Puppy Sadness Has a Cure

Sad space puppies need consolation

First of all an update on the Sarah: exhausted but improving.  For the next month I’m going to be doing more than I should physically, but the fact we’re finally doing something about getting the house up for sale cheers me up.

It’s very weird to live in a house that doesn’t “fit” and to be fair, it did until the boys got big and needed office space.  It’s not a matter of size, either, as lacking space for specific activities.  I mean, the house gets messy, because you’re trying to find places to do things, etc.

However, something is being done about that, so hurray.

Meanwhile I bring you news of great puppy sadness.

But first let me tell you about this little girl in Portugal.  Okay, not that little. If she were in a language that permitted it, being five seven and around 120 lbs at thirteen in a country where four feet and a little was considered great for a girl, would have got her called Two Ton Tessie.

At any rate, that young woman fit in about as well as an elephant at a regency ball.  But she had books.

Specifically what she read was science fiction.

This was difficult because in Portugal, at the time, there was ONE imprint and it put out ONE book once a month. Not only was this relatively slow for her reading speed, it was very fast for her money speed.

However, she still bought the books, even when it meant going without lunch, or starting a neighborhood newspaper in a mad bid to make some money.

And some of the books she always bought, other than Heinlein, Asimov, Bradbury, Simak and later Mccaffrey, were collections of Hugo and Nebula winners.

I remember clearly a finals week, when I was so tired and out of it, I bought the Hugo winners volume in the store across from the school, and then read it while walking to the train, because it made me feel human again to have these thoughts that were not the type of thing they taught in school.

Would it still work that way?  I think not.  Science fiction has been taken over by academics.  This is not the same as being intellectual or even “literature” whatever the heck that is.  I mean I think AIMING for the later two is insanity, because that’s not how literature really works — the only person who can judge if your work is literary is your millionth reader in the year 220.  And he’s not born yet — but one does not, whatever the other side (rolls eyes) thinks write with one’s mind turned off.

On the contrary, the hope is to write science fiction that is fun to read but leaves behind lingering thoughts — say a lot of Heinlein’s books.

Somehow, the current luminaries in my field think the only way to make SF/F worthwhile again is to make it as boring and dreary as my school lessons back in the day. And the only way to ensure SF doesn’t die is to write characters of every shade of victimhood into their books.  And write them being victimy victims.  Because that will attract… victims…

I’m not sure what the thought is, really.  That young Portuguese woman I was back then didn’t care if her favorite books were written by or featured only blonds pasty enough to feature at the head of a Viking raid.  In fact, she didn’t mind all the names were in English.  It just gave her this odd idea that in the future she too would have an English name.  Weirdly, this was correct, though not intended thus.

Back then I read for the fun, the ideas I couldn’t find elsewhere, and the idea that the future would be interesting and not an endless pounding of Marxist tripe.

The last time I went to a bookstore in Portugal, I couldn’t find an sf/f section (though there was some paranormal romance in the general area.)

Apparently making sure there are more people who look/sound like Portuguese hasn’t helped make the books popular with the new generation there.  Judging by what I see around here, it doesn’t do much for kids here either.  Well, perhaps sanctimonious goody-two-shoes kids.  But not… normal kids.

As for the Hugos…. brother, I stopped buying the books about ten years ago, when I realized I’d stopped reading them five years before.  I even tried to read one, and it reminded me of the thing a colleague of mine says it’s a bad idea to write “The working class got up, was exploited and went back to bed.”  Only in this case it was the Transgender lesbian pagan handicapped woman woke up, was vicitimized and went back to bed.  Over and over and over again.  Though some characters were purportedly male, for variety.

And this is why the puppies are so sad.  They need more good stuff to read.  I wanted to give you a GIF post, but I’m still too tired.  Maybe tomorrow.  However, cry no more, because the inimitable Larry Correia has done a GIF post. (YAY.)

So, I’m going to quote broadly from his instructions:

This year we will be expanding the suggested slate to include several other authors, artists, and creators who are usually locked out by the SJW voting block. The men and women of Sad Puppies want to get more fans involved, even if they’re the *wrong* kind of fans. We want people to vote based on what they loved and enjoyed, not on what sends the approved message or checks the right box.

You need to register now in order to be able to participate, but your actual nominations are not due for some time. In the comments feel free to suggest other eligible works that you think we should take a look at.

And please tell your friends. Help spread the word, because only you can stop PRS.

EDIT: For those just joining us who missed last year’s controversy, here is a recap of what happened when a bunch of barbaric outsiders got nominated:  http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/04/24/an-explanation-about-the-hugo-awards-controversy/

Remember, for your $40 membership, you not only get to nominate books that don’t suck but you get those books to read free with your voting packet.  So go forth and nominate!

Copying from Larry again, because I haven’t had coffee yet:

 If you’d like to nominate good books, stories, and related works for the Hugos so that the biggest award in sci-fi/fantasy isn’t just a Social Justice Warrior circle jerk, you need to get yourself a supporting membership to Sasquan before the end of January.

https://sasquan.swoc.us/sasquan/reg.php

Go forth and votify — and nominafy (shut up, totally words!) so that little girls yet unborn think of the Hugos as cool and interesting again, and not as the same sort of boring Marxist pap their professors push.

 

 

151 responses to “Puppy Sadness Has a Cure

  1. I do so love reading their attempts to condemn OUR stuffing the ballot box while justifying THEIR stuffing the ballot box.

    Vote early and often!

  2. I finally broke down and got a membership. Even if I don’t nominate or vote on very many categories, I’ll still get a load of free reading, and I can see what some of the crap-writing that people talk about looks like.

  3. The madness taking over sci-fi/fantasy is part of the same movement that’s redefining literature on campuses. SJW preaching has replaced solid story telling. Count me as mad, not sad.

    • I was taught literature that way — got a masters in the stuff — and it took me years to realize they’re full of sh*t. They teach literary worth=social relevance according to the latest fad for what the “future” is.

      • Yeah, One of the few Lib arts classes I ended up taking was a Shakespeare class where the professor had us do a “Freudian Analysis” of all his sonnets and one play – I think MacBeth.

        It was pure crap and pure torture to attend it every day. It was right before my first drafting class and I had to run across campus (UT Austin) to get there on time, working up a real sweat and dripping on my drawings….

        • It’s pathetic, the way they still take Freud seriously.

          • Why the surprise? There are so MANY fantasies and delusions that they take terribly, TERRIBLY seriously.

          • Freud was a fraud.
            That said, lots of militant feminists seem determined to prove him right about “penis envy”.
            (Also, it’s tons of fun to make the accusation. They get positively incandescent.)

            • 30 years ago there was a letter to the editor of JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) from a lady shrink that said, “Freud was wrong. What women have is pocket envy.” I see no reason to disagree with her perspicacious observation, even though women’s trousers and some skirts do, now, have usable pockets.

        • We had a class that did textual criticism, but since this was taught by a Jesuit, he taught us all the major schools of thought, split us into groups, and had us all analyze one work (in this case, The Lord of the Rings) using the various forms. The Freudian one was one of the funnier ones, naturally.

    • This is apparently older than I am. Fortunately, I endured literature by reading the good stuff out of class, and the High School lit teachers didn’t mind if I read Animal Farm or 1984 or Alas. Babylon, or Brave New World or The Demolished Man. College I kept my head down, but one professor, bless him, called garbage garbage, and another did an absolutely outstanding job with Dante.

  4. Now, you wait a minute. For the love of Pete! You can’t just nominate good stories. What about the CHIIIIIIILLLLDREEEENNNNNN!!??!??!?!? Who will tell them what is good for them and speechify at them if we entertain them? Shouldn’t awards go to people who support the right causes? What happens if some Rethuglican writes a story? Do they qualify?

    What do you mean they do? MAMA, they just said that offensive stories with badthink should get awards!!!!

    • The Other Sean

      “Shouldn’t awards go to people who support the right causes?”

      I think they only give out awards to people who support the left causes.

      • Oops. The “correct” causes

        • Want to borrow a three year old?
          After two or three stand-up routines about “right” vs “correct” you’re well trained to remove “that’s right” from your vocabulary.
          (Plus, she’s stinkin’ adorable when she answers a question with grim “dat iz coh-weck-d.”)

          • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

            Started the “may do something” vs “can do something” game? [Grin]

            • “Can” and “may” have been interchangeable for at least a century, outside of courtroom level settings.

              I’d no more screw with my kids’ heads like that than I would make them say ‘if it pleases you” instead of “please.”

              • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                I’m not that old. [Wink]

                Mom taught me and my sister that “may” means have permission while “can” means have the ability.

                On the other hand, I kidded Mom when she would say “You may set the table” when she meant “Please set the table”. [Smile]

                • I was taught the same thing.

                  Problem: it isn’t true.

                  “May” is a more formal form, but “can” does, in fact, include asking for permission as well as stating ability; it also does, in fact, mean that the person is making a request for a person to do something, and the “yes, I can open the door, do you want me to?” is rudely incorrect in addition to being obnoxious.

                  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/can
                  Can and may are most frequently interchangeable in senses denoting possibility; because the possibility of one’s doing something may depend on another’s acquiescence, they have also become interchangeable in the sense denoting permission. The use of can to ask or grant permission has been common since the 19th century and is well established, although some commentators feel may is more appropriate in formal contexts. May is relatively rare in negative constructions (mayn’t is not common); cannot and can’t are usual in such contexts.

                  Oxford Dictionaries dot com also notes that they are interchangeable.

                • I teach mine that “poisonous means you get sick if you bite/touch it, venomous means you get sick if it bites/stings you.”

                  • Admittedly, there is some overlap….

                    (I do get picky about the difference between a “truck” and a “PICK-UP truck,” when the situation is appropriate.)

                    • Yep, that’s an important difference. My brother’s 1/2 ton never set right after he pulled a house trailer with it.

                    • I thought that I would never sit right, after the guy was sent to get “the red truck” to haul a half-dozen cowboys down the hill after a 14 hour ride came back with the red toyota instead!

                  • Much like the difference between Nauseous and Nauseated. People use the first one incorrectly all the time.

              • I taught my kids certain forms, such as “May I be excused?” I don’t think they have any idea that there’s a functional difference between “may” and “can”, but rote repetition means they have at least one correct.

              • I’m sure I’ve already told you’all about my… it might have been third grade… teacher who when I asked “can I go to the bathroom” she pulled the “can/may” thing on me, “I don’t know, can you?” until I peed my pants.

                • I’ve actually heard of that from several people, male and female. Part of why it makes me so angry now that I found out it’s wrong– before, it was poor judgement trying to teach someone a difference and going too far. Now, it’s just wrong, and the kind of wrong that you’re supposed to check for before getting in that kind of situation.

            • My mother and I had a… conflict about this.

              She really did not appreciate when I started correcting her use of “cannot” or “can’t” in the context where she, according to the rules she wanted to enforce, meant may not.

              • William O. B'Livion

                So your mother expected you to follow rules she felt she was above.

                Was she a Progressive?

                • *rimshot*

                  Nah, she was taught that you say “may I” when you request something, and in formats like “may I be excused”– very formal– it is proper. Like saying “please,” but more so.

                  When I was a kid, I obeyed it as a matter of course; when I eventually (as an adult) went and looked it up, I told her about it.

                  The conflict was after that… although I honestly have hated the “joke” of going “yes, I can– do you want me to?” when someone says “could you hold the door, please?”

  5. C4C

  6. As far as I remember, even back in the 1950s and 1960s both L. Sprague De Camp and H. Beam Piper wrote a lot of SF with Portuguese (well, Brazilian) characters featured. In Nausonce Piper featured a subplot where a black man and a blond-haired white woman wished to develop a romantic relationship and no one else thought it remarkable. (They were restrained by command relationships rather than race. It was implied they would pair off after the expedition they were on ended.)

    So, it’s not like you cannot write entertaining SF with these type of issue. It’s just that it has to be subtle (and entertaining).

    • No, no, you don’t understand! If it’s subtle, no one will get it! Your message must be out front and hammered home at least two-three times per chapter. More, if possible, or the plebes won’t understand Just! How! Important! It! Is!

      • So you’re saying we modern humans are just as dumb as the Egyptians who couldn’t possibly have figured out how to move those giant stones without power tools, and had to have had alien help? (flying carp? What is this, Illinois?)

        • Christopher M. Chupik

          One day, the people of the future will look back on *our* era and think we must have had alien help, because of the rampant stupidity on display.

          “How could those ignorant barbarians have created the iPhone? Aliens!”

          • “Yup – no limit on how many you catch, but you gotta catch ’em by hand, in the air.”

            “Dang…”

            “Yup. Got a set of WW2 flak armor, you want it slip it on and go fishin’?”

  7. Coffee…. Yes please

  8. Lotta folks ’round hereabouts read Prof. Reynolds, but I wanted to pull this little gem out, because of its tangential relationship to the topic at hand:

    Occupy the Syllabus.

    Some people have crawled so far inside their own navel they’re mistaking the chasms between epidermal sheets for momentous features of the real world.

    Several of them vote on the Hugos.

    • Kinda like grading for grammar in a journalism class is microaggression against minorities. Besides, as one of the commenters wrote, how can you understand “thinkers of color and social theory” without knowing what they are (one presumes) arguing against? I read Marx to bury him, not to praise him, but I still read him.

      The students must live in a much kinder, fluffier world than I do, that this is a such a massive affront to their existence.

      • Microaggression? Well, there’s your problem. Anything less than MACROaggression towards poor grammar in a journalism (or Engrish) class is professorial malpractice.

        • I had a college professor (who taught philosophy, as it happens) who used to go through essays with a big red pen and write “EVIL” anywhere there was a grammatical mistake. I heard tell of one memorable time when someone misused the language so badly that he took four pens in his grip and circled clear out to the edge of the paper. Mind you, you could still get a good grade if your logic was soundly argued, but it’s scary to receive a paper that looks as though it’s been bled upon.

          He also taught us the word “defenestrate*,” and would demonstrate its use if ever he found someone taking notes in pencil.

          *Defenestrate, the act of throwing someone or something out of the window. Transfenestrate means exactly the same thing, except you don’t bother to open the window first.

          • William O. B'Livion

            What is wrong with taking notes in pencil?

            • “We are adults; we use pens.” He was actually a very sweet guy, but he had his particular quirks.

          • My kids absolutely LOVE the word defenestrate.

            • Though I thought it was specifically applied to a method of murder.

              • Patrick Chester

                Depends on which floor the defenestration happens on. 1st floor? Not likely murder. 100th floor? Oh yes…

              • I always heard it applied to the ever-popular old western bar fight scene.

                You know– *thud* *bang* *crash* through the window, into the horse trough.

                • ….. many Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, and Henry Fonda movies just went through my head…. dang your rotten hide!! It is very hard to find those on DVD….

                  • Don’t forget de Forest Kelly, in all the various spellings he used– he was in a lot of the good old ones, usually as a heavy. (including early on in The Lone Ranger, although he was being saved, there)

                    If you’ve got Amazon Prime, that’s a place to start.

                    • Amazon Prime is actually on my list of things to get once in Arizona.

                      And, I actually have two Zane Grey novels that I found at the local library bookstore that’d once I get read I would love to send on to someone. I’ll find out what the titles are tomorrow (they are in a deep box and the fiance is already asleep) and share what they are.

                • Patrick Chester

                  Or the holographic one in that Firefly episode.

                • I never thought about it until reading it in print – what about the poor horses drinking from the trough that now has glass in the bottom?

                  Won’t anyone think of the horses? 🙂

                • That is why transfenestration actually supports a specialist Hollywood industry—the creation of plate sugar “glass.”

              • Unless you are talking about Czech history, where you get to sort out the three Defenestrations of Prague. No, they didn’t throw the city out the window. The second was not quite a murder, since the guys landed in the castle dung heap. The third one was a “suicide” in the Soviet sense of the word.

            • I learned the word defenestrate in elementary because it’s what happened to moorish supervisors in the region and also what happened to the Spanish King’s representative when Portugal rebelled in the 1600s

      • From where I sit (comfortably ensconced in a gentle Western civilization) the fluffiness is incalculable.

        I’m not sure I have the stomach to watch what reality would do to these gossamer souls.

    • I woukd pay cash on the barrel to have seen the face of the authir when she read the comments.

    • Made it through “person of color.” Odd: I thought white was a color. And what do they have against albinos and why are they calling Plato and Aristotle such? I thought light skinned people were usually sort of rose-pinkish.

      Odd. Here only racists use the color of ones skin to place a value on their thoughts.

      • “Here” meaning the location from which I am writing, and not this blog.

        • Oh, it applies here as well. The thing is that nobody here would use a commenter’s skin color to judge their comments.

  9. (shy but loyal mostly-lurker here)

    I’m laughing because I actually KNOW a Transgender lesbian pagan handicapped woman (at least online; she’s the partner of a good online friend of mine) and SHE doesn’t even sit around all day being a victim like the Social Justice Warriors say a good little TLPHW should. She worked on the floor at Costco over the holidays and was thrilled for the opportunity, and now that the seasonal job has ended, she’s hoping to get another one like it.

    Which makes me wonder, are the SJWs even relevant to the people they think they’re Social Justicing (yes it’s a word) for?

  10. *That* hurt to read, Earmon. I guess no one told them that Aristotle was Greek. [Most Greeks I have met were Mediterranean and were, by modern definition, people of color. 😉 Or maybe I misread that part of the definition. :-p ] Then I got to who wrote it. “UC Berkeley.” Ahh, that explains a lot. Berkley, the same Calif town that told the U.S. Marines that they were “uninvited and unwelcome intruders.”

    • *ears flatten* Berkeley is a dirty word in many parts of California I’m finding out. There is rumours of the site being on track for quarantine.

      • Christopher M. Chupik

        Berk those berking sons of berkers!

      • Professor Badness

        I’d sterilize the sight, personally.
        But that’s just me.

        • Professor Badness

          “site” not “sight”
          Although, “sight” kind of works too.

        • Nuke it from orbit.

          • Drop a rock on it instead. Most of us are downwind.

            • Two things I’ve always wondered:

              1.) How much dust would a legitimate KEW throw up? Enough to cause problems with particulates in the air? Enough to cause environmental problems?

              2.) Although one would assume that a KEW would put out far less radiation than a nuke, how much would it put out? A rock/chunk of metal towed through space before being dropped on a planet may absorb some cosmic rays, but would it be enough to matter?

              • 1) Depends primarily on mass and velocity. Assuming an impact velocity around 20 miles per second, a mass smaller than a million tons or so will only create local environmental impacts. Er, local being within a couple hundred miles.

                2) No one seriously worries about radiation from meteorites, which have been kicking around space for way longer than you would keep a KEW up there before using it. That said, since one of the primary plans is to use depleted Uranium, there might be enough conversion to higher-radiation isotopes to cause a small increase in local background radiation.

                • Regarding 2): You’re not going to see transmutation absent either a source of thermal neutrons or getting your KEW north of 99% of the speed of light (in which case, chronic dose from radioisotopes is going to be the least of your problems.)

                  http://web.mit.edu/~yandros/humor/blast-physics.txt

                  • Cosmic rays will cause transmutation whether they are neutrons, protons, electrons, or photons. When your particle energy is in the MEV/nucleon range and above, it doesn’t much matter what it is or what it hits, but Uranium is more likely to be converted to a more highly radioactive isotope than, say, Tin.

                    • Actually, when you get into the MeV/nucleon range you don’t get transmutation so much as you get secondary radiation.

                      And most of the nasty stuff associated with nuclear reactors comes from the activation of relatively light (iron, cobalt, etc.) elements. The rest of the nasty stuff is from fission products or their immediate daughters. Transuranics are either very short lived (half-life of a couple of days) or very long lived (half-life of millions of years).

                  • YES, that’s the thing i mentioned in the comment below! I was on the mailing list where it first appeared.

              • Krakatoa is rated at 200 megatons, according to Wikipedia. It had, ahem, environmental impact enough to be considerable. Much less than that amount of energy isn’t going to accomplish the stated goal. Tambora is rated 800 megatons, which caused the year without a summer. I don’t find any reference to dust problems associated with either event, but then again, both were upwind of the Pacific, so any problem would have been masked.

              • A large-enough KEW moving fast enough will generate an X-Ray burst on impact, but the bowl San Francisco sits in should contain most of that…

                • You do know that the use of kinetic energy weapons (particularly relativistic ones) against a population that has surrendered is a violation of the Deneb Accords right? What, you say they didn’t surrender? In that case let them eat relativistic ravioli (or a fractional C carp, at those speeds it matters little what the ammo is).

                  • Every problem can be solved by the proper application of chocolate.

                    Sometimes, the proper application is 1 kilo slugs moving at .99c.

                    • No need to waste chocolate like that. If it’s moving that fast, a shaving or two will produce all the destruction you’re likely to need.

                    • You can go to this site and enter the information (I did .001 kg and .99c). Then, you can go to this other site and enter the answer provided on the first page (though you will have to enter it long form, it doesn’t seem to take scientific notation), and it will tell you how many kilotons of energy it will release.

                      You will find that 1 gram at that velocity will produce 119 kilotons.

                    • I’ve always been an advocate of a large Factor P in my application of kinetic energy. 😎

                  • Relativistic ravioli…. That rings a bell from the ELBOWS mailing list in the early 90’s… I still have that file, including a couple of replies “Cerenkov radiation is the Lightspeed Police flashing their lights at you.”

            • William O. B'Livion

              It’s not just “us”, it’s the CA Central Valley that feeds a significant portion of America.

              The San Francisco Bay would be a *hell* of a target if we were fighting competent enemies.

      • Yeah, it’s gotta be bad when the people in San Fran pray to [insert deity or lack there of here] that when the Big One strikes, Berkeley is what falls off into the sea. (aka “Sweet St. San Andreas Save Us!” h/t SmallDeadAnimals)

        • I’ve visited Berkeley. Anthony Boucher’s elegant, learned Berkeley of his mystery novels is still there, but being held hostage by hippie scum Berkeley. It’s a real shame.

    • Wrong-thought can do wonders for sucking the color outta the darkest skin.

      Just ask Sarah or Larry. I’m pretty sure Larry could play a viking vampire by now. Sarah’s at least in line for Boudicca…

    • Their conflict with the Marines ended… predictably… from what I heard. I also hear the university stayed out of it officially, if only to protect their funding, but my information is second hand.

    • I just go with “swarthy denizens of the Levant” for everything between France (North of Marseiiles, which is historically CRAWLING with SFOTL in fiction) and India…

  11. I voted on last year’s Hugo slate. (My husband and I split categories—he took Novel, since he’d *read* all of WoT.) The short pieces struck me in their remarkable similarity—two out of four short stories were about coming out, for Pete’s sake. I felt, however, that of the categories I’d read, the Campbells were a better class of writing, which should never be the case in such an award. This year, I have to read all the categories, since we’re going. (I went to college in Spokane, and a more perfect setup for this style of convention would be hard to find. No huge walks from the hotel, a gorgeous park literally just out the door, the “opera house” just across a walkway… oh yes. And waterfalls! And great restaurants! And an awesome bookstore!)

    Anyway, I’ve been seeing this tendency for a while. I picked up a freebie copy of a book that felt as though it were written by a Literature person dabbling in genre fic. (It has “Science-Fictional” in the title, so you can look it up.) There was just enough good style in it that I plowed through, muttering, “There must be a pony in here somewhere.” But no pony for me. Come to find that it’s very highly regarded in certain circles. Okay, fine. But I’ll take Charles Stross and his Laundry Files over vague “I will reconnect with my father” any day.

    • When you say that two of the stories were about ‘coming out’ and considering that we’re talking about science fiction and fantasy stories I would hope that the characters were publicly stating that they were androids or lycanthropes or something like that. of course it’s nothing of the sort, is it?

      • Nah, just heavy allegory. One of them won, though I will admit it was far the superior of the two (I put it in second place.)

  12. Silly question for this page. (already asked one on Larry’s page, gotta spread the silly/stupid around.) While I have know about the Hugos for years, I have never been aware of how a story/book is nominated, let only voted. I guess I thought it was voted on by the other writers, or something.

    Does the membership get me the opportunity to put in stories? I saw two in Analog this year that I think were outstanding.

    • http://sasquan.org/hugo-awards/nominations/

      Eligibility to Nominate

      You may nominate for the 2015 Hugo Awards and John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer if, on or before January 31, 2015, 11:59 pm PST (7:59 am GMT on February 1, 2014):

      you are an attending or supporting member of Sasquan (the 2015 World Science Fiction Convention), and/or
      you are an attending or supporting member of MidAmeriCon II (the 2016 World Science Fiction Convention), and/or
      you were an attending or supporting member of Loncon 3 (the 2014 World Science Fiction Convention).

      Knock their socks off!

  13. dear lord that page is horribly written (in an html sense)

  14. I am tempted to spend the money just for the pleasure of torquing the SJWs. Other than this . . . I’m a pessimistic as to the outcome. Other than adding balance to the Hugos, what change will it make? SJW will remain such; editors and publishers are apt to dismiss it because it’s not the results they want. In my thinking, the only real hope is for technology to pass them by, much like The Magnificent Ambersons, where their function as promoters and gatekeepers becomes irrelevant.

    What am I missing?

    • I’ve been wondering that, too — ‘s ok for ‘plan A’ to be to tilt at windmills / restore the Hugos, but gotta know when to cut losses and build an alternative quality credential for actual benefit to authors and readers of good SFF.

      • That’s exactly right–it is some nose-thumbing at idiots, but it is also an effort to build awareness and readership of “blue” SFF. There are a lot of blues (contrasted with pinks) out there, who would buy and read if only they knew it was there. Thus, we can publicize Baen books and Vox Day’s new Castalia House press which don’t publish the pinky stuff.

      • alternatives are harder to start up than you think.

      • Eh… do we actually believe in credentials? I mean, sure, it would be nice if “Hugo” was restored to some semblance of “wow!” but I’m unsure that it’s particularly necessary.

  15. Keep getting better – and I haven’t read a Hugo in almost twenty years when I realized they weren’t good stories. At the very least they weren’t fun to read. I decided that life was too short for that cr*p.

  16. For me, the main point would be to gradually wear away the feeling that the leftists have that everybody (who counts) agrees with them. A lot of them seem to have adopted their ideology as a social thing, in order to fit in. So if they look around and it’s not just a matter of choosing “what everybody else is doing”… Make them think a bit first.

    • That’s a good point. The more people see that it’s not really the only opinion, or even a majority, the more will stop feeling like they have to go along.

    • It’s also what I’ll call the “Rush Limbaugh Effect”. Suddenly you’re not the only one — there are others who share your opinion! It gives the Free People confidence, and unnerves the Enemy, because the Enemy counts on the Free People being convinced they’re in the minority, losing, and despised.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      Look at how badly the Left has responded to American Sniper. Now compare that to the Hugo Wars of last year. Pretty similar, no?

  17. Christopher M. Chupik

    They can’t stand to be challenged. One person standing up and saying “no” is enough to drive them into a frenzy.

  18. Well, that’s forty bucks I’ll never see again. Friggin’ SJWs, making me spend money like that.

    Oh well, it’ll be worth it just to watch the sons of bitches froth at the mouth and call me a Nazi. I love it when they call me a Nazi, means I’m on the right track.

  19. Off Topic, but For Your Viewing Pleasure:
    http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/10/02/10-reasons-why-vintage-hollywood-sci-fi-is-still-so-good/
    and a whole lotta SF pix, covers, magazine pages:

    1947- 'Rocketship Galileo'
  20. Membership bought. I have a perverse sort of pleasure as I’m interested in seeing some of the SJW picks, that I’d never normally buy myself. But $40 to vote in a few good books in that list and get the crap? Yeah ok. >:)

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