
Once more, with feeling, I’m going to be the voice that cries in the desert. It’s not that anyone listens, but I have to try. And hey, if you can, spread the word. I don’t know if these help, but it’s logical and they can’t hurt.
Unless you’re in an all vote by fraud… er mail state DO NOT VOTE EARLY. Look, voting early just tells them how many votes they need to fake. The only way we can win against the fraud is with a total suckerpunch.
So, unless you’re in an all vote by mail state, vote as late as possible. And if you’re in an all vote by mail state, if they have a place you can come to vote if you spoil your ballot do so, and vote at the last minute. The later the better.
Vote as late as you can get away with. Take friends with you to vote as late as possible.
AND DO NOT — REPEAT — do no use the machines. If there’s an option for getting the paper ballot and fill it, do so, even if the line is ten times as long.
At this point we know, and there was an article on this site about it, that AT BEST Dominion machines are massively insecure. At worst, well…. They were created to help a Venezuelan tyrant win. You fill in the blanks.
So, again from the top: vote as late as you can get away with. Vote on paper.
Until we can get the whole thing reformed, that’s the best we can do.
And hey, even if they fraud themselves in, let’s make them spin up 400 million votes for Commie LaWhorish. Then everyone will know! It’s a goal.
Come on, 400 million!
C4C
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I have no plans to vote early. My wife, unfortunately, will have to as she will be in Florida on Election Day. But I don’t on principle.
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Which is probably why Dominion is threatening anyone who criticizes their machines with being sued, as you pointed out on Insty this morning.
https://instapundit.com/679092/
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In other news, GA SoS Raffensperger (RINO) is privately organizing lawyers to sue the GA Elections Board members who won’t help the steal.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/10/22/georgia-interference-sos-n2402578
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I know it makes me sound old, but I miss the days when absentee ballots were only for people who were unable to come to the polls on election day, and when we voted we literally pulled a lever. No computers, and the only part of the machine that used electricity was the light. Absentee ballots were sent to the polling place and weren’t opened until after the polls closed, and were counted there at your polling place. Votes were counted, posted on the door, and on their way to the County Seat by 9 PM.
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Its not just Dominion. Any use of computers in voting is inherently insecure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI
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There is exactly one kind of machine I’d consider acceptable although I’d want to see new versions with a paper ballot created (probably via punch tape): lever machines. I’ve been a poll watcher with them and defrauding them would be very, very hard.
Anything else? Forget it.
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WA state (early ’80s) did punch machines. Put in your ballot. turn pages and punch the response. Then it was ran through a counting machine. Chads anyone? Easy to insure removed by voter, with anyone with any sense God gave the average ginger cats (that share a single brain cell, not the ones like Tj or the 3 that reside at Sarah’s). Now WA state is vote by fraud, er, mail.
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I’m surprised the Rat didn’t try to get us to mail
maybe when he’s governor he’ll succeed.
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The GOPe machine is pressing voting early really hard, claiming it helps the campaigns to conserve resources. (So much for the secret ballot.) Clay and Buck are pressing this strategic point. I agree with your point about the fraud, but keep hearing the establishment line daily.
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The GOPe machine is a mess.
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Yes. Although (and, as Glenn puts it, Don’t get cocky) it appears DJT is beating Commie-La like a red-headed stepdrum. Might even beat the margin of fraud.
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except I think the fraud is elastic. And that scares teh spit out of me.
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They want enough fraud that they can pretend clearly it wasn’t fraud and lets them get back to the trough without their votings picking someone who will provide results based on the platform (which the GOPe hasn’t believed in years assuming they ever did).
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To be fair, early voting (in person or by mail) is a big help to either political party when it comes to turning out their marginal voters. Same day voting means a lot of follow-up in a very narrow time window. Every early ballot is one more person you can check off the list and not worry about during the 12-14 hours you have available to you on election day.
Now I don’t think making life easier for politicians is valid consideration when it comes to election laws, but that doesn’t mean early voting doesn’t help both sides somewhat. Dems like it because for most of my lifetime they’ve had a lot more voters they need to drag out to the polls, so it helps them more, but you play the game with rules you have, not the rules you want. Ironically, I’m getting a sense they are having some second thoughts about that this year, as Trump gets a lot more marginal voter support than your typical post-war Republican (he is doing much better in the 18-24 age group, as well as with all working class voters, both low-turnout). Part of the reason for the Red Ripple in 2022 was that Trump wasn’t on the ballot, and a lot of his marginal voters didn’t turn out.
The Dems are campaigning on the Obama 2012 model – turn out their base and do everything they can to suppress Trump’s. When Harris is parroting Trump’s ideas it’s as much about giving marginal Trump supporters attracted by them a reason to stay home as it is trying to get them to vote for her. Same with the non-stop “former Trump voter now voting for Harris spam”. Here in PA you can see it with the Senate race as well – abortion ads to turn out the Dems and “McCormick is a rich investment banker who wants to cheat you” to distract Trump’s working class support.
I’ll be delighted if Trump is able to use the Dems own tools and beat them at their own game. The internal backbiting if the exit polling supports this will be a treat.
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What rules? The Democrats don’t play by any rules. They break every existing law, plus they make up new laws to break. They sued to keep thousands of dead voters on the rolls. ‘Somebody’ in the Georgia state government is reinstating fraudulent voter registrations faster than they can be removed. Here in San Diego there are more than 70,000 invalid registrations that they refuse to remove as required by law. When I owned a rental house, they got fraud-by-mail ballots for tenants that moved out years before.
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^^^THIS^^^
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Yeah, well, another reason was election fraud.
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THIS.
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It’s a question of focus.
A major part of the frauds in 2020 and 2022 lay in making difficult or impossible to vote on Election Day.
Most obviously used in Arizona, where there was a deliberate decision to use paper with which standard marking pens would spoil the ballot, and where ballots were deliberately printed the wrong size so they could not be read by the scanner.
The proportions to ascribe to the various routes of fraud are difficult to know. But it was certainly significant.
If I were in a purple or blue district, I’d be every bit as worried about waiting to Election Day as I would be handing over my ballot early.
(As neither is a factor for me, I’ll be voting on Election Day. I’m a traditionalist.)
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Alas, this.
Not to be an Uppity Downer, but if the Democrats have already voted early and often, even a Democrat can decide–all by they/themself, no Conspiracy needed–that Election Day itself is the day to engineer acts of Bob. (Please, no need for examples.)
Anything that plausibly cut into Election Day turnout, even in a conservative area, would plausibly cover the Machines’ flipping (or floating-point “weighting”) as many votes as needed–if they could do such things, that is, which of course they can’t, and it’s unDemocratic Rethuglican dis-mal-mis-information even to silently entertain the thought, you racist sexist phobe you, and I’m not being sarcastic, nosiree, totally serious here and you can’t prove s#¡+!
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Also in Arizona, go to the polls on election day, get told you already voted early, get given a provisional ballot that will never be counted as there is no way they will/can undo the fraudulent early vote. The best reason to vote early is to beat ballot thieves to the punch.
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We haven’t had a secret ballot in my state since they went to the electronic machines 20 years ago.
The latest system, you present your photo ID, they print a personalized ballot for you with your name, address, and other identifying information, and you feed it into the voting machine, which then prints your selections onto the otherwise-blank ballot. On the way out you drop the ballot into “scanner” sitting on top of a trash can. The scanner is also a shredder.
They’re not saving the personal information off the ballot. [pinky-swear].
And, of course, the shredder means no contests and no recounts.
I went through the rote motions of voting this morning, but I’m under no illusions my choices meant anything.
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There’s a federal law that all ballots have to be preserved for almost 2 years after an election. They’re violating the law on Election Day and nobody does squat.
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Ah, so sort of like those gun purchase records that can’t ever create a gun registry…
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Vote early IFF (IFF) you live in a state or are subject to having your identity stolen.
You want your ballot to be the one that gets 1st-in counted.
We’re not in that position, and are hand delivering ours to the County elections office.
Do. Not. Mail. It.
If you need to use a drop box, pick one in an upper class proggy white neighborhood.
I doubt browner urban Americans have voted in several generations. More likely the drop boxes are trashed and the pre-printed “this is how they are supposed to vote” ballots are used. Sustainable-!
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Oregon – Vote by mail.
We’ll fill out the ballots. But drop them at county offices on N. Delta (won’t go downtown), Monday night (on our way to Red Lobster for all you can eat shrimp), so we are all in the vehicle dropping them off.
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Looks like WP changed commenting, again. Now just my profile picture (Pepper, is adorable) instead of having to enter my email and profile name. Although no option to say “get new comments by email” either. That better be automatic.
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The county uses drop boxes in addition to Oregon’s vote-fraud by mail. When there was a measure to outlaw pot shops in the county*, the drop box by the senior center was mysteriously (for values) vandalized. OTOH, the drop box next to the county clerk’s office in the downtown HQ is protected reasonably well, so we’ve been using that since we moved here.
I have to pay property taxes next week, and that office right by the clerk’s window, so it’ll be one-stop shopping.
((*)) No pot shops under county rule, but Flyover Falls and $TRIBAL_TOWN passed override measures. Seems the mayor of $TT wanted the business for himself. I don’t recall the circumstances for F-Falls’ override, but there are a hell of a lot of pot shops in the town. OTOH, there used to be a lot of lumber mills, and when they closed, a lot of used car dealers and tanning salons. When they closed, it was beauty salons and solar energy installers. For a while… We’re now in the pot-shop phase. No idea what’s next, but I’m seeing the first few closed ones.
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There are so many in Eugene that people are starting to gripe. Joke is fuel station closes, then a new pot shop is coming in. In … Eugene!
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Oregon’s governing class is systematically kulaking the free portions of the State. Dutch Bros. was driven out.
IDK how free parts of the several states can free themselves from the malign collusion of the city-traitors with the congresscritters.
But Florida seems to have a clue.
Worth figuring out what parts are repeatable.
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I seldom buy coffee at the kiosks, but an eggnog latte from Dutch Bros is an annual treat. [Looks it up.] OK, corporate is bugging out. I hope the kiosks stay around, though my commerce ain’t going to save anything.
Our congresscritter is a RINO, but he’s better than a Donk. Can’t get leverage at the primary level, so far.
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Wait? What? Dutch Bros started in Medfort/Grantspass area!
Haven’t bought Kiosk coffee Dutch Bros or Starbucks forever, because retired (so it is the home brew, since I drink house coffee regardless). Did notice that the closest Kiosk was gone and parking lot torn up. Thought it was because of a major (major as in it has been a mess forever, and it is definitely a different design, lanes, corners, etc.) intersection infrastructure at Irving, Hunsaker, on River Road North (north of Beltline). (One might ask 3 roads? Intersection is two roads! Irving and Hunsaker each start at the intersection, or one ends when crossing the intersection and the other starts. This is Eugene for you.) Didn’t think it was because the Dutch Bro Kiosk was taken out and it’s underlying infrastructure was ripped out. (Might be a wrong interpretation. Need to pay attention to other locations.)
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There is/was(?) a large DB kiosk near the hospital and the taqueria I used to eat at (sigh). A couple others on the main drag, though there’s a few competitors (Human Bean, I think). The big pet supply/boarding/training/agility place has a “Coffee Paws” in the parking lot. (They also hosted puppies from the shelter. We got our first Border Collie through them. Two sisters in the kennel. I said “the first one out, we’ll adopt.” One retreated to the back while the other ambled to the gate. Then the first one got a running start, knocked her sister ass over teakettle and was out the gate. Sara the Lab-Aussie approved, and we adopted the girl, named Angie.
The coffee was good, too.
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Headquarters is moving out of Oregon. IDK where.
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Okay then. Guess not. Need to hit the little “tool” button to select “email me new comments”.
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The Reader notes that the ’email me new comments’ feature is not working for him. Neither is the ’email me new posts’ feature.
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Whether or not the different features, whether the new formatting options that show up at the top, or the new method of acknowledgement of being logged in, I’d say are a coin toss, but there are only two sides to a coin. A 3! sided dice toss, maybe?
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Exactly! I live in a pretty secure state for elections (though they did cheat for Tester in 2020). I will vote in person, with my hubby, as we always do.
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“Nope! Not valid! Putin muddled it too much! And Trumpers suppressed ballots! We will do-over as soon as possible, meanwhile, for the Greater Good of the Nation we hereby declare a State of Emergency, necessitating the following Acts…..”
“Cause otherwise our Donk Ass is Grass!”
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The one problem with waiting to vote is that someone may vote early using your name. You can file a provisional ballot anyway but IMO it won’t be counted because there is probably no way to ‘unvote’ the earlier one.
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provisional ballots do nothing.
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Exactly. So if someone votes early ‘as you,’ your vote on election day will not be counted. THE reason to vote as early as allowed.
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Ohio (or, at least, Hamilton County, requires photo ID and they scan it on the spot. (There’s a bar code on the back of the Real ID ™. I’ve seen it used in Michigan pot shops. Or … a friend told me.)
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There is a barcode on the back of the not real id too. Actually there are two. One has to be scanned to buy alcohol in Oregon, and some OTC meds, by the clerk (either full check out or whomever is manning the self checkout scanners).
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If forced to file “provisional ballot” that is time to raise Election Fraud/Interference and raise a stink.
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But the parties you can raise a stink to will just say you are interfering with the election and send you to jail indefinitely…
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(I exaggerate, but ..)
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No, not really.
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Not at all, especially when Democratic Party leaders and their media adjunct openly talk about jailing people who challenge the Party Line for “spreading misinformation”. They view Mao, Stalin, etc., as role models to be emulated.
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quibble: They are the Democrat Party. They are not democratic.
I don’t care how Offended they act, how shrill their shrieks about “disrespectful” “hate speech”, I will never cede them that adjective.
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Thus, “Donkuloid”.
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I will.
Even when I was a Libertarian, I was a republican
“Our demos” = “our slaves”.
Better a monarchy than an Our Democracy.
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I don’t at all idealize Democracy–“two wolves and a sheep voting themselves largesse from the public purse, served with mint jelly.”
I do acknowledge the connotations of the word “democratic”. To the modern American ear, “democratic” evokes “fairness and equality; the opposite of arbitrary Authoritarianism and Fascism and Aristocracy-Pushing-The-Peasants-Around-ism.”
But all that stuff–the usual tyranny, that the Founders tried to keep us from–is the Democrat Party’s goal. So I refuse their Newspeak, their perversion of language.
“Democratic” is a warm and fuzzy word. I say they can’t have it!
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“Democratic” is a warm and fuzzy word. I say they can’t have it!
Fair cop.
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As I said below with GA setting records for early voting and my county going gangbusters I decided to vote early to ensure I did vote.
Yeah, it’ll help Fulton know what to invite while the water pipes are broken, but at some point with both parties in this state in on the steal you can only do so much.
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Up until .30-’06 becomes required…
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The “know” we’ll never take it to that point.
Is such knowledge correct or just another thing they know that ain’t so. I’m not confident enough to bet either way.
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This is the great danger. The left will keep pushing, until they trigger someone. We dodged a bullet in PA. They assume we go quietly to the cattle cars.
Once it starts, it doesn’t stop until it crashes civilization for 400 years. This is our choice, Mars or the fall.
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It’s as much their choice as ours. The decide to push or not and if they decide to push we decide to burn it down (I’d say 100 years versus 400…maybe 150 depending on how bad the 5 year die off as we regress to circa 1900 in medicine is) or be slaves.
So the options are:
1. Mars (the left stops pushing).
2. USA 1900 (the left pushes and we push back) while the rest of the world goes back to the 17th century. Then we start back to Mars in 2100 or so.
3. USSA which has a slowly declining standard of living like we’ve experienced the past 4 years accelerating until it hits a cliff around 2030 and we plunge back to 1850 due to various things lost in the decade of pre-collapse and the rest of the world reverts to the 17th century. Then we star back to Mars around 2200 if at all.
Hell of a set of choices.
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I was home on a two week leave from Iraq in November 2004, right over Election Day. When I went to vote, I was told that I already had. I stated someone was committing fraud as I’d been in Bagdad the last 11 months and was given a provisional ballot. This was in Topeka, KS.You know what happened?Nothing.
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Voting early tonight since I will be working a “event” on Election Day. Yeah, the poop is hitting the oscillating device…
Our county is red and votes that way, elections are decently clean and the biggest problem is usually voter apathy on smaller elections. It’s enable the city to greenlight oodles of apartment buildings on a population that supposedly hates them.
Only issue is the county adminstrator for elections had to be b-slapped by the state over the question of non-citizens voting, which just verifies some of the data coming out that NGOs and the Feds are spreading money around to settle “migrants” in the area. Even the school district seems to be in support since regular enrollment is dropping, so their money train is at risk.
MF! (Sigh…) Not surprised the local officials are getting more openly corrupt with increasing inflation and increased development.
Time to up the preps.
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apparently we have the least problematic machine locally. Supposedly.
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by least, I mean a paper ballot that is then fed to the reader. but that is a Dominion machine, too.
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Even with those, we’re seeing isolated instances where the votes may be getting flipped here in TX. Apparently, you also want to use some form of stylus (such as a Q-Tip) rather than your finger since the touch screens aren’t very precise.
Remember, before you stick the ballot in the reader, check who it says you voted for, and if it isn’t right, ask for another one and re-vote. Also, watch and make sure the election worker puts the incorrect one in a “Spoiled Ballot” container. Your party poll watcher should also be watching for that.
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If they want to cheat they’ll cheat. Why do you think there was the early AM stop counting followed by sudden landslide of votes found for Biden 4 years ago. Voting on the day of the election does not prevent that. As noted above, if someone votes under your name first by mail, when you go to vote it won’t count because its the first vote they receive that gets counted. Sure you can vote a provisional vote but if they’re cheating they won’t count it. I live in a relatively low population AZ county that votes 80% Red. Still, we can’t get the County Registrar to do the work to cull out the non-citizens or the snowbirds who vote two states. Believe it or not the non citizens include a fair number of Canadian Snow Birds. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are a large part of the 20%.
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Me either. After all they are there 60% of the year. Doesn’t that make them US citizens? (Sarcasm, JIC)
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Why would you want to be a US citizen. Non-citizens can vote and collect benefits and often get to the front of the line for thing.
Citizens gain the “right” to pay taxes and face the draft (which is coming regardless but sooner if Harris is installed).
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There is a reason the HarrisBiden DOJ is suing Virginia and other states that are actively removing non-citizens from the voting rolls prior to the election. The only reason for the regime to do so is to facilitate those non-citizens having votes cast in their name (or actually voting) for the Democratic Party candidates. Period.
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Which the states are NOT caving to. There is at least one counter suit, with (implied) middle finger raised. Biden, et al, hasn’t just lost Israel’s attention, but various states. Which is both good. Good because it is mostly republican governors against the Biden administration. Bad, because you know that the democRAT governors will do this too, again, when the crack down comes onto sanctuary cities and states. Don’t get me wrong. Won’t say that republican president, even Trump, can’t pull something stupid that would justify any state defiance. But sanctuary status ain’t it.
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I’d admit I did vote early because of another cheat calculus: I didn’t want to go on election day to find out I’d already voted which seemed very likely as GA is having record early voting with my county leading the pack.
I understand your point and admit that was my plan but I specifically changed it due to local circumstance.
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BTW, the neighboring county, Dallas County, TX is having “computer issues” with their elections. (Early voting started yesterday…)
No great amazement here since the Dallas city and county goverment is corrupt DEI shithole. And all their computer systems including those of the police and courts have hacked multiple times over the last several years.
Was part of a team that audited Dallas County votes in 2016, 2018 and 2020. Mucho shenanagins including 50,000 votes erased.
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They’ve been claiming Texas is in play all year.
Will they cheat it blue to make the other cheats seem plausible?
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The shear amount of money that Team Blue and Team RINO spent this year is insane.
Team RINO easily spent 10-20 times that of the America First Republicans in many primary races.
And both Team Blue and Team RINO support the invasion. Mo’ problems, Mo’ money…
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At the same time respect and belief in the media is at it lowest, Soros is buying up media sites. Just let that sink in, and don’t tell me how smart or unstoppable these morons are.
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I think he is betting on Elon being forced out of Twitter and other pathways being closed.
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Well, when you can get help from overseas….
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/10/22/this-is-war-labour-working-with-kamala-harris-to-kill-x-n2402594
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Elon Musk is looking at the long term, survival of the human race. That requires spreading out from beyond Earth, and therefor beyond Earthly control. That’s why they hate him with a passion.
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I still think Ceres would be a better beyond Luna colony target than Mars – slightly easier to get to and from in delta-V terms, and clearly lots of water. But the systems and lift needed to get there is basically the same as for Mars, so letting him run with his objective works.
As RAH (pbuh) said to Jerry Pournelle, “If you can get your ship into orbit, you’re halfway to anywhere.” Massive lift capacity at low cost out of this gravity well is Objective #1, the prerequisite for everything else.
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They hate him not only because he lets users engage in speech that the aspiring totalitarians dislike, but because he exposed the conspiracy to censor speech that reflected badly on Democrats and other leftists, such as the NY Post’s Hunter Biden laptop story. They therefore consider him an enemy of the globalist state, and thus he and all his works must be destroyed.
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Ultimately, since I live in California, short of most of the coastline falling off into the sea, a’la the Superman movie…I don’t think any conceivable fraud would get Trump elected here.
But otherwise, yes-make it as hard as possible for them to steal the vote.
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As long as the Trump campaign is not induced to waste any money here in Glorious Gavin’s People’s Bear Flag Republic, as apparently has happened in the past.
Let the CA Dem Uniparty spend money to pump it up the California “popular vote” numbers all they want. A dollar spent here to shore up bragging rights on vote counts as they did for the Dowager Empress of Chappaqua is a dollar they cannot spend elsewhere.
They will still only get 54 electoral votes – notably one less than last time thanks to the millions who fled the state.
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Honestly, I would like the Trump/Republican campaign to spend just enough in California that the Democrats think they have to go on a massive buying spree here to “not lose any votes.”
I don’t think it’s possible, but the more confusion you can create in your enemy’s rear, the better…
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Laughable.
But there have been reports that Oregon is 50/50.
Believable, even slightly?
Heck, No!
I Wish. But if wishes were true, we’d own property and have a horse or three. Just saying.
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Who knew that Lex Luthor’s scheme was in fact a public service to the nation? :)
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Otisburg sounds nice.
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“It’s just a little place!” :-D
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Here in NH we use paper ballots we fill in by hand, which are then fed into a machine reader for counting. The ballots are preserved in a locked bin.
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Ditto.
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We used to have that: fill in the bubble on the paper ballot and feed it to an optical scanner mounted on the lock-box.
But now it’s touchscreen on the Windows machine, that prints your votes (on what looks like thermal paper, locked behind glass) in human-readable form along with a QR square. If I understand correctly, the QR is what actually gets (re)counted if there’s any dispute.
Sure. I trust it. Totally. Yep-perz.
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Baked in fraud.
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Just something that’s been buzzing around my brain recently. Hopefully, the reminder will never be needed.
DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER
THE WHITE HOUSE,
August 17, 1955.
CODE OF CONDUCT FOR MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES
I
I am an American fighting man. I serve in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
II
I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command I will never surrender my men while they still have the means to resist.
III
If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
IV
If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
V
When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am bound to give only name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.
I will never forget that I am an American fighting man, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
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Notably this was a direct response to the mistreatment of US POWs by the Norks and Chinese and Russians, and the resulting amount of collaboration, during the Korean War.
Fair history write up at https://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/Article/598075/the-military-code-of-conduct-a-brief-history/
It does seem a little weird to me, that the military’s response was basically “Oh, we just need to write six paragraphs and add training on those to Basic”, which seems to imply the tortured POWs just had not been told to resist, so it did not occur to them. But there were a lot of issues with training in the Korean War, with a lot of guys effectively untrained, especially compared to today’s Basic Training pipeline, so maybe added on top of all the other training reforms this was enough.
They can’t send everyone to SERE school, so it’s better than nothing, and from the linked article POWs have found it useful.
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“It does seem a little weird to me, that the military’s response was basically “Oh, we just need to write six paragraphs and add training on those to Basic”, which seems to imply the tortured POWs just had not been told to resist, so it did not occur to them. “
I understand why that sounds weird. However, my Army training during the Cold War stated that most conscript armies, at least in ComBloc countries and other authoritarian nations, deliberately did not tell their conscript soldiers what conduct was expected of them if they were captured. The thought process behind that decision was that telling the conscripts not to provide information to the enemy if they were captured would plant the seed that surrender was an option.
Beyond that, it can take 36+ hours (or it may take 15 minutes) to get a captured soldier from point of capture to where a skilled interrogator can question the prisoner to obtain actionable intelligence. For detailed interrogation, figure that the 36+ hours timeframe applies.
In resisting interrogation, my first goal is to hold out at least long enough that most actionable intelligence I might be able to provide is obsolete. If a Code of Conduct inspires me enough to do that, it has served a major useful function.
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Concur.
“Code of Conduct” / PW Resistance raining was provided to me by several, including a man who had been a “guest” of the VC, then NVA. He explained the rules, that the Enemy knows and disregards the rules, and that the Enemy is all about the head-f(HONK!)k. Hold out a long as you can, give as little as you can, and try hard to f them back. Never quit. You are still a Soldier. We are still at war. Act it.
He had a whole “legend” told to his captors, who seemed to accept it, and only the betrayal by some “peacenik” P.I.s here in the states gave his captors the real story. Which got him major torture from the Enemy, and major respect from his peers.
It is truly amazing how, if you explain what is expected of a man, and that expectation is high but achievable, you might just get it.
Thanks again “C”.
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And also, that’s the old one. The current one is gender neutral thanks to Reagan, and has something else Jimmeh changed:
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The problem with being captured is if the enemy doesn’t care if they break you, then they will eventually break you. And a lot of people don’t give a damn about the Geneva Accords. Our little Hamas, Houtis, and Hezbollah are three of the top examples.
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Its a shorter list of who does care about the Geneva Accords.
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It’s a “best effort” test, with strong assurance that it will be graded after significant delay.
“Code of Conduct” can only guide what a man already has. It’s up to us to grow the men who will utilize it properly.
And to shame those who do not.
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We always vote on election day, and they always have paper ballots for us. Kansas is a good state.
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and when they (deliberately) run out of ballots in red precincts on Election Day, as happened in PA and AZ?
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right, so you apply your wisdom to your own area. BUT be aware that you’re also giving them fair warning.
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Then you march in with a band of heavily armed people and perform a citizen’s arrest of that state’s Secretary of State, and the head poll workers of the polling place; and decertify every ballot in that district. It’s way past time we stopped playing nice, and got serious about election integrity. Literally hanging the malefactors is what needs to be done.
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As I’ve been saying here and elsewhere for a while, the sole purpose of voting in 2024 is to make the steal so obvious that even those crying “Peace, Peace!” will have to see that there is no Peace possible.
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Or when dozens of ballot printers in Republican precincts had ‘technical problems’ on Election Day.
Time to go back to paper ballots, pencils and hand counting. Yes, the counting takes more people. That is a good thing; more people have to be suborned to perpetrate election fraud, and it’s more likely to be exposed.
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Speaking of Pennsylvania, a whole lot of Nothing is still being done about them counting 766,000 more fraud-by-mail ballots than were ever sent out.
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I remember when we used paper ballots. They were then counted by hand on Election Night. We had the results the next morning. Why do the ‘more efficient’ machines take a week? With batches of ‘lost’ ballots turning up daily?
I just saw a clip of Joyless whining about a ‘fascist groundswell’. I ranted back at the TV, “Yeah, they’re called Democrats!”
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“Landslide Lyndon” Johnson seemed to have no trouble cheating with paper ballots. Why he found a whole extra ballot box of them to get elected Senator.
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I expect a high turn out locally for two reasons. One, it is a national election with huge consequences. Two, there are some propositions on the ballot that stink worse than a rotting whale in central Alabama in August.
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There’s a Star Trek villain whose name has come up a lot in non-Trek contexts in the past few years. Some of you on social media may find these clips of interest: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ds9+dominion
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Never change, Democrats…..
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2024/10/22/kkkamala-democrats-use-unintentionally-appropriate-imagery-for-halloween-ad-n2402605
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I don’t think we have early voting and I fully intend to wander over and vote on Election Day.
Meanwhile, the guy running against Josh Hawley had a pnto-op today of himself, Adam Kinzinger and entourage (?) “out at the range.”
He shot a reporter. Flesh wound, which is a relief, but the comments are enlightening.
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More specifically, he hit a reporter with shrapnel. Which could have been extremely dangerous, because they were shooting with rifles at steel targets from a range of 5-7 yards. At those speeds, any shrapnel that bounces back in your direction is still traveling at nearly the same speed as the bullet, i.e. lethal speeds if it hits you in the right (wrong) place.
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Um, steel at 5-7 yards? With rifles at hanging steel plates? Having a little trouble grokking the purpose here. Really loud clangs?
And yeah, splashing what-used-to-be-the-bullet much? Holy moly.
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Make sure you look through all the photos in this article to see what they didn’t get around to —- shucks.
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/10/23/kunce-kinzinger-shooting-reporter-hit-with-shrapnel-n2402622
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It gets better. Apparently they had a container of tannerite on the table in front of them. I don’t know how much bang that would make, but one commenter was saying if that had been hit by hot metal the guy’s Senate campaign would have ended on the spot.
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And Kinziger as a bonus — drats! 😁😁
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And, the would was quite bloody. So they applied a guaze pad and a strap/tourniquet over it as an apparent pressure bandage, all wrong.
So ignorance/incompetence is off the scale.
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some notes:
Steel targets with rifles (not pistol caliber -“real” ones) – sports generally put steel at least 40-50 yards away, to reduce ricochet hits on shooters. Angling the targets can help control the results, but the hits crater or pierce steel, randomizing splash. Pistol caliber low velocity all-lead can be 10 yards, as most splash is minor. 20 would be better.
But always, always wear safety glasses. Sharp splash is bad. True ricochets are worse. A burst breech is more worse. Either wear safety over your normals, or have ANSI safety glasses made by optometrist, including side shields. These purpose made ones have saved my eyes several times.
Take a real first aid -course-, with real instructors. Where you really apply/do under supervision. Learn to stop bleeding with hand pressure, pressure bandage, use of clot enhancers, flow restrictions via pressure point, and tourniquet use. (Also, when to just use bandaid, tiger) Refresh knowledge occasionally. Stock a kit with skill-appropriate stuff. Have it with you.
Don’t FAFO with explosives and exploding targets if ignorant. Don’t mix until ready to use. Deploy and use immediately. Read the manual/label (first and last) and stay in your lane, stumpy. Explosives are very obedient, especially to stupidity.
Don’t record your stupidity. Don’t share your recorded stupidity. Don’t post your recorded stupidity.
Wait. … uh …That last one pretty much cancels the internet. (Assumes porn is stupid.)
(Looks at my Cowboy Action Shooting self-made “diagnostic” videos. …. delete when done.)
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That’s probably the best thing he could do to appeal to most people, shoot a reporter.
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That was one of my thoughts – headline: Dem senate candidate shoots reporter in effort at cross-party appeal.
Another joke I thought of: ‘This was clearly staged – the reporter had a packet of fake blood, to make Dem candidate look like a hero with first aid’
Not that it made them look good, of course, but they wouldn’t know that, would they?
Was Dick Cheney not available for this event? They tried to get Alec Baldwin, but he’s a little gun shy now. Maybe some of Walz school shooter buddies?
Did this guy do better or worse than Walz? We know this one can at least get bullets into the gun.
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In better news, Buncombe County (Asheville, NC) Sheriff’s office says they overcounted fatalities by thirty people, and they now believe state total of 42 deaths is correct.
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Oops, our mistake, you’re not really dead. :-P
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This has happened before in the wake of Helene. A couple of weeks ago, the Buncombe County death toll dropped from either 61 or 62 down to 30, with no explanation given that I heard. This could be the same correction, just later, or a subsequent one.
It’s possible they could have been double-counting: remember the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when deaths at the World Trade Center were estimated at over 6,000. But with the time we live in and the governments involved, I’m not sure they aren’t fiddling the numbers to look better — and coincidentally right in time for Election Day.
We do not realize how important everyday trust is in a society, until we lose it.
Republica restituendae, et, Hamas delenda est.
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One headline I just read says “up to thirty” overcounted.
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Paging Elon Musk – the Reader urges you to buy Dominion (pocket change) and open source the software.
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Living behind the Silicon Curtain in CA as I do, I fully realize my vote is likely for the “wrong” candidate.
Heck, half my local city candidates are fully owned by the local football team. Amazing the difference a few million dollars can do to races where the campaign budget used to be a few thousand dollars.
I asked one of the unbought local candidates about voting issues, and he insists the voting early is best for him, even with the risk of cheating, for these reasons:
He recommended contacting your local group that’s working for voter security for details in your area to avoid cheating.
Our local group suggests taking your mandatory mail in ballot in to the county clerk and asking to see them run it through the counting machine yourself, in person.
Also, don’t just vote for the major candidates and ignore the down ballot options. Any unvoted office will result your ballot being sent to a volunteer “ajudicator” team who gets to decide if you really meant what you did, or if your ballot is now invalid. They will decide this in a matter of seconds, and often strictly on their own authority.
Just a warning from the ruins of a golden state…
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There’s also a thing here in Glorious Gavin’s People’s Bear Flag Republic where you can register to get text updates at each step of mail-in ballot processing, so you get a text when your ballot gets mailed, gets logged in by the post office on the way back, gets to the county, and then has been counted. Better than “I wonder if it ever got there?” like all other mail, even the ones where you can click to ask them for text updates.
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Info here:
https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/voter-info/track-your-ballot.htm
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It sounds like you are in the same Silicon Valley city that has been using their homeless funding to buy their “unhoused” bus tickets out of town down to the land of garlic for at least ten years, so you enjoy an enormously more practical local government than the others around here…
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Actually, I’m in the town that decided to build “low barrier” shelters in residential zoned areas (instead of light industrial as promised) on any “underutilized” property.
Low barrier means no one is mean enough to require them giving up booze or drugs. Did I mention the elementary schools nearby?
Did I mention the funding for this is shared between state, county, and city for 7 years, then the city has to pay 100%?
Did I mention the petition with 5000 signatures opposing that was ignored?
Did I mention that the neighborhoods mostly are made of recent legal immigrants who are first time homeowners? Not the rich areas, of course.
Did I mention the buildings are multistory, and overlook other’s backyards? I’m sure they’ll be entertained.
I can go on, but you get the idea. The city council wants to be progressive, and help everyone who is not voters or taxpayers. For equity, doncha know.
Sorry; my vent button got triggered. Six of my neighbors have moved, and I’m considering. I hate being chased out of my home of 30 years, though.
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I see we share our interesting city. I should have realized that the 49’s would try to suborn the council, since that is what got Eddie in trouble in Louisiana, and lost him the team.
The local races are important. Is it team 49 or team Santa Clara. Do not give up HOPE. I vote in person at the City library at Central park, on the day.
Back in the 50’s, we would have the precinct voting at our house. They would count the votes, and post the precinct results on our redwood tree, for all to see. Much harder to cheat. This was Berkeley, 70 years ago.
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My vote makes absolutely no difference.
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False.
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At the very least, you counteract a fraudulent vote.
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At the extreme, my vote might contribute to the popular vote total. My state is so Democratic, voting for either candidate makes no difference.
I would find it hilarious if Trump won the popular vote total. I strongly dislike the activists trying to pass “popular vote” laws in various states, in an attempt to nullify the electoral college. It’s unconstitutional, and it disenfranchises all in-state voters, as their votes no longer count. Trump winning the popular vote would presumably bring such measures to a halt.
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Trump won the popular vote in 2016 and 2020 and it didn’t stop shit. 60% of registered voters voted for Trump in 2020 but somehow, Biden got 61% of the vote. They counted 27 million more votes than there were registered voters.
But election fraud is just a Right-Wing Ultra-MAGA Conspiracy Theory.
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Reeeally pisses me off to see a bunch of Democrat yammerheads accusing the Republicans of election fraud for their efforts to prevent election fraud. Seems a crooked Democrat in Nevada was forced to resign, now they’re all screeching about ‘election interference’ by the Republicans.
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I wondered which Nevada Democrat was crooked enough that the news had to mention it; the only Nevada politician I remember hearing about was Michele Fiore, (former) Justice of the Peace convicted of wire fraud; a Republican (of course, or I wouldn’t have heard).
Didn’t find the Democrat, BUT… Take a whiff of this:
http://www.ktnv.com/news/the-top-election-official-in-a-politically-crucial-nevada-county-says-she-was-forced-out
(I’d save a Wayback Machine copy, were it still available. To spare our hostess possible hasslement, I won’t cut’n’paste it here.)
The gist is that Cari-Ann Burgess, (now “former”) interim Registrar of Voters for Washoe County, NV, seems to have been euchred out of her job. She had been the Deputy Registrar when the previous Registrar left. (IDK why.) Whoever’s on the job now–the article doesn’t say–is the fifth RoV since 2020. The Nevada Secretary of State (Francisco Aguilar, Democrat) isn’t talking.
Burgess disputes the Official Story, which is that she asked for leave due to “stress issues.” She says she wanted to stay, but was “forced” (the story doesn’t say how, or by whom) to submit in writing a request for medical leave. She says she’s using her sick- and vacation time now, “and was told not to contact her staff or speak with reporters.”
She’s lawyered up, but “county officials” can’t get around to her case until… wait for it… until after the no-doubt-completely-fair-and-honest presidential election.
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The Democrats don’t want all those illegal aliens they’ve brought in to actually vote. Oh, no! If left to their own devices, they might vote the wrong way!
No, the Democrats just want vast faceless herds where they can hide their election fraud.
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