Je Suis So Tired of this Sh*t

Lately I’ve found myself growling at the tv.  This is part of the reason that, in the US I watch almost no TV.  Okay, okay, I confess, it’s because at one time I threw a house slipper at the TV and Dan decided he should stop watching it when I was around, because next time I might throw a snow-boot.

But that was campaign speeches. This is the news.

My parents have, as many older people who live in a house with no one young, developed the habit of always having the tv on in the background. Possibly to compensate for no longer having teens tromping up and down the stairs on their steel-toed boots.

I’m willing to take any number of Brazilian soap operas (though some day I might write “little known things about how life works according to Brazilian soap operas” post.) I’m even willing to take commercials for the Communist Party’s shinding, called Party Forward.  (Forward being a slogan of the communist party throughout every land. Just as a point of information for ya’ll.)

It’ s the news that get to me.  And we’ll roll our eyes over Trump telling foreign journalists he’s fit to rule (RULE?  Mr. Trump, these are my middle fingers) because he has German blood (yeah, that) which is annoying but not, really, the end of the world, or nothing we hadn’t heard in his unguarded moments.  (I was just hoping we’d have a president who loves America for what she is and doesn’t wish to fundamentally transform her.)

What is getting to me, and gets me muttering and snarling at the TV is the mayor of Nice talking about the amazing outpouring of “help” and how people marched together, shoulder to shoulder, in solidarity and–

And I start growling “And what the hell does that DO?”

Fortunately I found my dad has evolved in past years, to mostly agree with me even on crazy stuff, so he’s right along with me, snarling.

Here’s the thing, I have lots of sympathy for the victims, and yes, I think we need to unite and do something.  But the something is not marching together or mourning together, or wearing a ribbon for this, saying a prayer for that, lighting a candle for the other thing.

My friend, Dave Freer has a post on facebook about his view:

I try not to talk about politics here on my page. But… Nice.
Je suis sick of all this shit.

Seriously, we were all Charlie Hebdo, we were all Bataclan/Paris, we were all Orlando…

We put flags on facebook profiles, we lit candles, we prayed.
And they simply do it again. And again.

In Nice, again, an Islamic fanatic targeted random people (who are non-combatants, children, and possibly of any religion or nation). They were not shields for any weapon, nor were they even necessarily foes. It was intended to terrorize, to kill and to maim. To intimidate, to lead towards a future the fanatics believe they will win.
I weep for the victims.

But…

We need to accept that there is a problem. That Je suis talk and candles are not fixing it. Repeating the gestures may do no harm, but it has not stopped the problem recurring. And it’s like a pressure-cooker with an inadequate steam valve. These are little spurts of nasty steam. We either take the heat off – or it will blow. And, if like me, you (or parents or parents parents even) were migrants – we need to realize who will get burned. It has happened before, and will happen again – those who are different, who are new, who have not become a part of the mainstream – even the innocent – will be punished.

I am Australian. I was born elsewhere, Australia took me in, has given me –and my wife and kids a place to live, to be safe, to thrive. I love this country and its people for this. They owe me nothing, they gave me a chance: I owe them everything. I do my best to show that love: to fit into the culture, the language, the way people dress, to learn the songs, the poetry and the history. To volunteer, to help out – to pay back and to pay forward.

And that is all I would like to say to migrants, of any kind anywhere and everywhere. If the country you find yourself in is where you wish to be, work hard at loving it, its people and its ways, and at showing that. If you cannot bring yourself to love it more than you love your old ways… then leave peacefully and by your own choosing and move to somewhere that you can love, while you have the choice.

Don’t talk about ‘je suis’. Talk is cheap and easy to disbelieve. Do things that people can see, feel and understand. That way they will know ‘you are one of us’. Tomorrow I am  going to go out and do just that.

Yesterday my parents took me and my family to a restaurant they love, where they serve traditional food, including roast cabrito, one of my very favorite American foods, but cumbersome to make in their kitchen particularly in the heat of summer.

Our entry with gigantic men — my dad was considered a giant here at six feet, and my sons and nephew all top that — called attention, and it didn’t escape the keen senses of our server that we were speaking English.  So, she said “You live abroad” and my dad said “my daughter, son in law and grandsons do.”

She asked me “England?”  I said “United States.”

She said, with a smile, “Which one do you like better? There or here?”

Now, I know there are polite lies, but there are things I don’t lie about.  I said, “There.” She asked again, looking disbelieving and I gave the same answer again.

After the order and things were settled, she started asking questions, starting with, “Why don’t the young men speak Portuguese? How can they return if they don’t.”

My dad said, “she’s been there 30 years.  There’s no plans of returning.”

 And the waitress looked shocked, staring at me, “you weren’t being sarcastic when you said there?”

I said, “no.”

She looks confused examines Dan and says, “Is your husband foreign?”  I said “yes” and she said “Oh, so that’s why you don’t want to return.”

And my mom said, “Oh, no.  She’s the one who’d never let any of them return.  she’s more patriotic for them than he is.”

And I thought “Hot damn, mom gets it.”

Here’s the thing: acculturation is not easy.  As much as I was in love with American ideals, getting used to the way people do things every day; getting used to the way people interact, when I came from a highly formal gender/class divided society; getting used to the food; learning the history; learning the popular culture; learning why and how and when things were done — all that was massively difficult.  Not intellectually but at a baseline, gut level.  It was important and difficult, and sometimes I felt as if I were being mentally torn about.  There weren’t many days the first five years that I wasn’t homesick to the point of pain for the familiar sights and the big city I’d left behind, while I was stuck in Rock Hill South Carolina.  (And yes, part of that is that I am and will always be a city girl.)

If there were any way to avoid acculturating while reaping the benefits of being American, I’d have done it.  But I wanted to BE American and so I put myself through untold pain.

And this was me, immigrating from a at worst second and a half world country.

Immigrants from the Middle East to the west face a much larger hurdle.  Their ways are far more different than they encounter.  Their religion AND THEIR CULTURE promotes a sense of superiority, which is nonetheless negated by everything around them.  And no one asks them to fit in, and everyone tells them they should hold on to their oh, so precious culture.

The amazing thing is not that they kill.  The amazing thing is that the streets aren’t awash in blood.

I still think it’s easier to deal with the problem where it is, instead of allowing millions of third worlders into the first world, to replace the kids the boomers refused to have.

BUT if you must let them — or some of them — in, it’s important to remember this: you should make it more uncomfortable and painful for them NOT to acculturate.  Fit in, pitch in or get out.  And don’t let the door hit you on your multi-culti tail. Most of the countries you come from are richer in natural resources than the first world, and no, the first world isn’t rich because it steals those resources.  That’s a fairy tale for elderly Marxist spinsters.

The first world is rich because of a culture that encourages work, respect for private property, respect for other’s choices in matters of religion and private life.

And unlike what those elderly Marxist spinsters told you, culture isn’t hereditary.  You can learn it and unlearn it.  Sure, it hurts but at the end of it you’ll be a productive member of the most productive parts of the world, whose inventions have transformed the globe and raised most people above abject poverty in historical terms.

Learn.  Change.  Or get the hell out and back to your mud-wallow.

And if the Western world wants to survive it will learn to shout this in the face of all incoming “refugees.”

Or die.

That’s the choice, ribbons, marches, and petty solidarity have no place in it.

 

 

327 responses to “Je Suis So Tired of this Sh*t

  1. “That Je suis talk and candles are not fixing it. Repeating the gestures may do no harm, but it has not stopped the problem recurring. And it’s like a pressure-cooker with an inadequate steam valve. These are little spurts of nasty steam. We either take the heat off – or it will blow.”

    This. I am so sick of Islamist atrocities and the BLM (Black Lies Matter) crowd encouraging the murder of police officers that I can’t even bring up the energy to blog about it. The pressure is rising and when it explodes, perhaps the surviving Islamists and BLMers will regret it. If they survive.

    • The pressure is rising and when it explodes, perhaps the surviving Islamists and BLMers will regret it. If they survive.

      Yes, it will not be very pretty for either side, but especially theirs. This is still a Jacksonian nation in the middle.

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      Half a year ago, I was outraged, and could muster the force to say that this was shit of which I did not approve.

      Yesterday I could not even interest myself in posting a tasteless remark about Baton Rouge here.

    • I figure we go the Father Brown housekeeper route:
      If you convey to a woman that something ought to be done, there is always a dreadful danger that she will suddenly do it.

  2. You pretty much nailed it there Sarah. I knew quite a few Mexican immigrants growing up in West Texas. Quite a few went on to become quite successful because they went whole hog Texan American. Spoke English with a great Texas accent, made damn sure the kids spoke it as their first language, and made sure they did well in school.

    However, most of these first generation immigrants kept the old Mexican peasant culture, which meant for the most part, they were stuck at a low level at poverty, or borderline poverty. Their kids assimilated a bit more, but most of their grandkids assimilated and integrated into the communities they lived in. The last 20 years however, this cycle has been interrupted, and way too many of the kids and grandkids are still stuck in the old peasant culture that does not value education.

    • I forget what TV program it was on, some news or documentary and a Mexican(?) immigrant mother was asked why she insisted her kids learn English rather than Spanish. Her answer was on the order of “Gardeners speak Spanish. Doctors speak English.”

      • So, notice I didn’t insist the kids speak Portuguese.

        • Weeeeeell, obviously it would be better if people could have both languages as a native language. And being a polyglot would be better still. And some people do a great job code-switching from language to language, with a perfectly beautiful native accent in each one.

          But it does seem like most people only have so much language time and energy to spare, so it is certainly a lot simpler to just say, “Heck with it, we’re speaking English in this house.” It’s a pretty darned proven strategy, in fact.

          • I tried. Sort of. I spoke Portuguese to Robert as a baby with the idea that whatever path he took, it would be an advantage. He ignored it and learned not one word. I did not fight.

            • When The Daughter was an infant and small child I spent a great deal of time around Japanese immigrants. The women would bill and coo over her — in Japanese. I have wondered if this, when she decided to take Japanese in college, contributed to her ability to speak it with a cradle tongue accent.

          • I live in a major international resettlement zone. I believe that at one point we were dealing with forty-six distinct dialects from Laos alone — as well as numerous other languages. The school system in our area realized that there was no way they could ever teach everyone in their native language — even as they transition.

            I have no problem with people choosing to see that their children learn the language of the country from which their family came. ( It is enriching to learn multiple languages. Some research indicates that the sooner you learn a second language the more adept you will be in any language you learn.) But I see this as a choice that should be made by each family in question.

            • I learned English at 14. I make do. It serves my simple purposes.

              • ROTFL — HA! Make do? Serves your simple purposes? Really!?!

                Yes, it does quiet well, you use it with no mean skill. Many of us will add, your use of it serves our purposes too.

              • Anyone who can learn English has my respect. If I spoke another language and tied to learn English I am not sure I could: however, one could make the case that I don’t know English now.

            • I recall reading some years ago that the San Francisco school district was doing multi-lingual education in 26 different languages. It struck me as wrong-headed.

              Related: If naturalized citizens have to demonstrate proficiency in English (however honored in the breach), why do many districts offer Spanish voting ballots?

            • An interesting case of home language then English: Wes Studi is an excellent actor, Viet Nam combat vet, clearly far more intelligent than most actors. The first time I saw him, in the great neglected comedy/horror movie “Deep Rising,” I noted he was clearly a native English speaker, yet there was a trace of some other accent I had never heard. Turns out he is from Oklahoma, pure blood Cherokee, and his family spoke the Cherokee language exclusively at home till little Wes was five and started school. If I had seen his other movies, playing Indians, Crazy Horse for instance, I might have guessed.

              • Don’t tell the current Secretary of State, but the sergeant I worked for most of my two years of active duty was one-quarter Cherokee. She wasn’t taught the language, but her son and cousins were by her (or his?) grandmother. Why did I mention the former senator? Because the sergeant managed to get a Ph.D. in juvenile psychology and a lucrative job in Texas just before her medical retirement (due to an unhealed bone fracture). Oh, her son went to Harvard at 16.

                • I know a couple of registered Cherokee. (About 1/3, due to various fractions.) The brother is a professional tenor, and can pass for everything from white to Arabic. He says he’s in great demand because he’s tall, which is rare in tenors.

                  • Most Cherokees I have known, would pass for white.

                    • Myself also. My best friend in highs school was (I think) a quarter Piute – but she was blond and heavy-set, looked like Geronimo got up in drag as a Wagnerian soprano. Her father and brother though – they looked like the stereotypical Indian – tall, lean, beak-nosed and with high cheekbones. Another high school friend was half Indian (can’t recall which tribe) but she looked it, aside from having pale skin and freckles.

          • sabrinachase

            I have some friends–he’s Swiss, she’s Indian (dot not feather) and they live in France. They decided their “house” language would be English, as that was their best mutual language and the language of science (they are both scientists). Their son speaks flawless English. And French. And probably some others by now 😀

            • I use Casino or Motel to differentiate. Although Joe Biden calls the latter 7-11 Indians.

              • Not Desi?

              • Feather or Dot is the official Hun designation. Of course Huns are well known for their toeing the party line; so you are welcome to use your own designation.

                • I can live with those two. My brother was using the Dot designation yesterday to describe a cruise with a week of curry in the buffet line.

                  • One of my favorite things about cruising is the variet6y of excellent curries on the buffet, given that many of the chefs are from India. All graduates of top notch hotelier schools. I have done behind the scenes tour with two of Carnival’s head chefs, both were from India and both from the same region (Goa IIRC, which I probably don’t). One had been with the company so long that he’d not only sourced all the pizza ovens fleetwide, he was also the person who had designed an electric tandoor for safe use on the ships.

          • Yesterday Daughter asked me how many language I speak (as she was correcting me on the correct German term for daughter). I answered One, Deux, Три, 四.

            Then she asked how many I was fluent in, I responded Zero.

          • BobtheRegisterredFool

            English is my native language, and I had real problems getting fluent in it.

            • Teh Enrgish is hard. 🙂

              • That sounds like a cue for a link to “The Chaos.”

                • My second-favorite* poem!

                  Dearest creature in creation,
                  Studying English pronunciation,
                  I will teach you in my verse
                  Sounds like horse, hearse and worse.

                  And it goes on for over two hundred lines. Wonderful stuff.

                  * Behind If, of course. The Gods of the Copy-book Headings have been relegated to third place.

            • I can make a fool of myself in three languages…I think the best was telling a Montreal cop that he could not speak French.

          • My grandparents were bilingual but raised my father and his brothers to speak English.

      • Sadly today more and more patients do not.

    • Spoke English with a great Texas accent, made damn sure the kids spoke it as their first language, and made sure they did well in school.

      I think that one of the greatest crimes we do in the name of caring is to force people into a second class status by insisting that they should not be encouraged to acculturate. In this country the elite schools and institutions of higher learning teach in English. Most business is carried on in English. The laws are written in English. You don’t learn how to function in your day to day life in English and your life is going to be highly limited.

      • Not just in America. English is the common tongue in science, air traffic control, and any number of other applications.
        In my career with NASA I dealt with many ESA representatives and found that English was not only the language they used to communicate with me, but also with each other, what with them being a mix from all across the EU.

        • In Finnish universities almost all science textbooks are in English. You can’t study sciences unless you know English. And the same goes for almost everything else too, the only big exception, as far as I know, is if your main is something like Finnish language or history.

          • From what I gathered from some coworkers, India is the same at least in engineering.

            • Cheaper, and since the students would need to learn the language anyway in order to be able to communicate internationally, which is pretty much a requirement nowadays, well, not much point for having anything much in our own language, except for popularizing the subject.

              • Makes sense. Plus I figure it would end up a pidgin language anyway with all the tech terms

              • Heh. The main problem I remember having in my student days was trying to remember the Finnish terms – I’d study mostly in English but then had to answer the test questions in Finnish, and sometimes that meant that half of the time I studied I was actually translating the text, and looking for some Finnish language terms which had maybe been mentioned only a couple of times on that class I had missed…

                • One thing I’m glad and grateful I did not have. I have enough issues expressing myself in English.

            • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

              IIRC In India, British English is one of their Official Languages and is sometimes used in meetings because it isn’t anyone’s Birth Language.

              IE To not give anybody the “advantage” of using their Birth Language.

              • That and because there are so many local languages, it is the only thing people have in common. I read a cookbook where the author’s parents were both Brahmins from the same sub-caste but from different parts of India, and they spoke English to each other and to the children.

              • That is *precisely* why English is the official language of Pakistan, and all official documents are in English.

                There are so many regional cultures and languages, it was simpler than starting a war by favoring one particular ethnic group.

                Pretty much the same reasons nations adopted the metric system(s).

        • Problem being, a lot of those representatives are dang positive they speak “Engwiash”, but it isn’t a language recognized by most native English speakers.

          • I run into Americans who think they speak English, but they might as well be trying to communicate by farting and tap-dancing.

            • The Other Sean

              I find that to be the case, too. Some are New Englanders, others are from urban areas where lack of enunciation is an epidemic, and still others drawl so much the words”lighter” sounds like “ladder.”

              • Come to Virginia, we probably have a different dialect every 50 miles you drive. For instance House and Housing are pronounced totally different where I was born.

                • Where is that? I ask because my mom’s from Vernon Hill (in Halifax County) and not only does she pronounce ‘house’ (and any other word withe the ‘ou’ diphthong) in a way that is unique to an area only about 30 miles across, but damn-near unpronounceable to non regional natives. Heck, I was born in Lynchburg and I can’t do it.

              • Do you drink warter?

            • You ought know better than to associate with the Performance Artists.

          • Excuse… ah. Well. There are sections within the city in which I grew up where what they speak can only be termed English by the most generous of terms. Mind you it isn’t any other language, but the dialect has progressed to where it is passing beyond any simple pigeon. There are further complications including new patterns in grammar — one section of the city uses only present tenses.

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      One of the guys I knew at the university was from the younger cohort. Father was from Mexico, and was in cattle here, and the guy spoke very good English.

    • Well, if they can’t keep em as peasants, how do the bastards become aristos?

      • Yep. Remember that Progressivism is nothing more than feudalism with the serial numbers rubbed off.

        • Oh, more than that. In feudalism, the lords had to put their butts on the front lines.

          • Bibliotheca Servare

            THIS! So much this.
            “The government will…” is only different from “The King (or Laird, Prince, Emperor, Khan, etc) will…” because the *king* usually had to risk his life right alongside the lives of his subjects! More or less, at least…not all rulers ris- darn it, this is rhetoric! Imprecision is acceptable!
            *sits on hands to prevent typing an insanely long caveat/explanation that it’s not really that simple* *eye twitches, nose begins to bleed*
            lol.

  3. Christopher M. Chupik

    “We need to accept that there is a problem.”

    The Left’s tactical deployment of debate-terminating clichés like “racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic” have ensured that we’re incapable as a society of acknowledging that. And people continue to die because of it.

    • “Putting a brick on the safety valve stops the whistle, not the ka-boom.” – Orvan Taurus, ox.

    • The epithets are only debate-terminating if you allow yourself to be silenced by them. I refuse to do so. They can shriek them all they want, but if we just laugh in their faces and show the bystanders that they haven’t a rational argument of any sort we defeat them. And then we can work on fixing the real problems.

      • Margaret Ball

        The epithets terminate their side of the debate by giving them an excuse to close their ears and (hypothetical) minds. And these are the people we need to be debating. Our sitting in Sarah’s living room agreeing with each other may cheer us up and give us strength to go on, but… The left’s stranglehold on language means there aren’t any debates, so there aren’t any bystanders.

        And I have no clue what to do about it.

        • You need to be aware that you aren’t speaking to them. They are unreachable. You’re actually speaking to the bystanders listening to the argument, to demonstrate the irrationality of their position.

        • Challenge them with facts. Counter their rants with simple truth.
          As drloss points out, you’re not doing it to change your opponents’ minds they are closed to you. You are making the case for the casual observer who has yet to choose.
          It is in fact best to remain calm and limit the passion of your arguments as, bless their hearts, if you give a lefty progressive enough rope they will most assuredly hang themselves with their own arguments.

          • I do take them to task when they start the name calling. Even something like stupid. I usually suggest they debate the merits of the positions instead of juvenile behavior.
            Like you say, it won’t change their opinions, but it does help the innocent bystanders get a clue.

        • kenashimame

          The left’s stranglehold on language…

          I firmly believe we need to take back the word “liberal” from the leftists.

      • Here’s one trick: whenever someone yells “Black Lives Matter,” don’t say “All Lives Matter,” fire right back at them with: Did Michael Brown’s life matter more than the officer he was attempting to murder?

        That puts the focus right back where it should be, and it’s telling that I have never once gotten a straight answer to that question from any BLM defender to whom I’ve posed it. Most of the responses come in the form of: Wow, just wow, you don’t get it or: I’m waiting for you (me) to break out the phrenology equipment to explain the differences between the races.

      • They have made it clear they want no warning. That is fine.

        When the shtf and they come demanding sanctuary they’ll find I want to give it about as much as they wanted my warnings.

  4. Related

    I’m Tired
    With 52 comments

    Me, too.

  5. Rope. Lamp post. Some assembly required.

    The Western countries are mostly ruled by leftist elites at the moment, but there’s still a lot of the old culture out there. These “migrants” are like a nasty child poking a pit bull with a stick. Eventually, the pit bull will get pissed off.

    If they’re lucky, they might get to go to concentration camps before they’re deported. And those camps will be to protect them from citizens who have Had Enough Of This Shit.

    The Klan and the NSDAP targeted minorities that seldom bothered anyone. What might form in the face of a “clear and present danger” remains to be seen.

    • I read Lone Star Planet by Piper for the first time Saturday.

      I can’t help but think it has the solution we need.

      • That’s always good fun to read!

        Piper’s societies grouped neatly into “authoritatian” and “libertarian.”

        • He may have been a Pennsylvannia man but the moment the converstation about not calling it a replica occurred because that was the honest to God Alamo moved brick by adobe brick to another world I knew he understood Texans.

      • Oh God! Is Scalzi planning on reformatting that from good to drek like he did Fuzzies?

        • “HANGIN’s too good for ‘im!
          BURNIN’s too good for ‘im!
          He should be torn into itty bitty pieces
          and buried ALIVE!”

  6. I’m reminded of that famous (but almost certainly apocryphal) campaign slogan from somewhere in Europe

    The Social Democrats (or Christian Democrats or…) have brought this country to the edge of ruin. We stand on the precipice. Vote communist to take a great step forward

  7. c4c

    • Alex Shishkin

      The slogan might be apocryphal, but there had been a popular joke in USSR, in 1970’s – 1980’s, built along the same lines.

      We were incessantly lectured about the ‘ongoing crisis of capitalism’ and about said capitalism ‘standing on a precipice over an abyss’.

      Well, some Soviet citizen who listened to this crap one too many times to take it anymore, came up with the following:

      ‘Is it true that capitalism is standing on a precipice over an abyss?’
      ‘Yes. And it is looking down at us with great curiosity, trying to figure out – what is it that we are doing down here, on the bottom?’

      • it is looking down at us with great curiosity, trying to figure out – what is it that we are doing down here, on the bottom?

        And trying to understand why we are cutting up our ladders for firewood.

        And trying to figure a way to reach out to us in order to sell us lots of rope.

  8. > Brazilian soap operas

    And Brits watch Australian soap operas, and Spanish-speaking Americans watch Mexican soap operas…

    • Chilean soap operas are awesome. Spanish soap operas too. All soap operas are more entertaining if they come with a time limit, I think.

      I don’t know if anybody here has recently recommended the two seasons of Isabella, about Isabella and Ferdinand, but it’s good fun (especially if you use your Bujold key and cross-reference). Of course it’s European, so there is full frontal nudity in some scenes and a fair amount of anti-Catholicism at points, but overall it’s good. If you watch it through Viki, you can get good English subtitles; but if you watch it through the Spanish network’s website, you will test your Spanish vocabulary!

      • Wait, soap operas with a time limit; please explain. I think there is a least one American soap left with roots that go back to radio days.

        (Let me think: not “The Edge of Night” that’s been off the air for decades; not “Days of Our Lives”–ditto; “As the World Turns”? “General Hospital?” Look, I’m not some totally dissipated n’r do well, and I haven’t worked second or third shift in years (except at home); it’s that my great-aunt who kept me as a child was a big fan. Absolutely nothing to do with Nikki Newman, positively.)

        • I believe you’re thinking of Guiding Light, which started as a radio serial; it’s not on the air any more but didn’t go off that long ago.

          I think when suburbanbanshee was referring to soap operas with a time limit, it was the Spanish language soaps, which I believe operate more like miniseries. Lord knows the American soaps would benefit from that. I’ll admit to having been a fan of General Hospital in my grad student days, but I eventually got tired of the same people having the same relationship disfunction; Vegas could have taken bets on how long it would be until Sonny and Carly flipped the “together again”/”broken up now” switch this time.

          • Hm. That rinse and repeat cycle is the major reason why I could never stand soaps. Or any other series where people keep making the same damn mistakes. Using the same solutions to solve something, on the other hand, like tends to happen in crime series etc, works if the solutions seem even halfway decent. Because that does not make the characters looks overwhelmingly stupid like repeating the same damn mistakes time after time, and often in rather quick succession, while learning nothing, does.

            Maybe I should take a look at some of those Spanish language soaps, you can find some online. Problem of course being that my Spanish skills are very close to non-existent. But I do know a little, very little, but perhaps it might work as a way to learn a bit more…

          • Korean soap operas are length-limited, too. Most TV series run about 12-18 one-hour episodes, some run longer, up to 50 or more. I lost track of one when the count went over 130 (I wasn’t watching that one).

            Most of the series are one season, too, only rarely have I seen any that come back for a second or third season. It’s not a bad thing to avoid running into the state of a lot of domestic series, where the first year or two, or maybe three remain relatively fresh and engaging, while the next several end up recycling earlier ideas, or just start phoning it in.

          • yes, all soap operas in Portugal END.

      • I can still get the gist of a Spanish-language newspaper, but I can’t actually *read* it any more. It has been forty years since third-year Spanish, and other than helping a stranded motorist once, I’ve never used it for anything.

        • The last time I made any use of Spanish was September 11th. My MiL kept coming in, traumatized, as I tried to watch the news that evening (I’d been at work all day), so I finally started flipping channels until I found one she wouldn’t understand.

          They talked a lot about the physical characteristics of the buildings. X many windows, and Y many tons of steel.

        • Professor Badness

          I’ve used my limited Spanish a surprising amount of times between working at Disneyland, the US Census Bureau and my current occupation as a Librarian.
          Most of what I do know came from living in Southern California.
          You never know when you will be forced to dredge up old knowledge in your life.

        • My High School German has come in quite handy in my world travels from the noodle shop in northern Thailand whose owner’s son, the doctor who came in every day for lunch and a check-in, went to school in Hamburg to the convenience shop in Saudi Arabia where the clerk had been a taxi driver in Berlin for five years to introducing myself to the young lady on a ferry boat, an interpreter and translator for the German Bank of Panama, who ended up as my girlfriend there because she was reading an issue of Elle magazine.

    • Stumbled across a delightful Australian TV show with some soap elements. About a family that discovered that they were the reincarnation of the Norse gods. Ran for three seasons. SyFy ran the first season and I was taken enough to seek out the other two off the interwebs.
      The Almighty Johnsons I believe the name was.

      • I think that was from New Zealand. Try looking for “Mirror, Mirror” and “This Is Not My Life.” The first involves time travel, and the second is similar to the British “Life On Mars” series with John Simm.

      • The Almighty Johnsons? Sounds like a set-up for an X-Rated quip.

        Probably on opposite the Wonderful Willies, or that Chinese family drama: The Wonderful Wang?

        I suspect this of being a Fry & Laurie skit,


        or possibly Rowan Atkinson.

      • kenashimame

        The Almighty Johnsons was the name, and it was interesting; though I’ve only seen part of season one.

  9. freddie_mac

    easier to deal with the problem where it is, instead of allowing millions of third worlders into the first world

    Our immigration system is an awful mess, and a few small changes would remove much of the problem (i.e., stop chain migration, focus on how the new immigrants will benefit us/educated, sponsorship by an employer). However, any talk about making these changes is criticized as racist (that’s the objection for everything these days); the idea of reducing/stopping resettlement of refugees/migrants is also racist, etc.

    Then we have problems like the little girl in Idaho, where the authorities appear to be more concerned about the boys involved than the girl who was assaulted, and people wonder why it feels like the pot’s boiling over. Bottom line, from my perspective, it seems like there’s no repercussions when immigrants/migrants/refugees misbehave and they’re protected/cosseted until their bad behavior can’t be hidden anymore (Kate Steinle).

    • When “your” government says to your face that immigrants are more important than citizens are and must be coddled in ways that citizens are not, well, no one should be surprised when the government becomes “them” as opposed to “us,” and treated as such.

    • they’re protected/cosseted until their bad behavior can’t be hidden anymore

      I’ve been saying for years I’d be happy to let illegals comes out of the shadows if I can go into them: more rights, no taxes, “catch and release” police activity, etc.

      Why would anyone want to be a citizen and give all that up to pay taxes and have to follow the law?

      • A friend of mine was living in fairly dire straits in San Diego. The VA was dragging their feet as usual. I suggested he was short and dark enough to pass as “Roberto” instead of “Robert”, and there were plenty of programs in SoCal supporting indigent and illiterate illegals. He was interested, but the VA finally came through before he had to start pretending he no habla ingles.

    • Feather Blade

      I expect that quite a bit of trouble could be averted by disallowing dual citizenship.

      “Born here? To foreign national parents? Alight, choose the kid’s citizenship. Yes, one or the other. Please be aware that if you choose American, the kid can’t go with you when you return to you home country. Because tourist visas only last 90 days. No you can’t stay beyond your visa. He’ll be fine: we have several American families willing to adopt American citizens abandoned by their foreign parents. You don’t even want him to share your citizenship, how is that not abandonment?”

  10. I’m offended by the very notion of dhimmi, and taqiyya. We must resist that or acculturation will fail. without honesty there is no conversation.

    • Don’t forget kitman, tawriya, and muruna.

      Islamic doctrine has a well-developed system of deceit.

      • Which is incompatible with a society based upon general trust. And a poison pill that makes it impossible to really, truly trust any Muslim once you realize how embedded deceit is in the fundamentals of Islam.

        Straight from the Koran:

        But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

        Are they then secure from Allah’s deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah’s deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

        So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

        This is why a number of Christian counterjihadists make a very good argument for identifying Allah with Satan rather than God the Father.

        • Can anyone recommend a book that goes into about the Koran and how awful it is?

          • Well, you could read one of the more truthful translations of the book itself. Of course, there are a great number of purposefully mistranslated versions. (Almost as if there was a deliberate project of deceit…). To save time, look for the “Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades.” It has the virtue of being entertaining and not too long.

          • The book itself is worth a read. Also, the Hadiths are also of near equal importance and weight in Islamic doctrine. That’s where you get a lot of the really abhorrent stuff.

        • Allah was deceptive. Satan is the father of lies.
          If the shoe fits, wear it. Just as a hypothetical mental exercise, imagine Satan wanting to establish a ‘religion’ on Earth. What message would he want to give?

  11. I’m not so sure the ’empty gesture phenomenon’ is so harmless. It gives people the warm fuzzy feeling that they’re actually ‘doing something’ positive and constructive towards a goal, when all they’re really doing is engaging in emotional masturbation–not solving the problem, but simply signalling that “see! I’m one of the right-thinking people! I **CARE**!!!”

    Regarding the news, the constant provocations contained therein, and the propensity for aerial footwear to impact video display screens in preference to other, more drastic and permanent responses, I like to recall a John Wayne movie scene:

    “I know, I know, I haven’t lost my temper in forty years, but pilgrim, you caused a lot of trouble this morning, might have got a lot of people killed! And somebody oughta belt you in the mouth! But I won’t . . . I won’t . . . the hell I won’t!” -John Wayne in “McClintock!”

    • Exactly. It’s just virtue-signalling, plain and simple, and useless as anything more. It might be useful if they said je suis someone who’s going to do something to stop this from happening again, but they never do. It’s enough to show how much they feel for the poor victims (each time) rather than to do something to keep there from being more victims.

      • I would say that except they really believe they’re doing something constructive. Decades ago, Harry Turtledove addressed how that works out in The Last Article

        • Just because they really believe it of course doesn’t make it either true or useful. You’ve got to (figuratively) rub their noses in the uselessness of their gestures to try to make them see the light. Some might, but many aren’t really interested in more than preening and showing what good people they consider themselves to be.

    • Perhaps we should stop the marches and ribbons and go with the Baptist idea; bring a covered dish.
      At least everyone would be well fed when it was over.
      (Covered dishes containing pork would be mandatory.)

      • This is unfortunately apt. This Baptist is having a hard time at the moment, as his denomination is raising virtue signalling to a fine art. I’m a simple man who thinks the emphasis should be on the Great Commission, which was the original point in forming this particular denomination. In all seriousness, I’m been thinking that once my family were Quakers, and we don’t have to stay Baptists. either.

        • You’re not the only one. Part of the “declining church attendance” thing isn’t so much that members no longer want to go to church, but that their church has been converged by SJWs and headed off into fantasyland. They try a couple other local churches, find they’re all much the same, and then finally stay home. Their problem isn’t their religion, but its organization.

          • I wonder what the numbers on ‘home churches’ currently are. Most denominations don’t count those officially because they’re not really official yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were on the rise.

            • The information (often vagueish) that I’ve been getting for the past couple of years is that their numbers have been rising, and accelerating, as time passes. And that it is associated with a lot of different denominations.

            • Bjorn Hasseler

              Plus the non-denominational churches…

              • *fingerwaggle* Thus far every ‘non-denominational’ church has lasted about 5 years before they became a denomination or joined one. (Usually one of the ones claiming to be ‘non-denominational’) It’s enough to make your head hurt.

                • Bjorn Hasseler

                  Um, no. I am familiar with two that are over 30 years old.

                  • Those would be the first I have seen or heard of. Are they actually non-denominational or do they just say it and still affiliate formally with other churches? I’ve seen that to, including doctrinal cross-referencing.

                    • I go to one which has been around much longer than 30 years. Not sure what you mean by affiliate,

                    • Quite a few of the ‘nondenominational’ churches I have been to function, collectively, as a denomination, including deciding on common doctrine and functioning in very specific mutual support, beyond what typically goes on between churches of different denominations in a given place. (Often the various denominations will get together to do bigger projects than the individual churches in an area could manage.) They have the same nit picky doctrines (as opposed to the same broad doctrines that make Christian churches Christian.) Same method of worship. There was even one “non-denominational” group in Hawaii that had their own codified hymnbook and curriculum!

                    • Basically they act like a denomination. They interact like churches of the same denomination. But they still insist they’re not a denomination because they’re not one of the ‘official’ ones.

                    • Erg, accidentally hit post.

                      My church does a Vacation Bible School with several of the other local churches, and puts on outdoor service every summer with them, not sure if that is what you consider affiliating or not. If so they affiliate with a Lutheran, a Seventh day Adventist, and another community, non-denominational church.

                    • No, the affiliating I”m talking about is more formalized. Most of the towns I’ve been in (the smaller the more common this is) will have either a VBS circuit or joint ones.

                    • I’ve known of quite a few non-denominational churches by both their definition and yours, then that have been around for fifty to a hundred years. They all happen to be “community churches” in small communities, but they have been in those communities for a long time, and don’t have a hierarchy any higher than the deacons/elders/church board/pastor of that particular church.

                      On the other hand, I also know of a couple that have expanded to having half a dozen churches in different neighboring communities; which I understand you would consider becoming a denomination.

                    • Bjorn Hasseler

                      Completely independent. Own doctrinal statements. The congregation has elders. The pastors typically have pastor friends outside the congregation who are accountability partners, but those friends have no say or power within the congregation.

            • While I don’t oppose them, this gets into scary territory. The same for non-denominational or Independent Baptist. It’s comes down to a matter of what doctrine is being taught and accountability.

              • Home churching? Like home schooling? That if some try to remove things from the people, the people remove themselves from that influence as much as they can?

                • The danger isn’t in a home church – home churches were the first churches, and are still with us in places where Christians are heavily persecuted. Nor are home churches necessarily independent of a denomination. The problem is when any congregation becomes independent of other believers, there is a lack of accountability. With a denomination you at least get a “brand” and know what to expect.

              • Yeah, but you get that problem everywhere. My own church broke away from the Presbyterian Church of the USA (One of the sub-groups under the Presbyterian denomination… which is kind of finger waggly because there IS no over all governance of the Presbyterian denomination above Grand Presbytery level.) When they said that each presbytery (the next step down and the step between them and the individual churches) would decide which parts of the bible were biblical. The Methodists have issues at times, usually kept in line by (Ironically) the international Methodist comunity. There IS oversight there. But there are churches who go ‘screw you’ and teach all sorts of wierd things anyway, and don’t get me started on the vagaries of the catholics out here (especially in regards to the Mexican churches). I’d probably get lynched. And THEY have the Pope to keep them in line and the most structure.

                When push comes to shove it has always come down to Joe Blow Christian to sit down with the bible and know what he’s talking about and actually be interested in understanding what’s there not what he wants to be there, nor what the preacher wants to tell him should be there. Good preachers welcome such members because they keep things stable and heading in more or less the right direction.

                • But there are churches who go ‘screw you’ and teach all sorts of wierd things anyway, and don’t get me started on the vagaries of the catholics out here (especially in regards to the Mexican churches). I’d probably get lynched. And THEY have the Pope to keep them in line and the most structure.

                  Pope, heck, we’ve got binding teachings that stop the Pope from doing what he wants! Doesn’t stop the “more Catholic than the Pope” folks from ignoring binding teaching to substitute their own. (Say, like that D&D is evil, but executing infants at will for possible genetic defects isn’t.)

                  If you have any good sources on those “oh yeah we’re totally Catholic” sub groups, could you email them to me at my user name on gmail?
                  I’m working on an article (…blog type….) about that “Saint Death” cult, the one with a patron saint of doing explicitly non-Catholic things who in some versions gives you magic powers, and I’d love stuff I won’t find on my own luck.

                  • Unfortunately nothing written. The most egregious one that was in my mind was from the Mexican Catholics. My last church had several ministries in Mexico… where they have raised the Virgin Mary to a higher station than her Son pretty prevelently. To the point that one of the guys that is now a missionary in the region had only even heard of Jesus after he met a protestant missionary.

                    The rest is almost exclusively personal encounters trying every church (without regard to denomination) in the area at various duty stations looking for somewhere faithful. (Varying degrees of success.) Unfortunately anecdote are insufficient data.

                    • ‘S all good. Folks taking shiny bits from Catholicism for their own thing since before anybody ever used the term “universal church.”

                      Just not “cool” to write about it– and good luck finding any sort of in-depth look into voodoo type stuff that takes the Saints that isn’t a “the horrible evil White Religion forced them into hiding” stuff.

                    • Got to thinking last night– did you ever SEE any if the icons of the Virgin?

                      Theory, based on the most popular image of the lady being the Lady of Guadalupe.

                      Now, that apparition was hugely symbolic and had big impact because of the symbols used*– the Marian Apparitions almost always aimed right at the folks in the area (same way she’ll be speaking the local language) and the whole setup was heavy with their symbolism.
                      (explained here: http://www.olgaustin.org/symbolism.shtml )

                      However, since it did use the symbolism of the Aztecs, that means that she could be hijacked by the same group– and Tepeyac was previously the site of a female Aztec goddess. (disagreements on which, it’s not like the Spanish were taking too many notes on why the Aztecs were…well, doing what they’re famous for)

                      It seems like it would be fairly easy for a rather evil synergy to show up from that.

                      BUT

                      This is all based off of I’m-almost-asleep thoughts.

                      * I’ve always disliked that image, and was oddly reassured to find out I could attribute it to some sort of cultural symbolism clash; contrast with Our Lady of La Vang, which I find deeply appealing. Utterly irrational, and no reflection on the Lady involved. 😀

                    • Hmm … I’ve always been OK with the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe, even knowing that she took some attributes of a goddess in the Aztec pantheon. One of those things, I expect. But then I am a heretical old-school Lutheran, anyway,

                    • I only learned about who that apparition was aimed at recently– this year, I think.

                      Was always taught it was aimed at a rather generic poor farmer Mexicans, which is part of why I felt bad. Besides that it’s Mary.
                      But if she was talking to a totally different and rather alien to my culture? Then it’s different. It’s more of a “cool if it DOES click with you” thing– it’s like how my husband being annoyed by the Japanese “I am a female talking around a male so suddenly my voice is an octave higher” thing, just a matter of taste.

                      In slightly different terms– it’s the same way that folks making a “military appeal” that assumes an Army background often fall flat with myself and other sailors. It’s not like it’s bad, it’s just different.

                    • Oh, dang it.

                      Now you’ve got me wondering what the visions and dreams of Mary that keep being reported in the Middle East look like, and sound like; the only standard I’ve heard is “lady dressed in blue.”

                    • The Bene Gessertt has done their work. well.. 😉

                    • I very much agree with your husband, that is highly irritating to me, also.

                • Oh yes. I got an earful this year about how the African Methodists were either saving or “holding back” the United Methodist Church. If anything I think the African representatives have a better argument, since they’re the ones suffering for their faith (at the moment) and are arguing that this is NOT the time to go changing some pretty basic foundational teachings. OTOH I’m still irked at both the UMC and PC(USA) for the last rounds of hymnal changes, so I’m probably not a good person to poke about that sort of thing. 🙂

                  • You’re not the only one upset about the hymnal changes. I’m also inclined to favor the African Methodists. Since the ‘modernizing’ tends to kill churches quick fast and in a hurry as PC(USA) is finding as they loose members and churches. (Mostly to the Evangelical Presbyterian set.)

        • Southern Baptist?

          • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

            I would guess so but there are American Baptist congregations that have gotten into “Liberal Virtue Signaling”. 😦

          • Southern Baptist. The issue isn’t doctrinal nor politically liberal or conservative. Oh, I’ve heard it framed by some who go to SBC churches as liberal, but there was a point in the 1960s and 1970s that it was maybe more politically and religiously liberal than now. No, the issue is ignoring what’s important for side issues. In other words, virtue signaling.

            As is usually the case, there is no advantage in it. Most of the time, when someone doesn’t like a denomination, it’s due to doctrinal issues, real or perceived, with how they were treated by members of that denomination a close second. It’s not going to be due to side issues. Worse is when virtue signaling addresses something no one was aware of, or just wasn’t on radar in the first place.

            I could really go on a screed, and this isn’t the place for it. It’s also a bit difficult to explain because the SBC is a coalition of churches instead of one organization with a strict hierarchy, and there’s large variation. But that this all comes up for vote and is passed says it’s pretty widespread. And if they are so concerned about falling membership, maybe they should put more of a focus more on existing members, like they to.

            But I’ve probably said too much already.

        • The Church, being comprised of People, often falls prey to that which G.K. Chesterton noted — ‘The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.’

          Thus we find the hollow church as mocked by Oscar Wilde, one in which the rituals (more or less) have been maintained as obscurely reassuring but the Faith has been abandoned as too great an inconvenience.

          Frivolous folk commonly conclude Wilde was ridiculing the Faith when, in fact, it was Faith’s absence he was pointing out.

          • Anytime you have a group of people you’re going to have less than perfection. And more than a few have ended up following a preacher instead of Jesus, and were hurt when the preacher turned out to be something other than he portrayed himself to be, or just human like everyone else.

          • *inkling* Guessing that’s a common complaint against the High Anglican folks?

            Picking at a common theme I’ve seen/heard of in English writing, though it gets swiped by a lot of the lazier over here.

            • More in the manner of a recurring problem. William Wilberforce’s 18th/19th Centurycampaign to end slavery was a result of his falling under the influence of Methodist preacher George Whitefield, the Wesley brothers and, later, John “Amazing Grace” Newton. While the Methodists were disdained as “excessive” in their zeal and dangerous in their doctrine of “salvation through faith alone” they were also easily dismissed as unfashionable. The conversion of Wilberforce to their doctrine added a fashionable member of the intelligentsia and greatly fueled their acceptance in the nation.

              But I am confident you are familiar with that era of revival. It is a truism that successful societies often sow the seeds of their own destruction as they abandon the ethos which fostered their strength. It is a tale as old as the Romans and before, and history shows that it is a cycle, successful negotiation of which can lead to rebirth and greater growth of a nation.

              • I was looking more at the “all the smells and bells and rituals but no faith” thing, when that’s something that is rather thin on the ground– but you can’t turn around without elbowing a group that is “focused on the TRUE meaning of Christianity, not all the symbols.” The rate at which that true meaning lines up with the leaders impulses of the moment is an exercise in depression.

                • Actually, I am thinking it is getting rather thicker on the ground, precisely because of your last sentence. Rather than focusing on faith and following God’s teachings (ie, the true meaning of Christianity) they focus on the leaders impulses and the current PC fads, making all the appropriate noises meanwhile.

                • It is a common problem, and has been for centuries because it’s easier to go through the motions without thought. This happens in all denominations. It becomes familiar. Even someone who offers a prayer that’s not in any prayer book can find it becoming rote over time, hastily recited, more out of habit than anything else.

                  In the end it becomes a type of virtue signalling. Shallow, without meaning. Lukewarm.

                  • But the archetype is never “insufficient consideration of the Mysteries of Faith,” it’s “the entire thing from top to bottom has nothing but Going Through The Motions and nobody even knows why they do them.”

                • Bearcat:

                  They focus on fads and external things because these are easier than introspection of why things are cold, and usually they’ll look for the fault in the congregations rather than themselves. Again, this is something that extends across all denominations.

              • Bjorn Hasseler

                Another member of British society in this group was Selina Hastings, the Countess of Huntingdon. Among other things, she helped the Clapham Sect, a group of reformers. One of them was Granville Sharp, who is usually associated with Greek grammar and abolitionism (Sharpsburg, Sierra Leone), but you can also find Scalia referencing his right to bear arms arguments in the footnotes of DC v Heller.

            • I’ve heard it’s like more often as a complaint against either Catholics* or Mormons. But then again I’m not familiar with any High Anglican folk, they are rather thin on the ground in this area.

              *Most likely because Catholics and Mormons are the two common faiths in the area with a higher degree of rituals, not necessarily a higher percentage of hypocrites, thus the complaint is easier applied to them. Hypocrites of other denominations/faiths, are more likely to have different disparagements aimed at them.

              • Oh, I get it seen MADE a lot– but when you go check the substance, it usually means “they didn’t do what I think they should,” not “they didn’t do what THEIR RELIGION says they should.”

                If you’re gonna be lazy about religion, the rites and stuff that ‘doesn’t matter’ is a much better thing to skimp on than ‘this is why we do any of this at all.’ Like gutting the Mass part of Christmas for parties.

                • The last time Christmas fell on Sunday, I drove past a Baptist church that had canceled services. You’ll probably make of that the same thing we did.

                  • Oddly enough, what I make of that is that there’s a story.

                    Contrast with the parish I grew up in, where I’ve complained frequently about how the Sunday before Christmas, the priest turned over the sermon to his father to nag the group for money for the illegals over the hill.

                    • Yeah, that would irk me also. I used to occasionally go to Mass at a small little Catholic church with an older friend. While not Catholic, I would go with my friend because he was, and the priest was preaching out of the same bible I read, after all. That priest of that little church (had pew room for less than fifty people, and was only ever about half full when I was there) always preached a heck of a good sermon, on the other hand when my friend came over here to visit me around Christmas one time, we went to a Christmas Eve mass at a large Catholic church in the nearest city. That experience makes me wonder if your parish priest had a brother, because I swear his father gave the sermon I heard that night.

                    • The number of hoops that have to be jumped through– or protections to prevent exactly this kind of abuse, depending on where you’re standing– is mind boggling. I know that the guy at my folks’ parish could get permission for it if he asked, going off of the environment when I was a teen, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t even ask.

                      The head priest at our parish isn’t a great public speaker, and frequently he’ll spend a lot of extra time telling you he’s trying to hurry and doesn’t have much time. 😀 But he’s obviously sincere, and it’s always relevant. He’ll TALK about that day’s readings, the stuff that the Pope or Bishops have asked us to talk about, or current feast days; on baptisms he’ll talk about that.

                      It’s just infuriating.

                    • ” and frequently he’ll spend a lot of extra time telling you he’s trying to hurry and doesn’t have much time”

                      The church where I grew up had a pastor that routinely went 30-45 minutes over on his sermon. When he left/was fired, we had an interim Pastor that had served and worked at a Christian University for a couple of decades. He would look at the clock, say, “it’s five til noon, I better wrap this up,” summarize his sermon in two to three sentences and close in prayer. He was used to an environment, where when your hour was up, everybody got up and left, because they had classes to attend. 🙂 It was quite refreshing.

                    • And yes, sincerity makes up for a lot of deficiencies. My current pastor is probably not what most would consider a great public speaker, but he is sincere, and very down to earth, with a knack for getting people to relate to his message. I suspect he wouldn’t have quite the knack in less rural environment, but I could be wrong.

              • This might irk my fellow Baptists, but I see some put as much emphasis on rite within Protestant churches. My father, in his teens, was much put out by a local preacher who wanted him to go through the ritual of joining the church and never once inquired about his spiritual condition. To say more gets into specific doctrines and maybe arguments and such isn’t the point. The thing is, no one denomination has a monopoly on this sort of behavior.

        • I think the bible passage I most frequently remind my fellow Catholics of is the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares. With the Wise and Foolish Virgins a close second.

      • Jewish here – can we do brisket in a nice white wine sauce instead?

        • sabrinachase

          While usually agnostic, I temporarily identify as Jewish in the presence of a nice brisket 😀

        • The Other Sean

          I’ve never tried brisket with white wine sauce, but I can attest that various barbecue sauces, au jus, and creamy horseradish sauce all work quite well. I suspect a variety of beer or red wine based sauces would also go well. Brisket can be served so many ways, too – on sandwich in shredded or strip form, like a steak, over salad, shredded and mixed with salad or pasta…. mmmmmmmm. So very many options.

        • Brisket is always welcome at pot lucks. Though I recommend staying away from the beans. Baked beans are rarely kosher at a pot luck. Bacon is a common flavoring.

          • The Other Sean

            Alas, as the brisket discussion continues, I started salivating over the thought of brisket. Then I remembered that the local BBQ place is closed on Mondays. 😦

        • I will note that pigs have briskets, as do most other animals, so you might have to specify. But I have no problem with any red meat you wish to bring.

          • Remember- It’s pork- the other white meat.

            • I believe Mathew had a problem with said white meat*, which is why I said I didn’t have a problem with him bringing any red meat of choice.

              *To the best of my knowledge, no white meat comes from animals with cloven hooves.

      • “Perhaps we should stop the marches and ribbons and go with the Baptist idea; bring a covered dish.”

        Perhaps a canning kettle? To Ramadan?

        Hey! I’m just trying to acculturate.

  12. I now want to stand up and cheer, Sarah.

  13. I’m the son of immigrants who were themselves children and grandchildren of immigrants, and one of the traditions all those family lines handed down was – this is your country now. My great-great-grandfather on my father’s side immigrated to Peru from Spain’s Basque country (which speaks a non-Indo-European language); he refused to teach Basque to his children, asserting that to do so would divide them from the people of their new country. My maternal grandfather, from Sicily, did the same when he made it to Peru on the eve of World War Two: his seven daughters and sons grew up speaking Spanish.
    As far as I’m concerned, when you immigrate (as opposed to being a guest worker, here only to make some money and then get the f out), you are agreeing to adapt to your new country. If you insist on your new country adapting to your culture, you aren’t an immigrant. You are an INVADER.

    • “Oh, you don’t like ‘Illegal immigrant’? Fine, ‘Criminal Invader’ is more correct anyway.”

    • Also, my grandfather, I have been told, would correct anyone trying the “correct German” pronunciation of the family name. He insisted it was the most Americanized version of it of all the ways I have heard it said – there are at least four.

      • It’s like the plural of “radius.” While spelled identically to the Latin word, where the plural is “radii”, it’s an English word, and we don’t form plurals that way…

        I admit I still twitch a bit when I hear people talking about “two deers”, but, really, who needs any more irregular English structures?

      • Mark Steyn relates the tale of his arguments with the BBC pronunciation mavens

        A German Jew, Kurt Weill left Berlin when the Nazis came to power and, after brief sojourns in Paris and London, eventually arrived in America. When Life described him, in 1947, as a German composer, Weill wrote to protest:

        I do not consider myself a ‘German composer’. The Nazis obviously did not consider me as such either, and I left their country (an arrangement which suited both me and my rulers admirably) in 1933. I am an American citizen.

        And no equivocating, hyphenating multiculti mumbo-jumbo either. From 1936 on, he spoke and wrote only in English – even to his wife, Lotte Lenya. He Americanized his name, too. Whenever I used to discuss Weill on the BBC in London, their dread Pronunciation Unit would insist that he be called “Koort Vile”. In vain, I would point out that the man himself, who’s surely entitled to a say in the matter, pronounced it, from the moment he arrived in New York, Curt While; that his lyricists and other Broadway contemporaries all refer to him as Curt While; and that Maxwell Anderson begins his lyric to Weill’s first American pop standard, “September Song” (1938), with a sly play on his composer’s name:

        Oh, it’s a long, long while
        From May to December…

        The “long while” is in contrast to Anderson’s writing partner: a curt while.

        A man’s name is as central to his identity as you can get, but, since his premature death, even that’s been taken away from Weill. In a remarkable act of cultural appropriation, he was in effect posthumously extradited to Berlin and reGermanicized – as the in-house composer for the decadent vamping soundtrack of Weimar. The composer’s personal and professional efforts to assimilate were in vain: He worked with Ira Gershwin, Ogden Nash, Alan Jay Lerner; he wrote musical comedies for Mary Martin and Danny Kaye. “He was very interested in money,” sneered the conductor Otto Klemperer. “He got too involved in American showbusiness and all the terrible people in it.”

        To listen to twits like Klemperer, you’d think that Weill, torn between the devil and the deep blue rinse of Broadway matinee ladies, should have stuck with Hitler as the lesser evil. Better a death camp in the Fatherland than a camp death on Broadway. To such critics, Bertolt Brecht got it right: He loathed America, and couldn’t wait to get back home and found the Berliner Ensemble. Poor old Weill wanted to be part of the Irving Berliner Ensemble, part of the glorious American tradition of Kern, Gershwin, Porter and Rodgers. And he came close, not only with “September Song” but with “Speak Low” and “Lost In The Stars” – all three songs recorded by Sinatra. But in the end he never sounded more American than when, nine years after the composer’s death, Bobby Darin put a hey-ma-I’m-swingin’ Sinatra vocal to a Louis Prima shuffle and made a Vegas uber-showstopper out of a gloomy Berlin cabaret ballad.
        http://www.steynonline.com/7344/mack-the-knife

        You will notice Steyn admitted his arguments were unheeded.

        • > Klemperer

          I think his son became more famous, at least in the USA.

          • Werner?

            As a young man he served in the Army during WWII, serving in the

            “Army’s Special Services unit, spending the next years touring the Pacific entertaining the troops. At the war’s end, he performed on Broadway before moving into television acting.

            “Klemperer was also a violinist and an accomplished concert pianist. He broadened his acting career by performing as an operatic baritone and a singer in Broadway musicals. He can also be heard as the Speaker in Arnold Schoenberg’s Gurre-Lieder, in a 1979 live performance with the Boston Symphony Orchestra.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Klemperer

            In the course of an extensive and distinguished film career he accepted the role of a certain colonel in a WWII set comedy series, “agree[ing] to the part only on the condition that “the character] would be portrayed as a fool who never succeeded” — garnering a best supporting actor nomination every year the series was on, winning the Emmy twice,

            Clearly he did not share his father’s disdain for commercially lucrative employment, appearing in character as Col. Klink on Batman and The Simpsons.

    • Even long term guests make efforts. My dad’s family were missionaries in Korea for over 100 years. They spoke Korean fluently (though my dad has been in the US for 40ish years now, and has forgotten most of his). They understood the culture, they assimilated quite a bit (to the point I had to actually consciously think about my body language as a kid because I picked up a wierd mish mash between American and Korean body language just from contact with my folks.)

  14. Regarding reactions to Nice, I think then end of this article -http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/need-tackle-attacks-like-one-nice-root/ – speaks for a lot of people

    They want such people to admit – as many of the rest of us would admit – with burning concern and shame that they have a big problem on their hands which they need help in solving. Even now very few Muslim public figures are willing to do this. In a recent interview with Al-Jazeera the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, was asked about how to tackle ‘Islamophobia’. His response suggested that the newspapers and general public simply have to be corrected and re-educated about the facts.

    Here is a different suggestion: do everything you can to stop people called Mohammed committing mass slaughter in Europe on a bi-monthly basis. Get the hatred out of the mosques and the books, get the bigotry out of the community and the slightest tolerance of it identified as a major part of the problem. Of course most Muslims can’t do anything themselves to stop somebody like last night’s attacker carrying out such a deed, but they can at least have the decency to look like they’re taking part in the kind of criticism and introspection the rest of us would take part in if someone sharing even a jot of our identity had carried out such an attack.

    It’s not a wholesale solution, but it would be a start.

    • “Get the hatred out of the mosques and the books, get the bigotry out of the community and the slightest tolerance of it identified as a major part of the problem.”

      He stumbled upon the root of the problem, but is projecting his western mindset upon them. Sarah nailed that here. You cannot have as much murder, strife, terror, and destruction as exists within the Islamic world and its expanding borders without a significant number of people who are sympathetic to the jihadists.

      A doctrine which produces a few million radicals also had tens of millions of enablers.

      • And the core of the root, one that places people who want to remain Muslims but also Americans in a bind. The Koran cannot be changed or reinterpreted. Every word came straight from Al’lah [the G-d] to Mohammed. For a whole bunch of Muslims, to even suggest that perhaps the sword verses can be ignored, or that G-d now wants people to behave in a different way, is absolute blasphemy. As one Muslim scholar I read phrases it, that which the Koran commands is mandatory, that which is forbidden is forbidden, and nothing can ever change that, no laws of men or custom. So chattal slavery is still practiced, because the Koran permits it. Wife-beating is practiced, because the Koran commands it. And anyone from within the faith who says “Um, guys, this is not the Arabian peninsula 1400 years ago any more, maybe we shouldn’t do this this way” gets death threats and chased out of the fellowship (if they are lucky).

        • So, a not too right in the head guy gets stuck in a cave for an extended period with no food or water and comes out telling tales of visions and voices. Delirium is the medical term. Jesus may very well have been a megalomaniacal schizo, but at least his philosophy leads to a rather well put together society, that can really get things done.

          • He even had instructions for how to judge people who would modify the religion He was building.

            Matthew 7:15-20
            “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

            • Professor Badness

              And the fruits of modern Islam is evident for the world to see.

              • modern islam, an oxymoron if I have ever seen one.

              • I got in an online argument with an author (whom I like, but is occasionally irritatingly delusional) who, when I pointed out that the terrorists WERE good Muslims, because they followed the teachings of the Koran, and those Muslims that we consider good people are actually heretics. He threw a fit and claimed his muslim friends that ate pork, drank beer, and shot guns with him didn’t think so. Maybe it was because he is an avowed atheist, but he seemed totally incapable of comprehending that the Koran very specifically (Mohammed was more than a touch OCD) directs what a good Muslim does and does not do; it is NOT open to interpretation, if you do not follow the teachings of the Koran, you are NOT a good Muslim, but a heretic.

              • Yes. It’s scary to look at Islam through my secular trying-to-be-objective-and-realist conservative mental lenses. It is *terrifying* to look at Islam through my taking-the-Bible-seriously-but-only-sometimes-literally Christian mental lenses.

        • Islam is fundamentally incompatible with, and unable to actually take part in modern Western culture, because of the points you raise. You’re either an apostate Muslim, or you’re a cuckoo’s egg in human form, lying every moment of your life as you make your way through the culture surrounding you.

          This is the basic issue that triggers “Sudden Jihad Syndrome”; the awakening apostate Muslim who then tries to make up for his/her past transgressions.

          Islam is, I am afraid, never going to moderate, never going to “modernize”, and will always be “outside” Western culture. Allowing them to immigrate is simultaneously cruel, and foolish. Even if first-generation Islamic adherents are willing to make the compromises necessary, the problems really come with the second generation that didn’t experience the hell on earth that is an Islamic-dominated country. They read the Koran, they listen to the Imam, and they contrast the words they read and hear with the lives they lead, which leads to a near-inevitable case of cognitive dissonance. Mateen is a classic example of one of these mentally deficient cases, where they try to expiate a life of “western excess” by taking up violent jihad.

          Kindest thing that people could do for these unfortunates? Keep them penned up in their home countries, where they can live their lives in accordance with their creeds, and never encounter a non-Islamic thought. Forcing them to confront the inherent failures of their culture and religion is just cruel, and leads to violent acting-out. It is, I am afraid, a mental disorder, incurable in nature at this time.

    • Aye. There is some even now, but only heard now and then. We need to hear it more. Much more. More than the “big game.” More than Star Wars or Star Trek or whatever movie. More than pop culture. Where the recent release of Pokemon Go is background. It needs to ROAR!

  15. One issue to me seems to be that above a certain saturation point acculturation becomes much more difficult. Immigrants bring their past culture with them and surround themselves with it. Which is much more comfortable in the short term. They miss much of that pain Sarah speaks of. But no matter what their papers say, they never really become Americans. And unlike all the past major migrations they are not seeing to it that their kids grow up American, citizens certainly, with all the rights and privileges due them, but with no loyalty. And the result is exactly what we’re seeing. First generation Americans born of immigrants who have developed such a hatred for this country that Jihad seems a valid path.

    • I’m sorry, but we’ve seen entire cultures transplant themselves into enclaves in America before. If you go back, the same complaints were being registered back then – against the Jewish communities in NY where Yiddish was far more common then English, against the Irish communities in NY/Chicago/Boston, against the German and Polish communities in Chicago, and more recently against parts of the Mexican community. Historically, at least, within 3-4 generations, each of these communities has largely assimilated. There are only a couple of exceptions to this rule in which the group has managed to preserve their culture without large scale immigration from the “home” culture – Amish, certain Indian tribes, and Cajun spring to mind immediately.

      So, it has historically been ok if the first generation is not fully assimilated … or even the second generation. Ultimately, the question should not be whether a certain group can ever be assimilated. The question should be whether the “modern” trends towards multiculturalism and encouraging people to keep their own culture has destroyed or degraded those mechanisms that historically caused assimilation. Personally, I’m still willing to bet that their great-grandchildren will become good Americans – provided we can keep America going and not allow things to fall apart.

      • While those enclaves persist within the broader culture, they do so with acknowledged fealty to the greater culture, the Constitution and to self-sufficiency instead of suckling at the government teat.

        Moreover, you miss the point that those enclaves of which you speak were regarded as a way station; it was the dearest goal of those ethnic groups to escape the tenements, the ghettos and participate in the broader American culture. Their biggest complaints were about exclusion from that wider culture; while some stoked fears of the immigrants it was typically in preservation of their own privilege.

        As for your examples of “the Irish communities in NY/Chicago/Boston, against the German and Polish communities in Chicago” — these were not the socially insular communities you attempt to depict them being; you’d have done better to use the various Chinatowns.

        • I dunno. When I was visiting some friends in Boston, I was warned, because of my dark (well-tanned) skin that I should avoid the ‘Irish’ parts of town if I didn’t want to get into trouble. Indeed, I was threatened with death by a young Irishman in a tavern off Harvard Square if he ever caught me speaking to his lovely red-haired sister again. Oddly (how else?), that was the second death threat I had that day. The first was because, apparently, I was wearing the wrong hat.

          • Irish boy thought I looked Italian.

            • Still not the types of enclaves Sarah was describing. Presumably your Irish boyo wasn’t addressing you in Gaelic.

            • Young testosterone filled males will always be beligerant and mistrustful of anyone not of their immediate tribe. It’s the nature of the beast, not an attribute of any single culture.
              Of course the Mick would have been far better guarding his sister against his best buddy from the neighborhood, but you couldn’t tell him that. Not and leave unscathed at least.

      • Of your examples, only the Amish might qualify as immigrants. The Indian tribes were here before us, and as far as any that I have seen, about the only “culture” they have preserved is the right to call themselves a “sovereign nation” while sucking on the US government teat. Cajun’s are a distinctly American phenomenon, there is not, nor has there ever been a non-American Cajun culture.

        • Well, one could argue that Cajun has its basis in the Acadian French who were driven from Eastern Canada in the Great Expulsion of 1755-1784.
          But truth be told, Cajun is the result of those immigrants integrating into American culture, more or less. The coonass they be great folk, wonderful food, friendly nature, but one risks offending them at one’s peril. And every one I’ve met considers himself and his family Americans first, yet still proud Cajun.

      • Major difference: they did form enclaves…but they didn’t cycle back “home” regularly, and the enclaves were not comfortable. For success, you had to get out of there– and they did.

      • My point was that the cultural mechanisms that encourage an immigrant group to acculturate seem to be falling by the wayside.
        In those traditional enclaves of immigrants certainly the language, customs, dress, foods, all that reminded them of home and helped fight the very real feelings of loss were present. But so was a very strong desire to be successful in this great new country of opportunity. Obey the law, learn the language, modify your allegiance to your old culture into something compatible with America. And see to it that your children grow up as Americans.
        Globalization and multiculturalism seem to have pushed all that aside. As has the shear volume of “refugee” immigrants being brought in, compounded by the huge difference in cultures. And we are paying the price.

        • Used to be that an accusation that an Irish, Italian, Polish or Jewish (to name but a few0 enclave weren’t “real” Americans constituted fighting words.

          Now? A shrug, at most (except when it is some SJW group interest to gin up accusations against Americans by calling them divisive for not being reasonable and seeing things their way.)

  16. When I hear people, such as French Prime Minister Manuel Valls declare the country is “going to have to live with terrorism” or our French Secretary of State, John Effing Kerry claim this attack proves “ISIS is on the run” or our lightbringer president Obama shrug that there are more deaths every year from falls in the bathtub, I think about the point made in a certain movie …


    … and consider that if people never said, “Screw it — I’m not putting up with that crap anymore” the human race would never have advanced beyond (heck, up to) stone axes.

    Varmints are not a matter to be endured, to be tolerated, they are a matter to be settled. Prevention is the best therapy. Western Civ may, conceivably, not be the best culture evah, but it is the best currently available and it is bloody well worth defending. Time we said “Sorry your homeland is a sh**hole, but if you’re going to come live in our nation house you live by our rules.”

    • That’s so last century. Don’t you know it’s 2016??? There’s an all new Magnificent 7 being made, ala Ghostbusters, with a diverse cast (which wouldn’t be an issue, except we know it’s being done for message reasons) and more importantly, the villain isn’t a bandit leader, but at evil capitalist industrialist displacing the poor people!

      Another victory for social justice!

    • On a side note, I actually respect Calvera more than modern bullies and bandits. He’s open about what he does, and tries to appeal to the Seven through greed and a sense of superiority, not guilt. Neither method is good, but as I said, at least he’s honest.

      • It’s like Lincoln Steffens’s grudging acknowledgment that the political machines, as corrupt and ruinous as they were, did make assimilation easier for some immigrants and did provide necessary social and cultural services. But the price was very, very high.

        • Eyeing the cost and competency of our present Administrative State, I do not know as I concur in Steffens’s criticism of political machines as (comparatively) corrupt and ruinous. At least with political machines you knew which bastards to vote out, and the incoming political bastards knew they were expected to deliver, at least at first.

      • I agree about Calvera’s sincerity; it is one reason I selected that clip. (The other reason being that I couldn’t readily find the clip in which the villagers are sent to buy weapons rather than simply grousing about Calvera.)

        Calvera sees sheep and believes it his right (indeed, his duty) to shear them. He is a wolf incapable of comprehending sheepdogs.

        I expect the remake currently underway will have Calvera preach the doctrine of Socialism and the need for those with much grain to redistribute their wealth.

        Well, okay, maybe expect> isn’t quite the right word.


        We might as well set up the magnetron at Steve McQueen’s grave, to harvest the whirling energy.

    • Seriously? That’s what President Incompetent had to say? i swear, on 9/12 (because he would have had to think about it for a day while his controllers wrote all the speeches ) he would have just said “More people die in car crashes”.

      • BobtheRegisterredFool

        To be charitable to the man, I have argued that we shouldn’t be so hard on the Muslims, as the Democrats have killed more Americans than have the Muslims.

    • Spotted today at National Review gangblog The Corner, from Mark Krikorian:
      After Nice, Will Anything Change?
      Today was the end of France’s official period of mourning for the victims of last week’s Bastille Day truck attack, and there was a memorial service here in Nice attended by socialist Prime Minister Manuel Valls and other officials.

      Loud praise from the crowd at the memorial service for the first responders was followed by sustained, widespread booing of the prime minister, with calls of “murderer” and “resign”. He’s probably not popular here anyway, since this area is a bastion of the right – Marion Le Pen, niece of National Front leader Marine Le Pen (and more of an American-style conservative than her aunt), won the first round of the election for regional presidency last year, and lost in the end only because the socialist pulled out. But it could be that anger after the third terrorist attack in France in a year and half will be a catalyst for change.

      The makeshift memorials that sprang up along the Promenade des Anglais, where the murders took place, certainly didn’t suggest a game-changing level of anger. I saw only a couple of notes that suggested such anger; one read, in French, “May God (the true one) protect our children from these barbaric animals,” while another read “Go to Hell. Daesh, Daesh, f— you.” The rest were all of the “Pray for Nice” variety.The Left’s policies here are yielding up Trump. In France it may prove Le Pen is mightier than Les Bien-Pensants.

  17. “That Je suis talk and candles are not fixing it.” – This. Definitely this.

    Exactly what I was thinking watching the news, yet again, last night: “I am so tired of this, and so angry that all these people think _leaving flowers_ will actually accomplish something.”

    After 9/11 I spent a couple years self-educating myself on Islam, the Middle East, and the whole mess, trying to figure out what just happened. I admit I got lucky – my first exposure to any ideas on Muslims was from R.E. Howard’s Solomon Kane stories and the Song of Roland. Both written long, long before PC got its hooks into everything. So I had a better place to stand to start puzzling the whole thing out.

    What truly infuriates me is that none of our politicians seem to have put in that much effort. The information is out there! It’s not that hard to find!

    Then there’s the evergreen “Violence doesn’t solve anything!” The bleep it doesn’t….

  18. Well, there’s nothing wrong with prayers. Certainly we need to ask for God’s help. But God helps those who help themselves, and a lot of us aren’t backing up prayers with action.

    • The guy praying for a winning lotto ticket?

      After years of ever more elaborate prayers– the clouds opened, and a voice echoed down from Heaven:
      GEORGE, MEET ME HALFWAY. BUY A TICKET.

  19. I’m going to be contrarian and say that by simply coming in solidarity and hopes and prayers it at least prevents useless knee jerk reaction from politicos. Politicians and media simply will not admit that there is a malignancy to the multicultural push and will turn it into a means to punish their enemies. I hear this argument regularly from opposite side of gun control. Mainly that people should be lining up to relinquish their arms and passing new wish lists of laws after any popularized shooting regardless of whether it would have stopped the crime.

    We need to be able to see the cause of the malignancies that exist in the populace but thereis no will to do so because it is “mean”.

  20. Canary in the coal mine: Mexican illegal who has sold chickens for years at a small animal weekly sale told today “Illegal get out and never come back.”

  21. Larry Patterson

    Je suis waiting for Armageddon to really take care of people who choose to hurt others, murder, fraud, whatever. And I stopped watching TV news years ago. My dear wife did not appreciate the shouts of disgust and disbelief. Someone commented on Twitter that flags at half staff make him wonder who is this one for.

    But after 28 years in Portugal, none of us have assimilated. My Portuguese wife always speaks English, unless with family or neighbors. Not ugly Americans, per se, just not interested in the baloney here. Food is good, though. The house was built by a great-grandfather, so no mortgage.

    The thing is, the Portuguese friends here don’t expect me to blend in. Most criticize things by saying “only in Portugal.” I never do, of course.

    And the wine is really good!

  22. There is a town in Denmark called Aarhus that has managed to keep young immigrants from radicalizing through reintegration. They make sure to make them part of the community, because people who are part of the community don’t become terrorists.

    • Not the experience of Christians in Iraq who had lived side by side with Muslims for over a century. When ISIS (Or ISIL or whatever) approached, the Muslims fled. And came back riding with ISIS and pointing out the homes of the Christians. Pretty well documented behavior. Think taqiyya.

      • Which is doing its job of keeping anyone from trusting the Muslims enough to lure them away from Islam… Sadistically designed catch 22. On the other hand, the only way to break conditioning is to keep throwing things it can’t handle at it. It’s a very knotty problem.

    • Tell that to all the Iranians who were very westernized before 1979.

      • I remember noting in the book Reading Lolita in Tehran” that a lot of those “westernized” Iranians supported the change because they didn’t think through the implications. “Wouldn’t it be nice if we got more faithful,” without realizing what that implied. (The author’s family lived through the revolution and most of them ended up leaving eventually.)

        • …they didn’t think through the implications.

          That seems increasingly a flaw in Western Education, hopefully we won’t feel the burn.

  23. Definitely one of Sarah’s better columns.

  24. Well, OTH, war is a boost for technology; according to strategypage.com, today is the anniversary of the “Maiden flight of the Messerschmitt Me 262, the first operational jet fighter” (https://www.strategypage.com/today-in-military-history.aspx).

  25. And does the new prime minister of the UK read Stephanie Osborn?

    • For the sake of the historical record (archives) I’ll post the link to the sunspot column: https://accordingtohoyt.com/2016/07/15/here-spot-cmere-spot-by-stephanie-osborn/.

      I didn’t find an online news article about the new prime minister getting rid of the climate change ministry, but that should save the odd quid.

      • Everything I’ve been seeing has said that the Eurocrats are cutting back subsidies of Green Energy — they don’t mind it being more about the green than about the energy, but they’re finding it a signal whose virtue they can no longer afford.

        Only nasty cynical people will suggest that, all the graft having been milked, they’re getting out before the cards collapse.

  26. “Forward being a slogan of the communist party throughout every land”

    I came across a magazine cover back in college, while I was reading 1940s magazines instead of studying for (most of my) classes.

    The title being something like “Vorvärts!”, it was apparently for German Nazi youth. So pretty much like their ideological cousins.

    • Fascism and it’s NSDAP cousin both drew on the US Progressives and Italian Futurists, so they had that in common with the Communists. Which might also explain why US apologists for Soviet Communism pointed to the “ancient tradition [not] of the peasant commune or mir” as the foundation for the USSR’s economic theories along with Marx, now that I think about it.

      • [Not] in that the peasant commune only kicked in in the 1700s with massive changes in the tax system and the rise of communal taxation.

  27. though some day I might write “little known things about how life works according to Brazilian soap operas” post.

    The way this political season is shaping up can that be a 57 part series all between now and the first Tuesday after the first Mondy in November?

    (I was just hoping we’d have a president who loves America for what she is and doesn’t wish to fundamentally transform her.)

    Why would such a person bother getting into politics? Regardless, the GOP has proven what they will do if someone just threatens to add unapproved people to their graft and corruption train (they prefer Trump to Cruz because he is like them in terms of graft and corruption but they dislike Trump a little because he’ll allow a handful of the wrong people to benefit from it…and I don’t mean his supporters just big heels that aren’t certified by the GOP Gentry). Image what they would do if we actually got a nominee through the GOP primary process who actually wanted to scale back government and thus the chances for graft and corruption. I can’t say I’d see, hmm, physical confrontation against the expected nominee to be beyond their limits.

    • I saw an ad for a T-shirt in an ancient comic. (Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers?) It showed a couple of jackbooted thugs beating a hippie with nightsticks. The caption was,

      NO MATTER WHO YOU VOTED FOR… THE GOVERNMENT GOT BACK IN

    • BobtheRegisterredFool

      Would calling them the Russican National Committee be too harsh or childish?

  28. “Or get the hell out and back to your mud-wallow.”

    Shouldn’t that be, sand bath?

  29. I would love to read “little known things about how life works according to Brazilian soap operas”

  30. I would also like to read (and Compare and Contrast) about how life works according toTelenovelas

  31. How about Neil Diamond? This is why I say I’m an American not a USAian

  32. And the State Motto of Wisconsin is: Forward.

    This motto was adopted long before the Progressive Party of the state – which avoided Milwaukee, leaving it (by agreement) to the Socialists there.

    See: http://www.usafactbook.org/motto/wisconsin/ for alternatives, not all so serious. One is unmentioned: When the auto license plates were redesigned, there was also a suggestion of “Eat cheese or die.”

  33. I find it ironic that the millions of people adding a flag filter to their profile pictures after every terror act don’t realize that they are doing exactly what the terrorists wanted.

    • How do you mean that? Your comment is short enough I can’t figure out your meaning, exactly. If you mean, “They’re engaging in a bunch of talk but no action whatsoever,” then I agree — but maybe you meant something else, in which case I’d ask for a bit more clarification.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

      How so?

      The Terrorists want people to submit to Islam.

      How is “adding a flag” do that?

      • Terrorists’ immediate objective is to get attention; that is why their attacks try to be as sensational as possible. For them, the number of people who change their social media profile due to their acts is just a mind share metric.

        A petty analogy: letting a bully who teases you see just how upset he makes you.

        • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

          As a person who has been bullied, my experience is that they’ll keep trying until they are slapped down.

          In the case of terrorism, people are being killed so IMO you are saying “go ahead and ignore the deaths, the terrorists will go away”.

          “Nice Advice” until somebody you love is murdered. 😦

          • I suspect the problem is those who put on the flag filter and then stop, as if that were sufficient. I had the same issue with the American flags flown on cars following 9/11 — it was a form of virtue-signalling, of # diplomacy which allowed the displayer to eschew more serious acts.

            There is nothing inherently wrong with such displays, but too often they are like the punches people learn to throw in Tae Bo aerobics: all form, no force, while deluding practitioners into thinking themselves prepared for a fight.

            Flying a flag is not resistance until you go Barbara Fritchie.

            • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

              No argument about the meaningless aspect of “flying the flag”.

              But I was talking about the idiocy of “ignoring the deaths and the terrorists will go away”.

              We need to do more against terrorism than “flying the flag” but certain people see “flying the flag” as meaning that the terrorists “have won”.

              That’s stupidity.

              • BobtheRegisterredFool

                Possibly the same sort of people who would have advised you to just take the abuse, and wait for the abusers to stop.

                • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                  Since the bullying I faced was mainly verbal, I was told “don’t let it bother you”.

                  May have been an element of truth in it, but still didn’t help me.

                  On the other hand, I’ve heard that the “modern” anti-bullying program is to ask “what did you do to provoke the bully”.

                  Liberals seem to think that the solution to terrorism is to “ignore it” and “ask why did you provoke the Muslims”. 😦

                  • BobtheRegisterredFool

                    I’ve been reading a bunch of Xianxia lately. The main character being bullied to death is not that unusual an opening. There are bullies, and there are people who openly refrain from doing anything to stop the bullies, and tell the most absurd lies out of regard for the ‘face’ of the bullies. In the eyes of certain people, the terrorists have more status than their victims, and thus they must suck up to the terrorists.

                    • I think some people suck up to the terrorists because they are scared of them.

                    • BobtheRegisterredFool

                      Fear is a form of status. Or can be.

                      I’ve been reading Xianxia. Whose social mores are either taken from life in the PRC, Chinese literature, or historical China. I’m not sure which, it may vary or be a combination.

                      The guys I mentioned being bullied to death? Often enough by their own extended family, simply because they are crippled, cannot cultivate martial arts, and hence are too weak to be feared.

                      The left lives in their revolutionary fictions. In mad terrorists they see future rulers, who will have the power to make them submit. They fear them, and respect the status that the fear carries in their own heads.

                  • Patrick Chester

                    The ones I ran afoul of were good at finding buttons to push. So “don’t let it bother you” didn’t work too well.

                    • oh I loved when i would get the ‘you don’t know their home situation, it could be worse than yours’ BS, when one of my primary bullies (not the hip tossed one) was the captain of the football team, dating the assistant head cheerleader, etc

                    • First ask, “do you know my home situation?” Second, it doesn’t matter. Third, inform such people that said home situation will get considerably worse, if they don’t knock it off.

                    • oh, i was told this by people – school administrators and counselors- who DID know my home situation, and de facto did know mine was worse than most of my bullies.

                    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                      I don’t think the Bullies use their “home situation” to excuse their bullying.

                      It’s the “authorities” who comment on the bullies’ “home situation” to excuse the bullies.

                  • Feather Blade

                    I don’t know if this would work with boys, and it certainly wouldn’t work in a non-Christian setting, but what I found effective was to eagerly seek out the gossip that the mean girls were spreading about me and either cop to its truthfulness or laugh at its falsity; and then rebuke the mean girls for being bitchy gossips and mock them for being obsessed with me.

          • I found that if you hip toss a bully so hard they dent a locker, they tend to stop. And so do most of the other bullies.

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  35. It couldn’t happen to a nicer, more deserving party. Apparently the Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.

    Yesterday it came out that potential Hillary VP finalist HUD Secretary Julian Castro is guilty of violating the federal Hatch Act. Tonight the Wall Street Journal revealed that another potential Hillary VP finalist, Labor Secretary Tom Perez has proven his ability to align himself with Hillary:

    Relative of Potential Clinton VP Pick Served Dictator
    Labor Secretary Tom Perez, in the running to be Hillary Clinton’s running mate, regularly says his grandfather was expelled from the Dominican Republic for opposing the dictatorship of Rafael Trujillo. Archival records offer a more complicated picture.

    Who’s next?

  36. I moved to SC from OH about 10 years ago – it was a foreign land to me, as well. I’m living in Rock Hill, and have been for 8 years.

    I just realized that I have become more native than not when I read your comment about Rock Hill – I had an immediate response of “HEY! That’s MY city you’re talking about!”

    • It was MUCH smaller and kind of backwatterish back then. It did have a kick ass main library, though.

      • I actually have been there a few times because my husband and sometimes my brother were playing disc golf.

        Maybe next time I should try and fit in a library trip. Wait, returns could be a problem.