Oh, that’s every week in my self-defense class. My teacher is an Army vet (Vietnam). He’s always giving college kids the stink eye and asking ‘Are you hands cold? Well, get them out of your [redacted] pockets!’
As for Baron Trump, I suspect his clothing choice in that photo owes far more to Mom than Dad. Do you think Melania is going to let her son look like a schlub? That Kamala’s step-daughter is a part time model tells you where the modern Modeling world is at. She looks like a prepubescent boy with a (small) hint of hips and breasts. Wonder what type of person would find that alluring hmmm?
And the Fang sticker was a Topps (makers of baseball cards) product I think. 3-4 Wacky Package stickers and a stick of that awful Topps bubblegum so stale it was like chewing cardboard (and not in a good way). I’d swear I had it as I was a devotee of TANG (both orange and grape) probably thinking if it would make me more suitable for the Astronaut corps. Drank so much grape tang one time I gave myself hives/blisters from Vitamin C overdose.
The Kamala stepdaughter looks stressed out, half-starved, and used up to me. And this in the prime of life — she’s in her early 20s, iirc. So she’s a part-time model…for what? Cautionary Tales Magazine? Modern Mental Illness? Abuse Victims Weekly? :shiver:
Although part of the problem could be with whoever took the photo. I’ve noticed that so-called glamor photographers have a real talent for making their subjects look bad. Fake, uncomfortable, and unhappy at best. It’s possible that this young woman would just look like a normal human in other circumstances.
Aha, so it’s the photo and/or the photographer, not the subject, that’s the problem here. As usual. It boggles my mind how good the fashion industry is at making goodlooking people look bad.
I worked with a girl who had once been a model. She got out because they wanted her to be unhealthy thin. She explained to me that they liked almost starving thin, because then they just added artificial padding where they wanted curves under the clothes. Then use photoshop to touch up. Still the meme is funny, one that I saved for my meme hord.
Mind you, my base structure is on the larger size (at one point I was underweight with the points of my hips prominent and *maybe* a size 10 in pants), so I’m a little biased, but even though BMI is a total crock, it has a point when listing extremes. 6’4″ and 110 would be 13.4, and since it tends to skew HIGH for taller people, that’s already well under the healthy range.
I’m only 5’8″, and if I was at 110 pounds I would be dying or dead. F@#$ those twerps.
(P.S. Still haven’t done the exhaustive rant with citations on why BMI is a crock. Single point for this instance is it uses a square to calculate volume, which is cubic. And that’s why the math starts failing when the height is outside of the midrange.)
American culture has been set to, “Be as skinny as possible,” for at least 70 years. Jean Kerr was mocking American diet habits in the early 60s.
it’s an education to note E.E. Smith’s ideal female weights, with his ideals being set in the ‘ 30s or earlier. Clarissa MacDougall, for example, is 5 foot 7 and 145 pounds.
Back in the late 80’s I was seriously training for bicycle competition (while hoping to build up money for a decent bike). I was 165 at 5′ 9″. This put me near the upper end of “normal” for BMI. My sister, visiting from college, asked my mother “what is he doing to himself?” because I looked dangerously underweight and heading toward anorexic. I looked best at around 190, which is near the upper end of “overweight” per BMI.
I’m a bit over what *I* consider to be my ideal weight, primarily because I got a never-quite-diagnosed health issue that gave me belly fat, but what I consider ideal is definitely above what society wants as my ideal. (Hilariously enough, people used to underestimate my weight by a large margin. I have runner’s legs, proportionately over-long even, so there’s a lot extra carried there.)
“Ideal” for me smooths out emotional swings from sugar lows. And even though I yell at my body for being a teenager and not “looking in the pantry” when it’s hungry, it must be doing that a little, or it wouldn’t matter what weight I’m at. And for those stupid ads saying I could lose 30 pounds quickly, sure, I could, so your product must make me deathly ill to do so…
I’m 5’4″ in my early 20’s weighed 125#s. That is unhealthy, or was for me (constantly getting sick). Not that 235#’s is particularly healthy now. I’d love to get down to 160#. But in my late 60’s, anything less is probably not recommended despite what the BMI says.
Indeed Sister in Law was thin, athletic and quite pretty as a teen. New York folks said she was a) too girl next door (this was the late 80’s and we were moving into the Waif from the Glamazon models i.e. she wasn’t shooting up heroin) and 2) she needed to lose 10-15 pounds. This on a young lady on who the top of the bathing suit just kind of hung there, she had hips (Italian ancestry). She was 6’1″ (still is give or take) and maybe 125 lbs dripping wet.
The designers essentially want clothes racks that can move to hang their clothes on. Designing for actual female forms is MUCH harder as there are curves AND because the placement and size of said curves has a HUGE variability. On top of that most male designers either don’t like women at all or are ephebophiles sliding into pedophiles in their choice of the female form. And the women often would rather dress men (e.g. Edith Head preferred to costume for men).
I heard it’s because the fashion ‘industry’ is dominated by gay men. So fashion models are women considered attractive by gay men. Which is apparently the ‘refugee from Auschwitz’ look, rather than the ‘Playboy centerfold’ look preferred by normal men.
(I hate the misuse of ‘industry’ for things that are not the least bit industrial such as banking, insurance, fashion, and advertising)
The Auschwitz image went through my head too. (It doesn’t help that I’m starting work on the third of my Leningrad trilogy, following on “Gnawing the Bones of the City” and “The Shadow over Leningrad,” so images of starving Leningraders are already in there as I re-read Harrison Salisbury’s The 900 Days to refresh my memories of the events of the lifting of the siege).
Imhave mixed feelings about RFK Jr. He’s supposedly very pro-gun control and of course there’s the whole, “vaccines cause autism,” thing.
But then, why don’t people realize you can support specific vaccines (I’m wondering if I’m due a tetanus booster) while worrying about the sheer variety of vaccines available and wondering what sort of long-term effects giving children lots of vaccinations might have on their health and immune systems.
The family pediatrician (now retired) pointed out that for the first six months or so, vaccines don’t matter because the baby has inherited immunity. Then the first round should be given, but only the “will kill/cripple the child if he catches it” vaccines. And even then, they should be spaced out over a year or so. The current recommendation has up to 50 doses of various vaccines in the first 12 months (some places have even more!) No wonder people are a bit concerned about too much of a good thing causing problems.
“50 doses of various vaccines in the first 12 months“
Exactly. Too many. Too soon. Too fast. Should be spread out. Just because the MMR vaccine has had a proven track record given all 3 at the same shot, does not mean others should be combined or given at the same time. Not even as boosters.
I’ve had Whooping Cough as an adult. No fun. No wonder it is deadly to infants and toddlers. Polio is another one that should be given in infants or at minimum toddlers.
There are some vaccines one should only get as entering school because not deadly to small children but determent results if get them as an adult the saying “Get mumps as a child, no problem. Get mumps as an adult, no children.” Or more severe getting as adults.
There are also vaccines than mothers need before they become pregnant because getting something causes problems with the fetus.
There are other vaccines that are deadly to the population, causing universal death to 30%+, like Small Pox. Interestingly enough, no longer offered in the round of vaccines. Any bets there are pockets of small pox where the dead and effects are just buried and not burned? Me Too.
Jerry Pournelle used to consider the likelihood of a cytokine storm with multiply-stacked vaccines and the potential linkage to (wait for it) autism. The heavy stacking is spooky.
Beyond tetanus, I’m planning on skipping any future vaccines. Flu made the nope-nopity list when Big Pharma started talking about trials of mRNA flu not-vax. I trust the FNP we get (well, “got”) our shots from, but I can see an “accidental” shipment of the wrong kind, complete with mislabel. (Considers foil hat. Recalls Bill Gates’ statements on stealth vaccines. Foil hat not needed.)
I’m good for 6 more years on Tetanus/DPT, though $SPOUSE needs hers. She’ll wait for better driving weather.
I got whooping cough in 2000. As you say, not fun. I need a tetanus booster, but all anyone around here offers is the DTP. *Grumble* Day Job vehemently encourages but does not require a flu shot.
I should also get the shingles jab. I had shingles once, maaaaaaybe got a bit of it a second time (echoing an oral virus). No fun, don’t recommend.
The new(er) shingles vaccine, Shingix, is a two-dose thing. It kicked my rump both times (“I hereby declare Naptime!”) – but I consider that a small price if it means I am spared shingles itself
Our GP finally gave me the old vaccine because the newer two dose vaccine was taking so long to get either fully approved or distributed. Don’t know which.
I got the old version in 2013. Dr. Mengele wanted me to get a second dose a few years ago (before Medicare kicked in–it might be covered under part B) but the cash price at the pharmacy was way out of budget.
AFAIK, I never had the chicken pox, so shouldn’t be at risk. OTOH, I never saw medical records, and I never asked her when she was still around.
her == Mom. Passed on Mother’s Day, 2022, age 99. She outlived both of her younger sisters, Dad, and his brothers and sibs-in-law. Miss you, Mom. [smile]
I had one of the lightest cases of chickenpox ever–ONE pock. For years we were in doubt as to whether it was really pox. Then I worked at a hospital for a while and they took a blood titer. Yup, I had the antibodies.
Shingles is no fun. I haven’t had it. SIL has breakouts. Bad enough that they have a handicap placard to use when she has the outbreaks. I think the new vaccine, which unlike the old version, can be gotten after outbreaks. Which stop or at least make outbreaks less severe.
There is no tetanus only shot. Only varieties of TDaP. And wound care is best for tetanus anyway, as the bacteria that produces the toxin is anaerobic – so just don’t let it get clogged with dirt.
I forgot about the Tetanus/DPT combo. Also proven safe. But not given combo to infants. Can get each individually too.
I can’t skip DPT. Probably should get it more often than the 10 year schedule. Like I wrote before, I’ve had it as an adult. I was current on the vaccine. Our son got it from me, it was going around the office. He was also current. OTOH have managed to skip it the last times it has gone through the area. DPT is majorly not fun.
Supposedly not so much it doesn’t work, just it doesn’t last the 10 years for everyone. Some percentage of the population it is only good for 3 to 5 years. Bit of information medical personnel leave out. Of coarse having gotten it, that gives some protection on its own.
I recall the stories of WWII draftees getting a bunch of shots pretty much all at once… and then being miserable on the train to whereever… Gee, maybe doing immune-system work ought to be taken slowly whenever it is reasonably possible to spread things out over time?
The stuff they gave us in 24th ID, because we were mideast deployable, those were way nastier. One batch made my teeth ache like they were on fire. Apparently I spiked a high fever as a reaction, but only for a few hours.
Ouch.
My immune system was kinda hyper, even then, but also sorta weird. I barely reacted to the smallpox vaccine. Almost got redosed, but they decided it wad “enough” and I did have a barely noticeable scar from a prior one.
The funny quiet kid didn’t react to any of the initial entry stuff. Nothing. They zapped him with smallpox vax three times. Nada. Also claimed never to have ever missed a day of school. He never caught the respiratory crud the rest of us swapped around. (HPH?)
Nurses need the HepB vaccine. I had it three times before the school administration decided I wasn’t going to have a reaction ever, and gave up.
National Guard liked to keep us ‘up to date’. Ever had a plague immunization? I just missed that. I think it was typhus that dropped me – given in the morning of a drill day, afternoon spent in our tiny sick bay.
And, as happened to many, I and my sister were sent off to ‘play with the other kids’ who had measles and mumps – vaccines for those were not commonly available around 1955. I just looked – stand-alones were around in 1963, 67, 69, MMR in 1971.
We did the same for our kids; not sure when they got MMR.
But I’m out of the flu-shot business – mRNA in my vax is not my preference. Yes, I did get the COVID 2-step. I think it screwed my health in a ‘minor’ way and I may have come out of that about the beginning of 2024.
I hhad vaccines for polio and small pox. Otherwise, old enough to actually had both measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, and chicken pox. Old enough to remember getting the mumps. Mumps went through the neighborhood kids one summer. Only my sister actually got really sick with it. Son got chicken pox 4 years before the vaccine hit. We did NOT deliberately expose him. Was interesting with him starting school and subsequent “do not have vaccine records for chicken pox”. Wish we’d taken pictures. He did NOT have a “light case”.
IIRC, I was out of school two weeks with mumps and an opportunistic strep infection. Whee. Had to learn long division at home, but caught up quickly enough. I don’t have a good excuse for why differential equations hate me. :)
I got mumps in 1963 or very early ’64. Never got measles, so got the vax ’69 or early ’70. My first flu shot was in fall of ’69 and my reaction was remarkably flu like. Had to hit the bathroom at night to take a leak, but walking wasn’t an option. That crawl was no fun, nor staying in bed all the next day.
Skipped flu shots for 20 years until I was getting surgery for a prosthetic stapes. Getting a postop cold or flu was suboptimal. I think one of the two left-ear failures was triggered by a sneeze or cough. (Right ear, the first one done, never failed.)
Probably should have switched surgeons after the first failure (year postop), but I had faith. Misplaced, since the second one failed a couple years later. OTOH, the third one (different style for each of the attempts) is going strong since 1994. On the gripping hand, the surgeon left medicine, and I heard she went into real estate. Hmm.
Side note: Never got documents for the procedures, and that’s cost me the ability to get an MRI scan. A couple years before the first procedure, one company screwed up and used the wrong (ie, magnetic) stainless for implants, and not all were recaptured. So, small chance of having had a bad one, with catastrophic results if I did. Protip: If you get implants, get documentation.
It’s not like 4004 BC was a random date. IMO, it rather reduces the impact, but the meme’s creators saw an opportunity to push more than one agenda at once.
And who can blame them for the reminder that at least their ideology isn’t insane in that particularly damaging way? (IMO, the ‘God created a thirteen billion year old world six thousand years ago’ idea is rather nuts, but not particularly damaging.)
I love the portrait of me at the start of the line, but I feel reluctantly obligated to remind you that I don’t do leather pants. Full, split skirts are more modest and much, much easier to keep clean and in shape. (And less expensive. I don’t have Black Widow’s clothing budget.)
I don’t think she’s wearing leather. Looks more like military high-density ballistic fabric to me. Which makes perfect sense if she’s going into battle.
I also enjoyed their wooden Viking training swords, with I assume each kids name in runes on each blade.
There’s a more Mediterranean-heritage photo out there I have seen of a squad of kids equipped with scutum forming a testudo, their kit complete with wooden gladius and pilum scaled appropriately for 2nd graders.
Here’s a simunition-live-fire exercise evolution working on their testudo. Discipline is pretty good until the end when they break formation and go “general pursuit” without orders:
AS $HOUSEMATE says, “Nobody is perfect. Even Carter wasn’t perfectly wrong.” (Which makes the last “administration” very suspect… should have gotten a few things right if only by accident, and yet….)
Every Biden* appointee was a feckless incompetent buffoon. Every. Single. One. It would be hard to do that on purpose. They managed it without even trying. Hell, I thought ‘Circle Back’ Psaki was the worst possible excuse for a press secretary — until they swapped her out for Mop Head.
And then I knew. The Democrats can always find somebody even worse. It’s their superpower.
One answer, DEI. They chose on looks not ability, even Kamala was chosen because of her looks. Back to they believe everyone is interchangeable so it shouldn’t matter, if the outside looks different. They never looked past the check off boxes, Gay, check, Tranny check, check, Women check. Since they believe everyone is the same, those other things were important, not whether they were sane or even functional. When you let the loonies run things of course they are going to screw everything up. They had loonies in every job and a bitter old back stabbing senile political white guy running things as president.
Now they are doing the same thing in reverse example instead of people with color or wearing a dress they went all white guy. (See the people are racist so we go all white guy and they’ll love us) David Hogg, really? That’s your fucking answer Democrats, good, you’ll lose more and more.
Hogg’s selection (and the other DNC leadership) really makes me wonder how many party members bailed, fled, excused themselves “for cause,” or are hiding in the janitor’s closet.
The gerontocracy is dying off, Gen X got chased off by the gerontocrats, the next group seem to be saying, “Yeahno, thanks,” and the youngest are wild radicals (see Hogg) or leaning conservative.
I read out the one about cleaning up the mess that made Biden. For a short shining moment she thought I had said something profound. Then I showed her the meme. Normal service resumed.
Tavois, abatis, proper fieldcraft, flint knapping, E&E, and so on. Little bit of this, little bit of that. Everything from breadboard electrics to how to make bread that doesn’t suck. Stitching for clothing and for wounds. Along with proper deportment and manners in public settings.
Otherwise folk’d think those kids had been raised by wolves. Which would be not entirely inaccurate, but misleading.
According To Hoyt 
a bumper crop, and I’ve missed a lot this week, myself. been a nuts week.
The Yahoo quip got a loud guffaw out of me. Startled the cats.
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Accurate, though. The 90s were wild. Especially if you were in a business that had anything to do with the nascent internet.
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That last one…
oof, as my kids say.
The metallic one is hilarious.
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About time someone said it about mass invasions….
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Bumper crop, indeed. Gotta admit I laughed out loud at the farm visit one. (Don’t have the t-shirt, but I can imagine it around here.)
The two-panel white board was wonderful. “just so happens…”
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There’s also the version of when the class visits the Army Base…. “GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR FUCKING POCKETS”
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Oh, that’s every week in my self-defense class. My teacher is an Army vet (Vietnam). He’s always giving college kids the stink eye and asking ‘Are you hands cold? Well, get them out of your [redacted] pockets!’
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me too
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Man those lawn gnomes are straight out of a Larry Correia book.
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“The Memes Are Early”
“No, you slept late.” [Crazy Grin]
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SFBS
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Miss Sarah, you always have the best memes!!
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As for Baron Trump, I suspect his clothing choice in that photo owes far more to Mom than Dad. Do you think Melania is going to let her son look like a schlub? That Kamala’s step-daughter is a part time model tells you where the modern Modeling world is at. She looks like a prepubescent boy with a (small) hint of hips and breasts. Wonder what type of person would find that alluring hmmm?
And the Fang sticker was a Topps (makers of baseball cards) product I think. 3-4 Wacky Package stickers and a stick of that awful Topps bubblegum so stale it was like chewing cardboard (and not in a good way). I’d swear I had it as I was a devotee of TANG (both orange and grape) probably thinking if it would make me more suitable for the Astronaut corps. Drank so much grape tang one time I gave myself hives/blisters from Vitamin C overdose.
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The Kamala stepdaughter looks stressed out, half-starved, and used up to me. And this in the prime of life — she’s in her early 20s, iirc. So she’s a part-time model…for what? Cautionary Tales Magazine? Modern Mental Illness? Abuse Victims Weekly? :shiver:
Although part of the problem could be with whoever took the photo. I’ve noticed that so-called glamor photographers have a real talent for making their subjects look bad. Fake, uncomfortable, and unhappy at best. It’s possible that this young woman would just look like a normal human in other circumstances.
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Sees the “Raised By” meme: reminds self to sit up straight at the computer.
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she doesn’t. I’ve seen her on screen
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Aha, so it’s the photo and/or the photographer, not the subject, that’s the problem here. As usual. It boggles my mind how good the fashion industry is at making goodlooking people look bad.
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Barron Trump:
“…. I find your lack of faith disturbing…”
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I worked with a girl who had once been a model. She got out because they wanted her to be unhealthy thin. She explained to me that they liked almost starving thin, because then they just added artificial padding where they wanted curves under the clothes. Then use photoshop to touch up. Still the meme is funny, one that I saved for my meme hord.
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A young lady I used to know (6′ 4″ and 110 pounds at 17) was told by a middle aged overweight “agent” that she needed to lose at least 15 pounds.
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Holy effing cow. That’s beyond thin.
Mind you, my base structure is on the larger size (at one point I was underweight with the points of my hips prominent and *maybe* a size 10 in pants), so I’m a little biased, but even though BMI is a total crock, it has a point when listing extremes. 6’4″ and 110 would be 13.4, and since it tends to skew HIGH for taller people, that’s already well under the healthy range.
I’m only 5’8″, and if I was at 110 pounds I would be dying or dead. F@#$ those twerps.
(P.S. Still haven’t done the exhaustive rant with citations on why BMI is a crock. Single point for this instance is it uses a square to calculate volume, which is cubic. And that’s why the math starts failing when the height is outside of the midrange.)
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I was anorexic at 5’7″ and 120lbs. BUT then again, I’m built like an ox. If you’ve seen my kids, that’s my base-build. it’s an Almeida thing.
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American culture has been set to, “Be as skinny as possible,” for at least 70 years. Jean Kerr was mocking American diet habits in the early 60s.
it’s an education to note E.E. Smith’s ideal female weights, with his ideals being set in the ‘ 30s or earlier. Clarissa MacDougall, for example, is 5 foot 7 and 145 pounds.
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Europe is actually worse.
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Back in the late 80’s I was seriously training for bicycle competition (while hoping to build up money for a decent bike). I was 165 at 5′ 9″. This put me near the upper end of “normal” for BMI. My sister, visiting from college, asked my mother “what is he doing to himself?” because I looked dangerously underweight and heading toward anorexic. I looked best at around 190, which is near the upper end of “overweight” per BMI.
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I’m a bit over what *I* consider to be my ideal weight, primarily because I got a never-quite-diagnosed health issue that gave me belly fat, but what I consider ideal is definitely above what society wants as my ideal. (Hilariously enough, people used to underestimate my weight by a large margin. I have runner’s legs, proportionately over-long even, so there’s a lot extra carried there.)
“Ideal” for me smooths out emotional swings from sugar lows. And even though I yell at my body for being a teenager and not “looking in the pantry” when it’s hungry, it must be doing that a little, or it wouldn’t matter what weight I’m at. And for those stupid ads saying I could lose 30 pounds quickly, sure, I could, so your product must make me deathly ill to do so…
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I’m 5’4″ in my early 20’s weighed 125#s. That is unhealthy, or was for me (constantly getting sick). Not that 235#’s is particularly healthy now. I’d love to get down to 160#. But in my late 60’s, anything less is probably not recommended despite what the BMI says.
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She said that’s when she quit modeling. When I knew her she was maybe 130 after having four kids.
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Yeah, that “mentor” wanted a coat rack.
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Indeed Sister in Law was thin, athletic and quite pretty as a teen. New York folks said she was a) too girl next door (this was the late 80’s and we were moving into the Waif from the Glamazon models i.e. she wasn’t shooting up heroin) and 2) she needed to lose 10-15 pounds. This on a young lady on who the top of the bathing suit just kind of hung there, she had hips (Italian ancestry). She was 6’1″ (still is give or take) and maybe 125 lbs dripping wet.
The designers essentially want clothes racks that can move to hang their clothes on. Designing for actual female forms is MUCH harder as there are curves AND because the placement and size of said curves has a HUGE variability. On top of that most male designers either don’t like women at all or are ephebophiles sliding into pedophiles in their choice of the female form. And the women often would rather dress men (e.g. Edith Head preferred to costume for men).
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I heard it’s because the fashion ‘industry’ is dominated by gay men. So fashion models are women considered attractive by gay men. Which is apparently the ‘refugee from Auschwitz’ look, rather than the ‘Playboy centerfold’ look preferred by normal men.
(I hate the misuse of ‘industry’ for things that are not the least bit industrial such as banking, insurance, fashion, and advertising)
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The Auschwitz image went through my head too. (It doesn’t help that I’m starting work on the third of my Leningrad trilogy, following on “Gnawing the Bones of the City” and “The Shadow over Leningrad,” so images of starving Leningraders are already in there as I re-read Harrison Salisbury’s The 900 Days to refresh my memories of the events of the lifting of the siege).
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Teach them things like “Guys shouldn’t wear scarves unless it’s winter because they aren’t a guy fashion accessory”
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Just call it a cravat, and they can get away with it.
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You mean a cranial tourniquet?
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The 1st Cavalry had divisional cravats with their khakis; my dad looked sharp in his.
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Maximum meme-age. This will take hours to plow through.
Enjoyable hours!
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Imhave mixed feelings about RFK Jr. He’s supposedly very pro-gun control and of course there’s the whole, “vaccines cause autism,” thing.
But then, why don’t people realize you can support specific vaccines (I’m wondering if I’m due a tetanus booster) while worrying about the sheer variety of vaccines available and wondering what sort of long-term effects giving children lots of vaccinations might have on their health and immune systems.
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The family pediatrician (now retired) pointed out that for the first six months or so, vaccines don’t matter because the baby has inherited immunity. Then the first round should be given, but only the “will kill/cripple the child if he catches it” vaccines. And even then, they should be spaced out over a year or so. The current recommendation has up to 50 doses of various vaccines in the first 12 months (some places have even more!) No wonder people are a bit concerned about too much of a good thing causing problems.
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Exactly. Too many. Too soon. Too fast. Should be spread out. Just because the MMR vaccine has had a proven track record given all 3 at the same shot, does not mean others should be combined or given at the same time. Not even as boosters.
I’ve had Whooping Cough as an adult. No fun. No wonder it is deadly to infants and toddlers. Polio is another one that should be given in infants or at minimum toddlers.
There are some vaccines one should only get as entering school because not deadly to small children but determent results if get them as an adult the saying “Get mumps as a child, no problem. Get mumps as an adult, no children.” Or more severe getting as adults.
There are also vaccines than mothers need before they become pregnant because getting something causes problems with the fetus.
There are other vaccines that are deadly to the population, causing universal death to 30%+, like Small Pox. Interestingly enough, no longer offered in the round of vaccines. Any bets there are pockets of small pox where the dead and effects are just buried and not burned? Me Too.
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Jerry Pournelle used to consider the likelihood of a cytokine storm with multiply-stacked vaccines and the potential linkage to (wait for it) autism. The heavy stacking is spooky.
Beyond tetanus, I’m planning on skipping any future vaccines. Flu made the nope-nopity list when Big Pharma started talking about trials of mRNA flu not-vax. I trust the FNP we get (well, “got”) our shots from, but I can see an “accidental” shipment of the wrong kind, complete with mislabel. (Considers foil hat. Recalls Bill Gates’ statements on stealth vaccines. Foil hat not needed.)
I’m good for 6 more years on Tetanus/DPT, though $SPOUSE needs hers. She’ll wait for better driving weather.
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We used to have flu. But yeah, don’t trust it anymore.
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I got whooping cough in 2000. As you say, not fun. I need a tetanus booster, but all anyone around here offers is the DTP. *Grumble* Day Job vehemently encourages but does not require a flu shot.
I should also get the shingles jab. I had shingles once, maaaaaaybe got a bit of it a second time (echoing an oral virus). No fun, don’t recommend.
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The new(er) shingles vaccine, Shingix, is a two-dose thing. It kicked my rump both times (“I hereby declare Naptime!”) – but I consider that a small price if it means I am spared shingles itself
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Our GP finally gave me the old vaccine because the newer two dose vaccine was taking so long to get either fully approved or distributed. Don’t know which.
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I got the old version in 2013. Dr. Mengele wanted me to get a second dose a few years ago (before Medicare kicked in–it might be covered under part B) but the cash price at the pharmacy was way out of budget.
AFAIK, I never had the chicken pox, so shouldn’t be at risk. OTOH, I never saw medical records, and I never asked her when she was still around.
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her == Mom. Passed on Mother’s Day, 2022, age 99. She outlived both of her younger sisters, Dad, and his brothers and sibs-in-law. Miss you, Mom. [smile]
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I had one of the lightest cases of chickenpox ever–ONE pock. For years we were in doubt as to whether it was really pox. Then I worked at a hospital for a while and they took a blood titer. Yup, I had the antibodies.
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It hit me for a loop — the second time.
Then, my sister had shingles, and apparently the vaccine helps but she couldn’t get one for love or money.
The doctor’s office couldn’t get it either, but the pharmacy had it.
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Shingles is no fun. I haven’t had it. SIL has breakouts. Bad enough that they have a handicap placard to use when she has the outbreaks. I think the new vaccine, which unlike the old version, can be gotten after outbreaks. Which stop or at least make outbreaks less severe.
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They give rabies vaccine after you are exposed. Though that one doesn’t help once symptoms appear.
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Yes. Flu vaccine, since they discussed using mRNA for the new batches, is 100% not getting.
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There is no tetanus only shot. Only varieties of TDaP. And wound care is best for tetanus anyway, as the bacteria that produces the toxin is anaerobic – so just don’t let it get clogged with dirt.
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I forgot about the Tetanus/DPT combo. Also proven safe. But not given combo to infants. Can get each individually too.
I can’t skip DPT. Probably should get it more often than the 10 year schedule. Like I wrote before, I’ve had it as an adult. I was current on the vaccine. Our son got it from me, it was going around the office. He was also current. OTOH have managed to skip it the last times it has gone through the area. DPT is majorly not fun.
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If the vaccination doesn’t work, why are you so insistent on getting it?
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Supposedly not so much it doesn’t work, just it doesn’t last the 10 years for everyone. Some percentage of the population it is only good for 3 to 5 years. Bit of information medical personnel leave out. Of coarse having gotten it, that gives some protection on its own.
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I was advised blood plasma donors lose vaccine efficacy faster. Also some immune systems clear out faster or slower.
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this
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I recall the stories of WWII draftees getting a bunch of shots pretty much all at once… and then being miserable on the train to whereever… Gee, maybe doing immune-system work ought to be taken slowly whenever it is reasonably possible to spread things out over time?
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US Army “initial entry” shots were… unpleasant.
The stuff they gave us in 24th ID, because we were mideast deployable, those were way nastier. One batch made my teeth ache like they were on fire. Apparently I spiked a high fever as a reaction, but only for a few hours.
Ouch.
My immune system was kinda hyper, even then, but also sorta weird. I barely reacted to the smallpox vaccine. Almost got redosed, but they decided it wad “enough” and I did have a barely noticeable scar from a prior one.
The funny quiet kid didn’t react to any of the initial entry stuff. Nothing. They zapped him with smallpox vax three times. Nada. Also claimed never to have ever missed a day of school. He never caught the respiratory crud the rest of us swapped around. (HPH?)
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Nurses need the HepB vaccine. I had it three times before the school administration decided I wasn’t going to have a reaction ever, and gave up.
National Guard liked to keep us ‘up to date’. Ever had a plague immunization? I just missed that. I think it was typhus that dropped me – given in the morning of a drill day, afternoon spent in our tiny sick bay.
And, as happened to many, I and my sister were sent off to ‘play with the other kids’ who had measles and mumps – vaccines for those were not commonly available around 1955. I just looked – stand-alones were around in 1963, 67, 69, MMR in 1971.
We did the same for our kids; not sure when they got MMR.
But I’m out of the flu-shot business – mRNA in my vax is not my preference. Yes, I did get the COVID 2-step. I think it screwed my health in a ‘minor’ way and I may have come out of that about the beginning of 2024.
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I hhad vaccines for polio and small pox. Otherwise, old enough to actually had both measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, and chicken pox. Old enough to remember getting the mumps. Mumps went through the neighborhood kids one summer. Only my sister actually got really sick with it. Son got chicken pox 4 years before the vaccine hit. We did NOT deliberately expose him. Was interesting with him starting school and subsequent “do not have vaccine records for chicken pox”. Wish we’d taken pictures. He did NOT have a “light case”.
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IIRC, I was out of school two weeks with mumps and an opportunistic strep infection. Whee. Had to learn long division at home, but caught up quickly enough. I don’t have a good excuse for why differential equations hate me. :)
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The one childhood disease I missed was mumps.
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I got mumps in 1963 or very early ’64. Never got measles, so got the vax ’69 or early ’70. My first flu shot was in fall of ’69 and my reaction was remarkably flu like. Had to hit the bathroom at night to take a leak, but walking wasn’t an option. That crawl was no fun, nor staying in bed all the next day.
Skipped flu shots for 20 years until I was getting surgery for a prosthetic stapes. Getting a postop cold or flu was suboptimal. I think one of the two left-ear failures was triggered by a sneeze or cough. (Right ear, the first one done, never failed.)
Probably should have switched surgeons after the first failure (year postop), but I had faith. Misplaced, since the second one failed a couple years later. OTOH, the third one (different style for each of the attempts) is going strong since 1994. On the gripping hand, the surgeon left medicine, and I heard she went into real estate. Hmm.
Side note: Never got documents for the procedures, and that’s cost me the ability to get an MRI scan. A couple years before the first procedure, one company screwed up and used the wrong (ie, magnetic) stainless for implants, and not all were recaptured. So, small chance of having had a bad one, with catastrophic results if I did. Protip: If you get implants, get documentation.
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That ‘Number of genders’ meme needs to go back 500 MILLION years. Because that’s how long there have been 2 sexes.
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It’s not like 4004 BC was a random date. IMO, it rather reduces the impact, but the meme’s creators saw an opportunity to push more than one agenda at once.
And who can blame them for the reminder that at least their ideology isn’t insane in that particularly damaging way? (IMO, the ‘God created a thirteen billion year old world six thousand years ago’ idea is rather nuts, but not particularly damaging.)
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That map of Australia should have a lot of wiggly black lines across the continent, representing rivers and lakes. :-P
Crocodiles and river sharks have been encountered hundreds of miles from the coasts.
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I love the portrait of me at the start of the line, but I feel reluctantly obligated to remind you that I don’t do leather pants. Full, split skirts are more modest and much, much easier to keep clean and in shape. (And less expensive. I don’t have Black Widow’s clothing budget.)
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I don’t think she’s wearing leather. Looks more like military high-density ballistic fabric to me. Which makes perfect sense if she’s going into battle.
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I thought that was either Barb or Janea from Ringo’s new draft “Quenn of Swords” that he is serializing at his Substack.
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👏👏👏👏👏👏
🍿Worthy!
Excellent!
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“shield wall”
Squad Tactics Training is essential and never-ending. Don’t just do it, live it.
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I also enjoyed their wooden Viking training swords, with I assume each kids name in runes on each blade.
There’s a more Mediterranean-heritage photo out there I have seen of a squad of kids equipped with scutum forming a testudo, their kit complete with wooden gladius and pilum scaled appropriately for 2nd graders.
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Here’s a simunition-live-fire exercise evolution working on their testudo. Discipline is pretty good until the end when they break formation and go “general pursuit” without orders:
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Bernie “onsie”, perfect reply to his tantrum:
“Senator, did someone forget to change your diaper?”
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“I support parents’ rights to buy anything they want for their children to wear. Don’t you?”
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Well, got to give Jimmy credit for something. He did airline deregulation too, as I recall.
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AS $HOUSEMATE says, “Nobody is perfect. Even Carter wasn’t perfectly wrong.” (Which makes the last “administration” very suspect… should have gotten a few things right if only by accident, and yet….)
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They were almost supernaturally perfectly bad.
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Every Biden* appointee was a feckless incompetent buffoon. Every. Single. One. It would be hard to do that on purpose. They managed it without even trying. Hell, I thought ‘Circle Back’ Psaki was the worst possible excuse for a press secretary — until they swapped her out for Mop Head.
And then I knew. The Democrats can always find somebody even worse. It’s their superpower.
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Yep. This.
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One answer, DEI. They chose on looks not ability, even Kamala was chosen because of her looks. Back to they believe everyone is interchangeable so it shouldn’t matter, if the outside looks different. They never looked past the check off boxes, Gay, check, Tranny check, check, Women check. Since they believe everyone is the same, those other things were important, not whether they were sane or even functional. When you let the loonies run things of course they are going to screw everything up. They had loonies in every job and a bitter old back stabbing senile political white guy running things as president.
Now they are doing the same thing in reverse example instead of people with color or wearing a dress they went all white guy. (See the people are racist so we go all white guy and they’ll love us) David Hogg, really? That’s your fucking answer Democrats, good, you’ll lose more and more.
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Hogg’s selection (and the other DNC leadership) really makes me wonder how many party members bailed, fled, excused themselves “for cause,” or are hiding in the janitor’s closet.
The gerontocracy is dying off, Gen X got chased off by the gerontocrats, the next group seem to be saying, “Yeahno, thanks,” and the youngest are wild radicals (see Hogg) or leaning conservative.
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the last couple of generations never got anything direct from Comintern
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Biden got Trump elected. (Grin)
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Carter got Reagan elected …
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I printed out the new rock-paper-scissors and placed on the board in the patrol office
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Moo.
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I read out the one about cleaning up the mess that made Biden. For a short shining moment she thought I had said something profound. Then I showed her the meme. Normal service resumed.
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LOL 😅
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Re that map of Australia –
If you’ve ever read Bill Bryson’s “Down Under” he could have helped draft that!
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Australia was the inspiration, maybe, for “Deathworld”?
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Or Tuchanka?
(Except Australia doesn’t have Thresher Maws…)
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Like that one line: “Avoid the giant laser beam.”
YA THINK?!! :-D
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“There’s a REAPER in my way, Wrex!” “I know, you get to have all the fun.” Wrex on the Citadel elevators in the first game was fun too.
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I suspect all writers have a runner….
And shield walls! Crucial parenting there. :)
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Tavois, abatis, proper fieldcraft, flint knapping, E&E, and so on. Little bit of this, little bit of that. Everything from breadboard electrics to how to make bread that doesn’t suck. Stitching for clothing and for wounds. Along with proper deportment and manners in public settings.
Otherwise folk’d think those kids had been raised by wolves. Which would be not entirely inaccurate, but misleading.
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More parents should do all of these! *Thumbs up*
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Good set of memes today.
Like the KKK one.
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I knew there was some place that cats learned this kind of stuff:
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So accurate for my trouble.
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LOL. Got that right.
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Jase T. Cat approves of this message.
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I have noticed there are not enough dragon meme’s in this electronic world. I’ll start working on that.
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