So I shared this on Facebook. I’m not saying I agree with it 100%. Given that “Russian businessmen” is code for “Russian Mob” and that Putin is their man, you could say Trump is as compromised as Hillary.
That said, if Trump is as compromised as Hillary, BAH. On that point, as my mom would say “may the devil come and choose.” AKA, there is no difference.
You know my opinions, and I also know those of the three gentlemen in the video. They might be reluctant “will vote for Trump to avoid Hillary,” but they’re not in any way shape or form unthinking Trump supporters. They’re not unthinking anything, to be fair. So I thought their opinions warranted listening to.
And then one of my commenters on the thread, explained to me that he wasn’t going to listen to the gentlemen because of their skin color and gender. To be fair what he said was “Like I’m going to listen to white males, LOL.”
Mark that LOL, it is sort of a signpost.
My first reaction was “WTF?” This too is a sign post. I have WTF wrinkles on my forehead from trying to understand the crazy things people will say in politics. I mean, what the heck did Trump’s possible involvement with Russia have to do with gender or skin color?
If the video were about Hillary, a stupid person might think the only reason to oppose her was sexism, in which case I could see “they’re male” at least making sideways sense. For a very dim person that is. One who really believes all the hot air that emanates from the Clinton camp re: Clinton foundation monies, Benghazi, compromising national security, etc. I understand there are such people and have seen them (in a kind of awe, as one watches the naked mole rats, at the zoo) on Facebook.
But this had NOTHING whatsoever to do with male/female issues.
If the video had been about Black Lives Matter, again, I could see someone saying “they should at least have a black person for perspective about what it is like to be black in America.” (To which my answer is, “have a black person from Arab countries, for real perspective.” Never mind.)
But this was a discussion of a white male candidate, by white males, about possible involvement with evil white (and mostly male) powers.
Even if you’re a dim person who thinks that people think with their sex organs and skin, (the right name for that is sexist and racist) SURELY this would be the equivalent of having an all-black panel discussing Black Lives Matter. Right?
I’m me, and I’ve been in a semi-pissy mood. Well, not quite. The head cold was followed by the mother of all depressions, so that yesterday I had trouble talking myself into drinking coffee and writing was out of the question. If you saw my deadlines, you’d know how antsy I’m getting. So I pointed out the above, that if he believed that then he really was a stone cold racist and sexist.
What emerged was this crazy comment about how he was sure the three gentlemen had all pledged different fraternities and belonged to different country clubs.
I don’t know the background of the commenter, but I understand he’s fairly well off. So this is a “let them eat cake” moment. I know the backgrounds of the three men in the video and none of them pledged a fraternity and if one belongs to a country club it’s not what this commenter imagines.
What I mean to say is that what he said is as nakedly stereotyping and idiotic as saying “I bet all them darkies were sitting on their porch, eating watermelon and singing spirituals.” (And the closest I know to that would be older son, who would totally do this, if he weren’t low carb. Seriously. None of my black friends can sing. Well, maybe one. I’ve never asked him. Didn’t come up.)
NO ONE. NO ONE who lives in the real world can believe this bullshit. Most of my friends are white (Duh. It is still the majority in the US.) Mind you, most of them could probably claim another race, if they looked into it. But they’re white-looking. (I haven’t looked at their census forms, and we Americans are a mixed lot.)
I have not one white male friend who fits that stereotype the commenter invoked. Hell, I don’t have a MALE friend that fits that stereotype. Not one. This is possibly because, as Dave Freer calls it, most of my friends are strivers. They are from that vast American middle class that seems undifferentiated only if you don’t want to differentiate it. Because of my age, most of them are children of what Heinlein called “the neglected children of WWII”. Most of them are also the result of the sexual revolution, the upheavals in society in the sixties, the e-revolution, the turning away from mass manufacture in this country.
What I mean to say is that I am racking my brain and I can’t think of a single friend who grew up without at least one of these handicaps: single parent; borderline poverty or extended periods of poverty; unemployment of one or both parents; a serious health/addiction/etc issue in the household. I don’t have any friend who attended college (about half my friends) who didn’t have issues THERE, often graduating in debt and by the skin of his teeth.
I don’t think my friends are that strange for the majority of Americans of any color in the last 40 years. Maybe they’re Odd, but in this, from overheard conversations and my contact with the “normal world” (I wear gloves) I think they’re dead center normal.
Then there’s my generation. We graduated in 1980 when there were no jobs. I had more friends working temp jobs than finding “real ones.” Then things stabilized till the early 2000s when… Let’s say I know one man who works in computers and has been continuously employed since 2001. My husband. All the rest are working for six months, laid off six months…
And while computers (which seems to occupy most of my generation) is traditionally unstable, the other occupations don’t seem to be beds of roses. MOST of my friends go through cyclic periods of unemployment. This is what happens in the middle of technology upheavals.
Note I didn’t say my white friends. This happens to ALL my friends.
Unless my commenter on facebook is of a rarely privileged breed, surely the same happens to HIS friends. So why would he think that white males have no history, that they’re all alike, having pledged fraternities and joined country clubs? How can any human being, alive in the 21st century think that?
They can’t. Which is why I told you to notice that “LOL”.
None of the people who harp on “white privilege” or talk about “diversity” when they mean diversity of external characteristics CAN follow their own reasoning down the rabbit hole.
Even a moderately intelligent person, with more than room temperature IQ would get that if you think putting someone of a different color/genitalia on a panel makes it more valid, you must assume everyone of the same color/genitalia thinks and works exactly the same. In which case you have to admit you’re sexist and racist. The worst kind, the kind who dehumanizes the “other.”
But what the commenter was doing was not thinking.
When I was very little I would pray a lot. It wasn’t real prayer. It was just a repetition of familiar words/rhythms to stop anxiety. On occasion I also counted, or recited Shakespeare. You see, I hated meeting new people or being in unfamiliar circumstances. This calmed me down and stopped me thinking whether people liked me, whether I’d done something wrong, wether–
This is all these “comments” are. The commenter is stopping himself thinking. The “LOL” is not an infallible clue but it’s close to it. Whenever you hear a liberal shibboleth thrown in at random, it is almost always followed by “LOL” which is even more out of place, and definitely a mark of “I’m saying this to stop the bad thoughts, bad thoughts, bad thoughts.”
Now what in particular about the above video caused such a strong reaction, I don’t know. If I had to guess I’d imagine that the commenter is so annoyed at Hillary as a candidate that he can’t allow himself to even hear something mildly non accusatory about Trump, without doing his own private exorcism.
Me? I don’t care. I don’t have a dog in this presidential race. A pox on both their houses, etc. BUT even I can see that yeah, on some fronts, if only because he’s not used to the GOVERNMENTAL kind of power Trump might be the least of two evils. (Then there’s his unfathomablity. That’s a discussion for another time, and one I don’t intend to have.)
The point is that normal, functional adults discuss things and are willing to take things into account and maybe even change their opinions somewhat.
Children, the indoctrinated and our so called intelligentsia, OTOH, cannot afford to think. Thinking would reveal all the cracks in their self-contradictory philosophy
So they just scream things about race and gender and LOL.
Not realizing that here on the streets we are every day less and less amused at being told to eat cake.