Chapter Might be Tomorrow

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Sorry, we were taking care of a bunch of things as our state shuts down around us because our math-retarded and panicking governor has ordered no more than 250 people anywhere at the same time.  I think he has no idea how many 250 people actually are. Also, frankly, sure, 250 people in a small room could be a danger (of someone catching a bad cold which if they’re stupid enough to expose themselves while they have other risk factors could kill them, yes (and I say that as someone with risk factors.)) 250 people in … oh, the Denver art museum?  I don’t think in anything but free days or special, limited-time exhibits (for things people actually want to see, not installations and performance art) we’ve ever run into more than 3 other people PER ROOM.  And social distance is very distant indeed.  But hey, 250 people sounded okay to Polis. It’s probably the maximum people he sleeps with per day, or something.  And totalitarians got to totalitarian.

This is going to destroy restaurants, hotels, anyone who depends on touristic income (a lot of people in CO) etc. etc. etc.  Of course the media is amplifying the reports of job losses already, because they think this helps their cause of taking down the economy.

Who knows? It might. I just wish people with buy tulips. It’s less harmful.

Never mind.

I realized today we’re now one of those countries where the other countries in the world are going “well, if they only have under a 100 deaths, why are they shutting down like this? There has to be more deaths they’re hiding.” And thus the panic spreads. I mean, other countries believe US media.

Which is what has driven this insanity from the beginning.

I’m going to lay down a marker for total deaths from the Covid-19 virus in the US somewhere between 7 and 15k. IOW, bad flu season, and mostly the groups affected by the flu. (NOT that the media will tell you that. Instead they’ll talk about plague-level mortality and try to convince us those numbers are terrible.)

I’m going to lay down a marker for the deaths and illnesses from the economic disruption caused by the panic being AT LEAST ten times that, and that’s just the ones we can count, not the second, third and fourth order effects.

I hope the major media lives to know they burned what remained of their scant credibility on this.

And I’m praying that when all is said and done, people know who was responsible: the left and the media in their frenzy to get Orangemanbad.  I’m not betting on it mind you, because people are stupid and might very well decide they’re unemployed/broke because — as those nice talking heads say — bad Trump caused this.

Keep in mind that when I say this about the US I’m not saying it about the rest of the world: where, never mind lies and statistics, health care is FAR worse, and social contact FAR more frequent and population IN GENERAL older (And the places it’s not the hygiene is appalling, so….).  The rest of the world is going to hurt, very hard.  Unfortunately because of our media induced panic, we won’t be in a position to help. (Insert shrugging emoji. Oh, well.)

Meanwhile, those of you stuck with kids at home, don’t forget The Teaching Company.  If you’re not in CO and your library system HASN’T closed, you might be able to grab some. If it’s history, view them first, or view them with the kids to mitigate the spin.

And if you can get in — they’re small and only have so much time — I can’t recommend the Lukeion Project enough for the subjects that used to constitute “A Classic education.”
Younger son loved the courses he took through them and has retained a fascination with Greek and Greek history.

AND there are a number of companies offering free access to their “learn at home” things too. So if your kids are at home, don’t let them waste their time and drive you insane. Make them learn. Heaven knows, they’ll learn more than at school.

Or if you’re home, and wondering if your job will survive, maybe you can access some of those and not think about it too hard.

Other than that, join me in a gigantic ARGH over the over-blown panic.

Note, I’m not saying that people at risk shouldn’t self-isolate/people who live with people at risk shouldn’t self-isolate, etc etc.  I THINK our fight should have been a massive campaign aimed at those people, keeping them safe, making sure they don’t suffer economically or educationally.

But hey, such targeted efforts at getting people to self quarantine — yeah, I know a lot would fail. You think this won’t? You can’t mother adults and some of them WILL be stupid — would be more effective.  But they wouldn’t take down Orangemanbad, or destroy the safety and prosperity of our country. So, for that media that’s a hard no, I guess.

 

 

226 thoughts on “Chapter Might be Tomorrow

  1. My crazy mind is asking “if 250 in a room is bad, would 249 in a room be OK”? 😈

      1. is it 250 or 249 🙂 ? I’d hate to show up at the Pearly Gates and have to tell St. Peter I was done in by a fracking fence post error…

        1. My mom (85) is at the Oregon Amaranth Grand Court, today, Saturday, as I type. Average age is going to be over 60 for the 120 or so crowd that is going to be there. Doubt they’ll have a whole lot fly in; but who knows. But drive from neighboring states? Definitely. I know at least one of the Oregon contingent has been flying to a number of states, including Hawaii, and British Columbia, for their State Grand Courts, over the last 2 months.

          1. Oh, I’m sorry. I bet I have friends there. They’d probably have motorhomed, that’s their usual.

            General Grand Chapter Order of the Eastern Star just called off all official functions through June.

              1. I will not be delivering Communion at the rest home until the end of April. The priest will not be saying Mass there and will visit only if someone is DYING.

                They’ve taken away the holy water fonts, and all sick people are dispensed from Mass and reminded that it is an act of charity to avoid Mass, and all those who are in risk groups, or caring for those who are, or their children, may commute their obligation by watching Mass on TV or online, reading and reflecting on the readings for the day, saying the Rosary, or doing the Stations of the Cross, and saying an Act of Spiritual Communion. At that, our diocese is doing the least. Massachusetts shut down public Mass, and the Hartford diocese is dispensing everyone from attending Mass.

        2. Is that umber calibrated for height, weight and other factors? A room filled with 250 FL linemen is obviously going to be far more crowded than one with 250 ballerinas.

    1. But wait! There are too many Congresscritters!

      The Senate can still meet, but the 435 House Reps all have to stay home! The government has to shut down!

      We’re saved!

      1. If you have ever visited our nation’s capitol and entered the hallowed sanctuaries of the visitors gallery, you will know that the House, even when in session, is usually well under these limits in actual attendance. I was last there a large number of years back and got to see Congressman Sonny Bono addressing the House on something obviously important to his constituents, but aside from clerks there were maybe seven congresscritters present, and that including the dozing chairpersonage.

  2. My understanding is that a bad flu season is closer to 40K+ deaths. Based on that (mis)understanding, 7K to 15K would be a mild flu season.

      1. CDC site is currently (well, an hour or two ago) saying 55k for bad years– but that’s “estimated excess mortality,” AKA has only a vague connection with objective reality.

      2. Yep. I’m desultorily doing a bit of research to try to determine whether “symptoms + NOT corona ≅ flu.”

        If testing massively ramps up starting next week as Trump is describing (shaker of salt thrown, there) – if the relationship above is true, this might be the first time we get a number that is not mostly handwavium for original morbidity causation. If enough people run to get tested that would simply stay home (or ignore it and go to work) when they have mild symptoms, it could revise the mortality percentage down drastically. For both corona AND flu.

        1. The part of me that craves information wants the CDC to send 2,000 test kits to each state health department and tell them to test a representative random sample of their population and report the results. The part of me that understands politics knows why this isn’t being done.

            1. Yeah this. Given Seattle has done genetic analysis of different positive samples that indicate free-range COVID-19 in that local population since around 2 weeks before Christmas, it would be very interesting to see how widely this thing already has run it’s course.

            2. And pluswise: Given a population of healthy, young COVID-19 antibody-bearers, that opens up therapies for really ill patients: Just transfuse them from a recovered 20 year old with matching types. Could help, couldn’t hurt.

              1. I saw a headline earlier about somebody trying to develop a vaccine with blood drawn from Woo-Hoo FLu survivors. Lemmee see now …

                Doctors want to treat coronavirus with blood from recovered patients
                Doctors searching for treatments to fight the coronavirus say the answer may be in the blood of recovered patients, according to a report.

                Researchers at Johns Hopkins University want to use a method known as “convalescent serum,” which involves harvesting virus-fighting antibodies from the blood of patients who have already beaten the illness, NBC News reported.

                Dr. Arturo Casadevall, chair of the molecular microbiology and immunology department, said the treatment has not been implemented for decades in the US, though blood from survivors was used to treat the Spanish flu, polio and measles.

                “I knew the history of what was done in the early 20th century with epidemics,” Casadevall told NBC. “They didn’t have vaccines then, they didn’t have any drugs then — just like the situation we face now.”

                The report, which was published Friday in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, noted the practice was used in China during the 2009 outbreak of H1N1 influenza and the Ebola epidemic in 2013.

                “Although every viral disease and epidemic is different, these experiences provide important historical precedents that are both reassuring and useful as humanity now confronts the COVID-19 epidemic,” the researchers wrote.

                The virus — which first emerged in December — has now spread to more than 152,000 people in 144 countries.
                * * *
                144 countries!!! That’s gross!

                1. Related news (those of us who sleep with attached air compressors ought particularly note emboldened passage):

                  Doctor shares how to reduce exposure to coronavirus while sleeping
                  A Seattle doctor says that people are particularly vulnerable to getting the coronavirus while sleeping — and offered some tips for protecting yourself while snoozing.

                  Dr. Bruce L. Davidson wrote in an op-ed for CNN that while sleeping, around half of people are prone to aspiration — or breathing in foreign objects to the airways, which can allow the virus in.

                  “Coronavirus infects cells below the voice box, in the airways and deep in the lungs, unlike flu viruses which start with your nose and throat,” he wrote. “Other than via tiny particles inhaled in air, coronavirus reaches those cells via fluid in the nose or throat that sneaks past your voice box (this is called aspiration) and slides down your windpipe, or trachea.”

                  But Davidson — an expert in respiratory transmission of infection — said there are several steps that people can take to limit their exposure to the bug as they sleep.

                  First, he advises thoroughly washing your hands and face in case you have already been exposed to germs.

                  “Wash your hands and face well with soap and warm water, including — on a finger — a quarter-inch into each nostril,” he said. “Then gently blow your nose.”

                  He also suggested that people limit any sedatives, such as alcohol, before they sleep since it can increase aspiration.

                  Most importantly, Davidson said people should make sure that any devices they use to sleep are clean.

                  “The key is to minimize the virus burden around and inside your face before you go to sleep… If you use a device at night for sleep apnea, make sure it remains away from where people could cough, sneeze and breathe on it, and clean it regularly,” he wrote.

                  The coronavirus is a respiratory illness, meaning that it spreads through droplets launched when an infected person sneezes or coughs.

                  So far, the virus has infected more than 152,000 people across the world in at least 144 countries.

          1. Myself, I wouldn’t depend on the sample to be either random – or representative.

            A rather large number of people (and not just in the “bad parts of town”) would not be overly trusting of a government flunky that walked up and asked for a biosample. Myself included!

              1. Ameliorated – not “solved.”

                Just about all of the techniques that you can apply also require an extensive history of what methodologies worked, what methodologies did not work, and as a database when developing new analysis methodologies. We do not have that history here. (Not that having one keeps you from being bit in the butt – must I mention 2016?)

                Now, if and when there is a massive testing program conducted under “live fire,” we will get a cornucopia of data for working with (assuming decent demographic records are kept – and any inconvenient facts are not suppressed).

    1. 2017-2018 Flue season (a moderately bad one where the vaccine did not match the flu going around) had about 80,000 deaths in the USA alone. I don’t recall any daily sick and dead counts from it in the media.

  3. The UK has decided to let it burn itself out – feeling once it is over the majority of the population will have some immunity and trying to stop it the cure is worse than the disease. Of course that pretty much sacrifices the elderly – but they don’t work – and that seems to be the modern definition of contributes to society. They’ll be sure to look extra sad about that.

    1. As I understand the U.K.’s concern, the NIH is already strained and the elderly were the population block most in favor of Brexit and against Corbyn, so …

  4. Is COVID-19, coronavirus, being overblown? A lot of people think so.

    Here’s something to think about: President Trump has the best medical advice on the planet. Agreed? And he has far more data, as well as estimates of its confidence, than anyone else on the planet. A fair supposition, at least?

    And President Trump, who *loves America*, and has been about 98% correct so far in everything else, thinks this is so serious he is willing to take actions that he well knows will inflict many billions of dollars in damage to the economy. AND possibly tank his re-election campaign.

    He thinks it’s that bad, that serious, that big of a risk. He’s willing to take many billions in hits now to avoid lives and trillions later.

    I know who I’m listening to: President Trump.

    I advise folks to do the same, and stop listening to those that contradict him. Not because I am a Trump booster, but because of the things I listed above. At this point it is more reasonable and logical, based on empirical facts, to listen to Trump, than to listen to anyone else. He has the info. They don’t. He has the track record. They don’t.

    1. Anyone who listens to the media–without analyzing it and comparing it to what they said the day, week and month before and to what they actually know–believes that Trump is a strange mix of Adolf Hitler and Inspector Cleuseau.

      And they’re not getting, or being reminded of, the tools of analysis for connecting facts into a conclusion.

    2. You’re forgetting that Donald Trump is a politician. He could believe that this is no more severe than a mild cold, but with millions of people driven into an outright panic by a mendacious media hell-bent on talking about anything other than the impeachment Schiff show, if he didn’t do anything at all he would give the Democrats an invaluable talking point.

      If you look at Trump’s response over time, you can see that he has been trying to do the least possible while counteracting the panic. He’s failed on that goal, which means he has not choice but to go along.

        1. I don’t think it was a coincidence that the first stories in the US media about what was happening in China started coming out as the impeachment was imploding.

          1. The Media are always going to find a shiny object to twirl and are forever throwing things against the wall to find what sticks. If they can use the distraction to directly attack Trump so much the better, but their focus lies in stoking concern.

            Of course, if a story can be weaponized against Trump s much the better, but the important things are 1) drawing our attention and b) distracting from Trump’s achievements in the economy.

          2. I don’t think that works. The first few months of US media about it was about how it was nothing at all and you were racist for thinking otherwise. Complete with suppression from Youtube and Facebook.

            It was only later that they started trying to make it Trump’s fault.

            1. Fox News isn’t letting the others get away with that. Or trying not to. They are perfectly happy to rerun reports they made, about the virus, when most all other news & the democrats were focused explicitly on the impeachment, and sweeping China’s problemnot-a-problem under the rug. Fox News hasn’t quite explicitly said “We told you so!” But they sure are implying it.

            2. It was sort of two-faced. One line was that it was a terrible thing happening over there in China, but the other one was that it wasn’t a major threat to the US so Trump’s travel restrictions were a racist overreaction. Only when it spread out of China did it become a global threat and criticism of Trump’s travel policies was memory-holed.

        2. The whining article a day or two ago from an MSM creep (about the profound distain from the public) indicates that people are seeing the huge stinky pile under the rug.

          1. They smell it, but they don’t see it, and the leftists are all blaming it on the dog — I mean Trump.

        3. Why do I get the feeling that we’re seeing collusion between the media and the Communist Chinese, because they both want Trump gone?

          And, neither of them can quite get what they’re doing wrong, because he’s still there.

          1. Why do I get the feeling that we’re seeing collusion between the media and the Communist Chinese

            Well, you get that feeling because you are seeing obvious collusion.

            1. It is wrong to assume collusion — it might merely be a instance of parallel evolution, two organisms evolving toward the same purpose.

              OTOH, just because Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim owns most of the NY Times it does not follow that he calls the shots; it is my understanding that none of the shares he holds are voting shares.

              And if he decided to dump his holdings o the market because he disagreed with some direction the paper was taking I am confident, confident, the Sulzberger’s would not consider altering that direction for even a minute (they probably wouldn’t think about it for even ten seconds.)

    3. On the other hand, President Trump may be taking these actions in order to fight the Panic not the disease.

      There was a short piece that I read years ago that went as follows.

      The Master Of Death gave the Black Plague permission to kill a thousand people in a certain town.

      When the Black Plague returned, his Master complained that three thousand had died in that town.

      The Black Plague replied “I only killed a thousand, Panic killed the rest”.

      Intelligent people know panic can be deadly and President Trump is an intelligent man.

    4. President Trump has the most prestigious medical advice on the planet, which is not quite the same thing as the best.

      1. Yep. This. And while he has a lot of horse sense, and I’ll usually trust him, he might just be trying to avoid the trap the media built for him.
        Which is what I believe he’s doing.

    5. Trump also gets expert advice on how to handle a panic.

      His actions are also geared towards calming a mob. Not the same as a virus, although the spread is similar.

    6. We can always hope that this is a cover for a purge of the Deep State.

      Either that or there’s so much stress built up in society over things that we can do nothing about, that it’s all coming out now – cathartically – when there’s something happening that we can do something about.

      If so, better now, than later in the summer.

      1. I am sincerely hopeful that, after “the emergency” is over, there’s going to be a bloodbath of “These regs got in the way of being effective. Let’s remove them permanently, in the name of making sure they don’t get in the way next time.”

        1. Yep – a “Blue Ribbon” commission, set up by presidential decree, authorized to review procedures and recommend revisions, submitting final package to Congress for up/down vote, like a base closing commission. Don’t let Pelosi or Schumer near the process and select members from industry leaders. Make it small, efficient and well-staffed, designed to return an initial report quickly before this Charles Foxtrot recedes in the nation’s rear-view mirror. Full report and additional proposed regulatory changes to follow. Make sure some recommended proposals can be enacted by executive action, establishing a contrast between presidential energy and Congressional dithering.

          Get somebody like Gingrich* or Haley to chair it, somebody who knows the games bureaucracies play and who has an authoritative TV presence with the ability to go on air and bend anchors to their will. Or pick a capable general with experience in After Action Review BS and how to clean up the stables.

          *Gingrich is currently in Italy and reporting what a cock-up they’ve achieved.

          1. Note, re: Gingrich* in Italy:

            Newt Gingrich from Italy: ‘America Must Act Now—And Act Big’—to Contain COVID-19
            Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is living in Italy as his wife Calista serves as U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican.

            I don’t envy him.

            Gingrich is at the epicenter of the worst outbreak of COVID-19 outside of China and has words of warning for America about the spread of this disease. …

            *Announcement of Gingrich for such a commission as proposed ought emphasize this European observations and his past experience working with Bill Clinton to reduce government inefficiency and reduce the defecet. (Not proper spelling, I recognize, but for some reason my fingers reject typing deficit without feces in the midst.)

    7. It boggles my mind – that my daughter and I saw how the Wuhan Coronovirus was developing at least a month ago, and by the last week in February and the first of March (when my pension and her VA disability is paid) we had already decided to stock up on … stuff. The usual monthly, plus some extras, like OTC cold and flu meds. We did – and some extra selections of grocery items of which we were really fond. All good and well – but as of Thursday and Friday, when the city announced cancellations and delays of all kinds of things, local people went nuts at the grocery store. Pardon me, people — did you not see this coming, weeks ago? Did you have to freaking panic and strip the grocery store shelves over the last three days?

    1. We’ll meet you, if you want to arrange it, but I EXPECT in a couple of weeks even restaurants will be closed.
      Right now, it’s just all attractions, for the next three weeks…..

  5. I just ‘yelled’ at my mother, age 76, on supplemental oxygen at night, to get out of the grocery and come home. On messaging, of course. Freaking Silents. *grumble grumble grumble* Literally the target demographic for this virus: over seventy with compromised lungs.

    If you’re like my mother, let your daughter shop for you!

    1. Old people (in which demographic I myself fall, and do not claim innocence here) can be as bad as the young, just for a different reason. We tend to think “I have lived through – insert varying list of ‘it’s going to kill us all’ – crises, and am still here! One more isn’t going to get me!”

      The guy with the scythe is frequently distracted; he’s very, very busy – but he does get around to every customer in the long run.

      Good luck on dealing with Mom, and a prayer for her…

  6. ” The rest of the world is going to hurt, very hard. Unfortunately because of our media induced panic, we won’t be in a position to help. (Insert shrugging emoji. Oh, well.)”

    What? You mean we can’t nanny the rest of the world? Wait? What? Oh darn. Here I … never mind, my eyes keep rolling back into my head too much to finish typing. Wouldn’t want to fish them from under the couch where the cat batted them to keep them away from the dog …

    The good news, the world will know what happens when the we aren’t there to help. The bad news is we will be blamed for excess deaths because we didn’t come to help; and ‘Orangemanhorrible’. While our total number of deaths is likely to be higher than any other country, our percentage is going to be a whole lot lower, and pockets, not wide spread. So, why wouldn’t non-affected pockets come help.

  7. Was just out getting a few items (Wire wheels, brushes, a few food items, cat food etc).
    I went past Aldi’s and the lot was packed full, Tractor Supply was a typical Saturday, then into Menards (the Walmart of Big Box home stores) and they were stripped bare of toilet paper, Campbell’s soup (well, it is $1 a can, so), and 7UP-RC Cola/A&W? . . , though I think that is a distribution issue as an employees was complaining to a customer they were told it wasn’t coming until Friday. And not being Texas, they had a few 6 packs of Dr Pepper in nasty regular and ultra nasty diet. They were also running low on Pepsi (horrible stuff), running low on paper towels, but water seems to only be the big honking 5gl bottles running low. All the other water seemed less picked over.

    1. I went to the local Jewel grocery store yesterday to get the stuff my Southside Irish wife wants for a St. Paddy’s day feast Tuesday. It was packed, but not moreso than usual for a Saturday afternoon. I did a scan of several aisles I don’t normally go down. The canned veggies were almost all gone, the rice and dried bean shelves were totally empty, Diet Coke was total gone with about 2/3 of fully leaded Coke gone, though there was plenty of Pepsi crap, Toilet paper and paper towels along with hand soap of all kinds were gone. Plenty of produce and meat and the deli counter was doing a booming business.

      BTW….pies were only $3.14 yesterday…….

      1. The local grocery store this morning, (Wisconsin store, needed Coke and hate deposit time wasting and a Cheese the store on my side doesn’t have in it) had signs saying no rain-checks on the toilet paper they had coupons for (a certain size Scott) and there was a few less single rolls than normal, and the smaller packs, but plenty of the Quilted Charmin.
        Soup and canned veggie were lower than normal, but not bad (the prices are high normally on soup, Menards having way better prices but a few less selections) and the institutional section at this place is full of cans, but for some reason a can of gravy is 1/3 more compared to the Michigan store.
        Rice, peas, and beans were about normal (seems they always have one item out, and it randomly changes), just a tad low, and they don’t stock after hours any more, so they may restock as the day goes, and I did buy a 10 pack of Monster there, as Menards was out, and they game the deposit scamming folks as Monster in the Michigan store is $1 cheaper, but the deposit runs a $1., so both places are $2 more than Menards.
        The bread section was very picked over, but I use the baker section’s store baked, and they were fine. They had sold out of rotisserie chicken, so no cold day-olds on hand and they hadn’t gotten them out for the day.

    2. To my tastebuds the only soda worse than Dr. Pepper (Mr. Pibb is a close match) is Moxie. New England local, so far as I know. Drank it ONCE out of curiosity.

      Don’t.

      1. Moxie got Anise? I’ve never had it, but the only Dr simulator I could drink was HEB’s Hill Country Sugar sweetend (no HFCS) in glass bottles. One was in a 6 pack I bought and I didn’t notice until I took a swig. Knew it wasn’t Cola, but it wasn’t horrible enough to stop me finishing the drink.

        1. The only thing funnier than people who dislike Dr. Pepper is people who dislike root beer. (The video with Irish people tasting root beer is hysterical, especially since they usually like Southern/old-fashioned US food.)

          1. I don’t mind Root Beer if Root Beer is what I’m expecting. It’s ordering Cola and getting Root Beer that makes me spray soda hither and yon.

            Hasn’t happened to me for some years,. and I remember it most from my childhood. I wonder if there was a change in soda fountain technology that made it less likely.

            Anyone know?

            1. Used to be the hoses were all hooked up individually, so hooking up the wrong brown syrup container to the wrong brown-looking hose was easy.

              In the newer machines things are more modular so it’s harder to get things wrong.

          2. The problem with root beer is the way the big companies have sweetened it beyond recognition. Now when I want root beer I buy Birch Beer (Boylan’s is highly recommended) instead.

            You want to see some really surprised takes, give folks a taste of Vernors — straight from the factory as it tends to lose its fizz if transported more than 100 miles. Back when I lived in Detroit the first attempt at taking a sip from freshly opened can always provoked a sneeze.

            1. I love Vernors. It is only available this side of the river. I found a place in New Orleans that stocked it and HEB had it in Texas. Texas and Louisiana seemed to have it rather fresh, as DRPepper/7UP owns it (based in DFW), but here it is distroed by Pepsi. I was going to buy some this weekend but was across the river so I grabbed some Bundaberg Ginger Beer, to tide me over.

        1. I used to drink Cream Soda and Big Red on occasion.
          Can’t any more. Once I moved to Louisiana, I would get sick if I drank those when it was hot, and lost the ability to deal with them.

          1. Tried it once, shortly after we moved to Indiana. Never felt the need to again.
            A good cream soda is nice every once in a while , though.

  8. I don’t know what’s going to happen with the virus, but I do know that I’m on the verge of going stark-raving nuts after about two days of this–I don’t know how I’m going to make it through two weeks or two months or whatever it’s going to take. The Babylon Bee’s article about this being “Nerd Utopia” was funny, but it’s not true, at least in my case. I’m an introvert, so I need to be around lots of people: I have a hard time making friends and having a good social circle, so I NEED those little interactions with the stocker at the grocery store, the barista at Starbucks, or the woman at the library who wants me to move my backpack so she can have the chair next to me…

    Someone is probably going to tell me that all that is small potatoes compared to getting or spreading the virus, and they might be correct, but I’m not sure how metaphorical that “stark-raving nuts” is.

    1. I’m in the EXACT same position. THIS is why I tend to live urban if I can. My morning walk I see enough people that my “contacts” for the day are done. If I don’t I tend to spiral into depression. Today I want to go to the botanic gardens, the zoo and a restaurant before they close those too.

      1. On the other hand, I haven’t been out of the house in ten days, which is absolutely fine with me.

        Though I admit the broken leg has been a big factor in not getting out…

    1. The local home school association advertised on local social media about their services and the local teacher’s union rep is now worried they might entice several families to abandon the public schools here.

  9. There’s a few things that are annoying about this shutdown, but honestly, there are so many things that need to be done that we haven’t before because what we’ve needed is—a large chunk of time that wasn’t devoted to other things. So. The yard is getting fixed up. Now that the rains have come, the garage is going to get cleaned out. The rooms that need fixing up are going to be fixed up.

    Shutting the schools is seen as an emergency, but you know what? I think it’s the right call. Slow the spread so we don’t get overwhelmed, and so that in a year, people will think we overreacted. I think something like this should happen every so often so we can figure out other things to do.

    1. I think they should shut down the schools, period. BUT that’s me. 😀
      I think we’re overreacting not just a little bit, but MAJORLY. And I think the economic disruption will hurt us a lot worse than even severe flu.

      1. work has the travel restrictions (We got offices in Europe and China, Customers world wide) and the restating that like with the seasonal Flu, if you feel ill, Don’t Come To Work! Earlier in the winter they were very short handed as a ton of people were sick at the three manufacturing buildings. Benefit of having moved . . . in a 67.000 sq ft building with about 9 people in it, and were are rather spread out.
        I haven’t heard if JIT stuff from China has bit them in the ass yet, but it already cost them a ton when they had faulty parts, so who knows

      2. Of course the economic disruption will hurt worse. That’s why the Left is doin their damndest to make it worse. The only slim chance they’ve got in November is if the economy is down AND they can somehow blame that on Trump. Otherwise, with the two geriatric fools they seem likely to be running, even if they manufactured enough votes for a ‘win’ nobody would believe them.

    2. Where are the older kids going to go? Last time they closed the schools in Texas, the teenagers went to the malls and parks. They didn’t stay home. The PTB didn’t think about that.

      1. Chores. Lots and lots of chores.

        Keep them busy and on a schedule, and on a standard frequently reviewed.

        Good opportunity to guide self-direction and self-control.

      2. In Chicago and Miami they go “wilding” in packs of hundreds, and the police see nosssink while they smash windows and burn cars.

        Of course, video wasn’t as pervasive as it was a few years ago when it was last popular.

  10. Spouse asked me, back when the initial CA pubic gathering limit came out, “Where did they get the 1,000 number?” And after rejecting my initial “They pulled it out of their…” answer as rude I said “They made it up.”

    I have absolute certainty that these were polisci major numbers, so there is absolutely no math or science behind 1,000 or 250 or any other number that comes out of these pronouncements. At best they came up with numbers that sound about right to innumerate dimwits in government staffer jobs, then they sent those numbers past actual public health experts who shrugged and said “Sure, whatever.” At worst they skipped that last step.

    These numbers are fabricated from whole cloth, based solely on “OK, that won’t sound Joe-Biden-stupid in the press coverage after the announcement.”

      1. I don’t think there’s much air where they pulled the number from, their heads are taking up all of the space.

    1. Suggesting important public officials would “Make [crap] up” in a matter as important to public safety as this? You tryin’ to commit thought crime, boy? Do you not realize how important it is that the public panic over this?

      Ohio Official Who Claimed 100,000 Covid-19 Cases in the State Says She Was ‘Guesstimating’
      The director of Ohio’s Department of Health, Amy Acton, shocked a lot of people on Thursday when she said in a press conference that she believed 100,000 Ohioans had already contracted Covid-19.

      The Hill:

      “We know now, just the fact of community spread, says that at least 1 percent, at the very least, 1 percent of our population is carrying this virus in Ohio today,” Acton said. “We have 11.7 million people. So the math is over 100,000. So that just gives you a sense of how this virus spreads and is spreading quickly.”

      The Columbus Dispatch offered effusive praise of Acton for being a “voice of knowledge.”

      Amid the increasing fear and confusion of the coronavirus pandemic, a voice of knowledge reassures Ohioans every day.

      At daily live-streamed press briefings, Dr. Amy Acton follows Gov. Mike DeWine’s announcement of orders and restrictions with calm explanations of outbreaks and community spread.

      Speaking candidly but calmly, the director of the Ohio Department of Health translates complex medical theory to plain English, then immediately lets her humanity shine through.

      “We all, myself included, need to learn to live through something we’ve never dealt with before,” she said at Thursday’s briefing.

      What an incredible human being, to let her humanity “shine through” like that. Brings a tear to my eye, it does.

      But Director Acton forgot to mention a small detail about her Apocalypse Now statement; it wasn’t true. …

  11. The Woo-Hoo Flu has reached the point where every elected office-holder can do the math: there is no downside to constructive panicking. Do too much and your [behind] is covered; if the virus doesn’t go critical you can claim your rain dance saved the day, if it goes catastrophic it did so ii spite of your draconian efforts to halt the spread.

    Plus you get valuable TV time “displaying” leadership.

    Fail to act “decisively” and you get no credit if this proves “Meh.” and are subjected to uncountable thumb-sucking pieces about your leadership failure if it explodes (even f it proves a squib.) Your “leadership” is contrasted with surrounding governors unfavorably and the opposition hits “RECORD” on their DVRs to gather campaign ad material from the many news broadcasts f sick and suffering people — even if those pictures are from the Asian Flu pandemic of 1968.

    And you get no free TV time.

    1. There’s also the magic of perception.
      If most people know about 100 people, then even with a very low fatality rate, you’ll hear second and third hand accounts of people who have died (or ALMOST died! They tend to be rather vocal about it!) all the fricking time.

      So with this kickoff, it’s going to seem like a big deal, regardless.

      But unless the fatality percentage is scarily high, it’ll also seem like “it could easily have been worse”.

      Those stoking the fear haven’t thought this through.
      Trump comes out of this smelling like a rose.
      The globalists and open border advocates? Not so much.

  12. I learned from my daily news feeds that to my horror and disgust the mayor and city council of Champaign Illinois met in special session this morning to issue a directive that all sales and transfers of firearms and ammunition shall be suspended for the duration of this emergency.
    WTF!!!!!!
    Now Champaign is the home of the University of Illinois, so a hotbed of flaming liberal thinking, but in Illinois it is already illegal for anyone not in possession of a current FOID card to even touch guns or ammo. FOID is their Firearm Owner IDentification card that has been in effect since 1969. The process to get one is about as rigorous as a concealed carry permit would be in many other states.
    I have to assume that the powers that be in Champaign are so in fear of their residents that in a crisis their first instinct is to do everything in their power to disarm the common citizens. Of course there is no legal way for them to prevent people from driving elsewhere in Illinois to purchase a gun, with of course a waiting period unless I’m mistaken, or anywhere within easy driving in or out of the state for immediate ammunition purchase.
    And of course I have to assume they had other topics of importance for the special session, but I still find it telling that banning arms was their top priority.

    1. This falls into the “never let a crisis go to waste” category” as Democrats intend to use this as an opportunity to get their wish list enacted , whether it is relevant to the outbreak or not.. I fully expect them to cite the like of TP, etc., as justification for socialism and government control of distribution; they will claim it would not run out and would be distributed more “fairly” while all the while hoping no one remembers the Soviet breadlines and the absolute disaster that socialism turned Venezuela into.

    2. Ah, I recall the stoneage years before the 18 year old vote. The towns (Urbana, too) and the county were quite conservative, with an industrial base favoring Republican voters. Also, Champaign county enforced strict residency requirements, so the 21+ year old students had a hard-to-impossible case to register to vote there. It was clear that the residency issue was going to be pushed hard. I don’t know the details, but indications in the mid-70s were that the restrictions weren’t going to stand up in court.

      I don’t know when the Dems took the area over, but there was a lot of Berkeley-in-the-cornfields attitude among the louder voices on campus that would have fed the madness. Haven’t been back there since the late ’70s. No longer miss it.

    3. She also gave herself the power to confiscate private property, restrict gasoline sales, and limit driving.

      1. She only thinks she gave herself that power. Some smart-ass judge might disagree.

        Although it being Illinois that seems unlikely. I’m confident your state’s governors, legislators and senators have taken pains to ensure no judge with such radical ideas about holding liberals to the Constitution ever gets appointed.

  13. Saturday around here seems like there is plenty of grocery business, but not as much tension or the long lines. A lot of people with sniffles and coughs seemed to have improved last week in the nice weather. I think the non-mandatory nature of most closings has helped reduce tension.

    I had to go pick up.a UPS package, which is the only reason I went out in the snow. Bah.

    EWTN reassured viewers this morning that they will stay on the air. Which is an “of course,” because most of the TV engineers and cameramen are members of the order that lives there! I noticed that the Mass music was unusually soothing for Lent, even for a Saturday Mass.

    Also, every so often they air the prayer against epidemics and for the intercession of St. Rosalia of Palermo.

    It’s gonna be okay. But since quarantining the few is so difficult, it is okay to semi-quarantine everyone a little bit.

    1. Today was normal down here too. The part of the grocery store I was in (went for my fancy goat-milk soap, since I got a bonus this pay check) had people doing Saturday stuff. One gent had two big things of bottled water on his shoulders, but he took them to a van full of grade-school age kids and sponsors in soccer club tee-shirts, so it was not a stocking-up purchase. Nothing odd at the drug store, either.

      The county health department has been very, very active urging prevention, hand-washing, not going out if you think you are sick, and reminding people that we have 0 cases up here, and are testing. People are getting onto the neighborhood aps and offering to run-errands and kid-sit if needed. We’ll see what happens after Spring Break, but this far folks are calm.

      I WAS steamed this morning at the propaganda video out of the PRC a family friend had, showing Trump collapsing at a rally from the Kung Flu. The friend didn’t realize it was propaganda, until my folks and I explained what the PRC was doing. He has lots of contacts in the Chinese ex-pat community, and is a little blind to PRC foreign policy.

      1. SITREP from Trader Joe’s this afternoon, along with some intel from interviews of the indigenous life forms:

        Meat section was nearly completely empty, but bread and salads were pretty much OK. fresh fruits and veggies were a little light. Frozen meals, frozen fish, frozen meat, any frozen pasta dishes were bought out with only a few exceptions (I like their Orange Chicken so yay there was a big pile). Frozen deserts were about half stocked – either there was plenty of something or none. TP and paper towels were right out, and the shelving was askew in that section – evidence of combat? Nuts were about half empty, as were breakfast foods. Chips were also spotty, wine and cheese and beer were fully stocked.

        In general staples like rice and beans and canned foods were in good supply, while meats, luxury frozen foods

        Staff said Der Tag was Thursday – up until then they were at roughly normal inventory levels, but Thursday as crazy and they’ve been down since. Also TJ warehouses are controlling what stores can order for restocking. Store was not crowded at all for a Saturday afternoon, and the parking lot shared with Costco was very light for Saturday.

        We did not venture into Costco, but there was no smoke or obvious damage visible from the parking lot.

        1. Sorry – mid para should be:

          In general staples like rice and beans and canned foods were in good supply, while meats, luxury frozen foods And of course paper products were just absent.

            1. For those unfamiliar, the Trader Joe’s chain of grocery stores is basically Whole-Foods-Lite, i.e. luxury stuff of only their own brands (mostly) at prices roughly somewhat competitive but not really low. One does not buy fresh meat at TJ’s looking for the best deal (Costco by a mile) or the best cut (actually also Costco for beef, but we have local stores that still staff butcher counters stretching across the entire back of the store who actually cut their own meat, and who still ask you what you want and wrap it up in white paper). TJ and Whole Foods service the same upper-middle-class and lower-upper-class market.

              Notably a common place to run into Russian nomenclatura immigrants is at the TJs up the peninsula.

              And TJ continuously restocks the shelves. I mean literally whenever you shop there’s staff with a pallet out restocking something, unlike, say, Safeway which only restocks overnight. So TJ’s 40+ ft of fresh meat shelves completely empty from bottom to top, and all the frozen fish and beef and chicken along probably 2/3rds of both sides of the 50 ft frozen food aisle bins being completely empty was notable, especially given staff saying the bad day was on Thursday and our visit was Saturday afternoon.

              We did not venture across the street to Whole Foods – nicknamed “Whole Paycheck” but with more moderate prices since Bezos bought them – so no report from there. The local WF is a very large store with lots and lots of stuff, but I would not be surprised if there was a panic run there as well.

  14. With diseases like this, where the common mild cases never make it into the reports, it’s useful to look at the deaths as a function of total population. The US typically loses about 15 people per 100,000 to the flu every year. In Hubei province, where the outbreak originated and there was a complete collapse of the healthcare system, WuFlu killed 5 per 100,000. Italy, which is currently undergoing a collapse of their healthcare system, is up to 2 per 100,000. My gut says that the US will lose around 3 per 100,000, putting me right in the middle of Sarah’s estimate.

    The good news is that it’s early in the year, this doesn’t last very long, and warm weather is coming. By June everyone will be laughing at the panic. Since nobody likes being laughed at, everyone will deny that they panicked – though some people will have a hard time explaining a closet full of TP for the next year. Everyone, that is, except for the politicians and talking heads who went on the record promoting panic. Summer will also see a boost in tourism as people make up for postponed vacations or just celebrate the reopening of attractions. We might get negative growth for this quarter and reduced growth next quarter, but the last quarter of FY20 is going to look pretty good.

      1. If you panic at the idiots, doesn’t that put you in a state of perpetual panic? It would definitely mean that for me, but maybe I just live in the wrong place.

      1. If this were late summer, August through October, I would be much more fearful. Obviously, panic will cause the uninformed to make poor decisions. But my hopes and expectations are that Covid-19 burns itself out by May or possibly June, leaving the rest of the runup to November for the Democrats to finish amputating their feet to the hips by refusing to acknowledge the simple truth that all their sneaky tricks have been found out and no longer work.
        Is gonna be interesting to watch just how their convention plays out and who actually wins the nomination, pinko Bern or dementia Joe. Or quite possibly a designated hitter still to be named.

        1. There will not BE a Democrat Convention. It will be canceled because of COVID-19. It will then be conference call based and the Party can pick who ever they want to and tell everyone else what the vote was. The Republicans will also cancel theirs because Trump will have more than enough votes to overwhelm everyone else. The BIG question is will they select Joe and a female running mate or go with someone else because Joe isn’t going to make it to November without exposing his mental problem in such a way that the media CANNOT hide it.

            1. No – Kamala would never take a vice-presidency from the kind of racist who didn’t want her riding a bus to a better school.

              I’m guessing Klobuchar. She not only provides strength in the industrial mid-west she managed to get through the entire campaign without diminishing her stature (admittedly, that would have been difficult for her to do.)

              I understand Stacey Abrams is available, and rumor has it Andrew Gillum is trying to grab the gay vote.

                  1. The funny thing is, Willie sounds somewhat put out that he was used so blatantly to advance her political career – there was an interview where he was doing the “Yes we dated” line, but was talking about how after he, as Speaker of the State Assembly, pulled strings and got her appointed to statewide commissions and such to start her off, she stopped returning his (booty?) calls.

                1. Thank-you — there are many things in this world I find worth knowing but the proper spelling of the names of Democrat Party hacks is something I generally leave for [search engine]. I was remiss in not double-checking for Governor I Was Robbed.

      2. I hope that Trump’s campaign team is smart enough to take all the clips of the Democrats denouncing his January travel ban from China, emphasizes his many statements over the years about the need to be less dependent on China and then plays clips of various Democrats expressing admiration for China and clips about the Biden family;s close financial ties to China.

      3. This is not something I would ordinarily recommend, but: watch the one-on-one Biden/Sanders debate Sunday night. Time how long Biden can remain coherent during any given answer.

        Think about how Trump will engage him.

        Right now Biden has been campaigning on the Warm-Up setting — I don’t think he can play it full-speed.

    1. My bet is we’re going to see a lot of, “You just wait, it’ll come back in the fall and then it’ll be REALLY bad!” if things calm down now.

  15. Our Mormon Overlord is so far the only person I’ve noticed giving believable arguments that this will be relatively minor.

    Just about everyone else ends up boiling down to either “Look how loudly I can announce my ignorance of basic math.”, or things that are decent rules of thumb until they aren’t. But the cultural / social distance / sanitation arguments? Those actually have value.

  16. Went to the mall (needed milk and antiperspirant). Not deserted, but remarkably quiet for a weekend. The way some people are reacting, you’d think this was the Black Death*.

    *Sorry, or is that name racist too?

    1. In New Jersey they were packed Thursday night and today. Some of it I think is fear that Chairman Murphy will announce a total lock down of the state/travel ban, etc., as he is very much in the “the bigger the government, the better” category (shortly after being elected he proclaimed that he intended to turn New Jersey into the California of the East Cost) and in some areas has been trying to even outdo that big left coast Marxist state.

      1. And, surprise, surprise, Murphy made a statement today about how “more draconian measures” were likely, and then referenced curfews and total lock-downs (i.e. not allowed to leave your home except very limited purposes),

      2. THIS.

        We didn’t get the full “crazy” here until the videos of the Italians who were trapped in their apartments went viral. Knowing just how foolish your gummint is, and how poorly they manage anything… What would you do?

      3. in the “the bigger the government, the better” category


        While I am in the “the bigger the government, the more it can F*CK THINGS UP!!” category.

        Recent events have not reversed my position.
        ———————————
        There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.

  17. This is madness, I refuse to leave my house not because of the Virus but because of the fear of being trampled by the mindless Mob. And this is Silicon Valley the alleged home of highly intelligent people

    1. It was actually pretty light out there – I mean, there were parking spaces right out in front of Costco (the Almaden Expressway one) on Saturday afternoon.

      To those not from the Valley of the Hearts Delight: This. Never. Happens.

      I think the main surge of cray-cray was earlier in the week – now people are bunkered up hugging their Precious TP.

      1. Oh, really? I was debating whether to skip the week’s trip — there’s not much we need urgently — but if the crowds have settled down here too, maybe it’s worth a quick sweep.

        1. The crazy press coverage it might be scaring people off. Or maybe we got there just after the tear gas had cleared and the crowd control scoops had carted the rioters off to the Soylent factory.

          Probably worth a drive-by.

          Alternatively you might try the newer one out where the IBM plant used to be down towards Coyote (85 and 101 area) or even drive down to the Gilroy one – not really that far down 101, though inconvenient for just a drive by parking lot scout.

        2. I went to our local Costco (some sale items) on Friday. Parking available, at 12:30 PM, without parking in the back 40 & walking, which is unusual at noon, let alone on Friday. They still had bare shelves of food & paper products. Didn’t check frozen. Way down on milk. Meat was low, but not out. But then they have a meat repacking area that is continuously putting things out. Ditto with bakery items. Way down. Normally the items are stacked quite high. Don’t know how long they’ll keep it up, or if the run will be over, eventually. Local Costco is getting in TP overnight, restocking it, but it is gone by 10 or 11 AM. Last week they still had tissue & flushable wet wipes. But Friday all that was gone too.

  18. “Math Challenged” indeed. One of my many points of irritation with the Progressive Left Intelligentsia is that they insist on styling themselves as experts in a wide variety of fields the foundations of which are the kind of mathematics the PLI have been ducking since sixth grade.

    1. Speaking of math, this needs to get out more:

      https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-dreaded-red-squamish.html

      Quote, go read the whole thing:

      The test, which includes the person administering it, the instruments, conditions, and all what have you, is known to be 95% sensitive — of those with the Squamish, the test will come back positive 95% of the time — and 95% specific — of those without the Squamish, the test will come back negative 95% of the time.

      Perceptive Reader will notice that this means a 5% risk of a false positive and a 5% risk of a false negative. The Usual Suspects may cry, “No fair!” because they want Daddy and Mommy to ensure 100% perfect. [When do we want it? Now!] But the sensitivity is about normal for lab tests while the specificity is actually better than normal.

          1. Last time I looked some wag had posted the old MAD Magazine article on 43 Man Squamish. If you can find it, it’s worth a look. Not Great Wit, but decent magazine level funny.

      1. Ohhh, yeah, good point.

        I’ve been holding my pained brain over people who seem to be trying to calculate exponential infection curves from the increase in the number of known cases right when testing gets ramped up but I hadn’t thought about the effect of even a low false positive rate in more widespread testing.

          1. WRONG.

            Death rate is deaths divided by what? total population? number who got sick (we don’t know without testing since symptoms vary in severity)? number who got tested (if you aren’t testing unless obviously sick, you miss some)?

            Lots of noise sources in all of those.

          2. *points at Washington state*

            They got their first doubling by deciding that folks who’d died a week before had Covid-19.

            And most of the US deaths are from the same nursing home, clustered together because it was identified there, so they actually tested everyone.

            Unless the rate of testing stays the same, the death rate just tells you that if you look, you’re more likely to find something than if you have no way of detecting it.

  19. I’m becoming more and more convinced that part of the Emergency Procedures needs to be to smack some Courage into a few dozen Leftists. Those in the Propaganda Press come instantly to mind.

    1. Sigh. I remember when I had no lack of Courage.

      And I smacked it down all by myself, nobody had t do it for me.

        1. What makes a King out of a slave?
          What makes the flag on the mast to wave?
          What makes the elephant charge his tusk, in the misty mist or the dusky dusk?
          What makes the muskrat guard his musk?
          What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder?
          What makes the dawn come up like thunder?
          What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the “ape” in apricot?
          What have they got that I ain’t got?

          Courage, that’s all.

  20. If the ban on large groups gathering means no legislature may meet for a while, perhaps we may yet save our Republic.

  21. Err — will this be instead of or in addition to the promo?

    And if instead, will the promo be Monday or in another week?

  22. Interesting bit this evening. Went out to a (national chain) restaurant and the little bits of advertising on the tables were all gone. The tables were bare. Evidently removal of oft-touched (and likely seldom to never cleaned) items has happened there.

    1. Saw the same thing at several places over the past week. Utterly bare tables and condiments by request seems to be the new norm.

  23. 250? Heh. Here in Ohio the magic number was 100, with very little notice. Schools K thru college, museums, libraries, casinos, closed. Stores, restaurants are still open, so far.

    1. Maybe they figure Ohioans cannot count above 100? Counting up to ten for each finger & thumb might be as best they can expect.

  24. Allow me to second the Great Courses idea. Furthermore, they have many, if not all, of their courses available on Audible, so you can build your collection for ~$15 per month, a deal considering that course might have been $$$$$ bucks directly from them. Only downside it you get only the audio version. If one particular course need visuals, (maps for history courses about ancient kingdoms with dynamic boundaries), you gotta find those maps online or have an imagination.

    1. Some Audible Great Courses have downloadable PDFs. The ones with “guidebooks” often have said books on archive.org somewhere. Yo ho ho. Scribd has official copies of many.

  25. Many Huns doubtless noted this report at Instapundit just after ten Saturday night:

    * * *
    FUNNY, THAT: Italy wonders where Europe’s solidarity is as coronavirus strains show: Germany blocks exports of medical supplies to Rome and ECB president shakes market confidence.

    Emergency doctors in Italy, the European epicentre of the coronavirus pandemic, were this week given guidance on “catastrophe medicine”. As the number of patients requiring intensive care balloons and hospitals run out of intensive care beds, doctors were instructed to “aim to guarantee intensive treatment to patients with the greatest chance of therapeutic success”.

    With the grim task of selecting patients unlikely to survive, Italy’s health authorities have pleaded with the countries’ friends and allies for emergency supplies. On Thursday, they finally arrived — from Shanghai. The China Eastern flight brought a medical team and 31 tonnes of supplies including ventilators.

    Beijing’s gesture has reinforced a perceived lack of support from Europe, compounded by a communications blunder by the European Central Bank president Christine Lagarde, who implied on Thursday it was no longer her job to keep Italy in the euro.

    When Italy asked for urgent medical supplies under a special European crisis mechanism no EU country responded. Fearful of its own shortages, Germany initially banned the export of medical masks and other protective gear. 3M, a producer, said the German restrictions had made it impossible to supply the Italian market. Berlin subsequently relaxed the export rules, but then Austria closed its borders to people arriving from Italy unless they could prove they were virus-free.

    The rebuffs are nourishing resentment that Italy has been abandoned by its European friends. It is a perception that has taken root over a decade, of a currency union that lacks collective solidarity and stifles growth as Italy confronted migrant flows from Africa and the Middle East. This, in turn, has fuelled the rise of Eurosceptic nationalists such as far-right firebrand Matteo Salvini.

    Weird that people would be skeptical.
    * * *

    Now add this bit of Eurotrashing:
    German officials anxious about Trump jockeying to convince firm devising coronavirus vaccine to move stateside
    German officials are trying to stop President Trump from convincing a company working on a coronavirus vaccine to move its research to the United States.

    CureVac, the German firm which expects to have a vaccine available for testing in June, was offered additional funds to relocate stateside so that Trump could gain access to a possible vaccine, German government officials told Welt am Sonntag, a German newspaper.

    Berlin made counteroffers in an attempt to keep the company in the country.

    A Health Ministry spokeswoman confirmed the negotiations, saying, “The German government is very interested in ensuring that vaccines and active substances against the new coronavirus are also developed in Germany and Europe. In this regard, the government is in intensive exchange with the company CureVac.”

    A German government source told Welt am Sonntag that Trump wants the U.S. to have access to the potential vaccine and would do anything to have it “only for the United States.”

    Trump met with CureVac’s CEO Daniel Menichella in early March and discussed his firm’s work. The company denied it made a deal with the U.S., saying, “The company rejects current rumors of an acquisition.”

    CureVac, which is funded in part by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, has had success in creating vaccines for malaria and other diseases, including influenza. …

    1. It ought be obvious to anyone not experiencing Trump Derangement Syndrome that Trump would never refuse to sell such a vaccine internationally, subject only to restrictions that American needs be met first.

      Germany: putting the Ewwww in the EU for generations.

      1. I have a theory for such a contingency which is not /Trump/ Derangement Syndrome. Consider the next world war being fought on his watch, and permit the contrivance that it is fought with biological weapons.

        I’m not sure what the process for adjusting the ITAR rules is, but lets pretend it could be done in time.

        So, if all these assumptions were true, that could happen. If.

        Because not even I am crazy enough to pick germs as the preferred option to deploy.

        The Germans are just being sore losers again about WWII.

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