with the ‘It’s ok, they were oppressed too’ the zeitgeist will be to treat the fascists as not the ones that rioted and broke the windows but the righties that didn’t grovel hard enough and caused it.

  33. What you’re seeing is not the coming apart of America. What you’re seeing is the dropping of the masks.
    Yes, this. Masks are falling off, Toto has ripped off the curtain. The stories are changing so quickly the adherents are getting whiplash. My ongoing hope is that, while I do not under any circumstances expect any sort of public mea culpa that there will be at least a quiet retreat by those intelligent enough to see that they’ve been played and played thoroughly. Of course, the loud ones will still stand athwart the wreckage of their ideological dreams and scream epithets at everybody else. And, yes, sadly, there will be those who will listen to and believe them. But, I think that while they will be loud, they will be few in number (relatively speaking) and be ignored.

    1. Years ago, i recall not where, somebody put up an excellent essay about the power of the MSM being the power to Ask (not answer) Questions. For an example of its workings, consider Chris Cuomo of CNN, doing clownishjocular interviews with his incompetent brother, denouncing protesters against the lock down (which he notably got caught ignoring), and defending the BLM protesters and their rioting friends — wholly secure in the knowledge that he will never be called to account, never have to answer for his contradictions — because he is the Inquisitor, never the Inquisitioned.

      Those of us of a certain age will recall Col. North turning the tables in his Senatorial hearing, challenging his accusers and putting them to the question.

      The power to demand answers is great, especially in an era when so much important activity occurs on the public stage. One reason the MSM seethes so much under the pressure brought by the current White House Press Secretary is that she does not meekly answer their demands to know whether Donald has stopped beating Melania, she demands to know whether their editors have ceased beating them.

  34. I notice that the “solution” is for more Civil War monuments to come down. Maybe instead of trying to erase the history of that period, the left should be taking the time to learn how it happened and why a civil war is so terrible.

    1. Really, now, learn from the Civil War? Why do you think it’s so critical to memory-hole it? Besides, how can blacks still be As Good As Slaves To White Capitalist Oppressors (thanks, NYT’s 1619 Project!) if our great-great-grandfathers already abolished slavery some eight-score years ago?

      As to being in a “bad novel,” Sarah? I wouldn’t cast that aspersion on Himself; we are just getting bloody well tired of our current subplot and can’t see to the next page from down here in the comma splices. But we’ve been given galley proofs of the last chapter, and the Author says the righteous win. Chin up!

      1. “But we’ve been given galley proofs of the last chapter, and the Author says the righteous win.”
        I think it also says they’ll get the hell scared out of them first…

      2. I find interest in those galley proofs fascinating. One of the more shocking aspects of my move from a mixed Presbyterian and Southern Baptist upbringing to Eastern Orthodoxy by way of the RCC is the decreasing interest in them (they are the only book not in the regular reading of Eastern Orthodox). The lack of the millennial strain I experienced in JHS going to a Southern Baptist bus ministry in East Texas was shocking at first, but is also a big part of why I stayed, or maybe, a symptom of the reasons I started the move in the first place.

        Then again, instead we get wild Russian theologians to make up for it with ideas like when He returns to finish His word there will be no one of faith left alive.

        1. Book of Revelation never got as much liturgical use in the East, and they were slow to pick it up and write commentaries. There’s a nice one by Andrew of Caesarea, though.

          The whole point of Revelation is that it draws out a lot of connections between OT (Septuagint) and NT, and connects Mass to Heaven and eternal life, which is comforting in hard times. A lot of people do not get this.

          1. I have never heard the last. Nearly all my Revelation exposure has been along the lines of Late Great Planet Earth and Left Behind. I never got how that was supposed to help me lead a more Christlike life (which, in case it isn’t obvious, is something I struggle with 110% of the time).

            1. herbn, you might enjoy “The Lamb’s Supper: The Mass of Heaven on Earth” by Scott Hahn. It’s basically a commentary on Revelation that draws out the relationship with the OT and explains that much of the book is the heavenly counterpart of the Eucharist. Another good one on this topic is “Jesus and he Jewish Roots of the Eucharist” by Brant Pitre. Both are easy reads and could not be more different from Hal Lindsey. 😉

              1. Well, if you’re Christian, it’s always persecution o’clock somewhere. So keeping in mind that stuff happens, and that Jesus is always still reigning and coming to the rescue, and we’re called to persist and overcome in Him…. Yeah, I think that helps.

                (And the Mass stuff also.)

                1. Oh, and there are some excellent Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox seminary publishers that are putting out English translations of the Fathers.

                  St. Vladimir’s is one, and they are having a 50% off summer inventory sale that ends tomorrow.

              2. I grew up Southern and semi-charismatic (we went to a Church of God, but I didn’t like it). I’m convinced that half the interest in Hal Lindsey and the like comes from repressed geek readers. 🙂

      3. Are you sure that one of the angels didn’t get their writing hand in… and HIMSELF will have to fix the plot when he comes back with his cup of coffee?

        1. Heterodox….. but funny! I confess a bit of agnosticism on the details, but in the main, we know who wins. The fun of the story is discovering how.

          1. What makes me certain the Revelation is true prophecy, is the description by the author of “something like a mountain on fire being thrown into the sea”. (8:8). John sees a vision of something we could understand now. In his time they knew nothing of asteroids.

            An asteroid falling into the ocean would also produce effects also described, “darkness”, “stars falling” “hail and fire”, “a third of the trees were burnt up”. We did not understand the results of an asteroid strike, until just the past few decades. For a writer nearly 2,000 years ago to have such a true vision should worry us, and make us hurry up the planetary defense. Also: Do not let anyone build an observatory in that Australian community called Wormwood, until the nukes are ready. No matter where you dump a two mile wide asteroid in the ocean, I suspect a one third death toll is conservative.

            So Revelation is true prophecy. The critical question; is it a prophecy that can be changed, or are we stuck with Wormwood? Since Jonah indicates that prophecy can be averted, there is hope we can divert Wormwood if we repent in time. Note this message offers hope in our time, as we seem headed into a different kind of abyss. Be not afraid. The message for today.

    2. A better solution would be half-way flights on Air Pinochet for antifa leaders, funders, and government co-conspirators like Keith Ellison.

      1. Are we sure that is 4Chan?

        It was the punishment meted out to collaborating women in France after the war, and I figured some overeducated Antifa prof wanted to see white women self humiliate as Nazis.

  35. A hundred years ago, where the Democrats won state and local office, wealthy black neighborhoods might be burned. The burnings destroyed years of capital accumulation by blacks, and took decades to recover, if it ever did. Zero years ago, where the Democrats won state and local office, wealthy black neighborhoods are being burned. The burnings destroy years of capital accumulation by blacks, and will take decades to recover, if they ever do.

    I actually do not consider this an example of the unchanging nature of the Democrat Party.

    Critical Race Theory is the key element. It is a functional theory for games of racial power politics. But what if your racial power base isn’t enough to sustain a political power base in whatever multi-ethnic polity? 1/8th is flat out not enough. The answer has been building a coalition beyond that one eighth. But Asians and Hispanics are ‘too White’ for the Critical Race Theory purists. CRT as applied in practice relies on a substantial number of White allies. Some of those White allies have internalized CRT to the degree that ‘whites are evil and racist’ is treated as license to be evil and racist. Hence the allies cheerfully burning down the black neighborhoods.

    Decent chance the burnings are going to break apart the coalition built around CRT. Decent chance the white allies will find themselves turning coats to active white supremacism.

    Thank you very much, Mister Obama.

  36. I noticed that all of the arguments against the second amendment have disappeared especially the one on limited bullets. (just a thought)

    1. For people whose first goal is to rule, while they might prefer to rule a first world nation, they’ll settle for a third-world poophole if that’s what it takes to be in charge.

      Satanists of the Miltonian mold to the end.

      1. The Democrats would gladly burn America to the ground, so long as they wind up squatting on top of the ashes.

    2. The economist Dani Rodrik asks a question in one of his books on globalization: Would you rather be poor in a rich country or rich in a poor country? He asks it of his grad students and inevitably they go for rich in a poor country. Then he points out what the average wage is in third world countries, as well as infrastructure, clean water, food sources, etc. He continues with what people at all income levels have access to in rich countries. They all change their minds by the end of the discussion.

      1. Having actually lived in a poor country (where I was, relatively, stinkin’ rich), I immediately went for “poor in a rich country” before reading the rest of the comment. 🙂

        1. We would do well to remember that the poor of the United States (and a good portion of the world as well) has riches that even the greatest of the Medieval kings didn’t have access to!

  37. Over on PJ Media there is a story about the Minneapolis City Council considering disbanding the city police. Naturally everybody commenting assumes Moonbat reasoning at work, and they’re probably right, but might that be a way to void agreements with a Police Union that keep thug cops from being fired? I seriously doubt that that is on the so-called minds of any of the Minneapolis City Council, but I am intrigued by the idea.

    Anybody want to chew it over?

    1. Given that ringleader of the effort is radical leftist Antifa praising Jeremiah Ellison, son of equally radical Keith Ellison, it is pretty clear that their desire to simply get rid of police entirely is genuine.

      1. Oh, I have little doubt this bunch mean to do away with police entirely. I was wondering if the tactic COULD work for a less Fascist Left bunch who wanted to take control of a toxic police force back from the Union.

    2. Speaking of government unions and such, the pink foil hat brigade sees universal mail-in voting as a way to perpetuate their glorious rule forever. One potential problem though is that the US Postal Service is controlled by the federal government. Wonder if the President could write some special rules for handling mail-in ballots requiring deliverers to verify only valid residents receive ballots and penalties for carriers who ignore that rule. I seem to recall there already is such a law. Used to be anyway. Maybe there could also be rules about handling large bulk dumps of ballots. Maybe a whole bunch of new inspectors would be called for just for USPS election handling. The repubs need to figure out how to put poison pills in what the leftists demand to be passed just like the dems have done to them.

      1. The Democrats also tread on dangerous ground if they think that mail-in ballots can save them: if I recall correctly, a Republican has recently won a special election for a Representative district in which (1) a Democrat has been holding that seat for some time now, and (2) the ballots were mail-in ballots.

        For some reason, Republicans in this election were particularly motivated to turn in their ballots.

        I can’t remember who said it, but someone had a title of a book that said “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat!” The way these riots are progressing, there’s a very strong chance that it’s not going to be close….

        I still oppose mail-in ballots, though.

          1. The Rocket Launcher, Plasma Rifle and BFG-9000! I’ll take a Plasma Rifle 🙂
            If you call 911 and tell them somebody with a gun is breaking into your house, they will send two cops in 10 or 15 minutes. If you tell them somebody is breaking into your house and YOU have a gun, they will send 10 or 15 cops in two minutes.

            1. I remember an anecdotal story of a guy who tried to call the police about people breaking into his shed. The dispatcher said that they couldn’t be there for half an hour or so.

              After a couple of minutes, the guy then said “don’t worry about hurrying over, I just shot the people breaking in” and the police came in just a couple of minutes, and caught the thieves red-handed — but then said “I thought you said you shot the thieves!”

              And he said “I though you said you couldn’t be here for at least half an hour!”

              1. After a couple of minutes, the guy then said “don’t worry about hurrying over, I just shot the people breaking in” and the police came in just a couple of minutes, and caught the thieves red-handed — but then said “I thought you said you shot the thieves!”

                And he said “I though you said you couldn’t be here for at least half an hour!”

                Then he was asked “What were you going to shoot them with?”

                At which he replied (not being a idiot, obviously) “Point my finger at them and say ‘bang bang’?”

    3. I think the City could call a re-certification of the union, especially given recent Supreme Court rulings (Janus?)

      That might not achieve the desired results but disbanding would remain an option.

      OTOH, Power Line reports:

      Today at a rally in Minneapolis, Boy Mayor Jacob Frey addressed a crowd that was even more left-wing than he is. Dutifully wearing a mask, he told the crowd that he doesn’t favor defunding the Minneapolis Police Department.

      I’m actually not sure what “defunding the police department” means. I take it that these people really want to live in a city that has no police services. So, if you see that someone is trying to break into your house, what do you do? One possible answer is, pull out the semiautomatic pistol that you keep next to your bed, and blow him away. But I don’t think that is what these people have in mind. To put it politely, I don’t think they are serious.

      But even Jacob Frey’s modest engagement with reality was too much for Minneapolis’s leftists. They booed him off the stage …

      Frankly, any city which would take such a step deserves what would result. I kind of wonder who they imagine would provide security for city officials, who would direct traffic, who would collect property taxes, who would enforce bans on plastic straws and all the myriad other little chores the police tend to perform.

      Perhaps they’re engaging in a bait and switch, planning to eliminate the police while expanding the powers of the court bailiffs, county sheriff’s department and hire issue letters of marque for collection of taxes and fines?

      1. Oh, they’d spend our money on their OWN security, never doubt that for a second. Just like they spend our money on their health care and solid-gold pensions. They’re not going to live under the conditions they impose on US!

  38. Saw some black guy named Max interviewed on the street (in Oakland I believe) who summed it up best, “Why does a black life only matter when a white man takes it?”

    1. You (and he) are not following the logic of identity politics ans collective guilt. Obviously, the lives of Black men are property of the Black Community and only they may take them. White men taking Black Men’s lives is a violation of the principle of separation of races or something.

      This may be merely a temporary situation, such that when Black men have taken sufficient of each others’ lives to catch up with those taken by whites since 1619 it will be permissible for White men to once again be permitted limited hunting rights.

      BTW – does anybody know whether the store where Floyd was trying to unload that bogus $20 was owned by a White person or a Black?

  39. Just heard from Mama Raptor: there are multiple credible reports that a riot — not a peaceful protest, but a riot, as is @$$holes from the city are bussing out to burn sh*t down — planned for tomorrow near where we used to live. And probably where we’d be doing our food shopping if we still lived there.

    Well, if nothing else good comes out of this insanity, at least Mama Raptor now a) understands why I own a “high-power assault weapon” with “thirty-shot high-capacity clips” and is giving serious thought to buying one of her own. I think it’s finally hit home that just because she and Papa Raptor don’t live near a major urban area doesn’t mean they’re safe from mass violence.

  40. I see our PM here in Canada is kneeling at BLM protest. Nice try Trudy, but we all remember your multiple blackface pictures.

  41. Jiust a note. There are supposed to be a million “protesters” coming to DC. Rumor has it that they are going to try to invade the White House and hope that someone gets hit by the military, e.g the pregnant woman incident that SAH has talked about before, to cause outrage. The people behind this have members the trained and fought in Syria. Stay safe.

    1. ehh, if they are depending on Antifa to fill out their million, they are going to end up with 10,000. No Starbucks to smash.

      1. I regret not being able to recall where I saw the headline, but apparently a Hells Angels chapter offered to greet a protest march only to be left waiting.

        Searching on it produces multiple results but nothing corresponding to a site I’d have been at … but here’s one sample:

        REPORT: Antifa Chased Out of Town by Hells Angels Biker Gang
        Biker gangs reportedly converged to prevent Antifa from protesting in California town
        According to various reports on social media, several biker gangs coalesced to prevent an Antifa demonstration from taking place in Placerville, California.
        Given the recent George Floyd protests to have erupted throughout the US, various cities have been destroyed in parts due to rioting.

        Spearheaded by Black Lives Matter, the George Floyd protests have devolved into rioting and looting by thousands of attendees.

        Far-left anarchist agitators Antifa have been apportioned significant blame for steering some of the chaos present over the weekend.

        A tweet containing a Facebook post from the small California town telling how the infamous Hell’s Angels united with other gangs to reportedly repel an Antifa demonstration.

        The tweet reads: “ANTIFA has threatened the town of Placerville, CA . They said if anyone stands in their way “there will be consequences.“ So Hell’s Angels and the Mongols biker gangs have accepted the challenge ! …

  42. Thanks for this post. I’m middle aged, I work in criminal justice and I had been in utter despair over the past several days. It seems like society is falling apart before my eyes, the social contract tossed into the shredder. I don’t know what has been worse: seeing every single one of the “institutions” meant to maintain and protect civilization surrender to the youth mob or seeing what had once been seemingly reasonable people turn into Red Guards or Madame Defarges. This isn’t a 1968 reboot, this is more like the Cultural Revolution, complete with children publicly denouncing their parents on TikTok. (Ironic TikTok is Chinese, no?) Nordstrom’s apologizes to the LOOTERS of its stores while it expects me to still hand them money before taking custody of merchandise. People are expected to humiliate themselves to repent for their “whiteness.” I know where that leads…public humiliation was the first thing the Nazis did to the Jews. Just last night I read about a Catholic high school teacher fired by the Diocese of Fresno for the crime of condemning the rioting, looting, and violence on his social media.

    Like I said, the institutions have FAILED. There are no adults in the room. Everyone is afraid.

    There are bad cops, corrupt departments, and sometimes omertà among the blue brotherhood make it difficult to get rid of the bad apples before they spoil the bunch. There are people who shouldn’t be cops and sometimes they don’t get adequate training. Siege mentality can occur after years of working the mean streets. Compassion fatigue is a real thing in the helping/public service professions. That said, what would you get in the place of “defunding” or abolishing the police? Vigilantes and lynch mobs like in the wild west? Sharia squads? Protection from drug cartels, the mafia, and street gangs? Walling off entire communities and hiring private armies like the rich do in South Africa? Sending in female social workers to counsel a 6’4″ knife-wielding man high on bath salts? I’ve said for years the left loves criminals but now they’re flat out telling us to our faces they are leaving us to the mercy of rapists, child molesters, and serial killers. Maybe if one of the Instagram revolutionaries finds a Night Stalker breaking into her home one night she can call Megan Rapinoe or Taylor Swift to come over and save her.

    1. You can be sure that if there is a spot of bright hope, the media will mostly ignore it. Gloom, doom, and dystopia sell. Borrowing from the OT, (1 Kings 19:13-18) Elijah thought he was the last man left who hadn’t gone after Baal, and God told him that there were seven thousand others. Not a very large number, to be sure, but he wasn’t alone. Even I can count a lot more than seven thousand who haven’t sworn allegiance to Antifa.

  43. Hmmmm …

    Biden is facing a real enthusiasm problem in home state of Pennsylvania
    By Salena Zito
    PITTSBURGH — Despite a deadly pandemic, staggering unemployment and racial unrest, Pennsylvania voters showed up in record numbers to take part in their presidential primary Tuesday — even though the results were a foregone conclusion.

    “We are already looking at a 40 percent voter turnout, which is what we hit in 2016 where there were still contested races on both sides of the aisle,” said Rich Fitzgerald, Allegheny County executive. “These numbers are way off the charts.”

    And judging by the numbers so far, President Trump drew voters out in force. With almost 98 percent of districts counted, Republicans have cast more than 861,000 ballots for Donald Trump, with 734,000 Democrats voting for Joe Biden. And while it’s still unclear how many people voted in person versus mail-in ballot, some counties are reporting that Trump drew plenty of supporters out of their homes.

    Most voters who cast in-person ballots in the suburban Pittsburgh county of Beaver, for example, were Republicans, said Daniel Camp, a GOP elected official there. “Republican turnout in person outperformed Democrat turnout in a county where there are 10,000 more registered Democrats,” Camp said.

    Voting in person, especially given all the risks of the times, demonstrates a high level of enthusiasm, said Jeff Brauer, Keystone College political science professor.

    “The Republicans had even less to vote for than Democrats did,” Brauer said. “There were no statewide contested races on the Republican side — the Democrats at least had the six-person Auditor General race — and Trump had long secured the nomination with never having a serious challenge.

    “That is a fairly rare phenomenon in American politics. It’s usually hard enough to get Americans to vote when their vote actually matters.”


    David La Torre, a Republican public affairs executive, said he’s only seen one Biden sign in Pennsylvania so far — and that wasn’t even in person.

    “It was a borough councilman, celebrating on social media the picture he took of a Biden sign in somebody’s yard.”

    Trump signs, meanwhile, he’s seen a lot of them.

    “They are everywhere,” La Torre said, “and many of them are homemade.”

  44. On a completely different topic, this ought have gone up yesterday, but merits attention this day and every day …

  45. You are not alone. St. Augustine wrestled with Revelation. His complaint was that a book called Revelation should reveal and not conceal.

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