Shabies And the Need To Work Around

I didn’t give credit for the inventions of Shabbies, when I used it (misspelled) in the article, because I honestly didn’t remember who had said it, just that it was a pivotal thing for me.

I remembered the person was on PJ TV and that he was suffering from a cold (a lot of the video involved him putting a towel around his face and inhaling steam) which exasperated him more than usual when dealing with an ubiquitous anti-war demonstration in DC. (Remember those.  Amazing how they stopped when Obama took power and sent our troops abroad like the Easter Bunny dispensing candy.  Or maybe not amazing because the left are Shabies.)

Then I mentioned it to a friend and he said “that was Alonzo Rachel and the old PJ TV”.

And suddenly I remembered him saying “They’re sheep, they’re babies, they’re shabies.”

Friend also shared that Youtube has throttled Zo’s views to such an extent that he’s now gone back to his former occupation of waiting tables.

Look, I didn’t agree with the man on everything, but his show and Trifecta’s were the reason I signed for and paid PJTV a subscription.

It occurs to me that PJTV killed their TV channel at the worst possible time, because now conservative pundits and speakers need a TV channel more than ever.  Maybe if they’d taken some time they’d have found it profitable.  But it’s not my money, and I’m not going to second guess them.

What I’m going to tell you is to go listen to the Zo.  Look, I don’t even know his position on Trump because he dropped off my radar, but again even back when I disagreed with him on tons of things, and still enjoyed his show.

And look at that “dropped off my radar.”  Be aware even if you subscribe to, say, Right Angle, you’re not getting notice when a video goes up.  Be more proactive in looking for them.

And if you have the money and the time (I have neither for the next 2 or 3 years, at least) consider what an alternative to YouTube would look like and implement it.

I do have an idea for an alternative to Amazon and a way to make it profitable until (almost inevitably) Amazon goes full potato, be it five years in the future or more. We MIGHT have the money for that, but we’ve been struggling for the time particularly “friends who program” time.

But we have to make time.  And we have to put the money where our mouths are.  Because otherwise we’ll consent through silence. And that’s not the world we want.

Build under, build over, build around.  Create and subvert and BUILD.  You’re nto alone, and it’s time.

 

 

114 responses to “Shabies And the Need To Work Around

  1. Christopher M Chupik

    Shabies got rabies.

  2. I did love some of the old pjtv stuff, nut I drifted away somewhat when they dropped the more snarky/fun shows like Kruiser. Still watch whatever Bill Whittle and crew put out.

  3. Do wish we had all these already. I am an inpatient man.
    I do think Insty is right. Dropping blogs to go to leftoid controlled social media was not well thought out. I remember the early Twitter days before they were better able to Shadow or less often outright ban.
    Now I only use it to keep in touch with a long time online friend.
    One person.
    I watch a few things on YouTube, and even one that really avoids politics, although it is gun related, has tried the alternatives, but they are still not easy, stable, or well known.

    • “Dropping blogs to go to leftoid controlled social media was not well thought out.” It’s not just the risk (the reality) of censorship…I also believe that Facebook is a terrible platform for political discussion, Twitter is even worse.

      That said, there are still plenty of excellent blogs around, both individual and group.

    • Content producers on the right need to have a contingency plan. Something that isn’t TwitGooFace to hold their content and an independent way to let interested parties know about new content. Those of us who subscribe need to be ready to use our social media accounts to signal boost new content announcements. TwitGooFace might be able to kick a few thousand right wing producers off without suffering much damage, but if they kick the millions of Americans who are willing to post links to their account they’re going to seriously harm their network effects. Especially if those Americans have a fallback on networks like MeWe and Gab.

    • Blogs have a reputation for essays, not quick notes. Most don’t have that much to say.

  4. Build towards the future you want. Unless we do it won’t ever happen.

  5. An alternative to Youtube would look like https://www.bitchute.com/ – it’s already there. Their Community Guidelines read like a sensible, free-speech-first platform:

    Freedom of Expression
    All creators have the same opportunity to express themselves.
    Equal Rights
    Everyone should be treated as equals with the same rights.
    BitChute will treat all members of the community equally.
    We do not grant ourselves special voting power.
    Respect & Decency
    Child abuse will not be tolerated.
    Threatening, inciting or promoting violence will not be tolerated. This includes terrorist material.
    Sexually explicit content will not be tolerated.
    Malicious use of the platform will not be tolerated.
    Responsibility
    You are responsible for your own actions on the platform.
    Creators are responsible for setting the correct sensitivity of their content.
    You have a responsibility to ensure compliance with these Principles at all times.
    Compliant with Law
    You are expected to follow the laws of your domicile pertaining to online conduct, communication and content.
    BitChute will respect applicable laws pertaining to online communications.
    It is your duty to ensure that you respect copyrights, trademarks, and other legal rights, referencing fair use laws appropriately.
    Organizations or individuals that are engaged in terrorist activity are not permitted to use the platform.
    It may be legally necessary for some content to be filtered based on the country of content consumption.

    There are some clauses in there that could be abused, but the longer version of the guidelines makes it pretty clear that they’re aware of the ways people might try to abuse those clauses and won’t stand for it. (E.g., “The following are some examples of what we consider to be malicious use: … Coordinated group attacks with the aim to shame, silence or otherwise shut down other users…”).

    There are other video-hosting alternatives, but BitChute looks like the one that’s most committed to actual free-speech principles.

    • Looks like the block-quoting ate my HTML formatting. I’ll repost that without the blockquote:

      Freedom of Expression
      All creators have the same opportunity to express themselves.
      Equal Rights
      Everyone should be treated as equals with the same rights.
      BitChute will treat all members of the community equally.
      We do not grant ourselves special voting power.
      Respect & Decency
      Child abuse will not be tolerated.
      Threatening, inciting or promoting violence will not be tolerated. This includes terrorist material.
      Sexually explicit content will not be tolerated.
      Malicious use of the platform will not be tolerated.
      Responsibility
      You are responsible for your own actions on the platform.
      Creators are responsible for setting the correct sensitivity of their content.
      You have a responsibility to ensure compliance with these Principles at all times.
      Compliant with Law
      You are expected to follow the laws of your domicile pertaining to online conduct, communication and content.
      BitChute will respect applicable laws pertaining to online communications.
      It is your duty to ensure that you respect copyrights, trademarks, and other legal rights, referencing fair use laws appropriately.
      Organizations or individuals that are engaged in terrorist activity are not permitted to use the platform.
      It may be legally necessary for some content to be filtered based on the country of content consumption.

      • The fundamental problem with alternative platforms is that Google and Apple control 90% of the app market so without their blessing it is effectively impossible to launch a new platform, as Google and Apple can simply refuse to allow it to be made available in their app stores. Given the convenient refusal of both platforms to allow competitors to the oligarchies (Google’s own YouTube, etc., Twitter and its controlled companies and Facebook/Instagram), while creating a new platform in theory sounds good, until one gets past the roadblock that the tech oligarchs have constructed, making those new platforms viable is effectively impossible. Look at how limited Gab’s reach is and they have some money behind them.

        • Gab has its own issues.

        • You can still download and install an app on your Android phone even if that application isn’t in the Google store. The methods are slightly different. And it involves disabling (hopefully temporarily) certain safeguards to prevent bad people from putting apps on your phone without your permission. But it’s possible.

          • Not everyone is savvy or knowledgeable enough to do that. Also, wasn’t forcing people to do all sorts of end runs about what it was providing people what got Microsoft into trouble when they were making it difficult a number of years ago for people to use non-Microsoft browsers and other software.

            • Nah, it’s not that difficult. When someone connects to your website on an Android device, the web site detects the operating system, and includes a note with a link. The note says something along the lines of, “Restriction X prohibits us from putting this app in the Google Store. Click here to download and install it. You’ll probably also need to temporarily disable this safety feature by going to XXXXX in your Settings menu, and turning it off. Don’t forget to turn it back on again when you’re finished.”

              And that’s it.

        • Does anyone remember the mandated break-up of Bell System as a result of an anti-trust lawsuit against AT&T?

          After what happened to Micro-Soft one wonders how long it will be before someone in a position to do them damage decides that they can make political hay taking the stand that Google and Apple have created service monopolies?

        • In addition, with Android, you have to change your security settings to get apps from anywhere other than Google, including Amazon.

    • I’m cynical anymore.

      We live in an age of “your speech is violence and my violence is speech”, where someone decides that the Tea Party are terrorists but Antifa or BLM are not, never mind who sets stuff on fire and who doesn’t. We live in an age where activists calling for a moderation of Islam are on SPLC hate lists, because of course they are. Inciting violence can be expressing disagreement or disapproval for any “marginalized” person. Or inciting violence might be the fact that someone called you a Nazi and now they get to punch you, so you’re the one who “incited” the violence.

      A lawyer might be able to write a policy out that is better than a list of mush that can be subjectively applied (which I think is usually the goal anyway) but it would certainly be hard.

      So who’s definition of terrorism? Who’s list? The US government list or the SPLC list?

      Can an atheist say that Christians are awful? Can a Christian say that Muslims are awful? Can a Muslim say that Jews are awful? Can a Kenyan say that Nigerians are awful? Does everyone have the same right to insult anyone else or are some individuals so delicate that an insult slung is inciting violence while other people can be insulted because it’s true? (Or as Mad Mike tends to point out, they can be insulted because clearly they’re so incredibly superior that it’s impossible to damage them.) Can we admire Pinochet and post helicopter memes?

      • About Pinochet;

        Even if he were guilty of everything he is accused of (doubtful, consideringnwho is accusing him) arresting him in violation of hudreds of years of diplomatic custom was excessive, and ensured that no Right Wing dictator will ever surrender his power for the forseeable future.

        Also, if arresting him for his crimes was justified, targeting a cruise missile on Fidel Castro would have been equally justified. And we all know how the Establishment Left would have reacted to that.

        • That goes for just about anyone. Qaddaffi! I mean… the custom had been for a very long time that the despot was allowed to run off and live comfortably in France and there was a *reason* for that. If the alternatives are hanging on to power or DYING, it’s really hard to get awful people to step down. And half the time they’re super horrible because they either ride that tiger or they die and they darned well know it.

          This is one reason I’m not in favor of any sort of talk of “justice” for Kim in Korea. The goal has to be to improve the lives of the people in North Korea and the best way to do that is either… hold out a carrot in the form of lush parties in Paris for the rest of his life OR create a path to turn the despot into a hero by rewarding him when he moves towards liberalizing his nation and his economy.

          • Or make the choice “if you’re a total violator of human rights, we’re going to be totally cool with whoever kills you and takes your spot.” It’d need to be some sort of official stance, maybe “if we withdraw diplomatic relations with you, we don’t care if you die before you improve enough for us to come back.”

            A mix of the three might work…..

            • No. I mean. Killing him gets what? The guy who kills him takes over as despot because the new regime has to also *hold* power.

              So there’s no “out”. None. And so we get to keep him. Or the next guy who rides that tiger and tries not to get eaten.

              Etc., and on and on… and isn’t that a compassionate thing to advocate?

              • It doesn’t improve things for the country, it just makes it less tempting to stay where he knows what is going on and is in control.

                Basically makes the eternal risk of “if I don’t have power, they’ll kill me” balance with “if I do have power, they’ll kill me.”

                It’s basically a patch on the current bad habit of letting the guy retire for five years and THEN executing him.

                • I am sorry, but what part of Kim is paranoid for a REASON. People ARE trying to KILL him and take his place don’t you understand?

                  You seem to think that Rulers like Kim, Kaddafi, the Saudi King, Putin, Drug Kings, etc., fear attack from INTERNAL people then from EXTERNAL. They are ruthless because to not be is to be DEAD. It is almost impossible to reform from such a position because as soon as you seem weak everyone tries to kill you. It is ALSO very hard to just LEAVE and RETIRE because NOBODY believes you and as long as you are alive you are a danger to your successor.

                  That is why getting anyone to leave such a position is so hard, you have to convince them that they will live. .

                  • I’m sorry, what part of “third world dictators think the US has dang near magical powers but is too weak to use them” do you not understand?

                  • Going over what I wrote again, I see that I did not say “hey, let’s just kill anybody we think is nasty” or “golly, an assassination will fix everything” or anything similar.

                    I pointed out that an additional stick, to counter-balance the now weaker carrot of “leave in peace and you get to retire”, would be to make it so if someone is formally recognized as a Really Bad Guy they have the fear of being assassinated.

                    SPECIFICALLY and EXPLICITLY in response to the problem that they’re risking being dragged back and executed if they try the “retire” route.

                    If loosening up did not increase the risk of internal threats to their lives, then there wouldn’t be a reward in increasing the risk of death from external sources when they crack down, because they wouldn’t feel the need to crack down to stay in power.

                    *********

                    I really, really hate when people attempt to read my mind and lecture me about it, and then start channeling an idiot that isn’t even making a similar argument to what I wrote.

                    • Still seems rather wishy-washy to me. Maybe you don’t mean to say/imply that the solution to killing someone who’s voluntarily left power isn’t to promise they’ll live but to threaten to kill them even harder if they stay in power, but it sure sounds like it. And that’s just more “no win” solution added to additional “no win” solution.

                      If I were given a choice between “die now for sure” and “die later for sure”, I’d probably take my chances on my security teams and decoys.

                    • If I were given a choice between “die now for sure” and “die later for sure”, I’d probably take my chances on my security teams and decoys.

                      As opposed to “die later for sure” vs “there’s no additional cost to cracking down harder because it just makes me safer.”

          • > Kim

            There will be 25-odd million formerly-North-Koreans who will be looking for “justice.” I don’t think the Fed needs to get involved in any of that.

            • The concern, though, is something that we see nowadays. Dictator decides it’s now too much trouble to keep running the country with all the external pressure and the internal agitators. So he signs an agreement that allows a new government to take power while he leaves for France (or some other place that’ll let him stay in return for leaving office). Five years pass, the new government (which is probably quite corrupt) is looking to consolidate power and build up support which has started flagging (since the “Yeah we’re free!” moment is over). So they tear up the old agreement that allowed the dictator to live out his life in peace, and put in an extradition request with his current host country.

              And his current host country promptly ships him home, where he stands trial and is executed.

              It seems to be the way that things work now. And as a result, dictators have to be a lot more leery about wanting to give up power and go into voluntary exile.

              • Exactly. And it doesn’t end. Ever.

                Consider the desired end goal and how to reach it and then do *that*.

                The best thing would be a liberalizing of the society and economy, relief for the people, holding the bastard up as the source of the reforms and hero of the children, and eventually introducing a parliament to run the country while he takes on a symbolic figurehead role.

                But what people seem to want is “justice” no matter the cost in human horror and misery. Because… reasons? Because he’s got a face and the human horror and misery are faceless?

                • Yeah. Even if the country itself refuses to go after the ex-dictator, he’ll still get charged. Either another country will press charges (because one or more of that country’s citizens were hurt or killed while the dictator was in power) and demand extradition, or the ICC will stick its nose into it. And then sanctions will be threatened if the country doesn’t comply.

                  • I’m not sure who gave the ICC jurisdiction over anything. It’s extremely difficult to find a place where someone’s jurisdiction doesn’t apply to do one’s crimes within. I mean, I sometimes feel like just announcing myself the international judge of good and evil, because why not?

      • after going through some of the “recently loaded” thumbs, Pinochet love and Helo scare memes are numerous, and mild.
        I saw a few that are “Adolf was really a good guy” ones. YouTube’s outage was due to a Moon video.
        Criptid “proof”
        etc
        etc

      • You’ll also have to replace ALL the layers of the tech onion. As gab.ai found out when the hosting service it was using so it wouldn’t have to buy servers (which are expensive to maintain), Microsoft Azure, just up and said we don’t care what your free speech policy is, our policy is that you can’t have this kind of free speech.

        What are you going to do when the cable company you buy your internet access through says you can’t use our service to get to that site?

        How about the firewall and anti-virus companies putting you on the blacklist? Note that Sarah’s had that happen a few times already, meaning that your browser won’t navigate there.

        And how are you going to pay for it when none of the banks or online payment processors will take payments to your site?

        How many layers will you have to replace at once, any of which make your site unusable?

    • peer-to-peer is a fairly horrible way to handle video service hosting. I paid for my hard drive space, I expect to be able to use it.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      I’ve had friends lose Youtube playlists — of videos that Youtube saw fit to host — but apparently did not see fit to allow people to collect in a playlist.

      • I seldom visit YouTube, but when I see anything of interest, I snarf it down to local storage.

        I just bought another 4Tb drive for less than what I paid for my first box of 1.44Mb 3-1/2″ floppy disks, not even counting the difference between 1990 and 2018 dollars.

        • Not too long ago I found the receipt for one of our first flash drives, something like $80 for 5 MB.

          • 1982 Byte Magazine. The back cover was an ad boasting that for only $5999 you could have the latest in storage tech: a 5 megabyte Winchester hard drive.

            • I remember the first HUGE SIMM price drop. I paid $200 for 16mb, when a month and a half before, a friend paid $1100 (theirs was ‘Mac RAM;, sure, but it was identical sticks.)

              • When my folks visited, they gave Princess the camera that has what I’m pretty sure is the first SD card we bought, for a great price, something like under 30 bucks for 250mb.

                • we bought a Sony Mavica floppy disc camera because the pictures it took were the same resolution as any other digital camera we could afford and a box of floppies was cheaper than 10 mb of any of the flash media the other cameras used. Meanwhile, I bought 128 GB of very high end SD card for my BMPCC two weeks ago.

                  • And now I grumble about paying more than $15 for 32g micro SD for the kid’s stuff, and huff at paying over twenty for the adults’ phones.

                • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                  In the early 1970s, I saw my first electronic hand-held calculator.

                  It was an engineering calculator for only $500.

                  Oh, no I didn’t purchase it. 👿

                  • and now there are color screen graphing scientific/engineering calculators with a USB port and flash storage for $50.

                    • Heck. I paid $80 for a Slide Rule, Fall ’74, because I couldn’t afford $400+ for a calculator. Two years latter mom & dad got me a calculator for ’76 Christmas, for $80.

  6. Unfortunately, the problem with trying to supplant YouTube right now is that Alphabet (Google’s owning company) has been running the video streaming service at a loss. There are sites that could potentially compete with YouTube. But none of them are able to overcome the “run it at a loss to block out competitors” issue. And that allows YouTube to get enough eyeballs that it is, effectively, *the* place to go. And it’ll likely stay that way until enough people get frustrated with it to switch.

    Though it appears that YouTube is going to start trying to monetize streaming their own stuff with the new YouTube TV “service”.

    The other problem with trying to supplant YouTube is that the competition for the site is effectively fragmented. If five different people decide that they’re tired of YouTube and want to stream from somewhere else, it’s quite possible that they’ll all choose different sites from which to do so. So the competition remains divided, and it’s more difficult for any one site to gain the critical mass needed to pose an actual threat to YouTube’s dominance.

  7. Had totally forgotten about ‘Zo — used to watch his vids now and then, but Youtube seems to have unsubbed me. (Well, that can be fixed.) Oy, me ears, who did the sound on this??

    My real question is… where the heck is Allen West? his newsfeed died in March and the site was down for months (tho now showing “under construction”).

  8. If anyone’s interested, Alfonzo Rachel has a part in “Gosnell: The Trial of America’s Biggest Serial Killer,” which was released last week.

  9. Shabies … hmm. If they are sheep and babies, then they’re lambs. Yum.

    • I’d suggest mint jelly, but considering the seemingly afflicted and affliction, there is apt to be a non-insignificant risk of some sort of prion disease.

      • Great minds run in the same gutter! I was just thinking that very thing!

      • mint jelly? no, curry… mmmm cultural appropriation stew.

      • brings to mind an old commercial I remember from MTV (or Comedy Central).
        a little girl just LOVED lambs
        Mom and dad take tyke out to farm and get a nice little (actually rather good sized) lamb.
        She pets it in the back window as they leave professing her love of the lambs
        Cue parents looking on and saying just how much she loves lamb.
        Little girl, with fork and knife in hands, and green jelly smeared on face yells in satanic voice “More Mint Jelly!”
        iirc it was, mahap, part of Headbangers Ball.

  10. My biggest concern with replacing Amazon is hardware.

    It probably isn’t terribly difficult to create a site that will allow you to purchase ebooks – Baen, for one, does a decent job of it – and I can see that evolving to dead-tree books as well, at least for those willing to eat the cost of postage. But if you don’t trust Amazon to keep “problematic” books in their online store, do you really trust them to keep them on your Kindle? They’ve already demonstrated that they’ll reach out and remove books from people’s devices. So you not only need the programming to run the store, but you need an app people can install on their phones and tablets to read your books on.

  11. I always liked Alonzo Rachel. And sure, I didn’t always agree with him, but I did more often than not, and when I didn’t I still liked to hear his opinion. How dull would it be if everyone agreed all the time?

    And I did always like blogs, even when I got sucked into social media. The form allows for conversations… you know… actually exchanging ideas and stuff.

  12. This is all good advice, but don’t hold your breath. I have been watching the Cpnservative Right whine about media bias since the 1970’s, and how long has it taken them to START buying newspapers and tv stations?

  13. I was watching a couple of the “I’m liberal but anti-SJW and anti-feminist because they are crazy authoritarians and always give me entertaining things to put on my channel” channels. And they *are* entertaining. And they do sling insults like no one’s business. (They are also certainly not conservative in any sense.)

    So these channels are sort of huge. Interestingly the people running them seem to be “I’m about entertaining. This is about entertaining.” And I had to laugh because the one thing… they were answering questions from SJW channels and one of the questions was something like… will you admit that using these terms are slurs and hurtful… and the answers were sort of like (I did watch more than one “response” video)… “of course they’re slurs because they’re insults and they’re meant to be insults” and “and also, they’re really funny.”

    (“Shabies” is meant to be an insult. No doubt someone is having kittens right at this very moment.)

    But what was also very evident (and even stated outright) is that there’s no objectivity about what sort of thing is meant to be a thrown insult and what sort of thing is actually slander. Because the question-askers, the SJW’s, saw no difference between calling someone a racist or rapist or Nazi and someone else calling them a snowflake or twatwaffle. Using “SJW” as a slur hurt their feels, but because they were too lofty to “call names” they could label people rape apologists or racists and no one was ever supposed to get mad.

    I forgot what I had intended my point to be… um…

    1) A channel (no mattter the platform) has to prioritize entertainment.
    2) Don’t apologize for colorful language.
    3) No one is exempt from being insulted and anyone who tries to list people who need to be exempted from insult is an authoritarian and needs to be insulted twice.
    4) Not calling names while dishing out copious slander doesn’t not make you a better person than those who use terms like “twatwaffle” but it probably makes you an SJW.

  14. Hard to compete with Amazon. Not until there are significant lists of items they won’t sell.

    Example: As long as eBay allowed firearm auctions, nobody else could get traction. The instant eBay dumped firearms, outfits like GunBroker stepped in and started making money. Amazon is selling just about anything that does not involve paperwork (e.g. firearms or cars).

    YouTube is another story. Between bans of creators and demonetizing, there are a significant number of folks ready to throw them over. Google is Evil…and also Stupid. And Ripe For The Picking, if you can figure out a good business model.

    • Look at Ma Bell for a historical reference. For decades, they was pretty much it for telecommunications services- then came the breakup and competition.

      • I found it intersting that the reason for the end of Ma Bell’s loss of state-approved monopoly was so little mentioned that it was more than a decade before I read it.

        While phone lines were necessary for phine service, it was desirable for there to be only one set cluttering up the landscape. Once microwave tightbeam transmission of long distance came on the scene, the justification for the monopoly no longer existed and the monopoly was terminated.

        Now, maybe that was talked about at the time, but I missed it. I certainly didn’t miss a lot of off-the-point blovation, though.

        • Ma Bell was broken up in the stupidest way possible. Make one monopoly a bunch of little monopolies? To what end? The breakup of the communication monopoly was via long-distance bundlers and the rise of digital communications. The Federal break-up of ATT was theatre and not much more .

      • But it took government to do the breakup.

    • I plan to go after wattpad first, and serialized fiction. Then be in a place for selling whole ebooks, should the platform fail.

  15. A lot of the folks in my You Tube watching clique are going over to “Full30” .
    Mostly gun related stuff, but I’m betting that they’d welcome more customers.

  16. I miss PJTV too, but many of their contributors are still available in one form or another. Bill Whittle was always a favorite as he is as close to being my brother from another mother politically as anyone I’ve ever met. In addition to being very similar politically and philosophically, we both were disappointed to find that we did not meet the physical requirements to become fighter pilots and we both buried our WWII veteran fathers within a span of a few days.

    • I used to think that about Bill, but then he goes on one of his rants about The Matrix, and I wonder why he’s still living in CA and trying to work in the industry,,,,

  17. Totally off topic, but yesterday afternoon our local non-profit radio station started playing an “X-!” show: “The Green Hills Of Earth”.

  18. The Left has an endless need for attractive, sympathy-compelling faces to hide behind and use as sock puppets … because the actual faces of the Left are repellent.

    Stop the Left Speaking Crazy FOR the voiceless
    By Sarah Hoyt
    Why does the left think that using their children to make political points makes those points more valid, in any way shape or form?

    Surely you remember the days after the 2016 election, when the left went crazy and many women with small children (or perhaps with no small children, who knows?) posted that their eight-year-olds (usually eight-year-olds olds) were “terrified” or scared or not sleeping, or stressed, or whatever by Trump’s election. It was so common that one had to laugh or cry (or both) at it.

    Well, they never really stopped.

    And it makes no sense whatsoever.

    First of all the left is not, in general, fond of children. Oh, sure, they talk about the children a lot. “It’s for the children” has been used for gun control, welfare and all the pet programs of the left. But in reality children are far less prevalent on the left than on the right. And most of the left seems to be convinced we are overpopulated and favors lunacy like voluntary human extinction and taxes on families with “too many children.” …

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      Gotta disagree. CPS is not a great tool for intervening in situations where children are in danger.

      Bringing it in on situations of high political profile is likely to have results depending on the personal political biases of the caseworkers. Weighing the damage likely to be done by CPS intervention, I’d guess that this sort of grandstanding isn’t generally harmful enough to bring them in. Yeah, maybe if the behavior was intense and prolonged over years. CPS makes sense for cases where kids are being burned, or something. Politics should stay out of referrals.

      For the most part, the correct intervention to the political stuff is to point and laugh. Perhaps with a calm explanation of why one would have to be bug nuts to weigh the political opinions of kids heavily, or how political groups that rely on children tend towards being evil, and crazy enough that adults see through too much of their propaganda.

      OTH, this may be the time to refloat my idea of charging with criminal negligence the parents of boys killed, while under the influence, by cops.

      On the gripping hand, I cannot recall if I have articulated another specific policy regarding reprisal against children being used for political ends. But that usage involved what I think really should be considered a capital felony. Whether I argued for it or not, I do not think I persuaded very many here to support it.

      • Oh, please. Mostly I was putting the cat among the pigeons.
        Also, attempting to stop the left annoying everyone with the opinions of their eight year olds. Though THAT might be hopeless.

        • When tales of a woke 8-year-old surfaces on Twitter I rather enjoy it because it is certain to cause multiple parody tweets from clever people in my timeline.

        • “attempting to stop the left annoying everyone with the opinions of their eight year olds.”
          At the current intellectual level being demonstrated by the Left, their 8-year-olds may be the smartest in the room.

          Also, indoctrination doesn’t always work, if you have a source of counter-programming available.
          https://www.thecollegefix.com/the-conservative-leader-at-stanford-is-susan-rices-son/

          “JENNIFER KABBANY – FIX EDITOR •MAY 29, 2018

          John David Rice-Cameron can trace his conservative roots to his middle school years. Back then, his father would often have talk radio on during rides home from school or tennis practice.

          “Sometimes my dad would listen to Rush Limbaugh and he would kind of argue with him,” recalls Rice-Cameron, 20, a sophomore at Stanford University. “I just found myself agreeing with basically everything Rush Limbaugh was saying.”

          Rice-Cameron started listening to talk radio on his own. That’s when he discovered Mark Levin, saying the firebrand pundit became his “ultimate political hero.”

          “He’d talk about John Locke, and so I’d go and read some John Locke. He’d talk about John Smith, so I’d go and read John Smith. He’d talk about the Federalist Papers, and so I read those,” Rice-Cameron said. “I discovered the intellectual roots of liberty.”

          Fast-forward to today, Rice-Cameron … is taking his passion for liberty and advancing it at Stanford University, his mother’s alma mater, as president of the College Republicans.”

      • “CPS is not a great tool for intervening in situations where children are in danger.”
        Another case of well-meaning creation of an agency that promptly went out of control, because, authority and power divorced from reason and accountability.
        I recognize Sarah’s use of cat among the pigeons” because sometimes you need to set a cat among the pigeons.
        Sadly, since government agencies are by definition monopolies, we have no “tool” other than CPS; however, I have had several friends embroiled in what can only be described as harassment encounters with the CPS. In other situations, where it was clear to any sentient adult that the children really were in danger, they were more interested in the feelz of the parents.
        Not to say the agents don’t occasionally get it right, but I personally wouldn’t report anyone without real indications of actual abuse (which is not necessarily coterminous with what an SJW Snowflake would see as bad).

        However, on the weaponization of the agency by politics, the Left is (as usual) already on the case.

        https://www.thecollegefix.com/school-district-sent-child-services-after-mother-when-she-reported-restroom-assault-by-gender-fluid-student/

        • A sizable portion of HSLDA’s work comes from stuff like “the school sent CPS after a family because the family was going to make noise about an embarrassing incident.”

          Usually the school failing to protect children as required by law.

    • They use children as human shields to deflect criticism of their argument. Same was they use “survivors ” like David Hogg and Uptalk Ford. How dare you confront them?

      I was having a carefully civil debate about abortion with an acquaintance on FB. After I had gently pushed her into a corner about women not accepting responsibility for tre choices they make she blurted our: “I was raped!”.

      I was angered by her cheap plot to manipulate me emotionally, as if I was a horrible person for not allowing my empathy to trump logic. I said something to the effect that rape had nothing to do with my point.

      She blocked me, but even funnier, she sent my WIFE an email saying “I’m sorry we cant be friends anymore because of your husband”. The wife laughed hysterically, as this was an obvious attempt to punish me for disagreeing with this creature. But also because they barely knew each other.

      The Left cheats.

    • RE: Surely you remember the days after the 2016 election, when the left went crazy and many women with small children (or perhaps with no small children, who knows?) posted that their eight-year-olds (usually eight-year-olds olds) were “terrified” or scared or not sleeping, or stressed, or whatever by Trump’s election.

      I recall a period when eight year olds were being taught that the commies were going to drop the bomb any day now and we had fall-out shelters in many schools. (A real, if not quiet so present possibility as was presented.) 

      I don’t recall there being a lot of hand-wringing articles that insisted that we stop dealing with the reality of a nuclear world because it scared children.  At that time children were thought of as — children.  Children were to be nurtured, cared for, and prepared to take their place in the adult world.  Their opinions were not considered fully informed and therefore not given the kind of weight we now are asked to grant them.

      Why are these children fearful, if there really is such fearful children?  Who has flaming the fan of fear so that these children that they are so terrified?  Panicking adults, who are failing to do their duty by their children and are not much more than children themselves. Or, worse, manipulative adults who are using the emotions of children to get their way.