On Being Persona Non Grata – Blast From The Past From June 2017

On Being Persona Non Grata – Blast From The Past From June 2017

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You could say I have a contrary disposition.  You could also say water is wet.

My brother who is almost ten years older than I, loved to tease me.  When I started taking languages and literature and emerged as one of the better students and therefore likely to have a career in diplomacy, he once spent a summer night making up a mock-newspaper of my adventures 20 years in the future, when I’d have been declared persona non grata in most of the world’s countries, and sometimes offered money to go away.

It was funny.  What it wasn’t, by then, was really true.

You see, I’ve always had a contrary disposition, and will stick like a Spanish mule, and put my four hooves down as if set in cement, if you try to push me – personally – in any direction.

But by the time he did that I was in college.  And I wasn’t stupid.  At least not stupid in the social-reading sense.

I knew where the power was, even if all the Marxists who wielded power at every institution of learning insisted they were the underdog.  I’d learned in high school that I had to toe the political line or be punished.

And I’m an introvert.  I don’t like scenes.

And I’m human.  I want to be liked and accepted by the group, at least superficially.

And then there was the fact that I thought I’d spend the rest of my life in Portugal where, as a young man from there said on FB yesterday “There are only different kinds of socialists.”  So, there was no point being the voice that cries in the desert.  We remember what happened to such voices, right?

So I went along to go along, and yes, I’m smart enough to pretend.  Also, I’ll be honest, their ideology is a very simple lens.  It’s easy to fake.

I don’t know what changed or when.  I would think it was 9/11, but before that I’d become a fire eating, don’t tread on me Libertarian, the kind who thinks we really can get along without any government.

It was, you know, that a lot of my assumptions about the things the Leftists were right on had started collapsing as I read and understood more: the dangers of overpopulation; ecological disaster looming; the problems of child labor in developing countries.

I’d started reading Sowell on economics, and suddenly it made sense as Marxist economics never did.  And then someone, maybe for a prank, sent me a subscription to Reason then under Virginia Postrel’s editorship.  I fell headlong into “everything the Marxists ever taught me was wrong”  — which is true – but went all the way to the other side of no borders and no government.

I came back with a shock on 9/11.  I think my mind was already laboring at it, because my story Traveling, Traveling is about the dangers of bringing disparate cultures together too fast, and about the fact some people will want their isolation and kill to maintain it.

I still stayed quiet in my public life.  Well, quiet on politics, that is.  Through my thirties and forties, I kept my mouth zipped.  I even tried to pretend. And heaven help me, I must have been very bad at it.

Call it being out of practice in pretending, since in the years of working towards publication I only had to please myself.  I must have been better in Portugal.  Or maybe in Portugal they weren’t on the constant lookout for heresy as progressives have been here, in the last ten years, when their monopoly on information got threatened.

It became obvious, from whispers caught (and my kids heard more, and of course told me.  My kids being darker than I, most people didn’t realize they were mine.  And Kate also heard things) that my career was being curtailed anyway.  They weren’t SURE so I’d be allowed to keep working at a low level, and they watched me all the time.  But I was given no opportunities (hell, I wasn’t allowed to have even chance opportunities) for career advancement just in case I was evil and “conservative” (which in this context means “to the right of Lenin.”)

I still couldn’t come out of the closet and continue being employed.  I did consider just quitting, but Dan asked me to hold on another year.  And besides, the other house ate money by the handfuls, which means though Dan makes enough to support us, the house would suddenly swallow 14 or 15k because a kid fell in the shower and supported himself on the tiled wall.  (Which is when we found out the idiots who flipped the house before we bought it hadn’t put green board behind.  That was…. Er… fun.  When we were done rebuilding walls and putting in mold abatement, my entire earnings for that year had gone to it and taxes.)

So.  I kept my trap zipped and continued working.  I didn’t want to be persona non grata.

I still don’t want to be persona non-grata.  I only started talking about politics, because my (then) agent told me I had to blog every day.  And it’s impossible to blog every day without writing about what matters to you, which – given that I have this wound from the cold war, and it only hurts when I laugh – sooner or later the anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-statism would come pouring out like vitriol.  It just would.

And you’d think in the USA in the twenty first century being against those things would not make you persona non grata.  Except of course it does.

Just the other day there was another announcement for a new magazine for marginalized voices: women, people of color, people of different sexual orientations. And my head kind of twisted.  If they’re marginalized, that means most publishing slots are for conservative white males, right?  This idiot actually went out of her way to say she was opposing the Sad Puppies and promoting marginalized voices.

Will one of you tell me what major publishing house we control?  Baen books is just agnostic on politics, certainly not a “right wing house” and even if it were, it’s not one of the big four.  So, what other major publishing house runs itself by the principles of Sad Puppies?  Much less the principles the idiots think Sad Puppies followed?

And if we’re not in control of any major house, any magazine, why are these people they want to make a new magazine for “marginalized”?  WHO “marginalizes” them?  H*ll most of the editors, publishers and writers in my field seem to be women. It reminds me of being in an all girls’ school in middle school.  And H*ll, if you throw in romance, women vastly outnumber men in all publishing.  As for race, you know, there was never a time ANYONE asked me to state my race or paintchip color (Home depot Spun Gold, thank you) on a submission.  And no one can hear my accent in writing.  So if I was discriminated against, it wasn’t race!

In the end it was this, the screaming like you’re hurt while hitting other people: the active marginalization of conservatives and libertarians and even traditional democrats (even Hamilton would be read out of the current Democratic Party, I think.  And the man was a monarchist who believed in a powerful central government) while screaming that the leftists, communists, socialists and assorted proponents of the ideas that killed 100 million people were the downtrodden ones that sent me running out of the political closet.

Do I like it?  Not much.

The visions of myself, refracted, like mirrors, go echoing through the net.  On the right I get called a happy warrior.  On the left I get called crazier names, including “politically insane.”  Or “fascist.”  Or of course, the old standby “racist, sexist, homophobic” because I refuse to bow to their aesthetics of “good art is that done in the service of the eventual Marxist state.”  (Most of them don’t even remember how that came about, but yeah, that’s it.)

And even those on our side sometimes say you know, I talk too much, I talk too loudly.

I know it loses me readership.  Several people on the left were fans of Darkships before they found out my real politics.

And I never wanted to be persona non grata, whatever Alvarim thought.

But what else can I do?  The more we stay silent and let lies go around the world again and again and again, the greater the chance Western Civ dies.

And for all its faults, western civ, the notion of individual liberty, the power of only semi-fettered markets, have lifted more humans out of poverty than ever before.  They have almost eliminated famines not caused by bloody stupid kleptocracies. They’ve proven the best for avoiding those dystopian outcomes: overpopulation, pollution, famine.

I know which world I want my children and grandchildren to live in.

And if I must be persona non grata, so be it.  I’m human. Like all humans I want to be liked, to belong, to be accepted in the dominant culture of my time.  But when the dominant culture of my time is a poisonous and undermining lie, there are more important things than being liked.  There are more important things than personal success.

At another time, in another place, I’d have stayed quiet in my library, writing my fiction.

But this is not another time.  And we’re not given a choice. [And it is still worth it, even considering everything it’s cost me – SAH]

I’m not a happy warrior.  I fight because I must.

Because everything I believe in depends on it.

154 responses to “On Being Persona Non Grata – Blast From The Past From June 2017

  1. “If they’re marginalized, that means most publishing slots are for conservative white males, right?”

    Ah, therein lies a tale. It is not conservative white males that take up a disproportionate number of slots. It’s liberal white males (and females).
    Of course, the lady who decided to do this magazine (and I wonder if it’s still around) doesn’t understand how this actually works, and that the SP crowd isn’t exactly beloved by traditional publishing, because she doesn’t get that ideology trumps genetics, in the publishing world.

    • It’s a never ending round of having your cake and eating it too.

      Every now and then, usually after screeching about marginalization and how “those people” want everything like the Bad Old Days where life was all white, top to bottom, and male… every now and then will be this off-script outburst about how science fiction was always full of women and various non-conformists, about how the Old White Male Days never actually existed, and wow isn’t the joke on YOU!

      It’s impossible to claim marginalization without erasing half of the field and nearly all of the history. But without that narrative, what would there be to fight against?

      And then someone will forget, again, and will issue a rant on how that history exists and isn’t the joke on you… again.

      And that’s the HISTORY…

      Or someone will forget and will tut-tut about how conservatives aren’t excluded, it’s simply impossible for them to be creative, which is a liberal sort of thing to be.

      How broken does a person’s grasp of reality have to be to pretend that any but the far-left is in control of publishing *today*?

      • Thing is, I would argue that the people in control of publishing aren’t far-left. What they are is a bunch of time-serving placeholders with delusions of grandeur who are mouthing far-left slogans and clichés in an effort to distract from the fact that their poor business decisions and failures to adapt are why they’re failing. Oh, and not infrequently to cover up their financial and sexual predations.

        The real leftists can see this as well, although often subconsciously, which is what is driving a lot of the resentment.

        • I would argue that a great deal of the Progressive/Left Establishment consists of privileged white nitwits and their pet minority tokens. Oh, we aren’t supposed to notice, but anybody who bothers to actually LOOK can see it if they think about it. Just as an awful lot of the social impetus to the anti-Industrial in Victorian Britain came from Aristocrats who were steamed that their fortunes were eroding. The Progressive Impulse isn’t a Social Justice impulse, it’s a will to rule.

          And I’m damned tired of it.

          • You sound surprised. It was always painfully obvious to me that the Left was being run by a clique of snobs who had inherited power and wealth…and were manipulating the system to ensure that upwardly mobile people (like me) could not climb over their incompetent backs.

          • If they were honest with themselves the white progressive anti-racists would be embracing at least one bit of Kipling.

            Almost all their arguments are for the the White Man’s (emphasis on man as well as white) burden. It is the good white men saving brown people and people who do/wish they had vaginas from other white men.

            • If they were honest with themselves the white progressive would admit they are racists.

              • The entire devotion to critical race theory is in part due to the fact that it gives them a framework by which they can claim that they are not racist, and that any condemnation of people by groups is justified because those groups had done things they don’t like. It is utterly circular, but that is typical of Marxism and neo-Marxist ideologies.

              • If they were honest with themselves the White Progressives would wear sackcloth and ashes for the remainder of their miserable lives….for many reasons.

      • How broken does a person’s grasp of reality have to be to pretend that any but the far-left is in control of publishing *today*?

        I kept bashing my head into this until I realized something very simple.

        Every leftist knows zhe is the one who can do socialism right. Thus, unless they are in charge the left isn’t in charge. Oh, they might pretend to be left, but in their hearts the people in charge are wreckers, hoarders, and bourgeois infiltrators.

        Because leftists know if they were in charge they would have brought us utopia thus the “leftists” in charge, having not brought utopia, are not really leftists.

        Thus leftist aren’t in charge.

      • tut-tut about how conservatives aren’t excluded, it’s simply impossible for them to be creative“.

        RES’s Simple Test To Determine If You Are Racist/Sexist:
        Take any statement such as this and substitute [ethnic group] in place of conservatives.

        Blacks aren’t excluded, it’s simply impossible for them to be creative.

        Women aren’t excluded, it’s simply impossible for them to be creative.

        Mexicans aren’t excluded, it’s simply impossible for them to be creative.

        Homosexuals aren’t excluded, it’s simply impossible for them to be creative.

        If the resultant sentence doesn’t make you cower in shame, you just might be a bigot.

        • Oh, they solved this problem entirely. It’s impossible to be bigoted against any group that isn’t oppressed, so doing the “flip this statement” doesn’t tell you anything at all, because it doesn’t tell you who the target group of the initial statement was and nothing else is important.

          It’s not just History that has a direction.

          And if more than one oppressed group is involved, then it takes inter-sectionalism to sort out who can possibly be bigoted against who and who else is a Bad Person for not calmly accepting the expressed bigotry toward them.

          Sort of like Jewish ladies and the women’s march.

          • At least we it goes intersectional we have the popcorn viewing a good TERF/Tranny war creates.

          • No, you’re still a bigot. Digging yourself deeper into that shithole cannot justify/excuse it.

            • Well, there’s plain and obvious truth and then there’s self-image and excuses.

              I’ve come right up against it. Do you know how “racist” is basically a way of saying “shut up”? The “woke” ideology is SO separate from any personal responsibility that you can’t even point to someone’s attitudes or actions. It rolls off. You know “if you deny it, it proves it’s true” goes? Today’s bigots don’t deny it… they know they’re racist because they’re white… but they’re super special virtuous for having their public confession dramas. So if you tell them they’re bigots, if you point to their *attitudes* or their *actions*, well, they KNOW that they’re super special virtuous so anything you say is merely an argument tactic… same as when they say “shut up” by calling you racist, you pointing out their condescending or patronizing attitudes is just a tactic. They KNOW that racism or even bigotry isn’t something that you DO. It’s who you are. Everyone is off the hook. Everyone. White Savior bigots are off the hook. POC racists can’t possibly be racist because no matter how much they hate people because of race, they’re special super virtuous… the intersectionalist white saviors told them so.

              It’s punching up.

              So long as you get the direction right you can be as hateful and bigoted as you please, if it pleases you. Those who view themselves as ON the very top, superior people even, well, they do the self-punching thing in order to prove that they are, in fact, at the freaking pinnacle of humanity.

    • They must be conservative or they wouldn’t be taking up the slots.

  2. Ah, I remember this from original publication. It remains a valid critique of a cheesy idea.

  3. BTW: there seems a certain relevance in this sub-head to Dennis Prager’s column this week:

    Why Is There a War on Cheerleaders?
    Leftists believe they are morally superior people and therefore have the right to deprive anyone — man or woman — from choosing what the Left disdains.

    • I will take issue with one word: believe.

      I believe Christ is the living and risen son of God and use that to guide, however unsuccessfully, my life. When asked for advice on the lives of others it informs that as well. It does not lead me to try to force others to live by the words of Christ much less my particular interpretation of them.

      Leftists try to make me leave by their exact choices because they know they are morally superior people. If they were powered by mere belief they’d be more humble.

      • Knowledge, unsupported by any evidence or fact, is belief, no matter how strenuously the believers claim otherwise.

        Insisting otherwise without being able to make a valid supporting argument is a flaming brand of belief. If you know a thing you don’t feel compelled to defend its truth.

        • On this, I’ve got to disagree.

          While knowing gets used to mean scientific knowledge a lot, there’s also the use that means “to be absolutely sure.” No modifier for why.

          Embarrassingly enough for someone who so admires Spock, I’ve got this for some subjects. (Talk about an embarrassment of blessings– otherwise I’d have talked myself into a corner where I couldn’t do otherwise, just as irrationally.)

      • Good point about “know”.

        It’s definitely a personality issue, though, that ability to be so sure and to lack any instinct to question.

  4. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

    I remember reading about some futurist’s idea about a “perfect” society (based in an orbital station).

    The review’s comments about it were “interesting” as the major punishment was “exile” (not in the sense of throwing you out of the airlock) and the reviewer’s comments were basically “that’s a punishment”.

    IE No sane person would want to stay in that “perfect” society. 😈

    So the threat of making us “persona non grata” really only works if we don’t have any place else to live because “we don’t want to be part of their society”. 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈

    • ….which is why I don’t think the Federation is a real dystopia.

      90% of the time they just ignore everybody, and a few folks that are totally beyond the pale are basically exiled from Federation support.

  5. BobtheRegisterredFool

    The salient feature of the Left, is that they practice a religion without capacity for peace. Even the closest friend of the Left becomes a bitter enemy as soon as they age enough to lose the mental flexibility to keep up with the fads and fashions of dogma. Or opinions once acceptable to the left are no longer acceptable.

    In a society with sufficient Leftists, we may not be called to be warriors, but we will be called to war. War that we cannot negotiate a peace to.

    Where do we find the resolve to stay engaged in battle? Sarah has one one of the hope answers, which looks like ‘happy’ to someone who has fatalism born of despair.

    What is the achievable goal? Sarah says anti-leftist victory. An extreme fatalist might say building the United States a samadh worthy of its station. A defeatist might say leftest victory.

    • And a religion without the possibility of redemption. Which is where a lot of the backlash they can’t figure out is coming from.

      If they hadn’t gone from “you’re white/male and need to work on your racism/sexism” to “you’re white/male and you can never not be racists/sexist and thus must be punished for it” they wouldn’t have near the push back they are finally getting…and even then that isn’t much yet (although the much is coming even faster than I expected and uglier than I’d hoped for).

      • Yes. Asking people to examine themselves and change their behavior or beliefs is one thing. When “racism” stopped being about what you *do* and started being about who you *are*… it was pretty much over. Because no one can stop being who they are.

        • And even if you could, it’s about who they’ve decided you are, not who you really are.

          Inside their heads it’s dark. And it smells bad.

    • What is the achievable goal?

      Wrong metric. Leftism, like rust, never sleeps. This is a battle to limit damage, not achieve victory, and therefore can have no respite. It is a matter of constant vigilance and training our young to always beware the gods of the copybook headings.

      I acknowledge a long-held appreciation of the Norse conceit that Ragnarok is unavoidable and that your goal is to go down fighting, with sword in hand and an honor guard of your slain to serve you in Valhalla.

      Times change, and swords are replaced by six-guns, six-guns by the Colt 1911 .45 ACP, and that by the fountain pen and now the keyboard.

      • I keep hoping for a shot at having a detonator in my hand when they get me, but I’ll have the Colt on hand JIC.

        • The Battle of Szigetvar, 1566. The last defenders died in a final battle… and left a slow fuse into the powder magazine that took out thousands of Ottomans. And they’d delayed the main Ottoman army so long that Suliman the Magnificent died of disease he got from the bad water. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/ancient-history/battle-saved-civilization-szigetvar-1566.html

          • That’s a good one…also a bit of unfinished business five centuries later.

            Arguably more unfinished now than it was then.

            • Except this time the would-be conquerors are being encouraged in their conquest and invited to the conquest.

              • Which, still makes no sense to me. What’s the endgame here? Why push for lessening of one’s own native population, while encouraging that of the invaders? How long would it be before the population differential is about the same?

                And then what will happen then?

                You can’t even argue that they’re being ‘invited in’ as cheap labor because they don’t work. In fact they’re nothing but leeches on the system and their host societies.

                • That gets…complicated.
                  A. AFAIK, no government actually wants their own people to stop having kids. Law of Unintended Consequences.
                  B. Most of the European governments are thinking in terms of the gastarbeiter who went over in the 1950s, and who actually wanted to work and adapt to the society they found themselves in. (One is reminded of the Turkish fellow who ran into trouble for flying a German flag outside either his home or business. Can’t remember which.)
                  C. Feels. Lots of feels.
                  D. There is a small contingent that wants to dissolve the people and elect another, but they’re not the ones in power.

                  • There is a small contingent that wants to dissolve the people and elect another, but they’re not the ones in power.

                    I respectfully disagree. I believe Merkel is one of those people. I also believe 5 years ago when the latest round started in earnest much of Europe was governed by such.

                    We have open admission by Labour members in the UK that Blair era immigration policy was specifically designed to prevent future conservative governments and, looking at May’s actions, I’d say they have succeeded.

                    • It’s sort of like adding salt to soup: you want enough to improve the flavor but not so much as to make it toxic.

                      Of course, when some clown has loosened the shaker lid …

                    • In my opinion Merkel views the EU as the mechanism for the creation of a Fourth Reich that has complete control over Europe and has complete power such that it dictates every aspect of people’s lives to make sure that they conform the EU/Reich’s ideology. The EU Army she and Macron support will be used to suppress internal dissent and to force recalcitrant countries to go along, and if not, they will invade Soviet style.

                    • I really don’t think there is any ‘Reich’ to it. I think her and the other monied European intellectuals just think that “A United Europe Under Our Guiding Hand Will Lead The Way To a Perfect Society!” (and yes, they even think in capitals- h/t John Ringo)

                • BobtheRegisterredFool

                  US Liberals and Islam 101
                  (I recently gave someone an orientation on this, so handy.)
                  1a. The US has actually been extremely successful with regard to security problems and neighbors. Which means that oral history oriented people basically aren’t aware of any possible problems, and because of the narrowness of official history, very likewise the official history oriented folks. ‘Oh we can’t possibly be in any danger’ is a very widespread view in the US, on both the left and the right. I have a form of it myself. (‘Kill all the foreign devils, even if there are six or seven billion of them’ is not a policy someone would advertise if they only had a Frenchman’s confidence in being able to cheaply exterminate the Germans. Note that devil means adversary, and is here understood to be people with desires for the US contrary to the Constitution.)
                  1b. There are American Blacks who understand the entire world through the lens of what they understand ‘Black history’* to be. Muslims are seen by some as a proxy for American blacks. These may also be the same people that think that slavery was a uniquely American institution, and has only ever been used by whites against blacks. This seems to be basically Valerie Jarrett’s damage. (Obama, being raised overseas, has internalized a different oral history from what ordinary Americans have. One of his other bits of damage appears to be a lack of confidence about going against Islam in any public way.)
                  2. Leftism is a heresy of Christianity, and its dislike of Christianity as a rival and enemy is much stronger, much more elemental, than any policy preferences of the moment, any ruses of war, that Islam also runs afoul of. Leftism and Islam may also have a lot in common.
                  3. The arrow of history dogma in Leftism is a very fundamental belief in that religion. They can not imagine any possibility of struggling against Islam and losing. It is very much for them what “But what if the Pope is Anti-Christ” is for Catholics. There is only so seriously they can consider the possibility, and it first and foremost feels motivated by an attack on the Faith, rather than being a conviction someone could honestly develop.

                  *This is something I am obligated to do. It is not a serious comment.

      • “Times change, and swords are replaced by six-guns, six-guns by the Colt 1911 .45 ACP, and that by the fountain pen and now the keyboard.”
        This reminds me of a Kelly Freas cover of ASTOUNDING (IIRC) of a man, standing before a wall of weapons (pistols, rifles, swords, daggers, spears, etc., who is picking a file folder off the wall. I’m pretty sure I still have that issue, in storage.

  6. Speaking of Darkship, is there a trick to leaving an Amazon review on the iOS app? (Something like: “Go buy this book! Your book taste buds will thank you! If you haven’t read the first two, go read them. There’re good; this one is better. IF they were only so-so, it would still be worth it.”)

  7. But what else can I do? The more we stay silent and let lies go around the world again and again and again, the greater the chance Western Civ dies.

    It has been another day where I just can’t with news anymore and I’m just listening to music, although the metal has alternated with a lot of replaying of Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen which is pushing some weird transhuman/body modification/body horror buttons, but I’m not sure what the story is yet so I’m just feeding it.

    Anyway, being in another day where I just can’t with the news, I have to ask, why should I care if Western Civ dies.

    The reasons you give here for saving it:

    And for all its faults, western civ, the notion of individual liberty, the power of only semi-fettered markets, have lifted more humans out of poverty than ever before. They have almost eliminated famines not caused by bloody stupid kleptocracies. They’ve proven the best for avoiding those dystopian outcomes: overpopulation, pollution, famine.

    Are demonstrated to be things people don’t care about in the long run. Oh, they care if they starve or their yard is glowing green or they have to get water from a river on fire.

    But if that is not happening to them they’d much rather be able to fantasize about putting high school kids in wood chippers and trying to get the parents of said high school kids fired than maintain western civ.

    Because they are enjoying the pleasures of burning down western civ.

    Hey, I get that. I’m a guy who used to collect all his dryer lint to have it ready to burn after bad days at work.

    But just as I long ago quit believing El Rushbo when he argued the natural yearning of the human spirit is to be free, because too many people too readily trade freedom for baubles, I can no long thing the real, deep, lasting benefits of Western Civ: low death rates due to disease, famine, bad water, etc, are thing people are willing to trade baubles like running kids they have never met to save.

    So, I say “F**K ’em”. Let them have the baubles they want and starve while I look after me and mine.

    I know which world I want my children and grandchildren to live in.

    I get that one, but the leftists with their overpopulation BS, reintroduction of effective polygamy, and feminism gave you a relatively large proportion of child free adults. In fact, a significant fraction of Europe’s leadership is child free.

    So that reason is not operative for a large section of society, including at its heights. It may be a section large enough to be fatal.

    • why should I care if Western Civ dies

      Me, I care just to spite those who want it ended.

    • Which goes back to what so many people don’t want to hear: the majority of the population has no particular desire for “freedom”, other than some limited autonomy in their personal lives. People have told them what to do for their whole lives; they’re not only happy with that, they can’t imagine life without it, other than some Mad Max style wasteland.

      • Not only that, but they can be easily whipped up into a mob to go after those who dare tell them that they are not free but rather serfs, and to go after the designated scapegoats once such a society inevitably goes bad, like countless times in the past.

      • Which goes back to what so many people don’t want to hear: the majority of the population has no particular desire for “freedom”, other than some limited autonomy in their personal lives.

        Rather, it goes back to what you mean by “freedom.”

        You’ve got to define your terms, first.

        • And those terms’ definitions, or at least connotationw, can vary. Iranian propaganda is full of diatribes against the American/Western notion of freedom–freedom to err, to insult, to lead other people into error.

          It’s easy for us to dismiss that, but we miss out on a lot of cultural context and understanding when we do.

    • The natural law in every human heart is subject to human free will and human choices. (And to being hidden by tricks and propaganda.)

      OTOH, art is one of the best ways to remind people of their deepest needs and feelings… And to truly free thought.

    • Are demonstrated to be things people don’t care about in the long run.

      What people?

      Not the people here.

      You mean the people the News decides to shove down your throat?

      …the same folks who are hell bent on dragging us to hell?

      Don’t believe them. They’re a-holes.

      And don’t believe what casual acquaintances say, either, because they’ve made it so that SAYING the wrong thing is a bad idea. Kind of like answering honestly when someone says “how goes?”

      Trust the people you can trust to be honest.

      • I was going by voting for restricted freedom as long as more baubles are provided. That is what I was evaluating the majority of humanity on.

        • My point is that what you see as restricting freedom, they might see as freeing themselves from something– for example, gun control,the folks who support it see as freeing themselves from the threat of guns. (Yes, I know it doesn’t work, but that’s irrelevant.)

  8. There is a reason I post under my online name. Living in the belly of the beast, it was the only sane choice.

    I know it is a flimsy cover, but you can’t google “me” and find anything “wrong”. One reason I never signed up for farce book.

    • Depends on what you post to farce book. Come on. I dare any liberal lefty to take exception to kittens & puppies …

      Or … wait, is that white privilege?

      I know. They want me to rescue the kids … no they don’t. See above. I don’t let kittens & puppies go. I’d never let a kid go …

    • Your ISP knows, because they have your IP address and billing information. And they sell that information. Google knows, because they co-locate servers with most ISPs, and they buy identifying information from the ones who don’t. Google sells that data too. (the other search engines just haven’t admitted it yet) And the Fed knows, because the NSA has oversight of all the NAPs your traffic goes through, and warrant-free access to data from your ISP and the search engines.

      The NSA shares data with… the FBI, which is apparently a paid-for arm of the Democratic Party now. And the FBI cheerfully “leaks” information when it’s advantageous to them or when instructed by their masters…

      No need to be paranoid *yet*… just be aware that there are limits to how secret an online handle is.

      • The default location service for my web presence seems to have me located in Texas. I’ve not made it a secret where I live, but I don’t share information with Google et al willingly.

        DuckDuckGo says they don’t share data. Here’s hoping they’re truthful.

        • In basically 25 years, my ISP location has yet to rise above “Um….well, I guess that’s basically close enough to the right county” level accuracy.

          For most of the time, it was “OK, that’s the right state, at least.” (I’m glad to not be getting ads for Portland locals when it was three times as far away as Canada, although I got those, too.)

        • Google is convinced I live a few-hundred miles away. I assume it’s an old Qwest hub and Centurylink ain’t bothering to update it, since I’ve been mislocated since before Centurylink bought Qwest. I figure Qwest got bought because they told the feds “go get a warrent” to unwarrented data requests back when.

          • Telephone service for our Century Telephone landline improved wonderfully after they bought Qwest. The Century people couldn’t be bothered to fix a line with a bad ground (hum from hell, no melody either), while the Qwest transplant service guy actually did a proper job and got a working line.

      • Because of how corporate network security doesn’t works no matter where in the company you are, you get a location at our national HQ unless someone has changed to it match their local area.

        If I don’t get the Research Triangle in NC I get the Bay Area and while Home Depot stocks interesting items there, that’s not really what I want in “check local stores”.

    • Likewise.

  9. I want to be liked and accepted by the group, at least superficially.

    No one wants to be the shaved monkey, I find, as I age, it is less a matter of being “liked and accepted” (as Groucho said, “I wouldn’t want to belong to any [group] that would [accept] me as a member.”) than it is a wish to not have to worry about being targeted by such groups.

    One thing I found from one of the few times I’d been “liked and accepted” in a group is that there would always be a few members who, while smiling and polite to your face, would make snide and belittling remarks and set you up to fail. Being within the group just gives backstabbers better opportunity to sidle up behind you.

    • “One thing I found from one of the few times I’d been “liked and accepted” in a group is that there would always be a few members who, while smiling and polite to your face, would make snide and belittling remarks and set you up to fail.”

      Yes. Not even sure what triggers it either. Resentment? Envy? Need to be superior?

      • Having watched a considerable amount of that in the workplace, I’ve come to the tentative conclusion that they have no real personal malice, they just do it because they’re assholes.

        I watched one IT middle manager pick someone at random, get them fired or pressured until they quit, then move on to someone else, likely as not someone who was one of the Anointed the day before. He did that half a dozen times before I left that place.

        • And I’ll bet the backbiting moron ended up with a section or division of drones too beaten down to fight back, and wondered why his metrics were so awful.

        • It’s purely about power. Just look at what O’Brien tells Winston Smith in 1984. A lot of people do this simply because they can.

          • Well, O’Brien told Smith that at least in part because Orwell could not give up the dream and admit the problem was not the socialists in Russia but socialism.

            • Interesting, I thought that was Orwell slipping for a moment and admitting the problem was socialism, that it would allow such people free reign. Something close to Reagan’s comment about the only two places communism could work.

        • It’s power. I’ve heard a number of stories about various managers (male and female) who would do that, sink the company or their group, bail, or get promoted or moved to somewhere else. And it’s “Never. Their. Fault.”

          The problem is finding them out. If you’re lucky you can find them out, put up some resistance (I’m talking about higher than the asshole subtly supporting the lower staff) until they explode. They cannot, will not abide any challenge to their power, even small ones.

      • I think the trigger answer is “yes”. We were participating in a (now defunct) community church when it became explicitly clear that we were valued only to the extent that we did stuff for them. “You have to come back; nothing is getting done.” $SPOUSE fielded that call; my answer would have been the audio equivalent of the middle finger salute.

        In our case, it was envy (we actually had enough money to buy a new car–bottom of the line Subie Forester) coupled with the superiority bit. The guy acting as minister pro-tem hated input from anybody. $SPOUSE caught hell for trying to set out food from the donation stash to actually give to people who needed it. Minister pro-tem wanted the detailed say-so and the glory. Arghh. I left a month later with the option; quit and de-stress, or blow up and de-stress in jail. I did the former. (Classic definition of stress certainly applied.)

        That church lasted a few years after we left. Not sure of the exact date, but the building was sold to another community church. Looks like they’re doing all right. No idea what happened to Minister pro-tem. Don’t care enough to ask.

        • Yeah, church congregations are human institutions. And most human institutions, led by real people, have a sell-by date after which they aren’t effective at performing their original mission.

          • The church had a checkered history. I don’t know details, but there were a fair number of people in town who refused to set foot in the place.

            In the 5 years we were there, the attendence went from 30ish people to 5-6. Didn’t help that the church was nominally Quaker (at the time, in a fairly conservative Yearly Meeting) in an area suspicious of liberal churches. (After the local church folded, the YM had a major schism due to a Portlandia congregation forcing same sex marriage. When the Yearly Meeting’s larger congregations were only 200 people, and < 50 is common, that kind of issue can be a killer.)

        • Yes. Being competent in something the “person who wants to be in charge” isn’t. Its like being stuck somewhere where fire is needed. So you build one, but get vilified for being a show off. All you did was build a freaking warming fire without fuss because you were cold.

          Or maybe its because you also were prepared for an emergency & also had water, shelter, food, first aid, … & “he/she who would be leader” didn’t?

      • Their inner jerk just has to saddle up and RIDE some people down.

        • And that reminds me of one of the shops I was in in the AF: Our section was headed by a major, but our senior captain ran the show. For some reason (???), he’d decide to pick on a guy, and keep picking until the victim
          blew up at him. He never did that to me, or I just didn’t notice him doing that to me, so I was no fun at all.

      • Guess I’ve been lucky, only ran into that (for sure) once– but man was it a doozie. On the upside, I had a solid “WTF is wrong with this gal?” vibe, on the down side, I was an 18 year old nub with all the savvy of a new-hatched goose.

        Most of the time, it’s just “there is something wrong here, not sure what” for like 90% of all social interaction.

        • “I was an 18 year old nub with all the savvy of a new-hatched goose.”

          Yes. Been there too. Naive doesn’t even come close to what I was at 18. It’s taken age to put a lot of stuff into perspective.

          I now realize how freaking lucky I was (incident happened when I was 19, nothing on the horror stories you read about, but could have been). Talk about being raised in a protected environment …

  10. If they’re marginalized, that means most publishing slots are for conservative white males, right?

    I think it means they’ve been coated in “an imitation butter spread used for flavoring, baking, and cooking.”

    It certainly does not mean they are denied access to Society’s privileges. It is just a label, like Historically Oppressed (I’m Jewish, there’s nobody been as historically oppressed as my folks, but we don’t get to capitalize it and use it as excuse to oppress people in our Modern Era.)

    Daughtorial Unit was lured to a magnet school for the GiT (Gifted & Talented) located within an inner city warren. She was never entirely able to reconcile that the majority of students in her school were labeled “minority.” Ironically, it was particularly difficult for a Gifted & Talented “minority” student to get into the magnet because that would have buggered the ratio of minority/majority in the building, which would have upset the Feds something terrible as they had our school system under their colonoscope microscope.

    • ” I think it means they’ve been coated in “an imitation butter spread used for flavoring, baking, and cooking.” ”

      Help! I’ve been margarinized and I can’t get up, because it’s too slippery!

    • (I’m Jewish, there’s nobody been as historically oppressed as my folks, but we don’t get to capitalize it and use it as excuse to oppress people in our Modern Era.

      FALSE evil horrible person, your TotalBad Jew types SHOOT BACK at oppressed brown people of genetically identical backgrounds while being so successful you only count as white! H8ters!
      Worse, your horribad folks target those actually attempting mass slaughter of any random person in Israel, instead of just carpet bombing, you monster-by-vague-ancestral-association!

      (quietly spits and gargles with Listerine Ten, contemplates gargling with fire)

      • [Shrug] We finally gave up on reliance upon the kindness of strangers. As Golda Meir supposedly said, “We Jews are not ready to commit suicide in order that the world think well of us.”

  11. You see, I’ve always had a contrary disposition, and will stick like a Spanish mule, and put my four hooves down as if set in cement, if you try to push me – personally – in any direction.

    But…

    And I’m human. I want to be liked and accepted by the group, at least superficially.

    *takes a carrot, ties it to a stick, hangs it in the desired direction, starts making nasty loud noises to the sides and slightly back but not actually behind her*

  12. I still don’t want to be persona non-grata. I only started talking about politics, because my (then) agent told me I had to blog every day. And it’s impossible to blog every day without writing about what matters to you, which – given that I have this wound from the cold war, and it only hurts when I laugh – sooner or later the anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-statism would come pouring out like vitriol. It just would.

    See, that’s why I don’t pretend to be, oh, an unmarried, childless gal who stayed in the Navy and was raised in the city but doesn’t know her extended family, which is German.

    The stuff I love will leak through.

  13. “I know it loses me readership. Several people on the left were fans of Darkships before they found out my real politics.”

    Sarah, don’t sell yourself short. It also gains you some readership. Maybe not as much, but some. And once gained, I think they tend to stick with you.

    • The leftoids refuse to read anything by anyone they consider right of lenin, yet if everyone like those they disdain stopped reading anyone to the left of Milady Sarah, they’d all be broke and out of work.

      • That is already happening, although less about politics and more about wanting actual, you know, story in their story.

        • true, but the leftoids who can do a decent enough story and back off on the pc/leftoid crap do well enough because those who don’t agree with them that Trotsky was a great guy and Che was just dreamy, are still buying their stories. You could be a Black Lesbian in a wheelchair and write the best plotted, pageturning, leave ’em screaming for more, but if they find you voted for Trump, you’ll not sell a thing to them, and be tossed from the tradpub houses for your heresy.

    • Christopher M Chupik

      I’m guessing those might include the person who thought that the Good Men represented the Catholic Church . . .

      • BobtheRegisterredFool

        You mean they don’t? I thought the Portuguese were Lutherans.

        Next you’ll tell me that Steven from Chancy’s Seeds of Blood isn’t a transparent insert of Steve Jobs. Or that Boykin’s Rigi isn’t a modern feminist. Or that Curtis’ John Cronin doesn’t have an extreme libertarian opposition to laws restricting drugs. Or that Kratman’s Lourdes does not symbolize the second sun from Aztec mythology.

      • I thought from the title that maybe it was a take on the rebirth of the U.S. Marines. But surprise! Different story, and still worth reading.

  14. > loses sales

    Elizabeth Warren’s new platform is “tax the rich!”

    According to Newsweek’s web site:

    “According to the 2017 tax statements, Warren and her husband, Bruce Mann, reported an adjusted gross income of $913,000. Together, they paid $302,000 in taxes that year and are eligible for nearly $34,000 in refunds.

    That same year, Warren reportedly attributed $174,000 of her earnings to her U.S. senator salary, and $430,370 to the income she earned from writing books. The couple also donated $82,000 to charity.”

    $430,370. “Royalties. The new payola!”

  15. Even high school debates are now subject to imposition of identity based Marxism as apparently white males are forbidden from making arguments that challenge leftist narratives and stating that people should be judged not as members of groups but individuals is enough to have a debate Judge disqualify the students as racists.

    Via Powerline:
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/the-left-strikes-where-it-hurts-debate.php

  16. Julie near Chicago

    Miss Hoyt,

    Thank you so much for this posting. Please keep on doing what you’re doing, and rest assured that many of us like you, and respect you, and not only accept you but welcome you.

    You’re a warrior in a very good cause, and as I’m sure you know, you’re excerpted and cross-posted with some frequency. Personally, I’m here from postings and comments at thenewneocon.com

    :>))

    Julie

  17. (Donna and Stephen are liberals but are good people and I enjoy their music)

  18. I don’t think I could stand being a person without cheese.

    (That is what “persona non grata” means, right?)

    😉

  19. Hi Sara, you’re only persona non grata to the very vocal left. There is a huge, quiet conservative group in the US, biding our time and keeping our families safe, until they push us too far.