I looked up a recipe a couple of years ago and got on the mailing list, apparently. Usually, it’s harmless, or even useful….. I think someone was scraping the bottom of the fridge for that one, though.
“This is Hanukkah” is spot on.
The “idiot crusher” is sick but accurate. I did some reading on that thing and its creators, it was pretty amazing. One video showed the head guy dismissing the people with actual expertise in the field as “old white guys”. So it’s not just “go woke, go broke” but “go woke, go die”.
When I posted the meme, someone commented, “I wonder what it feels like, knowing you paid to die.”
I replied with “Absolutely nothing. Their brains ceased to exist before a pain signal, or danger stimulus, could reach them.”
Two daughters, Spaghetti sauce, on walls though above my reach (I’m 5’6″), So NOT QUITE so vigorous as the boys… And elder Daughter still doesn’t like spicy.
Spaghetti sauce on older son’s room. And we hadn’t had spaghetti in WEEKS. (Okay, turns out sandwich and he used packaged spaghetti sauce, and… but splotch of red on ceiling? HOW EVEN? Oh, old Victorian. Ceiling at least 12 feet.)
I took off my shoes so I wouldn’t get scuff marks on the ceiling. I would also climb the walls. I’d brace one foot on each side of the hallway. It was textured plaster and had a good grip.
Me three.
Three boys, and molasses on the ceiling in the living room. Our living room is not close to our kitchen. I’m still not sure how it got there.
The thing about Last Christmas is that it’s George Michael, so the melody is nice, at the very least. I don’t even know Christmas Shoes, and sounds like I don’t want to.
(Then again, my favorite since I was little is “Little Drummer Boy”, which many people apparently hate.)
I love little drummer boy, because it’s like a metaphor for my relationship with Himself. My writing is the only thing I have to give Him, so, as inadequate as it is, I’m a gonna bang my drum.
Technically about Christmas. Kid’s family all dies, he’s enslaved, sold, and forced to work in a circus. At the very end of the hour long animated “movie” his best friend is killed just in time for him to play for the Christ Child.
Yeah. Some even seem to be doing fairly well. I hunt them out when we’re on the road as places to get in a walk in bad weather.
But also yeah, there are a LOT of semi-empty malls and walking those can be creepy.
The night-shift one could also be about natural red-heads and warm, sunny beaches. Except you’d never, ever see me out on the beach after sunrise. I burn too quickly.
The Fed holding down the rates for so long means that Treasury has “monetized” an enormous amount of debt at very low fixed rates, which now that rates are high and inflation is running amok, is biting the federal balance sheet pretty hard, and shaking it.
Well, just another Saturday in Tennessee. Turned on the TV to watch college football and watched Radar maps instead. It’s very interesting in the Nashville area right now… the ABC affiliate caught a tornado live on one of their cameras.
(We are NOT in the Nashville area).
TINS. When a tornado hit Kansas State University, a Topeka TV station’s weather cam caught it live. And got caught. The last thing before they cut back to the studio is, “It ate the camera!”
Well, I remember the World Series game that got interrupted by the earthquake. The sports guys did a darn good job of reporting the temblor. Better than the usual talking heads.
Al Michaels has a storied career in sports announcing, including the most famous call in ice hockey history, but the Loma Prieta earthquake was his finest hour. Few newscasters could have done better, and a whole lot would have done worse. I need to dig up his memoir some day, to read what he has to say about it.
Oh, and the memes were pretty decent too. Though 65 countries celebrating independence from Britan all on separate days … seems unlikely to me. It takes just 23 people in a group to have a greater than even chance that two share a birthday. Sixty-five on separate days … I must resist the urge to go on a research binge to fact-check this.
We had friends who of their 5 children, two shared their mother’s birthday. Then there was the day when the two called 911 (early ’70s) because they were stalked followed home. The officer responding, was angry at them because he thought they were making a prank call. Three birth certificates later, officer discovered differently.
Long ago essay by Berton Rouche concerning a family and their tomatoes. Seemed they harvested the first crop and had it for lunch….and most of them wound up in the emergency room hallucinating golden bees flying around their heads and the like. Seems they’d followed a neighbor’s advice and grafted the tomatoes onto Jimson weed plants. (The real question was why the neighbor never poisoned himself. He’d been doing it, and eating the tomatoes, for years).
Thanks for the memes. Need the lighthearted stuff. Been sick for two weeks, managing to get flu and coof at the same time. Lungs are OK so unlikely to croak. Have gone suddenly gray, which was unexpected. I have a really odd haircolor that tends to mask gray. But now I am showing major patches. Dropping 15 pounds was a plan. Doing so by being ill was not. Grumpy as a teenager.
Take your vitamins as you start feeling better. You will still have the gray, but more dark/original color hairs will grow, or become more prominent again.
I started going gray more than twenty years ago, but it hasn’t caught on all the way yet! Mwah ha ha!
Technically I didn’t see gray, with black (salt & pepper), until I was late 50’s. First white hair OTOH was 45 years ago (age 22). My hair is/was dark auburn brown. A few white hairs (red highlights) stood out.
Because stress makes you shed hair, so you look like suddenly you have more gray. So you just have to convince your body that the illness stress is over, by topping up your nutrient tanks.
I keep it short, but there is enough to see some time elapsed. In the changed areas, the roots are a new color, or lack thereof. And I do not think my lifetime of pseudo mouse brown (various girlfriends “What the heck color is this???”) has suddenly gone platinum blonde.
Considering several folks on my mom’s side went suddenly gray in relation to a major health event, this might be a warning that I need to make some life changes.
And with all this respiratory crud going around, once again I recommend stocking up on generic guaifenesin or brand name Mucinex, and on using a heating pad on your chest if you start feeling gunky. The Coof hates heat, and the other creeping cruds don’t like it either.
I’ve a fluffy heating pad that vibrates when you scritch the ears. Doofus does not like the new swing shift messing with his warm spot time, but he abides with difficulty.
Miz Kitty has been very very happy with me sleeping more than usual. When I try to work from home, she will scold and nag to try to get me out of the chair and over to the bed.
This 100 times this. Asthmatic here with a tendency to Bronchitis. First sign of congestion or chest issues get yourself on that guaifenesin if nothing else indicates against it. It saves me A LOT of trouble.
I’d place the Killer Tomato movies a few grades below B. Then again, I’d place the real-life horror movie we’re all stuck in a few grades below B, too.
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Always, always have a Plan O — for Oh Shit!
Raises paw I keep mine with me at Day Job, in case Fr. Martial (former military chaplain) and some of the others start comparing challenge coins. Mr. Long-Slavic-Last-Name has seen it, and he almost fell over laughing, followed by “I need that!”
Re the DuoLingo plushie – I did lessons on Duo for a total of 1111 days. My longest, just-ended streak was 674 days. I studied, in order, Japanese, Latin, and French.
When I finally evaluated my progress, I realized that I could not read, write, speak, or hear Japanese any better than when I started. I did finish the Latin course but did not learn anything that I had not learned back in High School.
The French course was touted to be teaching genuine Parisian French, but no two of the five narrators pronounce any given phrase the same way. And after ten months I still couldn’t understand much of what they were saying without the written prompts or the speak-slowly option.
When I finally admitted that I was only stubbornly logging in to do one or two French lessons a day just to keep my streak going, I decided it was time to quit and do something useful, like learning Linux. ;-)
The real irony is that according to their stats, my average of 20 minutes a day in 2023 put me in the top 4% of learners worldwide. Et je n’arrive toujours pas à parler français. (Google traduction est mon bon ami!)
well, this correlates with my belief that the way to learn languages is to start boring and memorize VAST amounts of words WITH TRANSLATIONS.
Mostly by copying them. though learning to pronounce them is also good.
Then move on to studying grammar and structure.
After a year of that, start reading in the language till you internalize it.
And while translation — trust me, I did this for a living at one time — is an imperfect tool, it’s perfectly fine to memorize translations of basic concepts, to give you a fund to build from.
I agree that memorization is a primary tool for learning any language. My primary goal in the beginning however, with the Japanese, was to learn to HEAR what was being spoken, and at least be able to distinguish the words even if I could not translate what they meant. I simply was unable to do that. I had the same problem with the French, and with German when I took two years of that in college.
I can pick up a moderate vocabulary and basic grammar rules, enough to translate the written exercises most of the time. But my brain does not readily recognize spoken words in anything except English, and even then a pronounced foreign or regional accent can render the speaker unintelligible to me unless it is someone I know well, or they speak quite slowly and distinctly.
I have often told customer service people flat out “Stop! I cannot understand you. Please repeat that slowly. Thank you.” Sometimes it works. Other times, I simply downrate them on the survey, especially if it asks “Could you understand the representative?”
Is this just me? I mean, after more than 25 years of listening to Anime in Japanese, I am still totally dependent upon the English subtitles for recognition of any phrase except “Good morning!”
100% I do not understand most people if they have a heavy accent, no matter how much I try. Really bad in math department for my first degree. I swear. English as a 3rd or 4th language with horrible accents.
When I worked for a company where I had to work with a section that was in France, all I could say on any reviews were “I can not understand their English. OTOH their English is a whole lot better than my French, which does not exist.”
Also ran into this when working with customers at my last job. The worst was a customer whose IT insisted on being the buffer between us and the end user. Never a good situation because the user requirements were never translated by IT without a lot of back and forth, and IT translation of what they thought the user needed. Every single time. Add an accent I can barely understand? OMG!
Up until the past 2-3 years, my hearing has been superlative, at least as far as volume and frequency. Now, not so much sigh. I also majored in music, played violin for years, could repeat any melody I heard. It has only been speech recognition that eluded me. I can hear the sounds. I just can’t parse them into words. It is one reason I changed my major in college from education to straight music. In my student teaching class, second graders, I sometimes could not understand the students.
I’ve lived in many parts of this country – NE, NW, MW, SW, Deep South and West Coast. So I’ve been around lots of different dialects and pronunciations of “standard” American English. Most people I can understand without much difficulty. But anything too far off from center and I am lost. The average New Delhi tech support may as well be speaking Hindi. ;-(
Cute video. Although the poster could have edited out the original text. I’m not crazy about Elton John’s personal life, but he’s a good musician. https://youtu.be/LXag2ZpsduU
And admirably he has generally adhered to the seldom followed music industry “Shut Up and Sing” rule. He’s not made any great secret about things, but he also is not annoyingly crusading about anything as far as has impinged on my not-following-the-music-industry consciousness.
Freedom/Liberty means you have the right to do as you please so long as doing so does not infringe upon the rights of others. I really don’t care what musicians, actors, others in general, do so long as they keep it in their own yard and are not violating the rights of others. None of my damned business, but, once you cross that line you are fair game.
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Santa will always steer you right, and that’s no bull.
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Carps Away! :twisted:
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They bounced off the escarpment.
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A Santapede?
At least it’s an upgrade to ‘eight tiny reindeer’.
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Eight Chunky Brown Steer?
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Oh, Santa’s visiting Ft. Worth! Cool.
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It also doesn’t start with a spinach and sweet potato smoothie…. which recipe actually showed up in my inbox last week.
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ewwww
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Ye gads. Who did you tick off, SN, and how badly, to get that sent to you?
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I looked up a recipe a couple of years ago and got on the mailing list, apparently. Usually, it’s harmless, or even useful….. I think someone was scraping the bottom of the fridge for that one, though.
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Spinach has been verboten for 11 years, 5 months and 3 weeks and I miss it, but after that smoothie from Hell, maybe not.
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Ye gads apparently someone is on the Naughty list. Well Done!!!
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And here is is, in all its “glory”:
https://haverecipes.com/sweet-potato-spinach-smoothie/
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Ah, it’s a “quarantine recipe.” That explains a lot.
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“This is Hanukkah” is spot on.
The “idiot crusher” is sick but accurate. I did some reading on that thing and its creators, it was pretty amazing. One video showed the head guy dismissing the people with actual expertise in the field as “old white guys”. So it’s not just “go woke, go broke” but “go woke, go die”.
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When I posted the meme, someone commented, “I wonder what it feels like, knowing you paid to die.”
I replied with “Absolutely nothing. Their brains ceased to exist before a pain signal, or danger stimulus, could reach them.”
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I feel sorry for the kid who went on the trip to please his father. The rest, see Elon Musk.
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“Think of it as evolution in action.”
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Hear! Hear! Thank you Niven and Pournelle…
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“There is a fine line between clever and stupid.”
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The list of ‘Things The Government Can Stick Up Their Ass’ is far too short.
I don’t think this text box is big enough to hold the real list. There’s a character limit, right?
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I know, right?
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I mean, an ICBM or two with the fuse lit (I know, I know) would be a good start.
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List = Universal Set.
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Can confirm the chili ceiling phenomenon.
Boy howdy, can I EVER.
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Me too. Two boys.
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Only one. Spaghetti sauce, though.
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yeah. well, younger son didn’t like spicy when he was young.
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Two daughters, Spaghetti sauce, on walls though above my reach (I’m 5’6″), So NOT QUITE so vigorous as the boys… And elder Daughter still doesn’t like spicy.
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Spaghetti sauce on older son’s room. And we hadn’t had spaghetti in WEEKS. (Okay, turns out sandwich and he used packaged spaghetti sauce, and… but splotch of red on ceiling? HOW EVEN? Oh, old Victorian. Ceiling at least 12 feet.)
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Mother complained about footprints on the ceiling.
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Anything you want to confess?
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I took off my shoes so I wouldn’t get scuff marks on the ceiling. I would also climb the walls. I’d brace one foot on each side of the hallway. It was textured plaster and had a good grip.
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Me three.
Three boys, and molasses on the ceiling in the living room. Our living room is not close to our kitchen. I’m still not sure how it got there.
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Barn roof. Briefly, decorated with a single slice of pizza. On the inside of the roof. Suspect the crows got it by morning.
Alibis? I gotz ’em.
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My wife likes my cooking – but does complain that I get flour on the ceiling.
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I need a hat for “team says nothing way, way too loudly, even when I really don’t mean to.”
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Black ball cap.
Small amount scrambled eggs on bill.
Front of hat, in gold open quote, 2″ space, close quote.
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Except she said ‘way too loudly’ so it would be:
” !!”
[The space should be a lot longer but, WPDE]
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“!!!”
might work, especially if I don’t have the scrambled eggs.
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Better:
“!!!!!”
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I despise, “Last Christmas,” with a flaming purple passion, so the Kali-ma meme gave me a good laugh.
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I concur.
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McCartney’s Christmas song from the ’80s is far, far worse, though.
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Dan likes Last Christmas, so you know what, don’t care. The only Christmas song that makes me go instant rage monster is Christmas Shoes.
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The thing about Last Christmas is that it’s George Michael, so the melody is nice, at the very least. I don’t even know Christmas Shoes, and sounds like I don’t want to.
(Then again, my favorite since I was little is “Little Drummer Boy”, which many people apparently hate.)
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I love little drummer boy, because it’s like a metaphor for my relationship with Himself. My writing is the only thing I have to give Him, so, as inadequate as it is, I’m a gonna bang my drum.
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Ringo Starr does a version that’s just lovely.
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I love the Bing Crosby/David Bowie duet version. Saw it when it was first televised.
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The actual duet is as nice as it is strange. The “acting” in the sketch that surrounds it is… probably best forgotten.
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Soured to hearing, “Space Oddity,” it’s a revelation to hear Bowie singing like that. What a beautiful voice.
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“So used to hearing…”
Fumblefingers are getting a workout.
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There are so many songs in his catalogue that his Bowie’s voice really shines on.
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So does Wynton Marsalis
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Wynton’s a trumpeter. Ringo is a drummer. There’s a certain heartfeltness to Ringo’s.
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Well, it’s not just, him, but his ensemble. From Album Crescent City Christmas (which is quite good):
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Ringo’s version:
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In my case, my dislike of The Little Drummer Boy is based on the animated version. I’m ok with the song itself.
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I’m good with, “Little Drummer Boy,” but tired to the teeth of, “Do You Hear What I Hear?”
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And here I thought I was the only one. I hate that song, hate, hate, hate.
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Christmas Shoes? No. I scream like someone wounded when it starts and Dan has to change the station.
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At least it’s actually about Christmas. “Last Christmas,” is simply a breakup song and revolves around the hurt feelings gs of the si get.
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Technically about Christmas. Kid’s family all dies, he’s enslaved, sold, and forced to work in a circus. At the very end of the hour long animated “movie” his best friend is killed just in time for him to play for the Christ Child.
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Everything Wham did was either a breakup song or a cheating song.
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More evidence that country music has completely taken over pop.
If for some reason Taylor Swift wasn’t enough.
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So rewrite it.
“Last Christmas, I gave you a hart.
The very next day you blew it apart…”
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I’ve been a McCartney fan since I was a kid in the 70s, but even I hate that song.
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I imagine she’s a ghost haunting the transplant surgeon… it helps, though not much.
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Um…Hart. Not Heart. A hart is a deer.
He gave her a deer. She went hunting.
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“Wreck the malls” has a certain charm…
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There are any malls left?
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Yeah. Some even seem to be doing fairly well. I hunt them out when we’re on the road as places to get in a walk in bad weather.
But also yeah, there are a LOT of semi-empty malls and walking those can be creepy.
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The night-shift one could also be about natural red-heads and warm, sunny beaches. Except you’d never, ever see me out on the beach after sunrise. I burn too quickly.
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(Reads meme about keeping mouth shut but subtitles being visible on face)
I feel called out.
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Hey, at least you KNOW it. Took me years to figure it out.
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Guilty.
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I always look forward to these
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Inflation is the Fed’s guaranteed profit margin.
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The Fed holding down the rates for so long means that Treasury has “monetized” an enormous amount of debt at very low fixed rates, which now that rates are high and inflation is running amok, is biting the federal balance sheet pretty hard, and shaking it.
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Interest on the federal debt alone is now over $1 trillion per year and increasing.
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Fixed rates for six or twelve months and then needs to be rolled over, so not really fixed.
If they had made it all 100 yr bonds at 2% they’d be looking pretty good now.
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Very Off Topic
I forget which of you great people recommended “Epubor Ultimate” but I purchased it and It Is Great!
Minor problem with finding Kindle ebooks in my Desk Top Kindle Library but it helps to have downloaded the ebooks to my Kindle For PC. [Crazy Grin]
I only have a few (ie 248) Kindle ebooks to convert. [Big Crazy Grin]
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You are welcome. Worth every penny!!!
:-)
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And thanks from, me as well. I bought it yesterday.
Start your day with a service ticket … It’ll all be fine, I expect.
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Upon the “what’s really bothering you?”
I feel called out.
eye twitches uncontrollably.
Regarding the castle suburbia meme. I think I had to run wire and network that house. Ye blobs and little fishes, I’d almost forgot about that one.
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that one would have driven me to the madhouse in short order, I swear.
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Wait…. that is a “dont” meme? Aw crap…
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Of course.
…It needs a moat and drawbridge as well.
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I laughed SO hard at the extra finger meme. I have someone I need to send it to.
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The ‘Palestinian charity’ one is missing a few things:
Rockets
RPG’s
Suicide bombs
Hate propaganda
Indoctrination centers
Etc.
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True that.
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Well, just another Saturday in Tennessee. Turned on the TV to watch college football and watched Radar maps instead. It’s very interesting in the Nashville area right now… the ABC affiliate caught a tornado live on one of their cameras.
(We are NOT in the Nashville area).
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Could be worse.
You could be watching the game get swept away by a tornado. :-P
I wonder how they’d announce that? “There goes #78. No, wait! He’s grabbed onto the light tower! He’s holding on for all he’s worth…”
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TINS. When a tornado hit Kansas State University, a Topeka TV station’s weather cam caught it live. And got caught. The last thing before they cut back to the studio is, “It ate the camera!”
Well, I remember the World Series game that got interrupted by the earthquake. The sports guys did a darn good job of reporting the temblor. Better than the usual talking heads.
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Al Michaels has a storied career in sports announcing, including the most famous call in ice hockey history, but the Loma Prieta earthquake was his finest hour. Few newscasters could have done better, and a whole lot would have done worse. I need to dig up his memoir some day, to read what he has to say about it.
Oh, and the memes were pretty decent too. Though 65 countries celebrating independence from Britan all on separate days … seems unlikely to me. It takes just 23 people in a group to have a greater than even chance that two share a birthday. Sixty-five on separate days … I must resist the urge to go on a research binge to fact-check this.
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We had friends who of their 5 children, two shared their mother’s birthday. Then there was the day when the two called 911 (early ’70s) because they were
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Tornadoes just don’t appreciate publicity. :-D
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Long ago essay by Berton Rouche concerning a family and their tomatoes. Seemed they harvested the first crop and had it for lunch….and most of them wound up in the emergency room hallucinating golden bees flying around their heads and the like. Seems they’d followed a neighbor’s advice and grafted the tomatoes onto Jimson weed plants. (The real question was why the neighbor never poisoned himself. He’d been doing it, and eating the tomatoes, for years).
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The Reader has relatives in Clarksville. Have to check on them today.
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There’s a Doctor Pepper commercial about the transfer portal going rogue and sucking the football team in.
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LOL
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Thanks for the memes. Need the lighthearted stuff. Been sick for two weeks, managing to get flu and coof at the same time. Lungs are OK so unlikely to croak. Have gone suddenly gray, which was unexpected. I have a really odd haircolor that tends to mask gray. But now I am showing major patches. Dropping 15 pounds was a plan. Doing so by being ill was not. Grumpy as a teenager.
Wah. Freaking. Wah.
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Take your vitamins as you start feeling better. You will still have the gray, but more dark/original color hairs will grow, or become more prominent again.
I started going gray more than twenty years ago, but it hasn’t caught on all the way yet! Mwah ha ha!
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Technically I didn’t see gray, with black (salt & pepper), until I was late 50’s. First white hair OTOH was 45 years ago (age 22). My hair is/was dark auburn brown. A few white hairs (red highlights) stood out.
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Mostly grey.
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For years, I’d tell people that there was no grey in my beard.
Now, there were some white in my beard. [Crazy Grin]
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Hey, don’t be dissing the blonde highlights…. 8-)
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Hugs. Get yourself well.
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Because stress makes you shed hair, so you look like suddenly you have more gray. So you just have to convince your body that the illness stress is over, by topping up your nutrient tanks.
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LOL. Thanks for that.
I keep it short, but there is enough to see some time elapsed. In the changed areas, the roots are a new color, or lack thereof. And I do not think my lifetime of pseudo mouse brown (various girlfriends “What the heck color is this???”) has suddenly gone platinum blonde.
Considering several folks on my mom’s side went suddenly gray in relation to a major health event, this might be a warning that I need to make some life changes.
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That bites. Just got over a flu, now I have the cough that never ends. Still not as bad as coof/flu combo.
Prayers for ya. Like all things, this too shall pass.
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And with all this respiratory crud going around, once again I recommend stocking up on generic guaifenesin or brand name Mucinex, and on using a heating pad on your chest if you start feeling gunky. The Coof hates heat, and the other creeping cruds don’t like it either.
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I’ve a fluffy heating pad that vibrates when you scritch the ears. Doofus does not like the new swing shift messing with his warm spot time, but he abides with difficulty.
Fingers crossed, no more flus this season.
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Miz Kitty has been very very happy with me sleeping more than usual. When I try to work from home, she will scold and nag to try to get me out of the chair and over to the bed.
Goofy cat…..
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This 100 times this. Asthmatic here with a tendency to Bronchitis. First sign of congestion or chest issues get yourself on that guaifenesin if nothing else indicates against it. It saves me A LOT of trouble.
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I think the Christmas tree at the mall in Novia Scotia must have been left over from the ones that were supposed to go to Sunnydale :)
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“Is that a dumpster fire?”
Howling
I mean, it’s so funny because it’s so horribly true, but….
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Right?
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I am also horribly curious about the danger from tomatoes. ;)
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Probably too many of them…
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Not after we all get there, there won’t be.
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Maybe they’re Killer Tomatoes? :-o
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“They are gardeners and laborers, not Tomato Men.”
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Life has been too much like a grade B horror movie these days, yes.
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I’d place the Killer Tomato movies a few grades below B. Then again, I’d place the real-life horror movie we’re all stuck in a few grades below B, too.
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Always, always have a Plan O — for Oh Shit!
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No argument here!
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They judge you. (You call that a knife? It’s a strand of wet spaghetti!)
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See above. Rouche also had an essay about a bright orange man who, it turned out, had ‘way too many tomatoes and carrots in his diet.
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I’m surprised that card’s not turning up in everybody’s fortunes these days.
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I have an “operation enduring cluster####” coin that includes a flaming dumpster
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Raises paw I keep mine with me at Day Job, in case Fr. Martial (former military chaplain) and some of the others start comparing challenge coins. Mr. Long-Slavic-Last-Name has seen it, and he almost fell over laughing, followed by “I need that!”
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Well, I also have the coin from my service. (Grin) Also have a bunch of ones I give to coworkers with “Nie moj circ. Nie moje malpe.” (Grin)
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Re the DuoLingo plushie – I did lessons on Duo for a total of 1111 days. My longest, just-ended streak was 674 days. I studied, in order, Japanese, Latin, and French.
When I finally evaluated my progress, I realized that I could not read, write, speak, or hear Japanese any better than when I started. I did finish the Latin course but did not learn anything that I had not learned back in High School.
The French course was touted to be teaching genuine Parisian French, but no two of the five narrators pronounce any given phrase the same way. And after ten months I still couldn’t understand much of what they were saying without the written prompts or the speak-slowly option.
When I finally admitted that I was only stubbornly logging in to do one or two French lessons a day just to keep my streak going, I decided it was time to quit and do something useful, like learning Linux. ;-)
The real irony is that according to their stats, my average of 20 minutes a day in 2023 put me in the top 4% of learners worldwide. Et je n’arrive toujours pas à parler français. (Google traduction est mon bon ami!)
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well, this correlates with my belief that the way to learn languages is to start boring and memorize VAST amounts of words WITH TRANSLATIONS.
Mostly by copying them. though learning to pronounce them is also good.
Then move on to studying grammar and structure.
After a year of that, start reading in the language till you internalize it.
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THIS. Memorization is the basis of all learning. If you don’t have it (in your brain, you can’t use it.
Memorization just works. It ain’t pretty, it ain’t cute, but it gets the job done.
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And while translation — trust me, I did this for a living at one time — is an imperfect tool, it’s perfectly fine to memorize translations of basic concepts, to give you a fund to build from.
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Poetry is really good for this and songs.
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I agree that memorization is a primary tool for learning any language. My primary goal in the beginning however, with the Japanese, was to learn to HEAR what was being spoken, and at least be able to distinguish the words even if I could not translate what they meant. I simply was unable to do that. I had the same problem with the French, and with German when I took two years of that in college.
I can pick up a moderate vocabulary and basic grammar rules, enough to translate the written exercises most of the time. But my brain does not readily recognize spoken words in anything except English, and even then a pronounced foreign or regional accent can render the speaker unintelligible to me unless it is someone I know well, or they speak quite slowly and distinctly.
I have often told customer service people flat out “Stop! I cannot understand you. Please repeat that slowly. Thank you.” Sometimes it works. Other times, I simply downrate them on the survey, especially if it asks “Could you understand the representative?”
Is this just me? I mean, after more than 25 years of listening to Anime in Japanese, I am still totally dependent upon the English subtitles for recognition of any phrase except “Good morning!”
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100% I do not understand most people if they have a heavy accent, no matter how much I try. Really bad in math department for my first degree. I swear. English as a 3rd or 4th language with horrible accents.
When I worked for a company where I had to work with a section that was in France, all I could say on any reviews were “I can not understand their English. OTOH their English is a whole lot better than my French, which does not exist.”
Also ran into this when working with customers at my last job. The worst was a customer whose IT insisted on being the buffer between us and the end user. Never a good situation because the user requirements were never translated by IT without a lot of back and forth, and IT translation of what they thought the user needed. Every single time. Add an accent I can barely understand? OMG!
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Is your hearing okay? My hearing has gone funky, which plays havoc with understanding even Portuguese. And I no longer understand accents in English.
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Up until the past 2-3 years, my hearing has been superlative, at least as far as volume and frequency. Now, not so much sigh. I also majored in music, played violin for years, could repeat any melody I heard. It has only been speech recognition that eluded me. I can hear the sounds. I just can’t parse them into words. It is one reason I changed my major in college from education to straight music. In my student teaching class, second graders, I sometimes could not understand the students.
I’ve lived in many parts of this country – NE, NW, MW, SW, Deep South and West Coast. So I’ve been around lots of different dialects and pronunciations of “standard” American English. Most people I can understand without much difficulty. But anything too far off from center and I am lost. The average New Delhi tech support may as well be speaking Hindi. ;-(
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Mine was always wonky, so being a language major was fun ;)
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“Get mother what she really wants…”
Ad shows a suppressed 1911.
…
Mom was a competitive bullseye shooter.
(Imagines mom with access to suppressed 1911)
(grin )
(Huge grin)
(“Oh don throw me in dat dere briar pach” grin)
Sigh… miss ya, mom.
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Cute video. Although the poster could have edited out the original text. I’m not crazy about Elton John’s personal life, but he’s a good musician. https://youtu.be/LXag2ZpsduU
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Long time ago…
“Don’t you know about Elton John?”
“You mean he’s queer as a three-dollar bill? So what?”
“SO WHAT!? You don’t care?”
“I’m listening to his music, not dating him.”
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LOL
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Had that same conversation, only it was Melissa Etheridge, not Elton.
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Yeah, I wouldn’t date her either. Or her spouse.
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And admirably he has generally adhered to the seldom followed music industry “Shut Up and Sing” rule. He’s not made any great secret about things, but he also is not annoyingly crusading about anything as far as has impinged on my not-following-the-music-industry consciousness.
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Freedom/Liberty means you have the right to do as you please so long as doing so does not infringe upon the rights of others. I really don’t care what musicians, actors, others in general, do so long as they keep it in their own yard and are not violating the rights of others. None of my damned business, but, once you cross that line you are fair game.
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I have meme I wish to share.
Um… how do I picture….
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I post it on twitter and then paste the twitter here.
May have to change the address to “vxtwitter” from “twitter.”
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Trying.
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:laughs:
It worked, and also heh.
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“Honey? Have you seen my plot armor?”
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“I think I saw our child playing with it.”
“Oh no…”
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