Hate

Posted on by Sarah A. Hoyt

The left keeps throwing around the word “Hate” and defining ITSELF as being against haters.

As in so many things, from outside it looks like they’re projecting like an IMAX.

To make it clear: I’ve been accused at various times of hating this or that group. This is actually and for real insane. “Hate” has a precise definition of wishing the worst on others, wishing to harm, kill them, obliterate their existence. I’m saved from it, even when really angry, by the fact I’m extremely lazy. Most of what I want is for the people I’m supposed to “hate” to leave me the heck alone and go play with themselves. (In any sense you wish to take it.)

But I do hate some THINGS. Hell, (the Capulets!) and Marxism, for instance. Note I hate the ideology — justifiably, as 100 million graves cry to the heavens against it — not the people holding it. I don’t pray for them to be obliterated, but for them to abjure their inhuman, evil ideology and to join the human race in spirit as well as in biology, once more.

At my worst, I wish people would sit ALL THE WAY DOWN and shut the heck up till they grow up.

But I’m not a good person — I’ve mentioned that, right? — and my dark humor is a load bearing structure, so I do occasionally joke about Pinochet and helicopters. And pray it never comes to pass we’re pushed against the wall (I speak advisedly) that this becomes a thing.

BUT to my knowledge, Charlie Kirk never joked about Pinochet or giving people halfway helicopter rides. I’ll be honest, I thought him a little optimistic and soppy, kind of like my kids are sometimes, and thought he’d eventually see some things and get over “reaching across the isle.” And at the same time hoped he wouldn’t.

Well, they did prove him wrong on some thing. A lot of them proved and keep proving they are not rational actors and can’t be reasoned with. And I hope he was right and a lot can.

But I’m sick and tired, and a bit beyond, of hearing him called “Hater.” I don’t care how much propaganda you were fed, and if you bring up the New York Times, I’m going to shove Walter Duranty whom they never disavowed down your idiot throat until you vomit up all the Marxism, exorcist-like.

Charlie did believe Marxism was wrong; he believed coercion and tyranny was wrong. Yes, he was Christian, which meant he didn’t believe people should engage in homosexual acts, or “transition” into the appearance of the other sex (or none.) This did not mean he hated the people doing it. In fact, he argued that gay people should be welcomed into the movement.

(Me? I don’t actually care what people do unless they do it on the street and scare the horses (Or to the horses, who can’t consent.) But I hate the lies the “trans” movement rests on. I know I have trans fans, and those seem to have some brain cells, but most of the people in the “movement” seem to believe that they will become REALLY and not just cosmetically the other sex, able to reproduce as the other sex, because “science.” That’s a lie. It’s a horrible lie, and people who tell it need to stop already. The only change available is cosmetic. IF adults, in full understanding of this are willing to trade the functional for the cosmetic, I wish them well. No one beneath the age of reason should do this. Ever. And no one should do it based on lies.)

And while Charlie might have hated the fact we put someone in the Supreme Court of the US who seems to have so little brain that when she turns her head a certain way music plays as the wind whistles in one ear and out the other, and that we did so because the walking corpse of a corrupt Senator installed by fraud as “president” had promised to nominate a justice based on color and sex, he never said anything against black people in general. Mostly because opposing someone being nominated on race and sex is ANTI-racist and ANTI-sexist. And not hate of any kind.

In fact, nominating someone because she’s a black female is as bad as nominating someone because he’s a blond, blue eyed male. I want more qualified, thoughtful justices, not more “looks good on a poster.” And telling black people the only way they can be nominated is for their skin is quite possibly the most racist thing I ever heard. And wrong. I’d trade ten Roberts’ for one Thomas and call it a good trade.

But the left screams “Hate” and calls us “haters” while saying we must be killed, obliterated, destroyed. While demanding that our blood be spilled in the streets.

The baying demon of hatred possessing them seems to stop them understanding what people actually say and hearing what they, themselves are saying.

I’m not going to call for “lowering the temperature” because it would do no good.

I’m going to call for challenging them to prove that we “hate” them in any way shape or form. And to point out that hating their mistaken beliefs is NOT hating them.

Oh, they think their beliefs aren’t mistaken? Fine, then defend them, rationally, as beliefs, not as a part of their anatomy much less the core of it. Go on, engage in dialogue. DISCUSS things. And put away the knives and guns. Because you don’t want to shove us into a corner. You just don’t.

Guys, we have a really tough road, really odd-shaped boots to fill.

When Breitbart died, I — and a hundred others — took up his flag before it touched the ground. Talking, yelling, mocking?

Those are my core competencies. And I’m not alone in that, on the Odd Right.

But taking up Charlie’s role? That’s a lot harder. It forces us to believe what they’re fighting so hard to disprove: That they are merely misinformed. That they can be reasoned with. That they will eventually understand disagreement isn’t hatred.

On the other hand, if there weren’t a grain of truth in it, if he weren’t succeeding, they wouldn’t have whipped up their lunatics against him and got him killed.

So we should try. I don’t know how. You probably don’t either, if you’re one of my regulars.

But we should give it a good ol’ college try.

For Charlie!

190 thoughts on “Hate”

  1. Much harder to be like Charlie. Trump flat out said he hated his opponent, while praising Charlie and saying he and Erika could have a discussion where she could try to persuade him.

    Progressives don’t understand that this blunt honesty is one of his strengths. (Because they believe him to be a compulsive liar).

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  2. From time to time, I’ve felt hatred towards somebody else but I don’t “like me” when I do it.

    I just don’t understand why people “enjoy hating other people”. ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

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    2. It’s an addiction, like rage. People who hate get to wallow in being their worst selves, often with support from their social group that they’re being virtuous by hating the “right people”. It’s one of the reasons anyone looking out for kids needs to keep an eye out for one being isolated, because kids (and too many adults) love having an excuse to behave badly, and being Odd is often enough of an excuse.

      It’s also, sadly enough, often advantageous to the haters. Social positioning is survival for so many people. Besides that, there have been a few studies done that people who were bullies in school often have better immune systems and health than the people they bullied, even decades later. In the short term and for individuals, hate often pays.

      For long-term survival of a society, of course, it’s devastating. But you have to slap a lot of people with facts to get any of them to see that.

      As an Odd, vastly outnumbered by the rest of “normal people”, it is in my long-term best interest to have hate toned down as much as possible.

      Also it’s just such an exhausting waste of time. I apparently don’t get the “high” of mob feelings, so hate doesn’t benefit me!

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      1. The immune system thing makes sense, since a daily overdose of cortisol is going to screw you up.

        Some years ago, I found out that bullying in primate societies is done in order to stress out the low-status females to the point where they stop ovulating. So it’s an evolutionary strategy to prioritize the offspring of the high-status females.

        You tell a bully that they’re an evolutionary hold-over, and I suspect things wouldn’t go well.

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    3. Because the choice is not between hate and a fulfilling love, like the love of a beautiful family going Christmas shopping and giving the kids a dollar to give to the Salvation Army Santa.

      The choice is far more often between hate and fear. Not the good clarifying fear that makes you alert, but a resigned de facto surrender.

      To so-called people who want to rape and murder children.

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    4. Completely understand that.

      Thing is, if wishes were horses, there wouldn’t be enough grass in the world to feed them all.

      I’m all for trying to convince someone who hates you to change their mind; but when they actively try to do you or yours in, then I have no problem with exterminating them. That’s not a wish, there’s little to no emotional involvement, except, perhaps, regret. It’s not hatred that motivates me, its pragmatism.

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    5. I can’t honestly say I’ve hated anyone since I became an adult, but I do believe that some people should be sent to argue directly with Someone Else, and as soon as possible.

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  3. The NPC script of the day regarding Charlie Kirk is about his funeral: “souNdS liKe a nAzi raLLy”. They’re all doing it. In lockstep unison, kind of like the participants at a . . .

    Oh.

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      2. I’m flashing on Mel Brooks’s song in The Producers, “Springtime for Hitler”. Saw a local stage version, and they made the proto-Nazis gloriously stupid.

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    2. I didn’t want to say anything at the time because I didn’t want to put the idea out there but I predicted that the Lefties would attempt to draw a parallel between Charlie Kirk and Horst Wessel. And sure enough, I’ve seen several of those already.

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      2. Maybe the next scheme of their puppetmasters. For all their human worth and individuality, though, the members of Antifa (so far as I can tell) are to the last thug interchangeable and indistinguishable goons or goon-squads to be ignited and flung as firecrackers into their handlers’ anthills of choice. Those expended are disposable and the survivors can be reused, is my impression of it.

        Maybe I give them too much credit. Or too much benefit of a doubt.

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        1. In the above description I am speaking about the way Antifa are used by the Left, particularly their unseen handlers or as they’re likely to prefer, “organizers.” Rent-a-Riot shock troops, $50/day if you make it out alive.

          A damnable abuse on top of the other abominations their ideology compulsively defends.

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        2. J.J. you appear absolutely correct. Antifa are the Democrats current rent-a-thugs. At other times past it has been the Black Panthers, or the SDS, or if you go back far enough the KKK. And yes should things go wrong (or perhaps even right from the Democrat perspective) they will, like all their predecessors, face a night of long knives or some similar purge to make the use of Antifa deniable. This playbook has rolled out time after time in history, and the Antifa/Trantifa types are too historically ignorant to know the pattern.

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          1. Recently I finally read the communist manifesto while talking with a rather young communist in notes on Substack. Marx himself says that the antifa types should be used to gain power then disposed of, it’s an open secret, just read the manifesto. Im sure the antifa types have no self realization to understand that they are the undesirables used for violence then thrown away after gaining power.

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        3. It’s decentralized enough that there can be some variation.

          Witness the Virginia protest against a gun-control bill. Some Antifa types in full guise showed up, with signs saying that gun control has historically been used to oppress minorities. Full points for historical knowledge.

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    3. Always the ones who not only hear the dogwhistles but have an encyclopedic knowledge of all the slurs, aspersions, and coded insults. Weird how that goes.

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  5. I’ve mentioned here before that there was an upcoming alternate reality version of Batman that’s an Aztec when the Spaniards arrive. Apparently it’s out. And whenever anyone on X brings up the absurdity of having Batman (or rather a version of Batman) defend the Aztecs from the Spanish, the response is a wave of equivalency posts.

    It’s insane. If there is one single civilization in recorded history to despise, it’s the Aztec civilization. My understanding is that none of the other mesoamerican cultures were as bloodthirsty as the Aztecs. And yet people defend them because it was the Spanish that brought them down.

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    1. …but now we’re supposed to allow the descendants of those same Spansh free entry to our country no matter how many atrocities they perpetrate.

      Mexico is not really mexican, it’s French and Spanish.

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    2. To make it Really Bad, the Aztec version of the Joker is an Aztec Priest that sacrifices people to one of the Aztec Gods, but of course the Aztec Batman doesn’t sacrifice people and is Also An Aztec Priest. 😡

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      1. One would think that would put him next on the list for the altar.

        After all, not sacrificing enough people to keep the earth blood-sated enough to leave everyone else alone/ keep the sun rising in the sky/ensure plentiful rain for crops is dereliction of his priestly duty.

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        1. Chuckle Chuckle

          Not only didn’t the Aztec Batman NOT SACRIFICE humans to the gods, but Aztec Joker was the only Aztec Priest that sacrificed humans to the gods.

          The makers of this show completely ignored the known Aztec religious practices.

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          1. Facepalm

            Why put the story in that setting, and set the characters up as they did if they weren’t going to bother to do the culture justice in the first place?

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            1. Because the Mexican company working with DC Comics WANTED the Aztecs to be The Good Guys.

              Being accurate about the Aztec Religious Practices wouldn’t make the Aztecs the Good Guys.

              Note, IIRC It was the Mexicans’ idea and DC Comics “went along with them”.

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            2. Same reason that an awesome comics guy, who was a long time fan of the really big hero names, DEEP in the lore, but happened to be black– was shoved into writing “Black Panther”.

              (This is why you might see a blond Black Panther. He’s canon. From the ’90s. Do not f’ around with a hard core fan and give him power.)

              They’re racist as heck, so they need to have “diversity,” but it has to be diversity in a manner they will accept it.

              So everything gets warped so anything related to what they hate becomes “this is evil” that they’ll accept, and anything they are being “highly respectful of” gets different setups.

              You want really funny, when I was poking around? Turned out they made Aztec Batman a follower of the bat god.

              Which would make sense….

              except….

              He’s an Inca god.

              :giggles madly:

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              1. Meanwhile, the deity most important to the Aztecs was Hutzlipochli (sp?), who is represented by… a hummingbird.

                Scene: Masked and caped figure holds a terrified thug up while standing on a rooftop.

                “Who are you!”

                “I’m Hummingbirdman!”

                Tim Burton *might* be able to make it work…

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          2. alternate plotline: Aztec Joker tries to shut down the sacrifices in order to prevent the sun from rising and the crips from growing. Aztec Batman has to make sure the sacrifices run smoothly.

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    3. “My understanding is that none of the other mesoamerican cultures were as bloodthirsty as the Aztecs. And yet people defend them because it was the Spanish that brought them down.”

      A slight correction. The Spanish only gave hope to the other indigenous tribes that were looking for anything to unite them against the Aztecs who were extracting hundreds if not thousands of captives from the conquered tribes and ritually cutting the beating hearts out of their bodies. Cortez had only about 150 fellow Spaniards and a few horses, but that was exotic enough to encourage the subjugated people to rise up in an alliance and defeat the Aztecs. Of course most people don’t know that.

      BTW to show how deranged certain people are, my local college football team has The Aztecs as their name. Their mascot dresses in tribal costume and tosses a spear out on the field before each game. A couple of years ago some nudnik tried to start a movement to get them to scrap the mascot as offensive to Aztecs!

      May I make the modest suggestion that some school adopt Nazis as their name and mascot, so some idiot leftist will come out of the woodwork to argue that it is cultural appropriation and offensive to Hitler.

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      1. Cortes had 608 soldiers and sailors after he burned his ships, and 16 horses. The best estimates of the Aztec Empire’s population in 1521 is something on the order of five to six million people.

        There is no way 609 Spaniards and 16 horses could defeat six million Aztecs, but all the subject peoples of the Aztec Empire could. And did.

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          2. Yes, we’re discussing Cortes, not Hannibal. Though I believe the report was that he drowned a hundred oxen as sacrifices to Poseidon, and killed a boy as a sacrifice to Saturn.

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              1. Receiving a sacrifice is an important part of being a god. Indeed, the first time a being receives one is the point at which that being is a god.

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        2. I had a “conversation” with a Lefty on Baen’s Bar about the Spanish and the Aztecs.

          The Idiot “accepted” how evil the Aztecs were and how much they were hated by their neighbors.

          But in his silly mind, the Spanish were still the Bad Guys because they didn’t “belong” in Mexico. WTH!!!!!!

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          1. The modern scholarly notion of ‘indigenous’ amounts to being totally reverse, and also a race ideology, and a war ideology.

            They don’t see it that way, I think their blinders are badly miscalibrated.

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          1. Knowing that you and 200 of your family, friends and assorted acquaintances are about to have their beating hearts ripped out has a way of focusing ones mind and motivates people far better than a “Hang in there!!!” poster.

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      2. While it’s true that the Aztecs only fell because an alliance formed around the Spanish, it’s worth noting that somehow that tiny number of Spanish adventurers (plus a couple of additional groups that arrived before the campaign was over) ended up running the region instead of one of the local groups. Crazy, when you think about it. From what little I can tell, it appears that the Spanish impressed the Tlaxcalans enough that the latter voluntarily submitted themselves to the Spanish crown and Christianity.

        That wouldn’t just be in military power. Several hundred men, even with guns and a few dozen horses, will only get you so far. If my understanding is correct, then apparently the Tlaxcalans saw something in the Spanish that they admired, and wanted to be more like them.

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    4. And they conveniently ignore the fact that the Spanish had the support, and troops, of neighboring and subjugated tribes that were so over Aztec rule and actions.

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            1. I suspect there’s a bunch of people with samurai and Chinese dentist ancestors in Mexico who would say HECK NO.

              (The picture painted of the multiethnic Mexico City of the 1600s in 1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created by Charles Mann, is quite awesome.)

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              2. The Charles Mann series is very scholorly and interesting.

                IIRC, I have his “1491” and “1492”. Good, historical, and thought provoking reads. I’ll have look through my library and see what I have, then fill in the rest (to include “1493”)

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          2. flag has a cactus with a bird and a snake

            I was mostly mocking Charlie Hebdo for slandering Houston, but the hypothesis that ‘Mexican’ is fundamentally similar to Neo-Nazi makes a disturbing amount of sense.

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              1. Even to a person of no talent in Spanish it is clear that it means “The Race”. The word Master is implied or silent it is unclear which.

                Why is it that every fricking two bit nationalist invents some titular master race that 1) as specified never actually existed 2) bears NO resemblance to the actual residents of their country except perhaps for some few citizens (often oddly NOT their great leader who is just some boring schlub with a Napolean complex)?

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                1. ‘The Race’ — that’s what the aliens in Harry Turtledove’s Worldwar series called themselves. Humans called them the Lizards, because they looked like chameleons walking on their hind legs.

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                  1. Well, Poul Anderson’s dragon like alien named Adzel once “kidded” a Human Woman who never met his kind by calling himself a “human” and “from Earth”.

                    Basically, his people called themselves “Humans” and called their home-world “Earth”.

                    Poul was thinking that any intelligent species would call themselves by a name that could be translated as “human” (or the People) and of course, the name of their home-world could be translated as “Earth” (or the World).

                    I saw Turtledove’s Lizards as calling themselves “The Race” as meaning “The People”. Which is IMO a different mindset that is held by “La Raza”.

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                    1. I liked Diane Duane’s take on the Romulans’ firm encountering humans: “Them, from there.”

                      For the Klingons: “More of Them, from somewhere else.”

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        2. Someone in the responses said he was from Mexico, and mentioned something along these lines. He said that in reality, everyone (at least that he’s aware of) hates the Aztecs.

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          1. Ah.

            So compare to the contrast between a lot of the official theory of what Americans do and say, versus what a lot of people may observe as the reality of what Americans do and say.

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            1. Probably.

              Coupled with, as you’ve already noted, an attempt by the Mexican cultural elite to latch onto a founding myth for their country.

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    5. The Olmec, Maya, and others sacrificed people. The scale of the Aztecs eventually put them beyond the pale as far as the neighbors were concerned. Some revisionists claim that the mass sacrifices (1000 or so to dedicate a single new temple) were brand new, and started with one individual. Based on the cultures prior to and around the Aztecs? Nah. They were just overachievers.

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  6. When there are 99 acts of violence by mobs oif left-wing psychopaths, cheered on by the Left, and the Leftroids point to 1 act of violence by an unhinged right-winger, condemned by conservatives, and screech “See, you’re just as guilty, neener neener!”

    …we can’t ‘turn down the temperature’ when they’re hogging the thermostat, hissing and spitting at us.

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    1. -Their- goal is “American civilization collapses in an orgy of fratricide”.

      It -wont- turn out the way they want it. Not even close.

      Then again, other than their absence, it wont turn out the way -we- want, either.

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      1. And here we come to the traditional question in law “Cui Bono?” That is that “Who Benefits?”. And here it will not be the Democrats that benefit. In days of yore it would have been the USSR. Today the successor state Russia may want that result as ex KGB run the joint (for some small values of run) but they are so comprimised that they would be unable to get much value from it. But I think more that this dream is held mostly by a leader that bears a strong resemblance to a stuffed bear voiced by Sterling Holloway.

        I fear that with USAID money cut we may start to see the rabble rousers getting their money through long complicated chains of control from the Middle Kingdom.

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        2. The Middle Kingdom’s got a *lot* of financial problems right now. It’s hard to say what all is being affected since they’re so opaque about so much. But if you watch Youtube streamers like The China Show, you get a more clear idea of the mess that’s building up in that country. A couple of weeks ago, the episode I watched included a video by a guy in China who resells industrial equipment from Chinese firms that went bankrupt and had to unload their industrial equipment in a fire sale… and now he can’t sell any of the stuff he’s bought. There’s no demand because the manufacturing sector is being hit so hard. And this is just one of the many areas that are hurting.

          It’s always hard to tell what’s going on over in China. But all indications are that things are pretty bad over there.

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  7. What was it Herodotus said about how the Persians trained their young, “to ride, to shoot the bow, and to speak the truth.” How do our elites train their young. To sit, to screen, and to lie, lie, lie. What do we think would happen?

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  8. 🗿 Woe to those who dwell upon the earth 🗿·Sep 21, 2025@treblewoe·

    It is the widow’s duty to embody forgiveness.

    It is the ruler’s duty to embody wrath. Woe to those who dwell upon the earth.

    Her: be right with God.

    Him: meet God.

    *copy and pasted from X

    a ruler has responsibilities to bring justice for the people.

    Woe to the ruler who refuses his duty. And Woe to his people as well.

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  9. You’re wrong about one thing — communism did not fill 100 million graves. They didn’t bury all those ‘wreckers and Kulaks’ individually, or even bother to count them, just shoved them into pits. So the correct expression is ‘100 million corpses in mass graves.’

    No matter how it starts out, what promises are made, communism always ends in mass graves.

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  11. It is not a good thing to hate the rabid sociopaths. It only riles the stomach and makes life miserable in other ways.

    That does not mean that they should be allowed to continue their sociopathic behaviors. They must be stopped – by any means necessary.

    “Necessary” is a precise wording here. A few, a very, very few, require incarceration for life or execution (my view is that execution is the more merciful solution, but YMMV). For the vast majority, the necessary means is to remove them from any position of power, and ensure that they never, ever, regain those positions in any way, shape, or form.

    “Love” is the proper response – love of the people that these sociopaths would harm if we allow them to continue.

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  12. Well said Sarah!

    Preface, I’m an Universalist. I believe morality statements must perforce apply to all sapient beings regardless of configuration or spatial location.

    Hate is a null operator for beings subscribing to the Zero Aggression Principle. If they don’t, then the selfsame principle tends to nullify said beings.

    Keep ZAP in the forefront of individual actions, and awareness status orange daily!

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  13. From what I can tell, Kirk’s assassin was actually totally deluded by false things his hangout group told him about Kirk. You can get that from watching the vids of AOC and Jasmine Crocket. They may well know how much they’re lying, but I have no doubt they never had any interest in actually looking for the truth. It’s a shame because the truth is out there, on video, freely available. All you have to do is look, but, having imbibed THE truth of Marxism, they don’t want to have any facts get in their way. I suggest that, while he awaits trial, Kirk’s assassin should be forced to watch all of the hundreds of hours of video of Kirk speaking and talking respectfully to his detractors.

    I fully expect for it to come out that Tyler Robinson did some serious drugs during his brief sojourn in college. It’s hard to get someone to become so deranged so rapidly without a little physical assistance.

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    1. It does not surprise me at all that most mass murderers are heavy pot smokers.

      For what it’s worth, I doubt taking up THC at an advanced age does much, if any, harm. But that is seldom the case.

      Most people who use marijuana adopt it at a young age, before they have learned to control their emotions. So they become absolutely dependent on it. Then, when there’s no THC available, they do insane things, usually beating up their girlfriend, but occasionally murdering large numbers of people.

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        1. There is also the difference of the “3.2 Beer” hemp/pot of the 19th century, versus the “Grain Alcohol with extras” foShizzleDope of 2025.

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          1. I gather that the difference between 1970s dope and the current version is quite noticeable. Midwestern Ditchweed seldom rated up to the 3.2 level, and I was too cheap to get the “good” stuff. I believe I bought a total of one ounce in my lifetime. Alcohol was more tempting, but I managed to avoid that trap, though it was a near-run thing a few times.

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            1. From what I understand, the THC-to-CBD ratios are what has primarily changed. And the CBDs are apparently the moderation factor. Most people who are doing pain/anxiety management have gone straight to the CBDs as the effective part, now that they’re available separately.

              Oh, and it’s entirely possible to get fentanyl-tainted marijuana now. Some colleges provide testing strips to make sure your weed is clean, since the semi-legality of pot shops means there’s no real tracing protocol for their stuff, and students have died.

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              1. I read somewhere that the average THC level in weed has gone up fourfold or fivefold in the last 40 years. From 4% to 20%ish. Which is one reason that adverse reactions like paranoia have also been on the increase. Better living through chemistry, I guess.

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    3. There have been a number of people putting up posts on social media and saying that they started watching Kirk’s videos after he died. These new viewers are discovering that the videos aren’t the hate-filled things that many on the left are claiming.

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  14. I don’t see what the big deal is about hating someone. And yes, I mean the actual definition of hate, not “hating” Mondays.

    I don’t know how any decent person could NOT hate Jimmy Kimmel. With his evil remarks about Charlie Kirk’s murder, he was doing EXACTLY what Richard Allen Davis did when he was convicted of raping and murdering Polly Klaas, when he lied that she told him, “Please don’t do me like my dad.”

    This “man” deliberately gets off by rubbing people’s faces in their grief. Most likely this is because after the fifth abortion he forced on a side piece, it stopped being about the convenience of abortion and started being a thrill.

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    2. Hate and rage can be disordering, like any other emotion.

      Disorder can lead to lower function.

      Lower function can lead to less effectiveness.

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      2. Hate and rage can also be addictive. You start it, and you quickly get so used to it that when your original target disappears, you feel a need to pick a new target.

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        1. C.S. Lewis had a entire chapter of Mere Christianity devoted to the topic of forgiveness, which he said was THE most unpopular of the Christian virtues (immediately after the chapter in which he said chastity was the most unpopular).

          The example he gave to illustrate the necessity of forgiveness was this: if you “read a story of filthy atrocities in the newspaper” (I presume he was referring to wartime atrocities committed by the Nazis or other Axis powers; a more contemporary example would be reading/viewing viral videos of alleged atrocities in Gaza, Ukraine or on the streets of any major U.S. city) and then later discover that the story wasn’t true, or not nearly as horrific as originally reported, what is your instinctive reaction?

          Are you relieved (“thank God even they aren’t as bad as that”) or are you disappointed and continue to believe or at least wish the initial story was true? If your reaction is the latter, Lewis goes on to say, you are at the first step in becoming addicted to hate — a process that will “make us into devils” because you are wishing that “black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, soon we will want to see gray as black, and then to see white itself as black”…. until we become fixed in complete addiction to hatred.

          Lewis also went on to clarify that forgiveness did NOT mean elimination of punishment or accountability for evil actions (and did not exclude the death penalty for serious crimes), nor did it mean having to like or have warm feelings toward the person forgiven. It means simply not hating that person or wishing them further evil in this world or the next.

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        2. The various social media algorithms reward strong emotional responses, which obviously includes hate. The dopamine hit mechanism they use, and the way they bubble users with stuff that’s like what previously got a response, means that feedback loop can amplify things way past signal into distortion and noise.

          That algorithmic emotional-reward thing is going to get some deep investigation someday. Whether that’s before things go off the rails or after is the open question.

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    3. I view hate not as something always to be shunned, but as an essential and inevitable emotion. It’s the natural result of anything that causes immense pain and/or threatens what you love. And if it’s recognized, moderated, and properly directed, it can actually be highly protective. Unrecognized, festering, and misdirected, as the left’s behavior demonstrates, it is poison.

      They preach anti-hate to the point where they can’t recognize it at all, certainly not within themselves. Instead, they cloak it in virtue and pretend it doesn’t exist — thus allowing it to run rampant, unrecognized, disordering their every action.

      I’ve found, over the course of the past five years, that hatred is much healthier for me than anger. Anger consumes energy and activates threat responses. It demands action. Hate is a bit more like The Dude (it abides). Unlike anger, it doesn’t churn and demand energy and attention. I know what I hate and why; I know who I hate and why. Knowing that, I can choose what to do with that emotion. I don’t let it drive me; very rarely does it need to be acted upon. Instead, as a constant background awareness of the evil my enemies are capable of, it reinforces what I love and value.

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      1. But it also occurs to me now that defining hate and anger and distinguishing between them can be difficult. It’s possible that we’re not all talking about precisely the same thing.

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        1. Agreed. Hatred and anger can take many forms. Unthinking hatred is rather common.

          I tend to take a slightly different view. Anger, hatred and the like are rooted in passion. Passion can be positive or negative. It can become obsession, it can become love, it can become hatred or anger. But the intense emotion? That’s something that seems common between all of them, even if the expression is quite different.

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  15. It’s how they “justify” their hatred. They claim their target is a hater so that makes any terrible thing they wish to do upon them “okay” to them. Even some very unhinged hatred of their own.

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  16. Marxism is the religion of envy, and that includes envy of the faith of the faithful.

    This is why Marxism apes all the outward symbols of organized religion, with catechisms, rituals, saints, and the promise of paradise to their faithful, and why they ruthlessly suppress actual religions where they are in power.

    The hate is just another tool in their arsenal.

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            1. For things like Kimmel? Not much. It’s when things like the rules about “you have to offer equal time to the other side of a political discussion” and “you must have X% local/charitable programming” that the national has some control, because the Feds have a say over those two areas. If a regional or local affiliate says, “I can’t get advertisers for this show” or “All my advertisers have said they will stop buying air time if I run this non-political program,” then the national doesn’t have a lot of say.

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          2. And, as predictably as the sunrise, our Leftist hypocrites are discussing using the government to shut Sinclair down. Sure, we can share a country with pathological liars and hypocrites….

            https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/09/23/brendan-carr-scott-wiener-n2419379

             Now, you’d think the Democrats who spent the last week crying about free speech and insisting Trump was taking away a comedian’s rights would be front and center defending Sinclair for making their own decision …

            Just kidding. C’mon, when have Democrats ever NOT been giant hypocrites?

            Scott Wiener is already talking about using his power to ‘break Sinclair up.’ 

            We can’t even make this crap up.

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    3. Ok so nearly no one was watching him before. He’ll get a quick bump from the “virtue signalers” who will find he is just as bad as before and his viewership will return to the previous level the House of Mouse will continue to lose money on it at a $40 million/year clip. Contract ends at the end of the year and my bet is he’s gone unless Disney/ABC doubles down on stupid.

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        1. I think not renewing the contract because he is losing them money (when they’re losing blood left, right, and center) will be their excuse. The usual suspects will throw a tantrum but even if they all leave Disney+/Hulu it is probably less of a hit than 40-100 million per year ongoing loss. Disney is skating towards this being a life or death issue, and what companies do when on Deaths Ground can be different. Of course, they could continue their roll to the left and die maneuver. It’ll depend on who management is come end of the year.

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          1. The problem is that he is losing them money now, and the revolt of the affiliates was reason sufficient. End of the contract makes it look like they were pushed around.

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              1. While they had absolutely no problem with the Biden* Regime (and the 0bama Regime) literally forcing private media companies to Toe The Government Line, Or Else!! 😡

                People a lot more important than Kimmel were de-platformed. Hell, President Trump was de-platformed!

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            2. Mary I think we can remove the “looks like” that statement. They let themselves be cowed by a demographic that barely buys their stuff. In the business world this is good reason to let someone “Investigate spending more time with their family” or a similar euphemism. Unfortunately the board is just as brain damaged as the executive suite. It is a shame, used right Disney could be printing money Like it was ein the 2010’s. Unfortunately they’ve driven stakes through the heart of every valuable property they had.

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  18. For me, when it comes to rabid lefties – the kind who cheered on the murder, and begged for more murders of conservatives – I just feel a kind of weary distaste. I don’t even care enough to hate them. Their irrational ravings, and spittle-flecked rants just bore me.

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    1. They are making me more careful, perhaps even paranoid. I have to go to the medical complex a few times in the coming weeks, and they’re a gun-free/free-fire zone. Mercifully, Flyover County is relatively sane.

      I do have to go over the Cascades to SW Oregon. I don’t need to visit any of the People’s Republics (Ashland being the worse), but even Costco will make me jumpy. The unsolicited/unwanted advice by “Thiose Who Know the Truth” was tiresome (“Don’t get the sugar-free cocoa”), but I’d be wary of any overt political behavior. (Larry Niven: “Don’t through shit at a police officer. Don’t stand next to someone throwing shit.” If anybody brings up events, I’m clearing the area ASAP.)

      I’m also hoping to avoid any Kovid Karens. Official Oregon is in the CDC-denial camp, so it’s going to be weird when flu season starts up.

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      1. Not advocating breaking the law. If one has to visit places, armed discreetly because of badThinkBosses, the KelTec P32 (.23ACP) and P3AT (.380ACP) pocket pistols are thin, flat, and tolerant of sweat and pocket lint.

        They are “locked breech” actions, so they are also surprisingly low recoil for lightweight plastic guns.

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  19. Do the mass murders of Catholic children bore you? Does Iryna’s murder bore you? Does the ongoing mass rape of women and children by foreign invaders brought in by the previous junta bore you?

    I get that you probably think they’re on the way out. That was exactly what the first Bush administration thought in mid-1991, right before Clinton won the 1992 election and subjected us to eight years of gun control.

    These guys are no more boring than Hitler, Stalin, or Mao.

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    1. Perhaps ‘bored’ isn’t quite the right word – more like indifference to those spittle-flecked apologists for murder and rape. I hesitated adding the rest of my thoughts about them in the current situation, but here goes.

      I am at the point of considering them as being on the same level as fire ants or cockroaches. Just shrug and dispose, impersonally – and that is horrifying to admit to myself. It’s rather like that meme of the Polish mercenary; his answer to the question – how did he feel about killing human beings? And his answer was “I don’t know – I only ever killed communists.”

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      1. See, I’d say what you’re feeling is the proper application of hatred as I described it above. If they cease threatening what you love, their status could change, but until then they aren’t worth any other emotion.

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      2. Celia, what you’re trying to describe is why Jesus wouldn’t answer the Pharisees when they insisted he prove them wrong. No proof would suffice. They had already “hardened their hearts” and become the harpies commanded by the evil one.

        OTOH there are those who have been fed on lies that are meant to appeal to their anger and fear. Charlie Kirk was great at talking to those. I miss my wife who had the gift of discernment. She could tell the difference instantly and would show infinite compassion and grace to the deluded, but avoid those possessed.

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    2. This is where the fallacy of “hate crime” comes in. I’m not “bored” by anyone’s murder, but I don’t care why they were murdered. It doesn’t matter. Lock up (or execute) the murderer.

      It’s the apologists that have become tedious. I not only don’t care why someone was murdered, I care even less about why the killer thought he was justified (they all do) and even less yet what talking heads think about what the killer was thinking. We’re now three removes from the crime. Just shut up and execute the killer.

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  20. I don’t hate.

    BUT! I do insist on being left alone.

    We can discuss. We can talk. We can argue. We can agree to disagree.

    BUT! If/When you insist on pushing your doctrine on me, or punishing me for not following your dogma, THEN you have a problem. I am now at that stage of life where I do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise, ESPECIALLY when you attempt to restrict or remove my freedoms.

    Don’t ask what will follow next. You will either back down, never to bother me again, or……you will never bother anyone else again. I am a direct man (20 years of Army service will do that). Sarah (hello…) wouldn’t like me to pollute her pages and eyes.

    “You no boddah me, I no boddah you. Kapeesh?”

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  21. I am currently suspecting that when the critical theory cultist killed Kirk, he also killed the hypothesis that science and education are allowed to happen at the major universities.

    Or, disproved the hypothesis.

    There is a basic question of whether students and faculty so deeply invested in critical theory would tolerate scholars dissenting significantly within their own fields.

    There’s been a suspicion by some dissenters at certain universities, that a number of the critical theorists were deeply ill, and would either violently or bureaucratically retaliate against anyone inside the university who was too effective at expressing disagreement with them.

    Can science occur at a university?

    Can education occur at a university?

    If for example, an academic field has a major assumption, whose evaluation is most accessible after a deep investment in the field, then maybe science cannot occur in that field, if such a scholar feels that they have no career outside of a university, and if they have cause to fear retaliation. Some number of scholars in that field may have become convinced that the assumption is actually wrong, and feared to say so.

    Education’s possibility rests a bit on whether a student can afford to be caught making mistakes.

    It is not simply a mater of faculty, staff, bureaucrats, and university leadership. It is also whether the students are a critical mass, and may plausibly include lunatics so violently unhinged.

    Anyway, the feds can print out a PhD certificate (in engineering even) for everyone in America, and mail a copy out to everyone in America. This is totally useless. This is also probably cheaper than what is currently spent by the feds at American universities.

    There is a basic question whether the status quo of primary, secondary, and tertiary education spending is much more useful than a PhD for everyone.

    The fuck ups by the most visible universities have created a tremendous opportunity for universities formerly seen by some as ‘lesser’. However, in my view, those early promising results for certain universities are based on a lack of awareness for the real fundamentals.

    Okay, maybe drugs, maybe listening too much to Democrat media, but it would be really surprising if he had been enough of a thinker to discard the critical theory junk that would likely have been present in his secondary schooling.

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    1. There is a basic question of whether students and faculty so deeply invested in critical theory would tolerate scholars dissenting significantly within their own fields.

      I have been there and seen that they will not. It’s one of the major reasons why I noped out 20 years ago with a master’s degree instead of the PhD I came in for. (Took me 15 more years to intellectually figure out what they were up to…I’m slow like that…but I sure felt the effects of it back then, and I didn’t even disagree with them all that strenuously; it was just an unrelenting pressure that eventually sapped the joy from the whole thing.)

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    2. Depends on the university. For example, there are signs that BYU is starting to take action to reign in some of the nuttiness that has even showed up on that campus. But BYU is an unusual case, as it’s directly owned by the church that it’s affiliated with. While the church leadership has generally taken a hands off approach to running of the school, that doesn’t have to be the case.

      I don’t know that, for example, the Vatican would have similar options if it wanted to reign in the University of Notre Dame, or other catholic universities.

      Some of the red state legislatures have passed laws attempting to reign in the worst excesses at their state schools. From what I’ve been able to tell, the response has been, predictably, for the leftists ensconced in the campus administration and faculty to burrow in while putting up camouflage in hopes of weathering out the storm.

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      1. “I don’t know that, for example, the Vatican would have similar options if it wanted to (rein) in the University of Notre Dame, or other Catholic universities”

        Pope John Paul II attempted to do that in a 1990 document titled “Ex Corde Ecclesiae” (From the Heart of the Church) which basically stated that any university that wanted to call itself Catholic needed to have an institutional commitment to upholding Catholic teachings. Any new institution that wanted to call itself “Catholic” would have to be vetted by the local bishop before they could adopt that label, and instructors who teach theology would also have to have approval from the bishop. Existing Catholic institutions (as of 1991) would continue to be considered “Catholic” unless declared otherwise by the local bishop.

        Since enforcement of this document was mainly prospective and left up to the local bishop, any crackdown on a “Catholic” university infected with wokism would depend on the bishop and, in the case of universities connected to a religious order such as the Jesuits, Dominicans, etc., the superiors of that order. Unfortunately many of them are just as infected with wokism.

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      2. Yes. The Education majors and a few others were protesting the changes at Texas A&M, saying that the poor, innocent professor was just showing students fiction books for young readers that happened to include sexuality in the stories. Academic freedom is now in grave danger and Something Must Be Done. Riiiight.

        And the now-former student at Texas State University was (in his own words) just reacting to slurs and attacks against women and may have gone a little overboard, but he didn’t do anything truly wrong or offensive. (In other words, “They made me do it, and I’m a victim.”)

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  22. “But I’m sick and tired, and a bit beyond, of hearing him called “Hater.””

    This is the type of thing we expect from the Left. As you say, Sarah, they project like an IMAX 70mm.

    Up to now, I haven’t hated them. I’ve thought they were idiots. They have hated -me-, but I have merely pointed and laughed at them because I didn’t care.

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  23. You don’t need to hate a pack of rabid feral dogs to realize the only solution is to put them down. However, not all leftists are rabid, or even feral. A large amount of them have invested so much of their identity in “the movement” because they have feel they have nothing else to live for. Materialistsic nihilsm is a right b***h.

    (For context, back when Breitbart died I was one of the hangers-on at places like Firedog Lake where leftists patted each other on the back while encouraging “citizen activist journalists” with a lefty slant. There was a certain amount of happiness that one of “them” had died. In retrospect it was probabaly because Breitbart was doing their thing better than they were, and could counter some lefty propganda points. I don’t think the leftists there ever forgave the betrayal of Obama when he ordered the Occupy Wall Street encampments broken up so the d**n hippies wouldn’t freeze to death when winter came. So their sponsors closed up shop and let them stew and become more radicalized. It can take a LONG time to break the default liberal upbringing many of us had.)

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  24. No, I don’t hate the Leftroids. I don’t waste my time obsessing over them. I do despise them, though. As one of my characters will say: “They’re worse than animals. They choose not to be better than this.”

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  25. *”But taking up Charlie’s role? That’s a lot harder. It forces us to believe what they’re fighting so hard to disprove: That they are merely misinformed. That they can be reasoned with. That they will eventually understand disagreement isn’t hatred.

    On the other hand, if there weren’t a grain of truth in it, if he weren’t succeeding, they wouldn’t have whipped up their lunatics against him and got him killed.

    So we should try. I don’t know how. You probably don’t either, if you’re one of my regulars.

    But we should give it a good ol’ college try.

    For Charlie!”*

    One cannot reason one’s way out of a position one emoted themselves into. Well, probably not, and it’d most like be a tough row to hoe. Anyway.

    A way that I’ve used to some effect in the past is rather simplistic. Start by listening. Ask questions. Do those two things a bunch, at least at first. You’ll get a grasp of what’s what after a bit, and things will start to become familiar.

    People don’t really tend to think with much depth about the things their in-group says. Partly because that is normal for every in-group. Certain things are like call and response, or just rote responses to accepted stimuli. They don’t really mean much other than “one of us.”

    Immediately calling out the liars is tempting. It helps to be specific, though. Approach from unexpected angles. Use humor as well as logic and history. Remember that anger is their weapon, not ours. Use instead the kind of thing that is anger’s nemesis.

    Be calm and collected. More than that, show happiness and an even temper. Happiness is damned seductive. It sneaks into the heart while the mind is preoccupied. All people seek happiness by default. That’s part of the human condition. There is a great dearth of honest joy on the left (Behar is not honest, yes, I see that pun).

    Speak with confidence in yourself, but listen with compassion towards the others. Yes, these fools on the other side have been bamboozled. Yes, that is a pitiable thing. It is easier to get through to the young who are curious than the older ones who are set in their mental hardware.

    Do we recall all the stories of older feminists wishing they’d had kids, got married, the whole shebang? Well, there are youngsters these days that wish they were never conned into the tranny mythology. There are young folks just starting out that are beginning to question the things they’ve been taught all their life. Counter-culture is endemic to the young, and the overculture is without doubt crazycakes insane and also commie infested garbage cult.

    I want all those kids and young people, all the quietly desperate and the ones feeling trapped with no way out to know something. We are not the monsters portrayed in media. We don’t want innocent people to die. We want this country where we can disagree on things peacefully. I don’t agree with all the dumb stuff the R party gets up to. You can complain about the L party, too.

    At least you can to us. Those on the left, they don’t tolerate dissent. Funny, for the party of “tolerance.” The ones you are talking to might never agree with you in front of the crowd, but you might meet them somewhere else privately where they will whisper to you that they were scared, but think you might be right about something, too. They just can’t risk it. Not saying it where others can hear.

    I want that culture of repression and cult-like enforcement changed. I want us to keep talking, even to lefties, because I want them to see us as who and what we are. People not cheering for the murder of anyone. What we want is simple. To raise our children well. To keep what we earn. And to be left alone to pursue happiness how we please, with malice and hatred toward none.

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    1. Kudos from the Reader for this. It will be hard but we have to try. But don’t forget to keep your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.

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  28. I suppose it was inevitable. Now Leftroids are claiming Charlie Kirk’s murder was faked. Like the moon landings. Riiiiight.

    They know they would fake a public murder to score political points, so naturally that’s what we did. Hell, they commit real murders to score political points!

    I suppose all those psychotic left-wing moonbats cheering for the murder were faked, too.

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  30. But … but … if they didn’t teach the “revealed truth” it might be as bad for “the people” as not knowing that WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

    :-)

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  31. But … but … if they didn’t teach the “revealed truth” it might be as bad for “the people” as not knowing that WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

    :-)

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  32. But … but … if they didn’t teach the “revealed truth” it might be as bad for “the people” as not knowing that WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

    :-)

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  34. I hope this isn’t true but if it is some people we disagree with are gonna need prayer and/or new livers.

    Liberal women are allegedly filming themselves chugging Tylenol to Show Trump What They Think of Him. (Because RFK Jr. is alleging a link between autism and Tylenol use and of course neither side has a link of nuance or maybe good sense).

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      1. They’re probably wondering if they have enough liver transplants.

        Tylenol (acetaminophen) is almost completely broken down by the liver. During this process, a toxic chemical forms. Normally, the liver makes it non-toxic. But if you take too much Tylenol, the liver can’t properly process it all. The toxic chemical can then build up and poison liver cells.

        https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys

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    2. Yeah, when I saw RFK was talking about stuff, I was reminded of the fish tank cleaner murderous lunatic.

      Had the thought that I hoped that there were relatively few of those murderous lunatics wandering around.

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  35. And meanwhile, Trump has ripped a bunch of new anal orifces at the UN. It’s notable that the escalator quit when he and Melania stepped on it. Then the teleprompter broke (like he needed it). Then the microphone which had been perfectly loud for the previous speaker suddenly lost volume. Once is accident, twice may be coincidence, three times….well, you know the drill.

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    1. There actually was a third incident, that isn’t making it into all of the news reports.

      https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/united-nations-un-sabotage-trump-teleprompter-escalator-lbxzh8bfq

      “When Trump got to the podium, the teleprompter was not working — although service was later restored — while the main UN audio feed to TV news channels switched over to a foreign language translation towards the end of his speech, obscuring some of his words.”

      The UN people had exculpatory explanations for all of them, of course, if you are inclined to believe anything a UN spokesperson says.

      The Times also reported this earlier:

      “The Sunday Times reported that figures inside the UN had been overheard “joking” before the event about stunts they could pull to highlight the funding shortage faced by the organisation because the Trump administration was withholding cash. One idea doing the rounds was to turn off the escalators and lifts and simply tell Trump they ran out of money, so he had to walk up the stairs.”

      Conspiracy or coincidences?

      We report, you decide.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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  36. babylon bee factcheck watch

    calvinism-in-decline-after-trump-and-rfk-cure-autism

    Fact check: akshully this is like talking about cancer being totally cured after some dudes talk about maybe preventing this one rare cancer, like by wearing a hat outside, and federally funded medicine is hardly the be all and end all anyway. (But it is funny because K is Catholic and T is Episcopal. )

    pregnant-women-begin-downing-tylenol-in-hopes-sons-will-start-electric-car-companies-and-become-billionaires

    Fact check: akshully, Musk is an unusual example, and (long digression through genetics, IQ, and under employment) autism can be disabling, and the same raw IQ without the social challenges might be better at earning money and managing busineses. (Though, the ill advised early child hood ‘enrichment’ stuff that some people are conned by suggests that the ordinary baseline might not be thinking this way.)

    rfk-announces-its-actually-fine-to-eat-the-stuff-in-the-little-pouch-that-says-do-not-eat

    Fact check: Bob is insane, the scientific consensus has worked to be worse than RFK, set a wackjob to counter a wackjob, RFK is no more to be unconditionally trusted than any other source of medical advice or suggestions, and sometimes even a terrible scientist can be correct on some point.

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