Healing from Toxic Whiteness- Alan Miller

 

Healing from Toxic Whiteness- Alan Miller

 

This is the title of an online course from the good people at EveryDay Feminism. Here’s a few selections from the description. Feel free to mock (or weep) as the mood strikes you:

So with Trump’s policies starting to roll out, you know you want to be fighting alongside people of color. But you also know that you may feel frozen in place by the feelings of shock, confusion, denial, and guilt that many white people have been dealing with since the election.

So it’s a course for recovering white people?

With our unique Compassionate Activism approach, you can learn how to hold that pain of racism in a way that’s healing and comes from a place of love and justice.

You keep using those words. I no think you know what those words mean.

Once you notice just how insidious and ingrained racism really is – and how often you find yourself unintentionally upholding it – it can feel like your whole worldview is being shaken.

Ah, now we have the Original Sin narrative but just for honkies.

While white people are not inherently or inevitably racist, they are all raised in societies built on systemic racism.

My, my someone picked a broad brush to paint with today.

The desire to not be racist is not enough, by itself, to stop someone from being racist.

Do you admit that you are powerless over your addiction to humming the song “Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting” every time the Asian guy at work enters the room?

Give your pain the gentle, loving care and attention it deserves, while holding the space for others to do the same

I have been meaning to spend more time with my pain.

Help other white people transform their ignorance and defensiveness into greater consciousness and motivation to act in that solidarity with people of color

I introduced a friend to Earth, Wind, and Fire once, does that count?

“I joined Healing from Toxic Whiteness because I wanted to act against racial injustice, but felt frustrated because that felt so theoretical to me. This program has opened my eyes to the racism around me and in me, and has allowed me to let go of my sense of guilt, entitlement, and all that goes along with “toxic whiteness.” I can now be closer to others, including people of color, because I am being my real self, and that has been such a gift.” – Aiyana

The testimonials are comedy gold.

About the Author (i.e., shameless plug):

Alan is an aspiring author who blogs semi-regularly at https://millerstales.wordpress.com/

402 responses to “Healing from Toxic Whiteness- Alan Miller

  1. The word “insipid” springs to mind unbidden.

  2. What the hell is toxic whiteness? Are they talking about the cosmetic that was actually toxic? Because if toxic whiteness, per the ‘race’ exists, then so must ‘toxic blackness’ or ‘toxic brownness’ ad nauseum.

    The inability to face reality never ceases to bemuse me.

    • No, see you can’t have toxic blackness or toxic brownness because of the Noble Savage and reasons. Only whites have the full range of emotion and agency that allow them to be held responsible for their racism.

      • Terry Sanders

        That’s- -that’s RACIST!!

      • Ah, I see. So only whites are self-aware. Now it makes sense! Well, for certain values of “sense.”

      • The only truly toxic white guys I know are members of the US special forces and Marine/Army infantrymen who are of the Caucasian persuasion. They are toxic only to those who oppose the US……

      • Darned if Jeff didn’t get it right on the first try.

        • Thinking like a Progressive is easy. First you think like a conservative and then you remove all logic and decency.

          • High fives Jeff. As good as it gets for the win. You forgot to remove sense of personal responsibility too, though

            • You also have to dial up the smugness and self-regard to eleven … and the self-awareness down to zero.

              For example:

              Women’s March Protest Causes ‘Burden on Parents’
              Some D.C.-area public schools close after 300 female teachers request off for ‘Day Without A Woman’ protest
              [SNIP]
              Alvin L. Crawley, the superintendent of Alexandria City Public Schools … said all public schools in the district will be closed for students, and Wednesday will be a teacher work day for staff. The day will be treated as a snow day that students do not have to make up because of the lack of weather closings and enough room on the calendar.

              [SNIP]

              The new protest is encouraging all women, and men who self-identify as women, to spend Wednesday blocking roads, “calling out misogynistic politicians,” and shirking from domestic duties in solidarity against Trump.

              “The idea is to mobilize women, including trans women, and all who support them in an international day of struggle—a day of striking, marching, blocking roads, bridges, and squares, abstaining from domestic, care and sex work, boycotting, calling out misogynistic politicians and companies, striking in educational institutions,” the organizers said when announcing the protest.

              The original Women’s March was criticized for not being inclusive to trans women. Transgender activists said feminists donned in pink cat hats created a “dangerous space” with an “oppressive message” that “having a vagina is essential to womanhood.”
              [END EXCERPT]

              Does this make it a day off with pay and not actually a strike? Are there rules limiting the ability of public employees to strike?

              Silly, I know; rules do not apply to the enlightened, not when they’re protesting greater injustices.

              • Striking is illegal, but I’ve noticed that historically large districts in big cities have gotten away with it. As a teacher myself, I don’t know how they justify taking a day of education away from the children. Right now I’m under quarantine and I’m particularly anxious about my students who have been out sick (probably the ones who gave me this). Luckily we didn’t have many snow days….

                And that’s how a woman teacher thinks. Then again, my district doesn’t have MLK Day off because we think Dr. King would rather have had students in school. 😁

                • Silly soul , the purpose of the school is to employ the teachers not teach the students. That is why they have vapors over vouchers taking resources from the school — the resources are not something to be spent on the child, but enjoyed by the school employees.

                  • Well, we must be fools, then. Especially after four years of pay freeze and now we’re slated for state takeover if we don’t cut our budget. The superintendent who squandered our equity is three years gone and cozily employed, but we teachers live here and many have children here. Grrr!

              • yeah i think enough people got the message from ‘day without an immigrant’ to not bother with this one…

                • I’m bothered by it! I had to go back up stairs and CHANGE MY SHIRT– they added “wearing red in support” to the list, and I happened to have grabbed a red shirt.

                  • Proof that there are no geeks in the upper reaches of this protest movement is obvious in the fact that geeks would never protest authority by red shirting themselves!

                    Marxists love to don red shirts, of course.

                  • I’m wearing BLACK.

                  • Ack! I didn’t know that and I have on red socks. I like red. *grump*

                  • I just grabbed a random sweatshirt this morning. It’s rather Christmassy. Green with red accents.

                  • I wore a red shirt specifically for the snark value. I’m a very grumpy, old, opinionated, nearly bald guy, and I’ve fairly certain that me wearing a red shirt is a poke in the eye to anybody of the SJW persuasion.

                  • That’s hilarious. I remember someone wearing a puzzle piece for LGBT rights and thinking it was Autism Awareness month again. Is there a chart to keep track of colors and symbols, like the ones for freighter smokestacks?

              • The original Women’s March was criticized for not being inclusive to trans women. Transgender activists said feminists donned in pink cat hats created a “dangerous space” with an “oppressive message” that “having a vagina is essential to womanhood.”

                I knew this was going to happen eventually.

            • I kind of count that under both logic and decency.

    • Toxicosis Ridiculosis.

    • Are they talking about the cosmetic that was actually toxic?

      My first reaction was that such was the vogue in Elizabethan England, but no longer.

      But I realized I was exercising Modern Make-up Privileged in the face of poor little tortured bunny rabbits! Think of the exploited women!! The Cosmetic Industrial Complex is a capitalist tool!!! it is sexist!!!! It pushes the use of who knows how many potentially toxic chemicals!!!!! The sale of make-up is based on making women feel insecure and inadequate in themselves!!!!!! How can we continue to tolerate it!?!?!

      • Actually, there are toxic skin whiteners still sold in a lot of places. Not the U.S. so much, but a lot of east Asian countries and parts of India.

      • As someone who just dropped over $130 at Sephora this weekend the Cosmetic Industrial Complex clearly puts crack in their products to cause addiction, especially Anastasia Lipgloss which it appears I am well on my way to owning the entire line.

        However, as an addict, I demand you legalize and subsidize my additions or you are Nazis. If every Hun and Hoyden provides just one $5 gift card/month I won’t have to demand Congress act.

        • That’s terrorism!

        • Aw, c’mon, Herb. If you can build your own foundry, surely you can DIY your own lipstick… [googles] Looks like the Maker crowd are onto that already.

          • They are but when I’m going girly I tend to be very consumer 🙂

            Also, the wife nixed the foundry until we live somewhere we own…doesn’t want me burning down the landlord’s house. I’ve been concentrating more on getting setup for wood working. I spent last weekend building a new bench but chickened out on ripping boards to glue up a top…still not that good with a circular saw.

            • Feather Blade

              doesn’t want me burning down the landlord’s house.

              Tch. Spoilsport.

              ^_^

              • Yeah, but hey, I still get to play with power tools (and was amazed at how well my nails survived using them…definitely going back to this new salon we tried).

            • Consider arranging the benchtop to mount the circular saw up from the bottom, using wingnuts or clamps. Then, with some creative clamping for guide boards, you have a table saw.

              Also, if you let the top overhang the front two or three inches, you can use the front edge of the bench with C-clamps to hold workpieces for cutting or gluing.

              As far as consumer… think “artisanal.”

              • I have seen arrangements like that to make a poor man’s table saw and have considered it. I did leave 3″ all the way around except at the legs just for such clamping although I’ll build up one spot for a woodworker’s vice. I did make the top thick enough to drill dog holes as well.

        • Check out these guys – Jacqui loves them and they seem to be a good bunch (donated a whole palette to our gaming con’s charity auction when we asked out of the blue)

          http://www.geekchiccosmetics.com/

          • Great, like I don’t have enough eye shadow already but Please Stand By and Moon Prism Power need to find their way into my makeup case by SJW if not Frolicon. The Gossamer Ethereal Illuminators look interesting but I’m really rocking on a Nyx Illuminator palette lately (Strobe of Genius which I picked up with Sweet Cheeks if anyone cares).

            Thanks for the pointer.

      • *Very carefully sets coffee away from me before indulging in fit of giggles*

    • I think it’s the white lead used by the Romans to lighten skin…

    • Its Toxic Witheness because us Northern Europeans are so relentlessly competent that everybody else in the world is all mad at us. Particularly Scots. Everybody hates us for inventing the entire modern world.

      Dear Everyone, we are sorry for being so awesome. We’ll try to keep it down to a dull roar.

    • It means those that use the term are racist.

    • “What the hell is toxic whiteness?”

      Shadowdancer… I wanted so badly to joke that toxic whiteness is something you can never know, not being white…

      But darned if I can actually joke. At this point it’s not at all funny. But…

      “Toxic Whiteness is the way that I, with my whiteness, make this all about me.”

    • Patrick Chester

      It’s a way for progs to be racist while pretending they aren’t.

  3. I’m holding out for a class called “Evicting the Honky Within”, thanks.

    As for a broad brush, I learned many years ago that activists are very particular about their own identities. The woman who carefully defined “Latino”, “Hispano”, and “Chicano” called all English speakers “anglosajones” (Anglo-Saxons) because she didn’t have the broadness of heart or mind to learn that Polish and Albanian immigrants aren’t from England and had troubles of their own.

    • Eh. Motes and eyes.
      And aye, I will hold on for that class too, though the crazy politics of race means I’m Latina according to our state department. Also, if I do the DNA test, I’ll probably test as other things. Portuguese sailors went abroad, met fascinating women and brought them back as souvenirs.
      Weirdly this question doesn’t not consume me. I’m far more interested in who I am and what I can do than in the shades of color of my ancestors or who did wrong to whom.
      Frankly, the alternative sounds EXHAUSTING. How do you even find time to LIVE while keeping mental score for people who died centuries ago?

      • The answer to your question is that they don’t, which is part of the problem.

      • We should develop a device that analyzes your genetic make-up and cross references it against your combined personal and racial history and then assigns you a score based on how oppressed and or privileged you are in totality. Then you get a windbreaker with your privilege power ranking printed on your back. Once a year you’re required to wear your jacket and give 20% of your earnings to someone with a greater victim ranking.

        • Wait, I thought that’s already what more or less happens on April 15.

        • You’d need regular updates, though, as new categories of oppression are discovered. Indeed under the system you propose I think there would be a major industry of finding new ways to claim oppressed status. Ideally some of them would be ones where all you had to do was say that you felt oppressed because of X, and no one could deny that you were X, because identity-as-X was 100% subjective.

          No, wait, don’t we have that already?

          • But in my version we get windbreakers.

          • I don’t know. The left consistently denies I’m Latina, contra the state department which even lists my ethic subgroup — Gallician covers a portion of spain and a portion of the North of portugal — by name. It seems the minute you become conservative, no matter how you self-identify, you’re white and male.

            • If they can declare that Thomas Sowell is white, sweetheart, you’re out luck. Declaring you male MAY be a bigger jump, but you already admit to thinking more like us neanderthals guys than you do most women, so they do have a basis…

              • Thinking like a male is far more liberating, I gather. It is becoming increasingly clear that thinking like a female is highly restrictive and should only be performed by those specifically trained in the art; all others should just think as they’re told and avoid drawing attention to themselves except when shouting feminist slogans and demanding the right to bare chests.

                https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p370x247/17098486_10154561169297572_3243984220782677026_n.jpg?oh=2de9a4cd5c1331976bda182e94d0ef70&oe=5973AC17
                Emma Watson defends her cleavage-baring photo

                • Sigh. You never know if an image will post until it’s too late.


                  WP Delenda Est.

                  • And very fine cleavage it it too. ~:D

                  • Michael Houst

                    Seen more on the beaches in California and Europe. I swear women and breasts are like guys and our favorite treasure; always trying to one-up each other. Okay, the dart board on my back is now open…

                  • Well, that is certainly very white.

                  • She looks like she’s discovered heroin, or else a seriously abusive boyfriend…

                  • I don’t know which is uglier… the skirt, the knitted thing, or the hair.

                    [contemplates] The hair. She could have picked the clothes from a dumpster somewhere, but she probably had to pay someone to do that to her head.

                    • They look fine to me as individual pieces. But the overall effect is “maybe that would have been a nice outfit with the right top…?”

                    • Yep. Put a nice soft pink or grey top (silk, not the shiny kind, maybe) on, and that’s a gorgeous outfit. It’s the “I have breasts, look!” that’s ridiculous.

                    • Oh, yes, that would look nice!

                      …As it is I’m reminded of times I got partway dressed or undressed, stopped to do something else, and dragged a blanket around my shoulders because I got chilly.

                    • Yes. And some of us, exam time, would try to go to school like that. Which is why bedroom door had a sign taped on “Put GORRAM clothes on.”

                    • Looking at the hair … contemplating the androgynous look fashionable in certain cultural backwaters … could it be the titshow is simply the only way to assert her femaleness? After all, without her shoving those in your face could you be confident you weren’t talking to a boy?

                    • Maybe it is a conditioning thing: “Not so quick to raise our hand now, are we Hermione?”

                • Sigh. So distracted by effort to find the photo illustration that would work, I forgot the confused argument in defense:

                  “Emma Watson says there’s nothing wrong with showing a bit of boob.

                  “The “Harry Potter” star fired back over the weekend at critics who have accused her of betraying her feminist values by revealing her cleavage in a recent Vanity Fair photo shoot.

                  ” ‘I really don’t know what my t- -s have to do with it. It’s very confusing,’ the 26-year-old British actress and activist told Reuters while promoting her new flick, Disney’s live-action ‘Beauty and the Beast.’ “

                  • Feather Blade

                    Hmm… has her acting career not been going as well as she’d hoped, then?

                  • I’ll agree with her. She is confused. Given that some feminists think women baring their chests contributes to Objectifying Women and Subjecting them to the Male Gaze and others are convinced that Revealing All is Empowering, she has every reason to be.

                    Someday, she may look back and consider that her fame and fortune may owe more to J.K. Rowling than to her own wit, talent, and beauty. I’ve heard that the sweet fizz of flattery can leave you with a terrible hangover.

              • This is one of those instances where I will agree with them– whatever the heck they’re using “black” to mean, if Dr. Sowell isn’t invited I’m delighted to take him!

                *pokes around* Heh, didn’t know he’s a Marine…..

            • In a weird reuse/reinvention of the term, Galicia also referred to an area of Northeast Europe, east of Silesia, that is now part of western Ukraine and eastern Poland, IIRC.

              • That is what I think of when I hear it mainly from reading histories of WWI.

              • What’s so weird about it? The term goes back to the Romans, and you can find a cognate for that word, which I believe originates in the name the Romans had for the same tribe that gave their name to Gaul. There’s a Galicia in the region of Poland, another in Romania, and several other places.

                It’s pretty much of a piece with Rome’s spread, in other words–Various parties adopted the name for their region, or their tribe.

                • Spanish Galicia was Gallaecia to the Romans – the land of the Gallaeci. Theories differ whether the name Gallaeci means ‘hill people’ or ‘forest people’, but it almost certainly has nothing to do with Galli (Gauls), whose name appears to derive from a Celtic root meaning ‘powerful’.

                  Polish-Ukrainian Galicia (a quick search tells me) derives from the city of Halych, which may be named after the Khalyzians. These were an obscure steppe people that first appear in the historical record in the 9th century AD, connected in various ways with the Magyars, Khazars, and Pechenegs. The area was never under Roman rule. It is purely an accident that the mediaeval Latin spelling used for the former Halych coincides with the modern spelling used for the former Gallaecia.

                  Sorry to be a spoilsport.

              • And I bet the accent in english sounds the same.

                We begin to see the subtle underpinnings of many mysteries, I think…

            • Bet the male part is a real surprise to hubby. Hey, I know how to solve the transsexual crisis (at least F to M): become conservative! No drugs or surgery involved, just scrubbing your mind 😁

              (kept trying to use “tranny,” which keeps auto-correcting as “tyranny.”

            • Does Obamacare require your insure to cover the conversion to male?

            • Christopher M. Chupik

              I seem to recall Clamps insisting that Portugal was white.

          • Indeed under the system you propose I think there would be a major industry of finding new ways to claim oppressed status.

            Ask someone who has lived in India the past two decades about fights by lower castes to get themselves declared untouchables in order to cash in on affirmative action that helps people one rung lower but not them.

            Talk about a race to the bottom.

      • “I’m far more interested in who I am and what I can do than in the shades of color of my ancestors or who did wrong to whom.”

        That’s because you’re an American (born in the wrong place). I’ve often thought that one of the prime requirements for American citizenship should be the ability to be over the question of who was doing what to whom back in the 1500s. As Mark Steyn put it, “If ever there was a call for the Clintonian call to ‘move on,’ this is it. After 500 years, even Paula Jones would settle.”

        • “What do you think of $FIVE_HUNDRED_YEAR_AGO_EVENT?”
          “I’m constipated about it.”
          “Huh?”
          “I just can’t give a crap.”

        • Yeah, the Bill of Rights specifically refutes the notion of “Corruption of Blood”.

          • Um, Article III, Section 3

            • Indeed, it was so fundamental that it was included in the original main body of the Constitution, along with strict limits on the definition of treason.

            • Oops, that should teach me (but probably won’t) to look up a reference before I make a claim.

              • At least you got it in the correct *document*, unlike some of the recent ‘Constitutional Scholars’ who have occupied the White House who claim that the Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness is in the Constitution. Of course it is, by its inclusion in the unspecified rights retained by the People under the Aegis of the Ninth Amendment in the Bill of Rights, but it is only *specifically* mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

                And don’t mind me (much), I’ve bought pocket Constitutions by the gross so I can hand them to folk after I engage them in vigorous debate on various political/Constitutional subjects.

          • There was one commenter I’ve clashed with, a lot, in a different forum. One of seemingly inexhaustible viciousness and bile.

            Except I recently managed to get myself blocked by observing everyone on earth has benefited from historical atrocities; cherry-picking a few of them, and then cherry-picking me because of my race. to try to blame me for things before I was born, was not going to work.

            • “…everyone on earth has benefited from historical atrocities…
              Lies, I tell you! Everyone knows all the little brown peoples lived in harmony with nature in peaceful matriarchies. Any atrocities are solely the fault of the White Race’s evil cultural imperialisms.

              And you put your hand down, little brown person, and shut your mouth! You do NOT come from a proud warrior race with a long, well preserved oral tradition! You’re what we Western White Oppression Studies majors say you are! Now be good little victims of Western Culture, or there will be no development grants!!
              [Obligatory sarcasm tag here]

      • State Department may say you’re Latina, but we know you’re really white (and male, and Mormon, but with a *great* rack!)

        (((ducks under desk to avoid incoming))

      • That is probably the most numerous turn of phrase I have seen for that practice.

      • I am in a curious position. I APPEAR white – and blond, and blue-eyed – but according to many “progressive” folks, I could very easily be black (“one drop” theory) or Native American (one-sixteenth, IIRC?).

        “Well,” the lefty-racist-types would say, “you should know all that from your geneaology, so what ARE you?”

        I don’t know. I’m adopted. My parents are John and Mary Doe. I have absolutely zero knowledge of my genetic history, and zero interest in finding out.

        That makes me a Schrodinger. Since no one KNOWS I don’t have the right to affix any given ethnic heritage to myself, and can’t know until/unless it is “observed” (via DNA test), they have no moral right to affix anything to me because they MIGHT be oppressing someone – and as we all know, unwittingly oppressing someone is a microaggression at the very least.

        I therefore self-identify as Unicorn. Why not? Rachel Dolezal still calls herself Black, Caitlyn Jenner still calls himself a Woman, but biologically they aren’t. So if Race and Gender are mere constructs, so is Species.

        I’m endangered! Give me federal cash monies! -:D

        • They seem to have such issues with mythic identities, which is rather strange considering what all they invent.

          • Feather Blade

            I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until the otherkin organize enough to demand their entitlements ^_^

          • Side note: I once went to heckle an Aryan Nations event, only to discover the “tri-state” affair netted a mere 30 souls. I wound up talking to them instead, and their FIRST concern was identical to the “social-justice” crowd – “what are your genes?”

            See, I COULD be quarter-Jewish, or another form of “mud man” (as they called it). They simply did not know whether to pursue my friendship or scorn me… all because of my unknown heritage.

            So yeah. These modern-day race activists? Just the flip side of the Aryan Nations coin.

        • I APPEAR white – and blond, and blue-eyed – but according to many “progressive” folks, I could very easily be black (“one drop” theory) or Native American (one-sixteenth, IIRC?).
          […]
          I therefore self-identify as Unicorn.

          Since Unicorn are typically, though not universally white, there would be the “toxic whiteness” BUT given the nature of Unicorn, you’re self-decontaminating. That could certainly cause confusion in some folk.

        • I once knew a beautifully blonde gal, awesome cheekbones and slightly almond eyes. At one point, her brother got heckled by a white supremacist (our college was within fifty miles of a major compound, and retreats sometimes happened closer.) I was boggling, but apparently her mother or grandmother was native Mexican, and by that I mean a hefty dose of indigenous population. Hence the cheekbones and the shape of the eyes.

          When I wrote my book, my heroine was physically based on her. She was very camera-shy, so I had no pictures, but when I did the cover, I looked at photos of SW Native Americans as inspiration.

      • Portuguese sailors went abroad, met fascinating women and brought them back as souvenirs.
        not to mention those men from afar that wandered over for a spell and scattered the odd gene or three.

      • Patrick Chester

        I’ve thought of getting a DNA test done, though I’m more interested in finding if I have any medical conditions that can be inherited. Otherwise it’s just a bit of curiosity.

        • These topics make me consider it out of curiosity, but it doesn’t last. At my age, the genetic stuff has probably already manifested; I have my doubts of the security of the tests; and I think our hostess has pointed out the genetic markers thing are hit and miss. Any remaining curiosity doesn’t survive the price of the test.

          • One of my brothers did one of those out of curiosity. It showed the proportion of gene sets from the various areas, but what’s interesting is that it accurately placed the *time* that his latest ancestor from each area likely came over. So even though his genes had less than half the particular groups that my dad brought in, it said that side of the family had come to America in the decades around WWII. (While not strictly correct, since my dad’s parents met and married in the U.S., my dad’s genes would seem as though he were the immigrant.)

    • One of these days this group really needs to collect all the various sub-groups, just for kicks…
      The only constant seems to be “black,” but even then it flips between the Puddinhead Wilson version where J-Lo (or however they spell it) is a headliner for Black History month and the version where you’ve got to have EXACTLY the right shade of skin and the right hair to “count.”

      Mediterranean flips on if it’s “White” or not, ditto Spanish (even the blonds, which I don’t get…) and Asian and Arabic, don’t get me started on the Persians and if they are shoved under Arabic/Semitic….

      *headache* And I thought grandma’s fussing over Scottish, Irish and British was bad.

      • Or you could be like the Amish. There are the Amish, and the “English” (everyone else).

        • But then we can’t have both Spanish and French Basque groups! (Which, naturally, VERY MUCH FIGHT. At least they did when my godfather’s family left the area, who knows what’s up now.)

          • Sure you could! They’d just all be English, so far as the Amish would be concerned.

            • So, are Mennonites English to the Amish, and vice versa?

              • You know, that’s a good question. I never found out. At a guess, the Mennonites would consider the Amish to be more extreme but still fellow- Anabaptists, while the Amish would consider the Mennonites to be English that almost have a clue. 😀

        • Much more traditional. them and us was the much more normal division, instead of regarding some divisions among them as equal to the chasm separating us.

      • Michael Houst

        I’m Unique. Any attempt at involuntary, unacceptable-to-me, categorization will be considered an act of racism, sexism, genderism, creedism, ethicism, nationalism, colorism, and any other -isms you care to invent.
        Isn’t that the way we’re supposed to play The Game now?

  4. Or, and I know it’s a crazy idea, you could deal with the people in front of you as individuals and not props in your one-man morality play.

    Charlie Martin posted on Facebook about a professor at NYU who restaged moments from the Presidential debates with the genders flipped, they had an actress perform Trump’s words and mannerisms while an actor did the same for Hillary. The expectation going in was that people would be turned off by a woman acting the way Trump did. It turned out that this enabled those to watched it to overcome their biases and realize that Trump was actually a much better politician than Hillary. I don’t know if that realization triggered anyone to reexamine their belief structure, but it should.

    • Paul Koning

      Neat story about that NYU test.

      For years now I have used a “swap the labels” method to test whether a particular organization, law, policy, or whatnot should be considered acceptable. It works just like you described: replace “black” by “white, or “male” by “female” and vice versa. See if the resulting description looks like a bad thing. If yes, then the same thing applies to what you started with.

      Examples of imaginary organizations you would get from that test are “national organization of men” or “congressional white caucus” or “white lives matter”.

      • Bernie Sanders was nearly pilloried when, in reaction to Black Lives Matter, he asserted, ‘All lives matter.’ The agitators are not really interested in equality, they want to gain power and to exert control.

        • BINGO!

        • Not to mention that Black Lives Matter in practice is mostly Thug Lives Matter. They barely responded to a couple of incidents of hard-working black men who were shot by trigger-happy cops in routine traffic stops, but when some young punk with a long rap sheet for actual violent crime (as opposed to chickens*** administrative things) gets shot while refusing to obey a reasonable order or while fleeing the police, they’re all over it like flies on a cowpat.

          And they were nowhere at all to be seen when a young black woman in our neighborhood was killed by a hit-and-run driver while walking along a busy street with no sidewalks and not enough streetlights. Never came to ask why such a busy street lacks sidewalks and a reasonable amount of illumination. Never even asked whether the IMPD was giving her case the same level of attention they would give a white victim of a hit-and-run driver. There’s a family that deserves closure, so where are these people to remind everyone that her life matters too? Too busy blocking streets to protest the latest police shooting of a d***fool who wasted his life.

          • Yep, I don’t recall the massive Black Lives Matter rallies & marches in Chicago, but I’m sure they’ve held them, right?

            What? What do you mean that Black Lives Matter *isn’t* interested in black-on-black violence; don’t black lives matter?

            • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

              There may have been “Black Lives Matter” rallies in Chicago but they’d been because of Black Thugs killed by Police.

              Never about Blacks killed by Black Thugs.

              • Around here, one of the preachers in the Five Points Coalition took some flak for using the “Black Lives Matter” slogan to say “stop shooting each other.” He was a lot darker than a lot of the protesters who objected to it.

          • Patrick Chester

            Black lives don’t really matter to BLM: What matters are certain deaths they can exploit/wave the bloody shirt to incite hatred against cops/white people/whatever other group they need to blame.

          • Then there would be the fearful danger of getting the driver, the sidewalks, and the lights. They would have go to home and be good in quotidian ways to win that moral approval, and it would lack the special fervor of these protests.

      • Former CBS journalist Sharyl Attkisson had a similar rule, testing herself for bias by swapping party affiliations for her intended story.


        Which is why she is former CBS journalist Sharyl Attkisson. The very idea! What kind of world would we have if every journalist engaged in such dangerous practices?

        • Who would have thought that the administration who was so obsessed with appearances would have thought we shouldn’t have access to information that would reflect poorly upon them?

      • I believe you mean you get Alt-Right.

        Oh wait, they aren’t imaginary.

      • One local trivia team is “Black Olives Matter”…perhaps that could provide new ideas for a test.

    • “Or, and I know it’s a crazy idea, you could deal with the people in front of you as individuals and not props in your one-man morality play.” Well, now, that’s just COMPLETELY nuts! I mean, that’s WORK,

      • With the sheer number of special group identifications presently on the table I would think that it takes just about all the time and attention people have to keep track of the most current nuances in the hierarchies of victim-hood involved.

        You will always have a reason to be found guilty.

        • This is why your only hope of salvation resides in subscribing to Everyday Feminism, donating to the site, clicking on sponsors’ ads and adjusting to their diktats as quickly as they are issued.

          Nobody ever said that being a cult member* would be easy.

          *Being a cult member, or as it is colloquially known, being a prick.

    • “Or, and I know it’s a crazy idea, you could deal with the people in front of you as individuals and not props in your one-man morality play.”

      That requires thought and effort, with perhaps a dash of humility and effort at actually understanding. I’m sure you see the problem for them. (Please do not step in sarcasm of unknown depth.)

    • Got a video? Might be interesting watching.

    • My cousin is busy flipping out over a picture of Disney princesses.

      Someone made a cool fan picture, and in response some jerk whined about how it’s got too many white people.

      Because that’s totally relevant, and it’s like totally not racist at all to select princesses by their “race” instead of the over-all effect one was going for.

      /eyeroll

      • [S]ome jerk whined about how it’s got too many white people

        Given it was merely a photo that complainant could only have undertaken the most superficial examination possible and could not possibly have determined those people were “white.” Because race is a social construct the only possible way to determine the racial identities of those people would have been careful, in-depth interviews, preferably over a candlelit dinner and drinks afterward, perhaps a nightcap in their apartment.

        Alternatively, being a Disney Princess might be argued to be innately “White” and therefore any Disney Princess is de facto White regardless of their skin melanin content, ancestry or cultural heritage.

        • Probably the latter, I know some folks flip out about Jasmine’s outfit not being “authentic.” (Which actually makes for some funny escalation, because there are/were some sub-groups before the “everyone wear a trashbag with mesh so you can’t see her eyes and be tempted” thing that were pretty close to her outfit.)

        • > race is a social construct

          Then obviously sickle cell anemia is a racist disease…

          • ‘White’ folk of Eastern Med ancestry are also able to suffer from that (iirc Jamie Farr/Klinger did stuff for Sickle Cell research because of a family history of it)

            • It’s a single-letter error in the DNA that codes for hemoglobin production, so it’s not surprising that the mutation would occur independently around the world, especially considering that it only causes trouble for people who have two copies of the defective gene (one on each Chromosome 11), and then only under certain kinds of stress. What makes it interesting is the protection from malaria that comes from having one copy of the defective gene, which leads to it spreading through the population to the level that a significant number of people inherit a double dose.

      • Is this that “Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter” picture?

        • Yeah, has the Frozen girls in it– I guess Elsa should’ve been race-bent into an Eskimo or something? *eyeroll*

          I do feel sorry for whoever made it, it’s pretty and a neat idea, and right off the bat someone has to take a dump on it.

          • The version that came across my transom had a pretty detailed rebuttal of the SJW pointing out that the reason the four princesses were white was because their source stories all came from northern Europe, which is pretty darn white. He pointed out that Disney had a fair number of non-white Princesses, but they didn’t make sense for that particular idea.

  5. I’ve heard of “lethal white” but that’s rather different – and serious. This is.. very, very silly. Unless taken seriously, then it’s very, very sad.

    • The crazy is so prevalent nowadays, I often have no idea whether my leg is being pulled.

      Somewhere, the creaters of The Onion are ROFLing.

      • paladin3001

        No the creators of The Onion aren’t laughing, they are crying. It’s so hard to create good satire when the real world keeps one upping you all the damn time.

        • “We can’t do that. Nobody would go for something that stupid!”
          * The morning paper arrives…
          “Uhm.. we still can’t go with it. Seems it’s just not stupid enough.”

          • And people still scratch their heads that Dumb and Dumber actually did well in the box office.

        • Yes, exactly.

        • On the other hand, now would be an excellent time for them to transition from satire to “not-fake” news.

          “We don’t have to make things up any more! Reality-as-we-know-it is now even weirder than us!”

        • “The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.”

          Tom Clancy

        • Actually, about five years ago I realized the creators of The Onion have a limited horizon time machine. They can go to the future but only 5-10 years. Instead of the obvious stock market or sports betting use, however, they decided to go with printing the future’s news as today’s parody news.

  6. paladin3001

    *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*…..
    It’s crap like this that’s going to make my job oh so much harder. “I am white, therefore I am racist”, meanwhile I have run across far more racism from different nationalities, heritages (I try not to use race because that means we are separate species), what not.
    Worse part is that I had to stop following a few “relatives” (son’s aunts) on facebook due to the crap they were sharing with me. Like articles and links to “raising a bi-racial child” (seriously they are out there, way out there), or how vaccinations cause 400% more deaths and autism in children of African heritage.

    Then there’s the random strangers downtown that are handing out (sorry “selling”) black history pamphlets and saying I should be teaching my son about “His history”.

    I am going to be so sick of the implied, and directed racism that I will be having to watch a lot of my temper.

    As to “Toxic Whiteness”, I will be using a phrase a lot that Mad Mike has been saying on Facebook about precious little snowflakes.

    • OMG. Yeah. My kids CONTINUOUSLY got yanked from normal classes and put in bilingual (Spanish) education.
      They speak not a word of Spanish. I know some but never taught them. They speak not a word of Portuguese because I figured if they wanted to learn it, they could learn it at 14 like I learned English. I didn’t see any point to give them a weird “longing” for the country I CHOSE NOT TO RAISE THEM IN. Seriously.
      So the school would put them in bilingual classes. After a day or two they told me (I’m informing you right now kids are weird. To them this was something bizarre adults did, and being an adult I probably already knew. But at some point they’d say “I wish I could understand math class. If only they explained it in English.”) At which point, I’d lose my sh*t and descend on the school like the wrath of mom. I’d explain, very patiently, that they did NOT have any kind of Spanish ancestry, they don’t speak Spanish, and please return them to the English classes they are doing well in.
      Again and again I got the stupid lament of “Don’t you want them to know about their culture?” And explained that yes, as sons of a mathematician and a science fiction writer, they were being taught about their culture, by being given sf/f books and taken to conventions. The officials never GOT it.
      MEANWHILE Robert — who, because G-d has a sense of humor, is the lighter of the two and has poke-straight hair — often got considered “black” (You’d get it, if you saw his features) and a crazy (liberal) racist teacher tried to convince us he was mentally retarded and should be taught at home. (He was reading college-level text books in chemistry (his obsession at the time) in elementary.) And when you pointed out she did this to kids she thought were “mixed race” (the kid of a friend of ours) the school told us this was impossible, because she was liberal.
      Yeah, you have a tough job ahead of you. If it helps, others have done it and survived. My kids are in stem, demanding programs, doing well, and their friends don’t think they’re some kind of weird curiosity.
      OTOH the attempts to shove them into a linguistic identity means BOTH of them refused to learn another language. Well, Robert speaks French passably (note he CHOSE French) and Marsh has some interest in Chinese, but even though Spanish would actually help them both in their professions, they won’t touch it with a ten foot pole. And they refuse to learn enough Portuguese to speak to relatives in Portugal.
      And that’s the “Why don’t you teach them about their culture” damage. Because culture is NOT genetic or racial. You aren’t born with a culture. This stupidity is how the crazy left is just like Hitler. Culture is something you learn, and humans are plastic in what culture they adopt, as … well… adoptions show.
      But we live in a crazy racist culture. And not from the side they tell you it comes from.

      • paladin3001

        Yeah, I am going to be hated and feared by whatever school he goes to. My goal is to get out of the city I am in and head to a smaller town if possible. Just to short circuit the ‘cultural’ teachings that will be forced down our throats. Sorry, my son was born in Canada, I am a Canadian, his mother was born here, so his culture is CANADIAN! Not some fly speck of an island in the Caribbean, or further back some forgotten tribe in the Dark Continent.
        I forsee a lot of deprogramming in my future. Good thing I like collecting weird and diverse subjects in dead tree editions. Can’t wait till I can start shelving them again.

        • The Spouse and I had plenty of arguments with our local school system before we pulled her to home educate. The Daughter was in school during a big push to mainstream everybody which came before the big push for culturally sensitive education. We would have been supremely ticked if we had experienced such cultural ignorance.

          Is someone really going to expect us to believe that Tunisia on the Mediterranean coast, has the same cultural heritage as that of either Angola on the southern Atlantic coast, or landlocked Uganda at the headwaters of the of the White Nile? There is no monolithic continental-wide African culture.

          To quote Steely Dan’s Are You Reelin’ In The Years, “The things that pass for knowledge I can’t understand.’

          • Yep. I have had an interesting upbringing. My mom was born in West Africa to missionary parents, I was raised on African stories, both personal and folklore (loved Anansi stories). I have also been an avid reader of lots of cultures because…voracious reader. 🙂

            • My kids are mixed, my husband came here to the US from Cameroon (but was raised in Liberia: his folks were missionaries). Ping me whenever and we can commiserate about stupid racist ‘anti-racists’ or whatever. (We’re a real good mix-up, and the wrappers are misleading according to family history on all sides.)

              • I may just take you up on that. Mom was born and partially raised in Liberia, so would be interesting to definitely compare notes.

                • Ricks Institute, by any chance? There’re nine years between sis-in-law and husband, so . . .

                  If yes, ask her if she remembers Ezechiel and Anne Bambolo. They would have arrived in Liberia around 1965.

                  • paladin3001

                    That’s way after my mom’s time there. 🙂
                    She was born in 1940 in a place called Gaple I believe? She used to travel to the Firestone Plantation for doctor visits if that helps.

          • There is no monolithic continental-wide African culture.

            That can be expanded to “there is no monolithic skin-color-wide culture.”

            I’d be DELIGHTED to get more stories than a handful of Spider tales for Africa, some Coyote tales from the Indians, Arabian Nights for the Middle East* and the Jungle Book for the India-Indians….but I’d also like it if folks wouldn’t act like Beowulf and King Arthur and all those stories about Charlemagne that I only know about because of vague allusions in old stories are the same….

            Moar stories! MOAR!!!! *imagine Godzilla sized gif kitty roaring*

            I know Mary here shares a lot of collections of fairy stories by theme, which is really going to do damage to my book budget once we’re back in our own house, but I wish there were just MORE sources for all these different stories– instead these twerps go and take the same half-dozen really popular Grimm’s stories, mangle them and slap different skin-mods on, and it’s supposed to be different cultures.

            No wonder Anime is eating their lunch…..

            • Mangling the popular fairy tales for the culture is an OLD tradition. The publication of Grimms’ Fairy Tales produced a change in what fairy tales were told in Japan. And there’s an African country where one folklorist collected stories, and somewhat later, another team also did so, and were impressed by his thoroughness, EXCEPT that he didn’t find a single variation of “Cinderella” and they were always tripping over them; they finally concluded that the most probable explanation was that he had, in return, told THEM some fairy tales, and they had looked at Cinderella, gone, “Hey, cool!” and grabbed it.

              • Mangling I’d be fine with– it’s boiling it to death and then painting it, then passing it off as a different culture’s stuff.

                It’s like the difference between when my family says what they expect me to say vs letting me say it; sometimes it’s accurate, but a lot of the time it just tells me what they think I’ll think and takes a long time to do a bad job of it!

                • Oh that one is annoying. Too many times I was about to say something and someone else “finishes the thought” for me, incorrectly, and then explains why it’s wrong – when it was NOT what I was about to say! Then they get surprised that I’m upset with them for saying something so obviously stupid.

            • paladin3001

              I have a dead tree edition of Arabic folktales. NOT Arabian Nights stuff. Gathered around the turn of the 20th century and later. From all across the Mediterranean basin and parts east. Fascinating. Unfortunately it’s buried in one of my storage boxes until the Squire learns that clearing shelves isn’t a good idea.

              • If you can come up with some suggestions, please share!

                • paladin3001

                  Did a search on Amazon and it was listed as a third party seller. This is the book I have exact cover.
                  http://a.co/faZMa1y

                  • Thank you! I’ve been burned a few times, looking for “Irish folktales,” so gotta get suggestions when I don’t even known enough to know hwat I don’t know.

                  • Oh, that’s awesome– it’s part of the same “series” as my decent Irish book, although neither of them have it anywhere on the cover that I can see– The Pantheon Fairy Tale and Folklore Library.

                    Now I have starting points for a lot of things. 😀

                    DOUBLE thank you!

                  • That’s a good one.

                    The Pantheon ones are often pretty good.

          • ” There is no monolithic continental-wide African culture.”

            Are you claiming that Arthur C. Clarke misled us?
            😉

      • And here I thought this would be a nice relaxing retsina day and poured, and it seems that perhaps it’s an ouzo day after all. Ah well, maybe I just need to relax… and have another glass of retsina.

      • a crazy (liberal) racist teacher tried to convince us he was mentally retarded and should be taught at home.

        She was right, you know. She merely had one of her signs flipped. The statement should properly read:
        “a crazy (liberal) racist teacher tried to convince us she was mentally retarded and he should be taught at home.”

        • D_mn cosmic rays, flipping flippin’ bits like that.

        • I hypothesize that a significant percentage of ‘retarded’ students are merely hard for the govt schools to teach using their formulaic method. Change the methods properly and they will far outpace their peers. But we cannot have that.

          • Not sure about retarded, but my special ed teacher said that barring something like fetal alcohol syndrome, he got about half and half on why they needed special education.

          • Government schools don’t seem to be very successful at teaching non-retarded kids using their formulaic method, either…

            • Doesn’t that depend on what you think they’re trying to teach? Hatred of arbitrary authority, dislike of learning, personal victimhood …

        • Patrick Chester

          I must admit I misread Sarah’s comment and thought the teacher was admitting to being mentally impaired. 🙂

      • And explained that yes, as sons of a mathematician and a science fiction writer, they were being taught about their culture, by being given sf/f books and taken to conventions

        We got ranch stories and were told Tolkien’s mythology as our folk-tales; same thing.

    • My sis in law and her boyfriend were assaulted for inter-racial dating.

      By the school’s black gangs.

      • Seriously? My uncle got beat up for dating my aunt because he was from ANOTHER VILLAGE. Like 10 miles away. Humans are tribal. To claim only whites are tribal is the insanity. And so the focus on race CREATES racial problems. People will still be dickheads without racial focus. they’ll just be dickheads about other things. “She combs her hair funny.” Eh.

        • Truth– the valley I grew up in had huge “racial” problems, although the only race these guys would see is “white” and whatever the term for Indian is this week– but the Indians broke down into different groups (mostly Rez and Not), and then there was the REAL animus– Italian vs French Basq, Spanish Basq and Spanish Mexicans vs Mexican-Mexicans and some of the Not Rez Indians… I can’t even keep track of it, because my folks tried to make sure the crazies didn’t get ahold of us.

          Oh, and then on top of it there’s the lava-lamp like churning in the normal churches vs the various “bible churches,” which was so insane that the generic Protestant would be more on the “bible church” side while the Church of England type Protestant was with the Catholics and….

          Yeah. People!

        • Where I grew up, some kids would still take issue when someone from their school dated someone from a school that was their traditional football rival. It was like you were a traitor to your school or something — and because of the way the district lines were drawn through the rural areas between towns, this could mean the kid down the road.

          I was in the weird position of having a mailing address and phone number from the neighboring town that was one of our school’s biggest football and basketball rivals. So when I went to summer camp, where our “hometown” was determined by our mailing address, not our church or school affiliation, I was consistently misidentified as being a member the wrong community.

          Oddly enough, the two schools have since consolidated, thanks to declining population in that rural area. I bet the Class of ’17 would be astonished at how intense the old Blue Devils vs. Bobcats rivalry was for the Class of ’85, and how some of my classmates took offense when “Bobcat Territory” signs showed up on light poles right along the district boundaries, particularly at crossroads.

        • An uncle was dating a girl in another community in the US, and the local boys took exception. He stopped for gas and when he went to leave, they picked up the back of his car (the days of rear-wheel drive). He’d put it out of gear and step out and they’d set it down. After they pulled this twice, he put the car in reverse, announced it, stepped out with it in gear, and watched. They begged him to get back in. After a while he did, and after that left him alone.

          • I would have rolled the window down enough to tell them that I was giving them 10 seconds to put the rear end down, then I was going to put it in reverse and rev the engine up to 2500 RPM and hold it there until they couldn’t hold it up any longer.

      • paladin3001

        Exhibit C of why I want to move to a smaller city/town. :/

        • Free Range Oyster

          Agreed. I’ve spent much of my life in and around ghettos & favelas; these days my ideal size is “just big enough to have a Walmart.” Once we can afford land and a house to our liking, my ideal will be “ten minutes of highway outside a city just big enough for a Walmart.”

      • Christopher M. Chupik

        I’m not surprised, unfortunately.

    • You can always tell a racist by the color of his skin.

  7. Perusing through the pictures, I was shocked, shocked to see a bunch of aging, upper middle class white women, with the exception of the one Asian.

    I’d be willing to bet that these women, stewing in their first world problems, carefully select their encounters with other races. This should reveal volumes about their own racist tendencies and character, but it won’t.

    Projection is much easier.

    One day far into the future, when the field of psychology manages to remove its area of study from its lower colon, these miserable souls will make for interesting study.

    • The problem being that in order for psychology to remove its head from its digestive system, most of these people will have to no longer be working in the field of psychology.

      • Like I said some time ago. I got enough psych courses to qualify for a minor and learned that (A) I’d have to be nuts to finish the degree and work in the field (I dumped it and went fully into I.T. instead), and (B) the APA would never accept me even if I did get otherwise fully qualified.

    • The pictures are awesome.

  8. How much Native American do I have to have in my ancestry before I get rid of my “toxic whiteness”? Oh, it’s just based on my skin color? Okay. I understand where we’re going with this.

    • I wonder how long it takes before I’m considered native American. My first immigrant ancestor on any branch of my family tree arrived in 1790. He was Irish, and I feel absolutely no cultural kinship with him, or any of my English, French, German, or Swiss ancestors.

      • Unless your ancestors crossed over the temporary land bridge between Asia and North America you will always be considered a late-comer by the nattering nabobs of political correctness.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

        In the minds of the Left, never. 😦

      • Of my 4 sets of g-grandparents, one set came from England, the other from Ireland- and don’t dare mix them up… The other two sets trace back to 1750 and before for arrival times. Going back that far I should have DNA traces of Indian, er, Native American. Had a DNA test done. 100% European, though it didn’t break it down. Had direct line ancestors on both sides of that 1860-1865 unpleasantness. The line from our hostess later on, Asked about “American blacks” he said “oh, yeah, my colleagues and I have a specialized word for Americans of African descent. The word is “Caucasian.”” is applicable to my extended family. One of my ancestral relatives had 30 children with the female slaves. I can trace one of my distant cousins as black on one census, mulatto on another, and white on his WWI draft card. So the concept of race is more fluid then some people think.

        • Let’s talk about DNA tests. They actually don’t reflect your ancestry. It just shows about half of your DNA. They are what is known as “Scientific bullsh*t” — I’m trying to get older son to write a post explaining it, because I can understand it but NOT explain it. However, rest assured you PROBABLY do have Amerindian ancestry and it could show in your kids.

          • That’s interesting. But my kids could also have Amerindian from my wife’s family. There are lines of hers that I can’t trace back to arrival in North America. There’s only one line of my family with that. My mother’s side. I can with fair certainty trace back to an ancestor in VA born circa 1700. Beyond him, I can find trees that show his father coming from England, and other trees showing a migration from NY down to VA. But none of the trees has any documentation, so I haven’t gone with either. What’s intriguing, though, is his son married a female descendant of one of two brothers who came to the US as indentured servants. One to SC, one to MA. And in the trees that show the migration down from NY, his father married a daughter of the other brother… but, no documentation.

            • Yeah. We know our kids (well older) has a fair amount of Amerindian from a problem older son has. Now, mind you, MIL Looks Amerindian, so there was reason there. BUT we haven’t had the DNA test. Son told us those tests were junk science when we were joking that we’ll have the test and the Amerindian will be on my side.
              the caveat is: it doesn’t show things you don’t have. But it might not show things you have.

              • The explanation I got, which is some years old and may be outdated, is that the DNA tests only look for a handful of “typical” markers in order to save time and money.

                This has also been a problem with the “paternity test” DNA tests.

                • Yeah, but that’s only part of it. The other part is each conception, basically, half the DNA is jettisoned. It still tells you which genes you have that are active, it just doesn’t tell you either the dormant ones, or the ones multiple conceptions discarded.

    • Ask Elizabeth Warren.

    • If you’re a democrat, .00000000 %
      See Elizabeth Warren for the classic example.

    • How much blood have you had transfused from a native American donor this week? 😉

    • I’m set to answer “What do you mean, paleface?” if I run into such. Want to see what happens. It’s not claiming to be an Indian, but I want to see how long it takes for them to figure that out.

      OTOH, one of ours finally got the “Are you Cherokee?” question. While ours does have Indian ancestry through my wife, the trait that caught that Indian’s attention is standard in our family, so . . .

      Then again, if that trait came from Europe but was associated by people with Indians, that could explain how the rumors started.

      Heh. It just occurred to me that when the kids asked, for school projects, what was their culture, I should have told them “CONFEDERATE,” and if the school didn’t like it, complain they were suppressing their culture. Might would have put a stop to that foolishness.

      • fftt. Some of those Cherokee on the Trail of Tears were mightly white looking folks already.
        Made a whiner about that sputter once when I asked “Were they allowed to take their slaves with them when they left?”

      • Some of the Cherokee aligned themselves with the Confederate states and fought on their behalf. This means there are those who could rightly claim both cultures. This, I believe, would make some deserving heads spin.

  9. Toxic Whiteness – why I have to walk after sunset of before sunrise, wear long sleeves, long skirts, and hats at all times, and have things trimmed off my skin every year. But that’s not what the collectors of $$$ mean.

  10. “I don’t want my pain taken away! I need my pain!”

    And the only toxic racists are the ones trying to brainwash me into thinking I am one.

    • That pain means they are alive, and they believe that the pain they ‘feel on behalf of others’ makes them good.

      I would guess that they progressed to the age when they were first being taught to empathize, but never developed to greater subtleties.

    • On the concept of pain, I agree with Carly Simon. I haven’t got time for it.

  11. I will allow that there are laws, institutions, and customs that could be called “racist”: apartheid, Jim Crow laws, laws against miscegenation. But if you use “racism” to refer to a property of an organized system, you cannot describe individuals within that system as “racist,” any more than you can discuss whether a particular brain cell is intelligent. Making that transfer is classically called the fallacy of division, if I remember correctly.

    Still more awkwardly, if racism is a property of an entire system, and if you transfer it to individuals within that system, the transfer is valid for all of them. Black people, people of East or South Asian descent, Native Americans—all participate in a racist society and are therefor racist.

    But I suppose logic is also considered “racist”?

    • H*ll. I understand the alphabet is patriarchal, so probably.

    • You’re being logical, sensible, and sane. They can’t have that. Keep up the good work.

    • You misunderstand. This is the leftist religion’s sacrament of confession. Don’t try to make it make logical sense. You can’t.

    • “But I suppose logic is also considered “racist”?”

      Not only logic. Mathematics itself is racist and oppressive. That’s why there’s not more women and people-of-tan in STEM, you know.

      I wish I was making that up.

      • Hell, those morons were making those claims back in the late 1970’s to explain the shortage of women and non-Asian minorities in Engineering schools. Our standards were simply too high.

        • Somewhere I read recently that a sociology of education PhD candidate (North Dakota?) wrote her dissertation on the implicit -isms in the teaching of the hard sciences. Things like making students calculate their own grades after the prof shows them how discriminate against women and Persons of Color.

          As Bill the Cat said, “AaAAAAK-pathOOie!”

      • Randy Wilde

  12. You know, some decades back now, there was a change between editions of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual from considering homosexuality as such to be a psychopathology to considering that “ego-dystonic homosexuality” was a pathology, and if you were G or L and didn’t feel any need to change, there was nothing wrong with you. Maybe we could have a shift to concern about “ego-dystonic whiteness,” the tragic condition of people who happen to be “white” (as Heinlein pointed out, the categories of “black” and “white” are socially constructed anyway, but let’s not make things complicated) and cannot accept that about themselves.

    • The Sorting Photometer as diagnostic device?

      From waaaay back, Laugh In:

      “Would you be happy with a vice president named Agnew?”
      “We have a vice president named Agnew.”
      “Well, are you happy about it?”

    • Older son whose undergrad is human biology says ALL RACES are sexual constructs. It reminded me of an anthropologist who was giving a talk at my college and who was talking about (they’re more elusive than you’d think) genetic race markers. Asked about “American blacks” he said “oh, yeah, my colleagues and I have a specialized word for Americans of African descent. The word is “Caucasian.”” He pointed out that the black population of America that has been here for centuries — not new immigrants — have fewer “African genetic markers” (and keep in mind that those are very few ANYWAY) than most Europeans in Mediterranean countries.
      The few markers that establish Caucasian ancestry, such as being born with blue eyes affect black and white populations in America. My younger son, otoh, was born with black eyes. 😉

  13. Is it possible that the folks at Everyday Feminism are this era’s edition of Monty Python? The alternate hypothesis would be that they suffer from Toxic Liberalism, but were that the case surely they’d have all forgotten to breathe ere now.

  14. I would like to be The Man but I am finding it difficult to find people to subjugate. Are there resources out there on how to embrace my inner Cis-Hetero Normative White Male Oppressor?

    • Those untermenschen are denying you your cultural identity!

    • I think you’re supposed to follow the Gospel of Abundance and let it manifest in your life. You see, if you just think about being an oppressor ALL THE TIME, and focus on your desire for it to be true, eventually all that will enter your consciousness will be opportunities to become the oppressor you always knew you could be.

      Or at least that is what it seems these people have done with their notions of race and injustice and oppression.

  15. These people spend entirely too much time justifying their self-hatred.

  16. Personally, I am all about the Whiteness. I am Scottish, Canadian, and so lily white I can get a tan under the full moon. I can stick my pinky finger out the window in Arizona for thirty seconds, and make more vitamin D than I need for a week. I am so White I nearly glow in the dark. If you cut me, I bleed maple syrup.

    Therefore, rather than fight it, I am embracing my Whiteness. I am on a haggis and fried bannock diet, with oatmeal for breakfast. My Whiteness toxicity is reaching such levels as have not been seen since Hadrian was forced to build his wall. Rush Limbaugh calls -me-, these days.

    You people who tan, beware the force of the Whiteness! You’ll be spontaneously picking up litter and wondering about starting an RRSP after I just walk by you on the street. Engage me in conversation for but a moment, you’ll be scrambling to get an NRA membership and a Trump hat while you bitch about your taxes.

    Now -that- is some toxic Whiteness.

    • Reminds me of the answer Coast Guard at boot camp are supposed to reply with when asked how long they’ve been in.

      “All me bloomin’ life. Me father was Neptune, me mother a mermaid. I was born on the crest of a wave and rocked in the cradle of the deep. Me eyes is stars, me teeth is spars. Me hair is hemp and seaweed. And when I’s spits, I’s spits tar. I’s tough, I am, I is, I are.”

    • Okay, here’s something I envy you. You can make Vitamin D. to do so I’d have to layout in a skimpy bikini, and given my age and shape, that’s considered an act of war. So I have to buy and take my vitamin D. Sigh.

  17. I have used baking soda to neutralize my Toxic Masculinity, but it increased my Toxic Whiteness. Everyone else is sooooooooooooo
    bummed, but I’ve gotten over it.

  18. From JWR’s “Quote of the Day” —

    When a society abandons its ideals just because most people can’t live up to them, behavior gets very ugly indeed.
    — Judith Martin, a.k.a. “Miss Manners”

    Treating all people equally is clearly too tough for too many people.

    • A sadly astute observation, eh?

      Been a JWR subscriber since its earliest days. There’s such a jewel in almost every daily mailing.

    • One reason I’m a bit reluctant to toss off the “hypocrisy” charge. The easiest way not to be a hypocrite is to have no standards whatsoever.

  19. Tee-Hee:

    This day in liberal judicial activism—March 6
    By Ed Whelan — March 6, 2017

    1857—Chief Justice Taney’s ruling in Dred Scott marks the Supreme Court’s first use of the modern liberal judicial activist’s favorite tool—“substantive due process”—to invalidate a statute. In striking down the Missouri Compromise of 1820, which prohibited slavery in the northern portion of the Louisiana Territories, Taney nakedly asserts: “[A]n act of Congress which deprives a citizen of the United States of his liberty and property, merely because he came himself or brought his property into a particular Territory of the United States, and who had committed no offense against the laws, could hardly be dignified with the name of due process of law.”

    The dissenters in Dred Scott invoke, and properly apply, the originalist principles that liberal judicial activists regard as abhorrent. As Justice Curtis declares rhetorically in exposing Taney’s deviation from originalist principles: “[I]f a prohibition of slavery in a Territory in 1820 violated this principle of [due process], the ordinance of 1787 also violated it.” Further: “[W]hen a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under the government of individual men, who for the time being have power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of what it ought to mean.”

    Giggle snort.

  20. $97 to learn that I am white and toxic! Someone is a savvy scammer, that’s for sure.

    http://compassionateactivism.teachable.com/p/healing-from-toxic-whiteness

    • That $97 one time payment is a bargain! It reflects a saving of TWO dollars over the alternate three monthly payments of $33 plan.

    • Genius! This calls for a Hoyt-y response.

      Cut out the middle(wo)man and take the new Cloud-based Whiteness Detox course! Only $47.95 ( PayPal and all major credit cards accepted). Let the evil whiteness ooze out of you in the privacy of your own home, in your ‘jammies! AND, if you enroll in the next 5 minutes, we’ll send you a 30-day supply of Man-Away, to cure that toxic masculinity of yours. BUT YOU MUST ACT NOW. You racist.

      • Hello, My name is RES (Hi RES!) and I am Toxically White.

        Many days I rise, shower, dress and break my fast without once thinking about skin color. At work I often fail to notice the skin shades of fellow employees, instead categorizing them by whether they are good workers and pleasant to be around. I rarely make any effort to engage with them on the basis of racial hegemony, tending instead to discussions of local sports teams and recently viewed television and movies.

        During lunch I rarely ask the person of color personning the Drive-Through how they feel about Race In America, restricting my conversations to such mundane topics as what I want to eat and determining the correct payment.

        I even confess that upon reaching my home after work I pay more attention to whether my neighbors are keeping up their lawns and gardens than whether they are expressing their cultural and racial heritage by such acts of performance art as putting a truck up on cinder blocks.

        My name is RES (Hi RES!) and I am so Toxically White that I cannot even find a punchline for this comment.

  21. I did a double take when first seeing this blog title, especially since it isn’t April 1st.

  22. Now I want to go up to the black guy in the office and tell him, “Back off, I’ve got Toxic Whiteness”.

    This IS the guy who likes to start shit by saying, “You know, slavery is not inherently immoral,” so I would probably get a laugh after explaining.

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  24. Curing my Toxic whiteness?
    Let’s see. I could go out and get a tan; more vitamin D, better chance of skin cancer, so that’s pretty much a wash. I don’t think I get to go back and pick my parent’s genetics; not at this late date. Engineered retroviruses to change my skin’s base melanin content are still SF. And somehow I still don’t think those would cure my twisted thinking.
    Oh. You mean the toxic ideology that I got from being being born and raised in a predominantly white culture? Well, why didn’t you say so in the first place? Why did you have to confuse it with skin color? In that case, why can’t we also talk about toxic blackness, the kind that derides hard working black people who value education and achieve success in a predominantly white culture as “Uncle Toms” and “house niggers” [EEEK !! He used the N-word!!!], or emulates the speech and dress of violent criminals and drug dealers? Or the estrogen toxicity of feminism that derides not only men for the crime of being born men, but women who chose roles and occupations of motherhood?
    The one grain of truth in this screed is that every human culture has toxic elements that children grow up accepting without question and that need to be reexamined and changed if necessary. But there is a lot of chaff and mouse droppings here, too.

    • ^Ding. This.
      I wouldn’t mind people carping about toxic whiteness and toxic masculinity so much–especially the latter, because we’ve all known that guy who thinks “masculinity” means “let your hindbrain rule your life”–if they would acknowledge toxic blackness, brownness and whatnot as well.

  25. Patrick Chester

    I suspect I am irredeemable to these folks, since my skin is so pale. So all they get from me are my middle fingers.

    Though I can understand why they need to judge (and be judged) by skin color above all else: Their character is so lacking they’d be run out of town on a rail by pretty much anyone, no matter what town they went into.

  26. Minor typo and/or odd bit of grammar in the original (” I no think you know what those words mean.”) made me think of the classic Princess Bride line:

    “INCONCEIVABLE.”
    “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

    Assuming that was your intent, thank you for the smile in something that would otherwise make me want to weep.

    If you would indulge me, I’d like to give a bit of background. Parts of my family have been in the United States for a relatively long time. Long enough, in fact, that I qualify for membership in Sons of the American Revolution. That being said, some of the family came later – including at least one who I believe arrived legally in the US after our hostess. We have been lucky enough to preserve a lot of family stories including: the one who became an indentured servants to get to the US, the judge, the self-made lawyer (with the help of a couple of scholarships), the family of farmers which moved back to Ohio after their cows froze to death in a northwestern state’s winter, the paper salesmen/manufacturer who founded a company, a gold rush miner (who did well), a horse thief, a hard-living travelling engineer/troubleshooter type who worked on various production lines and won various outrageous bar bets, multiple generations of farmers, multiple school teachers and a postman (who rose to become a postal inspector). We don’t have many lifelong soldiers, but we do have a number who served when called or required for a time. However, not a single one of the family stories, biographies or census addresses indicate that we ever owned slaves or lived in a time and place where slavery was legal. The descendants of the Native American Indians may have had some justified complaints about my ancestors but the African American community – at least as far as I can tell – should not.

    Please don’t get me wrong. I do come from a privileged background – but that has nothing to do with the melanin in my skin or my ancestor’s skin. It has everything to do with one generation working hard that the next generation would prosper. For the record, I’ve been successful enough that my children have been receiving a privileged upbringing as well. That’s been one of my goals in life since I was a teenager – one of the few goals at which I’ve clearly succeeded. Then again, life doesn’t go as you plan it back then — witness the fact that I’m on roughly my third career at this time. I suspect this makes me irredeemable in the eyes of those who would characterize my whiteness as toxic. So be it.

    • Increasingly, it constitutes a privileged background if your mother knew your father a day longer than it took to conceive you.

  27. Example of my culture’s music:

  28. Forget a cure for “Toxic Whiteness”. What the world needs is a cure for “Toxic Stupidity”.

  29. Used to have an Asian guy in the next cubicle over that WOULD NOT STOP humming “Everyone Was Kung-Fu Fighting.”

    Drove me nuts. I still can’t listen to that song…

  30. That song reminds me of a Senior Talent Show at school. A group did real Kung Fu to the tune of Kung Fu Fighting. For whatever reason the MC, who didn’t realized it was carefully choreographed so no one would get hurt, ran on stage and was almost nailed by a kick.

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