Another Turn Of The Wheel

All over the world, the pseudo-expert elites are embattled and being challenged by increasingly more vocal masses who have had about enough.

In a way it’s a very recognizable landscape to students of history, and it will make you go “um…. I see it.”

Or at least it should be recognizable, because in the history of mankind there have been many such periods of equilibrium that finally break and lend to periods of extreme turmoil.

The turmoil isn’t always bad, and the result suddenly isn’t always bad, but while it’s happening, it feels like the world itself is coming apart, even in the places not afflicted by turmoil and horror.

In a way this is a continuing of the turmoil from the eighteenth century, even if the “nobility” is wearing a different mask. What you have to understand is that Marx, and his theories, and the thing they whelped were not revolutions, but an attempt by the “elites” to stop the the revolution and establish a new equilibrium where they could again ride mankind as though we’d been born with saddles. But the patch put on the software doesn’t work. The system is not stable. And it’s now obviously tearing itself apart.

Yeah, I see you looking at me with the look on your faces that’s best transcribed as “Arooo?”

Look, Marx glomed onto the somewhat cyclical nature of history (over the very, very long run) and decided it was not only a much shorter cycle, applicable to the problems of his time, but also that it was all going to automagically work to gratify envious grifters.

Then he wrapped it all in the words of superiority and expertise, and it’s been killing millions ever since.

But its one actual, appreciable effect was to mimic the end of a cycle. Or rather its devotees brought about extreme instability and mimicked the end of a cycle over and over again, in a sort of blood-soaked cargo-cult, thereby satisfying Marx’s idea of:

Instability — revolution –?????? — Utopia.

It hasn’t worked, not in the long run, because it’s not an organic cycle, it’s an underwear gnome on.

The first attempt at such a reset was actually pre-Marx and trying to mimic the organic nature of the American revolution (Which was the first fruit of cycle change due to unique circumstances, and yes, I’ll explain) and what it ended up doing after the revolution and the ???? was letting things go back to the way they were, but hitting just in time for the Marxist deformations, which means the “new” system patch on the old system worked worse than the old one even in disintegration.

Every other one since, as well as attempts to install part of Marx’s patch to avoid revolution which Marx assures us will come otherwise (here, most of the west, etc etc) only leads to the same weird mix of old and new, with the new being worse than the old, somehow.

So, to explain, humanity, over the very, very long periods of time goes through cycles which we’ll call diaspora. This means we spread out, colonize “new” territory (new to the group. We’ve been stealing land from each other from prehistory because land we could use and get to was limited and almost always had other humans on it. BTW the whole “the frontier is closed” is bullshit on the same order as thinking we live worse than in the fifties. In our 4x larger homes. Sure. There is no land anywhere where there aren’t some humans and which are not claimed by some potentate. And? The point being we can get to other hands very fast. What is happening with the idiots streaming over our border is that they think they’re conquering new frontiers. And I’m going to stand by idiots. Because they’re traipsing into the lion’s den and going “I’ll make this the dining room.” But that’s a whole other post. Except that again, it’s the “elites” attempt to turn back the tide and back engineer Marx’s revolution to their profit. It will end in tears. Of blood.)

These are relatively free times (and part of the reason that the American revolution was the much-advanced “first fruits even while the rest of the world was still going the other way.) Then something forces the centralization of authority, power, etc. And centralization (to whatever degree. In the stone age it might be merely to tribe level) proceeds driven by by the fact the humans who want power want more of it. The methods for keeping the masses under foot are refined. Humanity is bound hand and foot.

Until something breaks that control. In the past this has been a combination of new territories opening up and some technological break through or cataclysm.

I know I’m going to make Suburban yell at me, because this is not true in close analysis, but in macro, from a distance analysis, let’s look at feudalism.

It came about because of the threat of invasion from the coasts, mostly, by Vikings or Moors, depending where you were, and it ran on like that, with the system of keeping the serfs quiet and tied to the land refining its old, even as the “lords” became less and less useful for their original purpose, and mostly devolving to fighting each other.

The black death broke its hold on the human spirit, allowed people to create new types of society, etc. At the same time the hyper-centralization went on because the king allied with the new classes of clerks and lawyers (so, the innovation was writing things down and creating written laws.)

Then the centralization from the king started to become burdensome, and the clerks and lawyers started to tighten and tighten such rules, until they themselves became burdensome. And then there were colonies, but the power of the king followed colonists (because travel wasn’t that onerous, and there were those writs. Note, what they’re called.)

America is where the first fruits of the discontent of the people: the disbelief with the wet-paper efficacy of the aristocracy, the anger at the ever tightening rules, the belief in the inherent dignity of humans no matter what their condition at birth (a patch installed by Christianity) etc. all culminated.

In a way it was early. Very early. It was brought about by the fact the English monarchy had other worries at the time, and was over extended.

Left alone, the French mimicry would have run through its course, and gone back to a king and stayed that way, though maybe more in the manner of the English monarchy with some French twists.

Except the elites installed the Marx patch. No? Oh, please. As far back as you look, you can see the minor gentry and nobles head over heels for it. The “people” and “the workers” were the weapon they used. The battering ram. They were not the people who swallowed Marx hook line and sink. Marxism is a craze of the elites, who impose it from above.

Oh, it is supported by envious scoundrels of all classes, and powered by envy. But what it actually does is turn the righteous fury of the masses at the boot in their necks into a lot of blood, death and suffering and destruction of wealth ending mostly, in the long run, with the descendants of the “old families” mounted, booted and spurred on the saddles they install on others’ backs. Instead of into something like what we had here which manages to still work, even with the FDR Marxist patch. In the default more often than not, but still work.

Thing is the Marxism patch is failing.

To be fair, it always sucked. The only reason it stayed on at all is that the elites had full control of the press, and story is really powerful. In “news” “entertainment” and “art” they told the same story, which always pushed for the rule by experts, and “scientific” improvements to society.

All of them, pretty much, were crazy, from devaluing of humanity and humans to the point that we’re facing a radical de-population event and we have vast swathes of young people who… hate humans without ever asking themselves “as opposed to what?” To treating humans as widgets either according to “class” or “race” or whatever pseudo-scientific classification that fits no actual individual human.

But now–

Well, now there’s a way to know what is happening and the narrative doesn’t fit.

And there’s a new frontier. Several, in fact. It’s ironic, but also illustrative of the process we’re going through right now that both the internet and work from home resulted from the elites attempts at getting a closer hold on the population: Arpanet, and the Covidiocy.

But trust me, as someone who moved from a technically fly-over area, but fly over where the elites play, to true “flyover” country, it is very much a new frontier, and land is cheap. (Though for various reasons we got very little.) New frontiers. All over. That people can leave the large, easily controllable cities for and where they can work and prosper.

The thing is once the system starts falling apart, once the critical innovation has been made, all attempts to flail against it bring about more decay and the establishment of the new system.

In a way this is a continuation of the 18th century revolution (in the US) for less centralization and more individual freedom. And in a better way we’re throwing off the Marxist patch, with its built in worship of the experts and its pseudo-scientific claims of infallibility.

Now, this is worldwide, because the technological breakthroughs are worldwide. And Elon Musk’s efforts might give our great-great-grandkids a new frontier, but before that — alas — there will be tons of internal new frontiers, as (did I mention it?) we’re facing a radical depopulation event worldwide.

In fact, those people streaming over the border, it’s my guess, are leaving behind areas in deep trouble, as they lose their (relatively) younger people. Now for kleptocratic political reasons, there might be absolutely no opportunity there for anyone under sixty. Because breaking down socialist systems are brutal on youth, as we’re finding here.

But in fifty years or so, we’re going to find vast portions of the world are for all intents and purposes depopulated.

You’d think that’s what our peculiar (I mean what I say) elites are doing, streaming the invasion in. But it’s not. They’re still trying to run the Marx patch. “Bring in the dispossessed and have them rebel and take things from the people here who refuse to submit.” Oh, it will work, here and there — it’s working like a dream in NYC — for a little while. Until it goes from bothersome to intolerable. What’s not tolerable won’t be tolerated. They forget they no longer have control of the narrative.

I’m a little sad, honestly, for the dupes streaming in and promised the Earth. The elites deserve what’s coming, and a bunch of them will manage to talk themselves out of it. But those poor saps are going to get hit hard. And there’s a danger for a lot of us who look like them, though we aren’t.

The Marx patch — international version — has stopped to work a good fifty years ago. But they’re going to keep trying to run it.

Some of their sallies and fights back against us — we’re called by so many interesting names, from deplorables to hobbits but they all mean “escaped serfs” — will succeed. It’s the nature of the beast.

And increasingly more and more of ours against them will succeed, or at least leave a deep mark.

Most of them, though, are battles. Not the war. The war is very very long. It’s been going on a long time. It will be a long time before it’s fully won. At least a hundred years, maybe more.

At the end of it, though, I am sure that the idea of infringing individual freedom will be unspeakable the world over.

Oh, the weasels will get around it. They always do, but there will be a period of lovely flowering in between.

Before it turns again.

166 thoughts on “Another Turn Of The Wheel

  1. My biggest concern is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways.” Ketanji two last names. 

    that’s the whole bloody point of it. They really are that stupid and completely lack imagination. I

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      1. just so, what strikes me though is that all this affirmative action hiring, is hurting them. She said it out loud for C’s sake. let them eat cake as someone who paid with her life for it probably never said.

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      1. And all the Democrats need to gut constitutional protections is to pack the court with more justices just like her. 

        Note that her view of the relationship between government and individual rights is the exact view stated in the Soviet “constitution”, which on the surface claimed to recognize individual rights but then completely subordinated them to the “needs” of the government.

        It is a very scary view and one that is the policy of the Democratic Party.

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    1. I can think of ways that would be a legitimate issue– “I think that removes legitimate authority from the government,” say, similar to the existence of copyright being a restriction on speech, so any interpretation that said that there was no possible restriction would fit– but I sincerely doubt she put that much thought into it.

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      1. She seems to be unaware of major prior decisions. Her questions on classified information fly right in the face of the Pentagon Papers decision:

        [Y]ou have to admit that there are certain circumstances in which the government can provide information, encourage the platforms to take it down, tell them to take it down.

        I mean, … what about the hypo of someone posting classified information? They say it’s my free speech right, I believe that I—you know, I got access to this information and I want to post it.

        Are you suggesting that the government couldn’t say to the platforms, we need to take that down? …

        https://reason.com/volokh/2024/03/19/justice-jackson-seems-to-be-charting-a-more-speech-restriction-tolerant-approach/

        For anyone not aware of this landmark decision, here’s the Wikipedia entry (I know, but this is fine):

        New York Times Co. v. United States, 403 U.S. 713, was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States on the First Amendment right to freedom of the press. The ruling made it possible for The New York Times and The Washington Post newspapers to publish the then-classified Pentagon Papers without risk of government censorship or punishment.

        It’s settled law unless she’s going for a reversal, something not argued by anyone, but Roberts is all about making stuff up from unargued points, so she might have a chance.

        So either she’s ignorant, or she’s carving out a distinction between “real” protected speech from recognized official approved publishers, and the internet stuff.

        Or both – embrace the power of “and”.

        She also is all over the pandemic as a special case, seeming to be attempting to build an “only this time we promise” exception to plain language guaranteed rights.

        Dangerous ideas from an obviously low-lumens bulb.

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            1. I think it’s kinda telling that she thinks “kids” are too stupid to know that jumping out of windows can be dangerous, and additionally thinks they’re so stupid they can’t figure out how to do so.
              (The hypothetical that she came up with, for why government could go in and force people to stop saying things, or even call up and encourage platforms to remove it…. it’s almost like she couldn’t come up with a speach thing that was an emergency and not already illegal because FREE SPEECH ISN’T AN EMERGENCY.)

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              1. It’s telling to me that her “…what about the hypo of someone posting classified information…” Law-School hypothetical is something that actually happened and went all the way to The Supremes.

                I mean, jeez.

                Unless her basis is the intertubes is totes different from print media it makes absolutely no sense at all.

                Any law school veterans that can report when they cover the Pentagon Papers case in ConLaw?

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                1. As the lawyer she was arguing with pointed out, that one can fall under strict scrutiny; “you can’t punish us” isn’t the same as “for really big, direct, and urgent things, you can ASK.”

                  And the lawyer she’s arguing with also makes it clear he’s familiar with the “what? I was just ASKING if someone could rid me of this medlesome priest, I didn’t actually SAY to kill him!” type nonsense.

                  Which is what I like to see, since the ability to argue the strengths and weaknesses makes for much stronger cases.

                  (Poking at it, that’s probably where she didn’t get much of use– a lot of the time, schools have an Obvious Answer you’re supposed to give, rather than the cases that are ACTUALLY REALISTICALLY COMPLICATED.)

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                  1. One of the downsides of Ted Cruz staying in the Senate instead of going over to The Supremes is that he would have brought experience from the other side of arguing cases. Going from some tenured Law School position or even being a lower court judge is a lot different than having experience standing up there making and defending SCOTUS oral arguments.

                    That said I think he chose correctly, but man, it would have been entertaining to read his oral argument transcripts.

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              2. It’s worth noting that when Holmes came up with the often quoted line about “shouting fire in a crowded theater,” what he was using it as a comparison for was publishing articles critical of the military draft in World War I, to justify sending people to prison for criticizing government policy. That sort of corrupt and manipulative thinking goes way back.

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                1. I seem to remember that Holmes was on the “losing side” of the discussion in the Supreme Court. :wink:

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              1. It is better!

                …and part of why I don’t trust a lot of the places commenting on what she’s said, is that they don’t say where they got it, so we can go look at it ourselves.

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          1. it *is* complete trash (hard to navigate and keeps jumping to the beginning before I get where I want)… and I absolutely love you for finding it. Thank you!!

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  2. They really are that stupid and completely lack imagination.

    Well she thinks you need to be a biologist to be able to admit you know what a woman is. So, stupid she is indeed.

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    1. She also believes that the First Amendment grants Freedom of Speech. That’s the potentially more important – but more subtle – item that I got from her confirmation hearing.

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    2. Marsha Blackburn missed a devastating comeback on that one: “So you do stipulate that the word ‘woman’ is defined by biology.”

      Which flips their ‘trans’ wagon over and dumps it right into the ditch. Where it belongs.

      ———————————

      Girls are not boys. Boys are not girls. Those are basic biological facts, which you can’t change by wishing at them.

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  3. with the descendants of the “old families” mounted, booted and spurred on the saddles they install on others’ backs

    The other day, I watched a YouTube video about “why is Russia so screwed up?” Seeing Putin swaggering through the Summer Palace in Saint Petersburg made me think the same thing (although less equestrianly).

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    1. I heard the most sarcastic delivery of news ever, in my life, this morning.

      The announcer was reading off the Russian election results. I didn’t know you could mix Iowa nice with that much verbal looking off to the side and whistling innocently.

      “Wow! Gosh! He was re-elected for an unprecedented amount of time, with an amazing percent of the vote! Isn’t that just amazing?”

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      1. You forgot the part about how all his opponents either died or were thrown in prison. :-o (That’s my shocked face)

        The Democrats are watching, and taking notes. They think that’s a jolly good way to run an election; no annoying uncertainty about the outcome, like the unpleasant surprise they got in 2016.

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        1. No, there were three other guys on the ballot.

          The one that would speak on an interview was asked something like “why should you win instead of Putin” and, shortened, said “I dunno, he’s a great guy, can’t say a bad thing about him.”

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              1. OTOH, I heard part of Nikki Haley’s concession speech and was appalled at the amount of bitchiness she managed to slide into an otherwise anodyne speech. I truly did not know she had it in her.

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                1. Anyone who’s in politics has it in them. It pretty much comes with the ego needed in order to even consider running for president. But that doesn’t mean she needed to put it on display.

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                2. I honestly didn’t follow her after seeing her performance at the Iowa State fair.

                  She worked hard to cash in on the “gosh I’m pro-life” thing… while repeating every bloody (phrase chosen deliberately) justification for killing off the unwanted that was old when I was a kid.

                  Total flashback to the 90s.

                  And her only offered reason to vote for her was… “I’m young!”

                  Gosh. And yet she sounded like the old guys when I was a kid. What a deal!

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        2. what’s the difference between a Russian election and a NYC election? The alphabet. Fill in your own North American Mogadishu, it’ll fit.

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  4. It’s not just that they’re losing their young and motivated, from what I can tell, there’s about a 10% death rate of everyone going through the Darien Gap.

    It’s going to get very bad everywhere that’s sending people here, even without us sending them all back. Very bad.

    And ties right back into that fundamental infertility problem humans have, too.

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  5. they’re traipsing into the lion’s den and going “I’ll make this the dining room.”

    That’s probably quite true (metaphorically), but Guess Who’s Coming for to be Dinner?

    Muses over the situation in Haiti. OTOH, I can’t see anybody making moves in there, even the “We’ll take a village” crowd.

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    1. When you’re invited to dine with cannibals, consider the wording of the invitation very carefully.

      “It’s fine! They’re just here to serve us!”

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  6. But in fifty years or so, we’re going to find vast portions of the world are for all intents and purposes depopulated.

    And, just in time to make sure the population crashes, the US starts selling over the counter birth control.

    Let the culture of death rule!!!

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    1. They’re a bit panicky, actually. Both birth control and abortions are crashing. For that matter so is out of wedlock sex. They didn’t expect this, as a result of their campaign of division between men and women, the idiots.

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      1. The attitude by many on the Left toward abortion has been… odd. And I’m not talking about the “Legal until right up until the moment of birth!” stuff. The fact that some are basically pushing a woman’s first abortion as a coming of age event is creepy. And it puts the lie to the Dem claim that they really just want it safe, legal, and rare (which I suspect is the attitude of a majority of the population).

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        1. Of course it’s creepy– it’s a cult initiation.

          If you don’t get them to “freely” bloody their hands, you lose a lot of leverage.

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        2. Think of it as an offering to Baal or Moloch. And to some degree it is like a gang initiation, you do something horrible (e.g. kill someone) and the Gang has that in common to hold over all the members and to desensitize them to future violence.

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      2. As a sister with 4 brothers, mother of 4 previously teenage sons, aunt of many of the same, and grandmother, not to mention the boy crazy girls in the mix, I would have never thought you could bring about the destruction of the sex drive.

        I was wrong at what lengths evil would stoop. It wasn’t teen indiscretion that was the target at all.

        It was the “go forth and multiply”.

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        1. I had a reply to this, but it appears to have vanished into the WP void…

          Japan’s been showing that it’s very much possible to destroy the sex drive, and has been doing so for a while now. A very large minority of Japanese young men appear to be completely disinterested in sex. IIRC, the Japanese women often refer to these kinds of men as “herbivores”.

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            And… look at how they did it.

            By demanding perfection– of both– and constantly piling more expectations on people.

            Guys can’t even be the provider, because a Good Wife must also work at the office, perfectly, while making a house that is perfect and having children that are perfect.

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            1. We were *thisclose* to settling down there… but after a discussion that lasted a year we ended up choosing to return to Michigan. The work-life balance in Japan is atrocious. I was spared that because I was a foreign teacher and thus not subject to the onerous workload my licensed Japanese colleagues had. But my wife said, even as a Japanese, she felt like being there was like being in prison, or in a straitjacket. There are many good points about Japan, I don’t mean to sound like I regret our time there, but don’t regret leaving and I am glad to save our kids from hours of homework and zero vacation/leisure time.

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    2. Female birth control has already been very easy to get for a long time. This makes it more convenient to get. But I’m not sure if it really makes that big of a difference.

      On the other hand, there also seems to be a growing suspicion among the population that maybe all of those hormones in “the pill” aren’t as problem free as everyone would like to think they are.

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      1. Which is why they need to remove the safeguard of women actually talking to a doctor about it– and making sure the woman in question knows she’s taking them at all.

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      2. Honestly, I’m surprised the environmental types of “look what contaminants we have in the water!” haven’t gone after hormonal birth control. Because they really are all over the watersheds.

        As a side note, the highest correlation of location to obesity rates is the distance down a watershed. These numbers include lab rats, which have been gaining weight despite the most closely monitored diets in the world. Yeah, contaminants in the water supply have a very high probability of affecting obesity, and birth control is one drug known to affect weight…

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  7. I’m not sure about that origin for feudalism. I would put it somewhat earlier, in the later Roman Empire, in two steps: (1) The currency was so debased that the soldiers couldn’t buy enough food to live on for their pay, so (2) Military forces were authorized to requisition supplies from the local farmers. At that point you already have the basic feudal contract just waiting to be formalized. At least that’s my guess.

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    1. IIRC, there were also laws passed in Rome to keep the farmers from abandoning their farms to move to the cities. This was basically what turned them into serfs.

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      1. I believe that legally everyone was required to pursue their fathers’ professions, perhaps because otherwise people wouldn’t do work where they were going broke.

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        1. legally everyone was required to pursue their fathers’ professions

          At least the oldest male was to be trained in their father’s professions. Some professions even allowed subsequent surviving younger males to do so too. More often than not they younger surviving males were apprenticed off somewhere else.

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          1. Not just trained. Practice it. That you could do it didn’t mean it got done, otherwise.

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  8. Marxism, elites and the stupidities they try to maintain their place in the saddle:

    It has been revealed today that marriage is racist and bigoted.

    https://thompsonblog.co.uk/2024/03/where-perversity-is-status.html

    How dare we form a stable two-parent family and raise our children to be functional human beings. The cheek!

    To which I responded that my personal philosophy has “matured” over the last 40 years from “everybody is beautiful” to “live and let live” to “yes I am a scary horrible awful racist/bigot, and get off my lawn.” Currently moving toward “you -better- get the f- off my lawn.”

    Note that I have not yet decided to do anything like go over on -their- lawn to screw with -them- they way they feel so free to do with me.

    That, I feel will be the next step in Western civilization. Similar to the movement to end chattel slavery, there will arise a moral movement to end Socialism (tax enslavement) and bring back personal freedom. You can see it bubbling out there.

    Lefties see it too, and that’s why “Lila” Thomas is a brave champion Women’s Rights and not simply a -cheater-, while Riley Gaines is a fascist monster and not a woman who had her hard-earned trophy stolen from her by a -cheater-. That’s why #LetsGoBrandon can’t be bothered to say Laken Riley’s name properly at the State of the Union speech.

    They are reacting with ever-increasing panic to the obvious and menacing dark clouds on the horizon. They can feel their boat picking up speed as it nears the precipice.

    In my infinite and divine wisdom, I have decided it is already over. The day the worm turned was October 7th, 2023. After the Covid clown circus of 2020-2022, the atrocity of October 7th finally broke the Normies. They’re all grinding their teeth and picking a side. Generally -my- side from what I can see. HamAss supporters come on buses, Israel supporters drive their own cars.

    Too late, groomers. The Normies are going to be getting on your lawn from here forward. You know what that looks like? It looks like the CEO of Hertz car rentals being forced to “resign” aka fired after the company to bet heavily on electric cars and lost their shirts. Wait to see what happens to the Disney groomer kingdom, I got a whole big bowl of popcorn waiting for that one.

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    1. No doubt the Japanese, Chinese, Sioux, and too many others to count are absolutely shocked to find out they have been promoting “white supremacy” since long before their societies encountered their first white person.

      The real goal of this nonsense is the old communist goal of destroying families and the family structure in its entirety, as same represents something that results in bonds and loyalties outside of The State.

      They aren’t just trying to wreck Western Civilization. They are trying to wreck civilization, period. Of course it is also all part of the left’s “white people are the devil” ideology which is essentially a genocidal ideology little different from Nazism.

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      1. Well, both “white” and “Nazi” are much more nuanced terms now than in the past, with any Asian counting as “white”, and pretty much everyone, especially Jews, piled into “Nazi”.

        Gotta keep that newspeak dictionary up to date, donchaknow…

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    2. Here the Brahmandarins have chosen a new dystopia for their future and it is Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut with them playing the part of Diana Moon Glampers. They wish to make everyone equally miserable and equally disadvantaged. It is the crab bucket writ large. It is easier to pull people down than build them up and being the lazy inept miscreants that they are they chose the simple path. It used to be that they understood that a stable loving family (or at least stable) was a prerequisite for stable people. But even there they have as our Hostess says, started to drink their own ink and believe that the stability is undesirable and unnecessary. It will cause them to come crashing down, but the issue is what does the collateral damage look like?

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    1. It is interesting how all the songs they used as anthems for their 1960’s ideology can now be used against them. They have become the same thing they fought against. Now lefties are the establishment and the man. 😎

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      1. Come writers and critics who prophesize with your pen

        And keep your eyes wide the chance won’t come again

        And don’t speak too soon for the wheel’s still in spin

        And there’s no telling who that it’s naming

        For the loser now will be later to win

        For the times they are a-changing

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        1. Yep, and the lefties never imagined that the “later to win” would be their worst nightmares. :twisted:

          CCR was closer to the mark; a bad moon does seem to be rising.

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          1. Yes, though if we’re talking about Creedence Clearwater I want to give a nod to their less known song “Who’ll Stop the Rain”:

            Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains . . .

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            1. The Eagles’ “Get Over It” also seems especially appropriate when leftists are in their usual “tolerant” mode… :twisted:

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              1. I kind of admire Bob Dylan’s “My Back Pages,” too.

                Good and bad, I defined these terms,

                Quite clear, no doubt somehow.

                Ah, but I was so much older then;

                I’m younger than that now.

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      2. Well, they did use the Bible as the inspiration for that piece.

        (Ecclesiastes, often used for weddings, but the section cited rarely includes the next part, which is basically saying “there’s a season for everything, but since we’re human, we have NO EFFING CLUE when it is, alas alack.”)

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  9. How can I put this?

    As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place. Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

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  10. I believe you fail to credit Marx with sufficient cynicism.
    He was selling class warfare to the powerful and ambitious from the very start. (At a time when they could feel it all slipping away.)
    That power came from oppressing others, and that there would be no judgement in an afterlife were cornerstones of the belief system he preached.
    His philosophy destroys economies and leaves populations destitute. This is not an unfortunate side effect. It is the whole point. The desperate and destitute are easier to control. There are any number of people who value power over wealth. And this system provides sinecures for parasites such as Karl.

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  11. Feels more like another turn of the screw. :-(

    Unlike wheels, screws can’t be turned forever. They either unscrew and fall out, or reach their limit of travel and break something.

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    1. That must have happened after I stopped reading the books.

      I kept forgetting what happened and starting over every time a new book came out. It’s not that good. Now that the series has ended (I assume it has ended, the author being dead and all), I should probably read them all.

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      1. Jordan knew that he wasn’t going to be able to finish the series so made notes on how it would continue & end.

        Brandon Sanderson took those notes and finished the series.

        Personally, I’m glad that I read the final books but I haven’t felt the need to reread them.

        Jordan’s series is very much IMO a “Your Milage May Vary” one.

        Note, Jordan’s wife made it clear that there would not be “spin-off” stories set in that universe.

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        1. Aside from the one prequel that Jordan wrote, of course.

          She (or one of her heirs) did license out a TV series. It hasn’t gone well, from what I’ve heard.

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          1. I watched the first season of the show, and while it had a few cool moments, it completely failed to capture any of the magic that the books had. Then again, after about book 6, the *books* also failed to capture the magic (ymmv). I’m not aware of anyone who really wanted to see more of the TV show, unfortunately; I wish it had been done better.

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            1. Wheel of Time? Dunno about that, but I’d pay 100 quatloos to see another season of Firefly. Maybe 200. ;-)

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              1. I wanted to see the full 5 seasons of Crusade, not the half season that made it past the suits.

                If the legendary J. Michael Straczynski sits down and proposes a sequel series to Babylon 5, a series that will be glorious if it’s even half as good as what he’s already created, the correct response is to give him a shit-ton of money, leave him the F-K ALONE and hope he’s still got it.

                Not try to micromanage, meddle and interfere. He proved he knows how to create an incredible TV show; you don’t.

                That sort of interference by clueless management is how we get exploding Space Shuttles and burning nuclear reactors.

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                1. Amen Brother preach it. Crusade had potential to match B5 but it didn’t catch on immediately (Nor did B5 if I remember right) and so being rather expensive to produce it was toast.

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                  1. In ‘Becoming Superman’ Straczynski says the new suits at WB hated Crusade and did everything they could to kill it. Such as moving the show from one lousy time slot to another even worse one, and then pre-empting it frequently.

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                    1. Like that’s never happened before. In the third season of Star Trek (NCC-1701 no A, B, C, or D thank you) it was moved to the “Death slot” at 10pm on Friday night. I remember because 3rd Grade me had to get a special dispensation to stay up to watch it. And B5 in its early PTEN phase had a heck of a time here in Boston Metro as the Channel it was on was the same one that had Bruins and Celtics games. I don’t know how may times I missed all or part of a B5 because one of the sports ball games had gone into overtime…

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            2. I read the first 11 or 12 books of the series and a few years ago tried to re-start them from the first but I just could not get into it the way I could in high school. I remember REALLY liking it back then, but I couldn’t finish it so I found a couple of articles summarizing the ending and I was satisfied with that. I wish the Seanchan had all DIED though.

              I didn’t care for the TV series. I guess I’m just not part of the “MODERN AUDIENCE” to whom they were catering with their awful casting.

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            3. As a non-Jordan-reader who had some familiarity with the setting via osmosis, and watched the tv show just looking for mindless entertainment, I would rate season one as the equivalent of 0.7 Krulls and season two as about 1.2 Krulls – a decent improvement as mindless entertainment, but still not anything spectacular. (The extended Editions of the various Hobbit movies average out somewhere in the 1.3 Krulls range, and Rings of Power season 1 is probably in the 0.5 Krulls range.)

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  12. Reading the Sanderson wrapup made me wish he’d written the whole series.

    There would have been a whole lot less braid tugging and shift twisting and a whole lot more advancing the actual plot.

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    1. Did anybody actually like the three girls?

      Or the long descriptions of what they were wearing every time they showed up?

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    2. If you want Sanderson in High Fantasy go find the Way of Kings and its sequels. They do tend to a horde of pages, but in general I do not begrudge Sanderson the page count as the detail is astounding.

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  13. One of the chief regime puppet masters and a chief architect of the Russia Collusion Hoax and the slander of the NY Post’s coverage of the Hunter Biden laptop, in a response he admitted had nothing to do with the question he was asked, made on of the oldest antisemitic blood libel slanders in the book:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/03/18/jake-sullivan-makes-antisemitic-claim-israel-interferes-in-american-politics/

    The cabal running the administration truly hates Jews.

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  14. There’s something besides Marx in this particular cycle, that’s a bit more spiritual evil.

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    1. To me the ultimate evil is totally controlling another’s life. Therefore Marxism with its cradle to grave planning and control of life is inherently evil.

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      1. Socialism is, by definition, central control of the means of production. The ultimate means of production is the people, individually and collectively.

        Thus, Socialism is, by its very nature totalitarian. In the end it must be.

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  15. I really like your point of Marxism being a revolt of the elite against the true revolution. It fits in very well with my own insights from reading the communist manifesto.

    In particular, what I really focused on when I read it in college (it was part of a survey course) was just how badly Marx’s framework of oppressed vs. oppressor fit with what I observed with my own family.

    Specifically, my family is something that Marx could not conceive, intelligence workers. My father did very well financially, but in a very working class manner–he has his name on many patents, but was quite happy to trade the theoretical upside gains for a steady, good paycheck.

    This is the kind of thing that free enterprise gives us, which the Marxists with their ridged boxes wish to destroy. Every advance of technology when spread by free market forces vastly increases the ability of regular people to have wealth vastly out matching prior generations. 

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    1. I thought that was implicit in his raging against the fall of the “strong man” (to me that meant aristocracy) and his expressed hatred of the middle class.

      I think I need to read it again.

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      1. No, a neologism. Mind workers is the standard name for what I was thinking of, I just was in rant mode and did not think of it.

        Though, the more I reflect, the more I realize even just adding categories does not capture the full problem. Take my current job for example: I work in a factory, and there are some clear traditional labor jobs, the assemblers, and some clear mind workers, the engineers and managers (which are another blind spot of Marx) but I am in a position where I do some routine work, but also some very non routine work that requires creative problem solving (troubleshooting!). Am I a mind worker or not? Does the fact that anyone under 40 in the department has a degree mean anything?

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        1. Oh. Younger son does that with words.
          I know exactly what you mean, though, that was btw when I first noticed the holes in Marx, which they forced into us in six courses by high school.
          His classes have no meaning in the modern world.
          My best friend in school insisted my family were upper-oppressor class. Not by birth, but because we read/thought a lot. And had artists among us.
          Her dad was a factory manager. He could buy us and sell us three times, but he was supposed to be “proletariat” because we…. read for fun? It was all silliness.

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        2. Peter Drucker wrote about knowledge workers and how they would tend to replace manual workers as things became more complicated. One of many things he was right about. Too bad about Management by Objectives, which I hate, hate, hate. That was his too.

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          1. The Reader thinks Drucker was wrong there. All workers are knowledge workers and the distinction he made would be laughed at by any carpenter, electrician. plumber or modern factory worker. That all workers are knowledge workers is the second tenet of the Reader’s version of economics. The first is that the only resource on the planet is the human mind.

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          2. I can see ways to make that work, but it mostly sounds like someone that was interacting with fairly large assembly line companies (which is reasonable for a guy doing management) and expanding it to all of society. (Not so reasonable.)

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        1. burned to ashes. Can’t be too careful…

          Mixed with salt and buried at cross road with an iron rod stuck through the ashes into the air indicating “evil buried here”.

          Or buried in the midden so can be at least useful after death.

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  16. I am not nearly so sanguine about the Left losing, at least not doing so in a way which does not inflict catastrophic damage on their way out to the door (or onto the gallows). We’re talking damage that forever changes this country, likely breaking it into pieces.

    The Civil War was a brutal, vicious war, but the two sides managed to maintain some sense of, what…propriety? Respect? for the other. That allowed a reconciliation in the long run after the fact.

    I don’t see that happening when this war of visions for the future comes to a head. The visions are too disparate, and the opposition too vicious and tyrannical.

    Sorry to be Debbie downer, but all the signs are the Left are playing for keeps. Bolshevik/Red Guard level keeps. If you just take this coordinated invasion of the country they are engaged in, it seems obvious there is *nothing* they will not stoop to if it reimposes the Matrix like rule they wish to get back to, i.e., we go back to having ‘elections’ where everyone pretends the votes matter, but the elite get to do whatever the hell they want in the end.

    But my real reason for being so cynical is how many people are, well…stupid. So many have bought into the propaganda which, in their defense, was crammed down their throats all their lives. Speaking to friends who used to live behind the Iron Curtain, the Marxist way has an appeal because everything you need to exist, job, housing, retirement is provided for you ‘by the state’. The fact that you have to sell your soul and give up your freedom is not a deal breaker for many for whom striving, and occasionally losing, is a crime against humanity. They will welcome the new order with open arms.

    When the corruption that is endemic leads to a collapse, the organ grinder media will get to work blaming ‘capitalism’ and join the drum beat to install something ‘better’. We all know what the ‘better’ will be.

    The invading armies will be handed guns, promised citizenship in the New America, and given their orders, and it will be GAME ON.

    The country does not survive intact after that…

    I don’t say any of this to be so cynical as to say to give up, or we can’t win, but merely to point out how I don’t see us getting out of this without bloodshed. The Left is not bowing out or backing down. Be prepared, mentally over all.

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    1. You’re not a Debbie Downer. You’re a doomer, too scared to think straight.
      That’s fine. Move aside, the future needs to be built.
      Yeah, yeah, yeah. They’ll damage us badly, but most of the damage was in the head and in the 20th century. If that’s your idea of good governance? Yeah that’s dying and thank heavens. That centralized bureaucratized mess is where the poison came into our country. It never worked very well, and it can’t. Socialism kills fast or slow.
      This turmoil is us spitting out the poisoned pill at last.
      BREAK APART! Civil War (conventional one, with ranged armies)! A battle of VISIONS!
      Is there any more USSR propaganda you’d like to regurgitate? You’ll feel better afterwards. That’s some very old poison.
      There is no battle of visions. The left’s deceptive vision died with the USSR. Now they’re making it up as they go along, in an extreme panic. There won’t be ranged armies. They can cause wild damage, but a kid with guns stopped them. Bah.
      Our country won’t be the same on the other side! No, it won’t.. I’m hoping it will be much closer to the founder’s visions.
      As for breaking apart… we’re to the USSR. There aren’t any other national identities, and we cross borders with abandon, because state borders are not national borders. There is no ethnic or deep cultural difference.
      STOP TRYING TO APPLY DEAD COUNTRIES’ IDEAS TO OUR COUNTRY. We’re very much alive.
      We’ll survive this, because we work. They don’t.
      If you want to gibber and cry, kindly stand aside. The rest of us have work to do, to minimize how bad the down point will be.
      Thank you. Pardon our dust. Ignore the enemy’s victories. Of course they will get some. They’re not just “visions.”
      We are working and fighting. Cry quietly. Thanks.

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      1. Ignore the enemy’s victories. Of course they will get some. They’re not just “visions.”

        More to the point: count on both sides of the equation. If you won’t count our victories, you are not allowed to count the enemy’s victories. If you won’t count the enemy’s defeats, you aren’t allowed to count our defeats.

        Much of the doomer / depression-as-political-ideology memeplex is based on dismissing every allied victory and every enemy defeat. Either by outright denying that they exist, or by saying it doesn’t matter because some other thing will override it.

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      2. Re civil war, as with so much else, projection says more about the projector than the screen. Watch for Vlad the Shirtless or more likely his successor to object kinetically when his idiocy combined with what he’s stated should have been done to prevent the USSR from disintegrating hit Siberia and the rest of the captive polities in the Russian Federation deciding to exit stage right.

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      3. “We are working and fighting. Cry quietly. Thanks.”

        Gee, thanks Sarah.

        Could you be more dismissive?

        Not crying.

        Just trying to point out the body count of the first American Civil War, multiplied with a much larger population, much deadlier weapons, and an opposition which lacks any sense of the honor or innate kinship with their opponents that even Confederate slave owners managed to exhibit 150 years ago.

        Also trying to point out the carnage of the LAST century when competing visions (YES VISIONS) of what societies should be structured by led to hundreds of millions dead.

        The Nazi and Marxist visions of what societies should be were also ludicrous on their face, and yet…mountains of corpses resulted as people bought into them wholesale and were willing to murder others EN MASSE, mostly because it have them license to turn the beast within themselves loose.

        But…but…how did THAT happen with all those stupid ideas?!? Over just stupid, vapid visions?!?

        Yes, Sarah. Over stupid ideas did hundreds of millions die. I thought you were well aware of this. You claimed to be.

        Did it REALLY sink in, though?

        Not saying we can or should avoid what is coming. Just trying to be realistic about what defeating Fascism 2.0 is going to entail. Sorry, but methinks you are somewhat flippant about what is to come. I for one hope you ARE right, for all our sakes, but the trend lines and recent history lead me to believe you are not.

        And…You are fighting?

        No, my sister, you are NOT. Let’s not pretend. Your blog, which I have enjoyed, is mere words.

        You have no concept of what ‘fighting’ means. Very few of us does. For you to use it so casually like it means something right now says it all.

        You. Are. Not. Prepared.

        You. Are. Not. Fighting.

        I am just trying to point out where you have gone astray, thinking this is the worst of it, or maybe just a little more, and no more.

        But, mea culpa if I somehow harshed your mellow about how easy it will be overcome an enemy willing to literally inject us with toxic substances by coercion, send actual stormtroopers into American streets to occupy and kill, destroy the worldwide food supply, and import Goths and Vandals by the millions in order to see their power preserved.

        Those millions of invaders now running around the nation will have to be dealt with, Sarah. You just gonna wave your hands and by magic dismiss them back to their native lands?

        They were BROUGHT here for a purpose, and they ain’t leaving with a few harsh words from your keyboard.

        You going to write a few more blog entries and the rabid Marxists running things are just going to roll over and play dead, never to trouble you again?

        “We win. They lose.”

        Sure.

        Question is…how many bodies will be put on the victory pyre before we can all do your little Ewok dance of celebration?

        Assuming we are actually alive for that part of it, of course. Problem with a battle of ideologies is a whole lot people tend to end up dead before the matter is settled. That is all I was trying to say, which SHOULD be pretty self-evident if you were as well-versed in history as you claim.

        Not saying it is not worth it in the end, rather than being a slave, but being childish in your estimation of what it will entail is both naive and self-defeating.

        Don’t try to sell people on the war without being HONEST about what it will cost. Doesn’t seem like a honorable way to go about it.

        It is frankly disturbing to see you are so flippant and nonchalant of what lies ahead.

        But, I am sure it will be the relative cakewalk you imagine, like Katniss and her little bow defeating the Capital City (Capitol City? I really don’t give a frak…) and your mocking of my concerns will be well justified.

        Like I said, I hope to be laughing right beside you in 15 years, thinking, “Boy, Sarah was right! It *wasn’t* the Walking Dead meets Red Famine! Cheers! It is morning in America, AGAIN!”

        Either way, I win whether you are right or wrong.

        Night, Sarah.

        I won’t trouble you with my troubling, “doomer” thoughts again.

        Enjoy your little echo chamber.

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        1. Could you be more dismissive?

          Yes, quite easily– and for that matter, she could be actually unpleasant back at you, rather than treating your nonsense as you taking council of your fears and being scared into spewing propaganda from folks who want us dead.

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          1. And I’m about to. because frankly this one smells of paid troll. And a not very smart one, who thinks that the thing about the illegals being possibly recruited into an army is new to us.
            DUDE, Snelson is more realistic in his fears even when he’s depressed. And he has sold it MUCH better than you. Probably because he is actually brilliant, even when afraid.
            You’re either a pissant little boy, or you’re paid. either way, scram.

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            1. “I know, I’ll go on to a website that can wax poetic on the tactical distinction between thugs, fighters, warriors, and soldiers, and tell them to freak out because someone on the thugs-to-fighter scale can get weapons!”

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          2. Oh, and also, I’m not as dismissive as a nasty little troll who just spewed things to make us stampede (LOL, ROFL) with no real connection to my post, which talks of a really slow victory and many temporary losses on the way, and instead decided I was just saying everything was roses. Now that’s dismissive.
            Or, copy pasta, posting in a dozen sites at once, trying to snuff out hope. Bah.

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        2. The Nazi and Marxist visions of what societies should be were also ludicrous on their face, and yet…mountains of corpses resulted as people bought into them wholesale and were willing to murder others EN MASSE, mostly because it have them license to turn the beast within themselves loose.

          I am not the biggest student of history, but I do study humans. If you actually believe this, it says a lot about you, but not about the targets.

          You really need to move on to the next step.

          He has found something to make him laugh, and he will not suffer it to make him think.

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    2. The Civil War was a brutal, vicious war, but the two sides managed to maintain some sense of, what…propriety? Respect? for the other. That allowed a reconciliation in the long run after the fact.

      You’d probably feel better if you’d stop looking at history as if it was Of Course always going to happen, and look more into what went on before the resolution.

      For starters, while it’s not exactly approved history material at the moment, how ugly that reconciliation got would be a start.

      There is a reason that folks make jokes about Democrats still being upset when Republicans won’t let them own people.

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    3. Starting from the bottom of your comment and working towards the top:

      1. “The invading armies will be given guns” By whom? From where? And as others have pointed out, where will they get training in marksmanship and squad tactics, much less larger scale? At most you will get Africa or Central America style mob intimidation tactics, along with flicking the guns to make the bullets go faster. Two men with rifles and fire discipline can destroy that kind of mob. The invaders are not organized like that, and they would not understand it even if someone tried.
      2. “When the corruption endemic yadda yadda.” Welcome to the freaking 1930s. This is not new, news, or anything novel. That drum is worn out.
      3. “But my real reason for being so cynical is how many people are, well…stupid” And? Welcome to the 1930s again, and FDR’s New Deal. We aintent ded yet, to quote Granny Weatherwax.
      4. “Sorry to be Debbie downer, but all the signs are the Left are playing for keeps.”
        No, you’re not sorry, and the Left has been playing for keeps ever since Hitler’s death camps and Stalin’s gulags. Which yes, they would dearly love to replicate here. Little problem of the American People being better armed than even the American Military. We can be killed, yes, but never conquered or subjugated by force of arms. There’s too many guns already in private hands, and the Left has hated that since before the NFA of 1934, where they attempted and failed to start disarming America. The left plays for keeps. Okay. They’re also incompetent and outgunned, have been since the start, and they’ve only gotten more so.
      5. “The visions are too disparate, and the opposition too vicious and tyrannical.”
        Um. Welcome to the New Deal. Again. 
      6. “The Civil War was a brutal, vicious war… … respect/civility yadda.”
        Tell me you are not a student of history without telling me you are not a student of history. You have not a clue about that which you speak. The bitterness of the CW and Reconstruction lasted well into the middle of last century.
        And finally
      7. “I am not nearly so sanguine about the Left losing, at least not doing so in a way which does not inflict catastrophic damage on their way out to the door (or onto the gallows). “
        So it has been, so it will ever be. Democrats have torn this country apart before, in that Civil War which you seem to believe was a gentleman’s duel. They have not stopped trying since.

      I really don’t feel upset or guilty about piling on here, but you’ve got a whole Doomer mindest where you’re painting the past in far rosier tints than it deserves and looking forward to any possible future not through pink lenses but a welding mask with sewage on it. Yeah, everything looks like crap like that.
      We are not dead. We are not defeated. And we will never be, unless we give up.
      But the enemy also gets a say, and they always have.
      Go peddle your black pills elsewhere.

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      1. I’ll sum things up with this:
        Anyone who actually believed this “impending and unstoppable collapse of society/culture/nation/whatever” would not be preaching in the public square, but very quietly preparing backups, safe places, and an offline network of support, while trying very very hard to not make themselves a target for anyone or anything else. They would be digging a hole, jumping, and pulling it closed after themselves, praying no one notices them.
        Folks who want attention, though, love Armageddon and TEOTWAWKI type scenarios, because they can preach doom and despair, and get all kinds of folks to look at them as Serious Wise Individuals.
        And that’s before weighing any other considerations or possible motivations.
        If you truly believed this stuff, you will not be proclaiming in the public square. You’ll be turning hermit and keeping your head down.

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        1. “We are not dead. We are not defeated. And we will never be, unless we give up.”

          One can lose many battles and not be defeated. Defeated is a mindset. History is replete with individuals, movements, and peoples that “lost” battles and yet continued on, sometimes outlasting their original opponents.

          I am often given to despair, but despair in and of itself solves nothing. The reality is, out there on the ramparts and marches and frontier (and these things can be virtual as much as physical), things are being built and things are happening. If we do not hear about them nearly so much, perhaps it is because it does not fit the current modern narrative or those people simply do not want to call attention to themselves.

          If people are defining “victory” as “The ways things used to be”, then there will never be a victory. That is gone. If people define victory as principles and practices, perhaps like the way things used to be but applied in new ways, there is no limit to how often victories can be celebrated.

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      2. Let me give just ONE example of the bubble mindset here before I leave…

        “The invading armies will be given guns” By whom? From where?”

        A) https://thepoliticalinsider.com/democrat-senator-dick-durbin-proposes-letting-illegal-aliens-serve-in-the-military/

        “Democrat Senator Dick Durbin Proposes Letting Illegal Aliens Serve in the Military”

        B) https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/03/illegal-immigrant-allowed-to-carry-guns-judge-rules/

        “Illegal immigrant allowed to carry guns, judge rules”

        Nah…you’re right. Nothing to worry about here. I mean, just because the United States government is literally importing far more military age males into the country than Russia invaded Ukraine with, and there are already proposals in motion to put them into the United States military, there is NO reason to be concerned.

        I was just being silly. As you were everyone. It’ll be fine…

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        1. Dude. There literally is nothing to worry about.
          The bubble is in your head.
          Yeah, they COULD recruit the illegals into the army. Of course, this would automagically make a bunch of warring tribesmen into a cohesive and formidable unit.
          Oh, look, we identified the bubble in your head. It’s the same the Dems live in. They think the world is America.
          Seriously. If you think various different tribal affiliations of South Americans will be longing to kill whitey rather than each other, or that any of them will TOLERATE Africans, let alone work with them, or that the Chinese will tolerate working with anyone else, instead of ordering them around, the bubble you’re seeing is yours.
          Go ahead and run, little devolved one. Or we might yet puncture it.

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          1. So, THIS is the reason why we lose, btw. Going after each other with rhetorical machetes, hair afire, while the Leftists fall in line and march forward, with an occasional purge for show now and then.

            But, hell…I’m game, Sarah…

            I pissed you off… You pissed me off…

            (Clink! Clink!)

            En garde!

            “Dude. There literally is nothing to worry about.”

            First line. FIRST.

            LITERALLY nothing to worry about. You are a wordsmith, Sarah, so you know what ‘literally’ means.

            “If you think various different tribal affiliations of South Americans will be longing to kill whitey rather than each other, or that any of them will TOLERATE Africans, let alone work with them, or that the Chinese will tolerate working with anyone else, instead of ordering them around, the bubble you’re seeing is yours.”

            Oh, so…we will simply be having all sorts of little Rwandas and Bosnias popping up around the nation as the various POC groups go at each other to establish dominance and settle old scores in American cities and towns.

            Sounds exciting! Like Game of Thrones!

            Perhaps it will be on Pay-per-view.

            And, these warring factions WON’T be targeting ‘whitey’ so I guess we can all rest easy. Unless of course one is not a white. Or, you know, live in or anywhere near where these little tribal passion plays will be playing out.

            Or the POC run out of tribal enemies and scores to settle…

            Oh, they’ll just open up 7-11’s and Dunkin’s when the blood lettins’ done against the other dusky folk!

            And I am sure various Leftists groups like Antifa and the Deep State WON’T be taking advantage of any of these little flare-ups as they occur, working their own agendas.

            I mean, we shouldn’t expect the Feds to use the excuse of large foreign groups trying to kill each other (YOUR words) in ethnocide conflicts in American streets to seize more power, right?

            I mean…the Deep State would NEVER use a manufactured emergency they helped create to-

            Oh…hmmm…wait a sec…

            My, my this seems to be getting a bit more complicated then you let on.

            Oh, then you declare the Chinese will NOT “tolerate working with anyone else”…

            But THEN you offer they *might* be ordering these other murderous factions around, which KINDA seems like working with them, albeit as the boss calling the shots, but what do *I* know?

            I am just a “Paid Troll” reading what you are writing, telling me it is all in my head, all these worries, and I have LITERALLY nothing worry about even as you describe foreign nations’ racial, tribal and historical grudge matches being played out on American streets.

            Now, all of this is just based on what YOUR are telling me, what you are admitting are likely scenarios.

            We have not even gotten into the fens where we discuss the absolute CERTAINTY that terrorists have made it into the country in the hundreds or perhaps even thousands.

            Nor have we even breached the subject that at least some of the Chinese ‘ordering others around’ are most definitely CCP spies and military personnel.

            What fun and games might THEY be up to do you think?

            “BUT…not FAIR, Devolution, ya’ big crybaby! We were talking about illegal immigrants going into the U.S. Military!”

            Oh, OKAY!

            “Yeah, they COULD recruit the illegals into the army. Of course, this would automagically make a bunch of warring tribesmen into a cohesive and formidable unit.”

            No, it would not “automagically”turn them into cohesive and formidable unit. That is mucho silly.

            That is what army TRAINING is for, Sarah. And indoctrination.

            They break guys down, discipline them, and them turn into people who KNOW how to fight and are trained to follow orders.

            And THESE people will have no loyalty or fealty to either the Constitution OR Americans because they were not brought up here. They will be given the new WOKE ethos as their guiding star. And promised full citizenship if they follow orders and go Spartan on the ‘domestic terrorists’.

            Now, this either breaks down one of two ways.

            Either you are wrong and these disparate groups are trained and forged into a fighting force loyal only to the regime who has been quite active in purging all those who question questionable orders, and are given automatic and heavy weapons to do the job…

            OR…

            You are right, and they remain an undisciplined, violent and prone to tribal warfare rabble who are given automatic and heavy weapons and are likely to use them on anyone they feel like when given the chance.

            OR…

            Please let me know how either one of these scenarios leaves me with LITERALLY nothing to worry about.

            I look forward to the soothing bubble of peace and serenity you are going to lay on me which will make all the badness and concern go away.

            Or are you just gonna to default to calling me names once more?

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            1. You could actually READ the post we came in on.
              I’m not going after each other. I’m going after a TROLL on my blog.
              K’thanx. You said you were leaving?

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              1. A Troll?

                Sarah, I think you’re giving TheDevolution too much credit.

                True Trolls are more evolved than him.

                Homo habilis may have been more evolved than him. [Very Big Crazy Grin]

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              2. “You could actually READ the post we came in on.”

                I did, actually. I could try to discuss how what I wrote relates, but it appears we jumped over that and went right to the flinging poo at each other stage. Thanks primarily to you, btw…

                And you could try taking your own advice…

                “He wants us to win by giving up like he demands, because all is lost!
                Or soemthing.”

                Nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE can you find evidence of me saying ‘give up’ anywhere in this exchange. I also do not claim ‘All is lost’ nor can anything I say be construed to mean either of those things.

                Your brain filled in THOSE little details as some sort of NPC driven software code response.

                Which is REALLY disappointing because that is supposed to be the other side with the NPC’s.

                Also disappointing since I have been reading you for years and now have to wonder if THAT was all time wasted considering your exhibited lack of seriousness here. You are better than that, by a whole lot. Or at least I thought you were.

                REALLY disappointing is your inability to actually address my points above. You have no apparent ability to stand up to what you JUST WROTE, which does not make coherent sense AT ALL. If you cannot even stand by what YOU write, then what are you? Seriously.

                Instead, more insults and a desire to just see me go away which is where we started. To leave your bubble (again YOUR word) intact and undisturbed so you may hold court with your faithful minions.

                Hey, I respect property rights, so your castle, your court, so while you can rightfully claim the Queen Crown, the “I am right because it is my house” scepter doesn’t come with the deal.

                And yes, I DID say I was leaving (you did not make up THAT part right at least…), but you were such a petulant child, such a disappointment, so eager to go “rrrrrrRRRRAAAAAAAHAHHHHHHHHH!” on someone with a different take, I thought I would stay just a little longer to embarrass you. Your arrogance called me forth, as it were.

                And, well…because you pissed me off.

                You think Portuguese temper is bad? Try Scots-Irish my dear, with a little Portuguese thrown in.

                I don’t care if you end up posting this. This can be just between YOU and ME.

                FOR THE RECORD…

                To show how astute a detective you are…

                Been reading Instapundit since before you were a twinkle in Glenn Reynolds eye, my dear.

                I was reading it soon after the towers fell. I can even find a couple of times he quoted me, at least once by name, years ago, but I frankly would not trust you with my real name at this moment.

                I ain’t a “Paid Troll” and I not some 5th columnist Doomsaying infiltrator.

                Wrong on BOTH counts, Mrs. Holmes.

                You know NOTHING about me, except what I wrote here, and you then proceeded to make up things that I did not say to pretend that you had a clue. That is ALL here in black and white pixels.

                If fact…well, trying to be somewhat civil, so let’s say I find your feeble insinuations…vexing.

                I have voted Republican down the line since I could vote, and have been disappointed and horrified to realize what a corrupt bunch of clowns they are alongside their Marxist partners in crime in the Democratic Party.

                Your accusation I am some sort of Leftist keyboard commando, spam pasting my propaganda is nonsense. A weak attempt to dismiss what I am saying rather than address it.

                “We don’t have to debate him! He’s a RAHHHHHCIST!”

                Another Leftist tactic I cannot quite believe you are employing.

                GO copy and paste some of what I wrote here, Sarah, and Google it. Find where me or ANYONE who has been posting MY words elsewhere.

                All of you faithful minions, if are reading this, go ahead! Help her out.

                Go find my ‘copy pasta’ on the interwebs, where I am post bombing the White Nationalist Alt-Right Neo-Fascist MAGA scum because I am in fact James Carville working feverishly to undermine the American Resistance.

                If Sarah is right, it should be pretty easy to find, right?

                RIGHT!?!

                Guess what? You won’t? I doubt you will even try.

                Know why?

                Because it is rubbish.

                THAT’S why.

                It is a delusion.

                And for the last time, I am not yelling “Retreat! All is lost! Run away!” (Again, go find that in what I wrote. I dare you.)

                ALL I was saying is that underestimating the enemy is a mistake.

                Simple as that.

                I did not say OR imply we should roll over. I did not say we cannot possibly win. I am fully aware, in fact, that LOSING IS NOT AN OPTION when it comes to these bastards.

                I simply was saying that underestimating the opposition was NOT a good play. Not a smart play *if*, you know, you were desirous of winning.

                I am not sure how “Hey guys, Please Be Ready for what these bastards are truly capable off” is somehow defeatist in your eyes, but apparently I stumbled across some sort of emotional tripwire.

                (sigh)

                Okay. THAT was cathartic!

                Here’s what I’m gonna do.

                I am going to print out Sarah’s “Dude. You literally have nothing to worry about…” reply, and gonna tape it above my desk to remind me. As we move forward in the coming months and years, and events unfold, I will drop by to see how that prognostication has held up.

                To your relief, I will not otherwise bother. I have peeked into the kitchen and definitely not interested in eating here going forward.

                Sound good?

                Please feel free to resume your mutual assurance society activities.

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                1. I could try to discuss how what I wrote relates, but it appears we jumped over that and went right to the flinging poo at each other stage

                  Actually, that pretty much covers it.

                  You went straight to flinging poo, and got upset the delivery wasn’t accepted.

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                1. Likely one of the types who want a Strong Leader to take over, thinking they’ll get a Reinhard von Lohengramm… and end up with a Rudolf von Goldenbaum instead. *eyeroll*

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            2. Going after each other with rhetorical machetes, hair afire, while the Leftists fall in line and march forward, with an occasional purge for show now and then.

              Oh, yeah, they’re winning so much that YEARS AGO Elon Musk went viral with his little tweet about how he use to be basically on the left, and now they’ve sprinted so far to the left that they think he’s far right.

              Bet we can guess who you’ve appointed as our little marching leader, though– isn’t it odd how folks go “We all need to work together, not fight– so all of you quit fighting and follow me!”

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        2. “Illegal immigrant allowed to carry guns, judge rules”

          This is no surprise to anyone familiar with 2A. The government has ZERO authority to restrict weapons of any sort.

          And you are conveniently ignoring what happens when the enemy gets even the faintest echo of resistance. Hell, the “flood of illegals” are leaving as fast as they come because they aren’t finding things as they were promised, to the point where the enemy has been playing tricks to trap them in the US.

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        3. “You guys have had rational screaming matches over the thing that I want you to freak out about, mindlessly! This is a bubble! Anything that isn’t doing what I want is a bubble!”

          Seriously, you’re expecting criminals to follow gun laws, and Little Dicky Derbin to be treated as a serious thinker. Maybe you should get out of the progressive bubble?

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        4. Ignoring, for the moment, both the idea of believing numbers out of Russia and the vast difference between “military age men” and “Russian military”* — the country targeted would fit between Salt Lake City and Kansas City with room to rattle around.

          * Yes, I just actually kind of defended the professionalism of Russia’s military. It’s vs a random grab-bag of people who don’t even speak the same language, OK?!

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          1. It’s vs a random grab-bag of people who don’t even speak the same language, OK?!

            Another factor to keep in mind is that Americans have ZERO CLUE of just how weapons-incompetent the rest of the world is.

            Weapons are such a large part of our culture that even someone in the deepest blue hellhole still has a vague idea about how to hold one and that you do something which involves looking down the sights. And that accurate aim is something which exists and can be learned.

            *THIS IS NOT NORMAL IN THE REST OF THE WORLD*

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                1. Chuckle Chuckle

                  I just “loved” the television news stories where some woman is claiming that American or Israeli soldiers shot into her “home” and has her holding rifle bullets… Unfired Rifle Bullets.

                  Obviously the “reporters” don’t know what fired rifle bullets look like. :lol:

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                  1. You mean she’s got a handful of unfired rounds? Bullets are just the end parts.

                    Probably 7.62x39R, too, rather than the 5.56×45 or 7.62×51 used by the Israeli Army.

                    Sounds like another shill for Ham-Ass to me.

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                    1. Yes, unfired rounds is the proper term.

                      And while this garbage has been played against Israel, it has also been played against the US.

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    4. left identifies as playing for keeps.

      That does not mean a single thing. Because the ideas that define the left are broken predictors or estimators of human behavior.

      Otherwise we could pull the Napoleans from the insane asylums, and have dozens of men with the leadership abilities to conquer much of Europe.

      So, sure, they are ‘harming’ symbols that they would previously pretentd to respect.

      However, they were always bad people, and always were lacking in having enough whatever to pull things off. The problem was in their thinking, and in how they defined the ‘problem’.

      Thanks to the hothouse of academic fraud, adn the hothouse of political fraud, they were convinced that they would finally be successful, that they would not this time lose the big gamble.

      But, the reason they have lost every single gamble of that sort, whether in their own current accounting, or the accounting of others, is because their thinking is broken, and they are assholes.

      Furthermore, American society has quietly rejected every theory obsessive nutjob’s call for internal warfare for the past eighty years.

      The domestic criminals have not been enough to ensure Democrat autocracy everywhere, only in very narrow places. Attempts to expand seem to have been quietly community policed, and disappeared.

      So, they are bringing in more foreign criminals. American society seems to ‘treat criminals as damaging’ and ‘route around them’. That the academic world has no term for a phenomena does not mean that the phenomena does not exist.

      That the US did not fall into eternal totalitiarianism in 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 or 2000 means something. What does it mean exactly? Unclear.

      But, whatever it means, probably is still the same for now. So, yes, concerning, but it has been concerning a very long time.

      If the current plays somehow win it for them, then some elementary schoolers will win the World Cup.

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  17. Echo chamber and/or bubble claims have appeal to an unstated theory or two in them.

    Of course, you can very much have a group that synchronizes words, or synchronizes thoughts, and is superconsistent, which only takes feedback from that, and which eggs itself along to extremes.

    It is not the necessarily so that every group which is insular in its thinking harms itself by being insular.

    You can have the case of an insular group that deludes itself about its tactical, or strategic options, and thereby inflicts on itself harm.

    However, it does not follow that a group is harming itself by refusing to listen to some random person to come along. (If that random person does not know the history of that group’s interactions, they will not know if their talking points are exactly similar to many other visitors, and understood to be in a category of idiocy. )

    Studying outsiders, collecting intelligence, can provide useful additional information for making tactical or strategic decisions.

    a) setting your grand strategy on the basis of what other people think about you is folly

    b) How active is the information warfare environment? In electronics warfare, I understand there is a concept of ‘autistic mode’. IE, your processes or equipment is outmatched, and so the answer is to /stop/ changing your behavior based on inputs. Info war will be especially bad in vicinity of failing communist regimes, so in such cases autistic mode and insular groups may be a pretty effective strategy.

    c) Responding to other samples and changing your priors for negotiation is crazy when the samples are not from the same population. Which could be the case for American politics, and foreign provocateurs. But, you don’t need to consider the Russians or the PRC (who perhaps ought to be erased from the planet) to value this strategy. The academic crazies, and the communists are not really the same culture or nation as Americans. Compromising with them in attempt to preserve peace is unwise, as they are not really capable of delivering.

    In my view, the universities are more of a problem than illegals.

    The illegals do not have kinship networks here.

    There are quite a lot of people attending university, some of them go bad crazy, and many of them do have kinship networks here. So you get people trying to obtain weregild on their behalf when they are shot as evilworkers for causing harm to others.

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    1. The colleges are deliberately trying to drive the students batshit crazy. We’re fortunate that they at least fail with some of them.

      ———————————

      They’re the Experts! They only sound stupid to you because you’re not as Educated as they are.

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