Two days ago I I wrote about tribalism and said tribalism always loses to the Western association by affinity (no, this is not tribalism.) and allegiance to nation states. There was the usual skepticism in response because tribalism confers advantages if not punished, in an otherwise civilized society. Note the begs.
I didn’t have time to unpack it in that post which was already overlong and besides it was close to two am when I was writing it, so I shall unpack now.
The reason for that great demon of the left “Western Colonization” is… tribalism. No, not tribalism on the part of westerners. Tribalism on the part of the various barbaric civilizations subjugated by the west.
To explain: we’re usually given a picture of westerners descending on poor unarmed savages, sometimes sweet and peaceful ones (ah!) and just being evil and warlike and subjugating them that way.
To unpack both the myth of the noble savage and the myth of “there was no war before civilization” would take far longer than I have on this post, though I will allude to the second, because it’s still a favorite of (of course) leftist anthropologists. Also, painfully, horribly wrong.
The truth is that at the time the Europeans didn’t have a great advantage in weapons over the savages. Oh, they had muskets but seriously, those things had a tendency to misfire and weren’t particularly accurate. And in their homelands the tribal cultures had by far an advantage of numbers. If you read some of the early battles, you see how close it all was.
It wasn’t — technologically — civilized meaning poor innocent barbarian. No, it was humans at nearly the same technological method and the ones who won — consistently — did so due to the superiority of the software-in-head.
So, let’s get into this as fast as possible. The tribe in the sense of the tribalism I’m talking of is a natural consequence of us being Great Apes (yes, yes, I know. At best moderately good apes.) All great apes live in bands, though what the bands are like, how organized and who gets to get Jiggy with whom in the band varies greatly among the ape species.
The bands are an outgrowth of “family group” of course, and all bands are at least in theory and perception related. (Perception? Well, at least in chimps as in humans perception doesn’t always match what’s on the can, since at least some observers claimed chimps have an issue with female infidelity also known as “randy chimp chicks sneaking out to get jiggy with boys from the other band” in my totally scientific summary of the studies.)
For humans, the oldest, most isolated stuff we’ve found from the dawn of civilization does seem to bear (keep in mind there are very few remains actually found and even fewer that can be dna-tested) the idea of family groups sometimes very large family groups living together. And some of it is horrifying, though completely in keeping with “these things go on in ape bands” like the settlement where there was only one adult male, several adult females, several children. And some of the adult females were the daughters of the male, and some of the children were both his children and grandchildren in one.
Note my caveat about the paucity of finds. The fact is we don’t know if these were typical things or if we stumbled on the home of the Neolithic Jim Jones equivalent. (But we do know that sort of mating was considered sacred by several near east cultures, including the civilized (by living standards) Egyptians. So, you know, there is every possibility is is the enshrining as better and pure of an old and widespread practice as “the one true way to live, because our ancestors did so.” (And a good reason to at a minimum be skeptical of all such appeals.))
Sometime during the long road to civilization, probably during the hunter-gatherer period — least of all because if it had continued in tiny highly incestuous groups we’d each have more than three eyes and countless toes. Also possibly tentacles — the bands coalesced into tribes.
The way to do this usually was to claim or obtain kinship. Obtain? Well, when your band conquered the other band and killed their great inseminator and any boys likely to look like they’d like to inseminate someone, you then impregnated their women, creating real kinship. For another the boys kicked out of the band by the great inseminator obviously at some point formed a band of bachelors and swore brotherhood (or were all brothers, which is highly likely) and in the dark of night descended on another band, killed their great inseminator and divided his women between themselves. This also formed tribes of kinship. Which had a great advantage over the one-man-band (you knew I was going to make that joke!) because there were brothers to hunt with you. So more mammoths, more happily fed women and way more babies. The idea of the tribe/large kinship group/more loosely associated than the family was a survival enhancing innovation and would therefore grow.
Just so stories? Likely, and not the only route. OTOH we have lots of fossilized myths (in primitive wedding ceremonies, for one) of bands of young men kidnapping the bride(s). They are as recent as the legend of the founding of Rome.
Were there other ways to do it? Sure. The myths of the world give us hints of this other way. See all the tiresome infidelities of Zeus/Jupiter. You could claim that your god is the child of our god, and therefore you’re our cousins, and why don’t you join our hunt.
There is at least one theory of the spread of Indo European culture that leans heavily on “They told the BEST stories.” I leave it as a reader exercise why I adore this theory while being agnostic on its veracity or even plausibility.
At a more advanced level there was probably peaceful woman-exchanging. “We give you our daughters, you give us your daughters. We are now cousins.” Perhaps anticipating the blood kinship a little.
Now knowing our species, bloody in thought and deed, I would tend to assume barring the occasional miracle most of those exchanges took place after an endless war had made both bands so exhausted they were on the verge of extinction/disbanding or at least seriously hungry.
Which brings us to that war thing. It might be true (though it depends on the numbers and time period, since the neolithic covers an AWFUL long time) that primitives don’t war in ranks, with discipline, meeting the enemy on the battlefield. In fact, we know they mostly don’t both from legends as widespread as the Americas and Ireland.
It takes a relatively civilized state to field “soldiers” even if only temporarily and the places that first managed it for their places became very successful and fearsome. (Aztecs, anyone? Civilization is relative.)
But war? War was with us. What it was was what we’d call “raids”. We find the results of such massacres, mostly women and children killed in horrible ways. And we know them from the colonization of the Americas and Africa at a relative recent remove.
From reading the history of those, it seems clear that the reaction of a primitive tribal culture to another tribe intruding on their territory is to go all out and commit atrocities.
The atrocities are of such level that at one time it was wondered if Amerindians and various African tribes (notably the Zulus, themselves already a super-tribe and relatively civilized) were even human or had souls. This was not because as the sappy left thinks “they were darker and people were racist.” That’s bullshit. It was because they would descend on isolated family groups and small settlements, kill everything male, rape everything female (and take them away, though sometimes killing them if they resisted too hard), splatter blood and body parts all over in grotesque and horrible ways, sometimes mutilating the captives or killing the youngest and most helpless in the most horrific ways.
For the tribe this was perfectly licit. In every tribe it is understood “we’re humans, the others aren’t.” And they killed animals all the time, sometimes for fun. (Chimps do too.)
So, you know? That’s what they did. And they’d continue doing it until the other band was subjugated (their males all killed) or ran away.
Sometimes this went the other way. If your band of braves was intruding on a tribe’s territory and you wanted them to be subjugated or run away, you committed atrocities. LOTS.
The atrocity had to be very atrocious because the more bizarre outlandish and out there the attack was, the more likely the other tribe would withdraw rather than fight back.
How atrocious did things get? Well…. a modern day example would be the events in Israel on 10/7 when Palestinians, a willfully re-barbarized people partly due to living from grift from civilized people, which is a very tribal strategy of survival, unleashed their neolithic savage. This btw is the reason they thought they were doing great and glorious deeds and that it would lead to immediate victory. Because once you run howling back into the ancient beast in your brain, you fall back into its ways.
And the reaction of the world over the next week (yes, we’ve lost that since then, and more on it later because it’s the crux of our problem and why the solution is not “do a tribalism.”) was what the reaction of the civilized usually is.
And the reason tribal cultures always lose. Always. Not even a little.
It’s like this, at some point in the long march of civilization, codified by Rome, solidified by Judeo Christianity whose philosophical underpinnings say all children of Adam are humans, the idea of tribe faded. No, it didn’t go away. It’s a very old part of the human brain and the beast keeps rearing its head and being exploited by those who want power. But it receded.
Eventually normal, well brought up people in England, could — say — look at the picture of a Dutch, French or Spanish child and see… a child, not a prey animal. (Again see not always, but most of the time.)
The problem, then, that the barbarians did what they always did and killed an isolated group, and didn’t realize the news spread across the world (okay, the printing press helped) and they were suddenly called into question as humans, and people decided to stop them by all means necessary. And they had the advantage of fielding organized and well trained armies. (Though the Zulus and the Aztecs had that too, honestly.)
The routing of the tribal cultures was so complete that they were pretty much eliminated in their original form. Oh, yes, I do know the tribes technically exist. One of my friends is a tribal member. But they wear clothes, they use computers, they communicate partly (at least) in Western languages and they live Westernized lives.
The software in the head, though, is often still the old tribal beast. As is the software in the heads of a lot of the rebarbarized west.
For the west the tribalism crept back in with Marxism. And it’s hilarious because you can see its waves. It started with that angry ink-blot’s, Marx’s belief that “classes” were tribes. This was not only laughable, but World War I showed that nation-states (which succeeded and absorbed the concept of kingship. Again, not enough room to unpack here) trumped “classes.” And no, the “Class” thing was not going to unite workers across the world. So Marxism was reconnected to please the old beast more. Instead of classes, the groups Marxists (be they the international or national variety) decided to pit against each other were “races” (and also sexes.) Oh, they also tried professional associations and all, but not being a physical thing it didn’t hold as much.
The other one went straight into a kernel in the very old brain. The more cosmopolite and mixed populations (we all ARE. Compared to the neolithic.) didn’t recognize “family features” as accurately as the old savages, but they understood skin color, language, and “they done us wrong.”
To some extent this also failed spectacularly, to another it succeeded beyond all expectations.
Look, it didn’t succeed at creating solidarity within races. Partly because most races involved AREN’T and have nothing to do with genetics. As someone pointed out in comments here two days ago, there is more genetic variety in 100 square miles of Africa than anywhere else in the world. And, look you, the rest of the world is far from uniform when compared to a single family.
What it did succeed was in creating organized exploits using the mask of race to destroy the culture.
Mask of race? Sarah, what are you talking about?
Look, people, it’s not even the made-up races like “Latin” (Yes, they are. Yesterday I had the opportunity to read some comments loudly declaiming that Portuguese could be Latin, while Spaniards, Spaniards absolutely were. This can only be claimed by people who have never visited the Iberian peninsula or know its history, where often whether a village was Portuguese or Spanish was a matter of dispute, and where Portugal is such a narrow band between the sea and Spain it’s laughable to imagine those genes didn’t spread. (In fact since one of dad’s branches comes from that region, 23 and me assures me I have more Spanish blood than Portuguese. (Heresy.)) In the end this requires believing “race” hangs on the spelling of words. No matter how much idiots pronounce my middle name Marquez, it’s in fact Marques. (kssss not Kez) Which according to these idiots means I’m not Latin, but the cousins who spell it with z are. It makes a mockery of the concept of race. Which IS TBF right and just.) It’s also “black”. Oh, let’s not go into the fact that black, like white covers such a wide multitude as to be meaningless. It’s the fact — you won’t be upset right? — that most American blacks are whiter than most of my cousins — both in features and skin color — who would be shocked to hear themselves called anything but white. (Or if you prefer, find me at a con sometimes and get me to explain that any culture in which Megan Markle is considered “black” has its head so far up its ass about race that its opinions are invalid. Though, hey, my peeps, we DID consider the rest of the world of our insanity. Ain’t that glorious?)
HOWEVER they’ve managed to convince large groups of people that they are a race, and also that everyone discriminates against them because of race and also “capitalism” is responsible for this.
I’m not sure they managed to convince anyone they’re all the same race. Look, I have black friends both born here and not, and what they’ll say about each other and about other blacks… well!
But they have very successfully through the art education news media dissemination complex, as long as they controlled it, managed to convince the dominant culture that these were races/tribes and must be catered to.
To the point that nation states and cultural groups (Indians and Chinese are not races. They are however motivated cultures and nation states) are using this as an exploit and using nepotism and the West’s own stupidity to replace vast working parts of the society.
It has also worked to get sympathy to rebarbarized neolithic savages like the so called Palestinians, the dregs of the Arab world fed on hatred and a sense of grievance while subsisting on grift.
Both of these are a clear problem. But they are a problem because of Marxist propaganda and ersatz tribalism. I.e. the attempt to revive tribalism so they can rule over the warring tribes.
The fact that tribalism, even this kind of made up super-tribalism (uniting several tribes) is not compatible with a technological civilization (Hiring for any reason but competence will ALWAYS degrade competence till over time it is completely gone. And competence is needed in a complex civilization with sophisticated systems and tools.) doesn’t bother the Marxists. Not at all. Because they have a bizarre idea that once “capitalism” (Human trading ability. Literally one of our oldest abilities) collapses, paradise will emerge.
It should bother us. At least those of us who like eating, having a roof over our heads, not being massacred over some weird tribal disputed.
No. The solution is not more tribalism.
We are dying of tribalism.
Some utter idiot came in here to say that I was a “liberal” and wanted egalitarianism and said everyone is alike.
The levels of dumb in that comment would take one of those deep sea probes to plumb.
Not only am I not egalitarian but I don’t believe that people with the same rough skin color or the same rough features, or the same general geographic origin are interchangeable.
I’m not a tribalist. I’m not a barbarian.
And I’m only a liberal like the founding fathers were liberal. I believe in the individual rights of every human.
I believe while we should all be equal before the law — punished for the same crimes, afforded the same opportunity to TRY — we are not equal, nor will our results be equal. Not only will they not be equal among these made up broad racial groups, they won’t be equal within groups. Hell, they won’t be equal within families. (Though that has a higher chance, however, ferocious reader, think on your siblings and cousins, if you have any. Are you all the same? Even if the other is your identical twin!)
And I believe that civilization requires the best for each position. (Granted, yes, mine could be fulfilled by a monkey who can strike the keyboard semi-accurately. But think how many monkey hours it would take to recreate my posts. I have at least a slight edge there.)
The tribalism we’ve allowed — note allowed. As with toxic feminism, it was allowed by those who should not have given it leeway, no matter how much they were told they were guilty, no matter how scared they were of the barbarians — to flourish has given us COLLEGE graduates who can’t read fluently. It’s given us Engineers who don’t know math. It’s given us a vast population that can neither cypher nor think, and who takes its history from simplified or invented movies.
This can’t go on.
Trump has — give him credit — done more to cut back at this nonsense than any other president. (What you thought they hated him for being orange?) He’s done it by forbidding DEI (DIE) and by making it possible for governmental dependencies to hire by testing for competence. (Which means the rest of society will follow, in our wretched state of being dependent on the leviathan. This too shall pass.) This has both defanged the Universities that preach the new tribalism and destroyed the pay off of claiming tribes.
Yes, it will take time — Lord, give us a decade! Two! — but it means the poison is now coursing through the tribalist mindset, and it will die.
So the demand for a new tribalism with inverted colors is bullshit. Or, if you prefer, the last hope of those who have profited from tribalism: the demagogues, the statists, the tyrants.
I do believe we should fight back with all we have against tribablism, by testing everyone for competence and ensuring the competent get the job.
By the way this includes testing for nationalities and culture. Forget the neolithic nonsense of “We are tribe because we all have the same father.” Every nation state in the present day is the daughter of whores who roamed the dockside. Sure, it might only be the blonder (or darker) sailors that got in, but you probably have some sprinkles of the other, though you might not show it. (Even the tests can be odd.) The world has been too much linked by travel for almost a thousand years, and humans are randy as all get out.
Oh, the nations of Europe might need similarity in looks. They rest on that myth and it will take more than that to overcome it. At least looking somewhat like the people around you is a good idea.
But the US? if you think there is any unity of “race” in the US you’re out of your mind. Arguably there never was, simply because apparently any number of other European countries came over to colonize if not at the same time as the English, shortly after.
Now? Well, my mom when she visited said we gave her a headache because she couldn’t tell WHAT we were. And no, she wasn’t talking black and white. I know exactly what she was talking about because growing up in Europe and seeing tourists, I used to be able to tell the French from the English, the Germans from both and from the Dutch (and I can tell you, though it’s not the majority of his genetics, my husband looks wholly Irish. I can tell you because I remember that from when I first met him.) I can no longer do that. We are too mixed, and it’s weird to see several nationalities in the same family group even if there are no different “races”.
So going back to tribalism is stupid and just sets it up for further nonsense and division.
And besides, remember the really important thing: HIRING FOR ANY REASON BUT COMPETENCE DEGRADES COMPETENCE.
America is the leading innovator, the leading culture of the world by the simple method of letting individuals compete as individuals.
To the extent we’ve been losing our edge it’s because we’ve been genuflecting to the Marxist mask of race.
It’s time to throw Marxism in the ash heap of history.
No, I don’t think “all races” are the same. I think the divide is far finer than you think, though, and sometimes the results will surprise you.
Of course I don’t think IQ is a valid way to choose anything — immigrants, scientists, writers — either. Yes, before this is over I’ll probably have limped up to explain once again, but for now suffice it to say that while it measures competency for some positions we need, the idea we ONLY need high IQ people is …. so early and stupid science fiction it makes my head hurt. Also the product of people who haven’t lived surrounded by geniuses. Trust me on this there are tasks — and not only menial ones — for which high IQ is a detriment. And those tasks often include “anything beyond a very narrow band where specialization and passion coexist for those with nose-bleed-level IQ.
What I have to say this: who should be an American? Those who are prepared to be Americans. We are such a (thanks mom) “miscigenated people” that practically any skin color or combination of features can pass — though some are outre enough to raise eyebrows — BUT we can still tell our own.
The most essential thing for any immigrants — besides coming in legally, which is needed because Americans get to choose, damn it! — is the golden rule: Fit in or Fuck off. And yes, that includes teaching your kids to be fluent in English and that America is the best country on Earth. Because if you teach them to pine for the old homeland, they should go back there.
For anyone else, anyone who doesn’t want to fit in, conform to our Constitution, our laws, wave the flag and be proud to bursting of being American? The door is that way. We don’t care where you go, but you can’t stay here.
And for positions? For positions, we should hire and fire in the most American of all ways: by competence, tested if needed.
So, Sarah, how would you like it if that means that some professions end up being all the same color or rough origin-group?
I don’t care, so long as it’s not assumed no one else gets a look in. AND SO LONG AS OTHER PEOPLE GET TO APPLY AND BE TESTED FOR IT. Some day I’ll tell you why I think chemists and microscope jockeys will end up being mostly of German ancestry, at least in part. (It harks back to a specific experience. And it’s funny.) And I don’t care. So long as the brilliant chemist whose ancestors all come from Papua New Guinea (as long as he speaks fluent English and tries to fit in with the habits of his colleagues, at least in public) gets consideration and a look in. And so long as any manager trying to hire only his cousins is defenestrated, at least metaphorically. (Some cousin-hiring happens in every human society. Can’t stop all of it. Can make sure it’s not all of it, though.)
No, I don’t expect “racial” (mostly made up) groups to be equally represented in exact proportion. Hell, I don’t expect real genetic groups to be exactly equally represented. There are affinities and some seem to be genetic and pass on even in people that have very little of the genetics, on paper.
I do expect people to be hired for competence.
We are the best nation in the world. We are the best culture bestriding civilization.
We need to throw off the Marxist virus, refuse counterfeits and accept only the best of the best. Whatever that is for the position in question.
In hiring, in advancement, in education, competence should matter. Nothing else, except ethics.
That’s it.