101 thoughts on “In The Jungle, The Mighty Jungle The Memes Sleep Tonight”
Gonna have to pass on a girl that’d take care of me the way the press takes care of Joe Biden. I mean, the enabling, the covering up mistakes, the treating him like a toddler with potty issues… That don’t sound good to me.
I want a girl that treats me the way Morticia Addams treats Gomez. Supportive, independent, caring, and utterly ruthless to anyone that threatens the family. Class, style, and manners are a definite plus, too.
And I noticed the focus too hard cat is not orange. Otherwise, I’d take it that somebody had catnapped Doofus. Because he does that. Not the brightest bulb in the drawer is the orange floofball.
Not being anarchists, neither fo those would be considered more radical than Rand. Indeed, both are considerably less than she. Both very smart, but my joke was specific.
(And yes, I am aware that Mises wasn’t technically an anarchist, but he was at least arguably closer to it than Rand.)
The Reader thinks it is a bit of a stretch to call Rand an anarchist. At least it doesn’t jibe with the last Galt’s Gultch scene where one of the folks there is marking up the Constitution to eliminate its ‘contradictions’ as they get ready to go back to the world.
And apparently since the context was not sufficiently clear, the “more” referred to “radical” (hence the phrasing, “more radical”), so when I referred to Friedman and Sowell as “considerably less than she”, the “less” was also referring to “radical”, not “anarchist.”
The Reader will have to check the unread pile in the library. He finished Christmas in the Stars yesterday. Thank you for that. It made the Reader smile.
Part of the power the other side wields is the fact that most people are still unable to conceive of how much the institutions have been weaponized against them.
Doofus gets in between the house door and the screen door. I open the screen door, he cries to get inside. I open the house door, he cries to get outside. Open both he turns in a circle and lays down. On the step of the door frame.
The front door is a double type. There, he gets in between the left half while the right is completely open, and cries. Two inches separate him from complete freedom.
Two inches is a bridge too far for his one tiny brain cell. Can’t tell you how many times he needs to be rescued when he traps himself like that.
Doofus may be stupid. but he’s not malicious. He just wants scritches, naps, a warm spot to sleep in, and for all dogs to spontaneously lose the ability to bark in a 100 yard square around wherever he’s at. And the world to be full of inside and never any outside (it’s scary out there).
He’s not too bright, but he’s got a good heart regardless. Anybody sad or fragile comes around, they’ve got a fluffy orange limpet mine that won’t let go or stop purring ’till they cheer back up. Doofus believes in you, even if you don’t. I’ve even seen him skip a meal to keep someone company before.
Biden’s a liar, a cheat, and utterly stupid. He lies and then he doubles down when caught at it. He solicits bribes and brags about it. He’s corrupt to the core. He might be a pedo (there’s credible evidence of it, and it ain’t hard to see).
He’s also so old he needs a rocking chair and a blanket, not the Oval Office. He needs minders. It’s cruel what they are doing to that doddering old lying, corrupt, perpetual bureaucrat.
Doofus gets old, he’ll still have his scritches, his naps, and his warm spot to sleep in. Nobody expects the orange floofball to lead the free world, but he’s at least reliable enough to keep mice out of the kitchen and as a cat, he’s inherently uncorruptable. Politics would be too much work.
You could never “sell” the story of the last 2 decades to a movie producer or book editor (back when they had good ones).
No one would believe anyone could suspend their disbelief enough.
Not even with dragons and magic.
Heck “democrat voter” works too. This type of boat launching is not new, nor is it, the only type of boat launch mishaps we’ve seen. Some people should just never own boats.
FWIW the last comment excludes those of us who keep having boat accidents that cause certain noise makers to fall out and disappear. We at least can launch the boats appropriately. (Because none of us vote democrat. :-) ) We just can’t keep noisy slug throwers from falling out of boats.
Ice fishing. Why’d I take my guns ice fishing? Because it was on the way back from the range. Duh. Was a good range day. Last good range day I had. Insurance wouldn’t cover replacements.
Whole danged shack went under when the ice broke. I got out. Never went ice fishing again, that’s for dang sure.
Ice fishing isn’t really a thing in this neck of the woods. Not even on the lakes in the mountains. Not thick enough ice, where there is ice, on accessible lakes.
My wife likes to cube it and fry it up. Nothing quite like homemade fried ice.
Fries up quick, keeps in the refrigerator for up to a week. Serve in a bowl or glass. Just don’t put it in the freezer, it’s never quite the same again.
Both in-store and online retail sales increased year-over-year unadjusted for inflation, according to Mastercard’s SpendingPulse insights, which noted that apparel, jewelry and restaurant categories saw considerable spikes. In-store sales jumped a little more than 1%, while e-commerce led the charge with an increase of 8.5%.
Yes, in-store sales “jumped” a little more than 1% unadjusted for inflation in a year where the official inflation rate is still over 3%.
“Jumped.”
Proving once again that there’s no math requirement in j-skool.
That’s the new math talking. Common core, something like that? Old math doesn’t care about such shenanigans. That “jumped” is incorrect, unless they meant to type “jumped down” and dropped a word.
When you think about all the lives you have touched with your stories and posts, most for the better. Some people there is no helping, happens. One or two days off is just karma.
140% inflation and the Argentinian government was concerned with making sure they met their trans quotas. Gee, I wonder why the voters elected the radical libertarian?
So, I’m seeing some leftie sources claiming that Milei supports selling minors or the unregulated sale of human organs. Because my trust of anything these people claim is hovering somewhere below zero, does anyone have any concrete evidence one way or another?
I mean, they’re already calling a guy who wants to dismantle the government bureaucracy an “authoritarian”. Because the power of a massive government is all that stands between you and the power of massive governments.
Evil thought for the day:
What if we made slavery the punishment for illegal immigration?
Round them up like wild horses, and auction them off?
Of course, that way also leads to using the excess unsold inventory like old horses, for pet food.
But then that’s no different than what the communists want to do with us anyway.
One of the horror stories out of Israel is that a third wave of “ordinary” Palestinians went into Israel after Hamas and kidnapped Israelis, so they could have their own, “pet Israelis.” I.E., slaves.
Today is my Twitter fast, unless the fecal matter impacts the oscillator, so maybe I can get my blood pressure down to normal levels.
Yeah, do they support forcing women into careers they don’t want or jobs they’d hate just so the ‘equity’ numbers come out right? Cause I’ll tell you, not a lot of women want to work in steel mills or coal mines.
Reminds me of this one girl we had in Adventurer’s Club back in high school. She was spelunking crazy. She was totally nuts about crawling around in dark, dirty, places deep underground. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed caving with a group of folks; but I was always soberly aware of the vast amount of earth and rock above my head.
I don’t see any way this could be squished down into a meme, but here goes:
Burning natural gas produces heat.
Burning gas in a gas stove produces heat right where you need it, with very little loss or waste.
An electric stove requires electricity, most of which is produced by burning natural gas in electric generating plants 20 miles or more away from where you need it.
The electric generating plant has to convert that heat into electricity. They boil water and use the steam to turn turbines and generators, BUT — they can only convert about 1/3 of the energy into electricity. The rest is lost as waste heat which has to be dissipated into the air, or into a cooling pond, river, lake or ocean.
The electricity passes through transformers, substations, many miles of high-voltage transmission cables, more substations and transformers, losing another 5% – 10% along the way, until finally it gets to your house. There, it is connected to a thick wire called a heating element and converted to heat in your electric stove.
If you just burned gas in your stove in the first place, you’d get the same amount of heat from about 1/4 as much gas.
But they’re trying to ban gas stoves because they’re not ‘Green!!’.
“Yeah, they’re all in favor of fusion energy — so long as it remains an unattainable pie-in-the-sky technology. But let somebody threaten to deliver practical, large-scale fusion power next month, all of a sudden they’re agin it.”
It’s a war on the middle class. How DARE we be prosperous and happy? How DARE we think we might be their equals? We need to be put in our place!
Another reason for the Twitter fast, so I don’t start chewing the furniture.
And gas stoves to electric are the most straightforward.
Worse is how they want to replace the proven technology nat gas hot water heaters with frelling heat pump hot water heaters. Which are way more expensive, and more complicated, and not proven in use for decades.
And you’ll likely need a new high-amp circuit to wherever your water heater lives.
And likely a panel upgrade.
And possibly a service upgrade, for which the current utility wait is nine months and climbing.
And the grid, at least out here in Gavin’s Glorious Bear Flag People’s Republic, is already stretched to the limit in what it can supply, with capacity-driven rolling blackouts threatened every summer thanks to people actually using their air conditioners when it’s hot, in addition to the oh-noes-it’s-windy public safety blackouts due to the utility doing diversity for the past decades instead of system upgrades and maintaining lines.
But Mother Gaia is a demanding goddess, and the little people must sacrifice to feed her insatiable hunger.
You’d have to put in a 30 or 40 Amp 220V circuit for the electric stove. Most folks can’t do that themselves, and an electrician will cost $hundreds.
Heat pumps don’t work so good when the weather’s cold. They don’t work at all if it’s cold enough.
The reason for shutdowns on windy days can be traced directly to lawsuits. The utilities have been sued for $billions if the wind caused wires to spark and a fire started. It’s called weather, people. But you can’t sue the wind.
It’s like the Loma Prieta earthquake. Some of the best earthquake-resistant constructions failed so the lawyers sued everybody and their dog. Anything will break if shaken hard enough, but you can’t sue the Earth either.
Lawsuits, yes, but there were windy days and fallen lines which did not cause entire towns to burn to the ground back in the 1960s and 1970s, and no, it’s not “climate change”, it’s “We stopped clearing the brush out down to the dirt from under the lines like OG PG&E used to do in the old days.”
Which led to the fires, which led to the lawsuits.
And it’s not even all the utilities fault – they were told by the PUC (CA Public Utilities Commission) to spend some of their guaranteed profit as a regulated monopoly on other, more political things, rather than on upgrading their 40 or 50 or 60 or 70 year old lines and transformers, or better yet what they are doing now, undergrounding the lines so they can’t blow down; or on installing new technology to detect and immediately cut power to individual stretches of line the instant there’s the start of a short-to-ground; or even just on keeping their rural right-of-ways cleared of brush.
You can blame some of the untouched underbrush on Hollywierd. A couple of activist-actor-types got all het up over goats clearing out “pretty meadows” that happened to be grazing controlled brush around rights-of-way, and the eco-nuts latched on with “But my endangered whatevers!”
We put in a heat pump at the old house because we needed a new A/C unit, so we got the one that was a heater as well. It worked well, until it got down to about 10F. And would shut down at 5F, refusing to turn back on until it got about 20F. Which means for at least half the winter it was useless.
Locally if you have A/C then you have the outside “heat” pump component. Worse, the required standard is to drain condensation from any gas furnace into the condensation drain for the A/C pump component. Guess what freezes during long hard freezes? Then it backs up into the floater tray which causes the furnace to shutdown. We don’t have A/C so our drain just goes down the outside of the house (furnace is in the attic). Had trouble the first two winters. Installers came back first winter, insulated the drain hose (should have been adequate, next winter, hard freeze essentially said “Oh? Yea? NaNaNaNa”). Came back and really insulated the drain hose. Subsequent winters (there have been worse freezes, 2017 comes to mind) haven’t defeated it yet. Mom’s furnace is in a utility closet in the house. She has a switch that allows her to pull a drain hose across the hall and drain into the hall bathtub. She only does this if she is going to be gone for days, or if the normal drain freezes. Otherwise, while Willamette Valley can get down < 20F, it usually doesn’t stay there all day. Can. Just not like other places. Still irritating. Causes people to do stupid stuff too (causing fires, and suffocating gases).
There should be a secondary condensate drain in case the primary drain is blocked, and it should empty into a laundry sink or some other fixture inside the house so it can’t ever freeze.
There should also be a warning printed on it: “If this pipe is dripping, the primary condensate drain needs to be cleared.”
Then again, why do we just flush all that perfectly good distilled water down the drain? At least use it to water plants!
should be a secondary condensate drain in case the primary drain is blocked, and it should empty into a laundry sink or some other fixture inside the house so it can’t ever freeze.
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I think that is what mom has. Haven’t looked at it closely. There is a switch, or maybe part of the overflow. Problem is the nearest non-outside drain is the bathtub across the hall from the utility closet. Original ’63 furnace didn’t have this problem.
Our house the furnace is a *retrofit and is in the attic. There is no good place to drain other than across the attic and down the outside. Now we could put it in the garage, but 18 years ago the furnace still had to also air vent straight up (also why we couldn’t have a gas water heater). No way to retro fit a straight up air venting. Now can go sideways.
((*)) House came with ceiling heat. Do not get me started on the inefficiency of that, or the cost. Although honestly don’t know the full cost because we had the thermostats turned all the way down (short of turning off the breaker, that didn’t prevent them from heating some), and used wood heat. When we switched the electric savings was still only about an 24 month pay off on the new furnace and that included that we were paying for natural gas now.
Note the weather conditions in which heat pumps in heating mode work provenly well pretty much describes California weather in the coastal or coastal-adjacent zones.
The “oh, look, CA passed this so we should too” reaction in other, less moderate climate states does not take this into account.
And the coastal elite over here on the left coast do not even consider that weather elsewhere, even as they jet to Aspen for skiing, when they make lofty “Those flyovers should just stop burning natural gas, Buffy” pronouncements from their well heated manses.
Ground-source heat pumps — often called “geothermal” by the under-educated — are wonderful things. When installed (and sized) correctly. They’re honestly more efficient than natural gas heat… and also more efficient than traditional air conditioners. Even when you include the assorted losses in electricity generation and transmission. That is, when measured on a full life-cycle basis.That said, they entail a quite substantial capital cost up front. Depending on your specific climate, financial situation, size of yard/property and/or ability to have a well drilled, assumptions about future financial performance, and other factors, they may or may not be “better overall” than natural gas.
No one true way, and all that. OK: few one true ways, and this ain’t one of them!
I like to keep my house between 65°F and 75°F, but my bedroom has to be under 70°F at night or trying to sleep is miserable. For that, I use a window-type air conditioner that’s installed through the house wall because the bedroom window is not well positioned for an air conditioner. Probably uses 4-6 KWH per night, after my solar panels produced 10-15 KWH during the day.
By the way, I hate the phrase ‘hot water heater’! It’s just plain ‘water heater’! Hot water is already hot, so you don’t heat it; you heat cold water to make it hot!
But it’s so easy, being an ‘Activist!’ You don’t have to know anything, or even put any thought into it; just pick a topic you feel strongly about and make a lot of noise.
Oh, and cast shame on anybody who refutes your noise with actual, you know, facts, logic and analysis. They’re just Eeevul Capitalists! Off with their heads!
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“‘Ow d’yer know she’s a witch?”
Electric hot water heaters are about the most inefficient things in a house. A big tank of water you’re constantly trying to keep hot for the infrequent times you actually use it. The entire Biden Administration is just as demented as the creepy old guy occupying the Offal Office.
I had a natural gas tankless on-demand hot water heater that worked well, though it was slightly undersized, so when asked to heat full flow rate to hot it didn’t get really hot. But at lower rates it would make plenty-hot water forever, and the difference in the gas bill was noticeable even way back then.
A correctly sized tankless would be perfect, but we ended up replacing it with a standard nat gas tank water heater when the local hard water got to it, partially for cost and partially just because of the hassle of finding where to get a correct one vs. just buying the tank one at Home Depot.
Of course, these super-efficient tankless on-demand hot water heaters will be outlawed here along with everything else that uses nat gas because Gaia hates hot water.
According To Hoyt 
Gonna have to pass on a girl that’d take care of me the way the press takes care of Joe Biden. I mean, the enabling, the covering up mistakes, the treating him like a toddler with potty issues… That don’t sound good to me.
I want a girl that treats me the way Morticia Addams treats Gomez. Supportive, independent, caring, and utterly ruthless to anyone that threatens the family. Class, style, and manners are a definite plus, too.
And I noticed the focus too hard cat is not orange. Otherwise, I’d take it that somebody had catnapped Doofus. Because he does that. Not the brightest bulb in the drawer is the orange floofball.
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I want a relationship like Jabba the Hutt and Princess Leia.
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So do you want to be the strangler or stranglee? (NTTAWWT)
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Oooo. Kinky. And Jabba ended up the way too many of the Low O2 Sex types do; room temperature carrion.
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Not for long, remember his corpse for a little ‘splodey
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“Who gave you these Ayn Rand books?”
“Lady, just be glad I didn’t give him any Rothbard, Mises, or Hans Herman Hoppe.”
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Or Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell for that matter.
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Not being anarchists, neither fo those would be considered more radical than Rand. Indeed, both are considerably less than she. Both very smart, but my joke was specific.
(And yes, I am aware that Mises wasn’t technically an anarchist, but he was at least arguably closer to it than Rand.)
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The Reader thinks it is a bit of a stretch to call Rand an anarchist. At least it doesn’t jibe with the last Galt’s Gultch scene where one of the folks there is marking up the Constitution to eliminate its ‘contradictions’ as they get ready to go back to the world.
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Please read what I actually wrote.
I defined “anarchist” as “MORE radical than Rand”.
The definition itself puts Rand outside of the term “anarchist”.
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And apparently since the context was not sufficiently clear, the “more” referred to “radical” (hence the phrasing, “more radical”), so when I referred to Friedman and Sowell as “considerably less than she”, the “less” was also referring to “radical”, not “anarchist.”
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The Reader stands corrected.
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Good. Now sit down. Have some tea and a good book.
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The Reader will have to check the unread pile in the library. He finished Christmas in the Stars yesterday. Thank you for that. It made the Reader smile.
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Thank you.
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For some, Rand is a gateway drug. :)
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I find Rand to be a depressant, and a soporific. So much of Atlas Shrugged is like a mirror of America today. And she wrote that prior to 1957.
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These were fun, thank you! But are we sure that the “finding cool stuff” pic isn’t Midjourney? ;)
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Dunno, but I don’t often find crows and gambling scorpions when I’m cleaning. :-D
Cat hair. I find bales of cat hair, in the damndest places.
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If so, the prompt must have been something like, “Arthur the mouse as a saint in the style of Heironomous Bosch.”
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“…on bad shrooms…”
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Part of the power the other side wields is the fact that most people are still unable to conceive of how much the institutions have been weaponized against them.
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I generally like Lucy as a character, this meme makes me want to see her hanged for treason.
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The European badger is obviously a socialist.
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yep.
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Aren’t most Europeans?
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This is true.
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We had a cat who actually did that. He was trying to push his way through the top of the cat carrier while the door was open…
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Doofus gets in between the house door and the screen door. I open the screen door, he cries to get inside. I open the house door, he cries to get outside. Open both he turns in a circle and lays down. On the step of the door frame.
The front door is a double type. There, he gets in between the left half while the right is completely open, and cries. Two inches separate him from complete freedom.
Two inches is a bridge too far for his one tiny brain cell. Can’t tell you how many times he needs to be rescued when he traps himself like that.
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@ Dan Lane > “Two inches is a bridge too far for his one tiny brain cell.”
I’m seeing some kind of political meme in that story…
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Hey now. Havey is smarter than Joe Biden, and I suspect so is Doofus.
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Doofus may be stupid. but he’s not malicious. He just wants scritches, naps, a warm spot to sleep in, and for all dogs to spontaneously lose the ability to bark in a 100 yard square around wherever he’s at. And the world to be full of inside and never any outside (it’s scary out there).
He’s not too bright, but he’s got a good heart regardless. Anybody sad or fragile comes around, they’ve got a fluffy orange limpet mine that won’t let go or stop purring ’till they cheer back up. Doofus believes in you, even if you don’t. I’ve even seen him skip a meal to keep someone company before.
Biden’s a liar, a cheat, and utterly stupid. He lies and then he doubles down when caught at it. He solicits bribes and brags about it. He’s corrupt to the core. He might be a pedo (there’s credible evidence of it, and it ain’t hard to see).
He’s also so old he needs a rocking chair and a blanket, not the Oval Office. He needs minders. It’s cruel what they are doing to that doddering old lying, corrupt, perpetual bureaucrat.
Doofus gets old, he’ll still have his scritches, his naps, and his warm spot to sleep in. Nobody expects the orange floofball to lead the free world, but he’s at least reliable enough to keep mice out of the kitchen and as a cat, he’s inherently uncorruptable. Politics would be too much work.
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Doofus and Havey are brothers under the fur.
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Havey for Vice President!
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@ Almuric > “most people are still unable to conceive of how much the institutions have been weaponized against them.”
It’s worse than many of us can even imagine.
https://notthebee.com/article/dont-look-now-but-the-white-house-is-giving-law-enforcement-access-to-sensitive-private-records-of-innocent-american-citizens-
And has been for years.
You could never “sell” the story of the last 2 decades to a movie producer or book editor (back when they had good ones).
No one would believe anyone could suspend their disbelief enough.
Not even with dragons and magic.
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You also couldn’t sell it because the entertainment industry has also been weaponized against normal people.
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And some people wonder why the American people want to Nuke DC.
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Neutron bomb. Like to save the museums. Unfortunately, the national zoo would be wiped out.
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“Biden Voter”
Heck “democrat voter” works too. This type of boat launching is not new, nor is it, the only type of boat launch mishaps we’ve seen. Some people should just never own boats.
FWIW the last comment excludes those of us who keep having boat accidents that cause certain noise makers to fall out and disappear. We at least can launch the boats appropriately. (Because none of us vote democrat. :-) ) We just can’t keep noisy slug throwers from falling out of boats.
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Hey, the whole boat sank. Do you seen any boat in my driveway? The whole shebang, down she went. I was lucky I float, yes, like a duck.
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Ice fishing. Why’d I take my guns ice fishing? Because it was on the way back from the range. Duh. Was a good range day. Last good range day I had. Insurance wouldn’t cover replacements.
Whole danged shack went under when the ice broke. I got out. Never went ice fishing again, that’s for dang sure.
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Ice fishing isn’t really a thing in this neck of the woods. Not even on the lakes in the mountains. Not thick enough ice, where there is ice, on accessible lakes.
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And then once you catch your limit of ice, just HOW do you cook it?
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My wife likes to cube it and fry it up. Nothing quite like homemade fried ice.
Fries up quick, keeps in the refrigerator for up to a week. Serve in a bowl or glass. Just don’t put it in the freezer, it’s never quite the same again.
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Because you’re made of – wood?
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It’s the lead weights in those things. ;-)
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Aside:
And in Stoopid j-skool tricks news, a feel-good story just crossed the vast network of tubes of the internet (at https://finance.yahoo.com/news/energized-shoppers-break-one-day-190741866.html ), with emphasis added:
Yes, in-store sales “jumped” a little more than 1% unadjusted for inflation in a year where the official inflation rate is still over 3%.
“Jumped.”
Proving once again that there’s no math requirement in j-skool.
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That’s the new math talking. Common core, something like that? Old math doesn’t care about such shenanigans. That “jumped” is incorrect, unless they meant to type “jumped down” and dropped a word.
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To keep in the spirit of today:
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“Narnia Business” was good enough to be WORTH posting twice.
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There’s a lot of them, and I’m not doing great today.
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When you think about all the lives you have touched with your stories and posts, most for the better. Some people there is no helping, happens. One or two days off is just karma.
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I was saying it was a good thing, it’s the best meme. I even sent it to my sister.
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140% inflation and the Argentinian government was concerned with making sure they met their trans quotas. Gee, I wonder why the voters elected the radical libertarian?
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So, I’m seeing some leftie sources claiming that Milei supports selling minors or the unregulated sale of human organs. Because my trust of anything these people claim is hovering somewhere below zero, does anyone have any concrete evidence one way or another?
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LOL. They say that about EVERY Libertarian.
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I mean, they’re already calling a guy who wants to dismantle the government bureaucracy an “authoritarian”. Because the power of a massive government is all that stands between you and the power of massive governments.
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Hm. Libertarian. OK. Then “media hates him.”
I think the appropriate meme here is a variation on this one:
Aside: Anyone have an order link for the Milei with Chainsaw action figure?
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If you have an order link, I want the address!
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Evil thought for the day:
What if we made slavery the punishment for illegal immigration?
Round them up like wild horses, and auction them off?
Of course, that way also leads to using the excess unsold inventory like old horses, for pet food.
But then that’s no different than what the communists want to do with us anyway.
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One of the horror stories out of Israel is that a third wave of “ordinary” Palestinians went into Israel after Hamas and kidnapped Israelis, so they could have their own, “pet Israelis.” I.E., slaves.
Today is my Twitter fast, unless the fecal matter impacts the oscillator, so maybe I can get my blood pressure down to normal levels.
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The Reader believes slavery is an unmitigated evil and can’t be justified here. However, a fixed term of indentured servitude works.
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The problem with slavery is obvious.
But indenture raises another question: what then?
Any form of legal status will mean it isn’t a deterrent, but an incentive, and assimilation is not guaranteed.
Send them back? Yes, but what about repeat offenders?
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get a liberal to self deport so they can stay.
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Imprisonment works
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Yeah, do they support forcing women into careers they don’t want or jobs they’d hate just so the ‘equity’ numbers come out right? Cause I’ll tell you, not a lot of women want to work in steel mills or coal mines.
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Yes. yes they do, actually
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Reminds me of this one girl we had in Adventurer’s Club back in high school. She was spelunking crazy. She was totally nuts about crawling around in dark, dirty, places deep underground. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed caving with a group of folks; but I was always soberly aware of the vast amount of earth and rock above my head.
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I don’t see any way this could be squished down into a meme, but here goes:
Burning natural gas produces heat.
Burning gas in a gas stove produces heat right where you need it, with very little loss or waste.
An electric stove requires electricity, most of which is produced by burning natural gas in electric generating plants 20 miles or more away from where you need it.
The electric generating plant has to convert that heat into electricity. They boil water and use the steam to turn turbines and generators, BUT — they can only convert about 1/3 of the energy into electricity. The rest is lost as waste heat which has to be dissipated into the air, or into a cooling pond, river, lake or ocean.
The electricity passes through transformers, substations, many miles of high-voltage transmission cables, more substations and transformers, losing another 5% – 10% along the way, until finally it gets to your house. There, it is connected to a thick wire called a heating element and converted to heat in your electric stove.
If you just burned gas in your stove in the first place, you’d get the same amount of heat from about 1/4 as much gas.
But they’re trying to ban gas stoves because they’re not ‘Green!!’.
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It’s a war on things that work, is all.
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That’s coming up in a story I’m writing:
“Yeah, they’re all in favor of fusion energy — so long as it remains an unattainable pie-in-the-sky technology. But let somebody threaten to deliver practical, large-scale fusion power next month, all of a sudden they’re agin it.”
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It’s a war on the middle class. How DARE we be prosperous and happy? How DARE we think we might be their equals? We need to be put in our place!
Another reason for the Twitter fast, so I don’t start chewing the furniture.
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And gas stoves to electric are the most straightforward.
Worse is how they want to replace the proven technology nat gas hot water heaters with frelling heat pump hot water heaters. Which are way more expensive, and more complicated, and not proven in use for decades.
And you’ll likely need a new high-amp circuit to wherever your water heater lives.
And likely a panel upgrade.
And possibly a service upgrade, for which the current utility wait is nine months and climbing.
And the grid, at least out here in Gavin’s Glorious Bear Flag People’s Republic, is already stretched to the limit in what it can supply, with capacity-driven rolling blackouts threatened every summer thanks to people actually using their air conditioners when it’s hot, in addition to the oh-noes-it’s-windy public safety blackouts due to the utility doing diversity for the past decades instead of system upgrades and maintaining lines.
But Mother Gaia is a demanding goddess, and the little people must sacrifice to feed her insatiable hunger.
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You’d have to put in a 30 or 40 Amp 220V circuit for the electric stove. Most folks can’t do that themselves, and an electrician will cost $hundreds.
Heat pumps don’t work so good when the weather’s cold. They don’t work at all if it’s cold enough.
The reason for shutdowns on windy days can be traced directly to lawsuits. The utilities have been sued for $billions if the wind caused wires to spark and a fire started. It’s called weather, people. But you can’t sue the wind.
It’s like the Loma Prieta earthquake. Some of the best earthquake-resistant constructions failed so the lawyers sued everybody and their dog. Anything will break if shaken hard enough, but you can’t sue the Earth either.
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Lawsuits, yes, but there were windy days and fallen lines which did not cause entire towns to burn to the ground back in the 1960s and 1970s, and no, it’s not “climate change”, it’s “We stopped clearing the brush out down to the dirt from under the lines like OG PG&E used to do in the old days.”
Which led to the fires, which led to the lawsuits.
And it’s not even all the utilities fault – they were told by the PUC (CA Public Utilities Commission) to spend some of their guaranteed profit as a regulated monopoly on other, more political things, rather than on upgrading their 40 or 50 or 60 or 70 year old lines and transformers, or better yet what they are doing now, undergrounding the lines so they can’t blow down; or on installing new technology to detect and immediately cut power to individual stretches of line the instant there’s the start of a short-to-ground; or even just on keeping their rural right-of-ways cleared of brush.
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You can blame some of the untouched underbrush on Hollywierd. A couple of activist-actor-types got all het up over goats clearing out “pretty meadows” that happened to be grazing controlled brush around rights-of-way, and the eco-nuts latched on with “But my endangered whatevers!”
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We put in a heat pump at the old house because we needed a new A/C unit, so we got the one that was a heater as well. It worked well, until it got down to about 10F. And would shut down at 5F, refusing to turn back on until it got about 20F. Which means for at least half the winter it was useless.
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Locally if you have A/C then you have the outside “heat” pump component. Worse, the required standard is to drain condensation from any gas furnace into the condensation drain for the A/C pump component. Guess what freezes during long hard freezes? Then it backs up into the floater tray which causes the furnace to shutdown. We don’t have A/C so our drain just goes down the outside of the house (furnace is in the attic). Had trouble the first two winters. Installers came back first winter, insulated the drain hose (should have been adequate, next winter, hard freeze essentially said “Oh? Yea? NaNaNaNa”). Came back and really insulated the drain hose. Subsequent winters (there have been worse freezes, 2017 comes to mind) haven’t defeated it yet. Mom’s furnace is in a utility closet in the house. She has a switch that allows her to pull a drain hose across the hall and drain into the hall bathtub. She only does this if she is going to be gone for days, or if the normal drain freezes. Otherwise, while Willamette Valley can get down < 20F, it usually doesn’t stay there all day. Can. Just not like other places. Still irritating. Causes people to do stupid stuff too (causing fires, and suffocating gases).
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There should be a secondary condensate drain in case the primary drain is blocked, and it should empty into a laundry sink or some other fixture inside the house so it can’t ever freeze.
There should also be a warning printed on it: “If this pipe is dripping, the primary condensate drain needs to be cleared.”
Then again, why do we just flush all that perfectly good distilled water down the drain? At least use it to water plants!
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I think that is what mom has. Haven’t looked at it closely. There is a switch, or maybe part of the overflow. Problem is the nearest non-outside drain is the bathtub across the hall from the utility closet. Original ’63 furnace didn’t have this problem.
Our house the furnace is a *retrofit and is in the attic. There is no good place to drain other than across the attic and down the outside. Now we could put it in the garage, but 18 years ago the furnace still had to also air vent straight up (also why we couldn’t have a gas water heater). No way to retro fit a straight up air venting. Now can go sideways.
((*)) House came with ceiling heat. Do not get me started on the inefficiency of that, or the cost. Although honestly don’t know the full cost because we had the thermostats turned all the way down (short of turning off the breaker, that didn’t prevent them from heating some), and used wood heat. When we switched the electric savings was still only about an 24 month pay off on the new furnace and that included that we were paying for natural gas now.
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Note the weather conditions in which heat pumps in heating mode work provenly well pretty much describes California weather in the coastal or coastal-adjacent zones.
The “oh, look, CA passed this so we should too” reaction in other, less moderate climate states does not take this into account.
And the coastal elite over here on the left coast do not even consider that weather elsewhere, even as they jet to Aspen for skiing, when they make lofty “Those flyovers should just stop burning natural gas, Buffy” pronouncements from their well heated manses.
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Ground-source heat pumps — often called “geothermal” by the under-educated — are wonderful things. When installed (and sized) correctly. They’re honestly more efficient than natural gas heat… and also more efficient than traditional air conditioners. Even when you include the assorted losses in electricity generation and transmission. That is, when measured on a full life-cycle basis.That said, they entail a quite substantial capital cost up front. Depending on your specific climate, financial situation, size of yard/property and/or ability to have a well drilled, assumptions about future financial performance, and other factors, they may or may not be “better overall” than natural gas.
No one true way, and all that. OK: few one true ways, and this ain’t one of them!
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Why would you ever need it to be more than 40 degrees in your house? That’s just selfish!
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I wouldn’t ever want my house to be 40°!
Unless you mean Fahrenheit. :-D
I wouldn’t want my house to be 40 Kelvin, either.
I like to keep my house between 65°F and 75°F, but my bedroom has to be under 70°F at night or trying to sleep is miserable. For that, I use a window-type air conditioner that’s installed through the house wall because the bedroom window is not well positioned for an air conditioner. Probably uses 4-6 KWH per night, after my solar panels produced 10-15 KWH during the day.
By the way, I hate the phrase ‘hot water heater’! It’s just plain ‘water heater’! Hot water is already hot, so you don’t heat it; you heat cold water to make it hot!
Yeah, okay, it’s a peeve, but ’tis mine own.
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And it won’t work very well. Today I read an article on how great it is in Norway and of course it is in Norway and vulcanism. GAH.
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Slight of hand to keep an eye on– I grew up around heatpumps, but they were using the hotsprings in that area.
The switch between THAT geothermal heating, and the newly nifty kind, is the kind of thing that activists like to forget.
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But it’s so easy, being an ‘Activist!’ You don’t have to know anything, or even put any thought into it; just pick a topic you feel strongly about and make a lot of noise.
Oh, and cast shame on anybody who refutes your noise with actual, you know, facts, logic and analysis. They’re just Eeevul Capitalists! Off with their heads!
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“‘Ow d’yer know she’s a witch?”
[Crowd grumbles]
“She turned me into a newt!”
“A newt?”
“Wl- wb- er- It got better!”
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Electric hot water heaters are about the most inefficient things in a house. A big tank of water you’re constantly trying to keep hot for the infrequent times you actually use it. The entire Biden Administration is just as demented as the creepy old guy occupying the Offal Office.
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I had a natural gas tankless on-demand hot water heater that worked well, though it was slightly undersized, so when asked to heat full flow rate to hot it didn’t get really hot. But at lower rates it would make plenty-hot water forever, and the difference in the gas bill was noticeable even way back then.
A correctly sized tankless would be perfect, but we ended up replacing it with a standard nat gas tank water heater when the local hard water got to it, partially for cost and partially just because of the hassle of finding where to get a correct one vs. just buying the tank one at Home Depot.
Of course, these super-efficient tankless on-demand hot water heaters will be outlawed here along with everything else that uses nat gas because Gaia hates hot water.
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I would so love to force these eco-freaks to actually LIVE as the great unwashed.
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Which is why “she” invented hotsprings, no doubt.
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It’s about control, not energy efficiency or the climate.
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They’re not memes, but close:
My favorite:
IN CASE OF FIRE
EXIT BUILDING BEFORE POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA
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The morning the house whete I was residing burned, my first call was to my Pastor.
Me: “Pastor, my house is on fire!”
Pastor: “Well, get out of the house!”
He knows me so well . . .
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What this thread needs is some Christmas cheer, something like “Hark! The Herald Kitty Sings.”
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(Black cat courtesy of Bookworm Room’s weekly memes, since the URL only shows if you copy it.)
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Also from Bookworm – a shout-out to Kipling. Sort of.
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Woof. That fits.
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Bookworm suggests a book.
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