Of all the idiocy going around in the seats of power these days, few things get me more… linguistically creative than The WEF Darvoisie wanting to curb “Misinformation” and “Disinformation” and Sally Karen Suburban in the US joining in because all those people are saying bad think out loud and aren’t even ashamed, and shouldn’t we stop them.
Both “Misinformation” and “Disinformation” as things that should be curbed by institutions and governments are ideas of the ditactorships of the twentieth century. And the reason for that is obvious, of course.
You see, big centralized governments — and there are none more centralized than communist regimes, which usually end up devolving into “strong man rule”– have an information problem.
They are tasked with making decisions for everyone in however big the country is. But they can’t know the conditions on the ground.
Even assuming a large city for a domain, and perfectly honest — bah — reports, the central planner might know that he has x tons of fish, which will allow everyone in the city to survive x days before the fleets have to go out again, and order the fleets to repair and the roads from outside closed to fix. It is impossible for him to know, above a couple thousand people how many of the people in the city have seafood allergies and how many will therefore die in those days.
Now make it into countries. Make the dictator have the ability to order factories started and stopped, to order goals of production, etc. etc. etc.
First, everyone up the line is going to lie. In that kind of regime, where your advancement, or even your life depends on the big guy thinking well of you, you’re not going to admit you had a problem, that a machine broke, that one of your subordinates failed, etc. etc.
This information problem gets worse the further up and more concentrated the information gets, because it’s virtually impossible for say the minister for rural production to know which cows are off their feed at the time.
On top of this, there is the problem of what people want. This is something our own Darvoisie refuses to understand. They keep saying “Buy why can’t you rent everything you need? See how much more efficient it is!”
But I don’t work that way. I’ve found for instance that houses younger than about 80 years feel odd to me. And if you replaced all my stuff with Apple, because “it’s the best for writers” you’d end up with a lot of equipment being given frisbie-tosses. Mostly because I’m not visual, and Apple has no way to get around “this is all visual and you’ll memorize the symbols.”
Normally, except for some very targeted gadgets, I use tech that’s 3 cycles out of date. I no longer buy it in thrift stores simply because thrift stores here don’t have it. They did in Colorado.
I get tech, clothes and furniture used, and then I make it last. And it’s not a matter of price — though it’s also a matter of price — and it’s not a matter of conservation — I’m not a rabid environmentalist, though I come from frugal and non-wasteful people — it’s a matter of what I feel comfortable with. When Dan bought me a car that was only second hand, I was terrified of driving it, lest I crashed. New and shiny computers inspire similar terror. And furniture? Don’t get me started. I like being comfortable most of all. I like not worrying that the crack I just heard was the very expensive table. You know what I mean.
So when they say “You could rent” I say “No. give me the stuff the cutting-edge renters discarded.” I like knowing what’s mine, and controlling it. And I don’t mind if it’s old. I’ll take good care of it, but if it breaks it’s not the end of the world, either.
They can’t understand that. They can’t understand a lot of other Americans who have their own reasons not to give up their autonomy and independence. I mean, some of us would rather wash our clothes by hand in the river than rent a washer, am I right?
The central planners don’t see that. To quote Heinlein, they never used an unsterilized spoon. Their whole lives are lives of chasing the newest and most cutting edge, and of course “renting” is a way to signal and great they are, and how non-materialistic.
Anyway, so, like that. They have an information problem. But as they realize that everything they do turns to sh*t because people are lying to them all along the line they turn around and try to control information from the top. Because if they can’t be infallible, they can stop people from seeing they aren’t infallible, right?
Our idiots have been snake bit for one and a half administrations now: Obama, and then Brandon. ”But I’m doing all the things that should result in wonderful stuff. Why do people hate the economy? What’s wrong with them?”
Because none of these people know, nor can they conceptualize, that a working class family might prefer cheap gas to “clean wind power” or value their kids being healthy and fed over opening the border to migrants. Because even if the functionaries closer to working class people know that, they have no compassion for working class people, or if they do they don’t want to show it, because that would diminish them, socially. It’s a social positional good to show how much you care for the environment, not for the garage mechanic or your waitress.
And so, the “elites” of the Junta come up with the answer for why people think Bidenomics doesn’t work: it’s that bad disinformation and misinformation. Which is when they run around, trying to shut it down. Because if people don’t hear about their failures, they won’t notice they’re paying a king’s ransom at the grocery store and getting less, I guess.
In fact, Brandon’s people have been trying to control people’s speech for a long time, from threatening social media companies, to outright destroying the lives of anyone who said anything about how the Covidioy was idiocy and the virus killed fewer people than the panic.
But the less their grand ideas work, the more they want to shut down disinformation and misinformation. By which they mean, things that disagree with their narrative, or expose them for the frauds and failures they are. Not to mention the things that expose them as totally corrupt freaks of nature.
“Disinformation” and “Misinformation” are very serious sounding words, and as some cookie-eating-(male)-bitch explained to me on Twittex “Misinformation are things people say that they don’t know are wrong.” And “Disinformation are things people say they know are wrong but they want to propagate.”
At which point I corrected him. (I bet he loved that too.) There is no Disinformation and Misinformation. There are truths and there are lies. And while people might believe lies, yes — like believing that Brandon is a good person — usually the cure for that is not to stop them talking. It’s to talk more.
No one, no matter how “expert” or “brilliant” knows everything. No one — on this Earth at least — has special discernment to tell truth from lies. Sure, you’re more likely to be able to tell the closer you are to the event/person. But considering I know three couples who seemed to be/were perfectly happy till it came out one of them had been keeping a whole other family for over 20 years, proximity and familiarity are not always a guarantee that anyone knows the truth.
There is only one way to make sure most of the people know the truth most of the time. And that’s free speech. Let the little boy who sees the king is naked speak. Let the person with no special credentials who can add up numbers realize that if the Diamond Princess numbers are real, then Covid is not the world-killing plague it’s been advertised. Let the flunkie in the low levels point out that his boss just told a lie or is misinformed.
Let them all speak. It will become clear who is right. And you’re less likely to all go careening over the cliff.
Part of the reason we are where we are — and the “elites” are now in a panic — is that for almost a century they did control information, sweep their failures under the rug, and paint themselves as experts and geniuses. (FDR — spit.) Because the communication technology was top down, easy to centralize, and had long since bent to the will of those in power.
Now that’s no longer the case. And they can’t stand it. In Europe and places like Canada they keep making laws on what people aren’t allowed to say, talk about or disagree with the government on.
And even then, their attempts are failing, because people find ways around them, and inform themselves, and trust them less and less.
Which is why at the WEF they’re all talking about how important it is to gag us, and control our speech, so we don’t lose our faith in experts.
That’s right a group that locked down the world, destroyed lives, caused deaths, destroyed young people’s health and happiness, and flushed half a century of wealth down the hole, wants us to trust them. And they think the problem is not that they are clowns trying to create a clown world, but that we don’t trust them.
To them I say, “Misinformation and disinformation are words tyrants use when they don’t want the people to expose their lies with truth.”
To you I say: hold on to the first amendment. Hold on to it and defend it by every means possible.
The only remedy for corrupted information is more information. The cure for lies is the truth and plenty of it.
Let my people speak. And the truth will become obvious.
According To Hoyt 
Speaking as one who DOES have a serious allergy to fish and any form of seafood, I’d be vehemently opposed to any such restriction on food. To make it worse, I also get sick after eating several other foods – I have a very restricted diet. Any such proposal would probably have me in the ground after a few weeks at most.
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Want my wife to collect on my life insurance? Sneak a bunch of shrimp into my meal. Yeah, even if I love shrimp (which I do), I can’t have it. And even chocolate doesn’t make a suitable substitute. At least I can have the fake crab meat or lobster, for now.
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Someone tried that on me with nuts.
I got lucky.
So. Yeah. The right to be left alone and find your own information is crucial!
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a lot of us have weird chemistry.
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So 4-6 months back I read something where some college professor had the perfect solution to American’s eating too much meat and damaging the environment with their filthy cows and chickens and pigs… and that was to ‘induce’ a meat allergy on the populace using a common virus carrier.
The ethics of his proposal were obviously lost on him entirely. My sister and I (and a whole lot of other people in this world) are allergic to soy. (You can’t be allergic to soy! It’s natural!) Making us allergic to meat as well, would probably wind up killing us, if the virus they tinkered with didn’t do it first, since we’re nowhere near designer diseases that work exactly as intended (see covid).
Add to that, my sister has developed an allergy to Round-up. The doctor thought it was a gluten allergy, but my sister can eat organic wheat stuff, no problem. She can eat old wheat stuff, no problem. (My dad still has the remains of a 55 gallon drum of winter wheat that he grinds himself to make homemade bread. It’s more than 40 years old and has never even heard of Round-up.) It’s the Round-up that they’ve started spraying on the fields before harvest. Some bright spark noticed that if they sprayed the field it would all ripen at the same time, so the whole field could be harvested at a higher yield, instead of losing some to not being ripe, or some to being over ripe. The result has been more and more and more people who present as being gluten intolerant, when what they really are is Round-up intolerant.
It’s one thing to have weird chemistry and another to have weird chemistry done to you.
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There is a tick-borne illness that does exactly that, inducing allergy to products derived from mammals. (Known to spread via the Lone Star Tick)
Alpha-Gal Syndrome
https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/alpha-gal/index.html
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That’s why I believe that tick and its disease are 100% man made and deliberately released onto the public.
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I really hope they aren’t that competent.
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They aren’t. If their competence matched their malevolence, we’d already all be dead.
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The seed folks engineered crops that are resistant to roundup. Spray the field with roundup and only the crop will grow. With no competing weeds, yield is more even and is overall greater.
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Are you allergic to glyphosate, or to the genetically modified glyphosate-resistant crops?
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Excellent question. Either way, it induces gastro-intestinal pyrotechnics that no one wants her having, especially folks who share a bathroom with her.
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Um…. so… sons and I. Soy acts as an emetic. I used to keep soy milk powder around, because for some reason syrup of ipecac didn’t work on the boys, but soy milk? Zero to projectile vomiting in less than a minute.
Note also that a lot of deserts they give kids for “free” in restaurants have soy in them. We ended up just refusing them all and buying the kids something after. Because throwing up kid in restaurant is not a good idea.
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Entirely too many foods these days use soy as a stabilizing agent or filler. My new BiL makes pretty much all our meals from scratch for this reason. An emetic reaction is arguably worse than gastro-intestinal distress.
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My brother was soy-reactive as a tot. We thought he’d gotten over it, until one evening when it was the only known culprit present on an evening date with his wife. Apparently one Denny’s doesn’t charge for the meal when it’s involuntarily returned onto the cash register.
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No, no it isn’t .
Told about our friend who realized her nuclear-level headaches always went away during Pennsic. For two weeks she ate off the camp food plan, which involved stews, stir-fries, and fresh-baked, preservative-free bread. Then she deliberately went home and ate something with soy in it. Yep, got a headache. So now she carefully reads labels and avoids anything with soy as an ingredient.
Of course, the globalist sorts think of ” depopulation,” as a good thing, so to them, having people die from food-allergies, simply means they are naturally selecting for a population which survives on sustainable, renewable, nutritious, efficient vegetable resources. So in the long term, the planet will thank us.
Excuse me, I need to spit.
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Allergen detection service dogs are a huge category. One antidote on Soy detection (one of tasks) the handler was being “challenged” by another customer (with snide remarks). Handler said “Normally would ignore, but sometimes.” Handler snapped that should one of her allergens be consumed it wasn’t a matter of possible emergency services would be called, it was Would Be Called. Another antidote mentioned was when the dog alerted to soy in soup the server, insisted “no soy was not used in that soup.” Dog was insistent. Chef was called. Sure enough. Chef decide soup “wasn’t right” so added “a touch of soy.” Allergen alert dogs can be for, well, anything. Soy, gluten, shell fish, whatever has a detectable scent. Bonus. While recommend staying away from flat face dogs (not a hard fast rule), any size dog can work detecting allergen triggers.
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Aye. $SPOUSE is allergic to gluten (a walk down the bread aisle at the grocery store means serious breathing problems for her), while my intolerance to it has only been life-threatening once, but that was sufficient. (The lesser attacks merely triggered “kill me now”. It took too many years to figure out what was causing it.)
Something forced me into the ER with major swelling many years ago. It might have been lobster; I don’t know. Shrimp doesn’t trigger problems, though it can contribute to gout, so it’s already off the menu.
Yeah, food mandates from TPTB would reduce the population a chunk. I have suspicions about ingesting bugs…
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to make things worse, if they followed “diagnostic” 23 and me SAYS I have celiac disease. I don’t. So, you know….
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Celiac runs in $SPOUSE’s family. I seem to be the only one with issues in my family–ate way too much bread/baked goods once upon a time. Now, if the fresh sauces at the taqueria use flour instead of cornstarch, I pay the price. Cholula instead.
I hate [that some] food that makes me violently ill.
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I hear that. Panera Bread is off-limits to me after one terrifying incident.
Food mandates make me bristle in self-defense!
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Son’s gastrointestinal/ intestinal problems are related to shrimp. One outing/month = 24-ish hours of gas (me to just not as long). More than that and son is out sick. Don’t figure it is the shrimp. Figure it is the iron accumulation in shrimp and amounts of shrimp. Anymore I get a couple of appetizers, not a meal.
FYI. Limited to cell comments. Thanks to our lovely ice storm, internet (& cable) are out; 3 days & counting.
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We saw news about the power situation in Eugene. Hope you are doing OK beyond net.
FYI, somebody (I have guesses) decided to “vandalize” the Charter Spectrum fiber lines by cutting them. Spectrum Internet is out throughout most of SW Oregon. (At least the cities; Charter isn’t out here.) Heard about it Tuesday, and it seems to still be an issue.
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Just Xfinity/Comcast issue. (Just got internet / TV back late Friday.) Always have had xfinity internet, not a lot of other options for internet. TV. Well dish options require us to get on the slippery icy roof to clear the dishes of ice and snow. At our ages? Hard No.
Not very far away power, not to mention up McKenzie, and other outlying areas, have been w/o power for a week and looking at another week. Source says EWEB and EPUB have ran out of power poles.
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Get a Starlink with a heater. Your cats will thank you.
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Tempted. Hubby said some of the men’s club who are rural have gotten it and really like it. Definitely would be a whole lot more expensive. Not like this is a regular occurrence.
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I’ve been thinking about Starlink. The articles say its worst-case bandwidth matches the best case for Hughesnet, and the monthly charge would be less than what we’re paying now. (OTOH, we’d probably have to pay a streaming provider, so that might be a wash.)
‘Tis the upfront setup that slows me down. I could use the Dish antenna mounts (now separated from the house, and easy to clean), but our TV uses the older HDMI spec, and there’s no handy computer for it. (And I’d want to do a hardwired ethernet connection or upgrade the WiFi.)
The lower latency is attractive. Geostationary satellites mean a long latency time, and modern web sites have a lot of back&forth communications. Script blockers and adblock help, but it’s tricky.
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“modern web sites have a lot of back&forth communications.”
Tain’t JUST the websites. I do software testing, and had to record a performance test on the company laptop that caught everything going out on ports 80/443.
Holy Jesus.
We install Teams, Outlook, Office365, Zoom, Edge, and Chrome. Not all of the settings are under the user’s control, and there was at LEAST as much traffic completely outside the application being tested as inside. And this was AFTER I turned off everything I could reach.
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I wonder how many poles are held in reserve, anywhere in the country. Lodgepole logging is still done around here, but probably not until March at the earliest.
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Logging for power poles occur year round. That won’t be the problem. Given conditions can loggers get into where poles can be harvested and get them out? Currently valley level is just above freezing. Then too the chemical processing can’t be hurried. I don’t know minimum time from tree cut to power pole ready to ship. Shipping? There is a local power pole creator. So that isn’t a problem.
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Trees that were cut locally (for values; the easy to harvest Lodgepole was harvested decades ago) might be able to come out, though I haven’t seen any log haulers with a load. Barring the empty, possibly brand new truck driven by somebody with Mario Andretti complex. I wonder if the driver hauls hay in season. (Hay haulers tend to be spooky, much more so than log haulers.)
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We’re only getting a trickle of water out of any pipe. My beloved figures it’s because everyone in town has their faucets trickling. After an afternoon in the upper 30s and an afternoon and evening of misting rain followed by a return to sub-freezing temps….well, I wonder if it’s time to start collecting clean snow/ice to melt. It’s kinda crunchy out there and it’s forecast to stay below freezing until Sunday.
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Welp, popped an A1C of 7.0 last week which means I’m officially diabetic, and just started on metformin. So far, no unpleasant side effects other than a couple of loose bowel movements (fingers crossed it won’t get worse). Seems that metformin was originally derived from substances in a plant called French lilac or goat’s rue, which was used as an herbal remedy for centuries, but is now considered an invasive weed in North America. Kind of like purslane, which is also considered a weed but is actually extremely nutritious and great for putting in salads and soups. I would consider adding these to a post-SHTF/apocalyptic herb garden….
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Yeah, loose stools is a common side effect of Metformin, though when I had to take it, I had the opposite problem. A blood sugar monitor Is A Good Thing. I’m now somewhere between OK and pre-diabetic, but I test every other day. When I’ve overindulged, the meter lets me know.
Good luck with it.
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Do not accept a Jardiance or same class drug prescription without a lot of thought and reading up on EDKA. It can increase the risk one of the nastiest diabetic issues, Diabetic Ketoacidosis, without elevated sugars.
5 days in ICU was not fun. I recovered faster than my bypass, it was more.miserable.during.
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When I was first diagnosed with Type II, I was prescribed Tolazamide. That didn’t go well; I’d end up hypo too often. The doc switched me to Metformin, then She Who Would Be $SPOUSE helped me get my eating under control. (Retiring with a huge raft of things that had to be done, ranging from raking acres of pine needles to building/improving an outbuilding or four had a lot to do with it. My weight is fairly stable, unlike pre-retirement.)
Stopped Metformin after a few years, then had to go back on it about 9 years ago. A few more years, and I’ve been off it. The only side effect I got from Metformin was mild constipation, and psyllium powder helped correct that. I’ve been off M for maybe 5 years, but I find the psyllium helps keep things moving properly.
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yeah, I have weird food allergies and sensitivities to stuff the experts say you can;t be allergic to. Seafood and shellfish among them. I am soo happy I got my trip to Boston before the allergies showed up. MMM, New England Clam Chowder. As to the experts who say, if you can eat tomatoes, you can’t be allergic to bell peppers, I say, “tell that to my immune system!”
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My body loves to be corner cases for various issues. If I hear “we expect this to happen”, all too often my body says “Hey. Hold this and watch!”
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Ah, but Sarah, in this great and glorious new world our betters wish for us (coff them) that rude and presumptuous boy speaking misinformation about our great ruler would have already been beaten into submission by the modern education system and know better than to speak such malicious lies against our benevolent ruler. Or the Stasi would have determined that his whole family were subversives and placed them in a reeducation camp where their tall tales could no longer pollute society.
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Some of us went through modern EUROPEAN education system, and had everything thrown at us, and did what we had to do to pass but accumulated a whole wagonload of NOPE on the way there.
Our “Betters” better like the sight of upraised middle fingers, because I’m going to show them those. A lot.
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😃 Every Tuesday (because Election Day is a Tuesday) I turn to face DC, display my political speech fingers, and tell FJB where to stick them.
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In the news today, apparently Javier Milei gave the tyrants of the WEF both barrels with respect to socialism.
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He did indeed. I only watched the part you note, but I have his whole speech saved to watch later. He said all the badthink out loud. :twisted:
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Ahh to have been a fly on the wall for that. I’ll bet you the faces of the “elites” could have curdled milk at 100 yards (or Metres given we’re in Switzerland), As much as I like Senor Milei I worry that brahmandarins will do something about him. Will No one rid me of this annoying truth teller springs to mind… Don’t like the precedent.
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Only reason there weren’t exploding heads is none of them had enough brains to attain critical mass…
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Argentina used to be the richest country on earth, by the standard of largest reserve of gold (by far). At one point, Argentina’s known horde made Fort Knox look like a miser’s purse. The early 20th century gave us the expression “Rich as an Argentine”.
Alas, they allowed Klepto-stocracy to rule. The folks at the bottom had no hope of moving up, as the thieves-in-chief wanted no competition for their spawn. Thus the impoverished turned to the Klepto-socialist/Perogies. Then the Klepto-Socialists said “hold my Malbec and -way- underage girlfriend…” Then the folks who should have known better tried a different ratio of “socialist/kleptomaniac/pedarast” every so often, and POOF! bankrupt and impoverished was Argentina and most of its folk. And until now, the answer was some variation of “steal harder!”
I remain skeptical that this is just another popular train-wreck. Show me. So far, he seems to be making good moves. But as the aristo/klepto/pedo wing plays for keeps, he may not survive the year. Most likely outcome is he gets whacked. If he succeeds much at all, FICUS/deepstate is likely to go all-in to wreck him as he will make the current dipstick look bad.
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First I heard of him, I figured he’d either go nowhere or get killed. But he lived, and he won. I’d still be surprised if he doesn’t either get assassinated or ousted in a socialist coup.
The Marxoids In Charge cannot let this stand…unless they’re confident enough that they figure they can wait and pick up the pieces when he fails? And as much as I’d like to think otherwise, failure is still the most likely scenario. Socialism and corruption have immense gravitational pull, and anything good that he does probably just ends up getting sucked into the same bloated orb that’s been poisoning everything over there for 100 years now. I mean, I hope not…but realistically…
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Probably depends on who he has supporting him, officially, and unofficially. And how ruthless he’s willing and able to be with deadly enemies. I really should dig out my copy of The Prince, and re-read it. Along with The Art of War.
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I watched a clip of what I thought I was Millei speaking in perfect English, but it turned out to be an AI translation of what he said, in his own voice. Also noticed a significant discrepancy — one outlet (Life Site News) quoted him as denouncing the “bloody abortion agenda” in relation to population control, but in the speech as I heard it, he merely mentioned “controversial” abortion policies. Now I’m wondering how much of it got censored in translation.
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I saw a video of the speech with a running translation, and ‘bloody abortion agenda’ was in there.
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If the worst happens, worse than any of the more likely apocalypses, and we are all forced to use Macs…
You can just put all stuff on the desktop. Ah, you say, but then all the icons will have text under them saying things like “Goog…me” and that’s not obviously Chrome. Close everything, press Command+J and move the grid spacing slider all the way to the right. Voila! Full text under the icons.
If you really need to make the icons on the Dock show text, you have to make an icon that is text and change the program icon to that. Yes, that is the only way. So instead of the Safari symbol, the icon is now:
SAFARI
or
SAF
ARI
Way back when I worked IT for a University, one of the faculty had a similar problem, but she had to use a Mac because some software was only available there. This is the work-around we came up with and it seemed to work okay for her.
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I hate bloody icons.
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ME TOO.
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Once upon a time, when I was younger and less wise, I observed some sort of religious procession in the street where the folks out in front held aloft a very old-style painting of a woman. A bit too loudly, I asked,
“What happens if you double-click the icon?”
It ended fairly well. My sprint-fu got me out of immediate range of hurled rocks and whatsis.
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I’m dyslexic. And have a Left/Right problem. And a directional problem (I’m not directionally challenged, I’m incompetent, getting lost driving 2 miles straight on a road and not knowing where I’m at is not unusual) . I have to memorize the icons. They flip around on me. Up/down/reversed/eveywhich way including loose. Reading is hard enough, but memorizing a few symbols is not bad.
But, changing fonts? great (sarcastic), have to rememorize a new set of letters. Oh you changed the icon, color/layout/whatever. Bloody hell what do I need to look for now. And frankly the way my head works, I’ve had to have cubemates tell me “oh, that’s a home symbol” at times.
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On the directional? We could be the same person. I hate driving for many reasons, but one of them is if the GPS fails, i can’t find my way from 2 minutes away to home. I just can’t.
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I need a map. Unless I’ve been walking/driving the same path for literal years, I need a MAP.
…Drove my HS crazy when I asked for a new copy of the building layout every year.
Oddly enough this often leads to me being the navigator going anywhere.
No, I don’t get people either.
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You 1) have the tools and 2) actually use them.
I’d probably ask you to be the navigator, too, and then join you in yelling at the driver who didn’t follow them. Even if it was me driving.
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Wry G
Okay, that makes some kind of sense….
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Whereas my brain is wired for map and compass work. I have taught it to others. Took me a while to figure out some folks cant resolve a topographical map’s marking into “terrain”. I learned a trick of drawing contour lines on hands.
Some folks still couldn’t get it.
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maps literally mean nothing to me. I can’t figure out where I am, so the rest is dross. eh.
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I took all but two geology classes towards a major (was an EE, but I love geology and it got me outdoors). Learning to read contour maps – required in labs. Not to mention, going out into the field and adding things TO maps…then toss in, MAKING maps… Being able to drive a Brunton compass was required for all this.
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In college I dated a (stunning) redhead grad student who was in the Geology field. I took a basic Geo class just so I could understand her. (I was ChemEng)
Alas, we were politically incompatible….
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When I was doing my PhD (Boulder, CO) , I dated a redhead too (!) (but undergrad). I found out she was going to have a lab out in the field, and asked her, and then her TA, if I could go (odd, yes, but what can I say). I promised not to be in the way. Well, this entire lab they learned (kind of sloppily) how to use a Brunton compass, and were collecting strike and dip data, and had to deduce the structure. I took all my undergrad classes at Clemson, where the rocks are mostly rotten (clay); getting structural data there is often tough. These kids were just taking data, writing it down…at one point I climbed up a small hill and looked down, and could clearly see the plunging anticline they were supposed to be finding out about. I could have given the show away, but that wouldn’t have been good for several reasons…the contrast with back home was astonishing to me. Back there, figuring out structures took so much work, but you could short-circuit a lot of that out west if you just backed up and took a look at the “big picture.” It was almost like looking the answer up in the back of the book.
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Sr. year roommate and I took Geology 101 (need hours for degree, both graduating in Forestry). We ended up teaching the Arial Photograph lab session as the graduate student TA hadn’t had it yet. We’d had it our freshman year, and already used in the field both in field lab work and seasonally working for the USFS (different districts). Also helped with the soils sections of the lab (different emphasis in geology over forestry soil science, but had more to contribute to the discussions than the class reading material provided). Loved the elements and compounds. Would have helped professionally had I continued working for the USFS or a private timber company. Log scaling, not so much.
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Oh, I remember the aerial photo stuff, particularly the stereo photo stuff. We had these viewers that were on folding metal legs. I eventually figured out how to view stereo photos without the viewers, but didn’t do it much…it made my head hurt because you had to cross your eyes at the right angle, and the viewers gave some magnification, which was very helpful. It was always neat seeing students have the “Aha!” moment when the photos “snapped” into 3D…
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Yes. Stereo Arial Photos, with the glasses to force eyes stereoscopic. I too could read the photos without the glasses for simple stuff. More complicated in depth required the glasses.
Hubby had to do everything the hard way. Doing measurements and the math. (Which luckily he is good at. He started out as a math major, teacher path. Until his first teaching practicum. He decided to change routes. Changed to (redacted) school of forestry. Where we met.) Reason? Blind in his left eye due to an accident when he was 4. (Now if it had happened his iris would have been repaired and he could have learned to see out of that eye. No damage to the rest of his eye. We looked into having the iris repaired about 25 years ago, because light bothers that eye. Odds low he’d see out of it. Back then, too high of risk that there would be a sympathetic reaction of his good eye. Not willing to risk, unless his right eye is damaged.)
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Had a “lost in Lassen Park” experience a few decades ago. (Snow covered the trails, and trying to bushwack to a lake was a miserable failure. No problems with camping, we were properly equipped. Yeah!)
The next morning, we had a discussion/argument about how to proceed. I persuaded the two other guys that we could get back to the car by hiking towards Mt. Lassen. Came out a mile from the car, and we knew which way we had to go to get there. After that, we drove to a more suitable trailhead and carried on.
Map and compass can be a challenge if you can’t sight the landmarks. At least we had one whacking great one in the Mount. Not elegant, but damned effective.
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We’ve had a couple of what would have been learning experiences had the youth had been there (pretrip checking out 2003 wildfire effect on PCT off Hwy 126 at the pass). Plus one when we had youth (on the trip). Two adult disagreeing where we were on the map. Both agreed the “map” didn’t show what they were seeing. I looked at the map and asked if we could be at a location on the map that did match the ground?. But, no, no way were we traveling “that fast” (can’t argue with that, I’m slow, except – guess who was right?) Thus triangulation time. Nice thing about Oregon PCT, plenty of options to triangulate on. And, yes, I was right. In addition, one of the options was what we needed to take to head to the take out point. The only time the troop bushwhacked off trails was the campsite at George Lake off the PCT between hwy 242 and hwy 126 pass. There are no trails that show on the maps to George Lake. My problem is I know the map is right no matter what other perception I may have. The. Map. Is. Right.
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I could get lost in my own museum. My youngest sister on the other hand was born knowing what direction north is at all times.
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North! Right, which way’s the sun and is it morning or evening… where’s the Little Dipper… (unprintable) light pollution!
Yeah, no. Maps it is….
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I’m fine with a map/compass and on the ground (i.e. trails/wilderness), or side roads. Put me on a freeway where the exit has 2 or 3 lanes that then split off coming off a 3+ lane freeway? OMG shoot me now! The fights we got into with just maps (having AAA maps helped a lot). Add in 42 – 50 feet of rig and towed RV getting off the wrong exit or getting off the correct exit but being in the wrong lane? Was not a fun adventure. GPS for the win. Huge difference.
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Dan keeps telling me “look for the hamburger” and I have to figure out the “hamburger” is three lines, horizontal on top of each other, every time. Because THAT’S NOT A HAMBURGER!
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I just discovered a few weeks ago those three lines are referred to as the “hamburger”
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I understand icons (mostly), but the “hamburger” is counter intuitive.
My Kindle Fire is a Mark I version, while my wife uses one much newer. (And smaller. My eyes!!!!!) The latest and greatest symbols that it uses for icons makes no sense to me. Circle, triangle and [something]. The little house and back arrow work.
I’m keeping the old Mark I until it dies.
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It’s the whole way the thing is organized.
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My Linux desktop has a bad tendency to rearrange the icons when I have to do a reboot. I keep the desktop icons limited for that reason. Putting 6 icons back into the expected order is annoying. Doing such with 40, no way in hell.
And yeah, my newest computer is a 2014 model. All the active computers (a couple sit around waiting for a purpose, including anchor) run the same operating system, with (mostly) the same applications, and are kept reasonably close with respect to updates. The two that are not networked get updates via sneakernet on a round tuit basis.
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I think you must be wrong about the Mac OS. I’m one of the least visual people I’ve ever known; I think in words and numbers. But I have found the Mac OS readily accessible in every version since I first encountered it decades ago. In fact I remember what a huge relief it was after I’d struggled with MS DOS and been driven to despair by it. I’ve worked with computers that run Windows, and it always feels like using a Mac that has had a stroke and not fully recovered.
Whatever the difference is between the two systems, I don’t think it can be reduced to “Mac is for visual people.”
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I’m not. It makes my brain bend wrong.
I think you started early enough that you adapted to it. I’m used to a different oranization, and Dan took the macbook away because I was opening the window to frisbie it across the cow pasture, after ten minutes with it.
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I’m fairly convinced that Sarah is wired … differently. So are a lot of us. Most of my friends and acquaintances are considered at least somewhat fringe. Even my wife occasionally says that some of the people I know are absolutely nuts. I just look at her, smile, and say, “Yep”.
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I don’t like the Mac interface, never have. I have begrudgingly used the Microsoft kr@p, every update seems to make it worse. I miss the old AS/400 system we had at work decades ago.
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Every update goes more Mac.
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If you haven’t been introduced to it already, look up Windows God Mode Folder.
Makes things much simpler to find.
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I owned one Mac, a Classic II, but discovered too late that all the upgrade paths on the other models were blocked off from the C-2. Macs were dead to me thereafter.
I reluctantly bought a refurbed Apple phone when I needed an application, but when the phone got terminal battery swelling, I bought a Samsung. (And keep that phone off except when I really need the app, or every few weeks when I check the battery charge.)
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We only buy old apple, too. Dan uses them for…. something. But his attempt to get me to use one was short lived.
Anyway, yeah, after a while you can’t update, which for us is a reason not to use it.
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I’m with kamas716 on this. I HATE the Mac interface. I’ve hated it since the Lisa which I did a Human factors test on at DEC in 1984. One thing the Human factors folks discovered was that programmers want something VERY different from neophytes (duhhh!!!). Unfortunately, almost all GUI have played to the least common denominator (and not even done that well). I’ve used various iterations of Windows, Mac, X10, X11/Motif. I’ve either gotten used to them or inured to them, I actually had used Visual Studio Code and kind of liked it for C++, C and Python coding. Phone UI’s also drive me nuts. I use and can cope with Android, Apple just makes me insane as everything on it seems to be a false cognate for things on Android. I often wonder if that is intentional.
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I don’t question for a moment that you have trouble with Macs. I do question that it’s not being visual, as such; and my reason for that is that I am profoundly nonvisual (I’ve had to explain to several people that I didn’t notice the emoji in their message, because I hardly ever understand emojis and my brain just tunes them out as noise), but I love Macs and have as little as possible to do with any other OS I’ve encountered. If being nonvisual by itself made Macs unusable I don’t think I could use them. So I think it most likely that some other brain oddity is involved, either by itself or in synergy with being nonvisual.
I don’t think it’s a question of “adapted to it.” I had struggled to use DOS for a class I was taking, and it completely drove me round the bend, to the point where I swore never to use a word processor again. Then I encountered the early Mac OS and took to it instantly. Now I dislike having the Mac OS made more like the OS for iPhones . . .
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I agree with William H. Stoddard. I’m not visual at all, and the Mac works great. You can toggle view options. I choose View “as list.” Most options can be modified on Mac. The search function is very handy, too.
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I just stare at the initial screen. It might do all these things, okay, but I never get past the initial screen. And if I bring an app up I can’t figure out how to get out of it again.
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(Lecture follows, feel free to ignore, it’s a family habit to explain things in depth.)
You could tell someone what you want it to look like, and let them go through the trauma of dealing with the initial screen. The Mac laptop layout is customizable. In the Settings menu, the sub-menu “desktop & doc” would likely solve many of your problems. The settings menu and its sub-menus have search fields.
The dock is configurable. I set it to always show, when I’m not in an app, set to the lower border of the screen. In the doc, the currently open items are displayed, with a little dot beneath them to show that they are open. I can close them by holding the cursor on them, then choosing the option “quit”. You may also choose to keep or remove an open item in the dock. Some people like to have all their apps shown in the dock, others only want a few items in that space.
In the dock, the leftmost icon (or top, depending on dock display choice) is the finder pane. In that pane, you will find all your apps and documents. You may display them as icons, but I prefer to toggle the “list” display option. (Finder; view; as list.)
If you’re in an app on the Mac desktop, the name of the app will be in bold at the upper left corner. Clicking on that name will bring up an app menu. At the bottom of that menu is the option to quit.
In dire straits, the apple symbol in the upper left corner gives the “force quit” option, which will force an application to quit.
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Right! There’s a particular way that Apple expects you to do things, and it’s NOT the way my brain wants to do them.
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I usually see it advertised as “intuitive” design.
Which means there’s no freakin’ logic involved to where they put stuff, and if someone doesn’t have the “intuitive” logic, you can’t reason it out.
While with Windows the only time I can’t find stuff by applying old school filing logic is when they “made it more intuitive”, IE, Mac-ified it.
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Hmmm.
“Intuitive Design” = “You spent a crap-ton of extra money to feel this smug.”
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MS-WIN-BLOWS seems to be built around counter-intuitive design — everything is in the worst possible place.
Or when they decided to ‘upgrade’ the Linux Gnome desktop. I upgraded to KDE for quite a while.
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How are you with finding things in filing cabinets?
That seems to be the dividing factor. If your eyes glaze at that, you should go to a Mac.
If you are good at finding things organized by category and sub category, you will like windows.
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[insert Hitchhikers Guide rant about filed away notices here]
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I keep things on my Mac organized that way; I have eleven primary folders, most of which have subfolders and often subsubfolders. I’m very comfortable with folder structures. However, there was a time when, for one of my clients who had a lot of work to give me, I needed to use a special program that was designed to work with the Windows version of a TeX editing program (and not the Mac version). Rather than clutter up my space with an additional computer, I bought a Windows emulator for my Mac, installed it, and ran Windows and the Windows programs on my Mac. I learned where the documents I had to edit were on the Windows desktop, but it never did make sense to me otherwise, and when that specific assignment went away, I uninstalled the Windows emulator with a sense of great relief.
I totally don’t deny that there are some people who find the Mac OS incomprehensible; I find the Windows interface baffling, after all. I’m just saying that I keep seeing suggestions as to what accounts for the difference advanced confidently, which attribute it to traits and preferences that I myself have—but I love Macs and have since I first encountered them, and I have those same traits and preferences. I don’t have an explanation to offer. I’m just saying that when you go from “I don’t like Macs because of X” or “I don’t like Windows because of Y” to “people who have X/Y will prefer Windows/Mac,” it often goes directly counter to my personal experience—so I regard those statements as speculations rather than inductive generalizations. I have not myself encountered enough users with different preferences to venture any such generalization for myself. I’m at the stage Didactylos summed up as “Things just happen. What the hell.”
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The Window interface somewhere around… Windows 7, started looking identical to the Mac interface of 7 to 10 years before Windows 7 came out.
That’s when I switched to Windows (…for more reasons than just that), because that was the interface and structure I was familiar with, and Mac was doing… new, bizarre and unpleasant things with their interface, that I didn’t want to adapt to.
I don’t know if I could get into a Mac these days.
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Hmmm…
Back in the Army, I was often tasked with search and rescue of mis-filed stuff. As an attempt at “slam”, a Drill Sergeant tasked me to “Fix all seven of these filing cabinets” overnight. Took me about 3 hours. They were grudgingly appreciative of the system I set up.
Worked with MS stuff professionally for 25+ years.
OK. I will buy that theory of yours. (grin)
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<= got the same kind of jobs. :D
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Microsoft design = “You spent a crap-ton less to be this frustrated”.
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Except most people aren’t frustrated, until the geniuses try to import the “intuitive” designs from Apple.
There’s a reason that Microsoft has such a huge market share unless you include phones.
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(grin) Anyone frustrated by Microsoft probably laughed at my quip.
I am in the business. Lots of folks get frustrated by Microsoft. For example “What the F did they do to this menu/toolbar/ribbon? I just figured out the last version! WAAAAAUUGHHH!!!”
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Or they “streamline” the interface.
The same way my kids clean their room, by picking it all up and dumping it in a box….
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One of the biggest reasons I refuse to “upgrade” to windows 11?
The taskbar.
They JUST made it so you can have something besides icons.
You still can’t have it docked to the side, which means my standard setup of docked to the left, extended so I can actually see what is open in each program– really handy when you’re doing work with multiple instances in the same program– is impossible.
So something as basic as “sorting files” becomes horribly difficult.
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The Reader is never migrating to Win 11. Microsoft has succumbed to the urge to use the OS to advertise to you and it can’t be turned off except in the Enterprise version (and who can afford 500 licenses). The machines in the Casa Reader are slowly being migrated to Linux over the next year.
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I have Win11, I am not seeing that at all. OTOH I rarely use the left side swipe window, except very occasionally for weather. Rarely use Edge (I use FireFox with a whole lot of addin’s to stop phishing and ads through FireFox addins.) I’ll use Edge or Chrome for Fox Nation and Paramount+ because the FireFox addins aren’t liked by either.
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I have a 2010 MacMini, running El Capitan. I am now in the process of learning Linux Mint because I refuse to pay Apple for a new machine, and I can’t upgrade this one beyond High Sierra or whatever it is, even if I wanted to. It has been a good run, but …
Son arranged to have a cute Thermaltake Core VI box custom-built to suit my requirements (I am not a gamer), and has left it to me to install the distro of my choice, with bail-out help when I get stuck. It has been a definitely intense mental exercise which will continue for a good while I suspect. But the speed difference alone is astonishing, and I am slowly researching and installing software that will handle my most-used application needs. I suspect I will have migrated to the new machine well before my faithful MacMini gives up the ghost.
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I was using various Unices at work (HP-UX and Sun), and once Win 7 went end of life, I switched to an old-school Linux OS. I use it as a cross between GUI and text; the file-display gets most of the usage, though I have a few icons on the desktop for applications I use frequently.
I used Win 7 and mostly liked it (though not the MS update system–dialup and updates didn’t play well, so I had to use the library and download everything. That and the occasional flaky upgrade. AskWoody was a godsend for that.)
I have a Windows API (Wine insists that it is not an emulator. Suture self.) but haven’t used it lately. One of these days, I need to. Eventually.
Personal preference for me. I didn’t like the single-button mouse for the Mac, and Win 10 made me twitchy, so I’ll sit out the religious debate.
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Me too.
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If there was an alternative besides Apple/Mac (vomit) or Linux (the computer equivalent of driving a “project car” that’s always in need of some nonstandard part or other), I’d ditch Windows, too.
Windows 11 is pretty slick. An improvement over its precursors in looks and usability in most ways. However…
It saves everything to OneDrive by default, and then tries to upsell you on increased storage — and you have to hunt for the setting that turns it off, and then once you do, accessing the Documents folder doesn’t work in the normal Windows way afterwards.
And they’ve integrated what they call an “experience” package that spies on you and populates a display in your Start menu with “things you’ll enjoy” (what I enjoy is not being spied on and constantly nagged by advertising on my own home machine, thank you very much) and is not easy to turn off. And I’m under no illusions that turning the “helpful” sidebar off stops any of the spying.
I swear, the entire tech industry is run by psychopaths.
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At this point the Reader has settled on the project car. Ubuntu appears to have the fewest number of non standard parts requiring chasing down. Note that fewest is not zero and the Reader has no expectation that it ever will be zero.
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Yeah. I can’t deal with Linux. Dan enjoys it.
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^^This^^ Agree. 100% Plus I’d have to support hubby. Nope. Not ever.
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I use Windows for work and it’s highly annoying that clicking Save on any program requires an extra step to “save on my computer.” Can’t set that as default, and it is NEEDED because a large part of my job is sharing specific files with other organizations, which means I need to have them on the server to begin with, not some nebulous cloud location that is impossible to locate once you’ve closed the program you created it with.
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I’ve turned of saving to OneDrive immediately. When asked why. My response was “I’m saving jack shit online. Go away.” (Same with online Quicken version. No. Not happening.)
Not sure what you are saying about “experience package”. Haven’t seen that. When setting up told OS to “share nothing”. I do not report problems. Also, not using MS products other than the OS.
I use OpenOffice (rarely, have little need), Calibre, KeePass2, Epubor, Firefox, and Quicken (would switch to openware for that except I’d have to move hubby too, sigh. I’ll think about it some more.) Hubby uses the hobby version of Photoshop. We use TurboTax.
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(I don’t actually foam at the mouth when I’m told a new interface is clean and streamlined, but I may contemplate homicide.)
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Yes. The reason is that the computers it runs on are much cheaper than Macs. Corporations overwhelmingly favor saving money, but the people making those decisions don’t consult the people who actually use the computers. And individual users may well decide to go for what they can fit into their budgets. None of that is evidence of Windows machines being better (or worse).
Personally, even when my finances were strained, I always paid the extra cost for Apple, both because their operating systems are vastly easier to use for me (I have experience with Windows, both from when I had an emulator on my Mac Mini, and from when I worked for a corporation that put Windows machines on everyone’s desks, and it has always been painful to use), and because their help number gets me in touch with people who can actually help, though that’s very much a secondary point. I’ll use a Windows system if I must, for economic reasons, but a Mac is vastly easier for me.
And as I’ve said a couple of times before, this is not a matter of being visual, because I’m one of the least visual people I’ve ever encountered.
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Yes. The reason is that the computers it runs on are much cheaper than Macs.
:looks at the Steam computer survey:
:laughs in his face:
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For those not familiar, STEAM is a game distribution platform. A very popular one, for both big publishers and indy.
Very much going to be folks who choose their own hardware.
They have monthly “surveys” where they ask if they can scan your computer to gather information on what systems gamers use.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Linux variations outnumber Mac variations.
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I was originally going to say that if you’re going to resort to arguments from authority, combined with personal attacks, then there is no point in our discussing this. Now that you have provided this information, I can offer at least brief substantive replies (they must be brief, because what’s at your link is far too visual to make sense to me): (a) People who buy computers for gaming are a specialized market, if (admittedly) a rather large one, and their priorities are not mine, nor are they those of people in general who use computers for other things; (b) people who are paying money for their own purposes may be just as ready to pinch pennies as corporate purchasing departments; (c) the argument that a lot of people favor other systems over Mac doesn’t seem to be on point when addressed to me, since I started out by saying that the reason a lot of people use systems other than Macs is so and so, which already grants the point you seem to be advancing, and I don’t see why you are trying to refute something I never said; (d) the fact that something sells a lot is not, by itself, evidence of its being good (nor of its being bad, either), because popularity and quality are two different dimensions.
In any case, I’m not arguing about which system is better, or worse; as an old joke says, that’s like arguing about religion. I stipulate that it’s a question of taste. I’m just questioning some of the proposed reasons for people to have one taste rather than another, because they don’t seem to fit my personal experience.
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I was originally going to say that if you’re going to resort to arguments from authority, combined with personal attacks, then there is no point in our discussing this.
Ah, yes, because I’m supposed to be making arguments based off YOUR authority, because you can’t be bothered to not be ignorant about a not at all obscure source.
Thank you for making it clear that you’re throwing a fit; I will quit wasting my time.
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Guys, this is a religious war for a reason.
Some people just find Mac easier. Some people find Microsoft easier. it’s just the way it is. I’d hate to be forced into Mac. i might start writing with a quill and making someone type it in.
Other people feel differently.
It was supposed to illustrate how different we are. Proven.
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Yeah, pretty much nobody games on Macs, which means developers don’t prioritize Mac dev, also graphics boards and such, and that means bleeding edge buy-new-hardware-often gamers stay on Windows, and they fight about who makes the best processors and graphics cards.
There’s a lot of video editing done on Macs, though really high end work uses whatever as the main compute heavy lifting is offboard. Rendering is moreso, offboard. A fair amount of “creatives” use Macs for artsy stuff, so ad agencies and such still go more Mac than Windows.
Where I work it’s more numbers and database queries and spreadsheets, and we are agnostic, about half and half. Having a (shrinking, thank goodness) support hat, I help folks resolve mostly MS Office365 problems on both. From that perspective I think they are pretty close.
Like 9mm v 45ACP it all really boils down to personal preference. Sarah’s UI preference trumps any argument.
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Yeah, pretty much nobody games on Macs, which means developers don’t prioritize Mac dev, also graphics boards and such, and that means bleeding edge buy-new-hardware-often gamers stay on Windows, and they fight about who makes the best processors and graphics cards.
Plus, Windows has the same advantage as Android does for phones– it can run on almost anything, and anybody can design programs for it.
I remember 20 years ago the story was that EVERYONE used Mac for video stuff.
And… it just keeps losing market, because when there’s a demand, other folks move in to fill it, and the stuff that doesn’t all have to come from one supply line has an advantage.
I’m all for folks using what works for them, I have no tolerance for “the reason everybody doesn’t agree with me is because they’re not thinking” type arguments.
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The reason Microshaft has such a huge market share is because Billzebub ripped off CP/M-86 in 1981 and sold it to IBM as ‘PC-DOS 1.0’. Then IBM pushed their ‘PC’ with the weight of a multi-billion-dollar company that corporate accountants were all familiar with. They knew nothing about computers, but “It’s IBM, must be good.” Complaints from the folks actually working with the things were ignored.
Microshaft continued the tradition of stealing other people’s software for decades.
And before anybody repeats the lie about Steve Jobs stealing the Mac interface from Xerox: PARC was monkeying with an experimental graphical interface. Jobs saw the future, and licensed the rights in exchange for a block of Apple stock, then Apple put in years of work to build a useable graphical OS. Not their fault Xerox sold the stock before the price shot up to the stratosphere.
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Sure, it’s all theft. And nothing has changed in 40 years. Definitely nothing like massive changes in technology, and let’s ignore entire generations trained on Apple computers who then switched over to PCs. (That really was a brilliant marketing move by Apple, they just flubbed the carry through.)
And that’s why IBM is a household name, synonymous with computers!
Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.
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I was there. I saw it all happen. There were much better computers available in the mid-1980’s but they weren’t IBM so the corporate purchasing managers wouldn’t even look at them and at the time, almost all the money was in selling computers to businesses. Very few people saw any need to spend $2,500 (equivalent to $6,000 today) for a computer they had no use for at home.
So, to hordes of office workers, IBM was synonymous with ‘computer’. When people finally started buying home computers, what did they do? They bought what they were familiar with. People not familiar with computers asked those who were and got the same recommendation.
Most of Microshaft’s ‘innovations’ were stolen. Have you ever heard of Stacker? In the early 1990’s, people were running out of space on their hard drives, and those were expensive. Like, $300 for a 60 megabyte drive.
A company called Stacker introduced a program (also called Stacker) that compressed data before it was written to the drive, and uncompressed it when read. Depending on the data’s characteristics, it could store up to twice as much on the same hard drive.
When Microshaft ‘upgraded’ MS-DOS to 6.22 it had a feature called ‘DriveSpace’ which compressed data when writing to the drive, and uncompressed it when reading.
IT WAS STACKER.
They outright stole it. Byte-by-byte comparison of the BIN and EXE files proved that. Stacker sued, of course, but Microshaft dragged the case out for 8 years until Stacker went bankrupt.
They did the same to Apple. Apple granted them a limited license to use certain aspects of the Mac interface in developing a Mac version of MS-OFFICE — and for no other purpose. Microshaft stole Apple’s code and used it to make a cheap rip-off of MacOS, which they called Windows.
They even tried to trademark the word ‘window’.
Microshaft – greedy, dishonest and corrupt from the very beginning.
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You’ve completely ignored the Apple computers in schools, and all the other market changes, based on the conclusion you already have.
I see no reason to try to keep trying to reason you out of what you ddn’t reason into.
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Aye, I recall a review of a “clone” by this company called Compaq. The reviewer said he felt it was better than the actual IBM.
Oh, the reviewer? Some feller name of Pournelle.
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Which was a big part of why the PC won: you could clone it, upgrade it, etc. which Apple absolutely refused to allow,
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Actually, Apple licensed a number of companies to produce Mac PowerPC clones: Motorola, UMAX, Power Computing and others. Rather than expanding the Mac’s market share, they mostly cut into Apple’s sales so Apple ended the programs. I’ve still got a couple of PowerBase Mac clones sitting in a box.
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“Apple Licensed”.
Microsoft didn’t create hardware, until last couple of decades. Microsoft provided specs. Heck Microsoft didn’t even create a lot of the auxiliary hardware drivers. Drivers just had to conform to how Windows worked. Even my Microsoft Surface has drivers for internals that aren’t Microsoft (would not be surprised that someone else made/developed the Surface and it is sold under Microsofts name). Unix OS varieties do exactly the same. Just have to work harder to put Unix OS systems together. Microsoft doesn’t care how many hardware platforms out there that sell Microsoft OS and software.
No kidding. Never saw that coming. /sarcasm-off.
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College computer science lab (’86 – ’80) was Apple Macs, all the way. Those of us who had other at home went together and got the tool set that was being used in the class and made copies for everyone contributing to the cost, sharing it (hey it has been over 30 years). I had an Apple IIe. Had access to IBM through work desktop.
Had an Apple IIe because that was what was in the lab at the community college when I started the career change. Got all the software copies needed through the lab (for student use). Also Apple IIe was 1/3 the cost of the fancy new “IBM DOS” machines (at $2k, that is saying something). Didn’t make the jump from Apple IIe to the Mac, not just because of the cost, or the OS, but when Apple went to Mac, they abandoned the Apple IIe. No transition paths, period. No ability for 3rd party to jump in either.
That is my perception of difference with Windows to Apple. I don’t have to buy hardware from Microsoft, or IBM. I can modify hardware, even laptops, or tablets, with 3rd party hardware. May not want to (especially tablets) but I can. Heck I don’t have to buy Windows apps through Microsoft. Microsoft wants me to go through their app store, but I don’t have to. (I currently have a MS Surface tablet. Because it had the physical features I wanted in a tablet. Replaced my old small laptop, and Samsung 8″ tablets, whose not-replaceable-batteries (might have been 3rd party options) were failing. Less cost than replacing both with alternatives, could afford it, wanted it. Not sorry. It is 6 years old.)
As far as hardware lasting? We keep hardware for minimum 6 years, including laptops. Usually upgrading because can’t upgrade for an app feature we needed/wanted (mostly wanted). That has changed. Current hardware will die before getting replaced. Then would rotate out mom’s current machine. However now we aren’t getting high end, high feature software. This means as mom’s hardware has finally failed, we’ve ran out of old working machines to rotate in. Now instead of new PC hardware, what I buy are drives (mostly digital photo storage. Lots of digital photo storage.)
Am I happy with what MS has pulled with Windows 11? For me? Whatever. For hubby, who I have to deal with when they change something not-intuitive-to-him? OMG. Rolls eyes. Is there anyone I can shoot? I mean, come on, already. My response to “why did they change this?” Is: “SIIK” (JIC short for “S* if I know”) “I didn’t write it!”
As far as Linux? Sorry. Don’t want to work that hard.
I won’t debate which is better, Windows, Apple, or Linux. I will just state what works for me and mine. This includes Android VS Apple. We have Android. Would have considered Windows OS phone, but the options just aren’t there.
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Sounds right to me.
As far as Linux? Sorry. Don’t want to work that hard.
My go-to answer when someone suggests Linux is that I already have a religion and don’t want another hobby. :D
The thing that is least obnoxious to deal with has a HUGE advantage.
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The Reader is fortunate that in retirement he has time to make Linux a hobby. He finds it a useful tool.
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I’m retired too. I might have gotten burned out when I had to deal with Xenix, 25 – 30 years ago (Linux is worlds above Xenix, know that. Not the point.) Learned to hate it. Also, not one to want to deal with the hardware or OS if at all possible. Can do it. (whining) Just don’t want to. Preferred writing software. Period. I am even out of the last. Which when caught the bug, never figured I’d never want, I am a little surprised. Not the vehement “I’ll never touch a computer, ever!” of ’75 after being forced into a computer class (didn’t until ’83). Haven’t coded now in 8 years, after 30+ year career. Don’t miss it. I have other hobbies I can pick back up, that I dropped when I started coding. Not that I have. But I could. Should but none get me off my tush, which is what I really need to do.
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Good on you! I support that almost as much as I support folks whose hobby is making gaming mods, even for games that I don’t play– but doesn’t mean I’m going to take it up!
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Stealing!!!!!
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Microsoft would have died in the 90s if the not so bright lights running DEC had listened to their VMS software architects and ported VMS to the Intel architecture. Instead DEC’s management stuck their heads in the sand and Bill Gates hired the entire VMS team, who ported VMS to Intel processors from the knowledge in their head and stuck a Windows graphical interface on it. Today known as Win NT and then Win 2000.
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The prior company owns the physical code. They do not own what the engineers know how to do. Even if the new employer gets something that does something close, it is not the same code. Oh. Companies will extort and scare engineers with anti compete laws. If the new company has as deep of pockets the old company is SOL legally.
My attitude was, since I wasn’t the one who jumped companies, companies left me, if you didn’t want me using my knowledge for someone else, you should have kept me. Not that either the company or I had a choice. Or what the prior company had code wise, had anything to do with the next company did. Still applied techniques I learned while at prior companies. Kind of how experience works.
The whole anti compete thing is kind of rant of mine.
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Er, MSDOS wasn’t that closely related to CP/M (had to use both a bit). My understanding is that when IBM was shopping for systems, the CP/M guy was out doing something fun, and blew off the meeting. Gates showed up with his product. (That might have been bought/somewhat underhandedly acquired. I don’t recall that detail, but it wasn’t CP/M.)
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There once was a company called Seattle Microcomputer.
They were hard at work developing a multitasking, multiuser, protected-memory OS for the 8086. Along the way, they had a need for a brain-dead bootstrap program to load their prototype OS from disk, do some prep work, start it running and then die. They hacked up a copy of CP/M-86 to do that, then went back to work on their real project.
Meanwhile, IBM was nearly ready to introduce their brand-new ‘PC’. All they lacked was an OS. They contacted Gary Kildall of CP/M but he wanted a lot of money and had some other conditions they didn’t like.
Enter Gates, wanting less money and hardly any conditions. IBM signed the deal. One problem: Gates didn’t have an OS. Nada. A practice that came to be called ‘vaporware’ in a few years.
So, Billzebub used IBM’s money to take control of Seattle Microcomputer, made them stop work on their OS and hack on that copy of CP/M-86 some more. That is what was eventually delivered to IBM as ‘PC-DOS 1.0’, bugs and all.
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So Bill bought a company that had hacked “stolen” CP/M. Does that make Bill a thief or a fence? Asking for a friend.
And yeah, my opinion of him is somewhere in the negative Really_Large_Numbers… Even worse with his “charitable” work.
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Seattle Microcomputer had bought several copies of CP/M-86 and the hack-job was intended for their internal use only, so not nefarious. Taking it and selling it to IBM, that was despicable.
Everything about the IBM Piece of Crap was wrong. Wrong CPU, wrong architecture, wrong software. A Motorola 68000 and Microware’s OS-9/68K would have been a much better system. I did a lot of work with the original OS-9 on the 6809-based Radio Shack Color Computer and it was really impressive. I even wrote a better floppy disk device driver, as well as a bunch of utility programs. Good times.
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At least on a Mac (or in Linux) everything you work on goes in your home directory. If all else fails, you can search for anything modified today.
MS-WIN-BLOWS hides your stuff. It even hides the file system structure from you. Things you work on can be put in different places depending on which program they ‘belong’ to and which user installed it. ‘Library’ is actually scattered across 4 or 5 different directories, most of which are nowhere near your home directory and some of which you don’t have permission to access. The program you were using has different permissions than you do.
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At my house, the ‘things that go bump in the night’ are cats.
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Microsoft also hides files on Mac. Most stuff does get put in expected places, but go try and find an autosave file sometime.
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I’m having to make sure that my kids know basic file management techniques, because Google Docs (which their school uses) is the same kind of “just trust us to save your files somewhere” that most OS groups have been moving to.
Nope. YOU the user gets to designate how things are set up.
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“You can access it from anywhere any computer.”
Correction. “
YouAnyone can access it from anywhere any computer.”“But it is password protected!”
Glare. “And?”
Oh. The teacher’s glare when son was saving his work to an external drive. Also could be accessed from any computer, including home. But not available to the teacher to check. And where is the signed document allowing that before it is turned in printed? Shut up the teacher. Not helped when she asked what I did for a living. I think I’ve already mentioned “Nothing gets saved to the cloud. Nothing. Not happening.”
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I’ve used CP/M Sinclair, DOS, IBM, DEC, Commodore, Mac, Windows, & various Linuxes.
The most frustrating was the early Macs. They would frequently tell you to use an option that was greyed out so it couldn’t be used and you couldn’t get behind the GUI to find out why.
When they switched to a form of BSD underneath the GUI this apparently got a lot better, but by that time I was running Linux. Although I could use Windows well enough, I never liked Gates’ lack of ethics (invite an innovator to talk about licensing, stiff them, steal their tech, build their own version, get sued, drag it out until the innovator is out of business and settle the suit for far less than they profited) so as soon as Linux could handle 90% of what I needed to do I switched over.
Unfortunately I still have to keep a version around used once a year for tax filing.
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And they come up with nifty terms, such as Oppositional Defiance Disorder.
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They ain’t seen Oppositional Defiance Adaptation yet. They ain’t gonna like it.
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Oh? Is that the label under that masking tape on my chest?
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America is oppositional defiant, as a rule. It’s not a disorder. It’s why we survived.
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In America, we live to rebel.
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I aim to misbehave.
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“Oppositional Defiant Disposition”
(grin)
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Oppositional Defiance is not a disorder, it is a virtue.
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I got an email from the Amazon AI today. (Pretty sure it was a bot; got copies in both English and “br”, I assume for Brazilian dialect.) It seems my review of [something] violated some unspecified community standard. [With the usual lack of reference as to what I said that caused the AI to clutch its pearls.] As best as I can recall, the only reviews I’ve done have been books, and I probably said something about Andrew Spurgle getting what he richly deserved. So, the AI granted me the mark of shame.
I’ll wear it proudly. Strike One!
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They don’t know from Oppositional Defiance. When they see the muzzle flashes, then they’ll know.
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There is no shortage of people convinced they can create the Perfect World. They just have to eliminate all those imperfect people who don’t fit in it.
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If they see the flashes you’re too close
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Too close? That is when you see your own muzzle flash reflected in your opponent’s eyes.
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It was infuriating hearing (I didn’t see it because I NEVER watch the new Pravda, MSDNC) that MSDNC and CNN refused to show Trumps winning speech from Iowa. In their most serious tones they said “we need to protect you from what bad man is saying, because he tells lies, so trust us to protect you by not letting you hear him.” My blood boils. If Civil War 2 starts (I know I know it will be bad and should be avoided … but), the first mission will be Kill all the mainstream media. That clip from the new upcoming Civil War movie is wrong, he wouldn’t ask them “what kind of Americans are you?” because the moment he found out they were journalists, he’d just kill them.
The journalists are the primary ones responsible for all this censorious BS and the mess we’re in because of it, God damn them to hell.
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Well, CCN waited until he started smacking Joe over the border and talked over him and turned down the sound. But no one hates the media enough. No matter how much you think you do, it is short of the hate they deserve.
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It’s impossible to hate the media enough.
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I don’t hate the media, only the two-legged liars using it. They maliciously, and with evil intent (but I repeat myself), cause me extra work to find out what the truth is.
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Right. That’s what I meant. The left-industrial information complex.
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Presstitutes
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this
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An ideology that needs to be protected from hearing dissent doesn’t deserve to survive.
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Hear!!! Hear!!!. And one that tries to take rivals off the ballot is similarly anathema and when they are one in the same…
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You are far too kind
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Indeed – when the new ACW goes kinetic, the mainstream journos with a national reputation will be in deep trouble. They might have to do their stand-ups on location with body guards at the ready. (They probably already have the bodyguards in places like San Francisco and the bad parts of other major cities.) I don’t think they have even begun to realize how much they are hated, once outside of their establishment media bubble, or how deeply they are despised for serving basically as Dem Party propagandists.
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There’s been a couple of news stories where reporters forgot to bring security, showed up in liberal areas and got mugged for their cameras.
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That’s an interesting point. I wonder if any leftwing journalist or politician has any idea of how much they are despised outside of their carefully curated sycophantic circles.
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My favorite short story “What I Saw at the Coup” deals with this very well. The media gets told in no uncertain terms that if they lie, they die, and reporters start dropping to prove it. By the end even MSNBC is well behaved.
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As long as they are setting the rules as “bercasue it is -good- for the world”,
A single 2kT nuke on Davros lair, er their hotel, and the World Is A Better Place.
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Well, apparently their attempt to use the NYSE to set up “Natural Asset Corporations” got shot down.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/01/17/rule-proposal-critics-warned-could-harm-energy-security-rescinded-amid-mounting-scrutiny-1428603
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Good. Though I’m still concerned about what the next attempt will look like.
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The DOJ has released a report on the Uvalde school shooting response.
Spoiler warning: the local LE made some mistakes…
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Getting sick of having my new comments added as replies to the last comment I replied to.
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Please. I only get one birthday wish…
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They want people to live in stacked boxes within “walking distance” of everything. They don’t realize that this would drive me insane. My mind gets itchy when I am forced to be around to many people for to long. But, they refuse to acknowledge that not everybody has the same social, psychological, and physical needs.
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I’m not crazy about the idea of a Japanese sleeping microcube to live out of, or in. Or even hot bunking ala Navy subs.
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The Fifth Element is not supposed to be a how to manual
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It seems authoritarians really love using dystopian fiction as an instruction manual.
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They really do. So do some of the tech guys. Hint: emulating the Cybermen or HAL9000 ain’t gonna end well!
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Dave, please stop.
Would you like me to sing a song?
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An almost universal failing of tech people in my experience is “If I CAN do it, I SHOULD do it, never mind what those pesky users (pronounced lusers) want.”
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Boron?
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Considering the type of people we’re talking about, I think it would be more appropriate to replace the B with an M.
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B? M? Well, yeah, it’s a lot of BM…
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I understand that feeling. I’m also dealing with the fact that I should not be driving much longer. This means that I need to live in a higher density environment. How dense? Well, high rises appear to have too many people with too few commercial resources. Suburbia has much fewer people but little to no resources. My trips to Ukraine and Thailand indicate to me that 4 to 6 story buildings with commercial offerings on the ground floor, or the ground floor + a floor up or down seem to be close to optimal. Almost everything I need is within 4 blocks, which is easy walking distance. I will also say that smaller cities, under 500K, are far more appealing than larger cities.
I also want to point out that stick built apartment complexes that are typical here in the US are truly horrible places to live. Buildings I have seen elsewhere are built with thick concrete walls & floors with better windows, which provide much better sound and odor isolation.
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I live in Garland, TX. They have built apartments like that in our downtown (a few stories tall with retail on the first floor). You also see it near many of the other stations for the local light rail system. You need to take a closer look at suburbs in many of the growing areas of the USA.
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Sounds like The Domain here in Austin. Still in a BIG city and horrendously expensive. Social Security will only go so far.
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We keep telling him that. Don’t bother. He’s convinced it’s better abroad.
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LOL. LOLOLOL. Yeah, the “substantial” buildings elsewhere. HAVE YOU EVER lived in them for any time? They start collapsing the year they’re built. not even a joke. And that’s in EUROPE.
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Back in the 1990s, DadRed went to Belarus and Ukraine for Reasons. He observed workmen in Belarus pouring cement for a new building (walls) when it was below freezing. Some new buildings had already begun cracking and spalling after less than a year. Ukraine was a little better, at least where he was, but the buildings were also shorter, so there was less stress on the structure.
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Portugal is better, but everything leaks, and most modern buildings crumble.
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Gee, and the building I have seen are several decades old. I guess they just don’t build them like they used to.
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Post-Soviet Belarus … had/has some problems.
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That is so true. Belarus is not of any interest to me as a place to move. Pre-war Ukraine was interesting. Currently Thailand is the most likely place. I do not care much for the new construction of high rise condos, they are very shiny and fancy, but aren’t really the design I want.
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Oh. You’re going to a place where you visually stick out. Okay.
You know what? If you’re determined to commit suicide, it’s none of our business.
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Better that than the slow death of a homeless old man living on the street.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I find it odd someone who has the money to travel, as I can’t, doesn’t have the money to find a small walkable town — not where we live, but nearby there’s a walkable one — and move there.
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You really don’t have any analytical skills, do you? Anyplace in America outside of a few huge and very expensive cities will require me to drive. That is not going to work.
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This just tells me you really haven’t bothered to look at any medium sized towns.
Right now I have friends who only drive to see me. Everything from food to medical to vet is in their neighborhood and accessible on foot.
I don’t understand how your ignorance means I have no analytical skills. I think you’re just determined to commit suicide or convinced that abroad is somehow cool. that’s fine.
Waves.
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Blink. Heck Eugene has a couple of neighborhoods that they are talking about. Apartments on top. Small coffee and retail shops below. Another apartment complex (brand new) nearby. Both near Costco, Winco, Petsmart, and coffee shop, all within walking distance. Major LTD county bus route. Don’t know cost of apartments over shops. New apartments are $2250/month for 2 bedroom. Alternatively there are the new “Opportunity” small condo options. $5000 to buy in. Ability for “work in kind” for facility fees. Other than that, don’t know how it works. Brand new build. Brand new concept. Not government. Could walk to Albertsons or Fred Meyer (local Krogers). Definitely can walk to Walgreens complex, and Dutch Bros Coffee Kiosk. Otherwise transportation, again on major LTD county bus line. Getting somewhere on LTD isn’t for me, but grandma did it. Takes patience and time. LTD has gotten better since she died in ’87. Oregon does not tax Social Security.
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The scariest building-related thing I ever saw was in Northern Thailand. A building was under construction. They were doing a continuous concrete pour for structural risers. By bucket brigade up the bamboo scaffolding. At street level, the columns were already spalling. 😱
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It’s just the modern version of the feudal village. Why should you peasants ever have to leave the village? Everything you need is there. Besides, that way you can learn your trade and work like your father, and grandfather, and nothing will ever change and it will be wonderful. Wonderful!
I don’t know if it’s their quirk or I’m projecting. Lord, I hope it’s their quirk?
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Or like an antebellum southern plantation:
A Southern farm is the beau ideal of Communism; it is a joint concern, in which the slave consumes more than the master, of the coarse products, and is far happier, because although the concern may fail, he is always sure of a support; he is only transferred to another master to participate in the profits of another concern; he marries when he pleases, because he knows he will have to work no more with a family than without one, and whether he live or die, that family will he taken care of; he exhibits all the pride of ownership, despises a partner in a smaller concern, “a poor man’s negro,” boasts of “our crops, horses, fields and cattle;”, and is as happy as a human being can be.
George Fitzhugh, Sociology for the South: or, The failure of free society (1854)
google books:
https://books.google.com/books/about/Sociology_for_the_South.html?id=HjJLAAAAYAAJ
21st century version: “You will own nothing* and be happy”
not even yourself
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Tell that “happy” crap to Harriet Tubman!
Proposed $20 featuring Harriet Tubman, holding a revolver and reaching out with outstretched hand:
I -love- that imagery. Just -love- it
She freed herself. Then she -went back- south to free others. -That- is one bad-ass American.
The main article:
thefederalistpapers.org/us/harriet-tubman-republican-gun-owner-outlaw-badass/
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Given the date, that was an author trying to rationalize slavery for “ignorant,” Northerners. Today, it would be called, “pro-slavery propaganda.”
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The article I cited is not pro slavery. A description of Tubman’s efforts to free people can hardly be described as “pro slavery propaganda”.
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I was referring to the 1854, “happy slaves,” article deep lurker quoted.
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“And furniture? Don’t get me started. I like being comfortable most of all. I like not worrying that the crack I just heard was the very expensive table. You know what I mean.”
I have my grandmother’s mahogany set that she bought new in 1937. I still have the receipts. I love it because it was my grandmothers and because it is beautiful. It also terrifies me. Someone came over and hit a leg hard enough to crack it and I spent as much as a used DR set at the thrift store having it fixed. The good news was, it was free to me, so there’s that.
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We had one of those. It survived the adults, but when we had toddlers we had to put it in storage. And then 20 years later it was in bad shape. So we gave it to friends setting up a period B & B in a Victorian. It would have been fine if we never had kids, BUT you know? I like our kids. So, here we are. Now I buy decent-used. Sure, sometimes antique, but STURDY. Though we’re a family of adults these days I have hopes of puppies in the bask– I mean grandchildren. So. No fragile stuff.
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Personally, I like my furniture sturdy, my clothes good quality (so I don’t have to buy them so often) and with pockets, and my gadgets few and far between. Aesthetics are also a consideration; if something is ugly, no one’s going to convince me it’s a good buy.
Sadly, most furniture is both flimsy and ugly these days . . .
If someone tries to tell me that I can just rent everything, NO. I want to own it outright. I’ll take good care of it, I’ll make it last, but I want it to be MINE.
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Besides, renting always costs more than buying. The rental company has to buy the items and then rent them to you at a profit.
The same reason ‘home insurance’ for your appliances is a rip-off. The insurance company has to spend just as much money as you would, plus a profit. You’d be better off stuffing the insurance money under a mattress and replacing the appliances yourself.
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When Eric Swalwell farted on camera, it was the most intelligent thing heard from a Democrat all day.
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It’s useful, the insurance, if you just bought a house and have absolutely NO money while paying two mortgages. And you can usually get the seller to pay for it. BUT other than that, yeah.
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I noticed that Frigidaire (who has made the house’s kitchen appliances, plus a freezer, so far with great results) finally stopped offering me a service contract for the dishwasher. Considering it’s a 2014 model, they were awfully persistent.
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Anyone else noticed that WP now asks you to subscribe every time you post a comment? Happening to me on five or six different blogs.
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It goes through periods.
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Are you saying it gets WPMS? :-D
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dude…. duuuuuuude.
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Can’t be that. That would imply a cyclical nature and somewhere in the cycle it ought to rise to tolerable or better. But WP just seems to be getting worse and worse…
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After a certain number of attempts, it will stop asking. (I set the autosave for name and email, if that’s relevant.) The counter resets if you close the browser. My experience limited to the Firefox derived Pale Moon. Unfortunately the current version of PM crashes roughly daily, so I usually have to deal with the helpful screens every day or two. I use Firefox occasionally, but not enough to be familiar with its interactions with WordPress (delenda est).
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And now when I decline the subscription option, it says the post is “duplicate”. Ah WordPress, will you never stop entertaining us with horrible bugs?
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What I’ve been getting when trying to post through the phone. Grrrrrrrr.
If I could have figured out how to signin to WP on the phone and keep it signed in, I would have. (Roll eyes. Come on, if after 30+ years of writing software and supporting it, I can’t figure it out quickly, something is bad word or two wrong!)
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As it stands now i trust no one is a position of supposed “authority” more often than not it has shaken out that they are some kinda azzhat with a superiority complex.
So for me, everything i do is so that at some point i can just stop showing up for work and stop participating in their scam stop giving then 30% of my pay and flip them the bird, the day draws neigh!
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These days those in positions of authority and esteem got there by uncritically parroting Marx back at the Marxists in power. that’s it.
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forgot to say, looking first at the pic – I was thinking “gee, the A.I. got did pretty good. . . wait, hands right on left/left on right, and wtf did it do to that one face?”
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One of the faces looks like a dog. I didn’t fix. it was late….
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A.I. is on acid
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Artificial Intelligence…
A.I.
Acid. I.
Acid Wit?
Alas, no.
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The hands could be other people’s hands, I think?
I couldn’t find a similar pic on free stock sites, or I’d have used it.
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Top two, one is the elbow bent the wrong way for the hand, the other looks to have two thumbs, but hey, A.I. hands. they all have quirks
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The face really bothered me, so I fixed it.
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OK, now I’ve seen the original face in the E-mail. That is creepy. You fixed it so it’s less creepy; now it just looks half-melted. Probably time to call it good enough.
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Yeah. i don’t want to spend the day futzing with it. And the back faces are always fuzzy any way.
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Hands and fingers are hard. Hard for humans, almost impossible for AI (ain’t intelligent) Each hand has a different perspective, fingers of different orientation, to look real is difficult. Faces are a lot easier.
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Back when it was still going, User Friendly had most of the characters with hands in pockets to avoid the need of him drawing the hands
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Speaking of the WEF, did you guys see Javier Milei’s speech he gave at Davos? Damn. :-D
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It’s being buried by the Lame Stream Media. We’re not allowed to hear anything they don’t want us to hear.
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‘Progressives’ suppress free speech because they don’t have the means to suppress free thought.
Yet.
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Elon Musk has the whole thing on his Twitter account, 24.3 million views.
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A philosophy that must silence others to survive is not a philosophy worth saving.
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The more they tighten their grip, the more the people slip through fingers.
Information wants to be free even more than the people do.
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Sri Lanka was buried by the mainstream media, because it proved the globalist green idiots have absolutely no idea what they are doing and couldn’t run a preschool effectively, let alone the entire world.
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I wouldn’t let them anywhere near a preschool.
Plus, are you implying that a preschool would be easy to run? Have you ever seen a little kid? Or a bunch of them together? I’d want really smart people keeping an eye on the little terrors.
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Does anyone know how Sri Lanka is doing now? Last I heard, China was waving debt-peonage (“aid”) in front of them.
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Still a mess but “improving”. Tourism is way up and China’s threats have been neutralized for the moment. The elites fear the people more than China for now
China’s internal issues are helping. The Chinese have just banned short selling one day after their plunge protection team poured in billions to the markets and failed to stop the rout
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We need us a Javier Milei.
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From your lips to God’s ear.
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Is there a transcript somewhere?
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Heh. ST:TOS https://youtu.be/yKfOqkuD4V0
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Imagining…a Sarah Hoyt AI
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Think shame on yourself!
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It would start by generating an unlimited number of Middle Fingers. :-P
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And a Shocked Face.
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LOL
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How many middle fingers does it have?
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All of them.
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It would say, “Why did you do something that silly?”, procede to get distracted by God knows what, and finish projects no more often.
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Unfortunately. I do need to finish things.
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On the positive side, we might get more cat pictures.
And they’re still cute if polydactyl.
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With attached chancla projector?
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1-The Mac “we’re for creative people” thing is due to Apple making a major effort to put their products in at every college in the United States. They trim off about 10% of the retail price and ensure that you can get the academic versions of software packages such as Adobe CS and their ilk easily.
So you’ve lived with a Mac and the OS and the infrastructure for at least 2-4 years and it’s…familiar.
(It’s nice, but I’m still enough of a classical nerd that I like being able to upgrade and modify my hardware and the latest generations of iMacs you can’t even upgrade the RAM from the factory.)
2-The illusion of central control appeals to certain personalities and technology seems to make it possible. Or at least “feasible.”
The problem is that you can’t do it all. I can’t think of a single monotheistic religion that doesn’t have what other faiths would call “demigods” in one form or another. The process of trying to do it all means that you can’t do anything, because you’re stuck doing one thing.
The problem is that you have to trust people-and most of the people that want to be “in charge” can’t trust anyone but themselves. Maybe. Sometimes.
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The thing is, the tenets of the silly dirt-goddess anti-human watermelon “environmental” religion are always remarkably in alignment with the desires and self-interest of the uberwealthy Davos Blowfeld “class”.
Amazing, that.
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These Bond villain WEF types want us to own nothing, because then we are not stewards of our families. They don’t want us to raise our children or grow our own vegetables or own a vehicle that can travel this great land and give us visions of beauty. They want us to be peasants, and we’re giving them the middle finger all over the western world right now.
If I were them, I’d be worried about us switching to the index finger.
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This seems to be their philosophy
“Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”
Sound familiar? I’d rather they were Bond Villains; Blowfeld and Goldfinger were the epitome of rationality and comprehensibility compared to these creatures
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Yeah, going from “eat ze bugz” to “eat the rich” is actually a fairly short step.
Technically one could feed the rich to the bugz and actually skip any regressive cannibalism stigma.
Were I one of “rich” I’d be putting effort into a few more philosophical obstacles along that sequence, beyond “trust us, we’re rich”.
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“Time to feed the hogs.”
(grin)
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The ultimate antibugz argument: There is no bacon from ze bugz.
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They are made of meat, yes.
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sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc, not just pretty words.
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It seems to me that forcing people to rent everything instead of owning is a good way to decrease the number of mechanically competent people.
You’re not allowed to repair rented stuff. You’re not going to accumulate tools if every one must be rented. There’s no broken stuff to trash pick, take apart to figure out how it works and try to repair.
Without the pipeline of kids whose natural curiosity turns them into troubleshooters it’s going to be difficult to get enough engineers and technicians who can keep our tech running when anything out of the ordinary happens.
The Davos crowd really has no idea how our technology developed and how many competent people are required to keep it running.
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Or how generally one takes better care of stuff that one owns. The other thing about owning certain things is that it confers a degree of economic freedom, if you have them. A good coffee maker – you don’t have to depend on Starbuck$. A sewing machine and the ability to follow a pattern – then you don’t have to depend on finding something that you like and fits at the store. A stove and a set of pans – well, you can cook for yourself.
And a car – well, you don’t have to build your time around a bus or subway/train schedule.
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That’s the whole point. They want us dependent on them, their schedules, their rentals, their food production. It’s pretty safe to assume that none of US will be running the rental warehouses, or own the rented products.
What they don’t seem to understand in that sense is how an economy works, or how those goods are going to get to the warehouses to be rented. With no power there is no manufacturing and no transport.
These are people who never in their lives have had to think about a supply chain and what makes it work.
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“These are people who never in their lives have had to think
about a supply chain and what makes it work.There, fixed that.
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Consumers are inherently controlled, and ruled. Producers are not.
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There’s another one: Malinformation, which oddly is not a Firefly thing about what Malcolm Reynolds says, but instead truth they don’t like:
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There is an interesting book on the management principles of The United States Marine Corps. The two that have stuck with me are: Push decision making as far down the chain of command as possible and Inform the lower levels what the actual goal is. The first means that Lieutenants who are in the middle of things are often making decisions that Captains used to make. The second was given in the example “The goal was to get across the river, not to capture three bridges”.
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D-Day, 1944.
They pushed decision making and “the objective” to privates. Result: success.
That is how you exploit chaos. It is not how you remove it. Don’t bother trying to remove chaos. Not possible. But those who can utilize chaos are just about invincible, assuming the other side doesn’t, or not as well.
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Virtually all my furniture and clothes are “rescues”.
I shop at second hand stores and even our town landfill. Hubby is good friends with the landfill owner and we go there to “shop” on Saturday afternoons in the summer. Our landfill does separate out really good things that people have tossed and people can buy them. I’ve gotten some nice antiques there.
To me it makes sense to rescue items that are good quality rather than buy new and use up more resources.
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Yep! I’m going to try and keep as many things from RedQuarters if/when I ever have to relocate. Mom and Dad Red got kid-proof furnishings of solid wood, and there is NO reason to get rid of them and buy shoddy.
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Unrelated wonder:
Do Moties shop at 3rd-Hand stores, or is that just for the poorest?
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Funny thing, was seeing a thing going around on how we’ve got a new measles outbreak going. The CDC folks are blaming it on post covid vax resistance. But the MMR is given at about 15 months.
Are we seeing an epidemic of toddlers with measles? I’m guessing, no…
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See, they blame the folks who are listed as not completely vaccinated when folks who are vaccinated– or “vaccinated,” since if you’re in a place where the officials are paid for vaccinating the whole population you got the paper– get sick.
Because if there wasn’t a wild unvaccinated group then the vaccinated couldn’t get sick.
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The jackass who went through two major DC area airports with Measles, first week of January, didn’t help.
The adult folks here in the USA who lack Measles vaccine were typically born elsewhere.
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There’s a subset of the population that the Measles vaccine doesn’t help, for whatever reason. One of my sisters falls into that group, and got Measles several years ago as an adult during (she suspected) a trip to Disneyland. She was vaccinated for it when she was young.
However, if everyone gets the MMR, then basic herd immunity should mean that the disease dies off naturally from a lack of possible hosts to infect, since the number of people who aren’t helped by the vaccine is very small.
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Folks my approximate age got a measels vaccine that didnt work very well. Turns out the dosage schedule they were using back then wasn’t quite right, limiting effectiveness. Thus, I caught it as a kid and survived it.
But if enough folks are immune, and if the folks who do catch it promptly isolate, it cant spread effectively.
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I had it in my teens, I think. I mean the illness.
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“the dosage schedule they were using back then wasn’t quite right, limiting effectiveness”
I had to get re-vaccinated for measles when I was in high school for that reason. Now that I’m 60 my local healthcare provider suggests (but doesn’t require) COVID, flu, shingles and pneumonia vaccines. Hard no on COVID vax (had the first two shots in 2021 but nothing since), not going to bother with flu vax this year (had it in the past with no issues), and not going to do pneumonia vax yet (I think over 65 is the general recommendation there), but I am seriously considering shingles vax. (I had chicken pox when I was 14 so that virus is still lurking somewhere.) Is shingles vax worth getting?
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” not going to do pneumonia vax yet (I think over 65 is the general recommendation there), but I am seriously considering shingles vax. (I had chicken pox when I was 14 so that virus is still lurking somewhere.) Is shingles vax worth getting?”
pneumonia vax: 65+ unless you have other comorbidities, such as diabetes, obesity, etc. I got it years ago, and just got a booster.
Shingles vax: I would say yes; My mother got shingles and it’s the only thing (including breast cancer, broken femurX2) that she took painkillers for. I just got my second shot (2-shot series) last month.
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I’ve heard the new, non-fetal-cell-line vaccine is more effective and has fewer side-effects.
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Non fetal cell line vax for shingles or pneumonia?
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Shingles.
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shingles.
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I actually took that one only. Didn’t know the other one wsa fetal-cell-line. Wouldn’t have taken the fcl one because they ALWAYS have horrific side effects. It seems to be like Kuru, something in it. Every time.
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Pretty much nobody ever knows they’re fetal cell lines… well, before the kung flu thing.
Now everybody is looking, not just going “oh, anti-vaxxer, shun the unclean.”
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I recommend the Shingles vax. Highly.
It is not necessarily 100% effective, especially if health issues screw up getting the second dose properly. Thus I still got Shingles.
Get that shot. I would rather be in a nut-kicking contest with Pelé and Roy Gerela than go through “relatively mild Shingles” again.
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Another question: Has anyone else who used to get colds or flu regularly NOT gotten sick at all since COVID?
I used to ALWAYS get 1 or 2 colds per year — always started with sore throat followed by runny nose followed by cough. I got a rather nasty but short-lived cold in late February 2020, before any COVID cases were officially detected in our area, or anywhere within about 100 miles of us. Since then (now almost 4 years) I have not had any more colds or even a sniffle, other than a single bout of OMG Omicron Covid in April 2022 (about 9 months after getting the vax; wasn’t any worse than a mild flu. The flu I had in 2018 was worse). I am beginning to wonder if 1) the “cold” I had in 2020 was actually Classic Covid but I didn’t know it at the time, or 2) Omicron gave me some kind of super immunity to all coronaviruses.
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I noticed my frequency declined when I stopped flying for work in 2018. Wuflu extended that state to way more people.
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We were talking about that in a group the other day.
I have had “things” but not colds. And some of the “illnesses” were likely auto-immune. But no classic cold/flu. no idea why.
Some people think stopping flights killed the virus by restricting it.
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I pretty much stopped getting colds and flus about 10 years ago. Don’t know why.
Which is why I was pretty sure the mild cold I got in February 2020 was COVID. Also why I didn’t buy the hype, or get the shots. The hysteria made no sense to me. Millions weren’t dropping dead in the street. This wasn’t H5N1 from The Last Centurion, much less H7D3 from Under A Graveyard Sky. So, then, why were they upending the whole health-care system (what was left of it after 0bamacare)? Why were they mandating cheap cloth and paper masks which we had known for 100 years didn’t prevent viruses from spreading? Why did dozens of people have to stand in line outside a 25,000 square foot warehouse grocery store for half an hour in the rain to ‘protect’ us from standing in line at the checkouts? Which we wound up doing anyway after they finally let us inside.
Every aspect of what the ‘Publick Health Authoriteez’ did was stuck-on-stupid. Then came the shrill denials that it came from the Wuhan bio-weapons lab, or from China at all, when anybody with eyes to see and a brain to think could see that it had.
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Facts do not depend on opinions. Unfortunately, for far too many people, opinions do not depend on facts, either.
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PRECISELY this.
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I am unsure if I’ve had a symptomatic viral infection at all since then.. but then those over-the-counter (i.e. non-prescription) antiviral measures that were publicized/realized? Kept that up. The recent WuFlu (so the tests said…) outbreak at work… I sailed right through. Alright, I bumped up the D3 and even zinc for a while.
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The Reader got the first dose of the shingles vaccine and got pretty sick (flu symptoms for 4 days). After discussion with his doctor, he decided to skip the 2nd dose. Your mileage WILL vary.
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I was fine after my first shingles dose and sick as a dog after the second. So don’t count even on your own reaction being steady
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I ended up getting the old Singles shot. One and done. Doctor wanted to wait for the new version because suppose to be more effective. But the release kept being delayed. Since SIL has had bad, to the point that they have handicap placard for her shingle outbreaks, bad, I agreed. That and the harder you had chicken pox, the higher probably that shingles outbreaks occur. OTOH less hard chicken pox the likelihood you get it again. Regardless, I had the chicken pox really, really, bad.
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My sister had shingles and apparently the vaccine helps during an outbreak, but it was NOWHERE
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I’ve heard that too. I don’t know about availability. Was told that the old vaccine did not help if an individual already had an outbreak, even to prevent further outbreaks. Why important to get before one knew they were susceptible. The new vaccine does prevent future outbreaks. Giving people an option to wait to see if they are susceptible to shingles presenting itself. Not that anyone who has had a shingles outbreak would recommend this. Everyone who has had outbreaks I know say: “Don’t. Wait.”
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Shringrix is a two-dose, and I’d suggest having each when you can have downtime for a day or two. They hit me fairly hard, but not as hard as having shingles would hit from all I’ve heard of that.
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I know a couple of people for whom the measles vaccine just doesn’t “take.” As in, no immune response at all. One of them has an overall terrible immune system (which is impressive that she has one at all, just saying—functionally she didn’t for the better part of a decade.) But another one shows an immune response to everything else, just not measles. She finally had to tell them “the MMR just isn’t working, please stop.”
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No. We’re seeing illegal invaders with meastles, is what we’re seeing. A lot of them will claim to be “children” even with white hair, so they’ll say it’s children, but it’s not.
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Yes, but given the earliest questions started was 2021, the oldest could only be 3.
Unless we are seeing adults who got their MMR as children also getting it too.
Which would also be rather an issue. Yet there is a distinct lack of reporting on who, precisely, is getting it, just that there is an epidemic therefore the untouchables must be to blame…
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OT, but how is everyone weather-wise?
It got above freezing here for the first time since Sunday night, so of course it’s raining on the snow/ice and will refreeze tonight. Main roads mostly clear, side roads still unplowed. The local Publix looked a little like the PX before lockdown and there were some interesting shortages. NO shredded cheese, for example. It was still good to get out of the house.
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Our water main into the house has a leak. We’re working on getting it replaced
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We got to 64 yesterday and today, but will plummet to the teens by midnight. Should be above freezing tomorrow. Maybe, Perhaps. Or low 30s on Saturday. Maybe. Windchills in the teens until Monday.
I’d be happy for average, which is highs in the lower 50s and lows in the 20s. Water mains are breaking all over the city. RedQuarters was without water on Wednesday afternoon, and from 0600-1800 yesterday.
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It’s -5 at my house right now. The power is out, not sure why, over a many mile area. It went out for about 20 minutes earlier today before we got out of school and they said it was a substation issue. Don’t know if that is what is causing this outage.
We have gas fireplace heat in our basement to supplement our hot water radiant heat upstairs. The boiler is gas but a newer model that needs electricity to run.
The gas fireplace is an older model ( rescued from the dump) doesn’t need electricity. So we won’t freeze no matter what. It’s been 45 minutes so far. I have plenty of candles I’m thinking about setting up a way to make dinner for hubby.
We’ll see what happens.
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Forecast says this week we might get two digit temperatures without a negative sign in front of them.
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We are incredibly blessed/lucky. So far, the lowest winter temps have been in the low positive single digits, and the PNW leg of the polar vortex passed 100 miles north, so we escaped the really bad ice storms. Got 0.1 inches last Tuesday, but no power outages and “only” one horrible crash on the main highway. Rest their souls, please, Lord. The latest storm is hitting northern California, but is passing mostly south of us. The snow from last week is watering the trees, and with luck, will make it to the aquifers. (Monthly precip so far is 1.25″. When it’s not uncommon to get 10″ a year, every bit helps.)
The override light bulb for my barn heater died (3 month lifetime; power resistors on order) so the temp was 50 degrees rather than the 38 degrees I want. OTOH, it didn’t drop below freezing yesterday morning, so I didn’t lose a bunch of kerosene heating things up.
We have a full propane tank for the house (and the backup heater is mains-independent), and I have a lifetime supply of firewood for the wood stove in the barn. The other heater is strictly to keep things from freezing up. I’m used to doing work in there wearing my coat in the morning. I prefer not having to wear gloves, but… (My sense of survival says no gloves when I’m using power machinery. My hands have arthritis, but they’re still attached. I like to keep it that way.)
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Just discovered water coming from the bathroom faucet for the first time since Friday. Yesterday was interesting. My beloved suggested calling everyone at church in the directory to be sure they had water, and discovered we were the only ones who didn’t. Did a five-mile pilgrimage out to another member, who filled up our assortment of containers with well water. Some roads were clear, but others….well, if anyone here had a Zamboni we could have had mass ice skating parties.
Only went below zero one day, is 7 out there now but supposed to be above freezing this afternoon and up to the mid-40s tomorrow. Huzzah!
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Several years ago, we had a freezeup with temps slightly below 0F. There’s a valve under the house, and due to unrelated work, the insulation over the valve was knocked out of place. A judicious use of a milkhouse heater got things flowing again, and I replaced the insulation.
The next morning, we had -28F. Still had water. That spring, I made a pad with a garbage bag and some fiberglass insulation. If anybody has to go under the house, that pad gets carefully reset. Hasn’t been that cold (about a dozen years ago) since, though single digit negative temps usually happen a time or three each winter.
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WPDE. Tried to answer on my phone, hit the, “you must log in,” bit.
Meanwhile, our problem is the level in one of the local water towers dropped because a, a pipe broke and b, everyone had their faucets dripping to keep their pipes from freezing.
Now at least we have a trickle back. Still have to boil it, though. Unless it’s going faucet-to-toilet tank. I have a new appreciation of the value of a semi-full toilet tank.
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Eugene. Roads thawed out in the valley. Interestingly enough dirt under the grass is still partly frozen, or was yesterday. Found that out when I went out to clean up the yard of all of Pepper’s leavings. Temp is hanging around high 30’s/low 40’s.
Sister & BIL got nailed again after we did. They are west of north end of Vancouver, WA (Battleground). What hurt them is their pool/hot tub filter system froze, and backed up water everywhere. Including into the area under their main bedroom and bath (designated unfinished storage). They’ve had problems in there before so everything is in waterproof tubs, but they lost the drywall in the ceiling covering the pipes, again. Not sure if they’ve lost anything else. (Re northern CA storm. Must remind hubby to get chains for the Santa Fe for his trip. Again. Siskiyou pass + whatever route we come home, too possible to need chains.)
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$SPOUSE insists that chains be in the Subies whenever there’s a chance of snow, or even a hint. I draw the line at July, but mid September to mid April is a good idea. I had to deal with a winter storm warning the third week of March a few years ago. Was a preop appointment for an eye procedure; left for Medford a day early, then had to stay a day late.
An adverse reaction to the pneumonia shot the clinic insists it never gave me made the last few days way too exciting. I thought it was flu, but tested negative and had a spot on my lung. Got antibiotics at the Medford Bi-Mart and was OK in a week or so.
Last week’s snow storm made the passes pretty nasty. The traffic cams say Siskiyou summit is OK right now, but it’s always touchy. A traffic cam on SR 140 at Lake of the Woods got knocked offline, and it’s still down a week later. OTOH, the ones north of Crater Lake (OR 138/OR230) look OK for the while, and they get the worst of the snow most storms.
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They’ve gotten lucky on the Siskiyous more than once (PTB closed them after all 3 rigs had gotten through). But last year hubby had to come back I-84 to I-5, instead of Ontario, via hwy 20, to Bend, and hwy 126. Passes were open (actually was open/closed/open/closed, so really iffy any), but hwy 126 was requiring chains or 4×4 with snow tires (when they stopped for gas in Ontario, OR). Hubby didn’t have either. The rig with them was 4×4 with snow tires, and they did take the pass. Despite hubby having to go way more miles, he beat the other rig to Eugene by 3 hours. Difference of 70 – 80 MPH VS 20 MPH. The 4×4 didn’t have to chain up. But the pass was really, really, bad, plus they got forced into a snow bank by an idiot driver.
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Yeah. We got water in our bathroom first time.
Our line in the yard is four feet deep. It froze. No one seems to know why….
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“Because,” *sigh.”
Local water company is handing out flats of bottled water. Guess appearing on Eyewitness News or equivalent was embarrassing. Lady handing out the water told me the county water Co will probably shut it off again shortly. No word on when they’ll have things fixed.
We now have flats of bottled water to go with the well water our fellow church member provided.
It will be very nice to be able to do laundry and take showers again.
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Ed McMann voice: How cold was it?
Assuming there’s not a stray portion close to the surface, look for access points that aren’t insulated. Likely suspects are water meters/cutoff valves set underground. When we were on a common well, our cutoff valve was 3′ below the surface and protected by a wooden kiosk filled with insulation. Really solidly packed insulation.
The rest of the water lines around here run 3′ deep, and one run from the pumphouse to connect to the old line is guaranteed to be that depth; I had to lay power and fill the damned thing… No problems; that portion hasn’t seen anything below -10 F, but the older sections survived -20s.
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An article I read pointed out how many of the European self-appointed elites live in houses or estates that are part of family trusts. So they “rent” sort of, not own in fee-simple as individuals. House, most furnishings, art, even vehicles are all part of the package to be passed to the next user/family-member. That really messes with how they understand renting things.
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Not only European self-appointed elites but guaranty families like the Kennedy’s, Rockefeller’s, etc., do the same. It is the only way to keep the federal government and various states hands off inheritance via estate taxes. The Trusts pay tax on investments and “income” from the properties. Even though that “income” is from rent that the renters are getting from the trusts as not(?) taxable, but tractable, income.
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My brother set up a family corporation to serve the same purpose. All salaries are pain to the corporation, all expenses are paid by the corporation, all properties are owned by the corporation.
He boasted once that anyone who sues him will get nothing, because he owns nothing.
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Sorry. Brother in law.
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Correct. The corporation will be sued. Guarantied.
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At which point I corrected him. (I bet he loved that too.) There is no Disinformation and Misinformation. There are truths and there are lies. And while people might believe lies, yes — like believing that Brandon is a good person — usually the cure for that is not to stop them talking. It’s to talk more.
This is also how you make sure folks are actually understanding what’s said….and thinking on that, that may be part of why it pisses them off so much.
A major issue in teaching is that you should understand what you’re teaching. A lot of folks simply don’t— which I usually figure out a few years later when I discover the missing bits that make something that was definitely not accurate make sense.
Say, to pick on some “how to write horses correctly” advice, the claim that stallions will attack a menstruating woman. Dig a bit, that’s a cleaned up version of they’ll be sexually aggressive. Dig around yet some more, someone misunderstood– especially if you’re not dealing with something like the American Quarter Horse * , women often rode mares, because they are smaller and you can’t afford to only have geldings and stallions ridden, so yes a wild mustang stallion would attack a woman TO CLAIM HER MARE for his herd.
Someone mixed that with training war horses to respond to blood by being aggressive rather than freaked out, and you get my mom laughing her rump off because the horse she was given on the ranch was a stallion exactly because Cimarron would be a gentleman to ladies, but was a total ass to any guy who rode him. (Yes, I know the horse’s name. He died of old age when I was like two. I CAN ALSO WAX POETIC ABOUT HIS ADORABLE MOUSTACHE OK?!) This is fairly common for stallions for whatever reason, maybe because they can get away with it. He’d also let her get off and then go beat the snot out of any mustangs harassing the rest of the cowboys.
And * because I use to be quite grumpy about the glorified saddlepad that most old school saddles are, until I found out that horses that the far superior design of the American “cowboy” type saddle (look, the idea is to keep you on the horse, not to show off, you’re working here) only became possible when the trade off of extra weight became favorable. See also, keeping mean animals; now, we get rid of dangerous animals, not so much an option with lower animal density.
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Doomcock of YouTube is now unmentionable at Disney (after an attempt at mocking him during a She-Hulk episode). Apparently a major stockholder then blew up and told Disney’s CEO that Doomcock would make a better CEO, since he was willing to say what Disney was doing wrong.
Indeed, the woke elite hate the “little people” having a voice or a platform.
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Which is somewhat ironic, since Doomcock is someone I absolutely, positively, do not trust when it comes to Disney rumors.
If I had a dollar for every time he’s predicted that Kathleen Kennedy is on her way out…
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At least he labels clearly when he’s repeating rumors. If I had a grain of salt for every time “professional media” reported rumor, or false leaks, as fact I’d be king of salt planet.
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If nobody owns anything, who are you going to rent FROM?
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The government, of course.
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Why, the all benevolent State, of course! /s
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As Daffy Duck observed, “Hmm, pronoun trouble.”
They don’t phrase it “We will own nothing and we will be happy.” They say “You. You.”
Once you see this, the conclusions all but form themselves.
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OT but I got myself into an argument on Reddit with a typical dumb Reddit liberal. The OP was about some “Transracialist” nut jobs and them getting eye surgery to look like they’re Asian and I stated that there’s absolutely no argument against this that can’t be used against Transgenderism and it’s clearly driving said liberal nuts. I know normally you shouldn’t engage with the stupid but this is kind of research. The possibility of transracialism growing and metastasizing has serious potential in fucking with lefty fools and I find it fascinating.
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I mean, we have people getting permanent tattoos of leopard spots and ear surgery to have pointed ears, what’s a little eye-fold to set people off?
…The more exploding heads from categories gone wild, the better.
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There is absolutely no biological marker for race. there are some physical clues, but how they’re interpreted is mostly cultural. (In Kenya, I’m told, Obama is “Arab” and looks “Arab” to Kenyans.)
SEX otoh has a clear biological marker.
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I actually find transracialism more believable than transgenderism. It’s still stupid though.
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so we don’t lose our faith in experts.
Way too late for that. At this point I’m questioning long held beliefs including things like “was the Cold War real or just another grift for power and cash”.
The key to lying successfully is making it believable. Do that and you can fool all the people.
But between magical leaping viruses that can determine political believes and cast 81 million votes they’ve lied so hard they may have undone people’s beliefs in truth things.
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Yes.
Consider that FDR and crew supplied enough material, tools, and information to the USSR to build the bomb a decade before Stalin should have been able too…
Also consider the US never truly won a serious war after WWII, but the MIC made trillions. This accelerated the build up of the vulture class.
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You’re insulting vultures. They perform a distasteful but essential service.
No, the parasite class is more along the lines of intestinal worms. We’d all be much better off without them.
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“Since we’re populating a newly terraformed planet, we can choose which life-forms to incorporate into its environment. We have decided not to include a variety of parasitic organisms — fleas, ticks, lice, socialists, intestinal worms and certain species of mosquitoes.”
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Here goes Obama’s “wingman” once again proclaiming that if the Supreme Court doesn’t rule the way the radical left wants and allows Trump to be unconstitutionally and illegally removed from election ballots, then the Court is not legitimate. If Biden had legitimately beat Trump in 2020, Democrats would not be going to such lengths to prevent him from running again.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/01/18/holder-scotus-legitimacy-is-at-stake-in-trump-rulings/
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Obviously. That’s a massive tell.
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These public statement, note not even leaks, also means internal polling is far, far worse than the horrible-for-Brandon numbers being reported from public polls.
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yep
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Yet another reason for outrage as to how the entire apparatus of the federal government has been weaponized by Team ObamaBiden to destroy all who disagree with them:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/18/feds-asked-banks-search-americans-records-gun-retailers-words-like-trump-maga-bible-purchases/
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The Reader thinks it is time for a ‘credit card free month’. The Reader thinks a month of no cash flow through the system will stop this.
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In spite of the headline, this is what the document actually says related to ‘Bible purchases’
“The purchase of books (including religious texts) and subscriptions to other media containing extremist views.”
That grouping would include the various terrorist glossy magazines (yes, they exist, I’ve heard the folks in intel who read them comment they were nicer than the official AF magazines).
I suspect it is going to come out that the list was given to the credit card companies so that they could, WHEN PROVIDED WITH A WARRANT, turn over only those transactions which fell under its scope.
It will then be used to attack recognizing Islamic terrorism.
The active shooter “detection” part will be “interesting”, especially for those of us familiar with cartel straw purchases, and again looks like it was designed to destroy proper use.
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And you would be wrong. No warrant. Just “encouragement”. And it’s nice to know you agree that Trump and MAGA indicate terrorism.
Click to access 2024-01-17-jdj-to-bishoff-re-ti-request.pdf
“The Committee and Select Subcommittee have obtained documents indicating that following January 6, 2021, FinCEN distributed materials to financial institutions that, among other things, outline the “typologies” of various persons of interest and provide financial institutions with suggested search terms and Merchant Category Codes (MCCs) for identifying transactions on behalf of federal law enforcement.1 These materials included a document recommending the use of generic terms like “TRUMP” and “MAGA” to “search Zelle payment messages” as well as a “prior FinCEN analysis” of “Lone Actor/Homegrown Violent Extremism Indicators.”
“Despite these transactions having no apparent criminal nexus—and, in fact, relate to Americans exercising their Second Amendment rights— FinCEN seems to have adopted a characterization of these Americans as potential threat actors. This kind of pervasive financial surveillance, carried out in coordination with and at the request of federal law enforcement, into Americans’ private transactions is alarming and raises serious doubts about FinCEN’s respect for fundamental civil liberties. “
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We, and our rights, are a threat to their Authoriteh! ‘Extremists’ must be kept under constant surveillance whenever we exercise our rights!
We’re as subversive as those truck drivers and their Bouncy Castles. It’s all dog-whistles for Insurrection!!
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There is no shortage of people convinced they can create the Perfect World. They just have to eliminate all those imperfect people who don’t fit in it.
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Not according to apologists. They’ll defend the loss of our 4th and 5th Amendment rights, until contributions to subversive sites like Sarah’s get them hauled off.
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OK, Doomer. Getting too much light for your preferred heat and panic?
As usual, your reading comprehension sucks, and you resort to making things up.
How about you go back to predicting the last dozen of my zero deaths?
Or screaming accusations about how I’m bearing false witness for remembering something, and then flouncing because I link to you saying it?
Or whining because I actually go look at what you claim, and Yet Again you’re flying off the headline, rather than the evidence?
I went and read the actual letter, to try to get primary sources, and engaged with the bits they bothered to include. You can’t even be bothered to read a comment without making up something to attack.
News flash, when folks try to hand you an interpretation, and BOTHERING TO CLICK ON THEIR SOURCE tells you that they are misleading you? And the source itself isn’t bothering to actually give the support for their most inflammatory claims?
That is a sign you’re being stampeded.
You want to be a lemming, that’s on you. I have no need to join in your Doomer dreams.
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https://thefederalist.com/2024/01/18/i-bought-a-bible-slingshot-and-sports-gear-so-im-probably-on-a-domestic-terrorist-watchlist/
“It’s way harder to go after the international drug cartels coordinating with communist China to infiltrate and destabilize our country via our southern border. That would take a lot more than a few keystrokes and secret fascist orders to highly cooperative “private” financial institutions. It might require going after high-level corruption rings within our own government. Nah. Go after the moms instead.”
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The Reader notes that this is in the same league. https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/free-speech/tim-kilcullen/2024/01/17/breaking-report-inside-biden-admins-new-strategy-censor
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Ah, the old Knowledge Problem, which our overly-credential elites seem to ignore, if not deny its existence.
As far as disinformation and misinformation (what no dat-information or mister-information?) there is one problem with “letting my people speak,” namely too-much-information. Oodles of prominent “thought leaders” from JRB to DJT could benefit from a big mug of STFU.
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