New Deal, Same as the Old Deal by Thomas Kendall

New Deal, Same as the Old Deal by Thomas Kendall

I read Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez’s “Green New Deal“. It was a heck of an experience. I daresay I’ve characterized a brand new psychological phenomenon on the basis of same. Here, quick. Look at the image below.


Figure 1: A tale of two stupids.

Okay, now I know this will come as a huge shock, but believe it or not, both of the two words pictured above are the word “stupid”. I appreciate that one is green. Being green does not magically remove the fact that it is, in fact, the word “stupid”. It’s almost like associating something with the concept “green”, in general, in no way alters the fundamental nature of the thing in question. Are we good on this concept?

I have to conclude that this is all but a magical optical illusion to ¡Ocasio’s! supporters because wow, does their golden girl ever seem to enjoy sloshing ¡verde! over her 2-second thought seizures and calling it a policy proposal (BTW, did anyone else notice she cribbed Jeb! Bush’s schtick? Because she definitely did. I mean she took it South of the border—or maybe she just liked the kismet of starting even her logo with something that’s been arranged top-down— but it’s still the same damned thing.). This is so dumb, I’ve invented the Ocasio-Cortez drinking game. Every time she proposes something that would utterly destroy some fundamental part of the US—the economy, civil liberties, the well-being of the citizenry, whatever—take a shot. You’ll find it makes it easier to read her other policy proposals, since she, like  ¡Bernie!, is something of a one-note person and she sings in the key of Bolshevik. Just don’t get too hammered to vote against her and anything like her, that’s all I ask.

Where to begin?

In the link above, parts 1-5 are mostly just the stuff to establish a committee to pursue this tragicomedy. I’d just call out from that portion that, A) just remember she wants all this crap in 10 years, and B) that’s starting from March 2020. If the timing seems suspicious, the Washington Free Beacon agrees. “It is entirely possible that Ocasio-Cortez knows her proposal is both light on details and pie-in-the-sky; recent reporting indicates that the real goal of the committee would be to produce a campaign document for Democrats, rather than an actual policy proposal.” Remember that. It’s totally possible they’re going to want to hang their campaign against Trump on this. This is the strong card in their deck, they think.

Part 6 is where the meat is. And I am going to quote some highlights of this. Right away, ¡Ocasio! isn’t screwing around. 6-A lists the policy objectives.

“i-Dramatically expand existing renewable power sources and deploy new production capacity with the goal of meeting 100% of national power demand through renewable sources”

Ha ha! How reasonable! Take a shot.

First, as the Washington Free Beacon points out above, this isn’t even remotely feasible. No, not even with a lot of ¡dineros!, because money (please sit down as I reveal this shocking message) does not magically turn the impossible into the possible. That’s why Trump hasn’t been giving addresses from the back of a golden dragon for the last two years, metal though that would be. And why no Uncle Sam of Oz can possibly give ¡Ocasio! the brain she so desperately needs, but I digress. Second, as The American Thinker points out, first, this would destroy millions of jobs. We’re not even talking oil and gas jobs. We’re talking “jobs that require electricity”, so unless we’re planning to power to global victory on the back of the Amish population, we’ve got a problem. Second, since our global competitors would not be following us down this particular path to perdition, we’d pretty much instantly fall so far behind economically if we tried to do this it wouldn’t even be funny. That’s assuming we even make it to the end of this green-tinted acid trip. My guess is we’d get invaded by one or more of our opponents while we were busy giving them a hand-engraved opportunity by shooting ourselves in the foot. But hey, maybe that’s the point. How long has the bug-eyed Bolshy been colluding with ¡Russia!? That’s what we really need to know right now. Oh, and by the way, in case you missed this part of it: last I checked, “renewable” sources means exclusively things there’s basically an infinite supply of. So this doesn’t just nix coal, gas, and oil. It nixes nuclear too. In case you felt it wasn’t impossible enough.

“ii. building a national, energy-efficient, “smart” grid;”

Take a shot. This would be stupidly expensive, of course, but hey, clearly we’re in the land of play money. And as the Washington free beacon points out above, it’s also incompatible with (i), since 100% renewable energy sources wouldn’t make any production peaks to level the supply troughs anywhere else. But more to the point, the problem with a national system that dynamically reroutes power to where it’s most needed is that it’s A) almost certainly run by a computer, and B) since it functions at the interstate level by definition, it’s in the jurisdiction of the federal government. So beyond the fact that we can’t afford it, and it wouldn’t work, there’s this nice cherry on top—it would likely give the feds the ability to shut down power to any area of the country they felt was, ahem, uncooperative. Whee!

“iii. upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety”

¡Aye caramba! Just so we understand how retarded that is, I had to look this up for scale. In 2017 the United States had about 136 million housing units. The mean square footage of a house in 2017 was about 2500 square feet (rounding down). I’ll tell you why I’m telling you that in a moment. In 2012 there were a mere 5.6 million commercial buildings. Since the same site goes on to note that these had 87 billion square feet of floor space, my Windows calculator shows that the average floor space of a commercial building is about 15,500 square feet. So, in those terms, since we know the square footage of a house, we can infer that a commercial building is a little over 6 times larger. Which means that, yes, to make our math easier, we’re just gonna assume that museums, warehouses, and factories, have the same ceiling height as your house. If some helpful in the comments wants to explain how much I underestimated by, fine. Speaking of fudge, being totally fair, about 5% of that 5.6 million was noted to be in lodging, which would overlap the housing units. But also being fair, in 2012 the report showed a “14% increase in the number of buildings and a 21% increase in floorspace since 2003”. Given that we gave Obama the boot two years ago— to the relief of the average businessman, I would bet— we’ve probably kept on growing. So we’ll take the number as is. I’ll update if someone can give solid evidence we’ve grown less than that in 6 years.

So—how much do you think upgrading every residential and industrial building would cost? Just from an order of magnitude perspective, I’m thinking $1,000 is probably a bit conservative. $100,000 might be too high—might, though it depends on how you define “state of the art” energy efficiency. Heck, it depends on how you define “state of the art” comfort. Maybe she wants to make every house in the projects look like a penthouse in Dubai. Who the Hell knows? Trying to make sense out of her “plans” is like discussing philosophy with a schizophrenic. I’m just doing my best, here. And therefore I’m assuming she’s taken the more “realistic” path, and defined “comfort” the way socialists usually do—tiresome discomfort compensated by the smug knowledge that you, personally, are saving the planet. So let’s say that this costs about 10,000 bucks for an average home. That estimate— which, frankly, for a full remodel of an average 2,500 square foot home to state-of-the-art anything is still probably small— would put the cost of this project at 1.36 trillion dollars. Oh, plus another 336 billion dollars if we assume renovating commercial buildings costs only about 6 times as much, per building, as private homes. Or, for convenient reference, a bit more than the 1.688 trillion the government is expected to make in personal income taxes. Again, by fairly conservative estimates. This could be way higher.

That’s ignoring that this is going to essentially force on you the lifestyle those “green” friends of yours always have. You know. The glamorous world of appliances that don’t work. And heating and air conditioning that neither effectively heat, nor condition the air, so that they’re constantly adding and removing layers like mutant onions. And rooftop solar panels that can charge a whole D-Cell battery on a sunny day and cost as much as a family car to replace if you get a hailstorm. Not that you’ll pay for that, you loyal party member, you. Well, not directly. We’ll take the money, take it for an office tour amongst the bureaucrats who will nab a bunch of it, then give it back to you in a smaller quantity, and require you to purchase a specific thing with it. ¡Arriba!

All that—and that’s one bullet point. Jesus.

Take a shot.

“iv. eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries, including by investing in local-scale agriculture in communities across the country;

  1. eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from, repairing and improving transportation and other infrastructure, and upgrading water infrastructure to ensure universal access to clean water;”

Oh, my dear and fluffy lord.

Okay, um. Take—I dunno, 5 or 6 shots. She didn’t even say “balancing”, remember. This isn’t even about net carbon. She said “eliminating”. That means factories largely get the nix, but we knew that anyway because we haven’t had the power for them since (i). Interpreted literally, this also essentially means no livestock. Certainly no cows, those being a big source of greenhouse emissions, but probably no animals at all since pretty much all carbon-based things with digestive tracts emit greenhouse gases. And her “solution”—is the most Millennial thing I have ever read in my life, and I appreciate the irony of my saying that (I know, I know. A Millennial appreciate irony? It’ll never ‘appen!). “Local-scale agriculture” is a phrase used by someone who drinks hydroponically farmed wheatgrass in her smoothie in the morning and wonders why the world can’t share her ecstasy. So, at best, she wants to break up giant agriculture conglomerates, which means the efficiency of these mass farming operations, and the R and D they invest in improving crop yield, go out the window. Which actually might lead to starvation if we really did that, but damn it, it’s organic, locally grown starvation. At worst—and it fits the wording just as well—she wants us to roll over to subsistence farming. Which we’ll do by ourselves, actually, if she gets a crack at running the economy, methinks. But I doubt that the people in Chicago and Brooklyn will find that lifestyle change as convenient. Self correcting problem?

Oh, but shit, son. I forgot all about bullet point 2, electric boogaloo. Now, it’s difficult to tell from the wording whether she means to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions from transportation infrastructure, plus other infrastructure, or whether she means to include transportation in general in the infrastructure from which we will eliminate greenhouse gases. Socialists have a funny idea about ownership—see: defining tax cuts as “tax expenditures”— and that makes it tricky when we talk about transportation, since most transportation is privately owned. The things that come to mind immediately when I think “transportation infrastructure”—highways, airports—don’t really release a lot of greenhouse gasses. You might have noticed how concrete is very green in that respect. She may also mean Tesla buses, and all-electric trains. Since pretty much all the places where that’s economically feasible are already using that technology, you can guess the implications. “♪ socialist choo-choo, won’t you choo choo me—nowhere at all because of union strikes, leading ultimately to me to having to walk—home! ♫”. I’ll work on making it scan. If it actually becomes law I’ll have lots of time while I’m waiting. But then again—in the same document that wants us to meet “100% of the national power demand through renewable sources”— I cannot bring myself to rule out that this falls in the same area as turning the housing projects into mini-millionaire’s row. So this could also mean electric cars for everybody. Oh. And basically no airplanes. The battery-pack-weight-to-power-produced ratio is ¡muy grande!. Dagny Taggart, call your office.

“vi. funding massive investment in the drawdown of greenhouse gases”

I’m just going to say this. None of the multi-trillion dollar bullet points up until now warranted the disclaimer that they would take massive investment.

Just let that sink in.

Invest in a massive shot.

“Vii. making “green” technology, industry, expertise, products and services a major export of the United States, with the aim of becoming the undisputed international leader in helping other countries transition to completely greenhouse gas neutral economies and bringing about a global Green New Deal.”

Apart from being roughly as coherent a plan as this, it’s hard to even guess the expense or impact of this because neither I, nor anybody else, has any idea what it looks like. I can say that if Solyndra taught us anything, it’s that putting tons of taxpayer money into green companies that couldn’t get private investment because they weren’t economically feasible otherwise is really great. Just the best. But that’s just because my personal fetish is messy corporate bankruptcy. I have a bespoke bootleg blueray of “Big Beautiful Bankrupt Boondoggle Booties” in my sock drawer. I also enjoy alliteration.

Look, the issue here is that government doesn’t make things. It directs, it controls, and it makes stuff that facilitates things being made. In the second category, the public usually invents it, and the government facilitates making it on a grand scale if—like roads or electricity—we can generally agree that pretty much everyone needs and wants it (that’s assuming certain basic preconditions, like that the project doesn’t involve nationalizing the livelihood of hundreds of thousands of private workers, reducing them to effective slavery, but oh, we’ll get to that). Almost by definition, massive “investments” into things that aren’t profitable right now means using money inefficiently (which is why I use quote marks—it’s just hard for me to call something we basically know will lose money an investment. It’s like how using a flamethrower on my lawn is hard to define as watering.). Ask Trabant owners what it’s like when the government decides it’s going to invent things instead of wait for the market to figure out what’s efficient and economically feasible. You get a 2-stroke car with 26 horsepower, cotton body panels, and a 10 year waiting list because they can’t even produce it reliably. Or, at the more successful end of the scale, you get the Apollo program. Which may look photogenic, but as public transport goes, the average Joe may as well plan to swim to the moon—and that may explain why the moon has so few job offers.

Also, not to rain on her parade, but isn’t “bringing about a global Green New Deal” cultural imperialism? What if other countries don’t want to be green? No, better yet, look at the Paris Accord. China and India don’t want to be green. Sounds like she needs to check her privilege.

“B. The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation.”

We’ve gotten as far as section 6 B! B stands for bullshit, as you’ll soon see. “Historic” is certainly a good choice of words. A country actually trying this would be history. Also, try this fun experiment at home—substitute “Great Leap Forward” for “Green New Deal”, and “China” for “the United States”. Spooky, no? So, which eggs will be going into the societal omelet at ¡Ocasio’s! Marxist Diner?

“i. provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one

  1. diversify local and regional economies, with a particular focus on communities where the fossil fuel industry holds significant control over the labor market, to ensure workers have the necessary tools, opportunities, and economic assistance to succeed during the energy transition; “

Ooh. The 370 million egg omelet comes with jobs. Jobs ¡con carne!. “Diversify” is Spanish for “destroy”, I assume. So sorry, but you’re not “diversifying” a market you committed to removing in its entirety in your first bullet point in section A. Take a diverse shot. Also, we’re using monopoly money again. In 2015 about 1,390,000 people were working in oil and gas. All of them would be unemployed now. She’s up front about that. Add that to the roughly 6 million unemployed people now. At a 15 dollar minimum wage, assuming 8 hour workdays, 5 days a week, 50 weeks of the year (2 weeks of vacation), that’s 30 K per job. So at minimum, call that, oh, a mere 221 billion dollars of expenses per year. This is assuming that the fact that we no longer have sufficient electricity for anything, and are living under a government that has precipitously increased its power to that of the USSR in its heyday, does not increase unemployment relative to the best-performing US economy in decades, which is what we currently have under Trump. Of course, if you don’t want a living wage, I guess you don’t have to be a full and equal participant in the transition. Not that that sounds like a veiled threat of any kind. Nosiree.

We’re going to have to skip ahead a bit, because at this point things become dense and almost content-free at the same time. Let me give you some Cliff’s notes on the next few.

B-iii—Muh Unions

B-iv— “low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities” need some sweet greenifying before the big bad oil pisses off the sea goddess and she eats whole coastlines in her rage.

B-v—Muh Indians

B-vi— Oh, crap, okay, this one I can’t just gloss.

“vi. mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities in such a way that builds wealth and ownership at the community level);”

Huh. So, she wants to “mitigate” “inequalities in income and wealth”, by “equitably” distributing federal and “other investment” (I’m gonna say, if the investment doesn’t get to distribute itself, it’s all federal investment), to the “historically impoverished”. Given that by this point in the document the federal government is the pre-eminent master and funder of basically everything, I think that’s just communism at this point. No, seriously. If the government has all-but-intentionally destroyed the whole support structure of its current economy down to the roots, and is replacing said collapsed economy with massive dump-trucks of money from one big central garage, which it is using to “mitigate” “inequalities”— really that’s just her using a thesaurus to sell us on redistributing the wealth. She either steals the money from rich people or she runs it up on the credit card, devalues the currency into worthlessness, and steals it from everybody. Although in that case, poor people are more likely to starve. Partially because it’s harder for them to run away.

Take a shot. From your neighbor’s liquor cabinet.

“vii. include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism”

¡Muy caliente! I’m sorry, apparently the legislation wasn’t bloated enough. You know what I love about basic income programs? How green they are. They’re environmentally friendly! Certainly not a flimsy excuse for cramming maximum quantities of socialism down our throats. Reason being, if, as many Soviet citizens found, you disagree with them too loudly, the government composts you. Or enslaves you. Hi, doctors! I’m sorry, did you feel you had a right to practice your skills for a fair amount of money? Oh, you poor dears. Uncle Sam owns you now. You will treat any and all for as long as we tell you! Greenly! And ah, what is a little government pork without a blank check to the pig farm thrown in for good measure? Because in ten seconds, she couldn’t think of every pony she wants daddy to buy her, but damn it, she knows she’s going to want a diversified set of indigenous gender-equitable free-range LGBTQRSUVOMGWTFBBQ ponies at some unspecified date. Given that the nation was founded explicitly on hard limits on government power, apart from anything else, this effectively writes the 9th and 10th amendment out of existence. Making it—let me look up the technical legal terms, here— “illegal as balls”. Take two shots, and any others as you may deem appropriate to promote not choking socialists.

“viii—deeply involve national and local labor unions to take a leadership role in the process of job training and worker deployment.”

Unionize ¡todo!. Take a shot, but only if your union boss approved it.

And finally—because by now there might be a single vertebrae somewhere at the base of your spine that hasn’t had a chill through it, may I present section C, which I assume was Ocasio-Cortez’s grade in macroeconomics (I kid, of course. Her teacher was probably a communist. Most of them are, these days. She got an A, which was immediately divided up and redistributed to someone who was failing. Unless they were Republican, of course, because otherwise it wouldn’t be equitable.).

“The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that innovative public and other financing structures are a crucial component in achieving and furthering the goals and guidelines relating to social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice and equality and cooperative and public ownership set forth in paragraphs (2)(A)(i) and (6)(B).”

“Innovative”. “Innovative” financing structures. She literally wrote this. This isn’t me pulling your leg. So at this point I’m sure you want to know, what kind of innovation? Because when I think of innovative financing, for some reason the image of burly Italian men in pinstriped suits and sunglasses begins forming in my mind. Well, I’m glad you asked. Here’s your outline:

“The Plan (and the draft legislation) shall, accordingly, ensure that the majority of financing of the Plan shall be accomplished by the federal government, using a combination of”—

A- “the Federal Reserve” – because the Fed hasn’t caused enough problems already.

B-“A new public bank or system of regional and specialized public banks” – Well, that certainly is innovative. Who needs one giant institution causing economic roller coasters when you can put it through mitosis? Double, double, money bubble. Because realistically, the Fed might not print money quickly or conveniently enough for ¡Ocasio!-Cortez’s tastes.

C-“Public venture funds” – which we wish to emphasize will be totally voluntary and in no way coerced from people at gunpoint.

D-“Such other vehicles or structures that the select committee deems appropriate”— love me some blank checks. What other vehicles or structures? Doth the “T” word wait in the wings? Ah, damn, I forgot. If Obamacare taught us anything, it’s that there are no taxes unless it’s convenient. Or I should say, perhaps you’ll have to pay your green “penalty” for being insufficiently environmentally friendly.

Whew. ¡Aye aye aye! Well, that was fun!

Now, I want you to remember what I said at the start. On the basis of the timing, there’s even odds they plan to use this as a campaign document in 2020. Just look back over that, and really take that in. There are even odds that this is the future of the Democratic party. You like what you see? This is why we need to pay more attention to ¡Ocasio!. You’re wrong if you think of her as a lone nut. She’s not. She’s version 2.0 of what I personally think the Democrats barely knew they had market for until Bernie almost de-throned the queen at her own coronation. If you think the fact that she is laughably extremist is a check against her getting shunted into the fast lane, you’re dead wrong. The Democrats took exactly the wrong lessons from 2016, and worse, they’re applying them. They want extremists. We may not all be socialists now, but the Democrats? Don’t be so sure.

And she’s just their type. She’s certifiably ethnic, and female, and young. Basically, if she starts identifying as a man, she’ll be  their wet-dream. She’s also stupider than a hammer full of nitroglycerine, which party elders may flatter themselves makes her easier to direct, though I think she may even be too dumb to take direction. She’s already butting heads with Pelosi. Our best-case scenario is that Pelosi, out of self-interest, takes her down a peg or ninety. But don’t bet that it will be so simple. Some feel, like PJ O’Rourke, that “Age and Guile Beat Youth, Ignorance, and a Bad Haircut”. I usually agree, but I don’t have that kind of faith on this. I think people miss that true believers like her are exactly what the Left grooms Millennials to be. They’ve asked for this in spades. What went around is coming around.

And being more serious for a moment, that’s the bad news I’m really here to deliver. I’m sorry, but ¡Ocasio! isn’t an anomaly. It’s true what people say—if only Millenials voted, Hillary still wouldn’t be president, but Bernie Sanders would be. ¡Ocasio! is the leading wave of a group of people who have been pissing me off all my life because I’ve had to go to school with them. And the only thing that’s different about her versus them is that she’s more famous. They’re true believers. They’ve never heard anything different, and now, thanks to social media and extremely stilted mainstream media, they’re still not hearing anything more meaningful than #OrangeManBad. They’re either shielded from the economy by their parents or in at the bottom, so economic improvements mean little to them. And Pelosi can politic all she likes, but she’d best make the most of it. Unless she takes the Clinton-esque step of actually killing the idiot, ¡Ocasio! is only going to become a bigger problem, because she’s the vanguard. I would guess that the reinforcements will start arriving probably by the end of Trump’s second term, assuming we can stop the cheating enough to get one. And if we don’t have a good head start on picking ¡Ocasio! apart by then, she’s going to be the elder statesman of the (H/T to a friend) “kindercaucus”, and being used as a punching bag by her party’s seniors will be a badge of honor. And dumb as she is, trust me, she knows it. Hell, she’s almost counting on it, I think.

So pay attention. And take some friendly advice— stop her before she grows.

348 thoughts on “New Deal, Same as the Old Deal by Thomas Kendall

  1. What a pile of shit.

    I hope you were paid very well to go though that. 😦

      1. Would you have a place for a rant on why of course we need to kill all refugees and aliens in order to prevent global warming?

          1. Under my new, a scientist said so it must be true, model of AGW, the population densieties in Europe, India, and Asia are problematic. If they aren’t addressed, the earth will heat up so much that the sun will explode. 🙂

  2. But here’s the ugly reality. They elected this woman, and she and her peers (Yes she has peers in Congress) have the authority to make this crap the LAW.
    To which end they will bend every force of the Federal government to make you live with it. And they have lots of guns to jam up your nose to enforce it.
    It simply doesn’t matter to them that it can’t work. They aren’t reality based. If it doesn’t work and destroys your living and the economy – well, obviously you little people didn’t implement it correctly.
    Take away is this – Be prepared to live in a failed state like Venezuela.

    1. And now that they have a majority in the House, we are unlikely to see one single piece of legislation proposed by the GOP ever make it through; and also likely to see nothing but crap proposals for the increase of totalitarianism, the death of capitalism, and the death of the Constitution from the Democrat-Socialists of the House.

      1. we are unlikely to see one single piece of legislation proposed by the GOP ever make it through

        Not precisely true. Any obviously good law proposed by the GOP would have the serial numbers filed off, a DEMOCRAT label slapped on and passed. Any obviously bad law proposed by the GOP would sail through as a bipartisan bill.

        If the GOP were to propose a bill grabbing all guns the legislature would pass it through, giving full credit to the GOP.

        1. Exactly. It’s only unconstitutional if the courts say it is (and I am extremely grateful that Trump and McConnel are filling the judge slots as quickly as possible), and if anyone “with standing” pays attention.

          1. Constituional? Feh, that document is almost two and a half centuries old. As Matt Yglesias reminds, they can go ahead and just do it! and let the SCOTUS suck on it.

            Constitutional limits only apply to Republican administrations; Democrat administrations have both pens and phones!

      1. Yes, it is unconstitutional. And tyrants are well-known for respecting “scraps of paper”.

    2. they have lots of guns to jam up your nose to enforce it.

      And remember, as Rep. Swalwell pointed out, <I<they have nukes!

      (Well, at least until the existing stock expires because ain’t none of these clowns has tech skills to build or maintain any device more complicated than a smart phone.)

      1. The funny part is all Team Red has to do is hack down the EBT system. Food riots would leave every Blue City-State in flames in a matter of weeks.

        Thanos smiles.

    3. The “rule of law” has become shaky and crumbling at the edges. Too many bureaucrats ignoring the law and doing as they please, while trying to use the same law against their opponents and the population as a whole.

      They’ve just about sawn through the limb that’s supporting them. Because that “antiquated document” is the only thing that stops me from doing as I damned well please. And they really, really wouldn’t like that.

  3. You used math when you were figuring those things. Math is an oppressive tool of the patriarchy.

    You use facts, too. Facts are oppressive tools of the patriarchy.

    Report to your friendly neighborhood educational center for your mandatory classes in patriarchal oppression.

  4. The obdurate idiocy of the Green obsession with fluctuating power sources is simply stunning. In fact, a sound working definition of ‘Alternative Energy’ is ‘any method of power generation that is in no danger of becoming practical’.

    1. “In fact, a sound working definition of ‘Alternative Energy’ is ‘any method of power generation that is in no danger of becoming practical’.”

      Indeed….this is why hydropower (which is really solar power with integrated storage) is not generally considered Alternative Energy. It actually works.

      1. Even more damming; I remember when hydroelectric WAS widely talked of as ‘alternative’ and/or ‘renewable’. Then Jimmy Carter proposed to actually BUILD a bunch of it…and suddenly the SAME PEOPLE were protesting the very idea.


      2. Hydro requires a consistent flow and a fairly large gravity gradient, which is why most places with those conditions already have a hydroelectric dam there. And even those are subject to reduced production during dry periods.
        Now a clever storage trick that some power companies have used is to find a small mountain, build a lake at the top, during off peak hours pump water into the lake, then during peak usage run the water back through the pump/generators to supply extra power. TVA has Raccoon Mountain Pump Storage Facility outside Chattanooga for this exact purpose. It supposedly supplies the equivalent replacement power of one nuclear reactor. Last I heard attempts to do this in several other locations has been fought to a standstill by environmental groups.

        1. This is actually a reasonable use for windmills.

          When the wind is a-blowin use the windmills to pump the water uphill. Then when it’s not drain it down.

          1. Friction losses are huge. Not a problem on a relatively small scale, but on a national grid scale, math is not their friend.

            1. Math is never their friend.

              And yeah, there’s loss, but it’s one way of “storing wind”.

              1. The proof that they are using all of this a pretext to impose totalitarian socialism and don’t care about CO2 emissions is their adamant opposition to CO2 free nuclear energy which is the ONLY current source of significant energy generation that can actually meet our power needs without emitting the CO2 the left says we must get rid of.

        2. There are “run of the river” hydro plants that don’t need the large gravity gradient. I won’t pretend to know what makes them viable, but there’s one on the Mehldahl Dam on the Ohio at Willow Grove, KY — the drop there is 15′-20′.

          1. The efficiency of a turbine is related to the difference in pressure across the turbine. 15-20 feet of static head is going to result in a pretty inefficient turbine (most steam plants are looking at the equivalent of a few hundred feet of static head) but since the input energy is “free” the efficiency doesn’t matter that much.

        3. The Kinzua Dam in western Pennsylvania includes a secondary reservoir of that type.

          The authority running it originally banned fishing in the upper lake. That is, until mondo-big fish did more and more turbine damage. Then, fishing was encouraged.

          Another noteworthy bit of trivia. It was completed just before Hurricane Agnes (1972) struck the area with record rainfall. Damage downstream was greatly mitigated by using the deluge to perform the initial fill of both reservoirs.

          1. Carmen Diversion Dam, takes water that naturally flows under ground (some still makes it to the natural emergence at the Blue Pool), diverts it into a dammed valley, then it is rerouted back into the McKenzie river system.

            One thing the dams in Oregon, especially the Willamette & McKenzie dams, are they are mostly flood control dams, with electric generation added. With the added benefit, for most of them, environmentally, the need for fish ladders is limited; ocean migrating fish stocks don’t go that high & a lot of the current trout stocks aren’t native.

                1. bit better power storage out that way. We don’t have the altitude change. If say, the 3rd or 4th dams upriver failed, my house, which is a bit more than a block away from the first dam, might see some water in the basement. I live, iirc from the sales paperwork from HUD, “- on a potential flood plain, No Federal Flood Insurance required”. Heck, if the next dam upriver collapsed I might not get wet if the collapse is eminent and they open up all the gates of the first. Workplace might be flooded (years ago it did) but if I recall right, none of the housing here in Menominee or Marinette are required to have Flood Insurance. A bit of flooding happens upriver in McAllister/Webster along the river between it and 180, but not the highway itself. During thaw and when we get a lot of rain, and they open the flow gates (5 open fully and 2 partially is the most I’ve noticed) the water level from here to the mouth rarely raises more than a foot.
                  When I lived in Kenner, La, the river level was regularly higher than the roofs, and I lived in one of the highest sections of the New Orleans area. After Katrina, I’m told the flooding got under the house but didn’t come close to the floor level. My Aunt and Uncle bugged out afterwards because loss of power affected my aunt’s MS. She needed AC for best function. One or two slab floor houses got water, but otherwise nothing. Now if the Levee breaks, cue Led Zeppelin

                  1. Approach to the Smith Reservoir via Trail Creek Campground, is impressive enough up the steep gorge. The approach to Cougar Reservoir dam is “holy s$$$”.

                    Should there be a failure, of either of them, not sure how the Willamette Valley would be effected, given the actual distance, & smaller dams* along the river system. The McKenzie River corridor / hwy 126 & Aufderheide Drive North are SOL, up a creek without the paddle … The amount of force behind these dams is unimaginable.

                    * Think about it. I’m calling the Leaburg dam, on the McKenzie, a “small dam”. In Oregon river systems, it is; never mind the actual dam’s height.

                    The Roosevelt & Hoover Dams are bigger & impressive especially because you can “see” everything. Not as awe wow if you’ve already seen the Cougar Reservoir, which leave a lot to the imagination, because you can’t see the entire lake from the dam, nor the ground around it (for all the trees …).

                    1. Should there be a failure, of either of them, not sure how the Willamette Valley would be effected

                      CAUTION: Nit-Pickery Ahead!

                      That should be affected.

                      Please learn to tell your eff from your aff.

                      (Thif criticifm pofted entirely to expel that laft pun.)

                    2. Hey. Now. I spelled it correctly because auto corrupt didn’t catch it … hmmmm oops … I mean “auto corrupt strikes again, pretty sure I meant to type affected”, just didn’t catch the correction … 🙂 🙂

                      “(Thif criticifm pofted entirely to expel that laft pun.)”

                      He He Ha Ha 🙂 🙂 😉 😉

                    3. RES Rule of Internet Discussion #7:

                      We ALL get fumble-fingered, rewrite phrase incompletely, reach for less than optimal words and make bone-headed boo-boos in our haste to be at least half witty. Pointing out such typos, spelling errors, wrong word selections, and gaffes in general is only valid when they permit a pun, joke or otherwise recognition of humour unintended.

                      I am relieved you perceived what I conceived consequent to your effect and are unaggrieved by what I believed myself to have achieved.

                  2. I have MS as well and staying cool is absolutely essential. Air Conditioning that cools things the way I need it, not to the temp the green weenies demand, is vital to my health. Heat and MS do not play nice together.

                    1. A few years before she determined she had MS (the Docs took two more years to decide to test her for it and lo . . .) the old furnace in their house died. She was a hairdresser and one of her customers’ hubby was a Plumbing and Heating salesman. He set up an AC system for install as a Will Call at his supplier and Uncle and I went and picked up the goods, did the install minus the Freon hookup. He had a crew come by on a weekend as a side job for them to hook the compressor to the Evap etc. and inspect our work (though he knew it would be fine, Uncle did regular handymen work for them on the side as well). A few days later, he stopped by to check on things himself and when he saw the compressor unit he looked a bit nonplussed and asked to see the Will Call receipt. When he saw it he said “I won’t say anything if you don’t say anything.”
                      um what?
                      “I speced a 10 ton unit as good enough for your needs with good margin, but they gave you a 12 ton unit and charged you for the 10.”
                      You could swing meet in the place.
                      She kept it at 65 and it did just fine in NOLA, in August.
                      Biggest issue we had was we needed to fab a drip pan for the drip pan. The condensation would be so cold, the pan would get condensation on it and itself drip. But it stood them in good stead when her MS got worse.

          2. There was a new reservoir in New York, which they expected to fill up in seven months, when a hurricane struck. They immediately opened the flood gates as wide as they went. It still was full in six hours.

    2. A lot of hardcore Greenies live in the People’s Republic of Kalifornia. When I lived there, “rolling brownouts” and occasional blackouts were so common as not to be noteworthy.

      I lived in Sacramento. The state Capitol… “and if the electrical grid in the capitol of the most powerful, advanced, richest state in the Union can’t keep up, imagine how bad it is in the primitive areas on the other side of the Rockies!”

        1. I was a lot happier before it was decided to link Texas into the national grid. And before our regional power provider announced it would go 100% alternative by 2050. I remember the summer of the rolling black-outs. No thanks.

          1. If we’re still alive by 2050 we’ll all be f***ed. They don’t care about any of this. It’s all just sound bites to get into power. Power and accompanying perks are all they want. It’s all they can see.

            1. And no, no, no! You COMPLETELY misunderstand the poor dears. They just want what is BEST for you! Amd what is best is always doing as you are told by your betters.


              Sarcasm that concentrated leaves a nasty taste in the mouth…..

            1. And *this*, exactly this, is the Big Deal about having A National Smart Grid — or at least half of it.

              All our experience to date, *all of it* since grid-distributed AC electricty began, says that sooner or later grids will go down (even though, IIRC, not all of them have *yet*). And from what I see, the ones that haven’t done it, or haven’t done it as regularly (I”m looking at you, highly-“coupled” Big Blackout of [insert year] Northeast), are the ones *least connected* to the rest of our power transmission infrastructure, a.k.a., grid.

              Though I’ve never done this for a living and don’t have a nice little URL to post on it, more’s the pity. (But see also “Lights Out” by Ted Koppel, yes that guy.)

              The *other* half is that ritzy-glitzy-sounding word “smart” — which can be used to mean various things, but *often* means very much the same as “hackable.”

              National Grid (highly interconnected, not semi-isolated into regional sub-grids like we still more or less are now) = national power failure, not just regional one(s), sooner or later.

              Smart Grid (unless it’s “smart” *only* on the “sensory” side, not the “motor” or “command” side) = power grid hacking, when not if. (Red China, North Korea, Russia, pay me $1G in Bitcoin or else… step up and try to win the race!).

              National Smart Grid? Yep, right first time, *both* of those in one.

              No firewalls. Rotten door security. Sure, I’d love to go to that nightclub.
              What could possibly go wrong?

      1. “and if the electrical grid in the capitol of the most powerful, advanced, richest state in the Union can’t keep up, imagine how bad it is in the primitive areas on the other side of the Rockies!”

        Residents of the Intermountain West: “What’s a rolling brownout?”

        1. If Colorado keeps going the way it is, a number of residents might find out.

          (Fortunately, it looks like the courts are going to save Boulder from itself, at least for the time being).

        2. Yep. We had the occasional long outage, but that was largely because trees had a nasty habit of falling on power lines, and weather didn’t always permit timely repair. (December of 96 sticks out as a bad one)

        1. Ironically our neighborhood has alternative blocks with utilities underground. Our section is 10 to 20 households. For whatever reason we go down more than any others in the neighborhood. Failure point is where it goes underground. We were out for 3 days (way less than most) during the 2016 silver thaw. We always know when we go out & the houses across the street go out, then it was a major transformer group that got involved with an vehicle accident.

            1. When I say 3 days is way less. I mean less than the week or two that some places in town waited & that didn’t count for outlying areas. Despite the outside help sent by out of area utilities. The screech heard when one (privilege) city section heard that local crews started getting 24 hours off, rotation among ALL the utilities in the area (EWEB, EPUP, SUB, + whatever small outlying community utilities) after over 2 weeks of 24 hour work days, was epic (I think they got delayed a bit, a little on purpose, definitely didn’t jump to the head of the line with that outburst). The outburst was short. But it was there.

              Been a while since this area has an ice storm that bad. It brought down limbs out of our Giant Sequoias for 3 or 4 days. Lost 1/2 of the limbs on the trees on the side between the house & the tree. Dropping limbs: 12 to 18″ diameter, most 10 or more feet long, from 30 to 40′ high; piled 5 to 6 feet high not too compressed, but some. AND they were heavy … had to be cut into foot or smaller to be picked up.

              We were lucky. Nothing hit the house directly, all came straight down. A few of the bigger limbs came down, hit the ground then bounced into the roof edge resulting in dented gutters (shook the house). At that we were grateful that nothing came down on the street/sidewalk side. You know where families park to walk their kids to school … We had the trees taken out that next August.

              By the way. Power outage? We cheat. Between all the camping gear (lights, etc), wood stove (heat), & RV (gas top & oven & small generator for laptops/phone charging), we were fine. Showers were missing (water worked, just no hot water), but mom, & sister, homes still had power …

        2. That depends. Underground lines are less susceptible to things like trees falling on them, but they’re more susceptible to flooding, and the increased difficulty of maintenance reduces their reliability further.

          1. I think I’m spoiled. Our electrical company is a well-run municipal district, with far lower costs than the overlapping gas company (which also does electrical in other areas. You may have heard of them. Their wires sparked two of the worst wildfires in California history. Though to be fair, I will state that they’ve found bullets and holes in the site of the more recent one, so it may be some idiot’s fault and not theirs.)

            Anyway. SMUD is a good group and they keep on top of things. They redid the lines under our street in the last year, too—at least, they were doing something that required digging them up.

    3. “We just put all the excess population into little pods, insert wires, and use them to make electricity! Green! Natural! Recyclable! Sure it will work, I saw it in a movie once…”

    4. Like “alternative medicine”

      If they worked, they’d just be called “power generation” and “medicine”

  5. Simply adding solar panels to a home costs more than $10K. The estimate that I saw for the California “must have new construction” law is that it adds 20K to the expense of building the house.

    And what else did I notice while my brain was bleeding… Oh, effing “historically impoverished.” It’s a bad idea anyway to “equitably” distribute anything as that generally means that nothing is *equally* distributed or distributed on an equal basis. The word “equitably” means that some people are favored by policy over other people. It’s the opposite of equality. It’s formal and deliberate favoritism. But but… “historically impoverished” as the way to choose who gets the bennies? Why not just “impoverished?” Because that qualifier “historically” means that the favored demographics don’t have to be impoverished NOW… they just had to have been some other time. And even if some people are impoverished NOW that other people in the demographic might be incredibly wealthy and they will still be among the favored.

      1. Nope. That’s now how this works and you know it. It doesn’t matter how many generations of poverty there are, someone somewhere else who looked like you was wealthy.

        I WISH I was misrepresenting the “logic” here. I really wish I was. It can only end in a very bad place.

        1. But the same is true of the “historically impoverished” groups, too. All it really means is “we’re out-and-out racists and don’t care if you notice”.

              1. Seriously – I am reading Kurt Schlicter’s “Peoples’ Republic” and “Indian Country” and that is exactly what has played out in those “blue” segments of the formerly United States. He posits a separation: the west coast/NE quadrant formally split from the rest of the country, call themselves the People’s Republic, and proceed to wreck the place, a la Venezuela, by choosing to put into practice all those wonderfully social-justicy notions that sounded so great in the college classrooms.
                Meanwhile the “red” portion, centered on Texas, carries on quite happily – although blamed for everything bad that happens in the People’s Republic. (Well, that’s one thing that he didn’t have to make up.)

                1. A separation probably won’t work. If the “red” portions prosper then the “blue” sections will blame all their troubles on them and attack.

    1. “Historically impoverished” means ripping off a disabled woman born to a single mother for the benefit of a millionaire.

  6. This kind of stuff doesn’t worry me much. It’s crazy and evil, but it’s so obviously unworkable that I know that there would be an actual shooting war before anything in this book was put into action.

    There are two things the Left doesn’t get about their fantasy of taking over and living the communist dream life.

    1. Non-Leftists are not the law-abiding people they think we are. They’ve mistaken our respect for laws, and more importantly the *system* of laws that this country has in place, for a general obedience to all laws, no matter what they are. They don’t imagine that we would ignore the laws if we thought they were immoral. We would continue to behave according to our moral codes, which don’t come from them.

    2. No matter what system politicians put in place — anytime, anywhere — everyone is a capitalist. A plan that assumes people will behave differently because your economic theory depends on it is DOA. That’s why Leftists are counting on everybody just blindly obeying their proposed edicts and pretending to not notice they don’t work.

    So now they have a little political power and will try to reshape the world by yelling and proposing doomed laws, which is better than yelling and rioting.

    1. The thing is that all the left wing “common sense” solutions to what they term the gun problem are based in the same denial of reality and how people respond to laws that cannot possibly work.
      As has been demonstrated far too many times, when confronted with reality the left just doubles down on stupid.

      1. As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
        I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
        Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

        We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
        That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
        But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
        So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

        We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
        Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
        But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
        That a tribe had been wiped off its ice field, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

        With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
        They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
        They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
        So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

        When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
        They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
        But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

        On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
        (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
        Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

        In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
        By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
        But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

        Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
        And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
        That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
        And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

        As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
        There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
        That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
        And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

        And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
        When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
        As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
        The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

        Rudyard Kipling

    2. > They don’t imagine that we would ignore the laws if we
      > thought they were immoral.



      Have, do.

    3. They’ve mistaken our respect for laws, and more importantly the *system* of laws that this country has in place, for a general obedience to all laws

      Laws are respected exactly to the extent that they are viewed as a legitimate result of a process of delegated sovereignty. We elect representatives, we petition those representatives for redress of grievances, we accept the laws thus passed.

      When the laws are no longer perceived as a result of such a process, when they become icons of a seizure of our granted sovereignty by unelected, unrepresentative, power-grubbing bureaucrats (e.g., the “Deep State”) then, as was written some 242 years ago:

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

      That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

      Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

      But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

      1. The problem is that after this starts and for a long time after things are not that bad, they may even be alright. They will get worse but that will take time. And fighting back can cost a great deal.
        It is not only the Law that counts it is the Law Enforcement. You must always remember that it is not cowardice to be reluctant to fight, it is prudence. This reluctance to fight is what the progs see and they misinterpret it as unthinking following of the law. Unlike the Progs who see violence as a dial to go up or down, we see it as a switch that is off or on.
        We see that if we start there is no ending until we are back under the Constitution and have won because otherwise we are criminals and our lives and the lives of our families are destroyed. So it is a step that cannot be taken lightly but once taken, is not taken in half measures.

        That is why things will have to get much worse before the fighting will start, unless the Progs start it. I hope and pray that this can be avoided but I don’t believe it can. The Progs just aren’t aware enough to understand what is happening, and are so determined in their feelings and thoughts that they cannot change their path.

        Prepare for that day, do nothing to cause it, do everything you can to stop or delay it.

    4. Their idea of us is as proto-authoritarians who want to control everything. Therefore it follows that we would obey every law they pass because it is The Law. Projector isn’t just for movie screens.

    5. “The man of system, on the contrary, is apt to be very wise in his own conceit; and is often so enamoured with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government, that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it. He goes on to establish it completely and in all its parts, without any regard either to the great interests, or to the strong prejudices which may oppose it.

      He seems to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chess-board. He does not consider that the pieces upon the chess-board have no other principle of motion besides that which the hand impresses upon them; but that, in the great chess-board of human society, every single piece has a principle of motion of its own, altogether different from that which the legislature might chuse to impress upon it. If those two principles coincide and act in the same direction, the game of human society will go on easily and harmoniously, and is very likely to be happy and successful. If they are opposite or different, the game will go on miserably, and the society must be at all times in the highest degree of disorder.”

      ― Adam Smith

  7. You really should have included some sort of warning about the possibility of alcohol poisoning at the start of this column. Though this paragraph was hilarious:

    The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation.

    LOLed for a good ten minutes at that. Seriously, maybe Occasional Cortex needs to see about going into stand-up comedy. None of the other “woke” comedians have come up with any line nearly as good as, “Sending your economy back to the Middle Ages is a great way to eliminate poverty.”

    On a more serious note, I’m not sure how much to worry about this idiot. On the one hand, yes, if only Millennials could vote, Bernie or someone like him would be president. On the other hand, older people ARE allowed to vote, and children eventually grow up. I would be extremely surprised if the majority of the Millennials are still gung-ho for socialism in another ten years.

    We need to be vigilant about combating this idiocy, no question, but I doubt Occasional Cortex will ride this wave into power. She’s currently the flavor of the month with all the right enemies to make her popular, but I don’t think she could hang on until 2024, which is the earliest she would be eligible to run for President.

    1. What we have to look out for is bits and pieces being slipped into other things, like the surprises buried in O-care. Like the mess with SESTA’s ” it will stop human trafficking” rolling into a whole lot of other things the Feds could poke their noses into.

    2. Oregon is trying “solar readiness” and “auto charger readiness” for new residential construction. (As an executive order, but it’s largely a one party state in Salem.) I see it as boiling the frog via gradual warming.

      There were no exceptions in the EO. Somebody who lives 100+ miles from big towns, or offgrid, gotta have the charger readiness. I don’t want to think about a solar system big enough to power a car charger.

      Last I heard, the requirements were still in place.

          1. The People’s Republic of New Jersey has legislation pending that seeks to outdo California for craziness, both in imposing a faster “zero carbon” mandate for energy and faster statewide $15.00 minimum wage; they are also pushing through a constitution amendment that would make permanent gerrymandering in favor of Democrats a constitutional mandate, which given the track record of such stuff, will likely be approved by voters, because it would be deceptively worded and promoted. New Jersey is utterly screwed.

            1. New Jersey has long been screwed. For decades it has been far too common, and easy, for denizens of the New York to get fed up with wide-spread mismanagement, astronomical real estate prices, and sky high taxes and move to New Jersey for relief. Alas, they bring many of their attitudes with them. Probably 20% of the people I met in NJ had moved from NY, or were the children of people who’d moved from NY. Thankfully Greater Cincinnati is much farther from NYC, so the transplants from NYC have insufficient numbers to make much cultural effect, other than opening up a few pizzerias serving New York style pizza.

      1. “auto charger readiness”

        That’s 3 or 4 of them there 5 gallon gasoline cans. Need to be rotated out to avoid problems, but that’s the correct way to do it. Yeah, yeah, that’s not what is meant, ox know.

        1. I keep [mumble] cans of non-oxidized gasoline on hand for small engines and emergency needs. That’s a lot more stable than the ethanol-contaminated stuff from the station. Easier on small carbs, too.

          I keep a supply of off-road diesel, too; ain’t going to do an electric utility tractor, no way, no how.

    3. I fear that the majority of the millennial generation are not going to grow up until everything is destroyed and they’re staring the dystopian wasteland in the face.

      1. Something from Peter Townshend seems appropriate here. Either “Baba O’Riley” (aka Teenage Wasteland) or “Won’t get fooled again”.

        1. Would that be the same “Won’t be fooled again” that contains “meet the new boss, same as the old boss”, and talks about how the banners were all used in the last war?

          1. That’s the one. Roger Daltry “Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!” optional.

            At one time I thought the song was a bit cynical. Then I realized the cynicism was far upstream of the composer.

    4. Ocasio-Cortez was born October of 1989 so she would turn 35, the constitutionally mandated minimum age to be president, in time for the 2024 election. But I’ve already heard rumblings from the far left that we MUST change the constitution so that she could run in 2020.
      Being of a “just burn it all down” mind today I lean towards granting them their request.

      1. I’ve already heard rumblings from the far left that we MUST change the constitution …

        Change the Constitution? Change the Constitution? What I’ve seen from the Vox Popui is that we must ignore the Constitution or, at best, double-dog dare the Supreme Court to uphold it against the collective will of the people. We already know there are four votes for a “living” Constitution permitting liberal interpretation, so all that stands athwart their “interpreting” the thirty-five years of age clause into dog years is “Iron” John Roberts.

        1. I think Leftists would be surprised if they ever got their way, interpreting the Constitution and laws to mean whatever they want at the moment. Because if the policy is “anything goes,” then ANYTHING goes. They’d be surprised.

          1. I am certain they would be surprised. They imagine that they alone possess the moral authority to act in enlightened disregard for laws and they alone possess the enlightened moral authority to enact new laws.

            As the source of their presumed authority is conformation to leftist values (see: their sneering disdain for “religious” believers) their tautological fallacy embeds their crania firmly in their fundamentia*, rendering them susceptible to anything outside their closed loop.

            Their will to power is what legitimizes them and theirs is the triumph of the will.

            *This philosophical position also explains their obsession with genitalia, as that is about all they can perceive.

        2. Ben Shapiro had the best response to this; the minute such a candidacy is announced, Trump should declare himself for life and dare the Courts to “do something about it” using the exact words the left uses to insist Ocasio-Cortez can run.

      2. One of the clowns said she should just run for president, ignoring the Constitution and defying the Supreme Court to do anything about it.

        1. So they not only want to let in all the Hondurans they want to turn the US INTO Honduras? (That is basically what happened with the Honduran “coup” about nine years ago.)

      3. Even for her, that’s too much. She objected that they should be talking policy.

        yes, something too crazy for her!

    5. The problem is keeping that gung ho mentality restrained for that 10 years. Otherwise the reason they won’t be gung ho is because they’ve reduced the US to Venezuela status

  8. Most people really do not grasp how difficult electricity is to *store.” Most journalists–including business journalists–don’t even understand that a Kilowatt is an entirely different thing from a Kilowatt-Hour. Measuring the capacity of a battery in kilowatts is like measuring the capacity of your car’s gas tank in horsepower.

    This failure of understanding probably has a *lot* to do with the acceptance of fluctuating energy sources such as wind and solar.

    1. What annoys me is that there are ways to use wind power as a boost, but they are things you have to build around– like pumping water during “peak” wind power hours, or using solar as a booster for AC (I’m less familiar with how that would work) and…basically, don’t build with the stuff that’s irregular, use it to fill in gap demands.

      But that doesn’t give a lot of power. Heck, it could even be done solo– although now I’m picturing the windmills I grew up with, doing their self-same job of pumping water, but affixed to buildings…..

      1. “using solar as a booster for AC”

        We have a partial system on our house. Our heaviest electrical draw happens to be when the sun is shining the most, so it works out pretty well.

        1. It is surprising that a faction of the body politic which is so emphatically dedicated to evolutionary theory fails to recognize that a system of voluntary compliance in which every participant evaluates their own needs and capacities then implements decisions reflecting their cost/benefit analysis and profits thereby produces beneficial results. Those making the decision well prosper and get to make a larger array of decisions (save money on heating and air, thus having more money to invest elsewhere) while those deciding poorly find their choices ever more restricted.

          Next thing they’ll tell us is that a solar energy collector serves as well for a household in North Dakota as one in Arizona.

          1. Um, they don’t really understand evolutionary theory. They *believe* in something that ticks off the Bible Thumpers, that’s all. Their actually grasp of biology comes closer to Lysenkoism and Lamarckism than anything modern. We’re talking about people who feed their cats “vegan” diets.

            1. Finding advanced life forms (ones capable of building eateries) on a planet orbiting Vega would do wonders for the concept of Vegan restaurants, I suspect.

              1. James Blish was of the opinion in his Cities of Flight Tetralogy that the Vegans would pretty much try to wipe us out if given the chance.

          2. It’s really amazing how many subsidized photovoltaic panels are installed in central and upstate NY. I haven’t seen anything resembling the sun in the sky for the last week. Gray overcast skies are the norm here for winter. Sometimes immediately following a major snowstorm we get a bright sunny day- not that it makes it any warmer. But with 8-16″ of new fallen global warming- those solar panels aren’t converting any of that bright sun into usable power.

            Without the government subsidy- in other words- without my money being spent on other people- the useless things wouldn’t be up.

          3. YES. Exactly. Now, the really fun part is when the door-ro-door dollar sales folk come around, we have the quick and easy turn-away. “We’re not interested.” “Why don’t you want solar?” “We already have it.”

            Note that I wrote a short essay once on the *&^#$ lightbulb ban as a perfect illustration of secondary and tertiary effects (“unintended consequences.”) I actually had to break down exactly why something similar for cars would be horrible to someone who had no idea that the costs of compliance would wipe out poorer households. As in, once I explained it, he said he’d never realized that people living on the edge would get pushed over. (Speaking of actual privilege. At least he got it once it was explained to him.)

            1. Got a link to said essay? I’d be interested in reading it. (Not that I don’t already get the gist of it, but I’d like to see how you broke it down.)

          4. I’m now building yet another solar system, being the largest at 3.6kW. I’m happy to say I’ve never had a subsidy, though there were a lot of subsidized systems installed for the ranchers. (Special circumstances; Some Judge decided that southern Oregon wasn’t entitled to any share of the Bonneville hydropower output with its low costs, and the expected loss of 4 power dams on the Klamath River will make matters worse.)

            I did a smaller system (more or less a prototype of the new one) on a flatbed trailer. I had to keep the panel angles lower than optimal for sunlight, so once every snowfall I have to clear the panels. In theory, the new system will self clean. (40 degree angle. Maybe.)

            The tiny systems power a tent trailer and lighting in the garage. That was cheaper than running a circuit from somewhere to run lights occasionally.

            The main rational for the larger systems is a sense of pessimism that the grid will hold up. If it doesn’t we’ll still have fresh water and enough to keep refrigeration and a few essentials running.

            So, in my case, it was identify needs, look at the cost/benefit and resources available (cubic cash is handy) and carry on.

            FWIW, there are a few 8-12MW solar arrays installed in the area. They’re supposed to offset the loss of the dams. I think they’re helping; summer days means irrigation, assuming we have water. If not, air conditioning.

    2. We REALLY need some smart person to invent the Shipstone that Heinlein so frequently referred to in many of his stories. Of course in Heinlein’s future history, Shipstone dedicated his childhood and early adulthood to studying, and then something like a decade or two in seclusion developing the concept and prototype.

        1. Campbell’s superbatteries of the 1930s… Smith’s “accumulators” in the 1940s, van Vogt’s “energy cells” in the 1950s…

          Edison pulled his electric cars off the market to develop a better battery. And we’re still three or four years away from the magic battery, a century later.

          See also: “fuel cell”

          1. Or to use a more modern fiction source, the Zephyr battery from the film Knight and Day with Tom Cruise and Cameron Diaz.

        2. Yup.

          In one book, it’s explained that it’s a secret, and the heroine’s reaction to a bit she hears is that it violates the laws of thermodynamics.

            1. That’s her reaction to a bit of explanation. It’s very clear in the work (including her) that obviously something’s missing.

              1. Truly, have you no confidence in the clarity of your own writing? The phrase “the heroine’s reaction to a bit she hears” was kind of a signal, I thought. [Emphasis added.]

                Or did you not just realize the Bugs clip was intended as a joke?

                As for the Laws of Thermodynamics, if you slide around the T-dimension they entail no proscription, so the developers of that power source are clearly operating in a higher plane than is dreamt of in her philosophy.

  9. >”Most journalists–including business journalists–don’t even understand”

    You could opt for the general case and just stop there…

  10. How does ‘Alternative Energy’ blow suppurating moose tank? Let me count the ways….

    1) It’s intermittent, so it doesn’t do the job. Period, dot. Making it APPEAR to do the job means building equal capacity of non-intermittent power plants, which won’t make money because THEY aren’t guaranteed to be able to sell their power, which the intermittants are.

    2) Both solar panels and wind turbines news rare earth metals, which are toxic to mine and toxic to dispose of. So the position that they are ‘cleaner’ than fossil fuels is questionable…if you don’t mind being screamed at.

    3) Oh, what’s the use. They won’t believe it. They never believe the plain facts until the plain facts but them on the butt, and sometimes not then.

    Did you hear about the cannibal zombie outbreak in Washington? Hundreds and hundreds of brain eating unheard…and they all starved.

    1. It looks like it could be an embezzling scheme involving the PRC. Dem pols shove a bunch of tax money into green stuff, which buys the rare earths from PRC, which shovels donations into Dem coffers.

    2. Solar panels on the roof = mess for fire fighters. Not only do you have another possible source of shorts and sparks, but once those things get hot and start to burn/outgas, they release some really nasty things. (An addition to your (2. )

      1. I’m doing a ground mount solar system for our pumphouse. (Don’t trust the grid? Horrors!) It’s not 100% sure I need a rapid shutdown system, but I’m installing one. Hey, labor’s less of an issue on DIY.

        Rapid shutdown went in the code in 2014 and 2017, but local interpretations and enforcement vary a bunch. OTOH, if it’s rooftop solar for a house, it’s going to be considered as a requirement for new systems.

        AFAIK, conventional solar systems (lead-acid batteries) shouldn’t use rare earth elements. I don’t know lithium battery chemistry enough to judge that.

        1. The high-efficiency solar -panels- use all sort of exotic items, including rare earths. They are large semiconductor arrays.

          1. Exotic materials, yes, sometimes. Rare earth, no.

            I looked it up; (spent my career in silicon fabs), and the “rare-earth solar cell is a bit of, hate to say it, fake news. You make junctions in silicon with materials in the III and V valence band.s. Usually Boron and Phosphorus, though Arsenic or Antimony were common in IC fabs for certain steps. (Looks like somebody got confused several years ago, and that report made it into the journalistic “everybody knows” crap.

            (One article describing the cluster—- is )

            Indium Tin Oxide might get used, but Indium isn’t a rare earth metal…

            The vast majority of solar cells use polycrystaline silicon. Older panels used monocrystaline (which is why they used round cells; that’s how the crystal was grown.) There can be solar cells made from more exotic materials (think Gallium), like LEDs. These can be more efficient than silicon (because device physics), but they’re not that easy to produce. Silicon wins because it’s relatively easy and cheap.

      2. Would interfere with vert vent, too. At best you have to knock em off. At worst you actually wouldn’t be able to vent the roof

        1. If the roof system isn’t too weird, you could attack the north face. Failing that, assuming rapid shutdown, those panels are fair game for fire tools. If no rapid shutdown, “sorry about your house; we couldn’t work on the roof”.

    3. Both solar panels and wind turbines news rare earth metals, which are toxic to mine and toxic to dispose of. So the position that they are ‘cleaner’ than fossil fuels is questionable…if you don’t mind being screamed at.

      That may be a feature rather than a bug. If we go with your previous theory that “alternative energy sources” are ones that are in no danger of becoming practical, then the use of rare earths is a potential backup plan. If solar or wind ever DO become practical to be used on a large scale, the Greens can start screaming about the horrible pollution we’re causing by building them.

      Ultimately, the goal is for everyone to starve in the dark.

      1. Oh, they wouldn’t mind us all starving in daylight, so long as we starve while their self-selected elite enjoy their Waigu.

  11. Good Sir, I appreciate the idea, I really do, but while do enjoy ethyl alcohol in its many and varied forms, that ‘drinking game’ seems an invitation to poisoning. I know you left a warning, but… it’s possible positive-feedback loop and those do not end well. As regards this particular ‘drinking game’, I shall abstain. Mind, that will NOT keep me from enjoying a nice glass of Laphroaig. Ox draft, not daft.

    1. I thought of complaining about the drinking game on the grounds of muh teetotalism. 🙂 Writing up a proper SJW flouncing denunciation is too much work for the jest.

      1. Sorry, Bob, but teetotallers are all totally Nazis and orange and something or reee!

        You have to channel Pres. Trump’s twitter feed instead of SJW for teetotallism.

        1. Actually, I am personally teetotal, and was thinking of the ever so othered and must swoon shrinking violetism. XD

          My ancestry apparently includes Scotch-Irish, and definitely includes German, so I would be part Orange, and perhaps part Nazi.

  12. If nuclear is not renewable (feed U-238 some neutrons, get Pu-239… hey, where’ve I heard that before…hrmm) well, technically solar (and therefore wind) is also not renewable as the source WILL run out. What are the plans for the post-solar times, huh?

    1. When in a snarky mood I like to point out that all energy is nuclear in nature. With their much vaunted renewables the ultimate source is just located very far away. But there’s no escaping the fact that fusion power does work.

  13. If in her iv. 1, she means no carbon-emitting transportation, she just sentenced her constituents to starvation, along with the rest of us. Solar powered or wind powered trains and ships will not be enough to move organically, 0 “carbon” crops from where you can grow things without irrigation to the cities. No irrigation? Nope, because pumps require power. Constant power. Especially at night when the wind is calm, because you lose less moisture if you irrigate then.

    1. Ah, but we’ll be feeding ourselves with “local agriculture”. You know, each of us plowing, sowing, and harvesting enough soybeans to keep up in soy milk and tofu all year round! Just like they did in those golden, oh-so-equitable days of the Middle Ages!

  14. As a bull (of admittedly dubious ancestry) I must object to the classification of her ideas. I fully admit my excreta is unpleasant, objectionable, etc. However, the sheer level of wrongness is another matter. I fully expect hogs would object to her ideas being described as boarshit, and that’s a whole new level of unpleasant.

    1. ….blast if, Orvan, now you have me wondering if minotaur and centar scat would be more like the animal portion, or closer to pig (and thus human) in most respects.

      1. Minotaur scat is probably similar to human, pig, (and bear) as all of them are basically omnivorous. As bad as herbivore excrement can get, meat eaters seem to have a whole magnitude worse smelling, and consistency, poo.

  15. A tale of two stupids.

    Owwww! Oh, my head!

    Sorry – those Andy Kaufman flashbacks really take it out of a body!

    1. Have undergrads fallen so far? I would describe it more like a number of the projects I did in sixth grade, where our teacher wanted us to do things like design “concept cars.” Having a sixth grader’s understanding of how cars work, all of us basically made ones that ran on magic (my favorite, looking back, was the one that had bullet-proof glass in the windows and claimed to increase fuel economy). Similarly, I could imagine many of us coming up with something like this to save the environment. We understood very little about the science and nothing about the economics, but we could write scientific buzzwords and include

      1. Granted, I only have experience from one university where I recently went back for a degree, but coupled with the output I’ve seen elsewhere, yes, this is what you get from graduates nowadays. A professor friend of mine once told his entire class of around 80 that he wept for the future of our country after one assignment. I quickly discovered that the work I used to do to get an ‘A’ was far more than what was required to get one today.

        I was totally unsurprised to find out that Cortez was so young and a recent graduate. She’s par for the course. Undoubtedly she’s been told her entire career, such as it is, that she’s awesome and so terribly smart and empowered.

    2. I’m confoozled. Is this comment in reference to Thomas Kendall’s blog post or to Representative Occasionally-Coherent’s proposal?

  16. The mean square footage of a house in 2017 was about 2500 square feet (rounding down).

    Digression due to a pet peeve:
    Of a house BUILT in 2017.

    Between apartments filling a lot of the demand for tiny houses, old houses usually being smaller and any of the old, big houses with two doors or that you can STICK two doors on to having been divided into duplexes/house apartments, that’s where the demand is. I’ve noticed a lot of the larger places we’ve looked at mention they were previously sub-divided, and the house we own right now was designed so that it could be split into a duplex with nothing but a wall between dinning room and kitchen.

    Because different states figure out square footage in different ways, you can’t even look at tax records. This can make browsing for houses online very “fun”– we found a 5 bed, 2 bath places that is 800 sq ft. Because that’s the ground floor size, you see, which is what they measure, and some places don’t allow stairs or garages to be measured…. Builders, obviously, use the actual square foot of floor space inside the building. ^.^

    1. In most cases, it’s “living space” that’s measured, so I’d be surprised if unconverted garages were measured. (I think California does living space, but they may have a way to search for the footprint size as well.)

    2. Or it could be like our home. County officially has it as 1300 sq ft livable space. The prior owners added livable space (with permits we had to get copies) … But the county has been lax(?) is entering the updated sq ft, for 31 or more years. We’ve looked at adding solar panels. Figure $10-15k. Which nets down to zero, eventually, between the actual rebates, tax incentives, both federal & state, as well as the local utility has to buy the excess produced, in form of utility credits (after you’ve paid your water & sewer). Thus, although you aren’t receiving physical money into accounts, you aren’t paying out cash when the solar power isn’t producing, either. In our case that would be an average of $250/month or $3000/year at current rates; or < 10 year payoff before you are "making money".

      Other home improvements. Already got rid of the ceiling heat. Would say "if we still had that" add another $200/month to the pay off average. Natural Gas furnace (which would be a no no) pay off was a little over 8 years (we were also burning wood regularly – really, really, a no no; for us the wood was free). FYI. That is AFTER replacing the single pane aluminum framed windows with single pain outside windows with double pane vinyl at a cost of $6000. We also have already added ceiling & floor insulation. Short of rebuilding our home (about $400k), not a lot we can do about the 4" stud walls. So, even on average, I'd say $10k per house is WAY under WAG (wild ass guess, just to be clear).

  17. the real goal … would be to produce a campaign document for Democrats, rather than an actual policy proposal.

    Isn’t that the case for almost all Democrat “policy” proposals?

  18. Her proposal reminds me of a high school geology project I did.

    Sampled stream bed sediments for the entire length of a river with the idea of showing that sediment sizes decreased the farther along the river it went. Could not find a single correlation; so in this case had to state that evidence didn’t support the theory.

    Great presentation, until the geology teacher asked if I’d taken into account the fact that the area was buried under a glacier some 15,000 years ago and that might have disrupted things.

    *Close up of a bright red teenagers’ face at a very public “Oh Shit” moment.*

    1. Stream bed sediments have ONE factor that determines particle size and only one. How fast does the water flow? So a very fast moving mountain stream will be all pebbly and rocky. An arroyo that only flows during a flash flood has boulders. A river bend will have sand on the outside curve and silt on the inside curve. “Overbank” floods tend to be silty.

      You had a great idea and no doubt an excellent presentation and a *negative* result is utterly legitimate and I can’t imagine what the teacher thought a glacier 15000 years ago had to do with anything.

      1. Not unless it was… a receding glacier results in isostatic rebound which increases elevation and increased elevation also increases the rate of water flow on account of gravity. In which case you’d have found correlations, possibly, but they’d have been false positives, more or less.

        1. (The density of water is also a factor but as we don’t have alcohol streams and pudding streams or flowing petroleum streams… we call it a constant and we don’t care.)

  19. upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety

    While this might mean requiring common standards for building insulation* it more probably entails installing “smart” meters in every establishment, permitting central control over every unit’s electricity usage. Control, not mere monitoring. If your electricity use at any point exceeds the regulated allowed demand then it can be cut back at the source.

    “Gee, CPAP users, sorry about that power outage but your overnight usage rate was getting excessive”

    *In practice what this likely means is that government will establish programs to tax wealthy homeowners’ already well-insulated homes, compel middle-class homeowners to expend insane amounts to get their insulation “upgraded” to meet new “smart” and “efficient” standards, and subsidize the upgrades of homes belonging to “the poor” and favored minority victim groups because clearly their lack of capital is due to white privilege.

    Also expect renewed complints about “Affordable Housing” because government regulations never contribute to housing costs.

    1. California might actually be about to move in this direction with regards to water usage. And the limits that they’re establishing are pretty tight.

      1. The one nice thing about being my own water and sewer company is I can use as much water as I want to. And do. I am actually glad that it’s just too darn expensive to bring “safe” treated municipal water to my street like teh people in Flint Michigan have.

    2. “Smart Meters”? We get ours sometime this year. They say it is for easier billing & switching over household names when properties sell/renters change, as well as self monitoring … Know electrical is getting them. Not sure about water, even tho both are provided by the same company. Natural gas, have had one since we go it 10 years ago now.

  20. Well, there is little to no chance that a Republican was going to get elected where OC comes from, it was either Her Craziness, or some other Democrat (who may have had enough credibility to actually DO something). So we haven’t really lost too much.

    So all that’s left is to sit back with a bag of popcorn and watch the fun. Frankly, I hope she goes into this full bore and starts writing and submitting legislation. We should cheer her on. Go OC! GO!!!

    She’ll either get her dick handed to her by her own party because they have dreams of being re-elected and this kind of pie in the sky crap doesn’t play anywhere that isn’t absolute BLUE on the proverbial map. OR, the Democrats will actually pass some of it, and we’ll get to read it and see what’s in it. You know the Republican Senate won’t pass it, and even if it did, Trump wouldn’t sign it. So it ain’t going anywhere. Either way we’ll be able to see who voted for it so we know who to concentrate on getting voted out of office.

    1. It depends. If the Democrats can continue to get money and more money from these plans, they’ll go for it. If it cuts into their wallets, they won’t.

  21. he wants to break up giant agriculture conglomerates

    Not only will this mandate elimination of ConAgra and its ilk, it will eliminate canned foods because Campbell’s, Heinz and their competitors (even Amy’s!) all use enormous amounts of power in their food processing (not to mention their shipping, and just consider the waste inherent in filling store shelves with all those varieties of flavors! Nobody NEEDS fifteen variants of chicken noodles!)

    Home canning is also right out because a) government would need to inspect and regulate home kitchens to ensure proper sanitation standards are maintained (and their regulations would make Kosher dietary laws look anemic) b) the power usage and greenhouse emissions accompanying home canning would end the world, and c) eating fresh, locally grown, organic food is Best! no matter where you live.

      1. Tell me who says that and I’ll send them some of the hot sauce my husband’s been making. We’ll send them some of the stuff with ghost peppers or Carolina reapers. (Love is Real, Buckaroo and Challenge Accepted.) Maybe we’ll take some more of the stuff and rub it all over the bottle so they get it on their hands when they open it.

    1. > home canning

      The nose is under the tent in that one. There are already several school districts which have prohibited students from bringing their lunches to school, because they might share something with a classmate, and obviously the school couldn’t guarantee the quality and safety of the food…

      [that Federal money has swung some school lunch programs from “expense” to “profit center” obviously has no bearing on those decisions…]

        1. I’ve heard about it at various times in various places, usually involving a prohibition on peanut butter sandwiches, because allergy.

          No specific places come immediately to mind though.

          1. The only one I’ve heard of turned out to be a summer learning(daycare) program that required everyone involved to buy the provided lunch, and couldn’t bring food from home.

            Some examples of TA’s deciding to take a kid’s lunch because it wasn’t “healthy” enough.

          1. On field trips, at that– which means it was probably not all day, and they were probably NOT the kids who usually packed lunches.

            Notably, there is NOTHING on their website about the subject, now.

    2. Home vegetable gardens, fruit trees, etc. would all likewise be out for the same reasons as home canning.

      There were swipes at home gardens during Obama years with talk about enforcing Taxes on home gardens. Technically, everything you get from a home garden is federally taxable as income, even if it is for personal use and never goes anywhere near a state line. There’s even a Supreme Court decision!

      1. An early step as countries became Enlightened and joined the Communist fold, was to “communize” all the little garden plots families were using to grow their own food, or plow them under and require the families to work at larger community plots somewhere else.

        Generally, some form of starvation resulted… but you know you have real control when you have your subject population by the gullet. After all, if they could survive at a subsistence level without the State, then they wouldn’t be properly under control, would they?

      2. Funny, the home garden was the ONLY reason my parents could feed five growing kids with any semblance of health. (Or at all, really.) But then, my dad was military, and you know the Feds don’t really care about them once they’re inactive.

      3. Wickerd v. Filburn (1942). Grain grown on your property and fed to your livestock affects national grain prices because you are not buying on the market. If that sounds familiar…

  22. Is sort of comforting in a very left handed fashion to know that when Mad Maxine finally takes her dirt nap there is a successor waiting in the wings to fill that niche in the party.

  23. B-iv— “low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities” need some sweet greenifying

    I don’t know, this sounds an awful lot like gentrification.

  24. Hooo Boy! Take a breath – no, really – breathe!
    (1) There’s a halfway good chance that La Idiota will pi$$ off the wrong people, and we will never hear from her again.
    (2) Failing that, this could be very useful in driving the not-crazy Dems and NeverTrumpers into our arms. No being totally crazy themselves, they don’t want that loon anywhere near the nuclear button.
    (3) Finally, if she should – by some miracle – get traction, and her ideas get implemented, she could bring the whole house of cards down.
    And I know our side is better prepared for a total reboot than theirs.

  25. The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation.

    What a GREAT idea! Because such investment has produced So Many Jobs (mostly for prosecutors) upstate in Occasionally-Coherent’s New York!

    Per Wiki:

    Buffalo Billion is a New York state government project led by Governor Andrew Cuomo that aims to invest $1 billion in the Buffalo, New York area economy.[1] The project uses a combination of state grants and tax breaks to spur economic development.[2] Governor Cuomo first announced the program in his 2012 “State of the State” address. The program is modeled on a similar program implemented in the Albany, New York area. A key project in the program is a $750 million SolarCity solar panel factory.

    Apparently this Wiki entry has not been updated recently, as SolarCity was sold to Tesla at a steep discount (also known as sleight-of-hand accounting rules) and has produced only two-fifths of the proposed plant positions (and only one-fifth the number predicted by Governor Cuomo.)

    OTOH, the state prison system has benefitted markedly, increasing staffing to handle such incoming guests as:
    [T]he former head of the SUNY Polytechnic Institute, whom Cuomo tapped to administer his Buffalo Billion plan, and three developers who scored lucrative contracts.

    Alain Kaloyeros, once dubbed a “genius” by the governor, faces up to 60 years in prison.

    Stephen Aiello and Joseph Gerardi of COR Development Co., which built the failed movie studio and abandoned LED factory, and Louis Ciminelli, whose LPCiminielli built the Buffalo factory, each face 40 to 45 years in prison.

    Meanwhile, former top gubernatorial aide Joseph Percoco — whom Cuomo has likened to a brother — is awaiting sentencing for two pay-to-play bribery schemes, one of which included freeing up $14 million in delayed state payments to COR. He faces up to 50 years behind bars.

    [An] audit revealed that between April 2012 and September 2016, 17 programs didn’t undergo mandatory, independent evaluations, and public reports weren’t issued on 12 programs that received more than $500 million in total funding.
    [ ]

    The “investment” has also produced a bumber crop of headlines for the far-right reactionary tabloid NY Post:
    No one is targeting the real corruption plaguing New York
    Buffalo Billion architect sentenced to prison
    ‘Buffalo Billion’ cohort gets prison in corruption case
    Buffalo Billion real estate exec sentenced to 28 months
    Nixon slams Cuomo ‘corruption’ at site of Buffalo Billion project
    Even more evidence of Cuomo pay-to-play corruption
    Cuomo’s claim he didn’t spot corruption all around him is beyond pathetic
    Cuomo’s Buffalo Billion was beyond corrupt
    Cuomo distances himself from disgraced pal after conviction
    Add another case to Andrew Cuomo’s cloud of corruption
    Suspects in Buffalo Billion corruption case found guilty
    Buffalo Billion ‘fraudsters’ knew what they did was wrong: feds
    Buffalo Billion trial has exposed Cuomo’s corruption

    All of those since July 2018.

    1. Dang! Instead of /BLOCKQUOTE after that Wiki graph I appear to have doubled down on the block. Oops. Gee, if ONLY WP had a Preview!!!! function!
      Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
      WP Is An Ass, Judge Posner Delenda Est.

    2. And remember- the new NY AG is going after the entire Trump family Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria style. “Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.

      Cuomo gets a pass on everything you just mentioned. He obviously had nothing to do with any of that illegality. But Trump might have met one of them at a party once….

  26. At a 15 dollar minimum wage, assuming 8 hour workdays, 5 days a week, 50 weeks of the year (2 weeks of vacation), that’s 30 K per job.

    Leave us not overlook that a “Living Wage” is a moving target, that providing so much labor cost will inflate the fisc and require further ratcheting up of “wages.” Truly, it is a gift which never stops giving (and one which, like most Progressives’ gifts, is better to give than to receive.)

    1. $15 an hour is not a living wage for a whole heck of a lot of people anyway. She says she’s going to pay her staff that, her interns… since it’s a total fund that she has I actually do hope she does and that’s where she puts her budget (as opposed to Pelosi’s liqueur bill)… but even if she does, $15 an hour for interns will still limit her interns to those with wealthy families who can support them during their internships.

    2. Minimum wage is part of, or wholly, the “prevailing wage” upon which many Union contracts base pay scale on -all- contracted workers.

      So if the minimum goes up 8 bucks, everyone on the Union scale goes up -at least- 8 bucks.

      -this- is why Unions support hikes of minimum wage. Often, they do so over the howling objections of folks who get screwed by such “raises”, because the real minimum is always the same.


      1. if the minimum goes up 8 bucks, everyone on the Union scale goes up -at least- 8 bucks

        That used to be the case, but those clever California unions came up with a scheme by which they can contract labor for a sub-minimum wage, allowing them to force non-union labor out of the market. I never delved into it far enough to learn if they got away with it managed to sell the scheme, but then I never entirely figured out how Milo Minderbinder made a profit buying eggs at five cents* each and selling them at three cents.

        *Did anyone notice when the cent (¢) symbol disappeared from keyboards? Does anyone recall when that happened? It just makes no sense.

        1. I just looked at an Apple //e and Apple ][+ keyboard, neither of which has a ¢ symbol on it. Nor does the Netronics ELF II keyboard. This suggests that the symbol was fading if not gone as early as 1980, save perhaps on typewriters and dedicated word processors.

          1. With no answer readily available I decided to DuckDuckGo it (DuckDuckGone it?) and found this explanation at Yahoo Answers:

            So when did the “cent” symbol disappear from the keyboard?
            Obviously it’s not really needed much anymore, as I just discovered today that it’s no longer there. Didn’t it used to live above the “6” ? Not much costs mere “cents” these days, and I’m sure that it has probably been missing for years–I just never noticed.

            Best Answer: I can’t remember a single computer keyboard that had the cent symbol, nor the quarter fraction and one-half fraction that also used to be on the typewriter.

            One website had this story to offer:

            When I was a boy, not so long ago, there was a thing called the cent sign. It looked like this: ¢

            It was the dollar sign’s little brother, and lived on comic books covers and in newspaper advertisements and on pay phones and wherever anything was being sold for less than a buck. It was a popular punctuation symbol—no question mark, or dollar sign, certainly, but just behind the * in popularity, and I daresay well ahead of #, &, and the now Internet-hot @. It owned an unshifted spot on the typewriter keyboard, just to the right of the semicolon, and was part of every third grader’s working knowledge.

            In the late 1990s, you don’t see many cent signs. Why? Because hardly anything costs less than a dollar anymore? Actually, the demise of the cent sign has little to do with inflation, and everything to do with computers. And therein lies a tale.

            In the 1960s a disparate group of American computer manufacturers (basically, everyone but IBM) got together and agreed on an encoding standard that became known as ASCII (“***-key”—The American Standard Code for Information Interchange). This standard simply assigned a number to each of the various symbols used in written communication (e.g., A-Z, a-z, 0-9, period, comma). A standard made it possible for a Fortran program written for a Univac machine to make sense to a programmer (and a Fortran compiler) on a Control Data computer. And for a Teletype terminal to work with a Digital computer, and so on.

            So-called text files, still in widespread use today, consist of sequences of these numbers (or codes) to represent letters, spaces, and end-of-lines. Text editors, for example, the Windows Notepad application, display ASCII codes as lines of text on your screen so that you can read and edit them. Similarly, an ASCII keyboard spits out the value 65 when you type a capital ‘A,’ 65 being the ASCII code for ‘A.’

            The committee decided on a seven bit code; this allowed for twice as many characters as existing six bit standards, and permitted a parity bit on eight bit tape. So there were 128 slots to dole out, and given the various non-typographic computing agendas to attend to, it was inevitable that some common symbols, including several that had always been on typewriter keyboards, wouldn’t make the cut. (The typewriter layout had certain obvious failings in computer applications, for example: overloading the digit 1 and lower case L, so it couldn’t be blindly adopted.)

            Three handy fractions were cut: ¼ ½ ¾. This makes sense, especially when you consider that the ASCII committee was composed of engineers. I’m sure they thought, in their engineer’s way, “Why have ¼ but not 1/3? And if we have 1/3, then why not 1/5? Or 3/32?” Similarly, the committee apparently found $0.19 an acceptable, if somewhat obtuse, way of expressing the price of a Bic pen. At any rate, the popular and useful cent sign didn’t make it.

            And so the cent sign was off keyboards, terminals, and printers. Not that many people noticed right away. The companies behind ASCII sold big, expensive computers that were used to run businesses, and few cared that there wasn’t a cent sign character on one’s new line printer. Heck, if your printer could handle lower-case letters, you were state of the art.

            But when personal computers began to appear in the late 1970s, the primary application driving their adoption was word processing. These new small computers used the ASCII standard—after all, that’s what standards are for. By the millions, typewriter keyboards (with ¢) were traded in for Apple IIs and IBM PCs (without ¢). While it’s true that the cent sign was ultimately made part of other larger encoding standards, and is possible to create at modern PCs with a little effort—the damage had been done. Without a cent key in front of them, writers of books, newspapers, magazines, and advertisements made do without. And over time, $0.19 began to look like the right way to say 19¢. In another few years the cent sign will look as alien as those strange S’s our forefathers were using when they wrote the constitution.

            Second Response, also good:
            The ¢ symbols used to be on most North American English typewriter keyboards.

            But when designing the ASCII character set for computers, the designers decided to put in characters like \ | ` ~ { } and so were forced to drop characters that often appeared on typewriters, like °, ½, ¼, ¾, and ¢. (IBM was involved also, but needed to get a new character set out on the mainframes before ASCII was ready, so they invented EBCDIC,)

            These missing characters were usually put back in on again in most extended ASCII sets and so were easily available to anyone who wanted them.

            For example, in the first Microsoft computer in 1981, make sure Num Lock is on. Press down the left Alt key. Type 155 on the numeric keypad. Release the left Alt key. (The right Alt key also works on many computers.) If you now have Code Page 858 as your DOS character set instead of Code Page 437, you will have to type 189 instead. Or you can use an initial zero which tells the machine to use your Windows code page instead of your DOS code page, and type 0162 instead.

            The ¢ symbol has also always available on the Macintosh (Option 4) for those machines set up for English and on Linux machines as well that have the Compose key feature installed. You type the compose key, then either “|c” or “c|” or “c/” or “/c”.

            Those “strange S’s our forefathers were using when they wrote the constitution” are alſo available in almoſt every Unicode Latin Letter font.


            NB: the first answer continues interestingly, for those interested in such phenomena

      2. “The real minimum wage is zero.”

        “No it isn’t!”

        “Who fills your gas tank?
        How much do you get paid for doing it?
        Who bags your purchases, or even checks you out, at Walmart?
        How much do you get paid for that?
        The real minimum wage is zero.”

        1. “Who fills your gas tank?” <— Oregon, so not me. Funny stories. Cross the Oregon border, any direction, get to first gas station & wait & wait … look at each other, giggle, together say "Oh, not Oregon" … get out & figure out if we have "pay first" or not.

          Rest of it … yes, zero.

  27. she wants to “mitigate” “inequalities in income and wealth”, by “equitably” distributing federal and “other investment”

    Residents of Appalachia, America’s longest standing community of poverty, are advised against holding their breath awaiting this largess. Your homes will be declared Federal parkland and you will be forcibly relocated, like the Cherokee before you, before this mitigation creates one new job (outside of the jobs provided to quislings, kapos, trustees and other local betrayers of your ancestral culture’s values.) Your region will become one giant Federal “Superfund” reclamation project, providing useful bureaucratic jobs for decades without restoring one single shovelful of “pristine natural wealth.” (If you’re lucky – more likely you will be host t multiple reenactments of the Gold King Mine Disaster.)

  28. `Innovative` financing structures.

    Wasn’t it just such “innovative” housing loan structures which gave us the great collapse of 2008, 2000, 1989 (S&L Collapse) and the Great Depression?

    1. > Yasser Arafat died a billionaire

      …after being formally received by William Jefferson Clinton in the White House, as a visiting chief of state. “Hey, we’re all men of the world, we’ll just forget that Black September stuff, and those eleven people you murdered at the Olympics in 1972, they probably deserved it; and besides it was more than twenty years ago, no need to keep digging up old news…”

  29. That was a lot of work, to read all that bullshit. Thomas Kendall put the time in. Kudos, bro.

    The thing to realize from the start is that, as Thomas discovered, everything in there is a lie.

    What’s been done here is somebody made a Christmas list to Santa. But not their own list, they made one for every lower-class scrub in New York City who might vote for Occasionally-Cortex. Everything in it is a lie. Even the voters it is aimed at know its a lie.

    But they WISH it was true. So they’ll ask Santa for a pony even though they live in a 3rd floor walk-up in the Bronx, because Santa can do magic. It will be a magic pony.

    What will -actually- happen? That’s more interesting.

    Example: “iii. upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety”

    I’ve seen this one in the wild. Once upon a time in the 1980s the government of Ontario instituted a policy of “upgrading” residential housing for energy efficiency. The home owner could get a grant and have a team come in to “upgrade” their house. The government paid half. Sounds great, right?

    What happened was newly formed companies of politically connected individuals (you had to know somebody to get the gig) would charge ~$2,000 for a “package” of upgrades. The actual work consisted of caulking the inside of the windows and changing the furnace filter. This was at a time when painting an entire house inside and out was around $3,000, including materials. They’d come in, caulk for 4 hours, and that would be it. So they’d overcharge the home-owner, and THEN double it by overcharging the government program.

    (If anyone is still wondering why Canada is punching far below its weight on the world stage, and why we don’t have any armed forces, that’s why. Everything in this country is like that.)

    That’s what will actually happen. That’s what happened in the Soviet Union and the rest of the Iron Curtain countries after all, and that is why they no longer exist.

    But you can’t tell people that. Because now you’re just a buzzkill and you are taking away their pony. They won’t blame Occasionally-Cortex for lying. When Christmas morning comes and their ain’t no pony under the tree, they will blame YOU.

    This is the scam that enslaved Russia for 70 years and killed 100 million people world wide. Yasser Arafat died a billionaire from this.

    So instead of saying Cortex and Bernie and the rest of these Dems are -stupid-, maybe consider the fucking death toll if they get what they want.

    And if you think this is tinfoil-hat paranoia, LOOK AT DETROIT. They got every single thing they wanted in Detroit since the 1940s. Or look at Chicago, and count the dead. The Dems have run Chicago since Al Capone was public enemy Number One.

    Or for that matter, just look at Ontario. There are windmills everywhere that cost billions of dollars, but there is no industry left. The companies all fled. Even the damn pickle company fled the town near me, and they’d been here almost 100 years. All over the province there are empty mills, warehouses and factory buildings. All there is left are mines and lumber, because those are nailed to the ground and can’t leave. They want to though, because the cost of fuel and power is killing them. In Alberta companies are leaving the oil in the ground because it costs them -more- to sell it. Why? Overcharging for caulking, writ large.

    These are communists. They are not stupid. They’re thieves. They want to steal everything you have, and eventually they’ll take your life. From famine, if nothing else. That’s what they are. Work outward from there.

    I do have one conundrum though. How the hell do you fight a chick who’s selling magic ponies?

    1. The merely ignorant can be taught, and a lot of people in the USA are just ignorant and uninformed. They don’t know about history.
      The willingly deceived can’t be taught or reasoned with. Even when they get what they richly deserved, they’ll still blame you for not trying hard enough to stop them.
      The deliberate frauds just don’t care.
      The first group can learn, usually after they outgrow their callow, sophomoric youth. The other two are pretty much lost.

    2. Just a quibble on the Chicago front: You appear to be ignoring “Big Bill” Thompson, the last Republican mayor of that city, who held office for much of Al Capone’s career there – and was in cahoots with him.

      1. Not up on Chicago history. Just saying the body count there is large, and the Dems have been running it for a very long time indeed. They’re okay with large body counts, is where I was going with this.

        1. Chicago is proof that the environment defines the system.

          As for large body counts, the Left seems to see them as feature rather than flaw. Large body counts, after all, justify all sorts of regulation and selective enforcement thereof.

          From Preston Sturges’ cinematic masterpiece The Great McGinty:

          Akim Tamiroff, The Boss: Now, listen. Do you want to be reform mayor?

          Brian Donlevy, McGinty: What do you mean?

          The Boss: What do you think it means? Don’t make me say anything twice, I’m irritated today. I said, “Do you want to be reform mayor?” The mayor of this city?

          McGinty: What have you got to do with the Reform Party?

          The Boss: I am the Reform Party. Who do you think?

          McGinty: Since when?

          The Boss: Since always. In this town I’m all the parties. I’m not going to starve every time they change administrations.

  30. We’re going to end up like Venezuela aren’t we? Starving to death is not how I wanted to go.

    1. Sarah has noted in the past that it’ll likely take us longer to get there. The US has a lot more “fat” in its economy and infrastructure than Venezuela did.

        1. Only to the extent that we have a lot more people in this country. I would hazard a guess that the percentage of the population that is politicians happens to be about the same.

  31. Cement making consumes a lot of fossil fuel energy roasting the limestone. From Wikipedia: “First calcium oxide (lime) is produced from calcium carbonate (limestone or chalk) by calcination at temperatures above 825 °C (1,517 °F) for about 10 hours at atmospheric pressure:” So infrastructure construction uses a lot of fossil fuel energy, and maintaining it also does to a lesser extent.

    1. Solar power! (Well, maybe)

      At one atmosphere…hmm what is the time / temperature needed in, say, Denver? Or lower pressure than that? (Of course, it takes energy to lower the pressure in your calciner.)

      1. Yeah. But that would just about turn the lights out in Denver for a single day’s production.

    2. Curing Derp inflicted by the stings of the Good Idea Fairy by the immediate application of logic and possible unintended consequences is not exactly the Left’s strong suit.

    1. if Occasional-Cortex wrote ANY of this manifesto, I’ll eat a bug.

      I read recently a comment supposing AOC’s Twitter feed was somebody other than her, basing the argument on the cleverness of that feed and the way it exploited conservative reflexes versus the obvious floundering of AOC in any interview she’s ever given. As both circumstances require quickness of thought and an ability to frame concepts effectively one would expect parallel performance if the Tweets and on-camera persons were one.

      On the other hand, it is not improbable that a person who is so maladroit on her feet is capable of “deep” thought when given leisure to cogitate. I know of at least one person whose on-line persona is vastly wittier and more clever than his meat-space presence, though modesty precludes speculating as to that person’s identity.

      But two aspects reflecting the same personal characteristics, as we should expect to see in Twitter and televised interviews? It seems reasonable to conclude AOC a sock-puppet and wonder whose the hidden hand that is up there?

          1. I’m always able to come up with a snappy comeback. Five minutes after its useful delivery time expires…

            1. I was going to add or “her”. But someone made a broader remark first.

              As TRX stated “I’m always able to come up with a snappy comeback. Five minutes after its useful delivery time expires…”

              I resemble that. So ^^This^^

      1. Well, he’s in good company, Winston Churchill only got so many zingers because he planned them out ahead of time and had a bunch on hand to throw out.

    2. Her “manifesto” is actually a standing policy memo from the Democratic Socialists of America, a/k/a. Just Another Name for Hard Core Commies

  32. Then there’s what Clausewitz calls Friction: the “…myriad of small, but collectively numerous things that happen that cannot be foreseen or planned for, and which cause leaders to spend time on unforeseen decision making.”
    Top down, centralized planning has tons and tons of this friction, which is one reason the Soviet states ran about as well as an engine lubricated with industrial abrasive.
    One result is that lawlessness becomes ingrained in your people- if you must break one or two laws to survive and function, you don’t particularly mind breaking three or four to get ahead. Which leads to corruption in your officials
    But I seriously doubt Occasional-Cortex knows any of this history (and has probably dismissed anything outside her worldview as racist and patriarchal anyway).

    1. “But I seriously doubt Occasional-Cortex knows any of this history…”

      You know, I think she probably does know it. At worst she has close advisers and handlers that know it.

      You can see how that makes it worse, right? She knows its the wrong thing, she knows it will all end in famine.


      Because she will be far away on a sandy beach drinking out of a coconut with a little umbrella in it when the shtf event happens. Or so she and her advisors plan. Mussolini got caught by the mob, oops.

      At this stage of the game, nobody on the Left can claim honest ignorance anymore. Venezuela is happening RIGHT NOW and they still rattle on, that’s not ignorance or stupidity. That’s malice, forethought and intent.

      1. Everyone knows junkies and drunks, but people still do drugs and booze anyway. Every lady knows someone in a seriously abusive relationship, but some will still date bad boys anyway. And so on.
        Some people just cannot learn from the example of others.
        Marxist Barbie comes across as a genuine True Believer- I’m convinced she, and most young SJW’s really do not have the historical background to know that these bright ideas have failed whenever they have been tried. When would she have had a chance to study any history that wasn’t Zinn derived Oppression Studies nonsense?
        If she stays on her True Believer path, the rest of the party will cut her off before she cuts off their rice bowls, and she’ll be out toot sweet.
        But, she’ll probably quietly sell out like most of the party leaderships, and mouthing various Lefty platitudes while raking in cash from various pork barrel funds for personal cronies.

        1. You could be right, I have no special knowledge of AOC, never met her.

          All I’m saying is that lately I’m a lot less inclined to charitably assume stupidity among the Left. I think they’re fully aware and still doing it anyway, because that’s where the money is.

          One of the great things about being an Atheist appears to be a complete lack of concern about consequences. They think nothing is there to call them to account for their crimes, and behave accordingly.

          1. The history of socialism lacks no sufficiency of performers indifferent to the collateral damage of their schemes and wholly willing to profit from the gullibility of others.

            Free market economies enjoys such folk in equal abundance but seems to have found methods of limiting their damage and restraining their exploitativeness.

            While the worst of both worlds expresses itself in what is commonly called Crony Capitalism, that ignores that all socialism relies upon cronyism, carefully veiled. After all, what defines newly recognized expertise so much as their reinforcement of the dogma of extant experts?

            1. *musing*

              Yes, that is a warning this will be wordy, have lots of quotes, and likely have errors showing I’ve had my vitamins and a mouth-full of coffee so far. Worse, the Contessa has a stuffy nose, so I spent most of my sleeping hours being an angle-pillow to improve breathing.

              Warning given!

              Free market economies enjoys such folk in equal abundance but seems to have found methods of limiting their damage and restraining their exploitativeness.

              Well, part of that is because “free market” just means “doesn’t have an economics system built in.”

              All the stuff that is required for countering “indifferent to the collateral damage of their schemes and wholly willing to profit from the gullibility of others” is covered by entirely different areas of organization, mostly direct defense of basic rights, and secondary defense of property rights such as fraud prevention. Since socialism requires violating basic human rights* as a basis, it’s much less robust at preventing any of the other threats.

              Which would be why communism and socialism is specifically called out as immoral in the Catholic Catechism**, while only morally deformed varieties of ‘Capitalism’ are. Heck, one of the major reasons given is that their centralized planning prevents intermediate bonds from forming, it makes people into cogs. The forms of what gets shoved into ‘capitalism’ in this case (is it clear I think calling it by the communist designation for ‘not communist’ is a bit of a straw-man?) are condemned for the same thing, treating people as important only so far as they promote profit.

              Oddly enough, both systems reduce humans to economic units…socialism to feed the state, deformed varieties of free-market by stripping away or ignoring the rights of all involved.

              *most obviously property rights to start it up, but more basically the ability to improve yourself, and give of yourself
              **fun thing, the CCC doesn’t have a teaching authority inherent to itself beyond being intended to teach the faith, the authority of each statement in it is based on the document it’s sourced from….which are frequently cited in extremely obscure formats. For example, the section that CCC2425 forbidding communism is in, is Part 3 section 2 chapter 2 article 7, “The Seventh Comandment, you shall not steal”. That statement has footnote 185 ⇒ EX 20:15; ⇒ Deut 5:19; ⇒ Mt 19:18.. That’s pretty obvious. The one that does some basic explaining of what stealing is– “2408 The seventh commandment forbids theft, that is, usurping another’s property against the reasonable will of the owner. There is no theft if consent can be presumed or if refusal is contrary to reason and the universal destination of goods. This is the case in obvious and urgent necessity when the only way to provide for immediate, essential needs (food, shelter, clothing . . .) is to put at one’s disposal and use the property of others.190”– has that footnote explaining Cf. GS 69 # 1. There is serious demand for an updated version of St Charles Borromeo of Picayune’s online copy of the Catechism, with links to all the cited documents. I know that they are known, I just don’t have the training to find them, and heck someone probably already did write it all up and I simply haven’t stumbled over it yet.

              1. I find myself much in agreement with you. The Founders drew heavily upon the work of John Locke, particular his “Second Treatise on Civil Government” and the formula of life, liberty, and property as fundamental rights. What is Jefferson’s “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” but a more politically acceptable reformulation of Locke? And while of the Lockean trio only liberty is mentioned in the preamble of the Constitution, other aspects of that great document do. The Fifth Amendment is concerned with all three.

                Most Progressive policy makes a mockery of these rights enshrined within the Constitution, ignoring due process and just compensation in order to allow unfettered enforcement of Progressive whims.

                1. I think it’s because they don’t HAVE much philosophy– they go with the “feel” of “it’s not stealing if I really need it,” and then…stop. Because they got the answer they want.

                  Of course, in the opposite direction, folks taking stuff THEY want to use are violating “but I was using that” and thus stealing, even if the “use” was “I want it available.”

          2. DSA track record is that they are hardcore, true believing commies who believe their mission is to turn us into the Soviet Union.

          3. Malignant intentions are far more comforting than sheer incompetence.
            If there’s an evil plan, at least there’s a plan- someone knows what they’re doing, and things are under control.
            The fact that these idiots are acting out of good intentions, and have no real clue what they are doing is rather frightening.

            1. Note:
              This observation also explains traditional belief in magic.

              It’s much more comforting to think the ocean is a temperamental SOB than it is to think it’s an unknowable enigma that will randomly kill you just because pancakes.

        2. So they’re either stupid, or malicious. That really limits the number of effective responses to them.

      2. Na… I know too many people like AOC. Sure, they might have heard about all that stuff in history class, but they don’t think it applies to THEIR brilliant ideas. They don’t see the correlation between their politics and Venezuela even while using the exact same playbook. They are so convinced that this rosy picture in their heads will be the ultimate triumph of their plans and schemes that they blind themselves to reality.

        Not making excuses for them or anything. Those idiots are delusional and should be treated as such rather than elected to office. But the world is full of idiots, and apparently those idiots vote.

        It’s why we can’t have nice things.

        1. Likewise. I’ve got a few friends who honestly think that Socialism is the only way to get a fair and just society that’s truly inclusive.
          It’s what they have been told pretty much all their lives, along with “smart, caring, compassionate people are Leftist, dumb deplorable people are Righwing racist homophobic haters”.
          And as Uncle Screwtape continually pointed out, good propaganda isn’t based on logical arguments and inescapable logic, but feelings and fashion.

  33. Folks, you are missing out on the brilliance of the Socialist plan.

    The -smart- people will be th ones giving the orders. Thus, the orders will be smart and effective. As long as everyone obeys the smart plan, it will work. Because it is smart, and the smart people will have it all worked out.

    There are no problems with paying for it. The things needed will be orders done. Any needed payments will be ordered. Andy needed funds to be collected will be ordered.

    See? It always works when folks obey their betters.

    And y’all know that they really mean the above. And they really mean to enforce it. And they -will- really break as many “eggs” as needed to finally get that Marxist-Leninist omelet to work out, this time.

    1. And following that plan will make you smart, too!

      Just do not look up the various definitions of “smart”.

  34. Regarding the eliminating all sources of greenhouse gases, wouldn’t then include humans since we produce CO2 by breathing and methane (vastly stronger greenhouse gas than CO2) by digestion?

      1. Water vapor is something like 95% of all greenhouse gases, isn’t it? I vaguely recall hearing that years ago, but right now I’m still purging the blood from my caffeine stream so I don’t have the consciousness to look it up.

  35. 1) No! I will not drink to this, purely out of self preservation. I’d die of alcohol poisoning by the second chapter.

    B) Had to look up the Trabant. Who would have thought that the Yugo would be considered a step up in motor vehicles? Tiny engines from European car companies are nothing new (was looking at the Bedford trucks/vans with their 1.6L engines the other day for a story, yikes), but putting a small motorcycle engine in a “car” and expecting people to actually drive it seems like something you do only when encouraging suicide.

    III) If she really is the future of the Dems, and the Dems are allowed to take control, then it would seem time to turn this cold-war into a hot one. Because by then, there’s no reason not start shooting Democrats/Communists.

    1. There are a couple of countries in Western Europe – France and Italy among them – that have 50cc cars. Some of them have pedal assist. Real four wheeled cars legally operated on public roads.

      The German “bubble cars” of the 1950s and 1960s look like Cadillacs by comparison.

    2. putting a small motorcycle engine in a “car” and expecting people to actually drive it

      There’s the difference between us and Europeans. They put small motorcycle engines in their cars …

      Americans put large car engines in our lawnmowers.

      1. been watching the Cresta Vs Drag Week vids on MCM2 yt channel.
        For those who do not know, Drag Week is an event where you take your hotrod, and run at drag strips across the (this year) SOuth East USA, and you – A: Have to drive the car from track to track, and B: carry all your tools and parts with you (uHaul does a booming biz that week)
        Some Aussies shipped their Toyota here for the events. For the day two racing, Al aka Turbo Yoda, was about to say something (some whitty complaint about US coffee) when a car fired up and kinda rattled the planet. Al says “Street Car in Australia does not mean what it means in America.”

        I love Al.

      2. One of my high school teachers told us about a tour he’d taken to Russia, back in the early 1970s. Intourist to Moscow.

        He said that his overall impression of Moscow was “shabby.” Cleaning and painting weren’t high priorities… but what struck him the most was that with very rare exceptions, Russians didn’t mow grass. There’d be a park, or a hotel, or a theater, nice buildings, surrounded by tramped dirt or waist-high grass, like they’d just been dropped into a field and left.

        Which was probably more or less correct…

        1. You forgot no laundromats. Also very few owned washers never mind dryers. 81 getting 3 sets of clothes cleaned in hotel was going to cost $50.
          Couldn’t believe price, then found out they would be hand washed and understood. No wonder Russian clothe looked like they did and it was so easy for them to tell the foreigners.

    3. For whatever reason, you would still run into a few old Trabbies on the road in (formerly West, of all things) Germany in the mid-late 90s. Absolutely awful little cars, but I guess they had the advantage of being cheap enough to at least get you on the road when nothing else was affordable.

      One of the most terrifying things I ever saw on the Autobahn was a Trabant carrying 4 adult males struggling to do 45 MPH while everyone else zoomed along at about 80.

    4. Top Gear had a great episode about cars built under Socialism- Moskovitches, GAZs, Zils, Morris Marinas, and so on. All were fairly awful (two lost a drag race against a dog).

      1. Speaking of cars and leftists, next time you see a leftist driving a VW Beetle, remind them that the shape of the car was based on a design by Hitler.

  36. been a bad day, so it took this long just to start reading the post.
    I hit my first “quibble”:
    “Trying to make sense out of her “plans” is like discussing philosophy with a schizophrenic.
    I’ve discussed philosophy with a Schiz. He, even when off his meds and ranting, made more sense than Occluded Cortex

  37. “iv. eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries…”
    “Oh, my dear and fluffy lord.”
    This, very much this; squared, factorial, and with merry tinkling bells on.

    “Greenhouse gas” has become so much a policy cliché that many people using the phrase have forgotten *what it means*, which is (in geek-speak) gases that absorb in the part of the infrared that stuff at room temperature radiates. And while carbon dioxide (burning anything with carbon makes it, so does being a living animal) and methane (from gas and oil fields, coal mines as “firedamp” etc., also cow flatulence) usually get star billing, another gas stands head-and-shoulders above all the rest as the undisputed champion of the world.

    Water vapor.

    See the handy diagram (first graphic on the page) at

    (fruits of 2 whole mins. Internet “research”). The strips at the bottom, with labels, show how good various things are at blocking outgoing (blue curves) infrared. Notice how much wider and deeper the “water vapor” curve is compared to “carbon dioxide” or “methane” — the more dark, the more total the blanketing effect — really, it beats *all the others combined*.

    Water is the ultimate greenhouse gas.
    Really. Look at those curves again.

    Note she says “eliminating” — not “reducing” or “mitigating” but eliminating, as in reducing to zero. Which means *no emission of moisture*, period, from your farm or your factory or your “other industry” — at all. Zero.

    I don’t know what she *means*, and maybe she doesn’t either; but this is what she *said*. No farm will be allowed to release water vapor to the air, or it will have to be “eliminated” itself. (Like Melinda Snodgrass’ fictional Martians said about terraforming in their one-line EIS: no environment, no impact. Likewise, no industry, no “greenhouse gas emissions” by industry. That at least would work. (For special singular values of “work” as in, no employment.)

    Maybe we can import crops from Venus (almost no water there) that don’t need any water to grow?
    Then again, maybe we can’t. Meanwhile, what we eat now needs to release water to grow. Uh-oh.

    But, “let ’em eat cake” as Marie A. *almost* said.

    1. Once again, you have put more actual thought (in one post!) into the subject than she ever has.

  38. “Because when I think of innovative financing, for some reason the image of burly Italian men in pinstriped suits and sunglasses begins forming in my mind.”

    No, that’s not innovative financing, that’s going old school with your financing. For innovative financing, you have to look to the guys who came near to crashing the economy in ’08.

    I also wonder if this idiot gets that the primary beneficiaries of this “innovative financing” will be the bankers that she doubtless despises.

    1. For commies like Ocasio=Cortez, what she means by “innovative financing” are “wealth taxes:”, i.,e. outright confiscations of people’s wealth so that government can redistribute it. The DSA platform outright calls for the abolition of capitalism and private property rights.

      1. Well of course they do. They’re actual socialists, instead of idiot social democrat socialist wannabes like Ocasio-Cortez.

        One thing about her, the last name is appropriate–she intends to plunder wealth, not gain it by her own labor.

        1. Ocasio Cortez is a member of the DSA and got their endorsement. She is not a wannabe socialist, she is a hardcore committed commie.

  39. And Time!
    I can’t even finish reading this because the stupid, at a remove is so effing bad I fear permanent damage, and I cannot take a shot from my neighbor because the house is empty.
    This was Middle School kid level ideas (and not the better ones) with a scrabble dictionary of legalese terms randomly tossed in to attempt to give it the look of smart thought.
    This isn’t turd polishing, this isn’t a turd sandwich, it’s polishing a turd sandwich and telling everyone it is the Starship Enterprise “for reelz yo”.

  40. I commend ¡Ocasio! on her strong and forceful endorsement of nuclear power using breeder reactors. I look forward to her voting in support of constructing these by overriding state and local objections nationwide.


    1. That last isn’t shocking. The amount of asinine lackwittery I’ve seen from people with college degrees exceeds what I’ve seen from those without–and on a proportional basis, to boot.

    2. I feel for her economics professors. Because everytime she’s on television, their wives must gi ve them that “how exactly did she earn that degree?” look.

      They are doomed to acquire the haggard look of many uncomfortable nights on the couch.

        1. Yes, because she is a female member of a previously-underserved community (aka minority), so depending on the school, no one could flunk her, and she would have gotten lots of scholarships and grants.

        2. You’ve seen the pictures. No college department has enough professors sufficiently lecherous to try and get that level of crazy in their bed for her to get a major that way.

          1. And make themselves vulnerable to a lawsuit, especially in these days of #metoo? Screwing the coeds is a definite danger to your future, these days, unless you’re a girl having fun with other girls.

            1. Which, in some ways, isn’t a bad thing–what’s the old joke about “write what you know” being the reason so much fiction by academics is about middle-aged professors contemplating adultery?

              1. I’m writing a story about…

                A bully dreamer. Someone that looks at this world that we’ve made and says “we can do better. We should do better. Maybe not perfect, never perfect, but better.”

                Just…she can do something about it.

            2. … unless you’re a girl having fun with other girls

              Sure, that seems safe NOW, but in five, ten years?

              Rule #1: If you are conservative nothing you have done will be considered safe. When their needs require you to be a white zebra with black stripes, that is what they will denounce you as; when they need you to be a black zebra with white stripes they will denounce you as being that. See: White Latino

              Rule #2: If you are progressive you will have to run twice as fast as you can to remain at the head of the pack. Only ostentatious adherence to Progressive Dogma of the day will may protect you.

              1. The logical end of #metoo is to become vulnerable to accusation for ever being alone with any humanoid being regardless of age or preferred gender, animals, or certain types of office equipment.

                And even chaperoning won’t help when they start claiming “and they ALL did it!”

                1. Which is why I’ve been saying that guys need to record their entire lives for several years now.

      1. Sometimes, I think it’s natural talent.

        But, yes, it’s training. I think my parents are disappointed that I wasn’t able to get my degree. I’m almost grateful at this point.

          1. I don’t think it’s the patience. I think it’s a case of we want what we need, and not the BS that surrounds it. I suspect that I could get my degree in a year if I ground down hard enough and was a full-time student. But, I suspect that six months in, I’d be going mad because there is stuff that does not belong to the process of getting my degree that does nothing but add time and justify the hiring of other people.

            1. There are also the problems of having to kiss the rings of those inferior intellectually but ensconced in authority, the need to bend the knee to false dogmas of our day and the fact that after you’ve paid the price you receive naught but a title of trifling worth.

          2. When even places like West Point have been shown to be fully converged, the entire collegiate system is probably beyond hope.

            Sarah goes back to college:

            Day 1: spends evening in ER with critically high blood pressure

            Day 2: shows up for class with flame thrower…

            Day 3: “I say we take off and nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

            1. “Day 2: shows up for class with flame thrower…”

              Hmph. Waste of perfectly good napalm, not to mention the toxic waste that will result from burning the desks and chairs. I’d seal the doors and windows and pump the classroom full of carbon dioxide. Both efficient and ecologically friendly.

        1. My mom is still upset I didn’t do a college degree.

          She changed her major because of…um… “social pressures,” and barely could deal with education as a minor in the 70s because of the BS, but she thinks it can’t be THAT bad now.


  41. If I were Trump, I would instruct the Department of Energy to start up a compensation program like EEOICP (Energy Employees Occupational Illiness Compensation Program) or DOLs Black Lung program for coal mining.

    Because we are fast approaching the moment when all those “free” government solar panels are going to decay and seep toxic chemicals into people’s attics and back yards.

    And the solar companies that installed and ensured they would clean up the toxic waste are likely bankrupt.

    Roll that new Solar Waste Compensation Program and Solar HazMat Department of Energy out for additional funding whenever Marxist Barbie Doll starts wishing for Taxpayer Funded Green Unicorns. The Media will suddenly throw her under the bus like they did Christine Ford and Creepy Porn Lawyer Avannetti.

    Remember all your neighbors and FB friends who were so smug about their solar panelled rooftops? Try to muster some pity next time you cross paths.

  42. That last isn’t shocking. The amount of asinine lackwittery I’ve seen from people with college degrees exceeds what I’ve seen from those without–and on a proportional basis, to boot.

  43. “Innovative” financing structures.
    “Innovative” financing is what gets you and your accountant a bunch of years in medium security.
    Unless you’re the gov’t. Then it gets you the tumbril, hopefully.

  44. Amazing.

    Granted, a “shot” for me usually amounts to a whole fifth (oversized Scot with overdeveloped liver – I am /not/ a cheap date!) it seems I’d have to play this in a liquor store. Severely depleting the rum and Scotch sections (and probably the humidor while I’m about it – good drinks, good smokes. If I’m being taken to Hell – again! – I may as well enjoy the trip, no?)

    I wish I could say that I’m amazed that halfwit got elected, being as far Left as she is, but it just isn’t there. No – wait, let me check – nope. No surprised at all. Just proper frustration with the upcoming generation, with thinking socialism is a good idea and not looking South toward Venezuela and possibly Brazil (I’m a Cold Warrior, and I’ve seen Eastern Europe before & after the Wall. If you want to ram socialism down my throat, bring friends. Lots of them. Wearing NIJ III-A armor or better, although I do tend to shoot for the head…)

    The only sad part about your drinking game is that, after it all, I probably wouldn’t be drunk (hey, I’ve got a lot of practice drinking. Started when I was ten.) But never fear, you /cannot/ get me drunk enough to vote for anything vaguely Left-sounding, small-l libertarianism is too hardwired.

    (Yes, I do approve of some /small/ elements of socialism. Namely, the ones that give us useful things like: roads, fire departments, police departments, emergency medical services, public hospitals, libraries, museums, primary & secondary education assistance, pensions for the aged & disabled, and that sort of thing. I do /not/ approve of long-term social welfare – multi-generational welfare families should be an impossibility! – social welfare lasting more than a year (and taken with job placement assistance AND EFFORT! And training, if necessary…) translation services (everywhere I went that I didn’t speak the language, I had to find my own interpreter or learn the language. Which is why I spoke a dozen languages fluently and 6-8 more passably, once upon a time. How much does translation of everything cost us per year? If you plan to live here, learn the language.)

    (Anyhow, you should see how I divide things.)

    The last Democrat I would have possibly voted for was JFK – the man who united us for several (!) trips to Luna! And why did we ever stop? We should have a going colony on the Moon, useful as a jumping-off point for Mars, Venus, the Asteroid Belt, and the Outer System, if not the stars. /That/ is a “socially-funded” effort I wouldn’t mind paying taxes on, we should have been doing that 20-30 years ago…

      1. For example, before it was shortened to “highway” the correct term for such a road was “The King’s High Way.”

        OTOH, socialism adopts many of the worst traits of monarchism and few if any of the redeeming characteristics. Their leaders are “servants of the people” the same way Cardinal Richelieu was servant of Louis XIII.

        1. > High Way

          As in, “built up above surrounding ground level with with stone blocks, so that you don’t sink into the ground when it rains.”

          Historians often talk about “dig in and wait for winter” when on the subject of Russian military tactics, but they often forget that General Mud is right beside General Winter. And that mud can easily be deeper enough that there’s just a gentle “blurp!” as the turrets of your newest high-tech tanks are swallowed up.

          All-weather roadways were a big deal, as in national security and military concerns, before John Macadam came up with a better system in the 1820s. Like a lot of the men whose efforts reshaped civilization, most people never heard of him, and his inventions are so ubiquitous they’re like air; people don’t even notice them most of the time.

          1. Am reading a work that ridicules humanity for taking so long to invent the wheelbarrows.

            Notice that even with modern rubber tires there are places where it doesn’t get used. With wooden or metal tires, generally, the MUD wins.

            “Wheels” are right up there with “printing press” in the category of “inventions that are vastly overrated because people don’t realize the other technology you needed to get the end results you credit to to one invention alone.”

          2. I heard about “The Bog that Ate the Tank” at Grafenwoehr. Yes, LT, there are places neither G-d nor the Army intended tanks to go… The former NCO expressed his, ah, I shall say lingering contempt for the officer involved. (One vanished tank almost became two vanished tanks and a vanished tank-wrecker before smarter heads intervened.)

  45. I wouldn’t underrate the danger from this woman. Her policy ideas may fall somewhere on the naive-to-outright-insane continuum, but she is a very good political marketeer. Check out her Instagram feed, where she posts about being a new Congressperson and attending “Congress Camp”, about her fashion issues as a candidate, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has a series of posts at some point post about “dating as a Congresswoman.”

    So at lot of people will feel as if they know her personally, even that she is one of their BFFs.

    Some politicians have owed much of their success to effective use of new media: Roosevelt and Hitler with radio, Kennedy with television, Trump with twitter, etc.

  46. For me it keeps coming back to a question I’ve asked here before;

    What effect on the environment does taking enough energy to matter out, via solar or wind generators, have?

    When I ask that in person, I often get blank looks of total incomprehension. Why would it have ANY effect, they want to know?

    Because, damnit, TANSTAAFL. Ok, set aside the effects of mining the materials that go into solar cells and wind turbines. And set aside the effects of having to dispose of / recycle those materials when the solar cells amd turbines break down. And let’s ignore, also, the sheer amount of land that enough solar/wind farms would disrupt.

    The greens are talking about removing enormous quantities of energy from a dynamic system. It HAS to have some effect.

    What? And do we really want to find out the hard way?

      1. I guess I don’t really expect a definitive answer. Not without one heck of a lot of research being done first. But it bugs me that nobody seems to be asking the question, and that so many people I ask it of seem to think that there won’t be a noticeable difference.

        It strikes me as being like the (possible a greenie myth) people who fed their sewage into the sea, because the sea was so big they thought of it as infinite.

        The environmental movement irritates me on so MANY levels. They won’t do the math on their ‘solutions’. They adopt non-answers like battery powered cars (really; how the f*ck does that help?). They act like intermittant oower sources can be the whole of a grid.

        And they junk up real problems with their obsessions. There are real environmental issues we should be addressing. Like the sinking aquifer levels all over the US.

        Aside; Idon’t see why we couldn’t pump treated water into those.

        Instead we are all supposed to be panicing over Global Warming, whuch may not be happening, and almost certainly is not our fault and also beyond our power to change.

        Ok, I’m ranting now. I’ll stop.

        1. They won’t do the math on their ‘solutions’.

          This is where the work of Bjørn Lomborg has been highly illuminating. Stipulating the existence of the problem he has looked closely at a) the efficacy of the proposed solutions and b) the cost of such solutions. In almost every instance he has determined that the Greens’ solutions are equivalent to bailing the Titanic with a tea cup* and strip resources from programs which offer far greater direct benefit** for human lives.

          More intelligent thought in 6’45” than you will find in twenty-four hours of envirobabbe.

          *see: Paris Climate Accords
          **e.g., universal vaccinations

          1. Sigh. Envirobabble, not Envirobabe. Although envirobabes are major transmission vectors of STDs (Socially Transmitted Dumbness.)

        2. No, it is true about people feeding sewage into the sea: saw it all the time in Greece, where the local English-language paper would post warnings about swimming in the ocean for so many feet to either side of the sewage outfall in such-and-such a village. And I’ve had comments on some of the posts I’ve written on being stationed in Greece by other veterans reporting having seen … ummm whole brown sewer trout floating around in the crystal-clear Mediterranean water off the resort beaches on Crete.

          I never liked the beaches on the Athens side of the Attiki peninsula: I liked going to the other side, to Porto Rafti, or Marathon. There wasn’t so much trash thrown up on the beach at the high tide line.

        3. There hasn’t been an environmentalist movement in decades. Instead, we have the greens – antihuman, not pro-environment

    1. Solar? Loss of ground cover. Period. Dot.

      There’s an analysis one could do many years ago, that concludes that meeting US energy needs with solar would require something like the area of Georgia in solar panels. What kind of unused area exists that can be used for that? If you put them in the desert, that hurts the desert ground cover, and goes to dust forms. Which then means you need greater panel area, or a way of cleaning the panels off.

      Windmills are pulling the energy via fluid mechanics, which means in this case that translating local qualities to system results gives lol trustworthy answers. Any claim about global warming can be applied to windmills.

      My preference is to look at the districts of representatives supporting renewable energy for test cases. Look at the land available for solar panels in theory, look at the population, look at the relationship between population and energy needs, figure out how many people need to be killed to make the district self sustaining by renewable energy. Assume those people will come from from those that voted for the renewable energy policy candidate. Press them to put up or shut up.

      1. Stupid thought – but why lose ground cover at all? I’m seeing PV arrays being put up overtop of carparks here in CA – between that and rooftop solar (on large buildings,) how much “ground cover” for natural ground would that offset?

        Not only that, but it gives people something they can park under, which shades their vehicle in summer, which thereby reduces the use of air conditioning (which reduces the use of fuel, especially since most people are driving econoboxen – which have a significant offset to fuel consumption around town with the aircon on – something I’m still trying to get my roommate to understand. She can’t figure out why her 4-cyl Honda gets such crappy mileage with the aircon running in town, but my V8 Chevy pickup doesn’t even notice it running…)

        1. Land area of Georgia the state, or greater, for the US alone. You’d need to have that much acreage of carparks already in place.

    2. “The greens are talking about removing enormous quantities of energy from a dynamic system. It HAS to have some effect.”

      Actually, you aren’t removing anything. The energy is changed between various energy frequencies, but you end up with an equivalent amount of heat energy at the end. A physicist like Stephanie Osborne could describe it better than I can, but that’s why the whole “the amount of matter and energy in the universe remains constant” rule works.

        1. No, actually, it doesn’t. Energy may start out as various higher wavelengths; once something absorbs it, it heats that object. Some of it may re-radiate as heat; if the energy incoming is more than it can re-radiate, it absorbs it until enough energy concentrates enough to raise into that higher energy state we call glowing.

          Unless gravity pulls all the matter and its’ absorbed energy back to another big bang, eventually there will be cold chunks of matter and the heat will be too diffuse to collect.

      1. Ok, I know this is long past time to answer, but you’re missing the point. The energy was doing SOMETHING where they propose to collect it. They mean to move it to another location. They are subtracting it from where it was. That MUST have an effect.

        1. Exactly! It’s like with water basins — you can’t just take water from the Colorado River Basin and shift it to another basin without having an effect on the Colorado. Sure, it all goes to the sea, but where it goes along the way frickin’ matters! It even matters how much gets sucked out from the Upper Colorado Basin.

          The Colorado River Runs Dry
          Dams, irrigation and now climate change have drastically reduced the once-mighty river. Is it a sign of things to come?
          From its source high in the Rocky Mountains, the Colorado River channels water south nearly 1,500 miles, over falls, through deserts and canyons, to the lush wetlands of a vast delta in Mexico and into the Gulf of California.

          That is, it did so for six million years.

          Then, beginning in the 1920s, Western states began divvying up the Colorado’s water, building dams and diverting the flow hundreds of miles, to Los Angeles, San Diego, Phoenix and other fast-growing cities. The river now serves 30 million people in seven U.S. states and Mexico, with 70 percent or more of its water siphoned off to irrigate 3.5 million acres of cropland.

          The damming and diverting of the Colorado, the nation’s seventh-longest river, may be seen by some as a triumph of engineering and by others as a crime against nature, but there are ominous new twists. The river has been running especially low for the past decade, as drought has gripped the Southwest. It still tumbles through the Grand Canyon, much to the delight of rafters and other visitors. And boaters still roar across Nevada and Arizona’s Lake Mead, 110 miles long and formed by the Hoover Dam. But at the lake’s edge they can see lines in the rock walls, distinct as bathtub rings, showing the water level far lower than it once was—some 130 feet lower, as it happens, since 2000. Water resource officials say some of the reservoirs fed by the river will never be full again.


          In 1922, conservationist Aldo Leopold paddled a canoe through the great delta at the mouth of the Colorado River. He wrote about a “wealth of fowl and fish” and “still waters…of a deep emerald hue.” In Leopold’s time, the delta stretched over nearly 3,000 square miles; today, it covers fewer than 250, and the only water flowing through it, except after heavy rains, is the runoff from alfalfa, lettuce and melon fields and pecan orchards.

          The river has become a perfect symbol of what happens when we ask too much of a limited resource: it disappears. In fact, the Colorado no longer regularly reaches the sea.

          Invasive plants, such as salt cedar and cattails, now dominate the delta, a landscape of seemingly endless mud flats where forests used to stand. And in the Gulf of California itself, shellfish, shrimp and waterfowl have declined dramatically as fresh water has dried up.

          1. Don’t know if California legislature still believes this (likely, just not speaking about it) but it has been said “it is a crying shame that all the water that goes into the Columbia actually makes it to the ocean”. That would be all the water from the Snake, Willamette, & McKenzie, Rivers, despite the fact it is a major river highway to the Portland Port. Not to mention the Umpqua, Rogue, etc., the coastal rivers that don’t go through Portland …

  47. I just had this thought…

    Why spend the money to get all this done, when you can let other people spend the money and then reap the rewards for a smaller sum of money?

    Let’s take this idea-currently solar power panels are about $8/watt in terms of power. So, the US government offers to pay $1 billion, after taxes, to the company that can show a COTS solar panel system that can produce power at $4/watt in 2018 dollars wholesale (see, dealing with inflation here!). Or demonstrate a solar panel that can generate power at $6/watt, using 90+% recycled solar panel material. $1 billion in 2018 dollars, after taxes, to the company that can do that. Simple.

    Use all the REST of the money that this crazy girl is proposing to spend to rebuild all the bridges that need to be replaced (see, jobs!) and refund the rest of the money to the taxpayer. Simple!

    But, no real chances for graft there, so there’s the problem.

  48. She’s like kudzu; if you don’t remove it root and leaf when it’s small it just takes over. Who wants two-year-olds running our country anyway?

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