We Don’t Need A Lullaby

We’ll start at the beginning, with the Telegraph asking if the west can reinvent itself in time to meet what’s coming.

It’s a question I’ve asked here myself, but they’re asking it the wrong way.  It’s not the west, by and large, that has lost civilizational confidence.  What it has lost are elites that are on its side.  Anywhere, in any country, you find the people quite sure they’re better than any other people in the world.  This is stupid, wrongheaded and absolutely right.

Humans are tribal creatures, and who should they identify with but their own tribe? It is easier to negotiate relationships between tribes and try to find what’s best in an imperfect world than to make humans non tribal.  But our leaders don’t get that, and even when the “tribe” is mostly a consensual one of belief, our elites think this must be broken up in various ways, so as not to let the people on the street think they’re better.

Apparently the labor party in England engineered mass immigration so as to “rub conservative noses in diversity” — because in their minds these “conservatives” are those of the nineteenth century who believed color of skin was a marker and not those of the twentieth century trying to keep a culture in which women aren’t treated as chattel.  The difference between — and here we chance wording, because the British system is different but these underlying groups are the same — vile progs and sane people who live in the sane world, is that sane people would never encourage more Rotherhams in order to rub the vile progs nose in it.

Which is why the west is losing the narrative, and its elites are in the end completely cut off from reality, free to do things like tell the rubes there is a human-life-threatening crisis which they ignore in their every-day behavior.

I’ve in the past posited that our culture went into a tail spin in the aftermath of WWI.  I read somewhere, this week, and can’t find it now that this too might not be exactly true.  That it might be the narrative of world war I.  I will confess that it was always a little odd how the narrative went and how nationalism was to blame for everything.  Perhaps even then, the narrative was being shaped in favor of an “internationalist” view by those vile progs who thought that communism was the answer.

We can’t know because — due to the mass-industrial mode of communication that still remains from the 20th century, and due to the fact that this has been taken over long ago by vile progs, it’s entirely possible everything we ever “knew” from academic history to journalism is a lie.  Some days I feel like we’re stuck in the soviet union, where the future is known (and ever bleaker) but the past keeps changing.

Because most humans are tribal, they want to have a cohesive narrative, and since the narrative is provided by the elites, it seems like all of the west has lost its nerve.  But there are some signs at least that the people aren’t buying it.

Which is good, because the elites have gone howling mad.  Apparently it’s not just my impression that any airport-related industry goes out of its way to hire people who might be presumed to possibly have a grudge against the US, from Chinese people who can barely speak English, to Russian people ditto, to of course any Arab/Muslim they can get to apply.  I’ve told myself surely they screen these people.  Surely I’m just being prejudiced.  No one would be crazy enough to hire these people without serious screening.  Apparently these are just things I tell myself to go to sleep at night.

And apparently our elites really, really, really are lost in narrativium.  For instance, it is a surprise to them that Isis isn’t amenable to outreach.  They think it’s a great idea to name public centers after the man who doesn’t have a plan to deal with Isis and who frankly seems to hate the guts of the country he leads, and only reverse themselves when there’s “public outrage”.  They thought that putting a sector under control of the government would lower costs. They think they can end wars by fiat.  They think that because the enemy is nutty we shouldn’t fight it, or something.

At this time, and in this place, the strange thing is not that a governor talks about the threats coming over the unsecured border which the elites have opened (I guess to rub our noses in diversity?something the smart idiots being educated at our colleges STILL think it’s a prime priority.) The strange thing is that our president is “passionate” in his certainty that the enemy doesn’t want to kill us. This is not a problem of people who live in the real world, where if someone is armed and says they want to kill you and shows that they’re willing to kill you by beheading those of you they can get hold of, you should believe them.

It’s time to wake up.  This pervasive lullaby the elites have been playing since WWI which tells us that the cause of WWI was not different needs and aspirations, and each group of people striving to better themselves according to the way humans are humans, but it was the fault of “nationalism” and a belief in G-d and whatever else the elites despise this week, must stop.

It’s time to wake up or be killed as you sleep.  Remember, WWI not only might have been far more complex than the elites taught you (I bet it was.  Real history is messy) but also the reason it was such an abattoir was THEIR elites belief in how a war should be fought, despite new technology that made those methods just a way to kill people faster and in greater numbers while solving nothing.

The truth is the stories the elites told you were always a load of bull.  They’re desperate to establish themselves as better than you and utterly confident in their own abilities, even though everything they know of life is a narrative of a narrative of a narrative.  It turns out humans are in the end very much human, and every progressive society reverts to theocratic paganism, where the “dear leader” becomes a living or (after death) ancestral god: the Castros, the Kim’s, and apparently now that world class clusterf*ck, Chavez. Because the man who took a civilized country to a total inability to buy beg or steal toilet paper is totally someone whose ghost can dispense favors.  And hey, aren’t socialists/communists supposed to be atheist?

The elites can tell themselves these stories because they’re insulated.  Also, being selected mostly on compliance with the program and ancestry (mostly because their parents were elite, though of course our current affliction was chosen because he tans interestingly) they aren’t nearly as smart as they’ve been told they are.  And at some level, I think they know it.

It’s time for the rest of us to start the alarm clock.  It’s time to stop discounting people just because they don’t fit the credentialism which picks mostly for ideology.  This means, yes, respect indie writers, read to blogs, and maybe consider politicians who didn’t go to “the best universities” or to university at all.

In a world where the past keeps changing, all an “excellent education” signals is an ability to either be gullible or double think.

That we can’t afford.  Stop the lullaby.  Read, think, create, make yourself heard.  For a century we could afford to let our elites go emo and wallow in their own self-blame and the hatred of their own nations.  We were that rich and that insulated.  And there were enough even in the elites that retained a modicum of sanity.

That safety margin is gone.  It’s time to wake up.  The question, it turns out, is not whether the future is queer.  The question is whether the future is medieval.

580 thoughts on “We Don’t Need A Lullaby

      1. 🙂

        (Column spot on, btw, now that I’ve read it. I got some sorta response to it quasi-framed but I don’t know that I can put it down before I have to deal with the non-virtual world.)

        1. And we’re here in your living room because you make it so comfortable for us all to gather and interact. You’re a MAJOR part of our tribe — maybe even the leader of this particular sub-set. We love you for it (and the free goodies!).

      2. Makes you wonder what you’ve done to deserve it, doesn’t it?

        But, really, you know. When all the weird people are hanging out at your place…

        Clicked the box for my turtles.

            1. Oy, get in line, you! I was here looking for normalcy, then there was cat pictures. Or was it Guadalcanal? Possibly fixing an ’83 Ford just enough to get it to the shop to fix right? Maybe it was learning to cook Korean food. I just took my eyes off the line for a second, I swear!

              Did they move the line for folks getting “normal” signs again?

        1. I cheat. I went into the WP control panel and set it to always send me comment notifications from here.

          1. I’m not sure “weird” is quite the right word for those snails. [Wink]

              1. If you’ve purchased the October Monthly Bundle, you can read Sarah’s story on-line. I may have gotten too close to “snerking” with my comment for me to say more.

              1. Yes, I read it and there’s a novel hiding out there to set in that world. [Smile]

        1. But we do have oysters! And occasionally other creatures. They’re very prevalent in Sarah’s Diner.

                1. As one of the local Dragons, I can tell you that few intelligent species can stand eating the common troll. Only the lowest of lifeforms can stand eating them. [Very Big Dragon Grin]

              1. I think the specialty of the house is Troll Tartar, thoroughly pounded to tenderize the meat and release the juices.

          1. We just added our third dog yesterday, to go along with two cats. This is another chihuahua/terrier mix. We hope he will provide the playmate for our previous puppy, who gets so very lonely when Timmy goes to school every day. The usual problems with adaptation and integration, but he seems to be making himself quite at home.

            We’re also looking to move — into a house all on one level. Unfortunately, there aren’t many of those on the market right now that we can afford.

            1. I know of one, well two actually, but they are in state more screwed up than Colorado… which come to think of it, is why they are for sale in the first place.

  1. SOOO spot on. It’s better, at this point, to have weapons and martial arts training for your kids than soccer. It’s better to teach them trades than professions. Because we appear to be on the cusp of a societal reorganization, in which sheepskins on the wall will no longer feed your family, and when societies reorganize too quickly, marketable skills are what puts food on the table. Sad, scary times, but times with hope too. If worst comes to worst, my wife and I will get by fixing cars and canning food for people.

    1. Multiple “marketable skills”; generalists will survive what specialists can’t. Be prepared to teach your neighbor.

      1. Hm. I wonder if knowing gemology would count as a marketable skill (something I have been looking at as a possible thing to study, considering I did once upon a time have a pretty solid basic knowledge of mineralogy).

        One would think that knowing how to estimate the value of things which have traditionally been used in trade might be useful if our currencies crash. They are mostly sitting on air now (?) but a diamond will still be a diamond even if that crash happens in the worst way (even with synthetic gems around – that might just mean that being able to tell a fake from a genuine would be even more important). So maybe you can’t eat gems or gold, or use them for anything practical, but people will still need something small and easily portable and rare (so maybe mined gems will keep their values for a while) for trade.

        1. Prospecting is always possible as well. There’s plenty of gold out there. Every state in the union produces gold. Check out the LDMA & GPAA.

          1. pohjalainen is in Finland 😉
            We also have people from Malta, and weird places here, though I think she’s the only one who comments instead of sending me messages via email.
            And btw those of you who send those emails, have a note on your computer saying “Sarah doesn’t read Kanji” That way we can avoid the second message saying “oops!” after my eyes have crossed.

            1. There is still some gold here too. I spend two summers in the 80’s prospecting, well, actually helping to evaluate a find as a summer field assistant with Finnish Geological Survey (over a decade later that find became the Kittilä gold mine), but I do have a pretty good idea of where you might find gold in rocks as old as the ones of the Fennoscandian Shield are and how to look for it, and where you might find placer deposits here. 🙂

                1. You’re welcome. And no, knowing Swedish would not help, Finnish is part of the Uralic family. As far as I remember the only languages close are spoken by some small groups in Russia, if you discount Estonians.

                  1. BTW, when speaking I have sometimes switched languages, and answered in Finnish when the discussion otherwise was in English. But I don’t seem to do that when writing.

                  2. So Ugrics like Khanty, Mansi, and Hungarian are just distant cousins?

                    Things never seem to get simpler the closer you look at them…

                    1. Seems to depend somewhat on who is talking. The old version, which I was taught in school, is that the Ugrics are well related and Hungarian is very much the same family, maybe a half brother if not a full one, but some differing opinions seem to have come out during the last decades. I’m not all that well versed in that fight though, apart from what I have occasionally read in the local newspapers or magazines.

                1. So have I, just not very much gold finding. Value of gold would have to go up quite a bit for it to be worthwhile for me to placer mine any place I have tried.

                  1. Remember, the way to make money in a gold rush is to “mine the miners.” Not as glamorous (for people who think that mining involves glamor), but far more dependable.

                    1. Anybody who thinks mining has glamour has never ran a Number 2 Mexican Backhoe all day, or stood bent over for hours, mid-calf deep in a snowmelt stream swirling a pan around.

    2. my wife and I will get by fixing cars and canning food for people.
      It is important that somebody take steps to prevent cars overbreeding — in my childhood there were whole neighborhoods overwhelmed by abandoned strays.

      As for the other matter … just remeber: canning food for people is fine, canning people for food is tacky.

      1. “in my childhood there were whole neighborhoods overwhelmed by abandoned strays”

        At the price of scrap I wouldn’t mind having some unsprayed cars around.

          1. UUUURRRRGGGHHHH! did I mention I hate autocorrect?

            I very specifically typed unspayed, because I thought the first time it was my typo. Hit Post and noticed that it had helpfully added the r for me, again.

  2. This morning Mark Skousen quoted Allan Meltzer:

    “HONG KONG — The opening Mont Pelerin Society (MPS) address by Allan Meltzer, of Carnegie-Mellon University, warned attendees that the welfare system in America is getting out of control and could result in slow economic growth for years to come.

    “‘The greatest threat today is the welfare state,’ Meltzer said. ‘Lowering taxes does not appeal to the average voter because they don’t pay income taxes anymore.’

    “Meltzer added that ‘the welfare system can’t exist without a vibrant capitalistic economy.'”

    This is just one aspect of the confusion of the elites you were speaking of. They think having an ever increasing percentage of the population on welfare is a GOOD thing.

        1. In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
          By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
          But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
          And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

        2. Somebody didn’t get their econ degree from Hah-vahd, I see. Or even those Johnnie-Come-Latelies at Yale. A dollar is a dollar. It doesn’t change. Everyone know that…

              1. Maybe not a good *Colt* but shy of $400 can get you something that goes bang reliably in a decent caliber and shoots pretty much where you point it.

                Try a revolver. It’s a mechanically simpler machine, stone-ax simple, really. That tends to cut down the production costs, which can lower the price.

                1. No, actually these days it is cheaper to manufacture a reliable semi-auto than a reliable revolver. If you don’t believe me, price out Smith & Wesson J-frames. Even Taurus revolvers – with their very problematic QC – run more than a decent semi-auto pistol.

                  1. Yes, but how many years worth of gently used revolvers are looking for a new pillow to sleep under?

                    1. Well … price gently used S&W revolvers … Heck, I have a 30 year old Ruger on consignment at LGS now that is going to pay for a brand new semi auto S&W carry piece when it sells.

                  2. Personally I’ve found Taurus revolvers to be much more reliable (never had one, or known anyone who had one, malfunction) than S&W revolvers (have known a couple to malfunction, including one that I didn’t own, but happened to be in my hands at the time).

        3. Actually, the usual way to pay for a welfare state is to steal somebody else’s economy. That’s what the Germans and the Russians did. The problem is that that doesn’t work in the long run. What happens when there are no economies to steal anymore. When all the knowledge and creativity is separated from the capital needed to create new wealth?

          1. If it worked for the Romans, surely it was good enough for the Germans and Russians. Oh, wait, the Roman Empire fell apart after a while. Maybe not a good long term strategy after all.

            1. So did the Soviet empire.

              The German Empire, meanwhile, didn’t last long enough to fall apart. It got stepped on instead.

            2. Yes, the Roman Empire fell apart after a while, but it was a good long while. From the establishment of the Roman Republic to the capture of Constantinople by the Ottomans, some version of Rome (Republic or Empire) existed for almost 2,000 years, consecutively. If you ignore the Roman Republic and just count the Roman Empire, Western & Eastern, you still get 1,450 years. If you ignore the Eastern Roman Empire (and I don’t know why it doesn’t count, except that its capital was Constantinople not Rome), the Roman Empire lasted for 450 years.

              Of course the Roman Empire did have repeated crises, but it survived them.

        4. sadly not just lib-proglodytes. I’ve heard it from uninformed “conservatives”. The maroon who said that is lucky we cannot strike the stupid for being such in our workplace. (actually we cannot even tell them a truth if it hurts their precious feelings. Telling someone that if they were more careful to not scratch the paint, it would keep them from having to go and touch up the scratches afterward is frowned upon)

        5. Everyone here should have heard that. It was just a few years ago that “mint a trillion dollar coin” was being seriously floated by some public individuals.

          1. And the thing is that Obama was acting as this would actually solve some economic problem. He only retracted the idea when practically everyone who had any concept of economics started laughing at him. In some cases laughing nervously, giving his office and how much damage he could thus cause even floating ideas like that.

            It was at that point that I knew for sure that we were in economic deep doo-doo.

        6. The same people have no idea of the relationship between “money” and “value”. The two are not the same, in ANY economy. The value of libprogs in real terms has more or less collapsed, and their value is approaching zero – from below.

            1. I got into a conversation today with a bank officer as I cashed my check. I had to explain the concept of “hyperinflation” to him. And he didn’t fully get “inflation.” This is a bank officer. Admittedly, just at one or two levels above being a teller, but still — scary.

  3. Sure, our minders are lost in the narrative, but I truly do not think a fair portion of the people are.
    I have a number of friends in security and law enforcement. Was playing poker with a couple of them last night and asked if there were any special alerts for next week, specifically next Thursday. My friend with state DEA said no additional ramp up, but the consensus amongst those he hangs with is to expect multiple strikes on “soft” targets. Think Mumbai times a hundred. Of course this would have to be done by small isolated cells or lone wolf actors, but their biggest issue would be coordination. And with the current use of social media that’s not all that big a deal.
    So the day comes, the attackers will be put down like the rabid animals they are, but at some great loss of innocent civilian lives. And what then?
    Immediately after 9/11/01 John Ringo did a number of articles with reference to the zero option. That referred specifically to turning a large portion of the Middle East into a sea of green glass. I suspect that would be our elite’s solution, mostly to appease the masses and save their own sorry butts.
    I’m more concerned about a real medieval reaction from the American people. If we were to suffer significant loss of life in such an attack I expect retribution to be swift and final. And not just against those directly responsible, but also all those of such a faith as would ignore if not condone such actions.

    1. You’re not the only one watching 9/11 with trepidation. I do every year, but this year… This year I think we’re going to get hit. And what will result no one knows.

      1. Apropos of nothing in particular, I just happen to fool around with guns and ammunition. Do a little gunsmithing, a little reloading, some instruction, a bit of trading. A year ago you could not find an AR pattern rifle for sale at anything less than a premium over list price. This year, there’s a glut on the market. The elite would have us believe that the public have lost interest in the evil icky things. A trip to any gun range will show the fallacy of that opinion. What’s happened is everyone who wanted one now has one, often every person in their family has one. AR pattern rifles are nice, low recoil, adjustable to various body types and sizes, and we are awash in available ammunition.
        That famous Yamamoto quote is as true today as it ever was: behind every blade of grass.
        So to the RIF, take your best shot. Hell hath no fury like an armed and pissed of American. I’m sure we will feel really bad later, but you have no idea what you would be bringing down on your own heads with anything close to another 9/11.
        If this sounds like I’m wanting it to happen, oh hell no! It would put me, my kids, my grandkids, and everyone else I hold dear at risk. I absolutely do not want it, but apparently my wants mean nothing in the greater scheme of things. The RIF hate us, they hate everything we stand for. Our simple existence puts a lie to everything they believe, our society is counter to every tenet of their twisted version of a religion. Killing is the only way to stop them. Killing them over there is much preferred, but policies of our current leadership practically mandate that we will see some form of attack, and that sooner rather than later. And since symbolism seems to be important to our enemies, September 11 is obviously an important date, maybe not this one, but certainly soon.
        I would avoid malls, shopping centers, other places where people congregate next Thursday. Foolish and paranoid of me I know, but if there’s one chance in a thousand that I’m right, what does a day at home really cost you.

          1. Which is why 9/11 01 I didn’t know if Dan was alive (he was in DC and MIGHT have been at the pentagon) for hours. (He was in a secure conference, everything turned off and didn’t know of the attacks. When he came out he called me.) Weirdly that’s what Robert remembers of 9/11 “Mom in front of the TV chugging Jack Daniels from the bottle and crying.” even though he only saw a few minutes, after school ended. BUT since he’d never seen me cry before, or drink bourbon from the bottle before (I don’t think I ever did that before. It was my COOKING bourbon) the sight terrified him.

        1. Sounds much like my own response to one of the recent ISIS threats:


          You want to bring that here? Well, bring it.

          You want blood? We’ll give you blood. We’ll give you blood until you gag, until you choke on it. We’ll give you blood until you’re wading in it, until you’re swimming in it, until you’re drowning in it.

          We’ll give you blood until the only place they speak Arabic is in Hell.

          You may get me, send me to Valhalla, but there are plenty more behind me.

          You may convince those in power to leave you alone, but this is America. We have a long history of not listening terribly well to those in power. Those in power are finding they have a tiger by the tail, and the more they tighten their grip, the more furious that tiger becomes–and the sooner before their grip slips. And when that grip slips, the tiger will spring forth in all its fury.

          (Above quote from the blog.)

          1. I recently asked the I Ching what would happen with Americans in the fight with RIF, and got hexagram 18, Corruption/Work On What Has Been Spoiled, changing to hexagram 23, Stripping Away: the changing lines are 2 – setting right what has been spoiled by the mother, one must not be too persevering – which according to some explanations means that weakness has brought on the corruption, but one should set it to rights gently, and line 3 – setting right what has been spoiled by the father. There will be a little remorse, no great blame – which may mean that the people fixing the corruption do, after all, do it a bit too enthusiastically. But even if they overstep some, it needed to be done so no blame.

            And hexagram 23, Stripping Away, which in some translations is said to mean that the old, decayed part will be cut away, to expose the still healthy living core.

            But the different translations can often be quite different, to the point of sounding contradictory. Except since we are talking about the occult here – well, one should probably take the book one is consulting as the one which one should take, er, seriously for that particular reading. 🙂

            Make of that what you will, but in some ways it seems, well, either likely or at least a quite possible development.

            (And ‘these are only for entertainment purposes…’ 😀 ).

              1. Oh. I get it. Yesterday, I thought you were just saying, “go away.” I was starting to have a migraine of “can’t read or speak clearly or think in words clearly” variety. Yes, I do the I Ching every day, the coin two-throw per line method that reproduces the odds of the takes-about-a-half-hour stick variety. Or the “Psychic Science” online reading that reproduces the Yarrow Stalk odds. (if you click on the Yarrow button in the middle.) By the way, do you remember the I Ching reading I did for you Summer 2001? Your writing career will be reasonably successful, but it will take quite a while because the wall is about to fall into the moat, yes, the most total catastrophic line there is in this book, but it won’t hit you DIRECTLY, but will derail your career for several years. Pretty much the same reading the hero of “Man in the High Castle” got with war looming between Japan and Germany. Ancient Chinese gentleman got that one right.

                1. Not Summer 2001, could have been a couple of years earlier, but I remember clearly being horrified and trying to come up with a more cheerful interpretation of that hideous line.

          2. “the only place they speak Arabic is in Hell”

            Some days I think that’s a worthy goal. Then I feel guilty …

            1. Have you noticed how rare it is to see Muslims protest, much less fight against, Muslim oppression of non-Muslims? Even today, almost 13 years after 9/11, not to mention all the other anniversaries of Muslim atrocities, Muslim talk about tolerance is almost entirely about how the West must do more to “understand” Muslims and almost never about how Muslims need to cease behaving like vicious thugs.

          3. We can do better than spray and pray. Target discrimination is a must.

            Never forget, there are a good number of arab christians. I met one of the local Melkite bishops once.

            1. Target discrimination is a must.

              There were a lot of non-Nazis in Germany, a lot of peaceful people in Japan, and so on.

              “If anyone causes trouble, we will kill him and the man standing next to him.”
              Provides a good incentive for people to either not be standing next to troublemakers or keep the troublemakers next to them under control.

              We’ve tried “lets play nice.” That’s what got us here.

              1. No Christians left in ISIS territory now. Their either dead or with the Kurds. That should make it a free fire zone.

              2. “If anyone causes trouble, we will kill him and the man standing next to him.”
                Provides a good incentive for people to either not be standing next to troublemakers or keep the troublemakers next to them under control.


        2. In certain parts of America (Arizona, Colorado, parts of Texas, Wyoming etc.) the TNJs might get a bit more than they bargained for.

          Police will show up and break out the mops.

      2. Knowing that the US is a sleeping giant, this would be the best, for certain values of best, year to hit us hard – from their POV. Doing so will ensure a strong militant/retributional flavor of candidates that gets elected come November, while still granting them a restraining/moderating limp wrist on the wheel in the White House. Thus, they get to stab the giant, without the giant doing anything to seriously defend itself. Whereas following this path in two years would result in a newly elected President Buckman from Tom Kratman’s Caliphate. Screw up the timing and we will elect a president that will take the gloves off and simultaneously hoist the middle finger at the media and the UN.
        The problem is…this country is ripe for candidates that are willing to hoist that finger RIGHT NOW. We don’t really need anything else to rile us to that, we simply need someone to rally behind. We are, unfortunately, already ripe for a President Buckman from Tom Kratman’s Caliphate.

          1. But, but…the SHINY!!! 🙂

            Oh, sorry, ma’am. I didn’t mean to track any dirt in. And I haven’t touched anything, yet. Umm, you probably should put THAT in a cabinet somewhere, though. You probably don’t want just anybody to see *that*. Oh, look at the time! I really must be running along…

                  1. Sword and Blood, under Sarah Marques is. It starts down and each of the books plunges further. It literally got downloaded into my head when I was exhausted. All three books. First sold to a small publisher who not only dropped it on the floor, but whose statements are laughable, so I’m waiting for reversal to write the other two. Should you wish to read the first, tell me and I’ll email. (I want it to revert.)

                    1. I have read some things…

                      If you manage to shock me, seriously squick me, or elicit anything more than “Wow” I’ll pay you hardback prices for the privilege.

                    2. You retire to Disney anything I lay odds you’ll be begging to go back to work inside the week.

                      I give it the week because sometimes they have elephants.

                    3. Huh–downloaded–that reminds me of what…uh, yeah…. I almost got pictures of the July 13th launch from Waldrops Island. It’s not as spectacular in the full daylight as at night. I thought I was seeing an airplane at first and then it dawned on me that the shiny aircraft wasn’t going level but up and up and away.

                    4. I’m pretty sure I read the first chapter of that a couple years ago that you posted as a teaser. It had very definite possibilities, but I wasn’t aware you had any of those published. (I knew you finished it, but thought for some reason that the publisher didn’t actually follow through with the publishing)

                    5. No they cancelled the second. The second book is almost written — but I don’t like them/didn’t work well with them, and I like their statements even less, and so I’ll wait till it reverts to finish the second and write the third.

                    6. And now you tell us not to buy. 😦 Hopefully the publisher doesn’t hang onto it just out of spite.

                    7. I still have books to send you — sorry, life got interesting right about when I was ready to. In fact, I’d promised Cedar books in… February and just sent them a week or so ago — if you want, I can throw one of the extra contrib copies in? Clears space, it does.

                    8. I’ll never turn down free books from you. 🙂 And yes I would like to see where you take such a story.

                    9. Can I get in on the vampi- I mean Sword and Blood? *Looks around shiftily to make sure no one heard that* ;p

                    10. Hadn’t read it yet, though. Which I’m doing now, but I’m slow, so I haven’t yet made it even past the end of the part you posted as a teaser a while back, but I’m working on it.

                    1. That’s Snuggleums. He’s a big puppy, very affectionate.

                      With Sarah.

                      With everybody else he’s just very hungry. I take a pocket full of chickens to keep him distracted when I’m in the diner.

                    2. Chickens? I’ve been bringing him Armadillos. He likes to bat them about before eating them and enjoys the crunchy shell with the chewy center.

                    3. Oooo — armadillos. I bet I can get those cheaper than chickens. Not much call for fried armadillo.

                    4. I’m in Texas, finding a round armadillo is not a great deal harder than finding a flat armadillo…

                      Keeping a batch of armadillos to placate salivating dinosaurs — that’s more difficult.

                    5. Unfortunately I’m in Reidland, er I mean Nevada so I only drive through Texas. I didn’t know armadillos came in round

                    6. 😀

                      Well, you can be forgiven for thinking the flat armadillo was the dominant species, then.

                    7. Armadillos, the Texas State Speed Bump. Will seriously mangle a tire if you hit ’em wrong. Not hard to catch, but as someone mentioned, hard to keep caught. Since Snuggleums prefers them alive (otherwise, he might eat you), it sometimes gets difficult. Buried chicken-wire does NOT work. Of course, they LOVE to dumpster-dive, which helps catch them. Have to be very careful catching them — they DO bite!

                    1. Me, personally, or the collective you? Because you know *I* don’t have to. I think like you too much already. 😉

                    1. I — well, I was trying to break it to him gently.

                      If he saw Sarah with the cotton gloves on and wrapping it in plastic for future use…

                    2. It was accidentally shelved with the cookbooks. I guess somebody thought it was sauce for elder gods…

                      What? It had your name on it! You’re the recipe guy! So…

        1. It’s plausible, but I think unlikely.
          More probable is for Section 4 of the XXV Amendment to be invoked after a few months of dithering. With Obama removed, and Biden installed in his place, we would go to war in the tradition of FDR and Truman.

          The media would love the “too pure for this fallen world” narrative. They’d get on board quickly enough. (Not to mention that I’m sure a number of them have grudges over various snubs.)
          Congress loathes Obama (the Democrats he’s hung out to dry would almost assuredly love a bit of payback).
          The Democratic party in general would love to have a sitting war-time President on the ballot in 2016.
          The big question is if such an act would shatter the Democratic coalition. Most directly by removing a figurehead regarded as aspirational by blacks. But there’s a good bit of evidence that they could get away with it.

          1. I suspect there would be a lot of “he’s not really black” stories “unexpectedly” published about his ancestry on his dad’s side.

        2. I don’t know. Hitting us this year may very well end up in enough hardasses being elected to override the President.

          1. Yes, but you guys are overthinking it. They don’t really GET us and part of this is scaring us. They don’t understand we might get pissed AT ALL. Look, no Arab army has ever won against anything but an Arab army because they run like rabbits when the other guy doesn’t cower. Between Arabs I’m not sure how that works. But they’re convinced (their holy book tells them so) if we have a confrontation, they win, period. And by keeping quiet about Benghazi and getting the idiot elected again, we’ve got in their heads “you can scare us into electing patsies.”

            1. Oh, I get that. I was just disagreeing with Bruce’s assessment of the election repercussions.

            2. I’ve read that the crucifyings and beheadings that ISIS has been performing make perfect sense… if your audience is Arab. That’s the kind of thing that will intimidate Arabs. Of course, ISIS doesn’t seem to realize that this sort of thing merely induces disgust and contempt in the US.

              1. We aren’t that much more afraid of death by torture or beheading than we are of death in general. The thing ISIS doesn’t get is that they have to win to inflict said deaths, and we don’t think they can win against any Western forces.

                What we need to start doing is prosecuting or simply mass-executing prisoners for war crimes. Our failure to kill or keep; most of the prisoners we held at Gitmo is directly in part responsible for ISIS right now — a lot of their leadership are Gitmo graduates.

                  1. And, honestly, they’re terrified. I know it’s weird to say, but the ones that haven’t lost all their braincells to the cause (ie the ones pulling the strings) saw what happened when western soldiers and western ideas started getting into THEIR people’s brains. Especially the notion that the people didn’t have to put up with being slaughtered and terrorized. They have to impress THEIR people that no, that was a fluke. That it can’t work that way anywhere, because the notion of ‘why can’t we make it work here?’ eats away at EVERYTHING they want to achieve.

                  2. There are a few people in the ME who understand, at least around the margins, that the U.S. has conducted the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan at a level substantially below our full (non-nuclear) capability. Certainly after the first few actions of the invasions.

                    We have never turned those countries into battlegrounds such as seen in the World Wars.

                    These people have some inkling of what an unrestrained military assault would be like, and hope dearly that the radicals don’t bring such down on them.

                    Unfortunately, too many see a restrained U.S. military rolling the opposition up like a dirty rug (which is to say letting the fleas jump out the sides) and imagine they’re seeing near parity of force. They brought everything to bear that could be brought, and surely we did as well.

                    Nope, we brought what was needed, and a smidgen extra for margin.

              2. It’s not just intimidation to cow opponents. It’s also porn to attract supporters. This sort of depraved sadism is very popular in Muslim societies.

            3. Look, no Arab army has ever won against anything but an Arab army because they run like rabbits when the other guy doesn’t cower. Between Arabs I’m not sure how that works. But they’re convinced (their holy book tells them so) if we have a confrontation, they win, period. And by keeping quiet about Benghazi and getting the idiot elected again, we’ve got in their heads “you can scare us into electing patsies.”

              Way back in the 1990’s I started working on scenarios for the 21st century in terms of who would dominate the world. I concluded that the most likely candidate was the United States of America, followed in diminishing plausibility by the Chinese, Russians, Japanese and Indians in roughly that order. I thought about the Muslims, but then realized that (1) they’re too disunited, and (2) they have a literally religious faith in their ultimate victory that makes that ultimate victory impossible, because it leads them to play real-world “Kzinti” with other Powers, which is to say to “scream and leap” against stronger foes (exactly the mistake the Japanese made in 1937-45, and for exactly the same reason). What’s more, unlike the Japanese, the Muslims have so far showed zero ability to learn from their mistakes (for instance, Arab forces persisted in committing suicide-by-Israel long after the correlation of forces and outcome of engagements should have told them that this was a bad plan).

              I think that Islam is going to commit suicide by Great Power over the next century or two. The questions in my mind are mainly “how fast?” and “how long will it take the Great Powers to realize that they have to not merely win wars but also roll back Islam through conversion, suppression of the Faith, and recolonization?”

              I’m guessing no more than 50 years, maybe less, before we start to see victorious Western, Russian, Chinese and Indians bulldozing mosques and executing imams en masse. It happens faster the more provocations the Muslims make.

              1. My impression on 9/11 was exactly that “They’re committing suicide” — and no, I didn’t think it would be immediate. We’re the giant and we’ll tolerate a lot of kicks before we smash the pigmy.

              2. Was thinking about it yesterday, just wondering what the response would be if we started flying planes over that dropped (instead of bombs), copies of the New Testament in the local languages.
                I don’t know what the literacy rate is like, and our elites would NEVER be so gosh-darn INSENSITIVE as to engage in such obvious propaganda… but those are the things we should be doing. As well as a Voice of America in the local dialects.
                Unfortunately, that would require some actual confidence in Western Civilization and its values, and a judgment that a) it’s worth defending, b) it’s worth advocating for, and c) it’s better for everyone than what’s currently in place in those areas.

              3. You left out two things, Jordan: (1) Corruption is not just a fad in Islamic nations, it’s the NORM; and (2) EVERYTHING done in a Muslim state must be subordinated to Islam. That means everything from leadership to the lowest caste. It also means that innovation is OUT. Their people don’t think that way, they can’t think that way, and they won’t be ALLOWED to think that way. PRIVATES in the US military can suggest innovations, and have them accepted. NCOs and junior officers have done innovative things in the middle of a battle that has resulted in victory. Our society is based on what works: theirs is based on what Islam will accept. That constraint keeps them thinking seventh century ideas will work in the 21st century as well as they did back then.

                As far as your listings of nations goes, I have to disagree. Yes, the US will probably be #1, just because the way we think. I would rate the EU as second or third, behind the US and possibly China. Russia is still too much of a command economy to succeed in the long term. China needs to rethink its “one child” philosophy, or go down the tubes. An all-male society (China isn’t there yet, but the imbalance is building) has no choice but to conquer or collapse. China will try conquest, but end up collapsing. India would be ahead of China, and in the long run, ahead of Russia. They’re slowly but surely setting aside their thousand-year history of caste differences, which in the long run will save them from stagnation and collapse. If they move faster, they will become even stronger.

                Japan is the wild card. An alliance of Japan, Taiwan, and Korea would be stronger economically than the EU, without much of the social baggage. I foresee the Japanese shrugging off their pacifism, rearming to stand against China, and linking with those other free nations in self-defense. I also expect them to determine their only choice to remain independent and not become a vassal of China is to become nuclear-armed. That will happen this decade.

                We live in “interesting times”. I foresee them getting even more “interesting”, regardless of who is elected to govern the United States or Europe.

                  1. The new “helicopter carriers” *cough* are a pretty strong hint that by Japan in that regard.

                    The problem, of course, is that while China’s posture suggests that it would be a good idea for Japan to dive headlong into rearmament, the Japanese constitution, and Japan’s inability to properly deal with the atrocities committed by its armed forces in World War 2, act to slow that. Japan could possibly change its constitution to allow full rearmament. But that would probably alarm its neighbors.

                    The question is, would it alarm those neighbors more than China’s current posture already does?

                    1. I’m not really sure – I mean, we pretty much have at that front either China, or ISIS (which is spreading throughout south-east Asia at present, and likely may already have a number of cells in South Asia) to pick from. I have my serious doubts that America will look this way when it’s already got the ME and Russia to worry about. If ISIS proves to big a threat, China is probably the only regional power with enough population and armament to sustain that war to keep ISIS from poaching what China likely sees as it’s ‘rightful target nations for resource farming.’ Australia is busy at the moment securing its own borders and making sure that it CAN weather potential invasion.

                      Japan is probably not going to factor as a worry for the rest of the region at present. Korea has interesting things going on; largely internal, that hint at the potential of eventual reunification – we just have to see if the current dictator up North is as genre-savvy as he seems to be.

                    2. For the record… South Korea, unless they’ve changed drastically in the last 5 years or so, will go down to a man before they Reunify on the North’s terms. They’ve been preparing for it since the Korean War, but they’re not going to let the northern nut dictate terms. They fought too hard to build themselves up after the Korean War. Honestly, my read is South Korea is the joker in the deck as far as the Far East is concerned. They’ve got something of a habit of kicking butt at the most unexpected times, historically. I’d have to bug my uncle Peter, who’s still in country, for an update to say with more surety.

                    3. I don’t think the reuinification will happen anytime soon – and I don’t think it’ll be with this guy. He seems to be laying groundwork with potential towards reuniting the Koreas though – and nowhere did I say it was on the North’s terms. Or it could go the other way and the status quo remains thoroughly enforced. But then, this is the bits of news we get out of there.

                      Korea-Taiwan-Japan aligning military-wise would be interesting – including in the realm of technology. My headache-derailed thought says “…and then mecha will be possible” – so don’t take that too seriously. ^^;

                    4. All we need is the right size/output power source and mecha are completely doable. Same goes for power armor.

                    5. China likes to dredge up the old WW2 grievances every few years, seemingly just to try and intimidate Japan. I can only imagine what sorts of noises would be made if Japan were to ditch that section of its constitution. Also, iirc, Korea’s current president is one who strongly favors China over Japan. I’d expect more noise from there if Japan tried to rearm.

                      And I suspect that a lot of trouble would come from within the country itself. The impression that I get from over on the other side of the Pacific is that a good-sized chunk of the Japanese population doesn’t want to ditch that part of the constitution, and would be very alarmed if an attempt was made.

                      If a group like ISIS does start making serious inroads in the traditionally non-Muslim East Asian nations (i.e. anywhere other than Indonesia…), then of course all bets are off. I would guess that would include MILF suddenly gaining a lot of power in the Phillipines, though I suppose you’d probably know more about that than I would.

                    6. ” I would guess that would include MILF suddenly gaining a lot of power in the Phillipines”

                      Seriously? What does MILF stand for in this context? It says a lot about your followers intelligence when none of them think this acronym might be detrimental to others taking you seriously.

                    7. To Shadowdancer:Duskstar:

                      China may be the first country to hit on the winning strategy in the war against Islam: rollback. If the Muslims are dumb enough to launch serious attacks against the Chinese — and the evidence is that they are — look at the attempts of the Uighur Muslims to drive the Chinese out through riots and lynchings (!!!) — the Chinese may just decide that their whole Muslim population is socially untrustworthy and drive out or liquidate them. There’s nothing anyone could do to stop the Chinese if they did that, either.

                      Once other countries see that China’s policy succeeds, enthusiasm for it may spread abroad.

                    8. The MILF are being their usual opportunistic selves – and given their past history I highly doubt they’ll keep their declared ideals.


                      The MILF portrayed its moderate leadership as vital to stopping the ideology of Islamic State (IS) infecting the southern Muslim regions of the mainly Catholic Philippines.

                      “The MILF condemns barbarism and savagery whether done by other groups including the ISIS or even by its (MILF’s) own members,” the MILF said in an editorial posted on its http://www.luwaran.com website this week.

                      “Frankly, it is the power, moderating line, and influence of the MILF that hinders the birth of a truly strong radical group.”

                      The MILF also said a planned Muslim autonomous region that is the centrepiece of the peace deal would be a bulwark against the ideology of the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIS.

                      Mind, they already HAVE Muslim Autonomous Regions in Mindanao. There was one recently granted and then the Basangmoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF – yes, they don’t really think about the acronyms they produce) broke away from the MILF saying that the terms agreed on were NOT what they wanted and thus would continue fighting. The MILF themselves are a breakaway from the MLF when the Moro Liberation Front got their Muslim Autonomous Region… and so on.

                      And the MILF are lying through their teeth. There was an arrest recently of an Australian Islamic preacher who had been recruiting Filipino Muslims to go fight for ISIS, and local news radio has been reporting that there have been plenty of men willing to go, their going greased by ‘lots of money for their families.’ (I’d link, but, link limit. It’s easy to find though: Philippines arrests Australian over ties to militant group ISIL )

                      The UN ordered several besieged Filipino UN peacekeeping soldiers to surrender to ISIS – and the commander went ‘fuck that’. From Frontpage Mag:

                      Gen. Gregorio Pio Catapang said he advised the 40 Filipino peacekeepers not to lay down their arms, and they defied the UN peacekeeping commander’s order. Instead, they staged a daring escape from the Golan camp over the weekend, ending a tense, days long standoff.

                      Because there’s a pretty good chance that the general’s already previously dealt with Muslims as the enemy force – back in Mindanao. It may amuse but the general’s surname, Catapang – contains the root word for ‘brave’ in Filipino.

                    9. @Jordan – Yeah. Thailand, the media-overlooked abuses of the Rohingya Muslims (they’re reportedly so bad that the neighboring Muslim countries refused to grant them refuge!) against the Buddhists is an often overlooked and ignored example of why there might be better support for the Chinese should the war with ISIS spread to Asia (and it likely already has begun http://www.establishmentpost.com/asean-must-get-rid-isis-southeast-asia/ ) so it’s pretty much a question of ‘lesser evil.’

                    1. Adding the Islamic was necessary to avoid confusion, as Tom Lehrer points out:

                      We might not need a lullaby, but that’s no reason to eschew one.

                1. It’s my understanding that Japan and Korea…don’t get on well. An alliance between them would likely be a matter of pure necessity (ie: ally or be overrun by someone else).

                  1. From what I’ve seen, it mostly depends on the leadership of the respective countries – particularly Korea. Korea has a lot of legitimate grievances regarding the Japanese in World War 2. And Japan hasn’t exactly done well in addressing its misdeeds from that era (flat out ignoring them would be a better way to phrase it in many instances). And Korea always has a choice between playing nice with Japan, or playing nice with China (who can influence North Korea to a certain extent). So any time a new Korean president is elected who’d rather side with China over Japan, there’s a list of legitimate, if old, grievances to bring up ready and at hand.

                  2. No, Korea and Japan do not get along well. Korea has always gotten along better with China than Japan, though currently they’re not really thrilled with EITHER. Things have mellowed enough that if Japan was desperate Korea wouldn’t just leave them to fry, but that’s very recent… especially for Far Eastern values of Recent. Korea would be more likely to try and kick US to sense than ally with the other two. (It wouldn’t surprise me to find out some of that kicking was currently on going.)

                2. Japan is engaging in joint military exercises with India. India is reported to be addressing its problems with Pakistan (who have been happily accepting financial and military aid from the Chinese. I believe Vietnam has demonstrated willingness to unite against Chinese hegemony in the region.

                  Gee, if only there were a part able to engage in smart diplomacy and help unify the various states in a counter-Chinese strategy.

                  1. Someone – Japan, I think – recently announced that they were giving the Vietnamese a few small ships.

            4. I thought about this some more while I was driving today, and I think I know why they don’t understand.

              I think they don’t get the difference in scale. They see themselves as the Mob enforcer silencing a witness by killing their cat and vandalizing their car. We see their efforts as that of a schoolyard bully who can barely intimidate the biggest nerd in school by knocking off his glasses, but decides he’s going to go after the whole football team. At once.

          2. Most of the world doesn’t really process that congress CAN override the president and the two aren’t supposed to get along. The Arabs get that even less than the Persians. Hell, most Arabs and Persians are shocked that we can even openly speak ill of our governments rather than veil the insults carefully, much less be outraged when they’re incompetent or corrupt. If you want a good look at the Arab mindset, look up T.E. Lawrence’s writings on the subject. They’re still used in cultural briefings and they’re still accurate to that mindset.

            1. While in a crafts store with Rhys yesterday, we listened to an older hippie type lecturing the cashier about how the world is in such a mess because we Westerners were blaming everything on the poor Muslims, and how it’s not the religion at fault, but tribalism and old tribal laws, and how ignorant we all were of that and not respecting it. She walked out all proud that she’d ‘educated’ someone random.

              When we got to the counter, I couldn’t help but mutter ‘Yet another brain dead leftist.’ Rhys said that the old hippie was wrong, religious laws and tribal customs are no different and are enforced by law, which the religious leaders dictate – he’d know, since he lived in Saudi Arabia for four years. While there are perfectly lovely people over there, the standards of behavior are chosen by those in power. He cited the ‘make an adult man kin by breastfeeding from the house’s mother’ as an example of ‘wait that makes no sense’ laws proscribed. The poor woman behind the counter shuddered. She asked why we didn’t step into the conversation and we said, sadly, that the old woman clearly had her mind all made up and the only way she’ll get it changed is when she sees firsthand that what she believes doesn’t meet reality. The best we could do is correct misinformation spread.

              And ultimately, that’s where the battleground lies outside the Middle East.

                1. They’re the folks who get the whitewashed pre-Medina principles of the Koran helpfully taqqiya-ed to them, the folks who have met only acculturalized Muslims and don’t realize that Sharia doesn’t just apply to Muslims only, but describes exactly how non-Muslims are to be treated under those laws.

                  I used to be one of those people who thought – in my far distant naive youth – that Islam was no less violent than any other religion in the world – it is a nice, comforting lie because it makes people think ‘oh they’re no different from us, they think the same things and value the same things’- and people do not handle it well when that lie is revealed. I’m not that naive little girl any more, and yes, the reveal of the lie took a while to get over.

                  A more benign example is the total incomprehensibility some of the younger folk display when it comes to the concept of ‘sacred hospitality.’ They can imagine it in say, The Dresden Files but they can’t imagine it actually operating in ‘real life’ or modern cultures.

                  1. If Sting were to re-write “I hope the Russians love their children too” for Islam, it would have to be “I guess the Muslims don’t love their Children. (oooh)”.

              1. … it’s not the religion at fault, but tribalism and old tribal laws …

                That brings to mind the old saw about Shakespeare’s plays not having been written by William Shakespeare, but by another person of the same name!

          3. That’s looking actually likely whether they hit us or not. BUT…even if a Congress somehow magically remembers where it put its marbles, we will still have a panty-waist-in-chief that will set the rules of engagement that are designed to get our people killed and protect the enemy. Even if he should be removed from office, we’d still be stuck with a bumbling idiot and an administration that is hell bent on castrating our military.

            1. Well that “bumbling idiot” may be smarter than Obama *and* may let the military do its thing. Note, letting the military do its thing includes authorizing whatever ROE the military thinks is best.

            2. Biden *is* a bumbling idiot.
              That said:
              He’s on record supporting an independent Kurdistan.
              A far as I’m aware, he has no record of trying to castrate the military.
              He has certainly never argued for unilateral nuclear disarmament.
              He’s never publicly declared that he’s smarter than his advisers.
              There’s no evidence he’s sympathetic to Muslims of any stripe.
              He shows every sign of realizing that the military is a blunt instrument.
              He’s shown no tendency to micromanage.
              He very clearly wants ISIS dead and disgraced, and hasn’t minced words about this.
              He has publicly acknowledged that when Islamists declare that they want to kill us, they really, actually, mean it.

              All of this puts him head and shoulders above the current bumbling idiot.

              We don’t need a genius.
              We need somebody smart enough to place “this side towards enemy” and clack the clacker.

              1. We’ve shown how much we have progressed by having a black man as president.

                It is now high time to progress even further and have a person of special needs be president.

                Paid for by Joe Biden for President in 2014

            3. Those wily founders did leave a back door.

              It will never happen, but Congress can issue letters of marque without the involvement of the executive, though traditionally, they delegate it to the Dept. of State or to customs agents in Treasury (though now I think that’s in DHS).

              1. That would solve the pirate problem in about 6 months. It would also deal with the Chinese poaching in Philippine waters maybe. I’m not sure how that would work for ground battalions, but there is a lot of talent sloshing around free at the moment.
                Oh, wow. If Francis declares a Novum Ordinis Templari, however…

                  1. new templar order in my latin that is actually just Spanish looked at crooked.
                    It got me through Mio Cid, at least

                    Sarah! An idea, maybe we don’t need a lullaby, maybe we need a Chanson!

        3. If they hit us now Obama won’t have a choice. If he wants ANY seats in the house and and to keep any contested seats in the Senate he’d HAVE to do something sufficiently damaging and it would *have* to look competently done. He would have to look at the SecDef and say “do something and make it look good”. Idiot Boy…I mean Hagel would have to look at the Joint Chiefs and say “win it fast”.

          1. I am impressed by your confidence in the voters in the home districts of Nancy Pelosi, Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Alcee Hastings, John Conyers Jr. …

            As for senators not facing reelection this fall, I have two words: Recall elections. Depending where we get his we might even see a Republican senator from California (although if Babs Boxer campaigns in combat gear, going full battle rattle, I wouldn’t put money on it.

            1. Sheila Jackson Lee is losing her luster in Texas. She may lose big enough to overcome the fraud, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

      3. If we don’t get hit next week, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

        On the bright side (so much as there is one) the most likely targets are overwhelmingly home to those individuals who actively worked to thwart our victory in the last round.

    2. The elite will never use nuclear weapons. In the aftermath of 9/11 several of us were surprised by a progressive who said that even if they had used nuclear weapons, responding in kind was ‘wrong’ and it didn’t matter how many Americans were killed, we shouldn’t ever strike back at the killers.
      We told him he was screwed in the head wrong.
      BTW, I’m going to be away on 9/11. I have already decided that I’m taking protection on this trip. Never before have I been concerned about my safety and the safety of those traveling with me in America that I felt I had a -responsibility- to go armed.
      I just hope that if things do blow up, that by 9/12 Congress has removed the moron from office.

      1. never travel without some form of protection. never.
        paranoid? maybe, but tis far better to have and not need than to need and not have.
        as a cop who once worked in Cali was telling some Chicago folks who were complaining about the state keeping them disarmed ” Do you do stuff that causes the cops to stop and frisk you every day? Has a cop ever stopped you for no reason and frisked you? Then get something you can carry to protect yourself.”
        Me, I just avoid the People Republic of Chicago and the Democratic State of Illinois at all costs.
        I have been stopped for the crime of riding a motorcycle on the roads of Chicago. They pulled over everyone on a bike using the tollway. How often do they do that to autos looking for the uninsured or unlicensed?

        1. They wouldn’t pull people over looking for unlicensed drivers here in California. They might accidentally arrest a few illegals that way…

          /snark off

          1. The snark was misplaced there, I think. Seriously.

            Glad we’re out, now to get the last of the kids (son and daughter-in-law) out of the state. It’s beautiful, but it’s run by malignantly crazy people in the state assembly and bureaucracy.

          2. Driving without a license is apparently just a ticket here in CA these days, and not even a moving violation, more along the lines of a fix-your-burned-out-taillight fixit ticket.

            The last two people to hit my wife’s car (yes, it does seem to have some sort of bad driver attractant embedded in it somewhere) were not only unlicensed, but undocumented and uninsured (all the first driver had was her consular ID and barely spoke English; the more recent young lady, apparently fully acculturated, did have an insurance card, but that turned out to be not real).

        2. They’ve been periodically doing checkpoints at the mouth of the road I live on. Pisses me off no end to be stopped on my way back from picking up younger son at his friends’ house and being required to show ID and Registration just for driving.

          1. Happens here in DC area all the time (or at least it did until we got soft on “undocumented workers”. As much as I dislike it I grit my teeth and present my license. Driving is a privilege, not a right, and we agree to produce the required license when requested to do so by a sworn representative of the local law enforcement (after said individual properly identifies himself) – just don’t ask my passengers to show theirs or ask to search my car. I may have to prove that I can legally operate my vehicle, but they are not required to prove they can be in said vehicle. And if you want to search my car, better have a warrant in hand. 😉

            1. The structure of the country has caused driving to be a requirement, and prior to about 15-20 years ago, driving was de facto considered to have the same protections as walking, ie not being stopped without probable cause. It’s the beginning of something far more restrictive, and needs to be stopped.

              1. You’re forgetting DUI check points, which have existed for well over 30 years (as long as I have been driving)

                I do agree, somewhat, but, having been on the other side, I also know that being an ass serves no purpose except to get the stop extended. Yes, annoying the cop will get them to take their time.

                And, you’d be surprised what can be used as probable cause to initiate a traffic stop.

                1. THAT kind of thing (the whole notion of, “No one can drive more than three blocks without a traffic violation”) needs to be stopped, too.

                  No, I didn’t forget DUI checkpoints, but those would be harder to stop, as they have pre-notification requirements, are highly targeted, and can be tied very closely to public safety. However, those are supposed to be ONLY DUI checkpoints, and when they go outside that boundary, they need to be taken to task, hard. Via the legal system, though.

                  1. Okay, Cop talking here: (okay, it’s been a few years, but I didn’t ferget everything I learned)

                    Don’t want to get stopped? Then don’t do anything to attract my attention.

                    Make sure your lights work, and you’re using them when you should – that includes your turn signal. Oh and that little light over your license plate, make sure that works.

                    Come to a complete stop at signs / lights.

                    Obey traffic control devices. eg, lights and signs – including the ones that show the speed limit.

                    Keep yer hands on the steering wheel.

                    Watch that road rage.

                    And for the love of mercy, don’t weave.

                    Okay, joke aside, there is an increasing attitude among the local police/sheriff that everyone has broken the law, they just haven’t been caught and yes, that attitude needs to stop. Our locals have taken to wearing level 2 Kevlar outside their uniforms. Pisses me off to no end. The only reason to do that is intimidation. (we wore ours under our uniforms.)

                    Yeah, I have a love/hate mentality about our locals. I use to be there, so I try to be respectful, but I Hate the attitudes I keep seeing. -sigh-

                    1. Yes, the “everybody is guilty” mentality is what I had in mind. Actually, I rarely have trouble with cops, even when I’ve been stopped, because I don’t act like an ass.

                    2. Back around 1970 the City of Detroit and affiliated townships (where I briefly resided) did not require regular vehicle inspections, addressing the issue instead by instituting a practice of routine roadblocks and vehicle inspections.

                      Yeah, when you were under pressure it could be a pain in the bladder.

                      Of course, back then vehicular inspection did not worry about such things as non-visible tail pipe emissions; they were quite able to confirm working headlights, brakes and such other desiderata as sober drivers in possession of license and registration.

                      Shucks, they didn’t even care if your seatbelt existed, much less was fastened. Mostly it allowed officers to give drivers and passengers the fish eye and observe for signs of undue stress, aka behaving suspiciously.

              2. Not sure about back east where you guys are, but most Western states still have laws on the books that the cop must of probable cause for stopping you. Of course all he has to say is, “you were driving erratically,” that is probable cause and how are you going to prove you weren’t? Still it does prohibit them from having checkpoints.

            2. No, driving is a right, not a privilege. They want you to believe it’s a privilege but where in the constitution does it say that? And why haven’t they added an amendment?
              We all got snookered on that one.

              1. While I agree with you, case law does not. My dad happens to work for the Dept of Licensing, and testifies in court multiple times a week. (He testifies simply on what the persons drive record says, and what their status was, revoked license, suspended license second degree, valid license, expired license, etc., at the time of the violation.) That is one of the most common defenses attempted by “Constitutionalists” representing themselves (because no lawyer will attempt that defense). They lose 100 times out of 100 on that defense.

                1. Driving is a right; use of the public roads is a privilege. Driving anywhere else is a matter between driver and property owner.

              2. Respectfully disagree. ((Caveat here, I am not speaking a small case right. I am referring to a uppercase Right – in other words, a Right granted by the Constitution or a state governing document of similar nature.))

                Privilege: a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.

                Right: something to which one has a just claim (being able to practice your religion or express an opinion without fear of persecution.)

                You have to pass a test proving a level of competency to obtain a driver’s license in every state in the union, making you part of a particular group. Ergo, driving on a public roadway is a privilege, not a right.

                Erm, ignoring that personal motor vehicles didn’t exist in the 1780’s, the mere fact that nothing in the US Constitution, or any state governing documents, hints at a Right to transportation, indicates to me that it (driving, riding, etc) is not, nor has ever been, a Right.

                1. The constitution does not grant rights. It protects rights and specifically enumerates some rights.

                  It is not incumbent on the individual to justify their rights, it is incumbent on the .gov to justify action in regard to those rights.

                  Now, I believe the case for regulation of driving is strong, but this doesn’t change the error of defining the actions of a free people as privileges granted by some authority.

                  1. A driver’s license is a thing I’ve never questioned but supposed we did treat operating a car the same as walking with regard to use of public streets?

                    You’d still be subject to state action for disorder even if it was inadvertent. And of course, you’d be subject to liability for damage you caused which would be a strong incentive to adopt acceptiable safety standards to acquire the necessary insurance to cover the inevitable accidents.

                    1. I’ve read some good libertarian arguments very much along the lines you’ve laid out. It’s an argument I’m philosophically sympathetic to, but — bigger windmills before us at the moment.

                      I’m just really irked by the “privilege” argument, primarily because I believe it gets the role of government exactly backwards.

                2. Except that this displays a fundamental misunderstanding of the Bill of Rights. Those were not an exhaustive list, and were argued against by several people for this explicit reason: that those who would come after would consider them to be so, and would therefore proceed to regulate or otherwise limit other rights which were not explicitly stated.

                  Rights are intended to be assumed, and the State must make an argument to limit them. The fact that nothing hints at a Right to transportation is more an indication that no one considered it possible that anyone would place limits on transportation besides limiting the places where one may go (Private property, for example), rather than not having ever been a Right.

      2. I don’t know that the elite won’t use nuclear weapons, given significant provocation (like losing an American city).

        I do know that the failure to come out and say that they would use nuclear weapons means that the odds that they will actually have to make that decision increase substantially, and we are much more likely to end up seeing nuclear weapons used if the people that would never ever use them have their way.

        To take an example, I’ve seen some sincere progressive-liberal types, in the course of a single conversation, insist the following:
        A) Israel is too harsh on the Palestinians and needs to respond to provocations in ways that don’t kill so many Palestinian “youths” and “bystanders”.
        B) Israel has nothing to fear from Iran’s nuclear programs because Iran won’t use the bomb because it would be nuked.
        The deterrent to Iran’s threat to nuke Israel is that Israel will retaliate against Iran, and is in fact willing to kill all of Iran’s 90 million people, most of them innocent bystanders, to keep the peace. If Israel is squeamish about killing a couple of Palestinians as people are telling it to be, then how can it credibly deter Iran?

      3. FWIW the airlines get…anxious…if you put 400 or 500 rounds in your checked luggage. Even if it is less than 5 kilos that’s in the rules.

        1. Oh, but I should note that if you check a gun in your bags, and they wind up on a plane you didn’t get on the airlines try REALLY REALLY hard to get them back to you. Even in the middle of a christmas rush screwed up by weather in Denver.

    3. Certainly, after 9/11/01 I heard a number of people (NOT the “elites”, who would never be so declasse) speak of the desirability of making Kabul into a lake of glass.
      I don’t think our academically-pacifist-internationalist elites would go for the zero option even to save their sorry butts, because they could never believe THEIR butts were on the line.
      Our military/political elites, on the other hand, would take some action; but it would be constrained – somehow a thousand missiles flying, a thousand bombs dropping, and 50,000 boots on the ground are less horrifying to them than one really big boom.

      1. Keep in mind that our “elites” while preaching disarmament of the civilian population constantly surround themselves with armed bodyguards. They are invariably cowards of the worst sort.
        Yes, nukes would never be on the table as long as they were safe. Should they feel threatened, different story.
        A few significant attacks in the D.C. metro area and you’d be surprised how hawkish the usual suspects would suddenly become.
        Hypocrisy thy name is liberal progressive.

        1. Somehow, when they talk about “only 10%” are radicals, and I point out that that’s 100 million or more, then they turn around and say, “But you can’t kill that many people”.

          Of course, my response is, “If they want to kill ME, I sure as hell can.”

          1. You don’t have to kill all of them, merely enough to convince the remainder to pursue other career options.

          2. Genghis Khan succeeded in bringing peace to the region while killing less than half that many. I suspect if we employed the same tactics we could be at least as successful.

        2. I have been criticized — to the point of actual persecution through criminal fraud — for stating that we should have fought Iran in 1979, and for later hawkish statements about how to deal with Muslim foes. I suspect that if a Muslim nuclear attack occurred on a progressive city such as New York or San Francisco, I would be criticized by the very same people for arguing that it was not necessary to kill every single Muslim on the planet.

          Why? Because I’ve understood the danger for two decades now. The progressives would be surprised by it. And angered beyond reason, when some of their friends wound up dead or maimed.

          1. When you first commented here, I did a search. (I do, though not always, but when I have just blocked chlamydia, which I’d just done.) I know that history. I was afraid you’d be ptsded over it. I’m glad you’re perfectly reasonable.

          2. In Ringo’s hot gates trilogy he talks about the shift in national politics and policies that would occur if the large (liberal) population center were annihilated.

            1. Good series–in one part the hero goes something like “Ha! You destroyed the cities! The cities are our enemies!” (Only he sorta didn’t really mean it.)

              A war over maple syrup; who would believe it?

      2. The point is, what and where would you nuke? ISIS is so fundamentalist, they are talking about destroying Mecca themselves, because it’s idolatrous or something.

        1. Their supporters live in and hold power over particular locations. Those locations could be made targets. The liberals would be too upset about their own beloved dead to give a damn about enemy civilians at that point. See “World War II, Strategic Bombardment of Germany and Japan.” And for the actual Radical Left — well, I’m not sure which way they’d go. I think that if they chose to side with the Muslims, they might get lucky enough to just get rounded up and put in concentration camps for the duration of the war.

            1. I don’t think I want to see what these guys do with their version of the defenestration of Prague. (statement mostly an excuse to use Defenestration in a post. I don’t get to nearly enough.)

              1. The people in my region used to defenestrate their Muslim overseers so that they were only semi-supervised and never really conquered.
                I see your point. Using defenestration in the morning just makes the day right.

                1. I think the defenestration of various overseers might actually be beneficial. If it’s only a first story window they could have a chance to learn from the experience… Especially if no one can quite remember who did the defenestrating.

                  1. Is this the defenestration thread? Ah, good, I’m in the right place. My card:

                    EJC, Glazier.

                    1. For some reason, when I see or hear the term, I think instead of flaying (or flensing, which at least has more similar sounds). Then, when it’s about particularly horrible people, I get sad that it’s not one of those. 🙂

                2. Shouldn’t you defenestrate in the evening, so that you can get to sleep easily, and fenestrate in the morning to help wake up?

              2. There’s a closely related word that I think you’ll like: Transfenestration. It’s basically the same thing, except you don’t bother to open the window first.

                It’s also the basis of a Hollywood industry.

            2. All Islam is Protestant. No authority to decree — no, that’s out of bounds — or even, no, that’s a trivial point and so moot.

              1. It was a joke, Mary. Many Protestants consider Catholics to be Idolaters. Taking Fundamentalist Islam as the original, “Protestant” in this case would indicate an offshoot from that, which would consider their “Parent” organization to be Idolaters.

          1. There’s a particular subset of Islam – iirc its found among the particularly hardcore Wahhabists – that views monuments, historical locations, etc… as idolatry. Apparently they’ve gained enough control of certain key institutions in Saudi Arabia that they’ve managed to destroy some important historical landmarks in Mecca and Medina.

            I don’t know if they’d actually destroy the rock itself at the heart of Mecca. But I wouldn’t put it past them. And I’m confident that they’d happily destroy every single other structure in the city that’s more than ten years old.

            1. Of course. After all, it does not resemble the world in which their Prophet (may he burn in hell) was born, and to them the world of that time was ‘perfect’ – more accurately, everywhere needs to be transformed into the world that he knew. Modern technology has no place because it does not serve Islam, therefore it is haram, and eventually must be rid of.

              1. It’s not the technology…

                Anything and everything is considered fair game – even if it’s a former home of their prophet – because interest in seeing it might constitute idolatry. Actually, the situation is much worse than I thought. I glanced at the Wikipedia article on Mecca, and the article states that since 1985, 95% of the buildings over 1000 years old have been destroyed. Some of the destruction is to support people on the Hajj. But much of it appears to be more or less “just because”.

                As I mentioned, I don’t expect ISIS to destroy the Kabaa (literally the most sacred spot in Islam) if they manage to take control of Mecca. But I wouldn’t be completely surprised if they did.

                1. Anything and everything is considered fair game – even if it’s a former home of their prophet – because interest in seeing it might constitute idolatry.

                  Hmmm. So what would an obsessive fascination with the Koran and the Hadith’s constitute then, if not idolatry? I suspect that that possibility won’t occur to them though:-(.

    1. Note the collapse of the power and influence of traditional organs of cultural control influence. The only people still attending to the MSM are the elites and the Libtards (but I repeat …) The screaming, wailing and gnashing of teeth as their power ebbs from their faltering grasp shall be great.

      Look at the MSM, look at Publishing, look at Hollywood and remember, as the sage Kinky Friedman sang:
      I left barber college
      Searchin’ for knowledge,
      Went to the university.
      I must confess, sir
      This lady professor
      She turned me on to anthropology.

      Now I’m a homo erectus
      Got to connect this
      Bone that I discovered yesterday.
      Lived in the forest,
      Died because it’s heart got in the way.

  4. The west does not need to reinvent itself. It needs to stand up for its guiding principles and refuse to be moved by the encroaching darkness. Allowing our elites to attempt to reinvent the west is part of what has allowed this infection to grow to such immense proportions.

  5. There is a very old saying ‘Those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach.’
    There has been a huge move of late to promote teachers and tell everyone how wonderful and awesome they are, and how they deserve all sorts of money, power, and respect.
    Yet in all of my years in public school, and then private college, I can remember less than a handful of teachers who deserved anything approaching that kind of praise. Most didn’t deserve any praise at all, and quite a few actually shouldn’t have been allowed to even teach in the first place.
    It’s the same with the ‘elites’ we have had for the last fifty or so years, they can’t DO anything, but they believe that they can teach. So they have worked hard at promoting the ‘teachers’ in an attempt to put a bunch of people who can’t DO in charge and make themselves look good.
    With predictable results of course. Look at the people we have in office now, many have never done anything of value in their lives, except hold political office.

    1. Good teachers teach.
      Bad teachers go into school administration.
      Good lawyers practice law, enter a partnership, eventually a judgeship.
      Bad lawyers chase ambulances.
      Really bad lawyers enter politics.

      1. 0bama went to law school … did he ever even take the Bar to try and become a lawyer, or was that one more thing to be avoided so folks would not know just how poorly his brain works?

          1. You only relinquish your license to avoid lawsuit, massive censure, or serious punishment. So if he did indeed get pass the bar, that would explain why they’ve never talked about him practicing law. Because he got in legal trouble doing it.

          2. Both have placed their law licenses on inactive status. Whether for convenience or by necessity is anyone’s guess.

  6. I’m normally an non-interventionist. I’m just not that willing to go to war over something that isn’t a direct threat. For example, I opposed going into Iraq, but fine with Afghanistan. The Taliban was protecting the guy responsible for 9/11 apparently, so screw them.

    I’m seeing a lot of my former non-interventionist tendencies washing away. There’s a new threat, and they won’t be pacified by anything short of a bullet. Of course, I’ve always been partial to making a very public declaration that we’re dipping all rounds in bacon grease as a way to dissuade martyr wannabes.

    My own philosophy is to be slow to anger, but when it’s time to go to war, you descend upon your enemy like the fiery hand of the Almighty and leave nothing in your wake. I do not now, nor have I ever, believed in the concept of “overkill”.

    1. Well, except Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction and it was helping with the second intifada and….
      However, on the scale of things, Iraq didn’t celebrate 9/11. Palestinians did.

      1. Did not! And no right thinking progressive ever really believed they did. The Democrats just went along with the fiction because the Republicans are bullies.
        And that whole business about Sadam gassing thousands of Kurds? Made up just like those stories about the Holocaust. And all those transport trucks that lit out for Saudi just before the invasion? Just a few Iraqis going on holiday, visiting friends and families over the border.
        See, if I wasn’t retired I could so get a job writing AP history texts.

      2. However, on the scale of things, Iraq didn’t celebrate 9/11. Palestinians did.

        And we have … insanely … decided that this means we should support the Palestinians. We should have responded to this by telling the Israelis that — whatever they did to the Palestinians — they were getting diplomatic and military support from now till the threat ended.

      3. However, on the scale of things, Iraq didn’t celebrate 9/11. Palestinians did.

        Which is one of several reasons I believe the US should “help” the Israelis by ARCLIGHTing Gaza. There can NEVER be peace in the Muddled East until the “palestinian” question becomes moot.

        ARCLIGHT is more than just a dozen bombers dumping an unbelievable tonnage of iron bombs on a target. It is a psychological and sociological defeat that is difficult or impossible to overcome. The North Vietnamese generals said that if we had used ARCLIGHT more, or over the North, they would have had no choice but to accept defeat. LBJ tied the military’s hands in 1967, and even Nixon didn’t ease all of the restrictions.

        1. The idiotic thing is that we’ve been urging restraint on Israel for over three decades now. This prolongs the fighting. If Israel simply marched into the West Bank and Gaza and killed everything in there, leaving exits open for refugees to flee, it would take a month or so and when it was over, the Israelis could completely occupy and colonize the now-empty lands, and that would be pretty much that for the “Palestinian issue.” The surviving Palestinians would mostly be too terrified to ever anger Israel again, most of the frontline states ditto, and if some were still willing to keep attacking Israel again — “repeat, rinse, and occupy.” Eventually I suspect the bordering Powers would lose their appetite for permanently losing territory.

          1. Since many of those “urging restraint” really don’t want their to BE an Israeli state, it really isn’t idiotic to them.

    2. None of this is new.
      The threat has been both existent and obvious for some 16 centuries.
      😉 There’s a point when “slow to anger” becomes “wallowing in sloth”.

      But I do agree with you about the desirability of overkill.

      1. What is this “overkill” thing you speak of? I do not know this thing. I only know, “Open fire!” and, “I need to reload!”

          1. Bullets are (still) cheap. Life (well, mine and my families) is precious.

            There is only Open Fire and Reloading.

        1. ……aaaaaaaaand I’ve been hanging around here too much. I just had this thought pop in my head:

          “If you were a carbosilicate amorph, my love.”

          Hm. Needs more Genuine Imitation Ovalqwik…

      2. Overkill is a myth.

        Overkill is a term some use because they think there is some imaginary line where killing your enemies is too much. There isn’t.

        I’m of the belief that if you fight a war, you completely lay waste to your enemies. Annihilate them their willingness to tangle with you ever again. That’s not overkill. That’s making sure there’s no enemy left to fight the next time.

        Of course, there’s probably a reason I’ll never get to make those decisions. Go figure.

          1. Thanks Wayne. I was going to say something along those lines, probably involving nuclear hand-grenades or some such. You’ve made that unnecessary:-).

  7. One, maybe two, elementary teachers (2nd, maybe 1st grade), two middle school (Art & Computer Science), three high school (Math, Government, Metals Shop), and five college professors (Geology, Computer Science (my major), Math, Psychology (the only PHD in this list), and History). That’s all. 11 or 12 out of roughly 100 teachers in a 19 year education career in 3 different public school systems (in 3 States) and college that I would say could really teach. I consider myself lucky to have had so many good teachers. And people wonder why I despise the education system in this country.

    1. It’s not just in this country. The minds that both WANT and are suited to have power over the young are very rare. I was doing my own count. Elementary school teacher, Math teacher seventh grade. English teacher 10th and 11th (Not that she was a good person. She hit people with dictionaries when they had the wrong answer. BUT she taught the old fashioned way and finally got grammar through to me)…. MAYBE, qualified, 2nd year in College English teacher, but that might just be because she let me get away with reading an essay from a blank page. She walked behind me to look. I still got an A.
      In the states — 12th grade — I actually had an excess of excellent teachers. Mr. Hannah for advanced bio. Mr. Ziggler for math. And the gentleman whose name I’ve forgotten, who taught comparative political systems. Also, the one who taught computer programing. Oh, and the redoubtable Mrs. Kaufman for English Grammar, who terrified me but made me very grammatical (for a while.)

      1. I had a phenomenal history professor my frosh year of college. The man taught at warp speed and did so in a way that you understood why each event led to the next. We also had four novels assigned for that term, and one of them was Anna Karenina. Heck, he explained the Cuban Missile Crisis, which for some reason people of our parents’ generation always assumed we would get through osmosis or something, as it happened before we were born.

        The deeply unfortunate thing was that he always had time for other people, and didn’t take enough time for himself. He died two weeks after finals because of late-stage stomach cancer, because he didn’t make time to get the symptoms checked out.

  8. CLicking on all the links is much harder tha njust looking at all the funny/pretty pictures in the blog. But it is worth it to see concrete examples of the foolishness of our elites and narrative “shapers”.

  9. I admit it’s frustrating trying to wake people up when they seem insistent on sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling at the top of their lungs “LA LA LA CAN’T HEAR YOU AND YOU’RE A HATER HATER PICK A TATER LA LA LA LAAAA!”

    Alas, reality won’t let them continue doing this forever. Eventually, the Gods of the Copybook Headings return.

        1. oh, the hassle involved in the lead up is not worth it, but one takes it as one can get it. I’d enjoy it far more if they saw reality and accepted it for what it is instead of going all 2yr old about it.

                1. Move along now, nothing to see here.
                  Hey, did you hear about all those nekkid star pictures somebody hacked?

        1. ah, well, good eyesight is needed as I tend not to get close enough to get and splash on me if at all possible, and the truly dedicated will blame you as being at fault if you are that close.

        2. THIS. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t have a helpful computer voice telling you “You have fifteen minutes to reach minimum safe distance…” (Eventually I will show my daughter that movie… err, those two movies, I guess. Halloween sounds like a good time to do that…)

              1. And in mp3.

                [audio src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1177388/MCLE/You-now-have-15-minutes-to-reach-min.mp3" /]

                Incidentally, my dropbox folders are taking their sweet time syncing, so if it’s not up there right this second, (it’s about 10:40 Eastern right now), give it a half-hour or so and you should be good.

            1. The helpful automated countdown warning for the terraforming plant’s impending nuclear demise in Aliens.

      1. except for the dead.
        Look, there is a passage in a Don Camilo story where he goes out to bless the river so it won’t flood. (Yeah, I know, but go with it.) The communists have made it known no one is to follow in procession, because they’re not allowed to join with party flags. So, when the priest walks with the cross to bless the river, the communists and only the communists follow.
        And the priest, standing there at the water’s edge, makes the speech that keeps coming to me, “Lord, if the houses of the decent people floated, I’d ask you to rain till you submerged the Earth in a second flood. But since the houses of the good are made of the same stone as the houses of the evil, I beg you to keep the rain under control and for the river to behave like a gentleman of breeding.” (I’m quoting from memory, but it’s something like that.)
        These days I often find myself thinking “If decent people had an invisible shield, oh, Lord, I’d ask you to let the Jihadis do their worse, because maybe the idiots would wake up.” But since decent and even informed people are as likely to be killed by terrorism as the bubble heads, I ask you to keep us safe and make our enemies snare themselves.” (I know you’re not a believer, but that’s the general drift of my thoughts.)

              1. 9/11
                Fort Hood
                Boston marathon
                And that’s just CONUS.
                I could add to the list til my fingers bled if we look world wide.

                    1. oh, I hope I’m wrong. Like I hope I’m wrong about being hit on the 11th, but all the time at the back of my head, something is frozen watching what it knows is coming, and unable to prevent it. If that makes sense.

                    2. I don’t think that we’ll lose a city. I’m not so sure about the rest of the world. I could see Putin nuking an Eastern European capitol in order to demonstrate that he was in charge, knowing that NATO would do nothing.

                    3. If we don’t, it will solely be because of a lack of atomic weapons on their part. We are living in a fool’s paradise when we imagine that people who think that getting nuked by us will let them roll on the “Allah Intervention Table” for reinforcements will be deterred by our own weapons. The only way to deal with them is to keep them so weak and devastated that they are too busy struggling for survival to plan attacks on us, or under despots who understand that if they let attacks go on against us, they will be held personally responsible.

                      The Muslims are not ready for independence and freedom. Unfortunately for them, the long-term consequence will be diaspora.

                      Why am I so sure of this? Because they are angling for the role of “Judea” in the World Order.

                  1. That’s what’s most troubling. So far, NATO’s been able to sidestep Russian aggression because Ukraine and Georgia aren’t a part of NATO (both had applied, iirc). But if Russia reabsorbs the Ukraine, that will leave the Baltics, Poland, and Romania as nations on the Western border that are looking West instead of East. And all five nations are members of NATO.

                    That’s when things start getting problematic.

              2. It has, though. I was in a forum and someone said Obama has kept us safe for six years. Someone else brought up Boston and Fort Hood and they said “Domestic terrorism.” I wonder if this would have been the excuse if American born nazi adherents had committed such acts during WWII? And, btw, no one mentioned Benghazi which damn well WAS an attack on our soil (a consulate is de facto our soil)

                1. Oh, they have been far too active and successful, but they have so far not taken advantage of the massive holes we will always have (and with the current admin not monitored but spread open ala the southern boarder). Knownig the holes are there you keep an eye open. So far even blindfolded we have not had as much as I feared, nor as big as could happen.

                  1. Remember they’ve bred for centuries against anyone innovative enough to question the Koran and with enough initiative to say anything. Yes, you could sort of kind of say the same about the Christian Middle ages but — waggles hand — dissent was always more tolerated or perhaps “tolerated in a different manner” and discussion and interpretation encouraged. Koran encourages NO dissent. Add in absolute rulers in a land with polygamy. Oh, yeah, and an educational system predicated on memorizing (everything is memorization. Portugal has this too.) We should count our lucky stars THIS is the enemy.

                    1. European Christian dissenting thinkers were often nudged into the clergy where they could be re-educated and (more importantly) kept an eye on, rather than killed. That was supposed to take them out of the gene pool as well, but…

                    2. I’m not sure the target of this comment, but —

                      Lucky? You do realize the military significantly hobbled itself to fight those shepherds, yes?

                      They’re lucky they were fighting us. The U.S. military was willing to accept greater risk to keep it a low intensity conflict.

              3. They are remarkably incompetent. Had Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab practiced normal personal hygiene we would have lost NWA Flight 253

            1. I think they’ll need prep time for those 11 planes, to find jihadists who could fly them, fueling sites, etc. Not this August, or rather September, as the Hemingway quote goes that Kornbluth used as the title of an apocalypse novel.

              1. Except that was two weeks ago, and the difference is ISIS IS a state. Time… not as big a deal. Plus they KNOW (have to know) the longer they personally maintain those planes, the less chance they’ll fly.

                1. Would leave us out as a target. “Can we get anybody to fly this to London? Paris? How many infidels live in the Eifel Tower?”

                    1. First they have to get the planes to America and have them filled up with fuel to be destructive.

                      If they’re not hijacking existing planes, there’s nothing stopping them from filling the cargo area with explosives/incendiaries.

                    2. I’m just thinking of how much fuel it would take to get to the U. S. I don’t think these models have enough fuel tank room to get to New York from farther away than Paris.

                    3. They could hit London. Lots of Brits, indoctrinated on anti-Americanism for decades, would blame the US. And the Islamists already there will be emboldened. The Left has done their best to undermine the West, and the jihadis will exploit that.

  10. I realized why so many on the Left can’t see Obama’s lack of leadership. They see his muted, unemotional responses, his terrifying admission that he has no plan to deal with ISIS and his general disinterest in protecting his country’s interest as a positive. They see this as being honest and thoughtful, not a bellicose cowboy. And when Obama’s out of office, and Russia is poised to dominate it’s neighbors and the Caliphate flag flies over the Middle East, they’ll do what they’ve always done: blame it on Bush.

    1. They also don’t want to admit they voted for the color of his skin, not the content of his character, which makes them stupid, evil, and racist.

      1. Bush 43 will go down in history as the first president responsible for everything that happened during his successor’s eight years in office.


        1. And far beyond, I’m sure!

          Of course, when they do this, they’re tacitly admitting that Obama hasn’t really done much. 😉

      2. No no no, these days you’re SUPPOSED to see the color of their skin first, because privilege. If you don’t take color-of-skin into account first and foremost, you are an evil racey racist who races.

  11. I woke up this morning thinking about “Revelations”. ISIS growing in the Middle East. The Ukraine problem. The problems in Europe. China’s expansionist noises.

    And our problems here at home. The libprogs and their idiocy. Our sucking economy and cracking societal foundations. Can’t trust politicians or judges.

    The timing of this blog was perfect. Thanks Sarah.

    1. You’re not alone. And I shouldn’t be thinking about it, considering it’s not quite/really in my religious background. (What I mean is my religion doesn’t encourage belief in a literal Armageddon.) And yet.

            1. Unfortunately, only one of them would lose. Then Iraq and Syria turn into Russian satellites.

              1. Which is admittedly better than the status quo.

                I do recall a story of the Cold War. Islamic terrorists went after the Bear instead of the Great Satan. The KGB hunted down and killed all the direct relatives of the terrorists with extreme prejudice.
                Suddenly, the USSR stopped being targeted.

                1. The KGB certainly had a delightful lack of sophistication. BTW anybody remember Vlad’s job during the Soviet Era?

                  1. And wasn’t he also head of the FSB for a while under Yeltsin?

                    Now I remember why the Academic Left likes him! I think he monitored students at the University of St. Petersburg* for BAD THINK.

                    Can you imagine how envious they are? They can monitor, but their power for action is limited. (It exists, but it is limited.)

                    * It was probably called something like Leningrad University back in the day.

              2. Kind of like Afghanistan?

                I suspect that the last thing Putin wants to do is to put a serious investment in the Arab nations. Help them out and get the benefits of that, sure. But I doubt he’s going to attempt to replace Iran as the sponsor of Syria (and quite possibly the soon to be sponsor of Iraq).

                1. I’m sure he would like to, but he can barely put fuel in the tanks heading for the Ukraine.

          1. I want to sell popcorn, and as Russian Politics go, I could see someone using this as a prime opportunity to get rid of Putin, make a power grab, squash (or try to) ISIS So they can claim they took care of the US’s problem. The issue being most of them aren’t that efficient once the get past the removal of the rival.

          2. Foolish of them and Putin’s likely reaction could lead to Russia being the “power that be” in the Middle East.

            It’s been said that Arabs follow the “Strong Leader” for two reasons. One, you don’t want the Strong Leader mad at you. Two, following the Strong Leader means that the Strong Leader will protect you from your enemies.

            The US has failed to be the “Strong Leader” in both ways.

            It’s safe to annoy/bad-mouth the US.

            The US won’t support their “friends” when their “friends” need help.

            Russia has been the “person you don’t want to annoy” and has been the “I’ll give you the help you’re asking for” guy. IE “don’t annoy Russia” and “Russia always supports their puppets”.

        1. And yet, there’s that feeling at the back of your head, when you read the news. Ebola. Oh, hello pestilence. And war, oh, yes, war. And you look at what we’re doing turning CA into a desert because of the delta smelt and burning food. Not famine here, but other parts of the world? And then you know, you just know death is at our side…

          1. Re: the four horsemen thing, it’s kind of interesting that pop culture has a different interpretation than the traditional ones.

            Mr. Archer on a white horse is actually supposed to be Jesus going to war with the baddies (hence His crown; and the Lord’s bow comes out of Habakkuk), not War personified. Although really, if you were going for personification, the white horse rider would be Victory or Conquest. The white horse is usually seen as the Gospel or the Church. Further on in the Book of Revelation, you see Jesus still riding around on the white horse, joined by a host of angel horsemen also dressed in white, and fighting all the various baddies.

            The other three horses are not the good guys. (As opposed to the three horses in Zechariah, which are.)

            Mr. Swordsman on a red horse is usually identified as Satan, with a sword to represent the unleashing of future wars, and riding on a horse representing bloody persecutors and murderers.

            Mr. Scales on a black horse is indeed famine and high food prices. He also represents spiritual famine, and then his scales represent showing off visible, hypocritical good while actually being bad or empty. This guy is generally supposed to be either the False Prophet, a random demon, or another image of Satan. (It’s also logical to take red swordsman as the Beast and pale horseman as the Dragon, or vice versa.)

            Mr. Pale/Green Horseman is Death riding on pestilence (re the angel of death in Jerusalem after David’s census stunt), as well as spiritual plagues and sicknesses. Sometimes he is identified with Satan. His follower is Sheol or Hell, who is sometimes identified with the pale horse. Sometimes art will show a devil shown following along behind the fourth rider, as Hell.

            So yeah, you gotta love that Mongol Scary Christ on Sleepy Hollow, and Good Omens, and all the rest. Personally, I blame Durer for putting Christ way far back in the picture, in a funny hat.

            1. I was always taught that the horseman with the bow is the Anti-Christ, the false messiah who will deceive the world into worshipping him, including the Jews for 3-1/2 years; but the Jews will realize that he is false when he desecrates the [re-built] temple.

              For me it was the earthquake in Virginia (and Oklahoma and couple of other atypical places) that got me thinking about “and earthquakes in different places” (see Matthew 24:7 or Mark 13:8 or Luke 21:11 for the straight dope). Maybe that’s because I felt it, and it was in Virginia–and I wasn’t.

              (And suddenly all those earthquake “snubbers” that the NRC insisted on for that power plant that took a decade or more to build that I heard so much about don’t sound so completely ridiculous.)

              1. “Do those who say, lo here or lo there are the signs of his coming, think to be too keen for him, and spy his approach? When he tells them to watch lest he find them neglecting their work, they stare this way and that, and watch lest he should succeed in coming like a thief! ” George MacDonald.

  12. In stories like the Lensmen Saga or H. R. Haggard’s Allen Quatermain, the protagonist are proponents of and evangelists of “CIVILIZATION!”.
    They believe in the civilization they were a part of and thought it was worthy of support.
    Our current crop of so called “elites?” by their own declarations regularly state they do not believe in our Civilization and will not support it.
    By their actions, they believe in Medieval Civilization. They believe in the Divine Rights of Kings. They believe in High and Low Justice, In essence, Laws are for the little people. They believe in Lords and Serfs. They believe the common breed must be controlled, for their own good of course. They believe in Noblesse Oblige, but without that pesky obligation part.

  13. Whatever you think of Robert Stacy McCain and his single-handed fisking of the modern feminist movement, he makes one important point—the huge if not overwhelming majority of our opinion makers and shapers, the people setting the topics and defining the language of our cultural dialogue, are profoundly, clinically mentally ill. (And not merely in the feminist field, although that’s where the he’s documenting it so thoroughly.)

    This didn’t start with the feminists, of course. The rot started to set in during the 19th century when the the arts began to embrace monsters and madmen for their “moral strength” and “unique visions.” (And never mind the stock figures like Marx and Nietzsche. Read the original script for Peter Pan sometime. J.M. Barrie should never have been allowed near children, as his own family’s history tragically attests.)

    What hope do we have for a prosperous, stable society where we let our children be educated and shaped by deluded lunatics and then pitch them back out into a real world in direct conflict with that lunacy, which they try to shape by electing similarly deluded lunatics to forcibly alter reality to their fantasy?

    If you want another example, look at the psychological trauma many black American soldiers experienced during the Somali peace-keeping mission. Even the most patriotic and conservative of them, at some level, had spent their lives being told that the problem of the black man in America was the problem of Whitey oppression. Then they got to Somalia, where there was not a white man to be seen, only blacks doing horrible things to each other, and the shock was devastating.

    1. “If you want another example, look at the psychological trauma many black American soldiers experienced during the Somali peace-keeping mission. Even the most patriotic and conservative of them, at some level, had spent their lives being told that the problem of the black man in America was the problem of Whitey oppression. Then they got to Somalia, where there was not a white man to be seen, only blacks doing horrible things to each other, and the shock was devastating.”

      You had me nodding and agreeing with you up until here. Anybody this stupid and that psychologically traumatized by learning that truth; I don’t really want in uniform.

      1. Not their fault. Our schools indocrinate them with this stuff from birth. Having your world collapse around you is ALWAYS a shock.
        I myself have met brilliant and economically conservative American blacks who are young enough (just out of high school) that when I tell them most slave traders in Africa were/are Muslim are so shocked htey can’t speak. Another good one is telling them Roman slaves were NOT black.
        It’s not our fault. We let the schools teach them fantasies. And our entertainment system reinforces it.

          1. Frederick Douglass described how as it was the child of the mother that was born a slave, so starting slaveowners would buy a slave woman, father children with her then use those children for sale or work.

            It was pretty sick.

            To really upset the grievance mongers point out that you aren’t the one who is the descendent of the oppressor — assuming you aren’t since the vast majority of American whites are not.

  14. I’ve just reached the second link, but I thought I’d mention I just processed, for the bookstore, a book called “Pagan Homeschooling.” NO ONE, apparently, trusts the educational establishment.

  15. if someone is armed and says they want to kill you and shows that they’re willing to kill you by beheading those of you they can get hold of, you should believe them.

    But, they’re all the way over there, too far away to do us any harm.

    It’s not like they can get on an airplane (and what did happen to those planes in Libya?) fly to someplace like Mexico, and then cross our virtually completely open southern border, right?


    1. Screw the Mexican border, hundreds of the faithful have American or western european passports. They can fly into any US city with an international airport. A quick trip to any hardware store and it’s game on.

        1. You know, I might just spend a few hours next thursday hanging out at the Cherry Creek Mall.

          Yeah, it’s not a prime target, but there’s a pretzel stand and they have free wifi…

          1. Be very careful about loitering about, and for heaven’s sake don’t let your carry piece print.
            Several of my acquaintances in the local LEO shops, while denying any special alerts for next week, are all of a mind that a large number of small attacks on soft targets are the most likely next attempt.
            Wouldn’t want a Hun to suffer friendly fire, so be most especially careful.

  16. … but also the reason it was such an abattoir was THEIR elites belief in how a war should be fought, despite new technology that made those methods just a way to kill people faster and in greater numbers while solving nothing.

    Not exactly. That’s the World War I narrative again. Much of what really happened was repeated attempts to come up with new tactics and technologies that would break the front lines. Tanks, stosstruppen, and massed artillery barrages are all examples of new developments in the art of war that occurred during World War I. The slaughters occurred because the only way to test those new ideas was to try them out on the battlefield… and it usually took a few (bloody) tries to figure out how best to implement them. And of course the enemy would meanwhile be trying to figure out effective counter-tactics and technologies to defend against those new offensive developments.

    There’s a brief article discussing some of this here –


    The article’s on the website for a miniatures game, and was posted in conjunction with the release of a World War I expansion for the game (timed to coincide with the 100th Anniversary of the start of the war).

    1. I think it also indicates a very greatest-generation-propaganda view of World War 2. Because we won, and at the time we covered up our mistakes rather thoroughly, and because the war was so righteous we didn’t question that rosy view after the war was over. It didn’t help that the Nazis were effectively tailor-made as the worst monster enemies in history.

      W’s decision to go into Iraq after being attacked by terrorists from Afghanistan and failure to get clear UN support for war against Iraq seems unprecedented if you pay no attention to FDR’s decision of a Germany-first strategy before Pearl Harbor and his invasion of sovereign French North Africa without a declaration of war. It’s one thing to complain that your utility vehicles don’t have enough armor for combat, but that can’t compare to a persistence in using a clearly outmatched tank for years. Why should we care about a few rounds hitting a mosque the enemy is using for shelter when we leveled the ancient monastery at Cassino because we (mistakenly) thought the Germans were using it as an OP? Aside from perhaps Omaha Beach, most people can’t name the battles of WW2 that were horrendous bloodbaths and, when victories, only seemingly through miracles. (And yet, as far as bloodbaths go, none come close to the war in Russia).

      1. It’s one thing to complain that your utility vehicles don’t have enough armor for combat, but that can’t compare to a persistence in using a clearly outmatched tank for years

        I assume you’re referring to the M4 Sherman tank here. It wasn’t really “outmatched” until D-Day. During the fighting in Africa, and the early portion of the fighting in Italy, Panthers were present in small enough numbers to lead the Allies to believe that it was only being produced in small numbers (like the Tiger). It wasn’t until D-Day in 1944 that the Allies realized that wasn’t the case. The Sherman was a good match for the German’s Pzkfw IV. And it completely outclassed the Pzkfw III, which was still in heavy use during the fighting in Africa. That doesn’t excuse the delay in getting the Pershing to Europe once the error was realized. But up until that moment…

        Of course, the Allies also should have stopped shipping 75mm Shermans (as opposed to those with the longer 76mm guns) to Europe once the 76mm version became widely available. That only halted when Eisenhower personally intervened in February 1945.

        It’s worth noting, though, that *none* of the Allies had an equivalent to the Panther. The British Cromwell and the Soviet T-34/85 were both roughly equivalent to the US M4 Sherman. The British Challenger was essentially still just a Cromwell with a bigger gun. And both it and the Sherman Firefly (another upgunned Sherman) were never available in sufficient numbers to fully outfit the Commonwealth’s armored platoons. The Soviets had the JS-2 heavy tank. But it was slower, and had a rate of fire that was slow enough to make it ineffective in a tank duel.

        One last item to chew on…

        When the upgunned Shermans started to become more widely available, the 4th Armored Division steadfastly refused to take any of them. Instead, they sent them all to the independent tank battalions (which worked directly in support of the infantry divisions). The 4th preferred the older model with the 75mm gun because it was much more effective against infantry (the shorter barrel on the 75mm gun meant that less shell space was used for propellant, and more explosives could be packed in). It wasn’t until the higher-ups personally ordered Col. Creighton Abrams (yes, the same guy that the M1 is named after) to start using the new 76mm version that the 4th grudgingly accepted the upgunned tanks.

        1. My brief mention of the M4 Sherman was not intended to be a complete historical argument. In addition to the arguments you made, one could bring up the original fire-prone gasoline engine and spalling-prone interior, the out-moded Tank Destroyer doctrine, the fact that the tank transport ships were laid out specifically for the Sherman-size tanks, the very inaccurate views of the armor of the Tiger that came from tests on those captured in Africa… A full discussion would take too much time, but the underlying point still stands.

          I also play Flames of War.

          1. Well, probably one of the people who was most qualified to compare the Sherman and actually did so was Soviet tank ace Dimitriy Loza. He served both in T-34s and M4A2 Shermans (i.e. the diesel models that the Soviets received). And he preferred the latter.

            Make of that what you will.

            1. There are some very good reasons not to upgrade tanks in the middle of a war, in that your guys who are already trained on X don’t need to be learning Y while fighting. If you’re about to rotate the X tankers out for rest and training anyway, then sure, they have the time while they’re off the front. Otherwise, it’s a steep learning curve, and not much room for learning to deal with malfunctions and quirks on the new tank.

              1. Yes…

                and no…

                20 Pershing tanks saw combat as part of the final evaluation and testing process. But a significantly larger number of them arrived in Europe. Their crews were still undergoing training and acclimation with the new vehicles when the war ended.

                So yeah, you don’t want to switch out for a completely new weapon in the middle of a short war. But if it’s a long war, then the trick is to find ways to get the right people off the line long enough to get them properly trained.

        2. My dad began the war as a Sherman driver. He lost three, and the crews (only he escaped) in ONE DAY. He asked for an easier job. They made him an artillery spotter. He was one of the unlucky ones that were sent to Bastogne from the 9th Artillery Regiment to provide artillery support for the 101st. He said they used their 155s as antitank weapons — zero elevation, 50 yards range. The shells usually didn’t even arm before they hit. If you hit them low, they turned turtle. If you hit the turret, it usually sheared off — along with the upper parts of everyone inside.

      2. Whether the Shermans were a match for the Tigers is a meaningless question. The US built many, many medium tanks, the Germans built too few monster tanks that had tons of problems. And the US Army had strategies and tank killers to defeat the Tigers. (Yes, I am looking forward to seeing “Fury.”) In the East, on the other hand, brave men fought Zeros for two years with hopelessly outclassed fighter planes.

        1. It might be worth mentioning here, the German tanks had a V-12 gasoline engine. There’s a widespread myth they had diesels.

        2. It’s not a meaningless question if it’s you in the tank that comes across a hidden Tiger or Panther, or it’s a husband/child/relative. But, again, this actually reinforces what I was trying to say. I apologize to the readers for causing a history-technology geek-off in my haste to get a point across.

          It’s really easy to insist that you want an unavailable super-tank when you’re the one in the tank (or in the Humvee near the roadside bomb or about to go over the top of the trenches). When you’re the planner, the fact that the M4 is easy to produce, ship, use, maintain and repair and is available NOW (compared to a hypothetical, better armed and armored replacement that may be months or years away) may mean that for the war effort, the M4 is a better choice. To mix metaphors, you go to war with the army you have against an opponent that his doing his damnedest to make as many unknowns (especially unknown unknowns) for you as possible.

          World War I looks like a slaughterhouse because people played up the worst of it and didn’t just put the good parts in the history books. All wars are nasty and brutish, mistakes are made and get people killed. The fact that we get a romanticized picture of one war where everyone of all political persuasions agrees the bad guys were completely evil makes it really hard to look at warfare as practiced today in comparison.

          1. sort of. Also because it was a slaughterhouse. As in fields in France covered in corpses so deep that everyone in the nearby villages smoked to endure the smell. The population was larger, the army war larger, the theater of war was the heart of Europe. Etc.

            1. And yet…

              The Spanish Influenza (which, I learned the other day, was so named because Spain was the *only* government in Europe that wasn’t censoring how catastrophic it was) killed more people.

              Kinda scary…

            2. You are right; that wasn’t well phrased of me. I’m not intending to downplay the slaughter of WW1, merely saying that WW2 had it’s own slaughter that tends to get overlooked. Likewise, despite focusing on Europe and the Germans I don’t intend to downplay what happened in China and the Philippines (or the horrors perpetrated by our Soviet allies, for that matter). Thanks for the correction.

              1. Part of that was, as you say, the victory dance of those who won WWII, but the other part of it was what my friend Bill Reader said when we were pondering the results (economic) of another possible hit. “The first time was a dreadful shock. The second…”

            3. 1 July 1916;
              Between the hours of 0728 and 0830 the British Army on the banks of a muddy stream called Somme suffered 60,000 casualties (20,000 fatalities). This was in a valiant attempt to move Hague’s drinks cabinet six inches closer to Berlin.

              1. And the tactics they used at Somme, of massed slow-walk assaults across no-mans land, were effectively forced on the British generals by the British government’s pre-war policy of maintaining only a very small British Army. Yes, that let the Army train the pre war troops to a uniformly extremely high level, but it also meant that once British Regulars were commited to a real fight (and no-one would say that contesting the German advance across northern France was anything other than a real fight), casualties would represent a greater proportionate loss of fighting power than in a larger Army.

                So when the British needed to build up that much larger Army and ship them over to France to desperately hold their part of the line, they skimped on training – After all, all they will be doing is standing in the trenches, Wot? And they are needed now! They can be trained further in France!

                As a result when it came time to attempt offensive action, the British generals did not believe they could execute compicated the rush-and-cover-by-sections assaults that they would have used had they their pre-war Army still available. Walking-assault-in-line-abreast was all they thought they could succesfully accomplish with their fractionally trained green troops.

                In fact, they were wrong, in that those tactics were not successful, but they were all the generals had to work with.

                The mythology about British generals incompetently throwing away the lives of Tommys while sipping tea far behind the lines because they were trapped in the past is another of those false legacies of post-war revisionism. More accurate to blame the false economy of small-peacetime-Army decisions of the pre-war British governments.

          2. You also have trade offs. Heavier armor may protect you, but it also slows you down and restricts movement over rough terrain. If the enemy knows that you have to go down a certain road, then they can take the time to build a bigger IED to blow you up.

            The Humvee wasn’t meant to be a tank, it was meant to be a light vehicle that could transport personnel and equipment an perform missions where speed was more important than armor.

            1. In fact, the Humvee was meant to be … a jeep! In fact it was better at being a jeep than the WWII or Korean War or Vietnam iterations of the jeep were. The only thing it couldn’t do as well as a jeep was fit in certain helicopters, which is why the last of the old style jeeps remained in service in certain special operations communities so they could move them internally in their helos, where the Humvee would have needed to be transported as a sling load.

              1. Meanwhile, we *do* have two armored transports – namely, the M2 and M3 Bradley, and the M1126 Stryker.

                1. We also still have a few hundred M-113s in the Guard and Reserve. Not everyone has been upgraded, especially with the attrition caused by deployment to desert terrain none of those vehicles were designed for.

              2. And fit between trees. The Humvee does admirably in the open desert, and was specifically designed to avoid the rollovers that jeeps were so well known for. (We’ll ignore the idiocy of the Feds deciding that mil-surplus Humvees will be destroyed rather than sold off to civilians because of the… wait for it… rollover hazard. Of course you can buy the same basic vehicle on the civilian market and it is well known and has been tested and proven to be one of the most stable 4X4s out there) Unfortunately the fact that the Humvee is 23″ wider than the Willy’s means that if you are going anywhere tight the Humvee sucks. In fact there are a lot of perfectly good older logging roads that I drive my Toyota down without thinking twice (66.5″ or 4.5″ wider than a Willy’s) while my F250 simply won’t fit, and it is half a foot narrower than a Humvee.

              3. Boeing has recently developed a Vehicle called the Badger (or even “Phantom Badger”) that is just about the size of a Willy’s Jeep that will fit inside a helicopter or an Osprey.

        3. Martin Caidin once wrote, “and yet you look at the kill ratio between the Zero and the F4F Wildcat and you come away shaking your head in disbelief.”

          Read his excellent books “The Ragged, Rugged Warriors,” “Whip” and “The Last Dogfight.”

  17. The last sentence really gets it. I often get irked when I hear the response “We can’t go back to the 1950s!” whenever it is suggested that it might perhaps be inappropriate to force private citizens to subsidize women’s vaginas. Sure, we can’t go back to the 1950s–we’re going much, MUCH farther back.

    1. Eh, some of them want to be Victorian. Marxist philosophy, trains for transport, language sanitized. . . .

  18. “I’ve in the past posited that our culture went into a tail spin in the aftermath of WWI. I read somewhere, this week, and can’t find it now that this too might not be exactly true. “

    It isn’t. There aren’t many topics which I can discuss at length, but this one I know better than I do guns, if that means anything.

    The cultural malaise towards “the uncontrollable society” and its concomitant melancholy began long before 1914. What happened was that mechanization began to speed up people’s concept of time — both travel and societal change seemed to accelerate past the limit of people to absorb them — and the period ~1900-1914 was to become known as the “vertigo years” to describe this feeling.. (It’s also the title of an excellent book by Philipp Blom — read it if the period interests you at all.)

    What happened after WWI was that this melancholy deepened — WWI was an accelerant, not a cause, which is where most people get it wrong.

    [10,000 words deleted for sake of brevity]

    Now apply that feeling of helplessness towards change with the modern-day rate of change (exponential by comparison), and you’ll see where and why people are responding in the same way as the “Lost Generation” of the 1920s.

  19. I’m trying to arrange for my wife not to be at work next Thursday. My stepson is too young to remember why feelings are so raw over 9/11/01. It’s just images on a tv screen or computer monitor to him. So I told him to read this:


    It’s what Pournelle referred to as The Black September War. Really brings it all back…

  20. Our self-proclaimed “elites” ‘ main problem is they believe what they’ve been told, and they’ve been told lies…which they either believe, or refuse to refute because their friends in the “elite” would cast them out. Or so they think.

  21. Someone on Twitter nicely summed up the Obama Administration’s incoherence on ISIS:

    “We’re going to destroy ISIS. Or manage them. Or shrink their sphere of influence. Or follow them to the gates of hell.”

  22. I forgot to mention: Sarah Palin was a whole bunch smarter than those self-described elites then, and so she remains. (Better looking, too; and they just HATE that.)

        1. Pfui — they were born smarter, but they’ve been losing ground ever since, from filling their heads with illogic and disinformation.

          1. “The trouble with trying to make yourself stupider than you are is that you very often succeed.” ~CS Lewis (generic you, for the record.)

  23. I am cursed with knowing enough history to understand that what comes will be absolutely frightful.

    In the end . . . no one will give a damn about whether cisgendered people are over-represented in science fiction. No one will care about our children’s self-esteem. No one will care about Dancing With the Stars or The Voice.

    We will put aside childish things. We will put aside those childish things by sacrificing our children on the altar of Ares.

    All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.

        1. I went to school to be a professional historian. My prediction is “Welcome to the Chinese century.”

          1. No.
            You don’t know the Chinese enough if you think that. I have no idea WHY Americans think this. Americans and foreign leftists.
            First, China is a paper tiger, literally. there’s no there there. Second, while they could lash outward and build an empire, they’re intrinsically racist. They won’t.

            1. They still think they’re the center of the universe. Not at a conscious level but at an instinctive one. They have been the strongest culture around, able to make their enemies into THEM if they stayed too long they can’t wrap their minds around a culture that at once changes and remains itself. They can’t assimilate us which drives them towards isolationism. (Which is what they’ve historically tended to when they didn’t ‘get’ the world around them. Though they’ve never been as isolationist as Japan.)

              Most people don’t really ‘get’ the far eastern mindset. It’s too foreign to a western brain. I only understand because my folks grew up in Korea and I absorbed a lot of the far east right along with my American.

            2. they are very much of the “We will ignore the rest of the world and we will still be here long after it is gone” school. Changes of regime from Dynasty to Commie has not changed them one iota

            3. The reason it hangs on, and I admit it seems probable to me is:
              1) They had a serious empire in the past.
              2) Their economy is in the upswing rather than down
              3) The “arc of empire” theory
              4) Who else?

              The arc of empire suggests that history shows dominating empires rising as the previous falls in an east to west direction. Dimer, Egypt,Greece, Rome, Spain, Britain and the US in that order. Thus it can be predicted that the next will be either China, Japan or Russia.

              1. I don’t think it’s on the upswing. You’re trusting figures cooked by a totalitarian regime. Ten years ago, Monkey told me that China was a beautiful lacquer vase, cracked underneath. I see no reason to doubt this and a lot of reason to believe it.
                Their empire never included the world.
                History is not predeterminated, arc of empire or not. This is bullshit that historians make up to think they can “predict.” It ain’t so.
                We were never an empire. Our arc would be more similar to phoenicia, I think, if they hadn’t got in a pissing contest with Rome, or to the Celtic commonwealth maybe.

                1. Walter Russell Mead’s Via Media blog [ http://www.the-american-interest.com/old-style-2/ ] has been monitoring China’s rise for several years now and offers ample reason for doubting China will rise absent a USA collapse. They have severe problems of corruption, rampant environmental degradation and are facing a grievous demographic inversion. They are able to drive up the price we bear for “empire” but unlikely to find it affordable for themselves.

                  Recent items on what Mead terms the South Pacific’s “Game of Thrones” have been:
                  Game of Thrones: nuclear edition
                  Australia Looks to Sell Uranium to India

                  Abe on the High Wire
                  Japanese Cabinet Reshuffle Puts Pro-China Officials in Top Positions

                  Chinese Democracy
                  China Puts Its Foot Down on Hong Kong

                  China’s Minorities
                  China Pays Muslim Uighurs to Intermarry

                2. A wee quibble. Samarkand to Seoul and Saigon to Vladivostok is quite an empire. United under Genghis Ka Khan khan of khans and his son and grandsons. Kublai Khan being the last of note.

            4. The Chinese are building some sort of imperial structure in Africa, centered around rare earth and precious metals mines. I don’t know there’s an analysis around I’d rely on, but the situation demands attention.

              1. Yes. Do you want my brother’s “analysis”? “They’re doing so well in Africa because they aren’t racist like Americans.”
                Yes that is a head-shaped dent on my desk. WHY do you ask?

                1. Actually, they’re worse! Anyone can come to the United States and assimilate, and be welcome. No foreigner is EVER assimilated in China. There are Chinese and there are “other”. An Other can never become a Chinese.

                  1. Citizen! Report to the nearest re-education camp! The Chinese are not racist as only Whites can be racist! [Sarcasm]

            5. It could be a “Chinese century” in the “may you live in interesting times” sense.

              I do expect China to try something in the next few decades, though I don’t know if they’ll succeed or not. Even if they stay home, things are still going to get… interesting.

            6. In one way, he’s correct, Sarah — if what he means is the next century will be one “lived in interesting times”. The Chinese are in a difficult situation at the moment, and they’re making it worse. See my comment upstream from here.

          2. About 20-30 years ago, people were saying “welcome to the Japanese century”. It didn’t happen.

              1. yeah, they hit a recession and tried to stimulus spend their way out of it … shock of shocks, it hasn’t worked. This is one of those things known as Bad Luck iirc

                1. It was also a problem with the Japanese system. They are strongly inclined to reverence for elites and group-thinking; reverence for elites (Keynesian economists) told them to regard stimulus-spending as the way out of a recession, and group-thinking meant that nobody listened to any dissidence in this regard.

                  If we thought like the Japanese, we’d still be according deep reverence to Obama because of his office.

      1. It’s particularly harsh for me–I am a veteran of the late Cold War, and my daughter wishes to become a fighter pilot and (eventually) an astronaut.

        I understand the reckoning that is coming; my daughter will be covering the check our so-called betters wrote.

  24. Excellent post. Humans WILL tribe up, it’s in our nature.

    First we tribe family (nepotism will ever be with us) then clan. Racial tribing can be channeled into national tribing, which seems healthier. Then there’s political tribing. Class tribing. Professional tribing.

    Pouring scorn on your national tribe is as sensible as unilateral disarmament.

    But while the elites commit that folly, they’re ramping up partisan tribing to the point of subhumanizing adherents of the party that generally opposes them.

    And they’re doing it all to protect and extend the perks of their class tribe and their professional (government) one.

  25. Sarah,

    “The strange thing is that our president is “passionate” in his certainty that the enemy doesn’t want to kill us. This is not a problem of people who live in the real world, where if someone is armed and says they want to kill you and shows that they’re willing to kill you by beheading those of you they can get hold of, you should believe them.”

    The Goal is to convert us, not kill us. They’re like an abusive husband saying, “Why do you make me hurt you. If you would just do as I want, this wouldn’t happen.”

    As with any abusive relation ship the answer is to realize the problem is with them; not you. 

    (Thought I had yesterday didn’t get a chance to post.)

    1. “The Goal is to convert us, not kill us”
      Well, not all of us and not too quickly: Otherwise there would be less property to loot, children to enslave, and women to rape. (I’m not joking: After the Muslim conquests of the Middle East and North Africa, in which onerous taxes were imposed on “infidels”, many people sought to convert to Islam to escape the crushing burden. Muslim authorities eventually took steps to prevent this as it deprived the state of money and Muslims of wealth without work.)

      1. pst314,

        Good point to be more accurate instead of ‘convert’ I should have used ‘subjugate’ under Islam.

      2. And yet the SJWs like to cite the years under Islamic rule as their exemplar of ‘See? Jews, Christians and Muslims live together peacefully, especially if it’s the Muslims ruling over them! So what if the other groups were second class and had to pay the jizya (if the jizya were acknowledged as real at all), they were wild savages and brought to heel!’

        That’s one of the ridiculous reasons why the idiotic ‘multiculturalists’ feel that it’d be ‘better’ under Islamic rule.

        The biggest lie that has been fed about Islam is that it’s a religion of peace. Islam itself means “I submit.”

        To which I reply, “lan astaslem!” I will not submit!

    2. As with any abusive relation ship the answer is to realize the problem is with them; not you.

      Very true. And to do this we must abandon the fantasy that they are incapable of autonomous behavior. They choose whether or not to attack us, so we should hold them responsible for their attacks on us instead of making excuses.

  26. SH – RE: the Chinese… not racist;
    Yeah, tell your brother they sure aren’t; they are just as quick to kill Africans who bother them as they are to kill their own people(Actually they’re a little quicker, but let’s not quibble.).
    Don’t feel bad, I’ve got brother AND his wife who are just as ignorant; and they have three Phd’s and four Masters degrees between them. The only good thing is that their only child decided to become an FBI agent, HAHAHAHAHA

  27. Just wandering by the WWI tangent, after reading The Guns of August, I came away with the conclusion that WWI was largely caused by having highly centralized power concentrated in the hands of unaccountable monarchs,

    The king of Germany, essentially concluded that he was being surrounded by hostile powers, and was playing status games with the king of Russia, and it got way out of hand.

    1. There has been some stuff out recently that the war was basically entirely Germany’s fault (unlike WWII, where Stalin shared equal blame).

      The claim is that Germany forced Austria Hungry to take a strong stand against Serbia knowing that Russia would have to act hence giving it a chance to crush them, take huge chunks of it territory and become the dominant power in Europe. It thought it could beat the French at the same time as it did in the Franco-Prurssian war and keep Britain out. And if not, hold them off until it could finish with the Russians.

      And it almost worked.

  28. …our elites think this must be broken up in various ways, so as not to let the people on the street think they’re better.

    Some thoughts from Sir William Gilbert:

    As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
    I’ve got a little list — I’ve got a little list
    Of society offenders who might well be underground,
    And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
    Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
    All centuries but this, and every country but his own…

    1. Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
      All centuries but this, and every country but his own…

      That idiot has become ubiquitous, and all the way back in the 1990’s I knew someone who wanted to change those lines to avoid criticizing such persons since she accepted the basic assumption that the behavior was normal rather than obnoxious.

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