The Glooming Morning

A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
Some shall be pardon’d, and some punished

This has been running through my head all morning, because it seems to be the mood of most people on Facebook.

It was made worse by the fact that we woke up to overcast skies, then drove to Colorado Springs, where Dan is right now at work, and I’m sitting in a coffee shop waiting for it to be time to check in to the convention hotel.  I’m attending Cosine, and if you guys want to see me, intercept me at my panels or Dan’s and we can plan stuff, because the rest of the time I’ll be in my hotel room, writing.  Because Darkship Revenge WILL BE DONE.  (Oh, yeah, and there’s my art and Robert’s in the art room, under Trouble In Mind Studio.)

Anyway, from the overcast skies at home, we hit flurries just before Monument, and the Springs are getting good and plastered with snow.

You guys know for whom I voted and why.  Or rather, you know whom I voted against and why.

I don’t buy the nonsense that the release of the emails won Trump the election, and if they had, the question is “why didn’t the press report on these emails? Or on the shenanigans behind the emails?  Or on the Clinton server scandal?” But until I see figures, I won’t believe it.  Most people aren’t even on line.  Those who are go to rather conventional sites and never heard of those emails.  Of those who heard of them, most never read them.

But I’m one of those it JUST might have put over the edge.  Mind you, my case is murky.  I was never going to vote for Hillary.  Her behavior over Benghazi (beyond setting diplomats to die/letting them die) would be enough to decide that.  She’s either malicious or not minimally competent.  (Or yes.)  And then there was teh blithering incompetence and malice of her email servers.  Look, guys, yeah, I know, she behaved like the computer-clueless grandmother.  I love my mom.  I’d never let her do anything in a computer that involved national security.  Same goes for my dad.  I don’t care about someone’s age, it’s the cyber-cluelessness that hurts.

However, everything I’d seen about Trump indicated that he was a conventional, old-style democrat, and, to quote my friend Charlie Martin “I don’t vote for democrats.”  Not since the Dems (pace Heinlein whom I’d trust against a wall of pundits and a brace of geniuses) were taken over from the inside by the communists starting in the forties.  Which means Trump isn’t “old style enough” was my conclusion.

I was going to go third party.  And then I read the emails.  It wasn’t even the corruption, oikophobia and casual malfeasance pretending to be sophistication.  No, it was that Podesta, as a member of Clinton’s inner team clearly was above reproach in his own mind.  It was clear from his tone and his attitude there was nothing he could do, up to and including eating live puppies on screen that would get reported in the media, if it was bad or even dubious.  And that —  That I couldn’t allow.

And that convinced me to put an extra strength clothespin on my nose and vote for the corrupt businessman over the corrupt politician.  Because degrees of corruption matter.

Since then my attitude has changed to “guarded optimism” in that he seems to be making the right appointments and the right moves.

And besides there is the psychological effect.  The left have lost their collective mind.  Their constitution-and-procedure ignorance is so amazing that they’ve been blaming Trump for what Obama has done, apparently under the amiable idea that the new president takes over right after the election. They have taken to complaining about Trump’s disrespect for the constitution before he does anything to show that, and after they wholeheartedly supported Mr. Pen and Phone.

And don’t get me started on the shabbies (they’re sheep, they’re babies, they’re shaaaaaabies) bleating about how Hillary won the “popular vote” and “it’s not fair” forgetting that a) there is no popular vote contest.  If there were, my friends in CA and NYC might very well have voted instead of staying home snarling “A pox on both their houses.”  b)The electoral rolls integrity of California MIGHT be as good as Chicago’s.  Maybe.  Only it’s not dead people, but illegal immigrants voting.  c) The rest of the country will NOT be ruled from California.  Just no.  Do you want a revolution? That’s how you get a revolution.

Then there are the geniuses.  Yesterday one of these said “But we’d have won the under 25 vote. If all the kids could vote.” Think on this a moment.  After 4 generations of controlling public schools, the left is telling us that after twenty five most people know they’ve been told lies.  So they’re saying they’d win the vote of children too young to know they were lied to.  They must think “stealing candy from babies” means babies are cunning and the best barometer of —  Oh, hell, I can’t even.  I’m all out of even.

Another flash of genius was the Swiss? German? Chick on FB telling us that women all over the world would be demonstrating against Trump today.

She could give us no reason to do this beyond “He’s misogynistic” (I doubt it.  The Much Married Mr. Trump clearly likes women.  Oh, yeah, but I forget that these days misogynistic means “does not swallow the cr*p from fourth wave feminists.”)  She was also unable to tell us why we should give a good goddamn what “women all over the world” think.  Considering the leaders “women all over the world” put up with, and the treatment they endure (and note they think Americans are worse off, because our snow flakes are CHAMPION whiners. Americans! We even win the loser competition.  We have the BEST losers*  * For definitions of “best” not actually found in the dictionary.)  chickie should clean her house first.  Even if she had more rational reasons to oppose Trump, she’s not here, she’s not American and we don’t actually give a f*ck what she thinks.  We kicked the English out and it wasn’t to allow the opinions of people so unconnected with ourselves as the Swiss and the Germans, not to mention the Serbians or the Indians.

This sheer amount of derangement — and really what do they think it accomplishes to lose their sh*t now before he does anything?  Even from the strategic pov this is as stupid as my cat Havey who routinely forgets how stairs work and gets “trapped” upstairs until we show him.  I mean, if they’re losing their sh*t now, what will they do when he does overstep?  And why do they think anyone will pay attention? — has forced me to defend Trump which in turn creates a psychological effect of attachment.

And yet, I remain cautiously guarded in my optimism, as should you.

Remember no matter who you voted for, the government got in.  And remember the government makes a good servant but a bad master.  Also remember we have empirical evidence that business men tend to get their lunch money stolen in the morass (and man, do they have *ss) that is DC.

Don’t start to form the misguided impression we elected a white knight sans peur et sans reproche.

What is sad is that by comparison to the opposition, Trump — Trump! — WAS a breath of fresh air.  Insofar as the democrats have a point when they scream that Hillary was the best qualified candidate ever, they are right.  She was the best qualified candidate to complete the project of turning the US into Europe light: sclerotic, strapped down by so many regulations no innovation happens, bowing down to international law, becoming “exceptional just like all the other countries are exceptional.”

Our rejection of her was the rejection of the whole blue (but really, really red) project that she’s devoted her life to.

The dogs just don’t like the food, no matter how well it’s sold.

In that spirit remember that Donald Trump is not an ideologue and grew up in a world in which being a leftist was virtue-signaling and status-signaling.

Maybe he’ll turn into the pragmatist we need.  BUT as someone raised under socialist assumptions, let me tell you that unless he’s capable of more introspection than I think he is, he’s going to do default left on at least some things.  More likely on a lot of things.  He’s also an egotist, which tends to translate  to statist when frustrated.

We earned ourselves a little breathing room, a little space to turn around the crazy train to socialism that has been running out of control for close to a 100 years.

If we work really hard now, our grandchildren might be truly free and live in a truly constitutional republic.

This is not the end, but it might be the beginning of the end for the internationalist socialist project.

Let’s hope it is.

In this glooming morning, after you get done eating your popcorn at the media reaction to the inauguration, roll up your sleeves and get to work.

Build under, build around, build over.  Minimize the reach of government into the lives of citizens at every possible opportunity.  Make sure it remembers it’s the servant, not the master.

And be not afraid.  Reality supports our assumptions, not theirs. In the end, we win, they lose.

264 responses to “The Glooming Morning

  1. Heinlein observed that you could ALWAYS find a candidate to vote against, even if you cannot find one to vote for. Sometimes you get to do both: vote with joy for a candidate and jy against a candidate (Reagan v Carter, 1980.)

    This year was a year of voting not for the freude but for the schadenfreude, which has proven greater than ever I could have imagined.

  2. Stayed up to watch, and you know what? I’m glad I did. I am happy with Trump’s Presidential speech. That speech is such a big difference from Obama’s to me.

    To me this is not a campaign speech; it’s a reaffirmation of the promises he made to the people, and his intent. That he puts America’s interests first is a GOOD thing to me, and what a President should do.

    I think it’s also rather awesome that he has a rabbi praying. That’s something I am liking a lot.

    I am optimistic, and wish Trump and America well.

    • I’m in default cynic mode. Some sounded good, some sounded like it could come back to haunt him. Put no confidence in it myself. Thought it played well. Streaming it from CSPAN. Did my mind wander or did Pence not take his oath live before Trump gave his speech?

      What actually gave me a bit of hope was how somber Trump looked before he appeared before the crowd. The magnitude of what was about to take place? The talk about the football? Maybe both? That Trump looked pretty serious.

      CSPAN showed the former presidents and first ladies before they were announced to the crowd. Hillary behind the scenes looked different than the Hillary before the crowd. Wondered if medication kicked in. Seriously. George Bush looked sad, as in something personal sad, and wondered if his father and mother aren’t doing well in the hospital. Carter looked like he was carrying a tan flat cap, but don’t know if he put it on when it started raining.

      The shocker was Bob Dole. Both Trump and Obama spoke and shook hands with him as they left. Dole looks bad. He was also in a wheelchair.

      • Justice Thomas swore Pence in, then an interlude with the Tab and Apple choir and Marine band doing America, then Chief Justice Roberts swore in Trump followed by his speech.

      • I’m just happy he sounds SO DIFFERENT FROM OBAMA. This is a Prez who won’t bow to kings and emperors.

        • Apparently he only used the word ‘I’ three times in his speech.

          :p

          • Yep. Contrast and compare Obama’s exit speech.

            Actually, if someone can contrast and compare Obama’s first inaugural speech with Trump’s; I’d be grateful. Though, it is likely someone already has, out there…

          • Heck Obama could use I (or other personal singular pronouns/ references ) three times in a single sentence without breathing hard :-). I feared that Trump’s biggest weakness might also be a bit of Narcissism. But if it is he at least understands what a doofus it makes you look like in a speech.

            Hey I just realized if Obama takes up writing in his retirement he’ll likely write as a first person unreliable narrator!

  3. It is now after 12:00 noon Eastern Time. And as our 44th President fades into the pages of history, a country music song comes to mind:

    It is overcast here today, too. But it’s not the least bit gloomy at all.

  4. Christopher M. Chupik

    “apparently under the amiable idea that the new president takes over right after the election”

    Hell, in a few days, Trump will be solely responsible for everything that happened the past eight years . . .

    • Only a matter of time before the newsies start treating Trump as the continuation of that evil Bush. After all they’re both illegitimate.

      • Elected Republicans may be illegitimate, but I’ve noticed the Democrats are the real bastards.

      • Actually, I suspect we’ve now reached the point where we talk about how wonderful and reasonable Bush was and how he would be thrown out of the modern Republican party for being too moderate.

        There’s nothing the press loves more than a former Republican president when they can contrast him with a current one.

        • I told the leftist screamers back in the day that W would eventually be viewed in a somewhat similar light as Truman. They never believed me, of course.

          • When Bush W was elected I kept telling people he was democrat light. So his “moderate” positioning isn’t a surprise..

        • They usually wait until the former Republican president has died or is otherwise incapable of contradicting their correction rewrite of History.

          So: Bush ’41, not Bush ’43.

          • I’m a bit worried about ’41 at the moment. It doesn’t sound like he’s in very good shape.

            • NOBODY aged 92 with pneumonia is in very good shape.

              I dislike saying such things, but it is somewhat reassuring to know that when he passes he will (as was Reagan) be eulogized by a Republican president. I do not think I could contain my bitterness at what a president Hillary would have to say at his funeral (and thank G-D I didn’t have to endure Billy Jeff or B. O. “praising” Reagan.)

        • Birthday Girl

          I saw a protestor sign somewhere along the motorcade route “I never thought I would miss Dubya.” LOL

  5. I think that, as with the last Republican president, they have demonized him so much that he has nothing to gain from doing what they want to any degree. They are going to spend the next four years kicking him over to our side.

    • W though he could eventually get the media on his side. Trump seems to understand that is never going to happen.

      • Social media also makes it a lot easier to bypass them these days.

      • That’s true. What’s nice is that Trump is flat-out IGNORING the most hostile media: he’s decided to cut his losses and avoid dealing with CNN, for example, rather than waste time and effort trying to get them to report on him reasonably. Thus, CNN will become increasingly less relevant as a serious news source, as they’ll be excluded from some really major stories.

    • The difference is unlike most Republicans he:

      1. Realizes their is nothing to gain from doing what they want.
      2. Figures that’s enough reason to do as he pleases instead of trying to win over “moderates.”

      • I think he realizes that his people consider opprobrium from the left equivalent to accolades from regular Americans. By which I mean people proud to be American and not snooty pretentious citizens of the world.

        • I certainly do!

        • To add a #3 to Herb’s point
          3. Realizes that the general public utterly hates and despises the Media, Academia, and Mouthy Hollywood celebs. Stand up to them, and the general public will love you.

          It would seem that only three Republican Presidents/wannabe presidents in the past 50 years have understood this- Nixon, Regan, and now Trump.

          • And I’m not so sure that your #3 was true in Nixon’s day. He did see the media as his enemy, but I don’t think it got him any points with the average American — who mostly still trusted Walter Cronkite, et al. Only now that alternative sources have been able to tell us what the media won’t has the average American come to realize what liars most “journalists” really are.

            … But since I wasn’t around for Nixon, I’m quite happy to be contradicted by someone with first-hand knowledge if I got that wrong.

            • That was the contemporary observation, as set down in quite a few books written then and thereafter- “The Boys on the Bus” for instance. People may have trusted Uncle Walter, but had little use for the “Eastern Media Establishment”.
              Watergate gave the Media a huge credibility boost.

            • There wasn’t as much distrust of the media, but there wasn’t a blind acceptance, either. It was eroding due to how more of the media began to side with the Left during the Vietnam War. That was my introduction to the word propaganda. I hazily remember a dubious news story, and my mother saying “That’s propaganda.” Then she explained the meaning of the word.

              Nixon in ’72 had widespread support, but a lot of that was he wasn’t McGovern. Nixon loved an imperial presidency. He had Hail to the Chief played so much it became a running joke. When he would do lay-overs on the West coast instead of flying directly from Washington to China, that was seen as extravagance. There was a joke that Nixon intended to rent his burial plot because he thought he’d only be using it three days.

              Perhaps a better indicator is a couple of dogs my father had, named Ike and Nick, for Eisenhower and Nixon. True, that was the late 1950s, but his opinion didn’t change much. Yet I’m 99.99% sure he voted Nixon in 72.

              Note that you had your diehard Republicans who really liked the man. One, a family friend, was convinced an impersonator made the infamous tapes.

              As for the rest of us, when the news of Watergate broke, the media didn’t have to work hard to bring Nixon down. All they had to do was release the info and air the hearings live. Those of us who remember that have noted the media didn’t do the same for Hillary last year. And, like with Hillary, it wasn’t so much that we trusted the source, but that it fit how we already saw Nixon.

  6. In that spirit remember that Donald Trump is not an ideologue and grew up in a world in which being a leftist was virtue-signaling and status-signaling.

    This is perhaps the most amusing aspect of the Toddler Party’s tantrum. Trump is the Republican president most simpatico with their agenda since Eisenhower. By their hissy fit they have alienated him, pushed him further Right than he was ever likely to be drawn by conservatives. He may have shared their fundamental precepts but Trump has a notoriously thin skin and when attacked he does not doff his cap and respond, “Thank-you sir, may I have another?”

    • Trump hold grudges, nurses them long and then strikes slowly with great painfulness to his target. The media and the left could have had a lot of their agenda by being nice to Trump. Instead they have done their very best to utterly alienate him and assure that they he will never give the democrats or the media any support.

      The joke is that he would have been somewhat leftists if allowed but hey if the media and the progressive left want to play it this way.

      • 0bama insulted him heavily at the Press Dinner (2011 I think) to get back at Trump for his birther stuff he did to support Hillary, and someone said Trump has been plotting that revenge since.
        I learned the other day, he also registered “Make America Great Again” as a political slogan just after the 2012 election.

    • But what they wanted is a woman as president. He can’t give them that.

      • They might well have got it, had they not run the Wicked Witch of Endor as their candidate.

        Maybe they’ll run “chelsea” Manning in 2020…

        • As quickly as the Democrat Party is racing for the edge of the cliff, I wouldn’t wager against them doing just that.

        • Wicked Witch of Endor Eh? A little bit of mixing the King James ( Samuel)? and L. Frank Baum. But Where are Dorthy and that dratted tornado when you need them…

  7. What can I say? I agree with this whole analysis.

    The thing with the Electoral College is it’s only a problem if you think that the only legitimate basis for government is to put the entire population into a single huge pool and see who’s the majority in that pool. But there’s a structure called a federal state where you have multiple pools. If the way things turn out in those pools always works out to be the same as if you had a single pool, then you don’t have a federal state; you have a federal façade over a unitary architecture. If you have an actual federal architecture, then you sometimes get results that differ from the popular vote, and ARE MEANT TO. So do these people think that having a nonunitary state is always an illegitimate constitutional choice, and if so, do they think that Australia, Canada, Germany, and Switzerland (and perhaps others) are all illegitimate states?

    Apparently Clinton’s majority in California was larger than his majority nationwide. That is, if she got in on the basis of the popular vote, it would be because the vote in a single big state overwhelmed the combined votes of the other 49. That’s exactly what the Constitution was trying to prevent. It was seen as necessary back then because there were cultural and economic differences between the states; and those differences haven’t gone away. California is my homeland (in the sense you were discussion a few posts back) and I love it and would hate to leave it; but even if it were not afflicted with political lunacy (and getting steadily worse, it seems!), I don’t want to see it trampling the other states like that—not even if it were as a kind mistress of willing slaves, as Tolkien put it.

    • HRC won the popular vote by close to 3 million. If you disregard the California component Trump would have won popular by 1.5 million and still garnered enough EC to win the election.

      • And, interestingly, here in California there was *no* Republican candidate on the ballot in most Congressional districts (thank our top-two primary process coupled with extensive gerrymandering – in most districts the candidates were “left-of-center Democrat” or “way-left-of-center-Democrat”) while poll after poll showed that Clinton would win the state by a huge margin.

        Result: a lot of Republicans stayed home because they knew their vote would have absolutely zero effect on who became President (or went to Congress).

        Then add in that California has one of the least careful polling processes in the country – lots of absentee ballots, absolutely no citizenship check on registering to vote, and no ID required to vote if your name is registered. And at least one sitting member of Congress (Loretta Sanchez) almost certainly first won office thanks to this (1996 – the number of illegals shown to be voting in her district was almost several times larger than her margin of victory).

        Would Trump have won California without these? No – this is, on the whole, a very left-of-center state. Would he have overcome that 3 million vote margin? Probably not. Would that margin have been much smaller (say, similar to the percentages in New Jersey or Connecticut), and possibly less than a million? Almost certainly.

        • That’s why I had little hesitation in voting for Johnson (it would have been none had Johnson been a more credible candidate; he did an amazingly bad job of campaigning): I’m in a one-party state, so voting Democratic is unnecessary and voting for any other party is ineffective. I don’t think California will have two-party elections again unless the Greens step up their game a whole lot.

          • I’d have been seriously tempted to vote for Johnson except for the fact that, for a libertarian, he didn’t seem all that serious about liberty. About the only freedom I can say he was definitely in favor of was the freedom to smoke pot.

            • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

              About the only freedom I can say he was definitely in favor of was the freedom to smoke pot.

              That seems to be the main concern of the Libertarian Party. 😦

            • His fairly explicit wish to curtail religious freedom was a bit off putting. Not that the reinterpretation into “you are free to worship however you like but your actions must comport with contemporary shibboleths” was any different from the direction the Democrat Party has headed.

              Of course, once they’ve achieved that they will unceasingly criticize the religious as hypocritical for not putting their beliefs into actions.

              • Yeah, that was really bad; it turned me from an active supporter to thinking “Well, he’s not any worse than Clinton on that and on some issues he’s better.” As a lifelong atheist, I consider any attack on the right of Christians to live by their own moral convictions an attack on my right to do the same.

                Johnson sometimes gave me the impression that he had decided to campaign as a media libertarian—someone whose first point of reference was what the media would report as an acceptable position, not what was consistent with libertarian moral, legal, political, or economic principles. (Of course, if you have five libertarians in a room you have at least six different understandings of what those principles are. . . .) It might even have been a viable strategy for turning the LP into a party that actually won elections, though at the price of its being much less libertarian—if the two major parties and the media weren’t already cooperating to shut out the dissidents elements.

                • I forget whether I read it here first, or somewhere else, but it went something like this: The trouble with the Libertarian Party is you’ve got a whole bunch of people who don’t believe in government trying to figure out how to govern.

                  Some government is needed. How much is a matter of taste. If the feds power were restricted to what is ACTUALLY in the Constitution, I’d be happy, or happier. While the Constitution recognizes certain God given rights that the government is forbidden to intrude upon, if you read the founders other works, they recognize that the government they designed won’t work for every type of people. I don’t think there’s ever been an islamic republic in anything but name, for example. Our Constitution won’t work if islam is the basis for society. Wouldn’t have a chance of working in India either. Caste system is inimical to the spirit of the Constitution.

              • Recently have had one loftily “explain” to me that the Civil Rights Movement did not say that God supported certain legislative actions. In response to my explicitly pointing out when it did.

              • Johnson’s VP pick made me shudder.
                There was a definitive “Dollar Store Bernie Sanders” thing going on with that dude.

            • I as actually one of 44 voters in my precinct to (at least in my case) hold my nose and*) vote for Johnson. This because due to an analysis of previous elections, I figured Trump had no chance of winning here. As it turned out I was right with HRC garnering @ 68% of the precinct vote. Oddly, ‘my’ suburban Twin Cities, MN county went for Trump

              * I just wish Johnson, and more especially Bill Weld, had been more of ‘real’ libertarian.

              • So I’m a Massachusetts resident. Bill Weld was a tolerable governor, and relatively conservative (for Massachusetts) but a libertarian? Hell no. He is a heavy duty 2nd amendment hater and was in favor of the city side in Kelo Vs New London, I think he even had Massachusetts file an amicus brief on the New London side. There are times when eminent domain is appropriate but helping commercial developers against little old ladies is not one of them. And taking by force is SO not libertarian, anarchist, minarchist, whateverist. As noted Johnson was libertarian only in VERY limited ways(i.e. pot), Otherwise he was a RINO governor that did nothing at all libertarian and thought more government was a good idea. If I’m going to perform a senseless act I at least like it to be ideologically pure, so no didn’t vote for Johnson.

        • This is something that the California Republicans (both of ’em) need to be reminded of come 2020: vote even though you know it won’t affect your state’s electoral vote because it will obstruct the myth-making.

          If you cannot be motivated to turn out the vote by the prospect of making Liberals weep you don’t deserve to call yourself conservative.

          • I should note that I’ve never been a Republican.

          • how will that help if there is no republican on the ballot to vote for?They changed the rules so that it’s an ‘open primary’ and the top two vote getters go on the final ballot, even if they are both the same party.

            unless the republicans either have a pre-primary vote or resort to back-room dealing, the result is going to be like the last primary for Senator, two Democrats vs 5 Republicans in the primary, resulting in two democrats on the final ballot.

            and if they start doing back-room deals to decide to ends up on the ballot, they loose more of the little difference between them and the Democrats.

            • In spite of the California Democrat Party’s machinations, there is guaranteed to be at least one Republican candidate on the ballot — the presidential nominee. A vote for that candidate likely will not deliver the state’s electoral votes but it will reduce the margin of the Democrat candidate’s popular vote.

              It may not be much, but it ain’t nothing.

              • Also, imo if it’s a choice between voting for a Bay Area and a Dem from somewhere else in the state, I’ll make a point to cast a vote for the somewhere else Dem. The Bay Area Dems are the nuttiest of the lot, and they’ve currently got a lock on the state’s politics. That’s why I held my nose and voted for Sanchez.

        • Given that I still haven’t figure out how to get CA to stop sending me their voting stuff, and I haven’t lived in the state for nearly six years now, I would concur that the CA voter rolls are poorly managed.

          • When I was living and voting in Orange County, my parents were still getting voting materials for me in LA County.

        • I took to bringing out my ID when getting ready to vote during the last few years that we were still in California.

          Every time the poll workers looked like I’d sprouted a second or third head, before deciding to ignore everything and just hand me the voting booklet.

  8. I happened to time my drive home from work so I got to hear the swearing in (and protests). And to wonder who miked the Mormon Tabernacle Choir? No basses! Hello, y’all can do better. (I know, priorities bass-akward as usual.) And heard the protesters.

    Here the sun is shining, the wind is blowing 45 mph but without dust in the air, and life goes on.

    • No bass sound? From the MTC? Yeah that is a serious Charlie Foxtrot on the miking. There’s got to be like 40-50 basses in that 300+ member choir and every last one of them would give Paul Robeson a run for his money. Every singer in that choir is top notch because they get the pick of the Salt Lake City Mormon singers. Harder to get in there than to get into the Tanglewood Festival Chorus that sings with the BSO and Boston pops, and that ain’t easy.

  9. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

    To borrow from RES (in another thread).

    Thank G-D Hillary isn’t the New President. 😀

  10. “We have the BEST losers”

    Losers like you’ve never seen before! The best, greatest ones! Their losing is yuuge!

  11. Trump’s speech was really good. He wrote it himself. Though I didn’t trust him enough to vote for him (I voted Cruz, write-in), I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and watch and see if he honors his campaign promises.

    We’ll see!

    • What was most striking to me (by comparison, at least) in what we *didn’t* hear in Trump’s speech, but that was so common in Obama’s:

      Not a single reference to ‘I/Me/My’. I found it *very* refreshing.

      That he wrote it himself is just icing on the cake. 😉

      • And it was short. Of course, there’s still the State of the Union . . .

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

        Actually Trump did use “I” three times.

        Quotes

        “The oath I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans.”

        “I will fight for you with every breath in my body, and I will never, ever let you down.”

        End Quotes

        Much different than Obama’s use. 😉

        • What. No “I won. Deal with it.”?

          • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

            To be “fair”, I think Obama said that in direct discussions with Republican Leaders not in his inauguration speech. 😉

            On the other hand, I could be mistaken. 👿

            • IIRC it was the Republican Congresscritters as a whole, just after the election.

              Contrast that with W who made a surprise visit to the Dem congresscritters in an attempt to play nice.

  12. The emails might have been indirectly responsible for my voting for Trump. Like you, I couldn’t stand either candidate, but all the polls in September and October suggested that Hillary was going to win Colorado by 10 or 12 points, and with that kind of lead, I figured it didn’t matter what I did and I was free to vote my conscience. But right before I voted, I checked the polls again. This time, Hillary was up by 1. That changed the calculation. I wasn’t sure I could have lived with myself if Hillary had narrowly won the state (which she did), and I hadn’t voted for the candidate most likely to beat her.

    So the question then becomes, what caused that last minute shift in the polls? Was it the emails? Was it the reminder that not only was Hillary under FBI investigation, but she was closely tied to one of the most unsavory perverts of the 21st century (I’m going to put her husband in the category of perverts of the 20th century)? Or was it just that after X months of having her shoved in our faces, the American people remembered, “Oh, yeah. I can’t stand this woman”? Seems unlikely we’ll ever know for sure.

    • There has been a notable tendency for polls to “close” in the last few days of a campaign. The reasons for this are structural and psychological. The most often claimed reason is that the pollsters and their paymasters are prepping for their inspection rather than trying to move the voters — the actual polls will soon be available and they have to get their numbers close enough to the actual vote to protect their credibility.

      There is also the fact that the pollsters are better able to identify likely voters in the final days (although, as we have seen, even there they have problems.) Voters who sense they are going against the “approved” candidate are also less reticent about their intentions, becoming less shy.

      Historically there is also a tendency for late-deciding voters to shift against the (perceived) incumbent. The general idea is that such voters who have not been won by the incumbent are tottering between staying home (or leaving the ballot slot blank) and voting against the incumbent.

    • I don’t buy the nonsense that the release of the emails won Trump the election …

      To some extent those emails did loose them the election. The fact that they wrote those e-mails. They sent them out on an improper unsecured server. They failed to follow ever so many of the State Department protocols — of which it could be demonstrated they were cognizant. It threw a light on how the candidate managed all sorts of things.

      But never mind all that. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. They would have you believe that all the blame lies with the people who let it be know they had email problems. And the Russian (with whom their candidate announced they had pressed the reset button). And the Republicans. And the Tea Party. And the conservative media. And the all the various retrograde Neanderthal Americans. And, last, but not in any way least, particularly and especially with Trump.

      But never, now ever in any way will they admit that they loose the election because they ran a lousy campaign led by a troubled less than stellar candidate.

      • to be fair, there were two sets of e-mails

        1. the e-mails of the DNC showing how they rigged the primaries against Bernie, used racist and other ist language when they didn’t think anyone would know, etc.

        2. the e-mail server that Hillary setup to dodge Freedom of Information requests.

        The FBI investigation for for #2, the “Russian hacking” was for #1 (although they say that even with the data destruction that happened with #2, they found that at least 5 different organizations were in the server)

        It’s worth pointing out ever time this comes up that the issue with #1 was not someone attacking the server and breaking in due to a flaw in the software or configuration, but rather of a top-level person revealing to a bogus e-mail that his password was “password”

        • There were at least 5 different organizations in Hillary’s server that we know of. The e-mail server was housed on at least 3 different physical servers. When moving from one physical server to another it is common to discard most of the logs on the old server unless there is a data retention policy in place requiring that those logs be maintained. Thus is likely impossible to know when the first breach occurred, or exactly how many additional organizations might have compromised her server.

          • Actually, there’s no proof that Hillary’s server was ever breached. Everything we have is either from e-mails that were released, or that included Podesta as a recipient.

            Note that doesn’t mean that the server wasn’t hacked. There’s just no evidence of it. And Guccifer has apparently claimed that he did hack it.

            • Sorry, but there was evidence of multiple hacks of Hillary’s server, but the e-mails accessed from there were not put on wikileaks or otherwise released to the public. You are correct that the leaked e-mails that we saw were not from that server. But the FBI investigation of the last server she had reported found evidence of five different organizations on the system (and who knows how many others were on it, but didn’t leave enough evidence for them to find)

              I think it’s worth pointing out that people who hacked that server would have trivially been able to get the passwords of anyone accessing that system.

            • They were running an unpatched known vulnerable older version of IIS. Everyone is best off operating as if it was breached.

              • computer security is my day job, from everything I’ve read about it, any government agency on the planet that didn’t hack her server is incompetent (this includes our allies)

          • and since the entire purpose of the system was to bypass the data retention laws for official correspondence, they were ignoring the requirement to retain logs as well as everything else.

            Not that I would really trust logs on that system anyway. Once someone hacks a system, they can tamper with the logs there as well (there are ways to set things up to detect that they were tampered with, but that’s far more sophisticated than the person who was running the server would have done, as evidenced by the state of security on the server)

            P.S. computer security is my full-time job

  13. As far as whether Trump is a misogynist or not, well given my limited experience, I would say that he’s much like many of the European male leaders that I’ve heard about in my lifetime: very relaxed about both sexual morals and the sanctity of marriage vows. He likes beautiful women. He really likes seducing and having sex with beautiful women. But on the question of whether he’ll respect them in the morning…yeah, there isn’t enough salt in Utah to take that line with.

    • Unlike a certain former president (and would be first dude) I believe Trump shares Kipling’s view that a woman is only a woman, but a good Cigar is a Smoke.

    • I find am incapable of taking seriously “misogynism” complaints from the party of accused rapist Bill Clinton, Teddy “Chappaquiddick” Kennedy and Chris “Waitress Sandwich” Dodd.

      • And that’s just the highlights reel… Don’t look up Gore and his chakra…

      • Especially when the complaints are coming from people who kept a set of “Presidential” kneepads because abortion.

      • How many of the Oh So Righteous Hollywood types hate Trump because of his misogyny, yet actively support Roman Polanski?

        • That is different! Trump spoke metaphorically of so many women being hyergamous that they would practically allow a charismatic, powerful man to treat them like meat. It wasn’t as if he was a Hollywood director entitled to use a casting couch to ensure actresses (and actors) had screen presence.

          • Funny thing is, I’ve a friend of a friend story (which I’m inclined to believe) in which someone did exactly what Trump described. And the reason that I’m inclined to believe it is because the story wasn’t bragging about the guy’s ability to do so. It was a “you won’t believe how screwy these women are” type of story.

            (Now that I think about it, screwy might not have been the best word to use in this context; but I’m leaving it there anyway)

            • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

              There may have been more but the only “story” about Trump and “sexual harassment” was the complaint of the female porn star who was insulted by Trump after he invited her to his hotel room.

              The “insult” was that he tried to kiss her.

              Come on, you make your living “selling sex” and a rich man invites you to his room?

              What should she expect?

              Him asking her for financial advice? 👿

            • I would view the MSM “interpretation” of Trump’s hypergamy argument with more concern were I not aware of the view held by many women that men come with convenient handles for ease of manipulation.

      • Just before the election, I posted a comment on Facebook pointing out that we were confronted with a decision about whether to let a known misogynist into the White House.

        Then I added, “But enough about Bill Clinton.”

    • … and on that basis, if I were a woman, I wouldn’t sleep with Donald Trump.

      But he wasn’t running for the job of “my lover.” He was running for the job of “President of the United States of America.”

      The requirements of the two posts are different.

      • Bingo. I don’t care for his personal conduct in certain areas. But voting for president is not The Dating Game, despite how some pundits and commentators act some days.

        • All things being equal, I would prefer a president whose personal demeanor corresponded to the office. All things were not equal.

  14. Well, if he can deliver on a portion of what he outlined in that speech … then, good to go. Talk about a rebuke to Obama and SJWs everywhere.

    I watched the live-stream with my daughter. Looks like he is laying off the hair dye and the tanning stuff, which is all to the good. And Michelle was scowling to beat the band every time the camera caught her! Mike Pence came off very well, too.

  15. On last point: on stupid lines uttered by Leftists since the election. My “favorite” has got to be the one about how Democratic senate candidates got more votes than Republican senate candidates in 2016, so clearly “most” people wanted the Dems to control the senate (and so the Repubs had better go along with that). It’s hard to ennumerate all the stupid crammed into that single line but to hit the top three:

    One: Texas, the largest Republican state, had no senate election this year, but California, the largest Democrat state, did. That’s going to skew the numbers.

    Two: Said election in California featured two Democratic candidates with no Republican. Thus, at least some of the D votes were probably by Republicans voting for the lesser of two evils.

    Three: THE SENATE WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE SHELTERED FROM “MOMENTARY PASSIONS” OF ONE ELECTION CYCLE, YOU MORONS. WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE FOR THE SENATE IN ONE ELECTION IS LIKE BEING PETA’S FAVORITE STEAKHOUSE: TOTALLY MEANINGLESS GIVEN THE PURPOSE OF THE INSTITUTIONS.

    Ahem. Sorry about the momentary slip into caps lock, but sometimes the idiocy brings it out.

    • Actually, the Senate was designed to be divorced from *any* election cycle. That Senators have become some sort of SuperRepresentatives is a result of one of the three Really Bad Things for American Liberty that occurred in 1913, the adoption of the 17th Amendment to the Constitution which eliminated the appointment of Senators by the various State governments. But maybe that’s what you were saying and I’m too dense to detect it.

  16. For a change, I have a bit more hope than I did for the last eight years.

  17. Trump was sworn in and the world didn’t end. Now back to your work and start winning.

  18. This calls to mind reading once an atheist who said he liked Pope JPII because he p*ssed off all the right people. Trump appalls me on many levels – but man, does he make exactly the right heads explode. Over and over. One can hope – hey, it’s cheap to hope – that perhaps having one’s head explode might just open up the mind inside? A little?

    Never had a more grim voting experience, even knowing, out here in California, that it doesn’t much matter how I vote. But, yea, cautiously optimistic.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

      that perhaps having one’s head explode might just open up the mind inside?

      We can hope but we can also hope that having one’s head explode might leave them dead. 👿

      • Please, no. I live downwind of Berkeley…

        • Context counts – it’d be the smell of victory.

            • Probably a decent story here: the day after Trump, I dunno, abolishes the Department of Education and yanks all government funding from schools while shooting pool with Putin on his yacht and flicking a booger at a NYT reporter, a few homeless people and cops are the only ones left alive in a Berkeley littered with the headless, messy remains of 98% of the population.

              They can’t bury them all. Tough decisions must be made. After going through their pockets and ‘liberating’ their BART passes, they commandeer some Priuses, collect the dead, and stack the corpses like cordwood in the local Whole Foods. Soaking them in patchouli oil, they set them alight as a giant funeral pyre.

              Watching at a safe distance as the scent of roasting arugula and long pig envelops them to the sound of exploding bottles of probiotics, the few survivors are left to ponder: how did things go so wrong? So much promise! So much energy! So much government money funding an intellectual Disneyland! Pensively, the cops and homeless shake their heads, then jump in a Humvee and head out to Stockton to grab some big-ass corn-fed Iowa beef steak, medium-rare.

              • Now…why waste such resources? I’m sure there are pig farmers somewhere nearby that could put all that freely-available protein to good use…

                • Pig farmers in California are highly regulated by means of a constitutional amendment passed via popular vote on a measure put on the ballot a couple years ago using the state’s Proposition clause – I kid you not. Pig farmers must let the bacon run freeeeee! (so that the mamas can kill and eat their own, like free pigs everywhere.)

                  It would no doubt cause outrage if the remains of the People’s Republic of Berkeley were fed to the swine – because it’s cruel, somehow, to the swine.

                  • You know, it’s become nearly impossible to parody the leftists anymore…no matter what you make up, it’s not extreme enough that they haven’t already done it somewhere.

    • I’m somewhat convinced he has a precisely calibrated squirrel cannon he keeps in his bedroom closet, and every morning when he wakes up he hauls it out to fire off a couple of volleys, just to see whose heads explode.

      I really shouldn’t laugh, but its just such a bizarre thing to see in action. The meme is he’s the crazy one, yet it’s always someone else losing the marbles over it. Where our last president mostly sneered at people he didn’t want in the “in” club, this one throws out bait, and lets his opponents self-destruct on it.

      The moral of this story is, if you come under his guns, watch yourself so he doesn’t bait you too.

      • > squirrel cannon

        I predict that one is going to make the rounds of the web… at least, I plan to pass it on!

  19. I think his appointments to date show he’s not going to default left on anything. Which is something I was fearful of. If Pryor is his SC appointment, well, that will further demonstrate that. And Drudge noted that as of today ALL references to climate change have been removed from the White House website. As of noon.

    • I assume Trump had a new website built for whitehouse.gov sometime in November, December, or early January, and simply replaced the existing website with his new website sometime between noon and 12:30, when my facebook feed started freaking out about climate change being gone.

      • Climate change, LGBT rights, and any number of other Progressive bête noires and cause célèbres have disappeared from the White House web site like the unimportant distractions or meaningless vapor they should be treated as.

        (How does one pluralize in English a French term that’s made its way in to common English usage?)

        • However you feel like.

          • Webster says bête noire/bêtes noires, and cause célèbre/causes célèbre. That’s a mark either of their not having fully assimilated into English or their being used only by people who have a measure of familiarity with foreign languages. By comparison, people say either “attorneys general” or “attorney generals,” but no one ever says “lieutenants general.”

            Then there are words that take different plurals in different meanings. For example, you look things up in indexes, but you give mathematical expressions indices. The one has assimilated fully, but the other remains a learned word.

            (I’m a copy editor. The baseline correct answer for me, professionally, is “whatever it say in Merriam-Webster/the Concise Oxford.”

      • That you assume that the Trump admin did a Whitehouse.gov that reflects their priorities shows that you are a person of sense, unlike the many members of the press who thought this was a vast scandal. In point of fact, it was announced ahead of time. Not only that, but the upcoming change was highlighted on WhiteHouse.gov on January 17. This somehow escaped the notice of layers of editors and fact-checkers, along with the fact that the National Archives are maintaining the old version at ObamaWhiteHouse.gov.

        I can certainly understand individuals not knowing about it, but that most of the media didn’t know and joined in the freakout is shameful.

  20. We’ve had a dense fog for the past three days, and I’ve had a toothache for all that time. Coincidence? I think not.

    As far as the new administration, I remain cautiously optimistic.

    • Toothaches one of the maladies that never gets enough sympathy.
      Address to a toothache
      From Robert Burns

      My curse upon your venom’d stang,
      That shoots my tortur’d gums alang,
      An’ thro’ my lug gies mony a twang,
      Wi’ gnawing vengeance,
      Tearing my nerves wi’ bitter pang,
      Like racking engines!

      There’s more if you can ken a wee bit of Scots dialect
      http://www.robertburns.org/works/138.shtml
      Somewhere also there’s a setting of it to modern atonal music that fits it so well.

  21. Beware Facebook

  22. I am cautiously optimistic–

  23. The morning dawned dark and damp and gloomy. Gray clouds hung over southwest Ohio. And then at noon, the clouds began to break up somewhat, and sun began to shine through. Two hours later, rays of sunlight were streaming down through a multitude of breaks on the clouds, casting a purifying light upon the world around me. Coincidence? 🙂

    The weather was very mild today, if a bit damp in the early hours. I found this surprising. I’d been assured it would be a cold day in hell before Donald Trump became president. 😛

    Now, I’m still not a big fan of President Trump, but so far he continues to seem a better choice than his general election opponent. I am cautiously optimistically. And I wish him all the best. If he is less good than I’ve hoped, and better than I’ve feared, I shall still count that as best as we can expect at this time. At least he believes in America.

  24. “The weather was very mild today, if a bit damp in the early hours. I found this surprising. I’d been assured it would be a cold day in hell before Donald Trump became president.”

    The implication of this seems to be that southwest Ohio is actually Hell (or at least shares it weather).

  25. Lots of comedy in the music picked by various marching bands. “Hard Times Come Again No More” played by a pipe and drum band while Obama was leaving the White House, for instance.

    • Now I’m curious what the other songs were, but can’t find it on a google search. Just a bunch of idiots belly aching about Trump having ANY musicians play.

      • I was pleased by the Piano Guys argument for why they should perform.

        I was dismayed that death threats against Andrea Bocelli were considered sufficiently credible for him to cancel (or that he felt the need to claim they were.)

      • I read that Sam Moore, of the Sixties soul duo Sam and Dave, sang “America the Beautiful.” See Brietbart.

  26. When I read your comment about Hillary:
    snip:
    She’s either malicious or not minimally competent.
    /snip

    …I feel compelled to say (in my best Robin Williams/’traveling tent revival preacher’s voice’):

    “Embrace the healing power of *and* !!!”

    Yeah. I’m bad that way. Usually I keep that kinda thing to my self, and people wonder why I sometimes have this odd smile on my face. Here, I’m not so reticent to turnoff the filters…

    Thank you and all the regulars here that help me feel more comfortable being a kind of an ‘odd’, and that there are places (besides at cons) where I can feel at home.

    • Reverend Earnest Angry. “Ah want you to grab the back o’ yo TV set and FEEL the Holy Power of Electricity kick yo ass across the room!”

      From “Reality, What A Concept!”

      Pauses. It’s kind of creepy that I know these things…

  27. If I’ve learned one thing from this elections, it’s that there are a whooooole lot of people who don’t know what ‘fascist’ means.

    • Why, it means “that which some leftist doesn’t care for.” Did I win?

    • Isn’t it just a generic descriptor of people who are not nice?
      /sarc off

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

      I’ve know that for years. 😦

      • I knew it was bad, but daaaaamn I had no idea the problem was of this magnitude.

        The thing that kills me is that this massive misuse is coming from people who claim they’re more educated and are members of the so-called elite.

        Projection, all the way down. As usual.

    • Orwell had it pegged decades ago as meaning, “Something not desirable.”

      • I think it means they imagine themselves too grown up to get away with calling people “poopy-heads.”

        How deplorable.

        Breaking News: This just in — analysts have reviewed the evidence now that there is a new administration and concluded that Judge Posner is still a moron.

      • Or to be more precise Doubleplusungood.

  28. The kicker for shoving me out of the “Never Trump” camp was a commercial Hillary did this summer. In it, she outlined her economic plan, which was basically “take the money from the evil rich and give you all free s#!+. And if those evil rich try to leave, we’ll tax them even more!”

    At that point, there was no way in the world I could not vote against her. Since Florida is a swing state, I had to vote for Trump.

    So far, so good

  29. Trump’s election has already benefited California, though Democrats will never admit it.

    Since he became President-elect, we’ve had some decent rainfall in SoCal. It hasn’t ended the drought, but I think it’s helping.

    Clearly, the rain is due to sympathetic magic from all the liberal tears. We really should trigger their tears more often, for Mother Gaia.

    • If it’s triggering you want, there was this piece over on EveryJoe today…

      Okay, I must admit, I did not want Trump, and intend to watch his actions carefully… But I am REALLY EFFING PLEASED that Hillary LOST. And if it’s triggering you want to effect, this’ll do it, like as not.

      Link to original piece here. I think the montage to the Les Miserables “Do You Hear The People Sing” was a nice touch, too.

    • Uh, they said the drought was officially over something like a week ago, here.

      • Hmmm… I must have missed that. Last I heard is that Northern California was okay but Southern California wasn’t quite out of the woods yet.

        I guess Trump’s election was even more traumatic than I thought.

        • Well, yeah, the Southern Californians are more hot and bothered by Trump than those in the north, so require more water. 😛

          • Don’t get me (or other Northern Californians) started on Southern California’s water use. “Wasteful and stupid” is being kind.

            • Actual news footage from California (according to CNN*):


              *I keed, I keed — you won’t find actual news on CNN.

              • Laddie Don’t you mean that’s from Scotland? Though I remember no Civic shaped islands in Loch Ness..

              • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

                And the Liberals will want to continue the flooding to protect Nessie. 👿

                • Aye Nessie is clearly an endangered species. Although somehow she/he/it (might have to ask it for its pronoun) has been kicking around for the better part of a century or more.

    • It started raining pretty much right after the election. I was amused.

  30. +1 to not being ruled by California.

  31. Christopher M. Chupik

    It was the custom of the Romans, during triumphs, to have a slave remind the one being honored that they were still mortal. For the inauguration, I would have had someone whisper in Trump’s ear: “Trump Steaks”.

  32. Half my classes were gone today either being lazy, watching the inauguration, or attending it live. Honestly, until someone mentioned it to me, I forgot about it. Yeah, it’s cool that Obummer’s gone, but I doubt that Trump will have that much of an effect on my life overall.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      But Susannah, the government is supposed to be involved in every aspect of your life! Unless the government is being run by the Right People, how can you function?

    • That;s the hope. Ideally, in a republic with limited government, you should have less interest in who’s in charge of the executive branch than you do in who’s chairman of the board at Walmart.

  33. Captain Comic

    It’s been eight hours and Trump hasn’t delivered. Time for that impeachment…

    And a happy thought Ace at Ace of Spades has been sharing for ten weeks: Hillary Clinton will never be president.

    Hahhhh….that feels good.

    • Christopher M. Chupik

      He must be impeached for being elected! All the Dems need is the support of Congress and the Senate . . .

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

      I think it’s unlikely that the Democratic Party would support another attempt because they haven’t supported candidates who lost to the Republican once.

      But she may be insane enough to try. 😦

    • Yep, I’m going to predict that the Clintons are pretty much politically dead at this point. The foundation is drying up- what exactly can they do for the next four years?- and the multi-thousand dollar speech opportunities with it.
      Former President Obama will stick around as the go-to guy for the media to get anti-Trump quotes from.
      The media knows that the biggest problem with the Clinton 2016 ticket was Hillary, and that they worked overtime to put an extraordinarily unqualified person in office. Keeping her around is a reminder of their part in promoting that unlikable hag.

      They may trot Hillary out in 2020 for old times sake, but she’ll be last, and out by the third or fourth primary.

      • Well, they are actually shutting the Foundation down, and killing the global initiative.

      • Also, Obama is going to be far less important than he thinks he will be. Obama has a massive ego and imagines that he’s still someone of immense influence; I don’t think it’s fully registered on him that, with NO national office, he has no real power any more.

        • GUYS SOMEHOW AUSTRALIA IS NOW PART OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
          http://www.smh.com.au/video/video-news/video-world-news/thousands-protest-trump-at-sydney-sister-march-20170121-4pmu8.html

          “Not our president” signs protesting… Trump presidency.

          So when are y’all visiting? I’m sure driving to the new state is cool,right? Right?

          (To the inevitable retard who takes this seriously: this is an example of sarcasm and mockery.)

          • Does that mean I don’t need a passport?

            And we must have blown past 57 states without any notice….. 😎

            • I guess the Philippines and the UK are also part of the USA now as well. Why in the everbleeding fuck they are protesting with “not my president” is beyond me. Duterte is the Philippines’ Prez and they still have a constitutional monarchy in the U.K. soooo …

              And the shit they scream about building bridges and demanding equality nao! makes me think they wanna pretend they are in a Middle Eastern hellhole like Saudi Arabia but without the actual risk of being rounded up and shot en masse for rioting against the government. Which is what would happen if they actually tried it in any of the mideastern countries except Israel; or say any South American socialist state or anywhere in Africa.

              Idiots.

              • Oddly, that is also what Trump said in his inaugural address: he is not their president, he’s America’s president.

                Geeze, not in office a half hour and already he was bridging gaps across the world. Colour me imprest.

                • And had people throwing away their citizenship to join the USA so they can bitch and moan about him!

                  Funny realisation moment: The Philippines has the ‘one man, one vote’ thing the Democrats are whinging about.

                  But yeah, I loved that speech, and that part had me clapping. Of course, the screeching horde ignored everything and just heard “against radical Islamic terrorism” and went “HE WILL PUT US ALL TO THE SWORD! WE MUST BEAT HIM THERE!”

                  Oh and their antics would not be appreciated in the Philippines. The only bloody revolution we had was the first one. The other two were bloodless, and the latter two were the overthrow of an actual dictator, and an actual corrupt President.

                  For what it’s worth, I think Trump and Duterte will establish cordial relations since they have a LOT in common. Obama did lots of damage to that; though in fairness, Aquino was breathtakingly incompetent; to the point we probably would have cheerfully traded him for Obama.

              • Why in the everbleeding **** they are protesting with “not my president” is beyond me.

                This is one of the ways nature says “Do not touch.”

              • I think we’d be happy to take Australia as a few more states. The Philipines, too. Though given that we had to (voluntarily) give them up last time we owned them, I don’t think the locals would go for it.

                An e-mail group that I’m a member of used to have a filipino who would frequently go off-topic posting massive anti-US screeds calling modern Americans evil because of things that happened back when the US took control of the islands and violently put down some local resistance.

                He also posted his comments in a single massive paragraph written in obvious English as a second language with no punctuation or capitalization. And he took it as a grievious insult when people pointed out that he really needed to use periods if he expected people to read his wall of text rants.

          • If you want in, we’ll take you.
            And that will be the first step to in the EVIL plan to unify the Anglosphere
            MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

            • I saw the video and went upstairs to tell the men that apparently Australia is USA now becoming state number 51. Cue flat “what.” And then I told them what the passel of ninnies were up to. Resulted in sputtering then swearing at stupid people. The only consolation is that there are no riots like in the US and if there were those would be met with lots of arrests; and probably the local populace beating the shit out anyone who tried to pull that nonsense here.

              Someone went amok in Melbourne same day as swearing in. Ran down several people killing 5 after basically driving in circles in the middle of an intersection. Some random dude tried to stop him by attacking with a bat as the driver had a window open; nearly got run over.

              The thing that baffles us here is; why is it allowed to escalate so much? I mean shouting slogans and all sure; but the blocking people from getting to the security checkpoints and the assaults and breaking stuff… that’s not free speech. Nor is encouraging random assaults and vandalism.

              The thing that gives me a bit of worry is that these violent agitators seem to want to try start a civil war; echoing events from when Lincoln won.

              • A big chunk of the reason is that major cities are run by Democrats, and they are on the same side.

                • That, and the protests aren’t that widespread, and to be honest the rest of the country doesn’t care if the cities do burn.

                  • Ha! I envision people setting up Escape from New York esque barricades around the ones which do get out of control.

                    • The author Larry McMurtry owned a bookstore in D. C. for a number of years in the 70s-80s. He opined that the “purpose of the Beltway was to keep common sense from leaking in from the country at large.” [from his book _Roads_]. I’ve heard a few people talking about diverting the Patomac and flushing DC, except that it would undo all the hard work of restoring the Chesapeake Estuary for fish and oysters.

                • This. The people in power at the local level are supported by people who view the rioters as brave freedom fighters (presumably from a distance).

                  If it were those racist homophobic Republicans rioting, though, then hammers would be dropped post-haste.

              • Patrick Chester

                Well… Texas was an independent republic before becoming a state of the union. I’m sure it might be possible for all the Australian states (and Canadian provinces, etc.) to join the USA. 😉

                Though you are correct: It’s rather obvious that they do want to start a civil war and they come up with the lamest excuses for why… and it’s obvious they do not know what sort of hell that will turn into. 😦

          • For some reason that reminded me of a comment on BIX, circa 1989… [digs around a dusty old subdirectory for a few minutes]

            Reminds me of a classmate in a high school Earth Science class. One of the questions on a quiz was “Water is found in what three states?” He nudged his neighbor and whispered “Is there water in Utah?”

            [the magpie mind sees, snips, and saves…]

          • Patrick Chester

            I’m going to guess Trump isn’t Australia’s Prime Minister either. Glad they noticed.

        • He still has his phone and his pen and, while it is likely fewer of his calls will get answered, I do not doubt the NY Times and Washington Post will happily run any editorials he submits.

  34. Chris Hibbert

    > In that spirit remember that Donald Trump is not an ideologue
    > and grew up in a world in which being a leftist was virtue-signaling
    > and status-signaling.

    Thanks for that point. I’ve tried to point out to various leftists that they’re making a mistake assuming that deep down he’s really a right-wing ideologue. I thought the evidence of his historic positions meant he was a leftist first, but I think you’re right that he was always unmoored politically.

    The character he played during the campaign was on the right, but I don’t think that gives us much evidence about his actual beliefs, if he has any. His proposed appointments so far are a mixed bag of serious reformers (some even with libertarian cred) and fat cats of various stripes. Several of them have staked out positions that don’t coincide with Trump’s campaign stances. I keep telling people to wait and see, but they’re in a huge hurry to screech about how bad it’s going to be.

    • The fat cats are his business cronies from way back, as fat as I can tell. I don’t have any particular problem with that; between the “NeverTrump” Republicans, the Democrats, and the established civil service bureaucracy, I’d look outside the Beltway for talent too.

  35. Sad news on a happy day: Larry Smith of Larry Smith Books has passed away suddenly, of an aortic aneurysm. If you want to send a sympathy card, the Patricia Dr. address for the business is also the family house.

  36. > Remember no matter who you
    > voted for, the government got in.

    I found a couple of “Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers” comic compilations, which I’ll go through when I get a chance. I’m pretty sure it was there that I originally saw that.

  37. Christopher M. Chupik

    This tweet seems appropriate:

    • There used to be a novelty T-shirt with the seal of the Internal Revenue Service and the words: “IRS: We got what it takes to take what you got!”

      Who needs grammar when you have stormtroopers and your own courts…

    • I read, shortly after the election, someone cheering that certain computer professionals were pledging not to gather racial data that the Trump administration used, and a commenter worrying that that meant they wouldn’t have the racial data to discriminate themselves — though, being a good leftist, didn’t call her discrimination by that name.

      • Our Federal government requires a lot of this collection. Always struck me as ironic when the intent is supposedly to fight racism.

        • Good old Form 4473 has gotten pretty strange recently. Now they have:

          10.a. Ethnicity
          __ Hispanic or Latino
          __ Not Hispanic or Latino

          10.b. Race (In addition to ethnicity, select one or more races in 10.b. Both 10.a. and 10.b. must be answered)
          __ American Indian or Alaska Native
          __ Asian
          __ Black or African American
          __ Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander
          __ White

          Exactly what this has to do with a Federal Firearms Transfer under the Gun Control Act of 1968 escapes me…

  38. As I told Don over at insty. Great, Their guy one, great, good for them. Now, unlike many others (like say, the left) I’ll be very happy if Trump proves me very wrong, and even comes vaguely close to being “A new Reagan” but even if you believed he really was, it is now your duty to make well and damned sure he does the job even half as well as you claim he would. See, the Trumpettes need to get that the wronger I am, the happier I will be. Unless he unseats 0bama(or Carter) as lowest order scum, then I will still be wrong (I really don’t think he will work that hard at being that effing wrong) but I will hold no joy in their being wrong as well. So far, (cabinet picks et al) he has done better than I expected.

  39. This is why our nation’s Founders wanted to avoid democracy:

    One Anonymous Trump Supporter Showed the Lawless Left What Democracy Looks Like
    By Jeremy Carl — January 21, 2017

    It’s an inevitable feature of left-wing protests everywhere. As they debase our political discourse with their absurd outrage theater and riots du jour you can count on some of them yelling out “This is what democracy looks like!”

    And so it was hardly surprising that at the Trump inauguration, in which more than 200 violent leftist rioters were arrested, several blocks of Washington D.C. were damaged, and Trump supporters were physically attacked, we heard the chant going up again—this time by protestors who were attempting to block citizens from attending the inauguration to celebrate another successful transfer of power from one president to the next.

    A Trump supporter attempting to run the blockade shot back a perfect rejoinder. Pointing to the other side of the fence he was attempting to get to while protesters blocked his way shouting: “This is what Democracy looks like!” he said: “This is what democracy looks like, but I can’t get to it because of you!”

    [SNIP]

    … there is a lesson that Trump’s election should teach us. Anyone who was at the GOP convention saw his numerous tributes to law and order. And anyone who watched him during the campaign saw that one of Trump’s greatest strengths, the main thing that drew otherwise skeptical conservatives to his camp, was his fearlessness in confronting leftist thuggery and refusing to play political games according to the left’s rules.

    [SNIP]

    … the bigger challenge is to fearlessly defend the President and his agenda even when he is unpopular. When we find ourselves criticizing the administration, we need to ask ourselves whether we are really speaking truth to power or just courting “respectability”– defending a sort of ethereal philosophical conservatism that has no contact with political reality. It’s easy to look like a “good” conservative and join the coalition of the housebroken. But Trump won because, for whatever his other faults, this was the one thing he absolutely refused to do.

    [SNIP]

    This is what democracy looks like: Two parties honestly contesting for and advocating their values and principles; Not one party advocating its principles while the other cowers in the corner afraid that they might be called a mean name. The first one hundred days of this administration are going to present incredible opportunities for conservatives if we are bold enough to take them. And, like the anonymous Trump supporter, we need to call out the left without apology if they resort to lawless attempts to block our way.