Lies and Truths

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We live in a very weird time, in which people don’t even seem to think of lie and truth as things, but instead seem to believe whatever pleases them best, and run with it. Only that explains the abundance of contradictory beliefs the left holds to, and the fierceness they hold to them.

Honestly I think part of it is that the adherents to the self-proclaimed party of science, most of whom have never taken a science class more complex than what I took in 9th grade (if THAT) have read something about quantum and about observations and beliefs influencing the outcome, and don’t realize yeah, sure, this applies at the quantum level (which is smaller than whatever they can imagine) so that, yeah, sure, if you believe that wave is a particle, or whatever, it might just be so. But you can’t — well, they tried — levitate the Denver Mint by the force of your belief. And believing you’re brave at resisting orange man bad doesn’t make you anything more than a nuisance at which the rest of us roll our eyes.

The problem with this primacy of belief over truth — and tell me, how many times have you come across someone who yells back to reasoned facts “well, that’s what I believe. You can’t tell me what to believe!” (Which is true. you can believe all the counterfactuals you wish. There is a term though for believing — wholeheartedly believing — things you know are not true.  It’s called madness. It never ends well) — is that it ends up corrupting people’s morals as well as their minds.

We’re thus treated to the spectacle of the left saying that the COVID-19 will be “Trump’s Katrina.”

Okay, the sheeple (shabbies) are excused from this, but how many people on the left can AVOID knowing that Katrina was in fact nothing to do with Bush?  That it was not a federal disaster, but a local one? That the local people wouldn’t take federal help.  And that, for that matter, a lot of the bullshit going on was highly imaginary. Like the disaster that was the superdome? Mostly memorex created by the TV stations and “news.”

In that sense it tracks pretty well, honestly. I’m tired of watching the left saying Trump should have acted, etc, etc.

Other than blocking flights from China — probably much too late but ahead of everyone else, really — and releasing emergency funds, what part of this is Trump’s to do?

It’s insane to say “We should be more like China” or Singapore, or whatever. First, no, we shouldn’t be more like China, because we don’t even know what China is like, and neither does ANYONE else.  A characteristic of totalitarian regimes is that information is falsified all up the line.  The other countries “doing all this so well” are small countries, and not divided polities with local control.

Which frankly is good. For us. It means that if some local governments mess up, the whole nation won’t be dying.

Screaming “But Trump” is tiresome and just another form of Orange Man Bad.

Are we in for it with COVID-19?

Who the hell knows. I don’t. I don’t think so, and not just because our medicine is way better than China’s, and frankly Italy’s (no, I don’t want to hear it. I really don’t want to hear it. Italy is not much better than Portugal, which means even amazing medical staff is in trouble for lack of funds/machines, etc.)  I also think honestly it was here way before there, and that the results haven’t been THAT lethal, though probably a lot of deaths early on got counted as flu.

But would I be shocked if in two weeks we’re maxed out on ICU and medical personnel are getting very sick? Waggles hands.  Not particularly.  A little.

I’d honestly be surprised if that’s true ALL OVER, but not if it’s true for our big cities, where social distance is non-existent and a lot of the conditions are less than ideal.

I’d  be surprised if the outcomes for anyone under 80 is as bad as in China, but not for over 80, and there are a lot of people over 80. More than most of us realize.

Of course, whatever happens, EVEN if the crisis is only in San Fran, say, the media is going to pound that drum and make it seem like it’s all over the US and stoke a financial panic which WILL kill more people than the flu in the long run.

And perhaps give us a socialist president — you think Biden is different from Bernie? AHAHAHAHAH.  His cabinet would be Obama’s third term. — The only way we get out of that is by shooting our way out. Which I don’t want, if I can help it.

But, it’s all out of my hands. Like so many things are.

When half the nation doesn’t believe objective truth exists, they don’t even realize they’re telling poisonous lies.  And people love themselves a good panic. Particularly with themselves as potential victims.

Hold on to the sides of the boat. The water is going to get rough.

Wash your hands, keep distance if you can. DO NOT PANIC.

In the end we win, they lose.  The question is only how far away the end is.

234 thoughts on “Lies and Truths

    1. “Good Facts. As opposed to Real Facts. Facts the government has endorsed.”
      –Babylon 5, The Deconstruction of Falling Stars

        1. I’d be willing to loan you my DVDs (long ago converted to MP4 format), via an honor-system electronic loan: I share my files with you, I don’t watch them while you have them, and you promise to delete them when you’re done watching them. If you’re interested, contact me at (my first name) dot (my last name) courtesy of Google’s email service.

      1. 3 inch monitor off a tug boat (seen one remove a ladder from a storage tank)
        Or, we once had a 6 inch on a trailer (also used for tank farm fires) though it wasn’t quite as forceful, but that is one hella ton of dihydrogenmonoxide flowing at fire truck rates.

  1. Like you, I live in flyover country. Due to medical conditions in the family, I’m required to visit a hospital environment twice a week. In that environment there are support elements in the waiting rooms and it’s interesting to listen to the discussions. Most of these folks are not particularly wealthy, more like hard core blue collar folks. There is virtually unanimous agreement that the MSM is exaggerating the ‘pandemic’. Also in the majority is the idea that WTF is going on with having to tell people to wash their hands.

      1. Ditto. Most recently I left plenty of time to take the stairs (I’m slow) and wait at the back until the approach to the check in desk was clear, and was able to keep my distance from everyone and not touch anything. But it was impossible to keep clear of either the doc or the x-ray tech (and vice versa for them). No masks, and with the long asymptomatic period (maybe) if there’s any doubt about how this spreads either of us could’ve had a fun viral-sharing moment for all we know.

        It’s the not knowing what gives the heebie-jeebies. Kind of makes me want to be kinder in memory to all those folks pre-germ-theory-of-disease who mismanaged plagues.

        1. I was west of the Cascades as of Feb 22, in the opening crush at Costco that morning. Not too likely I could have gotten Kung Flu, but my springtime sinus hell (drips into my lungs, and I’ve had infections/pneumonia from such) is at full strength, and does a fair job of imitating coronavirus symptoms. Decongestants are a Really Bad Idea for me, so I just have to grin and bear it.

          I’ll have to get a blood test for something else soon, and if the sinus issue is still ongoing, I’ll use a surgical mask from home. We have a handful of N95 masks, but don’t plan to use them. If necessary, I have a bunch of dust masks I can use to keep my coughs socially acceptable.

          Sure glad we live in to boondocks. So far, one known case in our county; the hot spot is a hair west of Portland.

          1. Oh. KF presents with a *dry* cough. Runny nose and hacking up phlegm are most likely a cold (or as shown by experience) a allergic reaction that goes sideways.

            I’ll take a cold, if that’s what’s offered.

            1. I think the dry cough thing is one of the half-truths– it’s probably a mutation of the “crud, that was this nasty one, and it got into my lungs”. Because the places that I *know* don’t do fake knowledge all mention that runny noses are part of the symptoms.

              It’s a freaking cold. It’s just a dangerous cold.

              1. Whee. Worth noting.

                Signs are it’s a cold, with a bit of sinus issues thrown in. Spent too much time on the ground in conditions where mold spores could be present. Not good, but not Corona-chan.

    1. I’ve given up telling people that I expected a “pandemic” from Day One.

      “Pandemic” – widespread. In the global society, anything will go “pandemic.” HIV is pandemic. Hepatitis is pandemic. Influenza is cyclically pandemic. You would probably have to call rhinovirus “omnidemic.” (No stuffing the globalism rabbit back in the hat here, either.)

      CoVid certainly matches the definition of epidemic in Wuhan. Approaching it in Italy. Who knows (and WHO certainly does not know, for sure) whether it is approaching or already epidemic in the totalitarian states.

      Here? A tad over 1,000 identified cases. I agree with Sarah that there are almost certainly a far larger number who “had a cold, or a mild flu” and it was actually CoVid. By at least a factor of three, or more. Real mortality is almost certainly less than 2%, and probably less than 1%.

      1. Reportedly today Italy has closed down all retail except pharmacy and grocery, and halted all non-necessary travel.

    2. It’s only important if it can hurt orange man. It’s like the current “pandemic team” talking point. Yeah,alot of government was cut but the part that wasn’t cut was supposed to be the spearhead. And they are why testing is so haphazard. But don’t worry. President Bidens VP will make sure never happens again by forcing everyone to pay off the government to live via national healthcare.

  2. I don’t think they do understand that the management failures surrounding Katrina were local. That would require blaming Democrats instead of a Republican. These are the same people who think self-defense is cruel and unreasonable and abortion is A-OK and should be celebrated. Or, for the less extreme, who just think the lefties on TV wouldn’t lie to them.

    The ones I hang around are absolutely blaming Trump for… the CDC flubbing things? I guess?

      1. Pretty much the left’s position on just about everything.
        It’s all about the narrative, and anything that conflicts with that is evil lies and attacks by racist, misogynistic, bigoted racist right wingers. And thus everything they say can safely be ignored. Right up until everything comes crashing down which naturally will be the right’s fault.

    1. The kind of people who believe that having the government control health care is the best solution. Also, the government totally screwed up the response to CoVid-19. They’re managing to DoubleThink without even needing NewSpeak.

      1. And problems with government-run healthcare and other programs are always, always, to be blamed on too little funding flayed away from the citizens.

        I literally saw somebody claiming, the other day, that conservatives starved government programs of funding and then tried to pretend the failures were because the government was inherently bad at doing stuff.

        I don’t even know where to start with people like this.

        1. Especially since the budget numbers showing Trump INCREASED spending are readily available.

          1. But did he increase the funding enough for inflation, cost-of-living adjustments, pay increases needed to attract qualified personnel in this tighter job market, Santa’s Workshop being on strike and all of the other 1,001 reasons for bureaucracies to slough their responsibilities?

            I. Don’t. Think. So.

            1. Part of the problem, which establishment bear their fair part of the blame for, is the use of “baseline funding” as the basis of the Federal budget. Essentially, every government program is designed to increase every year without any other action being taken, and reducing the rate of increase is considered a budget CUT. Thus, they can claim they are cutting the budget while increasing spending, in genuine Oceania fashion. Generally when politicos scream about budget cuts, what they are really crying about is that the rate of increase is below the baseline increase.

              Until baseline spending is taken out of the budget process, the spending and debt will never be reigned in, which is exactly what the establishment wants.

              1. This. About the only Federal department not thinking in those terms is the Department of Defense…which is also the only Federal department that takes actual cuts.

    2. Well, Mr. Trump did fail to scare off the long-time bureaucratic paperwork scientists of the CDC (unlike the EPA). According to all the good and decent progressive scientists, 80% of the Obama-era CDC staff remain intact. You know, the ones who did SUCH a good job with Ebola here in the U.S. that we lost an entire hospital to one case.

      So there is that. Bad Mr. Trump. No bikkie.

    3. They understand. They also understand that their media managed to spin Katrina to greatly hurt Bush politically. This is what they are hoping the virus will allow them to do again, although this time to Trump. Unfortunately for them Trump fights and is good at fighting in this arena.

      1. The number of people who believe a single word they say is also much smaller than it was during Bush’s time. At this point, we don’t have enough world, let alone nation, in common for the country to hold both of us.

        1. MSM’s credibility rating gets to take more hits with crap like Acosta’s whining that calling it a “foreign virus” is somehow xenophobic.

    4. Pretty much the same as blaming the PM for not acting on bushfires. Some asswits tried to light another fire in the Sydney Olympic area according to the news, was witnessed by the locals living there and the fireys were called and fireworks discovered at the site but GlObal W4rm!g, not Greens stupid red tape, politics and idiots.

      Trump could be suited up with the proverbial space suit personally taking blood samples and testing them, and developing a cure and he still wouldn’t be ‘doing enough.’ Over here Tony Abbott personally went out to fight fires in the big bushfire season during his term and Labour bitched about him doing it for camera time, risking his security detail, howled about how he wasn’t taking his job as PM seriously, it should be handled by local government waah, and railed on ScoMo for letting local government handle it.

      1. Trump could be suited up with the proverbial space suit personally taking blood samples and testing them, and developing a cure and he still wouldn’t be ‘doing enough.’

        Yeah, as if Trump showboating is what the nation world needs! He needs to empower the CDC, the same bureaucrats who dawdled, dithered and diddled the onset of this disease.

        Apparently the difference between the $2.5 billion Trump requested and the $8.3 billion check Congress issued is for purchase of cars in other countries for CDC bureaucrats as they travel the world conferring with other countries’ bureaucrats:

        We’re learning how to beat coronavirus, but health care workers need more training
        By Betsy McCaughey
        … Last week, Congress enacted a whopping $8.3 billion coronavirus emergency bill. It’s larded with giveaways to international groups and projects overseas, including money for the CDC to purchase “official motor vehicles in foreign countries.” The agency ought to be called the Center for the Disbursement of Cash Around the World.

        Paying to fight disease overseas is smart, but the bill goes overboard. The bureaucrats running the federal health agencies need to adjust their globalist biases and focus on protecting Americans.

        The bill ignores one of the most urgent needs — an aggressive infection-control campaign to prepare hospital staff. That’s a serious oversight. The incident last week at St. John’s Episcopal Hospital in Far Rockaway, Queens, shows why.

        On March 3, an Uber driver walked into the St. John’s emergency room unknowingly ­infected. He complained of flu-like symptoms, but the staff sent him home. He returned sicker a few hours later. By the time he was put in isolation, up to 40 doctors, nurses and other hospital staff had contact with him and are now being monitored. Worse, the incident exposed ­numerous patients and hospital visitors to the virus.

        Expect this mistake to be ­repeated all over the city and nation, needlessly infecting patients and hospital staff. …

  3. >> how many people on the left can AVOID knowing that Katrina was in fact nothing to do with Bush?

    Well, the left lives in a bubble and never sees any news/opinions that aren’t from the MSM, Wash Post/NY Times, etc. They fervently believe that conservatives are the ones in the bubble since we all watch only Fox News and brainlessly parrot those talking points. When you talk with one of them (I know, it’s torture), they can’t even understand that we are forced to actively take steps to see other points of view besides the dominant MSM. We can’t avoid the MSM, etc. But they are simply immersed in it.

    1. > bubble

      I was chatting with a friend the other day and he suddenly went off on an anti-Trump tirade. I asked him what his problem was, and got a blast of crazy along the line of Trump killing kittens, causing global warming, blowing the dikes at Katrina, digging potholes in the street in front of his house… stuff he certainly should know is BS.

      “Joe, do you get *any* news that’s not from Facebook?”

      The answer was, essentially, “No.”

      We had always pretty much agreed on politics; if anything, he was a bit more extreme than I am, having actually *met* Hillary Clinton in person. There being general agreement, politics was one of the things we seldom discussed. So I had no idea how far left he’d swung in the Facebook bubble. And all this craziness he now defends with shrieking-monkey fits; it looks like a 35-year friendship is getting rocky, not because I disagree, but because I won’t climb aboard the Crazy Train too.

      There’s no room for dissendents on the Crazy Train…

        1. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least. He’s of Portuguese extraction and looks like Larry Correia’s bigger, biker brother…

          During the height of the Puppy mania he was scheduled for a business trip coincident with once of the larger SF conventions. I offered to buy him a ticket if he’d just wander around with a badge saying, “HI! I’M not LARRY CORREIA!”, but he said his schedule was probably too full for any outside activity while he was there…

          Joe is one of those people who lacks the censor that tells people “maybe you shouldn’t say that”, plus his idea of a quiet comment is closer to what other would call “outside voice.” And he’s… excitable.

          Well, I tried, anyway. “Ah, Captain… it would have been *glorious*!:

      1. Where do I get my news? Fox, CNN, Washington Post, Manchester Union Leader. It’s a constant battle with high blood pressure brought on by the amount of salt I have to take with the news.

        1. I seldom actively seek out “news”, but on the occasions I do, one is as good as any other. They’re all just fronts for a handful of aggregators; Reuters, AP, etc. and run most stories right off the wire with no changes.

  4. I also think honestly it was here way before there, and that the results haven’t been THAT lethal, though probably a lot of deaths early on got counted as flu.

    Washington State jumped from one to five pretty much over night, and waaaaaay down at the bottom they mentioned that two of the cases were “presumed” because they’d actually died before anybody knew it was even in the states, but they were going to test the bodies.

    1. Also one of the deaths at the Kirkland nursing home turned out to have a version of the virus that dated back to early January. So it’s been in Washington for some time now. Interesting how long it takes to build up steam.

      1. Just found out that a family friend’s mom is in that nursing home– and was just diagnosed with Corona.

        Really, really hoping that a lot of the issue was folks just not getting help because “it’s just a bad cold.” When you’ve got four folks deathly sick before you figure out things are odd…..

        1. That, and they had a big Mardi Gras party for all the residents and visitors, all in the same place, _after_ they knew some residents were infected with Bad Stuff. And after some nurses were already wearing masks, because they knew about the Bad Stuff.

          Yay.

            1. BIL mother is in a nursing home, in Portland area, somewhere. She is:

              * 89
              * Has Cancer, that is palliative care. Aggressive care would buy them weeks, maybe. (Don’t remember what kind, but it is Aggressive.)
              * Has deep into Dementia
              * Tiny, probably 90#’s soaking wet

              Haven’t talked to him. But I’m sure both he, his sister, their spouses, grandchildren, are planning for the worst.

              I hope the friends mother comes through this. Sending good wishes.

              My mother is 85. Excellent health. Very active. Has her own home & lives there. She, with same BIL, and her daughter, just got back from the women college basketball finals in Los Vegas. Who knows what cotangents they encounter. She is currently at Amaranth (Masonic Family) State Grand Court (maybe 120 people max, so not “violating” state decree). She isn’t going to stop living her life.

  5. But would I be shocked if in two weeks we’re maxed out on ICU and medical personnel are getting very sick? Waggles hands. Not particularly. A little.

    It’s much more likely even if the number of folks who should be at the ICU is lower– just because it makes it easier to get people to GO to the ICU.

  6. We got low on chili beans last night (don’t judge me!) so I did a Walmart run. Checked the toilet paper section, yeah, they’re out; checked the dried rice and beans, they’re out. Boxed ramen was out, cup o noodles was fine. Toothpaste took a hard hit. Anything you buy a week or two at a time looked like it was low, if not out.
    Canned goods and noodles were fine, bottled drinks, medicine and stuff, the things you want if you’re expecting to BE sick, they’re all fine.

    Just the stuff you want to have when you think you can’t make it to the store was out.

    What I did not see was a single person restocking shelves. Several carts full of stuff to restock, but nobody was around. Not as many employees manning back counters, either, although a higher than normal number of checkouts were open.

          1. Keep in mind that most vodka is 80 proof, or 40% alcohol.
            What you really want is pure grain alcohol, one brand is Everclear, at 95% alcohol.

            1. You can use it to build your own hand santizer. Final alcoholic content must be 60% or higher. Fudge the math to 70% to be safe:

              2/3 cup of rubbing alcohol
              1/3 cup aloe vera gel (I imagine you could sub in some other type of goo. Say detergent for double the whammy?)
              Mixing bowl
              Spoon
              Funnel
              Two-ounce spray bottle or liquid soap container
              Masking tape and pen or marker for labeling the container (or adhesive labels)

                1. Yes, but again, it’s a corrosive and hard for repeated use on the skin. 1/3 c bleach + 5 and 1/3c water makes a good batch of disinfectant to add to clean rags to use as disinfectt. Wear gloves and toss rags in a wash basket after each use.

        1. Makes me wish I still worked in a print shop — and they still used alcohol dampened presses. ‘Cause we used to get 55’s of “anhydrous” isopropyl.

        2. You saw where they said 60 or 70 percent was better than 90 percent, because 90 percent just fries the outside of cells and doesn’t get inside.

          Water. It’s good for riding shotgun with the killer.

          1. I saw that story!

            WAAAAAaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy down at the bottom, they said “oh, by the way, this is for bacteria. Anything over 60% works fine on viruses.”

            So not being wasteful, still a good idea, and honestly using the sanitizer as a chaser after you’ve used soap with water is a better idea, but eh.

          1. How about sterile alcohol wipes (like those used to disinfect skin before an injection). I have a box (of 100) and change of those, because they get shipped to me every so often when I get refills of the inject-able medicine that I take for MS 3 days a week. They can also be found in a lot of stores and may not be on everyone’s radar.

            1. I’ll hit the liquor store too, because it’s next door. Look, if I’ve NOT had it, and it hits, I’m going to need cheap Port Wine. I mean, why waste the expensive one on a sore throat?

          2. Go to one of the big box hardware stores and check the paint aisle for “paint thinner.” They have isopropyl alcohol by the quart or gallon.

            It’s lousy as paint thinner; I’ve never understood exactly why it’s there, unless it’s a carryover from the states that outlawed sales of acetone.

            1. Be VERY careful to check the labeling of any alcohol from a big-box, hardware, paint or woodworking store. The stuff used for thinning shellac, etc. is DENATURED ALCOHOL, which has METHANOL in it. Methanol, aka wood alcohol, is deadly if ingested, and any alcohol is easily absorbed thru skin, also the vapors can be inhaled.

              Best to stick with the pharmacy stuff which is usually ISOPROPYL at 70% or 91%. Or Everclear which is nearly pure ethanol. 🙂

              1. Ethyl alcohol is also a poison! The LD50 for a 180 pound adult is about 24 ounces of 100% ethanol. It’s just not as poisonous as the others, and some people seem to enjoy the symptoms.

                1. If you drink the 100% stuff a lot less than 24 ox will kill you. It is VERY hydroscopic and will burn any flesh it touches by sucking the water out of it.

                1. Your own what? I’m pretty sure making your own beer/wine/mead is legal these days, but I don’t know about methanol….

          3. You might want to check out povidone-iodine (generic for Betadine). Because it can be used to make methamphetamine (does anybody cook their own meth now that the cartels got into the business?) it’s a behind-the-counter item at pharmacies. (Since it’s not obvious, it *might* not be sold out. Maybe.

            The ‘zon sells it in various forms, and a quick check says it’s in stock in various sized bottles. Didn’t look at the swabs or wipes.

          4. *quietly gives thanks for her mental block of “wait, aren’t we almost out of that?” where she gets it home and finds out she did that three times already*

        1. The new story is that hydrogen peroxide is of little to no use as a bacteria killer.

          Seems like something someone could check for themselves easily enough if they had a microscope, but it seems to be mostly “studies” now.

          1. It may not – because people don’t check their medicine cabinet for expired often enough. Durn stuff comes apart even in an unopened bottle in a dark closet.

            For a “field expedient,” dissolve one tablespoon OxiClean ™ in a cup of warm water. (About all you want to use, unless you don’t mind different colored fingers for a while.) Immerse affected part for a timed 60 seconds, or apply a gauze pad soaked with the solution for the same time.

            For Grandma’s vodka, trade exposure time for the lower alcohol content. Unless you have a $SPOUSE$ that makes Polish cookies – when I finally tracked down where I could get 180 proof, I bought six liters. Still unopened, those, she’s been far too busy to putz around in the kitchen.

            1. Many states limit to 151 proof. Not all. The “Everclear” in Iowa, Minnesota, and South Dakota is 151 proof. Go to Wisconsin and it’s 190 proof. Also, look next to the Everclear at whatever other ‘rectified spirit’ is likely being sold – same thing, but without the premium name and price.

              1. Vet supply will usually have real everclear level stuff– depending on the state that will either be very expensive, or require a vet license, or both. My mom kept a bottle of proper everclear behind the toilet when I was growing up because you use it to operate on cattle– wash the skin, slash this on or use a clean cotton cloth to let it soak a bit, the cow doesn’t notice you cutting her skin open.

                Oddly, none of us ever tried to drink the stuff. :innocent:

                1. Only takes one attempt to convince there MUST be a better way.
                  If anyone truly wishes to sample 190 proof, pour into the bottle’s cap – that’ll be more than plenty.
                  Yes, been there. It’s solvent. It’s fuel. It’s medicine. What it is not, is a decent drink.

          2. Poking around, the only specifics I can find is that some bacteria are able to sometimes survive the oxidizing process, and then if they’re a variety that isn’t killed by oxygen the secondary route for killing them doesn’t work. (Duh!)

            What I can’t find is any kind of specifically medical advice on the matter, besides the usual “dude, it kills your cells, too, be careful” warnings.

    1. Given that you see people buying a month’s word of food and supplies the minute they hear there might be a snowstorm (at least around here) I am not surprised by any of this. My favorite was people without generators buying weeks worth of perishables, especially milk (its always milk) before Hurricane Sandy, never mind that it was predicted that there would likely be lengthy power outages, and thus without electricity and thus refrigeration, those perishables would go bad. Okay, they did also grab tons of bottled water, but on the other hand, plenty of canned goods, rice, dried goods, etc., And can I say that not having had electricity for a week, the joy of having a stove/oven that works on natural gas, thereby enabling cooking and COFFEE!

      FYI, a great food to stock up on that lasts if kept dry-matzoh.

      1. Our supplies include basic bread-making supplies. Our ancient gas stove doesn’t need electricity, and so far the gas supply has never been interupted. After the first week it’s *really boring* sitting around in the half-light or candlelight, and making some bread for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is way better than sitting there doing nothing.

        If the gas goes out too, we have propane and naptha cookers, but regular baking is wasteful of fuel compared to tortillas, pancakes, or pita bread.

        After the first week of sitting in half-dark or candlelight, cooking and cleaning up are things you look forward to, because it’s *really boring* when it’s too dark to read.

        1. Why I love the Samsung Nook app. Can’t read anything that isn’t downloaded, because Internet is out because it takes power (whether piggybacking off of mobile phones or not … power out, then towers usually have an issue or overloaded). We have a (very) small generator. We can power top off the devices, & run the freezer enough to keep the cold packs going. But then if we generally going to loose power then it is going to be freezing outside & in the garage, so if we really have to, just prop the dang thing open.

          Cooking. We have Colman cook stoves, backpack stoves, trailer (what? Should I have lead with that?), at least currently. Lights. Lots of flashlights, some even lantern type, gas Colman lights.

          Heat. Woodstove … for now anyway. At least 3 or 4 years worth of wood. Furnace is gas, but fans don’t work without power.

          We just do not loose power enough around here to justify having whole house backup for anything.

      2. Reminds me of the protagonist in “Alas, Babylon!” who ran out and filled his freezer with steaks and ice cream just before the nukes and EMP blew the power plants and distribution lines.

        The dogs ate well for the next few days.

        1. Lots of Ice Cream and Steaks eaten by everyone.

          He also quadrupled his milk product order because of his brother’s & neighbors kids … like that did him any good. He’d been better off finding his own milk cow or milk goats, not that he had the time. Might have recently reread.

      3. I buy the boxed UHT-treated milk up to case-sized numbers, and rotate by date. Never (well, rarely) goes bad even if you go over the Best By date. Taste isn’t great straight but better than nothing or spoiled ‘fresh’, and I rarely drink straight milk anymore. Perfectly fine for sauces and baking, putting in tea, etc..

      4. And can I say that not having had electricity for a week, the joy of having a stove/oven that works on natural gas, thereby enabling cooking and COFFEE!

        D’Oro instant freeze-dried espresso.

        Awesome, awesome stuff, you can even make a bottle of water from the fridge into passable coffee.

    2. >> “We got low on chili beans last night (don’t judge me!) so I did a Walmart run. Checked the toilet paper section, yeah, they’re out; checked the dried rice and beans, they’re out.”

      Try smaller, less-known stores. I noticed the same at my Walmart, but I had to hit a small grocery store on the way back for unrelated reasons and they were better stocked.

      1. I figured that was likely, but I have our supplies from when I was worried the snow might shut things down, plus case-sales. ^.^

        Thank you for the tip, though.

      2. Toilet paper was gone. Plain pasta was heavily dented. Other stuff — was kinda various what vanished.

    3. Suddenly came down with a bad fever last night, complete with trembling because I felt cold. Calmly ennumerated symptoms and noted the lack of sniffles and coughs. Still headachy now. Just a flu, which we are also entering the season for here.

      Because I keep a stock of stuff here we’re not worried about supplies.

    4. Local store is out or all but out of name brand TP. The couple store brands? Fill the shelves as best they can (with MANY tags reversed to show nothing). The one store brand that is on weekend-ish sale? “Limit 2″ and I’d be shocked if they any left by noon today.

      Fun(??) bit: There are two or three store brands. The ones that they don’t mind being associated with have either the store (regional, not national) name OR have the same first part UPC code. The stuff they are NOT so proud of (more cheap than simply inexpensive” has a “folksy” name – and a different starting UPC code number. This sort of thing seems to be true for all stores/regions – the names vary, but isolation level is the same.

  7. … the self-proclaimed party of science, most of whom have never taken a science class more complex than what I took in 9th grade

    Unfair! AOC is recipient of a pwestigious MIT Award for her contributions to Microbiology.!

    Admittedly, it was a second-place finish for a High School science fair project, but is an AWARD FROM MIT all the same! Did you ever receive any High School science project awards? I didn’t think so!

    Unsurprisingly, she won her award for research on Free Radicals:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won a prestigious science-fair prize for research involving free radicals
    [SNIP]
    In 2007, Ocasio-Cortez won a prize at the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair in microbiology. The ISEF isn’t your standard panorama-filled science fair: It’s the largest pre-college scientific research event in the world. She entered in her senior year of high school with a project on Caenorhabditis elegan (C. elegan) lifespan extension, with her findings indicating that “antioxidants could potentially help prevent degenerative illnesses induced by oxidative stress.”

    “We expect that the lessons she learned during ISEF—the importance of evidence-based science, clear communication and team work—will translate well in her work on Capitol Hill.”
    [SNIP]
    If her high-school microbiology career is anything to go by, America can now count on her being a strong voice for science in Congress.

      1. Meanwhile how much CO2 (and other gasses) did those two recent volcanic eruptions spew into the atmosphere?

    1. FREE the RADICALS!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!
      (I’m sorry; that just grabbed my fingers and wrote that.) I think I’m over it. I hope.

    2. How.. how could she not know that ALL life on earth is carbon-based. That the CO2–>O2 cycle is absolutely fundamental to the survival of all humanity. That the only things that aren’t serious environmental hazards from modern industry are CO2 and water.

      I mean, I’ll back you if you want to run a scare on petroleum byproducts causing de-masculinization of any species (including humans) subject to responding to industrial estrogen mimemtics. Or the dangers of switching to mercury-based products that might end up in landfills.

      I’m your fighting Agaricomycetes for green reform right here.

      But… Going full climate stasis retard? Why? Why?

      1. There is a video on yt about what if we had twice the oxygen, and also goes into “what if we lost all oxygen on earth for five seconds”. Entertaining.

        Pointing out the co2->o2 cycle as being necessary hasn’t quite worked for me. Pointing out that more greenery means more co2 sink means more bushfire unless you also do more brush clearing and build more dams usually results in bluescreen of death then reeeeeee! How dare you question science!!!!1

        1. If our atmosphere was 42% oxygen, many common fuels and chemicals would ignite spontaneously. Once started, fires would be almost impossible to put out. That much oxygen would also burn our lungs out.

          All die. O the embarrassment.

          On the bright side, it would allow bugs and spiders to evolve to enormous size, like the giant dragonflies of the Carboniferous.

        2. FIVE seconds? Annoying and inconvenient, but I suspect the overall change after FIFTEEN seconds (FIVE sans O2, TEN to recover) could summed up as “not much.” As for doubling O2? Oh, that’d be nasty. More fires, more NASTY fires, toxicity issues…

          “How are you question science?!” is amusing as you are not questioning, you are APPLYING.
          Humans… amazing creatures. There are times I’d like to be just a bit less amazed, thanks.

            1. The oxygen in all the silicates would probably be even more interesting than the water.

              No, take that back. Water is in our body. The fact that our footing got –interesting would merely be a secondary factor.

        3. The other interesting thing is that when the greenery dies and decomposes, it puts all that CO2 back into the atmosphere. The only way to get a true CO2 sink out of it is to cut it down and make good, lasts for centuries furniture out of it. So clear cut the hardwoods and make guitars out of them.

        4. then reeeeeee! How dare you question science!!!!1

          First Rule of Science: If a hypothesis is not falsifiable, it isn’t Science.

            1. We make up rules, but for some reason the Universe doesn’t always follow them.

              There are three possible responses when that happens: figure out better rules, blame the Universe — or deny that it ever happened.

    3. I’ve worked with numerous MIT grads. We used a very similar curriculum and interacted frequently. I have never been impressed.

    4. Our school never wet the Science Faire route.

      OTOH, I *did* win the 3M Creativity Award my Senior year . . .

  8. One positive benefit from this media panic is that people are actually having to think about what a President Biden or President Sanders would do in this situation, and it’s a frightening thought.
    Sanders especially. He’d probably order all the pharmaceutical plants burned down, order all the epidemiologist into gulags, shoot the kulaks for hoarding TP, and announce a new Five Year plan to combat this illness.

    1. Tbh, I wouldn’t say that far. But he’d definitely be forcing pharma to make motions that it was providing free shit for victims. That he would be simultaneously blaming pharma for not having a test and cure and selling at even 1% over cost as well as pushing for unlimited sick time would be overlooked

      1. As much as l truly do like the idea of paid illness leave for any and all (having just had a change of job status thrust upon me… and yes, it was Not Good) I have seen all too many slackers and scammers that I damn well would find a way to be “sick” now and forevermore if such were to happen – despite any and all alleged safeguards. Grifting bastages are *CREATIVE* in the absolute worst way(s). DAMNIT.

        1. Yep. Even if it was forced, you’d still have the cries of the folks that had used their days up already and that it wasn’t fair to be quarantined and not paid for it.

          Sadly I have pto and it actually disincentivizes use for sick time. For instance, I have 48 hrs saved sick time but can only use it after pto is exhausted. But I have planned vacation in may so I gotta keep 27 hrs in pocket. So I can only take 2 days or so of sick time.

          1. My son (and now most of Oregon, except, you know, public employees) have PTO. They earn X% per hour worked. They can only accumulate *160 hours (less than 5 years employment), or 240 hours (over 5 years to ??? years), before they don’t accumulate anymore … if they are properly managing then they burn hours (ask to have them paid, or take time off), to keep hours below their limit, so not limited to max per year. But, here is the key, … PTO covers sick, vacation, and holiday pay (even if not open during holidays, they don’t get paid for them). NO ONE takes PTO for sick. They’ll come to work sick, if they can actually work, thus spreading the germs wide & far.

            * Hour probably not accurate. When it went in pretty sure it calculated out to standard base holiday hours + 80 hours sick leave/year (use it or loose it annually) + vacation hours/year (based on service length, use it or get paid for unused hours on hired anniversary); or just under that many hours. Difference is basically worker chooses how to use it. Problem is no one uses it for sick, unless absolutely to sick to get to work.

            1. It’s outright Catbertian, really. And though (despite appearances, yes) I was never “on the farm” beyond the briefest of visits, PTO is somehow still/always Power Take-Off to me.

            2. We literally shifted over last December. Before that it was 120 hrs vacation, 80 sick with sick rolling over somewhat indefinitely. I’ve got 48 hrs or so left (I intentionally burned before switch) but I cannot use them until I run out of pto.

              Part of my grump is that I had to take 36 hrs to move so lost backstop I had planned. But it still breaks the reasoning for having sick time if it just gets used for vacation and peope come in sick.

              1. “But it still breaks the reasoning for having sick time if it just gets used for vacation and peope come in sick.”

                Yes. Agree.

                Hubby’s company started at 2 weeks vacation (plus a lot of “lack of work”) time off up to 5 years. Added a week from 5 years through 10, and other week at 10 – 15, maxing out at 5 weeks vacation 15+. Sick leave was 80/hours per year, rolling over continually until 6 months. At which point you used up vacation as Long Term Disability kicked in. Until Long Term Disability wasn’t company offered anymore.

                Where I worked. We had 2 weeks vacation until year 5; 3 weeks year through year 10; added a day for every year after year 10; indefinitely. I ended up with 17 days total, would have been 18, but I retired before my anniversary. Sick leave? Only difference between before mandate and after, was “track it”. Essentially even with the social aspects of the job (as in NONE), the word was, if you are sick, don’t come into the office. Please login & work if you can, if you can’t, note it as sick leave. No doctor’s note needed. Surprisingly no one took advantage. But then small office.

                Another trend that discourages using sick leave, unless you create a hazard. It is amazing how over the counter can hide symptoms, especially a part time job. Is when unused sick leave translates into paid leave and contributes to retirement. Examples – some governments where you “retire”, but not pulling retirement because accumulated sick/vacation are converted to paid leave. Meanwhile, still getting holidays, health insurance, and retirement accumulations. Or they get paid a flat amount for Sick/Vacation unused. Even if it is like my son’s where you can’t accumulate over X amount, you still can “burn” (have it paid periodically) to keep it from going over X amount. None of which encourages people to actually stay home if sick.

  9. I suspect these are the people applauding Gov. Cuomo for creating a ghetto. Well, what do you call it when a predominately Jewish area centered on a synagogue is isolated from the rest of society and no one is permitted in or out? I know that’s not what the governor thinks it looks like. To him it probably looks like “a sensible precaution just like the ones taken by the PRC government” in Whuan. To someone who is getting ready to teach about the 1920s-30s in Europe? Sorry, Guv, your optics stink.

    I’m tired of the media. I’m really tired of the hysteria. Where are the [censored] adults? I know, the ones who think they are the grown-ups in the room are the ones saying “orange man bad, central government good,” but in polysyllabic words.

    /rant off

    1. I don’t think there are any adults on the Left, unless you count the ones spreading ignorance with some giant farm implement. But calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.

      1. Washington State is doing a lot better handling the deceleration of the COVID19 roll-out now that they’re not following the CDC “guidelines” about the spread only being a concern if the individuals had travelled to (or had close contact with travellers from) China.

        I mocked them for being more concerned about Spreading Stigma(TM) but if the CDC had followed this worry, they’d’ve found some way to get the Federal regs requiring that NO-ONE can use any test kits the CDC didn’t design themselves. From scratch. (I mean, all they had to do was get an executive order….) so they had to fake-limit themselves to the Chinese angle.

        Shutting down massive disease vectors like Emerald City Comic Con and limiting social gatherings is a good thing.

        1. My understanding was the CDC test monopoly was one of those little surprises left from the previous administration. [spit] Reversed by order of POTUS.

      2. adults on the Left, unless you count the ones spreading ignorance with some giant farm implement.


        That doesn’t take an adult. When I was 12 years old I used to spread bullshit with a giant farm implement. In the snow. And I couldn’t go inside until I got it backed into the shed.

      3. They have people.. (alright, humanoid-al creatures) with sufficient chronological age to pass simple legal definition. As for genuine cognitive ability? Ox figure even he (and ox SLOW!) can out-think most of that lot. Possibly even while snockered. This NOT make ox happy.

  10. Italy is not much better than Portugal

    Italy is also a very old country — by which I mean it has a significant number of elderly (I’ve seen reports asserting its is the oldest population in Europe – yeah, whatever; I don’t put great credence in the numbers.) Old folks are highly likely to die from COVID-19 because they are highly likely to die, period. Their immune systems are already compromised. If this don’t kill ’em something else will, and before not very long.

    America’s demographics are not the same as Italy’s. We are not comparable.

    Whatever — the Left is gonna scream because all of their politics depends on panicking the people. The MSM has commercials to sell and clicks to bait. It is irresponsible but … well, look at who it is and tell me what they know about responsibility. I doubt it will require a bigger blog.

      1. Sounds like our county. (It’s been a retirement destination, especially with refugees from California. Like us…) So far, we only had one case. When Corona-chan comes to visit, yikes!

        Another factor mentioned was that the afflicted region in Italy has poor air quality.

  11. It wasn’t that local people in New Orleans wouldn’t take Federal aid, it’s that the LA governor didn’t want to bother to go through the necessary legal steps to call in the Feds. She just wanted them to help *anyway*.

    1. IIRC The LA governor didn’t want to ask a Republican President for help.

      Other State governors had states hit almost as bad but were quick to ask for Federal Help.

      Of course, the News Media were glad to ignore the idiot Louisiana (Democrat) governor and blame Bush. 😈

      1. As I recall there was also considerable animosity between the mayor of New Orleans and Louisiana’s governor (both Democrats) that resulting in bureaucratic snafus and inaction as each attempted to tar the other and only agreed when the MSM offered to tar Bush for them.

        1. Well that and the two Democrats waited to order evacuations of areas at high risk for flooding, and left buses they could have used to help evacuate people, parked. Sort of like how there and gone candidate Bloomberg told before just before Sandy (about 24 hours) there was no need to evacuate flood zones in the City and that the City would be “open for business as usual” the day after the storm, before later backtracking. Meanwhile NJ Governor Christie was telling people “get the h-ll off the beach or you are going to die”, to which the Democratic Party media roundly derided him for scaremongering.

          1. … the Democratic Party media roundly derided him for scaremongering.

            In fairness, scaremongering is their franchise and Gov. Christie wasn’t paying the license fees.

      2. Iirc Mississippi towns were hit as bad as everything but maybe new Orleans. You never saw on news because was “normal disaster”

    2. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. it wasn’t their people, it was their government. And they did some sinfully stupid things, like not use school buses to evacuate people.

      1. I want to say, Well, who was it elected their government?

        But being as it was New Orleans there’s no way of knowing, is there?

        I never could figure how they elected a cable executive mayor. Talk about an industry with a reputation for promising far more than gets delivered!

        1. If Louisiana is like most states, the Party system has control over who actually gets to be on the ballots. In my state, that was done in legislature; the citizenry never even heard about it, much less got to vote on it, and few of them even know why the pool of candidates is so small.

          “I don’t care who does the votin’ as long as I do the nominatin’!”

          Or as is the case nowadays, “…as long as I do the countin!”

          1. It is something that the two biggest entities that influence WI government that are NOT of the government or parties are the Wisconsin Education Association and the Tavern League. And for all the damage they might do or have done, the Tavern League is the LESS damaging of those.

            (So help, those tales of Aussies getting Yanks utterly trashed on “mere” beer? There are the OTHER stories where the Aussies got the short end of the stick. Why? Yank, sure. But Wisconsinites. German/Scandinavian ancestry, and well, look where Korbel ships their brandy – all over the world… and then there’s Wisconsin… thirsty, thirsty Wisconsin: “We export 385,000 cases a year, and 139,000 go directly to Wisconsin. That’s one-third of our total production.”

            1. That 2012. Updated:

              “We sold 272,869 cases of Korbel Brandy in 2019 and 148,041 of those cases were sold in Wisconsin. Again, this is HALF of our total production.”

              1. Sheesh, talk about folks enjoying the symptoms of alcohol poisoning…

                But then, what else is there to do during those long frigid winters?

      2. which was in their emergency plan, but apparently the school bus drivers were never told, and the buses ended up in six feet of water….

  12. There are far too many people who adhere to their own beliefs rather than thinking objectively about the facts. That will be our downfall.
    Of course, it’s also hard to know what those facts are, when the self-appointed fact-checkers apply the same belief-based tests to judge those facts.
    Thanx for the post!

    1. It’s hard to know what you don’t know. And I include myself in that. For how long did I *not* perceive that social costs were every bit as “real” as economic costs, and hence unrestricted trade across national borders with communist and other varieties of crook countries was therefore a really, really foolish idea. Or… I could go on. I’m still catching myself discovering “what I believe” about some piece of the poltical, social, or corporate landscape just ain’t so.

      All we like sheep are led astray

  13. The thing is, the ‘You can achieve what you believe’ deal actually works to an extent. And in reverse, as well. As long as your belief is personal physical action associated and in accordance with possibility.

    If you believe you’ll never have a clean fridge, you never will. If you believe you will get the fridge cleaned today, odds are quite good that you’ll pick up a washcloth and start scrubbing. Even if your day gets interrupted by a flat tire and a sick spouse.

    It works to an extent on other people: if you believe you’ll make five sales today you probably will make some sales, if you believe you won’t make any sales you probably won’t. Belief changes your presentation of product to people, that’s all.

    But this breaks down when there’s a inanimate intermediary such as an Amazon between you and the customer. Except not entirely, but the sales become your presentation on social media rather than face to face.

    The breakdown is complete, though, when it comes to things you have no ability to act on, like levitating the mint. Now, if you really wanted to raise the mint, say, six feet, you’d need to go into government and go to work as the flood mitigation guy or whatever and you might actually be able to raise the mint. Eventually. If you could prove it really and truly necessary.

    Personal actions are absolutely required, and that’s where the levitation crowd falls down: they’re going to get what they want by wanting, not acting. Physical actions that lead to the desired result are the key to “What you think about, you bring about.”

    1. So our school district canceled classes this week because of the COVID-19, and I’ve been getting an awful lot of yard work done because my day isn’t broken up into small chunks because of drop-offs and pickups. (Youngest is in half-day kindergarten, so I have slightly less than a three-hour chunk in the morning.) This is the yard that’s pretty much too big for me to manage, but it’s amazing what three hours or more a day* will do for that.

      *A three-hour chunk of time is a lot bigger when it doesn’t require fitting in a post-work shower and change, or keeping strict track of time. Or needing to make breakfast.

    2. Good point. There’s nearly always some bit of truth in the big fat stupid like people are being taught to swallow.

      Why the motte and bailey tactics of all the SJWs work so well, no doubt.

  14. Just spotted this — link s to posting at NRO gangblog The Corner, so you will have to go there for the NY Times link about the Federal bureaucracy’s mishandling of the coronavirus response

    ‘Stop Testing’
    By Rich Lowry
    March 11, 2020 3:13 PM

    A maddening report in the New York Times about how the federal bureaucracy did everything possible to delay testing and squelch innovative work-arounds. Trump would do himself a favor if he expressed some outrage over this and fired someone involved in the fiasco. This, too, is the “deep state” at work.

    1. For those wanting a more complete summary without resorting to clickig through at the Times, try this Reason item:

      How Government Red Tape Stymied Testing and Made the Coronavirus Epidemic Worse
      FDA and CDC bureaucrats stopped private and academic diagnostic tests from being deployed.
      RONALD BAILEY | 3.11.2020 11:25 AM
      The United States is home to the most innovative biotech companies and university research laboratories in the world. That fact should have given our country a huge advantage with respect to detecting and monitoring emerging cases of COVID-19 caused by the new coronavirus outbreak.

      Instead, as The New York Times reports in a terrific new article, officials at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stymied private and academic development of diagnostic tests that might have provided an early warning and a head start on controlling the epidemic that is now spreading across the country. …

      1. All of which strongly argues that this is, indeed, “Trump’s Katrina.”

        In the sense that he is taking the blame for a sclerotic bureaucracy’s failure to efficiently recognize a problem and mobilize to address it.

          1. Hey, the NY Times went to 11 on the hyperbole/slander today by calling it “Trump’s Chernobyl”. Never mind that Trump has spent his entire presidency saying that we are far to reliant on China and that we need to control our borders. The same folks that a screaming about Trump and the response to the virus are the very same ones demanding open borders, even now. First rule of stopping spread of any disease that has crossed national boundaries is to control if not outright close the borders.

            1. First bill on the house floor, or at least the one news is talking about, after getting the funding for COVID-19 pill passed, is a bill to prevent President Trump from closing borders …

              Umm, wait, what?

              Pelosi has lost her freaking mind, and is an idiot.

                1. Given that the Democrats routinely rant about how it was all the “old backward racists” who elected Trump (and voted for Brexit, etc.,) and their clear desire for power by any means necessary, I don’t think it is unthinkable that at least some of them wouldn’t mind not only a widespread epidemic, in true “never let a crisis go to waste” mode (which I think pretty much the entire party is rooting for) but that they will be quite happy if a lot of those “old backward racists” die as a result. When you see prominent party members promoting and retweeting people who openly call for death of political opponents and indeed “all white people” as some have, it is not hard to believe that the politicians doing the promoting and retweeting share the same desires and goals.

                  1. I think those ‘old backward racists’ are much more likely to survive than a bunch of clueless ‘Progressives’ that can’t tell the difference between truth and lies.

                    Leftists had better hope they don’t get the apocalypse they’re screaming about, because those red-state rednecks are much better equipped to survive it.

                    1. Yeah, but that’s not what they’re thinking:

                      http://archive.is/aGGem

                      From the London Times economics editor, Sunday:

                      “Don’t take this the wrong way but if you were a young, hardline environmentalist looking for the ultimate weapon against climate change, you could hardly design anything better than coronavirus.

                      Unlike most other such diseases, it kills mostly the old who, let’s face it, are more likely to be climate sceptics. It spares the young. Most of all, it stymies the forces that have been generating greenhouse gases for decades. Deadly enough to terrify; containable enough that aggressive quarantine measures can prevent it from spreading. “

                    2. I’m not sure what’s supposed to be the wrong way to take it. Is this person happy about people dying or accusing young, hardline environmentalists of biowarfare?

                    3. Well, when I read it, it sounds like he’s finding a silver lining…. and if anyone gets ideas, he hopes the cops are as confused as you were.

                    4. One advantage those ‘old backward racists’ have is they know how to wash their hands.

                      They also tend not to poop in public – and avoid those who do.

              1. Congress has been creating permanent solutions to temporary problems ever since the Republic fell.

                Pelosi, OTOH, was born and raised i Baltimore, and has lived in San Francisco and DC since election to Congress in 1987; she’s got to dial “1” to phone Reality — and even then usually gets a wrong number.

                Pelosi Warns ‘Civilization as We Know It’ is At Stake if Trump Wins
                Nancy Pelosi told an audience of college kids at Northeastern University that “civilization as we know it” is at stake as Trump runs for re-election. …

      2. Just more proof that President Reagan was correct when he said that the scariest words in the English language are “I’m from the government and I am here to help”.

  15. And people love themselves a good panic.
    There seems to be a need for a struggle, some great fight to live or crusade to win, in the human psyche. So, we get the blowing up of the Wuhan Flu into Black Death 2020 (which would be a semi-cool name for a movie or a metal band), or the need to get 1%ers (say homosexuals or transgenders or polygamists) their proper amount of social justice and “equality”. Civil rights have mostly been won, we’re prosperous to the point of obesit killing our poor, we’re pretty secure (except where prog idiocy purposely seeks to undermine it), and we’re really healthy (ditto the progs).

    This is why I’ve never believed that with infinite energy (or vast amounts of wealth) that we’d evolve into some brain-only race or ascend into ethereal higher beings, as so much scifi of the 50s-70s would have us believe. Half the people will be too lazy, another half will be too determined to find something wrong they can fix, fight, or better. And a small few in the middle – most likely ODDs – will quietly disappear.

  16. Just boarded my Chicago to Atlants flight. Used to being cheek to jowl but looks like I’ll have the row to myself, and an exit row at that.

    Are people starting to travel less?

      1. Oddly enough, we’ve been getting more planes here in our little airport with the oddly big runway. Large planes, such as never come here unless grounded by an emergency. Not many passengers, no, but the traffic is up.

        Speck is a teeny place, though. That might be part of the draw. Terminal is usually a nearly empty echo unless there’s a big event nearby and all their hotels got full. Haven’t checked, but likely still mostly empty.

        People that want to flee where there aren’t so many people may be a visiting, I suspect. That’d be a bit of a shock. Urban folks in our little neck of the woods.

        Wonder how long they’d last…

      2. Not sure if it is in the us. I know europe was making headlines because of “use it or lose it” regs forcing airlines to fly empty and letting the usual problem children to decry how “capitalism” made that happen

  17. First death of a county resident less than five miles from me.

    90+ in a residential living home, aka “high risk category.”

    I feel sorry for the home, because epidemics of any kind aren’t good, and this one is going to hit them particularly hard. And the family, who just lost someone they loved. Not panicking but staying wary, since my husband isn’t great in respiratory terms.

    1. Yeah, same. Bunch of old folks live here in my little mountains. First case admitted was last night. Which means its probably already out in the wild, just like the regular flu. Highly likely me and mine get it, because we see and interact with everybody. Comes with the job.

      Also highly likely we’ll be just fine, more or less. Ain’t worried. Once the panic dies down, I’ll pick up some supplies on the cheap to replace what got used up once the outlets get flush with the good stuff again.

      Hard luck on the older folks, though. I know a couple that were going in for surgery this coming weekend. No word on whether they’ll go through it or not. They’re naught but eighty or so, but any surgery in your eighties can be chancy. Tough old biddies. Hope it goes alright for ’em.

      The change in weather will help. Flus don’t prosper much when people aren’t packed tight in houses and workplaces and cars all the time. Come the fall, we’ll see how it goes. Smart money will be on being stocked up by then anyhow.

      1. If I recall correctly, coronaviruses in general don’t fare well in heat and humidity; one reason the common cold is not as widespread in warmer months. Like flu, the number of cases tend to drop off rather rapidly once warmer weather hits.

        On thing that might help-a humidifier.

        1. I wonder if the 27°C thing and the hot drinks comes from a misunderstanding of the weather issue….

          1. The ice thing makes me think that it’s folk-advice repackaged with a medical stamp. I remember my grandma was sure that drinking cold drinks made you sick– I think the theory is based on the old humors and bile and stuff theory of medicine?

        1. After my operation, they had this thing I was suppose to use while breathing in — it triggered coughing and, of course, pain — but I used it several times an hour because of all the stuff in the lungs.

  18. After watching Hurricane Katrina, I started to become convinced of the advisability of the Katrina Rule – that in the event of a major disaster requiring Federal intervention, the first thing to do is to find the top two or three Democrats – and shoot them out of hand. Both to fight corruption and to encourage greater diligence. And if you take a look at Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, you can see the need for such a policy.

  19. As someone who only has ever taken 1 biology class (7th grade Life Science) let me just say I’m pretty sure I know biology than most FB commenters, and all the MSM talking heads.

  20. Back if I may to Sarah’s article: I wonder, after 12+ hours of it percolating on the back burner, if this is related to the self-esteem movement. If I’m not subject to any judgement but my own, to any standards but my own, then why should I care about what is ‘true’? Why do I need to conform to ‘truth’ that isn’t mine?

    Does the self-esteem-for-free road lead to solipsism?

  21. You know, do the usual things around cold and flu seasons, but 25% more of it. More hand washing, more cleaning, more vacuuming, trash goes to the can earlier, that kind of thing.

  22. Pretty much agree with this post. Of course, we do have a cluster about 1 county away from me now where an Australian tourist infected at least 10 other people. Darn Californians, skiers, and Californian skiers going all over the world with their germs.

    Iran and Italy are basically in the same state Wuhan was a month ago, and their health care systems are pretty comparable to China’s (mediocre at best.) As long as we ramp up testing like the HHS head says we’re about to do, we should be able to slow it down enough to keep us from being another Italy. I don’t know if we’ll get it pinned down to the level of South Korea though, just because we’ve been a bit slower to get our tests out.

    I’ve now heard of at least 3 possible treatments that could work that have been through their phase 1-2 testing before, and could move to Phase 3 quickly. South Korea’s using the dual-HIV antiviral, there’s also single HIV antiviral treatment (I believe China used this one,) and anti-malarial treatments that seem like they could work in this case.

      1. There were reports that the genome of the virus has elements of HIV in it. Do you suppose it was a San Francisco bat?

      2. China used a single HIV antiviral in their treatment, along with an Antibiotic for secondary infections. South Korea is using a combination HIV antiviral with two medicines in it, that they apparently already had stocked for other purposes. There’s also an Anti-malarial drug that basically helps Zinc pass into the cell walls where it interferes with the RdRP that the virus uses to multiply. All of these have gone through phase 1 and 2 trials in the US already (human safety,) so there’s Phase 3 trials starting up to determine the effectiveness of each treatment in this virus. Most other countries were just throwing things against the wall to see what stuck, without doing the proper double blinding and such.

        The HIV antivirals are actually fairly generic sort of drugs. Remdesivir just mimics the ATP that would normally get stuffed into an RNA strand when replicating, but quickly tangles the entire rna strand up as it’s being copied so it’s useless.

  23. People getting sick in Australia is not encouraging to me on the “summer will make it go away” theory.

    1. Yeah, It’s only a theory, and it more states that it will decline and become less of a hospital buster during the summer, not that it will completely go away. So far, Australia doesn’t have the infection and fatality rate that other places have in the northern hemisphere, and other equatorial places also are having cases, but a lot less severe ones. Australia has had it for almost as long as we have, and they’re sitting at only 3 deaths, and 156 cases. Unfortunately that doesn’t represent extensive testing, but more like the testing we and Canada are doing, so it’s hard to really be sure we’re comparing apples to apples there.

      At the same time, Australians are traveling up here where I live and spreading it around here, so it could be there’s TONS of people infected there, but that they’re not having the same serious complications the northern hemisphere places are having. (The predominant strain is also the Iranian strain of the virus, which was especially deadly in Iran.)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_season On this, there’s 3 charts on the right. two of them show how it’s cyclical on seasons for the flu, and how even out of season there are still a lot of cases of it, but the other graph shows how deaths from the flu drop off a cliff during the summer, which would match what we’re seeing in Australia if they have widespread infections there, but only 3 deaths.

  24. I’m terrible.

    Just filled out my on-line US Census form and entered dragon in Race (Other). 😆

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