I’m going to quibble about that “1.6%” one: You didn’t have to own slaves to be pro-slavery any more than you had to have been a slave to be anti-slavery.
Still, they like to blame folks like me, who haven’t had family here on the continent until my Great Grands got here, and were rather poor to begin with, for their African enemies selling their ancestors off to the traders.
Too many Greats to count (or determine), but Grandma Pete’s family seems to have emigrated from Normandy to a lace-making area of England in the 13 or 14 hundreds. So French, diluted by lots of time.
This is contrary to Grandma’s assertion that her family welcomed the Indians when the tribe showed up in western Iowa. :)
Well, a lot of tribes didn’t show up in Iowa and the Dakotas until other tribes had thrown them out of where they were living, and that was more in Emily Dickinson’s time or Jane Austen’s time than in the early Colonial times.
There’s also the thing with the Iroquois/Six Nations/Seven Nations taking over vast tracts of the historical Northwest Territory and Kentucky, driving out all other tribes, and not settling there but using them as fur farms. So when white settlers first showed up, the land was empty for hundreds of miles; and that was just about the time when the other tribes started coming back to their old lands, where they hadn’t been for fifty years or so.
So yup, it was entirely possible that some white people were already settled in some places before Indians showed up.
By the time upper Europe, English, French, etc., showed up on the east cost of the North America of the US and Canada, the Spanish had already landed on the south American coast lines. Besides joining the local neighbors to defeat the Aztec’s (not a bad thing, honestly, they also spread horses and decease that swept through the entirety of the continent. Certainly not the last time, but the damage had been started. Thus by the time the first settlers showed up the people on the ground had already been thinned by other means than native aboriginal political movement.
Other item. This just came in from The Applegate Oregon reunion:
“The 400th anniversary of the Applegate’s arriving in the new world is coming up. I’ve heard conflicting dates of 1626, 1627, or 1628.”
So the dates I’ve been stating, 1645, is off by, um, a few years. (Heck until recently, I didn’t know that branch of the family had been in the US that long. Since 1760’s, yes as there are copies of the appropriate weddings and birth certificates required for Revolution scholarships. But before that? No.)
I once pointed out to a Ieftist that my mother’s lineage (Volga Valley Germans) arrived well AFTER the Thirteenth Amendment was passed. His reply was that those immigrants had benefited from the country “built on sIavery” and so were equally guilty.
Which just goes to show that there’s no point in talking to those people.
And then- what they fail to say- the origin of the word “slave”, coming from the Slavs of Europe, who were apparently enslaved by virtually everyone else. Including Africans…
Until the 1600s, more Europeans were enslaved by the Ottomans and Barbary Pirates than Africans or other non-Europeans were enslaved by Europeans. Something like 100,000 Europeans passed through the markets in Constantinople/Istanbul per year in the 1500s and early 1600s. And no one knows how many millions of Africans the Arab slavers carried off between AD 700 and 1900.
The human mind tends to be a thing of habits and laziness. They have to be somehow shocked into actually thinking.
This is not an easy task.
Most common conversational gambits are not carefully thought out philosophies with deep background and reasoning. They are simply rote responses. When a leftist responds with some variation of “-ist!” or the like, they are not, note well, actually thinking.
They are regurgitating pre-chewed crap that they’ve been fed by the media and the maleducation system. You are not having a conversation. You are listening to an automated message with no human brain behind it. Thus brick/wall.
For example: Some of my coworkers at a different job used to complain about “the rich.” They don’t pay enough taxes! They take too much profit! They don’t pay their workers enough! They are greedy bastages!
I responded that I would like to be rich someday. I don’t want to fork over 60%+ of my pay, I want to use that for my future children, my wife, my family (should I acquire those things). Don’t you want to be rich, too? Don’t be stealing from your future self!
This, coming from a completely unexpected angle, made them stop and think. Leftists have rote responses for many conversational gambits, all the way up to “don’t confuse me. I know what I think!” (note, they do not here, actually think)
Engaging with our opposite numbers is a headache, yes, but engage we must. Internet arguing is a spectator sport, as Larry is wont to say- and he is right. So is public argumentation. If you hone your logic and tactics well, you might even surprise some people. Humor, especially, is the sneaky dagger that can slip through the armor of profound willful ignorance.
So imagine there was a place during the period of the transatlantic slave trade where, if a slave stepped foot on its soil, that person instantly became free. And imagine that place spent treasure, ships and lives in a decades-long effort to stamp out the transatlantic slave trade for purely moral reasons. And then imaging in spite of all that, that place is hated with white hot fury by the left, because they were colonialist oppressors and also pale.
There was such a place, Great Britain.
In the course of looking up this I found a interesting 1774 case in Scotland, link https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/learning/slavery/slavery-freedom-or-perpetual-servitude-the-joseph-knight-case , where a fellow brought into Scotland as a “perpetual servant”, who had been purchased as a slave in Jamaica, sought, successfully, to be allowed to leave the service of his “owner”, in part based on prior case judgements, specifically referring to Smith v Gould heard in English courts in 1706, which had held:
”…a slave or Negroe the Instant he lands in England becomes a free man that is the Law will protect him in enjoyment of his person And his property Yet with regard to any right…”
The courts agreed, through appeals all the way up to the supreme civil court in Scotland, and that court affirmed the lower court’s ruling that:
“…the state of slavery is not recognised by the laws of this kingdom, and is inconsistent with the principles thereof: That the regulations in Jamaica, concerning slaves, do not extend to this kingdom; and repelled the defender’s claim to a perpetual service.”
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But the law in Britain, Wales and Scotland was written by, and the judges ruling on this and other similar cases were, pale people, so they must be evil, say the the idiots and leftists, but I repeat myself.
A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, but it is not a tort. A strawberry jam-filled pastry is also not in and of itself a tort, though it could be a tart, although that could also be a loose woman. There is nothing in the law that defines a loose woman, nor a tight woman. So, there you go, and wherever you go, there you are.
Tort, torta, torte… “Give me six lines written by the most honest tortoise and I’ll find something in them to hang him for. Or indict him. Either’s good.”
Now is that pastry fully enclosing said jam? Because a jammy dodger sounds right nice right now, and especially if it’s after being delivered by a tart. Possibly even a tart with a cart.
Poll watcher training was interesting. They have all these things you are allowed to verify if you’re there when the voting machines are being worked on…. and NONE of them mention verifying that you need to check wi-fi and Bluetooth before you can say the machine isn’t connected to the internet. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
I hear they use floating point arithmetic. That makes my ignorant intuition itch. Also, Lampposts Without Lawyers forbids us commoners to look at the software.
What would have happened if some oddball misfit troublemaking know-it-all geeky poo-paddling weirdo had complained about WiFi and Bluetooth?
The Machines That Shall Not Be Named not only store votes as floats, there is a ‘feature’ which can apply a scale factor to the votes for each candidate. So each vote for candidate T might be stored as 0.8, and candidate B votes stored as 1.2. Both would display as 1 when rounded to an int, but when added up they produce very different totals.
The MTSNBN were originally designed to rig elections for Hugo Chavez. All those ‘features’ are still present.
One security specialist cracked into voting machines with ease, using a wireless tablet from the parking lot. Instead of praise for finding a gaping security hole, he was charged with a crime.
And then the customers of the VPN companies realize 2 things:
A VPN is just another set of servers with an IP address range that can be blocked — it’s why you can’t purchase content from Amazon if you’re using one.
If the government hasn’t blocked the server IPs of the VPN I’m using, am I using a honeypot they already have a backdoor into?
Do not use sheet metal for the blade. It doesn’t hold an edge worth crap, it bends and buckles after the first few dozen or so, and any decent machine shop can whip up a good steel blade in about two shakes. Plus, supporting your local machine shop (or tinker neighbor) is just good business practice.
Plus, it saves on avgas for the helicopter, which is the other option.
Or, you know, you could just use rope. Plenty of trees, streetlights, overpasses, bridges and whatnot, seeing as we’re being all traditional now.
Roofing tar ain’t too expensive, and feathers are easy to get if you’re more of the merciful type. Or maybe you think they might be trainable, with a bit of effort.
Way cheaper to fly piston-engine helos per hour of free rides as well. But per-ride what matters is how many free rides you can give in a single hop. Turbines/Jet-A start make sense when you have larger loads.
I’d use Kasenit for the blade’s edge, myself. Not sure how much good you’re going to get heating and quenching mild steel, and 1/4″ plate won’t have much carbon, so it’s mild.
Serious question from a know-nothing, here: could you heat the edge for a goodly while in a bed of charcoal or coal or… idk, something carbon-y–to toughen it up?
It’s been a hell of a long time since I did heat treatment, but yeah. Kasenit (and similar compounds) are sticky carbon-bearing goodies. You’d want red-hot heat, and should hold it for a while (faint memory says we did it for a few minutes in a non-critical application in high-school shop).
Heat, diffuse carbon into the steel, quench. That should do the trick. (Thinks about the 5/16″ plate sitting in the stockpile…)
Use a magnet. When it stops sticking, the carbon steel is above the critical temperature.
You can, with practice, estimate carbon content of straight carbon steel by grinding. Called “spark test”. If you get short straight streaks with no “burst”, it’s low carbon. Long streaks that burst like a firework are higher carbon.
For knives and related, you walt 0.5 to 1.5. Right around 0.9 is a sweet spot.
example: 1095 carbon steel with 0.95%. Which is dandy for basic knife making. Quench in oil.
On the “talking to a brick wall” thing, this is why I advocate for stopping the use of the term “illegal immigrants” and starting calling them trespassers instead. It’s shorter, it’s punchier, and it’s harder for the Left to deliberately confuse the issue.
“Illegal aliens” worked fine, without sounding like it was trying extra-hard to demonize anybody. Why not stick with it? Every year there’s an ever more niggardly dole of whitelisted terms!
But the undecided voters whom you’re trying to win over won’t agree. Invaders? No, they’re just trying to make a better life for their family, they’ll say. But trespassers is impossible to deny. I mean, the hardcore Left will deny it, but the hardcore Left has abandoned all pretense of caring about Truth. What we’re aiming for is the undecided middle, the ones who still care about truth but don’t pay close enough attention to know that the news is lying to them. They’ll think you’re overexaggerating if you call them invaders (because they haven’t heard enough of the facts), and stop listening. But if you call them trespassers, that’s a concept they immediately know is accurate.
Heh. That didn’t even cross my mind til you mentioned it. What with so many different pots of bubbling crazy on the steam table, I guess that one didn’t make it to my tray.
I see Pride as a proper attitude regarding a job well done or doing the Right Thing even when it’s not popular. Vanity is more of an unearned poor imitation. Which is why it’s so popular among Leftroids; no effort is required.
The mail delivery email shows our Oregon ballots supposed to show up today. Supposed to because while the email in question is accurate 99% of the time, but we have had mail pieces expected and looking for, get delayed. Not much we have come in the mail we care about. But things like CC’s, drivers licenses, car titles, CCL permits, we watch for. Only one piece so far did not show up on the day that the email delivery list said it was suppose to – one of the CCL’s. Showed up the next delivery day (Monday), but still.
I’ll know if our came in when I’m in town on Tuesday. I’d be really annoyed if it’s later than the 29th (we use the county clerk’s office drop box). The mail-drop people thought that they might show up last week on the 16th, but since we’re one of those right-wing counties, I wasn’t going to count on it.
Vote-fraud by mail (as mandated by statute) sucks raw eggs.
we got our pamphlet (state / federal) early last week and the ballots a few days later.. can’t really remember exactly when as the missus went into the hospital on Tuesday and didn’t come home til yesterday. The local pamphlet (city/ county) came about two plus weeks ago.,
Oof. She is now. We went to the ER Saturday (8 days ago) evening via ambulance due to possible heart attack. Got diagnosed as something else that’s a catch-all diagnosis. Went back to urgent care Tuesday with jaundice, got sent to hospital for MRI for gallstones, etc. She had a stuck gallstone so the bile was backing up (incidentally causing Saturday’s problem), so she had that removed Thursday, and then the gallbladder Friday, and finally came home again yesterday.
Sure they were mailed, date stamped and everything, then packed on boxes to be securely transported to a holding facility, adjacent to a juvenile detention center and well stocked with incindiaries.
Today is market day. If the ballots aren’t at the mail drop, I’ll pay a visit to the county clerk’s office. Might have to for another reason; property tax office is the next window over. Which does wonders for bond issues that show up for for November elections. [VBEG]
Haven’t seen our property tax bill, yet. Going to have to guesstimate (VS WAG, because it shouldn’t be too much higher, given Oregon’s limits) to add to October amount needed from IRA’s to finish paying off this months bills.
“Which does wonders for bond issues that show up for for November elections.”
Yes it does. Yours aren’t as bad as Lane County’s. We’re a lot better off that the residents of Eugene, given we are still “just county” (2/3 or more better off!).
The ballots were waiting when I showed up in the morning, and the property tax bill was delivered today. It went up 4%, partly due to an increase in funding for the 911 system. One of the few measures we both voted for. I’ve worked with them when I was fire/EMS, calling in fires, and requesting ambulance services. They needed the money for an upgrade; Flyover County is a hard one to cover.
For those who don’t know – Between prop 5 and prop 50:
Can only increase property taxable value 3% (not real value), which means even if real value drops, taxable value can go up (and has for most of every 46 years we’ve owned our house), as long as it is still below estimated real value. Translates into about 3% actual tax increase for most properties.
But special taxes voted on can increase taxes past that percentage.
“Property tax is based on that property’s assessed value. According to Oregon law, that value can’t go up more than three percent in a year unless there have been changes, such as the addition of a new structure” (new not previously existing house, not rebuilding after say fire, or added square footage).
“Taxes on any individual property may not exceed Measure 5 tax limits of $5 per $1000 of assessed value for schools and $10 per $1000 for non schools”
“Voter-approved bonds may exceed the Measure 5 limits, but other temporary levies may not”
“New property tax levies may only be approved at a general election with at least half of the registered voters eligible to vote”
Note even if we sell our existing home to buyers for more than the taxable assessed value, that only proves the real value and allows the assessed value to go up by 3%, but no more.
Is this better than other states? IDK. But it has saved us money.
The other advantage we personally have is we are county, not city (yet. Eugene has only been trying, and failing, for 63 years that I know of.)
$SPOUSE and I agree on all but the pay increase commission. I’ve seen such as a way for TPTB to get what they want without getting the blame (see redistricting commissions), while she thinks it’s less bad that the original.
Meanwhile, we’re trying to get everything we need in advance in case 118 passes. That one should be in the dictionary as the example of “sleazy”. Tax the corps, so they raise prices, thus a back door sales tax, while trying to leave TPTB “blameless”.
About the “CALL HER DADDY” woman: Should we address her and refer to her as ‘Daddy’? Or should we get in contact with her father?
Oh, so very Yes about the good old days when we could buffer videos! (And do websites finish loading sooner these days than they did in the 90s on dialup?)
The picture of Kaptain Kamala at the helm of the FEMA boat needs a bow wave drenching the American family.
The 70s and 80s were some pretty good days, even with impending atomic armageddons and ice ages and nuclear winters. And the 90s were so good, not even both Clintons together could completely wreck things. The most they could do was pop a few poison pills.
Not until late 2001 did I really hear that Ominous Cello in the soundtrack.
Late ’80s and early ’90s, for all that I was getting harassed and made miserable at school. Prices were reasonable, travel was safe, you could wander all over northern Europe without having to constantly watch your back in “good parts of town.” The economy was darn decent to good.
I was thinking the other day that I’d like to go back to the regional culture and national politics of the 1980s, with the coffee shops, blogs, and research internet of today. And e-books would be nice, too, but not vital.
The Native Americans enslaved each other, along with Americans they captured — well, other than those they tortured to death. No discussion of slavery is complete without pointing out the fact that there are now more slaves on Earth than there have ever been.
I’ve heard that too. It’s in absolute numbers, and given the explosion of the population, we can have the most slaves (absolutely) and the fewest proportionately.
I should have put in some context. Those previous writers who brought up the craziness of leftists reminded me of the 1619 project and their assertion that this was when the first slave set foot on American soil. Right. These people are the Know-Nothings of our age.
We wandered off into a discussion up at the top of the comments, about slavery and the silliness of the people who blame Columbus for introducing it to the Americas (and into Africa).
Now, why Frances’ comment ended up so far down here? WPDE.
Nephew-in-law used to do loans for the sales through Enterprise (until they shut down that division). Went first to a large dealership (multiple dealerships locally). They put him at Lexis. Guess what? If someone can afford the status of a new Lexis, they pay cash. If they pay cash, he doesn’t get a bank commission for a loan.
If someone at that level needs a loan to manage cashflow, they take out a margin loan on stock they hold from the broker they hold it with. Even for something large like a home purchase. The worst that can happen is the securing stock gets sold. This appears in the transaction as a cash purchase. This is where the “bought a house with cash” money is coming from, at least if it’s not overseas money.
So, yeah, CBS’ “expert” is full of it. Nobody who is “rich” is going to fill out a loan form in the dealership.
Used to be ANY loan interest was deductible, just like first two personal home loans (including RV’s, but only 2). Been a few decades (I think went away in the ’80s, but might have been ’90s).
Also, I am guilty of using art-house film language, but I generally do so for trashy European exploitation pictures. For instance, Jean Rollin’s vampire films genuinely have a dreamlike atmosphere, though I’m sure they put some people to sleep.
I was re-reading some of the memes from August and ran across this one:
Let me offer you my definition of social justice: I keep what I earn and you keep what you earn. Do you disagree? Well then tell me how much of what I earn belongs to you — and why?
Walter E. Williams
I would turn that last bit around:
tell me how much of what you earn belongs to me — and why?
According To Hoyt 
I’m going to quibble about that “1.6%” one: You didn’t have to own slaves to be pro-slavery any more than you had to have been a slave to be anti-slavery.
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Still, they like to blame folks like me, who haven’t had family here on the continent until my Great Grands got here, and were rather poor to begin with, for their African enemies selling their ancestors off to the traders.
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Well, the one set of Great Greats were French Canuckistani, but I try to forget about that (~_^)
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you got better….
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I hope I’ve overcome the French and French Canuki in me (~_^)
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Too many Greats to count (or determine), but Grandma Pete’s family seems to have emigrated from Normandy to a lace-making area of England in the 13 or 14 hundreds. So French, diluted by lots of time.
This is contrary to Grandma’s assertion that her family welcomed the Indians when the tribe showed up in western Iowa. :)
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funny. gran’s side of the family (the dublin side) were either Normans or Huegenots. Thankfully they became well Gaelicised. ;-)
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Well, a lot of tribes didn’t show up in Iowa and the Dakotas until other tribes had thrown them out of where they were living, and that was more in Emily Dickinson’s time or Jane Austen’s time than in the early Colonial times.
There’s also the thing with the Iroquois/Six Nations/Seven Nations taking over vast tracts of the historical Northwest Territory and Kentucky, driving out all other tribes, and not settling there but using them as fur farms. So when white settlers first showed up, the land was empty for hundreds of miles; and that was just about the time when the other tribes started coming back to their old lands, where they hadn’t been for fifty years or so.
So yup, it was entirely possible that some white people were already settled in some places before Indians showed up.
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Two things.
By the time upper Europe, English, French, etc., showed up on the east cost of the North America of the US and Canada, the Spanish had already landed on the south American coast lines. Besides joining the local neighbors to defeat the Aztec’s (not a bad thing, honestly, they also spread horses and decease that swept through the entirety of the continent. Certainly not the last time, but the damage had been started. Thus by the time the first settlers showed up the people on the ground had already been thinned by other means than native aboriginal political movement.
Other item. This just came in from The Applegate Oregon reunion:
So the dates I’ve been stating, 1645, is off by, um, a few years. (Heck until recently, I didn’t know that branch of the family had been in the US that long. Since 1760’s, yes as there are copies of the appropriate weddings and birth certificates required for Revolution scholarships. But before that? No.)
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I once pointed out to a Ieftist that my mother’s lineage (Volga Valley Germans) arrived well AFTER the Thirteenth Amendment was passed. His reply was that those immigrants had benefited from the country “built on sIavery” and so were equally guilty.
Which just goes to show that there’s no point in talking to those people.
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Actually slavery is not a value add. And this country was not built on slavery MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
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And then- what they fail to say- the origin of the word “slave”, coming from the Slavs of Europe, who were apparently enslaved by virtually everyone else. Including Africans…
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Until the 1600s, more Europeans were enslaved by the Ottomans and Barbary Pirates than Africans or other non-Europeans were enslaved by Europeans. Something like 100,000 Europeans passed through the markets in Constantinople/Istanbul per year in the 1500s and early 1600s. And no one knows how many millions of Africans the Arab slavers carried off between AD 700 and 1900.
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The human mind tends to be a thing of habits and laziness. They have to be somehow shocked into actually thinking.
This is not an easy task.
Most common conversational gambits are not carefully thought out philosophies with deep background and reasoning. They are simply rote responses. When a leftist responds with some variation of “-ist!” or the like, they are not, note well, actually thinking.
They are regurgitating pre-chewed crap that they’ve been fed by the media and the maleducation system. You are not having a conversation. You are listening to an automated message with no human brain behind it. Thus brick/wall.
For example: Some of my coworkers at a different job used to complain about “the rich.” They don’t pay enough taxes! They take too much profit! They don’t pay their workers enough! They are greedy bastages!
I responded that I would like to be rich someday. I don’t want to fork over 60%+ of my pay, I want to use that for my future children, my wife, my family (should I acquire those things). Don’t you want to be rich, too? Don’t be stealing from your future self!
This, coming from a completely unexpected angle, made them stop and think. Leftists have rote responses for many conversational gambits, all the way up to “don’t confuse me. I know what I think!” (note, they do not here, actually think)
Engaging with our opposite numbers is a headache, yes, but engage we must. Internet arguing is a spectator sport, as Larry is wont to say- and he is right. So is public argumentation. If you hone your logic and tactics well, you might even surprise some people. Humor, especially, is the sneaky dagger that can slip through the armor of profound willful ignorance.
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Yeah, like the U.P. of Michigan has scads of items built upon slave labor.
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It’s been a while since I’ve been to the U.P. (60 years? Yikes!), but “slaves” might count as long as they have a last name of “Caterpillar”.
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Or me, got to america just before WWI
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So imagine there was a place during the period of the transatlantic slave trade where, if a slave stepped foot on its soil, that person instantly became free. And imagine that place spent treasure, ships and lives in a decades-long effort to stamp out the transatlantic slave trade for purely moral reasons. And then imaging in spite of all that, that place is hated with white hot fury by the left, because they were colonialist oppressors and also pale.
There was such a place, Great Britain.
In the course of looking up this I found a interesting 1774 case in Scotland, link https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/learning/slavery/slavery-freedom-or-perpetual-servitude-the-joseph-knight-case , where a fellow brought into Scotland as a “perpetual servant”, who had been purchased as a slave in Jamaica, sought, successfully, to be allowed to leave the service of his “owner”, in part based on prior case judgements, specifically referring to Smith v Gould heard in English courts in 1706, which had held:
”…a slave or Negroe the Instant he lands in England becomes a free man that is the Law will protect him in enjoyment of his person And his property Yet with regard to any right…”
The courts agreed, through appeals all the way up to the supreme civil court in Scotland, and that court affirmed the lower court’s ruling that:
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But the law in Britain, Wales and Scotland was written by, and the judges ruling on this and other similar cases were, pale people, so they must be evil, say the the idiots and leftists, but I repeat myself.
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Perhaps, but you don’t need to hate the descendants of the 98.4% for something that a) their ancestors didn’t do b) ended over 100 years ago.
There are far more important things going on, like can someone explain the map one? I don’t get that one.
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See https://accordingtohoyt.com/2024/10/17/the-poisoned-stream/
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Ah, thank you.
scampers off to read
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And now I am alternating between eye-rolls, facepalms, and hysterical laughter.
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So are we all.
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Lon Chaney voice and accent from “The Hand”:
“It was the mud! The mud killed them!!”
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Duh. Not Lon Chaney , but Peter Lorre, in “The Beast With Five Fingers.”
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Precisely.
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Yes, but being pro-slavery is not a tort.
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Isn’t “tort” another word for ham sandwich?
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A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, but it is not a tort. A strawberry jam-filled pastry is also not in and of itself a tort, though it could be a tart, although that could also be a loose woman. There is nothing in the law that defines a loose woman, nor a tight woman. So, there you go, and wherever you go, there you are.
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Tort, torta, torte… “Give me six lines written by the most honest tortoise and I’ll find something in them to hang him for. Or indict him. Either’s good.”
“…and wherever you go, there you are.”
Why does everyone I meet always tell me this?
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“Everybody gotta be someplace.” – from a bit by Myron Cohen.
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It’s the call for a call-and-response passphrase to see if you are a member of the secret club.
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or challenge, challenge-and-response.
Generally call-and-response is sung.
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“It’s a big club. And you ain’t in it.”
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“I don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.”
Groucho, the smart Marx
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I don’t know if it originated there, but the phrase was used a fair amount in the Buckaroo Banzai movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Buckaroo_Banzai_Across_the_8th_Dimension
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No matter where you don’t go, there you aren’t.
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Well, then. That’s some tortuous prose.
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Now is that pastry fully enclosing said jam? Because a jammy dodger sounds right nice right now, and especially if it’s after being delivered by a tart. Possibly even a tart with a cart.
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If the tart tart’s cart’s departed, you needn’t feel downhearted, just start your pump a-thumpin’ to the crumpet strumpet’s trumpet.
(When she gets a-blowin’ it she sets the jam a-flowin’…)
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I should really feck you into the LIffey for that … :lol:
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Danny Kaye’s ghost would like a word with you, Uppity.
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is that a re tort?
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Look, ABC News, I’m already voting for him and have my Republican poll watcher certification. You can stop closing now.
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Poll watcher training was interesting. They have all these things you are allowed to verify if you’re there when the voting machines are being worked on…. and NONE of them mention verifying that you need to check wi-fi and Bluetooth before you can say the machine isn’t connected to the internet. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
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I hear they use floating point arithmetic. That makes my ignorant intuition itch. Also, Lampposts Without Lawyers forbids us commoners to look at the software.
What would have happened if some oddball misfit troublemaking know-it-all geeky poo-paddling weirdo had complained about WiFi and Bluetooth?
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The Machines That Shall Not Be Named not only store votes as floats, there is a ‘feature’ which can apply a scale factor to the votes for each candidate. So each vote for candidate T might be stored as 0.8, and candidate B votes stored as 1.2. Both would display as 1 when rounded to an int, but when added up they produce very different totals.
The MTSNBN were originally designed to rig elections for Hugo Chavez. All those ‘features’ are still present.
One security specialist cracked into voting machines with ease, using a wireless tablet from the parking lot. Instead of praise for finding a gaping security hole, he was charged with a crime.
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“Instead of praise for finding a gaping security hole, he was charged with a crime.”
And rightly so! Clearly, a shameless act of lèse-majesté!
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“Meme Meme Meme” let’s hope it’s the lady clearing her throat.
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…and not MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN gone through the oughta-corrupt.
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And then the customers of the VPN companies realize 2 things:
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And now you understand.
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TorBrowser is no more “private” or “anonymous” than a VPN, and more and more websites block it, but you don’t give up your banking/credit card info.
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Regarding the $750 meme, a minor correction:
Do not use sheet metal for the blade. It doesn’t hold an edge worth crap, it bends and buckles after the first few dozen or so, and any decent machine shop can whip up a good steel blade in about two shakes. Plus, supporting your local machine shop (or tinker neighbor) is just good business practice.
Plus, it saves on avgas for the helicopter, which is the other option.
Or, you know, you could just use rope. Plenty of trees, streetlights, overpasses, bridges and whatnot, seeing as we’re being all traditional now.
Roofing tar ain’t too expensive, and feathers are easy to get if you’re more of the merciful type. Or maybe you think they might be trainable, with a bit of effort.
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Use a 1/4″ steel plate. Granted, grinding the edge on it will take a while. Then heat the edge and about 2″ of the blade red-hot and quench it.
Helicopters DO NOT run on aviation gasoline! They burn kerosene, jet-A or JP-5. I’m tired of seeing people make that mistake.
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Plenty of helicopters still running on AvGas, brother.
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Way cheaper to fly piston-engine helos per hour of free rides as well. But per-ride what matters is how many free rides you can give in a single hop. Turbines/Jet-A start make sense when you have larger loads.
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Wiki says a Chinook can carry 55 passengers. Just sayin’.
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That’s properly seated, too. There are stories about how many can be crammed in standing-room-only in things like emergency evacuations.
But for free rides the flight crew needs some room for, well, reorganizing said passengers midway through the hop.
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I’d use Kasenit for the blade’s edge, myself. Not sure how much good you’re going to get heating and quenching mild steel, and 1/4″ plate won’t have much carbon, so it’s mild.
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Serious question from a know-nothing, here: could you heat the edge for a goodly while in a bed of charcoal or coal or… idk, something carbon-y–to toughen it up?
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It’s been a hell of a long time since I did heat treatment, but yeah. Kasenit (and similar compounds) are sticky carbon-bearing goodies. You’d want red-hot heat, and should hold it for a while (faint memory says we did it for a few minutes in a non-critical application in high-school shop).
Heat, diffuse carbon into the steel, quench. That should do the trick. (Thinks about the 5/16″ plate sitting in the stockpile…)
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Or alternately, $750 of good rope, and your throughput increases quite a bit….
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in a dom lit shop, more like orange going yellow.
Use a magnet. When it stops sticking, the carbon steel is above the critical temperature.
You can, with practice, estimate carbon content of straight carbon steel by grinding. Called “spark test”. If you get short straight streaks with no “burst”, it’s low carbon. Long streaks that burst like a firework are higher carbon.
For knives and related, you walt 0.5 to 1.5. Right around 0.9 is a sweet spot.
example: 1095 carbon steel with 0.95%. Which is dandy for basic knife making. Quench in oil.
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Ted Nugent left out
Rock Stars lecture on healthy lifestyle choices and wise life decisions.
(grin)
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Well, when Alice Cooper talks about alcoholism, I’d listen. He knows aaall about it.
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On the “talking to a brick wall” thing, this is why I advocate for stopping the use of the term “illegal immigrants” and starting calling them trespassers instead. It’s shorter, it’s punchier, and it’s harder for the Left to deliberately confuse the issue.
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‘Invaders’ or ‘infiltrators’ works too.
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criminal border jumpers
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“Illegal aliens” worked fine, without sounding like it was trying extra-hard to demonize anybody. Why not stick with it? Every year there’s an ever more niggardly dole of whitelisted terms!
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Hell, “niggardly” got blacklisted by somebody too ignorant to know the term.
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Yep, I remember that case. That was when it became my New Favorite Word.
I’m surprised that “False Dichotomy” still isn’t under assault.
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Rush Limbaugh would have had a ball with that. It’s go nicely with his Addadictomy and the (IMHO clumsy) Choppadicoffofmy.
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Man, Rush Limbaugh and Jerry Pournelle are the two Famous Names I really, really miss.
And Fred Reed says he’s quit his column too; sounds like it’s to do with his health.
:Raises glass:
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But the undecided voters whom you’re trying to win over won’t agree. Invaders? No, they’re just trying to make a better life for their family, they’ll say. But trespassers is impossible to deny. I mean, the hardcore Left will deny it, but the hardcore Left has abandoned all pretense of caring about Truth. What we’re aiming for is the undecided middle, the ones who still care about truth but don’t pay close enough attention to know that the news is lying to them. They’ll think you’re overexaggerating if you call them invaders (because they haven’t heard enough of the facts), and stop listening. But if you call them trespassers, that’s a concept they immediately know is accurate.
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Colonialists, or colonizers.
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It’s a plantation, just like in Ulster.
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We all know shit burns, so if you are in a ravaged area and are cold, fema workers should provide plenty of heat.
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Haven’t had my coffee yet. [Wink]
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The ‘Trudeau’ one is a vile slander against the noble Mr. Popo.
Sarah definitely needs a Random Axe Of Violence!
If Adam and Eve had been Cajuns they would have eaten the snake AND the apple.
The text in ‘Failed the testy’ is illegible. Zooming in just produces a pixelated mess. Meme doesn’t make much sense if you can’t read the text.
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The future of dating is a bit wrong. The sad girl has no ugly visible tattoos, no strange colored hair, and isn’t grossly overweight.
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The Reader thinks that since she is wishing for the 666 it doesn’t matter much what she looks like…
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CrayCray Helliphant
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Vanity, Greed, Envy, Sloth, Gluttony, Deceit. Those are not sins to Leftroids; those are what they consider virtues.
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Only as long as they’re doing it.
If other people do it, then it is wrong.
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…for all values of “it”
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You forgot Pride.
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Considering how hard the socialist Left pushes us toward Submission to our betters, they might not think of Pride as a virtue.
But Envy? “Thou shalt too covet!” is the load-bearing plank in their platform, and their emotional engine.
The commandment not to do it wasn’t there to pad the list to 10.
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I was think of Pride parades.
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Heh. That didn’t even cross my mind til you mentioned it. What with so many different pots of bubbling crazy on the steam table, I guess that one didn’t make it to my tray.
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I see Pride as a proper attitude regarding a job well done or doing the Right Thing even when it’s not popular. Vanity is more of an unearned poor imitation. Which is why it’s so popular among Leftroids; no effort is required.
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How could I ever forget Pride?!
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🤣🤣🤣
👏👏👏
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In other news.
Our Oregon voter pamphlet showed up last week.
The mail delivery email shows our Oregon ballots supposed to show up today. Supposed to because while the email in question is accurate 99% of the time, but we have had mail pieces expected and looking for, get delayed. Not much we have come in the mail we care about. But things like CC’s, drivers licenses, car titles, CCL permits, we watch for. Only one piece so far did not show up on the day that the email delivery list said it was suppose to – one of the CCL’s. Showed up the next delivery day (Monday), but still.
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I’ll know if our came in when I’m in town on Tuesday. I’d be really annoyed if it’s later than the 29th (we use the county clerk’s office drop box). The mail-drop people thought that they might show up last week on the 16th, but since we’re one of those right-wing counties, I wasn’t going to count on it.
Vote-fraud by mail (as mandated by statute) sucks raw eggs.
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According to the clerk’s website, all ballots should have been mailed by the 16th. Arggh.
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Mine is supposedly in today’s mail.
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Our ballots showed up today, Saturday, Oct 19.
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we got our pamphlet (state / federal) early last week and the ballots a few days later.. can’t really remember exactly when as the missus went into the hospital on Tuesday and didn’t come home til yesterday. The local pamphlet (city/ county) came about two plus weeks ago.,
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hope your wife is okay?
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Oof. She is now. We went to the ER Saturday (8 days ago) evening via ambulance due to possible heart attack. Got diagnosed as something else that’s a catch-all diagnosis. Went back to urgent care Tuesday with jaundice, got sent to hospital for MRI for gallstones, etc. She had a stuck gallstone so the bile was backing up (incidentally causing Saturday’s problem), so she had that removed Thursday, and then the gallbladder Friday, and finally came home again yesterday.
Jaysus it’s been a week.
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Hugs from a Sassenach (though Ancestry dropped my percentage of Irish and, I think, added a bit of Scots. And Cornish).
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Careful, long-distance hugs. I’m glad to hear she’s at home and resting. Let us know if there’s aught we can do, in addition to kind thoughts.
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Sounds like it. HUGS.
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And it may not be over. If they didn’t catch any of the gallstones, there’s the pancreatic duct they can clog. Not fun, as I can personally attest.
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They did, and they did brush the pancreatic duct, but there was no reaction, thankfully
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Eek!
Hugs.
Glad she is home and on the mend!
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Yikes! Hope things continue improving.
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Sure they were mailed, date stamped and everything, then packed on boxes to be securely transported to a holding facility, adjacent to a juvenile detention center and well stocked with incindiaries.
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Today is market day. If the ballots aren’t at the mail drop, I’ll pay a visit to the county clerk’s office. Might have to for another reason; property tax office is the next window over. Which does wonders for bond issues that show up for for November elections. [VBEG]
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Haven’t seen our property tax bill, yet. Going to have to guesstimate (VS WAG, because it shouldn’t be too much higher, given Oregon’s limits) to add to October amount needed from IRA’s to finish paying off this months bills.
Yes it does. Yours aren’t as bad as Lane County’s. We’re a lot better off that the residents of Eugene, given we are still “just county” (2/3 or more better off!).
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The ballots were waiting when I showed up in the morning, and the property tax bill was delivered today. It went up 4%, partly due to an increase in funding for the 911 system. One of the few measures we both voted for. I’ve worked with them when I was fire/EMS, calling in fires, and requesting ambulance services. They needed the money for an upgrade; Flyover County is a hard one to cover.
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That is Oregon property taxes.
For those who don’t know – Between prop 5 and prop 50:
Note even if we sell our existing home to buyers for more than the taxable assessed value, that only proves the real value and allows the assessed value to go up by 3%, but no more.
Is this better than other states? IDK. But it has saved us money.
The other advantage we personally have is we are county, not city (yet. Eugene has only been trying, and failing, for 63 years that I know of.)
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$SPOUSE and I agree on all but the pay increase commission. I’ve seen such as a way for TPTB to get what they want without getting the blame (see redistricting commissions), while she thinks it’s less bad that the original.
Meanwhile, we’re trying to get everything we need in advance in case 118 passes. That one should be in the dictionary as the example of “sleazy”. Tax the corps, so they raise prices, thus a back door sales tax, while trying to leave TPTB “blameless”.
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If they want a raise, it should go on the ballot, with multiple options:
If they want more money, they have to risk something. If they’ve been doing a shitty job, they should get a pay cut.
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I’m in this picture [top one] and I don’t like it.
Especially since I’m the editor, at this stage.
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Liberte! Egalite! Maintenance de routine!
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Those things are even more entertaining when you combine the concept of “Guillotine” with “Pachinko Machine”.
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straitjacket! :petpeeve:
About the “CALL HER DADDY” woman: Should we address her and refer to her as ‘Daddy’? Or should we get in contact with her father?
Oh, so very Yes about the good old days when we could buffer videos! (And do websites finish loading sooner these days than they did in the 90s on dialup?)
The picture of Kaptain Kamala at the helm of the FEMA boat needs a bow wave drenching the American family.
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It is traditional for a meme to have at least one stpuid spelling mistake.
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St. Puid protect me when I sin against St. Fu.
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Drenching? More like washing them right off their roof. Then dunking them with a giant rooster tail wake.
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When i think “good old days” i think 70s-80s
now those were some fun times
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The 70s and 80s were some pretty good days, even with impending atomic armageddons and ice ages and nuclear winters. And the 90s were so good, not even both Clintons together could completely wreck things. The most they could do was pop a few poison pills.
Not until late 2001 did I really hear that Ominous Cello in the soundtrack.
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Late ’80s and early ’90s, for all that I was getting harassed and made miserable at school. Prices were reasonable, travel was safe, you could wander all over northern Europe without having to constantly watch your back in “good parts of town.” The economy was darn decent to good.
I was thinking the other day that I’d like to go back to the regional culture and national politics of the 1980s, with the coffee shops, blogs, and research internet of today. And e-books would be nice, too, but not vital.
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The Native Americans enslaved each other, along with Americans they captured — well, other than those they tortured to death. No discussion of slavery is complete without pointing out the fact that there are now more slaves on Earth than there have ever been.
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Er…. WHAT?
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I’ve heard that too. It’s in absolute numbers, and given the explosion of the population, we can have the most slaves (absolutely) and the fewest proportionately.
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Sure. I just wondered why post that in the comments of the meme post.
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There were all the slavery-related comments up at the top of the comments, and WP likely just did it’s normal random-placement thing…
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I should have put in some context. Those previous writers who brought up the craziness of leftists reminded me of the 1619 project and their assertion that this was when the first slave set foot on American soil. Right. These people are the Know-Nothings of our age.
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still on the wrong post which is puzzling?
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We wandered off into a discussion up at the top of the comments, about slavery and the silliness of the people who blame Columbus for introducing it to the Americas (and into Africa).
Now, why Frances’ comment ended up so far down here? WPDE.
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Oh. Okay.
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Says a lot:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaQ3HEyWwAAVZKI?format=jpg
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And another:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaB3lfzXkAA5gz9?format=jpg
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Nephew-in-law used to do loans for the sales through Enterprise (until they shut down that division). Went first to a large dealership (multiple dealerships locally). They put him at Lexis. Guess what? If someone can afford the status of a new Lexis, they pay cash. If they pay cash, he doesn’t get a bank commission for a loan.
CBS in the meme … Idiots.
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If someone at that level needs a loan to manage cashflow, they take out a margin loan on stock they hold from the broker they hold it with. Even for something large like a home purchase. The worst that can happen is the securing stock gets sold. This appears in the transaction as a cash purchase. This is where the “bought a house with cash” money is coming from, at least if it’s not overseas money.
So, yeah, CBS’ “expert” is full of it. Nobody who is “rich” is going to fill out a loan form in the dealership.
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Used to be ANY loan interest was deductible, just like first two personal home loans (including RV’s, but only 2). Been a few decades (I think went away in the ’80s, but might have been ’90s).
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Thank you, much better batch than the other one that comes out on Saturdays. ;) The Scotsman telling off Bono wins the week for me.
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Also, I am guilty of using art-house film language, but I generally do so for trashy European exploitation pictures. For instance, Jean Rollin’s vampire films genuinely have a dreamlike atmosphere, though I’m sure they put some people to sleep.
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A bit dated now, I suppose, but:
Jose Consecobarbital
Well, baseball puts me to sleep…
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I was re-reading some of the memes from August and ran across this one:
I would turn that last bit around:
I think it would make more impact that way.
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